[04:46] <Piazy> hi
[08:34] <tdr112> morning
[08:35] <slashbel> good morning
[08:56] <czajkowski> ello
[08:56] <czajkowski> slashbel: hows ye
[08:57] <slashbel> grand, how's you? back in the englands now?
[09:00] <czajkowski> yup
[09:01] <czajkowski> back since sunday
[09:01] <czajkowski> and recovering since
[09:01] <czajkowski> pics look lovely of ye
[09:03] <slashbel> thanks
[10:50] <JEFFfrazerWITHth> anyone awake?
[10:50] <JEFFfrazerWITHth> im having a problem with the Canonical partners repository
[10:51] <JEFFfrazerWITHth> the IP for it is listed as in ireland so i though id ask here if anyone else has had the same problem
[10:52] <JEFFfrazerWITHth> just trying to install flash on my liveUSB copy of Backbox2
[10:52] <JEFFfrazerWITHth> (dont ask)
[10:52] <JEFFfrazerWITHth> Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/pool/partner/a/adobe-flashplugin/adobe-flash-properties-gtk_11.1.102.55-0natty1_i386.deb 404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.191 80]
[10:53] <JEFFfrazerWITHth> Been like that since yesterday, so im guessing its not so much a common problem, as maybe the OS is out of date, and has a bad link to the repository... should i, how do i point it to the right server?
[10:54] <JEFFfrazerWITHth> appreciate any help if anyone comes back to the keyboard
[11:10] <ebel> JEFFfrazerWITHth: how are you trying to install it?
[11:10] <ebel> Have you done an "aptitude update"?
[11:11] <JEFFfrazerWITHth> aptitude? as in upt-get update?
[11:11] <JEFFfrazerWITHth> *apt
[11:11] <JEFFfrazerWITHth> yes, i tried that but it relies on the same server ultimately
[11:12] <ebel> Those packages/files might have been removed (if there's a newer version), and your system might think that those files are still there
[11:12] <ebel> yes "apt-get update" aswell
[11:12] <ebel> that will download the new and up to date file list
[11:13] <JEFFfrazerWITHth> is there a way to reconfigure the server it asks for? i have tried it with an IP in the UK (neighbouring the irish canonical server) but i have also tried it with a south american IP and it still went for the same server, so its not auto...
[11:13] <JEFFfrazerWITHth> running sudo apt-get update now...
[11:14] <JEFFfrazerWITHth> ok, that completed successufly
[11:14] <ebel> what makes you think that's an irish server?
[11:14] <JEFFfrazerWITHth> i who-is'd the IP its in ireland
[11:14] <JEFFfrazerWITHth> oh, damn
[11:15] <JEFFfrazerWITHth> sorry no its in isle of man
[11:15] <JEFFfrazerWITHth> completely slipped my mind as i did it yesterday\
[11:15] <ebel> No, that's just the company's address
[11:15] <ebel> not where the server is
[11:15] <ebel> from a traceroute my guess is that that server is physically in london
[11:15] <ebel> that's a canonical block
[11:16] <JEFFfrazerWITHth> ok maybe i should try just to check if i get the same result
[11:16] <JEFFfrazerWITHth> but then again i probably will as im getting the same IP wherever i try from
[11:16] <JEFFfrazerWITHth> (using vidalia and firefox)
[11:17] <ebel> in general, ubuntu/debian apt repositories are mirrored to provide load balancing, however it's unlikely that the canonical partner one is
[11:17] <JEFFfrazerWITHth> so, would you consider trying to install something random from the canonical list and see if you share the same problem? maybe list the IP it connects to to download../
[11:18] <JEFFfrazerWITHth> > provide load balancing  ... yeah i thought it would
[11:18] <ebel> it's (legally) very easy to run an mirror of FLOSS software, since there is no copyright concerns
[11:18] <ebel> not so with non-FLOSS stuff in there
[11:19] <ebel> did you get the same result after the "apt-get update" ?
[11:19] <JEFFfrazerWITHth> i will try
[11:20] <JEFFfrazerWITHth> wow, i think it worked but i will just have to check with youtube or something brb
[11:21] <ebel> ☺
[11:21] <ebel> I've seen that problem happen before.
[11:21] <JEFFfrazerWITHth> i know you must hear this a million times, but thanks it worked
[11:22] <JEFFfrazerWITHth> i have no idea why it failed to help yesterday, maybe i did things in the wrong order... meh
[11:22] <ebel> Basically your computer thought there was a file/package available for download that wasn't there
[11:22] <JEFFfrazerWITHth> thanks a lot buddy
[11:22] <ebel> so if you do the update it'll update the list of available software, and the URLs and the filenames, versions etc.
[11:22] <ebel> they don't usually keep all the old versions of software available for download on all the servers
[11:23] <ebel> Happy to help
[11:23] <JEFFfrazerWITHth> so with this OS i just have to apt-get update and then i can use the package manager, brilliant. you've really helped out a noob, i will learn linux properly one day, but in the meantime there are nice folk like you muddling us noobs through
[11:23] <ebel> If you use the Ubuntu Software Centre it should do that automatically
[11:24] <JEFFfrazerWITHth> it didn't though
[11:24] <JEFFfrazerWITHth> never done it with any other OS and i've tried about a dozen different flavours about 4 of them ubuntu based
[11:25] <JEFFfrazerWITHth> i tried submitting a bug report to the backbox team but i had to register to do so, i didn't, i might go back and register and contribute
[11:26] <JEFFfrazerWITHth> anyway. have a nice day ebel thanks again
[11:26] <JEFFfrazerWITHth> o/