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| zul | so lets get this started | 16:00 |
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| zul | #startmeeting | 16:00 |
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| zul | so hi, i hope everyone has recovered from uds with their livers mostly intact | 16:00 |
| utlemming | meh | 16:01 |
| Daviey | o/ | 16:01 |
| zul | utlemming: i know you havent | 16:01 |
| arosales | hello | 16:01 |
| zul | #stubtopic Review ACTION points from previous meeting | 16:01 |
| zul | #subtopic Review ACTION points from previous meeting | 16:01 |
| jamespage | o/ | 16:02 |
| zul | so there isnt an topics from the previous meeting lets get right to it | 16:02 |
| m_3 | o/ | 16:02 |
| zul | #topic Quantal Development | 16:02 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Quantal Development | ||
| zul | so last week was uds, and people should be getting their blueprints ready | 16:02 |
| zul | this includes their work items for the blueprints as well | 16:03 |
| jamespage | +1 | 16:03 |
| arosales | also note that we'll be trying the new template version | 16:03 |
| jamespage | \o/ | 16:03 |
| zul | if you have never written a blueprint before you can ask for help as well | 16:03 |
| jamespage | do we have the bzr/whiteboard integration working yet - maybe smoser or Ursinha` might know? | 16:04 |
| s3h | sigh | 16:04 |
| roaksoax | o/ | 16:04 |
| SpamapS | o/ | 16:04 |
| smoser | jamespage, Ursinha` and i talked a lot, but did not come to any real conclusion. | 16:04 |
| jamespage | OK - suggest folk try out the template without a versioned whiteboard for the time being - we can swap over later. | 16:05 |
| Daviey | sounds good | 16:05 |
| s3h | where do we find the new template again? | 16:05 |
| zul | jamespage: can you send an email to ubuntu-server with the new template stuff? | 16:05 |
| roaksoax | +1 | 16:05 |
| jamespage | zul: ack - please action me for that | 16:05 |
| zul | #action jamespage to send out an email to ubuntu-server about the new template | 16:06 |
| meetingology | ACTION: jamespage to send out an email to ubuntu-server about the new template | 16:06 |
| arosales | also it looks like we may need to update http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/release-bugs.html for Quantal | 16:06 |
| Daviey | ^^ action me | 16:06 |
| arosales | or is that just the header text that needs updated from Precise? | 16:06 |
| Daviey | nah, needs a change. | 16:06 |
| zul | #action daviey update release bugs for quantal | 16:07 |
| meetingology | ACTION: daviey update release bugs for quantal | 16:07 |
| zul | so looking at http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/release-bugs.html | 16:07 |
| zul | there is possibly a good one or two SRU bugs that are good candidates for SRU of course they need to be fixed in quantal first | 16:08 |
| Daviey | zul: How functional is the SRU tracker? | 16:08 |
| zul | the one that jumps out at me is #880339 | 16:08 |
| Daviey | bug 880339 | 16:08 |
| zul | Daviey: havent touched it in a long time | 16:08 |
| zul | it should be ressurected though | 16:09 |
| jamespage | +1 | 16:09 |
| zul | does someone want to take that action? | 16:10 |
| zul | if i show them again where everything is and clear out the database and possibly update it for precise | 16:10 |
| arosales | zul: I can give that a try | 16:11 |
| jamespage | zul: give it to me - kinda forms part of my holistic review of triage etc.. anyway | 16:11 |
| zul | oooh...deathmatch | 16:11 |
| zul | i though Ursinha` did something with it | 16:11 |
| roaksoax | jamespage: and now that you mention it, where should we be trackingnew bugs from now on? | 16:11 |
| arosales | zul ping jamespage and I offline | 16:11 |
| arosales | I would be interested in knowing how it works even if jamespage takes the full action | 16:12 |
| jamespage | http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/triage-report.html | 16:12 |
| zul | #action zul talk to arosales and jamespage offline about SRU tracker | 16:12 |
| meetingology | ACTION: zul talk to arosales and jamespage offline about SRU tracker | 16:12 |
| jamespage | for the time being at least | 16:12 |
| zul | anything else to bring up? | 16:12 |
| roaksoax | jamespage: thanks | 16:12 |
| zul | jamespage/arosales/Daviey: is there anything im missing | 16:13 |
| arosales | for Quantal I think that is it for now | 16:13 |
| zul | cool beans | 16:13 |
| jamespage | I don't think so - blueprints and then merges! | 16:13 |
| Daviey | zul: how long do we have? :) | 16:13 |
| zul | Daviey: none | 16:14 |
| zul | #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events | 16:14 |
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| zul | hah hah! | 16:14 |
| Daviey | no more travel please! :) | 16:14 |
| zul | so summer is coming up, so that means stuff like oscon, velocity, linuxcon, etc, etc etc | 16:14 |
| arosales | gluecon coming up for m_3 | 16:14 |
| arosales | 23-24 may | 16:14 |
| s3h | i might go to linuxcon, but waiting to hear on that | 16:14 |
| s3h | (plumber's, really) | 16:15 |
| Daviey | s3h: oh, neat! | 16:15 |
| * zul hopes to stay home this summer | 16:15 | |
| zul | oh yeah OLS as well | 16:15 |
| SpamapS | Daviey: actually we're going to have a sprint, just you and me, here in LA, for the next 3 weeks. | 16:15 |
| s3h | (waitingn to hear from Daviey that is :) | 16:15 |
| Daviey | SpamapS: sounds awesome. | 16:15 |
| zul | moving on | 16:16 |
| SpamapS | Velocity is coming up | 16:16 |
| SpamapS | wait | 16:16 |
| SpamapS | I think somebody is going to that | 16:16 |
| SpamapS | (sorry I got majorly lagged out there) | 16:16 |
| zul | im guessing m_3 | 16:16 |
| arosales | velocity is at the end of june | 16:16 |
| SpamapS | Jorge and Hazmat I think | 16:16 |
| arosales | 27-28 June | 16:16 |
| m_3 | no Velocity for me... I'll be out of pocket | 16:16 |
| SpamapS | Oh and LISA talk submission deadline is this week | 16:17 |
| SpamapS | so for all ubuntu server users, make sure you get your "Ubuntu server is awesome" talks submitted! :) | 16:17 |
| SpamapS | that is all | 16:17 |
| * smb hopes to go to Plumbers and maybe XenSummit as it is just before that | 16:17 | |
| SpamapS | Isn't plumbers in San Diego? | 16:17 |
| zul | mmm....more citrix marketing | 16:17 |
| zul | it is | 16:17 |
| * m_3 just hopes Plumbers scheduling is working seamlessly atm :) | 16:17 | |
| m_3 | yes, san diego... late august I think | 16:18 |
| SpamapS | m_3: talk to the IS guys.. they wrote charms for the schedule boxes too | 16:18 |
| smb | 29-31 | 16:18 |
| SpamapS | ok thats enough about events. :) | 16:18 |
| m_3 | SpamapS: that's the one on the summit charm.. don't think we're doing anything beyond that | 16:18 |
| zul | #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh) | 16:19 |
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| zul | hi hggdh | 16:19 |
| zul | if you are around | 16:19 |
| zul | lots of good qa sessions at uds as well | 16:19 |
| SpamapS | Yeah QA were the rockstars of uds-q :) | 16:20 |
| zul | i guess he is not here | 16:20 |
| zul | #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb) | 16:20 |
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| zul | hi smb | 16:20 |
| smb | \o | 16:20 |
| smb | Are there Questions ? | 16:21 |
| zul | i didnt attend any kernel sessions at uds | 16:21 |
| smb | As I don't think I have much to report | 16:21 |
| zul | er...what kernel are we using for quantal? ;) | 16:21 |
| smb | 2.6.24 | 16:21 |
| smb | :-P | 16:21 |
| zul | how retro | 16:21 |
| zul | any questions for smb? | 16:22 |
| smoser | big news from kernel team was that -virtual may be going away. | 16:22 |
| zul | yay! | 16:22 |
| smb | Right, more of a packaging change | 16:22 |
| zul | replacing it with a regular server kernel? | 16:22 |
| smb | no, that does not exist anymore | 16:23 |
| smb | generic or generic-pae | 16:23 |
| zul | regular generic kernel | 16:23 |
| zul | ah i see | 16:23 |
| smb | And having a split between minimal and additional modules | 16:23 |
| zul | cool | 16:23 |
| zul | anything else for smb? | 16:23 |
| rbasak | As an aside, currently we can get an indication of whether a reporter is using a "desktop" machine via the kernel in bug reports. With this going away, perhaps we should add information to see if X or ubuntu-desktop or something is installed? | 16:24 |
| zul | rbasak: well they can still have a server with ubuntu-desktop installed | 16:25 |
| rbasak | That's the thing - there's no real distinction in technical terms, but pragmatically the information is useful when triaging | 16:25 |
| zul | right totally agree and thats been a problem for a long while | 16:26 |
| SpamapS | rbasak: we get the install media | 16:26 |
| smb | Hm, I may be wrong but potentially the linux-server meta package is still there | 16:26 |
| SpamapS | rbasak: thats a good indication of what they intended at install time | 16:26 |
| smb | Yeah, seems to be true | 16:27 |
| zul | SpamapS: install media can be maas now as well though | 16:27 |
| zul | anyways i dont think its going to be solved as well | 16:27 |
| smb | rbasak, ^ | 16:27 |
| zul | er...solved now | 16:27 |
| rbasak | We don't always get the install media, eg bug 999614. | 16:27 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 999614 in php5 (Ubuntu) "new SoapClient() with connection_timeout = NULL breaks multi-dimensional arrays" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/999614 | 16:27 |
| rbasak | That may be a cloud image or something | 16:28 |
| zul | so moving on | 16:28 |
| zul | rbasak: good timing | 16:28 |
| zul | #topic Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak) | 16:28 |
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| rbasak | Calxeda demoed MAAS working on their hardware at UDS! | 16:28 |
| rbasak | Work on ARM server and MAAS is ongoing. | 16:28 |
| rbasak | Any questions for me? | 16:28 |
| zul | i want one | 16:29 |
| rbasak | That's not a question :-) | 16:29 |
| zul | please can i have one? | 16:29 |
| rbasak | No. | 16:29 |
| rbasak | :-P | 16:29 |
| rbasak | I don't think any ETA for general marketing availability has been announced yet. | 16:30 |
| rbasak | *market | 16:30 |
| * zul sighs | 16:30 | |
| zul | #topic Open Discussion | 16:30 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Open Discussion | ||
| zul | anyone want to get something off their chest | 16:30 |
| zul | how was uds for everyone? | 16:31 |
| SpamapS | weird going back and forth for just 2 days | 16:31 |
| arosales | SpamapS: did you collect some good feedback for remote participants? | 16:32 |
| arosales | or was that handled pretty well? | 16:32 |
| SpamapS | I think we should consider google hangouts | 16:32 |
| s3h | we tried one for one talk. didn't work well | 16:32 |
| SpamapS | I see no reason to put people in a one-way audio bubble | 16:32 |
| jamespage | I was in a couple of meetings where that worked OK | 16:33 |
| SpamapS | s3h: what went wrong? | 16:33 |
| smoser | google hangout swould be a useful addition. especially if integrated with the room. | 16:33 |
| zul | need more bandwith i think | 16:33 |
| s3h | choppy, delay | 16:33 |
| SpamapS | Ah | 16:33 |
| rbasak | I've found G+ to be choppy and delayed as well. | 16:33 |
| SpamapS | Thats surprising | 16:33 |
| rbasak | How about a SIP hardware phone on speakerphone? | 16:33 |
| s3h | that would be aweseome | 16:33 |
| s3h | how about just mumble :) | 16:33 |
| jamespage | SIP hardware phone was avaliable on request | 16:34 |
| s3h | did anyone try it? | 16:34 |
| rbasak | The catch about two-way audio is that it relies on everyone being able to control their mute button | 16:34 |
| SpamapS | well anyway, I find it very hard to "participate" from IRC+delayed audio | 16:34 |
| jamespage | The DMB meeting used one - it worked OK | 16:34 |
| s3h | SpamapS: +1, same here | 16:34 |
| SpamapS | But it did "work" and I felt that I was able to chime in a bit. | 16:34 |
| s3h | the delay makes it unusable if you're goign to be really involved | 16:34 |
| SpamapS | rbasak: thats the catch IRL too ;) | 16:34 |
| s3h | fine for just following along half-heartedly | 16:34 |
| rbasak | The good thing about G+ is that someone managing things can identify who is causing an audio issue and remote mute him. | 16:35 |
| s3h | good conf lines can do that too :) | 16:35 |
| rbasak | The catch is that this needs someone to manage things. | 16:35 |
| zul | asterisk | 16:35 |
| s3h | i seriously didn't know about the sip lines. we should try those for next time | 16:35 |
| s3h | or yeah, asterisk to Daviey's server | 16:35 |
| SpamapS | anyway, remote participation is probably worth improving, but all in all, it worked fine and etherpad especially made it easy to keep track of session notes in multiple rooms | 16:35 |
| s3h | +1 for etherpad | 16:35 |
| jamespage | just remember to save your notes.... | 16:36 |
| s3h | oh yeah - by when? | 16:36 |
| * jamespage shrugs | 16:36 | |
| s3h | "before that storm rolling in" | 16:36 |
| jamespage | not sure but the sooner the better | 16:36 |
| s3h | i would, but this meeting wont' end :) | 16:36 |
| jamespage | lol | 16:37 |
| zul | i think there was an email about uds feedback that you can do :) | 16:37 |
| zul | so anything else so i can end the meeting for s3h? | 16:37 |
| zul | if not | 16:37 |
| zul | same time next week | 16:37 |
| zul | #endmeeting | 16:37 |
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| meetingology | Meeting ended Tue May 15 16:37:44 2012 UTC. | 16:37 |
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| s3h | thanks :) | 16:37 |
| arosales | zul thanks for chairing | 16:37 |
| roaksoax | \o/ | 16:38 |
| zul | arosales: no probs this is the longest possible time i have before i chair again ;) | 16:38 |
| roaksoax | lol | 16:38 |
| jsalisbury | #startmeeting | 17:00 |
| jsalisbury | ## | 17:00 |
| jsalisbury | ## This is the Ubuntu Kernel Team weekly status meeting. | 17:00 |
| jsalisbury | ## | 17:00 |
| jsalisbury | [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Meeting | 17:00 |
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| jsalisbury | [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Precise | 17:00 |
| jsalisbury | # Meeting Etiquette | 17:00 |
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| jsalisbury | Roll Call for Ubuntu Kernel Weekly Status Meeting | 17:00 |
| ppisati | o/ | 17:00 |
| ogasawara | o/ | 17:00 |
| henrix | o/ | 17:00 |
| bjf | o/ | 17:01 |
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| herton | o/ | 17:01 |
| jsalisbury | [TOPIC] ARM Status (ppisati) | 17:01 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: ARM Status (ppisati) | ||
| ppisati | work on a Q/omap4 kernel is ongoing, but apart from that, nothing to report this week | 17:01 |
| ppisati | .. | 17:01 |
| sconklin | o/ Late | 17:01 |
| jsalisbury | [TOPIC] Release Metrics and Incoming Bugs (jsalisbury) | 17:01 |
| jsalisbury | Release metrics and incoming bug data can be reviewed at the following link: | 17:01 |
| jsalisbury | [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kt-meeting.txt | 17:01 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Release Metrics and Incoming Bugs (jsalisbury) | ||
| jsalisbury | .. | 17:01 |
| jsalisbury | [TOPIC] Status: Quantal Development Kernel (ogasawara) | 17:02 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Status: Quantal Development Kernel (ogasawara) | ||
| ogasawara | a few things... | 17:02 |
| ogasawara | [LINK] http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-quantal/canonical-kernel-distro-team | 17:02 |
| ogasawara | Work items are beginning to populate the blueprints. I'll start calling | 17:02 |
| ogasawara | out specific work items in upcoming meetings. | 17:02 |
| ogasawara | We've rebased the Quantal kernel to upstream v3.4-rc7. We uploaded but | 17:02 |
| ogasawara | ran into a build failure on i386. Test builds are currently underway | 17:02 |
| ogasawara | and we will re-upload shortly. We also have the quantal kernel building | 17:02 |
| ogasawara | in precise. We are getting a PPA set up so that testing can commence. | 17:02 |
| ogasawara | Important upcoming dates: | 17:02 |
| ogasawara | * Thurs Jun 7 - Alpha 1 (~3 weeks) | 17:02 |
| ogasawara | .. | 17:02 |
| jsalisbury | [TOPIC] Status: CVE's (apw) | 17:03 |
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| apw | Currently we have 82 CVEs on our radar, with 5 new CVEs in the last | 17:03 |
| apw | three weeks. See the CVE matrix for the current list: | 17:03 |
| apw | 17:03 | |
| apw | [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/ALL-linux.html | 17:03 |
| apw | 17:03 | |
| apw | Overall the backlog has increased slightly slightly this week: | 17:03 |
| apw | 17:03 | |
| apw | [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/status/cve-metrics.txt | 17:03 |
| apw | [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/CVE-linux.txt | 17:03 |
| apw | 17:03 | |
| apw | This week sees Quantal listed for the first time, and the addition | 17:03 |
| apw | of the armadaxp kernels for ease of tracking. | 17:03 |
| apw | 17:03 | |
| apw | .. | 17:03 |
| jsalisbury | [TOPIC] Status: Stable, Security, and Bugfix Kernel Updates - Precise/Oneiric/Natty/Lucid/Hardy (bjf/herton/henrix) | 17:03 |
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| bjf | Here is the status for the main kernels, until today (May 15): | 17:03 |
| bjf | 17:03 | |
| bjf | * Hardy - 2.6.24-31.101 - Testing; Single CVE | 17:03 |
| bjf | * Lucid - 2.6.32-41.89 - Testing; 5 CVEs | 17:03 |
| bjf | * Natty - 2.6.38-15.59 - Nothing this cycle | 17:03 |
| bjf | * Oneiric - 3.0.0-20.34 - Testing; 4 stable upstream releases (approx. 300 commits) | 17:04 |
| bjf | * Precise - 3.2.0-24.38 - Testing; 2 stable upstream releases (approx. 140 commits) | 17:04 |
| bjf | 17:04 | |
| bjf | Current opened tracking bugs details: | 17:04 |
| bjf | * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kernel-sru-workflow.html | 17:04 |
| bjf | 17:04 | |
| bjf | For SRUs, SRU report is a good source of information: | 17:04 |
| bjf | * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/sru-report.html | 17:04 |
| bjf | 17:04 | |
| bjf | Future stable cadence cycles: | 17:04 |
| bjf | * https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseInterlock | 17:04 |
| bjf | 17:04 | |
| bjf | .. | 17:04 |
| jsalisbury | [TOPIC] Open Discussion or Questions? Raise your hand to be recognized (o/) | 17:04 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Open Discussion or Questions? Raise your hand to be recognized (o/) | ||
| jsalisbury | Thanks everyone | 17:04 |
| jsalisbury | #endmeeting | 17:05 |
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| apw | jussi, blink and you miss it | 17:13 |
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