[01:37] <philipballew> If I need to upgrade from lucid to precise but my dnysns package i use to stay connected "noip2" was taken out of the ubuntu repos, will I loose connection to my server?
[01:38] <DonkeyHotei> use a different one
[01:39] <DonkeyHotei> quite a few support noip
[01:39]  * philipballew looks for another free one.
[01:39] <philipballew> apt-cache search should do the trick
[01:42] <philipballew> then again. sooner or later att is going to get mad that i have an email server running there
[01:43] <DonkeyHotei> in sd?
[01:44] <philipballew> its currently stashed in Auburn. Me and a friend have a cluster together
[01:44] <philipballew> att up here are really annoying
[01:44] <DonkeyHotei> get cal.net instead
[01:45] <philipballew> never herd of it
[01:45] <philipballew> might be better
[01:46] <DonkeyHotei> they're a woodland-based reseller of sonic.net's fusion service, iirc
[01:46] <philipballew> hum. seems good.
[01:46] <DonkeyHotei> also look into "sacramento fusion"
[01:48]  * philipballew looks inti these
[01:50] <akk> We're trying out a colo from prgmr.com -- seems pretty good so far.
[01:50] <akk> er, not a colo, a virtual host
[01:51] <DonkeyHotei> prgmr has both
[01:51] <DonkeyHotei> i think
[01:52] <akk> I think that's right -- the colos are here in silicon valley, I think, the vhosts are in Merced or Tracy or somewhere like that.
[01:52] <DonkeyHotei> wow, he's REALLY branched out
[02:36] <scientes> I have been trying to generate a WoT of the debian-maintainers.gpg
[02:36] <scientes> its kinda resousive
[02:54] <akk> Any ppa packaging experts around? I've made a deb/dsc package but I'm having trouble finding docs on how to publish it to a PPA.
[02:57] <akk> Launchpad says to use dput <ppa-name> <source.changes> but it doesn't explain what <source.changes> should be.
[02:59] <scientes> akk, you could try open build service
[02:59] <akk> What's that?
[02:59] <scientes> something similar to PPAs
[03:00]  * scientes has never used it
[03:00] <akk> Why would I want to use that rather than a PPA?
[03:00] <philipballew> ppa's are more distributable
[03:00] <scientes> blewwwwwww
[03:00] <scientes> ppa's are only against ubuntu
[03:01] <philipballew> everyone from akk to your linux noob can install a ppa
[03:01] <scientes> OBS is against rhel, fedora, suse, debian, and ubuntu
[03:01] <akk> This is just a python script, and I'm trying to figure out how to make it easy for people to install it.
[03:01] <akk> It's not like it actually needs to be built.
[03:01] <scientes> oh, then just tarball it up
[03:01] <philipballew> akk, did you already push it via bzr?
[03:01] <akk> It's not in bzr, it's on github.
[03:03] <akk> Does something have to have a bzr mirror of the real repository to be packaged as a PPA?
[03:03] <philipballew> ah
[03:03] <akk> This particular package might actually have a bzr mirror, but I have several other scripts that definitely don't.
[03:04] <akk> I'm finding it hard to coordinate google code and github mirrors already, so I hate to add a third if I don't absolutely have to.
[03:04] <philipballew> I Ive herd this link has helped a few http://askubuntu.com/questions/28562/how-do-i-create-a-ppa-for-a-working-program
[03:06] <akk> "Use dput to upload these files to Launchpad" -- I wonder what "these files" means?
[03:07] <philipballew> sometimes people dont realize they need to be as clear as possible when answering questions
[03:07] <philipballew> Launchpad has a irc channel I think
[03:08] <philipballew> iirc they do
[03:08] <akk> If it matters, I used python-stdeb to create the package, not debuild directly.
[03:08] <akk> I got fired up at UDS because it sounded like they were trying to make the packaging/uploading process easier for developers
[03:09] <akk> but I'm not really finding the docs any easier to follow than they were a year or two ago.
[03:10] <philipballew> maybe their making them easier here in the Q cycle
[03:11] <akk> They did say in the Q cycle there's supposed to be an app (pkgme, maybe?) that does it all with one command.
[03:11] <philipballew> id like that
[03:11] <akk> Maybe the thing to do is wait another six months before trying to package anything. :/
[03:13] <philipballew> id ask on #launchpad
[03:13] <philipballew> they would know there for sure, but thats just my two cents
[03:14] <akk> #launchpad has in the topic: for ubuntu packaging help join #ubuntu-packaging, so I'll try that.
[03:14] <philipballew> hum, seems even better. There are so many channels with ubuntu, its crazy
[03:14] <akk> yeah
[03:15] <akk> but that's better than one big channel (*cough* #ubuntu *cough*) where stuff flies by too fast for anyone to answer.
[03:16] <philipballew> there are better channels for help anyway then there, unless you are really knew to ubuntu
[03:16] <akk> What channels are good for help?
[03:19] <philipballew> #ubuntu-beginners #ubuntu-1 will be where any help for a dev release is. #ubuntu-motu has people who can help with packaging as its for people who are ubuntu maintainers. I usually ask askubuntu if noone answeres on irc within a hour
[03:19] <philipballew> sometimes on an evening like that maybe not everyone is around
[03:21] <philipballew> I have to go run a few errands now.
[03:21] <philipballew> take care
[03:21] <akk> thx, have fun!
[03:56] <DonkeyHotei> akk: the .changes file is generated by dpkg-buildpackage
[03:58] <akk> Oh! Cool, it did generate a .changes file in deb_dist/
[03:59] <DonkeyHotei> sorry i was afk right when you needed that
[04:00] <akk> Oh, but the .changes it made isn't signed ... maybe I need to run stdeb with different arguments somehow to get it to sign it.
[04:44] <scientes> how can i get vdpau video accelration with radeon driver, in mesa i've ehard
[04:44] <scientes> with 3d shaders (not UVD)
[04:44] <scientes> **vaapi
[05:32] <DonkeyHotei> scientes: http://askubuntu.com/questions/87395/how-can-i-enable-hardware-acceleration-for-an-ati-radeon-hd
[05:34] <scientes> DonkeyHotei, thats the non-free driver
[05:34] <scientes> i don't want that
[05:34] <scientes> mesa has it for radeon using 3d shaders
[05:34] <scientes> but thanks for trying
[05:39] <DonkeyHotei> according to the xorg website, radeon does not have it; only fglrx
[05:41] <DonkeyHotei> if i were forced to choose between nonfree ati drivers and nonfree nvidia drivers, i'd choose nvidia
[05:48] <bkerensa> philipballew: how is the crystal geyser supply :)
[05:51] <philipballew> got 15 more!
[05:51] <philipballew> had one for lunch and one for dinner
[05:51] <philipballew> bkerensa, it was the best idea for me to take them
[05:52] <bkerensa> :D
[05:52] <bkerensa> philipballew: drinking pisco was the worst idea I had
[05:52] <bkerensa> >.<
[05:52] <bkerensa> I ended up waking up at 1:30pm on Sunday
[05:52] <philipballew> what did that do?
[05:53] <philipballew> wow... thats a long sleep
[05:53] <bkerensa> luckily the hotels restaurant made me an amazing lunch even though they had technically closed
[05:56] <philipballew> oh wow. I had an egg roll I found in a freezer
[05:56] <philipballew> bkerensa, lives the high life
[05:57] <bkerensa> philipballew: hardly :P
[05:57] <bkerensa> philipballew: I totally thought you were going to leave your charger
[05:57] <philipballew> I was going to, untill I realized I forgot my train ticket and came back into the room and you alerted m to it
[15:18] <MarkDude> grantbow, pingy
[18:21] <philipballew> bkerensa, you around?
[18:21] <bkerensa> philipballew: yeah?
[18:21] <philipballew> Question. in the next few days can you write a recommendation for the membership board on my wiki?
[18:23] <bkerensa> philipballew: sure can its /phillipballew ?
[18:23] <philipballew> yeah bkerensa https://wiki.ubuntu.com/philipballew
[18:23] <bkerensa> kk
[18:27] <jyo> akk: IIRC, the prmgr vhosts are in Fremont.
[20:44] <pleia2> Corey: you about?
[20:44] <pleia2> Corey: if you're coming from work, wanna meet up along the way to balug again?
[21:37] <greg-g> btw, less than 50 bugs until LP hits 1,000,000
[21:39] <scientes> greg-g, ooo GETTT
[21:39] <greg-g> :)
[21:40] <scientes> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/yelp/+bug/999955
[21:40] <scientes> thats where we are
[21:41] <greg-g> scientes: you can see it here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/
[21:41] <scientes> oh thats easier than just plugging numbers in
[21:41] <greg-g> :)
[21:41] <greg-g> thought that's what you were doing
[21:46] <scientes> greg-g, ping me when we are like 10 to go, ok
[21:52] <greg-g> hah, ok, maybe, I'm tryinig to be a little productive, too ;)
[21:52] <greg-g> we're at 999959
[21:52] <greg-g> slower than I thought
[21:57] <scientes> greg-g, yes i noticed
[22:03] <greg-g> from #ubuntu-bugs:
[22:03] <greg-g> 17:59 <      Pici> bug 100000
[22:03] <greg-g> 17:59 <     ubot2> Launchpad bug 100000 in launchpad "There are still too many bug reports" [Undecided,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/100000
[22:03] <greg-g> 17:59 <      Pici> bug 1000
[22:03] <greg-g> 17:59 <     ubot2> Launchpad bug 1000 in null "There are too many bug reports in Malone" [Medium,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/1000
[22:11] <DonkeyHotei> https://bugs.launchpad.net/sven/+bug/999000
[22:13] <DonkeyHotei> this is the newest bug to date: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/999962
[22:14] <greg-g> at *64 now
[22:14] <scientes> greg-g, get back to work!
[22:15] <greg-g> :(
[22:15] <scientes> no doing what i asked you to do :)
[22:15] <DonkeyHotei> no, still at 62
[22:16] <DonkeyHotei> 63 is a 404
[22:16] <DonkeyHotei> so is 64
[22:17] <greg-g> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ says *64 bugs reported
[22:17] <greg-g> weird
[22:19] <DonkeyHotei> maybe two got unreported at some point
[22:24] <bkerensa> pleia2: do you think Ubuntu CA might want a booth possibly at PuppetConf? http://puppetconf.com/
[22:25] <DonkeyHotei> where will that be?
[22:25] <bkerensa> Mission Bay Conference Center in San Francisco
[22:26] <DonkeyHotei> ahh
[22:26] <DonkeyHotei> soon-ish?
[22:27] <bkerensa> September
[22:27] <bkerensa> However I would have to do the Introduction with whomever would run the booth beforehand
[22:50] <pleia2> bkerensa: yes
[22:51] <pleia2> and I can run the booth
[22:53] <bkerensa> pleia2: ok just cc'ed you to their Community Manager for the intro
[22:53] <bkerensa> :D
[22:54] <bkerensa> he is a nice guy
[22:54] <bkerensa> :)
[22:55] <pleia2> thanks :)
[22:55] <pleia2> will inspire me to track puppet development that will land in 12.10 more closely ;)
[22:56] <pleia2> and actually pay attention to puppet-play-nice-with-juju stuff
[22:57] <bkerensa> =o
[22:58] <bkerensa> pleia2: where is the group photo usually posted from UDS?
[22:58] <pleia2> the photographer's website, eventually
[22:58]  * pleia2 digs up
[22:59] <pleia2> http://www.pixoulphotography.com/
[22:59] <pleia2> once it's posted there everyone passes it around pretty quick on the social networking sites
[23:00] <bkerensa> ahh
[23:00] <bkerensa> :D
[23:21] <Corey> pleia2: Sure!
[23:21] <Corey> pleia2: What time?
[23:22] <pleia2> Corey: 6:15 at the dude with the flag statute?
[23:22] <pleia2> -t
[23:22] <pleia2> (was it a flag? I forget, same place as last time)
[23:22] <Corey> Sure!
[23:23] <pleia2> k, see you then :)
[23:39] <jyo> I presume there is some ancient Brasero bug(s) that causes it to err out when finalizing the disk.