[00:07] <bkerensa> Hmms
[00:07] <bkerensa> kees: yeah they look really slick... I heard the trackpad is touchy still?
[00:17] <kees> bkerensa: a bit, but much better than it was.
[00:36] <nathwill> arrrrgh
[00:36] <nathwill> this freaking server has been out for delivery since 4am
[00:36] <nathwill> gaaaah
[00:37]  * nathwill obsessively reloads ups.com again...
[00:51] <nathwill> WHOOO!!!
[06:01] <bkerensa> nathwill: what?
[06:01] <bkerensa> nathwill: are you now CEO?
[06:02] <bkerensa> nathwill: FYI you have landed in a DNSBL because Google wont let me e-mail you
[06:03] <bkerensa> wait
[06:03] <bkerensa> >.>
[06:03] <bkerensa> Google is listed in a DNSBL and you blocked Google :P
[06:03] <bkerensa> 209.85.210.47 -> http://www.sorbs.net/cgi-bin/db
[18:34] <nathwill> slangasek... default ubuntu php install has expose_php On..
[18:34] <nathwill> so ya get headers like: X-Powered-By: PHP/5.3.10-1ubuntu3.1
[18:34] <nathwill> would that be worthy of a bug, or do you think that was intentional...
[18:35] <nathwill> +adam_g, since it's a server thing... ^
[18:35] <slangasek> nathwill: I have no opinion on the matter :)
[18:35] <nathwill> lol
[18:36] <slangasek> I think it's a serious mistake that php5 is in Ubuntu main
[18:38] <slangasek> but whenever it's been suggested to kick it out, the server team balks for fear of the hate mail
[18:39] <bkerensa> Lizard Pumps Fist In Air!
[18:39] <nathwill> hrm.
[18:39] <nathwill> well screw it... i'll file a bug and they can tell me to burn and die if they want
[18:39] <bkerensa> php5 for win
[18:40] <bkerensa> now if Apache 2.4 lands in 12.10 I would be a happy duck
[18:41] <slangasek> that's an interesting definition of "win" ;)
[18:50] <nathwill> heh
[18:50] <nathwill> there's a patch for it..
[18:50] <nathwill> ./debian/patches/029-php.ini_paranoid.patch
[18:50] <nathwill> lovely
[18:53] <kees> nathwill: i think the php verbosity should match the apache version verbosity
[18:53] <kees> which I think is major.minor without entire package line.
[18:54] <nathwill> that's how nginx handles it too
[18:55] <kees> like debianbanner=no in sshd_config, though I wish that was a default
[18:57] <nathwill> is banner defined by default? i remember having to add banner in my squeeze install...
[18:58] <kees> i thought it was =yes by default. need to double-check
[18:59] <nathwill> well i'm not sure what debianbanner directive is... i've only seen Banner
[19:00] <nathwill> looks like Banner is in ubuntu server by default
[19:01] <tgm4883> whats in banner by default?
[19:01] <tgm4883> I don't recall even having that file on my 12.04 server
[19:01] <nathwill> Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[19:02] <nathwill> Banner points to /etc/issue.net
[19:02] <nathwill> and that's the contents
[19:03] <nathwill> i just wonder about any service that advertises identity details.
[19:12] <sbeattie> kees: yep, looks like (from experimentation and the man page) that  debianbanner=yes is the default. :/
[19:13]  * sbeattie +1's kicking php5 from main/the archive.
[19:15] <bkerensa> ;p
[19:18] <sbeattie> (the fact that I have a yet another security update for php in progress has no influence on my opinion, I swear. :) )
[19:33] <nathwill> sbeattie: lol
[19:57]  * tgm4883 sighs. oh microsoft
[20:17] <bkerensa> tgm4883: what have they done now?
[20:17] <nathwill> tgm4883: ?
[20:17] <bkerensa> release a new version of Windows Server?
[20:30] <bkerensa> nathwill: :D you gonna come play with the System76 Lemur Ultra I am getting next this week?
[20:30] <bkerensa> :P
[20:31] <nathwill> sure. wanna do a coffee get together?
[20:31] <nathwill> you get to host the next pdx ubuntu hour, btw... mine was a failure
[20:32] <bkerensa> nathwill: :P
[20:32] <bkerensa> ok then
[20:32] <bkerensa> umm yeah when the system76 lemur gets here I will ping you and we shall setup a coffee meet
[20:33]  * bkerensa has a stack of reviews he has to get cracking on... Article for Ubuntu User is done though (thank goodness)
[20:44] <nathwill> bkerensa, wc?
[20:55] <tgm4883> bkerensa, no, I'm trying to resolve some errors in sharepoint 2010
[20:55] <tgm4883> apparently though, sharepoint 2010 doesn't know about windows mount points when calculating free disk space
[20:56] <tgm4883> AND it wants enough free space that it can double the size of the largest database file
[20:56] <tgm4883> which is an issue, if you have iscsi mounts under C:\ and a 100GB DB file
[20:56] <tgm4883> so much for notifications
[21:00] <nathwill> lovely
[21:32] <bkerensa> nathwill: sweet... Klout just gave me the opp to be loaned a Chevy Volt for three days
[21:32] <bkerensa> >.<
[21:41] <nathwill> cool
[21:44] <kees> sbeattie: urgh!
[23:38] <bkerensa> :(
[23:38]  * bkerensa cut his thumb with a spline tool
[23:43] <nathwill> ouch
[23:56] <bkerensa> nathwill: you get the new CM 7.2.0 RC2?
[23:56] <nathwill> erm
[23:58] <nathwill> not seeing it in rom mgr
[23:58] <bkerensa> heh
[23:58] <bkerensa> I dont use rom mgr I just go to cm site
[23:59] <nathwill> i see a team android cm7.2.0-rm-v1.1
[23:59] <nathwill> which says i must be premium user to aquire