[00:00] So I keep getting a blacked out system upgrader failed window across center of screen. Has any one scene or heard of what I have described? [00:00] First Kubuntu install been ubuntu since 9.04. [00:00] anysuggestions would rock [00:01] JMichael|work, It's solved now. :3 [00:01] it occurs at boot time [00:01] HelenTheMelon: how did you solve it? [00:02] us.archive.ubuntu.com is a nightmare [00:02] JMichael|work, xset -dpms [00:05] HelenTheMelon: ty, good to know [00:05] ok... kubuntu netbook is finally running... and so far it seems really nice === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [01:21] hi [02:02] does gparted have a defrag feature I don't know about? [02:10] brad_: what do you mean by a defrag feature [02:52] What's the recommended apt frontend for KDE these days? I just installed Kubuntu, but found out that Muon Software Center is absolutely horrible and refuses to show most of the packages, with apparently no configuration options anywhere to show the missing ones. Tried asking in #kde but I guess everyone is sleeping atm. === EvilResistance is now known as Resistance [03:04] WereCatf: there are two muons - the software center which horrible and muon package manager, which I use [03:05] Why are there two? [03:05] WereCatf: I have seen reports of many who dislike Muon Package Manager, as well as problems. But in spite of some small flakiness that came and went because it was fixed - I've had pretty good luck with it [03:06] why 2? do not know [03:06] but the Software Center one is useless, imho [03:07] because of the fact Ubuntu has two managers: a Software Center (so you can buy certain softwares) and a Package Manager (synaptic, which is optional) [03:07] at least that's what i'm guessing, but... [03:08] I've used synaptic before and found it to be somewhat OK, but correct me if I'm wrong but it is GTK/Gnomish [03:10] I thought perhaps Muon Package Manager was like a Synaptic rewrite in Qt/KDE, but never looked into it to see. Just an impression I had [03:10] Wouldn't it make more sense to just consolidate both into same application and re-do the UI? :S [03:10] Why keep two completely different tools? [03:10] I'll never understand such decisions [03:11] it's to parallel USC/Synaptic [03:11] don't know - but esentially sounds like the old Gnome vs KDE stuff rehashed [03:11] for non-technicall users, packages are an odd concept [03:11] but "install this program" is easy to get [03:11] (and they took out Synaptic by default in Ubuntu) [03:11] like app store styff [03:11] *stuff [03:11] so it abstracts away packags in the software center one [03:12] if you're really technical and actually interested in this library or that library and this metapackage and whatnot, things that arent applications, but yet aren't a command line person, thats what the package manager one is for [03:12] afaik, that's how the software center v. synaptic split works too [03:12] apt-get and tools will perform all same functions using CLI only [03:12] There is no good reason why one couldn't just filter the stuff out in the software center by default, but have a tickbox for showing the actual packages, too [03:12] though i think ubuntu may have stopped shipping synaptic now, forcing users to the command line if they want a certain package [03:13] qbit: not everyone is comfortable touching the cli though [03:13] true enough [03:13] maco: they did a couple versions ago iirc [03:14] Oh well, anyways, I got what I wanted. I don't wish to bring the atmosphere down here so I'll try not to make any more negative comments :) [03:39] did nt i see something about clamav being able to be added to dolphin or something of that nature? [03:57] #$%$*&^()*_)() IT SHOULD BE ILLEGAL FOR WEB PAGES NOT TO HAVE AN UPDATE OR CREATED DATE [04:05] robotdevil: why? [04:06] so you can tell if if its outdated [04:07] http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=308667 wow I was really hoping that the clamscan under the services section would work [04:10] hola [04:40] Is there any thing I am missing??? Kubuntu 12.04 doesn't mount Iphones where as Ubuntu 12.04 willon same hardware [04:46] sad really... 12.04 is the most amazing Kubuntu to date... My company uses Iphones and needs that kind of ability to mount... Sad to see Kubuntu loose all that potential since there are a bollion Iphones and Iphone users!!! [04:49] Hmm... Something for Kubuntu to think about I guess... Back To Unity [04:56] vixi cai aki de parauqedas mas pelo que vejo e um bate papo que vem n kde ? [05:57] Good morning. === answer is now known as coderhs [06:32] safridzal: Hi ;) [06:32] hi Wizard [06:32] :D [06:32] The time has come to update Lynx to Precise. [06:32] Did anybody do this before? [06:33] Currently do-release-upgrade doesn't even notify me about such possibility, which is weird. [06:33] * safridzal prefer an ISO upgrade [06:34] Not at work, I some things to do. [06:34] I wonder if is it possible to download updates first and left the essential part of the upgrade for later. [06:35] do you mean to just download the package? not install them? [06:35] you can read that on man apt-get [06:36] the download only option [06:39] Yeah, this is obvius, but what about the update. [06:41] :] [06:41] what do you mean? [06:44] do-releas-upgrade downloads packages and immediately updates the system. [06:45] I would like to split this, download updates "in background" while working, launch updating at the end of the day. [06:47] Wizard: run the apt-get with -d option from tty2 or somwhere will do i think [06:49] safridzal: but that would require altering sources.list manually. I don't want to. I "trust" the updater. [06:51] well, i dont know about ubuntu way to upgrade.. :D I always do the mint way (ISO upgrade) to upgrade release :D [06:55] Meh. [08:05] is there any gui way to mount a device? [08:06] for example in krusader you can mount device [08:06] mountman? I tried that it only listed stuff that was already mounted [08:06] not stuff I haven't mounted yet [08:07] forgeaus: and what is not mountable ? [08:07] I'm fairly certain these things are mountable [08:07] If the device is register in mtab, and you have authority to mount it it should be listed in most file managers. [08:07] What exactly are you trying to mount? [08:07] the system-settings for removable devices lists them but I don't want automount I just want to mount for a while to use [08:08] a hard drive I have temporarily in a sata drive bay [08:08] the file systems are fine (FAT32 I think) [08:09] but if I do it on terminal I have to make directories and juggle what sd* is what [08:09] etc etc.. [08:10] OK, hmm. I used to use a program in GNOME to handle things like that back before the switch to GNOME 3. [08:10] oddly dolphin seems to know them all [08:10] I'll try that [08:11] I rarely use dolphin [08:13] I tend to use Dolphin these days. It seems more reliable. It doesn't have all the internal HTTP stuff to bog it down that Konqueror does. [08:13] I prefer to use Krusader [08:13] I used to use norton Commander, back in the day for DOS stuff [08:14] I'm still far more comfortable in that kind of environment [08:19] Good morning [08:34] If you like that type of environment you can configure Dolphin to that mode. Compact or details. To run fully keyboard driven, you can select with keyboard, select multiple with ctrl and use the menu key for options === Torch_ is now known as Torch [09:11] hi [09:11] hi, uh not so good a name choice by the way lol [09:11] Hey root___ === forgeaus is now known as ForgeAus [09:11] how to install adobe reader for backtrack [09:11] I think it is a fun name. [09:12] Is there a linux version of Adobe Reader? [09:12] fun perhaps, but dangerous if its what I think it is [09:12] i tried apt-get install adobe readerm but error [09:12] lordievader: maybe, I'm not sure [09:12] uh root___ backtrack? don't know what that is [09:12] but okular does pdf's for the most part [09:12] plesai knoz [09:12] Yeah it's probably not in the repos, check Adobe's website (look for a deb package) [09:12] lordievader: no if they do its not in the repos [09:13] !info Adobe [09:13] Package Adobe does not exist in precise [09:13] hmm [09:13] !info adobe-reader [09:13] Package adobe-reader does not exist in precise [09:13] see :) [09:13] yeah [09:13] thanks [09:13] flash is, reader and stuff like illustrator is a whole otehr story... [09:13] its all commercial anyway... [09:14] There is a linux version! http://get.adobe.com/reader/?promoid=HRZAC [09:14] you migth be able to get Linux editions I don't know [09:14] Oh and it is a .bin. [09:14] ahh there you go lordievader found one [09:14] yeah ... but there should be some info on how to install it from there [09:14] lordievader: afaik adobe reader is in medibuntu repo [09:14] anyway, back later, hav fun [09:15] CruX|: I see, didn't know that. [09:16] ForgeAus: ./.bin? === ocs is now known as bauLUCE === ocs is now known as bauLUCE [10:19] Why does anybody need AcrobatReader while Okular is so good? :> [10:19] Wizard: No idea, Okular is just fine [10:25] lordievader: I think the same. It also opens other formats! [10:41] Hey all === kubuntu is now known as Guest82214 [10:50] whats the plus symbol on the upper left of file icons in Dolphin? and can you turn it off? [10:51] ForgeAus: It is used for selections, you can use it instead of ctrl [10:53] Not sure on how to remove it. === kubuntu_ is now known as ebud [10:55] hi everybody [10:55] i have a quandary .... [10:56] !ask [10:56] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [10:56] hehe a quandary, ok is that like where you pick stone from? on no wait thats a quarry ... [10:56] I am writing a backup script for a ku buntu machine .... the script mounts the server using nfs, then drops back to the original user, then rsyncs the home directory [10:57] I would you do the mounting (root) and coming back to the normal user within the script without adding too much vulnerability? === ebud is now known as ehsansn [10:59] Hello [11:00] I use sudo dpkg -i *.deb with no problem but when I enter kdesudo dpkg -i *.deb it says:dpkg: error: need an action option [11:01] what is the problem? [11:01] ehsansn: If sudo works, why not just use that? [11:01] because I want to put it in a bash script [11:02] ehsansn: Sudo runs fine in scripts. [11:02] so that someone would just click the script and it installs all the .deb files [11:03] ehsansn: So it needs to go through the gui? [11:03] yes [11:03] ehsansn: Why than not just double click the .deb? [11:04] because there are lots of .deb files [11:04] including dependencies [11:05] ct529, have you seen this ? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo , it might help clarify a few things [11:05] ehsansn: You might need to add some "", so: kdesudo "dpkg -i *.deb" [11:06] It seemed that kdesudo captures some arguments that where ment for dpkg [11:06] ehsansn, no need for kdesudo in the terminal unless you want to launch a gui [11:06] BluesKaj: That is what he wants [11:06] BluesKaj: ciao! Yes thanks .... what I need is to mount and umount in the same script, do not want to leave it mounted .... also i want to be in sudo state only for mounting, not for rsync [11:07] dpkg -i in the krunner ? [11:07] yes I actually want the noob user to see the gui [11:07] ok , sorry to interrupt [11:08] BluesKaj: I want to minimise the time spent with the disk mounted and with the script in sudo. [11:08] kdesudo "dpkg -i *.deb" says dpkg: error processing *.deb (--install): [11:08] cannot access archive: No such file or directory [11:09] ehsansn: Than you need to use a for loop, dpkg can apparently not handle wildcards. [11:10] ehsansn, usually the terminal is best right off the top to get new ppl used to the cli , rather than molly coddle them with the gui...that's my opinion [11:10] BluesKaj: Same here, now that I know my way around in the terminal it made my life a lot easier :P [11:11] I think I found the way , I put dpkg -i *.deb in another bashscript and told kdesudo to run that script [11:14] thankyou all [11:15] ehsansn: Sure no problem, good luck with your linux noobs :P [11:15] :) [11:15] * BluesKaj wonders what ehsansn is trying to install ... I still don't understand ...but it's early here [11:16] From what I understand, he has a few noob users who need to install a folder full of .deb files. [11:17] Be back in a bit. [11:18] ok , didn't catch that [11:18] dear BluesKaj: here we shall pay for bandwidth so people don't want to pay for installing some free apps just to see how linux is. so I wondered I would pack them in folders and make a gui installer.and I want it to be as easy as possible for windows users to understand [11:18] does that now make sense? [11:21] well ehsansn to some degree , but it doesn't show how to install diferent kinds of apps , including compressed and apps in repos ...deb files aren't very representative actual linux install precedures ..but i do understand using debs since they come with their own built in installers [11:22] package managers would be esy for them to understand [11:24] rather sure apt-get could be understood [11:26] tanin, well windows users are used a more complicated install method , so I guess deb installers are sort of "familiar " :) [11:26] * lordievader Returns to his pc [11:27] ehsansn you are running the command from a shell, and are in the same directory as the .deb files you are trying to install. [11:27] oh thats true wasn't in dis agreement [11:27] no Ruediix [11:27] Im just running the bash file [11:28] ;) [11:28] ehsansn: It works now? [11:28] yes it actually does [11:28] how do you guys mention someone when chatting here? [11:29] you don't have to mention the whole name do you? [11:29] ehsansn: Just type the username [11:29] And just like in bash it (usually) has an autocomplete feature [11:29] lordievader: is it true? [11:30] ok thanks [11:30] ehsansn: What is ture? [11:30] true* [11:30] ;) [11:40] ehsansn Generally we type the whole username because people's chat clients highlight it for them. [11:41] I didn't know that before today [11:41] so thankyou [11:42] Personally, I wish they would use spellcheck algorithms to pick up possible misspelled and shortened usernames and highlight them a different color. [11:44] ehsansn, you would be surprised how many people spend years using a chat client with the feature and never notice that lines that have their username mentioned are highlighted. [11:49] RuediiX, some never try to configure the chat , they just go with it [11:50] client that is [11:52] Strangely, these are the defaults. But some people never try to learn the defaults either, point taken. === zero is now known as Guest90764 === cryptfu_ is now known as Guest81299 [12:11] hi, since upgrading to 12.04 global shortcuts (Fn+F9-12) in Clementine are not working.. I've tried to check Global shortcuts in system settings, but there's only amarok and I'm not really sure how to allow them.. any help? === Guest81299 is now known as cryptfu_ [12:15] greetings, I'm a tad confused about the package installation utilities in Kubuntu Precise: what's the point of qapt? [12:16] I'm trying to install the deb package for Opera that I got from their server [12:18] PsynoKhi0, try gdebi [12:20] Ezim: I suppose that will have to do, thanks [12:21] PsynoKhi0, np. === ryanakca_ is now known as ryanakca === bauLUCE is now known as faLUCE [13:00] Hi, isn't the network manager supposed to display a pop-up window to enter a wireless network's passphrase when set up not to save any credentials? [13:01] PsynoKhi0: That is indeed what it should do. [13:02] PsynoKhi0: Exception is of course unsecured wifi ;] [13:03] WPA2 networks in both cases [13:08] they both just get stuck at failed authentication and disconnect, I can get to the connection manager and enter the password there for one of them. The other is a WPA2 enterprise network with PEAP where I can again choose to not save my user's password, in which case the password field is disabled [13:10] brb [13:38] hi, how I use a html asignature in kmail? === lindalou is now known as westmi [13:59] I have installed fresh Kubuntu, and now want to know about a good package installer. i did once but not don't have in mind. any help. [13:59] almoxarife: can you please tell me about the package installer? [14:00] wizard: hey [14:01] ? [14:01] Hi cancer [14:01] I can't chat now. [14:02] I'll be back here in about 4 hours. [14:05] wizard: hi, sorry i was searching for help. can you please tell me about any package installer. [14:07] cancer: Hey, do you want a cli or a gui based package manager? [14:08] lordievader: gui [14:09] lordievader: i want the good one that work. cause default manager don't work fine. [14:10] cancer: With the default one you mean Muon I guess? Not my favorite either, you could install synaptic, that is my favorite gui based. (sudo apt-get install synaptic) [14:11] lordievader: http://paste.kde.org/480056/ [14:13] lordievader: how to change server settings? [14:13] how to change server settings? [14:15] cancer: Well I guess you could download the .deb from http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/synaptic (at the bottom of the page are the download links) [14:16] cancer, open settings, configure software settings, make sure canonical partners is checked ,as well as 3rdparty sources [14:17] in muon [14:20] How is the support of tv tuner cards (old ones) in linux? I'm cleaning my room and found one, I remember that there where no windows 7 drivers for it... [14:21] lordievader, i have an ati all in wonder tuner card , which used to work on tvtime ..haven't used it in a while tho. [14:22] blueskaj: software sources> other software> there are two, one with source code and one without it. do i have to do both [14:22] BluesKaj: Tvtime is a linux app? [14:22] I'll check that out later, thx [14:23] cancer , don't check the source code repos [14:24] yes lordievader tvtrime used to be a linux app for several types of tv tuners [14:24] !tvtime [14:25] blueskaj: http://imagebin.org/212586 | which one to check? [14:26] blueskaj: http://imagebin.org/212586 [14:27] lordievader: command to install pidgin [14:27] check canonical partners , but not the source code for any [14:28] lordievader, i see tvtime in muon and synaptic [14:28] BluesKaj: Oh ok, cool, thank you! [14:30] how to install pidgin [14:30] cancer: sudo apt-get install pidgin === Guest51192 is now known as Aranel [14:37] lordievader: do i need to update any of the packages. it's fresh installation so i don't know what to do. what's important [14:37] after 12.04 upgrade now plasma-desktop crashes with "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply" : " "Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)", any help? [14:39] cancer: You mean update the system? I would do so, yes. "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" [14:40] lordievader: will it do the all i need for me. [14:41] cancer: What do you mean? [14:43] muon also notifies available updates/upgrades in the panel , but I still prefer to use apt-get in the termianl [14:43] lordievader: i mean i don't know much about kubuntu. i mean will it update | upgrade every driver or software i could need. [14:45] cancer: It will update all of the programs currently installed. (If there are any update available ofcourse) [14:48] hi, I need some help with kmail, is it possible to use an html signature? [14:50] lordievader: please repeat the last command for update...... [14:50] lordievader: machine was restarted [14:51] cancer , copy and paste into the terminal, sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [14:52] oops cancer , wait [14:52] sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [14:54] blueskaj: what about this one, > sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [14:56] For as far as I know it does the same thing. [14:57] cancer, no, copy and paste the command i posted into the terminal , you can run the commands you mentioned , but they have to be run individually , the && links them together as one command [14:58] lordievader, neber used that versionof the command [14:58] never [14:58] but it seems to work :) [14:58] BluesKaj: I made an alias for it, now I just have to type update and he will do all that. [14:59] * BluesKaj learns someting new everyday [14:59] * lordievader learns something new everyday too [14:59] blueskaj: ok, i'll do it [14:59] thanks, anyway. [15:00] blueskaj: will these updates work for audio & video drivers. [15:00] ? [15:00] yes i use aliases ud for update , ug for upgrades , dist ...but I prefer not to jump to dist-upgrade directly , I always upgrade first then dist [15:00] cancer only for installed ones [15:01] BluesKaj: Does it not update installed drivers? (Through the additional drivers thingie) [15:02] lordievader, yes for installed drivers [15:03] Well then cancer the installed drivers will get updated with the command. [15:03] * lordievader has a cookie :D [15:04] the additional drivers "jockey" as it's known is an installer where one chooses to activate a driver , usually the the recommended diver is preferable [15:04] diver = driver :) === vprints_ is now known as vprints [15:15] Hehe, the tv tuner card just works! Thanks BluesKaj for pointing me to tvtime === withelm_ is now known as withelm [15:16] lordievader, cool :) [15:23] Is there a way to listen to a line in? [15:23] The tv card has its own line out, that is now connected to the line in of my sound card. [15:26] Nvm made some other connections.. [15:29] lordievader, yeah , that's the way the sound on most ati tv tuners work ..what model do you have ? [15:30] BluesKaj: Some kind of pinnacle card. [15:30] But I'm already surprised that it works, and so easily too. [15:32] yeah , actually pinnacle and Hauppauge are the best tuner cards from what I've seen in reviews [15:33] it's hard to top hauppauge in terms of support/compatability [15:33] I got what i paid for with the ATI ...it was on sale for half price ...it worked okk but the reolution was pretty crappy [15:34] I got an old pc from some friends, it had this card in it... [15:34] Never really used it though. [15:34] resolution was like VHS on slowest speed [15:34] I have 2 dual recieved hauppage HD cards, they are superb [15:35] ikonia, HD ? [15:35] I really can't fault them, 4 channels of HD capabiliy, full linux support, very immpressive === mgagne is now known as wftl [15:35] ikonia, nice [15:35] BluesKaj: well, they can read the HD channels on UK freeview and my machine is powerful enough to encode/decode them [15:35] it's rare I rate a product as well, in terms of design/price/compatability [15:37] does the tuner card integrate well with the video card or does it have it's own HD/hdmi outs? [15:37] etc [15:38] the video card is the output device [15:38] the tuner cards have no capability to display content [15:39] ok . wasn't sure if any tv cards had video out [15:39] some do, but they are more in line with the ati-all-in-wonder type thing [15:40] these are dedicated TV tuners, [15:40] This one has svideo out and composit (the yellow one) I believe. [15:40] that's my old tv card ..but it's strictly ntsc/pal std [15:42] Ain't that crazy, I remember searching for hours on Windows for drivers eventually giving up. And now just install tvtime and it just works! [15:43] lordievader Great! :) [15:45] I was looking at the Hauppauge pvr , and transfer hd content from my satpvr to the pc using the component video and digital audio outs [15:45] http://www.hauppauge.com/site/products/data_hdpvr.html [15:46] anything by hauppage I think your in for a good result (if you buy the right tool to do the job you want) [15:46] it's linux compatible , there's a website dedicated to it's use on 'buntu [15:46] exactly, they are great like that [15:50] unfortunately I settled for an outboard hard drive connected by USB to the satpvrto archive overflow ... had an old pvr with an unused 300G drive which came in useful [15:53] 30 bucks for a sata hdd enclosre , was a lot cheaper than 200bucks for the hauppauge ... we're on fixed income , so priorities and all that [16:11] Gotta go, cya [16:33] hey Daskreech === ubuntu is now known as Guest51247 [16:56] Hi BluesKaj === bill_ is now known as cbstxbill [17:20] how do i make Apper stop nagging me to upgrade to 12.04? [17:30] does apper have a notifier option maco ? if so turn it off [17:35] BluesKaj: ooh apper's a gui thing. i thought it was some background service daemon [17:36] BluesKaj: but no, no options regarding the notifications [17:36] just check daily [17:36] but apper nags every 15 minutes or so [17:36] maco, yeah , someone mentioned that it's upgrade of kpackagekit [17:38] maco, muon is probly the notifier you see [17:39] it says "Apper" at the top of the notification bubble [17:39] i also see muon notifiers when i have normal (not new release) updates [17:41] maco: you could probably just uninstall apper, and use only muon [17:42] ok. i wonder why upgrading to 11.10 didnt just do that then [17:44] anyone know a good PPA for the latest Kdenlive? [17:45] apper seems pretty good from what I've noticed [17:45] Muon works fine so no need for it but apper integrates into system-settings [17:48] the trouble with apper is it asks every 15 minutes about upgrading to 12.04 [17:48] and if you click the "cancel" on the window that comes up explaining 12.04 and being all "are you sure?" at you... it crashes [17:49] mr0wl, i knowe 1 ppa but hes not finished with it yeat [17:49] swecarp: which one is it? [17:50] mr0wl, heres his launchpad addy https://launchpad.net/~philip5 he has manny good ppa have hade some puter trubbel bet hes working on the new precise ppa s what i knowe [17:51] swecarp: oh great, thank you so much [17:52] mr0wl, his ppasw is werry good hav a look what hes have [18:07] Good evening [18:16] ? [18:21] just gave up on kmail for a 2nd time ... this time it's gonna be a while 'til I try it again [18:25] hello everyone [18:25] * Wizard returned. [18:25] Hi phoenix_firebrd. [18:26] Wizard: hi [18:27] Welcome back Wizard [18:30] lordievader: ;] [18:30] I haz a beer! [18:46] hi i have instaled kubuntu 12.04 and i have problem with fonts in google earth plz help [18:47] I installed Kubuntu 12.04 on my Acer laptop and I need some help getting the onboard camera to work [18:49] serge: screenshot [18:49] dugan_: precise "to work" [18:49] serge: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/01/how-to-fix-ugly-fonts-in-google-earth-6-2-on-ubuntu/ [18:49] serge: nvm ^^ [18:50] phoenix_firebrd: First link from google? :P [18:50] Wizard: :) [18:50] Wizard: i had the problem [18:50] I am a total noob when it comes to linux and need some help with installing camera that is built into the laptop [18:50] phoenix_firebrd: ;] [18:51] dugan_: It should work out of the box. [18:51] dugan_: is camera not working? [18:51] it's working on the windows side of the partition [18:51] dugan_: ya it should work normally [18:51] thx but this solution is not working on 12.04 (( [18:52] serge: sorry, forgot to tell you, restart after doing that [18:52] dugan_: huh? [18:54] when I start up Skype, there is no camera and when I check system settings there is no camera at all [18:54] scrennshot http://pixs.ru/showimage/snimok3png_2030869_4805558.png [18:55] dugan_: did you check with kopete? [18:55] nope, lemme check that now [18:56] serge: are you using russian language? [18:57] Seem so. [18:57] "Starup hint" [18:57] yes [19:01] serge: what is told you before was the only solution i can find on the internet [19:01] serge: did you restart after trying the solution? [19:02] yes restart but is not working(( i found this http://installuninstall.com/google-earth-6-2-ubuntu-12-04.html but google easth even not star after replace [19:02] has somebody an idea when the backports will be available for 12.04 or when (and how) to gain access to gimp 2.8 without using "strange" ppas? [19:03] Lemme read it. [19:03] thanks guys and gals.... that worked great [19:03] o_O [19:03] What worked great? [19:03] serge: kubuntu 64 bit? [19:03] yes [19:05]