[00:00] <muelli> eh. my bad.
[00:00] <muelli> Mc2992: just ask your question...
[00:00] <Mc2992> lol
[00:00] <KXTwo> Dmole: this is kkrauss on my other system.  I just checked, and I have more than enough beyond the minimum system requirements, but I still seem to be running slow
[00:00] <KXTwo> Dmole: I also have received a few internal errors
[00:01] <Mc2992> I am trying to install my video drivers but it doesn't work.  When I try to run the fgl_grxgears thing it says it doesnt' work.  I know I have an ATI Mobile Radeon x600 but I can't get the drivers to install right.
[00:01] <Mc2992> or something
[00:03] <Sheldon23> Mc2992, What is the output of (from terminal): sudo lshw -C display; lsb_release -a; uname -a
[00:03] <TomatoKetchup> yeah printing CDs in linux is a mess
[00:03] <Sheldon23> Mc2992, Let me put that in quotes.  Type in terminal, and let us know the output: "sudo lshw -C display; lsb_release -a; uname -a"
[00:05] <TomatoKetchup> Lunar_Lander_, what are you trying to do?
[00:05] <Mc2992>   *-display UNCLAIMED
[00:05] <Mc2992>        description: VGA compatible controller
[00:05] <Mc2992>        product: M24 1P [Radeon Mobility X600]
[00:05] <Mc2992>        vendor: Hynix Semiconductor (Hyundai Electronics)
[00:05] <Mc2992>        physical id: 0
[00:05] <Mc2992>        bus info: pci@0000:01:00.0
[00:05] <Mc2992>        version: 00
[00:05] <FloodBot1> Mc2992: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:05] <Dmole> what's a CD?
[00:06] <Lunar_Lander_> TomatoKetchup,when I switched to linux I still had my canon pixma ip3600 printer
[00:06] <Sheldon23> Mc2992, Looks like you have ATI drivers already installed.  If you're referring to the one under "Additional Drivers", there is none.
[00:06] <Lunar_Lander_> I then read up what needs to be done to install the printer on ubuntu and IIRC I tried to download the appropiate driver from Canon
[00:06] <TomatoKetchup> you found a driver from Canon?
[00:06] <Mc2992> So you think I'm good??
[00:06] <Lunar_Lander_> but any attempt to print led to the printing symbols showing for a minute and then simply disappearing
[00:06] <Mc2992> I guess I will load up my fps and see what happens.  Sorry for the flood.
[00:07] <Lunar_Lander_> yea, I think on Canon's website was a driver
[00:07] <Lunar_Lander_> .deb was the file I think
[00:07] <malkauns_> why do flash video's on 12.04 sometimes play fast?
[00:07] <TomatoKetchup> Lunar_Lander_, I'd use whatever ubuntu has when you go to add the printer, assuming yours is listed.
[00:08] <muelli> malkauns_: network packets travelling uphill (use a carrier pigeon)
[00:08] <malkauns_> muelli, huh?
[00:09] <malkauns_> is that some kind of nerdy joke?
[00:10] <TomatoKetchup> Lunar_Lander_, I don't see a linux driver at all on Canon's site... (the US site at least) for iP3600.
[00:10] <sirriffsalot> Hello! I have a wine-related question, but apparently I need an invite to join #wine...?
[00:11] <muelli> sirriffsalot: is it #wine-hq ?
[00:11] <sirriffsalot> muelli: no, should it?:)
[00:11] <sirriffsalot> muelli: #wine-hq doesn't exist..
[00:11] <anil> hey guys i am new to ubuntu. i have  a 64 bit processor 4 GB RAM 500 GB hard disk    i am going to use ubuntu ..no other OS.. cud u tell me the mount point for the partition in which OS ll be installed and how much swap space should i assign..
[00:12] <muelli> sirriffsalot: #winehq ?
[00:12] <Sheldon23> anil, Swap Space: 2GB should suffice.
[00:12] <sirriffsalot> muelli: winehq seems to be the one, cheers mate!
[00:12] <anil> what bout mount point?
[00:12] <alusion> my firefox and chromium browsers are being extremely slow and unresponsive this morning, can anyone help?
[00:13] <muelli> anil: well. the installer does everything for you, no? You really shouldn't need to answer those question (but you can of course if you want to...)
[00:13] <Sheldon23> anil, If you're installing it entirely on the disk (no other OS) then let it do the partitioning automatically.
[00:14] <escott> anil, if you want to hibernate the system the swap space must be at least as large as the used RAM. so having swap=RAM is a good idea.
[00:14] <TomatoKetchup> won't ubuntu pick / as mount point?
[00:14] <luciferis_> alusion ,slow internet?
[00:14] <anil> ok
[00:14] <luciferis_> maybe
[00:14] <anil> ok thanx guys
[00:14] <stiv2k> um
[00:14] <stiv2k> how do i sudo if i don't have a password?
[00:15] <alusion> luciferis_, no, because I have fios and usually my internet is up to par with the speeds. right now it wont load any page as it will stay just loading half way
[00:15] <escott> stiv2k, how do you not have a password
[00:15] <N4rc> Hello everyone, I'm having a hard time trying to boot Ubuntu from a USB stick on a friend's damned iMac. I tried several tricks but nothing seems to work. Any suggestions ? Thanks.
[00:15] <muelli> stiv2k: read "man sudoers"
[00:15] <stiv2k> escott its a pc i'm using as a media center, so it just logs in as soon as i turn it on
[00:15] <jayar> when i add aliases, do i need to logout/in again to make em work?
[00:15] <escott> stiv2k, you still had to establish a password when you installed the system
[00:15] <TomatoKetchup> thought it still required a password...
[00:15] <stiv2k> muelli so are you hinting at setting sudo to not ask for one
[00:16] <stiv2k> escott and then i removed it by going to users and groups
[00:16] <luciferis_> i'm begginner
[00:16] <bohemian9485> stiv2k: do you mean the current user account does not have the sudo privilege?
[00:16] <luciferis_> somkind of restricion? firewwall...
[00:16] <escott> stiv2k, no you didnt remove the password. you just said "log me in dont ask for the password" that different from saying "disable the password"
[00:16] <stiv2k> bohemian9485 he does have priviledge but the user has no password, so when i use sudo it asks me for a password that doesn't exist and a blank input won't work
[00:16] <stiv2k> escott no, i removed the password
[00:16] <Curt`> Hello. I am fairly new to Ubuntu. I plan on formatting my computer and setting it up to duel-boot with Ubunti 12.04 & Windows 7. With my current duel-boot setup, I cannot access the ubuntu-related partitions with Windows (however I can access Windows related partitions with Ubuntu). Is it possible / is a bad idea to have my /home folder on a NTSF format partition? Is there other options?
[00:16] <muelli> jayar: that's the very safe method. But you don't *need* to. Depending on where you defined the aliases. You could, f.e. source that file from other shells. Or do smth like "bash --login".
[00:17] <escott> stiv2k, why would you do a d**n fool thing like that?
[00:17] <stiv2k> escott i went to edit my password, then i pressed backspace until all the characters were gone
[00:17] <stiv2k> escott i just told you why
[00:17] <stiv2k> escott media center pc logs in automatically upon boot up and resume
[00:17] <TomatoKetchup> lolol
[00:17] <jayar> cool, thnx muelli
[00:17] <escott> stiv2k, now you are going to have to boot to recovery and set the password again, or boot a livecd and chroot in to set the password
[00:17] <stiv2k> escott are you on drugs?
[00:18] <stiv2k> i can just go to users and groups and set it again if i want
[00:18] <stiv2k> anyhow
[00:18] <TomatoKetchup> stiv2k, why do you feel the need to not have a password? the system can still login without asking for it... I see no reason to remove it entirely
[00:18] <muelli> Curt`: I think there were some ext3 drivers for windows. you might want to use them.
[00:18] <stiv2k> this is the only way i can use the system without the screen being locked upon suspend and resume
[00:18] <escott> stiv2k, im skeptical that "pressing backspace" in the password box actually removes the password.
[00:18] <N4rc> Curt`: I think you can install some drivers to be able to read ext2/ext3 on Windows.
[00:18] <stiv2k> TomatoKetchup this is the only way i can use the system without the screen being locked upon suspend and resume
[00:19] <stiv2k> escott i guess i can test it out
[00:19] <escott> stiv2k, just go into screensaver and disable the screen locking
[00:19] <bohemian9485> i remember that i messed up the sudoers file once (deleted it accidentally) and had to use the live cd to recreate it
[00:19] <TomatoKetchup> turn off the lock screen?
[00:19] <stiv2k> escott this is like, a machine i'm just playing around with, no sensitive data or anything
[00:19] <stiv2k> escott i did
[00:19] <stiv2k> its a bug
[00:19] <Lunar_Lander_> TomatoKetchup, sorry was disconnected
[00:19] <TomatoKetchup> Lunar_Lander_, it's cool, I saw you ping out
[00:19] <muelli> stiv2k: very likely :) Have you filed it? I.e. using "ubuntu-bug".
[00:19] <Curt`> muelli N4rc: Thanks. I'll take a look into that :)
[00:19] <KXTwo> I am having the worst problems with ubuntu 12.04.  It is sluggish, keeps locking up on me.  The system has more than enough to run it and I have no hardware problems wht the heck is going on.
[00:19] <stiv2k> muelli should already be filed as i found it using google
[00:20] <escott> Curt`, / cannot be NTFS or FAT. it must be a posix compliant FS. you might setup a folder that is NTFS and then symlink folders in $HOME (like Documents, Music etc) to folders in that ntfs mount
[00:20] <muelli> stiv2k: k. I hope you've clicked "this affects me" then. Mind sharing the bug with us for completeness?
[00:21] <N4rc> Curt`: I'm not sure they're compatible with Win7 though
[00:22] <N4rc> Curt`: Lookup Ext2Fsd
[00:22] <stiv2k> muelli https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-power-manager/+bug/871560
[00:22] <Curt`> escott symlinks are an option too thank you. N4rc you refering to the drivers?
[00:22] <N4rc> Curt`: Yes, but I just checked and they are
[00:23] <escott> Curt`, I would shy away from the windows ext drivers. you never hear about anyone using them, which is usually not a good sign
[00:23] <Curt`> Hehe I do plan on formatting my laptop in the near future. I could experiment with it a little.
[00:23] <muelli> Curt`: I would use the ext drivers as it's the technical appropriate way to access your files.
[00:24] <stiv2k> escott i see what you mean
[00:24] <stiv2k> escott i can't authenticate myself to set a new password :P
[00:24] <stiv2k> no biggie
[00:24] <stiv2k> its just a test rig
[00:25] <muelli> stiv2k: another bug then? ;-) Already filed?
[00:25] <escott> stiv2k, its the old trick of putting "\n" into your password. goodluck trying to login after that
[00:25] <stiv2k> muelli basically anywhere in the system expects me to still input a password even though i don't have one, when trying to do administrator tasks
[00:25] <stiv2k> escott maybe i can paste a unicode newline character into it
[00:25] <Curt`> Thank you all for your input. Im going to try Ext2Fsd. If I come unsuccessful, I'll see if there are other ext2 alternatives; otherwise I'll head towards the symlink approach.
[00:26] <stiv2k> i mean ascii newline*
[00:26] <escott> stiv2k, you could file that as another bug on the user-accounts thing. it should hopefully notice and prevent pastes that might include newline characters
[00:26] <muelli> stiv2k: FWIW: it'd be interesting to obtain your /etc/shadow to check what the actual password is after you "deleted" it. So in case you have a chance to get it, keep it.
[00:27] <KXTwo> Anyone know why I am having performance problems with my clean install of 12.04, its sluggish, freezes has eratic behavior.
[00:27] <stiv2k> muelli i can't read it :P
[00:27] <muelli> stiv2k: sure. But you need to boot another system anyway. And maybe you can then get hold of the file.
[00:27] <Mc2992> KXTwo:  Running default video drivers??
[00:28] <stiv2k> escott i was going to upgrade to 12.04 anyway via fresh install since lirc doesn't seem to work on 11.10
[00:28] <HelenTheMelon> escott, That didn't fix it.
[00:28] <escott> stiv2k, echoing muelli. im curious what your shadow says
[00:28] <stiv2k> ok
[00:28] <HelenTheMelon> I left my room for a short period of tim and came back and my screen had dulled.
[00:28] <HelenTheMelon> erm
[00:28] <KXTwo> Mc2992: yes, I tried installing the proprietary nvidia drivers via addition drivers but it broke mys system so I removed it.
[00:28] <HelenTheMelon> not dulled
[00:28] <HelenTheMelon> gone off
[00:28] <escott> HelenTheMelon, hmmm. maybe some screensaver is running that is not named "*saver*"
[00:29]  * HelenTheMelon sighs
[00:29] <Mc2992> Im a noob but almost guarantee that its the video drivers.  You might attempt to install them again or check the interweb for a how to there might be issues with the version you installed but a prior one might still work.
[00:29] <KXTwo> Mc2992: muelli told me not not use any proprietary drivers
[00:29] <muelli> aye
[00:29] <Mc2992> Kkk I would listen to him.
[00:30] <muelli> HelenTheMelon: do smth like "ps aux | pastebinit" or so and give us the link.
[00:30] <shawnboy> Ever have one of those days where you shouldn't have even gotten out of bed?
[00:30] <KXTwo> well that still gives me a problem of performance
[00:30] <KXTwo> everything is slow
[00:30] <muelli> shawnboy: oh, I found a dead easy way to recover your important files: Restore from a backup.
[00:30] <KXTwo> vista runs faster on this machine lol
[00:31] <shawnboy> I just uninstalled MythTV from my PC instead of in the remote window on a different PC. I used software center. Is there a way I can get the same version reinstalled or restored easily?
[00:31] <shawnboy> muelli, ha ha ha. thanks.
[00:31] <shawnboy> muelli, point taken
[00:31] <muelli> well shawnboy. You can install the same things using software centre, no..?
[00:31] <shawnboy> did I mention it was on my WIFE'S pc?
[00:32] <shawnboy> muelli, I suppose, but figured it may install the latest. Not sure if there's a way to force reinstall of the version that is cached under var?
[00:32] <muelli> heh shawnboy. Do you have a cat? Maybe you can make it run over the keyboard and then blame it. Oh, and it would also accidentally buy the new 50" TV you always wanted ;-)
[00:33] <HelenTheMelon> escott, http://paste.ubuntu.com/989910/
[00:33] <muelli> shawnboy: there is. but it's a hack. You can locate the .deb in /var/apt/archives (or the like, you'll figure out) and use dpkg -i on that deb. But mind you: it's a hack.
[00:33] <shawnboy> so... no suggestions on how to reinstall mythtv that is on my hdd already under var cache?
[00:33] <shawnboy> muelli, ok
[00:34] <Jordan_U> !undelete | shawnboy
[00:34] <shawnboy> ok. thanks, muelli
[00:34] <KXTwo> muelli: fyi I got my wireless working no problem
[00:34] <_schism_> anyone know of something that can edit a xlsm in ubuntu?
[00:34] <muelli> heh KXTwo. told you so ;-)
[00:35] <shawnboy> ugh. I need to just call it a day.
[00:35] <shawnboy> bye all.
[00:35] <muelli> _schism_: nano
[00:35] <KXTwo> muelli: you said I had crappy hardware and implied it was my fault! lol
[00:35] <stiv2k> KXTwo its your fault for buying crappy hardware
[00:35] <stiv2k> :)
[00:35] <KXTwo> muelli: but nwo if you could help me figure out my performance problems i'd be a happy man :)
[00:35] <KXTwo> stiv2k: that hurts, deeply :(
[00:35] <_schism_> muelli, thank you. looking for it now
[00:36] <muelli> KXTwo: I'd use "htop" to find out what's using up your CPU.
[00:36] <escott> HelenTheMelon, i have no idea what could be blanking your screen
[00:36] <KXTwo> psensors is running and my cpu hasnt broken 50 percent usage yet
[00:36] <_schism_> muelli, ummm wait isnt that nano a cli txt editor?
[00:36] <muelli> _schism_: sorry man. It's kind of a joke because nano is a simple (but very lovely) text editor and can edit any file...
[00:36] <stiv2k> muelli meh, you motivated me to get off my ass, i'm gonna reboot the tv into 12.04 liveUSB and get you the shadow file
[00:36] <TomatoKetchup> hrm, p7zip says it works on DMG files, telling me unknown suffix when I try to decompress though
[00:36] <_schism_> muelli, lol yeah soon as I said thanks I looked up in guake and actually have a txt file open in it now :)
[00:37] <muelli> _schism_: but your question isn't really enlightening me anyway. Maybe you could ask for a program to edit a specific type of file and not the suffix...
[00:37] <HelenTheMelon> escott, Could my netbook have a hardware screensaver?
[00:37] <escott> HelenTheMelon, never heard of such a thing. but maybe
[00:38] <HelenTheMelon> okay :3
[00:38] <_schism_> muelli, its a microsoft excel file of some sort i think.  I have no idea what ot os os why I am asking
[00:38] <Oer> HelenTheMelon, maybe not a screensaver, ACPI can control a timer to turn your screen off
[00:39] <KXTwo> what the hell is going on, I just did a reboot and have a system progarm problem detectecd
[00:39] <escott> Oer, is that not the same as DPMS or is this in addition to DPMS
[00:40] <escott> HelenTheMelon, is it dimming going to full black, or just a dimming backlight?
[00:40] <Oer> escott, correct, DPMS it is.
[00:40] <HelenTheMelon> escott, Going to full black. lol
[00:40] <Oer> S01 ~ S04
[00:41] <escott> HelenTheMelon, you could dig around in /sys maybe there is some acpi setting that is causing the display to turn off (or the backlight to go to zero)
[00:41] <HelenTheMelon> :o
[00:43] <sirriffsalot> Not getting any reply from winehq, would someone here happen to know if "inet:open_http_connection create_netconn failed: 10036" is simply my internet failing or something more?
[00:45] <DaDaDOSPrompt> came back to find my computer churning swiftly ?:[
[00:46] <sirriffsalot> Churning?
[00:55] <a_b0y> what program do you use to open rar files?
[00:56] <CoJaBo> a_b0y: 7zip
[00:56] <a_b0y> okay i'll search for it
[01:01] <escott> !info unrar | a_b0y
[01:02] <a_b0y> CoJaBo is that a command line program because i can't find it in the start menu
[01:03] <EvilResistance> a_b07: "start menu"?
[01:03] <EvilResistance> erm
[01:03] <EvilResistance> a_b0y:  ^
[01:03]  * EvilResistance beats his keyboard
[01:03] <trism> a_b0y: installing unrar adds the functionality to nautilus, so you can just right click and extract here rar files
[01:04] <EvilResistance> a_b0y:  installing 'unrar' allow syou to unrar a file that is a .rar archive
[01:04] <CoJaBo> a_b0y: Huh.. yeh, the GUI is windows only it seems- i haven't used a GUI extractor in two years lol, never noticed
[01:04] <ickefes> hi guys. do you know why samba on the windows machine creates a duplicate file that ends with a "~"? For example a cue file had a duplicate that ended with .cue~instead.
[01:04] <a_b0y> so what is 7zip?
[01:05] <Boohbah> a_b0y: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7-Zip
[01:05] <CoJaBo> a_b0y:  The Linux virgin is command line only- which, really, isn't that hard to learn and is faster
[01:05] <CoJaBo> :P
[01:05] <CoJaBo> version*
[01:06] <a_b0y> so what is the command line
[01:07] <CoJaBo> terminal. bash. thingy-that-bears-a-passing-resemblance-to-a-DOS-prompt?
[01:07] <a_b0y> i mean what do i type to use 7zip to extract the files
[01:08] <CoJaBo> 7z x archive.rar
[01:09] <bob921> msg NickServ identify 32167
[01:09] <prpplague> doh
[01:10] <prpplague> bob921: time to change the password
[01:10] <bob921> yup
[01:10] <tking0036> lol
[01:10] <tking0036> cant you put your pass in your irc client so it will identify for you?
[01:11] <a_b0y> CoJaBo it says unsupported method
[01:12] <CoJaBo> a_b0y:  You need unrar then; that happens with some 1% of encrypted rars..
[01:12] <tking0036> a_b0y: just do sudo apt-get install unrar-free
[01:12] <Boohbah> tking0036: yes
[01:12] <CoJaBo> tking0036:  the free version doesn't work either
[01:13] <Chelo> Hi All
[01:13] <tking0036> you could just get rar off of the winrar website http://rarlab.com
[01:13] <Chelo> Does anybody knows if Ubuntu 12 works fine with ATI Mobility Radeon HD 6XXXM ?
[01:14] <a_b0y> okay it works, thanks tking0036
[01:14] <tking0036> a_boy: np
[01:14] <N4rc> Hello everyone, I'm having a hard time trying to boot the Ubuntu install from a USB stick on a friend's damned iMac. I tried the wiki and a lot of other things but nothing seems to work, the mac doesn't even see the USB drive at boot. Any suggestions ? Thanks.
[01:14] <tking0036> N4rc: use unetbootin
[01:15] <tking0036> N4rc: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[01:16] <N4rc> tking0036: I thought the resulting USB drive was not compatible with Mac OS... I'll try then, thanks
[01:17] <tking0036> N4rc: you can then plug in the usb drive and hold down option
[01:17] <tking0036> N4rc
[01:17] <tking0036> N4rc: and it will open the bootloader and select the usb drive
[01:18] <N4rc> tking0036: What about : "Note that resulting USB drives are bootable only on PCs (not on Macs)."
[01:18] <N4rc> ?
[01:18] <tking0036> where does it say that
[01:18] <tking0036> oh.. i see it now...
[01:19] <N4rc> tking0036: On the unetbootin homepage
[01:19] <N4rc> tking0036: Yes, that's why I didn't try
[01:19] <tking0036> i guess try this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/How%20to%20install%20Ubuntu%20on%20MacBook%20using%20USB%20Stick
[01:19] <tamaros> anyone know why the gnome-shell for pangolin was deleted from the repository today?
[01:19] <tamaros> from the gnome-team/gnome3 ppa repostory that is
[01:21] <N4rc> tking0036: Yeah, I tried that too. I came here because I'm running out of options. Thanks for helping me anyway :)
[01:21] <tking0036> sorry... my bad...
[01:22] <N4rc> tking0036: Nothing to be sorry about. Except the mac maybe.
[01:23] <ASiD_K00L> any1 here can pm about BT5 armitage
[01:24] <sunitasethi> hi
[01:24] <xid> would it prevent your boot from completing if an init.d script fails and prompts you to overwrite a file?
[01:25] <Boohbah> ASiD_K00L: /join #backtrack-linux
[01:25] <xid> i mean, will it stop subsequent init.d scripts from loading?
[01:25] <xid> it does doesn't it?
[01:28] <mh512> hi, I am on ubuntu 12.04 and I am having display related problems on my laptop. brightness control does not work, xrandr gives "Failed to get size of gamma for output default". setting xorg does not seem to help.
[01:28] <KXTwo> tyler_d: whats up man, was hoping to see you on here
[01:29] <mh512> I have a separate partition running 10.10 and I did not have such display issues.
[01:29] <harushimo> does django work with the current version of ubuntu
[01:29] <harushimo> ?
[01:30] <mh512> harushimo: why not?
[01:30] <xid> will la failed init.d script that prompts for command line input cause subsequent init.d scripts from being called?
[01:30] <KXTwo> any thoughts on my my 12.04 system is running so slow.  Even just isntalling something through software center is taking forever.
[01:30] <harushimo> I don't know
[01:30] <a_b0y> can someone check a weblink for me?
[01:30] <mh512> harushimo: are u having errors?
[01:30] <harushimo> I'm going to do apt-get install django
[01:31] <mh512> harushimo: i recommend the
[01:31] <harushimo> source file?
[01:31] <xid> don't do it... apt-get install rails instead
[01:31] <harushimo> why?
[01:31] <mh512> harushimo: dont do apt-get
[01:32] <sary> a_b0y: sure go ahead , in /query sary
[01:32] <harushimo> oh okay
[01:32] <harushimo> install it from the source file?
[01:32] <mh512> yeah. thats always the freshest
[01:32] <mcdonc> harushimo: sudo apt-get install python-setuptools python-virtualenv
[01:32] <Mc2992> Anyone ever had problems loading the steam client on ubuntu??
[01:32] <harushimo> that is exactly  what I was thinking
[01:33] <harushimo> thank you
[01:33] <mcdonc> then: cd ~/; virtualenv dj; cd dj; bin/easy_install Django
[01:33] <harushimo> oh okay
[01:34] <harushimo> I will do that
[01:34] <mh512> yeah that way is better
[01:34] <harushimo> I remember doing the upgrade django on the previous verison of ubuntu through the setup tools for python
[01:34] <harushimo> I forgot about that way
[01:34] <harushimo> thank you
[01:35] <neo_> how do I unsend a bug report?
[01:35] <harushimo> python is heavily integrated in ubuntu right?
[01:35] <neo_> yes
[01:35] <harushimo> that is what I thought. I was going to upgrade python too
[01:35] <mcdonc> python is used for almost every canonical gui app
[01:35] <escott> neo_, find the bug report and close it
[01:35] <stiv2k> muelli
[01:35] <stiv2k> where did he go
[01:35] <stiv2k> escott
[01:35] <harushimo> you are right
[01:36] <escott> stiv2k, yes?
[01:36] <stiv2k> hang around for another minute
[01:36] <stiv2k> i had to burn 12.04 to a CD i forgot this laptop didnt have usb booting support
[01:36] <stiv2k> so i can get the shadow file
[01:36] <mcdonc> i wouldn't bother upgrading python if you're on 12.04.. it's a pretty recent version
[01:37] <neo_> I dont know how to close a bug report, Its located at http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=9cdceebd9ad1381f5138000aac53968b9086efb5 It was fixed by installing hda-jack-retask
[01:38] <Lunar_Lander_> good night!
[01:40] <neo_> any idea why 'sudo /etc/init.d/pulseaudio stop' doesnt stop audio?
[01:41] <Mc2992> Any ideas on why Steam client won't start??  IT downloads and when I click the icon it acts like it will start but then just stops nothing happens
[01:41] <ResolutionHD> I need help setting configuring my external HDD a perminant mouting point
[01:41] <stiv2k> i hope lirc works on 12.04
[01:41] <neo_> I would guess Steam wouldnt work because of wine
[01:41] <stiv2k> i'd like to get my remote to do cool things
[01:41] <escott> ResolutionHD, what location do you want? what kind of filesystem is it?
[01:41] <ResolutionHD> I formated it is a ex4
[01:42] <Mc2992> Suggestions on how to fix that??
[01:42] <escott> Mc2992, check the winehq database
[01:42] <ResolutionHD> I want to set a point where i an access it from my home directory
[01:42] <Mc2992> I had it working on my previos install but then I had to re install same version 12.04 and now it won't start.
[01:43] <escott> ResolutionHD, you mean you want it inside you $HOME? thats moderately unusual, but possible
[01:43] <ResolutionHD> Okay I can set it anywhere it doesnt matter
[01:44] <ResolutionHD> I just want it to be the same everytime I hook it up
[01:44] <escott> ResolutionHD, basically all you need to do is the following: 1) run sudo blkid and identify the UUID that is associated with the device (you cannot trust /dev/sdb to always be sdb sometimes it might be sdc or other device labels so use the UUID)
[01:45] <ResolutionHD> Okay then how can I make it mount to a perminant position with that?
[01:45] <escott> ResolutionHD, then run "gksudo gedit /etc/fstab" and add a line that says "UUID=????? /whatever/mountpoint/you/want ext4 defaults 0 2" (the last column could be 0 if you dont want it fscked, but 2 will check it for errors periodically
[01:45] <stiv2k> escott shit... liveCD does kernel panic....
[01:45] <stiv2k> escott what do i do :S
[01:46] <escott> stiv2k, can't remember what your problem was
[01:46] <escott> stiv2k, the password right
[01:46] <stiv2k> escott i had a passwordless user and you want to see the shadow file
[01:46] <escott> stiv2k, odd that you are getting a panic. can't you boot whatever you used to do the original install
[01:46] <stiv2k> probably
[01:46] <stiv2k> but i want to wipe it and install 12.04 anyway
[01:46] <escott> stiv2k, or can you just boot the rescue mode?
[01:46] <stiv2k> instead of 11.10
[01:47] <escott> stiv2k, so you have a 12.04 panic. what is the nature of the panice?
[01:47] <Mischinka> Lol i have a 12.04 panic too
[01:47] <neo_> I had one too, I just reinstalled
[01:47] <ResolutionHD> escott, Could you give me an example? I dont wanna get the syntax wrong
[01:47] <stiv2k> escott it just panics before i can get logged in
[01:47] <stiv2k> while booting up
[01:47] <Mischinka> Mine has to do with properly upgrading my apache server.
[01:47] <stiv2k> escott maybe i should do nomodeset
[01:48] <escott> ResolutionHD, the existing fstab should have entries for the / filesystem. yours should be similar to that but with a "2" instead of a "1" in the last column, and a different UUID and the mountpoint is /whatever instead of /
[01:48] <escott> ResolutionHD, given that this is a removable I would put it under either /media or /mnt
[01:49] <escott> ResolutionHD, If you want to have something like "files in $HOME/Music" are actually on the removable drive you can symlink Music to /media/removable/Music
[01:49] <ResolutionHD> Thats what I wanna do how can i do that
[01:50] <escott> ResolutionHD, well first get the removable drive mounted in a good location. /mnt/something or /media/something so that you can identify it
[01:50] <stiv2k> escott if i boot with nomodeset is it going to create the installation using the vesa video driver or something
[01:50] <escott> ResolutionHD, so create the fstab entry and then paste that line in here
[01:51] <ResolutionHD> escott UUID=d3b5b6f4-7ae3-4667-8199-33347aa919d6 /mnt/HDD ext4 defaults 0 2
[01:51] <escott> stiv2k, its not going to use kernel modesetting, that might mean that X falls back to vesa or it might mean that X does its user space modesetting
[01:51] <escott> ResolutionHD, ok. then you would "sudo mkdir /mnt/HDD; sudo chmod 777 /mnt/HDD; sudo mount /mnt/HDD;"
[01:52] <stiv2k> escott is that going to change configuration when i install to the hard drive though?
[01:52] <escott> stiv2k, you might install the proprietary drivers
[01:53] <ResolutionHD> escott okay now what
[01:53] <escott> ResolutionHD, type "mount" to verify that the /mnt/HDD is listed as one of the mounted filesystems, and "ls /mnt/HDD" to see what is currently in the folder
[01:54] <stiv2k> escott its still crashing with nomodeset
[01:54] <escott> stiv2k, what is the panic? what does it say?
[01:54] <stiv2k> just a long back trace
[01:56] <KXTwo> this is seriously driving me to the poitn of insanity
[01:56] <KXTwo> every document
[01:56] <stiv2k> escott i think its b43
[01:56] <stiv2k> how do i prevent b43 from loading
[01:56] <KXTwo> ever article I can find online, says that my problem is using the default ddriver for my nvida card
[01:56] <ResolutionHD> okay it is
[01:56] <KXTwo> so it tells me to install the proprietary one
[01:56] <stiv2k> part of the backtrace says b43 in it
[01:56] <escott> ResolutionHD, assuming those two give the results you want. and suppose you wanted the "~/Music" folder to actually be /mnt/HDD/Music then you would issue the following commands (note that sudo is NOT used) "rmdir ~/Music; mkdir /mnt/HDD/Music; ln -s /mnt/HDD/Music ~/Music"
[01:56] <KXTwo> but as soon as i do it breaks my fucking system!
[01:57] <escott> ResolutionHD, rmdir only removes empty directories so if you have files in ~/Music you need to move those first
[01:57] <Takyoji> Anyone know how to resolve the issue of CDs/DVDs not showing up sometimes in Nautilus?
[01:58] <KXTwo> its amazing that in two days and with all the people that come in here I cant figure this out
[01:58] <stiv2k> escott how do i prevent the livecd from loading b43
[01:58] <ASiD_K00L> any1 use BT5 can give me help in pm... no help in other chan
[01:58] <escott> stiv2k, module_name.blacklist=yes as a kernel parameter https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/installation-guide/sparc/boot-parms.html
[01:58] <ResolutionHD> sweet ty
[01:58] <stiv2k> escott sparc?
[01:59] <stiv2k> escott 8.04?
[01:59] <ResolutionHD> escott Thanks just what I wanted
[01:59] <KXTwo> I think i am done with ubuntu this is absurd
[01:59] <escott> ResolutionHD, then if you "touch ~/Music/testfile" you should see it if you "ls /mnt/HDD/Music"
[02:00] <thisisjet> Hello. I bought a laptop which came with windows. Then I burned my windows recovery DVD's via the provided wizard. This is good as I no longer have to worry about loosing my windows install/license while installing linux.
[02:00] <thisisjet> So now I am running Ubuntu, and have these recovery DVD's, but I am thinking it would be great if I could make disk images of the DVDs and save them to an external hdd. Then I'd not need to keep track of the physical disks. So What I am asking is: What is the best way to make an image of a windows recovery dvd so I can recreate the dvds later if I ever need?
[02:00] <Ben64> KXTwo: which video card
[02:00] <escott> KXTwo, nvidia is a bit of a pain
[02:00] <ResolutionHD> Escott yes it works perfect thanks again
[02:01] <escott> ResolutionHD, you might give it a reboot to make sure it gets mounted properly on boot. there is a risk that a USB device might cause the boot to fail (if usb enumeration occurs after mount all)
[02:01] <KXTwo> Ben64: escott I am about over this though.  I have followed exaclty what every person/article says to do.  I install the right driver.  I was going to not install it at lal but I am having peformance issue and everyone says its because im not using the right video driver.  Yet despite following instructions to a T AND using the drive that is suposedly tested BY ubuntu teams as soon as I install it, I no longer have access to my external mo
[02:01] <KXTwo> nitor and cant doa nything on the primary
[02:01] <KXTwo> frankly its a fucking joke, i am in a lose lose situation, crappy performance, or broken video card.
[02:01] <trevorj> Hello all, is there any way to allow dd to skip= over a pipe/stream?
[02:02] <escott> KXTwo, thats the downside of proprietary drivers. we don't know what nvidia put in them
[02:02] <KXTwo> Ben64: it is a geforce go 6100.
[02:02] <trevorj> escott: 100% agreed sir
[02:02] <escott> KXTwo, also please keep in mind this is a volunteer supported channel. so try to keep the attitude positive
[02:02] <trevorj> ATI's drivers are fantastic these days now that they are open sourced
[02:03] <KXTwo> escott: i understand that but it says tested, also there are no documents indicating to do it the other way. the binary driver site all says to just do iot through additional drivers.
[02:03] <escott> trevorj, what do you mean skip?
[02:03] <trevorj> escott: as in seek past X blocks of input data
[02:03] <trevorj> escott: it works with a standard file, but not with a pipe in my tests
[02:03] <trevorj> escott: If it doesn't work I'll just have to modify dd but I was making sure I'm just not doing something wrong here
[02:04] <KXTwo> so far not a single driver that I have used via the additional drivers option has worked.  I ahd to use a workaround for my wireless card.  and had another nvidia problem with a different system.  But I can find no workaround for this
[02:04] <escott> trevorj, skip=??
[02:04] <trevorj> escott: yep
[02:04] <Ben64> KXTwo: you could try a newer driver via https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates
[02:04] <escott> trevorj, so the skip=BLOCKS argument doesn't work
[02:05] <trevorj> escott: dd: `standard input': cannot skip to specified offset
[02:05] <KXTwo> my system is so jacked right now I think only a reinstall will fix it
[02:05] <KXTwo> even booting an older version is being silly
[02:05] <escott> trevorj, you could use tail +bytes to jump a number of bytes in the stream and then send to dd
[02:05] <trevorj> KXTwo: beware of ppas, they are not magic fixes; ie you must use someting ala ppa-purge to remove them
[02:06] <KXTwo> this is all beyond me at this point anyway
[02:06] <KXTwo> I think I have no choice but to reinstall
[02:06] <KXTwo> im going to try a different distro I think
[02:06] <KXTwo> windows vista ran better on this laptop
[02:06] <trevorj> KXTwo: That won't help
[02:06] <Ben64> what exactly is it doing after you install the driver that you aren't liking
[02:06] <stiv2k> trevorj sup
[02:06] <trevorj> sup stiv2k
[02:06] <stiv2k> escott i'm in
[02:06] <stiv2k> let me get you the shadow file
[02:06] <stiv2k> looks like b43 was causing it to panic
[02:07] <trevorj> stiv2k: b43 is rather carpy
[02:07] <stiv2k> yeah
[02:07] <trevorj> stiv2k: not the dev's fault I imagine, but lack of docs, etc, etc you know
[02:07] <KXTwo> Ben64: I installed this on my old laptop that has a broken monitor.  i have it hooekd up to an external one.  once I instal the driver, it will no longer display to the external monitor.  And even when i can manage a signal to the broken one I cannot do anything, the desktop doesnt finish loading.  I can topen a terminal or switch to a console, virtually nothing other than creating a new docoument or folder
[02:07] <stiv2k> trevorj its fun to blame the devs though :P
[02:08] <escott> trevorj, some carp are nice. koi are particularly pretty
[02:08] <Anacranom> here's he bottom line, if you use the vendor's driver, you're fine- until there's a kernel update, then you have to re-install it again --- if you use the distro's driver, it will survive a kernel update, but- what are you losing?...
[02:08] <trevorj> escott: yes, yes they are ;)
[02:08] <ResolutionHD> Escott, How do I make it where I can run a command on any terminal without having to go to the directory?
[02:08] <Ben64> KXTwo: try installing a remote desktop thing (vnc or whatever you prefer) open up nvidia-settings and tell it to display to the external monitor only
[02:08] <stiv2k> trevorj remember our channel #gentoo-noob
[02:08] <KXTwo> Ben64: I would be fine just using the dfault driver and staying away from nvida drivers, but my system is sluggish and people suggest its the driver
[02:08] <trevorj> stiv2k: yes!
[02:09] <stiv2k> trevorj like a decade ago
[02:09] <KXTwo> Ben64: thats not going to work when the desktop doesnt even finish loading
[02:09] <stiv2k> Lol
[02:09] <escott> ResolutionHD, you mean add a program to you path?
[02:09] <trevorj> stiv2k: funny that was that long ago
[02:09] <trevorj> stiv2k: we're old these days
[02:09] <Ben64> KXTwo: maybe it finishes loading on the main monitor?
[02:09] <ResolutionHD> Nvm I figured it out yes that was it
[02:09] <KXTwo> Ben64: that doesnt even make sense, its a software issue, not a display issue
[02:09] <trevorj> KXTwo: it's a driver issue**
[02:09] <escott> ResolutionHD, if you have a custom program just for yourself, the best place to put it is in ~/bin, on your next login ~/bin will be added to your path
[02:09] <KXTwo> trevorj: pretty sure drivers are software :)
[02:10] <gar> anyone good with postfix that could please help ?
[02:10] <trevorj> gar: I am sir
[02:10] <Ben64> KXTwo: the main monitor doesn't work.. it usually expects it to work, so it likely is displaying everything on it
[02:10] <trevorj> gar: fire away
[02:10] <KXTwo> i'm removing the driver now while booted into an older version
[02:10] <KXTwo> Ben64: I don't think I explained it to you in a way that makes you understand
 Ben64: I installed this on my old laptop that has a broken monitor.  i have it hooekd up to an external one.
[02:10] <Ben64> pretty clear cut
[02:10] <KXTwo> Ben64: even if it was displaying to the external monitor, my system is still broken
[02:10] <gar> trevorj: Okay. I try to do ehlo and I get temporary lookup failure
[02:10] <gar> trevorj: just trying to send out to the internet
[02:11] <trevorj> gar: transport maps?
[02:11] <KXTwo> Ben64: the lack of displaying to external monitor was simply another symptom
[02:11] <Ben64> KXTwo: how can you tell it's broken when you can't see what is on the main screen?
[02:11] <trevorj> gar: do you have anything odd in your postfix config?
[02:11] <trevorj> gar: specifically main.cf?
[02:11] <trevorj> gar: or are you just getting DNS lookup failures
[02:11] <KXTwo> Ben64: ok Im goin to go for a run before my frustration explodes
[02:11] <KXTwo> Ben64: I told you i can see the old monitor, its just in shotty condition
[02:11] <trevorj> KXTwo: make sure the monitors are set to dupe the display
[02:11] <trevorj> KXTwo: this is not default
[02:11] <KXTwo> Ben64: there is a bad connection in it so I have to basicaly squeeze it, I can see the mouse move, I can see what I am doing
[02:12] <gar> trevorj: nothing special...i can lookup the hostnames on the box
[02:12] <trevorj> gar: can you pastebin me your main.cf and the last 50 lines of your mail.log?
[02:12] <KXTwo> Ben64: the desktop does not finish loading, no display bar, simply my psensors.  when i switch to console it is black screen, when I open terminal either nothing happens or it completely freezes
[02:12] <KXTwo> Ben64: the only thing I can do is right click to get a new...
[02:12] <KXTwo> trevorj: I literaly can do nothing, I cannot get into any settings
[02:12] <gar> trevorj: will do
[02:12] <Ben64> KXTwo: have you tried Ubuntu 2D or gnome fallback?
[02:12] <trevorj> KXTwo: ssh!
[02:12] <gar> thanks
[02:13] <KXTwo> trevorj: the only thing I can do is boot older version, remove driver then reboot
[02:13] <trevorj> KXTwo: ctrl+alt+F1 gets to a tty
[02:13] <Ben64> and yeah, ssh
[02:13] <trevorj> KXTwo: actually vty
[02:13] <gar> trevorj: where is mail.log :)
[02:13] <stiv2k> escott wtf
[02:13] <trevorj> gar: tail -n 50 /var/log/mail.log
[02:13] <stiv2k> escott why does it say shadow is binary
[02:13] <KXTwo> trevorj: I know this, I cant do that either
[02:13] <KXTwo> trevorj: this si what I am trying to tell you, its not just effecting the video, its broken the system!
[02:13] <trevorj> KXTwo: thank nvidia for that
[02:14] <Ben64> KXTwo: gnome-fallback, ssh
[02:14] <escott> stiv2k, /etc/shadow???
[02:14] <trevorj> KXTwo: remove all ppas, reinstall latest drivers from offical ubuntu nvidia latest driver ppa
[02:14] <trevorj> KXTwo: by remove, I mean literally use ppa-purge
[02:14] <stiv2k> escott nvm
[02:14] <KXTwo> I am unfarmilir with ppa
[02:14] <stiv2k> escott i don't have read permission yet
[02:14] <KXTwo> I am a basic noob to this
[02:14] <KXTwo> on my oler systems I just sued additional drivers
[02:14] <KXTwo> and everything was fine
[02:14] <trevorj> KXTwo: ppas are additional apt repos
[02:15] <KXTwo> also 10.10 on my older system runs faster than 12.04 on this one
[02:15] <trevorj> KXTwo: here's the easy way to diagnose this
[02:15] <trevorj> KXTwo: setup openssh server and a static IP in /etc/network/interfaces for your ethernet device
[02:15] <trevorj> KXTwo: then when you boot it you'll actually have access to it through ssh and you can try things
[02:15] <trevorj> KXTwo: otherwise you're shooting nasty fish in a barrel
[02:16] <KXTwo> god damn it
[02:16] <KXTwo> this tiem when I removed the driver
[02:16] <Ben64> and install gnome fallback
[02:16] <KXTwo> now my resolution is all jacked up
[02:16] <trevorj> KXTwo: did you create an xorg.conf?
[02:16] <KXTwo> yes and I ran nvidia-xconfig etc
[02:16] <trevorj> KXTwo: you need to tell us what exactly you have done so far or it's very hard for us to help =(
[02:16] <KXTwo> but it fixed itself
[02:16] <trevorj> KXTwo: ok great
[02:16] <stiv2k> escott ok got it
[02:17] <KXTwo> trevorj: I have done what anyone else would ahve done
[02:17] <KXTwo> I followed the binary driver guide
[02:17] <KXTwo> did exactly what youa re supposed to
[02:17] <trevorj> KXTwo: ok, so you followed a guide
[02:17] <trevorj> KXTwo: which guide
[02:17] <KXTwo> I honestly dont even want to mess with the nvida driver anymore
[02:17] <KXTwo> so I just want to figure out why my system is running so sluggish
[02:17] <trevorj> KXTwo: I did the same thing after nvidia screwed me enough times
[02:17] <Ben64> KXTwo: what is sluggish
[02:17] <trevorj> KXTwo: binary blobs are really, really lame
[02:17] <KXTwo> so I have my system back
[02:18] <KXTwo> I open up firefox it takes almost 10 seconds to open
[02:18] <trevorj> escott: did you try dd skip through a pipe?
[02:18] <trevorj> escott: if so, did it work for you and I'm just an idiot?
[02:18] <trevorj> escott: =)
[02:18] <KXTwo> basically anything I open is slow
[02:18] <stiv2k> escott http://pastebin.com/T4KB3NT8
[02:18] <Ben64> KXTwo: could be slow hard drive?
[02:18] <escott> trevorj, never had a reason to do so. why do you need dd for this? why not a simple cat?
[02:18] <KXTwo> vista runs faster than this on here
[02:18] <Anacranom> could be nouveau...
[02:18] <Ben64> KXTwo: try this - "sudo hdparm -tT /dev/sda" and paste result
[02:19] <stiv2k> escott my user is owner
[02:19] <trevorj> escott: can you offset a cat ?
[02:19] <KXTwo> Anacranom: I know thats why I tried the nvidia driver but thast a hell hole
[02:19] <trevorj> escott: ie, skip x bytes?
[02:19] <trevorj> escott: you can't that I'm aware of
[02:19] <escott> trevorj, tail +bytes
[02:19] <trevorj> escott: oh snap
[02:19] <trevorj> escott: but, that doesn't wait until it gets to the end does it?
[02:20] <Ipsilon> How do I center a client run via xinit?
[02:20] <trevorj> escott: I can't fit this into ram, that's why I ask
[02:20] <escott> trevorj, technically something | tail -c +bytes >output
[02:20] <trevorj> Ipsilon: use a window manager
[02:20] <KXTwo> cached readers 744.84 mb/sec
[02:20] <KXTwo> disk reads 43.85
[02:20] <Mischinka> I made a failed attempt to install apache 2.4.2 and now my website is not coming up.. I have an apache,mysql,php site and had apache 2.2.22 previously. Does anyone have an idea of how I can now complete the task to get the site back up and running?
[02:21] <trevorj> escott: I'll test it out real quick
[02:21] <Ipsilon> trevorj, I'm running on a separate "server" (I might be using this word wrong).
[02:21] <Rallias> Mischinka did you try /etc/init.d/httpd restart?
[02:21] <escott> trevorj, it doesnt need to skip to the end. the weird +bytes argument format means start at bytes
[02:21] <Ipsilon> i.e. Ctrl-Alt-F8
[02:21] <trevorj> escott: I understand that, but tailing with lines as a +
[02:21] <trevorj> escott: makes it fit it all into ram first
[02:21] <Mischinka> Rallias: -bash: /etc/init.d/httpd: No such file or directory
[02:21] <escott> stiv2k, thats a crazy stupid bug. it actually did null out your password
[02:21] <trevorj> escott: nasty coding imo
[02:21] <KXTwo> I don't see how it could be the harddrive if vista actually ran faster lol
[02:21] <KXTwo> thats what it came with
[02:21] <Ben64> yeah that speed isn't too bad
[02:22] <escott> stiv2k, is that even a valid shadow file anymore?
[02:22] <Rallias> Mischinka My bad, /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[02:22] <Ben64> i'd still install nvidia driver, but i know you don't like it
[02:22] <KXTwo> Ben64: everyone says its nouvea and that I should sue the nvidia driver but I cant get it to work
[02:22] <KXTwo> Ben64: I would love to but cant get it to work, it breaks my system
[02:22] <Mischinka> Rallias: http://pastebin.com/thWM5kK9
[02:23] <escott> stiv2k, ok. i see "some applications that read the shadow file *may* decide not to permit access"
[02:23] <Rallias> Mischinka The probable change is you used a different MPM. Put a # infront of line 100 in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[02:23] <KXTwo> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[02:23] <Ben64> KXTwo: i would suggest that you install gnome fallback, install ssh server, remove the xorg.conf, and install the nvidia driver
[02:23] <escott> stiv2k, this might do what you want with some modifications to your /etc/pam.conf
[02:23] <KXTwo> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:24] <stiv2k> escott eh?
[02:24] <KXTwo> what is gnomefall back?
[02:24] <stiv2k> escott its ok.. i'm reinstalling with 12.04
[02:25] <escott> stiv2k, you had wanted things to not prompt for the password. so maybe by nulling out the password, and then also modifying pam.conf you could get programs to respect the null'ed password. my guess is that sudo is configured to ignore the fact that your password is nulled
[02:25] <KXTwo> even if it was the nouvea driver would that make say software center run slow, even installing through there is slow
[02:25] <Ben64> KXTwo: gnome fallback is like the old version of gnome
[02:25] <KXTwo> why do you want me to intall that?
[02:26] <Ben64> because unity uses accelerated graphics
[02:26] <KXTwo> so you want me to get rid of unity and use gnome?
[02:26] <Ben64> it might speed up your system even with noveau
[02:26] <Rallias> eurgh stupid VPS with apache2 installed by default...
[02:26] <Mischinka> Rallias: good news it had me comment out a few other lines and the site is up, but now i did apache2 -v and it says im still using apache 2.2.22
[02:26] <Ben64> KXTwo: you'd get the option of what to start when your system comes up
[02:26] <stiv2k> escott well
[02:26] <KXTwo> ok I dont see gnomefall back just regular gnome, is that ok/
[02:27] <stiv2k> escott i won't need to do that anymore, because i think the "locked screen after suspend" bug is fixed
[02:27] <stiv2k> escott in 12.04
[02:27] <Rallias> Mischinka At this point, I'd like to refer you to #ubuntu-server
[02:27] <Ben64> !info gnome-session-fallback
[02:27] <Mischinka> Thanks Rallias!
[02:27] <mosno> for some reason i don't see my Nautilus window in the alt-tab list of GNOME Shell, what gives?
[02:27] <MaynardWaters> how would you guys set up a restore state, where it will automatically load a bunch of specific programs in specific locations on the desktop?
[02:27] <mosno> wait, there it is... that was weird... it took like 10seconds for it to appear
[02:27] <KXTwo> ok I have no idea
[02:28] <KXTwo> so guess Im giving up for now
[02:28] <KXTwo> since I have no idea what you are trying to get across to me
[02:30] <KXTwo> turning into # c all over again lol
[02:32] <Mischinka> Rallias: you wouldnt happen to know why i had to comment it out would you?
[02:33] <Rallias> Mischinka Its most likely you switched MPM's somehow. In all reality, you really aught to look into getting nignx working instead of working on the beast they call apache
[02:33] <trevorj> I'm a fan of both apache and nginx
[02:33] <trevorj> They are not of the same kind of beast
[02:33] <Rallias> For 99.9% of purposes, nginx preforms equal to or better than apache.
[02:34] <Rallias> in my experience.
[02:34] <trevorj> Rallias: I'm not denying that ;)
[02:34] <trevorj> Rallias: mine as well
[02:34] <trevorj> Rallias: but nginx can be too restrictive at times
[02:34] <Rallias> trevorj, all nginx restrictions can be alieviated with perl and fastcgi
[02:34] <trevorj> Rallias: I started using it when it first came out OSS and there was no english docs or site
[02:35] <trevorj> Rallias: Babelfish was horrible at translating code comments btw
[02:35] <Rallias> I started using it when my blog started taking 25-30 seconds to load.
[02:35] <trevorj> Rallias: Glad it worked =)
[02:37] <Rallias> what's the best, low resource http proxy?
[02:38] <athul> Hey, everybody When I try installing Ubuntu 12.04 on my desktop I get an error saying ubi-partman failed with code 141
[02:38] <athul> When i install ubuntu
[02:39] <athul> i get an error code 141
[02:39] <athul> can anyone help me ?
[02:39] <Rallias> athul no need to repeat the question over multiple lines.
[02:39] <trevorj> Rallias: how low resource
[02:39] <trevorj> Rallias: http only?
[02:39] <athul> ohh srry it didnt come in my client
[02:39] <trevorj> Rallias: how many concurrent reqs do you need
[02:39] <malkauns_> why does my shotwell not have a slideshow option?
[02:40] <Rallias> trevorj, Mostly just like 1 request per hour, maybe 2
[02:41] <Rallias> and it needs to fit in 42 mb of ram or less.
[02:42] <Boohbah> Rallias: nginx
[02:42] <Rallias> boohbah forward, not reverse.
[02:50] <OerHeks> athul, sounds like bug 956531 and bug 945027
[02:52] <Guest72970> Hey i tried to install flashplugin. I did sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree then it says it has no candidate what do i do?
[02:52] <Rallias> Guest72970, Try flashplugin-installer
[02:52] <Guest72970> I tried that it says i haev it installed but when i go on youtube
[02:53] <Guest72970> it says im missing
[02:53] <Guest72970> plugins
[02:53] <Rallias> firefox?
[02:53] <Guest72970> yes
[02:53] <Rallias> That's your reason.
[02:53] <Guest72970> What?
[02:53] <anonymous_> hello
[02:53] <Rallias> I'm not sure if its implemented yet, but flash stated they won't support firefox anymore
[02:53] <mongo> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[02:53] <Guest72970> i haev chrome as well
[02:53] <Guest72970> will it work on chrome?
[02:53] <Rallias> should.
[02:54] <Guest72970> k ill try
[02:54] <anonymous_> r u guys using anonymous-os....?
[02:54] <bandit5432> they are not going to have any new versions of flash for linux they will how ever still provide security updates
[02:54] <Guest72970> its the saem for chrome
[02:54] <Guest72970> same*
[02:55] <Guest72970> not working
[02:55] <Rallias> anonymous_, If you are, select a different os FAST, it is infected last I checked.
[02:55] <Guest72970> i just recently updated to 12.04
[02:55] <Guest72970> before that it worked fine
[02:55] <anonymous_> ok thx
[02:55] <mongo> they wont' to flash on firfox on windows RT IIRC
[02:55] <Rallias> try apt-get remove gnash gnash-*
[02:55] <mongo> they have not stated they will drop it on firefox yet
[02:56] <OerHeks> Guest72970, did you restart firefox after install?
[02:56] <Guest72970> yes many times
[02:56] <mongo> Guest72970: are you behind a proxy?
[02:56] <Guest72970> whats the candidate for flashplugin-nonfree
[02:57] <Guest72970> Im not sure
[02:57] <Rallias> Guest72970 Go to adobe's website
[02:57] <mongo> Guest72970: open a terminal and run "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer"
[02:57] <Rallias> They have a working link I believe
[02:57] <cyberpunk> ...
[02:57] <Guest72970> this website here?
[02:57] <Guest72970> http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/
[02:57] <Rallias> Yes
[02:57] <Rallias> Make sure to choose ubuntu 9.10+ (apt)
[02:58] <mongo> Guest72970: don't install it from ther
[02:58] <mongo> install it from the command line, so that you get updates
[02:58] <Rallias> mongo all it does is links to the ubuntu repository
[02:58] <Guest72970> ok
[02:58] <OerHeks> Guest72970, do not take it from the website, you won't get updates.
[02:58] <Rallias> the ubuntu software center
[02:58] <Guest72970>  sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[02:58] <Guest72970> Reading package lists... Done
[02:58] <Guest72970> Building dependency tree
[02:58] <Guest72970> Reading state information... Done
[02:58] <Guest72970> flashplugin-installer is already the newest version.
[02:58] <FloodBot1> Guest72970: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:58] <Guest72970> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
[02:58] <mongo> use pastebin
[02:59] <Rallias> OerHeks mongo you DO get updates because they simply link "apt://whatever" instead of have you download a deb
[02:59] <Rallias> Its been that way since 9.10
[02:59] <APCCPRO> is need for speed world available for Ubuntu?
[02:59] <Guest72970> ok when i do sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[02:59] <mongo> Rallias: it has changed lately, they no longer host the files in apt, thus the change to flashplugin-installer
[02:59] <Guest72970> it say si need a candidate
[03:00] <Guest72970> So how am i going to get flash?
[03:00] <mongo> Guest72970: run dpkg -l | grep flash
[03:00] <mongo> on the flashplugin-intaller does it have an ii?
[03:01] <APCPRO> is need for speed world available for Ubuntu?
[03:01] <Guest72970> yes
[03:01] <Rallias> mongo I don't knwo about you, but "Flash Player 11 for Ubuntu (apt)" looks like it uses deb repositories, which allows for automatic updates.
[03:01] <mongo> Rallias: what is the package name?
[03:02] <mongo> flashplugin-nonfree is now a virtual package that points at flashplugin-installer
[03:02] <Guest72970> Wait are u talking to me?
[03:02] <Guest72970> o
[03:02] <Rallias> I believe its adobe-flashplayer but I could be wrong... I'm on a diff os atm
[03:02] <gr33n7007h> APCPRO, no
[03:02] <OerHeks> Guest72970, try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade first
[03:02] <mongo> Guest72970: adobe-flashplayer does not exist in 12.04
[03:03] <Guest72970> ok its doing something
[03:03] <Guest72970> so what do i do?
[03:03] <APCPRO> gr33n7007h: oh can i run it throgh wine?
[03:03] <mongo> wait for it to do something
[03:03] <Guest72970> how do i get youtube?
[03:03] <Guest72970> you mean the terminal?
[03:03] <Rallias> Guest72970 youtube.com/html5
[03:03] <mongo> Guest72970: wait for that upgrade to finish
[03:03] <Guest72970> oh ok
[03:03] <reflexrg> does anybody here know of an app that detects duplicates of all files on selecting a hard drive or folder for purpose of deleting and organizing files
[03:04] <jrib> reflexrg: fdupes
[03:04] <OerHeks> !info fslint
[03:05] <Guest72970> E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[03:05] <cryosphere> hi everyone I'm having some linking woes: http://ideone.com/1BxE2
[03:05] <gr33n7007h> APCPRO, probably better through virtualbox
[03:05] <Boohbah> reflexrg: find
[03:05] <Guest72970> well the upgrade thing is done
[03:05] <cryosphere> thanks for any advice you can offer
[03:05] <Guest72970> what do i do now?
[03:06] <Guest72970> mongo: What do i do now?
[03:06] <mongo> Guest72970: did it have any errors?
[03:06] <Guest72970> yes
[03:06] <Guest72970> it did
[03:06] <mongo> post them to pastepin
[03:06] <Guest72970> i think
[03:06] <mongo> err pastebin
[03:06] <Guest72970> how?
[03:07] <vfw> !paste Guest72970
[03:07] <APCPRO> gr33n7007h: i don't really understand how to create a disk or something like that
[03:07] <Guest72970> what?
[03:07] <vfw> !paste|  Guest72970
[03:07] <mongo> go up to the edit menu, and click on "select all" then go to copy
[03:07] <vfw> !pastebinit | Guest72970
[03:08] <Guest72970> http://paste.ubuntu.com/990063/
[03:08] <gr33n7007h> APCPRO, have you got a windows cd
[03:09] <APCPRO> gr33n7007h: no
[03:09] <mongo> oh you need to get rid of those PPAs
[03:09] <Guest72970> oh ok
[03:09] <Guest72970> Ho do i do that?
[03:10] <gr33n7007h> APCPRO, linux is no good for gaming
[03:10] <mongo> Guest72970: I have to commute, others here will be able to help you
[03:10] <Guest72970> Who?
[03:11] <Guest72970> Please i need this done now
[03:11] <Guest72970> please
[03:11] <reflexrg> thanks OerHeks and jrib I appreciate your help
[03:12] <Guest72970> can someone help me install flash plugin
[03:12] <Guest72970> http://paste.ubuntu.com/990063/
[03:12] <Guest72970> please look at this
[03:12] <Guest72970> and tell me hat i haev to do
[03:12] <Guest72970> i am on ubuntu 12.04
[03:12] <mongo> Guest72970: you will need to edit /etc/apt/sources.list and remove the lines with "ppa" in them
[03:12] <Guest72970> How do i do that?
[03:12] <Guest72970> can i do it using terminal?
[03:13] <mongo> you will also need to run "dpkg -l | grep flash" and find the unstandard flash packages you have installed
[03:13] <kenny__> n
[03:13] <Danny> hello i would like to install ubuntu along side windows but would like to keep 250 gigs of my 300 gigs on my windows side can i store all of my files on my windows side and just use everything from there ?
[03:13] <SolarisBoy> Danny: you can use the files on your windows partition from ubuntu
[03:13] <OerHeks> Guest72970, go into software sources, and remove at least sevenmachines .. and removing backports is also a good idea
[03:14] <mongo> Guest72970: some time before you installed a 3rd party version of flash, it is probably blocking the install but I have been at work for 14 hours I have to bail.
[03:14] <Guest72970> :(
[03:14] <SolarisBoy> Danny: like music/pictures/etc + you can't run the programs like on windows though
[03:14] <Guest72970> Will you be on tomorow?
[03:15] <cc11rocks> Is there any way someone could help me find Linux (free preferred) equivalents to these Windows software? I am trying to come up with software to convince my school/school district to switch to Linux > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/53278421/NeedConversionToLinuxFromWindows.PNG
[03:15] <Guest72970> Do i go into ubuntu software centre?
[03:16] <reflexrg> also Boohbah
[03:16] <krababbel> Danny: do you have windows 7?
[03:16] <Guest72970> mongo: Do i go into ubuntu software center?
[03:17] <cc11rocks> It is Win XP...I took a screenshot of the software available to students (should be the same as teachers though)
[03:17] <Danny> krababbel: yes
[03:17] <Pyrosquirrell> anybody got a second to help me out? I installed the amd ati drivers and my sound stopped working. I looked for hours on google with no avail. I uninstalled the ati driver and it still continued to not work. Any suggestions? I've seen several people with this problem, but no solution that worked
[03:17] <A2GJeff> does anyone know of a utility that will bind my IP range to my server instead of adding them individually? I'm using 12.04
[03:17] <A2GJeff> I need to add 250+ IPs, and its going to be like 3000 lines of code
[03:17] <A2GJeff> this is for the network interfaces file
[03:17] <Danny> SolarisBoy: but ryhtmbox will work just fine with the stuff and same with movies
[03:18] <krababbel> Danny: you can shrink your windows partition to make room in computer managment in windows
[03:19] <Danny> krababbel: i get that but i wanna keepthe biggest partition i can but access everything and since i cant see ubuntu files on ubuntu i figured i should just make my windows file huge
[03:19] <krababbel> Danny: you want to play movies from the windows partition? best is to mount the partition read only, but your player shouldn't want to write to the directory your movies are in.
[03:20] <krababbel> Danny: what? you can see ubuntu files in windows and vice versa without a problem. writing is risky a bit.
[03:20] <APCPRO> gr33n7007h: i realize that the other day
[03:20] <krababbel> reading is no problem
[03:21] <gr33n7007h> APCPRO, never as never will
[03:22] <APCPRO> gr33n7007h: well i haven't seen any good games on it that look or have the feeling of a windows game
[03:23] <gr33n7007h> APCPRO, You won't
[03:25] <APCPRO> gr33n7007h: yeah i guess not
[03:25] <gr33n7007h> Have you got windows
[03:28] <cc11rocks> Email me at cc11rocks@yahoo.com if you want to help me convert that software
[03:35] <TimStarling> why is this in chinese? https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-help/index.html
[03:35] <reflexrg> because chinese is the new english
[03:36] <reflexrg> and that the chinese government want to rule the world!
[03:36] <reflexrg> ubuntu is part of their secret agenda
[03:36] <reflexrg> just jk... :)
[03:37] <reflexrg> TimStarling I just checked that link its in english for me you probably have your browser language settings setup to pick chinese if available
[03:38] <TimStarling> nope, I double checked with curl from a server
[03:38] <TimStarling> in the US
[03:38] <TimStarling> and I checked my outbound request headers with Live
[03:38] <TimStarling> LiveHTTPHeaders
[03:38] <reflexrg> hmm maybe it is 12.04 bug
[03:38] <reflexrg> I am still using 11.10
[03:38] <reflexrg> having upgraded yet
[03:38] <TimStarling> the server is 10.04
[03:38] <TimStarling> and it's curl
[03:39] <TimStarling> it's not like curl has secret options to convert things to chinese
[03:39] <reflexrg> but for me with firefox on 11.10 when I go to that link it is in english
[03:39] <waxstone> in 12.10 is there a way to clear/reset recently used items(files/aps/etc) ?
[03:39] <TimStarling> is it sending Accept-Language?
[03:39] <reflexrg> no
[03:39] <TimStarling> ah yes, that is curious
[03:40] <TimStarling> if I send "Accept-Language: en", it gives it in english
[03:40] <TimStarling> if I send no AL header, it gives it in chinese
[03:40] <reflexrg> are you connecting via a proxy or using tor to connect to the website?
[03:40] <reflexrg> sometimes that can change the language defualts
[03:40] <TimStarling> no I'm not using a proxy
[03:40] <reflexrg> cause the webpage sees you are connecting from germany or china ec....
[03:41] <reflexrg> some sites do this
[03:41] <TimStarling> using geolocation to select page language, with no way to override, is stupid if that's what it's doing
[03:41] <TimStarling> if I travel to Germany it doesn't mean I want the web in german
[03:42] <TimStarling> anyway if it is geolocation, the database must be very broken, or there is a bug in the relevant code
[03:42] <TimStarling> because the server IP address I am using has been in the US since forever
[03:42] <reflexrg> you can usually over ride it TimStarling in the sites settings
[03:43] <pacific-blue> #distrowatch
[03:43] <Zyclops> is it possible to add groups to groups?
[03:43] <TimStarling> it's also chinese from another server
[03:43] <Zyclops> i.e. all the memembers  of this group are in this group?
[03:44] <TimStarling> let's try from europe
[03:44] <trevorj> Rallias: sorry, I got side tracked
[03:44] <reflexrg> sorry TimStarling that is far as I know on the subject you'll have to do research and make do with what I have told you thus far because I don't have any further experience with anything beyond that information on that subject
[03:44] <trevorj> Rallias: try haproxy
[03:44] <trevorj> Rallias: really, really light ;)
[03:45] <trevorj> Rallias: oh, forward
[03:45] <waxstone> in 12.10 is there a way to clear/reset recently used items(files/aps/etc) ?
[03:45] <trevorj> Rallias: polipo
[03:45] <trevorj> Rallias: I an personally a huge fan of squid however
[03:46] <trevorj> Rallias: s/an/am/
[03:46] <jrib> waxstone: 12.10 hasn't been released
[03:46] <KXTwo> ok dumb question time
[03:46] <TimStarling> ok, from a server in the netherlands, also chinese
[03:46] <waxstone> sry 12.04
[03:46] <KXTwo> I just downloaded a linux 64 bit driver from nvidia
[03:46] <KXTwo> no intstructions
[03:46] <KXTwo> hwo do I install that?
[03:47] <waxstone> jrib, 12.04 i mean
[03:47] <TimStarling> I guess the whole world gets chinese unless their browser is configured to send Accept-Language
[03:47] <waxstone> KXTwo,  sudo sh filename.run
[03:47] <hash> so i have a computer tht wont let me install antix its giving me a bunch of errors about the drive not existing it has debian installed could i just run sudo mkfs.ext3 then install it
[03:48] <KXTwo> ahh never heard of sh, thanks!
[03:49] <waxstone> KXTwo, no problem ;)
[03:49] <wolfcore> KXTwo: sh means the sh shell
[03:49] <wolfcore> KXTwo: that command means to run filename.run with the sh shell using sudo
[03:49] <KXTwo> ok and another dumb question
[03:49] <KXTwo> I guess X has to be not running to do this
[03:49] <KXTwo> how do I close X?
[03:49] <razvan86> is android the same on all android mobiles ?
[03:50] <wolfcore> no
[03:50] <wolfcore> each provider adds branding and useless crap (like the sprint nfl app)
[03:50] <razvan86> what splits are there? and which facilitate better the integration of contacts from all social hubs unto the gsm contact agenda ?
[03:51] <razvan86> a ...
[03:51] <waxstone> I normally CTRL+ALT+1 then for 12.04 type sudo service lightdm stop
[03:51] <waxstone> KXTwo, ^^
[03:51] <ind3ntedChar> hey all...anyone know how to fix java applet missing in chrome ?
[03:51] <bohemian9485> waxstone: isn't that CTRL+ALT+F1?
[03:52] <Logan_> ind3ntedChar: sudo apt-get install icedtea-7-plugin
[03:52] <waxstone> bohemian9485, KXTwo  you are correct Ctrl+ALt+F1
[03:53] <KXTwo> ok for more noob questions
[03:53] <KXTwo> I knew how to switch to a console just wasnt sure how to stop x
[03:53] <waxstone> KXTwo, type sudo service lightdm start after driver installs
[03:53] <KXTwo> what is lightdm?
[03:54] <bohemian9485> KXTwo: lightdm is the default desktop manager used by 12.04
[03:54] <escott> KXTwo, the new display manager
[03:54] <KXTwo> ok now we are learning
[03:54] <KXTwo> now I am reading the howto on installing this driver
[03:54] <tamaros> is there a way to remove only specific users form the login list (i.e. not interested in setting `greeter-hide-users=true` in lightdm.conf)?
[03:54] <KXTwo> crap i setn myself the wrong link
[03:54] <TimStarling> I filed a bug
[03:55] <waxstone> Anyone know in 12.04 if there a way to clear/reset recently used items(files/aps/etc) ?
[03:55] <KXTwo> it wasnt me to disable nouveau and make it so my system will boot to a vga console?
[03:55] <ind3ntedChar> Logan_, cool...do I need to add a specific repository...its not finding it in what i have now
[03:55] <jrib> tamaros: does /etc/lightdm/users.conf not do what you want?
[03:56] <escott> jrib, its usually ignored in favor of the extremely well documented AccountsService daemon
[03:56] <tamaros> jrib: in my googling I didn't come across mention of it.  What can I do with it to hide users?
[03:57] <jrib> tamaros: read it, but it mentions accountsservice which escott says is what's used by default
[03:57] <Logan_> ind3ntedChar: Which version of Ubuntu are you running?
[03:57] <reflexrg> where is there an app to list all install GUI graphical applications only?
[03:57] <ind3ntedChar> 10.04...oldie but goodie :-)
[03:58] <bohemian9485> waxstone: i'm using gnome-classic on my 12.04 box and it has a clear recent documents on the menu, have not used unity much so don't know how to do it there
[03:58] <Logan_> ind3ntedChar: Ah, that explains it. Sec.
[03:58] <reflexrg> to save this list is most important
[03:59] <Logan_> ind3ntedChar: Do you already have Sun Java installed?
[03:59] <Logan_> ind3ntedChar: If not, then run:
[03:59] <malkauns_> waxstone, too much porn?
[03:59] <Logan_> ind3ntedChar: sudo apt-get install icedtea6-plugin
[04:00] <ind3ntedChar> Logan_, yea I have sun java1.6 installed
[04:00] <ind3ntedChar> let me try the second one
[04:00] <waxstone> malkauns_, i plead the 5th
[04:01] <malkauns_> LOL
[04:01] <Logan_> ind3ntedChar: I'd remove Sun Java before running that command.
[04:01] <KXTwo> ok more noob questions
[04:01] <jrib> tamaros: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/857651 may be related
[04:01] <KXTwo> how do I get my system to boot into console and not start X?
[04:01] <Logan_> ind3ntedChar: Although you can do it afterward, I guess.
[04:02] <waxstone> KXTwo, when booting up pres tab or maybe Esc you will enter grub menu
[04:02] <KXTwo> shit enters grub menu
[04:02] <KXTwo> but grub has no option for straight to console
[04:02] <KXTwo> unless I go into recovery mode
[04:03] <waxstone> KXTwo, yes recovery mode
[04:03] <Logan_> KXTwo: set the variable GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT to "text" in the file /etc/default/grub and run sudo update-grub
[04:03] <Logan_> KXTwo: recovery mode works, too, on a temporary basis
[04:03] <KXTwo> waxstone: I do not wish to do recovery mode because when I did, I could do nothing as it was listed as a read o nly file system
[04:03] <waxstone> KXTwo,  true or press E to edit kernel line adding text
[04:03] <ind3ntedChar> Logan_, cool...thanks boss
[04:04] <KXTwo> Logan_: I only need to do this long enough to isntall a driver
[04:04] <Logan_> ind3ntedChar: No problem. Working now?
[04:04] <KXTwo> Logan_: but last time I ran recovery mode and dropped to shell, i could do nothing even with sudo.
[04:04] <waxstone> KXTwo, at grub menu press E to edit kernal line
[04:04] <waxstone> add the word --->text<--- near quiet nomodeset etc
[04:04] <ind3ntedChar> yea...i just need to remove the old java
[04:05] <waxstone> maybe no splash you will see
[04:05] <KXTwo> god i hope this works
[04:06] <stiv2k> um
[04:06] <KXTwo> ok where do I add 'text'?  I dont see
[04:06] <stiv2k> why is my second display turning off when i close the laptop lid
[04:06] <stiv2k> :(
[04:06] <karthick87> How to apply domain wallpapers in all linux systems ?
[04:06] <waxstone> KXTwo,  did you press e?
[04:06] <KXTwo> yes
[04:06] <KXTwo> the cloest line is
[04:07] <KXTwo> quiet splash $vt_handoff
[04:07] <MrPockets> So
[04:07] <MrPockets> I'm going over seas
[04:07] <waxstone> make it quiet splash text $vt_handoff
[04:07] <MrPockets> I'd like to DBAN my laptop and put a fresh install down before i leave
[04:07] <dr_willis> try  noquiet nosplash text
[04:07] <MrPockets> but i also wanna image it before i leave, so i can restoer when i get back
[04:07] <MrPockets> would CloneZilla work well enough with Ubuntu?
[04:08] <KXTwo> was that edit perm or just this boot?
[04:08] <jahon> Hey everyone
[04:08] <dr_willis> grub menu edits are one time
[04:08] <dr_willis> not perm. editing the /etc/ files is perm'
[04:09] <IsmAvatar> Hey guys. Anyone know why 7z is not included in Ubuntu by default?
[04:09] <KXTwo> learnign so freaking much
[04:09] <dr_willis> IsmAvatar:  disk space lim its
[04:09] <jahon> How can I set a secondary internet connection (4g usb device) to turn on when the primary connection is disconnected?
[04:09] <KXTwo> ive gone through 4 groups of people ive asked for help
[04:09] <tamaros> jrib: seems to be the answer i'm looking for if not the answer I wanted, thanks for the help
[04:09] <IsmAvatar> dr_willis: fair enough. Just checking that there wasn't some sort of philosophical reasoning
[04:09] <wolfcore> IsmAvatar: why would you need that? there's gzip, tar, etc
[04:10] <jahon> I'm looking to have the backup connection kick in automatically when the main connection goes down...
[04:10] <KXTwo> ok should I be concerned
[04:10] <KXTwo> it says dstro provded pre-install script failed, continue installation anyway?
[04:10] <IsmAvatar> wolfcore: one of my developers insists on distributing stuff in 7z because it's so small. I wasn't sure if I should just install 7z and bear it, or yell at him to use another format.
[04:11] <dr_willis> distributr to who?
[04:11] <dr_willis> distribute what.. ;)
[04:11] <jahon> anyone have any ideas?
[04:11] <stiv2k> how come my screen is blanking when i close the lid even though its set to do nothing in power settings???
[04:11] <IsmAvatar> dr_willis: primarily other developers, and distributing binaries required to make our project runnable from a fresh repository checkout
[04:12] <KXTwo> your screen still shuts off
[04:12] <KXTwo> hey I know one!
[04:12] <KXTwo> only if you have an external monitor does it stay on
[04:12] <dr_willis> on a unix/linux systems the use of 7z would be.. odd...
[04:12] <KXTwo> do nothing means, dont suspend or hibernate etc
[04:12] <stiv2k> KXTwo no the external one shuts off too
[04:12] <jahon> ugh. this channel fails
[04:12] <karthick87> How to apply domain wallpapers in all linux systems ?
[04:12] <IsmAvatar> dr_willis: it's cross platform
[04:12] <KXTwo> Stivk aww I thought I was being helpful
[04:12] <KXTwo> stiv2k: try shutting off the primary monitor first, THEN shuting the lid?
[04:13] <uncu> a
[04:13] <KXTwo> stiv2k: it will be a function combo with one of the f keys
[04:14] <WhinesOnIRC> Holy God, this is a huge channel.
[04:14] <KXTwo> ok I officialy give up
[04:14] <WhinesOnIRC> This is the biggest channel I've ever seen on a server, seriously.
[04:14] <KXTwo> even doing the nvidia install this way
[04:14] <KXTwo> it still breaks my system
[04:14] <dr_willis> WhinesOnIRC:  actually its a slow day
[04:14] <stiv2k> KXTwo ubuntu 12.04 is very buggy
[04:15] <WhinesOnIRC> :|
[04:15] <KXTwo> stiv2k: I have tried everything
[04:15] <WhinesOnIRC> Geez.
[04:15] <dr_willis> WhinesOnIRC:  seen 3000+ in here befor
[04:15] <KXTwo> I cannot get the nvidia driver to work
[04:15] <KXTwo> as soon as I install it
[04:15] <WhinesOnIRC> I didn't realize a channel could hold that many people.
[04:15] <KXTwo> my external montitor stops working
[04:15] <KXTwo> oh but wait!
[04:15] <dr_willis> KXTwo:  you enqbled twinview from the nvidia-settimgs tool?
[04:15] <KXTwo> somethign different this time
[04:17] <KXTwo> dr_willis: ok before when I had done this, mys ystem wouldnt even boot all the way, this time it did, so I am in the displays tab and it shows laptop it doesnt show my external monitor?
[04:17] <dr_willis> KXTwo:  if using nvidia drivers. use the nvidia-settings tool to configure the monitors
[04:19] <KXTwo> im there but having difficulty seeing what to change
[04:19] <dr_willis> i normally enable twinview, move monitors around, save changes to xorg.conf then reboot
[04:20] <KXTwo> im playing with it but still nothing
[04:20] <KXTwo> the exteranl monitor was disabled but I enabled it and hit apply
[04:21] <dr_willis> with laptops you may  need to play with the monitor toggle fn keys
[04:21] <dr_willis> i normally use desktop machines
[04:21] <KXTwo> I didnt ahve to before
[04:21] <KXTwo> the pro lem is
[04:21] <KXTwo> the monitor is broken on the laptop
[04:21] <KXTwo> and its a fucking nightmare to make it visible
[04:21] <FloodBot1> KXTwo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:22] <bazhang> KXTwo, no cursing here
[04:23] <KXTwo> gentelmen
[04:23] <KXTwo> I think I finally have it!
[04:24] <KXTwo> omg I finally have it!
[04:24] <KXTwo> ive been in here for two days
[04:24] <KXTwo> tryin to get this
[04:25] <dr_willis> normallytakes me  2 min. on a new install...'
[04:26] <dr_willis> bbl
[04:26] <stiv2k> also i can't get lirc to work in 12.04 or 11.10
[04:26] <stiv2k> why? it should work out of the box
[04:26] <KXTwo> wow that was kind of a dick move
[04:27] <Aeryndaar> Hey guys, is there still a minimize-all-window quick key?
[04:28] <Aeryndaar> I just got 12.04
[04:28] <Aeryndaar> I heard from before it was SUPER+D
[04:28] <bazhang> Aeryndaar, in unity-2d there is iirc
[04:29] <Derpametric> Huh. I guess this channel WAS on Freenode.
[04:29] <KXTwo> ok so for no reason whatsoever x restarted on me
[04:30] <KXTwo> and I got a system problem
[04:30] <KXTwo> wtf, why would my system not have enough free memory
[04:31] <KXTwo> ok im seriously about to give up on ubuntu
[04:31] <KXTwo> I just had this working now it doesnt want to
[04:31] <Aeryndaar> bazhang: I am in Unity-2d, Super+D doesn't work.
[04:32] <bazhang> Aeryndaar, clicking the workspaces icon did that if I recall correctly, unless I am misunderstanding what you wish to accomplish
[04:32] <KXTwo> he wants a shortcut to minimize all windows
[04:32] <KXTwo> it used to be super d
[04:32] <KXTwo> same as super m on windows
[04:33] <KXTwo> I noticed atl f10 doesnt do the maximize terminal window either
[04:33] <yhy> hlep,     can`t connect to MySQL server on "host_name" ?
[04:33] <pROTOkom> Hello
[04:34] <selig5> Aeryndaar: try ctrl+alt 0
[04:35] <pROTOkom> ubuntu is pretty impressive from the looks of things.  Will convert soon.
[04:35] <Aeryndaar> bazhang & selig5: I'm trying to do what WindowsLogoKey + D does in Win7
[04:35] <Aeryndaar> Minimize all windows
[04:36] <Aeryndaar> Basically showing desktop
[04:36] <Aeryndaar> Or minimize-all, similarly works too
[04:36] <Synackal> anybody here using lunbuntu?
[04:36] <Synackal> or xubuntu
[04:36] <selig5> Aeryndaar: try ctrl+alt+0 (zero on the number pad)
[04:36] <Synackal> omnibus, multipass
[04:37] <Aeryndaar> Clicking on the Workspace button brings me to Desktop Wall; Ctrl+Alt+0(numpad) minimizes ONE window
[04:37] <Aeryndaar> I guess there isn't that shortcut :|
[04:37] <Aeryndaar> in 12.04?
[04:38] <Synackal> does anybody know why utorrent is not available from inside the softeware center and i have to get it myself and install it?
[04:38] <bazhang> https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/763230 Aeryndaar is it this? there is a ppa that fixes the issue
[04:38] <KXTwo> Aeryndaar: I dont remember how but youc an map your own keys
[04:39] <JP_Franks> Anyone know what port besides 22 openSSH could need? I can connect if I DMZ the IP but just allowing port 22 into the machine doesn't work.
[04:40] <Synackal> no other port should be needed JP_Franks
[04:40] <Synackal> did you look into passive versus active issues?
[04:41] <JP_Franks> You mean yell at it?
[04:41] <JP_Franks> Yup!
[04:41] <selig5> Aeryndaar: on Unity 3d alt+tab offers the desktop as one of the choices
[04:41] <Aeryndaar> bazhang: That's not really exactly what I'm looking for, but thanks.
[04:42] <Aeryndaar> KXTwo: Yeah, in System Settings/Keyboard, I think, but I don't really see minimize-all-windows (I mean for all programs, or basically show desktop) as an option
[04:42] <Synackal> JP_Franks something is wrong with your port forwarding, is this NAT and what are you using to make a DMZ, your router?
[04:42] <Aeryndaar> Selig5: I got Unity-2d. Is there a way to 'upgrade' to unity 3d?
[04:42] <Synackal> make sure you local firewall is allowing port 22
[04:43] <Aeryndaar> Sorry guys, I just got this new laptop 3 days ago. Very new to Ubuntu, but loving it so far.
[04:43] <Synackal> ideally only to certain subnets of course
[04:43] <selig5> Aeryndaar: you might have to get a better video card...
[04:43] <bazhang> http://iloveubuntu.net/new-keyboard-shortcuts-landed-precise-pangolin  Aeryndaar this then?
[04:43] <JP_Franks> syn: Yeah it the router.. the sshd isn't doing anything to trigger any NAT rules.. but opening the port in this manner works for all other things (RDP, Web, Minecraft, etc.. :) )
[04:44] <Aeryndaar> selig5: I have nVIDIA GeForce 540M? Wouldn't say that's crap, is it? Of course not video-game grade, but still :|
[04:44] <Synackal> so if you nc or telnet to the WAN IP on port 22, what happens?
[04:44] <Synackal> is it shown as closed?
[04:45] <Synackal> try going to grc.com shieldsup and see if port 22 shows as open on the WAN IP
[04:45] <JP_Franks> YEah putty gets a quick hand slap.. Then I DMZ the whole IP and I'm in..
[04:45] <Synackal> i see
[04:45] <Aeryndaar> bazhang: Yes, the Control+Super+D is the exact thing I wanted, but doesn't work O_O
[04:45] <JP_Franks> So I was guessing it's some sort of discovery port I'd never heard of?
[04:45] <Aeryndaar> bazhang: OH nevermind, I got it.
[04:45] <Aeryndaar> libreoffice was loading
[04:46] <selig5> Aeryndaar: maybe you need the proprietary drivers for that card?
[04:46] <Synackal> afaik there are no other ports needed for SSH, i have set it up dozens of times and port 22 is all you need for SSH and SFTP
[04:46] <Synackal> i would want to see what is happening with that router
[04:46] <Synackal> interesting
[04:46] <Aeryndaar> bazhang: Thanks a lot :)
[04:47] <Synackal> anybody else have a suggestion for JP_Franks ?
[04:47] <Aeryndaar> selig5: How do I do that? (I admit I'm noob :|)
[04:47] <Synackal> JP_Franks - make sure your router does not have its own SSH port open?
[04:47] <iceroot> JP_Franks: nmap -p 22 hostname
[04:48] <iceroot> JP_Franks: you only need port 22 for ssh, sftp, scp
[04:48] <Synackal> scp = sftp afaik, its all part of openssh but yea, that should work, dmz should allow port 22 on the DMZ IP
[04:48] <Synackal> must be missing something
[04:49] <selig5> Aeryndaar: not sure, look at the nVidia website for linux drivers for that card?
[04:49] <Aeryndaar> selig5: f^^k, I bet they don't have one :(
[04:49] <Aeryndaar> I'll check
[04:49] <xdark> hello iceroot i am new here sup
[04:50] <sary> JP_Franks: This might by of help ,https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Configuring
[04:50] <kkrauss> anyone know what this is all about:
[04:50] <Aeryndaar> Welcome, xdark
[04:50] <kkrauss> none of the selected modes were compatible with the possible modes:
[04:50] <kkrauss> Trying modes for CRTC 434
[04:50] <kkrauss> CRTC 434: trying mode 1280x1024@50Hz with output at 1440x900@50Hz (pass 0)
[04:50] <kkrauss> CRTC 434: trying mode 1280x1024@50Hz with output at 1440x900@50Hz (pass 1)
[04:50] <FloodBot1> kkrauss: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:50] <sary> Aeryndaar: What chipset you are using !
[04:51] <sary> Aeryndaar: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Video
[04:52] <xdark> sup all ubuntu chat users whats the info on ubuntu 12.04 aerymdaar
[04:53] <Aeryndaar> I'll take a look at that link first.
[04:53] <xdark> wiindows 7 who
[04:54] <Aeryndaar> What you mean what's the info?
[04:54] <Aeryndaar> Precise Pangolin?
[04:54] <xdark> yes is it better than 11.10 lts
[04:54] <Aeryndaar> @sary: What you mean chipset?
[04:54] <iceroot> xdark: 11.10 is not an lts release
[04:54] <iceroot> !lts | xdark
[04:55] <selig5> Aeryndaar: found this: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-amd64-275.19-driver.html
[04:55] <Aeryndaar> @xdark: there's no LTS 11.10. That comes every 3 years I think?
[04:55] <xdark> yes
[04:55] <iceroot> Aeryndaar: every 2
[04:55] <Aeryndaar> @xdark: I never used 11.10. I am a VERY NEW Ubuntu user: 3 days!
[04:55] <Aeryndaar> @iceroot, thanks.
[04:55] <xdark> cool need to upgrade then
[04:55] <Aeryndaar> @selig5: All right, thanks man. I'll take a look at that.
[04:56] <Aeryndaar> @xdark: in ter, type sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:56] <selig5> that was for 54 bit
[04:56] <xdark> which release are you using
[04:56] <selig5> 64
[04:56] <gr33n7007h> is there a channel for food recepies
[04:56] <Aeryndaar> I am using 64bit
[04:57] <Aeryndaar> Man, I love you guys. This is the most helpful channel I've ever been to.
[04:57] <xdark> do you guys like windows 7
[04:57] <iceroot> !ot | xdark
[04:58] <Aeryndaar> xdark: Generally I used Win7 before, but I switched to Ubuntu for reasons
[04:58] <xdark> just joking
[04:58] <Aeryndaar> It's much more powerful
[04:58] <Aeryndaar> Especially the terminal, which I'm RTFM a lot recently
[04:58] <xdark> ya ubuntu is great
[04:58] <bazhang> xdark, actual support question?
[04:58] <Aeryndaar> selig5: thanks, I'm downloading this
[04:58] <selig5> Aeryndaar: no prob
[04:59] <bazhang> xdark, this is NOT The chat channel. try #ubuntu-offtopic for that
[05:00] <Aeryndaar> selig5: So I just finished downloading it (the .run file)
[05:00] <Aeryndaar> Double-clicked it to Open and run
[05:00] <Aeryndaar> I got a white screen...
[05:00] <xdark> how do you do penetration testing with ubuntu
[05:00] <ahmedwaleedelkot> HI
[05:00] <mc1> Hello!
[05:00] <ahmedwaleedelkot> WHAT PENETRATION TESTING ?
[05:01] <ahmedwaleedelkot> ?
[05:01] <mc1> everybody
[05:01] <mc1> I'd like to ask a tech question regarding upgrading
[05:01] <ahmedwaleedelkot> ok
[05:01] <ahmedwaleedelkot> ask mc1
[05:01] <ahmedwaleedelkot> ?
[05:02] <gr33n7007h> xdark, years of experience need there son
[05:02] <mc1> When I try to upgrade mi Ubuntu version I get this message: E: Unable to stat the mount point /media/cdrom/ - stat (2: No such
[05:02] <mc1> file or directory)
[05:02] <mc1> E: Unable to stat the mount point /media/cdrom/ - stat (2: No such
[05:02] <mc1> file or directory)
[05:02] <mc1> E: Failed to mount the cdrom.
[05:02] <FloodBot1> mc1: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:03] <xdark> is there a super command for everything
[05:03] <Aeryndaar> mc1, try type 'sudo apt-get upgrade' in terminal
[05:03] <Aeryndaar> that's upgrade
[05:03] <KXTwo> what is plymouth, I kep getting errors from plymouth
[05:03] <Aeryndaar> selig5: Okay, so do you know what's up with the white screen? I'll upload an image to imgur.com
[05:04] <xdark> how about android on desktop ubuntu tv how to install them
[05:04] <mc1> I've already tried that command
[05:04] <Aeryndaar> selig5: http://i.imgur.com/7bgd9.png this is what I'm getting (screenshot)
[05:04] <Aeryndaar> Just nothing happening.
[05:05] <mc1> I've typed: sudo dpkg --configure -a  ----- and then: sudo apt-get install -f
[05:06] <xdark> who is using a classic release of ubuntu
[05:06] <bazhang> xdark, please no polls here
[05:06] <selig5> Aeryndaar: that is gedit, not a white screen
[05:06] <bazhang> xdark, do you have an actual support question
[05:07] <Mischinka> on a ubuntu install i dont need http proxy information do i?
[05:07] <gridbag> which XServer does ubuntu use? Where is the source code for that?
[05:07] <xdark> yes how do you stream a podcast from the web
[05:07] <Derpametric> Uhh... I'm a Wubi installer using Ubuntu for the first time. How do I install ZSNES on said install?
[05:07] <Aeryndaar> selig5: What am I suppose to do with that?
[05:08] <bazhang> Derpametric, find the zsnes package and install it
[05:08] <KXTwo> OH GUESS WHAT
[05:08] <KXTwo> oops
[05:08] <Aeryndaar> Yeah I know nothing about these thangs :(
[05:08] <KXTwo> now I have the same problem, when I close my lid the external monitor turns off lol
[05:08] <KXTwo> aqnd despite all this effort to get my nvidia driving working, the system still runs slow
[05:09] <selig5> Aeryndaar: right click the driver file and mark it as executable and then try to run it, I'm not an expert myself...
[05:10] <Derpametric> Bazhang : When I searched for it in the Software Catalog, it gives me a button for "More Info", then it gives me a "This page does not exist" error.
[05:10] <KXTwo> days ive been working on this, I just cant get this thikng to run right :(
[05:10] <KXTwo> maybe its time to go to mint
[05:10] <Derpametric> I have the tar.gz file downloaded from the sourceforge page, but I have no idea what to do with it.
[05:10] <bazhang> Derpametric, let me search for the proper package name. best to install from ubuntu sources. just a moment
[05:11] <xangua> !info zsnes | Derpametric
[05:11] <Derpametric> I'll be right back, I'll reboot in Linux.
[05:11] <bazhang> Derpametric, you dont want to install from some 3rd party source like that
[05:12] <Aeryndaar> selig5: How do I do that :|  There isn't such option in the right-click menu
[05:13] <KXTwo> whoa
[05:13] <KXTwo> so I started up system monitor
[05:13] <KXTwo> and im using 70 percent of my memory
[05:13] <KXTwo> and it says swap not available
[05:13] <KXTwo> whats that all about?
[05:13] <Mischinka> When installing a ubuntu server should i have automatic updates or canonical landscape service or none?
[05:14] <KXTwo> now my cpu usage is high too and Im not running anyhting
[05:15] <bazhang> Mischinka, you may wish to ask that in #ubuntu-server if you dont get a response here
[05:15] <Mischinka> rogerroger
[05:15] <bazhang> KXTwo, open a terminal and type top to see what is using up resources
[05:16] <KXTwo> compiz seems to be using the most memory and processor
[05:16] <KXTwo> then firefox
[05:16] <KXTwo> 104 megs for firefox jeez
[05:16] <bazhang> KXTwo, how much ram does your machine have
[05:17] <KXTwo> it has 1 gig but fore some reason says I have 756
[05:17] <KXTwo> 742.6 in system monitor
[05:17] <KXTwo> and for some reason swap is not available
[05:17] <KXTwo> I have a few gig swap partition
[05:17] <selig5> Aeryndaar: right click, then choose 'Permissions', there is an option to 'Allow executing file as program': check that box.
[05:18] <Aeryndaar> selig5: Thanks!
[05:19] <selig5> Aeryndaar: good luck
[05:19] <mongo> any opinions on what to replace a echo -n 0x00043fff > /sys/kernel/debug/ieee80211/phy0/iwlwifi/debug/debug_level
[05:19] <mongo> eek sorry bad paste
[05:19] <indian> any one using 12.04
[05:19] <KXTwo> I just dont understand why this thing is running like this, every problem I fix creates a new one
[05:19] <_jon180_> how do i update a package from -proposed ?
[05:19] <indian> I have blank screen when I try to switch to console mode
[05:20] <Aeryndaar> selig5: http://i.imgur.com/zsbI5.png (screenshot) So is that what it should look like?
[05:20] <mongo> KXTwo: your video card uses some of the system ram
[05:21] <mongo> KXTwo: adding more ram would help a lot
[05:22] <KXTwo> well I am well above the system requirements to run 12.04, should I use an older version?
[05:22] <KXTwo> I also only set my video card to use 64megs of my system ram
[05:22] <KXTwo> and have no idea why my swap partition is not available
[05:23] <mongo> try swapon /path/to/swap
[05:24] <_xan_> anyone here have experience getting blu-ray support working?  I'm trying to do it using VLC, but not having a lot of success.
[05:24] <mongo> KXTwo: what kind of laptop?  also not when you look at the system monitor some ram will be taken up by cache and buffers, that is still free for programs linux is just using it to cache files etc...
[05:24] <KXTwo> acer 9300
[05:24] <KXTwo> I figure dout the swap problem
[05:24] <KXTwo> I changed it
[05:24] <KXTwo> and fstab isnt pointing to the rightp lace
[05:24] <_jon180_> how do i update nvidia driver to use the version in precise-proposed?
[05:24] <windbuntu> can my intel onboard graphics be changed so that i can give ubuntu even more ram?
[05:24] <KXTwo> I take it swapon will fix that
[05:25] <mongo> that machine has "NVIDIA® GeForce® Go 6100 integrated graphics with up to 128 MB of shared system memory
[05:25] <mongo> thus your ~176M of ram
[05:25] <mongo> err 756
[05:25] <KXTwo> actually up 284
[05:25] <KXTwo> 384
[05:25] <_xan_> !bluray
[05:25] <JP_Franks> So the 'firewall' problem is that I was in the ruleset for services and it doesn't say "default IP" it just gives you an ip. So theres another panel you can add the allow rule and pick the 'service' I made.. :P I R DUM
[05:26] <windbuntu> can i make it so more system ram is given to video/graphics i meant?
[05:26] <KXTwo> mongo: in my bios there is an option that I thought reduced the amount of ram it used
[05:26] <visored> I have an ubuntu computer I used as a media server, with an ntfs drived shared via samba. Sometimes, randomly, all computers connecting to it are really slow for some reason.
[05:27] <visored> also when I connect to it with RDP, it is slow
[05:27] <KXTwo> mongo: frame buffer size
[05:27] <visored> nothing I do fixes it, not even restarting
[05:27] <visored> but if i leave it alone it seems to go away within a few hours
[05:27] <KXTwo> mongo: I just turned it from 256 to 64
[05:28] <mongo> KXTwo: that often doesn't change anything, that may just be the apature size
[05:29] <KXTwo> my laptop says its up to 384 which is kind of weird
[05:29] <visored> nvm
[05:29] <KXTwo> mongo: yah after I changed it I now have 930 megs
[05:29] <KXTwo> mongo: after reboot I lost my swap partition again though, swapon wasnt perm?
[05:31] <_xan_> anyone got bluray working under Ubuntu?
[05:31] <Mike9863> How can I set a window to minimize by a mouse button press on the title bar?
[05:31] <mongo> KXTwo: no make sure it is pointed to the right place in /etc/fstab
[05:32] <Aeryndaar> Mike9863: Minimize one window or minimize all window?
[05:32] <Aeryndaar> s
[05:33] <Mike9863> Aeryndaar: I want to minimize the window that had the mouse button applied on its title bar
[05:34] <KXTwo> mongo: I think I fixed that, I am rebooting now.  the system just seems to be way sower than it should be.  Should I just use an older version of ubuntu?
[05:34] <mongo> KXTwo: try unity 2d
[05:35] <KXTwo> mongo: why?  Whats the difference?
[05:35] <KXTwo> mongo: I kind fo dont like unity so far, I miss gnome lol, but if youw ant me to use unity 2d I honestly dont know how or whats the difference
[05:35] <mongo> KXTwo: one uses less graphics, it may be quicker
[05:35] <mongo> you could try the mate UI
[05:35] <Aeryndaar> Mike9863, doesn't it already have it?
[05:36] <Aeryndaar> Next to the X and the maximize?
[05:36] <Aeryndaar> Should be in top-left corner? It only shows up when you put your mouse there...
[05:36] <KXTwo> mongo: how do I switch to it?  and will it effect all the driver fussing I did with my nvidia card?  after  fresh reboot my swap file works now, and Im using about 500 megs of memory does that sound right?
[05:36] <Mike9863> Aeryndaar: I don't want a button. I want to be able to minimize it with the click of a mouse anywhere on the title bar.
[05:36] <Aeryndaar> That little hyphen button, is that what you want?
[05:36] <Aeryndaar> Oh
[05:37] <mongo> KXTwo: google mint linux, they have simple instructions
[05:37] <Aeryndaar> Never done that before, sorry :(
[05:37] <mongo> KXTwo: or just log out and select unity 2d
[05:37] <mongo> to test it out
[05:37] <KXTwo> mongo: mint is what is on my main laptop
[05:37] <Mike9863> It's already set to do it with Button 2, however I'd rather scroll than middle click
[05:37] <KXTwo> mongo: is there a huge difference in the quality of the graphics?
[05:38] <KXTwo> also when I log out I do not see an option to use unity 2d
[05:38] <KXTwo> mongo:  found it
[05:39] <KXTwo> mongo: dude this is WAY faster but using about the same memory, whats the deal?
[05:39] <mongo> KXTwo: unity 3d expects quit a bit of hardware accelerated graphics
[05:39] <mongo> quite even
[05:40] <KXTwo> mongo: thank you thank you so much, there are so many knowledeable people here but you are the first to realize that was my problem
[05:40] <KXTwo> mongo: alt tab is working properly now
[05:40] <KXTwo> mongo: i might just cry
[05:40] <KXTwo> mongo: is 64 megs enough for unity 2d or shoudl I up that a little bit on the gpu?
[05:41] <calmpitbull> how come i cant get new 2.8 gimp
[05:41] <mongo> KXTwo: for 2D you should be fine
[05:41] <xangua> !latest | calmpitbull
[05:42] <xangua> there are very few exceptions like firefox
[05:42] <calmpitbull> ubottu: thx
[05:42] <calmpitbull> ubottu: no you are not
[05:42] <calmpitbull> ubottu: but u are :)
[05:43] <KXTwo> mongo: is there anything else I can do to get this to run more efficiently other than dropping a gui all together.  Is unity 2d where I should stay at?  Also is there a way to make it default to unity 2d?
[05:43] <calmpitbull> KXTwo: u can do that in login screen
[05:44] <KXTwo> calmpitbull: yah thats how i got in this tiem but it was an option I had to switch to will it default to 2d each time now?
[05:45] <calmpitbull> KXTwo: u do it once and that is it
[05:45] <kkrauss> I have a dumb question too.  what exacty IS unity?  I thought it was another desktop environment but apparantly im actually running gnome 3.4.1?
[05:46] <kkrauss> sorry if my questions are annoying but I am more about understanding the details not just accomplishing my goals
[05:46] <xangua> kkrauss: unity is a shell for gnome, like the official gnome shell: gnome-shell
[05:47] <kkrauss> ok so its just the front end?  So far Im not a huge fan, should I continue with it?  What is the general consensus on it?  How hard is it to switch back to gnome shell? I think my mint machine uses the gnome shell.
[05:48] <calmpitbull> unity is the best...faster than gnome and kde
[05:48] <calmpitbull> u need to learn about shortcuts
[05:48] <kkrauss> calmpitbull, as in?
[05:48] <calmpitbull> win keys and numbers
[05:48] <kkrauss> I like my gnome-shell on my other laptop, the super key menu is mo better
[05:49] <kkrauss> calmpitbull, I do not know them all but im familiar with many, how is that relevant?
[05:49] <visored> anyone have a guess as to why my network connection on my ubuntu file server randomly becomes slow? RDP connections are badly lagged, and file transfers take like 10 times as long
[05:49] <visored> it randomly fixes itself after a few hours
[05:49] <visored> and it seems to happen every so often
[05:49] <calmpitbull> kkrauss: for me is faster cuz i dont use mouse
[05:49] <kkrauss> calmpitbull, I do a little bit, but the average person will.  Remember what ubuntu s goal is, linux for average people
[05:50] <kkrauss> calmpitbull, is unity really all that faster, I cant fairly compare since my other laptop ihas better hardware, but linux mint smokes on there
[05:50] <Aeryndaar> selig5: so I got this after I tried to execute/install the driver, should I just 'edit anyway'?
[05:50] <kkrauss> I dont even need a swap on that one
[05:50] <JZApples> If I want to use ATI proprietary drivers in 12.04 do I still modify /etc/x11/xorg.conf?  It doesn't appear to exist.
[05:50] <calmpitbull> kkrauss: yes i know but after a while ull get to the point where ull just be in terminal window :)
[05:50] <kkrauss> btw guys I am KXTwo for those of you who didnt figure that out
[05:51] <kkrauss> iin school thats all I used was a terminal
[05:51] <kkrauss> I like both depending on what im doing
[05:51] <calmpitbull> well for me 70% is terminal
[05:51] <kkrauss> i notice that in unity when you maximize a window it actually maximises it to the window bar, and window icons are on the left
[05:52] <Baggins_> part
[05:52] <kkrauss> calmpitbull, I like both, but I like a GUI for the most part
[05:52] <Aaron_`> Getting quite desperate for help here.  I have a FTP server set up under windows at location A.  I have a windows AND a linux box set up at location B.  The windows box at location B can connect and use the FTP server, however the Lunix box at location B will let me log in, however when I issue a command, put or ls for example, it times out.
[05:52] <jorges23> hola de mexico
[05:52] <kkrauss> calmpitbull, do you do this for a living or for fun or both/
[05:52] <calmpitbull> both...but mostly fun
[05:54] <kkrauss> calmpitbull, the next thing I want to do is use an older machine I have as a server
[05:54] <kkrauss> calmpitbull, at the ver least I want a web server where I can host a dokuwiki
[05:54] <calmpitbull> kkrauss: when u maximize window in unity u lose windows icons...
[05:54] <kkrauss> calmpitbull, obviously I dont want a GUI on that one, so alllll shell baby.
[05:54] <calmpitbull> nice
[05:54] <calmpitbull> i love shell
[05:54] <kkrauss> calmpitbull, my question to you is, what is your opinion, should I just install ubuntu server
[05:55] <calmpitbull> ye
[05:55] <calmpitbull> yes
[05:55] <kkrauss> calmpitbull, OR should I install a virtual server, then have multiple VM's, one for web server, one for DNS, one for File server etc?
[05:55] <jorges23> hello good nite
[05:56] <calmpitbull> that is a good idea too
[05:56] <kkrauss> calmpitbull, I have some experience with vm's but not much, though a colleague of mine suggest I do it that way, and have separate VM's for each thing I want to do
[05:56] <calmpitbull> than do it like that
[05:57] <kkrauss> calmpitbull, you think VM's are better?  May I ask why, are there pro's and con's?
[05:57] <calmpitbull> maybe i should do that to my old machine
[05:57] <kkrauss> calmpitbull, I doubt some one of your level would needa ny help but I have a wiki on how to set up a virtual server and vm's lol
[05:57] <calmpitbull> dont know man but now i am thinking to do that to my old machine
[05:58] <calmpitbull> im noob at server too
[05:58] <calmpitbull> just installed ubuntu server but never used it, no time
[05:58] <kkrauss> have you set up virtual servers before?
[05:58] <JZApples> Can someone help me install ATI's proprietary drivers for my radeon 9600?
[05:58] <calmpitbull> never
[05:58] <kkrauss> oh shit
[05:58] <kkrauss> maybe I can be of use
[05:58] <calmpitbull> do it man :)
[05:59] <kkrauss> http://lab46.corning-cc.edu/user/kkrauss1/portfolio/vmserv
[05:59] <kkrauss> I just graduated with a degree in comp sci and hpc, but I have a LOT to learn.  that is how I set up my vm server using squeeze
[06:00] <kkrauss> another thing I want to be able to do is isntalling an OS over the network.
[06:00] <jorges23> hola alguien de mexico o al menos que habla espa ol
[06:00] <kkrauss> The setup at my school is what made me want to do what im doing.  I set up my spare room and want to continue my doku wiki from school.
[06:01] <calmpitbull> kkrauss: good
[06:02] <kkrauss> the only thing that sucks about the other system I have is that it dos not support usb boot, so ill have to burn a cd when I decide how to do it.
[06:03] <calmpitbull> that should not be a problem
[06:04] <kkrauss> I dont know if you looked at my wiki but I used squeeze for that project
[06:05] <calmpitbull> just glanced
[06:05] <kkrauss> I think squeeze is just a distro, I think it can be done with any distro
[06:06] <calmpitbull> dont know man like i sad noob at that
[06:06] <uw> hi performance issue when viewing pictures.  in a folder with a bunch of pictures, each about 4-6MB in size.  scrolling through fine but when I come to a picture that is vertical, takes Eye of GNOME about 4-10seconds to view picture.  Has anyone seen this before?  Using Eye of GNOME 2.30.0
[06:06] <kkrauss> well tomorrow I will start playing with this
[06:06] <kkrauss> now that this system is up and running
[06:06] <kkrauss> this will be the work machine for the office
[06:06] <kkrauss> now to get the server up and running
[06:07] <calmpitbull> ill make my old comp a cloud :)
[06:07] <kkrauss> what do you mean?
[06:08] <kkrauss> to me the cloud is the internet lol
[06:08] <kkrauss> as you can see i'm no dummy but have holes in my knowledge, as until I went back to school I only learned hwat i was immediately interested in to accomplish something.
[06:12] <leku> what is a good text based audio player?
[06:13] <Ben64> leku: mplayer?
[06:13] <leku> k
[06:14] <beeju> where can I easily find the bugs  filed on Launchpad by myself?
[06:14] <crizis> beeju: click on your username at top right corner -> bugs
[06:15] <beeju> crizis, thanx, now I got it.
[06:15] <leku> thanks
[06:15] <aeon-ltd> leku: look into mpd and its frontends, i personally recommend mpd+ncmpcpp
[06:16] <leku> oops
[06:16] <kkrauss> anyone know why when I tried to generate a key my terminal just hung?
[06:16] <dr_willis> what kind of key
[06:17] <leku> nthanks
[06:17] <kkrauss> ssh
[06:17] <dr_willis> and the exact command you are using?
[06:17] <kkrauss> ive done this before its just hanging
[06:17] <kkrauss> ssh keygen -t rsa
[06:17] <leku> what about an IM client, like naim?
[06:17] <leku> but that works with gtalk?
[06:18] <JMichael|work> is there a reason why, for example, PPA repos and us.archive.ubuntu.com are just death-defyingly slow right now?
[06:18] <kkrauss> nvm im an idiot
[06:18] <dr_willis> kkrauss:  missing a dash?
[06:19] <kkrauss> yes sir
[06:19] <dr_willis> ;) thought that was a typo...  i was about to say i alwsya use ssh-keygen myself
[06:20] <kkrauss> dr_willis, heres a question
[06:20] <kkrauss> whenever ive done this in the past I have been one of many users on a system, this is my first tiem doing it on my own system
[06:20] <kkrauss> the default for the key files is /root/.ssh
[06:20] <kkrauss> ive always done it /home/user/.ssh
[06:20] <kkrauss> does it matter?
[06:21] <dr_willis> the root user has his own key. as does each user
[06:21] <dr_willis> not surew you need a key for root.
[06:21] <virtuaposta> hi everybody... need li'l help here :-/
[06:21] <dr_willis> you shouldent be sshing in as root anyway
[06:21] <leku> tru dat
[06:21] <kkrauss> I cant even get into /root
[06:21] <kkrauss> so that won't work
[06:21] <virtuaposta> it is showing /usr 100% full but utilized 9.2 GB of space out of 9.7 GB.. even I removed some logs measuring 2 GB but the changes are not getting reflected... when I do du -h over /usr it shows 5.2 GB of total utilized space... any thoughts over this?
[06:21] <kkrauss> not sure why thats the default
[06:22] <leku> you shouldn't be ssh'ing AS 'root', or INTO a box as 'root'
[06:22] <dr_willis> you ran keygen as root? its not the default here
[06:22] <kkrauss> apparantly
[06:22] <kkrauss> I had to su into my log in
[06:22] <kkrauss> for it to default to my home directory
[06:23] <dr_willis> sounds weird....
[06:24] <kkrauss> oh shoot now to copy that key
[06:25] <Stava> How do I restart (stop and start) the unity dash/menu?
[06:25] <dr_willis> Stava:  unity --replace     normally
[06:26] <Stava> dr_willis: Seems I have a unity menu on both my monitors, and I thought restarting unity would help but it seems it didnt
[06:26] <Stava> normally there's only one menu
[06:27] <kkrauss> dr_willis, how would you copy the pub key file from one machine on one network to one on another?
[06:27] <dr_willis> kkrauss:  i tend to use ssh-copy-id
[06:27] <Stava> dr_willis: Also "The program 'unity' is not installed". I'm using unity 2d
[06:28] <dr_willis> Stava:   tru unityd --replace perhaps..  i dont use u2d.
[06:28] <dr_willis> unity2d --replace
[06:28] <kkrauss> dr_willis, out of curiosity will that automatically append?
[06:29] <dr_willis> kkrauss:  never noticed. im just a home lan user
[06:29] <Stava> dr_willis: seems i have none of those programs
[06:30] <kkrauss> hm not sure if I did this right or not
[06:31] <trijntje> Hi all, ever since I tried to install 'lord of ultima' I keep getting an error when updating:W: Fetching https://private-ppa.launchpad.net/commercial-ppa-uploaders/lordofultima/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/binary-i386/Packages failed.  The requested URL returned error: 403
[06:31] <trijntje>  
[06:31] <trijntje> how can I fix this anoying error?
[06:31] <kkrauss> aha it worked!
[06:31] <kkrauss> I was using scp before
[06:32] <kkrauss> dr_willis, in other version of ubuntu I could move the window control buttons back to the right side, can that be done with unity/
[06:33] <dr_willis> !controls
[06:35] <rex> hey anyone know what pkg lets you drag your window to the far right edge of desktop to move it to another desktop,rather than pin it to the current?
[06:36] <kkrauss> dr_willis, Why dont they just make it an option you can access easily instead of using terminal lol
[06:36] <dr_willis> rex that used to be a compiz feature i recall.
[06:36] <kkrauss> also the current work around doesnt change it for when maximized
[06:36] <dr_willis> kkrauss:  its a per theme setting. some themes do move them to the right hand side
[06:36] <kapz> anyone knows of laptop-hardware channel?
[06:36] <crizis> rex: i guess disabling 'snap' plugin with compizconfig could help
[06:37] <crizis> that's the beast doing the edge snapping at least
[06:37] <kkrauss> alright well I have learned enough for today, I will be back tomorrow to syphon what I can from the channel
[06:37] <kinich> If I install a package using dpkg -i , will apt-get recognize that package as installed and won't try to install it again?
[06:37] <dr_willis> kkrauss:  because when mazed tthey are not part of the window any more
[06:37] <kinich> say if I do 'apt-get -d install openssh-server'
[06:37] <kkrauss> tomorrow hopefully starts my virtual server setup
[06:37] <kinich> copy the .deb somewhere else
[06:37] <kinich> install it using dpkg, will apt-get recognize it as installed if I do 'apt-get install openssh-server' ?
[06:38] <kkrauss>  
[06:38] <dr_willis> kinich:  dpkg and apt know what eath other did
[06:38] <kkrauss> by chance you arent using xchat are you?
[06:38] <kinich> cool
[06:38] <kinich> :)
[06:38] <kinich> kkrauss: me?
[06:38] <kkrauss> anyone
[06:39] <kinich> irssi here
[06:39] <kkrauss> I cant figure out how to get it to connect automatically
[06:39] <kinich> thanks dr_willis !
[06:39] <kkrauss> I dont see anything in the options
[06:39] <dr_willis> kkrauss:  under the server settings. a autoconnect checkbox
[06:42] <kkrauss> once where we thought but got it figure dout
[06:42] <kkrauss> ok im out for real guys
[06:42] <kkrauss> thanks to all who help, see you tomorrow
[06:52] <skulltip> anyone else have a problem with 12.04 and QT Creator?  I can't drag and drop widgets to the client area, they disappear when i release the mouse
[06:53] <ubuntu> hi
[06:53] <ubuntu> i just installed ubuntu
[06:53] <skulltip> ahah!..  http://www.qtcentre.org/archive/index.php/t-48761.html
[06:53] <ubuntu> it's cool i guess
[06:53] <xkill> Title: QT Upgraded - Can't add Widgets to UI [Archive] - Qt Centre Forum (at www.qtcentre.org)
[06:54] <belgianguy> is there a way to find out what caused a "hard lockup"?
[06:55] <belgianguy> of two CPUs
[06:55] <Jordan_U> xkill: Please disable that script.
[06:55] <xkill> Jordan_U: Error: "Please" is not a valid command.
[06:55] <crizis> :))
[06:55] <skulltip> going to try a reboot, seems that may be an answer
[06:57] <belgianguy> or perhaps why I get a warped screen between login screen and actual desktop?
[06:57] <belgianguy> could that have to do with my ATI card?
[06:57] <belgianguy> or because at one point in time there was Plymouth installed?
[07:02] <fidel_> ahoi
[07:05] <none> VIZORS!
[07:05] <none> VIZORS are a threat to soul society
[07:05] <Jordan_U> !ot | none
[07:09] <chrongen> any redhat helpers?
[07:10] <Jordan_U> chrongen: Possibly in #rhel
[07:11] <chrongen> can't go there, jordan
[07:12] <linuxfreaker> I have .zip format file but dont have unzip command. How shall I use tar to unzip it?
[07:12] <linuxfreaker> I ran that command couple of months back but forgot
[07:12] <tnm> hellow! is there any program that sends my email everytime IP of computer changes?
[07:13] <linuxfreaker> tnm: You need to write a scriot
[07:13] <linuxfreaker> tnm: script
[07:13] <wylde> !zip | linuxfreaker
[07:13] <Jordan_U> !register | chrongen
[07:13] <linuxfreaker> wylde: No Zip command
[07:13] <chrongen> is there a redhat chan? Can't jump to #rhel like Jordan proposed.
[07:13] <linuxfreaker> wylde: No GUI
[07:14] <tnm> linuxfreaker, i'm not very good at that.... :S
[07:14] <Jordan_U> chrongen: The redhat channel is #rhel, you probably need to be registered to join it. For more help on using freenode please join #freenode (this is #ubuntu, for Ubuntu support discussion only).
[07:14] <Aritz> hi everybody
[07:14] <wylde> linuxfreaker: apt-cache search unzip ?
[07:15] <linuxfreaker> wylde: Not showing anything
[07:15] <chrongen> cheers jordan....i mis mirc
[07:15] <Aritz> anyone familiar how to monitor the ip stack buffer(or queue) in linux
[07:15] <linuxfreaker> Aritz: strace
[07:15] <Aritz> im new in this field, any good reference is appreciated
[07:16] <wylde> linuxfreaker: really that's odd http://paste.ubuntu.com/990249/
[07:16] <Aritz> thqnks
[07:16] <Aritz> cheers
[07:16] <linuxfreaker> wylde: -z, --gzip, --gunzip, --ungzip
[07:16] <linuxfreaker> wylde: man tar
[07:16] <linuxfreaker> -z shud work
[07:16] <linuxfreaker> wylde: I will try it
[07:17] <linuxfreaker> tar -gunzip shud work..i guess
[07:18] <mardraum> you guess wrong
[07:19] <wylde> !find unzip | linuxfreaker
[07:19] <n00bguy> hi fellow ubuntu brethren :)
[07:19] <wylde> !info unzip | linuxfreaker
[07:19] <n00bguy> everytime i try to upgrade my ubuntu 12.04
[07:19] <Aeryndaar> Hey guys. I have a question. I'm trying to install the proprietary driver for NVIDIA GeForce GT 540M. Downloaded the driver already as a .run file, tried to run it as an executable but that met with encoding issues. Apparently since it's a video card driver, I need to turn off x11 first (get out of GUI). What should I do to get this thing installed?
[07:19] <n00bguy> i get this error on terminal
[07:20] <newbiedemon1> how are you
[07:20] <wilee-nilee> n00bguy, is 12.04 your only install?
[07:20] <richtroye> aritz if Ubuntu distributes iftop, you might like to try that out for monitoring your ip stack
[07:21] <Aritz> richtroye: thank you very much =)
[07:21] <richtroye> You're welcome!  It's quite nifty.
[07:21] <n00bguy> yes
[07:22] <n00bguy> @wilee-nilee here is a screenshot
[07:22] <n00bguy> http://i.imgur.com/xCPEP.png
[07:22] <Aeryndaar> (continued from above...) I tried to edit /etc/init/rc-sysinit.conf and change RUN_LEVE = 1 by running in command-only mode, but when I was trying to access the folder where my file is located, it is apparently encripted, and I get a message that says "keyctl_search: Required key not available     Perhaps try the interactive 'encryptfs-mount-private'". What should I do to have things be decrypted?
[07:22] <wilee-nilee> n00bguy, 12.10 is in development upgrading if you have stuff there you can't loose is not really advised
[07:23] <wylde> Aeryndaar: ctrl+alt+f1 ---> Login ---> sudo lightdm stop ---> sudo ./blahblah.run
[07:23] <Aritz> richtroye: its sth that is not native in ubuntu right? i have to download the iftop then?
[07:24] <wilee-nilee> n00bguy, you mean a update upgrade not a upgrade to 12.10 right?
[07:25] <wilee-nilee> n00bguy, it is telling you to try this,  sudo apt-get -f install
[07:25] <Aeryndaar> wylde (lol sorry im noob just got ubuntu 3 days ago) how would i get out of that virtual command-only environment later?
[07:26] <n00bguy> i tried running sudo apt-get -f install, but it still complains http://i.imgur.com/HvMzV.png
[07:26] <n00bguy> plz help me ppl...cant figure this out :(
[07:26] <wylde> Aeryndaar: after it's installed start lightdm again ( sudo service lightdm start ). Although, I don't recall if it will want to reboot or not. If it does it should start as normal using the new driver.
[07:27] <wilee-nilee> n00bguy, Do you have synaptic installed?
[07:27] <n00bguy> i think so
[07:28] <wilee-nilee> n00bguy, go there and look in custom filters and at broken packages
[07:28] <n00bguy> @wilee-nilee, how can i force apt to libwbcclient0 & samb-common the versions it wants
[07:29] <wilee-nilee> n00bguy, Don't know really I have never had to do a force
[07:30] <n00bguy> @wilee-nilee, found 2 broken pkgs in synaptic, what next ?
[07:30] <n00bguy> remove them ?
[07:30] <n00bguy> winbind & libpam-winbind
[07:30] <wilee-nilee> n00bguy, might just need to be installed from there or removed, hard to say from here.
[07:33] <wilee-nilee> n00bguy, I have had upgrades blocked by a broken package that when just installed cleared up the problem.
[07:33] <rex_> anyone install ubuntu or know of installing ubuntu on the new 27 inch imac?
[07:33] <n00bguy> @wilee-nilee, winbind & libpam-winbind, both of which have unmet dependencies, they want libwbclient0 2:3.6.3-2ubuntu2 (instead of 2:3.6.3-2ubuntu2.1 ); & samba-common 2:3.6.3-2ubuntu2 (instead of 2:3.6.3-2ubuntu2.1)
[07:34] <Aeryndaar> wylde: thanks. I'm going to apt-get update first, then possibly I may need to sign on here on another PC while this get ctrl+alt+F1'd
[07:34] <n00bguy> @wilee-nilee, do i have a newer version than what it wants to satisfy dependencies ?
[07:35] <wilee-nilee> n00bguy, Not sure really I don't think I can really definitively answer that, a bit outside my pay range. :)
[07:35] <n00bguy> @wilee-nilee, in my case how to really install a particular version of those 2 dep packages,  libwbclient & samba-common
[07:36] <wilee-nilee> n00bguy, not sure like I said not really an area I know, per-say.
[07:37] <richtroye> arag0rn__ You can do 'sudo apt-get install iftop'
[07:37] <n00bguy> @wilee-nilee, thanks buddy, will try removing, upgrading & then reinstalling
[07:38] <richtroye> Aritz  You can do 'sudo apt-get install iftop'
[07:45] <n00bguy> thanks @wilee-nilee, upgrade now seems to be working after removing the 2 broken packages from synaptic....i need to learn more cmd line fu :)
[07:45] <wilee-nilee> n00bguy, you figured it out though, the broken package area is where I always look first. :)
[07:49] <Latha> hey
[07:50] <Latha> how r u
[07:51] <fidel_> hi Latha - this is a support-channel. so general chat isnt that usual inhere. #ubuntu-offtopic might be interesting for you for general chat
[07:51] <fidel_> focus inhere is support/troubleshooting
[07:54] <Aeryndaar> Hey guys
[07:54] <Aeryndaar> So I just did ctrl+alt+F1
[07:54] <Aeryndaar> then tried sudo lightdm stop
[07:54] <Aeryndaar> apparently the command-only environment crashed?
[07:55] <Aeryndaar> and lightdm is still on
[07:55] <Aeryndaar> now im back to the normal interphase
[07:55] <auronandace> sudo service lightdm stop
[07:55] <Aeryndaar> ctrl+alt+f1 doesn't work now.
[07:55] <Aeryndaar> That's what I typed after ctrl+alt+f1 earlier (after logging in my own account of course)
[07:55] <Aeryndaar> and that's what caused the crash
[07:56] <Aeryndaar> I'm trying to install a proprietary video driver
[07:57] <maximb>  I've mounted a windows share and it's currently owned by a root /mnt/share - even if I try to change ownership to me via sudo chown -r username , it won't change it - why ?
[07:57] <krababbel> Aeryndaar: can't you login to desktop?
[07:57] <Aeryndaar> krababbel I am in desktop right now
[07:57] <Aeryndaar> Like the NORMAL desktop
[07:58] <krababbel> why do you want to stop lighdm? just install the driver
[07:58] <Aeryndaar> I tried that earlier
[07:58] <Aeryndaar> I thought I need to stop the x server
[07:59] <Aeryndaar> because when I tried to run the .run file as an executable earlier
[07:59] <Aeryndaar> in the end I got an encoding error or some sort
[08:00] <Aeryndaar> krababbel: this is a screenshot
[08:00] <Aeryndaar> http://i.imgur.com/AgVNw.png
[08:00] <krababbel> Aeryndaar: what driver?
[08:00] <Aeryndaar> NVIDIA
[08:00] <krababbel> it's in the official packages
[08:01] <Aeryndaar> NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64.275.19.run for NVIDIA GeForce 540M
[08:01] <krababbel> don't use that
[08:01] <Aeryndaar> I downloaded it from nvidia's website
[08:01] <Aeryndaar> Oh?
[08:01] <Aeryndaar> Then what should I use for installing that proprietary nvidia driver?
[08:02] <krababbel> restriced driver option in system settings
[08:03] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[08:03] <Aeryndaar> I also tried to do a bunch of other things earlier and they didn't work. Not sure if you seen my post from earlier: Hey guys. I have a question. I'm trying to install the proprietary driver for NVIDIA GeForce GT 540M. Downloaded the driver already as a .run file, tried to run it as an executable but that met with encoding issues. Apparently since it's a video card driver, I need to turn off x11 first (get out of GUI). What should I do to
[08:03] <Aeryndaar> get this thing installed? I tried to edit /etc/init/rc-sysinit.conf and change RUN_LEVE = 1 by running in command-only mode, but when I was trying to access the folder where my file is located, it is apparently encripted, and I get a message that says "keyctl_search: Required key not available     Perhaps try the interactive 'encryptfs-mount-private'". What should I do to have things be decrypted?
[08:04] <Aeryndaar> krababber so yeah that's what I've tried to do...
[08:04] <Aeryndaar> krababbel * typo
[08:05] <TomatoKetchup> damn, just got rhythmbox to crash twice
[08:08] <Aeryndaar_PC2> computer switch :}
[08:11] <linuxfreaker> maximb: tar -Z works
[08:12] <maximb> linuxfreaker: how would tar help me "write/delete" files in that share as "me" ?
[08:15]  * nikolja dobar dan
[08:16] <fidel_> !en > nikolja
[08:16] <Nick_1> Mmmmm
[08:18] <DJones> !hr | nikolja
[08:19] <nikolja> it's a serbian, but never mind :)
[08:20] <DJones> nikolja: Sorry about that
[08:25] <stiv2k> any idea how to get lirc working in ubuntu 12.04
[08:38] <vuokko> what's the topic?
[08:39] <DJones> !ubuntu | vuokko
[08:39] <dr_willis> ubuntu support ;0
[08:39] <sveinse> Hi. Is there a PPA with subversion 1.7 somewhere (for Precise)?
[08:39] <dr_willis> and cool 12.04 features
[08:40] <dr_willis> theres a ppa search site/tools i recall sveinse
[08:40] <dr_willis> !find  ppasearch
[08:40] <dr_willis> hmm. may not be in the  defaul.t repos
[08:41] <killer> hi guys..........can u help me how to add wikipedia lens to ubuntu
[08:41] <AziL> do it your self
[08:41] <dr_willis> killer i used the webupd8 ppa for it i think
[08:42] <dr_willis> neat lens. very well done and handy
[08:43] <killer> dr_willis : can u give me the ppa
[08:43] <dr_willis> killer check the webupd8 site for the commands to add/install it
[08:44] <ChristopherNg> dr bruce willis what are you talking about?
[08:45] <TBarth> hello, on Ubuntu 12 Java Webstart doesnt work anymore. It doesnt load all the java archive to get the java application startet. I always get an exception ! Can you help me?
[08:46] <dr_willis> try the other java versions TBarth ?
[08:46] <dr_willis> !java
[08:46] <TBarth> dr_willis, I only use the oracle version
[08:50] <TBarth> I ve installed it correctly as described in this docu wiki http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Java/Installation/Oracle_Java
[08:51] <TBarth> Java 7 JDK
[08:54] <dr_willis> id say check askubuntu.com TBarth  see if others  have same issue
[08:55] <glosoli> Is there any way to use themes terminal in reminna ?
[08:55] <glosoli> I mean the one I use in my system to be used in Remmina
[08:55] <glosoli> I want white background
[08:56] <mashton> Hi All. I have a question regarding Ubuntu 12.04 Desktop. I am using alt-tab to switch between applications. If I have more than one instance of a particular app open (e.g. 3 instances of nautilus), then pausing over that icon opens up a view of those open windows (then I can use the arrow keys to pick a specific instance). Is there a way of closing a selected instance from that alt-tab view?
[08:56] <dr_willis> you  could run different terminal apps with different settings i guess glosoli
[08:57] <glosoli> dr_willis: so it depends on my ssh config ?
[08:57] <glosoli> I mean Terminal in ssh
[08:57] <dr_willis> glosoli:  not sure what you mean.
[08:57] <glosoli> in Reminna
[08:57] <glosoli> when I connect to ssh
[08:58] <glosoli> My terminal is black
[08:58] <glosoli> in my sys its white
[08:58] <dr_willis> i normally just ssh from a gnome-terminal
[08:59] <dr_willis> different terminal apps can have different color settings
[09:00] <dr_willis> i think gnome-terminal can even do different color schemes on a per tab basis
[09:03] <glosoli> dr_willis: in Reminna
[09:03] <subb1> hello all !
[09:03] <glosoli> dr_willis: you can't adjust terminal colors, reminna has embedded terminal dunno which one or what even
[09:03] <subb1> like yahoo messenger for win, what are other video supported chat IMs for linux ( other than skype)...
[09:04] <dr_willis> !im
[09:06] <subb1> I require IM clients which support video calls.
[09:06] <jenenliu> hello guys
[09:07] <subb1> any idea guys?
[09:07] <anos> hi dudes, how can i set oracle linux repositories during installation?
[09:08] <dr_willis> oracle has linux repos? never noticed
[09:12] <intore> Hi, i can't mount the users home directory from a ldap-samba server on the clients at login time. i installed pam_mount but the configuration is not correct i think. I want that the user home directory in /users/username on the server will be mount on the client on /home/username. this is the command-output and the pam_mount.conf.: http://paste.debian.net/169030/
[09:13] <Aeryndaar> Ah sweet. I just figured out how to finally enable backspace key to back 1 page on Firefox
[09:13] <VictorCL> I once installed a  email server to work in my ubuntu machine to be use with an gmail account, but I dont remember what I did .. how can I check?
[09:15] <gaby> hello everybody - please iam looking for email grabber for ubuntu and  i dont know any - i even search on google - and i didnt reach any thing - any help ?
[09:15] <mosno> right, i'm getting strange glitches where HTML fields and my address bar in firefox goes black
[09:15] <mosno> what is up with this?
[09:16] <mosno> doesn't happen under debian or centos
[09:16] <killer> hi guys...can u help me how to install this:"http://ubuntu-art.org/content/show.php/UbuntuLogo.2?content=61835"
[09:16] <mosno> am in a gnome shell session
[09:17] <gaby> hello everybody - please iam looking for email grabber for ubuntu and  i dont know any - i even search on google - and i didnt reach any thing - any help ?
[09:17] <Jacruth> Hi there. I need help. I have this error: ACPI: EC: input buffer is not empty, aborting transaction. And this is my log: http://seduccioncientifica.com/foro/kern.log
[09:18] <Aeryndaar> gaby: thunderbird?
[09:18] <Aeryndaar> use the ubuntu software center
[09:18] <gaby> this is not a grabber Aeryndaar
[09:19] <gaby> Aeryndaar -- i  need to get emails of companies to send them offers
[09:19] <Aeryndaar> gaby: oh oops I read that wrong. my bad
[09:19] <sirriffsalot> Anyone know how wine sound can be fed through JACK?
[09:19] <wilee-nilee> gaby, I use a firefox addon that will  let you list multiple email accounts.
[09:20] <Wiz_KeeD> hey guys how do i find out if i have disabled my wired network interface?
[09:20] <Aeryndaar> gaby: like this? http://www.emailextrator.org/Download/download.html linux version
[09:20] <dr_willis> so you are  basically wanting to manage a mailing list?
[09:20] <Wiz_KeeD> i have the cable connected but still it shows nothing
[09:20] <sirriffsalot> Wiz_KeeD: Are you on unity?
[09:20] <wilee-nilee> Wiz_KeeD, right click the network manager
[09:21] <Aeryndaar> gaby: see if that's what you wanted
[09:21] <gaby> the link is not working aeryndaar
[09:21] <Wiz_KeeD> i see the wired connection
[09:21] <Wiz_KeeD> Auto eth0 Last used Never...wtf
[09:22] <gaby> wilee-nilee - i dont want multible email accounts , i want to grab or extract emails of websites
[09:22] <Aeryndaar> gaby: http://www.emailextractor.org/Download/download.html oops
[09:22] <Aeryndaar> gaby: missed a c lol
[09:22] <Aeryndaar> gaby: I had to type it from another computer
[09:24] <gaby> Aeryndaar : but this is a bin file - how can i install it
[09:24] <msquarme> how to configure wireless network in ubuntu 10.04 Lts?
[09:25] <Aeryndaar> gaby: http://www.digitalfacts.net/2011/04/how-to-install-bin-file-in-ubuntu.html
[09:25] <Aeryndaar> that walks you through quite well :)
[09:25] <Aeryndaar> hopefully it helps
[09:26] <Aeryndaar> +x makes it an executable file
[09:26] <gaby> Aeryndaar : also this is to send multiple mails ..... i need a soft ware that allows me to GRAB emails
[09:26] <TBarth> Is GTK still used in Ubuntu LTS 12???
[09:26] <Aeryndaar> :|
[09:26] <Aeryndaar> I'm out of ideas :( Sorry
[09:26] <Aeryndaar> I tried.
[09:27] <dr_willis> TBarth: gtk3 i belive
[09:27] <Anomie21> Is this proper syntax for a cronjob? ::: 30 * * * * "/etc/mysql -u root -p cpub456852 -e "update wp_postmeta set meta_value = replace(meta_value, '<img src="', '') where meta_key='image';"\""
[09:27] <hawkeye> GTK 3 lol
[09:27] <dr_willis> !info gtk
[09:28] <dr_willis> !find gtk
[09:28] <damari> anyone know why archive.ubuntu.com is down?
[09:28] <damari> cant apt-get update atm hrm
[09:29] <dr_willis> damari:  been having issues for a day or  now
[09:29] <hawkeye> @damari ; get main server
[09:29] <damari> im trying to figure out main server =)
[09:29] <damari> its not eu.arc.. or us.arch ... :)
[09:29] <hawkeye> look software repos
[09:30] <damari> ahh thx. not used with GUI T_T
[09:32] <damari> sweet thx yet again
[09:32] <damari> l8
[09:32] <virpara> how to enable/disable mobile broadband?
[09:32] <aQute> I have created a live usb for ubuntu 12.04 now I am trying to install it with windows 7 the problem is whenever I select install ubuntu inside windows 7 the setup exits can anybody hep me her e?
[09:33] <dr_willis> aQute:  you really want to use wubi? it can be problematic
[09:34] <virpara> through terminal
[09:34] <aQute> I tried with boot menu also same thing heppens
[09:34] <Jacruth> Hello, I'm using the latest release and I need to set  acpi=off in my menu.lst. As far as I know, since Grub2, it doesn't exist. So, where could I set it?
[09:34] <dr_willis> Jacruth:  /etc/default/grub the rerun update-grub
[09:35] <dr_willis> !grub
[09:35] <aQute> dr_willis: I am using unetbootin to create  the disk
[09:36] <dr_willis> aQute:  for a wubi install you just need the iso and the wubi exe in the same dir. no need to put it on a usb
[09:36] <dr_willis> i dont like or reccomend using wubi
[09:37] <aQute> dr_willis: i tried using boot installer also
[09:37] <aQute> same results :( , are you sure we can install with windows 7 using a live cd ??
[09:37] <dr_willis> if you want to test out ubuntu, id do it in virtualbox
[09:37] <Jacruth> ey dr_willis, do you know what differences are between setting acpi=off in GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT or GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX?
[09:37] <indieross> im trying to add a startup command i need to run 2 commands in the same entry, xbmx-wiiremote and then just xbmc. whats the proper way to add that in
[09:38] <dr_willis> aQute:  most people install along side windows from cd/usb
[09:38] <indieross> there need to be a slight pause after running xbmx-wiiremote
[09:38] <aQute> dr_willis: I have already tested it and its awesome :) the only problem is i can t play games in ubuntu properly ;)
[09:39] <dr_willis> indieross:  make a script, put it in the .config/autorun dir  it will run when you login
[09:39] <killer> can anyone help me to change system sounds in 12.04
[09:39] <dr_willis> !autorun
[09:39] <dr_willis> !autostart
[09:40] <dr_willis> i mthink that factoid is outdated
[09:40] <JensenDan> anyone knows a sms gateway not hard to setup, and working so that i can send sms by mysql ?
[09:41] <archboxman> dr_willis: little off if using another windows enviroment ;{
[09:41] <indieross> dr_willis, what would be my syntax though
[09:41] <dr_willis> archboxman:  that autostart dir works for most of them these days
[09:41] <virpara> hello can anyone help me with terminal commands?
[09:42] <dr_willis> indieross:  details needed..    scripting guides are out there.
[09:42] <dr_willis> !abs
[09:42] <archboxman> dr_willis: running unity... not openbox or lubuntu, xubuntu or other flavors
[09:43] <archboxman> dont forget cron jobs..
[09:43] <dr_willis> archboxman:  that .confug/autostart thing works with unity, gnome, kde, and xfce  and lxde i think
[09:43] <indieross> dr_willis, i was thinking xbmc-wiiremote && sleep 2 && xbmc
[09:43] <archboxman> dr_willis: would have to install ubuntu to find out
[09:44] <dr_willis> one commqnd per line with a & after them. except for the sleep one
[09:44] <dr_willis> foo &
[09:44] <dr_willis> sleep 6
[09:44] <dr_willis> foo &
[09:44] <Neo84> Hi all Need help
[09:44] <indieross> so then xbmc-wiiremote & sleep 6 && xbmc
[09:45] <Neo84> I want  to remove side panel in 12.04
[09:45] <Neo84> how todo that
[09:45] <dr_willis> Neo84:  use some other desktop
[09:45] <dr_willis> !nounity
[09:45] <Neo84> How to do that ?
[09:45] <indieross> Neo84 install gnome-fallback-session
[09:45] <indieross> sudo apt-get install gnome-fallback-session
[09:45] <Neo84> While loggin it's not giving me classic option
[09:45] <dr_willis> i perfer unity
[09:46] <Neo84> yeah but's it's to process expensive and I have an old laptop
[09:46] <indieross> unity is a pain to open apps if you dont know what ur looking for
[09:47] <indieross> http://i.imgur.com/0GnZs.png eres my ubuntu desktop
[09:47] <dr_willis> use unity2d or lubuntu on low end hardware
[09:47] <indieross> gnome-fallback-session with compiz
[09:47] <indieross> and awn
[09:47] <dr_willis> i have a gnome classic menu in my unity..   ;)
[09:48] <archboxman> dr_willis: want to play with unity and new search feature will have to destroy my linux mint distro and install lubuntu for low ress even though good enough to handle most ..
[09:49] <vlt> Hello. What pkg do I need to be able to run add-apt-repository?
[09:49] <indieross> its already installed by default
[09:49] <dr_willis> !find add-app-repository
[09:50] <vlt> indieross: No, it isn't in my debootstrapped install of 12.04
[09:50] <indieross> just run it as sudo
[09:51] <vlt> The binary ships with pkg python-software-properties.
[09:52] <virpara> hello how to enable/disable mobile broadband from terminal?
[09:54] <adv_> hi
[09:54] <dr_willis> hmm
[09:57] <Neo84> indieross it is saying gnome-fallback-session
[09:58] <indieross> yesh
[10:03] <ecolitan> hello
[10:03] <adv__> hi
[10:03] <SharkMuttleworth> Bonjour
[10:04] <ecolitan> i would like to prepare for a release upgrade 10.04-12.04, but want to just download all the packages. Is it possible to stop at this step?
[10:04] <dr_willis> ecolitan:  i think the alternative installer cd can sort of upgrade that way
[10:05] <SharkMuttleworth> Yes... you need to watch really carefully, and hit cancel at the exact moment
[10:05] <dr_willis> the cd can work as  local repo
[10:05] <zooz> hi people
[10:05] <zooz> wow so many of you
[10:05] <sirriffsalot> ecolitan: if you want to avoid not being able to use your computer for a day, wait a month or two before using 12.04
[10:05] <sirriffsalot> ecolitan: unless of course you need 12.04
[10:05] <zooz> what is the difference between server and desktop editions?
[10:05] <dr_willis> serv3rs have been slow the last few days
[10:05] <ecolitan> its a remove vm machine, there is no way I can sit and wait to hit cancel
[10:05] <dr_willis> zooz:  server has no desktop gui
[10:06] <zooz> dr_willis, and no way to install a gui?
[10:06] <Neo84> Hi all how to go to classic mode in 12.04. 'gnome-fallback-session' is not working
[10:06] <dr_willis> zooz:  of course you can install whatever you want
[10:21] <Narc> Hello everyone. I'm trying to install Ubuntu from a USB key on a friend's damned iMac. I followed the wiki and a lot of other howtos to no avail, the mac doesn't even see the USB drive. Now I installed rEFIt and I'm trying to boot the install CD from a partition. Any suggestions on how to succeed ? Thanks
[10:22] <adv__> Narc: done that on PC no idea for MAC
[10:22] <television90_> gvfdfgbsd
[10:22] <adv__> using Vbox to run it along side win
[10:23] <SharkMuttleworth> Narc: But the iMac already has a nice operating system...
[10:23] <ikonia> Narc: if the mac isn't seeing the usb drive either there is a problem with that pen drive, or it wasn't created properly
[10:24] <Narc> SharkMuttleworth: It's not mine, no sarcasm please :-D
[10:24] <ikonia> Narc: is there a reason you are not just burning a CD and booting from it ?
[10:24] <adv__> Narc: wht is the format of fs ext2~3~4??
[10:24] <Narc> ikonia: The superdrive DVD drive in the iMac is dead
[10:25] <Narc> ikonia: It sees Mac OS X install on that same pen drive but not Linux install
[10:25] <adv__> Narc: Make bootable USB on win, via Vbox and try it on Mac
[10:25] <usuario_> hola
[10:25] <adv__> Hmm
[10:25] <usuario_> hola
[10:26] <Narc> adv__: I used every possible filesystem available in disk utility on Mac OS, mac os extended with GUID partition table, and FAT
[10:26] <ikonia> Narc: so it's more realistic that the usb pen drive has not had the linux component put on it correctly to boot
[10:27] <Narc> ikonia: I followed the wiki to the letter 5 times... I tried creating it manually, I used Startup Disk Creator on Ubuntu, I tried cloning the ISO... Any suggestions ?
[10:28] <usuario_> hola
[10:28] <ikonia> Narc: not really, I've never had a problem (apart from if I've made a mistake creating the usb boot image)
[10:28] <edikoston> hello
[10:28] <usuario_> que
[10:28] <ikonia> Narc: tried booting it on another machine (non-mac / mac)
[10:29] <Narc> ikonia: Ok, so chances are I'm doing something wrong
[10:29] <Narc> ikonia: I'll try again and check on my laptop
[10:29] <ikonia> Narc: annoyingly it does sound that way
[10:29] <usuario_> in spain coño
[10:29] <usuario_> fuck you
[10:30] <usuario_> asshole
[10:30] <Narc> ikonia: Thanks for your help, it must be user error again...
[10:30] <ikonia> Narc: it does sound that way annoyingly, although debugging it will be tedious
[10:31] <adv__> Narc, does MAC have Virtualbox?
[10:31] <adv__> try that
[10:32] <Russel-Athletic> hiho, i have a problem with some of my computers:
[10:32] <edikoston> :)
[10:32] <Narc> adv__: I will if I really can't get the installer to boot
[10:32] <Russel-Athletic> they just crash at randomly, no response and no tty, they are new machines and it happens with latest lts and 2 versions before that
[10:32] <Russel-Athletic> /var/log/syslog doesn't tell me anything and i don't know where else to look
[10:33] <adv__> There is virtualbox for ubuntu if u have access to any other ubuntu system try it on that...
[10:33] <adv__> btw which ubuntu ver?
[10:33] <Russel-Athletic> they are in a nis with /home over nfs if this matters
[10:34] <SharkMuttleworth> I'd recommend VMWare over Virtualbox
[10:35] <adv__> Have no idea of VMWare....got to try that too
[10:35] <adv__> ok bye, laters
[10:37] <karni> Hi folks! Another question - Pidgin IM tray icon does not blink (the blue envelope on Unity). Any way to turn on blinking?
[10:38] <karni> I think this depends on the system really, so it's not a Pidgin bug in itself.
[10:38] <karni> But is pretty frustrating for my friend using ubuntu. Static blue envelope does not catch your attention as a blinking one.
[10:41] <Fudge> anyone built vmware on precise successfully,  vmplayer 4.0.3
[10:42] <ritz> hi any suggestion for h/w ( cheap and small footprint  ) wrt building a settop box, and video game console
[10:42] <Fudge> karni  does this package help, pidgin-libnotify - display notification bubbles in pidgin
[10:43] <karni> Fudge: it's installed. still, if you miss it, and come back to your laptop, it's not as easy to notice a static blue envelope than a blinking icon in the tray (old Ubuntu+Pidgin behavior).
[10:44] <karni> Thanks for trying, though :)
[10:44] <duppy> hi! ubuntu noob here
[10:44] <duppy> need help anyone?
[10:44] <duppy> i need help anyone?
[10:45] <DJones> !ask
[10:45] <Fudge> karni  np mate
[10:45] <duppy> !ask
[10:45] <Fudge> duppy , ask your question
[10:46] <SDdfsEREy> is it safe to use proprietary driver for 12.04?
[10:47] <duppy> !ask why is that when i play flash games on facebook, why CPU spikes to 100% and usually hangs up? i just installed ubuntu 12.04. i came from windows xp and didn't experience this. thanks!
[10:47] <ikonia> duppy: you don't need to do !ask to ask a question
[10:47] <crizis> sounds like usual flash activity... :)
[10:47] <duppy> oh ok. hehehe.
[10:48] <crizis> duppy: you might wanna try chromium/chrome
[10:48] <crizis> duppy: it's a bit better with flash in linux
[10:48] <Guest48305> duppy: flash is crap and not really supported anymore on linux
[10:48] <Guest48305> duppy: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTA2MDc
[10:48] <duppy> so playing flash games here in linux sucks?
[10:48] <crizis> Guest48305: it is supported, but for the future releases only through chromes ppapi or whatever it was
[10:49] <crizis> duppy: try in chrome (or chromium)
[10:49] <duppy> ok gonna try it now
[10:50] <Battaglin> hmm howto set nameserver in 12.04  I can see that /etc/resolv.conf gets flushed now and then ?
[10:51] <crizis> Battaglin: system settings > network > options on your network connection
[10:51] <crizis> ipv4settings tab
[10:51] <crizis> select Automatic (DHCP addresses only)
[10:51] <Battaglin> server
[10:51] <Battaglin> version
[10:52] <crizis> hm
[10:52] <crizis> no idea about that, sorry :)
[10:52] <Battaglin> ok..thnx
[10:52] <crizis> have you checked server documentation?
[10:52] <e2b04836> /etc/network/interfaces
[10:52] <crizis> Battaglin: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/index.html this is good link to bookmark :)
[10:56] <Battaglin> just didnt expect a basic setting to be changed.. thats all
[10:56] <Battaglin> I guess you cant count on that anymore hehe
[10:58] <oxothuk> добрый день, камрады
[10:58] <oxothuk> подскажите как ограничить пропускную способность на интерфейсе по количеству пакетов
[10:58] <oxothuk> например 1000 пакетов в секунду
[10:59] <LjL> !ru | oxothuk
[10:59] <duppy> it hanged up again. need to restart my laptop. still hangs when playing flash on facebook. i already used chromium.
[10:59] <mikel> is there a way to disable the notifications for who joins and leaves in xchat?
[11:00] <bazhang> mikel, right click channel name is one
[11:00] <mikel> excellent, thank you
[11:00] <sirriffsalot> I figured out why youtube refuses to play... whenever JACK is active it won't play and the flash plugin for jack doesn't work, not even showing up in the connections tab.. any ideas?
[11:01] <duppy> any idea what the problem might be? playing flash games on facebook hangs up my laptop.
[11:02] <ikonia> duppy: it's not uncommon, flash support in linux is very hit and miss for users
[11:02] <ikonia> duppy: I assumed you installed flash from the ubuntu repos
[11:02] <duppy> ikonia: yes
[11:03] <ikonia> duppy: not much you can do then
[11:03] <duppy> can i install  it any other way?
[11:04] <mikel> there's three diff versions for linux on flash website... dunno if they differ
[11:04] <duppy> mikel: what website?
[11:04] <crizis> hangs up? like X crashes?
[11:04] <crizis> that's a driver bug then
[11:05] <crizis> flash generally works just fine on my installations
[11:05] <mikel> http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/?promoid=BUIGP
[11:06] <duppy> crizis: hangs up - like need to turn off you computer.
[11:06] <crizis> gfx driver bug then for sure
[11:06] <crizis> that should not happen :)
[11:06] <codekK> hello all, can anyone help me? i have a continuos errors when i update to ubuntu 12.04 from 10.04, Ubuntu-classic with effects dont start and some apps crashes.. :S
[11:06] <duppy> crizis: did you try playing on facebook games?
[11:06] <crizis> no, but all video services work fine
[11:07] <duppy> no problems when playing youtube
[11:07] <morsnowski> is 11.10 still a supported version ?
[11:07] <morsnowski> and 11.04 for that matter
[11:07] <crizis> both are
[11:08] <crizis> 11.10 will be supported for another full one year
[11:08] <crizis> 11.04 for another 6 months
[11:08] <morsnowski> right
[11:08] <sirriffsalot> Supported here that is?
[11:08] <morsnowski> thanks
[11:08] <sirriffsalot> Or anywhere?
[11:08] <morsnowski> here
[11:09] <sirriffsalot> ok!
[11:09] <duppy> so what should i do? do i need to upgrade anything or what?
[11:09] <DJones> duppy: My wife plays facebook games on 12.04 using chrome/chromium and doesn't have any speed problems
[11:09] <crizis> duppy: did you try chrome? i assume firefox was one crashing?
[11:09] <sirriffsalot> DJones: No offence, but perhaps do without?:D
[11:09] <johnm> DJones: chrome (not the case for chromium) ships with a built-in flash player as I recall, even on linux.
[11:09] <duppy> DJones: so you think its maybe a driver failure?
[11:09] <duppy> crizis: both
[11:09] <codekK> hello all, can anyone help me? i have a continuos errors when i update to ubuntu 12.04 from 10.04, Ubuntu-classic with effects dont start and some apps crashes.. :S
[11:10] <johnm> crizis: check what version of the flash plugin you're using, the one from the repo is almost certainly using ndiswrapper
[11:10] <johnm> crizis: 32 or 64 bit install?
[11:10] <crizis> johnm: whatever 12.04 ships, and 64bit
[11:10] <meco> How can a scan an image file to render the text on it (OTC)? Is there such an application available with ubuntu?
[11:10] <crizis> got laptop with intel 3000 and desktop with radeon hd6870+proprietary driver, both work fine with flash
[11:11] <johnm> crizis: try removing the current plugin (from the repo) andf check its removed in about:plugins then install it from the adobe site directly - there is a native 64bit plugin
[11:11] <crizis> johnm: i'm not having any problems, duppy is :)
[11:11]  * morsnowski can't wait for flash to go away
[11:11] <johnm> if you wish, you can do it through the intall prompt in the browser
[11:11] <johnm> crizis: ah, not reading much of te backlog! duppy ^
[11:11] <Church> whatever plugin is used, be it 32bit or 64bit, they both will suck
[11:11] <duppy> hehehe
[11:11] <duppy> so what plugin to use?32bit or 64bit?
[11:11] <DJones> duppy: She had an issue about 2 months ago where it slowed down to a dead stop, I ended up deleting the flash cached data folder & since then its worked fine
[11:11] <johnm> if you're on a 64bit install with a 64bit browder, then 64bit
[11:12] <johnm> usually, it installs the 32bit plugin using ndiswrapper for 64bit compat in 64bit browsers
[11:12] <crizis> duppy: if you wanna try one more "easy" way, try chrome from googles repos (not chromium)
[11:12] <johnm> it used to be required, it no longer is
[11:12] <duppy> Djones: how to delete that?
[11:12] <crizis> duppy: i assume you thried chromium from software centre now?
[11:12] <duppy> crizis: yup chromiom from software center.
[11:13] <crizis> duppy: https://www.google.com/chrome/index.html try "real" chrome :) it ships with its own flash player
[11:13] <crizis> duppy: no need to uninstall current one
[11:13]  * Church has gave up on lagless flash video. old flash versions were capable of that, but back then audio often got out of sync or skipped/lagged. now it's video often lagging + announcement of no new linux flash versions usable in FF.
[11:13] <Gup> How do i spread application windows in 12.04?  I used to just click the active app icon in the launcher a second time in 11.10, this seems to no longer work!?
[11:13] <DJones> duppy: I followed this guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1495138 which went to the .macromedia folder in the home folder and then deleted the #Shared Objects folder
[11:14] <duppy> ok guys thanks
[11:14] <duppy> gonna try both
[11:15] <sary> Church: ever heard of Gnash ! ..
[11:16] <sary> Gup: there are new interfaces now , Unity and Gnome-shell .
[11:16] <Church> sary: free implementation? last time i tried it wasn't mature enough
[11:16] <Church> it was some time ago, haven't tried since
[11:16] <Church> + i wonder if it will work together with flashblock extention
[11:17] <codekK> hello all, can anyone help me? i have a continuos errors when i update to ubuntu 12.04 from 10.04, Ubuntu-classic with effects dont start and some apps crashes.. :S
[11:17] <codekK> i only can loggin at gnome-classic without effects
[11:17] <Gup> sary, so how do i use it?
[11:18] <Church> codekK: i always used without effects, so haven't even tried with them. do you really need those 3d effects?
[11:18] <codekK> no
[11:18] <codekK> but without effects run too slowly
[11:18] <codekK> and some apps crashes
[11:19] <codekK> :S
[11:19] <Church> sounds like something fscked up. i'd suggest clean install.
[11:19] <codekK> im writing at gedit and in few min crashes
[11:19] <sary> codekK: perhaps the upgrade process got interrupted somehow .. and your graphic card should be activated for those 3d effects.
[11:20]  * Church has upgraded from 11.04>11.10>12.04, and have no problems with gnome-classic without effects.
[11:20] <Church> intel integrated video though, no amd/nvidia
[11:21] <codekK> my graph is nvidia
[11:21] <Church> have you installed proprietary driver?
[11:21] <codekK> yes
[11:21] <Church> (after upgrade to 12.04?)
[11:21] <codekK> yes
[11:23] <sary> codekK: switch to a real console by pressing Ctrl+Alt+F1 .. then login with your user name and password . execute the commands sudo apt-get update
[11:23] <Church> hmm, i'd try changing initlevel to without gui dm, just console, run X session with startx and after crash check ~/.xsession-errors & /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[11:23] <bhearsum> does gnome-settings-daemon implicitly launch gnome-keyring-daemon?
[11:23] <sary> codekK: you can always go back to the X session with Ctrl+Alt+F7 ..
[11:25] <codekK> sary, yes i know it
[11:25] <codekK> but no updates to install
[11:25] <codekK> :S
[11:27] <codekK> i have two possible drivers for my nvidia card, 1. current version (recommend) or 2. update post-release (version current-updates)
[11:27] <codekK> what is the aproppiate
[11:27] <codekK> appropriate
[11:28] <sary> codekK: Right , sudo apt-get autoclean , sudo apt-get clean sudo apt-get autoremove , sudo dpkg -reconfigure -a , sudo apt-get --fix-missing install
[11:28] <codekK> ok
[11:28] <codekK> i go to do it
[11:28] <sary> codekK: sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:28] <sary> codekK: the recommand one is .
[11:28] <yeehaw> codekK: Make it sudo apt-get upgrade -y && apt-get dist-upgrade -y
[11:28] <morsnowski> now this maybe a stupid question but what exactly is the difference between gnome classical with and without effects and what effects are these
[11:29] <yeehaw> *sudo
[11:29] <codekK> morsnowski, compiz i think
[11:29] <morsnowski> how does it manifest itself
[11:30] <codekK> sudo dpkg -reconfigure -a <-- dont runt
[11:31] <codekK> yeehaw, and upgarde/dist-upgrade dont take effect, all packages is update
[11:33] <codekK> At details of my system the Graphics = Unknown
[11:33] <codekK> :S
[11:38] <morsnowski> ok so cube is installed and activated but how do i make it do this cube rotation thing
[11:41] <steveccc> can anyone recommend a distro / piece of software to create a linux based firewall/proxy server
[11:41] <MonkeyDust> !firewall
[11:41] <bohemian9485> steveccc: you can use damn small linux (dsl)
[11:42] <shomon> can anyone recommend some software to run a survey, like you'd do with google docs forms?
[11:42] <shomon> in ubuntu though
[11:42] <morsnowski> shomon as in setup a survey on your webserver?
[11:43] <WonderOne> Can anyone please help me to execute this file on Ubuntu 11.10: http://hackquest.com/modules/HackQuest/hacking/92745/stegano.zip
[11:43] <vfw> WonderOne: Unzip it first.
[11:43] <sary> Gup: i'd look at the document/wiki on how to use the new interface , for example i use Gnome-shell .. so i'll find more about it in http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/CheatSheet
[11:43] <WonderOne> Its giving a shared library error
[11:43] <WonderOne> Already unzipped.
[11:43] <vfw> WonderOne: What is it supposed to be?
[11:44] <WonderOne> vfw: Its a decoder for a certain steganography challenge from a challenge site HackQuest.com.
[11:45] <WonderOne> vfw: Its giving the following error: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[11:47] <nesusvet> Hello everyone. How I can see text boot mode instead of GUI text mode when I am starting boot installation menu?
[11:47] <nesusvet> Should I recreate an ubuntu image?
[11:47] <WonderOne> vfw: The original challenge page is here: http://hackquest.com/modules/HackQuest/hacking/92745/92745.php
[11:47] <shomon> morsnowski, yes, set up a survey on the web
[11:47] <shomon> is there a better place to ask this kind of thing?
[11:48] <WonderOne> vfw: Can you please help me?
[11:48] <morsnowski> shomon, what about survey monkey
[11:48] <vfw> WonderOne: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1517863
[11:49] <nvzn> how can I get these plugin-containers to stop eating my cpu when using flash?
[11:50] <e2b04836> stop using flash
[11:50] <WonderOne> vfw: The link on the page is a dead link. I've already tried it.
[11:51] <vfw> You might want to do a search:
[11:51] <vfw> sudo find / -name libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3
[11:52] <nvzn> e2b04836: are there better alternatives?
[11:53] <e2b04836> nvzn: i assume you're using firefox, try chrome it has slightly better flash support
[11:53] <Dr_willis> nvzn,  youtube can use html5
[11:53] <WonderOne> vfw: sudo find / -name libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 returns me to WonderOne@ubuntu:~$
[11:53] <nvzn> Dr_willis: what about games?
[11:53] <MonkeyDust> ah games
[11:53] <Dr_willis> nvzn,  good luck with that.
[11:53] <nvzn> e2b04836: I will try chrome, thanks
[11:54] <vfw> WonderOne: Ok.  You have verified that the file does not exist on your system.
[11:54] <WonderOne> vfw: No output.
[11:54] <vfw> WonderOne: sudo aptitude install build-essential
[11:54] <vfw> Try that  ^^^^^^
[11:54] <Narc> Ok, hello everyone, I need some help here, I can't for the life of me get a Ubuntu Install USB Key to boot on a friend's iMac... I tried a lot of howtos, to no avail. The best I achieved was to get rEFIt to see a Windows partition on which I copied the whole USB stick, but booting from it gives me a "Non system disk" message. Any help ? Thanks a lot
[11:54] <vfw> WonderOne: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:54] <Dr_willis> last i looked. aptitude was not installed by default. and i think its slowly getting deprecated...
[11:54] <fureger> hi
[11:55] <WonderOne> vfw: sudo aptitude install build-essential
[11:55] <Dr_willis> Narc,  how did you make the USB key?
[11:55] <WonderOne> No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
[11:55] <WonderOne> 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 377 not upgraded.
[11:55] <WonderOne> Need to get 0 B of archives. After unpacking 0 B will be used.
[11:55] <WonderOne> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[11:55] <WonderOne> E: Couldn't lock list directory..are you root?
[11:55] <vfw> Dr_willis: I know.. was typo.  Slip of the mind.
[11:55] <FloodBot1> WonderOne: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:55] <fureger> i have an issue with encrypted home directories and .pam_environment settings
[11:55] <fureger> apparently the file is not read
[11:55] <morsnowski> Narc, did you try to dd the image onto the stick?
[11:55] <vfw> WonderOne:  You already have apt running
[11:56] <vfw> WonderOne: Close the package manager and try again
[11:56] <Narc> Dr_willis: I tried with Startup Disk Creator on Ubuntu, I tried manually cloning the iso on Mac OS, I tried dd-ing the USB to the partition...
[11:56] <Narc> morsnowski: Yes I did
[11:57] <morsnowski> ok so cube is installed and activated but how do i make it do this cube rotation thing
[11:57] <vfw> WonderOne: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=952772
[11:57] <vfw> WonderOne: "I decided to run pSX with wine and it works very well, no need to install libraries"
[11:58] <ldz420> hi I just installed some unity packages and now the interface seems to be lacking visual affects
[11:58] <WonderOne> vfw: I only have X-Chat, Terminal and Firefox running. Nothing else. Still the same error. Do I need to close something else?
[11:58] <vfw> Yes
[11:59] <ldz420> does anyone know what which package it could be.. I can give a list of the unity packages that have been recently installed
[11:59] <WonderOne> vfw: pSX with wine? How can I get that. Sorry if I'm asking childish questions. Am absolutely new to LINUX.
[12:00] <Dr_willis> Narc,  odd that dd dident work. sounds almost like its not booting the right device. tried it on other pcs yet?
[12:00] <fureger> does anyone have a solution for the ecryptfs/.pam_environment issue?
[12:00] <lasher__> WonderOne, look for linux emu
[12:00] <Narc> Dr_willis: I checked on my laptop and it boots without any problem...
[12:00] <Dr_willis> morsnowski,  unity and the cube can cause issues..   i dont recall the cube activation hotkeys. the ccsm tool would show you.
[12:01] <Dr_willis> Narc,  id check the forums and askubuntu.com - could be some quirk/setting/tweak you need to do on the hardware side
[12:01] <WonderOne> vfw: In software center?
[12:01] <ikonia> Narc: this is a stupid suggestion, so I apologise in advance, but you are using the right key sequence on the mac to boot from usb,
[12:01] <Narc> Dr_willis: The best I get is a "Non system disk" or "No removable media" message
[12:01] <fureger> what settings in /etc/pam.d apply to the graphical login? I have checked /etc/pam.d/login and there the pam_environment module is required.
[12:02] <Narc> ikonia: I use rEFIt so I get to choose what to boot at each startup
[12:03] <ikonia> Narc: ok, suggestion, use the apple key sequence to boot directly from USB - just to see if you get any more interesting error messages
[12:03] <w3bg33k> I have a ubuntu server that is a VM (from turnkey linux) that currently has 2 CPU's.  I want to add another CPU, but can it handle 3 CPU's, or does it have to be 4?
[12:03] <Narc> Dr_willis: I tried a lot of these tweaks and howtos, I'm running out of options, that's why I'm here I guess :)
[12:03] <ikonia> w3bg33k: it can use 3
[12:03] <WonderOne> vfw: Cannot find Linux Emu in software center.
[12:03] <Narc> ikonia: The Apple key sequence doesn't show my USB key at all
[12:04] <Narc> ikonia: Except if it contains a Mac OS X install...
[12:04] <vfw> WonderOne: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:04] <Dr_willis> WonderOne,  try apt-cache search emulator
[12:04] <ldz420> never mind it look like something got messed up with my 3d acceleration.. I check it out later
[12:04] <fureger> Apparently my issue is known: https://bugs.launchpad.net/lightdm/+bug/952185
[12:05] <vfw> !build-essential
[12:05] <fureger> but it has not been resolved...
[12:06] <nvzn> e2b04836: is chromium-browser good enough?
[12:06] <WonderOne> vfw: sudo apt-get install build-essential  ----- Reading package lists... Done Reading package lists... Done  Reading package lists... Done  Reading package lists... Done
[12:06] <MonkeyDust> nvzn  it's my default browser, i'm happy with it
[12:07] <WonderOne> vfw: build-essential is already the newest version.
[12:07] <WonderOne> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 377 not upgraded.
[12:07] <nvzn> MonkeyDust: does flash make your computer overheat?
[12:07] <MonkeyDust> nvzn  no idea, so guess not
[12:07] <nvzn> cool
[12:07] <e2b04836> nvzn: chromium might do however you can get chrome at http://google.com/chrome
[12:08] <vfw> WonderOne: find / -name libstdc++-libc6*
[12:08] <nvzn> e2b04836: i'd like to keep it OSS if possible
[12:08] <nvzn> i realize flash isnt
[12:09] <vfw> WonderOne: Run the above command and see what you have.  It is possible that you will be able to symlink to the version that is required.
[12:09] <vfw> WonderOne: Show me what you have
[12:09] <WonderOne> vfw: find / -name libstdc++-libc6*  --------------- find: `/proc/790/task/790/ns': Permission denied
[12:09] <nvzn> oh my fans are dying
[12:09] <vfw> WonderOne: sudo find / -name libstdc++-libc6*
[12:09] <MonkeyDust> nvzn  http://www.youtube.com/html5
[12:10] <firefox88> Is there a wat to configure ubuntu tom use a Soundblaster X-fi notebook sound card instead of the crummy internal intel hda sound card?
[12:10] <Dr_willis> nvzn,  i belive Googles chrome has its own flash..  chromoim does not.
[12:11] <WonderOne> vfw: Returned me back to WonderOne@ubuntu:~$
[12:11] <WonderOne> vfw: sudo find / -name libstdc++-libc6* --------------- Returned me back to WonderOne@ubuntu:~$
[12:11] <Dr_willis> WonderOne,  so it dident find it..
[12:12] <MonkeyDust> WonderOne  try less characters, like libstdc* or so
[12:12] <nvzn> Dr_willis: o ok
[12:12] <vfw> WonderOne: sudo find / -name libstdc++-libc6*
[12:13] <vfw> WonderOne: sudo find / -name libstdc++-libc*
[12:13] <WonderOne> vfw: find / -name libstdc++-libc6* --------- Permission Denied again.
[12:13]  * Dr_willis has no idea why we are looking for libstdc....
[12:13] <vfw> WonderOne: sudo
[12:13] <Dr_willis> and locate would be faster. ;)
[12:13] <nvzn> i can't concentrate with this fan rattling
[12:14] <nvzn> bbl
[12:14] <vfw> WonderOne: find libstdc++-libc
[12:14] <Dr_willis> $ locate libstdc
[12:14] <Dr_willis> /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6
[12:16] <WonderOne> vfw: find: `libstdc++-libc': No such file or directory
[12:17] <vfw> WonderOne: is gettting "error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3"
[12:17] <MonkeyDust> WonderOne  why are you looking for libstdc?
[12:17] <vfw> Dr_willis: Do you have any advise?
[12:17] <steveccc> can anyone recommend the best tool to burn a .dsk file to a usb stick
[12:18] <vfw> Dr_willis: WonderOne has downloaded http://hackquest.com/modules/HackQuest/hacking/92745/stegano.zip
[12:18] <WonderOne> MonkeyDust: Need to execute a certain .ELF file on Ubuntu 11.10
[12:18] <MonkeyDust> what's a .elf file?
[12:18] <Dr_willis> if a game wants an older version of libstdc++ id say its not looking good for that game.
[12:18] <WonderOne> MonkeyDust: The file is giving shared library error.
[12:19] <Dr_willis> what version is it asking for anyway?
[12:19] <WonderOne> MonkeyDust & vfw: The readme of the file says ist been compiled under Slackware.
[12:20] <Dr_willis> I cant even get it to run on my 64bit system. ;)
[12:21] <Dr_willis> theres other stenograph type apps out there i belive
[12:21] <Dr_willis>  steghide - a steganography program
[12:22] <Dr_willis> !info steghide
[12:22] <killtrace> did any1 tested Backtrack 5 R2?
[12:22] <Dr_willis> killtrace,  this is not the BT channel.
[12:22] <WonderOne> There are. And I'v already tried most of them. But none worked for this challenge. This fils has been made by the developer of this challenge itself and is ment for this specific challenge.
[12:24]  * Dr_willis wonders how this is ubuntu support related.. :) 
[12:24] <Dr_willis> WonderOne,  look at the list of them. see what you want to play with, install it..
[12:25] <WonderOne> Shall I download Linux Emu from Google? Will it work for me?
[12:25] <Dr_willis> You could put slackware in a vbox install...
[12:25] <Dr_willis> No idea what 'linux emu from google' is...
[12:28] <alo21> hi all
[12:28] <alo21> I have a problem editing my ISO with Ubuntu Customizatio Kit
[12:28] <alo21> Can someone help me?
[12:29] <yeehaw> alo21: What seems to be the problem?
[12:29] <captine> hi all.  quick one.  connecting ext2 formatted external drive to ubuntu 12.04 machine and i cannot create any folders on it.  it is freshly formated but mounts as root
[12:29] <captine> is there a dumb user way to not have it mount as root
[12:29] <vfw> WonderOne: "I decided to run pSX with wine and it works very well, no need to install libraries" From:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=952772
[12:30] <alo21> yeehaw: look: http://paste.ubuntu.com/990566/
[12:30] <eutheria> is there a way to remove the show desktop from alt-tab?
[12:30] <yeehaw> captine: chown -R user:user /mnt/mountpoint
[12:30] <WonderOne> vfw: Thanks for the link. Will try it now.
[12:30] <captine> yeehaw.. thanks will try
[12:31] <yeehaw> alo21: Apperently you've created a symlink to a file that does not exist anymore
[12:31] <yeehaw> alo21: Your missing resolv.conf
[12:31] <yeehaw> alo21: What happens if you do: `cat /home/alo21/tmp/remaster-root/etc/resolv.conf'
[12:32] <yeehaw> alo21: brb
[12:33] <alo21> yeehaw: what should thi command do?
[12:33] <captine> yeehaw, worked.  thanks.  i was hoping for a non-terminal way.  difficult to get my wife to use ubuntu if terminal is needed at times
[12:33] <captine> :)
[12:33] <zumbarlal> hi
[12:33] <alo21> yeehaw: I did what here the answer says: https://answers.launchpad.net/uck/+question/195202
[12:34] <alo21> but I still have the problem
[12:35] <alo21> if I do: cat /home/alo21/tmp/remaster-root/etc/resolv.conf , the cursor goes a head
[12:35] <alo21> yeehaw: what do you suggest=
[12:35] <alo21> ?
[12:37] <ARTSIOM> here is my full conf file placed in /etc/init folder http://paste.org/49317 , but the app is still not starting on boot (but starting fine with "start app"). Am I missing smth?
[12:39] <killer> hi guys...i wanted my own login tune...so i replace desktop-login.ogg in "/usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/stereo" but sounds still not changed
[12:39] <killer> login sound i mean
[12:44] <ttl-> i recently run into a problem with 12.04
[12:45] <e2b04836> !ask | ttl-
[12:45] <ttl-> after recent updates i cannot set my bluetooth headset as input devive for
[12:45] <ttl-> the sound settings crash if i select my bluetooth headset
[12:47] <ttl-> After recent updates i'm not able anymore te select my blue-tooth headset as input device, sound settings crash if i select it
[12:50] <ttl-> After recent updates i'm not able anymore te select my blue-tooth headset as input device, sound settings crash if i select it, in /var/log/messages i see "gnome-control-c[3456]: segfault at 0"
[12:52] <ohad> hello
[12:56] <ohad> it seems that my 12.04 is suffering from this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluez/+bug/918906 altought I use a 64bit version of ubuntu. I see that it's a duplicate of a problem that was in  11.10 and  in 8.10 ( https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluez/+bug/280878 ). how come it keeps returning. and can I fix it in my laptop?
[12:57] <Narc> Sorry to ask again but I need some help here, I can't for the life of me get a Ubuntu Install USB Key to boot on a friend's iMac... I tried a lot of howtos, to no avail. The best I achieved was to get rEFIt to see a Windows partition on which I copied the whole USB stick, but booting from it gives me a "Non system disk" message. Any help ? Thanks a lot
[12:58] <psypher246> hi all, I have several issues that cause my entire desktop to crash and loose data frequently (almosts every day), I have logged 2 bugs about this 3 and 4 months ago respectively, during the precise alpha/beta stage and no one has even acknowledged that these bugs exist. How do I get developer attention to my bugs because as far as I am concerned they have fallen through the cracks. this is all related to the NEW multimonitor software designed by ca
[12:58] <psypher246> nonical
[12:58] <bimic> ciao
[12:59] <bimic> !list
[12:59]  * Sidewinder Sighs..
[13:01] <yandex8932> How does using !list imply warez... ubottu has daft message sometimes
[13:02] <DJones> yandex8932: Thats the normal irc command thats used in warez channels on other networks
[13:02] <w3bg33k> I need to copy files from my local linux system over to a windows share...but whenever I run "cp \\path\to\the\share -Rf", it ends up creating a local directory...how can I set this up so that I can move these files over to the share?
[13:03] <Rallias> w3bg33k you have to mount the share first
[13:03] <yandex8932> w3bg33k: read the samba manual
[13:04] <danix94> ciaoo
[13:04] <danix94> !list
[13:05] <trond-> probably a faq on this: Is there a way to stop network-manager to overwrite resolv.conf, or to set the values that I want in some config-file. Ubuntu 10.04.
[13:05] <llutz> trond-: edit your nm-connection and set dns there
[13:06] <trond-> llutz, except that it then also get some other dns servers and domain-search parameters. I can't see where those are coming from though.
[13:07] <sqwaw> qq regarding networking in 12.04 server. My networking doesn't seem to get configured on boot and I have to manually 'sudo dhclient eth0 eth1'. How can I make this happen on boot?
[13:07] <llutz> trond-: check /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/*  and maybe your dhclient.conf
[13:08] <trond-> sqwaw, you don't want dhcp on a server do you?
[13:08] <sqwaw> no my switch runs dhcp
[13:08] <sqwaw> as a hacky workaround, i've put dhclient in my bashrc, but obviously thats no good for non-interactive logins
[13:09] <trond-> sqwaw, try - in /etc/network/interfaces file: iface eth0 inet dhcp
[13:09] <Aethelred> Upgraded from 9.10 to 10.04 (Lucid), x86_64. Having video issues. Running Nvidia 8800GTS. Symptoms: resizing some things (a terminal window, for example) results in a temporary hang. Once app windows are up I can click in one to select it, but alt-tabbing to switch results in another short (5-15 second) hang - mouse won't move, etc. It seems to happen with anything that involves animation. Lots of screen-redraws are wonky. I get weird fra
[13:10] <yandex8932> Aethelred: Did you have the properietary drivers installed before your upgrade?
[13:10] <w3bg33k> Rallias - tyvm
[13:10] <sqwaw> trond-: ahhh yes, it was configured static, thanks!
[13:11] <Aethelred> yandex8932: I believe so, but (and this is embarrassing) I can't be sure.
[13:11] <Aethelred> yandex8932: The driver is listed in repos. Synaptic shows it.
[13:12] <BlueWolf> Hello please could some one tell me what the support channel is for Ubuntu OpenOffice.org ( Word Processor )?
[13:12] <yandex8932> Is it listed in the proprietary drivers manager? If so, I'd try uninstalling it, then re-installing the latest driver once you've rebooted
[13:12] <razvan86> hi guys
[13:13] <Guest72472> Hi all, i am trying to build kermit from source, can anyone tell me why i get this error http://pastebin.com/VwEmsxct
[13:13] <yandex8932> Guest72472: You need to install Miss Piggy
[13:13] <Aethelred> yandex8932: ok. How do I go about uninstalling it? Should I do that via Synaptic?
[13:13] <razvan86> i use ubuntu 12 with gnome 3.4.1 ... but i couldn't integrate pidgin and i am sick of the useless "message tray" so i am reverting to Unity ...
[13:13] <razvan86> but i like the evolution applet
[13:13] <Guest72472> yandex8932, what?
[13:13] <razvan86> how can i get it in unity ?
[13:14] <yandex8932> Aethelred: Not sure if that will reconfigure your x.org appropriately if you do it that way. I'd look in the proprietary drivers manager (under admin->system or something I think) first
[13:14] <sqwaw> trond-: doesn't seem to configure the interfaces still :( are there other places i should be looking?
[13:14] <yandex8932> Guest72472: It was a joke. Kermit the frog. Miss piggy.
[13:14] <Guest72472> ok..why do i get that crypt error?
[13:15] <trond-> sqwaw, are they up, or are they not up - and are they getting some values, or no values?
[13:15] <yandex8932> Guest72472: At a guess, you don't have the appropriate libraries installed which it's expected, hence "undefined reference" blah blah
[13:16] <razvan86> i need unity and evolution ...
[13:16] <razvan86> :(
[13:16] <Aethelred> yandex8932: I can't find a proprietary drivers manager. There is an "NVIDIA X Server Settings" tool in system->admin. That shows the driver version that is also shown in Synaptic
[13:16] <yandex8932> Guest72472: Do you have the curses library installed for example
[13:16] <Guest72472> but where do i get those libraries?
[13:16] <BlueWolf> Hello please could some one tell me what the support channel is for Ubuntu OpenOffice.org ( Word Processor )?
[13:17] <mmmmm> 1
[13:17] <yandex8932> Guest72472: Install via synaptic. You can see from the make file it's linking to curses for example, so you need the "dev" package of curses to get the library files I think
[13:18] <geduo> hellkp
[13:18] <fidel_> geduo: hell or help? ;)
[13:18] <Aethelred> yandex8932: How can I tell for sure which driver is being used?
[13:19] <yandex8932> Aethelred: Sorry, it's called System->admin->hardware drivers in the menu, that's where your installed graphics driver might be listed
[13:19] <MrKeuner> hello, synaptic suggests auto-removal of several packages. Can I trust it?
[13:19] <OerHeks> BlueWolf, you are in Ubuntu support, and for open office  join #openoffice.org here on freenode
[13:19] <MrKeuner> precise here
[13:20] <razvan86> hi ... does anyone know how to integrate evolution in the unity desktop environment ?
[13:20] <Aethelred> yandex8932: thanks. Looking now.
[13:20] <razvan86> i am thinking about the calendar applet present in gnome
[13:20] <yandex8932> MrKeuner: Yes, if the package was still being used by another bit of software, it wouldn't be able to remove it
[13:20] <razvan86> ?
[13:20] <BlueWolf> OerHeks: I know where I am :D I just wanted to know the #openoffice.org
[13:20] <BlueWolf> Thanks
[13:20] <MrKeuner> yandex8932, thank you
[13:20] <fidel_> MrKeuner: usually yes
[13:20] <BlueWolf> OerHeks: Thank you kind soul
[13:21] <yandex8932> razvan86: No idea. Gnome Shell integrates with Evolution through the calendar though...
[13:21] <razvan86> i know ... i am using that now ... but in gnome-shell i don't have rhythmbox and pidgin integration
[13:21] <razvan86> and the "message tray" bar is useless
[13:22] <yandex8932> razvan86: Lol, you want everything :P Have you tried the gnome shell extensions website?
[13:22] <yandex8932> razvan86: I think there's a pidgin extension
[13:22] <razvan86> i tried the tweaks ..
[13:22] <razvan86> yeah ... but it still does not behave like unity ...
[13:22] <fidel_> razvan86: what are you looking for?
[13:23] <razvan86> the tray of unity is brilliant
[13:23] <yandex8932> razvan86: It's fairly simple to write an extension if it doesn't do what you want, only a few hundred lines often
[13:23] <razvan86> it only misses evolution-PIM integration into the calendar applet
[13:23] <razvan86> but i just migrated from windows 2 weeks ago :-s ....
[13:24] <Aethelred> yandex8932: ok, that was helpful. That also has a "remove" option. What can I expect to happen when I remove it? Specifically, will I get a desktop when I reboot?
[13:24] <razvan86> my greatest achievement is trying to compile a patch ...
[13:24] <razvan86> and fail ...
[13:24] <yandex8932> Aethelred: It should cleanly remove the driver and reconfigure your x.org. But yes, it is a little worrying...
[13:24] <Guest72472> yandex8932, yes it is installed
[13:25] <MrKeuner> fidel_, yandex8932 there are like 175 packages listed under autoremove which made me scared
[13:25] <yandex8932> MrKeuner: Could you put the list in a pastebin?
[13:25] <yandex8932> MrKeuner: Did you remove something which left trailing files or something? Or have you upgraded?
[13:25] <MrKeuner> yandex8932, how can I list them?
[13:26] <Aethelred> yandex8932: "a little worrying"   Well, no hand-holding I guess. I'm off to jump into the deep end.
[13:26] <MrKeuner> yandex8932, installed precise beta then anly did dist-upgrade since couple weeks
[13:26] <fidel_> MrKeuner: 175 isnt that much - basically it depends on what you added & removed in the past & how often you clean up
[13:26] <yandex8932> MrKeuner: If you're worried, just leave them. It's not going to have any ill effect on your computer besides taking up a little space
[13:26] <fidel_> i.e. i do run: 'sudo apt-get autoremove' from time to time
[13:27] <fidel_> yep - there is no need to do so - on the other had - there is usually really no need to worry as long as you dont remove packages accidently and answer dependcies question without knowing the answer
[13:27] <yandex8932> Aethelred: As always, make sure you have anything important backed up :P
[13:28] <MrKeuner> yandex8932, fidel_ all right, thank you for the insight
[13:28] <Aethelred> yandex8932: thanks  :)
[13:29] <fidel_> MrKeuner: in case you are new to linux & apt & willing to play more with it without having to much fear -> consider setting up a small linux vm inside your linux box to have a playground
[13:29] <fidel_> helps usualy pretty well fighting starter-fears
[13:32] <spotted> hi ppl
[13:32] <MrKeuner> yandex8932, fidel_ here is hte list for your information: http://pastebin.com/3jUV4TjC
[13:32] <cesarstafe> hi people, my Ubuntu 12.04 sometimes complains agains a Python complement that is not present to support some streaming sound. In fact, I can't hear some online radio that I used to listen frequently before... this is the error message 'Python (v2.7) necesita instalar complementos para permitir la siguiente característica multimedia: Elemento typefind de GStreamer'
[13:32] <spotted> someone here are using the neu version of ubuntu?
[13:33] <fidel_> spotted: 12.04?
[13:33] <spotted> yeah
[13:33] <fidel_> MrKeuner: tons of libs - but without knowing what you do & use in detail on that box such a list isnt that helpful
[13:33] <cesarstafe> but this complement is not present in repositories maybe because allways this makes a try to download the complement and nothing happens
[13:34] <fidel_> spotted: 12.04 is stable since some weeks - several inhere are using it
[13:34] <fidel_> !anyone > spotted
[13:34] <cesarstafe> any idea about how to solve that?
[13:35] <spotted> portugu»es?
[13:35] <MrKeuner> fidel_, yeah I was also puzzled seeing these libraries but trusted apt. I'll see what happens soon :)
[13:35] <spotted> i have a problem with my usb ports in new ubuntu
[13:36] <deww> hey guys. i just upgraded to 12.04 and noticed that the Launcher (the vertical bar?) shows up on both of my monitors. Is there a way to disable on one of them completely?
[13:36] <deww> when i move my mouse across monitors, it "sticks" for a bit on the second and it's really annoying
[13:36] <spotted> you can hide them
[13:36] <MrKeuner> fidel_, thought may be ubuntu decided to change a major component such as from alsa to something else
[13:36] <fidel_> !pt > spotted
[13:37] <cesarstafe> my question again if somebody can help me with that... 'my Ubuntu 12.04 sometimes complains agains a Python complement that is not present to support some streaming sound. In fact, I can't hear some online radio that I used to listen frequently before... this is the error message 'Python (v2.7) necesita instalar complementos para permitir la siguiente característica multimedia: Elemento typefind de GStreamer', but this complement is not present in repos
[13:37] <BluesKaj> spotted, run , sudo update-usbids
[13:37] <fidel_> MrKeuner: as mentioned above - learning apt is pretty helpful - having a playground for it to test/play/learn can help
[13:38] <kurtwp_> deww: Goto your display and look for Sticky edges and turn it off
[13:38] <cesarstafe> how can I get those GStreamer complements?
[13:38] <fidel_> thats why i avoid gui-based app-interfaces as well
[13:38] <fidel_> *apt-interfaces*
[13:38] <seiryu89> Someone know if a trackpad of a computer can do multitouch gestures with uTouch?
[13:38] <Rallias> fidel_, that's why I still have synaptic installed :D
[13:38] <deww> kurtwp_: the Displays control panel or is it somewhere else?
[13:39] <kurtwp_> deww:
[13:39] <kurtwp_> deww: yes
[13:39] <fidel_> Rallias: for not learning it? ;)
[13:39] <deww> i dont see it :/
[13:39] <MrKeuner> fidel_, I was assuming synaptic is pretty is decent. And apt-get autoremove removed the same number of packages as synaptic listed.
[13:39] <BluesKaj> spotted, then run lsusb to confirm all your usb ports are enabled
[13:39] <kurtwp_> deww: you went to system setting -> displays
[13:39] <Rallias> fidel_, I've learned how to use apt-get for the most part, I just prefer synaptic because it provides a graphical way for me to hunt down bogus packages I don't need.
[13:40] <deww> yep. and it's showing up as "Laptop" for the display mode.
[13:40] <fidel_> ;)
[13:40] <VictorCL> I keep receiving an email with this on the body : [: 15: Illegal number: 60 * 60 * 12
[13:40] <deww> AH
[13:40] <deww> kurtwp_: i see it now. doh. thanks :D
[13:40] <VictorCL> Cron <root@tresipunt-opencms>   [ -x /usr/lib/php5/maxlifetime ] && [ -d /var/lib/php5 ] && find /var/lib/php5/ -depth -mindepth 1
[13:40] <spotted> i'm using the stable version of ubuntu 12.04, but i have problems with my usb ports
[13:41] <BluesKaj> Rallias, bogus packages ?
[13:41] <MrKeuner> spotted, are you sure your hardware works?
[13:41] <designbybeck> Where might fonts be stored other than /usr/share/fonts and /home/username/.fonts ?
[13:41] <spotted> yes
[13:41] <Rallias> BluesKaj Well, not a case where I would use synaptic, but too often I get a VPS and sendmail/apache2 are preinstalled.
[13:41] <spotted> in windows don't have any problems
[13:41] <designbybeck> I move over from Kubuntu to Ubuntu and I am missing some fonts?
[13:41] <MrKeuner> spotted, usb system died first in my last two laptops
[13:41] <rysh> Hi, i just installed a few programs and they were automatically added to the left unity bar, but hovering over them shows "waiting to install" ... who knows what they are waiting for? :-) (i can just start them so they are already installed)
[13:41] <spotted> but with ubuntu
[13:41] <intore> hi, i've problems using pam_mount. i can't mount the user home directory from the server to client at login time. Someone knows about this argument please?
[13:42] <spotted> for example i'm using a mouse and in one moment all the ports turned off
[13:42] <spotted> and i cannot put nothing there because don't detect
[13:42] <MrKeuner> spotted, windows usually does not warn that much as Linux does
[13:42] <BluesKaj> spotted, did you see my post in reply to your question ?
[13:42] <spotted> oh no
[13:43] <spotted> can you put again plz
[13:43] <BluesKaj> spotted, run , sudo update-usbids
[13:43] <BluesKaj> spotted, then run lsusb to confirm all your usb ports are enabled
[13:43] <spotted> now is working but this don't appear all times
[13:45] <spotted> blueskaj this thing are normal?
[13:45] <BluesKaj> spotted, check your usb cable to the mouse ...it may be defective
[13:46] <OerHeks> spotted do you have Usb2 and Usb3 on your machine?
[13:46] <spotted> yes
[13:46] <spotted> is a laptop
[13:46] <spotted> Toshiba Satellite P750-103
[13:46] <spotted> all ports for example the mouse don't work and pendrives to
[13:47] <designbybeck> oh. I might have found a clue.... I do have other fonts I have download to the download folder, but when I install them from there by opening and clicking install. where does it save those?
[13:48] <ram19890> How to configure Conky ?
[13:48] <spotted> designbybeck search in home directory
[13:49] <designbybeck> i did copy over all the /usr/share/fonts and /home/username/.fonts spotted
[13:49] <spotted> hum
[13:49] <ceed^> ram19890: http://www.wikihow.com/Configure-Conky
[13:49] <Rallias> ram19890 in the home directory, create a .conkyrc file. Google for example configurations.
[13:49] <designbybeck> i am just trying to figure out then I "Installed" these others, where did it put them so that I can make sure they get backed up and put back in the system next time?
[13:50] <ram19890> thanks guys
[13:53] <yandex8932> designbybeck: in .fonts or /usr/share/fonts I'd think. Just do a grep for fonts on your system to find other font directories if you're missing certain ones
[13:54] <designbybeck> Thank you yandex8932 I did find it and installed it, but I just don't know why when I copied it over those didn't come as well
[13:54] <Cyonx> May be an odd question for this channel, but I honestly like unity, and I don't understand why it gets such a bad reputation. 12.04 is the first time I've used it however, was it really bad in 11.10? Have I just not run into it's problems yet? I'm honestly curious.
[13:55] <designbybeck> like when you open a font in the font viewer and click Install....where does that install to? and/or what all else happens? likes to a file or indexes it?
[13:55] <fidel_> Cyonx: its partly a historic thing -as unity is replacing the well-known gnome and breaks some ways how i (the deskop) worked in the past
[13:55] <OerHeks> Cyonx, you are one of the lot without problems, congrat! ( *me too)
[13:55] <fidel_> the unity-approach works for some of us - not for others
[13:56] <fidel_> as always -changes are not welcome to everyone ;)
[13:56] <Cyonx> I wouldn't say i'm entirely without problems. I've had to fix a few things, and I still can't figure out why some programs will show up on the unity launcher bar the first 5 or 6 times I launch them, and then never again until I reboot (gotta use superkey-w to find the running program)
[13:56] <Cyonx> but overall the interface structure is quite pleasant imo
[13:57] <lrojas> hi all, i want to install vim on ubuntu 12.04, i have googled but have not found the answer to my question, what is the basic diference between the diferent flavors of vim available on the repository and wich one should i install to be used with unity?
[13:57] <fidel_> Cyonx: well then - enjoy it and skip the useless discussion others might do over that topic ;)
[13:57] <MrKeuner> fidel_, I am sure unity is a good program, but I like going with the standard. I won't always use ubuntu. I may change to Debian at some point, or to redhat. I would prefer to be able to use the same tools accross different distributiouns
[13:57] <Cyonx> but then, I had even worse problems with cinnamon on LM, and just as many problems with gnome2 under 9.04
[13:57] <fidel_> Cyonx: the nice part is still: everyone can choose what he is using
[13:57] <yeehaw> lrojas: Just install vim
[13:58] <fidel_> MrKeuner: i dont use it either - but i dont see a point in discussing user-specific preferences in detail - as it will most likely not help or change something ;)
[13:58] <MrKeuner> true
[13:58] <yeehaw> lrojas: If you're used to that there will not be a different vi clone that will work as you expect
[13:59] <intore> anyone can help me?
[13:59] <Cyonx> Isn't unity based on gnome? shouldn't gnome programs run under unity and vice-versa? are they different enough that you need to compile seperate versions of programs/tools?
[13:59] <fidel_> !aynone > intore
[13:59] <Narc> Sorry to ask again but I need some help here, I can't for the life of me get a Ubuntu Install USB Key to boot on a friend's iMac... I tried a lot of howtos, to no avail. The best I achieved was to get rEFIt to see a Windows partition on which I copied the whole USB stick, but booting from it gives me a "Non system disk" message. Any help ? Thanks a lot
[13:59] <lrojas> sudo apt-get install vim, just installs vim.basic
[13:59] <fidel_> !anyone > intore
[13:59] <OerHeks> Cyonx, unity runs under Gnome3
[14:00] <Cyonx> see that's what I thought. I've recently played with several different distros, all running either gnome2 or gnome3, and the tools look virtually identical in my experience.
[14:01] <OerHeks> Cyonx, you can try ubuntu + gnome-shell too
[14:01] <OerHeks> !nounity
[14:01] <phunyguy> o.O all of my applications are missing from the unity Dash...
[14:02] <phunyguy> and when i hit alt-f2, it cant find any executables
[14:02] <phunyguy> i swear i didnt do anything to cause this
[14:02] <phunyguy> little help?
[14:03] <Qalqi> yo peoples, if i have to remote login on my desktop, should i logout on my system before?
[14:03] <Qalqi> i am using xrdp protocol?
[14:03] <yeehaw> phunyguy: If you open a terminal and type an application name does it start?
[14:04] <phunyguy> yes.
[14:04] <phunyguy> just unity is confused for some reason.
[14:05] <yeehaw> phunyguy: What happens if you run: unity --reset-icons in terminal
[14:05] <phunyguy> what does --reset-icons do before I do it?
[14:06] <phunyguy> sounds dangerous.
[14:06] <yeehaw> phunyguy: reset the Unity Launcher icons to default
[14:06] <phunyguy> its not a launcher iddue.
[14:06] <yeehaw> phunyguy: You might need to rearrange them a bit
[14:06] <phunyguy> issue*
[14:06] <phunyguy> its a daashboard issue.
[14:06] <phunyguy> the launcher icons are perfect.
[14:06] <yeehaw> phunyguy: aah
[14:07] <intore> fidel_, am sorry, i wrote my question before and i was asking if anyone knows something about
[14:07] <yeehaw> phunyguy: Could you check if unity-place-applications and unity-place-files are installed?
[14:08] <intore> fidel_, this is my question: hi, i've problems using pam_mount. i can't mount the user home directory from the server to client at login time.
[14:09] <onats> is there a good gui manager for xen on ubuntu?
[14:09] <Qalqi> this channel is shit
[14:09] <Qalqi> no one replies at all
[14:09] <fidel_> elaborate > intore
[14:09] <chu> Qalqi: Just have some patience man. Not everyone knows your exact problem, wait til someone comes online who can help.
[14:09] <phunyguy> Qalgi, language, and also the channel is always very full.
[14:10] <fidel_> !elaborate > intore
[14:10] <phunyguy> !patience | Qalqi
[14:10] <chu> Breaking the channel's rules is not a smart way of getting help in any case.
[14:10] <DJones> Qalqi: I never used to logout of my desktop when I using vncviewer to log into the desktop
[14:11] <fidel_> in case you ever see issues getting help in irc-  consider reading this howto: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html Qalqi - its pretty helpful to be honest
[14:13] <Narc> Sorry to ask again but I need some help here, I can't for the life of me get a Ubuntu Install USB Key to boot on a friend's iMac... I tried a lot of things, to no avail. The best I achieved was to get rEFIt to see a Windows partition on which I dd the whole USB stick, but booting from it gives me a "Non system disk" or "isonlinux.bin missing" message. How can I copy the install image to a partition to boot from ? Any help ? Thanks a lot
[14:14] <intore> fidel_, am sorry again. i can't mount the user's home directories from the ldap-samba server (amahoro) on the clients at login time. I installed pam_mount but the configuration is not correct i think or something about directory permissions. I want that the user home directory in /users/username on the server will be mount on the client on /home/username. this is pam_mount.conf: http://paste.debian.net/169091/ and this is the command-output after login: ht
[14:14] <intore> tp://paste.debian.net/169089
[14:14] <phunyguy> yeehaw: fwiw, rm ~/.local/share/zeitgeist/activity.sqlite fixed my issue.  zeitgeist was out to lunch.  Just ran that and "unity --replace" and it's golden.
[14:15] <yeehaw> phunyguy: ok, good to know
[14:16] <J11_> Is it possible to apt-get install as non-root in a local directory?
[14:18] <yandex8932> J11_: Yes, Ubuntu has root disabled by default
[14:18] <sunbird> hey folks. i need to nuke my evolution user files in 12.04 because i can't delete any messages (program freezes). i've tried removing the folder in .config/ and .cache and .local but it still has my account setup on startup.
[14:18] <LjL> J11_: not really, i don't think. you can unpack the .deb manually if you want to have it in a dir
[14:18] <sunbird> (used to just delete ~/.evolution but they moved the files in 12.04)
[14:19] <yandex8932> sunbird: I think synaptic tells you all the locations a bit of software stores its config files
[14:19] <waaaaaaaaaaaaah> is there a gui for update-rc.d?
[14:20] <yeehaw> sunbird: Can't you just apt-get purge evolution
[14:20] <J11_> LjL: when I ./configure a package it says i need gtk+2... if i download those sources it needs 5 more packages...
[14:20] <intore> fidel_, is it more clear now? have you never seen a similar scenario?
[14:21] <sunbird> yeehaw: tried that. doesn't work. or, the problem remains on reinstall.
[14:21] <LjL> J11_: uh, tried "apt-get build-dep packagename" to get the dependencies it wants?
[14:21] <sunbird> very annoying as i cannot delete any messages.
[14:21] <J11_> I was hoping you could run apt-get like cpan in a local folder and skip the dependacy hell
[14:21] <kriestof> Hi my printer (HP laserjet 1018) had stopped printing after dist-upgrade. I get error - "/usr/lib/cups/backend/hp failed".
[14:22] <zooz> is it possible to disable the behaviour which for example after "ssh-server" package is installed it starts the service automatically?
[14:22] <J11_> LjL: it also says permission denied
[14:22] <sunbird> yandex8932: that will show me the files installed by the package. i'm looking for the config files for my user.
[14:23] <LjL> J11_: yes, you need root for it. but it will install the needed packages without you having to hunt them one by one... not sure if that's what you want, i don't entirely get your goal
[14:23] <smee> hey guys and girls, anyone here having issues with flash not working ? i've tried every trick i can think of and flash is still not working. i've reinstalled it, removed it completely, reinstalled it with flash helper, daily updates for last month... etc .... any last ideas before i wipe / reinstall the os?
[14:24] <J11_> LjL: installing all dependacies but tied in with prefix and path together
[14:24] <LjL> J11_: apt cannot do that
[14:25] <J11_> what about aptitude?
[14:25] <LjL> J11_: i just don't think the way .deb packages are set up allows that
[14:26] <esmirlin> cómo puedo abrir "aplicaciones al inicio" desde la terminal¿?
[14:26] <LjL> !es | esmirlin
[14:26] <esmirlin> upps sorry
[14:26] <esmirlin> :S
[14:26] <esmirlin> I was thinking it was the spanish group
[14:26] <esmirlin> :S
[14:27] <esmirlin> how can i launch (startup applications) from the terminal?
[14:27] <VirtualBlackness> smee I have never had a problem with apt-get install --reinstall flashplugin-installer
[14:27] <quixotedon> esmirlin: type sudo name of application (in short)
[14:27] <smee> i've done that with cold boots between
[14:27] <craigbass1976> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/system-config-printer/+bug/987212  Where can I get more info on this?  I'm having the same problem, except that it didn't start until yesterday and this box got 12.04 a couple weeks ago.
[14:28] <VirtualBlackness> where is flash failing?
[14:28] <esmirlin> quixotedon: this is the problem, i don't know how is it called :S
[14:28] <quixotedon> esmirlin: example sudo firefox
[14:28] <quixotedon> :)
[14:28] <smee> flash items embedded in webpages just don't load.
[14:28] <LjL> quixotedon: err, what?
[14:28] <smee> using ubuntu.
[14:28] <smee> or rather firefox on ubuntu.
[14:28] <kriestof> craigbass1976: I have same on my hp laserjet 1018
[14:29] <VirtualBlackness> smee: did you have firefox open when you reinstalled? Because that causes problems.
[14:29] <craigbass1976> kriestof, did it start as soon as you got 12.04, or wait a while?
[14:29] <LjL> quixotedon: that's not the way you start an application from the terminal, unless it actually needs to be root - and firefox certainly doesn't. you just type the name of the command, with no "sudo".
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[14:29] <K1rk|Work> I am currently running Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS, on System > Administration > Printing, if I go to Server > Connect I can enter in a remote cups server, and all the printers appear there.  Is there any way to make this connection permanent, and enable applications to print to these remote printers?  I would like to avoid a situation where printer management becomes a local problem, I'd love to have one CUPS server that everyone connects to, so printers are centrall
[14:29] <esmirlin> quixotedon: don't find it :(
[14:29] <kriestof> craigbass1976: Yes, after dist-upgrade it says all the time it's 'processing'.
[14:29] <quixotedon> LjL: hahaha the sudo is already in my first word :)
[14:30] <VirtualBlackness> smee: Once more, just for grins, close everything down, sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get instlall --reinstall flashplugin-installer
[14:30] <esmirlin> i'm in a spanish ubuntu, can you please chek it in yours if you have the enlgish version?
[14:30] <smee> i'll try it. i'll try anything at this point. my woman isn't happy the media box isn't working.
[14:30] <OerHeks> bug 1000000
[14:30] <quixotedon> LjL: maybe you can give esmirlin a list of some most used apps name in short?
[14:30] <craigbass1976> kriestof, huh...  That makes more sense than it working for a while, then stopping for no apparent reason.  I don't remember doing an update Monday, and it quit yesterday while I was gone.
[14:31] <VirtualBlackness> Very familiar problem smee... very.
[14:31] <LjL> quixotedon: to be honest i'm not sure i understand what esmirlin actually wants to do
[14:31] <smee> VirtualBlackness: brb 2 secs. i should be able to keep xchat open, right?
[14:31] <quixotedon> LjL: doesn't esmirlin want to open an app through terminal? That's what i can think of.. :)
[14:31] <esmirlin> LjL: i want to launch "startup applications" from the console
[14:32] <VirtualBlackness> I don't believe it is flash based, but have never used so I do not know smee.
[14:32] <smee> VirtualBlackness: gotcha... closing everything down. brb
[14:33] <LjL> esmirlin: type "gnome-session-properties"
[14:33] <esmirlin> thanks!
[14:36] <Aranel> after 12.04 upgrade now my plasma-desktop crashes with "Error message was:  "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply" : " "Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)" "
[14:36] <Aranel> "
[14:37] <sirriffsalot> Hey! Whenever JACK is active youtube videos refuse to play, and I have the libflashsupport-jack set up... Any ideas?
[14:37] <action09> hi #ubuntu :)
[14:38] <sirriffsalot> Hey!
[14:38] <action09> here a paste of my sources.list, http://paste.ubuntu.com/990764/, when i try do do an upgrade it say that installing packages from repo not authenticated... i dunno why .. virtualbox is the only repo i added..
[14:38] <action09> is it that one you think ?
[14:39] <sirriffsalot> action09: sudo apt-get update?
[14:40] <MonkeyDust> action09  execute that command with -v precise so we can see other distro's sources
[14:40] <MarKsaitis> https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/postgresql.html states tha twhen u install postgresql from official repos, config files are in /etc/postgresql/ . Its all empty!!!!! The guide is wrong
[14:40] <MarKsaitis> HELP
[14:40] <action09> sirriffsalot  1st time of my life that i do updates with the gnome icon system parameter on the upper right corner.. let's see if it's the same with manual : aptitude update && aptitude full-upgrade
[14:41] <ikonia> MarKsaitis: screaming "HELP" won't really get you anything but ignored
[14:41] <action09> sirriffsalot obviously manual update don't display the same error.. :)
[14:41] <craigbass1976> kriestof, going through cups (in a browser, http://localhost:631) and picking different URI seems to have fixed it.  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups/+bug/877958
[14:41] <sirriffsalot> action09: pretty new to linux myself, probably understood the question wrong:)
[14:42] <kriestof> craigbass1976: Thanks, I'll try in minutes.
[14:42] <action09> sirriffsalot no pb: just got an alert with the graphical update and no more alert with text-based ... weird .. thanks anyway :)
[14:42] <MarKsaitis> well, I explained the issue didnt I
[14:42] <MarKsaitis> how can it be
[14:42] <action09> MarKsaitis https://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/funny-pictures-cat-needs-help.jpg
[14:42] <action09> :)
[14:42] <craigbass1976> kriestof, I was trying to change it in the GUI, but it seemed to get changed back
[14:42] <sirriffsalot> action09: okay!
[14:43] <MarKsaitis> anyways, the guide is wrong.... and what do I do next
[14:43] <MonkeyDust> action09  MarKsaitis please, no such links in this channel
[14:43] <sirriffsalot> Was there a irc channel for the JACK audio server?
[14:43] <w3bg33k> I just mounted a windows share, but it came up as read-only.  how an I change that to read/write?
[14:43] <sirriffsalot> audio connection kit* rather
[14:43] <MarKsaitis> MonkeyDust, clean the dust from ur eyes and you will notice that I didnt post any links
[14:44] <action09> MonkeyDust lolcat is not relevant so ok sorry didn't knew that humour was banned :)
[14:44] <bingtan> Is anyone there?
[14:44] <VirtualBlackness> w3bg33k: I would unmount it, and run chkdsk windows side... see that the volume is clean.
[14:45] <MarKsaitis> help is banned here as well
[14:45] <quixotedon> action09: better send it as a pm not in public
[14:45] <quixotedon> :)
[14:45] <pablo_> how can u tell upstart to not start cupsd anymory, i tired update-rc.d but it didn't work?
[14:45] <bingtan> Is anyone able to help me with a deleted partition problem I'm having?
[14:45] <pablo_> s/tired/tried/
[14:46] <sirriffsalot> Whenever there is talk of XXXXX development libraries, in this case ALSA and JACK development libraries, will this always mean "jack-dev" or "alsa-dev"?
[14:47] <VirtualBlackness> pablo you tried: update-rc.d -f <cups script> remove    ?
[14:47] <bingtan> help?!?!
[14:47] <mneptok> action09: may i PM?
[14:47] <sirriffsalot> Or "libjack-dev"?
[14:47] <sirriffsalot> bingtan: oh sure
[14:47] <sirriffsalot> bingtan: don't ask to ask is the rule here I think, just ask:)
[14:47] <sirriffsalot> bingtan: I've burned myself so many times with partitioning, I'll try to help. what's the problem?
[14:48] <pablo_> VirtualBlackness, i did "sudo update-rc.d cups remove"
[14:48] <pablo_> it keeps stating anyway
[14:48] <MonkeyDust> !recover| bingtan
[14:48] <pablo_> starting*
[14:48] <pablo_> the same thing with mysqld
[14:48] <VirtualBlackness> pablo_: throw the -f in there and do again
[14:48] <bingtan> Hi, thanks for replying. Just installed Ubuntu on my friends laptop, using the alternative installation. Was assuming it would partition the hard disk, but it hasn't and has wiped the entire hard disk to just leave Ubuntu. Is there any way of recovering data from the WIndows 7 install, even though it doesn't exist now?
[14:49] <pablo_> did ubuntu move away form sys-v ?
[14:49] <ikonia> bingtan: it's gone
[14:49] <a_c_m_> anyone a wizard at working how how init files work. Trying to set config options for "stud", but there is 0 docuemntation
[14:49] <ikonia> bingtan: it only wiped the disk because you told it to use the whole disk / didn't select partition options
[14:49] <K1rk|Work> bingtan: Not really any way that's worth the effort.
[14:49] <ikonia> pablo_: a long time ago, it moved to upstart
[14:50] <Captain_Proton> anyone know of a good opensource it manage software? One that has Vendor phone book, it system password, and ticket system.
[14:50] <pablo_> i though upstart worked with the same commands as sys-v
[14:50] <VirtualBlackness> bingtan: I would use windows tools to recover the partition.
[14:50] <ikonia> pablo_: no, it's a different init system
[14:50] <action09> mneptok sure
[14:50] <pablo_> ikonia, how do u use it?
[14:50] <MarKsaitis> WHERE DO I TELL TO SAY THAT UBUNTU OFFICIAL SERVER GUIDE FOR 12.04 IS WRONG?! It even refers to 8.4, whereas 12.04 uses 9.1 . The guide is absolutelly useless. Whoom do I tell?
[14:50] <Aethelred> I need Compiz help. Recently upgraded to 10.04 (Lucid) x86_64. I have 4 desktops. I was previously able to switch desktops by driving my mouse to the right side of the monitor and moving the mouse wheel forward (or back) to move to a different desktop. That no longer works. Where are the settings to control this behaviour?
[14:51] <pablo_> ikonia, i'm just tring to stop startng a service and i can't
[14:51] <bingtan> even if the partition was wiped essentially?
[14:51] <ikonia> pablo_: how are you trying to do that ?
[14:51] <sirriffsalot> bingtan: ouch, you're in trouble
[14:51] <ikonia> !upstart > pablo_
[14:51] <pablo_> ikonia,  "sudo update-rc.d cups remove"
[14:51] <VirtualBlackness> bingtan: Yes... try Active Partition Recovery
[14:51] <sirriffsalot> bingtan: only thing you can do now is deliver the hard disk to companies that get payed well to try and recover data
[14:52] <MarKsaitis> what on earth are you thinking?! U didnt warn me. Come down. I am trying to tell somebody that the guide is wrong
[14:52] <ikonia> pablo_: so that should remove the the service from startup,
[14:52] <MarKsaitis> and I thin kthat is good
[14:52] <bingtan> it's a shame as ubuntu was meant to be a positive experience, but loosing the files has caused more problems than anything
[14:52] <Captain_Proton> Aethelred, you need to install ccsm and add that option in there
[14:52] <pablo_> VictorCL, i tried -f, doeesn't work eitgher
[14:52] <sirriffsalot> bingtan: did you read carefully? I bet you didn't mate
[14:52] <ikonia> MarKsaitis: if you have found a bug with a document, log a bug in launchpad.net detailing it
[14:52] <ikonia> MarKsaitis: it will get assigned to the documentation / web docs team and get resolved once it's been validated
[14:52] <pablo_> ikonia, it doesn't work
[14:52] <VirtualBlackness> bingtan: the installer only does what you tell it to do. Don't blame the OS because you overwrote your partition.
[14:52] <sirriffsalot> bingtan: it comprehensively informs you with huge buttons what is going to be done:)
[14:52] <ikonia> pablo_: define doesn't work
[14:52] <pablo_> it keeps starting anyway
[14:52] <sirriffsalot> bingtan: but I understand your anger mate, let it out, haha:)
[14:53] <ikonia> pablo_: I see, I wonder if there is anything in the guide on this
[14:53] <MarKsaitis> why cant I log it thru irc? why does it need to be so painful? is that not good enough I checked it and found it? I dont know anything about launchpad
[14:53] <bingtan> Haha, in the alternative installer it doesn't really make it clear, from a newb's point of view ;)
[14:53] <ikonia> pablo_: https://help.ubuntu.com - worth checking if something has changed in the service
[14:53] <Aethelred> Captain_Proton: What is ccsm? Did I have it in 9.04 (Karmic) and have now lost it? I don't mind installing something new, but I'm skeptical that I need a new thing to retain behaviour I already had.
[14:53] <ikonia> MarKsaitis: that is the process, please follow it
[14:53] <ikonia> MarKsaitis: visit launchpad.net create an account, log the bug
[14:53] <pablo_> ikonia, it so frustrating if the changed something so basic
[14:53] <sirriffsalot> bingtan: alternative installer?
[14:53] <pablo_> s/if/when
[14:54] <MarKsaitis> ikonia, how long will it take for such bug to be fixed?
[14:54] <ikonia> pablo_: the init system has been progressing/developing since the initial change
[14:54] <DeathKnight> hi, how can i add other input methods in precise? I dont see options like I used to see in Lucid!
[14:54] <MonkeyDust> MarKsaitis  there are procedures to follow
[14:54] <MarKsaitis> ok
[14:54] <bingtan> i mean the alternative disk, i used the ubuntu daily image
[14:54] <ikonia> MarKsaitis: depends on the attention it gets and the quality of the information you put in the bug
[14:54] <ikonia> bingtan: why did you do that
[14:54] <ikonia> bingtan: the daily image is an unstable build
[14:54] <w3bg33k> VirtualBlackness - the volume's definitely clean...I was using an account that has domain admin rights, and when that didn't work, i opened the directory up to everyone w/ full control (I know, bad security, but just testing).
[14:55] <bingtan> i thought with 12.04 out of the door the daily build would of stabalised... :(
[14:55] <sirriffsalot> bingtan: Once again you failed to read carefully, always backup before partitioning anyway
[14:55] <Captain_Proton> Aethelred, compizconfig-settings-manager Something must have install or change the setting in it
[14:55] <pablo_> ikonia, anyway i want to do somehing so basic as don't start cupds anymore
[14:55] <DeathKnight> I cn't see any input methods except chinese in "keyboard input methods" :(
[14:55] <pablo_> and i can't
[14:55] <sirriffsalot> bingtan: well now you know better:D How much data have you lost anyway?
[14:55] <sk1special> okay. i accidently hit one of the f keys when looking at something online and my ff windows now goes like..super full screen and the menu bar and all that goes away. how do i turn that back off?
[14:55] <pablo_> and aparently nobody else does
[14:55] <VirtualBlackness> w3bg33k: chkdsk doesnt take a long time. Try it.
[14:55] <ikonia> pablo_: check the docs I linked to, see if something has changed
[14:55] <pablo_> how the hell that happend
[14:55] <pablo_> ?
[14:55] <ikonia> pablo_: it happens as the distribution moves on / develops
[14:55] <VirtualBlackness> w3bg33k: it is by far the most common reason.
[14:56] <Aethelred> Captain_Proton: Thank you for explaining. How can I tell if I already have it?
[14:56] <pablo_> ikonia, the is not much documentation at the link u gave me, i very basic if u are an admin, do i have to unistall it to stop it?????
[14:57] <Aethelred> Captain_Proton: I see that I do have CCSM
[14:57] <sirriffsalot> A guide on getting libflash working through jack tells me I need "basic software development package"... what is this more precisely?
[14:57] <Aethelred> Captain_Proton: Which particular settings am I looking for?
[14:57] <missuse> anyone can explain this ? Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1) AppleWebKit/535.19 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/
[14:57] <ikonia> pablo_: there is a ton of information on that page, and it's not basic if you are an admin and know how to read / search for the information you want
[14:57] <Captain_Proton> Aethelred, I beleive that setting in desktop wall or desktop cube
[14:57] <ikonia> missuse: in what way explain it ?
[14:57]  * Aethelred checks
[14:57] <missuse> why windows nt 6.1 and applewebkit
[14:57] <Captain_Proton> Athanasius, it been awhile since I play with that stuff thou
[14:58] <sontek> in ubntu LTS in icons mode of nautilus I can't click on directories or files
[14:58] <sontek> I have to be in list view
[14:58] <MonkeyDust> missuse  where does that line come from?
[14:58] <sk1special> captain didnt they disable the cube?
[14:58] <lusuhard> hello to anyone, i have a working kernel for a ubuntu 11.10. can I inject it into a Xubuntu or ubuntu 9.10?
[14:58] <lusuhard> or 10.10
[14:58] <missuse> monkeydust , from a visitor
[14:59] <Captain_Proton> sk1special, in 11 and on yes but you can enable it if you like
[14:59] <MonkeyDust> lusuhard  if you don't know, then you shouldnt
[14:59] <ikonia> missuse: it's just a html user agent tag
[14:59] <MarKsaitis> ikonia, on registration confirmation launchpad.net says Invalid OpenID transaction
[14:59] <ikonia> lusuhard: you can't do that
[14:59] <MarKsaitis> in a big white page..... ftw is wrong with all this clutter
[15:00] <sk1special> ahh. is it stable tho? ive got the screen saver as a backgroun d thing working thru xscreensaver ..and i wanted to do a cube version..but it took forever to get my nvidia working correctly
[15:00] <ikonia> MarKsaitis: create an account and login to that account
[15:00] <MonkeyDust> missuse  apparently it was a visitpr who uses win NT
[15:00] <MarKsaitis> ikonia, i did create and then tried to bverify and this is what I got
[15:00] <missuse> ikonia why windos and applewebkit go togther  ?
[15:00] <ikonia> missuse: it's nothing to do with ubuntu
[15:00] <ikonia> missuse: so nothing to do with this channel
[15:00] <lusuhard> theorically...??
[15:00] <ikonia> MarKsaitis: have you got an email confirming your account has been created ?
[15:00] <MarKsaitis> ikonia, anyways, managed to get thru somehow
[15:01] <MonkeyDust> missuse  better ask in ##windows
[15:01] <MarKsaitis> I did. Its fine now, ehn I did manual login instead of this automatic redir
[15:01] <MarKsaitis> ikonia, when im in, where do I create this bug
[15:01] <missuse> 99 percent of freenode chatroom are lock
[15:01] <Captain_Proton> sk1special, I think so Ubuntu employs the only compiz dev. But I do not use so.. give it a try if you don't like it disable again
[15:02] <Aethelred> Captain_Proton: I see it now. Desktop Wall is enabled (Cube is not enabled). My bindings seem to already be set correctly (Move Left - <RightEdge>button4). But the behaviour isn't working.
[15:02] <MonkeyDust> missuse  you have to register your nickname
[15:02] <ikonia> !bug | MarKsaitis
[15:02] <ikonia> MarKsaitis: sorry, that was the wrong factoid
[15:02] <MarKsaitis> ?
[15:03] <Captain_Proton> Aethelred, what is button 4?
[15:03] <MarKsaitis> ubuntu-bug
[15:03] <ikonia> MarKsaitis: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[15:04] <Aethelred> Captain_Proton: I believe that to be Mouse Button 4 (wheel-up and wheel-down are 4 and 5)
[15:04] <ikonia> MarKsaitis: there you go, that's the right url, sorry
[15:05] <Captain_Proton> Aethelred, so basicly you are saying when I am it @ the right edge and hit button4 += move left
[15:05] <Aranel> after 12.04 upgrade now I'm unable to start plasma-desktop, could anyone help me?
[15:05] <luwei> join #backtrack-linux
[15:05] <Captain_Proton> Aethelred, i would reset the binding that are givein you problem and see if that helps
[15:06] <Aethelred> Captain_Proton: Yes. Move to the next desktop (viewport?) left ... or next right for mousewheel the other way.
[15:06] <Aethelred> Captain_Proton: Will try. Thank you.
[15:06] <morsnowski> if i hold down the mouse wheel i get to rotate 'the window' but it is like turning a sheet rather than a cube, how do i make it a cube ?
[15:06] <sirriffsalot> Could someone tell me what the exact name of the current alsa development libraries is?
[15:08] <MonkeyDust> nbpk6413
[15:08] <Captain_Proton> morsnowski, install compizconfig-settings-manager and change the setting in there
[15:09] <morsnowski> what setting, i've turned on the cube, dektop cube and cube gears
[15:09] <MonkeyDust> sirriffsalot  fastest is if you looked in synaptic, search for alsa
[15:09] <sirriffsalot> MonkeyDust: I have, for so many different things.. but I get confused as to what is what, and I can't find the alsa package either...
[15:09] <Captain_Proton> morsnowski, did you assign key bindings?
[15:09] <sirriffsalot> Is it the "alsa-lib" or "alsa-dev"? Either way I can't find them
[15:10] <morsnowski> well no  but like said i get it to turn, but it shows as a flat pane with two sides
[15:12] <Captain_Proton> morsnowski, sorry misunderstood you need to add two more desktops. you running 12.04
[15:13] <morsnowski> yes i do, i have now 4 workspaces activated
[15:14] <luwei> help
[15:15] <Captain_Proton> morsnowski, strange it flips like a piece of paper when only there 2 desktops. do you have dual monitors?
[15:16] <morsnowski> nope just single one
[15:16] <MonkeyDust> luwei  go ahead, help how?
[15:17] <sk1special> does dual monitors affect that somehow?
[15:18] <Captain_Proton> morsnowski, well if it was me, I would remove the two desktops and read them. Maybe something in gconf messed up.
[15:19] <sirriffsalot> Any ideas on this error message? W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/artfwo/ppa/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
[15:19] <knowj> Anyone a bit of a wizard with SSH keys/logins got what should be simple new user/auth setup driving me insane?
[15:20] <Captain_Proton> not really but it make it look really funky. also in 11 & 12 people may think they have 4 desktop because the way the screen is layout. Just ruling that out.
[15:21] <bieb> I have heard I can do a session rollback to use the old desktop instead of unity, how does it work?
[15:21] <bazhang> !notunity | bieb
[15:22] <MonkeyDust> nbpk6413
[15:22] <knowj> I created a new user, generated a new RSA key, appended the PUK to /home/<user>/authorized_keys, downloaded the PK chmod 600 then get the following error when I try to login at the new user (Clean Ubuntu 12.04 installation): http://pastebin.com/nas7xzhZ
[15:22] <MacroMan> How can I connect to a VPN via the command line? I can connect fine from the network manager applet, but I want to be able to open the connection via a bash script.
[15:23] <bieb> bazhang: is it the same for 12.04? I thought I has seen somewhere that you apt-get gnome-session-fallback  I haven't been able to confirm that though
[15:24] <MacroMan> I've been googling for a solution, but all I can find is out of date stuff that worked on Ubuntu 8 and 9, but doesn't work on 10.04
[15:24] <OerHeks> sirriffsalot, delete that PPA, there are no PP 12.04 packages >>> https://launchpad.net/~artfwo/+archive/ppa
[15:24] <sirriffsalot> OerHeks: PP packages?
[15:24] <OerHeks> sirriffsalot, yes PP 12.04
[15:24] <sirriffsalot> OerHeks: how can this be? I haven't added any repositories...
[15:25] <bieb> !classic
[15:25] <OerHeks> sirriffsalot, you did.
[15:25] <MacroMan> !notunity
[15:27] <MacroMan> Does anyone know the terminal command to open a VPN connection?
[15:28] <qubuntu> Ubuntu always has a blank black screen whenever I "Log out". If I move the mouse it doesn't do anything, I have to force shutdown and restart. It's pretty annoying, anyone know why it does that? I don't ever log off anymore, I just shutdown. But I want to fix this problem!
[15:28] <llutz> MacroMan: read "man nmcli"
[15:28] <Captain_Proton> MacroMan, openvpn or pptp?
[15:29] <Hans_Henrik> does ubuntu 12.04 LTS 32bit livecd system contain both libntfs (or something to read ntfs filesystems) and truecrypt?
[15:29] <MacroMan> Captain_Proton: PPTP.
[15:29] <Dr_willis> Hans_Henrik,  it has ntfs support.
[15:29] <Dr_willis> Hans_Henrik,  no idea on truecrypt.
[15:29] <Hans_Henrik> thanks Dr_Willis
[15:30] <MacroMan> llutz: I've tried nmcli, but I get nmcli: command not found
[15:30] <llutz> !find bin/nmcli
[15:30] <llutz> MacroMan: should be installed with network-manager
[15:30] <MacroMan> I already have network-mamanger because I've managed to set up the VPN in the first place
[15:31] <Captain_Proton> MacroMan, have you look at this http://pptpclient.sourceforge.net/howto-ubuntu.phtml
[15:32] <llutz> MacroMan: thats why i pointed you to nmcli, it can handle those connections (nmcli con     to list all connections available)  check your installation why nmcli isn't found.
[15:32] <MacroMan> Captain_Proton, that's for Ubuntu 7.1!
[15:32] <llutz> MacroMan: "lsb_release -sc"
[15:32] <Captain_Proton> MacroMan, still the same
[15:33] <MacroMan> llutz: That gives me 'lucid'
[15:33] <Bill-Buchanan> hey, I got a question, I installed Xubuntu, switched to Unity and now my notifications are in XFCE-style and won't hide automatically - how do I reset them?
[15:34] <MacroMan> Captain_Proton: I've read something similar, it talks about configuration, but I've already configured it, i just need the command to open the connection, which it doesn't say what it is
[15:34] <xapel> I have a virtual machine running windows 98 on ubuntu 12.04 host. I use the vm for a game that I want to play in multiplayer against someone else over the internet. If I run two virtual machines on the same host I can do it, but how do I do it with other virtual machines running on other hosts over the internet. Do I need a VPN? If so, how do I go about setting that up?
[15:34] <llutz> MacroMan: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1678256
[15:35] <Captain_Proton> MacroMan, in the Configuration, by hand part half way down the page pon is the command
[15:36] <MacroMan> I've tried pon, but it keeps telling me that it can't find a config file. Do I really need to configure the VPN again via terminal only?
[15:36] <Captain_Proton> MacroMan, yes the gui holds it info in sqllite db I think or seahorse I can not remember
[15:37] <MacroMan> Captain_Proton: Ah OK. I'm just checking out this link about nmcli that lutz gave me
[15:38] <nydel> i've a laptop & a hdmi out - is there a way to make them behave as two different workspaces rather than as one long workspace?
[15:42] <Dr_willis> nydel,  you can run 2 seperate X sessions, one per each monitor.. but ive never really needed to do that.  why do you want to?
[15:42] <Dr_willis> nydel,  its not the same as 2 workspaces.. its 2 'desktop sessions;
[15:43] <nydel> Dr_willis: i'm watching tv on one & working on the computer on the other
[15:43] <Dr_willis> nydel,  with a tv program on the pc?
[15:43] <nydel> media files in vlc fullscreen
[15:43] <Dr_willis> nydel,  so... why not just drag it over to the 2nd monitor?
[15:43] <nydel> but all my windows keep popping up in the middle of the combined space so it's super inconvenient
[15:44] <duckxx> so this is getting anonying... i have to constantly do cd ../../../../../  is there a way where i can just click on the path and it will just goto the directory without all those cd's
[15:44] <Dr_willis> You got nvidia gfx card?
[15:44] <nydel> i don't even know, it's some hp laptop i inherited
[15:44] <Dr_willis> Mi dialogs/windows pop up in the middle of my primary monitor. using nvidia+Twinview enabled.
[15:44] <nydel> that's what i want to happen Dr_willis
[15:45] <xapel> I have a virtual machine running windows 98 on ubuntu 12.04 host. I use the vm for a game that I want to play in multiplayer against someone else over the internet. If I run two virtual machines on the same host I can do it, but how do I do it with other virtual machines running on other hosts over the internet. Do I need a VPN? If so, how do I go about setting that up?
[15:45] <nydel> in fact that's the only problem, dialogs & programs popping up in the middle of the workspace, not the middle of the primary display
[15:45] <Dr_willis> xapel,  what virtual machine you using?
[15:45] <VadtecWk> I have a lenovo desktop with an on-board intel video card running the i915 driver... the box is hard locking and I suspect its the video driver, none of my google foo has lead to anything useful, has anyone in here had a problem with on-board intel video hard locking a box when running 12.04?
[15:45] <alayola> hi, when installing ubuntu on my netbook i had to go with the minimal install (not by choice but because of a 3 year old ubuntu bug i win't bother tou with), now which packet do i have to get in order to have a basic inity desktop with regualr funnctunalityes like sound, print and autologin? I believe i could go with ubuntu-desktop, but frankly i dont really need the whoel default install
[15:46] <Dr_willis> alayola,  if you have a low end machine. you may want to use lubuntu/lxde
[15:46] <obelus> alayola: ubuntu-desktop should bring it all in if you want unity.
[15:46] <wendico> hello, what nice alternative to dreamweaver do i have for ubuntu?
[15:47] <MonkeyDust> wendico  kompozer is the closest, but in my experience, it does not even come *close* to dreamweaver
[15:47] <Dr_willis> bet it dosent come close in price either. ;)
[15:47] <alayola> no the machine is fine, but i do have network linitations, is there any way to install only a basic desktop envirenment, without thunderbird/office/etc, a but like th businees remix ?
[15:47] <wendico> thank you
[15:48] <Dr_willis> alayola,  you could alwyas start installing packages  till you are happy..  or go lazy and install one of the whatever-desktop meta packages
[15:48] <duckxx> so this is getting anonying... i have to constantly do cd ../../../../../  is there a way where i can just click on the path and it will just goto the directory without all those cd's
[15:49] <obelus> I'd probably start with ubuntu-desktop and then just remove thunderbird and libre-office
[15:49] <wendico> what about just a nice simpler code editor for harder coding html5, php and scripting?
[15:49] <duckxx> how is ubuntu web server vs others ?
[15:49] <Onixs> any good burning app?
[15:50] <Tjololo12> I have to make a VM that's as small as possible. No real data to store, just needs to be able to run a lightweight program...How large should I make the disk? IE How much space does ubuntu take up?
[15:50] <DJones> !burning | Onixs A few to chose from here,
[15:51] <GabrieleV> Hello, I'm having troubles with package installing. Bad signature mismatching like this http://pastebin.com/DzWf1ikS. Is is a my own issue, or someone else is suffering it in italy ?
[15:51] <sogeking99> hey guys. I clicked the upgrade button for 12.04 and it did all the steps, up to the actual installation, before clean up and restart. It crashed during install
[15:51] <Captain_Proton> duckxx, Night commander. apache vrs apache is the same
[15:51] <obelus> Tjololo12: If you don't want to run anything else except one program, I'm pretty sure Ubuntu fits fine in a 5Gb with a bit of room to spare, but I'd usually go with 8. Most VM software lets you have 'dynamic disks' though, so you could set it large (16+GB) and it would only expand for the space it needed
[15:51] <sogeking99> I rebooted and now I can't boot Linux at all. it takes me to a black screen and I have to press CTRL + D to go back to the boot select.  I tried recovery mode and tried repairing broken packages and fail safe mode.
[15:51] <duckxx> Captain_Proton, how do i search for night commander in the command line
[15:51] <Tjololo12> Thanks obelus
[15:51] <duckxx> apt-get search ?
[15:52] <intore> Hi, hope someone could help me. i rewrite my question. i can't mount the user's home directories from the ldap-samba server (amahoro) on the clients at login time. I installed pam_mount but the configuration is not correct i think or something about directory permissions. I want that the user home directory in /users/username on the server will be mount on the client on /home/username. this is pam_mount.conf: http://paste.debian.net/169091/ and this is the
[15:52] <intore>  command-output after login: http://paste.debian.net/169089
[15:52] <alayola> Dr_willis:  ok thanks, thats what I'll be doing then, but if anybody know if there is something like ubuntu-desktop-minimal or ubuntu-businees-desktop by another name that i've missed let me know please
[15:52] <Captain_Proton> duckxx, yes
[15:52] <crappycomputerow> hi can anyone help me with making a startup disk?
[15:52] <Captain_Proton> duckxx, it like and old DOS menu system
[15:52] <GabrieleV> crappycomputerow, What's the problem ?
[15:52] <VirtualBlackness> intore: check out autofs5
[15:53] <xapel> Dr_WIllis: Virtualbox
[15:53] <obelus> Tjololo12: I usually use Oracle's VirtualBox, it's pretty good and it has dynamic disks. VMWare does too, but virtualbox is free.
[15:53] <obelus> .
[15:53] <intore> am using pam_mount, do you think is better using pam_mount?
[15:53] <obelus> Sorry. Cat stood on my keyboard.
[15:53] <Dr_willis> xapel,  virtualbox has network settings where your vm gets an ip on the local lan just like a real machine could. You can then port forward or watever to it.
[15:53] <Captain_Proton> duckxx, sorry it midnight commander
[15:53] <duckxx> Captain_Proton, oh but thats not wat i want.. i dont want a gui replacment of the terminal. but i just want to find a faster way to navigate thru folders without having to do cd ../../../
[15:53] <crappycomputerow> the problem is i have downloaded the iso using transmission when i got to make the disk and put the iso on the usb from the downloads folder it wont go
[15:54] <sirriffsalot> flashsupport.c:184:28: fatal error: linux/videodev.h: No such file or directory compilation terminated.        What does this tell me to do...?
[15:54] <Dr_willis> midnight commander - is handy. :)
[15:54] <intore> VirtualBlackness, am sorry, autofs?
[15:54] <Tjololo12> obelus: yeah, but virtualbox needs some major fenangling to make virtual machines that are compatible with vmware products. And, my work gives me vmware license XD It was just a PITA to install and get running.
[15:54] <Dr_willis> sirriffsalot,  you may need some videodev 'dev' packages.  but that may be a kernel dev package also.. hard to tell/
[15:54] <Dr_willis> !find videodev.h
[15:55] <VirtualBlackness> intore: I prefer mounting things on the fly as needed. autofs mounts at i/o request. Look into it.
[15:55] <Dr_willis> sirriffsalot,  try libv4l-dev ;)
[15:55] <sirriffsalot> Guess I'll try and remove try and remove
[15:55] <obelus> Tjololo12: Ah, lucky. Anyway, yeah, you can just use dynamic disks, so you shouldnt have to worry about getting the space just right, just leave it at the default size VMWare has for ubuntu and you should be fine
[15:55] <crappycomputerow> i dont have to extract the file or anything first do i , or program rather
[15:55] <sirriffsalot> Already have libv4l-dev hehe
[15:55] <obelus> Anyway, I'm going to sleep. 4 hours till I have to get up lol. Good luck!
[15:55] <sogeking99> can anyone help me?
[15:55] <crappycomputerow> how to get iso on usb ?
[15:55] <MonkeyDust> sogeking99  start with a question
[15:56] <VirtualBlackness> !usb | crappycomputerow
[15:56] <sogeking99> I did, but i'll post again
[15:56] <sogeking99> hey guys. I clicked the upgrade button for 12.04 and it did all the steps, up to the actual installation, before clean up and restart. It crashed during install
[15:56] <MacroMan> OK. I've managed to get nmcli installed and working. I've tried connecting by doing 'nmcli con up VPN1', but it says I need to use the id or uuid of the connection. How do I find out what the id or uuid of the connection is?
[15:56] <sogeking99> I rebooted and now I can't boot Linux at all. it takes me to a black screen and I have to press CTRL + D to go back to the boot select.  I tried recovery mode and tried repairing broken packages and fail safe mode.
[15:56] <ikonia> sogeking99: re-install
[15:56] <GabrieleV> !usb
[15:56] <Tjololo12> obelus: mmk cool, thanks. I had forgotten about the dynamic disks...My boss wanted it to be 1GB, but I wasn't sure if ubuntu could do that.
[15:57] <llutz> MacroMan: nmcli con up id VPN1
[15:57] <sogeking99> ikonia: you mean like a clean install?
[15:57] <ikonia> sogeking99: correct
[15:57] <sogeking99> ikonia: but I have a lot on the drive to lose
[15:57] <llutz> MacroMan: "id" is the name of the connection, uid the long hex-string
[15:58] <Dr_willis> crappycomputerow,  the pendrivelinux web site has alternative tools and guides on gettingthe iso to boot from a usb.
[15:58] <Boj> hi
[15:58] <obelus> Tjololo12: ... uh.... I don't think it can install that small. Even my lucid VM which I've installed almost nothing on is 2.8GB
[15:58] <MacroMan> llutz: Ah, genius. Works perfect. Thank you so much
[15:58] <llutz> MacroMan: np
[15:58] <Captain_Proton> duckxx, olny other way I can think of learn short cuts http://www.skorks.com/2009/09/bash-shortcuts-for-maximum-productivity/ or script some shorthand stuff http://eriwen.com/bash/effective-shorthand/
[15:58] <VirtualBlackness> sogeking99: boot to live disk, move the data you need to another source, reinstall
[15:59] <sogeking99> ok thanks
[16:00] <glebaron> Having a problem removing freenx-server. Everything is gone except for freenx-session-launcher, but when I type "apt-get remove --purge freenx-session-launcher," it fails with the following error:chmod: cannot access `/usr/bin/nx-session-launcher-suid': No such file or directory  dpkg: error processing freenx-session-launcher (--purge):
[16:00] <Dr_willis> data worth having.. is worth backing up :)
[16:01] <Tjololo12> obelus: yeah, I kinda figured that lol...that's why I came in here to figure out how small is the smallest...but I had forgotten about the dynamic disks
[16:01] <kyubutsu> how could you have so much data in it when it was a 'fresh install' so quickly, where this data came from anyway...
[16:05] <JonEdney> This is going to sound noobish, but I'm still a noob for this advanced Linux stuff.  How do I install a program?  It came in a .tar.gz and is full of .so files.
[16:06] <ikonia> JonEdney: what are you trying to install ?
[16:06] <JonEdney> pyLiveResponse
[16:06] <JonEdney> For work.
[16:06] <sirriffsalot> JonEdney: Go to ubuntu software center and install unzip, or do sudo apt-get install unzip
[16:07] <JonEdney> I already have that.
[16:07] <sirriffsalot> JonEdney: Once you've done that you can right-click the file and open something called "archive manager" and click "extract"
[16:07] <ikonia> JonEdney: there should be a "README" or INSTALL file within the tar file
[16:07] <akshay> JonEdney: there must be an install or make file along in it right?
[16:07] <ikonia> JonEdney: the INSTALL or README file will detail how to install it
[16:07] <ikonia> if it's coming with .so files already, it's precompiled, so it should just be a matter of moving them into the right places
[16:07] <sirriffsalot> Let's see if he can extract the files first:d
[16:08] <ikonia> sirriffsalot: he's already said he can, that's how he knows there are .so files in there
[16:08] <sirriffsalot> Oh lol
[16:08] <sirriffsalot> sorry:)
[16:08] <sirriffsalot> Aah install
[16:08] <sirriffsalot> Geez, my bad
[16:10] <kyubutsu> programs in compressed format as such usually only need unzipping, no?
[16:10] <Dr_willis> Normally one dosent use precompiled binaries from archives. :)
[16:10] <Dr_willis> its an archive. yoy extract all the files to a directory, then run the app from that dir. normally.
[16:10]  * kyubutsu nods
[16:10] <g3orge> hey guys. I just wanna install Ubuntu in my MBP (w/o Mac OS X) and I want to know if I need a special edition or something, for that weird EFI bootloader... thanks.
[16:11] <qubuntu> Ubuntu always has a blank black screen whenever I "Log out". If I move the mouse it doesn't do anything, I have to force shutdown and restart. It's pretty annoying, anyone know why it does that? I don't ever log off anymore, I just shutdown. But I want to fix this problem!
[16:11]  * european-guy hi
[16:12] <Dr_willis> qubuntu,  next time - try alt-ctrl-f1 and see if you can get to the console. :) - i recall a simile rissue ages ago with some drivers. I recall using a 'always restart x server' setting in GDM. not sure if lightdm has the same setting.
[16:12] <morsnowski> who can help me make my pane into a cube ?
[16:12] <kyubutsu> qubuntu: does it behave like this on every reinstall attempt?
[16:13] <JonEdney> There is no readme or install file, all .so files
[16:13] <Dr_willis> morsnowski,  if you are trying to get unity working with the compiz cube. i recall the webupd8 or omgubuntu! blog site having a guide on that topic once.
[16:13] <Dr_willis> JonEdney,  so extract everything to a dir. run the binary.. hope it works.
[16:13] <JonEdney> Alright
[16:14] <kyubutsu> isn't .so linux drivers? there should be a .sh file [executable] in there if it is a complete program
[16:14] <phunyguy> is there a way using network-manager to keep a vpn connection connected when the network becomes active? I see there is an option to "Automatically connect" but it is obviously ignored because I always have to connect manually.
[16:14] <Dr_willis> .so are library files.
[16:14] <Dr_willis> and there could be an actual executable binary
[16:14] <morsnowski> well i got it working to a degree, i now have a pane with two sides that i can look at from all sides and it turns quite nicely but like said like sheet of paper with two sides but not a cube
[16:15] <Dr_willis> morsnowski,  use ccsm to make more desktops perhaps.
[16:15] <Dr_willis> under the general tab in ccsm i belive is the # of desktop settings
[16:15] <morsnowski> yes done that but i set it 4 and 6 byt no joy either
[16:15] <morsnowski> let me have another look
[16:15] <Dr_willis> morsnowski,  id say check the forums and askubuntu.com then. perhaps set the # then log out/back in. Ive seen ccsm not take some changes on the fly.
[16:16] <Dr_willis> CUBE - the eyecandy plugin you use to impress your windows friends.. then turn off when they leave so you can get real work done......
[16:16] <Dr_willis> ;)
[16:16] <morsnowski> Dr_willis, yes you are right I'm bored
[16:17] <Dr_willis> the Cube plugin has been known to break unity badly
[16:17] <Dr_willis> some ccsm settings can also break unity
[16:18] <tomasm-> hi, is there a way to utilize 'drawers' on the sidebar tray in unity, so related apps can be grouped together and not clutter up the top level so much?
[16:18] <kyubutsu> "keep it simple..." all i need is alt-tab
[16:18] <qubuntu> Dr_willis I did alt-ctrl-f1 while i was logged in and that brought up a dark blank screen. i had to force restart! when i logged off this time, the log off screen appeared. apparently everything is fixed now! :)
[16:18] <Dr_willis> tomasm-,   You could make some quicklists.. but no drawer applet that ive ever seen.
[16:19] <Dr_willis> qubuntu,  you scared it.. ;)
[16:19] <kyubutsu> linux voodoo
[16:19] <qubuntu> Dr_willis now the only thing that i don't understand is, whenever I do alt-ctrl-f1 the whole computer will go black and i have to force restart. -_-
[16:19] <morsnowski> Dr_willis, that's ok it can brake unity all it's want. it's disabled anyway :)
[16:19] <Dr_willis> tomasm-,  right now i got unity  and awn going. with awn at the bottom for the fancy stuff.
[16:20] <Dr_willis> qubuntu,  ive seen some video drivers mess with the framebuffer console and make it unuseable. i had to disable the framebuffer in ages past to get around that.
[16:20] <Dr_willis> qubuntu,  if you alt-ctrl-f7 it should go back to the X display.
[16:20] <kyubutsu> i just use dash for everything and alt-tab for app switching , works
[16:20] <makerbreaker_spy> I have a master ISO, it is written to a thumbdrive, the thubdrive is bootable
[16:21] <makerbreaker_spy> how would you guys write the thumbdrive ot the hard drive of the server, so the server boots up correctly
[16:21] <makerbreaker_spy> w/o using dd?
[16:21] <Dr_willis> makerbreaker_spy,  you did a full install to the thumb drive?
[16:21] <qubuntu> Dr_willis i just did alt-ctrl-f1 and then a black screen appeared, after doing alt-ctrl-f7 it went away. wow. thanks!
[16:21] <morsnowski> no logging in again didn't fix it either, i'll trail the forums for a while
[16:21] <makerbreaker_spy> dr_willis, yes
[16:21] <makerbreaker_spy> it is a "live" workable system
[16:21] <Dr_willis> qubuntu,  f1-f6 = consoles f7 = X.
[16:22] <Dr_willis> makerbreaker_spy,  live is not the same as a normal 'full' install.
[16:22] <makerbreaker_spy> its ubuntu 12 server edition
[16:22] <makerbreaker_spy> sorry, full install
[16:22] <qubuntu> so i'll never be able to us a console for some reason. :|
[16:22] <makerbreaker_spy> I just need to image the USB drive, to the hard drive, in the simplest way possible
[16:22] <Dr_willis> i just used dd last time to clone a 16gb usb flash to several other pcs hds makerbreaker_spy , then used gparted to resize the filesystems.
[16:22] <VirtualBlackness> qubuntu: sounds like a driver issue. What is the gpu
[16:23] <makerbreaker_spy> dr_willis, I need to avoid using dd the techs I hae doing the insallations are dubm
[16:23] <makerbreaker_spy> dumb*
[16:23] <Dr_willis> boot flash.. use dd to clone to hd.. reboot.
[16:23] <makerbreaker_spy> dr_willis, that is what I have been doing
[16:23] <Dr_willis> makerbreaker_spy,  worse case they erase the flash? so make a backup of it...
[16:23] <tomasm-> Dr_willis, so you need to use a totally separate dock/tray because unity's doesn't allow customize anything?
[16:23] <Dr_willis> or make a script on the flash for them to run.
[16:23] <makerbreaker_spy> ya, right, they erased the flash, but I need to ship out new ones
[16:23] <Dr_willis> tomasm-,  i just like awn.  for my task changer..
[16:23] <makerbreaker_spy> woudl you just parse the output of fdisk -l in the script?
[16:24] <Dr_willis> plus i got tons-o-moitor space. ;)
[16:24] <qubuntu> VirtualBlackness I'm using Nvidia accelerated graphics driver (post-release updates) version rather than the recommended one.
[16:24] <makerbreaker_spy> or is there an easier mechanism to figure out wich is the USB and which is the HD?
[16:24] <phunyguy> makerbreaker_spy: ddrescue
[16:24] <Dr_willis> wonder if they make  usb flsh with write protect switches.. ;)
[16:24] <Dr_willis> I bet someone does..
[16:25] <makerbreaker_spy> dr_willis, they are out there, but microcenter doesnt have htem
[16:25] <makerbreaker_spy> heh
[16:25] <Dr_willis> ive seen some pcs switch sda to be whatever flash they booted from.. seen others not do that.. so it can get complex.
[16:25] <kyubutsu> 3.5 floppies have it
[16:26] <Dr_willis> kyubutsu,  i bought a usb flash that was write protected.. with no switch.. :) had to take it back. it was defective
[16:26] <makerbreaker_spy> dr_willis, right, thats my issue, I wrote directions that said "run fdisk -l" figure out which is the smaller drive, and put that after the if=
[16:26] <makerbreaker_spy> .....that didnt work tooo well
[16:26] <pibarnas1> makerbreaker_spy: dmesg | fgrep USB | tail -10 's too hard?
[16:26] <Dr_willis> blkid may be a better tool then fdisk -l
[16:26] <phunyguy> makerbreaker_spy: hire new techs.  If they are working with linux, then they need to be worth the money you pay.
[16:27] <kyubutsu> Dr_willis: thats so government-like anyway
[16:27] <makerbreaker_spy> I dont have controll over that
[16:27] <VirtualBlackness> makerbreaker_spy: I guess you could... use clonezilla to make an image to be dropped on the server drive, and install bootable clonezilla to the USB key with the image.
[16:27] <Dr_willis> blkid may be easier for the script to parse also.. if you use a spefific label for the flash.
[16:27] <VirtualBlackness> Then there is no messing anything up, and you have idiot windows asking questions...
[16:27] <Dr_willis> VirtualBlackness,  thats fancy ;)
[16:28] <Dr_willis> i need to look into clonezilla someday
[16:28] <VirtualBlackness> makerbreaker_spy: you could also do distributed installs that way :)
[16:28] <qubuntu> VirtualBlackness do you think the problem is that i should be using the recommended Nvidia driver instead of the post-release driver?
[16:28] <Dr_willis> qubuntu,  ive never had the post-release driver work. ;)
[16:28] <VirtualBlackness> Dr_willis: Yes. Clonezilla is magic. Have no idea how much time it has saved me.
[16:29] <VirtualBlackness> qubuntu: very likely.
[16:29] <phunyguy> is post-release the beta? and if so, why dont they just call it Beta?
[16:29] <qubuntu> ok Dr_willis and VirtualBlackness i'll just install the other one then.
[16:29] <kyubutsu> qubuntu: dont overthink it. you say it working now. let it be
[16:29] <qubuntu> kyubutsu but the console doesn't come up and i really want to figure out why.
[16:30] <Dr_willis> qubuntu,  you could disable the framebuffer for the console i think you use the 'nofb' option in /etc/default/grub
[16:30] <Dr_willis> but ive noticed the framebuffer acting differntly in 12.04 then earlier relasees here.
[16:30] <kyubutsu> well.. curiosity kills cat. but, i bet you know this
[16:30] <Narc> Sorry to ask again but I need some help here, I can't for the life of me get a Ubuntu Install USB Key to boot on a friend's iMac... I tried a lot of things, to no avail. The best I achieved was to get rEFIt to see a Windows partition on which I dd the whole USB stick, but booting from it gives me a "Non system disk" or "isonlinux.bin missing" message. How can I copy the install image to a partition to boot from ? Any help ? Thanks a lot
[16:30] <Dr_willis> the console is not filling out my whole monitor like it used to
[16:30] <qubuntu> okay Dr_willis i'll try that after switching to the other Nvidia driver. thanks.
[16:31] <qubuntu> brb.
[16:31] <phunyguy> Narc, not sure that is a supported configuration.
[16:31] <isabel> hi, i have ubuntu 12.04 installed on my laptop with 512mb ram and 502mb swap space. The problem is my swap space is just getting fuller and fuller, eg memory usage is at 40% and swap space is at 60%, is there a way of tweaking this?
[16:32] <phunyguy> isabel, sounds like it is working as it should.
[16:32] <Dr_willis> isabel,  ive found it best to let linux handle memory.... it knows best.
[16:32] <Dr_willis> moar ram would defiantly help your system
[16:32] <Narc> phunyguy: The Ubuntu wiki says it is I think. Install from USB seems to be compatible with Intel Macs..
[16:32] <phunyguy> defiantly... lol.
[16:33] <phunyguy> Narc, but use at your own risk
[16:33] <isabel> i hear you guys, but after a while swap space is 100% and it looks like ubuntu is hanging
[16:33] <phunyguy> no?
[16:33] <xapel> Dr_Willis: Thanx, will look into it
[16:33] <kyubutsu> 512mb of memory! a pocket calculator has more ram than that!
[16:33] <VirtualBlackness> Narc there is a mac specific iso... I dont know if that is for PPC or what... though. Might investigate
[16:33] <phunyguy> isabel, try a lighter distro.
[16:33] <phunyguy> lubuntu, or xubuntu
[16:34] <kyubutsu> am kinda surprised 12.04 can work with that even
[16:34] <isabel> thanks maybe i must do that
[16:34] <Dr_willis> Lubuntu is very nice. :)
[16:34] <kyubutsu> yes you must
[16:34] <phunyguy> isabel I would try xubuntu first
[16:34] <phunyguy> but lubuntu is definitely lighter.
[16:34] <isabel> why wat is the dif
[16:35] <kyubutsu> xfce or lxde
[16:35] <phunyguy> try each one out.  Lubuntu definitely lacks features that regular ubuntu brings, and Xubuntu has most features without all the eye candy.
[16:35] <isabel> 12.04 is running not bad in the laptop, for 512mb mem
[16:35] <VirtualBlackness> one is a sportscar one is a motorcyle.
[16:35] <qubuntu> okay Dr_willis changing to recommended driver didn't work. i'll try disabling framebuffer. i'm in terminal right now, so what do i enter?
[16:36] <isabel> all i need is libre office, internet, skype, thats it
[16:36] <phunyguy> VirtualBlackness: ubuntu = sports car, xubuntu = motorcycle, lubuntu = moped.
[16:36] <kyubutsu> if you are used to gnome, xubuntu will feel more like it imo
[16:36] <Narc> VirtualBlackness: I think there isn't any mac specific ISO, since they use Intel. The wiki don't mention any.
[16:36] <phunyguy> Narc, the issue lies with the mac, and not ubuntu.
[16:36]  * VirtualBlackness thinks of ubuntu/unity more of a station waggon... but to each their own
[16:36] <phunyguy> which is probably beyond the scope of this channel
[16:37] <VirtualBlackness> one second narc
[16:37] <kyubutsu> VirtualBlackness: vans are quite useful actually
[16:37] <Narc> phunyguy: I supposed so... I think EFI is to blame, among other
[16:37] <skraps>  /nickserv identify method51
[16:37] <Narc> VirtualBlackness: No problem
[16:37] <skraps> frik
[16:37] <Dr_willis> qubuntu,  nofb option in the /etc/default/grub file, then rerun update-grub, then reboot.. but im not sure how well that works in 12.04
[16:37] <skraps> roflmao
[16:37] <phunyguy> VirtualBlackness: I actually like it.  Works very well for me, but like you said, to each their own.  and Kubuntu = 18 wheeler.
[16:38] <phunyguy> hahaha skraps.
[16:38] <phunyguy> we can help you scroll the screen
[16:38] <skraps> it was phunny wasnt it
[16:38] <kyubutsu> nah
[16:38] <qubuntu> ok Dr_willis but i'm not sure what to enter in terminal. how would i do that?
[16:38] <isabel> laptop spec is 1 cpu 1.73hz, 512 ram, 80G hdd, and it runs ubuntu 12.048-)
[16:38] <Dr_willis> !grub2 | qubuntu
[16:39] <VirtualBlackness> narc: first of all did you see this? http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx
[16:39] <Dr_willis> qubuntu,  use whatever text editor you like.  you need to edit the file as root.
[16:39] <Dr_willis> bbl. wife needs me.
[16:39] <qubuntu> alright thanks Dr_willis.
[16:39] <isabel> problem is new ram is more expensive now for this model
[16:39] <qubuntu> lunch time. bye!
[16:39] <Narc> VirtualBlackness: Yes I did, I did it at least 6 times, to no avail
[16:42] <VirtualBlackness> just for the record Narc: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/   I knew I had seen mac specific ones, but as suspected, they are for PPC
[16:42] <Alex__> where can I go to ask a question about how javascript works in firefox?
[16:42] <VirtualBlackness> either mac PPC or intel PPC
[16:42] <VirtualBlackness> Javascript is javascript... what is the question Alex__?
[16:43] <VirtualBlackness> Not sure it can or should be answered here, but I am curious what your question is/.
[16:43] <Narc> VirtualBlackness: Ok, thanks. But the iMac is an Intel one. Any other suggestion, it's really getting on my nerves
[16:45] <VirtualBlackness> what version imac Narc?
[16:45] <Alex__> when I declare visibility using css declaring it hidden and then access the document.getElementById(theId).sylte.visibility it returns undefined.  But the actual element is hidden
[16:45] <Narc> VirtualBlackness: iMac6.1 from late 2007 I think
[16:46] <VirtualBlackness> Narc: that is PPC. Grab an iso from the link I gave you.
[16:46] <Alex__> then when I assign hidden or visible through javascript the same code will return the expected value
[16:46] <VirtualBlackness> or maybe not
[16:46] <VirtualBlackness> one second...
[16:46] <tomasm-> hi, is there any way to change ubuntu (12.04 unity) to NOT place the menu bar of an app at the top of the screen? I really need them on the app windows, especially for small app windows
[16:47] <Narc> VirtualBlackness: No, it's Intel
[16:47] <OerHeks> tomasm-, yes, disable global menu
[16:47] <morsnowski> I can see it now I will die without that cube, what a shame
[16:47] <VirtualBlackness> Narc: Intel made the latter portion of their PPCs
[16:47] <goudkov> hi guys. i'm on lucid, trying to mount samsung galaxy tab via mtp. i want to use libmtp but it looks like gnome uses libgphoto2 to lock the  device. i tried looking into udev, hal, dbus, without any success. any ideas on how to make ubuntu not try to mount mtp device automatically?
[16:48] <VirtualBlackness> It changed over somewhere around there though...
[16:48] <tomasm-> OerHeks, how?
[16:49] <Narc> VirtualBlackness: It's an Intel Core 2 Duo processor
[16:49] <OerHeks> tomasm-,  " sudo apt-get remove appmenu-gtk appmenu-gtk3 appmenu-qt indicator-appmenu "  found @ http://www.webupd8.org/2011/03/disable-appmenu-global-menu-in-ubuntu.html
[16:50] <tomasm-> OerHeks, thanks
[16:50] <phunyguy> yeah normal iso should work.  do you have a USB CD drive?
[16:50] <phunyguy> or a CD drive on the mac?
[16:50] <phunyguy> (Narc)
[16:51] <Catbus_> hmm when did my background switch from solid purple to solid black?  Ubuntu does the cutest little things
[16:51] <Narc> phunyguy: The Superdrive or so called on the iMac is dead, and I figured it won't boot from an USB DVD Drive either, maybe I'm wrong
[16:51] <tomasm-> also, anyone here have dual monitors and notice that when moving the mouse from one monitor to the other, that the mouse often gets 'stuck' on the 2nd monitor's dock and wont move past (unless you do some weird 'yanking' trick)? is this a bug? or some supposed feature?
[16:52] <VirtualBlackness> tomasm-: I would expect that is GPU specific.
[16:52] <tomasm-> the mouse wont move to the 'other' monitor if I'm moving the cursor slowly. it only works if i move the cursor quickly
[16:52] <Xpl01t> guys, what file system should i use?? ext3 or ext4?
[16:53] <tomasm-> VirtualBlackness, GPU? i don't know how it could be related to my graphics card, it's quite consistent, and doesn't visually appear to be a bug
[16:53] <StepNjump> Hi guys, I like back in time much better than deja dup. However, it doesn't offer encryption. Would anyone know any work around I could use to manually password protect my files?\
[16:53] <OerHeks> Xpl01t, i would choose ext4
[16:54] <VirtualBlackness> tomasm-: it would be related to the driver specific to the gpu which allows multiple monitor setups. Nothing to do with the OS itself
[16:54] <Xpl01t> OerHeks: but what are the basic differences between them?
[16:55] <tomasm-> VirtualBlackness, but this is very specific to unity, not gnome or cinnamon, which I've also used.... it has something to do with the mouse getting sticky onto the dock when moving slowly across it
[16:55] <OerHeks> Xpl01t, newer is better.
[16:55] <Xpl01t> :P
[16:55] <phunyguy> Narc, doesnt hurt to try
[16:55] <Xpl01t> does anybody still uses reiserFS, after Hans Reiser get arrested by killing his wife?
[16:55] <phunyguy> Xpl01t: nope.
[16:56] <Xpl01t> why not?
[16:56] <phunyguy> Xpl01t: not me anyway
[16:56] <tomasm-> VirtualBlackness, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11882494
[16:56] <OerHeks> Xpl01t, some love it, i do not support it.
[16:56] <phunyguy> Xpl01t: never felt a need.
[16:56] <Xpl01t> oh ok
[16:56] <Xpl01t> thank you :)
[16:56] <OerHeks> ZFS would be my next choice.
[16:57] <tomasm-> VirtualBlackness, "sticky edges", under Display Settings, apparently. (not related to the graphics card)
[16:57] <StepNjump> Crazy guy!
[16:58] <StepNjump> Wow, she was beautiful!
[16:59] <phunyguy> StepNjump: do you have a question?
[16:59] <Alex__> VirtualBlackness: any ideas on my javascript question?
[16:59] <StepNjump> Nina Reiser
[16:59] <phunyguy> !offtopic | StepNjump
[17:00] <VirtualBlackness> tomasm-: it appears you have your answer... it is a compiz setting issue.
[17:01] <VirtualBlackness> Alex__: no.   /join ##javascript
[17:02] <Alex__> thanks
[17:07] <adv__>   Hi
[17:09] <sirriffsalot> adv__: hey:P
[17:09] <hawkal1> How can I increase my "ulimit -l" memory or change it to unlimited?
[17:09] <sirriffsalot> I accidentally dropped my "Downloads" directory on the top panel of classic gnome in 12.04, and there seems to be no way to get rid of it...?
[17:12] <morsnowski> sirriffsalot, press alt-windows than right click the icon
[17:12] <sirriffsalot> morsnowski: wow, where'd you get that from?
[17:13] <morsnowski> google ?
[17:13] <sirriffsalot> Lol..
[17:13] <morsnowski> had that issue before
[17:13] <sirriffsalot> And how come there  isn't a "Panels" option of some kind in system settings?!:P
[17:14] <Mike9863> Ubuntu no longer automatically changes the connector from Speakers to Headphones under the sound settings when I plug in headphones. How can I enable this?
[17:14] <morsnowski> sirriffsalot, that's to ensure I can answer a question in here every now and then
[17:15] <sirriffsalot> morsnowski: haha..
[17:15] <Welagor> hello, i need help please, i have two gateway in two different subnet and when I try ping from my second network, i get destination not unreachable but i have the good route..
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[17:18] <FloodBot1> Monigote: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
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[17:20] <Monigote> que te calles coño
[17:20] <lelamal> can anyone kick him out please?
[17:21] <Dr_willis> Hmm. got a directory with like 200 videos in it.. need to basically shuffle them, so the wife has a 'random' order to play them all in when she does a play all with her media player.. dont suppose someones seen a renamer-tool that can make that task easier?
[17:21] <fidel_> lelamal: therei s a trigger afaik to notice the ops in case you really bother just ignoring ;)
[17:21] <lelamal> fidel_: ok thanks :)
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[17:22] <BlouBlou> !ops
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[17:25] <akshaydixi> Dr_willis: souldnt playing them all with shuffle mode work as well?
[17:26] <Dr_willis> akshaydixi,  the player she has - dosent do that. Its a TV-Video box that just plays from flash/usb.
[17:26] <Dr_willis> actually it wold be best if i could keep some order to the videos. not totally random. otherwise part2 of a show may appear befor part1.. (not that it matters much)
[17:26] <eli0_> hey ppl. can i ask u how to join php channel? because it requires invitation, how can i get it?
[17:26] <kyubutsu> make playlist sort by date
[17:26] <Lutsen> I've successfully mounted /home on a separate primary partition using the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving .  But I just tried it again and noticed something odd (to me) as it is copying /home to /media/home.  It spends a lot of time telling me that countless ecryptfs files have "vanished".  I don't remeber if it did this when I moved /home several months ago so I don't know if this is a bad thing.  I a
[17:27] <Dr_willis> eli0_,  you sure it dosent say 'regiestered' nicks only?
[17:27] <Dr_willis> kyubutsu,  shes got an O-Play media player on the tv. it dosent do Playlists. :)
[17:27] <escott> Lutsen, if you have ecryptfs I would recommend rebooting the livecd and performing the copy there
[17:28] <Dr_willis> but for a 3 yr+ old media player. it plays most every file i cen throw at it.. it even plays dvd iso files.
[17:28] <eli0_> Dr_willis sure, it says Cannot join to channel #php (You must be invited)
[17:28] <Lutsen> Follow the same instructions but from within the live cd?
[17:29] <Dr_willis> eli0_,  i imagone thats not  ment to be a php support channel then. you my want to ask in #freenode ans check out  the alis bot.
[17:29] <Dr_willis> !alis | eli0_
[17:29] <Myrtti> eli0_: you're already on ##php then
[17:29] <kyubutsu> eli0_: look in the channel list see who admin and ask
[17:29] <escott> Lutsen, basically. important thing is to get your ecryptfs user logged off the computer before performing the copy
[17:30] <truemove> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0PsJMylIpk&feature=relmfu
[17:30] <truemove> good rewiew of unity :D
[17:31] <eli0_> ok thanks guys i'll try all ur advices
[17:32] <kyubutsu> the advice was same in three different ways though
[17:32] <kyubutsu> linux voodoo
[17:32] <Lutsen> Oh, I get it.  Thanks.  Another question.  Right now /home is on a primary partition.  Can it be mounted in an extended partition instead?  And would it have to be owned by a particular user (such as root)?  I'm trying to do this because I have reached the limit on how many primary partitions I can have and want to install a second distro to dual boot with.  (Or perhaps can the second distro boot from within an extended partition and just use t
[17:33] <Dr_willis> Lutsen,  you could have made the /home/ parton a logical partion Inside an extended...
[17:34] <Lutsen> That's what I'm asking about.  It will mount just fine from there?
[17:34] <Dr_willis> Lutsen,  the files/dirs in /home/USERNAME  are owned by the user in question.
[17:34] <Qalqi> this world would have been a been a better place if only irc people were more sympathetic
[17:34] <Dr_willis> Lutsen,  you can use primary or logicals howefer you want.
[17:34] <Lutsen> Cool, thanks ya'll!
[17:35] <kyubutsu> it just a matter of creating the new partition. data wont mind what you call it
[17:35] <Dr_willis> rember however.. 4 primary partions MAX.. one of which can be an extended, that holds more logicals.
[17:35] <killtrace> can u delete swap partition and I have 4 Gb ram mmemory
[17:35] <kyubutsu> hierarchy
[17:36] <Dr_willis> killtrace,  you could.. but i wouldent suggest it.
[17:36] <kyubutsu> killtrace: yes, but, highly not recommended
[17:36] <escott> Lutsen, /home itself should be owned by root
[17:37] <killtrace> ok, i wanna buy 8gb and ssd .. what about wear level?
[17:37] <killtrace> of ssd?
[17:37] <kapz> I need help choosing a laptop...where can I look?
[17:38] <Dr_willis> kapz,  check out the various linux laptop sales web sites - and see what they got. :)
[17:38] <kyubutsu> probably online too
[17:38] <kapz> Dr_willis, in my country there are no special linux laptops marketed...so need major brands..
[17:39] <Dr_willis> kapz,  i belive system76 ships worldwide.. and you can see what brands they are rebranding...
[17:39] <kapz> I acyually just need a laptop with dedicated GPU..unlike nvidia optimus
[17:39] <kapz> is that so...will check now!
[17:39] <jameslord> hi all
[17:39] <jameslord> why u guys choose ubuntu?
[17:39] <kyubutsu> !poll
[17:40] <jameslord> ok
[17:41] <kyubutsu> jameslord: you can try asking in #ubuntu-offtopic , more suited
[17:42] <kapz> oh well system76 does not offer any dedicated GPU... :(
[17:43] <schultza> im having problems installing a printer to cups... i think it's a driver issue. i have a MFC-8690DW
[17:45] <Lutsen> More than one partition can be set to boot, right?  If a second OS is in a logical partition, do I just set it to boot and it will show up alongside the original one on the grub menu?
[17:46] <Dr_willis> Lutsen,  linux can boot from extended/logicals.. windows7 can also i belive.. older windows.. i think needs primary
[17:46] <Dr_willis> Lutsen,  grub will scan and show all the os's that os-prober can detect
[17:47] <Lutsen> Thanks, you folks have been very helpful (and prompt!).
[17:47] <coder2> how to disable the launch of orca at login in 10.04??
[17:49] <paopao> how to install win7+ubuntu+debian, I have installed win7+ubuntu on my computer, I want to install debian through hard disc, but when I installed it, I was told that no .iso file was detected
[17:50] <pgib> Hello.  I'm trying out Unity, but there is something that really pisses me off about it.  Whenever I maximize a window, the window is ALWAYS maximized to my second monitor.  It doesn't matter which monitor the window originally resided on.  I think it would be a lot better if the window would expand to the monitor it currently lies on. Any ideas on how to change this behavior?
[17:50] <Dr_willis> paopao,  'throgh hard disk' meaning what exactly?
[17:50] <Dr_willis> pgib,  whats your vdeo card?
[17:51] <kapz> okay can someone tell me how is the ati gpu support on linux?
[17:51] <kyubutsu> paopao: burn your debian version to CD and install as usual, easy
[17:51] <Dr_willis> pgib,  mine expands to whatever monitor its on. Using nvidia+twinview
[17:51] <coder2> How to disable orca in ubuntu 10.04  at login???
[17:51] <Dr_willis> kapz,  id suggest going Nvidia or Intel over ati.
[17:51] <paopao> kyubutsu, I have no CD
[17:51] <pgib> Nvidia Quadro NVS 420.  I am also using TwinView
[17:51] <vg-loc> help me
[17:52] <mosno> volume status icon disappearing in gnome shell
[17:52] <mosno> heeeelp
[17:52] <pgib> additionally - new windows are always started on the second monitor first - regardless of free real estate or mouse position
[17:52] <Dr_willis> pgib,  you did reboot/restart the X server after enabling twinview?
[17:52] <kyubutsu> paopao: where is this debian .iso ?
[17:52] <e2b04836> !patience | mosno
[17:52] <Dr_willis> pgib,  set the other monitor as the primary monitor perhaps?
[17:52] <kapz> Dr_willis, yeah well nvidia has only optimus cards which are not supported on linux...
[17:52] <vg-loc> can any one help me i'm new to linux (ubuntu)
[17:52] <pgib> yes. I've been stopping lightdm, making sure X isn't running, then restarting lightdm
[17:52] <mrtingles> irc.chronic-dev.org
[17:52] <kkrauss> Afternoon all
[17:52] <Dr_willis> kapz,  nvidia has more then 'only optimus' cards i imagine...
[17:52] <e2b04836> !ask |vg-loc
[17:52] <ceed^> There were some GL/Intel updates today and after that I keep getting system error. This is what is pointed to: /usr/share/apport-gpu-error-intel.py  Ideas?
[17:53] <mosno> e2b04836, i added that because i didn't add a question mark, and i thought i'd be funny.
[17:53] <paopao> kyubutsu, in the C partion of windows
[17:53] <Dr_willis> pgib,  other then setting the primary monitor. i got no other ideas
[17:53] <vg-loc> ive just installed m ubuntu what r the thing i need and give me some help tutorials !1
[17:53] <kkrauss> After a couple of days of playing around, I finally got my system running just about where I need it to, but I am getting an error message on x boot up related to my monitor, and I do not see anything related to it in the xorg.conf file, the error is:
[17:53] <kapz> Dr_willis, nope...not the new ones, there are tesla and quadro cards...but very expensive for my needs
[17:53] <paopao> ntfs
[17:54] <kkrauss> none of the selected modes were compatible with the possible modes:
[17:54] <kkrauss> Trying modes for CRTC 434
[17:54] <kkrauss> CRTC 434: trying mode 1280x1024@50Hz with output at 1440x900@50Hz (pass 0)
[17:54] <kkrauss> CRTC 434: trying mode 1280x1024@50Hz with output at 1440x900@50Hz (pass 1)
[17:54] <FloodBot1> kkrauss: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:54] <vg-loc> what ever i do ends up in error !!
[17:54] <vg-loc> can any one plzz resolve this problem
[17:54] <kyubutsu> paopao: you need to burn .iso to disc or make a bootable USB with it . cannot install otherwise
[17:54] <fidel_> !ask vg-loc
[17:55] <fidel_> !ask | vg-loc
[17:55] <pgib> ok... I'll try a full restart now that I've made one of the monitor primary. but still - I'd like the window to maximize into which ever screen is currently housing it - not just "Always my middle screen"
[17:55] <vg-loc> what do ineed to resolve the error problem ??
[17:55] <fidel_> !elaborate | vg-loc
[17:55] <vg-loc> i really want to learn all abt ubuntu
[17:55] <paopao> i think it can be installed like that, because i installed ubuntu just in that way, it's much easier than installing debian, really...
[17:55] <vg-loc> when i start wine it ends up in error
[17:55] <paopao> kyubutsu
[17:56] <kkrauss> ANy thoughts on whats causing my error?
[17:56] <e2b04836> vg-loc: that doesn't help, what is the error?
[17:56] <vg-loc> when i update it is not updating and always shows error
[17:57] <kkrauss> vg-loc, what is the error, you have to be more specific
[17:57] <paopao> kyubutsu, i used easybcd
[17:57] <kkrauss> like my error is : none of the selected modes were compatible with the possible modes:
[17:57] <kkrauss> Trying modes for CRTC 434
[17:57] <kkrauss> CRTC 434: trying mode 1280x1024@50Hz with output at 1440x900@50Hz (pass 0)
[17:57] <kkrauss> CRTC 434: trying mode 1280x1024@50Hz with output at 1440x900@50Hz (pass 1)
[17:57] <vg-loc> guys plz give me some help and tips
[17:57] <vg-loc> i'm not able to log in as a su
[17:57] <locoguano> I need to make a color change in a theme. I need to change the slider color. Its a black theme and the sliders cannot be seen.
[17:57] <coder2> Dr_willis, how to disable the launch of orca at login in 10.04??Can you help me??
[17:57] <Dr_willis> vg-loc,  you dont use su to get to root on ubuntu.
[17:57] <vg-loc> it just simly asks password !!
[17:58] <Dr_willis> coder2,  no idea. i never use it.. check askubuntu.com perhaps
[17:58] <Dr_willis> vg-loc,  you use sudo as needed to get root access.. not 'su'
[17:58] <coder2> Dr_willis, okay thanks
[17:58] <kkrauss> vg-loc, when you type su it logs you in as root, you do not have a root password
[17:58] <kkrauss> vg-loc, you need to type 'su then your admin account name'
[17:58] <phunyguy> does anyone have ubuntu installed on a mac with the thunderbolt interface?
[17:58] <kkrauss> vg-loc, for example 'su vg-loc' then hit enter, then you will be prompted for the apssword
[17:59] <fidel_> i am still wondering what vg-loc is trying to do in the first place
[17:59] <OerHeks> su ?
[17:59] <kkrauss> Dr_willis, you have any thoughts on my error?
[17:59] <vg-loc> thanks guys
[17:59] <Dr_willis> fidel_,  yea. :) i was wondering that also.
[17:59] <phunyguy> if so, how did you do it?
[17:59] <fidel_> there wasnt any real problem description or similar
[17:59] <kyubutsu> what's that method of installing ubuntu within Windows?
[17:59] <rsrs> hello folks!
[17:59] <vg-loc> do u have any suggestions for me like tips and tricks for what ive have to learn ?
[17:59] <kkrauss> vg-loc, but also its rare you need to just use su, you typiecally do sudo
[17:59] <e2b04836> !wubi |kyubutsu
[18:00] <kyubutsu> right
[18:00] <Dr_willis> !manual | vg-loc
[18:00] <vg-loc> sudo and my name ??
[18:00] <kkrauss> vg-loc, when you use sudo you dont need to use your name
[18:00] <vg-loc> sudo what is it used for ?
[18:00] <phunyguy> vg-loc: it stands for super-user-do
[18:00] <kkrauss> vg-loc, alot of your desktop applications will just prompt you, so if you are a noob you will probably not use terminal a ton, but as you get better sudo will become common place
[18:00] <vg-loc> and what abt apt ?
[18:01] <rsrs>  have this annoying little problem in precise, wonder if you guys have come across it. It's not a show stopper by any means but is annoying enough. after i log in, i'm unable to select a vpn connection from the nmapplet dropdown
[18:01] <lelamal> kyubutsu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[18:01] <phunyguy> so you type that, then the command and it runs with elevated priveleges
[18:01] <fidel_> vg-loc: consider reading this - http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html - and be sure you'll get much easier help afterwards. right now its pretty difficult to help
[18:01] <kkrauss> vg-loc, sudo stands for super user do, it raises your permissions so that you can do things you need admin access to do
[18:01] <kyubutsu> vg-loc: gives a program or command superuser priviledges , use with care
[18:01] <locoguano> I need to change the slider (not scrollbar) color of a gtk-3 theme. Any ideas what line to look for?
[18:01] <vg-loc> thank u guys
[18:01] <paperbagblues> Im trying to install airecrack-ng suite. i run sudo apt-get install build-essential and it tells me 'Ubuntu 12.04 LTS _Precise Pangolin_ - Release i386 (20120423)'
[18:01] <paperbagblues> in the drive '/cdrom/' and press enter
[18:02] <kkrauss> vg-loc, lets say I want to edit my .bashrc file so I an add an alias, if I just open it up and edit, when I try to save it will say I dont have priviledges
[18:02] <vg-loc> can i ask any question when i'm stuck or have any doubts ??
[18:02] <fidel_> paperbagblues: your package-management still has the install cd as source defined
[18:02] <pgib> Dr_willis, just tried changing the primary screen.  Same stupid issue.  I also tried "Ubuntu 2D" but in this mode - maximizing causes the window to span the entire twinview area (as if it was just a single monitor).  I guess no Unity for me :(
[18:02] <fidel_> so - it does not queries the internet for package informations but prefers the maybe not existing install-medium
[18:02] <kkrauss> vg-loc, but if I type sudo pico .bashrc, with pico being an editor, I will be prompted for a password and have permissions to write to it.
[18:02] <Osakasa> Hello, slightly of topic but www.ubuntu.com advertises ubuntu on android. Is there already a working version or is this future feature and still working on it?
[18:02] <paperbagblues> but i installed with a usb, i don't have a cd
[18:03] <vg-loc> so what password do u type ?
[18:03] <Dr_willis> pgib,   only time ive seen spaning both monitors was with badly written java apps.  but ive not done 2 monitos in ages
[18:03] <buttons1> question: trying to insert into cron to run every day at 3PM will this work: * 15 * * * root comand?
[18:03] <fidel_> kkrauss: there is no need for editing the owns users -.bashrc with sudo in the first place
[18:03] <kkrauss> vg-loc, yes but take it from personal experience sometimes it takes a while to find the right person with the right answers,  I am not that far ahead of you, and have been on here for days fixing small fires with my system
[18:03] <Dr_willis> vg-loc,  sudo will want the users lasswprd.
[18:03] <Dr_willis> password
[18:03] <pgib> this is gnome-terminal, I think it should behave properly
[18:03] <Dr_willis> pgib,  check askubuntu.com see of others have similer issue.
[18:04] <Dr_willis> I dont have a dual monitor setup handy to check.  try in a simple window manager like icewm perhaps?
[18:04] <vg-loc> so r u guys always online ??
[18:04] <kyubutsu> vg-loc: in other words, sudo asks YOUR user password
[18:04] <kkrauss> fidel_, I was giving him an example that if he tried to repeat would cause him no harm
[18:04] <kkrauss> fidel_, the point was made :)
[18:04] <pgib> man.. I've wasted almost two days on this.  I've tried just about everything people mention on the forums.  I think I'm just going to use fluxbox or something until gnome or unity get their act in gear
[18:04] <kkrauss> vg-loc, there is always some one in here since ive been coming the last few days
[18:04] <escott> buttons1, you dont want * 15 you want 0 15
[18:04] <vg-loc> like the password with which i login
[18:05] <kyubutsu> yes
[18:05] <buttons1> I saw that after reading more thanks
[18:05] <kyubutsu> !sudo > vg-loc
[18:05] <fidel_> vg-loc: for what specific action do you need sudo permissions right now in the first place if i may ask?
[18:05] <kkrauss> but there is also a ton of people at times so your question might get unintentionally ignored for a while or no one will know the answers.  I am still waiting in hopes some one can tell me whats causing my x boot up error
[18:05] <fidel_> is it about understanding sudo in general - or about doing something in specific?
[18:05] <vg-loc> for installing some stuff
[18:05] <vg-loc> like xchatt for an instance
[18:06] <paperbagblues> Fidel_ so how do i change  your package-management to something besides the cd
[18:06] <fAz4> what's the Unity IRC ?
[18:06] <kyubutsu> you dont need sudo for that
[18:06] <kkrauss> vg-loc, if you are using a desktop environment
[18:06] <kkrauss> vg-loc, what distor of ubuntu are you using?  12.04?
[18:06] <fidel_> vg-loc: using the major account - in terminal: sudo apt-get install xchat
[18:06] <kkrauss> *distro*
[18:06] <vg-loc> i'm using ubuntu 12.04
[18:06] <kkrauss> am I the only one who prevers aptitude over apt-get
[18:06] <fidel_> this will tell the application 'apt' to get & install the package 'xchat' using admin privileges
[18:07] <kkrauss> vg-loc ok well guess what ubuntu has simplified things
[18:07] <Dr_willis> kkrauss,  not really.. aptitude is slowly getting deperciated and has issues i hear.
[18:07] <Dr_willis> !aptitude
[18:07] <fidel_> it will ask for the user-password - your user you created while install has the permission to run 'sudo' actions
[18:07] <Welagor> hello, i need help please, i have two gateway in two different subnet and when I try ping from my second network, i get destination not unreachable but i have the good route..
[18:07] <fidel_> so the cmd above will ask for the password of your current user most likely
[18:07] <fAz4> where to report Unity Bugs  ?
[18:07] <vg-loc> but after u type sudo apt-get install xchat what should i do to save the app ?
[18:07] <kkrauss> vg-loc, just use ubuntu's software cente,r type xchat then install it, it will prompt you for your password, then let it install; and you are done
[18:07] <fidel_> paperbagblues: edit your apt sources file
[18:08] <fidel_> paperbagblues: either manual via cli - or using a fronted for it
[18:08] <kkrauss> vg-loc, hold on man, fidel is right but you are totally new to this, do i through the desktop environment, you will have plenty of time to learn the terminal
[18:08] <fidel_> paperbagblues: basic file is: /etc/apt/sources.list most likely
[18:08] <paperbagblues> fidel_ would i change the source to the usb flah drive?
[18:08] <coder2> exit
[18:08] <fidel_> paperbagblues: you should use online sources
[18:08] <fidel_> to get always the latest versions
[18:08] <kyubutsu> vg-loc: use Software Center for installing applications
[18:09] <fidel_> at least if you have a working internet-connection
[18:09] <vg-loc> so is it installed all by itself ?
[18:09] <vg-loc> but i dont fin it anywhere and i have to download it from software center
[18:09] <kkrauss> vg-loc, you are using the unity shell, on the left hand side of yours creen you should see a bunch of icons, one of them is a gear with a wrench over it, above that should be like a bag with things coming out of the top of it that is the software center.  click on that, type in xchat and search, and bam
[18:09] <leto_> newbie question: say there is a new point release of a software obtained from the ubuntu software center. does the app get updated automatically? or would i have to download the new version again?
[18:09] <fidel_> vg-loc: running the cmd mentioned above: sudo apt-get install chat'  will do everything you need. download the app & install it - done -> ready to use
[18:09] <paperbagblues> fidel_: should i jjust emove this line deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 12.04 LTS _Precise Pangolin_ - Release i386 (20120423)]/ prec$
[18:10] <kkrauss> Dr_willis, whats funny is I know how to use aptitude better than apt-get, I should remedy that.  Do you have any thoughts on my error i've posted?
[18:10] <fidel_> paperbagblues: depends inf it is the only source right now
[18:10] <fidel_> paperbagblues: first action is disabling  - which method have youchoosen?
[18:10] <fidel_> any gu?
[18:10] <vg-loc> but when i downloaded crome from fire fox it is not getting installed
[18:10] <fidel_> any gui?
[18:10] <vg-loc> what sould i do for that ?
[18:10] <paperbagblues> i just typed edit /etc/apt/sources.list  interminal
[18:10] <paperbagblues> err pico /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:10] <fidel_> vg-loc: you should use your package-managent
[18:10] <kkrauss> vg-loc, there is no downloading from firefox, you arent listening
[18:10] <fidel_> not download things manually
[18:11] <kyubutsu> vg-loc: firefox is installed by default in ubuntu
[18:11] <kkrauss> vg-loc, I just gave you step by stpe instructions on how to do it through unity
[18:11] <fidel_> paperbagblues: well - used to commenting conf files?
[18:11] <vg-loc> sry i did not follow u can u list it again
[18:11] <paperbagblues> fidel_: not really should i just add a # in front of the cdrom line
[18:11] <vg-loc> ??
[18:12] <fidel_> paperbagblues: yes
[18:12] <kyubutsu> vg-loc: scroll up
[18:12] <pratz> hey guys how can i display the beep sound in ubuntu 12.04
[18:12] <kkrauss> vg-loc, on the let hand side of your desktop, you have a series if icons, one of them looks like a gear with a wrench over it, above that is a bag with a handle and thigns coming out the top, that is the software center, click on that
[18:12] <fidel_> paperbagblues: now copy the entire content of this file to an online service like poastebin
[18:12] <fidel_> lets check together if you have any other sources defined
[18:12] <vg-loc> so even for crome i have to surf at software center ??
[18:13] <kkrauss> dude
[18:13] <kkrauss> I thought you wanted to get xchat
[18:13] <kkrauss> one step at a time
[18:13] <fidel_> vg-loc: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[18:13] <fidel_> read that please ;)
[18:13] <Dr_willis> crawl, walk, run,, and in linux.... fly.....
[18:13] <kkrauss> the software center is like a graphical front end for apt-get, it just simplifies thigns for you, this is one of ubuntus selling points.
[18:13] <fidel_> paperbagblues: ?
[18:13] <paperbagblues> fidel i saved it and ran the  sudo apt-get install build-essential
[18:14] <kkrauss> fidel_, a little mean, but spot on lol
[18:14] <paperbagblues>  again it worked
[18:14] <wookey_> since I upgrade to 12.04 I've had several keyboard freezes. It's just done it for 2nd time today
[18:14] <wookey_> mouse still works
[18:14] <Dr_willis> software center => android (or other os's market)   They are stealing our ideas! ;P
[18:14] <fidel_> kkrauss: its helpful at the end
[18:14] <wookey_> loggin out of xsession seems to fix it
[18:14] <kkrauss> vg-loc, i am trying to show you the software center, because most of any programs you would want you can get in there in a very simplified manner.  As you get better and learn more there will be exceptions of course but like Dr_willis just sayd, crawl, walk, run then fly.  Stop trying to fly.
[18:14] <fidel_> paperbagblues: could you still show us the sources file?
[18:15] <wookey_> anyone know how to poke keyboard (sshing in from another machine) or what might be wrong?
[18:15] <fidel_> just to make sure it's somehow right
[18:15] <paperbagblues> yeah as soon a si fig out how to copy all the txt
[18:15] <Dr_willis> wookey_,  check dmesg output, ive never heard of a keyboard freezing up.
[18:15] <fidel_> paperbagblues: you could open it in a visual editor
[18:15] <paperbagblues> fidel_ kk
[18:15] <pratz> hey guys how can i disable the beep sound in ubuntu 12.04
[18:15] <Dr_willis> pratz,  i thought it was disabled by default.. which beep do you mean?
[18:16] <pratz> Dr_willis: open up the terminal and press backspace
[18:16] <kkrauss> I have a noob question about unity myself.  Two actually.  First what happend to alt f10, it doesnt maximize windows anymore.  And is there a way to prevent maximized windows from docking with the menu bar?
[18:16] <wookey_> there are a lot of "nit: ureadahead-other main process (32345) terminated with status 127
[18:16] <wookey_> messages. no idea if that's relevent
[18:16] <Dr_willis> pratz,  no beeping here..
[18:17] <fidel_> paperbagblues: i.e. using: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:17] <pratz> Dr_willis: opps , then how am i getting that
[18:17] <JC617> Anyone running a fully binded NIS Client to a remote NIS Server (just need two things checked)?
[18:17] <fr33loader> is /etc/resolv.conf deprecated in 12.04?  I am making settings in network manager and they are not propogating to the resolv.conf
[18:17] <Dr_willis> pratz,  no idea - gnome-terminal itself has a 'bell' setting..
[18:17] <fidel_> paperbagblues: this will open the texteditor gedit with the apt sources.list file
[18:17] <pratz> Dr_willis: something like duuup duuup
[18:17] <kyubutsu> pratz: check profile preferences , check off 'terminal bell'
[18:17] <pratz> Dr_willis: it's not only gnome terminal
[18:17] <paperbagblues> fidel_: http://pastebin.com/3cSE2ZF5 this is ti after i commeting the cdrom line
[18:17] <fidel_> using sudo permissions to give permissions to edit the system relevant file
[18:17] <kkrauss> also still hoping for a solution to: none of the selected modes were compatible with the possible modes:
[18:18] <vg-loc> i get something into my head now !!
[18:18] <vg-loc> ok i am trying to crawl now !!
[18:18] <vg-loc> so i have to read all the links to start to use ubuntu is it ?
[18:18] <fidel_> paperbagblues: looks good on thefirst quick look
[18:18] <kkrauss> Trying modes for CRTC 434
[18:18] <kkrauss> CRTC 434: trying mode 1280x1024@50Hz with output at 1440x900@50Hz (pass 0)
[18:18] <kkrauss> CRTC 434: trying mode 1280x1024@50Hz with output at 1440x900@50Hz (pass 1)
[18:18] <vg-loc> i have a 12.04 distro somebody plz give me a manual for this !
[18:18] <Dr_willis> pratz,  theres the gnome 'system bell' then theres the system pcspkr beep..
[18:18] <Guest30601> I cannot download ubuntu thru the wubi app because my UK ISP has blocked torrenting any ideas on how to get the system?
[18:18] <paperbagblues> fidel_ thank you
[18:18] <fidel_> paperbagblues: so to finish that up - run: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[18:18] <Dr_willis> vg-loc,  theres online guides on most of it.
[18:18] <Dr_willis> !manual | vg-loc  THis May be outdated
[18:19] <fidel_> this willupdate all package informations - and install all outstanding packages/updates
[18:19] <kkrauss> vg-loc, google is your friend, if you are waiting to get help in here and no one is immediately answering, use google
[18:19] <fidel_> and like that apt has an uptodate state
[18:19] <pratz> Dr_willis: where are these options ?
[18:19] <ceed^> After some updates today I keep getting this error: /usr/share/apport/apport-gpu-error-intel.py My system still works fine, but it keeps popping up. What could be wrong?
[18:19] <fidel_> hf ;)
[18:19] <Dr_willis> pratz,  ive not looked for them lately. never needed to.
[18:19] <JC617> Guest: Encrypt Torrent data, dont allow incomming legacy connections
[18:19] <fr33loader>  is /etc/resolv.conf deprecated in 12.04?  I am making settings in network manager and they are not propogating to the resolv.conf
[18:19] <arturstraczynski> Próbuje czata
[18:19] <JC617> Guest: force encryption
[18:19] <pratz> Dr_willis: cool, i guess i can figure it out
[18:19] <fidel_> !en > arturstraczynski
[18:20] <fidel_> arturstraczynski: what language are you looking for?
[18:20] <mneptok> fr33loader: http://www.stgraber.org/2012/02/24/dns-in-ubuntu-12-04/
[18:20] <paperbagblues> fidel_ thank you i was updated already everthing worked though
[18:20] <JC617> anyone familiar with NIS?
[18:21] <fidel_> paperbagblues: perfect ;)
[18:21] <vg-loc> thanks guys for the help !!
[18:21] <kkrauss> brb all
[18:21] <fr33loader> mneptok: muchas gracias
[18:21] <pratz> Dr_willis: i guess i am using yeahconsole and that's the reason
[18:21] <Guest30601> JC617: I am using forced encryption it still doesn't connect
[18:22] <pratz> Dr_willis: from gnome-termial i disabled it
[18:22] <JC617> guest  did u disbale incomming legacy connections?
[18:22] <Dr_willis> pratz,  each termal app can have its own setting. :) in gnome-termianl its disabled here by default. in the default profile.
[18:22] <pratz> Dr_willis: but can not find a way to disable it from system entirely
[18:22] <fr33loader> i was trying to branch out from arch linux but these "improvements" are making it frustrating
[18:22] <hankenkaye> hi guys just installed my first ubuntu os. last night just want to know if we do have mmorpg for ubuntu that we can download for free
[18:22] <Dr_willis> pratz,  is it the pc spkr beep, or the pulse audio beep.. is the main question.
[18:23] <nimbiotics> where should I go for problems with xserver?
[18:23] <Dr_willis> pratz,  does entering ctrl-g in a terminal make a beep?
[18:23] <pratz> Dr_willis: yes
[18:23] <Dr_willis> pratz,  try the beep command.. is it the same sound?
[18:23] <pratz> Dr_willis: Dr_willis it is the pc speakers
[18:24] <JC617> Recently had same problem with Metropcs blocking legal (Linux Distro ISOs), they blocked the .torrent file(well throttled it to years ETA) and completely blcked all unencrypted torrent traffic even if it was legal
[18:24] <Dr_willis> pratz,  blacklist the pcspkr module.. but thats the default also i thought
[18:24] <pratz> Dr_willis: yes, those are the pc speakers
[18:24] <kurtwp_> who had a question about resolv.comf
[18:24] <Dr_willis> sudo rmmod pcspkr
[18:24] <Dr_willis> :)
[18:24] <Dr_willis> i dont even get a beep with pcspkr loaded..  wonder why..
[18:25] <JC617> guest: even if ur encrypting ur traffic if someone sending to u is unencrypted then it was still blocked, once i changed those two settings in utorrent i was able to download the distro's iso
[18:25] <kurtwp_> fr33loader:  did you get an answer about resolv.conf
[18:25] <Dr_willis> pratz,  for a fun trick --> http://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/view/8275/grub2-set-super-mario-as-startup-tune
[18:25] <JC617> guest : and im sure ubunut has direct http download of there isos...
[18:25] <fr33loader> kurtwp_: indeed I did
[18:26] <kurtwp_> k
[18:26] <fr33loader> kurtwp_: not happy with it but its an answer nonetheless
[18:26] <fr33loader> kurtwp_: i may quickly be switching back to Arch if i run into any more such "improvements"
[18:26] <pratz_> Dr_willis: ERROR: Module pcspkr does not exist in /proc/modules
[18:27] <Dr_willis> pratz,  that is weird..  wonder if somehow its compiled into your kernel.
[18:27] <pratz_> Dr_willis: when i fire this command "sudo rmmod pcspkr"
[18:27] <Dr_willis>  sudo rmmod pcspkr
[18:27] <Dr_willis> root@Speedbuntu:~#
[18:27] <kkrauss> see I figured out my problem myself lol
[18:27] <prabuinet> hi, I got a problem after installing ubuntu on macbook, can anybody help me?
[18:27] <Dr_willis> No error here. :)
[18:28] <kkrauss> prabuinet, just ask the question
[18:28] <kkrauss> Anyone in here have experience with virtual servers?
[18:28] <prabuinet> i'm getting "operating system not found" error
[18:28] <Dr_willis> also no error --> sudo modprobe pcspkr
[18:28] <kyubutsu> whoa.. you run as root, Dr_willis , or thats just a cool username of yours?
[18:28] <kkrauss> oh does your macbook have that weird boot loader on the harddrive maybe
[18:28] <kyubutsu> :-P
[18:28] <pratz_> Dr_willis: sudo modprobe pcspkr did not give error
[18:29] <Dr_willis> kyubutsu,  that was from a root shell i had open.
[18:29] <prabuinet> possible to change the boot loader on mac?
[18:29] <Dr_willis> pratz,  i dont recall grub giving me the pc spkr beeps either.. wonder if my speaker broke. :)
[18:29] <kkrauss> prabuinet, I remember a friend having problems with it, I forget what is called but it was a pain
[18:29] <isabel> hi, my internal mike does not work?
[18:29]  * Dr_willis recalls years ago using special 'tools' to remove pc speakers from the mb.. ;)
[18:29] <L3top> prabuinet: you can look at usplash
[18:29] <pratz_> Dr_willis: guess you are a music lover
[18:30] <isabel> when running alsamixer, it looks like the Mic is "off"
[18:30] <Dr_willis> wonder if the fact i got a HDMI moitor with audio causing issues...
[18:30] <Dr_willis> be back in a few.
[18:30] <isabel> how do i adjust the volume in alsamixer?
[18:30] <kkrauss> Anyone experienced with virtual servers/  Looking for some opinions.
[18:31] <kkrauss> I have used debian squeeze with Xen but was wondering if there were other alternatives
[18:31] <phunyguy> kkrauss: virtualbox
[18:31] <kkrauss> phunyguy, ok whats your reasoning?
[18:31] <fosser_josh> i just installed ubuntu 12.04, feels refresh!!! i have problem with google chrome, when i start google chrome and switch to any other application. google chrome window will get dissappear but process still run in background. Anyone getting similar problem? Does anyone know solution on this?
[18:32] <phunyguy> kkrauss: performance, and ease of setup.
[18:32] <kkrauss> phunyguy, xen was really easy too, but I cant speak on performance
[18:32] <paperbagblues> fosser_josh - does it but a button in the menu bar
[18:32] <phunyguy> its quirky if the server is headless, but other than that its good
[18:32] <kkrauss> fosser_josh, its not vanishing its just locked to the unity dash bar
[18:32] <deadopsarcadehah> hello ^^
[18:32] <pgib> ugh.. Looks like nVidia TwinView is always treated as a huge monitor by any WM I use.  so, I'm back to fucking xinerama.  But of course, I can't do any rotation now!  Holy crap.  Why is it so hard, I've spent two days trying use use 3 monitors.  I've been using Linux since 2004, but this is the first time I want to switch to windows
[18:32] <kkrauss> phunyguy, what I want to do is I have an older system I want to turn into a server, I want web server, possibly a file server, maybe dns etc
[18:33] <kkrauss> pgib, I know two other guys trying to do triview, its not joke and takes time to figure it out
[18:33] <phunyguy> virtualbox then, kkrauss.
[18:33] <L3top> !language | pgib
[18:33] <vitor-br> how to hide disabled accounts in login screen?
[18:33] <kkrauss> phunyguy, should I still use debian squeeze?
[18:33] <L3top> Is there a question pgib?
[18:33] <phunyguy> kkrauss, i wouldnt
[18:34] <kkrauss> phunyguy, what do you recommend?
[18:34] <phunyguy> if you want to go the headless route, use ubuntu server
[18:34] <fosser_josh> kkrauss: but when i try to switch back to google chrome using alt-tab it doesnot show, and even there is nothing on vanity bar, i have to click on google chrome icon again to start, which start new window
[18:34] <kyubutsu> pratz: see that sound icon on top bar? click and select 'sound settings', go to sound effect tab and turn down that slider , try that
[18:34] <phunyguy> if not, use something like lubuntu or xubuntu for lightweight
[18:34] <kkrauss> phunyguy, I do not know what you mean by headless route
[18:34] <nimbiotics> where should I go for help  with xserver?
[18:34] <phunyguy> kkrauss, text based install with no monitor, and ssh access to the box
[18:34] <pgib> L3top, kkrauss, the closest I could get is using TwinView on two monitors, and another monitor as a standalone X screen. This was _tolerable_ however - all the window managers treat the "twinviewed" monitors as a single screen - so things like window maximization and positioning just plain don't work.
[18:34] <kkrauss> phunyguy, eventually yes, I will sipmly ssh in
[18:34] <kkrauss> hold on bathroom break ill be back
[18:35] <pgib> L3top, kkrauss: the next best was to use 3 separate screens under xinerama - but in this mode, I cannot rotate any of the screens :-/
[18:35] <kurtwp_> pgib:  I had the same problem when using the NVIDIA drivers supplied by ubuntu
[18:36] <pgib> I've tried both proprietary nvidia and the free nouveau ones.  nvidia gets be the closest.  nouveau is never able to use more than a single output
[18:36] <OerHeks> vitor-br, here is a howto hide , warning: step 1 should be: sudo -i >>> http://www.tejasbarot.com/2012/04/25/howto-hide-users-list-from-login-screen-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin-linux/
[18:36] <kurtwp_> pgib: but once I reformatted and re-installed 12.04 I now use the DIPLAY found in SYSTEM SETTINGS
[18:36] <kurtwp_> pgib: I can rotate if I choose too
[18:37] <kkrauss> phunyguy, ok back, I am getting different opinions here.  the most common is to use debian squeeze with xen because its easy to set up(I also already know how to do it) and it stays out of your way as my professor quoted, but ou are the second person to say use ubuntu server
[18:37] <L3top> !poll | kkrauss
[18:37] <pgib> kurtwp_, yes. I tried that (I'm using 12.04).  If I set the two screens which are on the same GPU through Gnome's DISPLAY utility, then it doesn't do maximization and such correctly
[18:38] <phunyguy> kkrauss: its my opinion
[18:38] <kkrauss> wow can't ask peoples opinions in here, kind of silly.
[18:38] <phunyguy> i had bad luck with xen
[18:38] <vitor-br> OerHeks, I need just hide a disabled account, not all.
[18:38] <OerHeks> vitor-br, i wonder why disabled accounts appear..
[18:38] <kkrauss> phunyguy, ok well ignoring xen for a moment, what about squeeze vs ubuntu server?
[18:38] <duckxx> "though I use M-b and M-f to move by words"  .. what is M ??? iknow C-a .. tats ctrl
[18:38] <fosser_josh> :)
[18:38] <L3top> there are over a thousand people in here kkrauss. It is a support channel... not a chat room. Your discussion makes it more difficult to help people. Its very simple.
[18:38] <pgib> duckxx, meta (alt)
[18:39] <duckxx> i just installed screen and its interfering with my  bash line editing .. ctrl-a goes hom
[18:39] <pgib> screen will do that
[18:39] <wilee-nilee> vitor-br, what keeps you from just removing it?
[18:39] <wilee-nilee> the account
[18:39] <SetiAmon> So ubuntu keeps freezing up and requiring a cold boot since 12.04 upgrade
[18:39] <vitor-br> OerHeks, me too..
[18:39] <SetiAmon> I am not the only one having this problem here I imagine,anyway to fix this?
[18:39] <kkrauss> SetiAmon, did you upgrade or do a clean install?
[18:40] <OerHeks> vitor-br, oke, then i assume this as a bug?
[18:40] <SetiAmon> upgraded kkrauss
[18:40] <L3top> SetiAmon: Have you looked in any of the logs to see what is crashing?
[18:40] <SetiAmon> it isn't crashing it just freezes up totally,i have to cold boot it
[18:40] <kkrauss> SetiAmon, I would do a clean install
[18:40] <kkrauss> SetiAmon, also I had similar problems but by switching to unity 2d solved everything
[18:40] <L3top> SetiAmon: something is crashing, causing the freeze. Figure out what that is.
[18:40] <smee> any tips on getting flash to work? i've removed it, reinstalled it, updated it, installed the alpha, tried the firefox flash helper, tried 3rd party flash players and still even a simple youtube video will either crash my browser (firefox,chrome,opera) or it'll just have a big empty space where the flash applet should be...
[18:40] <SetiAmon> Were are the logs at l3top
[18:41] <phunyguy> kkrauss: never used squeeze
[18:41] <vitor-br> wilee-nilee, I need some files from this account .. but I can not allow it to be logged in from it ..
[18:41] <smee> running 12.04
[18:41] <pgib> kurtwp_, I also saw that the nvidia drivers have some xorg.conf options for "simulating" the display information that would have been provided by xinerama.  That is, the driver will say "There are two displays, their areas are x,y,w,h etc.." but, in my case, the values are never set (as confirmed by  xdpyinfo -ext XINERAMA)
[18:41] <L3top> SetiAmon: /var/log   dmesg is a good place to start
[18:41] <vitor-br> OerHeks, I don't know.. maybe...
[18:42] <alphanum> Thank God this chan is active
[18:42] <vitor-br> OerHeks, can be expected behavior, I do not know if it has some place that says that ...
[18:42] <alphanum> Anyone geeky here?
[18:42] <OerHeks> vitor-br, if you came here yesterday, you would have filed bug 1000000
[18:42] <smee> i think most people here would be
[18:42] <phunyguy> !ask | alphanum
[18:43] <L3top> do you have a support question alphanum
[18:43] <Resistance> alphanum:  do you have a support question?
[18:43] <alphanum> Yeah
[18:43] <alphanum> But not about Ubuntu
[18:43] <Resistance> !offtopic | alphanum
[18:43] <SetiAmon> L3top: which log is it
[18:44] <L3top> SetiAmon: I am not sure... I would start with dmesg
[18:44] <Resistance> alphanum:  then there's either the offtopic channel, or a better channel elsewhere on freenode or some other network.  just saying
[18:44] <kkrauss> phunyguy, you wouldn't happen to be familiar with how to do a network install would you?  This older machine I have doesnt support usb booting so was wondering if I could some how boot it off my laptop and install from there?
[18:44] <OerHeks> vitor-br, i am looking for simular bugreports, all i find is : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/980843 also odd
[18:44] <alphanum> I have a question about why my Geo Ip script doesn't work correctly w/ IE?
[18:44] <phunyguy> kkrauss: sorry, not really...
[18:45] <alphanum> I guess i will try offtopic
[18:45] <Resistance> alphanum:  not the channel here
[18:45] <phunyguy> kkrauss: maybe you can attach the HDD to the laptop somehow, and install that way, then just plug the drive into the server
[18:45] <kkrauss> alphanum, depending on the time of day there are people in here that will help you with such questions, but thats usually at night when its less active and people are less anal.  for now try offtop
[18:45] <miturn> Hi. I am trying to install Ubuntu from USB stick. Antivirus blocked writing AUTORUN.INF. Can this have influence on the boot process?
[18:46] <phunyguy> miturn: no.
[18:46] <wilee-nilee> miturn, this a wubi install?
[18:46] <Resistance> kkrauss:  wondows questions are offtopic here regardless
[18:46] <Resistance> kkrauss:  other than dualbooting questions, or something
[18:46] <miturn> wilee-nilee: no, the USB pendrivelinux install
[18:47] <phunyguy> miturn: it will be fine
[18:47] <vitor-br> OerHeks, Thanks, I'll search some more...
[18:47] <Guest16605> mm
[18:48] <wilee-nilee> miturn, pendrive has multiple thumb loaders both windows and linux.
[18:48] <SetiAmon> seems like multipul have reported this bug and I imagine it will bre resolved soon enough.
[18:48] <kkrauss> hey phunyguy, you know what this is all a learning experince for me so im going to go outside my shell and try ubuntu server.  have you used 12.04 server?  should I use an older version?
[18:49] <Resistance> kkrauss:  i use 12.04 server, got any specific questions?
[18:50] <smee> any tips on getting flash to work? i've removed it, reinstalled it, updated it, installed the alpha, tried the firefox flash helper, tried 3rd party flash players and still even a simple youtube video will either crash my browser (firefox,chrome,opera) or it'll just have a big empty space where the flash applet should be...
[18:50] <L3top> SetiAmon: any number of things can crash on any number of systems. It could be any combination of things which cause this problem. MOST people have 0 issue with what you are experiencing, but in order for people to identify bugs with specific combinations of hardware/software, we need logs. Figure out what crashed.
[18:50] <kkrauss> Resistance, im using it on an older machine and plan on setting up a virtual server with vm's for web server, file server, possibly dns if I can figure it all out.  Just curious if I should go with a lighter version or stick with 12.04
[18:50] <jsd_> I have an AMD Phenom 9950BE and I'm wondering if U12 needs an AMD power now driver, wondering what apps you'd recommend for monitoring and forcing lower power mode and full power mode for cpu
[18:50] <Resistance> kkrauss:  you can do all of those things on a single item (web server, file server, DNS, all on the same server)
[18:51] <Resistance> kkrauss:  i use it in a low-RAM environment, i subsitituted Apache for nginx, but it works okayish
[18:51] <zyxon> smee: no idea really, worked for me OOTB. Did you do a clean install or an upgrade?
[18:51] <Resistance> i just dont run my own DNS
[18:51] <Resistance> actually that's a lie... but...
[18:51] <L3top> !conky | jsd_
[18:51] <L3top> er...
[18:51] <L3top> !info conky
[18:51] <Osakasa> smee, doesn't help you with flash but youtube html5 works fine
[18:51] <jsd_> thanks L3top
[18:52] <jsd_> and ubottu
[18:52] <miturn> wilee-nilee: cool, thanks
[18:52] <JoshDreamland> Why's the power button instantly shutting down my machine all of a sudden?
[18:52] <kkrauss> Resistance, I was told to use virtual machines by a few different people on here, not really sure why
[18:52] <JoshDreamland> doesn't give mate a chance to ask
[18:52] <kkrauss> Resistance, one guy did say use ubuntu server with apache2 sql and php though
[18:52] <Resistance> kkrauss:  i meant you could use one or two
[18:53] <smee> i'm looking for any final recommendations before i reinstall... it'll be a big hassle for me... this is out media box in the living room... the wife is... impatient.
[18:53] <kkrauss> Resistance, one or two servers?
[18:53] <Resistance> kkrauss:  that's a base setup, i used nginx in place of Apache because APache is resource-intensive
[18:53] <SetiAmon> the bug i am experiencing is reported on launchpad already confirmed.I don't know what to look for on the logs.anyhow it seems like it maybe related to nvidia drivers but i can't switch terminal or anything when it freezes up
[18:53] <Resistance> kkrauss:  no, that came out wrong
[18:53] <Resistance> kkrauss:  i meant one or two VMs for those three services
[18:53] <kkrauss> Resistance, ok so we do agree I want a virtual server then
[18:54] <kkrauss> Resistance, now back to the ubuntu question, is 12.04 ok for me to use or should I use an older version?
[18:54] <L3top> !details | smee
[18:54] <Resistance> kkrauss:  i didnt necessarily say that, but if you are in the mood to use VMs, then you will have to set one up
[18:54] <madwill> Anybody is good with pulse audio under ubuntu 12 ? i'm doing screen capture, it use to offer me a way of capturing audio by selecting it from the recording input
[18:54] <Resistance> kkrauss:  12.04 should be fine, the difference between, say, Oneiric and Precise is marginal (difference between Natty and PRecise is a bit bigger, but...)
[18:54] <kkrauss> Resistance, well I know its outside the realm of what you like to talk about but I am trying to figure out if I should use VM's or not.  Many people say to do so but without giving reason, and there is nothing on the net i can find.
[18:55] <smee> ubuntu 12.04. problem running flash of any type. regardless of browser or flash version..
[18:55] <Resistance> kkrauss:  i dont forsee any real issues using 12.04 in a VM on your machine, but personally i dont see any real reason
[18:55] <Resistance> kkrauss:  to use a VM if you have a spare system lying around
[18:55] <kkrauss> Resistance, well if there is no rason to set up a vmserver, what would you do?
[18:55] <Resistance> kkrauss:  FYI, i've got 6-year-old Dell desktops running Ubuntu Server 11.10, no problems, but those're old salvaged systems
[18:55] <Resistance> kkrauss:  i'd install directly to the drive, but if you have a Desktop environment, you can install server packages right on that
[18:56] <Resistance> kkrauss:  take for example my laptop here
[18:56] <Resistance> kkrauss:  i do a lot of PHP work, so its running nginx + sql + php in addition to Ubuntu Desktop software
[18:56] <Resistance> for testing
[18:56] <L3top> smee: are you using unity 3d?
[18:56] <Resistance> its not internet-facing, but i can run Desktop and webserverstuffs
[18:56] <smee> yep
[18:56] <smee> standard install.. no special apps running.
[18:56] <Resistance> kkrauss:  but this system's only 4 years old, so it can still handle that.  i'm unsure of your specs
[18:56] <L3top> there is a problem with that. Drop to 2d and it shouldnt be an issue smee.
[18:57] <Resistance> kkrauss:  if in yoru case your system is too old to install 12.04 directly, then try a VM
[18:57] <smee> how do i do that?
[18:57] <kkrauss> Resistance, I think you misunderstand
[18:57] <sw0rdfish> how do I restart the DE/GUI from tty2
[18:57] <Resistance> kkrauss:  probably, you're  not being 100% precise (afaict)
[18:57] <sw0rdfish> tty7 has frozen and given me a black screen
[18:57] <kkrauss> Resistance, I dont know how to reword this
[18:57] <L3top> smee: Someone else will have to answer, I don't use unity.
[18:57] <Resistance> kkrauss:  your question is: SHould I use a VM to run an Ubuntu Server instance, or should I do something else.  right?
[18:57] <smee> i'll look it up... thanks l3top
[18:57] <zyxon> L3top: flash is running flawlessly using unity3d on 12.04 amd64
[18:57] <L3top> sw0rdfish: service lightdm restart         would be my guess
[18:58] <smee> i'm using amd3200
[18:58] <Resistance> (or am i even close)
[18:58] <L3top> zyxon: interesting. I have seen a lot of issues in here with the two.
[18:58] <kkrauss> Resistance, I have an older dell desktop I want to turn into a server.  I want it to eventaully have dokuwiki on it that can be accessed from outside the network, I want a file server so any machine on my network can access files on another etc.  DNS just for fun maybe things like that
[18:58] <L3top> smee: can I get the output of lspci -nn | grep VGA
[18:58] <zyxon> L3top: imma consider myself lucky then... :D
[18:58] <Resistance> kkrauss:  you mean like my setup :P
[18:59] <kkrauss> Resistance, so I was going to set up a virtual server.  I have done this with squeeze before, then start a couple of vm's, one for the web server, one for the file server, and again maybe one for the dns.
[18:59] <Resistance> kkrauss:  you can run each of those services on the same server, only open the ports you need to the outside world
[18:59] <L3top> smee: are you using the native radeon driver or the proprietary fglrx?
[18:59] <Resistance> kkrauss:  hmm, my question then:
[18:59] <sw0rdfish> L3top, ok
[18:59] <smee> nativer
[18:59] <smee> l3top : native
[18:59] <kkrauss> and thats where the question is, do I even need virtualization and if not why do so many people keep telling me I do lol
[18:59] <Resistance> kkrauss:  that'd be overkill, if they're all going to be Ubuntu.  why do you want to run multiple VMs for that?
[18:59] <L3top> Ok, can I get the output of the lspci above?
[18:59] <L3top> smee^
[19:00] <Resistance> kkrauss:  the question is what you'd rather do:  run multiple servers and multiple VMs for each service, or have a single box running one instance of Ubuntu Server, with all the services at the same place
[19:00] <Resistance> kkrauss:  personally, i dont see the necessity for multiple VMs
[19:00] <Resistance> that's overkill, IMO
[19:00] <smee> l3top : 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RV570 [Radeon X1950 Pro] [1002:7280] (rev 9a)
[19:00] <kkrauss> Resistance, and to me that makes more sense I agree with you but being a novice I doubt my self, and many peopel are telling me to use VM's
[19:00] <Resistance> kkrauss:  which "people" :P
[19:00] <L3top> I am afraid you are stuck with that driver smee.
[19:00] <kkrauss> other people from here, I cant remember names
[19:00] <sw0rdfish> hmmmmm
[19:01] <kkrauss> also an old college professor who knows what the hell he is talking about, but he isnt answring me right now in irssi and I could have just misunderstood him
[19:01] <smee> l3top : is there a work around? flash was working just fine up till an update i did one day...
[19:01] <Resistance> kkrauss:  i think the question is what you'd rather do: set up each VM and its networking right, or run an isntall yourself
[19:01] <Resistance> also
[19:01] <kkrauss> Resistance, " I would do it in a set of VMs, only because I am typically running many services, and that can lead to confusing
[19:01] <kkrauss>               problems in the event of problems. By keeping services isolated, I can better work with configurations and know there
[19:01] <kkrauss>               are no weird indirect dependencies."
[19:01] <Resistance> !privmsg | kkrauss
[19:01] <sirriffsalot> Is there some command for disabling login notifications in KVIrc?
[19:01] <Resistance> !pastebin | kkrauss
[19:02] <fosser_josh> on minimize google chrome window dissapear in ubuntu 12.04, not even display on unity bar or not able to find using alt-tab. any solution?
[19:02] <sirriffsalot> Is there some command for disabling login notifications in KVIrc?
[19:02] <sw0rdfish> that did it thanks L3top .... when the DE/GUI started it showed some message about the battery in a black screen.... any idea how i can get that now?
[19:02] <Resistance> kkrauss:  i understand what they're saying, but they have different reasons
[19:02] <sw0rdfish> think it continued on the set of messages when the OS is first booting cuz I saw some network-related messages above it.
[19:02] <Resistance> the hell?
[19:02] <Resistance> kkrauss:  wrong button?
[19:02] <L3top> smee: I would look at your logs, see what updated...
[19:03] <kkrauss> and I used the wrong command to leave private chat lol
[19:03] <kkrauss> Resistance, yes sir! lol
[19:03] <L3top> sw0rdfish: I am not sure sorry
[19:03] <Resistance> kkrauss:  in any case, lemme tell you what my interpretation is of their statement:
[19:03] <L3top> kkrauss: make sure that you explain to them you are using crap equipment with few resources as well.
[19:03] <Resistance> kkrauss:  my interpretation is they've got one box that has other services on it already, and for their sake they split up other services into VMs so as not to confuse themselves
[19:03] <kkrauss> Resistance, he is old school though, all self taught, still uses aptitude, hates any graphical interface.  Loves debian but not a fan of ubuntu since it gets in his way lol
[19:03] <Resistance> kkrauss:  virtualization isnt a low-resource thing
[19:03] <jsd_> dumb question I'm sure, conky installed thru software center on ubuntu 12, couldn't find it in dash, didnt auto start either.  Removed it, then did the sudo install thru terminal, not sure where the program is to start it, like I said, dumb question
[19:03] <smee> l3top : i'm too much of a noob to get that done... i think i'm going too have to reinstall.
[19:04] <Resistance> kkrauss:  if you've got an old crap system (several-year-old Dell), dont go with the virtualization optiion
[19:04] <L3top> smee: poke around in /var/log
[19:04] <Resistance> kkrauss:  since you're not going to be running a ton of services, installing directly to the system's drive would probably be all you need, then install/configure the services you need
[19:04] <kkrauss> ok Resistance that is what I was looking for, I am downloading 32 bit server 12.04 now
[19:04] <zyxon> smee: try installing the proprietrary driver first
[19:04] <Resistance> kkrauss:  :P
[19:04] <L3top> smee: wait... out of curiosity, please apt-cache policy fglrx | grep Installed
[19:05] <kkrauss> Resistance, ive never done anything outside of a virtual server and vm's though so this will all be new to me, also having to do everything through console with now gui is going to be interesting
[19:05] <smee> l3top : Installed: (none)
[19:05] <L3top> smee: I would not listen to zyxon. your chipset is specifically not supported.
[19:05] <Resistance> kkrauss:  well...
[19:05] <Resistance> kkrauss:  you could do what i did, install Ubuntu Desktop, then install server packages in that
[19:05] <Resistance> then you still get the GUI
[19:05] <L3top> smee:  I would expect no display on return, and a lot of purging has to happen to get back
[19:05] <Resistance> (that's how most of my systems are set up_
[19:06] <smee> l3top : crap :-/
[19:06] <ixion> hi, can anyone tell me how to install Ubuntu.. from inside Ubuntu ?
[19:06] <kkrauss> Resistance, now again my mentors preferences are seeping into me, he strongly urged against using desktops as they ate up resources, but couldnt I simply not start X after everything si setup the way I want?
[19:06] <ixion> (not a live CD)
[19:06] <Resistance> kkrauss:  ubuntu server doesnt install X automatically
[19:07] <zyxon> ixion: in a virtual machine, or what?
[19:07] <Resistance> kkrauss:  you'd have to install an environment after the fact
[19:07] <L3top> nothing personal zyxon. This is just an area I deal in daily. I handle automatic detection/install for gpus and generate custom xorgs for our project. That driver will cause problems on that gpu.
[19:07] <kkrauss> Resistance, no option for it during install?
[19:07] <Resistance> nope, not on the Server CD
[19:07] <wcchandler> i installed a package that had a broken .postrm in the deb.  it's been updated in the repo, but I can't re-install it as it complains about being in a failed state.  what's the best way out of this?
[19:07] <kkrauss> Resistance, that was something else I was hoping to be able to do, network booting with OS install options, but my professor said that takes mirroring of the distros
[19:07] <ixion> Zyxon. I dont have a CD drive, or a USB stick. I have a ubuntu installation which I am in at the moment and I wish to install Ubuntu onto another partition/disk etc
[19:07] <auronandace> !info ubiquity | ixion
[19:07] <ixion> so I want to install Ubuntu, from inside Ubuntu
[19:08] <kkrauss> Resistance, is there no real difference betwen ubuntu desktop with server packages and ubuntu server?
[19:08] <wcchandler> ixion: look into debootstrap
[19:08] <Resistance> kkrauss:  only on what's installed
[19:08] <auronandace> kkrauss: they use the same repos
[19:08]  * Resistance has to disappear
[19:08] <zyxon> L3top: no offense taken. I didnt see the part where he mentioned his lspci :P
[19:09] <gionnico> Hi!
[19:09] <gionnico> can someone help me to recover a mdadm / IMSM RAID 0 ?
[19:09] <gionnico> one drive of the 2 was faulty. so i created an image of it. and removed the drive.
[19:09] <ixion> wow ubiquity has a lot of dependencies (240mb) . I will try that though, thanks
[19:09] <gionnico> i loop mounted the image to /dev/loop1 : losetup /dev/loop1 /mnt/backup/image.img
[19:09] <gionnico> but mdadm doesn't seem to accept /dev/loop1 as the missing device of the array
[19:09] <kkrauss> hmm So Resistance so burn 12.04 desktop instead, download necessary packages set everything up then just kill X?
[19:09] <gionnico> # mdadm /dev/md/imsm0 --add /dev/loop1
[19:09] <gionnico> mdadm: /dev/loop1 is not attached to Intel(R) RAID controller.
[19:10] <prpplague> greetings all, anyone have experience getting 12.04 up and running on the cranky toshiba C655?
[19:10] <ixion> can I boot into the ISO while stored on my HDD? loop mount?
[19:11] <kkrauss> no we are almost back to what I was originally going to do but tyler in here told me not to, I was going to do this: http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/build-linux-web-server-computer-part-1/
[19:11] <auronandace> ixion: grub2 can do that, never tried it though so i wouldn't know how
[19:11] <gionnico> ixion, exactly. # mount -o loop -t iso9660 /mnt/image.iso /mnt/cdrom
[19:11] <gionnico> you'll need # modprobe loop before that if you dont have loop module loaded already
[19:12] <ixion> gionnico, I need to run the Ubuntu installer from HDD not just mount the ISO
[19:12] <gionnico> ixion, no that's not possible unless you want to install within a virtual environment
[19:13] <kkrauss> Resistance, I guess that is my last question and I'll leave you alone you have been more than helpful, albeit a little short lol, the howto I was orignally going to used said to use 10.10, do you agree with that or should I use 12.04, maybe something different?
[19:13] <ixion> so from inside a full ubuntu installation (not live) I cannot install Ubuntu onto another HDD / Partition ?
[19:14] <gionnico> ixion, you really could but the ubuntu iso is not the way to do that.
[19:14] <auronandace> ixion: http://michael-prokop.at/blog/2009/05/25/boot-an-iso-via-grub2/
[19:14] <gionnico> you should create the filesystem alone, then copy rootfs contents, then chroot
[19:14] <gionnico> and install grub to that disk mbr
[19:14] <L3top> 1204 will have more hw support, which probably wont matter for your older equipment. I wasn't being short with you, I did not invent the factoid, it was an offtopic discussion you insisted on having in main channel, creating a lot of crap for me to read past in order to try and help people. I am sorry if you do not understand the reason for the guideline kkrauss.
[19:15] <ixion> !info uniquity
[19:15] <ixion> bah
[19:15] <jarek> Hi
[19:15] <ixion> !info ubiquity
[19:15] <gionnico> auronandace, that's a trick. he asked to do that within ubuntu. if he can boot from grub then its bios will also boot !
[19:15] <jarek> where should I place Gtk3 themes?
[19:15] <jarek> if I put them into ~/.themes/ then they are not showing in "Appearance" panel
[19:15] <NiamorGclvs93> Hello, i'm new, i'm french teen and I LOOOVE Ubuntu, i use every dat !! But here, there is a channel french ? PS : Sorry for my mistakes but i'm french :$
[19:16] <NiamorGclvs93> every day*
[19:16] <miturn> OMG it's long time I've been using linux, and now I see "Inside Windows Install" ?  Is it full featured option?
[19:16] <OerHeks> !fr | NiamorGclvs93
[19:16] <paulehoffman> I think I'm missing something obvious. If I attach a pluggable SATA device to the system after it is booted, how do I get Ubutu to rescan the devices and see it?
[19:16] <ixion> miturn, yeah... Im using it now
[19:16] <kkrauss> L3top, you are a wound a little tight my friend.  I was showing my appreciation and joking around with you, its all good.
[19:16] <locoguano> need "Advanced Settings" for custom themes
[19:16] <auronandace> gionnico: he asked if he can load a livecd just using the iso on the harddrive to
[19:16] <auronandace> too
[19:16] <miturn> ixion: what is filesystem then?
[19:16] <kkrauss> L3top, again i sincerely appreciate your help.
[19:17] <NiamorGclvs93> Thanks
[19:17] <trism> jarek: the themes in System Settings/Appearance are hardcoded in 11.10-12.04, install gnome-tweak-tool to change the themes
[19:17] <L3top> Thats why we are here kkrauss, to help... not be anal.
[19:17] <Cedric2> hello!
[19:17] <kkrauss> my final question is do newer versions actually run more efficiently?  Like with windows, sometimes its better to run older versions as they will run better, si that the same with ubuntu?
[19:17] <wawowe> miturn: it's a large dummy file on the ntfs partition formatted to ext4 or whatever fs you choose
[19:18] <ixion> miturn, tbh I havent looked to see what it does, but I presume it stores everything in a single file on the NTFS FS
[19:18] <Cedric2> Usually new ubuntu vers have improved performance
[19:18] <OerHeks> kkrauss old versions, old kernels
[19:18] <L3top> kkrauss: in the case of unity, I would say absolutely not. This opinion does not make me popular.
[19:18] <ixion> kkrauss, recent versions of Ubuntu have targeted boot performance etc and are much faster to boot
[19:18] <Papamatti> Hellp
[19:18] <Papamatti> Hello
[19:19] <kkrauss> well I doubt unity will even run on my older machine, I will more than likely have to run 2d just like this laptop which is better hardware
[19:19] <Cedric2> Unity? CHILDREN DONT WATCH THIS! (f*ck that sh*t) YOU WATCHED D:
[19:19] <kkrauss> but once my services are set up and running
[19:19] <Papamatti> I have a problem with the software-center and purchased software
[19:19] <kkrauss> I am going to shutX off anywya
[19:19] <Cedric2> I like gnome classic WAY more
[19:19] <L3top> kkrauss: then I would go with the newer kernel.
[19:19] <Jordan_U> !language | Cedric2
[19:19] <Cedric2> ok
[19:19] <kkrauss> So I guess all this babbling has led me to this, install 12.04 desktop to old machine, download server packages, soemthing happens, shut off x, profit.
[19:19] <Cedric2> : )
[19:19] <paulehoffman> Bump: I think I'm missing something obvious. If I attach a pluggable SATA device to the system after it is booted, how do I get Ubutu to rescan the devices and see it?
[19:20] <OerHeks> This is my bootchart, i think i shouldn't tweak more >> http://picpaste.com/oerpc-precise-20120516-1-0cFYcLY8.png
[19:20] <Cedric2> So, the reason I came here:
[19:20] <L3top> paulehoffman: define pluggable SATA device
[19:21] <Cedric2> Is there a way to like... have a full-screen application running, but not covering the whole screen? (Small app in middle, black on the sides)
[19:21] <kkrauss> L3top, out of curiosity are you familiar with how to set up network installs using ubuntu?
[19:21] <ixion> !info mirrors
[19:21] <paulehoffman> L3top: External SATA drive connected to a SATA connector on the motherboard. drop in a drive, turn it on.
[19:21] <ixion> anyone know the URL to get list of mirrors
[19:21] <paulehoffman> Works on reboot, but I don't want to reboot.
[19:21] <L3top> paulehoffman: that sounds like an awesome way to blow things up.
[19:22] <L3top> kkrauss: distributed installs? or setting up complicated networking?
[19:22] <ixion> ooh https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+cdmirrors
[19:22] <OerHeks> paulehoffman works only with a hotswap bay
[19:22] <paulehoffman> L3top: that sounds sad. I was hoping there was a "rescan /sdx" style command.
[19:22] <L3top> what OerHeks said
[19:22] <paulehoffman> OerHeks: it is a hotswap bay, but there was nothing in the bay when I booted.
[19:22] <kkrauss> L3top, in my lap at my university, we were able to boot off the network and install a plethora of operating systems
[19:23] <chipotle_> how do i enter a shell and always have root privlieges? i am tired of entering sudo for each command...
[19:23] <kkrauss> L3top, if I could set that up for myself that would be pretty cool but something tells me its not easy task
[19:23] <Papamatti> I have a problem with reinstalling purchased software with the software-center after an upgrade from ubuntu 11.10 to 12.04 !!!
[19:23] <kkrauss> L3top, well for you maybe, bu not for me
[19:23] <L3top> kkrauss: We do a lot of PXE booting, slim clients... but they have no HDs and we do not install... so none I am afraid.
[19:23] <wawowe> paulehoffman: could try loading the kernel module for the drive
[19:23] <Jordan_U> paulehoffman: Is this hotplugging working in another OS? Generally you shouldn't need to do anything to get a new device to show up.
[19:23] <wylde> !netboot | kkrauss
[19:24] <keithb> chipotle_: sudo -s
[19:24] <paulehoffman> wawowe: sounds OK. How?
[19:24] <kkrauss> thanks wylde !
[19:24] <chipotle_> keithb: thanks!
[19:24] <wawowe> paulehoffman: or maybe check the init scripts and see how it's scanned in the first place on booting
[19:24] <kkrauss> L3top, I see a minor problem with 12.04 desktop, its requires a gig of ram
[19:24] <pino33> quasi amici
[19:25] <L3top> kkrauss: as I said... I am not particularly fond. Try kubuntu. SOMEHOW it has become the lightweight alternative.
[19:25] <wawowe> paulehoffman: boot up with it plugged in then do lsmod > plugged
[19:25] <wylde> kkrauss: np, I run an LTSP here I use the lubuntu-desktop for the client machines :)
[19:25] <paulehoffman> Basicially, I would love "rescan /dev/sdx and don't touch /dev/sdax, which are already running"
[19:25] <OerHeks> paulehoffman, oke, i understood it was just a regular sata port , see > sudo partprobe  ( found @ http://serverfault.com/questions/5336/how-do-i-make-linux-recognize-a-new-sata-dev-sda-drive-i-hot-swapped-in-without  )
[19:25] <wawowe> paulehoffman: then reboot with it unplugged and do lsmod > unplugged & diff plugged unplugged
[19:26] <wawowe> &&*
[19:26] <stars69> hi guys, how can i make desktop sharing application start on startup mode?
[19:26] <paulehoffman> OerHeks: <reading>
[19:26] <kkrauss> ahh overwhelmed again
[19:26] <kkrauss> so I should ust kubuntu instead for my server?
[19:26] <wawowe> paulehoffman: altho the module is probably built into the kernel so you may have to compile your own
[19:26] <miturn> How is home folder encryption done? I was unable to select it during installation because of the underlaying tool crashes
[19:27] <wawowe> paulehoffman: then again it ubuntu uses initramfs so maybe not
[19:27] <L3top> hard to say definitively, I can only tell you that this is what I have done kkrauss
[19:27] <Griz64> brother just updated his machine and now it refuses to boot, dropping him at a grub prompt. is there a good 'rescue URL' anyone can recommend that i use to help him over the phone?
[19:27] <kkrauss> what is kubuntu exactly? im not familiar with it
[19:27] <L3top> !kubuntu
[19:27] <zyxon> miturn: Wow, really? It didn't crash using the first issue CD
[19:28] <L3top> same backend, different front end kkrauss.
[19:28] <kkrauss> ahhh
[19:28] <wylde> kkrauss: it's ubuntu with the KDE desktop environment and toolsets.
[19:28] <kkrauss> the front end is what makes it run more efficiently right?
[19:28] <kkrauss> its nto going to matter once I turn x off
[19:28] <zonetti> How can I "cat" a file into a variable in bash script?
[19:29] <zyxon> cat 'filename' > $trololo iirc
[19:29] <wylde> zonetti: doesn't sound like the proper method, but I don't really know. I bet the folks over in #bash would have some good ideas/tips for you.
[19:29] <wawowe> Griz64: boot from the ubuntu installer and chroot, then run apt-get -f install
[19:29] <zonetti> wylde, okay (meme face)
[19:30] <kkrauss> wylde, at this piont I am wondering if i am better off just using ubuntu server and learning how to do everything through the shell
[19:30] <ericP> without adding indicator to the panel, i have controls for wifi and bluetooth (in fact, two for bluetooth) but no volume control.
[19:30] <ericP> running gnome-control-center gives me five buttons: Language Support, Ubuntu One, Additional drivers, Bluetooth, Printing.
[19:30] <zyxon> zonetti: ^
[19:30] <ericP> adding indicator gives me a button which mostly successfully runs `gnome-control-center sound`.
[19:30] <zonetti> zyxon, ?
[19:30] <Griz64> wawowe, got a good url for chroot'ing a ubuntu machine?
[19:30] <ericP> i can't run that from the command line (could not find panel "sound").
[19:30] <zyxon> zonetti: cat 'filename' > $trololo iirc
[19:30] <wylde> kkrauss: that's what I used to do, now I have a thin-client setup next to this machine I use for connecting to my "server" heh
[19:31] <yeehaw> zyxon: Something like: for i in `cat file`; do something with $i; done;
[19:31] <kkrauss> wylde, thinclient?
[19:31] <ericP> when i'm in that indicator-spawned control panel, i have the full complement of panels
[19:31] <ondra>  ChickenCutlass run test Mike, but files are created with system user and group
[19:31] <wylde> kkrauss: old pc that boots over the network from the server box.
[19:31] <wawowe> Griz64: no but, from the boot disc: passwd && sudo su
[19:31] <yeehaw> zyxon: Or in a script you could do: i=`cat filename`
[19:31] <ericP> i'm using xfwm4 (though i recall it happening with other wms), with a fresh 12.04 install and an old home directory with old dot files from a 10.04
[19:31] <paulehoffman> Nope, no happiness here. I'll give up and reboot. Thanks for the suggestions, though!
[19:32] <kkrauss> wylde, once my server is set up im going to plug it right into my router and leave it alone, anything Ill need to do will be via ssh, so I should learn how to do everything through command line
[19:32] <Jordan_U> zyxon: That will copy contents of "filename" to the file whose name is stored in $trololo.
[19:32] <ericP> i can't run indicator all the time 'cause it gets in the way of my network controls (its network controles are impotent)
[19:32] <wawowe> Griz64: no but, from the boot disc: mount /dev/sda1 /mnt; mount -o bind /dev /mnt/dev; mount -t proc proc /mnt/proc; chroot /mnt
[19:33] <wylde> kkrauss: absolutely, it's actually not that bad.
[19:33] <kkrauss> I have definitely been overwhelmed by the knowledge people in here possess.  I am going to go to gym and then come back and try t his
[19:33] <kkrauss> wylde, I saved the site you gave me, does that give me a simple way to install server off off one of my other pc's via the network so I dont have to burn a cd?
[19:34] <kkrauss> wylde, you should have been here a while ago and seen waht my original plan was, I was going to install a virtual server then have vm's for each service I wanted lol
[19:34] <wylde> kkrauss: it should cover it. My advice is to take your time, do a bit of research then work at implementing it.
[19:35] <kkrauss> wylde, well if it is something complex I can simply burn a cd its not a huge deal
[19:36] <wylde> kkrauss: it's not overly complex. (once you understand the process) :)
[19:36] <kkrauss> heres an odd ball question, I finally got my nvidia driver working in 12.04 and it has a temperature censor.  my core temps dont go above 50c but my gpu temp is hovering at around 70c is that normal?  This is a laptop .
[19:37] <eugenio_> buona sera mi occorre un consiglio su xubuntu a chi poso chiedere? grazie
[19:38] <wylde> !it | eugenio_
[19:38] <yeehaw> kkrauss: What kind of videocard is it?
[19:38] <kkrauss> nvidia geforce go 6100
[19:38] <kkrauss> nightmare card to get working in ubuntu
[19:39] <yeehaw> kkrauss: Since it's dedicated and in a laptop it should not be a problem
[19:39] <eugenio_> grazie
[19:39] <L3top> not really... you just need to apt-get install nvidia-glx-175 for it
[19:39] <ubunlex> hello
[19:39] <kkrauss> just seemed odd to me it was so much higher than my cpus
[19:39] <kkrauss> ok gym time, be back to try and berak things!
[19:39] <L3top> I believe... kkrauss if you can get me the output of lspci -nn | grep VGA   on it
[19:39] <ubunlex> some help to share files between os thanks
[19:40] <L3top> I can tell you exactly what to do.
[19:40] <yeehaw> L3top: He already has it working
[19:40] <L3top> But I work with PCI Id's... not models...
[19:40] <Griz64> wawowe, ran the "apt-get -f install" in the chroot'd environ and nada.
[19:40] <L3top> oh... my bad.
[19:40] <Edler> hey guys
[19:40] <L3top> ty yeehaw
[19:40] <yeehaw> L3top: :-)
[19:40] <Edler> what's the default Mail Transfer Agent that comes in ubuntu 10.04lts
[19:40] <ubunlex> hey guys new guy needs help
[19:40] <ubunlex> with network please help
[19:41] <wylde> !details | ubunlex
[19:41] <ddn> hello, anybody has solved modem problems with ZTE usb mobile broadband?
[19:41] <ubunlex> ok
[19:41] <Sheldon42> ubunlex, What's the problem?
[19:41] <wawowe> Griz64: check /var/log/dmesg
[19:41] <guntbert> Edler: I don't think there is a default one, postfix is recommendable
[19:42] <Edler> well i rented a cloud server
[19:42] <Edler> installed php
[19:42] <Griz64> wawowe, how would he go about just reinstalling grub2 ?
[19:42] <Edler> tried mail() and it worked
[19:42] <ubunlex> i installed samba, i  am emulating w7 on virtual machine, also i have a laptop but they dont see each other and not themself
[19:42] <Edler> i'm assuming they had postfix already on ?
[19:42] <guntbert> ddn: what kind of problems? what model?
[19:42] <Griz64> wawowe, or would he want to do a dpkg-configure on it?
[19:42] <wylde> !grub | Griz64
[19:42] <yeehaw> Edler: Check if sendmail is installed
[19:43] <wawowe> Griz64: from outside chroot: cat /etc/mtab /mnt/etc/mtab
[19:43] <L3top> ubunlex: what VM
[19:43] <wawowe> Griz64: from inside chroot: grub-install /dev/sda
[19:43] <ubunlex> oracle vbox
[19:43] <L3top> ubunlex: How did you setup the nic in setup?
[19:44] <ubunlex> but i have two physical computers
[19:44] <L3top> I thought the issue was making the vm install communicate with the others
[19:44] <Kyle__> Anyone here used the webupd8team java ppa?  Just looking for experiences before adding it.
[19:44] <L3top> I will re-read
[19:44] <guntbert> !enter | ubunlex
[19:45] <L3top> !ppa | Kyle__
[19:45] <ubunlex> no actually i could transfer files once but then all disappear
[19:45] <Kyle__> L3top: I know that part :) was just hoping someone here would have experience with it, positive or negative.
[19:45] <ubunlex> !enter
[19:46] <guntbert> Kyle__: I've read some not too happy comments about webupd8
[19:46] <chiara> !list
[19:46] <Patate> Plop ! =)
[19:46] <L3top> Kyle__: you are breaking 3 guidelines in your query. This is a support channel, you are polling for opinions on unsupported repos in a support channel.
[19:46] <ddn> hello, anybody has solved modem problems with ZTE usb mobile broadband?
[19:46] <Kyle__> L3top: Sorry sorry.
[19:46] <Patate> Rhoula
[19:47] <chiara>  /msg ubottu !bot
[19:47] <Kyle__> psst chiara, we can hook you up with some 1337 copies of octave and gimp.  They don't even need a liscence key!  Think of it as pre-hacked.
[19:48] <guntbert> Kyle__: no off topic comments please
[19:48] <gdawg522> hey what's going on
[19:49] <yeehaw> gdawg522: 21:49  up 4 days,  9:31, 4 users, load averages: 0,37 0,18 0,16
[19:49] <bbbbbbbb> how do i update gimp to 2.8?
[19:49] <gdawg522> join #android-dev
[19:50] <yeehaw> bbbbbbbb: sudo apt-get update -qq && sudo apt-get upgrade -y
[19:50] <guntbert> gdawg522: you need / as first character in the line
[19:50] <bbbbbbbb> yeehaw: thx
[19:50] <gdawg522> guntbert: thanks for the help
[19:50] <gdawg522> first time in IRC
[19:51] <Kyle__> bbbbbbbb: If it's in the repo, apt-get update;apt-get upgrade will update it.  if it's not in the repo yet, compile it, or find a PPA.
[19:51] <gdawg522> we have to sit in an IRC channel for 30 minutes and observe traffic
[19:51] <guntbert> ddn: I ask once more: what kind of problems? what model?
[19:51] <guntbert> !ot | gdawg522
[19:51] <bbbbbbbb> Kyle__: I don't know how to compile, do you know a PPA for 2.8?
[19:52] <gdawg522> ubottu:  THnaks ill move there now
[19:52] <gdawg522> i need a channel with a lot of traffic
[19:52] <mnaser> I have an ubuntu VM (12.04) that keeps losing network connectivity for no reason… I don't see any errors or anything, it just stops (the vm is still runinng fine)
[19:53] <guntbert> gdawg522: you are welcome to listen here - but restrict your comments to support
[19:53] <ubunlex> help, network configuration, i am running samba but i cant transfer files or see the others computers please some help
[19:54] <guntbert> ubunlex: are you talking about virtual machines?
[19:54] <BlackMetalIvy> I have ubuntu 10.10 set up on an acer aspire one but network will not work on an hp mini netbook series?
[19:54] <scottsim> Hi all, I've just installed 12.04 on a desktop with a dual monitor config, and the display manager only detects one monitor, and claims that it's a laptop. This is only in X11, the virtual terminals appear mirrored on both monitors. Any ideas how to fix this?
[19:54] <ubunlex> no i have two physical machines desktop laptop
[19:54] <Kyle__> bbbbbbbb: I don't, haven't looked for one.  err, holdon
[19:54] <Kyle__> !ppa
[19:55] <nexu5> Hi
[19:55] <T-Guy> Do you believe that all muslims are terrorists?
[19:55] <keithb> scottsim: have you tried displays from system settings?
[19:55] <Kyle__> bbbbbbbb: Look on that launchpad page ubottu just posted.  I think you can search there
[19:56] <yeehaw> !offtopic > T-Guy
[19:56] <Galvatron> To safely revert the changes made by a PPA one must installed a program called "ppa-purge"
[19:56] <scottsim> keithb: That's where I'm looking -- it just shows one of the monitors, and identifies it as a laptop.
[19:56] <L3top> ubunlex: You have described 3 machines, one is running ubuntu (version?) with a win7 install in VM, and another machine, which you have not specified. You refer to all as one, or other. We need details to try and help you.
[19:56] <bbbbbbbb> Kyle__: alright, thanks!
[19:56] <irule> hi, I am having trouble with a network that get internet from a cable company, all secured websites timeout their DNS, plus most non-secured wenbsites also timeout DNS, how may I fix this?
[19:56] <xangua> yeehaw: not really something for here of ot, don't feed the troll
[19:56] <yeehaw> xangua: Point taken :-)
[19:56] <irule> I tried 8.8.8.8 but it is being blocked by the cable company
[19:57] <keithb> scottsim: so clicking on on detect displays doesn't help?
[19:57] <kwixson_> None of the online tutorials are making any sense to me... How do I bridge a wireless connection to an Ethernet connection?
[19:57] <twister_> Since upgrading to 12.04, I can't mount Windows shares -- even though I can access them through smbclient.
[19:57] <yeehaw> scottsim: Did you install a Graphics driver
[19:57] <scottsim> keithb: Nope :-(
[19:57] <amikrop> Hello. Is the auto-hide lancher option supposed to make the left column-like launcher disappear until you mouse-over it?
[19:57] <amikrop> Because it doesn't.
[19:57] <amikrop> It just makes its background somewhat transparent
[19:58] <Kyle__> Humm.  Do you need to recycle a box for apt-get remove to remove old versions of java?
[19:58] <ubunlex> i have two machines: desktop ubuntu 12.04 and laptop ubuntu 12.04 i want to transfer files between them principally, i can forget about virtual machine thats not important right now
[19:58] <keithb> scottsim: is it an Nvidia card? I have a machine with one and I have to use the Nvida display tool...
[19:58] <amikrop> It still gets in the way (it is over) of my maximized windows
[19:58] <amikrop> How can I make it disappear?
[19:58] <scottsim> yeehaw: Not explicitly, only the ones that come with the distro by default.
[19:58] <amikrop> I mean, when I maximize a window I don't want the launcher to e over it
[19:58] <scottsim> keithb: It is a nvidia card. I'll try the tool and let you know -- thanks!
[19:58] <kwixson_> I tried installing Firestarter as some sites suggested, but it didn't work.
[19:59] <yeehaw> scottsim: Check 'Additional drivers' in prefernes
[19:59] <amikrop> Or at least the window should maximize until the laucher and not under it
[19:59] <Kyle__> ubunlex: an easy way would be to install openssh-server on both, and scp the files between them.  It's not like mounting a network drive, but it's easy.
[19:59] <amikrop> If not over it
[20:00] <ubunlex> Kyle_ thanks
[20:00] <L3top> Kyle__: I would expect apt-get autoremove would work...
[20:00] <twister_> Using the same credentials file, I can use smbclient and it connects -- but mount.cifs or mount.smbfs fails with mount error 13 "Permission denied"
[20:00] <scottsim> keithb, yeehaw: The nvidia tool did the trick. Thanks! :)
[20:00] <yeehaw> amikrop: http://askubuntu.com/questions/9865/how-can-i-configure-unitys-launcher-auto-hide-behavior/106673#106673
[20:00] <Kyle__> L3top: Me too, but the javaws from openjdk-6-jre is still there.
[20:00] <yeehaw> amikrop: Did you try the slider?
[20:01] <keithb> scottsim: np, glad it worked
[20:01] <L3top> interesting Kyle__. I guess you should try purging it.
[20:01] <yeehaw> twister_: Also with sduo ?
[20:01] <yeehaw> twister_: sudo
[20:02] <twister_> I've also tried browsing in nautilus, using "connect to server", and configuring fusesmb and smbnetfs... all fail with "permission denied".
[20:02] <twister_> yeehaw, yes, I was using sudo as appropriate in each case.
[20:02] <amikrop> yeehaw: I turned auto-hide on, but all it did was make the launcher's background transparent. It never makes it hide and it gets in the way of my maximized windows :S
[20:03] <yeehaw> amikrop: Do you have the sensitivity on high?
[20:03] <amikrop> yeehaw: no it's on default
[20:03] <yeehaw> amikrop: Try putting it the highest
[20:03] <ddn> hi guntbert saw not your message
[20:04] <Gardel_> hi, since I upgraded to 12.04, the keyboard layout option to add the Esperanto circumflexes doesn't work anymore, do someone know something about this issue?
[20:04] <amikrop> yeehaw: nothing, it never disappears
[20:04] <ddn> guntbert: used to work long time ago, now I am in 12.10 and is not recognized by network manager
[20:04] <Kyle__> L3top: Oooh.  Interesting.  icedtea-7-plugin requires icedtea-netx, which provides a copy of java-6 javaws.
[20:05] <alphanum> Hello
[20:05] <alphanum> Where would I go to ask a question related to Photoshop?
[20:05] <Galvatron> ddn: What 12.10? Alpha 1 is not even released yet.
[20:05] <guntbert> ddn: 12.10? then #ubuntu+1
[20:05] <yeehaw> amikrop: You could try this: http://askubuntu.com/a/43708
[20:05] <ddn> ubuntu 12.04 sorry
[20:06] <mnaser> I am using 12.04 LTS VM and I am losing network connectivity for no reason at all.. it just disappears, any clues?  Syslog doesn't point to anything at all
[20:06] <abcminiuser> Hey all
[20:06] <L3top> I remember that now that you mention it Kyle__. Good investigating.
[20:06] <abcminiuser> Just tried to run a app downloaded from a site under latest Ubuntu x86, but I get "unexpected reloc type in static binary"
[20:06] <abcminiuser> Any ideas?
[20:06] <yeehaw> mnaser: What platform?
[20:06] <mnaser> yeehaw: The hypervisor used is Xen
[20:06] <guntbert> ddn: what happens?
[20:07] <mnaser> yeehaw: Running latest everything, had the same issue with 2.x kernel and 3.x -- updating once again now
[20:07] <yeehaw> mnaser: Do you have the same issue with a different VM?
[20:07] <Kyle__> L3top: I wonder if it makes a difference... I mean java6 is gone, so it'll be running java 6's webstart binary against java7.. Humm.
[20:07] <amikrop> yeehaw: gconf-editor does not run. I just click on it and nothing happens
[20:07] <ddn> guntbert: the modem is not listed/recognized by network manager to connect
[20:07] <mnaser> yeehaw: yes, few other Ubuntu VMs facing the same exact issues, however CentOS/Windows ones don't lose anything
[20:07] <L3top> I don't know that it will... it may in fact be hardcoded to 6 due to some change.
[20:07] <yeehaw> amikrop: In the terminal
[20:07] <L3top> I would investigate further.
[20:07] <Galvatron> abcminiuser: What app and from which website? A *.deb package from outside the official repos once erased my entire HDD (it had a certain script inside).
[20:07]  * Kyle__ nods
[20:08] <yeehaw> mnaser: So it's definitly Ubuntu or the combination of Xen and ubuntu
[20:08] <abcminiuser> Galvatron, it's the official Atmel AVR toolchain, a variant of GCC
[20:08] <guntbert> ddn: is it shown by lsusb?
[20:08] <ddn> guntbert: yes
[20:08] <mnaser> yeehaw: aware of that, just don't know where to go, I've mostly used CentOS so i dont know :x
[20:08]  * L3top is afk
[20:09] <abcminiuser> Galvatron, not a deb, but a gz I've extracted out and added to my path - I chmod +x'd the bin files
[20:09] <ZaNeIuM> what dose the -r in 'cp -r file.sh .' do?
[20:09] <abcminiuser> ZaNeIuM, recursive
[20:09] <ddn> guntbert: http://pastebin.com/TSaLiTKt
[20:10] <guntbert> ddn: one simple solution I used:  after plugging it in it was recognized as a CD, so I typed     eject sr1, waited a little and could connect
[20:10] <ZaNeIuM> co it would copy eveything in a folder
[20:11] <guntbert> ddn: if I remember correctly thats the same I did use
[20:11] <amikrop> yeehaw: the laucher did not hide (and never does) but at least that started causing the auto-hide option when I get it to Off, to make maximized windows until the launcher, and not under it
[20:11] <ddn> guntbert: will try, however is not listed as a cd
[20:11] <yeehaw> mnaser: I don't have hand ons experience with Xen, but I'll try a search. What's the type it emulates
[20:12] <twister_> Anyone on with Samba expertise?
[20:12] <amikrop> yeehaw: so it didn't really fix the never hiding launcher problem, but at least I can see the whole of my maximized windows
[20:12] <guntbert> ddn: you can open another terminal, type there   tailf /var/log/syslog     and watch what happens
[20:12] <amikrop> yeehaw: should I file a bug then?
[20:12] <ndee> hi there, how can it be that the process "portmap" uses around 20% of the available memory? (16GB)
[20:12] <xxiao> after dd to a disk, it seems umount will not guarantee the write to the disk, instead sync will, correct?
[20:12] <yeehaw> amikrop: You could, but you should reproduce it on a clean install first really
[20:13] <xxiao> as dd bypasses the filesystem so umount might not work reliably?
[20:13] <amikrop> yeehaw: I am on a clean install
[20:13] <mnaser> yeehaw: i believe it doesnt emulate something in specific, it uses the xen networking driver
[20:13] <Mischinka> This is an odd question but does anyone know how to unlock a blackberry?
[20:13] <Mischinka> lol
[20:13] <twister_> ndee: some versions of NFS utilize portmap.  Are you using NFS file shares?
[20:13] <ikonia> Mischinka: it's offtopic in here
[20:13] <ikonia> please don't ask
[20:13] <farkerhaiku> apologies for asking again, my laptop power died.  how would you go about adding the global menu if you decide to use a different window manager like fluxbox?  I've written a python app to read the entries supplied by the ubuntumenuproxy (like file, edit, help, etc), but I'm not seeing how to enable hiding the menu in applications.
[20:14] <ndee> twister_: no.
[20:14] <ddn> guntbert: http://pastebin.com/5QR8QzEc
[20:14] <Mischinka> ikonia: sorry
[20:14] <ikonia> not a problem
[20:14] <yeehaw> mnaser: This could be useful: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/728519
[20:14] <twister_> ndee: I don't know then, not sure what else uses it.  It's kinda outdated...
[20:15] <mnaser> yeehaw: read through that same post not long ago and wontfix and doesnt look like anything was created
[20:15] <guntbert> ddn: I've seen that, thats why I said it is the same as mine :-)
[20:15] <Kyle__> twister_: ndee: I beleive nfsv3 over tcp doesn't need it.
[20:16] <ndee> twister_: I'm running just a LAMP installation actually. Is there a way to see, what is exactly accessing portmap?
[20:16] <yeehaw> mnaser: Did you read this too? http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=631102 It's debian but that doesn't really matter
[20:16] <ddn> guntbert: http://pastebin.com/LeV8JLGE
[20:16] <Z_God> I'm using unity for the first time and I get this: https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-_jFNgoV2lZA/T7QKmWfk2OI/AAAAAAAAAy0/4a3BGqj8MLA/s902/Schermafdruk+van+2012-05-16+22%3A12%3A52.png
[20:16] <amikrop> yeehaw: I cannot file a bug, ubuntu-bug says development for Precise is over so I should work this through with technical support. What should I do?
[20:17] <Z_God> does anybody know why this stuff at the top is all duplicated?
[20:17] <twister_> ndee: Not sure.  That's not an area I'm familiar with.
[20:17] <Z_God> I don't need it twice
[20:17] <yeehaw> mnaser: Are using the free version or the Supported version?
[20:17] <ndee> so strange, mysql is using 4GB, apache 2GB and portmap also 2GB
[20:17] <mnaser> yeehaw: using xen 3.4 but centos dom0
[20:18] <yeehaw> mnaser: I'm sorry, but since I have no experience with Xen (only VMWare and Hyperv), I can't really give any good advice on where too lok
[20:18] <yeehaw> mnaser: look
[20:19] <mnaser> yeehaw: no problem.. I understand, I'll try to do some more research
[20:19] <xangua> Z_God: this may help http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/how-to-reset-unity-launcher-icons-or.html
[20:19] <yeehaw> mnaser: success!
[20:19] <guntbert> ddn: I remember that part  too, but eventually it did "take" - I have not tried it in 12.04 though
[20:20] <Z_God> xangua: thanks I tried it, it reloaded things but the double stuff is still there
[20:20] <eFfeM> hi, anyone any idea how i can get the insserv executable in precise? it is not in the package: http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/i386/insserv/filelist
[20:20] <mnaser> yeehaw: ill let you know regardless
[20:20] <ddn> guntbert: it used to work long time ago, however I have updated and now...
[20:21] <guntbert> ddn: sorry, then - I will have to try soon
[20:23] <farkerhaiku> how would you go about adding the global menu if you decide to use a different window manager like fluxbox?  I've written a python app to read the entries supplied by the ubuntumenuproxy (like file, edit, help, etc), but I'm not seeing how to enable hiding the menu in applications (the menu shows up twice - once in my app and once in the app that was started)
[20:27] <Peri_> Hello, I have a late 2011 macbook pro 13 inch. I have installed ubuntu 12.04 and it tells me the firmware is missing for the wireless to work. can someone help me fix this/
[20:28] <L3top> Peri_: is this the bcm 4133?
[20:28] <L3top> er...
[20:28] <guntbert> ddn: I have a slightly different one: Bus 002 Device 005: ID 19d2:0015 ZTE WCDMA Technologies MSM, and it still seems to work
[20:28] <Peri_> L3top: I am not sure what that means. How do I check?
[20:28] <L3top> 4331?
[20:28] <L3top> Peri_: lspci | grep Wireless
[20:28] <wilee-nilee> Peri_, run lspci in the terminal and tell us the card
[20:29] <wilee-nilee> Peri_, L3top command is more precise
[20:29] <OerHeks> Peri_, this guide should still work > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro8-2/Oneiric
[20:29] <Peri_> 03:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4331 802.11a/b/g/n (rev 02) 04:00.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): LSI Corporation FW643 PCI Express 1394b Controller (PHY/Link) (rev 08)
[20:29] <bonny> mongo: Are you here?
[20:29] <L3top> can I call em or can I call em?
[20:30] <yeehaw> L3top: nice
[20:30] <Guest73757> How do i install flashplugin on ubuntu 12.04
[20:30] <Peri_> L3top: is that information correct?
[20:30] <yeehaw> Guest73757: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install flash-player
[20:30] <L3top> Peri_: that card does not claim to be supported by the bcm driver. I will try and google any answer to this, but most have given up before I  can get a working solution
[20:31] <Peri_> oh, okay. thanks L3top
[20:31] <OerHeks> L3top, Peri_ , the usr gives the mac info with ppa suited for your bcm >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro8-2/Oneiric
[20:31] <OerHeks> *usr/url
[20:31] <Guest73757> Unable to locate flashplayer package
[20:31] <Guest73757> wait i didnt update
[20:31] <yeehaw> Guest73757: sorry, I meant sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[20:32] <L3top> ah... thanks OerHeks, I knew it involved a PPA, but didn't realize you had already given the link.
[20:32] <kevin__> Hi. have just installed 12.10 upgrade and thunderbird does not see and of my email configs, mint 10.12 etc are all fine any ideas
[20:32] <Guest73757> That wont work
[20:32] <Guest73757> someone told me i think it was mongo
[20:32] <Guest73757> said  i haev to get rid of some ppa
[20:32] <yeehaw> Guest73757: What output does it give?
[20:32] <xangua> yeehaw: Guest73757: sudo apt-get instal flashplugin-installer
[20:32] <Guest73757> Im not sure..
[20:32] <L3top> Guest73757: Try and keep your replies to a single line... what version of ubuntu are you on?
[20:33] <Guest73757> 12.04
[20:33] <BurritoBazooka> Hi, my friend installed Ubuntu last night (he has Windows too on the same computer). He has a problem with GRUB - it says 'no such partition' and then goes to grub rescue. What would cause this? He says he set Ubuntu's partition as active after installing. Would that cause GRUB to become confused?
[20:33] <xangua> kevin__: mint is not supported here
[20:33] <kevin__> I am on gnome 12>10 upgrade
[20:33] <Guest73757> Can someone send me link for paste ubuntu
[20:33] <L3top> !info flashplugin-installer | Guest73757
[20:33] <Guest73757> so i can show u
[20:33] <robin_debspace> Hello everyone!
[20:34] <L3top> !pastebin | Guest73757
[20:35] <Guest73757> http://paste.ubuntu.com/991311/
[20:35] <Guest73757> Thats it right there
[20:35] <L3top> why are you using a PPA for flash Guest73757?
[20:35] <Guest73757> What?
[20:36] <Guest73757> It worked in earlier versions
[20:36] <ddn> guntbert:
[20:36] <newbied3m0n> alguno que controle backtrack
[20:36] <robin_debspace> OK… So I just installed Ubuntu 12.04 on my MacBook Pro and got it dual booting with Mac OS just fine, and all seems to work… However, I'm having an issue with the wireless LAN chipset as it seems. It was identified as a Broadcom device, however the Network Manager and nm-tool indicate that there is no firmware. I already tried running sudo apt-get install fw-43-install which worked at first, but then stated that an unsupported chipset was found
[20:36] <L3top> Flash is in the main repo Guest73757.
[20:36] <yeehaw> Guest73757: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install  flashplugin-installer
[20:36] <xangua> newbied3m0n: /join #backtrack-linux
[20:36] <Guest73757> I did that already
[20:36] <BurritoBazooka> if I set a partition as active after the Ubuntu installer is complete, would it cause the UUID to change and then GRUB to be confused?
[20:36] <Guest73757> my youtube still said missing plugins..
[20:37] <L3top> Guest73757: as yeehaw said... but I would get rid of those ppas
[20:37] <yeehaw> Guest73757: No you did not
[20:37] <Guest73757> How do i get rid of those?
[20:37] <ddn> guntbert: now this worked, but is a shame is not more transparent https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/modemmanager/+bug/891307 smiki comment
[20:37] <OerHeks> Guest73757, restart your browser after install
[20:37] <yeehaw> Guest73757: You installed flash-player, not flashplugin-installer
[20:37] <Galvatron> robin_debspace: Pastebin the output of "lspci" nad "lsusb"
[20:37] <xangua> Guest73757: that ppa has not been maintained a long time, and it's no longer necesary (the PPA web itself says it...)
[20:37] <Guest73757> Trust me i haev tried
[20:37] <yeehaw> Guest73757: flash-player does not exist
[20:37] <Guest73757> Mongo told me to get rid of ppa or something
[20:38] <L3top> robin_debspace: seems to be the day for that problem. Check https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro8-2/Oneiric
[20:38] <Guest73757> My bad
[20:38] <Guest73757> It works now
[20:38] <belgianguy> hi, I have this odd screen distortion whenever I boot
[20:38] <belgianguy> http://imgur.com/R1bEb
[20:38] <Guest73757> How come it didnt work yesterday
[20:38] <Guest73757> He told me samething
[20:38] <guntbert> ddn: I agree that it is tiresome - but an glad that you got it sorted :)
[20:38] <L3top> !enter | Guest73757
[20:39] <belgianguy> it happens between the login screen and the showing of the desktop
[20:39] <robin_debspace> L3top: Oh, so I'm not the first? Cool :-) OK, will check that site, thanks!
[20:41] <ddn> guntbert: me too, really, good bye
[20:41] <newan> it is possible to show the networkspeed in the thunar filebrowser on xubuntu 12.04
[20:42] <Peri_> I am not able to do this step: Create or edit the file /etc/pm/config.d/modules and make sure the wireless modules (b43 and bcma) are blacklisted:   SUSPEND_MODULES="b43 bcma"
[20:42] <Peri_> what do I do?
[20:42] <stars69> hi guys, I installed tcl8.4 packagr but missing some files, does someone have this files by change splite3/libtclsqlite3.so
[20:43] <trism> stars69: install libsqlite-tcl
[20:43] <trism> stars69: sorry libsqlite3-tcl
[20:43] <dimitri> i have a problem with winff with ubuntu 12.04 64.... the message is : Undefined constant or missing '(' in 'mv0'
[20:44] <Peri_> OerHeks I need your help
[20:44] <stars69> trism, thanks
[20:44] <dimitri> i installed only winff   ....some lib lost ?
[20:44] <StFS> Hi. I just installed a package with apt-get and it went fine, however, when I open aptitude it notifies me of dependency issues. Is there an apt command that analyses the dependencies and reports what is broken?
[20:44] <martian> How can I check what version of mod_autoindex is shipped with ubuntu's apache package?
[20:45] <OerHeks> Peri_, open terminal: gksudo gedit /etc/pm/config.d/modules
[20:45] <robin_debspace> L3top: Thanks again for that link, I think this should help me to get it working! Just one thing, what backport do I have to use for Precise? Is it the same or a different one?
[20:45] <OerHeks> Peri_, look for those modules and put # in front of that/those lines
[20:46] <Peri_> What do you mean look for the modules
[20:46] <Peri_> where do I find them?
[20:47] <OerHeks> Peri_, if that file doesn't exist, make one and fill it with SUSPEND_MODULES="b43 bcma"
[20:47] <stars69> trism, libsqlite3-tcl is already the newest version.
[20:47] <stars69> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 93 not upgraded.
[20:47] <stars69> I can't find that
[20:47] <Peri_> OerHeks: I have done that, am I supposed to install anything here? Then install the linux-backports-modules-cw-3.2-oneiric-generic or, if you have the pae kernel installed, the linux-backports-modules-cw-3.2-oneiric-generic-pae package.
[20:47] <duckxx> when apt-get install pear .. i get a 404 error:   http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/5375/croppercapture188.jpg   -- how do i go about resolving this? do i have to update my package index ?
[20:48] <duckxx> apt-get is like the apple app store right? just want to make sure..
[20:48] <OerHeks> Peri_, yes, according to that page
[20:48] <Peri_> OerHeks: How do I do that. I tried the sudo apt-get install command, but it failed
[20:50] <trism> stars69: then the library is at /usr/lib/tcltk/sqlite3/libtclsqlite3.so
[20:50] <Friel> Is it possible to play Steam games on Ubuntu that have been downloaded through Steam? Can only find guides that use an ISO or DVD.
[20:51] <e2b04836> Friel: do you have steam installed?
[20:52] <Friel> e2b04836: yep
[20:52] <OerHeks> Peri_, ah, first enable backports in software sources
[20:52] <whickey15> Im interested in Squid Proxy. Does squid cache websites?
[20:53] <mackneye> is there ever the problem of filenames being too long in ubuntu? (i know it happens in Windows)
[20:53] <e2b04836> whickey15: yes, squid can be configured to cache
[20:53] <yeehaw> mackneye: nope
[20:53] <Peri_> OerHeks: I am in the software sources but i dont see anything called backports
[20:53] <mackneye> thanks yeehaw
[20:54] <auronandace> !backports | Peri_
[20:54] <wilee-nilee> Peri_, 3rd tab
[20:54] <OerHeks> Peri_, see the tab updates
[20:55] <T-Guy> I can't open torrent:// magnet links with my torrent client, Transmission ?!
[20:55] <aemaeth> !whoopsie
[20:55] <Peri_> OerHeks:backport is already enabled
[20:56] <Logan_> !info whoopsie | aemaeth
[20:56] <aemaeth> Logan_: thanks, that was unsettling to see
[20:56] <T-Guy> I can't open torrent:// magnet links with my torrent client, Transmission ?!
[20:56] <whickey15> e2b04386: thanks, Im looking through the config file, is there something that needs to be uncommented? or a section that needs config?
[20:57] <e2b04836> !patience | T-Guy
[20:58] <Xpl01t> !ls $a in \mathbb{Z}^{*}_q \mbox{;  } T_A = g^a$
[20:58] <Xpl01t> wtf ;(
[20:58] <Xpl01t> !l $a in \mathbb{Z}^{*}_q \mbox{;  } T_A = g^a$
[20:58] <Logan_> Xpl01t: Stop that, please.
[20:58] <Xpl01t> !l $a in \mathbb{Z}^{*} \mbox{;  } T_A = g^a$
[20:58] <Xpl01t> !l $a in \mathbb{Z}_q \mbox{;  } T_A = g^a$
[20:59] <yeehaw> Could someone ban him?
[20:59] <e2b04836> whickey15: i'm not entirely sure try the squid wiki
[21:00] <whickey15> sure while I search, i just wanted to send out the question again: has anyone configured squid proxy to cache sites for their internal network?
[21:01] <eFfeM> guys any idea where I can find the insserv program? installed the package but it does not seem to be there any more; used to be in /sbin in 11.10
[21:01] <eFfeM> not there in 12.04
[21:01] <fully_human> Hello.  In curl if I'm outputting to a file, how do I tell curl to update the file.  I only see an append option and I'm afraid that'll append the downloaded file all over again.
[21:02] <fully_human> *update the file?
[21:03] <fully_human> Like if I'm curling "ABCDEFG," and I stop it after "F" and restart, will my downloaded file look like "ABCDEFABCDEFG?"
[21:03] <e2b04836> eFfeM: try 'which insserv'
[21:04] <eFfeM> e2b04836: which does not return anything, insserv package is installed, whereis insserv lists files
[21:04] <eFfeM> e2b04836: package list: ./html/lib/platform.rb
[21:04] <eFfeM> oops wrong paste
[21:04] <eFfeM> e2b04836: http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/i386/insserv/filelist
[21:05] <eFfeM> oneiric filelist has /sbin/insserv: http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/i386/insserv/filelist
[21:12] <giga2> is there anyone here that might help with a problem
[21:12] <wawowe> what's the problem
[21:14] <giga2> I have downloaded and installed ubuntu 12.04 32 bit I have tried to install the game called five or more but when I click on it nothing happens
[21:16] <OerHeks> giga2 oke, select the gameboard en go up to the top panel, and choose Game > New
[21:16] <phy1729> Is there an fairly easy way to make a ubuntu-desktop install a ubuntu-server install?
[21:16] <OerHeks> giga2, it does not auto-start
[21:16] <giga2> It shows as being installed
[21:17] <StreetBall> hi phy1729, have you try to google for some meta-package?
[21:17] <StreetBall> i know that there are some meta-packages for "transform" from Ubuntu, to Xubuntu, to Kubuntu, but i never google for the analog for server
[21:17] <phy1729> StreetBall: there is a meta package iirc but how does one remove it?
[21:18] <StreetBall> in any case, might be an issue for disabling the ctrl+f7 desktop session, which provide graphical login.
[21:18] <wawowe> phy1729: install which ever servers you need, openssh-server, mysql-server, apache
[21:18] <wawowe> phy1729: and apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop; apt-get --purge autoremove
[21:18] <phy1729> Well I'd like to get rid of all the desktop cruft too
[21:18] <StreetBall> and also, wireless connections managed by the network control panel need to be set up via boot scripts
[21:19] <phy1729> StreetBall: it's all wired
[21:19] <wawowe> && i mean
[21:19] <phy1729> wawowe: thanks will try tonight
[21:19] <StreetBall> that saves a lot of fightin', phy1729
[21:20] <phy1729> yep it's our gateway / other linux server things box but the previous admin decided to put desktop on it
[21:21] <giga2> OerHeks the game never opens from dash to even get to the game board
[21:21] <StreetBall> it's a pretty "neat and recent" pc? If the answer is "no", maybe it's time to get "trained" for configuring a better and more recent version..
[21:22] <StreetBall> in any case, phy1729, maybe a deep clean for packages can be done with aptitude
[21:22] <phy1729> trained mening?
[21:23] <phy1729> It's fairly old but I don't think I have another box handy that supports 3x1GE cards
[21:23] <StreetBall> means that maybe should be a nice idea to start with another pc for "replicate" services done from your gateway
[21:23] <StreetBall> yikes!
[21:23] <StreetBall> 3x1gb cards?
[21:24] <StreetBall> quite a lot of bandwith
[21:24] <phy1729> yep it's quite nice
[21:24] <StreetBall> have you got faster-than-100mbps internet connection?
[21:24] <phy1729> well two are external one internal
[21:24] <phy1729> we do indeed
[21:25] <phy1729> being in college is nice like that
[21:25]  * StreetBall thinks that italian ISP sucks...
[21:25] <StreetBall> in any case...
[21:25] <StreetBall> i linkd you the list of Ubuntu metaPackages
[21:26] <StreetBall> maybe removing the one for your desktop version will remove also the "graphical crap"
[21:26] <phy1729> I'll try tonight to minimize user downtime
[21:27] <StreetBall> it's always a good advice... be careful and plan a lot of "moves" before doing them
[21:27] <StreetBall> and also: backup, sir!
[21:27] <phy1729> always always backup
[21:27] <arno__> Hi, Is it possible to install ubuntu from windows
[21:28] <arno__> I've read about wubi, but it looks like it does not remove windows.
[21:28] <StreetBall> arno__, you want to remove windows, are you sure?
[21:28] <ikonia> arno__: no,
[21:28] <arno__> StreetBall: yep, I'm sure
[21:29] <wawowe> arno__: you could use a wubi install to chainload tinycore or another toram system, then install from there
[21:29] <StreetBall> so, arno__, you need to boot from the CD or pendrive, than you have to delete existings partions on you hard drive, then you will remove windows and can install ubuntu/whatever you want into your hard drive
[21:30] <arno__> StreetBall: problem is I forgot my usb key
[21:30] <StreetBall> try with a CD...
[21:30] <arno__> I don't have one
[21:30] <StreetBall> no way out, as far as i know, arno__
[21:31] <StreetBall> ...
[21:31] <StreetBall> is your pc a laptop?
[21:31] <arno__> yes
[21:31] <StreetBall> maybe you can use an SD Card..
[21:31] <wawowe> arno__: i've done what i just suggested, in a similar situation
[21:31] <arno__> wawowe: how would I install from tinycore ?
[21:31] <StreetBall> some laptops can boot from the card reader
[21:31] <arno__> can I debootstrap or something ?
[21:32] <StreetBall> ...
[21:32] <wawowe> arno__: you would use gparted to resize the ntfs partition so you have about 5gb of space, then copy the filesystem from the wubi file into it after you format it
[21:32] <arno__> StreetBall: I have no device at all..
[21:33] <wawowe> arno__: then change it a little and install grub
[21:33] <wawowe> arno__: finally delete the windows partition and expand into
[21:33] <wawowe> it
[21:33] <StreetBall> sorry, wawowe, but there's a little bug for me...
[21:33] <StreetBall> Does wubi write the linux filesystem into an NTFS file or am I wrong?
[21:34] <wawowe> it writes it into a file that's on the ntfs partition, yeah
[21:34] <ThePaRaDoX> ./j help
[21:34] <ThePaRaDoX> dfas
[21:34] <ThePaRaDoX> sorry
[21:34] <StreetBall> ok... how can gParted safely resize the NTFS partition while Ubuntu is running from WUBI?
[21:34] <wawowe> like a virtual machine
[21:35] <wawowe> ubuntu isn't running from wubi
[21:35] <StreetBall> but from tinycore?
[21:35] <wawowe> yeah
[21:35] <wawowe> or something similar that runs completely in ram
[21:36] <wawowe> you'd extract the initramfs and the kernel from the iso and put them in the wubi install
[21:38] <xiu21> anybody good with figuring out why email might be getting rejected? :
[21:38] <xiu21> Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the recipient domain. We recommend contacting the other email provider for further information about the cause of this error. The error that the other server returned was: 550 550 #5.1.0 Address rejected. (state 13).
[21:39] <StreetBall> the remote server don't accept email
[21:40] <farkerhaiku> using a different window manager and trying to get the global menu to work: i figured out that the "gtk-shell-shows-menubar" signal returns different values when using fluxbox vs ubuntu's window manager, so i'm wondering if anyone knows where ubuntu sets that in the GtkSettings object... is it set when unity-2d-panel is started?
[21:43] <ubuntunobody> hi, ubuntuone-installer hangs (python related?) is this normal for ubuntu 12.04 ?
[21:43] <arno__> will that not work instead https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromWindows#The_netboot_approach ?
[21:45] <lion22> is anyone here running on anonymous-os
[21:45] <wawowe> lion22: haha that openbsd thing?
[21:46] <lion22> ya
[21:46] <Resistance> !offtopic | lion22, that's not necessarily on-topic for this room
[21:46] <wawowe> probably not, i don't think they ever worked on it again after the first release, plus it's a live cd
[21:48] <lion22> ok i know i just wanted to know if one of u were
[21:51] <stars69> i just d/led thhis file what is the cmd to install it anyone libsqlite3-0_3.7.9-2ubuntu1_i386.deb?
[21:52] <Resistance> stars69:  that should be in the repos...
[21:52] <StreetBall> stars69, try to do sudo apt-get install libsqlite -f
[21:52] <StreetBall> sorry...
[21:52] <StreetBall> libsqlite3 -f
[21:52] <Resistance> stars69:  any reason you downloaded it instead of doing apt-get install on that?
[21:53] <stars69> is said i already has this installed, bit it wasn't
[21:54] <beatiful_sora> hello, can i ask a question
[21:54] <stars69> all i need is this file libtclsqlite3.so
[21:54] <wawowe> beatiful_sora: no
[21:54] <beatiful_sora> wawowe: why
[21:54] <ikonia> beatiful_sora: of course you can
[21:54] <wawowe> beatiful_sora: :p
[21:54] <beatiful_sora> ikonia: thank you very much
[21:54] <ikonia> wawowe: do not miss-lead people like that, it's a support channel
[21:54] <stars69> Resistance, can you check see if u have this file for me plz?
[21:55] <beatiful_sora> okay my question is: my son set me up ubuntu and i phoned him with a problem, he said, go on "irc link" he placed on my desktop
[21:55] <beatiful_sora> and ask the question there
[21:55] <Resistance> stars69:  try `sudo apt-get install libsqlite3-tcl` without the ` characters
[21:55] <stars69> Resistance,  Done
[21:55] <stars69> E: Unable to locate package libsqlite3
[21:55] <wawowe> beatiful_sora: ask away :)
[21:55] <Resistance> stars69:  wrong package
[21:55] <Resistance> do what i specifically said
[21:56] <StreetBall> what a piece of silly son, beatiful_sora ...
[21:56] <filwit> hi
[21:56] <indian> any one please tell how to disable compiz in 12.04
[21:56] <stars69> Resistance,  yes what i did  sudo apt-get install libsqlite3 -f
[21:56] <stars69> Reading package lists... Done
[21:56] <stars69> Building dependency tree
[21:56] <stars69> Reading state information... Done
[21:56] <stars69> E: Unable to locate package libsqlite3
[21:56] <beatiful_sora> so my question is: why when my other son has used the laptop, he has open a black screen he has typed 'sudo rm-rf', and now it won't go away
[21:56] <FloodBot1> stars69: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:57] <Resistance> stars69:  you didnt read
[21:57] <StreetBall> stars69, try with "sudo apt-get remove libsqlite3 && sudo apt-get install libsqlite3"
[21:57] <beatiful_sora> and he says he has done samething funny but won't tell me what it is, what is this and how do i get rid of it, it is annoying
[21:57] <Resistance> stars69:  try `sudo apt-get install libsqlite3-tcl` without the ` characters
[21:57] <filwit> I just installed Ubuntu 12.04, and am wondering if installing a .emerald theme is possible
[21:57] <Resistance> StreetBall:  no, the package with that file is libsqlite3-tcl
[21:57] <Resistance> on precise
[21:57] <wawowe> beatiful_sora: do you mean "sudo rm -rf /"
[21:57] <Resistance> !danger | wawowe
[21:57] <Resistance> !ops
[21:57] <beatiful_sora> wawowe: that is the correct one
[21:58] <StreetBall> okay Resistance, bench time for me :)
[21:58] <wawowe> beatiful_sora: that's bad
[21:58] <stars69> Resistance,  did that many time, it doens istall
[21:58] <beatiful_sora> wawowe: do you know how to get rid of it, the black screen won't go away. it has a flashing black line
[21:58] <filwit> can I install a .emerald theme on Ubuntu 12.04?
[21:58] <Resistance> IdleOne:  sorry, i misread what they said, seeing that command gets a... response... since its a dangerous command
[21:58] <beatiful_sora> wawowe: sorry if this is a silly question
[21:58] <wawowe> beatiful_sora: try hitting "ctrl+alt+f3"
[21:59] <Resistance> stars69:  what's the ***EXACT COMMAND*** you're using, and which ubuntu are you on
[21:59] <Resistance> and what errors do you get
[21:59] <ikonia> beatiful_sora: hang fire there for a moment please
[21:59] <beatiful_sora> ikonia: hang fire?
[21:59] <ikonia> beatiful_sora: hold on
[21:59] <ikonia> beatiful_sora: you didn't type anyhing wawowe said did you ?
[21:59] <stars69> 12.04 let me paste it to your PM
[21:59] <beatiful_sora> ikonia: okay thank you :)
[21:59] <beatiful_sora> ikonia: i have not
[21:59] <filwit> 12.04 work with .emerald themes?
[21:59] <Resistance> !pastebin | stars69
[22:00] <Known_problems> how to enable the location bar in Nautilus, for manual insertion of paths ?
[22:00] <ikonia> beatiful_sora: ok, great, I susgest getting helping but ignoreing wawowe he won't be in the channel any more
[22:00] <filwit> Known_problems: Go(menu)>Location, or Ctrl-L
[22:00] <wylde> !emerald | filwit
[22:00] <Known_problems> filwit, thanks
[22:01] <beatiful_sora> ikonia: okay where has wawowe gone?
[22:01] <filwit> ubottu: okay, thank you for the info
[22:01] <filwit> lol
[22:01] <filwit> wylde: thank you for the info
[22:01] <wylde> filwit: np :)
[22:02] <beatiful_sora> is anyone able to help me with my prolem?
[22:02] <toxster> Hi, i upgraded a box to 12.04 today, and moved my udev rules.d 70-persistent-usb.rules, basically its a FTDI adapter which should create a symlink, but its not working on 12.04, any changes i've missed?
[22:03] <beatiful_sora> is someone able to help me with my problem? i still have flashing white line, black 'window' with rm-rf, my son has done this and i do not know how to close
[22:04] <beatiful_sora> he keeps laughing and saying it is a joke
[22:04] <wawowe> beatiful_sora: does ctrl+alt+f3 give you a new screen?
[22:04] <toxster> bah! missed carriage return when i pasted
[22:04] <beatiful_sora> wawowe: i was told not to press crtl alt f 3
[22:04] <toxster> sigh.
[22:04] <beatiful_sora> wawowe: by ikonia
[22:04] <wawowe> beatiful_sora: that was a misunderstanding
[22:05] <ikonia> beatiful_sora: it was my mistake, apologies
[22:05] <beatiful_sora> ikonia: okay thank you
[22:05] <beatiful_sora> wawowe: what will this do?
[22:05] <schultza> has bitchx been dropped from the packages list?
[22:06] <wylde> !find bitchx
[22:06] <wawowe> beatiful_sora: it should open another tty that may allow you to login
[22:06] <beatiful_sora> wawowe: okay thank you, what it is a tty?
[22:06] <wawowe> beatiful_sora: a terminal
[22:06] <beatiful_sora> wawowe: ah okay thank you
[22:07] <schultza> so it was remerged with the epic.. ok
[22:07] <beatiful_sora> wawowe: okay i have press this, no visible change, is this correct
[22:07] <wawowe> beatiful_sora: you said you see a white blinking line?
[22:08] <wawowe> beatiful_sora: unless there was a ton of stuff in the home directory, the install is most likely destroyed
[22:08] <MrKeuner> wawowe, I would make him delete that command first
[22:08] <wawowe> beatiful_sora: try ctrl+c
[22:08] <beatiful_sora> wawowe: yes, the white blinking line, above it says, 'sudo rm -rf', then window is titled 'sora@sora-laptop'
[22:09] <xiamx> what should i do if i want to apply a mainstream patch to a package on my local machine?
[22:09] <halakar> hey guise - is there a quick way to disable the compositing effects in 12.04?  I fear that having compositing enabled might degrade the performance of games under WINE
[22:09] <wawowe> beatiful_sora: does it say "rm -rf" or "rm -rf /"
[22:09] <MrKeuner> xiamx, is patch applied to a newer version of the package by package maintainer?
[22:09] <beatiful_sora> wawowe: 'rm -rf /' with a slash
[22:09] <moha85> So I have a probleme: I have windows 7 in my pc and I installed ubuntu 12.04. So when I start the computer I don't see the windows partition in the grub menu. I need help, PLEASE!
[22:09] <wylde> halakar: log in usind unity2D
[22:10] <wylde> using*
[22:10] <halakar> wylde, I'm an Ubuntu n00b.  How do I do that?
[22:10] <beatiful_sora> wawowe: do you mean to press ctrl+c in the sora@sora-laptop?
[22:10] <wawowe> beatiful_sora: yes
[22:10] <xiamx> MrKeuner, no same as the current version maintained in precise
[22:10] <wylde> halakar: at the ligin screen you click the ubuntu symbol and select unity2D
[22:10] <wylde> login*
[22:11] <wylde> geez, I have illiterate fingers today. >.<
[22:11] <halakar> i shall try that now.  do you think that's a good practice for when i want to run games, especially using WINE?
[22:11] <beatiful_sora> wawowe: wawowe you have accomplished it! i have pressed ctrl+c in the sora@sora-laptop and now the line is gone, now it says 'sora@sora-laptop' and some symbols! thank you!
[22:11] <wylde> halakar most likey
[22:11] <halakar> brb
[22:11] <wylde> likely* ...
[22:11] <wawowe> beatiful_sora: it's not over yet
[22:11] <xiamx> MrKeuner, any advise?
[22:11] <beatiful_sora> wawowe: how do you mean
[22:11] <e2b04836> wawowe: do we know if the command was actually executed yet?
[22:11] <MrKeuner> xiamx, I would wait for the package maintainer to apply the mainstream patch and do apt-get dist-update. If urgent, you have to download the source for that package and apply the patch to the source and compile the package
[22:12] <wawowe> beatiful_sora: unless that the command was running on a timer before it happend or suspended
[22:12] <wawowe> e2b04836: as far as i know yes
[22:12] <beatiful_sora> wawowe: i don't know what you mean by a timer
[22:13] <Resistance> !ftpd > stars69
[22:13] <beatiful_sora> wawowe: HELP MY FACEBOOK IS GONE!
[22:13] <wawowe> e2b04836: like "sleep 500; clear && rm -rf"
[22:13] <beatiful_sora> wawowe: i clicked the icon for facebook, and it says about child process!
[22:13] <wawowe> beatiful_sora: your facebook?
[22:14] <wawowe> beatiful_sora: in that terminal: type sudo su
[22:14] <wylde> has anoyone explained what that command does yet?
[22:14] <wylde> anyone*
[22:14] <e2b04836> no, i was about to have a go
[22:14] <beatiful_sora> wawowe: is terminal the sora@sora-laptop window?
[22:15] <wawowe> beatiful_sora: yeah,
[22:15] <xiamx> MrKeuner, i've been waiting for package maintainer to do something for a month.. i guess i'll compile it myself.
[22:15]  * Xpl01t not feeling that he is not welcome here!
[22:15] <beatiful_sora> wawowe: i have already closed this, how do i get it back up
[22:15]  * Xpl01t feeling that he is not welcome here!
[22:15] <wawowe> beatiful_sora: i think the default keybinding is ctrl+alt+t
[22:15] <MrKeuner> xiamx, yeah it might take time if the update is not urgent, most maintainers have to do day jobs for a living
[22:16] <wawowe> or it's in accessories
[22:16] <wawowe> or if unity search for terminal
[22:16] <Spacy> does anyone know if there is a implementation of PNRP for linux? if no, do we need one? i mean its a cool technology ("DNS" via distributed Hashtable)
[22:16] <wawowe> beatiful_sora: do you have the install disc?
[22:17] <craigbass1976> I'm trying to get an hp m1212nf working.  It worked ok in lucid, not so much in precise.  When did openprinting get useless, or am I just not seeing the printing part of that page?  I was hoping for a ppd file, but hp points at the linux site.
[22:18] <beatiful_sora> wawowe: my son set up my computer
[22:18] <MrKeuner> on fire?
[22:18] <beatiful_sora> wawowe: i pressed ctrl alt t, no change
[22:18] <wawowe> beatiful_sora: ctrl+alt+f3
[22:19] <beatiful_sora> wawowe: no change
[22:19] <wawowe> beatiful_sora: are you talking from that computer right now?
[22:19] <MrKeuner> ...
[22:19] <beatiful_sora> wawowe: now everything i am pressing, it is saying, failed to execute child process!
[22:19] <e2b04836> what do you actually see right now?
[22:20] <beatiful_sora> wawowe: yes i am, my son set me up a link saying 'irc, click me for help, don't phone me again'
[22:20] <MrKeuner> beatiful_sora, can we talk to your son?
[22:20] <wylde> beatiful_sora: just for future reference. Don't let anyone have your password, and if kids are going to use the computer setup an account for them with no admin access.
[22:20] <wawowe> beatiful_sora: don't close anything
[22:21] <beatiful_sora> MrKeuner: my son lives in london
[22:21] <zykotick9> beatiful_sora: that's a funny link your son left.. sort of.  Good luck
[22:21] <MrKeuner> ah you don't see him laughing then
[22:21] <e2b04836> beatiful_sora: i hope you didnt have anything important on that computer, your son has executed a pretty deadly command the chances are its wiped the hard drive
[22:21] <wawowe> beatiful_sora: do you have anything on there that you need to keep?
[22:22] <beatiful_sora> wawowe: i have all family photos and some info for childrens schools
[22:23] <wawowe> beatiful_sora: do you have access to another computer with a cd burner?
[22:23] <beatiful_sora> wawowe: this is my only computer
[22:23] <beatiful_sora> wawowe: do you mean that i should save my photos to a cd
[22:23] <e2b04836> yes
[22:23] <wawowe> beatiful_sora: how about any kind of install disc?
[22:23] <beatiful_sora> wawowe: MY PHOTOS ARE GONE!
[22:24] <MrKeuner> beatiful_sora, what does ls -al / give you
[22:24] <e2b04836> beatiful_sora: i'd turn that pc off immediately if you want any chance of getting them back
[22:24] <beatiful_sora> wawowe: i cannot get to my photos, are they gone!
[22:24] <beatiful_sora> MrKeuner: where do i type this
[22:25] <cheese1756> beatiful_sora: Since the files aren't technically overwritten, you can use various tools to analyze the hard drive and get the files back
[22:25] <cheese1756> At least, I assume that would work
[22:25] <abhinavmehta> there is some very popular tool, by which you can pretend that you are from some other country on the internet….which is that tool…not getting that name…anyone here know that..?
[22:25] <wawowe> beatiful_sora: you need to get a livecd like gparted
[22:25] <MrKeuner> beatiful_sora, in the sora@sora-laptop window
[22:25] <cheese1756> abhinavmehta: Either a proxy or a VPN
[22:25] <abhinavmehta> proxy
[22:25] <beatiful_sora> MrKeuner: i have already closed this i am afraid, how can i get it back
[22:26] <wawowe> beatiful_sora: i think there's a utility called extrecover or something like that, but you'll have to run it from a livecd
[22:26] <abhinavmehta> that tool routes your traffic by masking your nic and ip
[22:26] <cheese1756> I don't know if VPN's mask NIC's, but they do mask your IP
[22:26] <cheese1756> You could also use an SSH tunnel
[22:26] <kkrauss> wylde, you still here
[22:26] <wylde> kkrauss: yep
[22:26] <wawowe> beatiful_sora: your current os is gone, when you reboot, you won't be able to come back
[22:27] <cheese1756> And if you really wanted to be secure, you could spoof your MAC address
[22:27] <abhinavmehta> my NIC I mean IP…
[22:27] <cheese1756> abhinavmehta: Check the laws of your local country to make sure everything you are doing is legal, of coruse
[22:27] <abhinavmehta> my mistake..
[22:27] <cheese1756> *course
[22:27] <MrKeuner> beatiful_sora, that's unfortunate. I wish you did not close it as people asked you not to close anything
[22:27] <kkrauss> wylde, I just thought of something, that old system I have, it already has an older version of ubuntu on it that boots.  cant I install server from my usb drive that way without having to boot?
[22:27] <wylde> !ot | abhinavmehta cheese1756
[22:27] <wawowe> beatiful_sora: but there's still a chance to recover somethings at this point
[22:28] <beatiful_sora> MrKeuner: i am sorry i think i closed it before i was told not to close anything please forgive me :(
[22:28] <wylde> kkrauss: I'm not sure I'm following you.
[22:28] <cheese1756> Sorry wylde
[22:28] <beatiful_sora> wawowe: how can i do that?
[22:28] <abhinavmehta> cheese1756: hmm….I want some free IP masking tool.
[22:28] <MrKeuner> beatiful_sora, don't worry you are forgiven
[22:28] <Sheldon42> abhinavmehta, Tor.
[22:28] <abhinavmehta> Sheldon42: correct…thats what I'm looking..
[22:28] <e2b04836> beatiful_sora: how on earth did you end up running that command?
[22:28] <abhinavmehta> thanks a ton.
[22:28] <kkrauss> wylde, my old pc doesnt have usb boot support but has an OS on it currently, cant I boot into the current OS and run the isntall from the usb that way?  I would assume it will copy the boot and install fiels to the hard drive then reboot
[22:29] <cheese1756> e2b04836: sora says that their son ran it
[22:29] <MrKeuner> beatiful_sora, please forgive your son. Obviously he needs some more attention from you
[22:29] <abhinavmehta> Sheldon42: thanks a ton….you end my search
[22:29] <beatiful_sora> e2b04836: my youngest son has run iit
[22:29] <goaway> hi! what traces are left behind when connecting to a wireless network?
[22:29] <wylde> kkrauss: oh I see.
[22:29] <ubuntu_lombok> sepiiii
[22:29] <kkrauss> wylde, did that make more sense?
[22:29] <meLon> How can I modify the available applications when selcting 'Default Application'.  I am not given the option of selecting a program like /usr/bin/program and the program I want to use is not on the list.
[22:29] <wylde> kkrauss: yep
[22:30] <e2b04836> thats very unfortunate
[22:30] <gr33n7007h> goaway, MAC address
[22:30] <kkrauss> wylde, so what do you think, think that will work?
[22:30] <wylde> kkrauss: I don't know what your were doing initially since I joined the convo after it started.
[22:30] <goaway> gr33n7007h: and how can that be traced back to me?
[22:30] <wylde> kkrauss: what OS is on this machine now?
[22:30] <kkrauss> no wylde I just got back, we spoke earlier remember about network booting
[22:31] <beatiful_sora> MrKeuner: i will forgive my son, i do not know what he has done but he is better at computes than i am, so is my other son, i think they are very good with technology but i wish i was also!
[22:31] <cheese1756> goaway: It can't. It can trace all the traffic back to your computer, but not to your location
[22:31] <wawowe> beatiful_sora: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec
[22:31] <cheese1756> goaway: MAC addresses can be spoofed easily, though
[22:31] <abhinavmehta> goaway: you can use tools like kismet etc..to trace back system based on MAC
[22:31] <e2b04836> beatiful: your son has deleted everything on your computer
[22:31] <cheese1756> With ifconfig
[22:31] <wylde> kkrauss: yes I recall, but I didn't get into your conversation before that is all I mean :) So I didn't really have any background info
[22:31] <gr33n7007h> goaway, the ISP will no everything you been on and trace it back to your MAC address e.g facebook, twitter etc.
[22:31] <goaway> cheese1756: i know! i was just wondering if the MAC address is the only thing left behind
[22:32] <goaway> abhinavmehta: i know! thanks
[22:32] <kkrauss> wylde, I gave you all the background info lol
[22:32] <cheese1756> goaway: Beyoudn your traffic, I'd assume so. I don't admin any networks, so I'm not really sure
[22:32] <wylde> kkrauss: hmmm I'm not sure that would work. I know now. It's baest to ask anyway lol
[22:32] <wylde> best
[22:32] <goaway> gr33n7007h: no, i'm not connected to my isp at all
[22:32] <kkrauss> wylde, my old dell pc does not boot from usb, I dont have a blank cd currently.  I am trying to figure out ways to install
[22:32] <gr33n7007h> goaway, MAC addr on router is the onlything left behind
[22:32] <wawowe> beatiful_sora: that's what you need
[22:33] <beatiful_sora> wawowe: it says failed to exceute child process
[22:33] <goaway> gr33n7007h: cool :p
[22:33] <wylde> kkrauss: yeah, I'm thinking. Smell the smoke? lol hmmm...
[22:33] <kkrauss> wylde, there is an option on the link you gave me to i nstall from current linux but you have to mess with grub
[22:34] <wawowe> beatiful_sora: your entire operating system is gone, so loading new applications won't work
[22:34] <wylde> kkrauss: do you currently have a working ubuntu computer?
[22:34] <beatiful_sora> wawowe: okay, what is that link you sent me
[22:34] <kkrauss> yah it has like 10 something on it, thats what I was originally going to use back in the day
[22:34] <wawowe> beatiful_sora: it's a link to a livecd that can help you recover some pictures
[22:34] <wylde> kkrauss: and does your old computer support PXE booting? Will it boot from the network card?
[22:34] <kkrauss> but it was a weird install and buggy
[22:35] <kkrauss> yes it will boot from network just not usb, thats what im looking at now is pxe
[22:35] <wawowe> beatiful_sora: but you'll have to use another computer to download and burn it to a cd
[22:35] <beatiful_sora> wawowe: okay thank you, what is a livecd and how do i get it?
[22:35] <beatiful_sora> wawowe: oh okay thank you
[22:35] <kkrauss> wylde, wow didnt expect to ahve to play with my router to do this
[22:35] <wylde> kkrauss: play with your router?
[22:35] <beatiful_sora> wawowe: i am afraid i don't have another computer! thank you so much for your help :(
[22:36] <kkrauss> wylde, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LocalNet
[22:36] <wylde> kkrauss: oh dhcp
[22:36] <kkrauss>  wylde network install looks petty intense lol
[22:36] <wawowe> beatiful_sora: you should turn your computer off soon, though, so it doesn't get worse
[22:37] <wawowe> beatiful_sora: you'll have to do it manually, by holding down the button. but write down that url
[22:37] <goaway> gr33n7007h: cheese1756: how about traces left behind on my computer? like a history of what networks i've been connected to?
[22:37] <beatiful_sora> wawowe: but the blinking line is gone
[22:38] <gr33n7007h> goaway, you can manually remove them
[22:38] <wylde> kkrauss: moment. I've not done a PXE installer setup. But it's not exceptionally different from my LTSP setup. (I have 2 computers the have no hard disk and bott and run entirely off the server)
[22:38] <wawowe> beatiful_sora: your filesystem is journaled which means it's making records of changes
[22:38] <goaway> gr33n7007h: where can i find them?
[22:38] <beatiful_sora> wawowe: okay thank you what does that mean
[22:38] <wylde> wow, I think my fingers are drunk >.< I'm sure you get what I meant at least
[22:38] <gr33n7007h> what network manager are you using
[22:39] <cheese1756> goaway: Usually, yes
[22:39] <cheese1756> You could use something like TAILS, too
[22:39] <cheese1756> Or another LiveCD
[22:39] <wawowe> beatiful_sora: it means that some of the data will be more difficult to recover the longer that it's on
[22:39] <kkrauss> wylde, well ill be back I have to take a shower then go to walmart then im good
[22:40] <goaway> gr33n7007h: whatever the default nm in bt5r2 is
[22:40] <gr33n7007h> goaway, wicd then
[22:40] <wylde> kkrauss: no problem. I browse through that and see if I can make it a bit more straight forward for you.
[22:40] <goaway> cheese1756: where can i read about tails?
[22:40] <wylde> I'll
[22:40] <beatiful_sora> wawowe: okay thank you, will my facebook be back when i turn it back on
[22:40] <cheese1756> goaway: Distrowatch would be a good first start
[22:40] <cheese1756> Then check their website
[22:40] <vlt> Hello. How can I install a package (with apt or aptitude) without (re)starting any processes? (Similar to what `debootstrap --include` does.)
[22:40] <cheese1756> It's just a LiveCD, like an Ubuntu LiveCD
[22:41] <wawowe> beatiful_sora: your facebook is hosted online, so it won't be affected
[22:41] <goaway> cheese1756: oh, nevermind then :p
[22:41] <wawowe> beatiful_sora: if that's where your pictures are then you don't have to worry about it
[22:41] <beatiful_sora> wawowe: but when i click the icon for facebook, it says 'failed to excete child process'
[22:41] <gr33n7007h> goaway, Is this someone elses network by any chance?
[22:41] <beatiful_sora> wawowe: no my pictures were in 'pictures' and now i can't open 'pictures' :(
[22:41] <cheese1756> goaway: Naturally, check the laws of your home country and make sure you aren't violating them
[22:41] <wawowe> beatiful_sora: the program you used to access facebook is gone, but facebook is still online
[22:42] <beatiful_sora> wawowe: okay are you sure
[22:42] <wawowe> beatiful_sora: you wouldn't happen to still have them on a camera or something would you?
[22:42] <goaway> gr33n7007h: i'm not doing anything malicious. just asking out of curiosity!
[22:42] <lostogre_> where is dlm_pcmk?
[22:42] <lostogre_> I need dlm_controld.pcmk and I cannot find it!
[22:42] <wawowe> beatiful_sora: yes, you can access facebook from any computer by going to facebook.com
[22:43] <goaway> cheese1756: it's an open wifi network :p
[22:43] <gr33n7007h> goaway, ok no probs anyway
[22:43] <beatiful_sora> wawowe: no my son deleted the camera :(
[22:43] <goaway> i just don't like traces
[22:43] <mneptok> goaway: Backtrack is not supported here.
[22:43] <wawowe> beatiful_sora: deleted the data on the camera? or the camera icon
[22:43] <waxstone> im experiencing the bug mentioned here http://www.wiredrevolution.com/ubuntu/fix-blue-tinted-video-in-ubuntu im trying to fix by turning off "Enable hardware accelaration" in flash player but the checkbox cannot be unchecked
[22:43] <mneptok> !backtrack | goaway
[22:43] <goaway> mneptok: go away! nice people are already answering my questions...
[22:44] <beatiful_sora> wawowe: deleted the photos on my camera card, then he put lots of pictures of penis on it from the internet :(
[22:44] <lostogre_> What happened to the dlm-pcmk package in precise?
[22:44] <mneptok> goaway: those are the rules that everyone must follow.
[22:44] <goaway> i'm not asking about backtrack
[22:44] <beatiful_sora> wawowe: he said it was a joke
[22:44] <wawowe> beatiful_sora: some of those may be recoverable too if it's not full
[22:45] <wawowe> beatiful_sora: the original pictures i mean
[22:45] <beatiful_sora> wawowe: the penis? i deleted them all
[22:46] <beatiful_sora> wawowe: because i had no space left on the camera for new photos, it said 'memory full' so i deleted all the penis, then it didn't say 'memory full' anymore
[22:46] <goaway> gr33n7007h: so the history can be accessed from within the network manager?
[22:46] <mneptok> goaway: 16:40 < goaway> gr33n7007h: whatever the default nm in bt5r2 is
[22:46] <wawowe> beatiful_sora: getting them off the computer will be easier than the camera, in that case
[22:47] <gr33n7007h> ^^^^
[22:47] <mneptok> goaway: that looks like you're asking about Backtrack. please move your question to #backtrack-linux
[22:47] <beatiful_sora> wawowe: okay
[22:47] <cheese1756> beatiful_sora: I hope you disciplined your son pretty strongly for all this
[22:47] <goaway> mneptok: wow there must be a sale on high horses these days
[22:48] <beatiful_sora> cheese1756: for the penis or the blinking line?
[22:48] <cheese1756> Both
[22:48] <cheese1756> By blinking line, I assume you mean rm -rf /?
[22:48] <mneptok> goaway: i am asking nicely. i do not want to actually saddle up.
[22:48] <beatiful_sora> cheese1756: yes that
[22:48] <wawowe> beatiful_sora: you should consider getting a flash drive to store your pictures on in the future
[22:48] <goaway> mneptok: you already got your chaps on
[22:48] <ikonia> ok, I'm getting bored with this now
[22:48] <wawowe> beatiful_sora: that no one else knows about
[22:49] <beatiful_sora> cheese1756: also the other day he set the microwave on fire! i am at a wits end!
[22:49] <gr33n7007h> goaway, delete the wicd logs
[22:49] <cheese1756> beatiful_sora: Sorry if this was already asked, but do you have backups?
[22:49] <beatiful_sora> cheese1756: i am afraid not :(
[22:49] <cheese1756> beatiful_sora: You might want to purchase an external USB drive in the future, about double your hard drive space should be fine. I learned that the hard way
[22:50] <waxstone> Hi need help. Im experiencing the bug mentioned here http://www.wiredrevolution.com/ubuntu/fix-blue-tinted-video-in-ubuntu im trying to fix by turning off "Enable hardware accelaration" in flash player but the checkbox cannot be unchecked
[22:50] <lostogre_> What happened to the dlm-pcmk package in precise?
[22:50] <cheese1756> waxstone: That happened to me too
[22:50] <cheese1756> When I restarted later on, the box was accessible
[22:50] <lostogre_> It says it was superseded by another package, but that package doesn't exist either.
[22:51] <beatiful_sora> cheese1756: i have a usb stick, is this correct
[22:52] <cheese1756> beatiful_sora: What I typically do is I backup my most important files to Dropbox, a USB stick, and an external hard drive, then I'll back up the slightly less important stuff to the USB drive, then just about everything to the external one
[22:52] <cheese1756> In addition to syncing some folders between computers
[22:53] <beatiful_sora> cheese1756: okay my usb stick also was filled with penis by my son :(
[22:53] <waxstone> in ubuntu 12.04 why is Abode Flash Player settings disabled?
[22:54] <beatiful_sora> cheese1756: he has done this to my camera and usb and phone and digital photo frame!
[22:54] <kkrauss> beatiful_sora, wtf ware you talking about
[22:54] <cheese1756> beatiful_sora: You might want to password protect access to your computer, and maybe try to identify why your son is acting this way, taking him to help if necessary
[22:54] <cheese1756> If you haven't already
[22:54] <beatiful_sora> kkrauss: my son did it :(
[22:54] <beatiful_sora> cheese1756: he said it was a joke :(
[22:54] <kkrauss> your usb stick was filled with male genitalia by your son?
[22:54] <supadiva> waxtone, it's not disabled, just glitch
[22:55] <waxstone> supadiva, how to i kick this glitch in the nuts?
[22:55] <beatiful_sora> kkrauss: yes and my camera and phone and digital frame :(
[22:55] <waxstone> !topic beatiful_sora
[22:55] <cheese1756> waxstone: It worked for me later on
[22:55] <waxstone> !ot beatiful_sora
[22:55] <kkrauss> how old is your son?
[22:55] <aleprovencio> hello guys, can i map 'key to show the launcher' to any key combination which does not involve the <super> key?
[22:55] <cheese1756> After a reboot or two, the option was available
[22:55] <beatiful_sora> kkrauss: he is 15
[22:55] <supadiva> waxtone, there is a flash setting applet in your launchpad
[22:55] <cheese1756> Yeah, way too old to think that that is funny
[22:56] <cheese1756> And just a joke
[22:56] <kkrauss> beatiful_sora, so this is what you do, you go lock him and yourself in a room together, and tell him you are going to play a little joke on him.  Then you beat him to within an inch of his life, adn then ask him if that was funny.
[22:56] <kkrauss> !parenting :)
[22:56] <supadiva> waxtone, just type "flash" for search
[22:57] <beatiful_sora> kkrauss: i do not think he would find that funny :(
[22:57] <kkrauss> beatiful_sora, thats the point!!! beat that kids ass!
[22:57] <waxstone> supadiva,  not seeing anything under flash or adobe for settings
[22:58] <kkrauss> beatiful_sora, if I did that to a parent, I would b e knocked out on a daily basis for more days than I'd remember
[22:58] <gr33n7007h> Is ubuntu more widespread than windows in the states??
[22:58] <supadiva> waxtone, there is a "dash" icon on the upper left of screen
[22:58] <IdleOne> !ot | gr33n7007h
[22:58] <beatiful_sora> kkrauss: he also has deleted all the tv channels except 'gay chat and date'
[22:58] <waxstone> supadiva, just the plugin itself im in 12.04
[22:58] <kkrauss> beatiful_sora, I am starting to think you are just trolling
[22:58] <supadiva> waxtone, O.o
[22:59] <IdleOne> beatiful_sora: Please keep the comments in here support related, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[22:59] <waxstone> !ot beatiful_sora
[22:59] <kkrauss> beatiful_sora, actually I am sure of it, because you are being very explicit, and you arent in the middle of beating that kdis ass like a real parent would
[22:59] <beatiful_sora> kkrauss: i don't know what this means, sorry :(
[22:59] <waxstone> !ot | beatiful_sora
[22:59] <supadiva> waxtone, wow, my the last flash is installed by hand
[22:59] <beatiful_sora> kkrauss: oh no i have already told him off!
[22:59] <gchristensen> Hi, is there a way with Upstart to run as an unpriveleged user? Or do I still need to hack it with  -s /bin/sh -c 'exec "$0" "$@"' username -- /path/to/command [parameters...]
[22:59] <beatiful_sora> ubottu: sorry, i will talk about ubuntu
[22:59] <vlt> IdleOne: gr33n7007h’s question was about bug #1 from the Ubuntu bugtracker ;-)
[22:59] <kkrauss> ok well beatiful_sora telling a kid off is not the same as beating their ass
[23:00] <IdleOne> vlt: which is offtopic and not support related.
[23:00] <kkrauss> id burn that kids face off with the kitchen stove for that
[23:00] <IdleOne> kkrauss: Please take the conversation elsewhere.
[23:00] <waxstone> !ot | kkrauss
[23:00] <beatiful_sora> kkrauss: i don't think i should use physical force
[23:00] <maheanuu> I have a question, would I be better off downloading Ubuntu 12.XX the one that is most stable of the new ones and replacing my 10.04.4 64 bit LTS  that I have installed at present
[23:00] <supadiva> waxtone, i don't trust the flash install helper of 12.04
[23:00] <cheese1756> kkrauss: Violence is never the answer
[23:00] <beatiful_sora> kkrauss: but i will ground him very strongly
[23:00] <kkrauss> well good luck, I suggest you google how to password protect your data
[23:00] <kkrauss> LMFAO
[23:00] <cheese1756> What can be done with violence can be done with a more lasting effect with talking
[23:00] <kkrauss> tell that to a 15 year old kid who just did what he claims
[23:00] <waxstone> !ops beatiful_sora  kkrauss
[23:00] <kkrauss> that is a falsehood
[23:00] <kkrauss> a proven falshood
[23:01] <waxstone> !ops | beatiful_sora  kkrauss
[23:01] <ikonia> stop now
[23:01] <kkrauss> but the channel is getting way off topic so moving along
[23:01] <beatiful_sora> kkrauss: i just clicked the internet, but it says, failed to execute child process
[23:01] <beatiful_sora> sorry i will remain on topic!
[23:01] <vlt> maheanuu: Better than what?
[23:01] <cheese1756> beatiful_sora: Nothing will execute, since it has all been deleted
[23:02] <cheese1756> Do you have another computer available?
[23:02] <beatiful_sora> chees1756: okay, is there a way i can fix this?
[23:02] <maheanuu> Better than 10.04.4
[23:02] <lorddelta> Greetings, I have severe pulseaudio problems; what is the procedure to follow to fix these days? By severe, I mean; pulseaudio and my hardware drivers don't get along all of a sudden, after working decently well in 10.04-11.10, running 12.04. I have sound cards, alsa is all set up correctly, as far as I can tell, it seems my issue is that I cannot select my sound card as the pulseaudio driver. Should I just
[23:02] <lorddelta> get rid of this **** by the name of pulseaudio? Why do I need it?
[23:02] <cheese1756> By the way, do you want to salvage the data?
[23:02] <cheese1756> Or do you not care about it?
[23:02] <kkrauss> beatiful_sora, I suggest you first go and beat that kids ass, and then tell him to fix what he did.
[23:02] <beatiful_sora> cheese1756: i am afraid not, but there is a laptop if that helps
[23:02] <ikonia> lorddelta: drop the language
[23:02] <maheanuu> vit, the above was meant for you sorry I will get rite from now on
[23:02] <cheese1756> Yeah, a laptop will work
[23:02] <lorddelta> ikonia: I did. Self sensored.
[23:02] <cheese1756> For now, start downloading Ubuntu on that computer
[23:02] <cheese1756> Do you have a blank CD available?
[23:03] <ikonia> lorddelta: if you have to star a word out - don't use it
[23:03] <beatiful_sora> cheese1756: okay, how do i do that
[23:03] <cheese1756> Or a blank USB drive
[23:03] <IdleOne> lorddelta: if you need to * things out, don't say them.
[23:03] <cheese1756> Oh wait, yeah, you do have a blank USB drive
[23:03] <beatiful_sora> cheese1756: yes, although my son has filled it with penis, does this matter?
[23:04] <cheese1756> You will need to format it anyway to install Ubuntu. Was there anything important on it?
[23:04] <vlt> !who | maheanuu
[23:04] <cheese1756> !CoC
[23:04] <lorddelta> ...great, I guess I'll have to go fix it by myself, as usuall. I apologize for the language. If it helps anyone else though, I think there may be a kernel level issue...I don't know how. But I'm pretty sure whatever is messing with pulseaudio completely crashed the entire system. I had to reboot after it crashed.
[23:05] <vlt> maheanuu: Well, “better” as in newer or more stable or easier to use or more suited for older machines or older users …?
[23:05] <cheese1756> lorddelta: Do you want to set a card as default in Alsa?
[23:05] <maheanuu> vit, I am running 10.04.4 64 bit now on this notebook, but I am having sound and skype problems eversince the re install of 10.04.4
[23:05] <lorddelta> cheese1756: No. I want to set it as default in pulseaudio...
[23:05] <lorddelta> cheese1756: its already default in alsa.
[23:06] <cheese1756> Oh, ok
[23:06] <vlt> maheanuu: My suggestion would be: Install 12.04 to a separate area of the disk and try whether it works better for your needs. (It’s “vlt”, btw.)
[23:07] <maheanuu> vit, I am running a Toshiba Satellite A355D 64 bit laptop and was running 9 and 10 on it before I had a major drive failure and had to do a complete reiinstall
[23:07] <maheanuu> vltOk, couldn't see it in the gold lettering looked like an i to me
[23:09] <maheanuu> I think that I will download the live version if they have it and drop it on a usb device and then do a live and see...   My problem is getting all the Flash and Audio/Video stuff working again....   So far with 10.04 I lose skype and audio regularly for no reason that I can determine
[23:10] <lorddelta> maheanuu: Yay driver bugs.
[23:11] <waxstone> in ubuntu 12.04 why is Abode Flash Player settings disabled?
[23:11] <maheanuu> lorddelta, exactly!!!
[23:11] <waxstone> Hi need help. Im experiencing the bug mentioned here http://www.wiredrevolution.com/ubuntu/fix-blue-tinted-video-in-ubuntu im trying to fix by turning off "Enable hardware accelaration" in flash player but the checkbox cannot be unchecked
[23:11] <maheanuu> Damn!!!  Here I am rapidly descending into my 2nd childhood, and I need more and more puzzles???
[23:12] <maheanuu> At this rate, alzheimers will never have a chance
[23:12] <HBX> lubuntu 12.04 is amazingly fast
[23:13] <maheanuu> HBX, But does it play well with the outside stuffs?
[23:13] <HBX> as in?
[23:14] <HBX> runs fine for me
[23:14] <maheanuu> Skype, Flash Media,
[23:14] <HBX> yup
[23:14] <HBX> i run it on my 12 inch netbook
[23:14] <HBX> runs amazingly well
[23:15] <maheanuu> I have had nothing but problems since I installed 10.04.4 LTS
[23:15] <HBX> thats ancient
[23:15] <HBX> install 12.04
[23:15] <maheanuu> You are making a very good point and I am liking what I am hearing
[23:15] <waxstone> !lifetime
[23:16] <HBX> you can always later add the PPA for mediubuntu
[23:16] <HBX> and install all your media accessories
[23:16] <maheanuu> Is it possible to drop it over the 10.04 and not worry about having to reload all the stuff on the root that is there now
[23:16] <xiamx> how long does it take for an uploaded ppa package to become available?
[23:16] <ClientAlive> does anyone know a way to make a vm boot from the hard drive? I'm using virt-manager and kvm but I'm cool with the command line if that's what works.
[23:17] <ikonia> ClientAlive: what do you mean, make it boot from the hard drive ?
[23:17] <rile_bre> hello .avery boot ..have some problems . internal erorr.  avery time .( i do not give up on ubuntu yet .but is making me for simple task man still not there yet . and any one  can hellp me to watch netflix on ubuntu  thru wine or ...how can i make dumy silverlight .playere
[23:17] <ikonia> ClientAlive: you mean an existing partition with an OS on
[23:18] <HBX> honestly maheanuu i'd just backup what you need and do a clean install
[23:18] <DarwinSurvivor> HBX: people still use medibuntu?
[23:18] <HBX> don't see why not
[23:19] <waxstone> Need help with 12.04; Im experiencing the bug mentioned here http://www.wiredrevolution.com/ubuntu/fix-blue-tinted-video-in-ubuntu im trying to fix
[23:20] <DarwinSurvivor> HBX: what do they use it for? libdvdcss is available in the normal repos now, as is flashplayer. and the mp3 stuff can be pre-installed (just a checkbox)
[23:20] <HBX> yup
[23:20] <HBX> webup8.org has an updated ppa
[23:21] <DarwinSurvivor> waxstone: please provide details about what you did and any errors/problems you encountered
[23:21] <waxstone> DarwinSurvivor, I tried all the all the solutions listed none work. cannot chenge settings in flash player
[23:22] <waxstone> DarwinSurvivor,  i.e. right clicking on video-->settings
[23:22] <DarwinSurvivor> waxstone: so you followed the instructions without getting any errors (appears to have been fixed), but the video is still blue?
[23:23] <DarwinSurvivor> waxstone: "cannot change" tells me nothing. did right-click not work, was the option not there (or grayed out), did it make no difference, etc?
[23:23] <waxstone> DarwinSurvivor, correct. all except the one for the flash player i tried without success
[23:23] <skulltip> somehow, in both unity and unity 2d, 12.04  - the top menu went from the top bar of the screen back to the top bar of the application, being qtcreator.. wonder if i hit something
[23:23] <waxstone> DarwinSurvivor,  the checkbox cannot be unchecked in the flash settings
[23:24] <DarwinSurvivor> waxstone: ok, so is the color fixed in everything except flash now?
[23:24] <skulltip> the File, Edit, Build.. moved from the top panel to the top of the application as it normally would be.
[23:24] <ClientAlive> I got it. thx anway
[23:24] <ClientAlive> :)
[23:24] <waxstone> DarwinSurvivor, color has always worked in everthing except videos like on youtube
[23:25] <waxstone> DarwinSurvivor, red shows as blue
[23:25] <krababbel> waxstone: google libvdpau1 flash blue
[23:26] <ClientAlive> ikonia: sorry for the delay. I'm trying to install windows 7 as a kvm virtual machine (except it's the upgrade edition) - I know, pretty crazy eh??  :) I do have ubuntu 12.04 server as the host though so figured it was ok to ask here. It's a complicated mess but I think I've found a way - lol
[23:27] <waxstone> The workaround works for me on nvidia 295.40.
[23:27] <waxstone> Although the flash player becomes very unstable as others have reported, and it crashes *very* often for me. Disabling hardware acceleration from inside the flash player is also a workaround, by right-clicking the flash player and selecting Settings -- if one wants to keep libvdpau1 for other purposes (like mplayer2/xbmc/etc), for example.
[23:27] <waxstone> ^^ according to a post on the site
[23:28] <DarwinSurvivor> waxstone: ok, so it is the "blue flash" problem.
 Is that dude with the Flash player issue still there? I just remembered, tell him to open a Flash video in full screen, THEN go into settings and disable hardware acceleration. I had the same problem once, that sorted it for me
[23:28] <waxstone> DarwinSurvivor, yes a flash issue . is there a stable solution?
[23:29] <wawowe> think that was for you waxstone
[23:29] <crewza> Haroou
[23:29] <Prodigal> I'm running ubuntu on VirtualMachine - how do i turn on the wireless connection through my host?
[23:29] <bobweaver> Prodigal,  go to settings _> network
[23:29] <malkauns_> u dont
[23:30] <skulltip> here is what I mean:  http://inky.ws/g/1jk
[23:30] <waxstone> fullscreen worked!!!!
[23:30] <skulltip> and in unity 3d, i can't find xchat anywhere.. have to alt-tab to try to find it
[23:30] <SeaPhor> Prodigal: thats a question to be asked in your VM app's irc
[23:30] <waxstone> wawowe, thank you
[23:31] <waxstone> if anyone has this issue the solution in disabling hardware accelaration but htis can ONLY be done with the video at fullscreen
[23:32] <DarwinSurvivor> waxstone: only at fullscreen, interresting.
[23:32] <waxstone> DarwinSurvivor,  definite bug. you cannot uncheck or access settings successfully unless at fullscreen
[23:32] <ClientAlive> there is one annoying thing though that I haven't been able to solve. When I run an installation using virt-manager, after a while the computer goes into hybernation or something no matter if you move the mouse or press a key or what you do. When you come back out of hybernation virt-manager is no longer displayed on the screen (or even my window manager or x for that matter). Instead, a tty session is. The problem is that when this occur
[23:32] <ClientAlive> s in the middle of installation there is no way that I know of to get back to virt-manager and the installation in order to continue with it.
[23:32] <ClientAlive> what do I do?
[23:32] <DarwinSurvivor> waxstone: well, good to hear it's fixed. as for the bug, only Adobe can fix that
[23:34] <waxstone> DarwinSurvivor, im going to test on another machine, it might be ubuntu's developer version of firefox
[23:34] <ClientAlive> is there some way to dissable hybernation from the command line?
[23:38] <gr33n7007h> ClientAlive, what ubuntu do you use
[23:38] <waxstone> DarwinSurvivor,  not an issue on firefox for windows
[23:39] <waxstone> is there a ubuntu developer channel?
[23:39] <DarwinSurvivor> ClientAlive: do you mean "prevent any user from using it" or "prevent auto-hibernation while SSH'ing into the machine"?
[23:39] <DarwinSurvivor> waxstone: I'm sure it's not a firefox issue, but a flash issue (flash for windows is WAY different than flash for linux)
[23:40] <waxstone> DarwinSurvivor, ok cool
[23:40] <DarwinSurvivor> waxstone: I don't *know* of a developer channel, Canonical doesn't actually have very many developers, and those it does have usually use project-specific (ex: Unity) channels
[23:40] <DarwinSurvivor> waxstone: what did you want to talk to them about (I will be able to better direct you if I know the background of the question)
[23:41] <fosburg> what would be the reason 'draftsight' a drafting application won't load on version 12.04?
[23:42] <DarwinSurvivor> fosburg: unless I'm mistaken, isn't that a windows application?
[23:42] <DarwinSurvivor> fosburg: and a beta at that...?
[23:42] <fosburg> its for linux, windows and OS10
[23:43] <DarwinSurvivor> fosburg: could you provide a link? The only reference I see is for a windows version :(
[23:43] <fosburg> yes it is a bata
[23:43] <civilianpoppy> exit
[23:43] <waxstone> DarwinSurvivor, no issue in another version of linux(ubuntu Derivative). I just wanted to mention this solution in case it helps solve this bug for other users
[23:43] <fosburg> give me a minute
[23:43] <DarwinSurvivor> fosburg: oh, nvm, it's just the button that only says windows.
[23:44] <DarwinSurvivor> waxstone: the developers are well aware of the issue and there is nothing they can do about it since flash is 100% closed source. Only Adobe can fix it and they have been very clear that linux will only receive *security* updates from now on
[23:45] <DarwinSurvivor> waxstone: the reason you are only getting the problem in 12.04 is because 12.04 has the newer flash version (older ones have potential security holes anyways)
[23:45] <fosburg> www.3ds.com/DownloadDraftSight  is where I did the update
[23:45] <waxstone> DarwinSurvivor,  ok thanks for the information and for your help
[23:45] <DarwinSurvivor> fosburg: Did you install it from the repos, or the .deb file on their website?
[23:46] <DarwinSurvivor> waxstone: no problem
[23:47] <fosburg> it was the .deb (was noted for Ubuntu) and I used the software center to install
[23:47] <DarwinSurvivor> fosburg: ok, looks like it's not in the repos, so you must have used the .deb from the site
[23:47] <fosburg> yes I did
[23:47] <DarwinSurvivor> fosburg: ok, can you please tell us *exactly* what error messages you are getting or what strange behaviour you are observing?
[23:47] <DarwinSurvivor> !details
[23:48] <fosburg> I cant remember the error message I saw Once--but it would start to install and then just stop
[23:49] <fosburg> do you think that the application has not been upgraded to 12.04?
[23:49] <DarwinSurvivor> fosburg: ok, so the issue is that it won't even install. Unfortunately, without knowing what the error message was, there's not much we can do. Can you try installing it again and record the error message?
[23:50] <DarwinSurvivor> fosburg: that's a question only the developers can answer unfortunately
[23:50] <DarwinSurvivor> fosburg: if you can poste the output, I may be able to determine if it is looking for 11.10 libraries
[23:50] <fosburg> Thanks--I will try to install again and copy the air message
[23:51] <DarwinSurvivor> fosburg: can you install from the command line? It will provide a LOT more information
[23:51] <DarwinSurvivor> "sudo dpkg -i name_of_package.deb"
[23:51] <fosburg> I probably won't get back to you until tomorrow---about this time
[23:52] <fosburg> thanks again for the feed back
[23:53] <jcao219> my friend is having a curious problem with the installer
[23:53] <jcao219> i will show you a screenshot, but basically the installer does not show certain text, but when you take a screenshot of it, it will show it in the screenshot
[23:54] <t-mart> how can I replace 12.04 unity's shell interface with standard gdm (like back in 10.04-ish)? i've found information on removing all the unity packages, but i'm wondering if i actually need to do something so extreme. is there setting i can just toggle, etc?
[23:54] <jcao219> Here's the really curious screenshot:   http://i.imgur.com/GaEGg.jpg
[23:55] <xangua> !nounity | t-mart
[23:55] <t-mart> sorry * like 11.04
[23:56] <DarwinSurvivor> t-mart: if you are talking about gnome-2 (gdm is actually the login screen), then gnome-2 no longer exists (it was discontinued by its own developers in favor of gnome-shell)
[23:56] <Nod51_> Problem: I bought a AMD Turion X2 Dual-Core Mobile RM-75 / ATI RV710 laptop from a friend that will white screen (but still run fine) randomly in Linux or Windows(XP/7), but I decided to use it as a server. Everything was working fine till I tried to scp from from my current server over at shich point I get: "Corrupted MAC on input." "Disconnecting: Packet corrupt" "lost connection". Network wires are good, but if I run 1 or more CPU intensive tasks, say bur
[23:56] <Nod51_> nK7 or memtester, scp works fine. I tried: -running a 3 day memtest (all pass between the white screens) - changing the ram - disabled CPU scaling at 2200mhz (it's max) or 1ghz but no change. If I have it at 2200mhz and run 2 burnK7 it will shutdown in around a minute.
[23:56] <t-mart> DarwinSurvivor, mmm. yea, i am talking about gnome-2
[23:56] <DarwinSurvivor> jcao219: can you also post a screenshot (for comparison of to photo)?
[23:57] <jcao219> DarwinSurvivor, the screenshot is in the photo
[23:57] <t-mart> and thanks xangua
[23:57] <jcao219> he pulls it up in the picture viewer
[23:57] <BentFranklin> Installed Ubuntu Server on a machine.  It's repos don't know emacs.  Any reason I can't just teach it the normal ubuntu repos and go ahead and install emacs?
[23:57] <DarwinSurvivor> t-mart: well, as I said, gnome-2 is dead. There are a couple forks, but they are not yet ready. Feel free to try gnome-shell, kde, xfce, or lmde (xfce and lmde are fairly traditional)
[23:57] <DarwinSurvivor> jcao219: so it is :P
[23:58] <SeaPhor> or try Mint
[23:58] <ClientAlive> DarwinSurvivor: sorry for the delay - was googling for answers  :)  My Ubuntu 12.04 installation is just the host system for virtualization. It should never, ever hybernate, suspend, do any kind of screensaver or any other thing like that. I'm not certain what the cause of my aformentioned symptoms are but I know any things like that should either not exist (preferably) or be off.
[23:58] <jcao219> very strange, he's going to restart and try again
[23:58] <DarwinSurvivor> jcao219: have him do that. If it happens again, *please* file a bug report as that's a fairly serious problem (especially for the installer)
[23:59] <jcao219> alright, i'll make sure to tell him that
[23:59] <t-mart> DarwinSurvivor, ok. just really haven't gotten used to the apple-like application-menu-in-top-taskbar thing and what i consider awkward window resizing
[23:59] <LoOoD> Hey all, have a question. So in ubuntu 10.04/lucid I have ldap working with ssh/sudo. But with ubuntu 12.04/precise, only ssh works. When I do a "getent group groupname" in precise, the group name/id displays but no members are lists. In lucid getent return the grouname/id and the members. ANy ideas what I'm missing?
[23:59] <DarwinSurvivor> ClientAlive: if you just want to stop it from doing it automatically, just go into system settings -> power and turn it off :)