[00:00] <ailo> lol
[00:00] <ailo> How about a recipe for rock'n'roll?
[00:00] <len-dt> I think that was what the recording tutorial was all about.
[00:01] <ailo> I gotta get out for a while. Been sitting in front of this screen enough for one day. See you tomorrow len
[00:01] <len-dt> www.presonus.com/media/manuals/AB1818VSL_OM_V1_EN_Web.pdf
[00:02] <len-dt> take a look some time... it could be a good place to start from.
[01:14] <ailo> len-dt: The guy at LAU is going to order one, he says.. (looking up the post)
[01:14] <ailo> lists.linuxaudio.org/pipermail/linux-audio-user/2012-May/084993.html
[01:15] <ailo> Pretty amazing performance on atom 1GHz
[01:16] <ailo> I'd still need to use it personally to really get the idea of what you can do with it, but I would now be willing to recommend it for people looking for multi channel usb devices
[01:31] <len-dt> ailo, added the start on swap to your page.
[01:33]  * len-dt is off to the beach...
[01:43] <ailo> The beach? Not for another month around here :(
[01:43] <ailo> Unless you like cold water
[01:43] <ailo> And cold air
[03:57] <len-dt> ailo, We sat around a fire and ate sausages... enjoyed peoples company. I was wearing shorts at work but it was a bit cool this evening.
[03:58] <len-dt> ailo, the 1818 looks more and more interesting. I'll keep tabs on it for when I want something like that.
[03:59] <len-dt> I think I will keep an eye open for an old adat too. Even if it won't do tape.
[05:22] <len-dt> ailo, multi cpus changes the whole swap setup... see http://blog.jcole.us/2010/09/28/mysql-swap-insanity-and-the-numa-architecture/
[05:22] <len-dt> I don't think we are likely to deal with 64Gig of ram in a system though...
[09:04] <astraljava> len-dt: I'd kill for such a monster, though. :D With dual i7's.
[11:05] <ailo> len-dt: Nice work on the wiki
[12:24] <scott-work> interestingly, jono approached me at UDS about doing some ubuntu studio "accomplishments"
[12:26] <scott-work> for those who don't know about this:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uyuy1GiNuwQ
[12:26] <scott-work> http://www.jonobacon.org/2012/05/01/first-ubuntu-accomplishments-release/
[12:26] <scott-work> if anyone has any suggestions for accomplishments, this could be a nice thing for new community members
[12:28] <scott-work> oh, and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fu3pT_9nb8o starting around 51:00
[13:21] <len-dt> ailo, feel free to make any of those pages prettier.
[16:23] <ailo> scott-work: Since Ubuntu Studio is so easy to find for new users, it makes sense to make the web site a central point with links and directions to everything linux audio related
[16:23] <ailo> I just came to think about that from one of the responses on the mail list
[16:25] <ailo> I guess that would just be a nice addition to the new website
[16:26] <ailo> No need to write manuals on how to use software, or what devices are supported and so on. Just pass links to where you can find them.
[16:27] <ailo> floss manuals is a great resource for learning about software. Then there's alsa, ffado and jack. And all the linux user dedicated websites
[16:27] <ailo> Perhpas fit that in somewhere in the blueprint?
[16:39] <ailo> We might only need to make our own manual for how to start jack and change its settings, also the PA related stuff
[16:39] <ailo> There's no good US specific docs on that
[16:43] <ailo> scott-work: I put up some links here. Will make another wiki page only for that later. Just to give you an idea https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/audio-settings/resources
[16:51] <ailo> btw, is there an example of the new web page somewhere? (I guess there must be)
[17:05] <scott-work> ailo: good ideas :)
[17:05] <scott-work> ailo: you can find the current site (which i am currently working on) at https://staging.ubuntustudio.org
[17:06] <scott-work> the https: is required, even though it isn't secure, to render the css correctly 
[17:06] <scott-work> the browser will probably complain about it though
[17:22] <ailo> scott-work: I suppose "FAQ" could be a good place to put up some links? I could make an example section for it. Gotta go for now
[19:24] <len-dt> scott-work, Just looking at staging which looks good BTW, and am realizing that maybe the word "Contribute" is not the right word for what you are trying to communicate. My first thought is that is where I can give money (yes that would be nice too), but it takes a bit of thought to figure out it might mean help test or give ideas or whatever.
[19:25] <scott-work> len-dt: do you have another word to suggest?  "development"?
[19:25] <len-dt> I don't know what to use instead... get involved?
[19:27] <len-dt> Development is ok... but it sounds like coding and having people suggest things or make comments while not seeming to most people to be very much is actually very helpful.
[19:30] <len-dt> "wish list" "suggestions" "get involved". It would even be ok to have more than one that both point to the same page. Like development and "user comments"
[19:33] <len-dt> scott-work, This is not a big show stopper for sure. I only mention it because you asked a while ago if I had any ideas about getting more people involved.  :)
[19:37] <len-dt> I would also have a FAQ item something like  "Who makes Ubuntu Studio?" with the answer "People just like you" with a little blurb about how most of the work is very non-technical etc. showcasing the easiest things to help with. Once someone starts helping, they generally find they can do more than they thought.
[19:37] <scott-work> i like "get involved" :)
[19:37] <len-dt> Oh and a link to the contribute page (or whatever.
[19:38] <scott-work> good ideas len-dt!
[21:11] <len-dt> ailo, holstein picked up my ART tube pre usb interface today. My D66 now is truly the a 6x4 (no spdif out.) I don't know if I could use the USB outputs as part of output tracks. The USB codec is separate from the spdif stuff. So I could have spdif out at at 44100 while the USB was at 48000.
[21:12] <len-dt> So I would guess not. Inputs are more important anyway.
[21:16] <len-dt> Seems quiet even with the gain at max.
[21:17] <len-dt> After I pick up my son, I will do some testing on the netbook to see how it compares to the internal card for latency and xruns.
[23:27] <len-dt> It appears that the rate reported by jackd is meaningless. Jackd does not appear to know what the sample rate is.
[23:30] <len-dt> Jackd sets the sample rate on starting. That is it sends a command to alsa to set the rate. However, if that setting fails, jackd doesn't know.
[23:32] <len-dt> So if the card's sample rate is being set externally by a wordclock or spdif input jack doesn't know.
[23:33] <len-dt> I don't know how this affects audio processing... but it would affect an ardour session. 
[23:36] <len-dt> Ardour sets it's session rate to what jack says the card rate is at session creation. If Jack thinks it is 44100 but the external clock is 48000... playback would have a key change.
[23:37] <len-dt> So, the user who uses an external clock source needs to make sure jack and external source are set to the same rate.
[23:42] <len-dt> On a D66, spdif in is capture 9 and 10, same as a d1010 I would guess.
[23:45] <len-dt> and capture 11 and 12 comes from the output of the internal mixer.