[01:13] <MaynardWaters> hey, I have ardour open and Jack Audio Connection kit.  I hit activate, and now I cant get the mic turned off
[01:13] <MaynardWaters> its creating a great hiss of nausty feedback when I dont have my headphones plugged in
[01:13] <MaynardWaters> any suggestions
[01:26] <MaynardWaters> ok, its still live like that but, I have been able to get hydrogen recording directly into ardour.... yessss
[01:47] <MaynardWaters> when installing new software is it best to have jack running, or not, or doesnt matter?
[02:14] <MaynardWaters> every recording is at least the mic and then other things too.... urg
[02:48] <holstein> MaynardWaters: you want to start JACK first.. then start the other software
[02:48] <holstein> MaynardWaters: internal sound cards are a challenge
[02:49] <holstein> i would try looking in alsamixer and see if you can mute the mic
[10:59] <jumpy> hi there
[11:00] <jumpy> is there a way to netinstall the ubuntu studio?
[11:00] <jumpy> so i can use a small (100mb ) image on usb and grab the packages I want from the *net?
[11:00] <jumpy> or should i be looking at another distro if that's my preferred way of installing
[12:26] <MaynardWaters> holstein: I have gotten to a point where I have had 5 things recognized with jack... it appears that manually seetting up the connections each time I open/close a program is the best way to interact with jack, but I have not been able to isolate the mic feedback that I have been gettting
[12:27] <MaynardWaters> I'll check the alsamixer and see if I can kill the mic there, thanks for the suggestions
[13:55] <MaynardWaters> thanks!/j #rosegarden
[14:09] <holstein> MaynardWaters: the internal sound card will show up as one big device
[14:09] <holstein> all the ins
[14:09] <holstein> thats by design
[14:09] <holstein> its not intended for the use case you are presenting
[14:09] <holstein> sometimes, you can mute the mic, sometimes, its just all in on 2 channels
[14:10] <holstein> i say, get *any* little USB device and enjoy all of the improvements that brings
[14:16] <qheolet> people do you have samples wht you do with ubuntu Studio audio, images, web dev, movies stc stc stc
[14:17] <holstein> qheolet: i use ubuntu... so everything i do is with ubuntu
[14:17] <qheolet> same
[14:17] <holstein> http://holstein.bandcamp.com/ is some of the stuff with just me
[14:18] <qheolet> great!
[14:18] <holstein> :)
[14:24] <MaynardWaters> holstein: I have a tascam us -122 are you saying that any external sound card will improve preformance?
[14:25] <MaynardWaters> holstein: nice bass!
[14:26] <holstein> MaynardWaters: thanks
[14:26] <holstein> i have a US-122 as well... that should work great
[14:27] <MaynardWaters> I use it with a desktop, and ardour...my housemate set that up, and I dont think jack is used in that situation
[14:27] <holstein> JACK is usually overkill for most folk
[14:27] <MaynardWaters> do you think If I mess with the settings in jack I can make thigns work better with my internal sound card?
[14:29] <holstein> MaynardWaters: no
[14:29] <holstein> MaynardWaters: thats a hardware limitation... nothing to do with JACK at all
[14:29] <holstein> the card is presented to JACK, and JACK does what it does
[14:29] <holstein> you might hack alsa somehow to lose that mic
[14:30] <holstein> internal cards are awful though
[14:30] <MaynardWaters> the alsamixer allowed me to turn down/off the mic
[14:30] <holstein> right
[14:30] <MaynardWaters> now im trying to get rosegarden to output some sound
[14:30] <holstein> that has nothing to do with JACK for example
[14:30] <holstein> MaynardWaters: RG makes no sound
[14:30] <MaynardWaters> so there are multiple sound systems at work at the same time?
[14:31] <holstein> RG is a sequencer... you point it to a sound module
[14:31] <MaynardWaters> if I load up a midi file, it should make some sound
[14:31] <MaynardWaters> I can see the meter in rosegarden and it really looks like it wants to output some sound
[14:31] <holstein> MaynardWaters: nope... that midi file is just telling RG to play a virtual instrument you have not specified yet
[14:31] <MaynardWaters> oooooooooooo
[14:31] <holstein> yup.. you'll see meters moving and hear no sound
[14:32] <holstein> RG makes no sounds
[14:32] <MaynardWaters> so i have to have something like qsynth open to actually create the sounds
[14:32] <holstein> MaynardWaters: RG is just a sequencer
[14:32] <holstein> MaynardWaters: to hear sounds, you need something that makes sounds... something that RG uses as a sound modules
[14:32] <holstein> module*
[14:32] <MaynardWaters> what sythn do you recommend works best with rosegarden?
[14:33] <holstein> MaynardWaters: i use whatever i need, sound wise
[14:33] <holstein> MaynardWaters: zynaddsubfx? or the new fork, yoshimi
[14:33] <holstein> MaynardWaters: or, some external hardware unit
[14:33] <MaynardWaters> yep thats installed
[14:34] <holstein> they all work best with RG
[14:34] <holstein> JACK lets you route whatever you want
[14:35] <MaynardWaters> ok got jack, rosegarden and yoshimi open... now Im going to try to connect them with jack
[14:36] <MaynardWaters> I need to figure out the difference between the "connections" box in jack and the patchbay
[14:36] <holstein> MaynardWaters: just dont use the patchbay
[14:36] <holstein> "connections" is the patchbay
[14:36] <holstein> there are other GUI alternatice to qjackctl as well
[14:37] <holstein> as in #opensourcemusicians ...i just use qjack and manually connect each time
[14:39] <MaynardWaters> ok, one thing at a time, im still with the default jack gui
[14:39] <MaynardWaters> joshimi has shown up in the readable clients, but not the writeable clients
[14:39] <MaynardWaters> so it looks to me like I can output things from yoshimi to rosegarden, but not the other way around
[14:39] <holstein> MaynardWaters: you might need to use a2jmidid
[14:40] <holstein> MaynardWaters: i assure you it'll work
[14:40] <holstein> MaynardWaters: again, those guys in #opensourcemusicians are the ones that really know
[14:40] <holstein> i dont do much midi
[14:42] <MaynardWaters> ok, ill move my chatter over then for now then, got a2jmidid
[14:42] <qheolet> Holstein add you in G+  Nice music!
[14:43] <holstein> qheolet: thanks!... i need to get more active there in g+
[14:44] <holstein> OK folks.. im out... im taking lunch to my girlfriend, then im taking my bass to the lake where its quiet... going to work on some bach and try and finish making some charts
[14:44] <holstein> MaynardWaters: feel free and chatter up in here all you want.. im just trying to point you to where you might find more appropriate help :)
[14:45] <holstein> enjoy!
[14:45] <qheolet> see you!!
[14:50] <MaynardWaters> holstein: enjoy the lake and bass
[14:52] <astraljava> Rebel bass? http://astraljava.kapsi.fi/rebel_bass.jpg
[15:19] <qheolet> people do you have samples what you do with ubuntu Studio audio, images, web dev, movies stc stc stc
[15:37] <holstein> astraljava: lol
[19:06] <len-dt> astraljava, i'd prolly hurt myself on that bass.
[22:46] <tgm4883> Just a quick note, there appears to be a broken image in the top middle on the website. Also, 12.04 isn't listed on http://ubuntustudio.org/downloads (although it is on the front page)
[22:49] <len-dt> tgm4883, there is a whole new website coming soon. Sorry for the delay.
[22:49] <tgm4883> len-dt, no worries, I was actually just checking what your recommended ISO arch was
[22:49] <tgm4883> we (mythbuntu) just changed to 64-bit
[22:49] <len-dt> We have both 32 and 64 bit ISOs
[22:50] <tgm4883> right I was just checking if you recommended one
[22:56] <len-dt> It depends on your needs.
[22:57] <len-dt> If 32bit apps are used a lot... like wine 32bit has to be used. I think the guys with 64bit systems tend to use the amd64 ISO though.
[22:57] <len-dt> I have 32bit systems and so use the i386 ISO.