JontheEchidnaI think our login screen should have a user list by default00:35
JontheEchidnajust spent the last 15 minutes on the phone with a neighbor (who lives about 5 minutes away) who installed Kubuntu on a laptop, but then forgot their username :s00:36
JontheEchidnahe's fairly tech savy (just not with Linux) so I told him to mount the drive in windows and look in /home to figure out the username00:36
JontheEchidnabut I'd like to avoid this in the future, and if he's having troubles, others probably are too, lol00:37
yofel_JontheEchidna: we have a ligthdm-kde version with a user list. I would like to use that by default too if we can switch to ligthdm00:39
JontheEchidnayeah, lightdm-kde is awesome :)00:40
JontheEchidnathis is a weird one: bug 100050800:58
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1000508 in gcc-4.7 (Ubuntu) "PendingMessages member variable of APT's GlobalError class initializes as "true" with -std=c++11" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/100050800:58
JontheEchidna(Basically, muon is broke in quantal. Can't do commits or update checks)00:58
JontheEchidna^lol, must have lost power at work01:01
JontheEchidna(my alt. there just disconnected)01:02
JontheEchidnawith this thunderstorm I can't say I'm surprised tho01:03
yofel_well, not the first thing I saw failing01:05
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markeyhey all06:17
markeyhas a new name already been found for Kubuntu?06:17
markeyMamarok: ^06:48
Mamarokmarkey: so far we stay with Kubuntu06:48
markeyMamarok: oh really, how comes?07:01
MamarokI think those who were sat UDS can explain better07:02
markeyI see07:03
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BluesKajHi all11:19
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yofelcan someone please help me understand why gcc 4.7 can't build kdenetwork? I don't quite see what's wrong http://paste.ubuntu.com/987758/ 11:59
yofelCMakeFiles/kopete_qq.dir/evautil.o: In function `memset':11:59
yofel/usr/include/i386-linux-gnu/bits/string3.h:82: warning: memset used with constant zero length parameter; this could be due to transposed parameters11:59
yofelcollect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status11:59
yofelmake[2]: *** [lib/kopete_qq.so] Error 111:59
CIA-42[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kanagram] Philip Muškovac * 26 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.3-0ubuntu112:40
CIA-42[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdegraphics-strigi-analyzer] Philip Muškovac * 33 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.3-0ubuntu112:41
apacheloggeryofel: why, it appears one of the params is nil though it is not supposed to be :P12:44
yofelwell, there are 4 memset calls in that file, and the only parameter that's actually '0', is the byte that's being inserted.12:47
apacheloggerthat is only a warning though12:47
yofelld still fails12:47
apachelogger                memset( plain+1, rand()& 0xff, pos++ );12:47
apacheloggerpos++ apparently can evaluate to 012:47
yofeland just how (looking at the code above) should pos end up being -1 ?12:48
apacheloggerno clue12:48
yofelor it's warning about the possibility and fails on that o.O12:49
yofelstupid gcc12:49
apacheloggerok, again12:49
apacheloggerthis is a warning12:49
yofelthat's still the point where it fails. So if the warning isn't the issue, there's no error at all12:50
yofelI built with -j1 to make sure12:50
yofelif this would make sense I wouldn't be confused ^^12:51
CIA-42[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kgamma] Philip Muškovac * 23 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.3-0ubuntu112:54
apacheloggeryofel: the log is not from -j112:55
apacheloggermake[3]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....12:55
yofelno, that log isn't, that was the general pbuilder log with -j12. I later built with -j1 to make sure that's actually the point it fails on as it didn't make sense12:57
yofelI can get you a log from -j1 if you want12:57
apacheloggeryofel: please12:58
apacheloggerhowever you might have to put ld into verbose mode ... from the j12 log it is not at all clear what causes the failure12:58
apacheloggerno clue13:00
apacheloggersee if cmake has a var for that13:00
apacheloggeryou could probably just change the cmake linker cmd to ld -verbose13:00
yofelCMAKE_VERBOSE_MAKEFILE is already set, maybe I could build with -Wl,--verbose13:01
CIA-42[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/khangman] Philip Muškovac * 24 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.3-0ubuntu113:07
CIA-42[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kwordquiz] Philip Muškovac * 24 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.3-0ubuntu113:30
agateauyofel: note that pos++ evaluates to 0 if pos is 013:39
CIA-42[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdegraphics-mobipocket] Philip Muškovac * 36 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.3-0ubuntu113:46
agateauyofel: still it's weird: it's just a warning, and there are other warnings when building qq support: it may not be the reason ld fails13:50
yofelhere's the build with ld --verbose http://paste.ubuntu.com/992368/13:50
yofelagateau: actually, "-Wl,--fatal-warnings" sounds like a good reason to fail on that...13:52
* yofel tries to find out where that comes from13:53
agateauyofel: oh right13:53
CIA-42[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/parley] Philip Muškovac * 35 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.3-0ubuntu114:02
apolcan somebody help me with these errors? https://code.launchpad.net/~cyberspace/+recipe/cyberspace-muon-daily14:14
agateauapol: upload log says you are trying to upload an older version: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/105340891/upload_3754291_log.txt14:19
apolyes, but it's not14:21
apoli mean, it's today's, it can be older14:21
agateaumaybe somebody uploaded manually?14:21
apoli doubt it14:22
yofelwell, the revision is lower than what's in the archive14:22
apolagateau: would it help to push some changes to git maybe14:23
yofelyou might want to put {date} into the recipe package version somewhere14:23
yofelapol: that would mean pushing 106 commits so the bzr revno is high enough again14:24
yofelrather use date14:24
agateauapol: I did what yofel suggested for sal-qml14:24
yofelOR delete the PPA package14:24
yofeland wait for the janitor to purge all files14:24
agateauyofel: that won't help people who already have the package installed14:24
yofelgood point14:24
apolI'll add date then14:25
apolyofel: http://paste.kde.org/480854 << like that?14:25
yofelrather use something like {debupstream}~{date}14:26
yofeler wait14:26
yofelrather use something like {debupstream}~{date}~{revno}-314:26
yofelalthough yours would work too14:27
yofelppa packages are native packages anyway14:27
apolwe'll see what happens14:28
yofelapol: actually, use yours, mine would be too low I think14:29
CIA-42[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/jovie] Philip Muškovac * 12 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.3-0ubuntu114:36
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CIA-42[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/ark] Philip Muškovac * 17 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.3-0ubuntu114:54
CIA-42[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kcalc] Philip Muškovac * 12 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.3-0ubuntu115:36
CIA-42[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kgpg] Philip Muškovac * 15 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.3-0ubuntu115:48
CIA-42[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kremotecontrol] Philip Muškovac * 13 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.3-0ubuntu116:02
CIA-42[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kwallet] Philip Muškovac * 13 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.3-0ubuntu116:06
Mamarokthe KDE Quality team will do a beta testing week for KDE 4.9 from 1. to 6th of June, will Kubuntu have a beat read in the beta PPA? That would be awesome16:59
shadeslayerMamarok: if we don't, there's always neon :)17:01
shadeslayer( If this was a question about *just* testing KDE, packages are going to be a completely different beast altogether )17:02
Mamarokwell, yes, but would be easier to have it in the beta PPA17:02
shadeslayerI'd be able to help package it, but only after the 4th17:03
yofelonly if we get the 4.8.3 merging from debian done in a week17:03
shadeslayerheh, nope then :P17:03
yofeland I didn't  even manage to upload everything as kdenetwork doesn't build17:04
shadeslayersince yofel is the only one working on packaging right now17:04
Mamarokyofel: I was talking about packages for Precise, not Quantal17:04
shadeslayerMamarok: doesn't matter, we need to merge from debian first in any case17:04
shadeslayer*then* the packages get backported to Precise17:04
yofelMamarok: not much difference, we can't  start with 4.9 until we've merged with debian, which means merging 4.8.317:04
yofelwe could maybe do both at the same time17:05
Mamarokhm, right, but Precise already has 4.8.3, no?17:05
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yofeli.e. merge a package and update it to 4.9 right away17:05
yofelMamarok: I mean merging our packaging with the packaging of the debian-qt-kde team17:05
yofel.3 is about the only time when our versions are in sync17:06
yofelso only chance17:06
yofelif we do the updating right away (maybe using a git snapshot), we have ~2 weeks for 4.917:06
yofeltoday's final freeze, so shouldn't be too unreasonable17:07
* yofel won't promise anything though17:07
Mamarokyofel: OK, could you please tell me once you know?17:07
yofelask me again in a week.  I won't be there in the week from May 27th to June 2nd, so unless someone helps out I doubt we'll make Beta1 in time.17:09
shadeslayeryofel: have fun updating kdelibs and kde-runtime ( See packagers list for details if you haven't already )17:10
yofelshadeslayer: google and kolab? seen it. Doesn't make things easier :(17:12
shadeslayeryofel: hah! Nope. Nepomuk is moving out of runtime if I understand correctly17:12
shadeslayerTo quote "@Packagers: We will not be maintaining binary compatibility in nepomuk-core. At least not for KDE 4.10. We still need to break a lot of things."17:12
shadeslayer3 new packages for nepomuk17:13
shadeslayerand they'll have 2 different namespaces for the 4.9 release17:13
shadeslayeratleast that's what I've understood so far17:13
yofelshadeslayer: stop, please, at least let me sleep in peace until beta1 tagging17:14
shadeslayeryofel: no hurry, we can just tackle it after the 4th 17:14
yofelyeah, I'll be back by then too17:14
shadeslayerI'll be *completely* free after the 4th .... No more uni/exams17:15
Mamarokyofel: so maybe not beta 1 but beta 2 in that case17:17
yofelI'm optimistic about beta2, but there's lots to do in the little time to beta117:18
MamarokOK, that would work as well17:21
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nixternalok, here is what I am witnessing re: kopete. I keep it minimized to system tray and when opened it opens in the right top corner of the screen. when i open it, minimize it, and open it again later, I noticed it creeped a bit to the left. the more i do this throughout the day, the more it creeps to the left20:44
nixternalanyone else notice that if they have it setup similar to me?20:44
nixternalit has never done this in all of the years i have used kopete. it is strange, but nothing worth figuring out i don't think20:45
Daskreechcan somone ping me if Riddell turns up on the chan?22:05
yofelDaskreech: he said he's off for a few weeks, rather send him a mail22:14
Daskreechoh never mind then22:16
DaskreechWon't be timely22:16

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