[00:35] <JontheEchidna> I think our login screen should have a user list by default
[00:36] <JontheEchidna> just spent the last 15 minutes on the phone with a neighbor (who lives about 5 minutes away) who installed Kubuntu on a laptop, but then forgot their username :s
[00:36] <JontheEchidna> he's fairly tech savy (just not with Linux) so I told him to mount the drive in windows and look in /home to figure out the username
[00:37] <JontheEchidna> but I'd like to avoid this in the future, and if he's having troubles, others probably are too, lol
[00:39] <yofel_> JontheEchidna: we have a ligthdm-kde version with a user list. I would like to use that by default too if we can switch to ligthdm
[00:40] <JontheEchidna> yeah, lightdm-kde is awesome :)
[00:58] <JontheEchidna> this is a weird one: bug 1000508
[00:58] <JontheEchidna> (Basically, muon is broke in quantal. Can't do commits or update checks)
[01:01] <JontheEchidna> ^lol, must have lost power at work
[01:02] <JontheEchidna> (my alt. there just disconnected)
[01:03] <JontheEchidna> with this thunderstorm I can't say I'm surprised tho
[01:05] <yofel_> well, not the first thing I saw failing
[06:17] <markey> hey all
[06:17] <markey> :)
[06:17] <markey> has a new name already been found for Kubuntu?
[06:48] <markey> Mamarok: ^
[06:48] <Mamarok> markey: so far we stay with Kubuntu
[07:01] <markey> Mamarok: oh really, how comes?
[07:02] <Mamarok> I think those who were sat UDS can explain better
[07:02] <Mamarok> at*
[07:03] <markey> I see
[11:19] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[11:59] <yofel> can someone please help me understand why gcc 4.7 can't build kdenetwork? I don't quite see what's wrong http://paste.ubuntu.com/987758/ 
[11:59] <yofel> CMakeFiles/kopete_qq.dir/evautil.o: In function `memset':
[11:59] <yofel> /usr/include/i386-linux-gnu/bits/string3.h:82: warning: memset used with constant zero length parameter; this could be due to transposed parameters
[11:59] <yofel> collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status
[11:59] <yofel> make[2]: *** [lib/kopete_qq.so] Error 1
[12:40] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kanagram] Philip Muškovac * 26 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.3-0ubuntu1
[12:41] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdegraphics-strigi-analyzer] Philip Muškovac * 33 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.3-0ubuntu1
[12:44] <apachelogger> yofel: why, it appears one of the params is nil though it is not supposed to be :P
[12:47] <yofel> well, there are 4 memset calls in that file, and the only parameter that's actually '0', is the byte that's being inserted.
[12:47] <apachelogger> that is only a warning though
[12:47] <yofel> well
[12:47] <yofel> ld still fails
[12:47] <apachelogger>                 memset( plain+1, rand()& 0xff, pos++ );
[12:47] <apachelogger> pos++ apparently can evaluate to 0
[12:48] <yofel> and just how (looking at the code above) should pos end up being -1 ?
[12:48] <apachelogger> no clue
[12:49] <yofel> or it's warning about the possibility and fails on that o.O
[12:49] <yofel> stupid gcc
[12:49] <apachelogger> ok, again
[12:49] <apachelogger> this is a warning
[12:50] <yofel> that's still the point where it fails. So if the warning isn't the issue, there's no error at all
[12:50] <yofel> I built with -j1 to make sure
[12:51] <yofel> if this would make sense I wouldn't be confused ^^
[12:54] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kgamma] Philip Muškovac * 23 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.3-0ubuntu1
[12:55] <apachelogger> yofel: the log is not from -j1
[12:55] <apachelogger> make[3]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
[12:57] <yofel> no, that log isn't, that was the general pbuilder log with -j12. I later built with -j1 to make sure that's actually the point it fails on as it didn't make sense
[12:57] <yofel> I can get you a log from -j1 if you want
[12:58] <apachelogger> yofel: please
[12:58] <apachelogger> however you might have to put ld into verbose mode ... from the j12 log it is not at all clear what causes the failure
[12:59] <yofel> how?
[13:00] <apachelogger> no clue
[13:00] <apachelogger> see if cmake has a var for that
[13:00] <apachelogger> you could probably just change the cmake linker cmd to ld -verbose
[13:01] <yofel> CMAKE_VERBOSE_MAKEFILE is already set, maybe I could build with -Wl,--verbose
[13:07] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/khangman] Philip Muškovac * 24 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.3-0ubuntu1
[13:30] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kwordquiz] Philip Muškovac * 24 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.3-0ubuntu1
[13:39] <agateau> yofel: note that pos++ evaluates to 0 if pos is 0
[13:39] <yofel> *headdesk*
[13:39] <yofel> right
[13:46] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdegraphics-mobipocket] Philip Muškovac * 36 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.3-0ubuntu1
[13:50] <agateau> yofel: still it's weird: it's just a warning, and there are other warnings when building qq support: it may not be the reason ld fails
[13:50] <yofel> here's the build with ld --verbose http://paste.ubuntu.com/992368/
[13:52] <yofel> agateau: actually, "-Wl,--fatal-warnings" sounds like a good reason to fail on that...
[13:53]  * yofel tries to find out where that comes from
[13:53] <agateau> yofel: oh right
[14:02] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/parley] Philip Muškovac * 35 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.3-0ubuntu1
[14:14] <apol> can somebody help me with these errors? https://code.launchpad.net/~cyberspace/+recipe/cyberspace-muon-daily
[14:14] <apol> -.-
[14:19] <agateau> apol: upload log says you are trying to upload an older version: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/105340891/upload_3754291_log.txt
[14:21] <apol> yes, but it's not
[14:21] <apol> i mean, it's today's, it can be older
[14:21] <agateau> maybe somebody uploaded manually?
[14:22] <apol> i doubt it
[14:22] <yofel> well, the revision is lower than what's in the archive
[14:23] <apol> agateau: would it help to push some changes to git maybe
[14:23] <apol> ?
[14:23] <yofel> you might want to put {date} into the recipe package version somewhere
[14:24] <yofel> apol: that would mean pushing 106 commits so the bzr revno is high enough again
[14:24] <yofel> rather use date
[14:24] <agateau> apol: I did what yofel suggested for sal-qml
[14:24] <yofel> OR delete the PPA package
[14:24] <yofel> and wait for the janitor to purge all files
[14:24] <agateau> yofel: that won't help people who already have the package installed
[14:24] <yofel> good point
[14:24] <apol> ok
[14:25] <apol> I'll add date then
[14:25] <apol> yofel: http://paste.kde.org/480854 << like that?
[14:26] <yofel> rather use something like {debupstream}~{date}
[14:26] <yofel> er wait
[14:26] <yofel> rather use something like {debupstream}~{date}~{revno}-3
[14:27] <yofel> although yours would work too
[14:27] <yofel> ppa packages are native packages anyway
[14:28] <apol> ok
[14:28] <apol> changed
[14:28] <apol> we'll see what happens
[14:29] <yofel> apol: actually, use yours, mine would be too low I think
[14:29] <apol> ok
[14:30] <apol> https://code.launchpad.net/~cyberspace/+recipe/cyberspace-muon-daily
[14:36] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/jovie] Philip Muškovac * 12 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.3-0ubuntu1
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[16:59] <Mamarok> the KDE Quality team will do a beta testing week for KDE 4.9 from 1. to 6th of June, will Kubuntu have a beat read in the beta PPA? That would be awesome
[17:00] <Mamarok> beta*
[17:01] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: if we don't, there's always neon :)
[17:02] <shadeslayer> ( If this was a question about *just* testing KDE, packages are going to be a completely different beast altogether )
[17:02] <Mamarok> well, yes, but would be easier to have it in the beta PPA
[17:03] <shadeslayer> I'd be able to help package it, but only after the 4th
[17:03] <yofel> only if we get the 4.8.3 merging from debian done in a week
[17:03] <shadeslayer> heh, nope then :P
[17:04] <yofel> and I didn't  even manage to upload everything as kdenetwork doesn't build
[17:04] <shadeslayer> since yofel is the only one working on packaging right now
[17:04] <Mamarok> yofel: I was talking about packages for Precise, not Quantal
[17:04] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: doesn't matter, we need to merge from debian first in any case
[17:04] <shadeslayer> *then* the packages get backported to Precise
[17:04] <yofel> Mamarok: not much difference, we can't  start with 4.9 until we've merged with debian, which means merging 4.8.3
[17:04] <yofel> hm
[17:05] <yofel> we could maybe do both at the same time
[17:05] <Mamarok> hm, right, but Precise already has 4.8.3, no?
[17:05] <yofel> i.e. merge a package and update it to 4.9 right away
[17:05] <yofel> Mamarok: I mean merging our packaging with the packaging of the debian-qt-kde team
[17:06] <yofel> .3 is about the only time when our versions are in sync
[17:06] <yofel> so only chance
[17:06] <yofel> if we do the updating right away (maybe using a git snapshot), we have ~2 weeks for 4.9
[17:07] <yofel> today's final freeze, so shouldn't be too unreasonable
[17:07]  * yofel won't promise anything though
[17:07] <Mamarok> yofel: OK, could you please tell me once you know?
[17:09] <yofel> ask me again in a week.  I won't be there in the week from May 27th to June 2nd, so unless someone helps out I doubt we'll make Beta1 in time.
[17:10] <shadeslayer> yofel: have fun updating kdelibs and kde-runtime ( See packagers list for details if you haven't already )
[17:12] <yofel> shadeslayer: google and kolab? seen it. Doesn't make things easier :(
[17:12] <shadeslayer> yofel: hah! Nope. Nepomuk is moving out of runtime if I understand correctly
[17:12] <yofel> oh
[17:12] <yofel> "fun"
[17:12] <shadeslayer> To quote "@Packagers: We will not be maintaining binary compatibility in nepomuk-core. At least not for KDE 4.10. We still need to break a lot of things."
[17:13] <shadeslayer> 3 new packages for nepomuk
[17:13] <shadeslayer> and they'll have 2 different namespaces for the 4.9 release
[17:13] <shadeslayer> atleast that's what I've understood so far
[17:14] <yofel> shadeslayer: stop, please, at least let me sleep in peace until beta1 tagging
[17:14] <shadeslayer> :P
[17:14] <shadeslayer> yofel: no hurry, we can just tackle it after the 4th 
[17:14] <yofel> yeah, I'll be back by then too
[17:15] <shadeslayer> I'll be *completely* free after the 4th .... No more uni/exams
[17:15] <shadeslayer> cya
[17:17] <Mamarok> yofel: so maybe not beta 1 but beta 2 in that case
[17:18] <yofel> I'm optimistic about beta2, but there's lots to do in the little time to beta1
[17:21] <Mamarok> OK, that would work as well
[20:44] <nixternal> ok, here is what I am witnessing re: kopete. I keep it minimized to system tray and when opened it opens in the right top corner of the screen. when i open it, minimize it, and open it again later, I noticed it creeped a bit to the left. the more i do this throughout the day, the more it creeps to the left
[20:44] <nixternal> anyone else notice that if they have it setup similar to me?
[20:45] <nixternal> it has never done this in all of the years i have used kopete. it is strange, but nothing worth figuring out i don't think
[22:05] <Daskreech> can somone ping me if Riddell turns up on the chan?
[22:14] <yofel> Daskreech: he said he's off for a few weeks, rather send him a mail
[22:16] <Daskreech> oh never mind then
[22:16] <Daskreech> Won't be timely