[00:35] I think our login screen should have a user list by default [00:36] just spent the last 15 minutes on the phone with a neighbor (who lives about 5 minutes away) who installed Kubuntu on a laptop, but then forgot their username :s [00:36] he's fairly tech savy (just not with Linux) so I told him to mount the drive in windows and look in /home to figure out the username [00:37] but I'd like to avoid this in the future, and if he's having troubles, others probably are too, lol [00:39] JontheEchidna: we have a ligthdm-kde version with a user list. I would like to use that by default too if we can switch to ligthdm [00:40] yeah, lightdm-kde is awesome :) [00:58] this is a weird one: bug 1000508 [00:58] Launchpad bug 1000508 in gcc-4.7 (Ubuntu) "PendingMessages member variable of APT's GlobalError class initializes as "true" with -std=c++11" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1000508 [00:58] (Basically, muon is broke in quantal. Can't do commits or update checks) [01:01] ^lol, must have lost power at work [01:02] (my alt. there just disconnected) [01:03] with this thunderstorm I can't say I'm surprised tho [01:05] well, not the first thing I saw failing === jalcine is now known as Jacky === nihui_ is now known as nihui [06:17] hey all [06:17] :) [06:17] has a new name already been found for Kubuntu? [06:48] Mamarok: ^ [06:48] markey: so far we stay with Kubuntu [07:01] Mamarok: oh really, how comes? [07:02] I think those who were sat UDS can explain better [07:02] at* [07:03] I see === Blizzzek is now known as Blizzz [11:19] Hi all === yofel_ is now known as yofel === mgraesslin_ is now known as mgraesslin [11:59] can someone please help me understand why gcc 4.7 can't build kdenetwork? I don't quite see what's wrong http://paste.ubuntu.com/987758/ [11:59] CMakeFiles/kopete_qq.dir/evautil.o: In function `memset': [11:59] /usr/include/i386-linux-gnu/bits/string3.h:82: warning: memset used with constant zero length parameter; this could be due to transposed parameters [11:59] collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status [11:59] make[2]: *** [lib/kopete_qq.so] Error 1 [12:40] [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kanagram] Philip Muškovac * 26 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.3-0ubuntu1 [12:41] [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdegraphics-strigi-analyzer] Philip Muškovac * 33 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.3-0ubuntu1 [12:44] yofel: why, it appears one of the params is nil though it is not supposed to be :P [12:47] well, there are 4 memset calls in that file, and the only parameter that's actually '0', is the byte that's being inserted. [12:47] that is only a warning though [12:47] well [12:47] ld still fails [12:47] memset( plain+1, rand()& 0xff, pos++ ); [12:47] pos++ apparently can evaluate to 0 [12:48] and just how (looking at the code above) should pos end up being -1 ? [12:48] no clue [12:49] or it's warning about the possibility and fails on that o.O [12:49] stupid gcc [12:49] ok, again [12:49] this is a warning [12:50] that's still the point where it fails. So if the warning isn't the issue, there's no error at all [12:50] I built with -j1 to make sure [12:51] if this would make sense I wouldn't be confused ^^ [12:54] [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kgamma] Philip Muškovac * 23 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.3-0ubuntu1 [12:55] yofel: the log is not from -j1 [12:55] make[3]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs.... [12:57] no, that log isn't, that was the general pbuilder log with -j12. I later built with -j1 to make sure that's actually the point it fails on as it didn't make sense [12:57] I can get you a log from -j1 if you want [12:58] yofel: please [12:58] however you might have to put ld into verbose mode ... from the j12 log it is not at all clear what causes the failure [12:59] how? [13:00] no clue [13:00] see if cmake has a var for that [13:00] you could probably just change the cmake linker cmd to ld -verbose [13:01] CMAKE_VERBOSE_MAKEFILE is already set, maybe I could build with -Wl,--verbose [13:07] [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/khangman] Philip Muškovac * 24 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.3-0ubuntu1 [13:30] [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kwordquiz] Philip Muškovac * 24 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.3-0ubuntu1 [13:39] yofel: note that pos++ evaluates to 0 if pos is 0 [13:39] *headdesk* [13:39] right [13:46] [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdegraphics-mobipocket] Philip Muškovac * 36 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.3-0ubuntu1 [13:50] yofel: still it's weird: it's just a warning, and there are other warnings when building qq support: it may not be the reason ld fails [13:50] here's the build with ld --verbose http://paste.ubuntu.com/992368/ [13:52] agateau: actually, "-Wl,--fatal-warnings" sounds like a good reason to fail on that... [13:53] * yofel tries to find out where that comes from [13:53] yofel: oh right [14:02] [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/parley] Philip Muškovac * 35 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.3-0ubuntu1 [14:14] can somebody help me with these errors? https://code.launchpad.net/~cyberspace/+recipe/cyberspace-muon-daily [14:14] -.- [14:19] apol: upload log says you are trying to upload an older version: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/105340891/upload_3754291_log.txt [14:21] yes, but it's not [14:21] i mean, it's today's, it can be older [14:21] maybe somebody uploaded manually? [14:22] i doubt it [14:22] well, the revision is lower than what's in the archive [14:23] agateau: would it help to push some changes to git maybe [14:23] ? [14:23] you might want to put {date} into the recipe package version somewhere [14:24] apol: that would mean pushing 106 commits so the bzr revno is high enough again [14:24] rather use date [14:24] apol: I did what yofel suggested for sal-qml [14:24] OR delete the PPA package [14:24] and wait for the janitor to purge all files [14:24] yofel: that won't help people who already have the package installed [14:24] good point [14:24] ok [14:25] I'll add date then [14:25] yofel: http://paste.kde.org/480854 << like that? [14:26] rather use something like {debupstream}~{date} [14:26] er wait [14:26] rather use something like {debupstream}~{date}~{revno}-3 [14:27] although yours would work too [14:27] ppa packages are native packages anyway [14:28] ok [14:28] changed [14:28] we'll see what happens [14:29] apol: actually, use yours, mine would be too low I think [14:29] ok [14:30] https://code.launchpad.net/~cyberspace/+recipe/cyberspace-muon-daily [14:36] [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/jovie] Philip Muškovac * 12 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.3-0ubuntu1 === rdieter_laptop is now known as rdieter [14:54] [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/ark] Philip Muškovac * 17 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.3-0ubuntu1 [15:36] [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kcalc] Philip Muškovac * 12 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.3-0ubuntu1 [15:48] [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kgpg] Philip Muškovac * 15 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.3-0ubuntu1 [16:02] [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kremotecontrol] Philip Muškovac * 13 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.3-0ubuntu1 [16:06] [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kwallet] Philip Muškovac * 13 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.3-0ubuntu1 [16:59] the KDE Quality team will do a beta testing week for KDE 4.9 from 1. to 6th of June, will Kubuntu have a beat read in the beta PPA? That would be awesome [17:00] beta* [17:01] Mamarok: if we don't, there's always neon :) [17:02] ( If this was a question about *just* testing KDE, packages are going to be a completely different beast altogether ) [17:02] well, yes, but would be easier to have it in the beta PPA [17:03] I'd be able to help package it, but only after the 4th [17:03] only if we get the 4.8.3 merging from debian done in a week [17:03] heh, nope then :P [17:04] and I didn't even manage to upload everything as kdenetwork doesn't build [17:04] since yofel is the only one working on packaging right now [17:04] yofel: I was talking about packages for Precise, not Quantal [17:04] Mamarok: doesn't matter, we need to merge from debian first in any case [17:04] *then* the packages get backported to Precise [17:04] Mamarok: not much difference, we can't start with 4.9 until we've merged with debian, which means merging 4.8.3 [17:04] hm [17:05] we could maybe do both at the same time [17:05] hm, right, but Precise already has 4.8.3, no? === bulldog98_ is now known as bulldog98 [17:05] i.e. merge a package and update it to 4.9 right away [17:05] Mamarok: I mean merging our packaging with the packaging of the debian-qt-kde team [17:06] .3 is about the only time when our versions are in sync [17:06] so only chance [17:06] if we do the updating right away (maybe using a git snapshot), we have ~2 weeks for 4.9 [17:07] today's final freeze, so shouldn't be too unreasonable [17:07] * yofel won't promise anything though [17:07] yofel: OK, could you please tell me once you know? [17:09] ask me again in a week. I won't be there in the week from May 27th to June 2nd, so unless someone helps out I doubt we'll make Beta1 in time. [17:10] yofel: have fun updating kdelibs and kde-runtime ( See packagers list for details if you haven't already ) [17:12] shadeslayer: google and kolab? seen it. Doesn't make things easier :( [17:12] yofel: hah! Nope. Nepomuk is moving out of runtime if I understand correctly [17:12] oh [17:12] "fun" [17:12] To quote "@Packagers: We will not be maintaining binary compatibility in nepomuk-core. At least not for KDE 4.10. We still need to break a lot of things." [17:13] 3 new packages for nepomuk [17:13] and they'll have 2 different namespaces for the 4.9 release [17:13] atleast that's what I've understood so far [17:14] shadeslayer: stop, please, at least let me sleep in peace until beta1 tagging [17:14] :P [17:14] yofel: no hurry, we can just tackle it after the 4th [17:14] yeah, I'll be back by then too [17:15] I'll be *completely* free after the 4th .... No more uni/exams [17:15] cya [17:17] yofel: so maybe not beta 1 but beta 2 in that case [17:18] I'm optimistic about beta2, but there's lots to do in the little time to beta1 [17:21] OK, that would work as well === mgraesslin_ is now known as mgraesslin [20:44] ok, here is what I am witnessing re: kopete. I keep it minimized to system tray and when opened it opens in the right top corner of the screen. when i open it, minimize it, and open it again later, I noticed it creeped a bit to the left. the more i do this throughout the day, the more it creeps to the left [20:44] anyone else notice that if they have it setup similar to me? [20:45] it has never done this in all of the years i have used kopete. it is strange, but nothing worth figuring out i don't think [22:05] can somone ping me if Riddell turns up on the chan? [22:14] Daskreech: he said he's off for a few weeks, rather send him a mail [22:16] oh never mind then [22:16] Won't be timely