[00:08] <ox1de> where are the power save settings? i have power manager, but where is power save settings?
[00:08] <RuediiX> Power manager, that would likely be it.
[00:10] <ox1de> doesnt seem towork in power manager
[00:10] <ox1de> what do i adjust in power manager?
[00:10] <Marqeaux> @ox1de: Check here: http://static.afbeeldinguploaden.nl/1205/10870/3GA0L.png
[00:11] <RuediiX> OK, there should be a little applet you can add to your panel to adjust it.    (Rightclick on panel, add applet to panel.)
[00:11] <RuediiX> OXLDE  It should say backlight on full when plugged in.
[00:12] <RuediiX> oxlde Check the box.  It may be a slider, in which case, you slide it to full.
[00:17] <ox1de> still dim...
[00:18] <ox1de> i'll reboot
[00:18] <ox1de> brb
[00:21] <ox1de> Ok, its still dim d(>_<)b
[00:23] <Marqeaux> What about trying the "Fn" button (push it in!), and find the symbol "sun" on your keyboard. Does that respond?
[00:24] <ox1de> no
[00:25] <ox1de> wait, yes that workd!!
[00:25] <ox1de> thank you
[00:25] <ox1de> :)
[00:26] <ox1de> ok its bright agan
[00:26] <Marqeaux> Aha! That did the trick! Nice....
[00:26] <ox1de> word
[00:26] <ox1de> thanks again
[00:26] <Marqeaux> Sometimes the solution is simpler than you'd expect. That's why I always start simple...
[00:27] <Marqeaux> Ah... he's gone! I guess he's so happy, he'll dance around his living room! Lol....
[00:29] <Marqeaux> Anyway... good night everybody!
[02:24] <L3top> Hello. I have a laptop and the media controls (XF86Audio*) do not seem to be mapped to anything in alsa. Was hoping someone could tell me what I might look at to fix this to Master.
[02:29] <Odd-rationale> L3top: Do you see the proper output when you press the key while running xev?
[02:29] <L3top> yes
[02:30] <L3top> xev and HUD demonstrate they are working Odd-rationale
[02:30] <Odd-rationale> What shorcuts are set in the Global Shortcuts for Kmix?
[02:31] <L3top> Checking...
[02:31] <L3top> hmm... I cant seem to open kmix.
[02:32] <L3top> cycled for a while and just went away... no crash/debug window
[02:33] <L3top> same again.
[02:34] <Odd-rationale> Perhaps you have this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdemultimedia/+bug/963895
[02:35] <Odd-rationale> It is listed as a known bug on the Kubuntu 12.04 release notes
[02:36] <L3top> No... PEBKAC there... it was hiding.
[02:40] <L3top> http://i50.tinypic.com/2m66gra.png
[02:41] <L3top> Got it.
[02:41] <L3top> It was clearly set to hdmi by default... ty Odd-rationale.
[02:42] <Odd-rationale> OK. Cool. Glad you got it sorted out!
[03:29] <mixolyd> hi :D
[03:29] <mixolyd> can someone help me out? I posted this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1981503
[03:29] <mixolyd> having trouble with booting kubuntu for the first time
[03:29] <mixolyd> it works on ubuntu, but I don't wnat to use that
[03:33] <Odd-rationale> mixolyd: That is strange. Have you tried switching tty's? Ctrl+Alt+F7
[03:33] <mixolyd> i'm a nub
[03:34] <mixolyd> what's ttys?
[03:34] <mixolyd> I can try it
[03:34] <mixolyd> when do I press it?
[03:34] <Odd-rationale> Try switching from ctrl+alt+f1-f8
[03:34] <mixolyd> btw i didn't menion that kubuntu works fine on live CD
[03:35] <Odd-rationale> Try when you're stuck on the black screen after it booted up
[03:35] <mixolyd> oh that was only when I did ACPI workaround on boot options
[03:35] <Odd-rationale> Yeah, I just reiewed your forum post.
[03:35] <Odd-rationale> *reviewed
[03:35] <mixolyd> thank you
[03:36] <mixolyd> it normally just goes to that loading screen with the dots and gets stuck there
[03:36] <mixolyd> should I press alt+ctrl+f1-f8 there?
[03:37] <Odd-rationale> mixolyd: If it is stuck there, then it probably won't work. But you can try.
[03:37] <mixolyd> why do you think ubuntu works but kubuntu doesn't? aren't they essengtially the same
[03:38] <mixolyd> worth a try
[03:38] <Odd-rationale> mixolyd: Well, the login managers are different. Ubuntu uses lightdm. Kubuntu uses KDM.
[03:39] <Odd-rationale> Kubuntu will be switching to lightdm-kde soon, so i hear.
[03:39] <mixolyd> oh ic
[03:39] <L3top> what?
[03:40] <L3top> Oh noes.
[03:40] <mixolyd> i did think it was a problem with login manager
[03:40] <mixolyd> just not sure what I can do
[03:40] <mixolyd> it's strange that live CD works fine
[03:40]  * mixolyd shrugs
[03:41] <Odd-rationale> mixolyd: Have you tried reinstalling?
[03:41] <L3top> mixolyd: afaik the live cd uses the fbdev driver...
[03:41] <mixolyd> Odd-rationale, many times, tried both 32bit and 64bit
[03:41] <L3top> mixolyd: can you please give me the output of lspci -nn | grep VGA
[03:41] <mixolyd> how can I do that? i'm new sorry
[03:42] <Odd-rationale> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1981503
[03:42] <L3top> sorry... in a terminal
[03:42] <mixolyd> i can't get anywhere to type commands
[03:42] <Odd-rationale> L3top: ^
[03:42] <L3top> looking*
[03:42] <mixolyd> wow my thread is getting spammed lol
[03:43] <L3top> wow thats allotta spam
[03:43] <Odd-rationale> Just reported the spammer. hopefully the mods will take care of it soo.
[03:44] <mixolyd> spam is gone, wow that was fast!
[03:50] <Odd-rationale> mixolyd: I looked up the specs of your machine. Do you have the integrated Intel graphics card or the NVIDIA?
[03:50] <mixolyd> intel 965 integrated
[03:54] <Odd-rationale> mixolyd: I'm rather at my wits end. But did you verify the iso file that you downloaded?
[03:54] <mixolyd> Wudi does that
[03:54] <mixolyd> but I did redownload too
[03:54] <mixolyd> sigh oh well
[03:54] <mixolyd> thanks anyway :) i'll try opensuse
[03:55] <Odd-rationale> mixolyd: No problem. openSUSE is a great KDE distro.
[03:55] <L3top> It seems related to your broadcom wireless for some reason.
[03:55] <Odd-rationale> mixolyd: Don't have Wubi support though...
[03:55] <L3top> you might try blacklisting that... I am not a big fan of wubi
[03:56] <Odd-rationale> L3top: Why would Wubi Ubuntu work?
[03:56] <mixolyd> L3 - ubuntu loads up fine without the broadcom driver.. makes me install firmware but still boots up
[03:58] <L3top> I understand... I am just looking at the screenshot, I don't have a clue why the one would go and the other wouldn't, esp not related to GPU... but I frankly wouldn't expect the intel to be a problem and indeed you hit that lack of firmware and everything starts stopping
[03:59] <Odd-rationale> "starts stopping" :)
[03:59] <mixolyd> yeah
[03:59] <mixolyd> guess i'm SOl
[03:59] <mixolyd> thank you though
[04:01] <L3top> well... I am not sure you are SOL if you can use the normal install CD.
[04:01] <L3top> or usb
[04:01] <Odd-rationale> mixolyd: tried rebooting to windows then reboot again to Kubuntu?
[04:01] <mixolyd> yes
[04:02] <Odd-rationale> OK. I give up. I'll stop giving silly suggestions. :)
[04:02] <mixolyd> its ok i'll just try another distro.. not a big deal :)
[04:24] <asobi> any reason why dolphin doesn't auto refresh?
[05:11] <artao> WTF!!!
[05:17] <JMichaelX> i just installed kubuntu 12.04 on a dell mini 9 last night... much nicer than i had expected it to be.
[05:48] <Tamagotono> Anyone here have any problems with Amarok scanning ALL folders even ones that were not selected?
[07:28] <lordievader> Good morning
[07:29] <LukaM> morrning
[07:29] <lordievader> LukaM: Hey, how are you?
[07:30] <LukaM> Drinking first coffee of the day, readning eamil, getting ready to work
[07:30] <LukaM> and you?
[07:32] <lordievader> Making some tea, waking up...
[09:12] <jessy> hey there, i'm new on linux, using kubuntu but i couldn't find my .login file where is it ?
[09:14] <Wizard> What is .login? One of shell/login associated config files?
[09:14] <jessy> i'm trying to set my system variables
[09:14] <jessy> i used PATH=... and then export
[09:14] <jessy> but everytime when i restart my computer that variables also gone
[09:14] <jessy> :S
[09:16] <lordievader> jessy: Why are you trying to (re)set the system variables?
[09:16] <jessy> i'm trying to install qt-mobility
[09:16] <Wizard> jessy: It's in repo, I think.
[09:16] <jessy> In .profile (if your Unix shell is bash,ksh,zsh or sh), add the following lines  LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$TARGET_DIR/lib:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH  export LD_LIBRARY_PATH
[09:17] <lordievader> Wizard: I don't see it in the repo.
[09:17] <jessy> where i should add these lines :)
[09:17] <Wizard> jessy: ~/.bashrc is a good place.
[09:17] <jessy> Wizard: let me investigate :p
[09:17] <lordievader> jessy: Or you might mean ~/.bash_profile
[09:18] <jessy> lordievader: ~/.bash_profile doesn't exist
[09:18] <Wizard> jessy: You can allways create it.
[09:18] <lordievader> jessy: You could create it
[09:20] <jessy> lordievader: so i created that file and then what i must to do :)
[09:20] <jessy> should i just paste  LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$TARGET_DIR/lib:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH  export LD_LIBRARY_PATH
[09:21] <Wizard> jessy: This can mess things up.
[09:21] <lordievader> jessy: No idea, I'm still not sure what you are trying to do...
[09:21] <Wizard> Me neither.
[09:21] <jessy> http://doc.qt.nokia.com/qtmobility/installation.html
[09:22] <jessy> Making the libraries available on Unix
[09:22] <lordievader> jessy: You downloaded the source?
[09:23] <jessy> i download and compiled
[09:23] <jessy> but i couldn't set that variables
[09:23] <lordievader> jessy: So you did the ./configure; make; sudo make install?
[09:24] <jessy> yup
[09:24] <lordievader> jessy: Isn't it an dev thingie? Seems to be an api... *doesn't know QT*
[09:25] <jessy> nope it's in my TARGET directory but i should set this folder as Making the libraries available on Unixsaid
[09:26] <jessy> i just wanna know where should i set these variables
[09:27] <jessy> In .profile (if your Unix shell is bash,ksh,zsh or sh), add the following lines  LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$TARGET_DIR/lib:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH  export LD_LIBRARY_PATH where can i set this ?
[09:27] <lordievader> jessy: http://tronprog.blogspot.com/2010/06/building-qt-mobility-in-ubuntu.html
[09:36] <jessy> lordievader: thanks for the link it helps works like a charm atm, but i'm still wondering what does "In .profile (if your Unix shell is bash,ksh,zsh or sh), add the following lines  LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$TARGET_DIR/lib:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH  export LD_LIBRARY_PATH"
[09:38] <lordievader> jessy: Perhaps that is more for unix systems (linux is unix like, not unix)
[09:40] <Ab3L> hi
[09:40] <Marqeaux> Hi...
[09:41] <lordievader> Hello, how are you all?
[09:41] <Ab3L> Does everybody speak in English here? Or is there other semiofficial idioms?
[09:43] <lordievader> This channel is English, there are other channels for different languages.
[09:51] <andrew8665> Welldone
[09:59] <andrew8665> cenima 4D works well under wine as its coded in QT
[10:02] <andrew8665> KDE 4,8 like biting into a jucy sloppy cheese burger, Gnome like biting into a fat stack of crackers.
[10:03] <lordievader> andrew8665: Gnome 2.x, 3.x or unity?
[10:03] <andrew8665> any-
[10:03] <andrew8665> Gnome is like win98
[10:04] <lordievader> andrew8665: 3.x/shell and unity are quite unlike win98...
[10:04] <andrew8665> As far as the GUI? yuck-
[10:54] <sky100>  want to get the folder which was by default on my desktop after installing kubuntu 12.04 .. how to get it back ?
[10:54] <sky100> by mistake i removed it
[10:55] <sky100> pls help
[11:01] <tsimpson> just add the Folder View widget to the desktop
[11:01] <mydogsnameisrudy> add widget  folderview
[11:01] <mydogsnameisrudy> ;)
[11:02] <sky100> ok tsimpson
[11:02] <sky100> ty mydogsnameisrudy
[11:03] <mydogsnameisrudy> yep
[11:03] <sky100> gonna get it .. let me c
[11:16] <sky100> hi BluesKaj
[11:19] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[11:20] <BluesKaj> hi sky100
[11:20] <sky100> i have been able to install Kubuntu12.04 on my other partions , BluesKaj
[11:21] <BluesKaj> sky100, good to hear , / and /home and swap?
[11:21] <sky100> yep
[11:21] <sky100> & /boot as well
[11:22] <BluesKaj> why a /boot . not necessary
[11:23] <sky100> i was going through a tutorial which said  /boot is to be configured
[11:23] <BluesKaj> which tutorial ..got a url ?
[11:23] <sky100> i gave / boot some 300 MB
[11:23] <sky100> just a min
[11:25] <sky100> BluesKaj, : here is the url : http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2011/05/12/manual-disk-partitioning-guide-for-kubuntu-11-04/
[11:29] <BluesKaj> sky100, interesting , that the first time I've seen a /boot partition recommended in a tutorial . It may have to do with all the grub problems and windows mbr on dual boot setups
[11:31] <sky100> i see BluesKaj
[11:31] <sky100> ok
[11:32] <sky100> BluesKaj,  : I followed the tutorial in letters , & Kubuntu installed without a pinch of issue
[11:38] <BluesKaj> sky100, it's not really necessary , but apparently it used to be common practice before grub2 was released
[11:40] <sky100> BluesKaj, : i see
[11:42] <BluesKaj> the claim is to be able to boot a messed up system , but that's what most ppl use the tty for, and the live cd
[11:45] <sky100> i see BluesKaj
[11:45] <BluesKaj> anyway it's not a bad thing :)
[11:46] <sky100> ok , thanx for your confirmation
[11:46] <sky100> i was bit worried :|
[11:46] <BluesKaj> it does take away a partition tho
[11:47] <sky100> yep , a small partition though
[11:48] <BluesKaj> so if you need another partition for another OS , then you might have to sacrifice the swap or the boot
[11:49] <sky100> but i have 21Gb unallocated
[11:49] <BluesKaj> doesn
[11:50] <sky100> though i dont need to install any other OS  than having 2 OS on my this system..
[11:50] <sky100> XP & kubuntu.. enough for this old machine to bear with
[11:51] <sky100> nowadays i bearly use MS
[11:51] <sky100> barely*
[11:52] <sky100> i want to get a empty folder on my desktop.. how could i ?
[11:52] <sky100> an*
[11:53] <BluesKaj> 4 primary partitions is the max , afaik
[11:53] <CruX|> true
[11:55] <sky100> yeak BluesKaj
[11:55] <sky100> h*
[11:57] <BluesKaj> I use an older hdd for testing OSs ..got tired of the partitoning probs , altho grub likes to migrate to last linux OS installed
[11:59] <sky100> i see
[11:59] <sky100> yep .. its always advisable to stay away from partitioning .: BluesKaj
[11:59] <BluesKaj> which I find odd , and not to my liking in case this old drive dies , then I have to reinstall grub on th other drive
[12:00] <sky100> better  is to have a seperate HDD & dedicate the same to kubuntu
[12:01] <sky100> no chance of messing up
[12:01] <sky100> u stay cler & safe :)
[12:01] <sky100> clear*
[12:05] <BluesKaj> I use the main HDD for 12.04 , a WD3600 , and this older drive, a WD1600 for 12.10 testing ...so far so good
[12:10] <sky100> cool
[12:11] <sky100> whats the size BluesKaj ?
[12:11] <sky100> arnd 320Gb or even more ?
[12:11] <lordievader> Hey BluesKaj, sky100. How are you both?
[12:11] <sky100> hey lordievader
[12:12] <sky100> im fine , ty lordievader , how abt you
[12:12] <BluesKaj> the WD3600 is 360G and the WD1600 is 160G , also i have 1TB external sata drive for media files
[12:12] <BluesKaj> hi lordievader
[12:12] <lordievader> I'm doing allright
[12:12] <sky100> lordievader,  .. u would be glad to note that  i habe been able to install Kubuntu 12.04 on my other partition
[12:13] <sky100> have*
[12:13] <lordievader> sky100: Good for you :)
[12:13] <sky100> & so far it okay
[12:13] <BluesKaj> fine thanks lordievader
[12:13] <sky100> yep .. im happy to get kubuntu back .. which i was missing badly
[12:14] <lordievader> Yeah, once you are familliar with the system it becomes a dream. And you wish, when you are using Windows, that it is more like linux XD
[12:15] <sky100> lol
[12:15] <Wizard> I use windows everyday!
[12:16] <Wizard> My cat likes them too.
[12:16] <sky100> :p
[12:16] <Wizard> Fresh air is good for thinking ;]
[12:16] <Wizard> (Sorry, I had to do this)
[12:16] <lordievader> Looking out into the world, dreaming, is good too!
[12:16] <Wizard> :]
[12:16] <Wizard> Even my cat likes it!
[12:17] <sky100> now  have to install adobe flash & other stuffs
[12:17] <lordievader> Wow that is quite a feat for Windows :P
[12:17] <Wizard> sky100: apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[12:17] <Wizard> ;]
[12:17] <Wizard> Pack of codecs, flashes, java plugins and so.
[12:18] <BluesKaj> yes , periodically I decide to dual boot to catch up on windows and to help friends who have probs , to refamiliarize myself with windows so i can help them , but after 2 week or so I always get tired of the windows quirks and i wipe it
[12:18] <lordievader> I have it installed for photo work and audio. That are the only things I use it for.
[12:18] <sky100> oh i find the you tube videos are running .. then adobe is installed ..
[12:18] <sky100> dunno how it got installed on its own !!
[12:18] <Wizard> sky100: Hmm. HTML5? :>
[12:19] <BluesKaj> haven't done any dual booting for a couple of yrs tho
[12:19] <Wizard> sky100: you can allways check it in package manager.
[12:19] <sky100> ok
[12:19] <sky100> i installed apper
[12:19] <Wizard> sky100: fastest method is: dpkg -l | grep flash
[12:20] <chachan> guys, is there a backport or something to get a different phonon backend?. I'm not confortable with gstreamer nor vlc
[12:20] <BluesKaj> sky100, flash gets installed by default with kubuntu
[12:20] <Wizard> sky100: solved :D
[12:20] <sky100> wow
[12:20] <sky100> yeah Wizard
[12:20] <chachan> vlc doesn't allow me to set equalizer
[12:20] <sky100> thats the beauty of kbuntu
[12:21] <Wizard> I still can't belive I returned to KDE and I don't want to change it again.
[12:21] <sky100> even i find that audio  is working ..
[12:21] <lordievader> chachan: There is a pulse equalizer... You have to do some hacking since it is not available for 12.04. I'll get a link.
[12:21]  * Wizard returns to coding.
[12:21] <Wizard> BBL.
[12:22] <lordievader>  chachan http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/system-wide-pulseaudio-equalizer.html
[12:22] <sky100> did not have to do any thing to get sound working
[12:22] <chachan> lordievader, thanks!
[12:22] <sky100> alsamixer...
[12:22] <BluesKaj> chachan, the alsa eq ?
[12:22] <lordievader> chachan: If you run into problem let me know.
[12:23] <Wizard> Nah.
[12:23] <chachan> BluesKaj, I tried to set the amarok eq, but it said that my backend doesn't have that feature or so
[12:23] <sky100> have to configure my xchat client  alot afterwards
[12:23] <Wizard> Coding's boring.
[12:23] <chachan> lordievader, for sure
[12:24] <Wizard> sky100: Usually drivers come with kernel and most devices should work out of the box.
[12:24] <chachan> lordievader, is pulseaudio-equalizer and GUI app?, gtk-based or some non-KDE stlye?
[12:24] <Wizard> sky100: If the don't, it means either device is not supported at all, or serious hacks has to be made.
[12:25] <BluesKaj> chachan, well either use the alasa equalizer orthe pulseaudio , but Ialways had good luck with the alsa-eq  ...it's your call
[12:25] <lordievader> chachan: I think it is gtk but it looks allright here.
[12:25] <chachan> lordievader, ok let me check
[12:25] <lordievader> BluesKaj: I've allways had good experience with pulse eq
[12:26] <sky100> Wizard, : xchat is fine so far ..
[12:26] <Wizard> Personally I prefer konversation, but xchat's OK.
[12:26] <Wizard> :)
[12:26] <Wizard> sky100: For how long have you been using Linux?
[12:26] <sky100> but i need to configure like posting audio player infos, system infos, etc
[12:27] <sky100> hmm for abt 2 months or so ...
[12:27] <sky100> then i had some probs last wekk itself .. & had to reinstall it
[12:27] <BluesKaj> lordievader, Ididn't use pulse back then , only started using pulse for webaudio since I installed a pci soundcard
[12:27] <Wizard> Ah, that kind of cra^H^H^Hstuff.
[12:27] <sky100> 12.04
[12:27] <sky100>  i was using 11.10 earlier
[12:28] <Wizard> Linux is like love, after 2-3 months you get bored or you know that's it! ;P
[12:29] <Tm_T> Wizard: that's not love
[12:29] <sky100> im not bored at all .. Wizard
[12:29] <Wizard> :)
[12:29] <Wizard> Tm_T: than what if not love?
[12:29] <sky100> im all eager to get into it in a deeper way
[12:30] <Wizard> Eh, just like me, when I was younger.
[12:31] <Wizard> Nah, "those were the days of good hunting and good sleeping".
[12:31] <Tm_T> Wizard: love is what is left after that first month's infatuation
[12:31] <sky100> ok guys .. gotta go for now ..
[12:32] <sky100> ty you all
[12:32] <Wizard> See you.
[12:32] <sky100> cya soon
[12:32] <sky100> :)
[12:32] <lordievader> cya
[12:32] <Wizard> Tm_T: I guess we could move it to offtopic channel ;]
[12:32] <Tm_T> indee
[12:32] <Tm_T> d
[12:32] <Wizard> But yes, I agree.
[12:32] <Wizard> That's what I meant.
[12:40] <oneadvent> hello I would like to make an icon that runs this command: echo 0 | sudo tee /proc/sys/kernel/yama/ptrace_scope && wine /home/oneadvent/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/Diablo\ III/Diablo\ III.exe
[12:40] <oneadvent> how can i do that? like what would run in the execution line?
[12:40] <Pici> oneadvent: throw that into a script and then run the script
[12:41] <Pici> Although, needing sudo access for that would be aproblem.
[12:41] <oneadvent> Pici: I did that: http://paste2.org/p/2026191
[12:41] <lordievader> Make it kdesudo, it'll give a gui asking for the password
[12:41] <oneadvent> ahh kdesudo, lemme try that.
[12:41] <lordievader> gksudo = gnome
[12:42] <lordievader> Be sure to put the command you want sudoed in ""
[12:42] <oneadvent> yea i tried that lol, been a while since i needed that command
[12:42] <oneadvent> hmmm ok
[12:43] <oneadvent> yea i dont think it is running still...no output on terminal and no program popping up. It does ask for the password now
[12:43] <Pici> Does D3 even work under Wine? or are you trying to debug it?
[12:43] <oneadvent> oh it works fine
[12:44] <Pici> Neat1
[12:44] <oneadvent> someone set up a ppa that is easy for people BUT it still has to have that tee command
[12:44] <oneadvent> so i was trying to automate it so my kid can play (i can give him the password)
[12:45] <oneadvent> hmm the quotations make it run if I ctrl-c after i put the "wine" line on a second line instead of &&
[12:53] <andres___> hola
[12:53] <Husar> Hi, how to get volume conmore sensibility? It this moment, volume have 20 scroll points, how to get 50 - for example?
[12:58] <oneadvent> for anyone following: I changed the line to 'kdesudo "echo 0 > /the/file/path"' and it works fine
[12:59] <oneadvent> need to really find a way to give my user permission to write to that file anyway then it would be 1 step better
[12:59] <BluesKaj> Husar, open alsamixer in the terminal
[12:59] <BluesKaj> make sure the Master, PCM,
[12:59] <BluesKaj>  Line & CD are all unmuted ,by using the "M" key'
[12:59] <BluesKaj>  then turn those controls up to the max.
[12:59] <Husar> thx, will try
[13:00] <lordievader> oneadvent: What file does the user need acces to?
[13:06] <Husar> BluesKaj: this do not help me, in console i can increase volume with 1 point, but if scroling volume slider, 1 point = 5 point in console
[13:08] <Husar> i want to scroon 1 pint on mouse wheel, and get 1 pont on console, not 5
[13:08] <lordievader> Isn't there some alsa volume command you can bind to a key or something?
[13:10] <BluesKaj> Husar, sorry I don't understand . alsmixer is in the konsole , use your speaker volume ctrl to turn the volume down if alsamixer is turned up too far
[13:16] <JuJuBee> Is it possible to lock the desktop background and prevent users from changing it?
[13:18] <simon___> i'm sure there would be, im knew to kubuntu too though so not sure :(
[13:18] <Wizard> Probably yes, but I've never did it. Try googling for KDE kiosk mode :]
[13:26] <JuJuBee> Kiosktool does not work with KDE4 according to google searching
[13:34] <drachen1000> Hi
[13:34] <azhoral> hi
[13:46] <aboudreault> Hi
[13:46] <aboudreault> I'm using Kubuntu oneiric since a while.... and at least 2 times per weak.  The GUI totally crash
[13:47] <aboudreault> *week*
[13:47] <aboudreault> like to color of the main menus are glicthing with lines and then I lose all KWIN and border then keyboard is dead.
[13:47] <aboudreault> are you aware of that/
[13:48] <BluesKaj> aboudreault, you might have an intermittent hardware problem
[13:48] <aboudreault> :(
[13:49] <BluesKaj> aboudreault, have you upgraded KDE to 4.8.2?
[13:50] <aboudreault> yes, using 4.8.2
[13:50] <aboudreault> from the ppa
[13:51] <BluesKaj> ok , have you updated/upgraded/dist-upgraded since ?
[13:51] <aboudreault> only upgraded.
[13:51] <aboudreault> still using oneiric
[13:51] <aboudreault> not precise.
[13:52] <BluesKaj> yes , dist-upgrade , only upgrades kde packages not the OS
[13:53] <BluesKaj> do-release-upgrade , upgrades onieric to precise
[13:53] <aboudreault> I'm afraid of that ;)
[13:54] <BluesKaj> just showing you the difference between the commands
[13:54] <aboudreault> yeah
[13:55] <aboudreault> BluesKaj, a dist-upgrade tells me: 11 upgraded, 6 newly installed
[13:55] <aboudreault> so I'm up-to-date
[13:55] <aboudreault> (talking oneiric)
[13:56] <aboudreault> ah, I see xserver-xorg-video-intel can be upgraded.
[13:56] <BluesKaj> aboudreault, have you checked the logs for errors when the desktop/kwin crashes ?
[13:57] <BluesKaj> ahh, graphics driver needs updating
[13:57] <aboudreault> in xorg.log
[13:58] <aboudreault> damn... [ 81475.564] (WW) intel(0): intel_uxa_prepare_access: bo map failed: Cannot allocate memory
[13:58] <aboudreault> that's strange...
[13:59] <BluesKaj> Xorg.0.log
[13:59] <aboudreault> yes, that where I've found that
[14:02] <aboudreault> BluesKaj, launchpad say: status: 	Confirmed → Fix Released
[14:02] <aboudreault> so will reboot and try that driver.
[14:03] <aboudreault> BluesKaj, thanks for pointed me that
[14:03] <BluesKaj> aboudreault, good luck :)
[14:03] <oneadvent> sorry lordievader i missed your comment. the user needs access to /proc/sys/kernel/yama/ptrace_scope
[14:03] <oneadvent> need write access
[14:05] <aboudreault> BluesKaj, hey, quick question. I'm using intel driver... and there is no xorg.conf. How can I get something generated with my current setup?
[14:06] <oneadvent> and lordievader I used this guide: http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=65326.0 and so it shoudl not need that line at all now :)
[14:06] <BluesKaj> aboudreault, sudo Xorg -configure
[14:07] <aboudreault> BluesKaj, can't run that if my server is already running
[14:07] <aboudreault> fatal: Server is already active for display 0
[14:08] <BluesKaj> abou yeah you need to drop to a TTY and stop kdem then run the command then startx
[14:09] <BluesKaj> aboudreault,^
[14:09] <BluesKaj> stop kdm
[14:09] <aboudreault> BluesKaj, alright.
[14:10] <BluesKaj> aboudreault, sudo service kdm stop
[14:10] <BluesKaj> drop to a TTY , ctl+alt+F1 or F2 , usually
[14:11] <aboudreault> yes
[14:11] <BluesKaj> ok
[15:15] <lorddelta> Hi. I've been having problems with my sound, with pulseaudio. Currently, its working, however it keeps on dying. Thankfully, I know why, and I know how to temporarily fix it...I might be able to dig around in the documentation before someone answers, but there's an issue with my speech dispatcher running pulseaudio, meaning I can't access my sound hardware or play anything. Its obviously a rights issue, and the guy in the pulseaudio chat was t
[15:55] <Oxymoron> Hi, I am basicly using this code in a network game: http://pastebin.com/QfcCALhx. For one strange reason, it works on Windows and other linux computers ... So its problem on my computer. I wondering, I get error "connect() failed (in trying to find out client ip): Permission denied". What could cause that in Kubuntu?
[16:02] <L3top> Oxymoron: have you looked at iptables? It is hard to tell from just what is there what is going on... but my blind guess would be firewall related
[16:03] <Oxymoron> L3top: Could it be because I use ports around 1000 that my firewall blocks? How to check? I havent done anything with my firewall in Linux before
[16:04] <L3top> !iptables
[16:07] <Oxymoron> L3top: How do I check ips and ports and if I can use them then?
[16:08] <chachan> Oxymoron, netstat -patun | egrep ":80" # < Checks ports 80
[16:08] <Oxymoron> L3top: Seems like my firewall ufw isnt even enabled ...?
[16:10] <chachan> Oxymoron, you might want to sudo it to get processes non-owned by the current user
[16:10] <Oxymoron> chachan: Yes, but how to check if ports 1026-1200 is available in UDP? Thats random ports I use on my client to test game.
[16:10] <chachan> Oxymoron, hold on
[16:11] <Oxymoron> I wonder if it could be another problem as I am the ONLY one in my project that cannot run the game ... even Windows works xD
[16:14] <Oxymoron> I just want one IP, for instance loopback adress 127.0.0.1 on my computer to allow all UDP connections on port 1026-1200
[16:14] <lorddelta> ...how long should I wait before reposting in this channel?
[16:15] <Oxymoron> chachan: ok :)
[16:16] <lorddelta> There should be a guideline in the irc guidelines on the exact number...
[16:19] <chachan> Oxymoron, sudo netstat -patun | egrep "udp" | egrep "127.0.0.1"
[16:19] <chachan> Oxymoron, this is not the ideal since is not filtering by ports
[16:20] <chachan> but filtering by ports looks that need more testing based on my low experience with regex
[16:20] <chachan> but this is the guide http://www.regular-expressions.info/numericranges.html
[16:20] <chachan> enjoy :)
[16:21] <Oxymoron> chachan: That gives me UDP connections established only.
[16:21] <Oxymoron> I just want to solve my problem.
[16:21] <Oxymoron> Not introduce more problems, like learn how to use netstat.
[16:22] <chachan> Hm, sorry for causing you problem while I'm trying to help you. My bad
[16:22] <chachan> Oxymoron, then you might want to use this: google.com
[16:22] <L3top> Oxymoron: take a look at guarddog.
[16:23] <L3top> !info guarddog | Oxymoron
[16:23] <L3top> doh
[16:23] <L3top> one second
[16:23] <Oxymoron> chachan: Yes I looked on google already, but I cannot find any solution on my problem.
[16:23] <Oxymoron> Thats why I ask here.
[16:23] <chachan> also my bad
[16:24] <L3top> Are you on 1204 Oxymoron?
[16:24] <Oxymoron> chachan: I want to just solve my problem, to run the game. So each client can get its own IP-adress.
[16:24] <Oxymoron> L3top: 1204?
[16:25] <L3top> yes... what release of kubuntu are you on
[16:25] <L3top> lsb_release -sc
[16:26] <panne> Oxymoron: add "l" for listening ports to netstat options, so you'll see not only established connections
[16:26] <panne> ...but also listening ports ;)
[16:27] <Oxymoron> L3top: precise version release
[16:27] <Oxymoron> panne: How? :)
[16:27] <Oxymoron> Possible to check some kind of log on my system?
[16:29] <Oxymoron> I get error: "connect(7, {sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(1025), sin_addr=inet_addr("255.255.255.255")}, 16) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)" when debugging it on C.
[16:29] <panne> [18:19] <chachan> Oxymoron, sudo netstat -patun*l* | egrep "udp" | egrep "127.0.0.1"  # without Asterisks, of course
[16:30] <Oxymoron> panne: What insteead of * ?
[16:30] <Fleg_> Hi All! After upgrading from 11.10 to 12.04 I have stuck packages: ia32-libs-multiarch. Is it normal?
[16:31] <panne> only add the l: [...] netstat -patunl [...]
[16:32] <Oxymoron> panne: 1 or | ?
[16:32] <BluesKaj> Fleg_, have you finished upgrading and are running the OS ?
[16:33] <Oxymoron> panne: Does not help at all.
[16:34] <Fleg_> BluesKaj: The upgrade was successful (except of not installed grub). After booting from live cd and reinstalling the grub the system boots normally and is running ok.
[16:35] <panne> Oxymoron: well, I think it should (only) help with this question: [18:10] <Oxymoron> chachan: Yes, but how to check if ports 1026-1200 is available in UDP?
[16:35] <Fleg_> BluesKaj: but aptitude is showing packages to update: ia32-libs-multiarch. But a lot of packages are depending on it.
[16:36] <Oxymoron> panne: Well it does not help my problem. I guess the ports are available. I freaking hate IRC get me into sidetracks debugging things I do not need to do, to make it work. I just want the magic line to paste into my terminal that solves my problem ... xD
[16:36] <Fleg_> BluesKaj: I'm not really familiar with debian package manager. On gentoo it's lot easier to solve. Just rebuild the whole dependent packages.
[16:36] <BluesKaj> Fleg_, ok , run sudo dpkg --configure -a , that should help either install or remove the broken ones
[16:36] <panne> Oxymoron: it's to show the *L*istening ports... so it's a little L...
[16:37] <panne> Oxymoron: wishing u luck... ^^
[16:37] <chachan> I've seen magic tricks but none of them retrieve udp ports :p
[16:38] <BluesKaj> Fleg_, if you get errors , sudo apt-get -f install
[16:38] <Fleg_> BluesKaj: dpkg --configure -a does no output.
[16:38] <BluesKaj> ok , no errors
[16:38] <BluesKaj> try updating/upgrading again
[16:39] <BluesKaj> Fleg_,^
[16:39] <Fleg_> BluesKaj: what do you mean updating again? aptitude update && aptitude upgrade?
[16:39] <BluesKaj> Fleg_,yes
[16:40] <L3top> Unfortunately I am not finding a frontend point and click package for precise Oxymoron.
[16:40] <Fleg_> BluesKaj: Unable to resolve dependencies for the upgrade: no solution found.
[16:41] <Fleg_> BluesKaj: I can send an output of --full-resolver
[16:42] <BluesKaj> Fleg_, sudo dpkg --clear-avail
[16:43] <Fleg_> BluesKaj: no effect.
[16:43] <BluesKaj> upgrade ?
[16:44] <Oxymoron> L3top: :( So freaking annoying is this. It blocks me from programming the game. Kubuntu sucks.
[16:44] <Fleg_> dpkg --clear-avail
[16:45] <L3top> and you make it so much fun to try and help you.
[16:46] <BluesKaj> Oxymoron, you have a habit of getting into jams without researching and then asking ppl to bail you out ..unfortunately you're not alone :(
[16:46] <L3top> "I want it secure, to not get hacked, I don't want viruses, and I don't want to have any idea how any of that works, I just want it to magically know what traffic is good or bad".
[16:47] <Oxymoron> L3top: Sorry, but its so frustrating and weyre not getting anywhere to get the actual problem.
[16:48] <L3top> That is because <Oxymoron> I just want to solve my problem. <Oxymoron> Not introduce more problems, like learn how to use netstat.
[16:48] <L3top> You dont want to fix your problem, you want the problem not to exist, and do not seem to understand why it does... therefor "kubuntu sucks"
[16:49] <Oxymoron> BluesKaj: I am ALWAYS researching. But forums, google etc is very bad at getting some useful problem cases that looks like mine. Usually it ends with I kill Google and browser because it cannot help me anyway. Then I get into IRC and get more and more mad, the more people point me in wrong direction. In the end I just hink computers sucs xD
[16:49] <BluesKaj> Fleg_, results?
[16:50] <Oxymoron> L3top: Yes, the problem SHOULDNT exist thats my point :D I do not want to fix a problem someone else caused or because something has bad logics.
[16:50] <BluesKaj> I have to go in a few mins ...lots of yardwork to do today ....bbl
[16:50] <lorddelta> (repost) Hi. I've been having problems with my sound, with pulseaudio. Currently, its working, however it keeps on dying. Thankfully, I know why, and I know how to temporarily fix it...I might be able to dig around in the documentation before someone answers, but there's an issue with my speech dispatcher running pulseaudio, meaning I can't access my sound hardware or play anything. Its obviously a rights issue, and the guy in the pulseaudio c
[16:50] <Fleg_> BluesKaj: I'm about to post an output of aptitude -s -y --full-resolver upgrade
[16:50] <L3top> Perhaps I am venting on you unfairly... and if so I apologize. I have poured thousands of hours into a project and about 15 minutes ago was told the project sucks because a piece of hardware did not work out of the box on a pre-alpha experimental install... so your attitude reminds me quite a bit of that.
[16:50] <Fleg_> BluesKaj: http://paste.ubuntu.com/992673/
[16:51] <BluesKaj> fleg use apt-get , aptitude is no longer supported afaik
[16:51] <L3top> Oxymoron: it is not bad logic. Non standard ports are blocked by default.
[16:51] <L3top> It is very much on purpose.
[16:51] <Oxymoron> L3top: Well everything is done locally on my own computer, so nothing should be blocked.
[16:52] <L3top> Does this local network connect to the internet?
[16:52] <Oxymoron> L3top: Anyway, how to make all ports nonblocked temporarly in Kubuntu then? I dont care for the moment if its a seructiy risk, I just wnat the problem out of my way.
[16:52] <L3top> because network traffic is network traffic.
[16:52] <L3top> So it absolutely should be blocked.
[16:52] <Oxymoron> L3top: Yes my local network have internet connection.
[16:52] <BluesKaj> Fleg_, using aptitude may be what's causing the problem , it no longer resolves dependencies as well as apt-get
[16:53] <Oxymoron> L3top: But internal network traffic on my own freaking computer, not between any other computers should work, right?
[16:54] <Oxymoron> L3top: I connect clients that is on my ownn computer to a server which is on the same computer and both clients and server uses same ip, ie 127.0.0.1. Then server and clients use port 1025 to listen. This havent been any problem earlier and I hell do not understand why it should now.
[16:54] <L3top> What is the server address
[16:54] <Oxymoron> So no traffic gets out of my own computer, its sent back and forth locally.
[16:54] <Fleg_> BluesKaj: here is the output of apt-get upgrade. http://paste.ubuntu.com/992680/
[16:54] <L3top> I dont need the exact address
[16:55] <Oxymoron> L3top: Server adress is also 127.0.0.1. I am using loopback.
[16:55] <BluesKaj> Fleg_, ok run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:55] <L3top> all addresses are 127.0.0.1?
[16:55] <Fleg_> BluesKaj: looks good.
[16:56] <L3top> That makes no sense.
[16:57] <Fleg_> BluesKaj: I'll do the upgrade and see how it goes. But it looks good.
[16:57] <Oxymoron> L3top: Well yes, because its tested in loopback. Oh crap, it does not have to make sense. It is for test purpose ONLY. It will not work like that in the end, when using the server. Then we will use differerently ips and ports.
[16:57] <BluesKaj> Fleg_, yeah , best to aptitude now , unfortunately .... I used it for many yrs , but since 11.04 apt-get has been upgraded to surpass do abetter job with dpkg than aptituide
[16:57] <BluesKaj> drop aptitude , Fleg_
[16:58] <BluesKaj> ok , gotta go ...
[16:59] <Fleg_> BluesKaj: thanks for help.
[16:59] <Oxymoron> L3top: Just need test case to be able to try my game each time I reprogrammed it, so I can see my changes if they work.
[16:59] <Fleg_> BluesKaj: I will remove aptitude not to be confused.
[17:01] <chachan> since when testing ports with netstat is a wrong direction? heh
[17:02] <BluesKaj> Fleg_, YW
[17:04] <Oxymoron> chachan: Because it does not help me in this case as it seems the ports are available. So theres not the problem.
[17:05] <Oxymoron> is there any ports Kubuntu use that should work?
[17:05] <chachan> Oxymoron, if there are available through 127.0.0.1, then you won't be able to connect from an external host
[17:06] <Oxymoron> chachan: i shall not connect from external host ...
[17:08] <chachan> hm, you are watching ports available but you're unable to connect, is that right?
[17:09] <Oxymoron> chachan: I am unable to connect to loopback adress locally on my own computer. I do not use any external traffic or so whatever.
[17:10] <Oxymoron> The problem seems not to be the ports.
[17:10] <Oxymoron> Tried port 45000+ for the computer, which should be free ports. Not that either works.
[17:11] <chachan> Oxymoron, I see, try making a telnet test: telnet 127.0.0.1 5000 # 5000 for instance
[17:11] <Oxymoron> chachan: I get: "telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused"
[17:12] <chachan> ok, through netstat check the state of that port
[17:14] <Oxymoron> chachan: Seems to be avilable
[17:14] <chachan> is it *listening*?
[17:16] <Oxymoron> chachan: nope
[17:16] <chachan> which state?
[17:18] <Oxymoron> no state?
[17:18] <Oxymoron> Cannot even find the state of that port?
[17:19] <chachan> the commnad I sent you before, the one you said it but useless, remember?
[17:19] <chachan> it was*
[17:21] <Oxymoron> chachan: I am using: "sudo netstat -patun | egrep ":5000" and it gives me nothing in return.
[17:21] <chachan> 5000 was for instance...
[17:21] <chachan> I wrote that
[17:22] <chachan> change it for a port useful for you
[17:22] <JuJuBee> Is it possible to lock down a desktop so the user cannot change the background or desktop icons/widgets
[17:22] <Oxymoron> chachan: Tried different ports, same result everytime. netstat gives me blank, no result at all.
[17:22] <Oxymoron> command succeed, but not otput
[17:22] <chachan> Oxymoron, then there's not port running
[17:23] <chachan> Oxymoron, therefore your application is not doing what you're expecting
[17:24] <Oxymoron> chachan: Which mean?
[17:24] <Oxymoron> How to make the port "running"?
[17:24] <chachan> the application must do that
[17:25] <chachan> and there is, magic!
[17:25] <chachan> Oxymoron, makes sense?
[17:26] <chachan> does the application has a log or something you can check?
[17:26] <chachan> have*
[17:26] <Oxymoron> chachan: Well thats why I use connect(sock_fd, (struct sockaddr *)&server, sizeof(server) in my application?
[17:27] <chachan> so you're the developer behind this
[17:27] <chachan> Oxymoron, I guess that's on the client
[17:29] <Oxymoron> chachan: yes, or well both no and yes. I havent design the network protocol on the client side. I know how it works though. The strange thing is that it works no another Linux PC and even on Windows, exaclty the same code.
[17:29] <Oxymoron> *on
[17:30]  * Wizard is back
[17:30] <Oxymoron> So it tries to start connection on the port, but it fails. Even telnet 127.0.0.1 PORT fails.
[17:30] <Oxymoron> PORT = 1025 in my case.
[17:31] <BluesKaj> Oxymoron, does your router have application/port support thru the router FW ?
[17:32] <BluesKaj> tcp/udp
[17:32] <Oxymoron> BluesKaj: it shouldnt make any difference anyway, as I do not send anything to router anyway.
[17:32] <Oxymoron> BluesKaj: But yes it has support for that.
[17:33] <BluesKaj> are the other pcs  on your lan connected to the same router ?
[17:33] <Oxymoron> Could it be soemthing in my /etc/hosts file?
[17:33] <Oxymoron> BluesKaj: Doesnt matter, because I am only connect to myself on loopback adress 127.0.0.1.
[17:34] <BluesKaj> normally 2 pcs shouldn't be using 127.0.0.1
[17:35] <Oxymoron> BluesKaj: I know, but it doesnt matter in this case
[17:35] <BluesKaj> how do you know ?
[17:35] <Oxymoron> I use 127.0.0.1 locally on my own computer for both client and server application.
[17:35] <obelus> ...what. It's loopback, the problem is obviously not the network.
[17:35] <Oxymoron> BluesKaj: Because I am only use one PC in this case.
[17:35] <Oxymoron> obelus: I know ...
[17:36] <obelus> Oxymoron: I can see you do, it's the paths BluesKaj is trying to follow that's got me confused
[17:36] <Oxymoron> Works to use telnet localhost 80 but not telnet localhost 25 for instance.
[17:37] <obelus> Do you have an SMTP daemon running?
[17:37] <Oxymoron> obelus: For some reason it seems all my ports are blocked on UDP.
[17:37] <Oxymoron> obelus: No SMTP
[17:37] <obelus> Then.. why would you connect to localhost/25? anyway. Do you have a firewall running that might be blocking your ports?
[17:38] <lordievader> Good evening
[17:39] <Oxymoron> obelus: Just to test
[17:39] <Oxymoron> obelus: No firewall running it seems.
[17:39] <Oxymoron> obelus: Tried to start server, which listen on port 1025 on localhost, then try to make telnet localhost 1025. Doesnt work.
[17:40] <obelus> Oxymoron: using `netstat -ln | grep 1025` does it show that it's listening?
[17:40] <chachan> Oxymoron, my two cents is that the application is not doing its job for some reason (let's call it a bug)
[17:41] <Oxymoron> obelus: I get: "udp        0      0 0.0.0.0:1025            0.0.0.0:*         " not sure if thats mean listeing?
[17:41] <obelus> Oxymoron: it is listening fine
[17:41] <Oxymoron> chachan: Yes, but question is where as it works on other computers?
[17:42] <obelus> Uh.. telnet is only TCP afaik though.
[17:42] <chachan> Oxymoron, that's why is a bug, it should tell you :)
[17:42] <obelus> Which would explain why it wont connect.
[17:42] <Wizard> What is the best method of sharing files between Kubuntu machines?
[17:42] <Oxymoron> obelus: How to test through UDP then?
[17:42] <Wizard> NFS?
[17:43] <chachan> obelus, right
[17:43] <obelus> Oxymoron: Use a client to connect is all I can suggest off the top of my head.
[17:43] <obelus> Oxymoron: Sorry, have never had to try to connect to a UDP port like that.
[17:43] <BluesKaj> Wizard, nfs is good , but ssh works well too
[17:44] <Wizard> Is it easy to integrate NFS with KDE?
[17:44] <Wizard> I mean, click to share, click to mount? :P
[17:45] <Oxymoron> obelus: I have a client that tries to connect to 1025 but fials.
[17:45] <Wizard> Actually, /etc/exports is acceptable, /etc/fstab - not.
[17:45] <chachan> obelus, the main point is that netstat doesn't throw the port, so it's not listen at all
[17:45] <obelus> Oxymoron: All I can suggest right now is to make your code print debug messages whenever a client tries to connect to see what's happening.
[17:46] <chachan> that's why is not a OS issue
[17:46] <obelus> It is listening, as shown by netstat -ln
[17:46] <obelus> I didn't think it was an OS issue, I'm still allowed to try to help, aren't I?
[17:46] <chachan> Oxymoron didn't say so
[17:47] <chachan> obelus, of course you are :)
[17:47] <obelus> Oxymoron posted the output of netstat -ln, which showed me that it was listening.
[17:47] <chachan> Oxymoron, hm, he told me something different, well in that case, yes, he must test that with the client
[17:48] <chachan> Oxymoron, you were saying that you haven't design the client so far, right?
[17:48] <BluesKaj> Wizard,you have to have a fstab entry for the export file on nfs
[17:48] <chachan> designed*
[17:49] <BluesKaj> er must have
[17:49] <Oxymoron> chachan: Well I design client code, but not network protocol.
[17:49] <chachan> ok, I guess it doesn't work
[17:51] <Oxymoron> obelus: I try todo strace -f ./client but I do not get any useful info, just that connect() fails ...
[17:53] <obelus> Oxymoron: I'd put mroe debug checks in the client to see what's happening, in its actual code
[17:54] <obelus> Oxymoron: But I have to go to sleep for now or I won't have any for tomorrow =p, if you need any more help on this, I'd suggest ##programming. Anyway, night. Feel free to message me tomorrow if you want.
[17:55] <Oxymoron> obelus: Hmm it is not my fault. But the problem was that I needed to press enter and then escpae in a input field where I entred Ip adress. So the ip adress was not used at all by client, tried to connect to some random ip :D
[17:56] <obelus> So it works now then?
[18:03] <Oxymoron> obelus: yes. So nothing wrong with netwovrk or client. Problem is the retarded C cannot handle strings porperly, OpenGL and SDL have no support for input fields ...
[18:03] <Oxymoron> In some mysterious way I had to press enter before the ip adress was sent to client from the graphics ...
[18:03] <obelus> Righteo. Sleepy time for me.
[18:16] <Wizard> BluesKaj: fish:// works ok :)
[18:16]  * Wizard dream about dolphin/avahi/nfs integration
[18:16] <Wizard> *That* would be great.
[18:17] <L3top> So whose fault is it Oxymoron?
[18:19] <Oxymoron> L3top: The guy in my project group that programmed the graphic menu ...
[18:19] <Oxymoron> which is NOT me.
[18:19] <BluesKaj> fish is alright ..prefer ssh , altho I did use nfs to share files to a client pc which died recently ..mobo went kaput :(
[18:19] <L3top> But I thought it worked in windows?
[18:20] <L3top> and kubuntu sucked... and was buggy... et al.
[18:21] <lordievader> I like nfs's speed :)
[18:21] <BluesKaj> nfs is basically a mounted drive . so it's fast
[18:22] <lordievader> Jup :D
[18:23] <Wizard> L3top: What? :P
[18:23] <Wizard> I agree Kubuntu sucks and it's buggy, but this is one of the best operating systems available on the market.
[18:24] <Wizard> BluesKaj: Until "stale NFS lock", it's ok.
[18:24] <Wizard> After, it'sa nightmare.
 L3top: :( So freaking annoying is this. It blocks me from programming the game. Kubuntu sucks.
[18:24] <L3top> = PEBKAC
[18:25] <Wizard> Pebkac is a really important program, mostly caused by:
[18:25] <Wizard> 1. There is *no* good documentation, Kubuntu help is terrible.
[18:25] <Oxymoron> L3top: Well sorry, Kubuntu does not sucks but I am irritated :P Either it is Linux or Windows that does not work with our project, no matter if SDL, OpenGL, string handling, network handling etc.
[18:25] <Wizard> 2. Even if there was, nobody would read it.
[18:26] <Wizard> s/program/problem/
[18:26] <Oxymoron> L3top: Well I would say rather that my group didnt tell me you need to press enter to make string data valid. If you do not, the end of string is not added. In other words C string handling sucks.
[18:28] <Wizard> In your app?
[18:28] <L3top> That was all Oxymoron. Just a small mea culpa is nice when you pour your life into something, and it gets blamed for someone elses... issue.
[18:28] <Wizard> Oxymoron: Do you port app from Windows to Linux?
[18:28] <BluesKaj> Oxymoron, I was advised yrs ago even when making entries into fsatb to use the enter key after completing a line , or the the entry doesn't stick.
[18:29] <Wizard> Mount warns if there is no newline after last line.
[18:29] <BluesKaj> err fstab
[18:29] <Wizard> I bet some filesystems still cause problem with this ;P
[18:30] <Oxymoron> Wizard: Not really, the app is platform independent.
[18:30] <Wizard> :)
[18:30] <Wizard> And you're Swedish?
[18:30] <BluesKaj> Wizard, are you using defaults or user, auto ?
[18:30] <Oxymoron> BluesKaj: Well I stand corrected :P Really sucks.
[18:30] <Oxymoron> Wizard: Yes I am swedish
[18:30] <Wizard> Currently fish is OK, BluesKaj.
[18:31] <Wizard> Oxymoron: May I PM you?
[18:32]  * BluesKaj is Finland-Svensk originally , but now a Canadian
[18:32] <Oxymoron> Wizard: Sure
[18:50] <raymears> hi everyone. quick question for you: has anybody been experiencing any issues with gwenview? i for one am unable to view regular jpegs (from my point and shoot camera) every once in a while. a restart of kde solves the issue...
[18:50] <raymears> using kubuntu 12.04
[18:50] <Brustofski-Fan> what are the names of some of the kde task manager replacements
[18:50] <raymears> any idea what service i need to restart in order to avoid a kde restart?
[18:51] <lordievader> raymears: Try running gwenview through the terminal to see if it points you to some errors when it happens again.
[18:53] <raymears> lordievader: oh. good idea. thanks.
[18:54] <raymears> i get a bunch of : Warning: "" failed to compile! lines every time i try to open an image
[18:56] <lordievader> raymears: I don't get such errors. Google it, perhaps others before you have had the problem and, hopefully, fixed it.
[18:57] <Brustofski-Fan> what are the names of alternative task managers for kde ??
[18:59] <raymears> lordievader: thanks. i really can't seem to brain today :) found something. it is related to the gpu shaders.
[19:00] <raymears> some new nvidia drivers got pushed out recently and i installed them today but haven't restared the machine. i suppose it's that.
[19:06] <raymears> disabling opengl in gwenview from the settings dialogue solves the issue. there. done. thanks for the support!
[19:09] <BluesKaj> raymears, you may want to switvk back to openGL once you reboot
[19:10] <raymears> the transitions are just as smooth using software rendering
[19:11] <raymears> as far as i can tell.
[19:21] <graft> yo is there any way to get krunner to autocomplete file entries?
[19:41] <cancer> where to download the right version of macchanger for kubuntu 11.10
[19:42] <cancer> Wizard: Hey
[19:43] <cancer> ubottu: where to download the right version of macchanger for kubuntu 11.10
[19:44] <cancer> ubottu | macchanger
[19:44] <cancer> anyone there?
[19:45] <L3top> !info macchanger oneiric
[19:45] <L3top> apt-get install macchanger
[19:45] <L3top> sudo apt-get install macchanger           sorry
[19:46] <cancer> l3top: i cannot download from kubuntu. i mush download it from the current os 'xp'
[19:46] <cancer> letop: i need a location of download.
[19:46] <L3top> why?
[19:47] <L3top> Just curious
[19:47] <L3top> do you have a kubuntu machine around?
[19:49] <cancer> l3top: i have installed kubuntu in same machine. i have two wireless adapters (usb and card). i was using usb and still have it. but just brought the card and want to use net on kubuntu. but can't do without changing mac. i do have and alternate and that's sure to switch to usb adapter.
[19:49] <cancer> l3top: but i want to use this card.
[19:49] <L3top> i386 = http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/i386/macchanger/download     64= http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/amd64/macchanger/download
[19:49] <saheb37> how do i use reliance netconnect+ with ubuntu 12.04?
[19:50] <cancer> l3top: how to differentiate i386/64?
[19:51] <cancer> l3top: have installed kubuntu from this 'kubuntu-11.10-desktop-i386.iso'.
[19:51] <Guest61926> is this place where you can ask things about ubunutu 12.04 64bita?
[19:51] <cancer> l3top: i386 will work, right?
[19:51] <L3top> yes...
[19:52] <Ab3L> good night
[19:52] <L3top> !ask
[19:53] <cancer> l3top: will 'gdebi-kde' will help me to install the downloaded package.
[19:54] <Guest61926> i have a acer aspire 5336 laptop. i have 2 problems.. mainly i dont have any addional drivers installed.. and my laptop is getting quite warm (80-90 degrees celcius) any fixes for that? i allready tried LMsensors btw
[19:54] <L3top> cancer: once you have the package, sudo dpkg -i <package-name>.deb
[19:54] <L3top> in the directory you place it IN kubuntu
[19:55] <cancer> l3top: thanks alot.. brb with kubuntu. :)
[19:56] <L3top> Guest3350: lspci -nn | grep VGA
[19:59] <Stroobach> i have a acer aspire 5336 laptop. i have 2 problems.. mainly i dont have any addional drivers installed.. and my laptop is getting quite warm (80-90 degrees celcius) any fixes for that? i allready tried LMsensors btw
[20:00] <L3top> Stroobach: lspci -nn | grep VGA
[20:00] <Stroobach> output nick@nick-Aspire-5336:~$ lspci -nn | grep VGA
[20:00] <Stroobach> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:2a42] (rev 07)
[20:01] <BluesKaj> Stroobach, you have no additonal drivers available?
[20:01] <L3top> Stroobach: sudo apt-get install i965-va-driver
[20:02] <L3top> reboot and check your temps.
[20:02] <Stroobach> i will
[20:02] <Stroobach> thc
[20:02] <Stroobach> thx*
[20:02] <Stroobach> brb
[20:02] <L3top> btw Stroobach, which desktop are you using?
[20:02] <Stroobach> ubuntu 12.04
[20:02] <Stroobach> 64bit
[20:03] <L3top> so Unity?
[20:03] <Stroobach> yeap ( have to say.. quite new to linux
[20:03] <L3top> Np... if it continues to give you grief, try KDE (kubuntu's front end)
[20:04] <Stroobach> i will come back to that in a sec. i will reboot
[20:04] <L3top> k
[20:05]  * L3top finds Unity makes quick fans of KDE
[20:08] <Stroobach> back again.  fan is speeding temp aroun 60-65 celsius
[20:08] <Stroobach> and lowering btw
[20:08] <Stroobach> thx alot
[20:10] <BluesKaj> Stroobach, if you intend to stay with unity/ubuntu then support for your desktop is best received at #ubuntu chat
[20:11] <Stroobach> i noticed that this is a kubuntu IRC so i will go to #ubuntu
[20:11] <Stroobach> again thx for fixing my temp :)
[20:12] <cancer> l3top: thanks. i'm done with it. will i need to reset real mac manually or it will be automatically reset after a machine reboot.
[20:13] <tanin> Really enjoy the switch from ubuntu to Kubuntu.  Sure I still have Ubuntu on asus, but on this machine it's holding it's own.
[20:13] <L3top> cancer: you could write a startup script or something I am sure... but can you explain your basic desire again...
[20:13] <L3top> np Stroobach
[20:15] <cancer> l3top: i want to know about the original mac. i have replaced it. so will it reset when i'll restart machine or i have to change it back manually.
[20:16] <cancer> blueskaj: do you have any idea where to get perfect solution for nvidia quadro?
[20:18] <BluesKaj> cancer, is that a new machine?
[20:18] <cancer> blueskaj: it's the same.
[20:18] <BluesKaj> yes , but how old ?
[20:19] <cancer> blueskaj: machine's not much old, but maybe graphic card 'nvidia quadro'.
[20:21] <cancer> l3top:?
[20:21] <L3top> cancer: what is the problem with your nvidia?
[20:22] <cancer> l3top: ah, can't get resolution after installing driver. i have tried recommended '173' and post update'173' yesterday.
[20:23] <L3top> lspci -nn | grep VGA
[20:24] <cancer> l3top: no result
[20:25] <L3top> then you mistyped
[20:25] <L3top> spelling counts :)
[20:25] <L3top> lspci -nn | grep -i vga
[20:25] <L3top> if you dont like caps
[20:26] <cancer> l3top: http://paste.kde.org/481112/
[20:28] <cancer> blueskaj: how to get machine specs? i have opened kinfo. but don't know how to get it as a text.
[20:29] <BluesKaj> sudo lshw
[20:30] <BluesKaj> cancer, copy and paste into the terminal , lspci -nn | grep VGA
[20:30] <L3top> Ok...
[20:30] <L3top> It definitely requires the nvidia-glx-173
[20:30] <L3top> BluesKaj: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: nVidia Corporation NV30GL [Quadro FX 1000] [10de:0309] (rev a2)
[20:31] <cancer> blueskaj: i did. here it come's again: http://paste.kde.org/481112/
[20:31] <BluesKaj> L3top, cancer we did try the 173 yesterday but his res canonly do 640x480 max
[20:31] <cancer> blueskaj: without '-i' it won't show anything. (Referrence; l3top) :D
[20:31] <L3top> apt-get install libgl1-mesa-glx libgl1-mesa-dri
[20:32] <L3top> cancer if you use caps it will
[20:32] <L3top> linux does EXACTLY what you tell it. You were looking for vga instead of VGA. -i tells grep to ignore case
[20:33] <L3top> cancer: a sudo belongs before that
[20:34] <L3top> cancer: sudo apt-get install libgl1-mesa-glx libgl1-mesa-dri; sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg; sudo apt-get -y install --reinstall xserver-xorg-core
[20:34] <L3top> assuming that you have nvidia-glx-175 already installed
[20:34] <cancer> l3top: do i have to first use this command 'apt-get install libgl1-mesa-glx libgl1-mesa-dri' and then the others. Will it bring black screen.
[20:34] <cancer> ?
[20:35] <L3top> cancer is nvidia-glx-175 currently installed?
[20:35] <cancer> blueskaj: 'kinfocenter' showing two processors 0 and 1. does this means my sistem is dualcore?
[20:36] <cancer> l3top: i have removed the drivers i installed yesterday.
[20:36] <L3top> ok...
[20:37] <L3top> to answer your other question, cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep cores
[20:37] <L3top> or just cat /proc/cpuinfo   for all sorts of processor details
[20:38] <cancer> l3top: how i'll know with that about 'dual core'?
[20:38] <L3top> cancer: we are going to want nvidia-glx-175 installed before running the long command, and that should be installed without x up
[20:38] <cancer> l3top: x up?
[20:38] <L3top> cancer: cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep model
[20:39] <L3top> or just, cat /porc/cpuinfo  and look at ALL detail about your processor
[20:39] <L3top> s/porc/proc/
[20:39] <cancer> l3top: just want to know http://paste.kde.org/481130/
[20:40] <L3top> X is the visual environment.... basically the same things you did yesterday to install 173... then run:  sudo apt-get install libgl1-mesa-glx libgl1-mesa-dri; sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg; sudo apt-get -y install --reinstall xserver-xorg-core
[20:40] <L3top> No cancer, you do not have a dual core
[20:40] <L3top> you have a hyperthreading p4
[20:41] <BluesKaj> cancer, yes dual core
[20:41] <Dan39> KKKKKKKKKKK UBUNTU!
[20:41] <BluesKaj> oh L3top ?
[20:41] <Dan39> hows everyone doing today
[20:41] <cancer> l3top: what if i didn't get back to the kubuntu after applying those commands?
[20:42] <L3top> er?
[20:42] <szal> Dan39: but no chit-chat here either, for that there's #kubuntu-offtopic
[20:42] <L3top> cancer: then you would uninstall nvidia-glx
[20:42] <L3top> 173*
[20:42] <Dan39> there is an offtopic for kubuntu o_O? couldnt just go into #ubuntu-offtopic? haha
[20:42] <szal> Dan39: of course you could
[20:42] <Dan39> but anyways... here problem guyss: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libx11/+bug/985202
[20:43] <Dan39> wondering if anybody has any updates/advice
[20:43] <cancer> l3top: sudo apt-get remove nvidia-glx?
[20:43] <L3top> sudo apt-get remove nvidia-glx-173
[20:43] <cancer> Ok
[20:44] <cancer> entering commands.
[20:44] <BluesKaj> L3top, he has to drop to the tty to remove the graphics driver , and stop kdm first
[20:44] <cancer> l3top | blueskaj: hyperthreading p4 / dual core :)?
[20:45] <BluesKaj> cancer did you run cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep cores ?
[20:45] <cancer> l3top: commands finished their work. so what know do i restart or need to know some commands for tty?
[20:46] <cancer> blueskaj: http://paste.kde.org/481136/
[20:46] <L3top> you would restart...
[20:47] <BluesKaj>  ok cancer, just one core then
[20:47] <L3top> hyperthreading single core
[20:47] <cancer> l3top: and what about that Kdm thing blues talking of.
[20:47] <BluesKaj> hyperblahblah
[20:47] <cancer> lol :)
[20:48] <L3top> lol
[20:48] <cancer> do i have to stop kdm first? how?
[20:48] <BluesKaj> kdm has to be stopped in order to install the driver anyway
[20:49] <cancer> WHAT, aren't those commands are to install drivers and i'm done with them.
[20:50] <cancer> Ok, i'm restarting machine, anything happen then i'll run this command 'sudo apt-get remove nvidia-glx-173. OK?
[20:52] <cancer> blueskaj: i have run those commands with no drivers installed. is that ok?
[20:52] <BluesKaj> cancer , drop to a virtual terminal by doing ctl+alt+f1 , then sudo service kdm stop , then , sudo apt-get remove nvidia-glx-173 , then sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-175 , then sudo nvidia-xconfig , then startx
[20:53] <cancer> blueskaj: what about these i have installed, 'sudo apt-get install libgl1-mesa-glx libgl1-mesa-dri; sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg; sudo apt-get -y install --reinstall xserver-xorg-core'
[20:55] <L3top> 175 BluesKaj?
[20:55] <L3top> " then sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-175"
[20:55] <BluesKaj> cancer , those aren't drivers they are libs required , I guess , L3top obviously has experience with this driver and trhe associated apps required by them
[20:55] <L3top> unfortunately :P
[20:56] <BluesKaj> L3top, I was assuming you meant the 175 driver has to be installed with those libs you posted
[20:57] <cancer> l3top | blueskaj: there are no drivers installed yet. which drivers i should install now?
[20:58] <L3top> BluesKaj: no, that mess just seems to make everything a lot happier. We do a media center in our project, and video autodetection/install has unfortunately fallen to me... so while I am not sure why that combination is magic in truth, it seems to do very well for everything requiring 173.
[20:58] <L3top> we deal only with LTS and what exists in those repos.
[20:58] <L3top> well... thats not completely true
[20:58] <L3top> but still
[20:58] <L3top> for that end
[20:58] <BluesKaj> L3top, ok ,so he doesn't need the 175 driver if he installs those libs
[20:58] <BluesKaj> ?
[20:59] <L3top> correct
[20:59] <L3top> sorry... I have to go afk for a min
[20:59] <L3top> kids
[21:00] <cancer> l3top: sure, tyt
[21:00] <cancer> blueskaj: so what i need to do is a machine restart or xserver?
[21:00] <JMichael|work> anyone know what ubuntu's repos are so slow right now?
[21:01] <JMichael|work> [correction] anyone know why ubuntu's repos are so slow right now?
[21:01] <BluesKaj> cancer , sorry for my misinterpretation , leave the 173 driver installed and follow L3top instruction above
[21:03] <BluesKaj> cancer, you ran these commands ?  sudo apt-get install libgl1-mesa-glx libgl1-mesa-dri; sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg; sudo apt-get -y install --reinstall xserver-xorg-core'
[21:03] <cancer> blueskaj: it's ok, yes. i did and there is no driver installed.
[21:04] <BluesKaj> JMichael|work, which server are you using , perhaps a different one will be faster
[21:05] <BluesKaj> cancer, is the 173 driver in kmenu>applications>system>additonal drivers?
[21:06] <JMichael|work> BluesKaj: i am referring to the PPAs in particular. they are all really slow, but for the regular repos i do use a local mirror that is much faster
[21:08] <cancer> blueskaj: http://imagebin.org/212773
[21:08] <JMichael|work> BluesKaj: i did a kubuntu installation on a netbook a few nights ago, and made the mistake of telling it to download updated packages during the installation. it wound of taking well over an hour... all due to the repos being so slow
[21:08] <BluesKaj> JMichael|work, well, ppas are being hammered i guess
[21:09] <JMichael|work> BluesKaj: like i said, it is not just the PPAs. it is all of the US ubuntu repo's as well. i was just curious whether anyone know whatthe issue might be.
[21:09] <maco> you tried all of them?
[21:09] <JMichael|work> it wound up*
[21:09] <BluesKaj> JMichael|work, slow during the install or slow later , probly would have taken long to update/upgrade after the install , anyway
[21:10] <maco> or just us.archive.ubuntu.com?
[21:10] <maco> there are 3 servers behind that one domain name iirc, but there are probably 50 public mirrors throughout the US
[21:10] <JMichael|work> BluesKaj: no, because after the installation a person can more easily switch mirrors
[21:10] <cancer> blueskaj: http://imagebin.org/212773
[21:11] <JMichael|work> maco: read what i said. i am talking about ubuntu's repos, and yes, i tried all of the us.archive.ubuntu.com repos....
[21:11] <BluesKaj> kmi yeah i used a fast server here in Cnada , but it was 2 weeks behind
[21:11] <BluesKaj> JMichael|work,^
[21:11] <BluesKaj> Canada , that is :)
[21:11] <JMichael|work> BluesKaj: yes. the US repos are having serious problems of some kind.
[21:11] <maco> JMichael|work: the ones that dont have ubuntu.com in their name are stil ubuntu repos
[21:12] <maco> there's a TON of them available from the dropdown in the configuration tool
[21:12] <maco> i'm not talking about manually editing config files to have some mirror you happen to know about in there
[21:12] <maco> all the hundred-ish ones in the dropdown ARE official repos
[21:12] <JMichael|work> maco: i refer to those as mirrors.... and if you know how to switch which mirror you are using during installation, i'd like to know
[21:13] <BluesKaj> I'm using waterloo university mirror in ontario that's relatively fast
[21:13] <JMichael|work> maco: i just specified us.archive.ubuntu.com and the PPAs... so you know which i mean
[21:13] <cancer> blueskaj: ? i have posted the link here it's again. http://imagebin.org/212773
[21:13] <maco> you should be able to change it in the package manager before you click the installation icon
[21:13] <JMichael|work> BluesKaj: i am using indiana univesity's repos, which are quite fast
[21:13] <maco> assuming you actually go to the desktop before starting your install
[21:13] <maco> (which is one of those things that if you care to change things, i figure youd do, and if you dont care to change things, you dont)
[21:14] <JMichael|work> maco: a person does not normally expect the default repos to be so slow
[21:14] <maco> a week after release they do
[21:14] <BluesKaj> cancer yes , use that driver
[21:14] <maco> day of release, it's worse
[21:14] <maco> day of release, i tend to be surprised if the ubuntu.com website is up
[21:15] <cancer> blueskaj: post release or Recommended?
[21:15] <maco> (it's also, of course, possible there's a bandwidth bottleneck somewhere on your end. i havent really noticed my updates being slow, for example, and i haven't changed from the default mirror)
[21:15] <JMichael|work> maco: i've used ubuntu for years, and have rarely seen the repos perform as slowly as right now.... and it is well more than a week after release
[21:16] <JMichael|work> maco: i don't think so. i can download an ubuntu ISO from IU bloomington in less that 40 seconds
[21:16] <BluesKaj> post-release , cancer ...remember the recommended one only gave you 640x480 resolution
[21:16] <cancer> blueskaj: i tried both yesterday and got same result.
[21:17] <maco> i'm getting 4MB/s when i try to install ubuntu-desktop
[21:17] <BluesKaj> well, the libs you installed may make the difference , cancer
[21:17] <JMichael|work> maco: from which repos?
[21:17] <maco>  http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[21:17] <cancer> blueskaj: so, i should go for post-release. ok
[21:18] <maco> (i ctrl+C'd it after checking the speed. bleh. who'd want unity?)
[21:18] <JMichael|work> maco: that is interesting.... i have NEVER seen such speed from those repos ever
[21:18] <maco> ive seen a bit faster before
[21:18] <maco> actually no...when ive seen faster it was from osuosl
[21:18] <JMichael|work> maco: that is really puzzling
[21:18] <maco> and i was at a university, so i got internet2 speeds
[21:19] <maco> but anyway, i am on a high bandwidth connection at work right now
[21:19] <BluesKaj> maco, you guys are lucky , here in the boonies the best dsl speeds are 750-800kbs
[21:19] <JMichael|work> maco: yes... i have never even anything close to 1MB/s down from us.archive.ubuntu.com.... ever
[21:20] <maco> i would be unsurprised if my office had a gigabit link
[21:20] <JMichael|work> BluesKaj: i have a gigabit connection here on campus, but at home i pay big money for 8MB/s
[21:20] <maco> ....when our ISP isnt having issues, that is
[21:21] <maco> 3% [1 pinyin-database 4,264 kB/14.1 MB 30%]  <-- last i checked, 4000 kilobytes were 4 megabytes
[21:21] <AngelForget> work in kubuntu drivers nvidia ?
[21:21] <maco> oh wait maybe im not reading right
[21:21] <maco> sorry, thats how much of the file is done
[21:21] <maco> ok now i cant figure out if it gives speeds
[21:22]  * maco ponders
[21:23] <maco> downloading the linux deb with wget, i see between 300 and 700 K/s
[21:23] <BluesKaj> JMichael|work, I can't imagine 8mbs , we do have fibre optic cable , but the ISP can't be bothered to offer faster service here , i could go cable but it's not worth the price either
[21:23] <maco> JMichael|work: ok, its not that ridiculously fast, but that seems like a reasonable download speed to me
[21:24] <maco> BluesKaj: how much would cable be where you are?
[21:24] <maco> i think its like $30/mo for 10Mbps here
[21:24] <maco> well $30/mo for the first year then $45/mo after that
[21:24] <BluesKaj> maco, hang on I'll take a look
[21:27] <cancer> blueskaj: it's same. my graphic card have two DVI port, does it matter. or monitor drivers?
[21:29] <cancer> l3top: back?
[21:29] <BluesKaj> maco, 160mos for 100 Mbps
[21:30] <maco> BluesKaj: 100Mbps? i was asking about 10!
[21:32] <BluesKaj> maco $37.50 /mos for 10
[21:33] <cancer> blueskaj: it's same. my graphic card have two DVI port, does it matter. or monitor drivers?
[21:34] <BluesKaj> does your monitor have dvi inputs or are you using vga , cancer ?
[21:35] <cancer> blueskaj: i think it's Vga, there are nothing other than power input.
[21:35] <BluesKaj> maco, that's stand alone service without any other bundled services
[21:35] <cancer> blueskaj: card only have DVI.
[21:36] <BluesKaj> no vga on the card , how are connected , cancer ?
[21:37] <cancer> blueskaj: using VGA->DVI connecter.
[21:37] <BluesKaj>  ok
[21:38] <BluesKaj> have you rebooted since installing those libs ?
[21:38] <BluesKaj> and drivers
[21:38] <BluesKaj> err driver
[21:38] <cancer> yes
[21:39] <cancer> do i need to install monitor drivers?
[21:39] <BluesKaj> well, I've run out of ideas cancer ...sorry :(
[21:39] <maco> BluesKaj: thats about what i was paying then
[21:39] <cancer> blueskaj: it's ok. i still got ideas :)
[21:40] <cancer> blueskaj: can you please tell me how to install ibm E72 Drivers?
[21:40] <BluesKaj> I have stuff to do , so i have to go
[21:41] <cancer> anyone? how to install ibm E72 Drivers?
[21:48] <L3top> cancer one moment.
[21:49] <cancer> l3top: sure & Thanks :)
[21:56] <L3top> cancer: what happened when you ran the installs.
[21:57] <cancer> l3top: i have reboot after installing those libs and post-release drivers. but its same.
[21:57] <L3top> why post release drivers?
[21:57] <cancer> blueskaj told me.
[21:57] <L3top> I dont work with those. I deal only with what is in the repos...
 cancer , sorry for my misinterpretation , leave the 173 driver installed and follow L3top instruction above
 post-release , cancer ...remember the recommended one only gave you 640x480 resolution
[21:58] <cancer> well, the libs you installed may make the difference , cancer
 blueskaj: post release or Recommended?
 cancer , sorry for my misinterpretation , leave the 173 driver installed and follow L3top instruction above
[21:59] <L3top> not important
[21:59] <L3top> just saying...
[21:59] <cancer> l3top: Sorry, but i asked her about the instructions you mentioned. i only find those libs commands.
[21:59] <L3top> he had corrected his statement...
[22:00] <L3top> he/she
[22:00] <L3top> his/her
[22:00] <L3top> not important to assign blame
[22:00] <L3top> it was a misunderstanding
[22:00] <cancer> i'm don't mean to blame him/her.
[22:00] <cancer> him*
[22:00] <cancer> just telling that i was confused.
[22:01] <L3top> If you would like to get this going, I want you to do the following...
[22:01] <cancer> as i remember you told to install those libs. and if nothing works then i have to use the command to remove nvidia glx.
[22:01] <cancer> but i told that there was no drivers installed, when i run those commands.
[22:02] <cancer> l3top: sure i would like to follow.
[22:02] <cancer> l3top: proceed. Sorry again :|
[22:03] <L3top> sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia*; apt-get install nvidia-glx-173 libgl1-mesa-glx libgl1-mesa-dri; sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg; sudo apt-get -y install --reinstall xserver-xorg-core; sudo nvidia-settings; reboot
[22:03] <L3top> maybe you can save that to a script and execute it when you get rid of X
[22:03] <cancer> letop: :D one more thing, I have uninstalled that post-release driver, but didn't restarted the maching.
[22:05] <cancer> now there are no drivers installed and i don't see any indicaitons to restart pc.
[22:05] <cancer> notification*
[22:06] <cancer> l3top: do i run these commands?    sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia*; apt-get install nvidia-glx-173 libgl1-mesa-glx libgl1-mesa-dri; sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg; sudo apt-get -y install --reinstall xserver-xorg-core; sudo nvidia-settings; reboot
[22:08] <cancer> l3top: graphic card have only Dvi ports and my monitors doesn't have Dvi inputs.
[22:08] <L3top> cancer
[22:08] <cancer> ?
[22:08] <L3top> http://pastebin.com/wXQNud6Y     save the RAW PASTE data there in a file on your hardrive, somplace you can find it. Say ~/nvidia-install.sh
[22:09] <L3top> then: sudo chmod +x ~/nvidia-install.sh
[22:09] <L3top> drop to tty 2 and run: sudo ~/nvidia-install.sh
[22:10] <L3top> It will take a few minutes to complete. and then it will reboot
[22:11] <cancer> L3top: i am not good at cd command in linux. it does not work like xp.
[22:12] <cancer> do i put that file in Rool
[22:12] <cancer> root*
[22:13] <L3top> cancer: ~ is your home directory
[22:13] <L3top> for instance /home/cancer
[22:14] <L3top> You could put that into kate, and save it as /home/cancer/nvidia-install.sh
[22:14] <L3top> then you can open a terminal
[22:14] <L3top> sudo chmod +x ~/nvidia-install.sh
[22:15] <L3top> then you can drop to tty2 (ctrl+alt+f2) and type: sudo ~/nvidia-install.sh
[22:15] <L3top> kate is the text editor that comes with kubuntu
[22:15] <cancer> there is no cancer in home :-S
[22:16] <L3top> I have to step away again
[22:16] <L3top> again... that was an example
[22:16] <L3top> I dont know your installs user name
[22:16] <L3top> so it would be /home/$USER
[22:16] <L3top> whatever username you set it up with
[22:16] <L3top> I used cancer because that is all I know you as
[22:17] <cancer> ok, saving that in home.
[22:17] <cancer> there is only publick
[22:17] <cancer> publick
[22:17] <cancer> public*
[22:17] <L3top> Think of /home/<user name> as your Documents and Settings folder
[22:17] <L3top> huh?
[22:17] <L3top> how did you install this?
[22:17] <cancer> cd
[22:17] <L3top> ...
[22:17] <cancer> desktop install
[22:18] <L3top> ls /home
[22:18] <L3top> er
[22:18] <cancer> ls/home?
[22:18] <L3top> ls   is like dir in dos
[22:18] <L3top> ls /home
[22:19] <cancer> i just burn an iso on cd and boot via it. then got options and next next next.... that's all
[22:19] <L3top> cancer: if there is not a user directory in
[22:19] <L3top> ohhhhhhhhh
[22:19] <L3top> you dont have an actual install"? You are booted live?
[22:19] <cancer> L3top: booted live?
[22:20] <L3top> This will never work. Every time you reboot it will revert to the cd settings.
[22:20] <L3top> yes.
[22:20] <L3top> you need to install to a hard drive
[22:20] <cancer> ohhh....
[22:20] <cancer> sorry, i got that :D. i installed it via cd on a partion with EXT4
[22:21] <L3top> have you installed pastebinit yet?
[22:21] <cancer> not
[22:21] <L3top> sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[22:21] <L3top> fdisk -l | pastebinit
[22:21] <L3top> mount | pastebinit
[22:22] <L3top> sorry
[22:22] <L3top> both of those will want sudo first
[22:22]  * L3top is terrible at support, is always rooted for these sorts of things and constantly forget to add sudos
[22:22] <cancer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/993251/
[22:23] <cancer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/993253/
[22:24] <L3top> what on earth...
[22:24] <L3top> I take it you chose to manually partition
[22:24] <cancer> SDA6
[22:24] <L3top> yeah... got that
[22:25] <L3top> you have no swap file
[22:25] <cancer> choose the same sda6 :d
[22:25] <L3top> you have 3 NT partitions... this is a bit of a mess... unless you are running 4 OSes
[22:26] <L3top> In the future, let the dvd do the work.
[22:26] <L3top> just advice
[22:26] <cancer> :D just two os running. thanks for advice.
[22:26] <L3top> I do not see a dvd drive
[22:26] <cancer> installed a Super drive. :)
[22:27]  * L3top begins crying
[22:27] <L3top> Ok
[22:27] <cancer> :((
[22:27] <L3top> so... you do not have any optical medium atm
[22:28] <L3top> you SHOULD have a user directory under /home
[22:28] <L3top> The fact that you do not, is very bizarre
[22:28] <L3top> and your partitions are wonky
[22:28]  * L3top hopes you see where this is going
[22:28] <cancer> why is that. i did the fine installation.
[22:29] <L3top> You do not have a user directory.
[22:29] <cancer> even kubuntu asked for a user name.
[22:29] <L3top> but something went terribly wrong
[22:29] <cancer> is it running failsafe mode?
[22:29] <L3top> I would say no
[22:29] <L3top> something didnt populate from /etc/skel... or
[22:29] <L3top> I cant try and guess what didn
[22:29] <L3top> t happen
[22:30] <L3top> but your install is goofy, and unless someone has better advice... I would recommend reinstalling.
[22:30] <cancer> http://imagebin.org/212783
[22:30] <L3top> there is no telling what ELSE might have gone horribly wrong
[22:31] <L3top> ls -la /home | pastebinit
[22:31] <cancer> l3top: there is 'Cancer'. is it because i have choosen the same path for swap...
[22:31] <cancer> .
[22:32] <L3top> .
[22:32] <cancer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/993262/
[22:32] <cancer> l3top: there is 'Cancer'. is it because i have choosen the same path for swap...
[22:32] <cancer> L3top: kubuntu is new for me. i'm 98/Xp user
 there is no cancer in home :-S
[22:33] <L3top> that is 20 min of my life I will never get back.
[22:33] <cancer> neither anyone can. :D
[22:33] <cancer> this is a learning process.
[22:34] <cancer> for me
[22:34] <L3top> back up to where this time loop began and follow the instructions on creating the script to save you time.
[22:34] <L3top> afk
[22:34] <cancer> ok
[22:45] <L3top> cancer you do not have a swap
[22:45] <L3top> it is its own partition
[22:46] <cancer> ah don't understand
[22:46] <L3top> cancer: it is similar to the swap file in windows, except it is its own partition
[22:46] <cancer> but i have a user
[22:46] <cancer> what i got is cancer have a home. but no home have cancer :D
[22:47] <cancer> there is cancer having home. i mean. i have done that process you asked for.
[22:47] <cancer> finished.
 ls -la /home | pastebinit   <cancer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/993262/
[22:47] <L3top> that means you have /home/cancer
[22:48] <L3top> in windows it would be Documents and Settings\cancer
[22:48] <cancer> Yes
[22:48] <cancer> in windows
[22:49] <L3top> In windows the pagefile = swap partition
[22:49] <L3top> you have no swap partition
[22:49] <cancer> can i creat one now?
[22:49] <L3top> this is like windows without a pagefile/swap file
[22:50] <cancer> ok
[22:51] <L3top> cancer: If it were me, I would crush the install, delete the sda6 partition, and let the cd/dvd do a "side by side" install with windows. This is JUST my opinion, and if anyone disagrees with me, they are welcome to give you advice.
[22:51] <cancer> what about that .sh file. i run on command in terminal and there nothing in result. but tty showed much. in which something was uable to locate and blah blah. and sincerely i could not get those words. they were fast moving.
[22:52] <L3top> The fact that you remained here the whole time means something was amis.
[22:52] <cancer> L3top: while installing it chosen sda/sda default. but then i changed it to sda6.
[22:52] <L3top> As it attempted to shutdown kde
[22:53] <L3top> cancer: if you choose the "side by side" option, it will do everything it is supposed to... however you will want to destroy the sda6 partition before doing so.
[22:54] <L3top> I believe that is the verbiage
[22:54] <cancer> i understand what all you explained.but i'm only facing this vga issue. everthing is fine now.
[22:54] <L3top> I have to make our dvd installer, so I am used to it as I do about 10 installs per day.
[22:54] <L3top> fine is a relative position
[22:55] <L3top> it is my humble opinion that running without a swap partition is a terribly poor idea
[22:55] <cancer> can't i make one now?
[22:56] <L3top> and if you were going to resize partitions and create your own and remanage your current one, I would use gparted, which is not kubuntu, and feel weird giving that advice here.
[22:56] <L3top> I would
[22:56] <cancer> do i need to make a new partition for swap.
[22:56] <L3top> as I said
[22:56] <L3top> Crush it and let the dvd do the work
[22:56] <L3top> that is my advice
[22:56] <L3top> take it or leave it
[22:56] <cancer> will that dvd hurt other stuff on partitions
[22:57] <L3top> absolutely not.
[22:57] <L3top> It can resize them... it can do all sorts of things... but unless you explicitly tell it to destroy them despite warnings, it will not.
[22:57] <cancer> it will creat a partition for swap, but from which partition.
[22:58] <L3top> However, unless you remove the ext4 fs you have created, it will try and make space for all of them.
[22:58] <cancer> i have 40gb for kubuntu. what if i exclude 5gb from it for swap.
[22:58] <L3top> again... if you remove the ext4 so that it is simply empty space, it will use that space to do everything
[22:59] <L3top> You can do that
[22:59] <L3top> again, this started because I thought you had no /home/$USER directory
[22:59] <L3top> that would have meant bad things
[22:59] <cancer> bad things like, any example please.
[23:00] <L3top> and while I enjoy your company, I am running out of time. I have testers doing installs now, and must attend to them
[23:00] <L3top> so my advice is based partially in trying to get rid of you, not because you are not a wonderful person, but because I have other responsibilities to attend to, and the dvd will do things the "right way"
[23:01] <cancer> L3top: Thanks for all.
[23:01] <cancer> L3top: will see ya soon. :)
[23:01] <L3top> If you are here in a few hours, I will be happy to help you do this manually.
[23:01] <cancer> without a new installation?:D
[23:01] <L3top> but again, the dvd does it very well
[23:02] <L3top> yes
[23:02] <L3top> without a new installation
[23:02] <cancer> after how much hours?
[23:03] <cancer> L3top: do you come here daily?
[23:03] <cancer> maybe i'll do a fresh installation.
[23:11] <syria> Hi, how can i use global proxy please? socks proxy I want to apply it system wide.
[23:18] <syria> >>>>
[23:21] <syria> please help me guys :(
[23:24] <syria> Is this channel emtpy or what? say something :(
[23:42] <L3top> I am typically in #ubuntu, though I use kubuntu exclusively. I will be here more often though..
[23:42] <L3top> oh... he left
[23:59] <Dan39> GRRRRR
[23:59] <Dan39> how can you guys leave such a huge bug