| jbicha | kenvandine: seahorse 3.4 is working great here now | 00:04 |
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| TheMuso | /cr/c | 00:12 |
| cyphermox | robert_ancell: hey | 01:18 |
| cyphermox | got your email, starting to fix this up now | 01:18 |
| robert_ancell | cyphermox, ta | 01:33 |
| cyphermox | robert_ancell: uploaded, building now | 01:40 |
| cyphermox | I'll look at gnome-phone-manager tomorrow ;) | 01:40 |
| * cyphermox signs off, attempts signing in to D3 :P | 01:41 | |
| === jalcine is now known as Jacky | ||
| RAOF | Grrrr. | 02:18 |
| RAOF | gnome-keyring-daemon changing its interface out from under the libraries is annoying. | 02:18 |
| TheMuso | RAOF: YOu mean things like the ssh agent no longer working kinda change? | 02:39 |
| dobey | oh fun. i bet it breaks ubuntu-sso-client again too | 02:40 |
| RAOF | TheMuso: Correct. | 02:42 |
| TheMuso | Yeah, fun times. | 02:43 |
| RAOF | TheMuso: And all my launchpadlib stuff not being able to find my credentials. And evolution not finding my credentials, and seahorse showing a very odd view of my passwords. | 02:43 |
| TheMuso | oh ouch. | 02:43 |
| jbicha | RAOF: oh you don't like the new seahorse? | 02:44 |
| RAOF | jbicha: I'd prefer a seahorse that works :) | 02:44 |
| jbicha | seahorse works here... | 02:45 |
| RAOF | Am I the victim of mirror skew? What seahorse version are you talking about? | 02:47 |
| jbicha | seahorse 3.4.1-1; it's a major redesign | 02:49 |
| * TheMuso sees a gnome-keyring update after syncing his local mirror. | 02:50 | |
| * RAOF adds archive.ubuntu.com to sources.list | 02:50 | |
| jbicha | ah, yeah, gnome-keyring, seahorse, & gcr needed to be updated at the same time | 02:51 |
| TheMuso | Ah yes! New gnome-keyring sees ssh agent working again. | 02:52 |
| RAOF | Oh, wow. They really have changed seahorse, haven't they. | 03:03 |
| TheMuso | grrr something mucks up metacity settings at every reboot for my session. I have to delete the metacity gconf settings files to restore proper behavior. | 04:02 |
| RAOF | Would it be too much to ask for GNOME stable releases to really only fix bugs and not change behaviour? | 04:05 |
| TheMuso | THis is in quantal... | 04:06 |
| * RAOF is processing the SRU queue | 04:08 | |
| TheMuso | ah ok. | 04:09 |
| TheMuso | I knew that, but was not sure if you were talking about my comment. | 04:09 |
| TheMuso | But stable GNOME updates changing behaviour has happened before afaik. | 04:10 |
| TheMuso | I don't know how it was dealt with though. | 04:10 |
| RAOF | Laney: You're not core-dev?! | 04:21 |
| Laney | RAOF: Indeed. I got the cli-mono packageset which meant that I could upload everything I needed to touch often in main. | 08:51 |
| RAOF | Fair enough. | 08:51 |
| Laney | However that is probably changing :P | 08:51 |
| geser | RAOF: he knows how the DMB works and avoids to start his core-dev application :) | 08:52 |
| Laney | actually I did start it the other day | 08:53 |
| Laney | you might be able to guess the URL | 08:53 |
| geser | oh | 08:53 |
| Laney | I still have a healthy fear of the DMB though … | 08:54 |
| === chaoticuk_ is now known as chaoticuk | ||
| chrisccoulson | hmmm, now to break firefox in quantal! | 13:31 |
| MrChrisDruif | Go ahead...I'm using Chromium ;-) | 13:33 |
| chrisccoulson | i am more than happy to break that too | 13:36 |
| chrisccoulson | well, perhaps if i cared about it ;) | 13:36 |
| MrChrisDruif | Ghehe, go ahead ;-) I've got still more back-up browsers =P | 13:43 |
| MrChrisDruif | Not the most sophisticated, but "workable" ^_^ | 13:43 |
| MrChrisDruif | http://lifehacker.com/5911058/the-avengers-desktop | 13:46 |
| MrChrisDruif | Note: UBUNTU desktop | 13:46 |
| dobey | heh, whenever people do that sort of stuff, it always looks good until they start actually running applications that do more than background status monitoring :) | 13:47 |
| dobey | well, s/good/cool/ | 13:48 |
| === tkamppeter_ is now known as tkamppeter | ||
| bcurtiswx | now that folks 0.6.9-1 is in ubuntu quantal, there is a fix in there that should make it into Precise. Do I cheery pick that fix and patch folks in precise and add an -ubuntu1 to it ? | 15:01 |
| bcurtiswx | cherry* | 15:01 |
| Laney | yeah, that works | 15:02 |
| bcurtiswx | mdeslaur, thanks for the sync btw :) | 15:02 |
| Laney | as long as precise < precise-proposed <= quantal | 15:02 |
| geser | bcurtiswx: -2ubuntu0.1 | 15:02 |
| mdeslaur | bcurtiswx: np | 15:02 |
| bcurtiswx | geser, the quantal version is 0.6.9-1 i'm not understanding why that goes to -2 | 15:05 |
| bcurtiswx | in precise | 15:05 |
| Laney | the precise version is -2 | 15:05 |
| Laney | so -2ubuntusomething | 15:05 |
| Laney | 0.1 or 1 are both fine | 15:05 |
| geser | bcurtiswx: precise has 0.6.8-2 and the usual next version for a SRU would be 0.6.8-2ubuntu0.1 | 15:06 |
| jbicha | or you could use 0.6.9-1~precise1 if you're just backporting from Debian/quantal | 15:07 |
| bcurtiswx | geser, ah yes. I was staring at my rmadison and.. lets just say these pain killers may be working REALLY well :) | 15:07 |
| bcurtiswx | mornin' kenvandine | 15:08 |
| kenvandine | good morning | 15:08 |
| bcurtiswx | ok im trying to pull lp:ubuntu/precise/folks but maybe since it was a sync thats not right because I received an error | 15:10 |
| bcurtiswx | well branch would be the right term | 15:11 |
| geser | that branch is the right one | 15:14 |
| === marrusl_ is now known as marrusl | ||
| kenvandine | bcurtiswx, i am on it :) | 15:35 |
| kenvandine | bcurtiswx, give me 5 minutes | 15:35 |
| bcurtiswx | kenvandine, im in no rush. I'm trying to do some data manupilation on lots of datasets which are each a half GB in size :) | 15:48 |
| chrisccoulson | w00t, closed my first WI :-) | 17:17 |
| chrisccoulson | so,i've nearly closed as many as last cycle already! | 17:18 |
| bcurtiswx | chrisccoulson, adding a WI of "Fix typo in next WI" and subsequently closing it, doesn't count.. :P | 17:46 |
| === charles_ is now known as charles | ||
| bcurtiswx | kenvandine, in empathy does edit->preferences still have a checkbox that says "automatically connect on startup" in precise? (I'm at work on an older release) | 18:30 |
| kenvandine | bcurtiswx, yes | 18:35 |
| bcurtiswx | thx | 18:35 |
| === skaet_ is now known as skaet | ||
| === kirkland` is now known as kirkland | ||
| chrisccoulson | gah, ffs | 19:57 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: can you disable thumb2 on armel while you're at it? (or I can do it over the weekend otherwise) | 20:02 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg, i disabled it last week | 20:02 |
| micahg | oh, hrm | 20:02 |
| micahg | I guess I'll have to dig at some point this cycle (shouldn't matter for older releases, so no rush) | 20:03 |
| chrisccoulson | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/firefox/firefox-trunk.head/revision/1217 | 20:03 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: right, I thought I saw that :), still seems to be unhappy, so probably just needs a patch somewhere, no rush though | 20:05 |
| jbrett | anyone here want to help me triage an apparent gdk problem, so that I may file a more intelligent bug report than "mouse gets stuck"? :) I guess I'll just explain, and then you can tell me to go to #ubuntu if asking here isn't appropriate.. | 22:18 |
| jbrett | so, since my 12.04 upgrade, at least a couple times a day, I'll get into this mode where the window I'm using seems to grab the focus, and won't let go. I.e. I can move around the desktop, but I can't select or type into any other window. | 22:19 |
| jbrett | whenever I click on another window, I get an entry in ~/.xsession-errors saying "Gdk-CRITICAL**: IA__gdk_window_get_events: assertion 'GDK_IS_WINDOW (window)' failed" | 22:20 |
| jbrett | then two following "g_object_ref" and "g_object_unref" G_IS_OBJECT failed assertions, presumably from the same presumed object. | 22:21 |
| jbrett | what component/package do I file this against? | 22:22 |
| chrisccoulson | jbrett, if you run the particular application with G_DEBUG=fatal_criticals, that will make the application abort on those error messages | 22:23 |
| chrisccoulson | then you can get a stacktrace | 22:23 |
| chrisccoulson | (as described https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Backtrace) | 22:23 |
| jbrett | hmm, ok. I never know which application it's going to be, but I guess I can just run the whole desktop with that variable. | 22:24 |
| jbrett | i.e. it's not application specific. This time, it happened to occur while I was in xchat, so I can type this :) | 22:25 |
| jbrett | sometimes it's chrome, sometimes it's gnome-terminal, etc... | 22:25 |
| chrisccoulson | jbrett, sounds more like a compiz or unity bug then tbh ;) | 22:34 |
| chrisccoulson | i thought it was just an issue with a specific application | 22:34 |
| chrisccoulson | but if not, then that's more difficult ;) | 22:34 |
| bryceh | yeah was going to say sounds like a window manager issue | 22:34 |
| bryceh | jbrett, tried it with unity2d or gnome fallback? | 22:34 |
| jbrett | yeah, it's not specific to compiz or unity though. I tried killing unity/compiz and running metacity --replace, and the same thing happens in metacity after a few minutes. | 22:34 |
| chrisccoulson | jbrett, how do you normally recover it? | 22:35 |
| jbrett | so it's some underlying library thing, I guess, I just don't have a clue which library to start with. | 22:35 |
| jbrett | I reboot :) | 22:35 |
| jbrett | I'm tempted to blame the nvidia driver. | 22:36 |
| chrisccoulson | jbrett, have you checked if there are any suspicious errors in dmesg? | 22:36 |
| jbrett | yes, nothing in dmesg or syslog. | 22:36 |
| chrisccoulson | :( | 22:36 |
| chrisccoulson | that sucks | 22:36 |
| jbrett | the only place I can find any errors that make sense is in ~/.xsession-errors. | 22:36 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm not sure what else to suggest. that's not really my area of expertise | 22:36 |
| chrisccoulson | perhaps bryceh has some more ideas :) | 22:36 |
| bryceh | well, xorg would be my next idea ;-) | 22:37 |
| bryceh | so yeah, feel free to `ubuntu-bug xorg`, and if it's not xorg it can be moved from there | 22:37 |
| jbrett | ok, I'll do that and see where it goes :) | 22:38 |
| jbrett | thanks | 22:38 |
| bryceh | jbrett, I hope it's not the nvidia driver though; that's obviously rather hard to fix... | 22:38 |
| jbrett | no kidding. | 22:38 |
| bryceh | if you do suspect -nvidia, try purging it and booting with just -nouveau | 22:38 |
| jbrett | unfortunately, nouveau won't even recognize my card. | 22:38 |
| jbrett | I'm running the identical config on another machine with nouveau, and don't see this problem, that's why I'm suspicious. | 22:39 |
| bryceh | yep, well so much for that idea :-) | 22:39 |
| jbrett | "identical config" means a 12.04 install with rsync'd /home -- obviously not completely identical, and different hardware.. | 22:40 |
| bryceh | well, it's not an issue we've had many reports on (that I know of), and if it was a widespread bug I'm sure people would be reporting it; sounds pretty annoying. So it's likely something peculiar either with your hardware or your install (or just a really obscure bug) | 22:46 |
| jbrett | yeah, I spent quite a while trying to figure out what was messed up with my config -- that's why I duplicated it on another machine. | 22:51 |
| jbrett | but something could obviously be mucked up with the install/upgrade. | 22:51 |
| bryceh | jbrett, yeah took a look thru all the nvidia reports we got for precise; none about mouse focus | 22:57 |
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