[03:06] <IdleOne> !purelubuntu is <alias> purelxde
[03:06] <IdleOne> !purelubuntu
[03:31] <none> hi
[03:31] <none> for some unknown reason i was banned from ubuntu-offtopic
[03:32] <none> its quite ironic because i was banned less than a minute before i logged off my computer for an hour or so
[03:32] <none> an hour and thirty minutes to be exact
[03:32] <none> so i didn't even notice it until i came back online 2-3 minutes ago
[03:33] <none> the reason given for me ban was "You have left channel #ubuntu-offtopic (requested by elky (you are banned because you were asked to stop but didn't.))"
[03:33] <none> elky....... did not ask me to stop
[03:33] <none>   elky says ::  the  am i reading? ----------------------------------
[03:34] <none> 2 minutes later without warning or notice he requests i am banned?
[03:34] <elky> i saw plenty of people telling you to sto
[03:34] <elky> +p
[03:34] <none> thats a lie.
[03:34] <elky> I saw plenty of people warning you'd be kickbanned
[03:35] <none> not a single person warned me or asked me to stop.
[03:35] <none> http://pastebin.com/0tfNPtBb
[03:36] <none> i have posted the log
[03:36] <none> elky, maybe u can read better than i can... if u can find anywhere where i was told to stop, or said  kicked and banned
[03:37] <none> note........... that a custom script i wrote blocks out any cursewords of any sort.... thus elky's line is censored
[03:38] <none> on further review lines 86
[03:38] <none> L3top> Godwin arguments are a bit beneath me. I am not sure you have the chops to make it an entertaining argument though. I need to know if I have to be burdened with both winning and being entertaining... because that is a bit more of an investment.
 L3top, better to just let him spiral into a /kb
[03:39] <none> bazhang, does reference a /kb which i can only assume is a kickban
[03:39] <none> but it wasn't even directed at me so i really didn't read it at the time
[03:40] <none> .......... my words it seems fall on deaf ears :(
[03:40] <none> i am disappointed....
[03:41] <none> elky, !!! are you an admin?
[03:41] <none> this behavior of yours is not what i would have expected from a moderator of irc
[03:42] <none> ..... i feel i am being treated very badly in this case
[03:43] <none> i did nothing deserving of ban.... i insulted none..... i attacked none..... i merely had a fun conversation....... then i am banned i guess by elky without any warning...... and now i am in this channel and not as single person cares
[03:43] <elky> Sorry, i had to take a phone call. You could do with learning some patience
[03:44] <elky> You "fun conversation" involved a whole lot of very inflammatory subjects. That's not fun.
[03:45] <none> which inflamatory topic? mentioning a funny mustache from austria?
[03:46] <none> romney used a horrible line "i am sorry if you are offended"......... but the only thing i was doing was poking fun of hitler
 L3top, ............................ muslims are terrorists?????? how will banning him make his point incorrect??
[03:46] <none> if you are offended by poking fun of hitler then ................ i do understand why u are so fast to ban me
[03:47] <elky> the hitler topic was supplementary to that
[03:47] <none> muslims are terrorists????????????????????????????????????????????? was a question
[03:47] <elky> "how will banning him make his point incorrect??"
[03:48] <none> how will banning me for asking a sarcastic question ????????????????????????????? make anyone correct except maybe you?
[03:48] <elky> It certainly has the added benefit of reducing the punctuation abuse.
[03:49] <elky> What exactly do you do? press a punctuation letter and count to 3?
[03:49] <elky> s/letter/key/
[03:49] <none> the multiple ????? was added for sarcasm
[03:50] <elky> and the million periods?
[03:50] <none> would u have really prefered people are terrorists?
[03:50] <elky> i'd prefer you not engage on the subject
[03:50] <none> ....... i do many periods often in writing... i will stop if that means being unbaned
[03:50] <elky> you could certainly hve done without bringing up Hitler.
[03:51] <elky> you were clearly trying to start an argument in there for your entertainment, then insisting on winning it for your ego
[03:51] <elky> That's very disruptive behaviour
[03:51] <none> i am sorry for bring up hitler.. my purpose was to only entertain people and liven up the discussion
[03:51] <elky> Hitler is not entertainment.
[03:52] <none> yes....... i wanted a fun argument.... thats why i said """
 i need support someone help me win this arguement with L3top
 I can argue whichever side you like.
 ...... then lets make it a fun discussion!
 these are the rules......... no cursing or bringing up hitler
[03:52] <none> http://pastebin.com/0tfNPtBb
[03:53] <none> the words are all there. i am kinda understanding u jumped to the end and perhaps rightfully wanted to prevent me from possibly upsetting people
[03:53] <none> but without seeing the first part , u really completely misunderstood the entire conversation
[03:54] <elky> you already _did_ upset people. By the time I removed you, people were already discussing how you were going to get banned for it
[03:54] <none> you are right.. i will not mention that topic again
[03:54] <none> please accept my apology
[03:54] <elky> none, that channel isn't for you to jump into and start arguments for "fun". Do you understand that?
[03:54] <none> if u could be generous and unban me i would be must grateful
[03:54] <none> i did think that was the purpose of the channel?
[03:55] <none> an offtopic fun place to chat?
[03:55] <elky> arguments are not fun for many people
[03:55] <none> but i only do fun arguments
[03:55] <elky> I'm pretty sure you were the only person having "fun"
[03:55] <none> i think the topic was going to be which tastes better chicken or tuna
[03:56] <elky> if you want a channel for such "fun", have you considered #defocus ?
[03:56] <none> i wasn't trying to do a athiest vs christian argument.......... i wanted a fun argument .......... cat vs dog
[03:56] <none> .. i am again sorry for the periods lol it is a bad habit
[03:57] <none> perhaps            spaces would be a improvement       no?
[03:57] <elky> not really. it makes the lines virtually unreadable to people with information processing issues
[03:57] <elky> (eg, dyslexia)
[04:00] <elky> so to get this straight. If you were allowed back in there, you would: a. Not start arguments for "fun" b. use less punctuation. Correct?
[04:00] <none> correct. and i would be very grateful
[04:02] <elky> !guidelines
[04:02] <elky> please also take the time to read that.
[04:16] <elky> You will need to tell me when you've finished.
[04:46] <none> lolok
[04:48] <none> When we are unsure, we ask for help. is a good rule
[04:48] <none> http://paste.ubuntu.com/ is favorite!
[04:49] <none> Don't use public away messages - this makes me lol
[04:49] <none> How to ask questions
[04:49] <none> in Linux IRC help channels -.   (for the people who cant ask questions... although i must admit a good question is half the answer)
[04:51] <none> Do not expect answers that make simple and easy what is complex and difficult. - like trying to explain a bad driver how to parallel park lol
[04:51] <none> Don't ask "anyone/someone knows" questions - i do this often
[04:52] <none> Don't chat if the channel is busy - this one is pretty interesting i would have never guessed it before reading
[04:52] <Tm_T> none: you don't need to repeat rules here, elky was just asking you to tell that you have read them
[04:52] <none> but i am going through them as i read and pointing out good ones is this allowed?
[04:53] <Tm_T> that really isn't necessary
[04:53] <none> k
[04:55] <none> You can access the source code of all Ubuntu packages, as well as view which ones are available for a particular release of Ubuntu at http://packages.ubuntu.com.
[04:56] <elky> why are you doing that?
[04:56] <none> reading still
[04:57] <elky> You're not reading the page I sent you to.
[04:58] <none> i was reading recursively
[04:59] <elky> I am not going to wait around for 3 hours... http://xkcd.com/214/
[05:00] <none> lol what time is in new zealand
[05:03] <none> ok i finish reading ... lots of cool stuff... didn't know it took 12 months of core operatorness to be operator here or that lauchpad has all irc nicknames listed
[05:03] <none> i read recusively i think in fast enough time .. 17 minutes about
[05:04] <elky> I told you to read it an hour ago. Your math is faulty.
[05:05] <elky> So tell me, what are the limitations of the offtopic channel?
[05:07] <none> .. i am not sure it was directly listed
[05:08] <none> but the core channel listing suggess that offtopic isn't offtopic -- it seems that ubuntu-offtopic is a discussion channel about ubuntu
[05:08] <none> more like ubuntu-discussions
[05:08] <none> aka non-support
[05:09] <elky> indeed. "Language and Subject" and "Don't be Annoying" are the key parts.
[05:10] <none> Community related non-support discussion -https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[05:11] <none> the entire community related thing confused me.. when i read off-topic i immediately thought all topics are valid
[05:12] <elky> So now that you know this, what would you say in there?
[05:13] <none> ubuntu is good ... but please make nomodeset easier to do at install
[05:13] <none> my nvidia card was soo hard to configure without a monitor :(
[05:14] <elky> It's not really a place to request stuff of developers who aren't even in there.
[05:15] <none> then u will keep me banned?
[05:15] <none> i asked so many times and try to be reasonable ... i find this very cruel punishment :(
[05:16] <none> i even read pages and pages and still u are toying with me :(
[05:16] <elky> I'm not toying with you. Would you have preferred i let you think asking that was going to get you what you wanted?
[05:17] <none> i am just begging to be unbanned
[05:17] <none> and u just mock me
[05:18] <none> i said i am sorry for talking about non-ubuntu things
[05:18] <elky> And i'm just making sure you're not just going to go back in and do the same thing that got you banned. Especially considering you can already do those things elsewhere
[05:18] <none> i read everything u told me to read and i did
[05:19] <none> please unban me i will talk about ubuntu and obey rules
[05:21] <elky> You're unbanned. Perhaps you would still prefer #defocus where there are less rules and more pointless arguments.
[05:21] <none> thank you very much
[05:24] <elky> There's no need for you to stay here.
[05:27] <none> :( ok i will do as u want and leave
[13:00] <Pici> ikonia: why the kick?
[13:00] <ikonia> because he kept going on about media streaming on blackbuntu
[13:00] <ikonia> bored of having to ask these guys multiple times
[13:01] <Tm_T> is that that horrible ultimateubuntu-style thingy?
[13:01] <ikonia> another pointless re-spin
[23:41] <Unit193> zee__, dedalux: Can we help you guys with anything?
[23:43] <dedalux> no
[23:45] <dedalux> I am not seeking help at least not right now because I am a member of the community of Ubuntu Venezuela
[23:45] <Unit193> Ah, then you should idle in #ubuntu-irc as this is for core channels, thank you.
[23:51] <IdleOne> dedalux: Please part this channel unless you need help from the ubuntu ops.