/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/05/17/#ubuntu-us-mi.txt

locodir-userI cant seems to install correct drivers for my built in video card. I get an error00:25
locodir-userit also lag much of the time and i am hopeing this will fix that00:27
locodir-userSorry, installation of this driver failed.  Please have a look at the log file for details: /var/log/jockey.log00:28
rick_h_shakes808: https://github.com/mitechie/Bookie/blob/develop/.gitignore01:27
rick_h_Blazeix: we miss you :P02:50
Blazeixrick_h_: :) sad I couldn't make it. A coworker was presenting at the .NET user group, so I was supporting him.03:12
snap-lWhat's more important, .net support, or hanging out with the cool people?03:41
=== greg-g is now known as NinetiesLinuxUse
NinetiesLinuxUseMono will kill all of Linux!03:48
=== NinetiesLinuxUse is now known as greg-g
snap-lActually, Java is doing just fune there.03:55
Blazeixunity is currently hogging the killing-linux-spotlight03:59
snap-lhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ae_SxDnD2W404:42
greg-gshouldn't you be in bed04:43
snap-lMaybe04:43
greg-gthat's an awesome one, though04:44
rick_h_Blazeix: ah, cool on the friend speaking bit10:36
rick_h_and morning all10:38
brouschword up homies?11:46
rick_h_ugh11:52
shakes808Good mornin11:54
shakes808g11:54
brouschstraight up dawg11:55
shakes808Anyone shed some light on this? http://sellout.woot.com/sale/2632512:02
shakes808Is this something that would be worth buying?12:02
rick_h_snap-l: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLqpJkIfzew13:46
rick_h_shakes808: might like that as well ^^13:46
AaronThulrick_h_: is there any way to look at whats is in the queue, including items being worked on?13:50
rick_h_heh, so that's up to you to track.13:50
rick_h_normally you have a job/db record with a state that gets set to PENDING when it goes into the queue, RUNNING when a worker grabs it, etc13:50
snap-lrick_h_: That's insane.13:52
snap-lANd cool13:52
snap-lbut mostly insane13:52
snap-lshakes808: Do you already have a plan?13:53
snap-lBecause I'm not sure how it would work otherwise.13:54
AaronThulso we have to do it our self, I would sure live it if the queue could help me with that13:54
rick_h_AaronThul: but then things like random access are what dbs are for. What about just using a db server as a queue?13:54
rick_h_you can stick all your data in there you need and pull out of it?13:54
rick_h_normally a queue can get going so fast, by the time you ask "is this in the queue" it's out. Many people do thousands of items/s through there13:55
snap-lAaronThul: I think you're not looking for a queue, you're looking for something like memcache or another nosql variant13:55
snap-lshakes808: OK, that'll teach me to skim. It's a mobile wifi router in that it is portable, not that it's tied to a mobile data plan13:57
snap-lshakes808: If you travel a lot, go for it. :)13:57
snap-lshakes808: Most of the time if the wifi is terrible, the wired is terrible too. :)13:57
shakes808rick_h_: that is pretty cool13:59
shakes808snap-l: lol I don't have a plan for that, that is one reason why I rooted my phone so that I could tether for free and try to make it a hotspot. I didn't know if that would be something that I could tether my phone to to make a hotspot better.13:59
snap-lshakes808: You'd need to set up a wifi bridge to make that work13:59
AaronThulrick_h_: don't tell me that after I figured out how to put the image into the queue :-)13:59
rick_h_AaronThul: hah, well ship me your list of requirements and I'll sit down and make my suggestions :P14:00
snap-land unless you can run two separate channels, it's not going to improve much14:00
shakes808with creating the bridge, is that on the router or phone?14:00
snap-lWell, both would need to support it14:00
snap-lyou can't have a bridge with one support. That's a teeter-totter.14:01
AaronThulrick_h_: I was just tying not to add a column to our database however that is what we might need to do14:01
snap-lAaronThul: Could create a separate table to handle the queue14:02
snap-lrecord id / processed14:02
snap-lor whatever else you need14:02
shakes808snap-l: I don't see it in the settings of the wifi tether but I do have channel choices, but can't run 2 channels on my phone14:02
snap-lYeah, and most mobile hotspots assume they're the router14:03
snap-lI don't think it will work for that14:03
snap-lIt'd be more for "I'm in a hotel room, and they have wired network. Now all 5 of us can get online"14:04
snap-lshakes808: Although it appears to support 3g / 4g native14:04
snap-lOK, so I'm not crazy.14:04
AaronThulsnap-l: so we need a queue table to handle the queue ;-)14:05
snap-lAaronThul: If that floats your boat, by all means. ;)14:05
snap-lPersonally I'd keep all of the queuey bits together.14:05
shakes808Yeah, because it supports 3G/4G, do you think it could work without the bridge?14:06
snap-lespecially with a nougat-filled center.14:06
snap-lshakes808: You'll probably want to read some more reviews of it14:06
snap-lI don't know what it's capable of doing.14:06
snap-lI'm going off of my experience trying to get an Airport Express and an Airport Extreme to act as range extenders14:07
snap-lshort answer: unless you have a wired connection between the two, it's not particularly useful14:07
shakes808alright14:07
shakes808Who here has rooted their phone and has used the WiFi Tether?14:08
snap-lshakes808: I've used it without rooting. (ting.com supports tethering)14:11
greg-gsame here, even though Virgib Mobile does not support tethering14:14
shakes808snap-l: lol you and your ting lol I am guessing you are liking it? I haven't heard any grumbling from your corner14:15
shakes808huh, my project tonight is to get my tethering to work lol14:16
shakes808apparently when rooted, I can't do the texting to find out how many minutes I have used lol14:19
brouschrick_h_: did you try to read 'djen of django' on kindle?15:02
rick_h_brousch: not yet, it's on there but not tried to read it yet15:03
brouschit is garbage in the kindle format15:03
rick_h_honestly, working longer days and not had much reading time at all15:03
brouschall of the code is missing15:03
rick_h_brousch: ugh, hoping it was ok on the DX15:03
brouschhttps://github.com/agiliq/djenofdjango15:03
brouschand15:03
brouschhttps://github.com/agiliq/django-design-patterns15:03
rick_h_ah, wonder if I can make a pdf to put on there then15:04
brouschi think they just took sphinx and shoved it into a kindle converter. i am using the html and it's ok15:04
rick_h_brousch: yea, and sphinx can do pdf, wonder how it looks15:05
rick_h_thanks for the heads up/link. I'll have to get to it at some point15:05
brouschthey have a few formats https://github.com/agiliq/djenofdjango/blob/master/src/Makefile15:05
rick_h_searching how to load sample data atm15:05
rick_h_retarded...*sigh*15:06
brouschfixtures?15:06
rick_h_initial db data15:06
brouschi did it with a fixture, which basically json15:06
brouschhttps://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/howto/initial-data/15:07
brouschpdf would be a nice additional target for those books15:08
snap-lhello world.15:16
snap-lPaired with bt keyboard.15:16
snap-lInteresting. he alt keys don't work15:17
snap-loh well15:17
shakes808snap-l: How do you like your Ting services? I have been looking at it and thinking that cutting my phone bill in half sounds very tempting. Would you recommend it?15:25
_MarcusI think awhile ago I told LWJGL to use software acceleration, how do I change it?15:33
_MarcusShit wrong channel15:34
_MarcusExcuse my language15:34
brouschsheat. sphinx needs latex to make PDFs. texlive is the recommended latex to use. texlive is about 2GB of crap to install15:47
* greg-g waves from SFO16:30
waldo323_rick_h_, between paper book or ebook for the bash -> zsh book which would you suggest?16:32
rick_h_waldo323_: http://www.amazon.com/From-Bash-Shell-Conquering-Command/dp/1590593766/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1337272536&sr=8-116:35
rick_h_best book for bash or zsh users tbh16:35
rick_h_I learned a ton of bash from it, and a ton of zsh from it16:35
waldo323_:) thats the one i had up looking at and am deciding between paper version and ebook version16:36
rick_h_yea, can't vouch for ebook on that one, have it in paper. If you want you can borrow it. I can bring to CHC next week16:37
waldo323_that would be helpful16:41
rick_h_k, just have to remind me as it's a full week away16:43
waldo323_ok will do16:43
rick_h_ for the python new guys: http://mikegrouchy.com/blog/be-pythonic-initpy.html16:55
rick_h_shakes808: ^16:55
brouschrick_h_: want a pdf copy of those django books? i installed the ginormous texlive to get them17:11
rick_h_hah, sure17:11
brouschhttp://dl.dropbox.com/u/101667/Djangodesignpatterns.pdf17:12
brouschhttp://dl.dropbox.com/u/101667/djenofdjango.pdf17:13
rick_h_ty much17:14
shakes808rick_h_: Thank you.17:14
brouschstill missing chapters, but all the code seems to be there. i don't think they've actually finished the books17:14
rick_h_oh interesting17:15
brouschit looks like both have had recent commits, so they're still under development. i'll write up instructions for generating the pdfs later17:23
brouschactually i'll fork their repo and see if they'll include it17:25
shakes808rick_h_: who was the guy sitting to my left? The one going to WSU. He was the one that you said was going through the python web stuff too? Or am I thinking about someone else?17:34
rick_h_shakes808: yea, he's tinkering with moving to programming...well going back to school so more than tinkering I guess17:35
rick_h_ummm, he's Derek's brother lol, can't recall his name off the top of my head17:35
rick_h_Drew17:36
rick_h_that's it17:36
shakes808who is Derek?17:36
shakes808lol17:36
shakes808I don't know peoples names. Like Blazeix, I know who he is and what he looks like, but don't know his name lol17:36
rick_h_Will there17:37
rick_h_Derek came a few times, but I follow him on twitter so know his name more regularly17:37
shakes808Gotchya17:37
shakes808I don't do the social network stuff. I think I have a twitter account that I used for maybe a week. I have a FB that my gf uses to play games, I don't go on often. G+ that I use to play some games. I have a blog that I started about a year or so ago that I haven't touched in about that same time lol17:38
shakes808And I have a LinkedIn that I think I just updated the this week17:39
shakes808since about 5 months ago17:39
shakes808I am assuming that I need to get on the times and start using some of these lol17:39
brouschtwitter is useful if you follow the right people17:40
jjesselike brousch17:40
brouschhah17:41
shakes808lol17:41
shakes808alright17:41
brouschthat's @brousch17:41
shakes808I will try to make a conscience effort on this17:41
shakes808When I am able to get into all my accounts and what not, I will update and see who to follow lol17:42
jrwreni bought those django books on kindle. are they work in progress or what?18:21
brouschjrwren: it looks like it18:27
brouschjrwren: but they're CC and have updates on github18:27
shakes808Talk to you all later. Have a good rest of the day.19:02
jrwrenrick_h_: thanks for the link to pep3151 this makes me very happy19:15
rick_h_jrwren: yea, everyone has their crap to clean up19:16
brouschi am a dog. i crap where i want and let other people clean it up19:16
jrwrenyup, that is why we don't run your warez19:24
brouschbuy a scoop!19:24
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brouschsorry http://zareason.com/shop/zatab.html23:17
brouschnote especially the "root" section23:17
brouschbig-ass workstation is up. dual quad core xeon 2.3GHz, 8GB RAM, 5 750GB HDs in a 1.5TB LVM23:52
rick_h_brousch: woot!23:53
brouschfinally have a place for all my crap and a computer to edit videos on23:54
rick_h_ooh, very nice23:54

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