=== yofel_ is now known as yofel [15:13] johanbr, yes, multitouch gestures should work on all multitouch trackpads [15:28] cnd, oh... they don't work for me on a synaptics clickpad [15:28] johanbr, are you sure your clickpad is multitouch? [15:28] xinput list --long | pastebinit [15:29] it's advertised as such anyway... [15:29] alright, just a sec [15:30] hmm, xchat crashed on me... [15:31] cnd, http://paste.ubuntu.com/992536/ [15:31] johanbr, ok, it's multitouch, but it only provides two touches [15:31] which synaptics doesn't let through if you have two-touch scrolling or tap-to-click enabled [15:32] oh, I see, that explains things... [15:32] notice the "Max number of touches" [15:32] right... [15:33] feel free to complain to Synaptics :) [15:34] :) [15:37] but thank you for the explanation! [16:46] cnd: does that mean people get more or less functionality if they disable 2-touch scrolling & tap-to-click? [16:46] or just different functionality? [16:50] JanC, well, not many applications have support for two-touch gestures yet [16:50] so the answer right now is that you get less functionality [17:02] or that it depends on the applications you use, I suppose [17:02] but less on average [17:03] wouldn't it be possible to implement "general gestures" (like scrolling) using some automatic compatibility layer? [17:18] JanC, heh, yes [17:18] we've been trying to think of sane ways to do that [17:18] from ld preload wrappers [17:18] to inserting logic into core X client libraries [17:18] to other terrible things that one should never do [17:19] alternatively, we could just support mainstream toolkits like qt and gtk and leave the rest to wallow in their unscrollingness [17:19] but we'd have to support ff, lo, chromium, too [17:26] I think that e.g. Windows mouse drivers for early scroll mice did some emulation like that, but I don't remember whether they used emulated keypresses (for scrolling) or something else [22:15] mlankhor1t, RAOF, tjaalton: ppa for the lts backports @ https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/q-lts-backport [22:15] I added timg so he can start pumping in kernels === alex_mayorga is now known as alex_matorga_ === alex_matorga_ is now known as alex_mayorga_