[00:00] <DarwinSurvivor> t-mart: for easier resizing, hold Alt and drag with the middle-mouse-button :)
[00:00] <ClientAlive> I don't have a system settings - I'm running minimal, so cli and editing files is my only options I think
[00:01] <ClientAlive> I have awesome window manager on there but even it is something that one configures with files (lua is what it uses)
[00:02] <aot2002> I just loaded ubuntu 12.04 on my T410 lenovo but I have no mouse / trackpad. I tried plugging in a external mouse but that didn't work either. Any ideas what else I can do?
[00:02] <DarwinSurvivor> ClientAlive: if you are running minimal then suspend and hibernate should never happen automatically (unless you install the gnome power manager or something
[00:02] <phunyguy> what is the easiest way to burn a .dmg image to DVD that is bootable in Ubuntu?
[00:02] <ClientAlive> ahh. I see. I saw something called xscreensaver while googling. I do have xorg and xdm...   ?
[00:03] <DarwinSurvivor> aot2002: first the simple stuff: Have you tried toggling ALL the Fn+etc combos for mice? Some lenovo systems actually have *2* mouse-disable hotkeys
[00:03] <aot2002> Yes
[00:03] <ClientAlive> maybe something like: "dpkg list | grep xscreensaver" would tell me if it's installed - is my command right tho?
[00:03] <phunyguy> or is it possible to make a bootable USB out of a .dmg
[00:03] <aot2002> Wait 2 mouse disable keys?
[00:03] <n1ckn4me09876543> hey, do I need firewall in linux like with ubuntu to keep unauthorized access to my pc? I'm mainly talking about home/public network, or will I know it if someone is trying to break into my ubuntu
[00:03] <DarwinSurvivor> aot2002: look up your model in http://www.thinkwiki.org/ I found this VERY, VERY informative when installing on my x220
[00:04] <DarwinSurvivor> ClientAlive: yes, that should find it, but with minimal unless YOU installed it, it shouldn't be there :)
[00:05] <DarwinSurvivor> phunyguy: .dmg as in an Apple installer or .img as in a CD/USB image?
[00:05] <phunyguy> .dmg as an apple installer
[00:05] <ClientAlive> ok. In that case, what would you look into next to isolate the source of the problem?
[00:05] <phunyguy> apple image anyway
[00:05] <DarwinSurvivor> aot2002: rare, but I do believe a couple models have it (one for touchpad, one for nib or something)
[00:05] <phunyguy> DarwinSurvivor**
[00:05] <bobweaver> Hello there fellow ubuntu'ers  Hope that you are having a wonderful night/day/whatever. I am looking for template's for Impress that are Ubuntu based or Canonical based any idea where to find. Or should I just make my own ? Thanks for your time. :)
[00:05] <wawowe> n1ckn4me09876543: no
[00:06] <ClientAlive> the awesome wm? But I though window managers had nothing to do with power saving or screen savers
[00:06] <phunyguy> hahaha, nice nickname, any relation to apple?
[00:06] <aot2002> Yes I don't see t410 with ubuntu 12.04 but I see ubuntu says all hardware is certified properly. I also noticed wifi is not working.
[00:06] <t-mart> n1ckn4me09876543, are you behind a router? and if so, do you not trust your family?
[00:07] <DarwinSurvivor> aot2002: did you test the hardware with the pre-installed OS to rule out defective hardware?
[00:07] <phunyguy> aot2002: check your wireless switch on the side of the laptop
[00:07] <aot2002> Yes been working fine for over a year.
[00:07] <phunyguy> <--- t420 here
[00:07] <aot2002> Wifi is on
[00:08] <DarwinSurvivor> phunyguy: .dmg files are NOT bootable iso's. They are basically a glorified .zip file with some install instructions (sort of like a .deb actually). What is your objective with the .dmg file?
[00:08] <aot2002> I did install from a usb stick but maybe I need to try alternatives like redownloading.. I find it strange it would just not work.
[00:08] <phunyguy> aot2002: press function f5
[00:08] <phunyguy> lol
[00:08] <DarwinSurvivor> aot2002: did they work when using the live-USB session?
[00:09] <aot2002> No
[00:09] <ClientAlive> I think it just did that crap to me again - I messes up my install
[00:09] <n1ckn4me09876543> wawowe: no..what?   t-mart: yes I'm behind a router. I'm new to linux and still trying to understand it, I normally use Comodo Firewall in windows and have it set to Paranoid Mode which tells me any connection going in and out my pc.
[00:09] <DarwinSurvivor> aot2002: yes, lenovo actually has TWO wireless enable functions. one is a switch, the other is Fn+F5 like phunyguy said
[00:09] <phunyguy> <--- win  :)
[00:09] <krababbel> n1ckn4me09876543: no, you don't need one if you trust everyone behind the router
[00:09] <aot2002> Yup both are enabled... Also dmesg does not report a mouse
[00:10] <DarwinSurvivor> aot2002: can you pastebin "lspci"?
[00:10] <aot2002> DarwinSurvivor: Since it's not on the net it's going to be a very rough time to get the output to pastebin.
[00:10] <aot2002> Also no mouse
[00:10] <aot2002> What are you looking for in lspci I can help find it.
[00:11] <ooldirty> oh dear sweet jaysus.  this is like being at work.
[00:11] <DarwinSurvivor> aot2002: can you transport stuff via usb?
[00:11] <aot2002> Gigbit network connection from intel does show up
[00:11] <DarwinSurvivor> aot2002: any mention of the mouse or wireless card
[00:11] <t-mart> n1ckn4me09876543, unless you're running a server of some kind which has been "port forwarded" to the external Internet, than I wouldn't worry. Let's get at a more important question though: have you ever found anyone breaking into your computer with that Windows firewall?
[00:11] <DarwinSurvivor> aot2002: ok, try using wired for the pastebin stuff
[00:12] <aot2002> Okay I see 6200 N for intel wifi so it sees it
[00:12] <phunyguy> DarwinSurvivor: FYI, my lspci shows no mouse or keyboard
[00:12] <phunyguy> nor does lsusb
[00:13] <aot2002> lsusb shows the mouse I have plugged into the computer
[00:13] <aot2002> If I can get the mouse working then I can at least use wired to continue to debug.
[00:13] <DarwinSurvivor> phunyguy: mice and keyboards typically don't show up. they are normally actually usb devices (internal usb) and should show up in lsusb
[00:13] <DarwinSurvivor> phunyguy: oops, missed your next comment :(
[00:13] <phunyguy> i would imagine the hardware is similar between our laptops, mine is a t420, just 1 year newer
[00:14] <phunyguy> 410 was last years
[00:14] <DarwinSurvivor> phunyguy: actually, they don't show up in my lsusb either (lenovo x220), so that test probably means nothing
[00:14] <aot2002> It does show up on my machine
[00:14] <phunyguy> buncha lenovo lovers here
[00:14] <phunyguy> :P
[00:14] <aot2002> :)
[00:14] <phunyguy> im a t420s actually.  the slim one
[00:14] <aot2002> Any other idea's?
[00:15] <phunyguy> you said no keyboard either?
[00:15] <aot2002> Keyboard works fine
[00:15] <hbx_> cant wait for the new AMD fusion a10 chips to come out
[00:15] <phunyguy> oh.. touchpad?
[00:15] <aot2002> I'm at a terminal and able to type
[00:15] <aot2002> Yup touchpad or track pointer both don't work. An external usb mouse doesn't work either. It's like the entire mouse is disabled.
[00:16] <phunyguy> USB root hub seems to not be working
[00:16] <phunyguy> but you said wifi is dead too
[00:16] <aot2002> Yes wifi dead too
[00:16] <phunyguy> which narrows it down to PCI bus
[00:16] <n1ckn4me09876543> t-mart, yea.. like home ip address like 192.168.1.1 is me  i see something pops up like   192.168.2.1  or something like that,
[00:16] <phunyguy> something really wonky going on with your laptop
[00:17] <aot2002> I wonder if the installation I used from this usb stick is crapped out?
[00:17] <phunyguy> it could be... try to recreate it...
[00:17] <SeaPhor> no. some lappys have a touchpad disable key/fn-key/or button
[00:17] <phunyguy> maybe try to redownload the iso, or make it with another method
[00:17] <aot2002> k
[00:17] <phunyguy> unetbootn works well
[00:17] <phunyguy> dont have to download the iso with it
[00:17] <phunyguy> you just tell it you want it to make a USB stick with Ubuntu 12.04 on it
[00:18] <t-mart> n1ckn4me09876543, everything* in 192.168.x.x is safe. it refers to other computers on your LAN.
[00:19] <leto_> anyone have a lenovo x1? how is it with ubuntu?
[00:19] <n1ckn4me09876543> t-mart: yes, but when it tries to get into my computer doesnt it mean they trying to connect to mine?
[00:19] <phunyguy> n1ckn4me09876543: thta is acceptable
[00:20] <phunyguy> that*
[00:20] <DarwinSurvivor> aot2002: if you reboot from the usb stick, chose the "Check disk for defects" that will tell you if the usb is bad
[00:20] <phunyguy> computers do that..  like discovery.
[00:20] <phunyguy> good call.
[00:20] <n1ckn4me09876543> phunyguy: hmm ok
[00:20] <t-mart> n1ckn4me09876543, not maliciously. it's likely network discovery chatter...other computers just trying to figure out what the network looks like
[00:20] <OerHeks> leto_, lenovo x1 is certified >> http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201104-7945/
[00:20] <dimholt> Hey guys. A new Linux user here who needs help formatting my drive. It doesn't work... Can someone help me?
[00:21] <phunyguy> dimholt: need a specific error
[00:21] <leto_> oh, that's good, thanks OerHeks
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> dimholt: use gparted
[00:22] <dimholt> phunyguy: I've been following a guide using fdisk, creating partitions, filesystems etc, but when I reboot, the old table is still being read and my changes aren't made.
[00:22] <escott> dimholt, how big is the disk?
[00:22] <dimholt> ActionParsnip: allright, I'll check that out =) Thanks.
[00:22] <dimholt> escott: it's 300gb.
[00:23] <OerHeks> leto_, awesome specs
[00:23] <Milos_SD> Hi
[00:23] <dimholt> Been following this guide: http://www.ehow.com/how_1000631_hard-drive-linux.html
[00:23] <leto_> OerHeks: I'm looking at those new thinkpad x1 they just announced
[00:24] <dimholt> But when I reboot, nothing has changed.
[00:24] <Milos_SD> is there a way to get my self a root access with rw on / partition in this new recovery console?
[00:24] <escott> dimholt, i'd certainly use the gui, or use "parted" instead of fdisk. if the computer is more or less brand new it might have gpt/uefi in which case fdisk is not the correct partitioning tool. you dont get any warnings messages from fdisk?
[00:24] <escott> Milos_SD, mount -o remount,rw /
[00:25] <dimholt> escott: Yeah, there was a warning, good you mentioned it. Problem is, everything fucked up when I tried to install new nVidia drivers. X broke completely. When I tried to fix it, I ended up with just a black screen with a blinking caret. Now running from bootUSB to reformat and redo everything.
[00:26] <dimholt> escott: one sec, I'll check the warning.
[00:26] <psusi> dimholt, if you want to reinstall, then boot the installer... no need to use fdisk
[00:27] <Milos_SD> escott, thanks ... now I can restore my /etc/group file, that I exidently messed up :D
[00:27] <dimholt> psusi: thing is, the gui won't run, even from the boot disk. That's what's messed up. Seems everything is broken.
[00:27] <Milos_SD> and I don't have 64bit livecd/usb
[00:29] <dimholt> escott: error is "WARNING: Re-reading the partition table failed with error 22: Invalid argument. The kernel still uses the old table. The new table will be used at the next reboot or after you run partprobe(8) or kpartx(8)"
[00:29] <escott> dimholt, thats usually not a problem. just means you need to run the command partprobe to get the kernel to update the table, once you reboot the kernel will reread anyways
[00:30] <dimholt> escott: I figured, but it doesn't. I
[00:30] <escott> dimholt, so how old is the motherboard on this computer?
[00:30] <dimholt> 'm trying to format the only HDD on the computer. It doesn't seem to be running the boot disk maybe. But I've done that many times and I know I'm doing it right.
[00:30] <dimholt> Hmm, a few years.
[00:31] <escott> dimholt, that would likely rule out uefi (unless its a mac)
[00:31] <dimholt> Okay, don't know what uefi is =(
[00:31] <dimholt> I'ts not a Mac.
[00:31] <dimholt> Gamin PC, few years old.
[00:32] <dimholt> All I want to do is just erase everything and try again from the boot disk... If I can get the Ubuntu installer from the boot disk to work, then I can manage on my own.
[00:34] <gr33n7007h> dimholt, use dd
[00:34] <escott> dimholt, if the data on the disk can be trashed you could try a low level command to blow away the table. "dd bs=512 if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda count=1"
[00:34] <dimholt> Just "dd"?
[00:34] <dimholt> Aight, I'll try that.
[00:35] <escott> dimholt, make sure /dev/sda is the correct device first
[00:35] <dimholt> Yeah, it says "Device" on everything, makes me a bit confused.
[00:35] <dimholt> I have "/dev/sdb1"
[00:36] <dimholt> And I also have "/dev/sda1", "/dev/sda2" and "/dev/sda5"
[00:36] <psusi> dimholt, what do you mean?  what happens when you boot the install disk?
[00:36] <escott> dimholt, sda is probably the internal hard drive and sdb is the probably the usb boot disk
[00:36] <dimholt> psusi: Tbh, I'm not sure that it runs the boot disk, which confuses me a bit.
[00:37] <dimholt> I get the computer name as the user.
[00:37] <dimholt> "root@computername"
[00:37] <psusi> dimholt, well you need to go into the bios and make sure it is set to boot from the install disk
[00:37] <escott> dimholt, are you removing the usb stick before trying to reboot?
[00:37] <dimholt> psusi: Yeah, I'm sure I've got that right... Maybe I've accidentally formatted the boot disk?
[00:38] <dimholt> escott: no, it's there.
[00:38] <psusi> dimholt, you have the bios set to boot from usb before the hard drive?
[00:38] <dimholt> If it's not, I just get the black screen with the blinking caret, unable to type or anything.
[00:38] <dimholt> Yesl
[00:38] <dimholt> I've even deactivated the hard drive to test.
[00:38] <psusi> dimholt, then rebuild the boot disk
[00:38] <escott> dimholt, when you say "boot disk" thats really confusing. the "boot disk" is whatever you boot from. it could be the internal hdd or the liveusb install device
[00:38] <dimholt> Yeah, I better try that.
[00:39] <dimholt> Okay, sorry. I've been meaning the USB flash disk.
[00:40] <dimholt> I'll try rebuilding the USB booter.
[00:41] <aot2002> Phew new Live ubuntu 12 cd is working now.
[00:51] <doktah> can someone help me with my ubuntu crashing?
[00:52] <windbuntu> what is the error message doktah ?
[00:52] <doktah> it just freezes... no error msg
[00:52] <doktah> usually in the screensaver
[00:53] <windbuntu> if you do not use the screensaver does it still crash?
[00:53] <doktah> it has
[00:53] <doktah> usually when moving windows
[00:53] <dimholt> escott: seems the bootable USB had been erased somehow. Maybe I did it myself accidentally =) Seems it's coming along now ^
[00:53] <doktah> dragging by the titlebar
[00:53] <dimholt> Many thanks for your help guys! Really appreciate it!
[00:54] <escott> doktah, what kind of graphics card?
[00:54] <windbuntu> what hardware are you using doktah?
[00:54] <L3top> doktah: what GPU?
[00:54] <L3top> doktah: lspic -nn | grep VGA
[00:55] <doktah> hd3850
[00:56] <tyler_d> lspci
[00:56] <BentFranklin> How do I tell ubuntu server to look in, e.g.,  repo us.archive...main...i386_Packages?
[00:56] <tyler_d> L3top: you mean to say doktah: lspci -nn | grep -i vga
[00:56] <L3top> oops... doktah lspci -nn | grep VGA
[00:56] <L3top> yes tyler_d
[00:56] <tyler_d> :p
[00:57] <Icehawk78> What's the standard practice for installing software that isn't manually (ie not via apt-get install) fin terms of "where to put the folder and the like?
[00:57] <tyler_d> Icehawk78: I stick with /opt
[00:57] <doktah> 1:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc RV670PRO [Radeon HD 3850] [1002:9505]
[00:58] <t-mart> Icehawk78, well, are you building the software? i.e. ./configure, make, make install....
[00:58] <BentFranklin> Icehawk78: I use ~/Software
[00:59] <escott> Icehawk78, I follow the following set of rules (a) check for a ppa (b) use checkinstall (c) put it in /usr/local if it has a unix like structure of folders (d) put it in /opt if it is monolithic (Mathematica and the like)
[00:59] <Germanaz0> hello everybody
[00:59] <windbuntu> doktah have you tried using the open source driver instead of the ati driver?
[00:59] <Germanaz0> I have an error on the new ubuntu 12.04
[00:59] <L3top> doktah: Which video driver are you using?
[00:59] <Germanaz0> ubuntu crash very often
[00:59] <Germanaz0> and don't know how to fix
[01:00] <doktah> how would I go about that windbuntu?
[01:00] <L3top> The fglrx driver wont work right on that card... so hopefully windbuntu
[01:01] <L3top> R*5|6|7 are not supported by the current driver.
[01:01] <L3top> doktah: what driver are you currently using?
[01:01] <doktah> just the ati one
[01:02] <windbuntu> i know that on my system, ubuntu offered me a proprietay driver, but it would not work, so i left it as is and it works very nicely and i just checked and ubuntu 12.04 says i am using no proprietary drivers.
[01:02] <wawowe> Germanaz0: what's the error?
[01:02] <Germanaz0> don't know
[01:02] <doktah> none of this was happening before I tried to use a TV as a secondary via the sviddy
[01:02] <Germanaz0> I cant read the problem
[01:02] <Germanaz0> it crash
[01:03] <Germanaz0> but for example, when I open software center
[01:03] <Germanaz0> it throws
[01:03] <L3top> doktah: apt-cache policy fglrx
[01:03] <BentFranklin> How do I add a repository to /var/lib/apt/lists?
[01:03] <Germanaz0> http://pastebin.com/8SCrp8iC
[01:03] <Germanaz0> wawowe,
[01:04] <L3top> What does the installed line say doktah? ( or you can just apt-cache policy fglrx | grep Installed  )
[01:04] <doktah> fglrx:
[01:04] <doktah>   Installed: (none)
[01:04] <doktah>   Candidate: 2:8.881-0ubuntu4.1
[01:04] <doktah>   Version table:
[01:04] <doktah>      2:8.881-0ubuntu4.1 0
[01:04] <FloodBot1> doktah: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:04] <doktah>         500 http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ oneiric-updates/restricted i386 Packages
[01:05] <L3top> ok... then you are using the appropriate driver.
[01:05] <doktah> I figgered
[01:06]  * L3top wouldn't expect much if anything to display on the proprietary one.
[01:06] <HareyJ> I'm having a severe problem with 12.04 in graphical mode, I suspect it's the video drivers.  nvidia 8800m gts on my laptop.   The system just freezes after I login and toy around for about 60 seconds or so.  mouse will still move, but nothing else works, no keyboard, nothing.  Seen this error reported out on the net but I haven't seen any fixes for it yet.
[01:07] <wawowe> Germanaz0: download libapt-pkg4.12.deb and dpkg -i
[01:08] <windbuntu> before 12.04, ubuntu would offer me a proprietayr ati driver and i always took it-now, since 12.04 when i try to install the ati driver it says a problem occured and i look and the ati driver is not installed? so i leave it as is and the stock ubuntu driver works good. i am not sure whats up with that but all my 12.04 computers are working good.
[01:08] <HareyJ> oh, and 64 bit version too
[01:08] <windbuntu> proprietary*
[01:08] <L3top> windbuntu: it is the driver itself that changed, and the version offered in this release. They drop support like flies.
[01:09] <HareyJ> I did try using 2d Unity, made zero difference, still locks up.
[01:09] <wawowe> HareyJ: does it lockup if you sit at the login manager?
[01:10] <windbuntu> very possible ltop i have not researched it that far, as long as ubuntu comes thru i tend to let stuff like that go and report only what i cannot fix, i guess ultimately i prefer ti use the drivers ubuntu offers as stock drivers if at all possible.
[01:11] <windbuntu> the 1st time i noticed this issue was on my asus laptop which uses the ati 5870 card, so i mentioned it when i saw doktak 's comment.
[01:11] <HareyJ> wawowe:  Yes, it does in fact, the first time I turned it on it did that.
[01:11] <wawowe> HareyJ: can you ctrl+alt+f1 before it locks?
[01:12] <HareyJ> wawowe: it takes somewhere between 30 seconds and 2 minutes to freeze up, not long enough for me to change the graphics driver.  Yes I can get to console, but I have to stay there, if I try to switch back after that time is up, it locks as before.
[01:13] <wawowe> HareyJ: switch to the console and do: tail -f /var/log/Xorg.0.log > new
[01:13] <tyler_d> >>
[01:13] <HareyJ> wawowe: I was tailing the system logs, and did see something about the graphics driver at some point, but I haven't seriously used linux in ages so I'm at a loss here..
[01:13] <wawowe> HareyJ: then switch back and let it lockup then reboot
[01:14] <wawowe> HareyJ: are there any errors in the log?
[01:14] <windbuntu> i am sure glad i am not a gamer
[01:15] <L3top> If you were a gamer, you would have a different card.
[01:15] <HareyJ> wawowe: Oh, I'm booted off the ubuntu 12.04 cd right now, I don't have a working stable OS on this laptop, sooo...   Yes, there was something about the graphics driver but I didn't fully catch it, an error it looked like... I'd have to reboot to the OS and install a console irc client to get you more
[01:15] <windbuntu> haha maybe i would but i hear my 5870 is ok
[01:16]  * Germanaz0 restarting pc
[01:16] <windbuntu> this desktop doesnt even have a card in it
[01:16] <L3top> HareyJ: lspci -nn | grep VGA
[01:16] <wawowe> HareyJ: just mount your install
[01:16] <L3top> was just joshin windbuntu
[01:16] <HareyJ> it'll be a min, not used to this interface :)
[01:17] <windbuntu> i have no clue l3top-never tried those type of games
[01:17] <wawowe> HareyJ: mount /dev/sda1 /mnt && cd /mnt/var/log
[01:17] <HareyJ> L3top: VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation G92 [GeForce 8800M GTS] [10de:0609] (rev a2)
[01:19] <wawowe> HareyJ: if i had to guess what it was, i'd say lightdm
[01:19] <L3top> HareyJ: did you install the proprietary driver (nvidia-current) or are you using the default nouveau
[01:19] <wawowe> HareyJ: the login manager
[01:19] <qubuntu> i connected my HP monitor to my Ubuntu laptop via VGA. but Ubuntu doesn't seem to detect my HP monitor as it's still on standby. how do i get Ubuntu to detect it?
[01:19] <HareyJ> L3top: It was the nvidia one by default as far as I can tell, I didn't specifically install anything other than clicking "install 3d party software and drivers" at the install.
[01:20] <L3top> qubuntu: Have you used the fn + f key to change the output?
[01:20] <philip> y
[01:20] <philip> justin
[01:20] <L3top> fn + f*
[01:20] <krababbel> HareyJ: then you need to insatll nvidia-current
[01:20] <HareyJ> what's the default password for this cd booted version?
[01:20] <qubuntu> L3top i tried fn + f on the keyboard and that didn't do anything.
[01:20] <L3top> krababbel: if HareyJ clickt install 3rd party then he has the nvidia-current
[01:20] <HareyJ> krababbel: I believe it said it was nvidia current, I could briefly get as far as that control panel
[01:21] <krababbel> og
[01:21] <krababbel> I thought that was just mp3
[01:21] <L3top> qubuntu: it isnt the f key, I mean whichever function key has the image of a monitor on it... fn + f4 on mine
[01:22] <HareyJ> shoot, let me just reboot into it... I can irc from console, although it's been 10 years since I tried.  hopefully that won't hurt too much ;)
[01:22] <wawowe> HareyJ: does passwd ask you for the current password?
[01:22] <HareyJ> hold, I'll be back in a minute.. I hope.
[01:22] <wawowe> HareyJ: apt-get install irssi
[01:23] <HareyJ> and this is irc.freenode.com?  I hate this irc client.  can't find any real 'settings'.  it's too IMy.
[01:23] <LordOfTime> HareyJ:  irc.freenode.net
[01:23] <HareyJ> groovy, brb.
[01:23] <krababbel> harovali: chat.freenode.net
[01:23] <qubuntu> l3top I just tried FN + monitor key (F7 on mine) but that didn't do anything. my monitor doesn't detect any signal.
[01:24] <LordOfTime> krababbel:  tiny bit slow there :P  but irc.freenode.net and chat.freenode.net are synonymous
[01:24] <L3top> qubuntu: try it a couple of times, with some time between.
[01:24] <L3top> qubuntu: there are several configs possible
[01:24] <wawowe> qubuntu: may have to add another screen in xorg.conf
[01:24] <krababbel> LordOfTime: ok, I just remembered it from their website, i use chat now, and it feels faster :)
[01:26] <qubuntu> thanks l3top it still doesn't work but i think i will restart my computer and see if that does anything.
[01:26] <qubuntu> wawowe i will look into that, thanks.
[01:27] <brett__> how does wine work
[01:27] <wawowe> brett__: you type: wine windowsapp.exe
[01:29] <BentFranklin> On Ubuntu Server 12.04, I edited sources.list, updated, and did apt-get install foo and it finds foo then stops with "Media change: please insert the disc labeled ...Pangolin... and press enter".  Why is that?
[01:29] <haux> You drink it, and you make bad decisions. That's how it works.
[01:30] <wawowe> BentFranklin: remove the "cd" source from sources.list
[01:30] <bazhang> !ot > haux
[01:30] <brett__> i did and my screen flickered brought up blue screen and then said not found
[01:30] <L3top> BentFranklin: one of your sources.list is going to be file//cdrom or some such. Remove it. Or it can be unclicked from the update manager settings
[01:30] <brett__> funny haha
[01:30] <qubuntu> !xorg.conf
[01:30] <BentFranklin> L3top: wawowe: Thanks
[01:30] <qubuntu> !xorg.conf > qubuntu
[01:31] <wawowe> brett__: if something wasn't found it was probably a dll, you'll have to download those when they're needed
[01:32] <brett__> im starting to get annoyed with ubuntu everything seems complicated its hard to get answers
[01:32] <proxinix> How can I help you brett__
[01:32] <bazhang> !manual | brett__ have a read
[01:32] <bazhang> !rute | brett__ and here
[01:33] <bazhang> brett__, another help forum for ubuntu is askubuntu.com
[01:33] <wawowe> brett__: if you want windows, use it. wine is an emulator and when things don't work you just have to live with it
[01:34] <nmatrix9> Hey guys screwed up my xserver tried to do a clean reinstall of my nvidia drivers with apt-get remove nvidia-* and then do apt-get install butI keep getting nvidia-96 : Depends: xorg-video-abi-10 but it is not installable
[01:34] <qubuntu> L3top I went to NVIDIA X Server Settings and I see the HP Display monitor there. but under configuration it says "disabled".  i have two options: seperatexscreen or twinview. what do i do?
[01:35] <nmatrix9> Anyone know how to reinstall nvidia drivers for 12.04
[01:35] <L3top> I guess you want to run twinview in clone mode
[01:35] <brett__> but my pc responds to ubuntu better thsn it ever did with win 7 it has never worked as smooth as it does now i just have trouble with some of the programs and i miss some things i could do
[01:35] <LordOfTime> nmatrix9:  `sudo apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-current`  ?
[01:35] <nmatrix9> Can't even boot into x with rescue cd
[01:35] <L3top> I guess you want to run twinview in clone mode qubuntu
[01:36] <nmatrix9> I  will try that LordOfTime thanks
[01:37] <qubuntu> ok i'll try that l3top
[01:38] <sancas> super fail!! i run sudo rm -rf /opt/* and i dont know what i do :s
[01:38] <sancas> but i have problems
[01:38] <qubuntu> it worked! thanks L3top ! :)
[01:39] <qubuntu> although i'll be using right mode instead of clone since it has same screens in this mode.
[01:40] <wawowe> brett__: what do you miss?
[01:41] <nmatrix9> LordOfTime kinda weird though that I can't even get x with the ubuntu rescue cd
[01:41] <brett__> when you want to download something you just down load and install it now even when i download ubuntu stuff igoes to a file and i dont know how or if its installed
[01:42] <L3top> happy that works out for you qubuntu
[01:42] <escott> brett__, you generally should not be downloading programs. instead use apt-get install or synaptic or software center
[01:42] <brett__> so if i happen to find the file i still dont know what to to with it
[01:43] <wawowe> brett__: you can get pretty much any program you might want all from the same place
[01:43] <brett__> how do i get access to this
[01:43] <Mike9863> Ubuntu no longer automatically changes the connector from Speakers to Headphones under the sound settings when I plug in headphones. How can I enable this?
[01:43] <krababbel_> brett__: you use software center
[01:44] <brett__> yes i do
[01:44] <nmatrix9> LordOfTime it worked I have x session back thank you
[01:44] <LordOfTime> nmatrix9:  no problem :)
[01:44] <wawowe> brett__: if you find a program on the internet that you want and it's not for linux then don't get it
[01:44] <wawowe> brett__: find it's linux =
[01:44] <brett__> i see
[01:45] <escott> Mike9863, does "sudo lshw -C sound" mention intel HDA (high def audio) and is this a laptop?
[01:46] <Mike9863> escott: Nothing about intel; yes it's a laptop
[01:46] <escott> Mike9863, what kind of soundcard is it?
[01:47] <Mike9863> escott: Nevermind that; it does say intel HDA. Sorry. Here's the output: http://pastebin.com/vRraZprN
[01:47] <escott> Mike9863, the joys of HDA sound. so a little background is in order
[01:48] <escott> Mike9863, intel HDA is a fairly general specification, but each laptop maker has the option of connecting the output ports (called PINS) with different physical jacks. as a result there are an exponential number of board configurations
[01:49] <vlt> Hello. A special chroot environment caused this msg: “invoke-rc.d: policy-rc.d denied execution of stop.” This is what I want for other chroots, too. How to achieve this?
[01:49] <escott> Mike9863, most likely what has happened is that your kernel is picking the wrong board configuration and is either not detecting the fact that the headphone jack has been inserted, or is outputting sound to the wrong PIN
[01:50] <wawowe> vlt: selinux, apparmor
[01:51] <vlt> wawowe: hmmm, sounds complicated.
[01:51] <escott> Mike9863, http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Help_To_Debug_Intel_HDA describes some kernel module options you can try. another approach would be to boot the livecd of a version that works, and downloading the hda_analyzer python script and running it in monitor mode. then plug/unplug into the headphone jack and note what how the PIN configuration is changed in order to make output go to headphones, then you can replicate that on
[01:51] <escott> your current system
[01:52] <sjd> hi all,各位早上好
[01:52] <Mike9863> escott: Thanks I'll look into it. I don't remember having this problem in 11.10. It used to change automatically.
[01:53] <escott> Mike9863, this happened to me between 10.10 and 11.04. a patch got dropped somewhere in the kernel build. i waited a few months and it was back to working again
[01:53] <escott> Mike9863, in the interim i just manually flipped the pins when I needed it
[01:54] <Mike9863> escott: I'm hoping I won't have to resort to that :P. Thanks for your help.
[01:56] <trying2work> Hi, can anyone here help me with printing problems on ubuntu 12.04 ?
[01:56] <menturi> Hello. I am getting a 'panic' when trying to boot off an Ubuntu cd and am not sure what to do at all. I'm very new to linux, and am unfamiliar with many things, so sorry in advance (hehe). If anybody can help me, what information do you need?
[01:57] <menturi> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/53794511/Images/0515022350.jpg
[01:57] <naryfa> menturi: try an alternate installation iso
[01:57] <skulltip> is it a bug that the menu of an app drops from the top of the hud down to the application you're running?
[01:57] <vlt> menturi: First thing you could do is to check whether the CD image is fine. There’s an option in the boot menu.
[01:57] <menturi> I burned two CDs from the same iso, both with the same results. I also tried to do that 'verify contents of CD' once and it said it was successful. Do you think it is possible that the iso is bad?
[01:58] <GeminiDomino> This is probably a dumb question, but I installed 32-bit since I didn't know this laptop had a 64bit processor. Is there some sort of metapackage or something that I can use to install the 64-bit packages without having to do a fresh reinstall?
[01:58] <uw> hi just want to see if this is possible.  I have a bunch of window open: brower (with tabs), natuatus windows, totem, ETC.  i need to reboot.  Is there a way i can save this setting of all the windows and positions and return to it upon reboot?
[01:58] <vlt> GeminiDomino: I don’t think so.
[01:59] <vlt> menturi: Not very likely if you verified it already.
[01:59] <GeminiDomino> I was afraid of that. :P Thanks
[01:59] <Pnoexz> uw: sessions, your DE should have them
[01:59] <escott> menturi, appears to be from b43 (broadcom wireless). try and boot the safe mode if that doesn't work you can try a b43.blacklist=yes option on the boot (assuming b43 is the module name)
[01:59] <trying2work> I have upgraded to ubuntu 12.04 (64-bit). And now I cannot print anything. I am not sure what went wrong. I have all the correct drivers, but my printer priints out a blank page , and another page with some kinda error message. Is there anyone who can help me find out and fix the problem ?
[02:00] <uw> Pnoexz, hi thanks for the response.  I'm kinda new, can you elaborate on "DE"
[02:00] <wawowe> vlt: were you talking about chroot jailing a process or making an system unbreakable during a chroot
[02:00] <Pnoexz> uw: Desktop Environment, gnome, KDE xfce, lxde, colorbox
[02:02] <SomeGuy303-2> Looking for a little help with an HDMI audio issue. When the TV is turned off, I lose the HDMI audio device, and only get it back with a reboot...
[02:03] <escott> SomeGuy303-2, have you tried rmmod and modprobe?
[02:03] <wawowe> SomeGuy303-2: does alsa mixer show the still show it?
[02:03] <SomeGuy303-2> gone from the mixer
[02:04] <menturi> escott:  excuse my unfamiliarity. How do I boot in safe mode? I found my way to this screen < http://dl.dropbox.com/u/53794511/Images/0516022202.jpg >.
[02:05] <wawowe> SomeGuy303-2: that shouln't happen, what about: aplay -l
[02:05] <vlt> wawowe: I want to chroot and then run `aptitude install` w/o actually stopping or running any processes. Something like debootstrap does. There’s “ltsp-chroot” that seems to do this but it’s hard wired to chroot into one of its client image environments. I want to find out what it does to prevent messing up the “host” processes.
[02:05] <escott> menturi, either F6 or F4 (I think modes means video modes)
[02:05] <SomeGuy303-2> wawowe: it drops it also
[02:06] <wawowe> menturi: for single-user mode add -s to the grub boot line
[02:06] <stars69> hi guys how do you search for dir or file on ssh terminal?
[02:06] <escott> menturi, see that line above the last one that says ubuntu.seed boot=casper etc etc.. if you can figure out the proper option to modify that (the kernel boot options) and can add b43.blacklist=yes that will hopefully get you booting
[02:06] <schnuffle> stars69: locate or find
[02:06] <stars69> schnuffle, thanks
[02:07] <vlt> stars69: Exactly like on an an ordinary terminal ;-)
[02:07] <schnuffle> :)
[02:07] <vlt> stars69: `find` for example
[02:07] <menturi> F4 lists: "Normal", "Use driver update disk", "OEM install (for manufacturers)". F6 lists: "acpi=off", "noapic", "no1apic", "edd=on", "nodmraid", "nomodeset", "Free software only"
[02:07] <trying2work> any one who can help me with printing problems on ubuntu 12.04 ?
[02:07] <tucemiux> anyone knows how well ubuntu plays with video cards that have HDMI output?
[02:07] <menturi> Ah maybe i can type text to it somehow...
[02:08] <pibarnas> tucemiux, very well.
[02:08] <skiz_> I have a vid card with HDMI running 12.04
[02:08] <skiz_> runs great.
[02:08] <L3top> tucemiux: all of my outputs are HDMI
[02:08] <locoguano> The sliders (not scroll bar) can not be seen in the theme I am using. Anyone know the GTK-3.0 setting to change slider color?
[02:08] <L3top> well... except the laptops...
[02:08] <stars69> hi, have anyone have this 2 files libtclsqlite3.so and curl?
[02:08] <tucemiux> you guys think an ivy bridge laptop with HDMI output will play with ubuntu?
[02:08] <pibarnas> tucemiux, mine is linked to the LED tv. very good.
[02:09] <skiz_> btw, my name is Skiz, new ubuntu user... =/
[02:09] <schnuffle> stars69: sudo apt-get install curl
[02:09] <LordOfTime> stars69:  curl can be installed by `sudo apt-get install curl`, the other one i told you about earlier
[02:09] <Pnoexz> hey, how do i clean the kernel log? due to a bug it went from a few lines to 6.6GB in a day
[02:09] <wawowe> SomeGuy303-2: use lsmod and check if a module disappears from the list after you unplug it
[02:09] <escott> menturi, hit f6 then hit esc and it should put the cursor in the boot parameters line
[02:09] <tucemiux> pibarnas, im going to get a monitor with HDMI inputs because I couldnt find a 32" TV that I could use for gaming  and part time TV use
[02:10] <escott> menturi, leave a space after the -- and add "b43.blacklist=yes"
[02:10] <pibarnas> tucemiux, mine's 32''.
[02:10] <stars69> LordOfTime, i must be missed your first msg can you repeat agaun plz
[02:10] <tucemiux> pibarnas, how's your gaming on that rig?
[02:10] <escott> menturi, so it should read "blah blah blah -- b43.blacklist=yes" and then press ENTER
[02:10] <LordOfTime> stars69:  you know me as Resistance.  but my last message was: <LordOfTime> stars69:  curl can be installed by `sudo apt-get install curl`, the other one i told you about earlier
[02:10] <pibarnas> tucemiux, I don't game on that. sorry.
[02:11] <stars69> LordOfTime, i tried all your suggestion none of those work
[02:11] <tucemiux> pibarnas, yeah, like i was saying!  I'm looking for something I will use on a daily basis as a monitor and on the weekends watch games on it (TV)
[02:11] <skiz_> Odd question, but anyone know an offline MD5 Decrypter tool for 12.04?
[02:11] <pibarnas> tucemiux, indeed I play a little of mupen64plus, but I think it's not what you talking about.
[02:11] <LordOfTime> stars69:  then file a bug against the FTPd you're using, because its looking in the wrong location
[02:12] <LordOfTime> stars69:  you may have to manually create that directory structure wherever it needs it to be, then symlink the correct file to there
[02:12] <tucemiux> pibarnas, dont know whats mupen, i mainly use UrbanTerror and going to start doing some COD once I get my rig set up good
[02:12] <menturi> escott:  thak ou b43.blacklist=yes seemed to work.
[02:12] <menturi> thank you*
[02:12] <stars69> LordOfTime, well not that, those files are not on my system
[02:12] <pibarnas> tucemiux, it's a nintendo 64 emulator X)
[02:12] <escott> menturi, so you probably arent going to have wireless on this install. you'll need to plugin directly
[02:12] <SomeGuy303-2> wawowe: before and after lsmod are the same
[02:13] <tucemiux> nintendo? LoL ok
[02:13] <wawowe> vlt: here's what i got from google http://people.debian.org/~hmh/invokerc.d-policyrc.d-specification.txt https://www.debian-administration.org/article/426/Installing_new_Debian_systems_with_debootstrap may or may not be useful
[02:13] <stars69> LordOfTime, i can creat dir but i need those files
[02:14] <LordOfTime> stars69:  did you apt-get install libsqlite3-tcl ?
[02:14] <wawowe> SomeGuy303-2: what kind of card is it?
[02:14] <stars69> like i said it said i already has that apps installed, i did remove and re-install but not working
[02:14] <LordOfTime> stars69:  and then look at this location for the file: /usr/lib/tcltk/sqlite3/libtclsqlite3.so
[02:15] <Pnoexz> hey, how do i clean the kernel log? due to a bug it went from a few lines to 6.6GB in a day
[02:15] <LordOfTime> stars69:  because /usr/lib/tcltk/sqlite3/libtclsqlite3.so is where libsqlite3-tcl installs it
[02:15] <SomeGuy303-2> wawowe: snd_hda_intel
[02:15] <lime_> What package is the `qemu` binary in ubuntu?
[02:15] <wawowe> SomeGuy303-2: try reloading the module
[02:15] <stars69> LordOfTime,i did looked at dir, those file is not there
[02:16] <stars69> can someone plz help me with find this file plz libtclsqlite3.so
[02:16] <LordOfTime> stars69:  repeating won't help youi'
[02:16] <wawowe> Pnoexz: either use sed to delete everyline with the error or delete the kernel log
[02:17] <elequ> I was wondering if someone could help me? I'm trying to install 'lamp-server' using either apt-get or tasksel
[02:17] <elequ> but it is not listed to install
[02:17] <Pnoexz> wawowe: thanks, ill go with deletion
[02:17] <LordOfTime> elequ:  sudo apt-get install lamp-server ?
[02:17] <menturi> escott:  Okay. I'm going to continue to install Ubuntu and see then what options I have for internet. I have a question about partitioning. I currently have /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda2, both for winows, and some 'free space'. I'm a bit unclear on 'primary' vs 'logical' setup and what it means.
[02:17] <elequ> can anyone tell me where this list comes from? how I can add 'lamp-server' to apt-get as an option to install
 Can you help me with printing problems on ubuntu 12.04 ?
[02:17] <wawowe> elequ: apt-cache search lamp
[02:17] <elequ> LordOfTime, nothing happens :-/
[02:17] <trying2work> LordOfTime: Can you help me with printing problems on ubuntu 12.04 ?
[02:18] <elequ> apt-cache search only give me three things
[02:18] <escott> menturi, you can have it automatically install to the free space and it will setup an extended partition with two logical partitions inside. if you want manual partitioning then I would recommend creating an extended partition and putting logical partitions inside it. you are limited to 4 primary partitions (and an extended counts as 1 primary). by creating extended parts you can have hundreds of partitions instead of only 4
[02:19] <trying2work> escott: can you help me resolve printing problem on ubuntu 12.04 ?
[02:19] <elequ> I'm using a VPS for uni and think apt-get has been gutted a bit
[02:19] <elequ> how do I add package lists to apt-get?
[02:19] <wawowe> elequ: or apt-get install apache2 mysql-server php5*
[02:19] <escott> trying2work, details
[02:19] <LordOfTime> trying2work:  no, i cant, but give the channels details
[02:20] <wawowe> elequ: if you mean adding repositories, it's in /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[02:20] <skulltip> sorry, i gave unity a month but it is either still buggy and not all there yet, or my upgrade didn't go as well as I thought it did.
[02:20] <elequ> thanks wawowe! I'm going to try that but I'm actually interested to know where apt-get gets it's information from :)
[02:20] <locoguano> can anyone tell me what gtk-3 property controls the color of a slider (not scrollbar)?
[02:20] <elequ> poo! yes that
[02:20] <skulltip> switching to openbox or lxde
[02:21] <phunyguy> yeah lxde runs so much better...  :-/
[02:21] <Logan_> stars69: The package libsqlite3-0-dbg also appears to provide that file in /usr/lib/debug/usr/lib/tcltk/sqlite3/.
[02:21] <trying2work> escott: I have upgraded to ubuntu 12.04 (64bit). Soon after that, I am not able to print anything from my printer. I tried 2-3 different printers, but none of them worked. When I issue a print command from adobe acrobat reader , there is no response form printer. Or when I issue the command from evince the printer starts to print something. But it gives out a blank page and another page with some error message printed on it.
[02:21] <elequ> wawowe, thank you!!
[02:21] <nydel> i'm having some problems with dual monitors - i want applications to open on my primary monitor, or to remember where they were closed & open there, but often they don't. then they open halfway between the monitors, in the middle of the workspace. please help, i can't figure this out for the life of me! thank you
[02:22] <Logan_> stars69: Although the libsqlite3-tcl package should be providing that file already.
[02:22] <Tyrope> Greetings. I'm trying to install 12.04server on a Windows Virtual PC (Don't have anything else available at school, grr). I recall having to run the parameters 'noreplace-paravirt vga=791' (not 100% on the number) for 11.10desktop, is this still required for 12.04server?
[02:22] <escott> trying2work, what kind of printer is it? what does it say in the printers dialog?
[02:22] <SomeGuy303-2> wawowe: no chage with modprobe snd_hda_intel, or modprobe snd_hda_codec_hdmi
[02:23] <wawowe> SomeGuy303-2: rmmod
[02:23] <wawowe> SomeGuy303-2: then modprobe
[02:24] <trying2work> escott: I have tried with HP 4050 and with Konika minolta c451 printers. The print queue does not give any error message, it shows that the command was processed and the printing was done. The printer prints this error message = "ERROR: invald access OFFENDING COMMAND: filter STACK: /SubFileDecode endstream 0  --nostringval-- "
[02:24] <SomeGuy303-2> wawowe: ERROR: Module snd_hda_intel is in use
[02:25] <escott> trying2work, if you open your webbrowser and type in the location bar "localhost:631"
[02:25] <escott> trying2work, you will get a web interface to the printer queue that may provide more debugging options
[02:25] <HareyJ> There we go..
[02:26] <wawowe> SomeGuy303-2: lsmod | grep snd
[02:26] <nydel> does the nvidia tweaker thing work on non-nvidia cards? mine is an intel built-in graphics board & i'm doing dual monitors, my laptop & an hdmi out
[02:26] <trying2work> escott: My printer was properly added. It was working before, and it works from another computer with ubuntu 11.10 (where I used exactly the same method for connecting to the printer)
[02:26] <wawowe> SomeGuy303-2: have to rmmod all of those on the left
[02:26] <wawowe> SomeGuy303-2: including soundcore
[02:27] <Areckx> http://paste.ubuntu.com/991701/
[02:27] <HareyJ> wawowe: I did a quick re-installation as it turns out my partitions were all screwed up, and this time I didn't check the "install 3rd party software" box and the nvidia drivers are not installed.. and X is fine for the moment..
[02:29] <wawowe> HareyJ: you could try getting the most recent nvidia driver, if it's a bug the the one in the repository
[02:29] <menturi> escott:  Does this look correct & reasonable to you? http://dl.dropbox.com/u/53794511/Images/0516022226.jpg
[02:29] <trying2work> escott: Here is my /var/log/cups/error_log file http://paste.ubuntu.com/991702/
[02:29] <L3top> Anybody know how to reassign media button controls (XF86Audio*) to alsa? My laptop controls don't seem to be tied to anything with a volume meter (in alsamixer). xev shows they are working (as expected due to HUD).
[02:30] <HareyJ> wawowe: Yeah, I could see that there was an updated one, but obviously I couldn't get it to install from X without it crashing before the process hardly started..
[02:30] <SomeGuy303-2> wawowe: all report to be in use...
[02:30] <wawowe> L3top: xbindkeys
[02:30] <L3top> ty wawowe.
[02:30] <escott> menturi, not exactly
[02:30] <wawowe> SomeGuy303-2: they all depend on each other
[02:31] <wawowe> SomeGuy303-2: if you're playing music or something stop it, or: lsof | grep snd
[02:31] <escott> menturi, this are no extended partitions. everything is primary. that would imply gpt. which would imply uefi? is this a uefi system?
[02:31] <escott> trying2work, none of those errors would seem to be related to a print failure
[02:32] <escott> trying2work, why dont you try and print something and then check what tail /var/log/cups/error_log says
[02:32] <HareyJ> I am seeing odd errors in my console regarding sdc, which to my knowledge I don't have..
[02:32] <trying2work> escott: sure, lemme try that
[02:33] <wawowe> HareyJ: check your computer for flash drives haha
[02:33] <HareyJ> oh wait, maybe that's my dvdrom drive, but it's not in use..
[02:33] <HareyJ> nope, nothing plugged in
[02:33] <menturi> I thought I selected 'logical' instead of 'primary'. I wanted to do what you suggested before, with 'extended' and logical sub-partitions i guess you could call them. I am unsure what 'uefi' means.
[02:33] <bluesnow> Hi, I'm having a DNS server problem. I can ping 127.0.0.1 and my default route, but I can't ping any DNS servers.
[02:34] <bluesnow> I've turned off firewall/cleared DNS cache/turned off SELinux
[02:34] <escott> menturi, is your system brand new? does the "bios" setup screen support the mouse, is it particularly colorful
[02:34] <trying2work> escott: this is what it gives http://paste.ubuntu.com/991709/
[02:34] <escott> trying2work, nothing new or interesting there
[02:35] <trying2work> escott: by the way there are so many people who have had similar problems, but there is no solution found as yet
[02:35] <wawowe> SomeGuy303-2: do this: lsmod | grep snd | cut -c -18 | xargs rmmod
[02:35] <escott> trying2work, im not much of an expert on printing. last time i printed something was a few years ago
[02:35] <menturi> escott:  No, I do not believe so.
[02:35] <bluesnow> any idea what could be the reason for being unable to ping dns servers?
[02:35] <wawowe> SomeGuy303-2: until all the modules are unloaded
[02:36] <trying2work> escott: anyway thanks for your time
[02:36] <wawowe> SomeGuy303-2: then rmmod soundcore
[02:36] <escott> menturi, maybe they surpres the listing of the extended so as not to confuse people. im not familiar with that screen
[02:37] <escott> menturi, i guess just go ahead
[02:37] <K-Rich> Yo
[02:37] <HareyJ> I'm gonna try upgrading to the nvidia driver, but just in case, how do I downgrade back to this.. nouveau driver from the console?  apt-get install ?
[02:38] <wawowe> SomeGuy303-2: after that you can make a script that will run that as many times as needed, then modprobe  snd_hda_codec_hdmi snd_hda_intel
[02:38] <menturi> My friend will be available soon. I will be talking to him in a bit. Thank you much for your assistance you were a great help :)
[02:38] <HareyJ> Turns out my 'sdc' is the SD/MMC/MS/XD card reader slot, odd that it's doing things when there's not even a card in it.
[02:38] <wawowe> SomeGuy303-2: so you can just type revive whenever you need to revive your sound card
[02:39] <escott> HareyJ, those are fun devices you usually end up with sdc/sdd/sde/sdf...
[02:39] <wawowe> SomeGuy303-2: should add something for killing any process using the sound card too
[02:39] <HareyJ> [sdc] Asking for cache data failed
[02:39] <HareyJ> [sdc] Assuming drive cache: write through
[02:40] <HareyJ> endlessly.  on my damn terminal windows!
[02:40] <SomeGuy303-2> wawowe: no love on the rmmod: ERROR: Module snd_hda_codec_hdmi is in use
[02:41] <HareyJ> [sdc] Test WP failed, assume Write Enabled
[02:41] <SomeGuy303-2>  wawowe: says that for all of the modules
[02:41] <wawowe> SomeGuy303-2: what does lsof | grep snd say
[02:42] <wawowe> HareyJ: apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
[02:43] <wawowe> HareyJ: and edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf to use that driver
[02:43] <SomeGuy303-2> wawowe, about 9 lines
[02:44] <cmecca_> hi all --- is it possible to put unity 'dash home' top icon into the menubar instead of leaving it on the dock as i see in some screenshots, in unity 2D?  or is this a 3D only function..
[02:44] <XX> can u open steam through ubuntu?
[02:45] <HareyJ> wawowe: there is no /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:45] <L3top> HareyJ: I would also recommend apt-get remove nvidia* as well if you are going back to nouveau
[02:45] <Logan_> XX: With Wine, yes.
[02:45] <XX> im trying to figure thsi out now
[02:45] <XX> also
[02:46] <XX> is the new ubuntu worth it ?
[02:46] <wawowe> SomeGuy303-2: lsof | grep snd | awk '{print $2}' | sort -u | xargs kill -9
[02:46] <nydel> i finally got things to open to my primary display if anyone wants to know how.
[02:46] <L3top> HareyJ: In fact I would purge.... those two fight for frame buffer.
[02:46] <XX> or do i keep the one i have?
[02:46] <Logan_> XX: Or PlayOnLinux.
[02:46] <Logan_> XX: Which version are you running?
[02:46] <XX> 11.10
[02:46] <XX> one oh thrix or something :p
[02:46] <wawowe> HareyJ: go to the console (ctrl+alt+f1) and type service lightdm stop
[02:46] <XX> what is playonlinux :O
[02:47] <wawowe> HareyJ: then Xorg -configure
[02:47] <wawowe> HareyJ: as root btw
[02:47] <Logan_> !playonlinux | XX
[02:47] <Logan_> hmph
[02:47] <wawowe> HareyJ: then cp /root/xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:47] <lihongwu> Hi,all. May I ask which program provide the command "dpkg-depcheck", please?
[02:47] <XX> im downloading it now
[02:47] <XX> also
[02:47] <XX> im checking how to run steam on li nxu
[02:47] <HareyJ> which reminds me, how exactly does one login as root on this thing?  pure sudo all the way?  how annoying.
[02:48] <Logan_> lihongwu: sudo apt-get install devscripts
[02:48] <L3top> sudo -s or -i HareyJ
[02:48] <lihongwu> Logan_: Oh, thank you.
[02:48] <cmecca_> is it possible to put the 'dash home' ubuntu icon in the menubar in unity?  i see it in some screenshots
[02:48] <Logan_> lihongwu: No problem.
[02:49] <cmecca_> or must it remain a icon.
[02:49] <randomDude> i have 10 12.04 desktop machines here at work which are using ldap login, user authentication suceeds however there is only a black screen with a cursor. i think i had this problem with 11.10 as well. but i can not remember how to solve it.
[02:49] <bohemian9485> !playonlinux
[02:50] <Logan_> !info playonlinux | bohemian9485
[02:50] <XX> . After wine is done being installed, run wine iexplore http://winehq.org and install Gecko. Now copy over tahoma.ttf font from a Windows install or off the internet to ~/.wine/drive_c/windows/fonts/.
[02:50] <Logan_> bohemian9485: http://www.playonlinux.com/en
[02:50] <XX> what does that mean?
[02:50] <XX> how do i rune WINE iexplore http://winehq.org
[02:50] <XX> ?
[02:50] <Logan_> XX: Where are those instructions from?
[02:51] <randomDude> !enter
[02:51] <XX> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuMagazine/HowTo/InstallingSteam
[02:51] <Logan_> XX: You don't need to do that. Just download PlayOnLinux. There's a setup wizard for Steam.
[02:51] <L3top> XX sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
[02:51] <L3top> XX I would think installing wine would have them as a depends though...
[02:52] <XX> oh
[02:52] <XX> wait i just downloaded playonlinux. And now, i do sudo apt-get install msttcorefronts?
[02:53] <XX> omigod omigod omigod THERE IS METAL SLUGGGGGGGGGGG HOLY SHIETTT
[02:54] <XX> i worship u logan_
[02:54] <L3top> XX I would, again, think you already have them if you have wine... you can look in /usr/share/fonts/truetype
[02:54] <Logan_> XX: Haha.
[02:54] <upset> Question: Is emerald resource-intensive? Especially compared to Metacity panels
[02:55] <wylde> !emerald | upset
[02:55] <upset> wylde: Woah. Why do people keep writing Emerald themes then?
[02:55] <upset> wylde: Especially incredibly attractive ones
[02:56] <L3top> upset: because it is use at your own risk doesn't mean it isn't going to work... just means... if you hit a problem, we can't help.
[02:56] <XX>  logan_ http://pastebin.com/VH7Jm7xq
[02:57] <HareyJ> *crosses fingers*
[02:57] <Logan_> XX: I wouldn't worry about the fonts.
[02:57] <upset> Okay, none of your answers have anything to do with my original question.
[02:57] <upset> Is it a resource-intensive window decorator as compared to metacity?
[02:58] <L3top> It is not supported. That is the answer here.
[02:58] <upset> L3top: That is a non-answer.
[02:58] <L3top> Because it is a non-question in A SUPPORT ROOM
[02:59] <HareyJ> Duh.
[02:59] <upset> L3top: There's no need to be rude, at all.
[02:59] <L3top> I am not trying to be rude. I found your follow up rude.
[03:00] <cmecca_> Czar: thats my dogs name
[03:00] <cmecca_> :P
[03:00] <HareyJ> omg it's back to the days of windows, I need to restart my computer after installing a driver! ;)
[03:00] <Czar> Hi..looking for help trying to install Graphic Driver...ubuntu 11.10  Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960  Sony Vaio VGN NR220E
[03:00] <upset> L3top: Whether or not it's old and unmaintained has nothing to do with resource usage and I'm not concerned with whether or not Canonical supports it because this is not Canonical's channel.
[03:00] <upset> L3top: If you don't know, you don't need to answer.
[03:01] <HareyJ> upset: dude, he doesn't know the answer, and quite frankly who would?  just let it go.
[03:01] <L3top> You are asking for a technical comparison in a support channel of a non supported manager addon. I don't see why you dont understand.
[03:01] <XX> I have to say logan_ that steam is working perfectly
[03:01] <XX> thank you so much again
[03:01] <Logan_> XX: Awesome. Glad I was able to help.
[03:01] <L3top> I know the answer... I reject the question on principal.
[03:02] <L3top> HareyJ: Like I said, they fight for framebuffer, that is why a reboot is required.
[03:02] <upset> HareyJ: I don't know, that's why I asked. I don't need some trivial back and forth though. It's unhelpful and unproductive.
[03:02] <wawowe> SomeGuy303-2: http://pastebin.com/c2sCm7Yw there's your script
[03:02] <Czar> where i can find the right channel.. for graphic drivers support??????????????
[03:02] <HareyJ> L3top: I recall, and I understand, just found it a little funny!  Thanks for the help.. I'll be back! (I hope)
[03:02] <Anarhist> hello, yesterday i gave live cd of the new version of ubuntu a try, i almost wanted to install it, but can somebody tell me this: will it be possible to make a panel on the left hide itself like it currently does for me... i'm on netbook and that little bit of space is very important
[03:03] <L3top> Czar: ask your question.
[03:03] <divbyzero> hello, is there any ncurses gui for iptables?
[03:03] <cmecca_> is it possible to put the 'dash home' ubuntu icon in the menubar in unity?  i see it in some screenshots
[03:03] <cmecca_> or must it remain a icon.
[03:03] <wawowe> Anarhist: i'm pretty sure that panel hides itself automatically
[03:04] <upset> L3top: You're absolutely silly and you're not a Canonical employee and whether or not it is maintained has nothing to do with anything.
[03:04] <Anarhist> wawowe, on the live cd it remained shown all the time...
[03:04] <Anarhist> wawowe, perhaps it's a bug i should report then
[03:04] <L3top> If you were polite you would have had your answer. I didn't claim authority, I just have no motivation whatsoever to help you.
[03:04] <TheAncientGoat> Man, I really, really wanted to like unity.. And I love the HUD.. But it keeps on freezing and giving me 99% CPU use with compiz
[03:04] <upset> L3top: You don't even know what version of Ubuntu I'm using. For all you know I'm using a release for which Emerald works perfectly.
[03:04] <Czar> L3top the additional drivers doesnt recognizes any graphical dirver!!!
[03:04] <wawowe> Anarhist: i don't know about 12.04, but when i initially installed 11.10 it hid itself
[03:05] <L3top> Czar: lspci -nn | grep VGA
[03:05] <TheAncientGoat> Also, it makes my GPU run at 80C and is a bit.. laggy for my 2007 laptop
[03:05] <Anarhist> wawowe, yes, on 11.* it does, but i tried 12.04 live cd... that's what i'm talking about
[03:05] <HareyJ> upset: You're being a jerk is what you're doing. I've done more than enough support work myself to know that.
[03:05] <TheAncientGoat> So, lets hope Gnome3 is less crashy..
[03:05] <upset> L3top: Before it's principle, now it's a personal issue? Just don't answer if you don't know or don't want to help. I'm really offended by your conduct.
[03:06] <wawowe> Anarhist: i got rid of unity right away, so i don't know if it's like that in 12.04, but i'd assume, and if it's not i'm sure there's an easy way to enable it
[03:06] <upset> HareyJ: If you're like this guy you're about as helpful as a doctor that smacks you when you talk.
[03:06] <L3top> The principal is because of your attitude and sense of entitlement to an answer on an unsupported install in a support channel... yes... now shoo. I'm done with you.
[03:06] <Czar> L3top   Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960
[03:07] <omac> i just updated to 12.04 and the left launcher bar auto-hides.
[03:07] <upset> L3top: I will gladly get out of here. You're  so high up on that horse that you're hard to hear.
[03:07] <L3top> Czar, that is not the output of what I gave you... but regardless, what version of ubuntu are you on?
[03:08] <bluesnow> Hi, I'm having internet connection problems
[03:08] <bluesnow> I can ping myself but can't ping any DNS servers, and nslookup is returning connection timed out, no servers could be reached
[03:08] <omac> upset what's yr question?
[03:09] <L3top> Yes upset... that is why I spend countless hours in here helping people for absolutely nothing. Because I am... uppity.
[03:09] <bluesnow> Any idea how to fix this? I've turned off firewall, SELinux, etc, but still can't ping any DNS servers or other websites
[03:09] <Czar> L3top: 11.10  output: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (primary) [8086:2a02] (rev 0c)
[03:09] <omac> your ip isnt in the same subnet/mask as your router.
[03:09] <randomDude> upset: 1. it is more resource intensive, 2. this is infact canonicals channel
[03:09] <upset> omac: Thanks for offering help, but I think I'll search for the answer elsewhere.
[03:10] <wawowe> bluesnow: try to ping your router
[03:10] <Danny> so i just tried duel booting win 7 with ubuntu installation went fine but now i cant get to my ubuntu side grub or w.e is missing or something like i dont get that purple background thing that lets me choose wether i want to boot up windows or ubuntu
[03:10] <randomDude> i have 10 12.04 desktop machines here at work which are using ldap login, user authentication suceeds however there is only a black screen with a cursor. i think i had this problem with 11.10 as well. but i can not remember how to solve it.
[03:10] <krababbel> Danny: what do you get?
[03:10] <upset> L3top: Wow, really? You're not going to argue your way into making me believe you're better than me.
[03:10] <Danny> krababbel: just boots into windows everytime
[03:10] <omac> bluesnow: dhclient
[03:10] <L3top> !info i965-va-driver ocelot
[03:11] <wawowe> upset: i'm better than you
[03:11] <krababbel> Danny: you have to reinstall grub again
[03:11] <Danny> krababbel: how do i do this ?
[03:11] <upset> wawowe: Noted
[03:11] <krababbel> Danny:
[03:11] <bluesnow> ping 192.168.0.1 (default route) works for me
[03:11] <L3top> upset, If defending myself against your assault of character means to you that I think I am better than you, you have issues that cannot be supported in irc.
[03:12] <krababbel> Danny: ubuntu forum thread number 1902362
[03:12] <L3top> !info i965-va-driver oneiric
[03:12] <wawowe> bluesnow: route add default gw 192.168.0.1
[03:12] <wawowe> bluesnow: ping 4.2.2.1
[03:13] <L3top> Czar: sudo apt-get install i965-va-driver
[03:13] <escott> !grub | Danny
[03:14] <bluesnow> wawowe: ping 4.2.2.1 returns destination host unreachable
[03:14] <Emerling> o/ How put mootbot in my ubuntu channel
[03:14] <Emerling> ?'
[03:14] <Czar> L3top: bash: !info: event not found...... ok installing driver
[03:14] <wawowe> bluesnow: but you can ping your router and you added that default gateway?
[03:14] <L3top> Czar: sorry that was just for the bot, wasnt sure in 11.10 if it was i965-va-driver or libva-driver-i965
[03:14] <omac> blues: ifconfig
[03:15] <wawowe> bluesnow: can you ping anything else on your network?
[03:16] <yanncarlier> j
[03:16] <omac> what router model brand doyou have?
[03:16] <yanncarlier> no
[03:17] <Czar> L3top: so what i do ??? should i cont. with the driver installation?
[03:17] <L3top> omac: you can begin typing a nic and hit tab to complete it, or reuse the last one. Much easier.
[03:17] <L3top> Czar: yes
[03:18] <bluesnow> omac: what am I looking for under ifconfig?
[03:18] <bluesnow> wawowe: I can only ping 127.0.0.1 now
[03:18] <omac> wlan0 or eth 0
[03:18] <L3top> can you pastebin the output bluesnow? (installing pastebinit might not be a bad idea)
[03:19] <bluesnow> omac: it has a listing for both eth0 and wlan0
[03:19] <L3top> !pastebinit | bluesnow
[03:19] <Czar> L3top: install done
[03:20] <omac> paste the resuot into pastebin
[03:20] <L3top> Czar then you have the intel driver and the accelleration driver enabled. Should have great experience.
[03:20] <Boyo> Can anyone help with an Ubuntu installation problem?  I can't event get the install DVD to boot
[03:20] <Czar> L3top: just installed the i965-va-driver! not the livba driver .. its that ok???
[03:20] <bluesnow> Can't paste because linux desktop doesn't have internet
[03:20] <escott> Boyo, details please
[03:21] <omac> boyo try f8 key
[03:21] <Boyo> I see the error message "error: prefix not set" and then garbled text
[03:21] <wawowe> bluesnow: ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.23; route add default gw 192.168.0.1; echo "nameserver 192.168.0.1" >> /etc/resolv.conf
[03:21] <L3top> Czar: yes... there is only one... it was renamed. I was just trying to get the bot to tell me which name it was in oneiric
[03:21] <bohemian9485> bluesnow: type ifconfig in a terminal window and check the inet addr part.
[03:21] <Boyo> I selected DVD drive from the BIOS boot menu, so it is attempting to boot from the install DVD
[03:21] <omac> or f12 key key to see boot menu and select cd/dvd drive
[03:22] <Boyo> omac: This happens after that
[03:22] <bluesnow> it gives inet addr: 127.0.0.1
[03:22] <dr_willis> sounds like a bad burn or messed up iso file.  Boyo . tried it on other pcs yet?
[03:22] <bluesnow> wait on top inet addr: 192.168.0.2
[03:22] <Junior> HI EVERYONE, I NEED A LITTLE HELP HERE, MY DELL MONITOR GOES TO POWER SAVE MODE WHEN UBUNTU IS LOADING AFTER THE BIOS SCREEN, I TRY UPDATE THE INTEL DRIVER PLEASE HELP
[03:22] <L3top> bluesnow: DOH... sorry... of course you can't paste.
[03:22] <wawowe> bluesnow: you're on a wired connection right?
[03:22] <bohemian9485> bluesnow: does your router has dhcp server capability?
[03:22] <Czar> L3top: ok so that is the best graphic driver for my card... should i restart the sys??
[03:23] <Boyo> This is what I mean by garbled text: http://i.imgur.com/KZpXw.jpg
[03:23] <dr_willis> Junior:  dont yell.. and the system never comes back up? or what happens exactly.
[03:23] <Boyo> dr_willis: No, I haven't tried it on another PC
[03:23] <bluesnow> Both my wired and wireless connections aren't working. I've tried DCHP and manual.
[03:23] <escott> Boyo, there is a boot option for nomodeset use that
[03:23] <Boyo> escott: How do I use that
[03:23] <L3top> Czar: yes... I would expect you to have no problems going forward with video/etc
[03:23] <Junior> oh sorry, sorry i didnt notice my caps lock
[03:23] <bluesnow> The DNS server I'm using on my windows desktop right now is working
[03:23] <omac> bluesnow:  what bran and model number is your ?
[03:23] <Boyo> escott: I believe I am having this problem before I would even have an opportunity to use a boot option
[03:23] <wawowe> Junior: hit esc a bunch just before the loading screen shows
[03:24] <omac> router?
[03:24] <bluesnow> it's ubuntu 11.10
[03:24] <escott> Boyo, on the menu where you select install or check memory there are things at the bottom I think you want F5 or F6 and then pick nomodeset from the menu
[03:24] <bluesnow> oh
[03:24] <wawowe> Junior: edit the grub line and add -s to the end of it
[03:24] <Boyo> escott: I'm not getting that far
[03:24] <dr_willis> !nomodeset | Boyo
[03:24] <wawowe> Junior: then boot and it will bring you to a terminal
[03:25] <Czar> L3top: ok thank you i really appreciate your support and time...
[03:25] <Boyo> It does look like a video mode problem, but I can't even see the install menu where I could use a boot option
[03:25] <Junior> wawowe i have never edited the grub line before please instruct me
[03:25] <dr_willis> Boyo:  the boot options are befor the install menu
[03:25] <bluesnow> omac: it's an AT&T 2701HG-B Gateway
[03:26] <omac> byo b patient it takes time to adjust for video
[03:26] <L3top> any time Czar :)
[03:26] <wawowe> Junior: it shows you commands at the bottom, but it's "e", then add -s to the end of it, hit enter, then type "b"
[03:27] <wawowe> Junior: for the kernel line (the longer one)
[03:27] <Boyo> omac: So you think waiting will fix the video?  I can tell that the text is some kind of menu.  There is a highlighted line that moves when I use the arrow keys
[03:27] <omac> boyo wait 3 minutes and press enter a few times now and then
[03:28] <Boyo> omac: I can try that, although I won't be able to read what I am selecting
[03:28] <Junior> wawowe: i try to do the hitting ESC a bunch of time and nothing, i cant even get on a terminal, now please give me the commands i need to change that line on the grub you talking about, if you can and thanks wawowe
[03:28] <omac> bluesnow: r u thr?
[03:28] <bluesnow> omac: yes
[03:29] <bluesnow> omac: also, I've gotten the wireless to work with this router before. But it seems to randomly drop sometimes and stop working.
[03:29] <omac> roter make and modeel
[03:29] <wawowe> Junior: you hit esc right when you see the purple screen, before the loading bar
[03:29] <bluesnow> omac: router is a AT&T 2701hg-b gateway
[03:29] <blackmatrix_ny> is there a way to make seahorse request for password again when someone opens the console...i dont see any options
[03:30] <bohemian9485> bluesnow: i think your router is not giving out ip addresses to lease to client computers
[03:30] <dr_willis> blackmatrix_ny:  you mean the alt-ctrl-f1-f6 consoles?
[03:30] <none> can someone unban me from ubuntu-offtopic?
[03:30] <omac> flaky wifi dongl drvers smtimes,but not yet. focus router make modeo...what are they?
[03:30] <Junior> wawowe thats the thing you dont even get to see the purple screen right after the BIOS screen, the monitor goes to power save mode
[03:31] <bluesnow> omac: AT&T 2701hg-b gateway
[03:31] <wilee-nilee> none, got to #ubuntu-ops
[03:31] <blackmatrix_ny> dr_willis, i mean the seahorse gui for gnupg...is there a way to put password on it when it launches
[03:31] <krababbel> bluesnow: have you got this router from you isp?
[03:31] <omac> make and model?
[03:31] <omac> i
[03:31] <omac> k
[03:31] <wawowe> Junior: boot the ubuntu install cd
[03:31] <Junior> wawowe so i just kept hitting ESC to see if anything comes up, and nothing and i did it for a long time
[03:31] <wawowe> Junior: the framebuffer is what's causing it
[03:32] <wawowe> Junior: need to disable it
[03:32] <omac> now google the user manual
[03:32] <krababbel> bluesnow: if yes, ask them how to fix it, ubuntu's dhcp client isn't the problem i guess
[03:32] <Junior> wawowe ok im on it, i will boot from the ubuntu CD and we go from there, or i can acces the machine on SSH and tell me how to disablethe framebuffer
[03:32] <bluesnow> omac: the manual doesn't provide any other info about make and model
[03:33] <omac> find out what is the ip ofvthe router.  it is usually on the stickeunder the router
[03:33] <bluesnow> I was able to use the wireless about seven hours earlier today
[03:33] <omac> withe the user and passwd
[03:33] <mixolyd> can someone please help me get kubuntu up and running
[03:33] <wawowe> Junior: ssh would be faster if you've got it setup
[03:33] <dr_willis> Junior:  try tapping/holding the space key also.  very very early in the boot process theres a screen with a 'man=keyboard' image at the  bottom real real quickly shown. thats  when you tap the keys to get to the  option menmmus
[03:33] <mixolyd> posted here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1981503
[03:34] <goddard> I like arch because you never have to upgrade any way to do that with Ubuntu?
[03:34] <Junior> wawowe i dont get to see none of that
[03:34] <dr_willis> its grub/gfx day today on#ubuntu
[03:34] <dr_willis> goddard:  just never run the update tool...
[03:34] <blackmatrix_ny> this seahorse app has been quietly logging my passwords for almost everything...if i remove that and gnupg are there any adverse effects on the system ?
[03:34] <omac> bluesnow the make is at & t
[03:34] <goddard> dr_willis: then all my stuff is old
[03:35] <Junior> wawowe im telling you right after the BIOS screen, the monitor goes to power save mode right after
[03:35] <escott> blackmatrix_ny, you wont have a gpg agent
[03:35] <bluesnow> omac: the router's IP is 192.168.1.254
[03:35] <dr_willis> goddard:  yiou said you dident want to upgrade.. so that imples you woule be running old stuff..
[03:35] <omac> the model is 2701 blabla
[03:35] <omac> k
[03:35] <goddard> dr_willis: wrong
[03:35] <dr_willis> goddard:  you are saying things in a weird way then...
[03:35] <kronoman> hello, Im using a old pc (living in south america), should I use Ubuntu or Xubuntu? The PC is AMD Athlon(TM) XP 2100 mhz, 1,5 gb RAM, NVidia Geforce2 and 160 gb hard disk
[03:36] <goddard> dr_willis: i said i like arch cause i never have to "upgrade"
[03:36] <Junior> wawowe sorry that was for dr_willis
[03:36] <blackmatrix_ny> escott, would I need a gpg agent to push/pull files into a git repository that requires encryption ?
[03:36] <goddard> dr_willis: no you are reading in a werid way
[03:36] <bluesnow> omac: I can't ping the router either
[03:36] <Junior> wawowe im on ssh now what?
[03:36] <escott> blackmatrix_ny, do you want to be entering your passwords ALL the time
[03:36] <omac> bluesnow are you wired or wifi?
[03:36] <blackmatrix_ny> escott, yessss :-)
[03:36] <bluesnow> wifi
[03:36] <omac> k
[03:36] <blackmatrix_ny> escott, the list of passwords on that app is just plain scary
[03:36] <sunbird> anyone have wallpapers working on grub2? i _had_ it working under 10.04, but can't get it in 12.04.
[03:37] <escott> blackmatrix_ny, I would look into disabling your gpg and ssh agents then. should be fairly easy to do so
[03:37] <blackmatrix_ny> escott, i see it even saves pwds from chrome emails and stuff...does the browser use that to store passwords ?
[03:37] <omac> ifconfig wlan0  192.168.1.253
[03:38] <goddard> dr_willis: is there a way to always get the bleeding edge changes so you are technically always up to date without doing massive "upgrades"
[03:38] <escott> blackmatrix_ny, its a secure keystore. its a lot better than having those applications insecurely implementing their own keystore
[03:38] <omac> then: dhcient
[03:38] <omac> dhclient
[03:38] <bluesnow> omac: done
[03:39] <dr_willis> goddard:  the proper way in ubuntu to be as bleeding edge  without resorting to using source, would be to find PPA's for what you want to keep on the  bleeding-edge
[03:39] <omac> ping 192.168.1.254
[03:39] <wawowe> Junior: edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[03:39] <blackmatrix_ny> escott, but if you can't protect it with another layer of password when launching seahorse gui then it becomes a big liability
[03:39] <bluesnow> omac: I can ping it now
[03:40] <omac> ping google.ca
[03:40] <escott> blackmatrix_ny, it is protected with another password. but its usually choosen to be your login password. you can change the gnome-keyring password if you want a different factor to unlock than to login
[03:40] <bluesnow> omac: ping google.ca returns ping: unknown host google.ca
[03:41] <goddard> dr_willis: im on 11.10 and i know if i switch to 12.04 its gonna break something
[03:41] <blackmatrix_ny> escott, but what's to stop a thief from viewing your list of pwds after you have logged into your pc ?
[03:41] <dr_willis> 12.04 is working well for me. but ialways do clean installs
[03:42] <escott> blackmatrix_ny, whats to prevent them from dumping the contents of your processes to RAM and finding the password there? whats to prevent them from installing a keylogger on your user account? whats to stop them from ...
[03:42] <omac> go to opendns.com and add rthe 2 dns ip addeses to /etc resolv.conf
[03:42] <renode> what is the command to check what wireless driver you are using?
[03:43] <dr_willis> escott:  from looking at the post-it note on your monitor with your passwords written on it.. ;)
[03:43] <escott> dr_willis, everyone knows that good security requires the post it note be placed UNDER the keyboard
[03:43] <omac> or scroll up to the other answer someone ttold u about resolv.conf
[03:43] <goddard> dr_willis: a clean install every 6 months sounds like a lot of work
[03:44] <Krapaud> Test
[03:44] <goddard> dr_willis: what about all your settings
[03:44] <dr_willis> goddard:  i find the process rather trivial with a seperate home partition.
[03:44] <mr-rich> Hello. trying to set up a Ubuntu virtual server on vbox. Can I install guest additions?
[03:44] <dj_segfault> If I see a ton of unexplained hard drive activity, is there a command to show what processes are accessing the disk?
[03:44] <bluesnow> omac: which two addresses on the site?
[03:44] <goddard> dr_willis: not everything is saved in the home partition though
[03:44] <wolf35_> 大家好
[03:45] <dr_willis> goddard:  all my users impornt stuff is.., rest i can easially restore if i have custome  configs in other system dirs
[03:45] <wilee-nilee> !cn
[03:45] <omac> google opendns.com linux setup
[03:45] <escott> blackmatrix_ny, you are welcome to disable gnome-keyring, but then you dont have any kind of secure keystore. I don't think the existence of the secure keystore is such a great concern. giving someone access to a session under your UID is pretty much giving them whatever they want (if they know what they are doing). maybe if they don't know what they are doing then seahorse seems too easy but is that your adversary?
[03:45] <goddard> dr_willis: what about opt? and stuff you compile
[03:45] <omac> gn
[03:45] <dr_willis> goddard:  i rarely compile stuff to opt, havent needed to in ages
[03:45] <dr_willis> you can put /opt/ on its own partion if you wanted.. or back itup
[03:46] <escott> dj_segfault, iotop
[03:46] <dj_segfault> escott: Thanks.  I'll try that oujt
[03:46] <dr_willis> i also betatest andinstall lots of stuff for testing from in here, so in 6 mo time i got tons of stuff ive installed tht ive ran once.. and dont need.
[03:47] <goddard> dr_willis: yeah a fresh install is good for that
[03:47] <blackmatrix_ny> escott...but it would be so easy for say a friend who wants to quickly check the game score or some site on my pc and to take a quick peek at your list of pwds...
[03:47] <dr_willis> Be neat if Ubuntu coould save/sync your users home settings to your ubuntu one account. ;)
[03:48] <dr_willis> seen ways to set that up. but seems a bit unreliable.
[03:48] <escott> blackmatrix_ny, if those are your friends i wonder who your enemies are.
[03:48] <Piotr2> hello there. good evening everyone.
[03:48] <goddard> dr_willis: back in time does a fine job and i have a seperate partition for home but last time all the versions of my software changed and broke stuff i was working on
[03:49] <blackmatrix_ny> escott, im actually going to try similar thing next time I sit on somebody elses ubuntu machine...that's just human nature
[03:49] <escott> blackmatrix_ny, i would think that using the fast-user-switching would be a better idea. switch them to a guest account if you dont trust them. you may also be able to configure seahorse to request the password before displaying anything (thats really just security through obscurity but...)
[03:50] <escott> blackmatrix_ny, the other problem with disabling the agents is it means typing your password in more frequently. i can imagine a modern smartphone app that records the sound of keypresses and identifies predictions on what the keypresses are based on timing between the key strokes
[03:50] <blackmatrix_ny> escott, yea, now we are talking...so how do I go about putting the pwd on that seahorse thingy everytime it launches
[03:51] <keltus> hi, when I log into my newly installed Ubuntu 12.04 through the GUI login screen, it just turns black with a cursor. I can't do anything else. the non-UI stuff is working fine because when I do Ctrl-Alt-F1, I can log in and install stuff on the text-based console. any ideas what's wrong with the display manager?
[03:51] <Piotr2> Guys, I believe my hosts file is corrupted.
[03:51] <menturi> escott:  I have successfully installed Ubuntu onto the hd, however http://dl.dropbox.com/u/53794511/Images/0516022343.jpg I assume for the same reason as before. After restarting the computer from this point, this came up http://dl.dropbox.com/u/53794511/Images/0516022344.jpg . I suspect it is a list of options after a 'bad shutdown' (similar to Windows), but am not certain. Nothing is legible, and there are two, as you can see.
[03:51] <menturi> Selecting the first item in the list I would guess is normally starting Ubuntu, which resulted in the first image again.
[03:51] <blackmatrix_ny> escott, btw, i'm one of the minorities who prefer better security than simple conveniences like pwd saver
[03:52] <escott> blackmatrix_ny, so this would be the relevant bug report https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/seahorse/+bug/189774
[03:52] <Piotr2> My brother, somehow, blocked some websites here and I thought I'd fixed it, but still I can't connect to ThePirateBay.
[03:52] <Piotr2> Can you tell me how could him do that so I can fix it?
[03:53] <escott> blackmatrix_ny, another approach you might want to try (which would require some complex config) would be to put your master key on a usb stick (you could probably put the entire keyring on it) and then yank that usb stick prior to allowing anyone to use the computer (you would have to do something to tell gnome-keyring to lock the ring as well)
[03:54] <blackmatrix_ny> escott, so just to confirm, currently the seahorse app doesn't provide that feature (verification) right ?
[03:54] <blackmatrix_ny> escott, haven't wrote a bug/feature request for Ubuntu before...just making sure...and thanks for helping out
[03:54] <escott> menturi, the first image appears to be the same panic (b43) as before and would require the same fix (b43.blacklist=yes) the second might be modesetting related so you could try "nomodeset"
[03:55] <bohemian9485> Piotr2: do you use a router?
[03:55] <escott> blackmatrix_ny, it was pushed upstream to https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=551036
[03:55] <blackmatrix_ny> escott, sorry...just seeing the link...somebody already has mentoned it :-)
[03:57] <sary> keltus: I'd start looking at ~/.xsession-errors & /var/log/Xorg.0.log .. and you could always reconfigure xserver-org , and reconfigure the display manager . either from tty or recoery mode.
[03:57] <escott> blackmatrix_ny, this reminds me of a website i set up. http only (because we weren't going to pay for a cert) and it wasn't crucial for the purpose. so to discourage password reuse I put the password box as a normal textbox. and then people freaked out about that
[03:58] <Flatlined> wireless question ! What does "iwconfig rate 1M auto" do ?
[03:59] <blackmatrix_ny> escott, hehe...you seem very liberal about pwds...Im really anal about it...if you worked for me and you came up with that idea I would have fired you on the spot :-)
[04:00] <keltus> sary: I found this report, and I have the exact same computer (Dimension C521) and exact same Ubuntu install as that person, so I'll try and install the nvidia drivers [http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1975140]
[04:00] <Phukuup> you mean everyone does not use biometrics?
[04:00] <dr_willis> gotta love it  when some trivial site demands you  use a 12+special characters password... just to keep your angrybirds scores... while the bank is ok with a much less paranoid password system
[04:00] <escott> blackmatrix_ny, what seems liberal about that?
[04:02] <blackmatrix_ny> escott, pwd in plain sight...so everytime a person places in pwd they have to make sure nobody is watching the screen next to them hehe...or tell them to close their eyes
[04:02] <escott> dr_willis, my favorite is when the bank calls me (credit card purchase flags in back office) and asks ME for the answer to my secret phone question. last time I did that I cursed them out for 20 minutes
[04:03] <escott> blackmatrix_ny, when the password is for angrybirds scores thats fine with me. point was to discourage them from doings something stupid like sending their Bank password over http. but since some idiot complained I switched it to the **** format and im sure some other idiot was sending me their bank passwords
[04:03] <blackmatrix_ny> escott, it's funny that the seahorse issue I mentioned was raised three years ago and seems nothing has been done so far
[04:04] <escott> blackmatrix_ny, its a difference of opinion. i don't think you will see a solution. if you value security you should NOT be letting people use your account
[04:04] <celthunder> escott: i get asked for id every time i use my card now and used to never get asked and my cards all get deactivated due to fraud at least twice a month
[04:05] <menturi> escott:  im not sure how to start ubuntu modifying command line like i did previously off the cd.
[04:05] <escott> celthunder, my point was getting a call from a number I do not recognize (and cannot confirm because caller id might be forged right?) and being asked for my password.
[04:05] <escott> menturi, then menu will be different. should be listed here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[04:06] <celthunder> escott: lol dont answer :) theyll make you call an automated system you cant verify thats even worse than the people
[04:06] <Phukuup> do this arp -A see if ya got an unidentified ip showing in there
[04:06] <escott> blackmatrix_ny, but if you are ok with it, you could a server I'll setup which you can ssh into. I can personally vouch for the security of it ;)
[04:07] <blackmatrix_ny> escott, i use a common pwd for non sensitive accounts like my nytimes login etc...but I don't want that junk pwd to be known either...letting people use your account is different when seahorse is there and when passwd is stored in like tradional unix safe house /etc/shadow...
[04:07] <sary> keltus: Do you happen to hae the same exact Graphic card chip as that person's machine.
[04:07] <blackmatrix_ny> escott, lol...ok
[04:07] <celthunder> blackmatrix_ny: because /etc/shadow cant be cracked right, that was done 20 years ago.
[04:08] <blackmatrix_ny> celthunder, which bit encryption you talking about being cracked ?
[04:09] <blackmatrix_ny> celthunder, $6$CwBddTop$bnSyhnkA0C/i7.QL65Ztwpu.I.BfkJhJT3rKAp1SxllJ.9I7rCwVzOA/JehMPA/yESj1ed7.A5yHU38sdMiQP    <----can you crack that, that's my root pwd :-)
[04:09] <blackmatrix_ny> celthunder, in /etc/shadow btw
[04:10] <bluesnow> hi, how could I change the subnet mask on ubuntu 11.10?
[04:10] <celthunder> bluesnow: ifconfig device netmask newsubnet
[04:10] <sary> keltus: lspci | grep VGA .. will determine your video card make and model , and lshw -C video will show more details.
[04:10] <bluesnow> I think the subnet mask is stopping me from communicating with my router, so I can't get wireless :(
[04:10] <bluesnow> celthunder: thanks
[04:11] <celthunder> bluesnow: or ip addr sholud be able to do it as well if yousing that
[04:11] <riex> Hello, I got a little problem. How do i add a new MAC-address in linux? because i have just changed netcard in my server. I hope someone can help me..
[04:11] <keltus> sary: I just did apt-get install nvidia-drivers and that seemed to fix it :)
[04:11] <keltus> thanks
[04:11] <Phukuup> latest nvidiea is 173
[04:12] <sary> keltus: Cool :) .
[04:12] <Phukuup> nvidia-173 sp
[04:12] <celthunder> blackmatrix_ny: if i had rainbow tables on my hdd with me i could probably
[04:12] <celthunder> Fleck: the mac changes automatically with the hw,  unless you were spoofing it
[04:13] <escott> celthunder, i thought the local salt made that near impossible
[04:13] <celthunder> escott: it makes it harder not impossible
[04:14] <celthunder> escott: salting only does so much and is /etc/shadow even salted? i dont think mine is
[04:14] <escott> celthunder, thats going to be a huge table then. 8 ascii salt characters and a 40 character hash space.
[04:14] <escott> celthunder, CwBddTop is his salt
[04:15] <blackmatrix_ny> celthunder, yea, after like maybe 20 years :-)
[04:16] <escott> celthunder, if im doing the calculation right your rainbow table needs to have 2^(64+320) entries
[04:16] <celthunder> blackmatrix_ny: in 20 years we will have no privacy whatsoever thanks to morons, and if we do it will be using quantum physics (hopefully)
[04:17] <blackmatrix_ny> celthunder, the underground express will always be humming :-)
[04:18] <bazhang> !ot | blackmatrix_ny celthunder
[04:18] <celthunder> riex: my above mac address thing was for you btw i misread your name
[04:18] <Phukuup> psycho telemetrics like telepathy will eliminate most of the current problems
[04:18] <Phukuup> as well as the need for ipv6
[04:18] <celthunder> lol
[04:19] <bazhang> Phukuup, chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:19] <celthunder> we will run out of mac addresses before ipv6
[04:19] <blackmatrix_ny> gn all...lights out
[04:19] <celthunder> bazhang: what was your question
[04:19] <bazhang> celthunder, take the chat to #ubuntu-offtopic . there was no question
[04:20] <Phukuup> !ubuntu 20.04 LTS
[04:20] <Phukuup> stoopit bawt
[04:20] <bazhang> Phukuup, stop that
[04:21] <bluesnow> I changed my IP address so I can ping my router now, but I still can't connect to sites for some reason
[04:22] <bluesnow> How can I get the value that the "gateway" should be set to for manual IPv4?
[04:22] <aot2002> bluesnow, What is your /etc/resolv.conf have in it for dns?
[04:23] <Phukuup> bluesnow default gateway?
[04:23] <aot2002> bluesnow, "route"
[04:23] <Phukuup> ifconfig
[04:24] <Phukuup> or route
[04:24] <celthunder> bluesnow:your gateway is the ip ut of your subnet check your router or layer 3 switch if you have one.
[04:26] <personaprospekt> how do i get the unity bar to only show up on one monitor and get the secondary monitor to automatically go to the side of the first instead of going to clone by default
[04:27] <aot2002> bluesnow, also see "route -n"
[04:28] <bluesnow> aot2002: route just gives me the gateway I assigned manually
[04:28] <bluesnow> aot2002: but I can't connect to any sites. I can only ping myself and my router
[04:29] <celthunder> bluesnow: so you can ping the router? thats your gateway..
[04:29] <Phukuup> bluesnow does ifconfig show the same default gateway?
[04:29] <dr_willis> personaprospekt:  whays your video card?  normally you enable xinerama for a 'wide' desktop spaning both monitors
[04:30] <aot2002> bluesnow, can you post what your /etc/resolv.conf file has in it for DNS servers?
[04:31] <personaprospekt> dr_willis: ati radeon proprietary drivers i have it in multiple monitor mode with xinerama off.  it wont let me turn it on even.
[04:31] <dr_willis> personaprospekt:  xinerama is what handles the wide desktop feaature. withotu it. i guess you are stuck with cloneing.
[04:32] <dr_willis> but i thought ati had a similernammed feature with more special 'features' - i rarely use ati
[04:32] <personaprospekt> dr_willis: even if i could turn it on it seems to reset all my graphics settings i have wide desktop working just it gives me 2 unity bars
[04:32] <aot2002> bluesnow, do a "cat /etc/resolv.conf" and let me know what's in it.
[04:32] <bluesnow> aot2002: /etc/resolve.conf has nameserver 4.2.2.5
[04:32] <dr_willis> personaprospekt:  this is in 12.04? i thought that was the default for a bar on each monitor. then they changed it befor final release.
[04:32] <bttf> im running this makefile but it cant find/read a file that works fine when read from manually
[04:32] <personaprospekt> dr_willis: every time i plug in the second monitor it goes to cloning once more, and yes there are bars on both monitors
[04:33] <bttf> the same command fails when in the makefile but succeeds whe ni do it
[04:33] <personaprospekt> dr_willis: and yes 12.04.
[04:33] <aot2002> bluesnow, change that to your router ip which should handle dns for you.
[04:33] <mr-rich> Ok, I'm setting up an Ubuntu web server. What is the best free (GPL'd) web control pannel software?
[04:33] <celthunder> Athanasius: 4.2.2.* is valid
[04:33] <celthunder> er aot2002 thats valid its opendns and works fine
[04:34] <menturi> I am stuck. escott I was able to go to recovery mode menu item, and then get to the shell/terminal/command line/whatever it is called (hehe), however I now don't know what do at this point to get ubuntu booting (with b43.blacklist=yes)
[04:34] <aot2002> celthunder, I'm aware it is.
[04:34] <celthunder> why use your router for dns? thats not what its for its for routing, which is what he cant do anyway
[04:34] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/130327/unity-on-both-screens-with-dual-monitors
[04:35] <aot2002> celthunder, the router should forward it off to the proper isp dns. I'm just seeing if there's an issue with the current dns settings.
[04:35] <bluesnow> aot2002: I changed the DNS server to my router's ip and it's still not working
[04:35] <menturi> Oh escott is no longer with us. Maybe somebody else can help me out. How do I boot ubuntu from the shell (but with "b43.blacklist=yes" added)?
[04:35] <dr_willis> boot ubuntu from the 'shell' ?
[04:36] <menturi> hehe sorry about my poor terms :P
[04:36] <Phukuup> sudo shutdown -r now
[04:36] <celthunder> menturi: shutdown -r now add that to your /etc/modprobe.d/ beforehand or add it to grub
[04:36] <dr_willis> at the grub menu, you can edit the boot line and append thsat b43.blabla  after the line - similer to 'quiet splash b43.xxxxxx'
[04:36] <aot2002> bluesnow, can you pastebin your ifconfig and "cat /etc/resolv.conf" output. I assume your chatting through the same internet connection that your attempting to run this on?
[04:36] <bluesnow> aot2002: Can't pastebin, I'm on a separate computer
[04:37] <Phukuup> wow
[04:37] <celthunder> bluesnow: whats your subnet mask and gateway set to currently and ip
[04:37] <celthunder> bluesnow: and routers ip on the port you are connecting to
[04:38] <aot2002> bluesnow, I guess you can't type it?
[04:39] <bluesnow> celthunder: my IP address is 192.168.1.7, netmask is 255.255.255.0, gateway is 192.168.1.254, DNS servers is 192.168.1.254
[04:39] <Phukuup> that should be working
[04:39] <aot2002> bluesnow, What's in your routing table?
[04:39] <bluesnow> aot2002: I can type it. it will take a bit. is there any specific part of the output I should type?
[04:39] <aot2002> bluesnow, no what you gave is fine that's what I wanted to see.
[04:39] <bluesnow> Phukuup: I manually assigned the IP address to myself. would that make it not work?
[04:40] <Phukuup> uh huh
[04:40] <celthunder> bluesnow: no unless you blacklisted the ip or put it in a vlan that cant route out
[04:40] <wylde> bluesnow: only if you have 2 devices trying to operate on the same ip
[04:41] <Phukuup> yup that would be my guess
[04:41] <aot2002> bluesnow, Just curious what is the ip address, subnet, and gateway of the computer your chatting with currently?
[04:41] <menturi> dr_jesus:  unfortunately my grub menu is litterally unreadable due to some reason it displays incorrectly. How can I edit the boot line once I get to that menu?
[04:41] <menturi> ( http://dl.dropbox.com/u/53794511/Images/0516022344.jpg )
[04:41] <Phukuup> menturi: why can you not just reboot?
[04:42] <menturi> Phukuup:  the kernel goes into a panic.
[04:42] <Phukuup> hmm
[04:43] <Phukuup> menturi: no 3rd party scsi involed is there?
[04:43] <personaprospekt> dr_willis: ok that works.  now how to make the current settings default i changed and saved all the confiigs as root but every time i connect and disconnect the second display it resets to clone
[04:43] <bluesnow> celthunder: my laptop is IP: 192.188.188.9 subnet: 255.255.255.0 IPv4 gateway: 192.188.188.1 DHCP server: 192.188.188.1 DNS 4.2.2.5
[04:43] <Phukuup> whoa different subnet
[04:44] <bluesnow> celthunder: Okay, just noticed that this doesn't match up with the router's IP.
[04:44] <menturi> this is a fresh install. i was unable to even install ubuntu without adding the b43.blacklist=yes part.
[04:44] <celthunder> Phukuup: thats ok, i have different subnets...
[04:44] <celthunder> bluesnow: you can have multiple router ips...in fact you SHOULD have at least 2
[04:44] <Phukuup> the router is doing dhcp
[04:44] <aot2002> bluesnow, bingo
[04:45] <celthunder> menturi: just add the blacklist to /etc/modprobe.d/ somewhere
[04:45] <bluesnow> Phukuup: I tried using DHCP auto for everything earlier, but it wasn't working
[04:45] <celthunder> bluesnow: interesting so it hands out invalid ips or  ?
[04:45] <bluesnow> my ubuntu desktop had wireless about 7 hours earlier today, and then after a reboot it stopped working
[04:46] <menturi> i guess it is time to learn how to open and edit a file via terminal :P
[04:46] <Phukuup> menturi: something is bad wrong with your boot image
[04:46] <bluesnow> celthunder: I'm not sure. I had everything on DHCP auto earlier and it worked. And then after a reboot it stopped working. I've rebooted multiple times since, and it hasn't worked again.
[04:46] <celthunder> menturi: vim or emacs preferred joe nano or ed are also usually around
[04:46] <menturi> Phukuup:  the drivers for the wireless card afaik is the cause... or something relating to the wireless... I don't fully understand what the issue is.
[04:46] <Phukuup> bluesnow because you set it to static maunally
[04:47] <bluesnow> Phukuup: I've set it back to DHCP a few times and rebooted, and it hasn't worked.
[04:47] <Phukuup> mm my upgrade seems to have stopped
[04:49] <Phukuup> maybe it's just slow
[04:49] <bluesnow> Phukuup: It's pretty fast when it works. But it's stopped working completely.
[04:50] <aot2002> bluesnow, Did you try "dhclient" from the command line?
[04:50] <menturi> celthunder:  silly question: is modprobe.d a directory or a file?
[04:50] <bluesnow> aot2002: I'll try that.
[04:51] <Phukuup> I wouldn't mess with the inits you got enough problems
[04:51] <mitchell> anyone compile ircd-hybrid to enable SSL here?
[04:52] <dosht> hi, I have gnome shell on ubuntu 11.10. When I change proxy with gconf it does not reflect to the network settings and it does not change the proxy. I'm trying to use pac url
[04:52] <Phukuup> nod eye
[04:52] <mitchell>  I'm looking for the series of steps to compile ircd-hybrid to INCLUDE SSL on a Ubuntu server
[04:52] <Phukuup> make install
[04:53] <bluesnow> aot2002: dhclient doesn't fix it either
[04:53] <Phukuup> prolly got a arg for -SSL
[04:53] <armence> Hello all. Where can I download the netbook edition?
[04:53] <mitchell> anyone have a link to a SSL enabled hybrid-ircd server ubuntu compiled package?
[04:53] <dr_willis> armence:  thats basically obsolete.
[04:53] <menturi> celthunder> menturi: just add the blacklist to /etc/modprobe.d/ somewhere << nevermind my last question; i was using cd incorrectly. i see various files in here; where should i modify what?
[04:53] <dr_willis> armence:  there may be some iso's of it still on the ubuntu servers.
[04:54] <armence> dr_willis, What's the recommended solution for ubuntu on netbooks then?
[04:54] <The> Have any of you ever seen a spaceship?
[04:54] <armence> dr_willis, Just normal ubuntu?
[04:54] <dr_willis> armence:  normal ubuntu 12.04 works fine on my netbook...
[04:54] <mardraum> ground control to major tom
[04:54] <dr_willis> armence:  the netbook edition and the regbular ubuntu  becvame the ssame thing about 3 releases back.
[04:54] <bluesnow> Oh, it's working now
[04:54] <armence> dr_willis, Thanks
[04:55] <mitchell> Phukuup, there's a devious series of steps to include SSL when compiling the source code of hybrid-ircd with openssl
[04:55] <bluesnow> DHCP + dhclient did the trick I think
[04:55] <aot2002> :)
[04:55] <mitchell> just wondering if anyone here has done it ?
[04:55] <bluesnow> thanks for the help :)
[04:55] <aot2002> Welcome
[04:55] <mitchell> anyone recommend a specific ircd SSL enabled server for me to try on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS ?
[04:55] <neo31> hello folks, please I need some help to enable iptables service on ubuntu 12.04, I have installed the package iptables but I don't have anyservice to make it run
[04:56] <dr_willis> iptables service? thought that was part of the default firewalling features
[04:56] <dr_willis> !info iptables
[04:56] <neo31> I had ufw and I have removed it to install iptables
[04:57] <dr_willis> last i looked ufw used the iptables tools.... but i dont do firewalling much
[04:57] <celthunder> mitchell: anything but unreal should be fine
[04:57] <dr_willis> iptables 'is standard' - that means its installed by default?
[04:57] <aot2002> dr_willis, yup
[04:57] <neo31> I just need to have something like /etc/init.d/iptables
[04:58] <aot2002> ufw just adds rules in iptables
[04:58] <neo31> humm
[04:58] <aot2002> neo31, Are you just trying to make sure it's running?
[04:58] <dr_willis> and iptables runs automatically if any rules exist... i thought
[04:58] <dr_willis> my router does all my firewalling these days. ;) im lazy
[04:58] <aot2002> dr_willis, you can take the firewall down
[04:59] <neo31> yes aot2002
[04:59] <dr_willis> sudo iptables --list        i recall shows any current firewall rules..
[04:59] <mitchell> I'm finding SSL is not easy to include nor setup for a Ubuntu based IRCD regardless of their ad's and descriptions celthunder
[04:59] <neo31> fine
[05:00] <celthunder> dr_willis: iptables runs automatically it doesnt automatcially load any rules and for default there really isnt any answer to that you decide when you compile your kernel and add your packages
[05:00] <neo31> it's running already
[05:00] <dr_willis> 'if iptables is running with no rules... is it really running..'  how 'zen' ;)
[05:01] <celthunder> mitchell: ratbox ircu and ng probably support ssl
[05:01] <Phukuup> holy cr** it was stuck waiting for me to restart stuff
[05:02] <celthunder> dr_willis: it makes sense...do you really want your firewall to load rules on reboot?  once you define your rules its easy enough to make it use them on boot but nobody really wants that by default
[05:02] <mitchell> I haven't tried ratbox yet celthunder, setup celsomething but can't get the SSL to enable on it either :(
[05:02] <celthunder> mitchell: ok where did you get your ssl cert from and whats the issue with it
[05:03] <celthunder> rather than saying it doesnt work what about it doesnt work
[05:03] <mitchell> celthunder, sadly hybrid-ircd got into a 'discussion' over licensing with openssl and stopped compiling the packages with it enabled
[05:03] <mitchell> celthunder it's a lot more than just compiling the cert's and keys but yes I've done those several times in different directorys celthunder
[05:03] <Phukuup> umm for future reference the upgrade for 12.04 does indeed stop at unpacking until you retart some services had I not opened the terminal to look I would not have seen that
[05:04] <aot2002> Phukuup, nice
[05:04] <Phukuup> I would still be waiting
[05:04] <mitchell> the specific issue celthunder is no SSL working with any ircd server I have setup, regardless of my creating and setting up the certs, pub.key files
[05:05] <celthunder> mitchell: what happens when you try whats the error
[05:05] <celthunder> mitchell: make it listen with ssl and give the error
[05:07] <mitchell> sorry celthunder, I can't find the exact SSL error as I'm currently on another box
[05:09] <Phukuup> I hope all these errors I am seeing in terminal are fixed before restart or my goose is gonna be cooked
[05:11] <celthunder> Phukuup: lol errors for what? make/configure?
[05:12] <celthunder> Phukuup: i would be more worried at not seeing make/configure error.
[05:12] <celthunder> as long as its not fatal it probably isnt too important
[05:13] <aot2002> Phukuup, just make sure it's 180+ degrees before you eat it.
[05:18] <HareyJ> Hey... what can I do about an Xorg -configure erroring out and saying "Number of created screens does not match number of detected devices." ?
[05:20] <Phukuup> revert to old xorg  cofiguration
[05:21] <HareyJ> there isn't one, it crashes when it tries to use the nvidia driver..
[05:21] <mitchell> anyone see/have any link to hybrid-ircd 7.3-SSL package for Ubuntu or .Deb ?
[05:21] <HareyJ> I don't know X well at all, I don't even know where the original is.. I was just told to do the configure in here earlier to fix a freezing issue
[05:23] <celthunder> HareyJ: nvidia has its own config util use that
[05:23] <celthunder> Xorg -configure is for open source drivers
[05:23] <Phukuup> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1486054
[05:24] <celthunder> nvidia-xconfig or something
[05:25] <HareyJ> Yes, I want to go back to nouveau drivers, the nvidia one is freezing my machine.
[05:29] <od--> Does anyone know why xorg-fbdev would only show contents on the screen after it has exited and display blank while running?
[05:30] <nanananabatman> How can I change the background of the login screen?
[05:32] <bluesnow> is there a way to change screen brightness in ubuntu 11.10? adjusting the brightness dial in screen is not working :(
[05:32] <erealz> can some on please help me troubleshoot a problem with my router?
[05:33] <erealz> i think it the router anyways
[05:34] <erealz> recently i notice i cant reach certin websites then wont load and i cant login to my shellaccount
[05:34] <erealz> but if i vpn first then try and load page it loads up just fine?
[05:34] <erealz> why is this?
[05:35] <erealz> anyone ever run into this problem?
[05:40] <celthunder> bluesnow: on the monitor or fn brightness buttons in a laptop
[05:52] <azl> route
[05:55] <alusion> How do I play .mkv on ubuntu?  What is the best converter program?
[05:56] <alusion> to convert mkv to avi on ubuntu
[05:57] <Syria_> >>>>
[05:58] <Syria_> hi
[05:58] <wilee-nilee> alusion, try winff
[05:59] <L3top> mplayer will play .mkv
[05:59] <L3top> You probably will need some codecs
[05:59] <Syria_> I connect to VPS via termial using this command ssh -D "port" @address, please help me to export this connection via ad-hoc wifi.
[06:00] <L3top> and vlc will play almost anything... there are some annoying changes in 2.X
[06:00] <wilee-nilee> vlc will probably play a mkv which is just a container anyway
[06:04] <adv__> enhance performance of Ubuntu by disabling unwanted things?? awaiting Ideas ??
[06:05] <dr_willis> i doubt if you will see much differance adv__  unless yoiu have very low end hardware
[06:05] <wolf35> hi
[06:05] <dr_willis> in which case. yoiiu may as well use lubuntu for the lightest desktop
[06:05] <adv__> I wish to run it from usb on Vbox
[06:06] <adv__> but certain programs dont run in light desktop
[06:06] <dr_willis> from usb on vbox?  You mean have vbox access a actual usb device? why not use a virtual hd:
[06:06] <dr_willis> adv__:  ive not noticed anything not working in lubuntu.
[06:06] <adv__> yep have usb3 11.10 was blazing 12.04 is slow...
[06:07] <adv__> will give lubuntu a try.
[06:07] <adv__> I wanted to run jfire server was not able to...
[06:07] <dr_willis> if you want the best vbox speeds. use a virtual hd image file. not a real device.
[06:07] <adv__> hmm
[06:07] <dr_willis> no idea what 'jfire' is.
[06:07] <adv__> ok
[06:07] <wylde> !mini | adv__: Install minimal and install only what you need?
[06:08] <dr_willis> !info jfire
[06:08] <adv__> ok thanks dr_willis , ubottu
[06:08] <adv__> never mind abt jfire..
[06:09] <adv__> wow havent seen minimal cd.... only 27MB
[06:09] <adv__> ought to try that
[06:09] <dr_willis> heh a full tinycorelinux cd = 10mb. ;)
[06:10] <adv__> does to give gui?
[06:10] <dr_willis> MultiCoreLinux = 35mb.
[06:10] <adv__> dont want to leave ubuntu...
[06:10] <dr_willis> both come with X and a minimal desktop
[06:10] <dr_willis> Ubuntu Minimal cd = just the basics - you then install what you want
[06:10] <adv__> have been with ubuntu since 6. something
[06:10] <dr_willis> basics as in - you get a shell...
[06:10] <adv__> ok
[06:11] <dr_willis> tinycore/multicore - is too handy to overlook ;)
[06:11] <adv__> will try it too
[06:12] <alusion> winFF doesn't even work..
[06:13] <adv__> dr, what is the craziest thing u have done with ubuntu?
[06:13] <bohemian9485> !info bluetooth module v2.1
[06:13] <dr_willis> i  belive winff needed me to tweak the terminal setting it used. for some reason it needed to be set to use 'xterm -e' instead of the x-terminam-application
[06:13] <dr_willis> i have been using winff for the last 2 weeks on and off in 12.04 - so it does work
[06:14] <dr_willis> arista is a nice alternative to winff also.
[06:14] <alusion> Thanks I will try that out
[06:15] <wolf35> hi
[06:15] <alusion> dr_willis do you help people with IT as part of your profession btw?
[06:15] <wolf35> who here
[06:15] <dr_willis> alusion:  nope. just a hobby
[06:15] <dr_willis> i dont use computers much at all.. in my normal job.
[06:15] <alusion> Very cool, I respect that. What is your normal job if I may ask?
[06:16] <dr_willis> I work for Chrysler - in a factory fixing machines...
[06:17] <alusion> I try not to get the two involved myself as I intended to use ubuntu for a more stable machine that I feel I have more control / ownership / manipulability and flexibility towards but I work mainly in the arts .. now I find myself obsessing over the OS more than I originally intended
[06:17] <dr_willis> i am seeing linux used in some of the CNC machines i work on. :) embeded in the controllers
[06:17] <alusion> Very cool, I was thinking about building a CNC machine myself. I always wanted to have a sort of "Creation station" since the technologies have brought it closer to a consumer market
[06:19] <alusion> What kind of preset should I use for converting mkv to something I can watch on the comp / android tablet?
[06:20] <alusion> something that plays friendly with either ?
[06:20] <dr_willis> with the right player - my android phone/fire can play most anything i throw at it.
[06:20] <dr_willis> arista has several  presets for android, as does winff
[06:20] <WotWhere> need help troubleshooting Ubuntu 12.04 installed on System, Bulldozer fx-8120 + msi 990fxa-gd65 mobo, driver problems i suspect, the realtek HD Audio driver was not installed, but worst the System hangs on clicking some links
[06:20] <dr_willis> moboplayer, or rockplayer on android plays most everything here.
[06:21] <dr_willis> theres even vlc for android now.
[06:21] <lmaowaffle> hi guys. Are any of you familiar with setxkbmap - more specifically, remapping capslock as control key? my .xinitrc directives had previously worked (months ago) and I'm assuming that there has since been a change in xorg. My .xinitrc had setxkbmap -layout us -model evdev -rules xorg -option ctrl:nocaps
[06:21] <alusion> yup I got the VLC, ima just load up the files on a external and try playing from there then
[06:22] <lmaowaffle> the command works manually after X starts at a terminal
[06:22] <lmaowaffle> the rest of .xinitrc loads fine at X startup
[06:22] <dr_willis> i thought the .xinitrc only  gotr read if you  used  the 'custom' X session from lightdm
[06:23] <lmaowaffle> dr_willis: I have symlinks setup
[06:23] <dr_willis> setup for what. You could use the .config/autostart (or was it autorun) directory
[06:24] <lmaowaffle> i forget the symlink.. .xsession perhaps?
[06:24] <dr_willis> i thought the gnome keyboard config tool had settings for those also. could be its overrideing them
[06:24] <lmaowaffle> something I gleaned from an ubuntu tut
[06:24] <lmaowaffle> i'll investigate that
[06:25] <dr_willis> I thought that.. .xsession/.xinitrc ONLY got ran when you used the custome X session from lightdm. they dont get ran when you use 'ubuntu' or 'gnome' or other sessions,
[06:25] <dr_willis> ie:  they dont get ran 'in in addation to' the normal desktop
[06:28] <lmaowaffle> i neglected to mention that I'm using slim (again, from tut)
[06:28] <lmaowaffle> that might make it easier for you to digest ;)
[06:29] <dr_willis> if you are going the .xinitrc route.. then you may want to controll everything from .xinitrc  have it do your commands, then start the window manavger/desktop you want
[06:30] <dr_willis> i imagine slim works the same way... if you select the ubuntu session, it runs the stuff defined in the ubuntu.desktop session file. it doent run that AND stuff from .xinitrc
[06:31] <dr_willis>  the .config/autostart directory has stuff that can get ran automatically for ubuntu, kubuntu, and gnome-shell. i think lubuntu and xubuntu also make use of the .config/autostart dir
[06:33] <adv__> recently observed mintos on distowatch, how is it?
[06:34] <dr_willis> Mint is not Ubuntu. :)  I dont see much need for me to use mint.
[06:34] <dr_willis> never really noticed much it did - thts normal ubuntu dosent do. perhasp a few tweaks or other defaults.
[06:35] <issri> is there any place where i can find initrd.gz and vmlinuz images of both amd64 and i386 versions separately?
[06:36] <issri> i mean without getting the whole iso image
[06:36] <dr_willis> the mini iso is like  a few dozen mb. may hav them
[06:38] <HeartUbuntu> just installed 12.04, the information window during the install, the gorgeous purple one with the twitter feeds, is there an application with that same theme for live twitter feeds? looked awesome!
[06:41] <issri> dr_willis: thanks. could you please provide me with a link address too?
[06:41] <dr_willis> i think that was just a special feature they did for the installer.
[06:41] <HeartUbuntu> is there an app in the base system to test my 3d?
[06:41] <HeartUbuntu> aww, ty willis
[06:41] <dr_willis> issri:  samew place the  normal iso files would be at. Ive neverreally used the mini iso
[06:41] <dr_willis> !mini
[06:42] <dr_willis> ive never gotten into twitter.. ;) just more mindless spammage from what i see on the twitter feedd on my phone
[06:42] <HeartUbuntu> the latest installer is so freaking sleak, and letting you do the customizations during install, beats playing freecell during install, lol
[06:42] <dr_willis> i get enough of that on IRC.    ;P
[06:43] <HeartUbuntu> lol, but i'd follow random people just to have that theme on my second monitor, lol
[06:43] <HeartUbuntu> i love the color scheme for 12.04
[06:43] <dr_willis> i always change to blue/grayish colors...
[06:43] <HeartUbuntu> nothing wrong with classic clean
[06:44] <dr_willis> Hot Pink and Lilac! ;))
[06:44] <brianpWins> I've got ubuntu 10.04 and have logged in with a user that should be in the admin group. I logged in via ssh key so i didn't need the p/w and should have sudo priv's. I don't for the life of me remember what my password is
[06:44] <dr_willis> always amuseing when new features  list 'differnt themes'
[06:45] <llutz_> dr_willis: people just like eye-candy, the won't use a linux-system to work with it
[06:45] <brianpWins> how can i verify I'm in the admin group and do something about the password issue?
[06:45] <dr_willis> id rather see more time spend in fixing little things.. then making a new icon set.
[06:45] <llutz_> brianpWins: "id" tells you
[06:45] <HeartUbuntu> hey, i use terminal too! good thing nowadays, i only need to use it minimally
[06:45] <MarkiteN> dr_willis: how to change the colors?
[06:45] <dr_willis> MarkiteN:  depends on  what colors you mean.
[06:45] <HeartUbuntu> i remember back in the day of redhat/mandrake, bah... installing my graphic drivers were a b****
[06:46] <brianpWins> llutz_: sweet i am in admin thanks
[06:46] <MarkiteN> dr_willis: the colors of panel, dashboard, and title bar..
[06:47] <dr_willis> MarkiteN:  i just use differnt themes from the webupd8 ppa and  so forth till i get the mixx i like
[06:47] <WotWhere> need help troubleshooting Ubuntu 12.04 installed on System, Bulldozer fx-8120 + msi 990fxa-gd65 mobo, driver problems i suspect, the realtek HD Audio driver was not installed, but worst the System hangs on clicking some links
[06:47] <WotWhere> Where can i check if the drivers are working correctly
[06:47] <HeartUbuntu> this time, i'm gonna try to use unity, but... things aren't categorized as efficiently as gnome2 classic mode, and i still feel like the dock that's all the rage isn't that efficient, just cleaner looking
[06:48] <dr_willis> i got a classic-menu-indicator applet for Unity that lets me use theold menus ;)
[06:48] <dr_willis> but i use the hud more and more to launch things.
[06:48] <HeartUbuntu> you get an icon in the top right asking for you to install proprietary drivers wotwhere?
[06:48] <MarkiteN> dr_willis: thank you
[06:49] <HeartUbuntu> ya, i'm gonna try to just stick with it and get used to it, if not, log into classic mode
[06:49] <WotWhere> HeartUbuntu: thanx
[06:49] <dr_willis> unity in 12.04 has some real neat features once you learn them.
[06:50] <HeartUbuntu> interface seems very much like osx, just not as good
[06:51] <dr_willis> icons on a panel...  gee.. thats been around befor OS-x ;)
[06:51] <HeartUbuntu> omg, doesn't let you move launcher from the left?
[06:51] <dr_willis> but i haventused apple in ages.. got rid of my PPC imac a few months back
[06:51] <dr_willis> HeartUbuntu:  not at this time.
[06:51] <HeartUbuntu> i have an old grape g3 in the closet
[06:51] <HeartUbuntu> :p
[06:52] <dr_willis> theres some unofficial hacks to move the launcher to the bottom. but thats not supported here.. and can cause issues.
[06:52] <dr_willis> HeartUbuntu:  it make an ok  'ssh' terminal box. ;)
[06:52] <HeartUbuntu> that was my turn off first time i used it, because i move to the left a lot, and launcher kept getting in my way, not to mention it wouldn't pop up right, sometimes get stuck, etc
[06:52] <Silversong> Hey guys, I got a quick question (new Ubuntu user here). I am trying to download Java from java.com to run Java Applets
[06:53] <Silversong> I downloaded the .rpm file and extracted everything, I see the Java folder
[06:53] <dr_willis> Left launcher panel is set to not auto hide by default any more.
[06:53] <dr_willis> !java | Silversong
[06:53] <Silversong> But the applets still don't load like I don't even have Java
[06:53] <dr_willis> dont use the rpm Silversong  thats not for ubuntu
[06:53] <Silversong> Oh...
[06:53] <Silversong> All right. Thanks dr_willis. I shall delete that
[06:53] <HeartUbuntu> i always try to google the proper apt-get commands for installing stuff rather than downloading packages, less of a headache
[06:53] <dr_willis> rpm = mandrake/redhat
[06:54] <dr_willis> deb = ubuntu, debian
[06:54] <dr_willis> the open soruced javais in the repos.. oraccles java needs extra work
[06:54] <HeartUbuntu> or... run synaptic package manager, search for something like "java" and read the descriptions of the packages
[06:55] <dr_willis> thats the open sourced java. in synaptic. which may not run all the java apps ... it depends on what you are runnijg
[06:55] <Silversong> Thanks dr
[06:56] <Silversong> :) Thanks
[06:56] <dr_willis> Thank Oracle for the added work we have to do now for java..
[06:56] <HeartUbuntu> any reason to run 64 bit other than utilizing more ram?
[06:56] <dr_willis> what a ...wonderfull... company
[06:57] <dr_willis> If your hardware supports 64bit -  i say use 64bit
[06:57] <dr_willis> not much reason to not go 64bit these days
[06:57] <HeartUbuntu> my pc supports 64 bit, just figured i won't get much of a boost and less headaches with 32 bit
[06:58] <dr_willis> i dont think the 'less headaches with 32bit' applys any more these days
[06:58] <HeartUbuntu> i'll try 64 bit next time
[06:58] <Silversong> dr_willis Do I need both JDK and JRE?
[06:58] <intore> hi, i have a debian server and ubuntu clients. The debian server has been installed in textual mode and the users on the client have their home directories on the server. After login on the clients using gdm appears the error "could not update iceauthority file". What must be installed on the server?
[06:58] <dr_willis> Silversong:  no idea.. do you need the java developers kit? :)
[06:59] <Silversong> I already have Eclipse
[06:59] <Silversong> I use that
[06:59] <Silversong> I just need something to RUN java right now for java applets in Firefox
[06:59] <dr_willis> If you are developing in java.. then you know more about java development then i do. ;)
[06:59] <dr_willis> jre = runtime enviroment
[06:59] <Silversong> fair enough, lol
[07:00] <Silversong> I'm still learning about java development. taking a class on that right now xD
[07:00] <dr_willis> i rarely code in anything these days
[07:01] <adv__> bye all
[07:01] <HeartUbuntu> gl silver, i did awesome in the most basic java classes, but bah, i'm too ADD for object oriented languages
[07:01] <HeartUbuntu> i envy programmers
[07:01] <Silversong> Lol, I'm learning Java, OOP and Web Applications
[07:01] <Silversong> In this ONE course
[07:02] <Silversong> My university has this course that focuses all of them, and I'm taking it over a summer session
[07:02] <HeartUbuntu> can't wait til html5 is the default over flash, this is the reason i'm reinstalling ubuntu, flash causes software problems with my windows internet, makes me get client side lag and disconnects
[07:02] <Marzata> Silversong: what uni?
[07:02] <Silversong> Marzata: Penn State
[07:02] <HeartUbuntu> sounds fun silver
[07:03] <knowj> Anyone have any idea what's happening with this SSH login (RSA key) http://pastebin.com/TBNUafxT (Ubuntu 12.04 clean install, newuser, ssh-keygen)?
[07:03] <Silversong> Yeah. Just one the first class yesterday. I'm really excited. Lmao, still a very nooby programmer, but chipping my way there.
[07:03] <Silversong> For the FIRST TIME I finally learned about how to make a GUI. Hahaha
[07:03] <Silversong> And I just got Ubuntu what, 4 days ago?
[07:04] <HeartUbuntu> nice to just focus in all of the during one semester, but hope they don't cheat you over the summer like my college did. prof gave us all the answers the to midterm and final, and all our coding, we had prewritten code to edit, i learned nothing
[07:04] <Marzata> Silversong: how much cost a year in psu?
[07:05] <Silversong> Marzata: I have student loans, so about 30K?
[07:05] <Silversong> It's very expensive, lol, but I see it as a form of investment. Learning a lot.
[07:06] <Marzata> Silversong: ah, 30 K USD / year?
[07:06] <Marzata> Silversong: ah, 30 K USD / year? for a state uni?
[07:06] <HeartUbuntu> if i had to do it over, i'd do first two years in community first
[07:06] <Silversong> Yeah it's the most costly state university in the country lol.
[07:06] <Silversong> But it's the best State University (not including those University Of... universities)
[07:06] <Marzata> Silversong: in Scandinavia Unis are free.
[07:07] <Silversong> Yeah I know. My friend's from Stockholm.
[07:07] <HeartUbuntu> i hope someday, there will be open source education as online universities get more popular, and you can just pay for rigorous tests to get a degree
[07:07] <Marzata> Silversong: isn't it OSU better than PSU?
[07:09] <HeartUbuntu> gnome3 installed in ubuntu by default?
[07:09] <mitchell> Generating pairs of strong Public and Private RSA encrypted key-pairs for your SSH Server/Client http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=58&t=97505&start=20
[07:09] <dr_willis> HeartUbuntu:  unity runs on top of gnome-3 yes. its a shell on top of it
[07:10] <dr_willis> !unity
[07:10] <dr_willis> !gnome-shell
[07:11] <Silversong> Marzata: Depends on majors. School of Engineering (for Computer Science and Computer Engineering, they're not, generally they're lower ranked, too)
[07:11] <mitchell> anyone running a ircd server under a Ubuntu server here ?
[07:11] <llutz_> !ot
[07:12] <Silversong> I can't get my Unity to run 3d. It's been Unity-2d. I'm trying to install the proprietary graphic driver. May need you guys' help later after I install Java
[07:12] <somethinginteres> I have bind DNS installed to tweak behaviour for specific sites. I want to make sure that my ISPs DNS is being used for everything else. /etc/resolv.conf shows 127.0.0.1. Does this mean I am correct in assuming it's using my BIND server for ALL dns queries?
[07:12] <llutz_> somethinginteres: if theres no other entry, yes
[07:13] <Alkan> Türkiye'den kimse var mı arkadaşlar?
[07:13] <llutz_> !tr | Alkan
[07:14] <wabbira> I'm trying to install Ubuntu from a disk I bought through OSDisk. Does anyone know how long "Installing system" should appear for? It's not making any noise, and the bar has been stuck at 80% full for a couple minutes now (I tried once before and waited 10 minutes).
[07:15] <Marzata> Silversong: so, for a B.Sc. you have to pay 90 K USD?
[07:15] <Silversong> 120K. It's 4 years here
[07:15] <HeartUbuntu> shouldn't get stuck like that unless maybe you enabled updates through internet
[07:16] <dr_willis> wabbira:  if downloading updates was checked.. it can take some time
[07:16] <somethinginteres> llutz: Damn. That may be fine if I can confirm that my BIND server is using my ISPs DNS to answer the queries. Dunno how else it could answer them since I have not specified a ton of info for sites only a few
[07:16] <wabbira> Oh - I unchecked "install 3rd party software" this time, but selected enable updates for flash
[07:16] <dr_willis> i alwyas check both :)
[07:16] <HeartUbuntu> you have a thumbdrive with at least 1 gig? you can try to download the iso and use LiLi to create a live usb boot installer
[07:16] <wabbira> i googled and they said uncheck 3rd party if it hangs
[07:17] <dr_willis> servers being slow - is not the same as hanging. ;) but it dosent matter a lot.
[07:17] <wabbira> oh god, please no - i spent 16 hours trying to get that to work, ended up shelling out for the disk.
[07:17] <dr_willis> uncheck both for fastesst install. and update later
[07:17] <wabbira> is it normal that it's not making any noise?
[07:17] <dr_willis> 16 hrs making a bootable usb? should take 4 min..
[07:17] <wabbira> no, kept running into problem after problem
[07:18] <wabbira> eventually got it to boot from the usb, but couldn't install
[07:18] <dr_willis> open a temrinal, ccheck 'dmesg' output. or the log files..  i guess
[07:18] <somethinginteres> llutz_, : Damn. That may be fine if I can confirm that my BIND server is using my ISPs DNS to answer the queries. Dunno how else it could answer them since I have not specified a ton of info for sites only a few.
[07:18] <dr_willis> i had 12.04 downloaded and installed in less then an hr on release day. ;)
[07:18] <dr_willis> torrents were real real fast that day
[07:19] <WotWhere> Hi All
[07:19] <WotWhere> on bootup.. before login screen appears...  i get errors
[07:19] <WotWhere> rebooted the comp to try ur suggestion.. No I do not get an Icon asking fro installation of propreitary drivers
[07:19] <WotWhere> I used jockey.. it says No Propreitary drivers are installed
[07:19] <WotWhere> while i was doing this.. i get .. Ubuntu has an internal error.. try restarting
[07:19] <FloodBot1> WotWhere: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:19] <WotWhere> In the Scroll window that appears
[07:20] <Miscni> morning all
[07:20] <dr_willis> WotWhere:  id  do a update and upgrade to make sure system is up to daate, then try jockey again
[07:21] <Silversong> Need a bit help here again. I downloaded that .tar.gz
[07:21] <Silversong> extracted it to usr/lib/jvm
[07:21] <dr_willis> Silversong:  what tar.gz? we have short memorys here...
[07:21] <Silversong> java
[07:21] <Silversong> the java file
[07:21] <Silversong> the JRE
[07:21] <dr_willis> I think i just used the ppa from the webup8 site. ;)  i dont recall what the java wiki page said to do..
[07:22] <Silversong> blah. i think i'll keep working on this tomorrow. it's 3:22 am here. too tired lol
[07:22] <Silversong> night
[07:22] <dr_willis> theres scripts out that automate setting up oraccle java
[07:22] <Silversong> yea
[07:22] <Silversong> I'll see the tomorrow. Thanks.
[07:22] <Silversong> :)
[07:23] <dr_willis> 3:22 here and i got another 3+ hrs of work...
[07:23] <WotWhere> dr_willis : dont have network access... have downloaded drivers for graphics will transfer to USB.. thanx
[07:25] <backyards01> what connector or card do i need to hook up a cisco 2600 to  WAN coming from a time warner cable modem with a RJ-45....   just got one to play around with...  ?
[07:26] <dr_willis> rj45 - isent that a normal network cable? or am my  getting my #'s wrong
[07:26] <Marzata> Silversong: how will it take you to pay back 90 K USD loans?
[07:27] <Marzata> Silversong: how long I meant ...
[07:30] <onceuponatime2> ll
[07:30] <wabbira> yay! it's working.
[07:30] <wabbira> thanks!
[07:32] <krababbel> backyards01: what comes out of the modem?
[07:32] <backyards01> An Rj-45
[07:33] <krababbel> backyards01: oh, ethernet? get an expansion card, from ebay for example. however those routers don't do pppoa or pppoe if you need it.
[07:33] <krababbel> backyards01: so it won't be able to connect to the isp, though i have dsl, maybe cable is different
[07:34] <VP> Besides being root by sudo -i, I can't change the permissions of an NTFS partition. Pl guide:)
[07:35] <Anarhist> hi, i've just tried installing 12.04, i knew it would be bad, but not this bad. the panel on the left side refuses to hide and stays open (it's a serious issue on netbook), upper left corner of the screen closes the program rather than starts the menu choser, and of course when i search for an application in unity it finds nothing
[07:35] <krababbel> backyards01: don't expect speed I heard too, throughput is said to be low. Nicely stable for sure.
[07:35] <llutz_> VP  ntfs is a non-unix filesyste, it cannot handle unix permissions. use mount options to adjust permissions (man mount)
[07:36] <backyards01> thanks krabbel. i had one fall into my lap and wanted to play around with it.
[07:36] <rtabhu> hello ubuntu
[07:36] <LarsN> what's the "proper" method of managing which services start on boot these days?
[07:36] <VP>  llutz_:Ok & thanks
[07:36] <VP>  llutz_: will try
[07:36] <LarsN> since both "service" and "init" both appear to be valid solutions.
[07:36] <backyards01> looks like i need to do a little more research and a little money for a card or something
[07:37] <dr_willis> Anarhist:  the left side panel hideing is set to not hide by default. its setable. and i have no issues with it showing on my netbook,  as for the rest. not sure. i dont have the same issues  here.
[07:37] <Anarhist> dr_willis, where's the setting?
[07:37] <nibalizer> Anarhist: in appearcance
[07:37] <krababbel> backyards01: if you have a router for the modem and if you can put that into bridge mode, knock yourself off. :) The card yes, plus a rollover cable for the serial port.
[07:38] <dr_willis> Anarhist:  no idea. i always set mine to always show. I do use 'myunity' to shrink the icon size down to 32.
[07:38] <dr_willis> or was that in appearances also..
[07:38] <dr_willis> be nice if the 'hud' could show speific settings/tabs also.. will have to try tht later to see if  it does
[07:39] <Anarhist> ok, thanks, i'll give that a try, after i figure out why i can't start find any application
[07:41] <backyards01> thanks again krababbel
[07:42] <sk1special> is there a * help me fix my gay wireless settings channel * ?
[07:44] <sk1special> or is anyone here familiar with motorola n dual band cable modem/routers
[07:46] <dr_Willis> time to try a new irc client on my phone, ;)
[07:52] <knowj> Can anyone see any issue with this ssh-keygen (apart from it not working): http://pastebin.com/4PyiWARg
[07:56] <mitchell> I think I posted the link for you to refer to sometime ago in reply knowj
[07:56] <mitchell> want me to look it up again for you knowj ?
[07:57] <proxinix> *dead*
[07:58] <sh0ck_wave> Hi peer
[07:58] <peertopeer454> Hola!!
[07:58] <mitchell> Refer to this knowj Generating pairs of strong Public and Private RSA encrypted key-pairs for your SSH Server/Client http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=58&t=97505&start=20
[07:59] <Hounddog> somehow my flash is still going mad... crashing and so on... disabled hardware acceleration and used flash aid...
[07:59] <mitchell> Readers should refer to that forum article if you are unaware of the massive spying scheme in the US via the ISP's starting July 12th.
[07:59] <Kalidarn> is there any way in Ubuntu to resize a window to 1/4th of the screen, ie like in KDE when you drag to a corner
[07:59] <mitchell> why do you have flash enabled Hounddog, a glutten for punishment?
[07:59] <Hounddog> to watch some videos at time :p
[07:59] <mitchell> perhaps use a D.E. which supports that, Kalidarn ?
[07:59] <Kalidarn> I'm aware that it has the 1/2 snap but that's not so useful on large screens
[08:00] <Hounddog> but yeah... whish they would throw out flash now that we can use the media tags in html
[08:00] <Kalidarn> mitchell: yeah i was wondering if that feature had been added to unity/metacity/gnome what have you
[08:00] <Kalidarn> i know that it was possible in KDE
[08:00] <Hounddog> webgl is running better then this darn flash
[08:01] <Hounddog> mitchell: and on top of it... i have a optimus card...
[08:01] <mitchell> KDE is the heaviest D.E. that I know of regarding everything + the kitchen sink thou, Kalidarn
[08:01] <knowj> mitchell: I don't understand why it's not working when the same method works fine in ubuntu 11.
[08:01] <mitchell> did you read that article I posted for you knowj ?
[08:02] <mitchell> could be it's installed in another directory or there's a ownership, chown and chmod problem, knowj ?
[08:02] <Kalidarn> yes i know mitchell but i was wondering if it was possible to do that in any other environments
[08:02]  * L3top thinks KDE looks thin in contrast to unity
[08:02] <cristen> Hi everyone, I need help with Nvidia drivers. I downloaded them for the GT 540M. But when I start the .run script it says that it didn't find the kernel-devel or kernel-source. I tried to add --kernel-source-path "/usr/src/linuxXXX" path but didn't work either. Any help ?
[08:03] <Hounddog> unity... i somehow did not like it whatsoever...
[08:03] <mitchell> I would think so with Gnome 3.x Kalidarn however this box's graphic chips don't like Gnome 3.x so I can't help ya on that
[08:03] <L3top> cristen: you shouldnt need to download the drivers from nvidia. The nvidia-current driver is 195.40 which supports your card
[08:04] <mitchell> knowj have you checked the ownership of your public and key RSA files ?
[08:04] <knowj> mitchell: I'm in the process of reading it now. I've chmod and chown all the correct directories..
[08:04] <Hounddog> mitchell: got any more advises on flash maybe? beside cursing it :p
[08:04] <cristen> L3top, I need proprietary drivers to play Heroes of Newerth
[08:04] <L3top> !nvidia-current
[08:04] <L3top> !info nvidia-current
[08:04] <L3top> cristen that is the proprietary driver
[08:05] <cristen> how can I check if I have this one ?
[08:05] <mitchell> Hounddog, I prefer noscript in firefox if you want to play with flash video's
[08:05] <Hounddog> noscript?
[08:05] <L3top> whatever you downloaded is also going to be in the 295 range. cristen apt-cache policy nvidia-current
[08:06] <Kalidarn> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=TRIyqLrwXVY#t=4s that's what I'm trying to do in GNOME
[08:06] <mitchell> it's a free firefox addon which allows you to carefully fine tune java script and flash code Hounddog
[08:06] <L3top> wait... cristen... sorry what version ubuntu are you on?
[08:06] <cristen> latest
[08:06] <Hounddog> let me have a look at it, thx
[08:06] <mitchell> anyone compile hybrid-ircd to enable SSL ?
[08:06] <L3top> then yeah...
[08:07] <mitchell> anyone setup a SSL enabled ircd server on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS here ?
[08:08] <cristen> well the game launches, but when I try to launch a private game it crashes, so I tried with bumblebee (because I'm running on an Optimus system) I get the following error : Cannot access secondary GPU
[08:09] <vidb> hello
[08:10] <vidb> I want to copy a folder from a server to an other one using ftp, how can I do that please?
[08:11] <dr_Willis> vidb: with a ftp client would be the normal way. best to use ssh/scp  if you can
[08:11] <dr_Willis> nautilus file manager has a ftp client feature
[08:12] <dr_Willis> !ftp
[08:12] <vidb> dr_Willis: I don't have a graphic interface in the server, is there any way to copy using command lines?
[08:12] <codekK> hi, anyone can help me? i install ubuntu 12.04 and i have problems with my nvidia graphic... I solved it but now my "shutdown" button is like a updates need reboot... but i restart a lot of times and button cotinue.. :S:S
[08:13] <dr_Willis> i use 'mc' as my cli ftp client.. when i need one.. which has not been for years
[08:13] <mitchell> ftps or ftp over ssl tunnel/shell
[08:13] <mitchell> !ftps
[08:13] <dr_Willis> or setup that fuse-ftp tool and use the normal file copy commands
[08:14] <vidb> fuse-ftp ?
[08:14] <dr_Willis> but if the servers can do ssh/scp    then scp makes it muuch easier.
[08:14] <vidb> what is that?
[08:14] <dr_Willis> !info fuse
[08:14] <smw> vidb, the way I would do that is ssh to one and lftp from one to the other
[08:14] <dr_Willis> fuse = lets you have all sorts of neat 'special' filesystems
[08:15] <vidb> well I already found a way to connect to a distant server using ftp, but I cannot copy folders, I can only copy file by file
[08:15] <dr_Willis> that would be a feature of your ftp client,
[08:15] <mitchell> pure-ftp is one of the widest used, it support ftp via SSL which fillezilla and many other ftp clients support TLS/SSL encryption
[08:16] <mitchell> after July 11th. plain text file sharing is a open invite to show some stranger your end user agreement to have that file or face serious charges
[08:16] <mitchell> in the USA
[08:17] <dr_Willis> !info curlftpfs
[08:17] <LarsN> mitchell: as if people still use plain text for anything important anyway. ;)
[08:18] <dr_Willis> theres wget and wput also i recall for moving things about ftp servers
[08:18] <mitchell> many open anonymous FTP's are not encrypted LarsN
[08:18] <dr_Willis> !info wput
[08:18] <LarsN> mitchell: do people use anon FTP for anything important?  I haven't for at least a decade.
[08:18] <LarsN> I don't count pulling down an Ubuntu ISO as "important"
[08:18] <mitchell> LarsN 'didn't know' is not a execuse which works in a USA courtroom regarding that file you accidently got
[08:18] <llutz_> LarsN: ask the "common user" if he encrypted his cloud-contents...
[08:19] <codekK> Anyone can help me? My "power" button looks like a gear, as when the system updates and asked to restart ... But I've rebooted a ten or more times and nothing
[08:19] <HeartUbuntu> dead drops are the future of file sharing :p
[08:19] <dr_Willis> rebirth of sneakernet
[08:19] <mitchell> how secure is 168bit blowfish ?
[08:19] <LarsN> mitchell: reasonably.
[08:20] <mitchell> most 128bit encryptions are broken which is why it's ok to export them overseas out of USA
[08:20] <mitchell> I don't think OpenSSL supports twofish nor serpent, LarsN ?
[08:20] <ryannathans> I installed esound, what's the equivilent of 'esdplay' ?
[08:21] <mitchell> 'If' I can get hybrid-ircd to enable SSL, it looks like blow-fish 168 is the best it offers :(
[08:23] <ryannathans> why doesn't esdplay exist anymore?
[08:25] <dr_Willis> !find esdplay
[08:25] <codekK> Anyone can help me? My "power" button looks like a gear, as when the system updates and asked to restart ... But I've rebooted a ten or more times and nothing
[08:26] <dr_Willis> codekK:  so   the only issue is just the look of one icon?
[08:26] <LarsN> mitchell: http://www.openssl.org/docs/apps/ciphers.html#TLS_v1_0_cipher_suites_
[08:26] <dr_Willis> be curious if a new user has the same icon...
[08:27] <mitchell> thanks LarsN I'll take a look see
[08:27] <LarsN> mitchell: sorry, took a bit to figure the right search term.  Ciphers not mechanisms :)
[08:27] <ryannathans> how can I send audio over the network? What's the easiest way?
[08:27] <codekK> Hm now yes, after fighting for nvidia drivers issues...
[08:27] <LarsN> mitchell: some of those are non-terrible.
[08:27] <mitchell> no problem, ty for searching that for me, I've checked the ciphers I have already and they are missing
[08:28] <dr_Willis>  ryannathans  send to what exactly? another linux box?
[08:28] <DarwinSurvivor> codekK: the icon is *supposed* to be a gear, because it also contains all the system settings/etc stuff in it
[08:29] <DarwinSurvivor> dr_Willis: I use a combination of NFS (for the linux boxes) and mediatomb (for the PS3) but you could accomplish the linux part a little easier using sshfs
[08:30] <LarsN> mitchell: I wouldn't expect it to be readily easy to break a DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA cipher
[08:30] <DarwinSurvivor> dr_Willis: there is also xbmc which can stream just about anything (my server is headless, so setting up xbmc would be a PITA for me)
[08:30] <dr_Willis> theres linux players for dlna (meditomb)  if you wanted.
[08:30] <DarwinSurvivor> ryannathans: please see my last to comments (sent to dr_Willis by accident)
[08:30] <kryl> hi, what's the best way to check mails in backdround or with gnome compliant encapsulation ? does evolution have such features ?
[08:30] <mitchell> Calomel has some really fine how to in regards to bringing Firefox up to 2020 encryption standards
[08:30] <LarsN> mitchell: nginx makes it trivial to make that the only available cipherset.
[08:31] <LarsN> on the server side.
[08:31] <ryannathans> DarwinSurvivor: does it make it more interesting if I say the client is windows?
[08:31] <LarsN> it also allows you to forcer server side ciphers.
[08:31] <mitchell> whichone LarsN ?
[08:31] <HeartUbuntu> take it easy everyone, later
[08:31] <LarsN> DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA
[08:31] <mitchell> I still don't find twofish nor serpent 256 in those library's even thou they were both AES finalists :(
[08:31] <dr_Willis> ryannathans:  what sort of client are you refering to? theres a dozen ways to stream audio to a windows bvox
[08:31] <DarwinSurvivor> ryannathans: yes, that rules out NFS and SSHFS and leaves you with dlna (mediatomb/ushare) or samba
[08:31] <edgars> yo man!
[08:32] <hironakamura> hey anyone here messed around with ircd-hybrid?
[08:32] <mitchell> yes I try to force AES 256 when I can but not sure if overseas users can use that
[08:32] <mitchell> I'm trying to recompile ircd-hybrid to allow SSL, hironakamura
[08:32] <LarsN> mitchell: blowfish, twofish, serpent and whilrpool aren't regularly used outside of ssh.
[08:32] <hironakamura> i changed the config file to listen in on port 6667 - but for some reason no matter what i do i still can't connect to my irc server
[08:32] <edgars> where do i need to copy application to be able it to find through winkey quick search?
[08:33] <DarwinSurvivor> hironakamura: did you check the firewall...?
[08:33] <LarsN> hironakamura: iptables open on 6667?
[08:33] <LarsN> iptables/ufw
[08:33] <hironakamura> yeah it is open
[08:33] <ryannathans> dr_Willis: I want to watch youtube videos for example on linux and have sound come from windows computer
[08:33] <hironakamura> =/
[08:33] <hironakamura> ill double check tho
[08:33] <DarwinSurvivor> ryannathans: OH, *that* kind of audio streaming!
[08:33] <dr_Willis> ryannathans:  then you may want to look into that pulseaudio port for windows. it lets you reroute sound from one pc to a differnt one.
[08:34] <sh0ck_wave> hi people
[08:34] <DarwinSurvivor> ryannathans: *IF* you get it to work, I'm 99% sure you will never get tracking correctly. streaming audio in real time between ANY computers and getting it to track to a separate video feed is nearly impossible
[08:34] <LarsN> hironakamura: does:  sudo netstat -natu  show anythying listening on 6667
[08:34] <hironakamura> hold on im still a but of an ubuntu noob
[08:34] <mitchell> SSL that I have appears to have blowfish along with aes-256 modes, not serpent nor twofish thou :(
[08:34] <ryannathans> DarwinSurvivor: I got my mouse and keyboard working on two computers at once ;)
[08:35] <hironakamura> how can i check this without exiting irssi?
[08:35] <DarwinSurvivor> hironakamura: can you paste "nmap name_of_server" (run from ANOTHER computer) and put it on http://paste.ubuntu.com?
[08:35] <DarwinSurvivor> ryannathans: using synergy?
[08:35] <LarsN> hironakamura: running X or no?
[08:35] <mitchell> it seemed to me acouple days ago that setting up plain hybrid-ircd was a breeze, hironakamura, not with SSL enabled thou :(
[08:35] <ryannathans> DarwinSurvivor: yeah
[08:35] <hironakamura> not running X
[08:35] <hironakamura> pure command line
[08:35] <dr_Willis> hironakamura:  for using the console a lot. you may want to learn how to use screen, or tmux
[08:35] <LarsN> hironakamura: local access to the box?
[08:35] <DarwinSurvivor> hironakamura: are you using a TTY-only system?
[08:36] <dr_Willis> hironakamura:  alt-ctrl-f1 through f6 = extra consoles
[08:36] <LarsN> hironakamura: alt+F2 should bring up another terminal you can log into
[08:36] <mitchell> hironakamura are you hitting it with 127.0.0.1 or ?
[08:36] <DarwinSurvivor> hironakamura: just use another virtual terminal
[08:36] <DarwinSurvivor> !tty | hironakamura
[08:36] <hironakamura> im using putty
[08:36] <dr_Willis> so start up another putty  session ;0
[08:36] <LarsN> hironakamura: in that case ssh to the host again.
[08:36] <mitchell> do you have XChat there hironakamura ?
[08:36] <LarsN> and put on your "todo" list "READ ABOUT SCREEN" :)
[08:36] <hironakamura> created a new session hold on
[08:37] <dr_Willis> !screen
[08:37] <DarwinSurvivor> hironakamura: then just open a second copy of putty :)
[08:37] <hironakamura> yeah just did so
[08:37] <hironakamura> ok
[08:37] <hironakamura> so now netstat ?
[08:37] <LarsN> netstat -natu
[08:37] <mitchell> I logged into mine via XCHAT set for 127.0.0.1 no problem, hironakamura
[08:37] <hironakamura> so now what do you want me to paste here
[08:38] <ryannathans> how do I set up linux to stream audio somewhere?
[08:38] <LarsN> let's make it a little more pointed...
[08:38] <LarsN> use:  netstat -natu |grep 6667
[08:38] <samba35> can i boot ubuntu with pxe /boot rom  ,diskless ubuntu ?
[08:38] <LarsN> and paste it to a pastebin like "http://pastie.org"
[08:38] <mitchell> ryannathans you'd need a media server wouldn't you, running under Ubuntu?
[08:38] <DarwinSurvivor> !pastebinit | hironakamura
[08:39] <edgars> where do i need to copy an application to be able it to find/run through winkey quick search? (unity desktop)
[08:39] <mitchell> have you looked at firefly perhaps ryannathans ?
[08:39] <LarsN> ryannathans: see icecast/darkice/ices
[08:39] <hironakamura> tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:6667          0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN
[08:39] <hironakamura> tcp        0      0 198.101.193.204:44130   213.232.93.3:6667       ESTABLISHED
[08:39] <ryannathans> I want to stream whatever audio played from the ubuntu machine to come out of windows speakers
[08:39] <anandjeyahar> can anyone guide me through configuring apache to use AD server. I have used an example  from online blogs, but keep getting Invalid Credentials error.
[08:39] <DarwinSurvivor> LarsN: he is trying to stream the audio portion of youtube videos
[08:39] <DarwinSurvivor> ryannathans: do you want ALL audio to be streamed, or just some applications?
[08:40] <LarsN> DarwinSurvivor: those apps will stream whatever normally leaves the speakers on the *nix host over the network.
[08:40] <ryannathans> all
[08:40] <hironakamura> not sure if that was helpful
[08:40] <DarwinSurvivor> LarsN: Oh, didn't know that. I've only used them with mpd :P
[08:40] <hironakamura> im trying to connect externally to the server
[08:40] <ryannathans> LarsN: what's the latency like?
[08:40] <llutz_> hironakamura: its bound to localhost only, change config
[08:40] <LarsN> hironakamura: it looks like it's listening on 213.232.93.3:6667 as well as localhost:6667
[08:40] <ryannathans> I have a 10 gigabit/s connection between machines
[08:40] <LarsN> is that your public address?
[08:40] <codekK> nah i make new user and same, the power button is like a mechanism
[08:40] <codekK> :S
[08:40] <hironakamura> so edit the ircd-hybrid conf file?
[08:41] <DarwinSurvivor> ryannathans: what is the physical distance between them?
[08:41] <ryannathans> 50cm
[08:41] <llutz_> LarsN: "..198.101.193.204:44130   213.232.93.3:6667       ESTABLISHED"  is an OUTBOUND conenction (his freenode coneection i guess)
[08:41] <anandjeyahar> here's the config file http://dpaste.com/749257/
[08:41] <llutz_> hironakamura: yes
[08:41] <LarsN> llutz_: yeah, your right.
[08:41] <mitchell> that's via his router isn't it llutz_ ?
[08:41] <hironakamura> llutz_ ok
[08:41] <DarwinSurvivor> ryannathans: I think the easiest method would be to go to the dollar store and by a $8 male-male audio cable and hook the linux machine's line out to the windows machine's line-in :D
[08:42] <DarwinSurvivor> ryannathans: that will also eliminate lagg due to buffering!
[08:42] <ryannathans> DarwinSurvivor: you can do that?
[08:42] <llutz_> mitchell: why?
[08:42] <LarsN> mitchell: so correcting myself I think your ircd is only listening on localhost from what I saw.
[08:42] <ryannathans> DarwinSurvivor: hmm, do like.
[08:42] <ryannathans> brb, finding one
[08:42] <LarsN> ryannathans: I don't remember it being fantastic latency wise.
[08:42] <codekK> Why my power button is like a mechanism???????
[08:42] <DarwinSurvivor> ryannathans: yes. alteratively, you could buy a mixer, but that will probably cost more
[08:42] <DarwinSurvivor> ryannathans: make sure you use the line-in and not the microphone port!
[08:42] <LarsN> ryannathans: did someone just suggest taking the line out on ubuntu, and running a male to male stereo 1/8" to the line in on windows?
[08:42] <hironakamura> whcih file should i be editing
[08:42] <LarsN> because ^^ would be my solution
[08:43] <hironakamura> sudo nano /etc/ ????
[08:43] <ryannathans> LarsN: now it has been said
[08:43]  * ryannathans pulls out the cable
[08:43] <DarwinSurvivor> LarsN: o/
[08:43] <LarsN> :)
[08:43] <LarsN> DarwinSurvivor: I was asking if someone beat me to it.
[08:43] <llutz_> hironakamura: _you_ are running a service, so _you_ have to know where the configs are
[08:43] <edgars> Heeeeeelpppppp!!!! :)
[08:43] <LarsN> DarwinSurvivor: it appears you got it, while I was looking at irdc :)
[08:43] <edgars> where do i need to copy an application to be able it to find/run through winkey quick search? (unity desktop)
[08:44] <hironakamura> llutz ok thanks
[08:44] <Heartbeats> Hi
[08:44] <Heartbeats> are there actually people here who work on the dev of ubuntu?
[08:45] <DarwinSurvivor> Heartbeats: there may be a few that work on some *parts* of ubuntu. Ubuntu is just a collection of other projects and some creative "glue" to hold it together
[08:45] <LarsN> Heartbeats:  I'm sure the answer is yes.  IIRC I contributed a one line patch about 8 years ago, that counts technically speaking
[08:45] <ryannathans> brb, need to relog
[08:45] <DarwinSurvivor> ryannathans: ok
[08:45] <Heartbeats> i see
[08:45] <Heartbeats> okay
[08:46] <DarwinSurvivor> Heartbeats: do you have a specific question?
[08:46] <Heartbeats> So, i converted over to ubuntu a few months ago
[08:46] <Heartbeats> yea
[08:46] <Heartbeats> my camera is not supported
[08:46] <Heartbeats> im working on an hp laptop
[08:46] <yossi1> hello, I'm trying to get ubuntu server to work with a network printer i have. the printer itself has wifi, its not connected to any computer directly. i got this printer to work with ubuntu desktop using some .deb files i found, and then adding the printer through the GUI. i got those .debs installed on the server too now, but im stuck when it comes to adding the printer without the benefit of a GUI
[08:46] <Heartbeats> there are no linux drivers for it on the hp websit
[08:46] <Heartbeats> e
[08:47] <Heartbeats> so i'm wondering who to speak to
[08:47] <Heartbeats> and what buttons to push
[08:47] <DarwinSurvivor> Heartbeats: can you use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste the outputs of "lspci" and "lsusb"?
[08:47] <yossi1> i can compare settings files between the 2 computers if i just knew what files those were
[08:47] <L3top> !enter | Heartbeats
[08:48] <DarwinSurvivor> yossi1: have you tried the cups web interface? *absolutely* amazingly useful for headless servers!
[08:48] <LarsN> Heartbeats: what's lsusb tell you the device is?
[08:48] <LarsN> Heartbeats:  mine for instance is " Chicony Electronics Co., Ltd " which I admit to have never bothered messing with because I find webcams silly :)
[08:48] <yossi1> DarwinSurvivor, how can i do that if the machine is headless?
[08:48] <LarsN> but I understand folks who want them to work.
[08:49] <Heartbeats> right okay srry bought that DarwinSurvivor, and, LarsN, lemme check
[08:49] <DarwinSurvivor> yossi1: you use *another* computer to connect to the server's web interface.
[08:49] <codekK> Why my power button is like a mechanism??????? i try with other users and same problem :s
[08:50] <yossi1> so <ipofserver>:631 ?
[08:50] <yossi1> that does not work
[08:50] <DarwinSurvivor> yossi1: example = if server = 192.168.1.10 , then use your desktop to connect to "http://192.168.1.10:631"
[08:50] <llutz_> yossi1: cups listens to localhost only by default, so either change the config to let it listen on external ifaces too or just use a ssh-tunnel to connect
[08:50] <sk1special> r kid with this problem yesterday. my cube is flat..like..its a rotating page. how do i make it a actual cube
[08:50] <DarwinSurvivor> yossi1: you may need to enable it (or it may be bound to localhost only)
[08:51] <DarwinSurvivor> yossi1: stupid question, but why do you need to use a server to print to a network printer...?
[08:51] <zip> twice a year an ubuntu update means tice a year a destroyed printer config for me :l
[08:51] <yossi1> llutz, is that config part of cups or some firewall?
[08:51] <llutz_> yossi1: ssh -L 8631:localhost:631 user@yourhostwithcups
[08:51] <llutz_> yossi1: cups config
[08:51] <LarsN> zip: in part, blame apple.  That always makes me feel better.
[08:51] <yossi1> DarwinSurvivor, because i want the server to run a cronjob that grabs print jobs that get emailed to it
[08:52] <llutz_> yossi1: after establishing tunnel, "browse localhost:8631"
[08:52] <ryannathans> WOO
[08:52] <ryannathans> \o/
[08:52] <ryannathans> great success
[08:52] <DarwinSurvivor> yossi1: if you just want to be able to print remotely using your server as a gateway, use port forwarding "ssh -Lprinter_port:printer_ip:printer_port username@server_ip" and then print to localhost!
[08:52] <LarsN> ryannathans: DarwinSurvivor gets the credit.  he came up with the idea first :)
[08:53] <DarwinSurvivor> yossi1: oh, ok
[08:53] <DarwinSurvivor> yossi1: what type of printer is it?
[08:53] <LarsN> ryannathans: is the problem you just solved "I have two computers, but only one set of speakers?"
[08:53] <yossi1> canon mx800
[08:53] <ryannathans> No
[08:53] <ryannathans> LarsN: well, almots
[08:53] <DarwinSurvivor> ryannathans: nothing like solving a software problem with hardware :D
[08:54] <ryannathans> LarsN: two computers, linux one runs my raid array via infiniband directly into the windows machine. I got multidesktopping workin with synergy
[08:54] <LarsN> DarwinSurvivor: almost as good as solving a hardware problem with software.
[08:54] <ryannathans> now I have audio \o/
[08:54] <yossi1> oh good. i got to the CUPS web panel thing.
[08:54] <ryannathans> only one problem left
[08:55] <ryannathans> stupid broken packages I can't fix when installing any media player
[08:55] <LarsN> ryannathans:  one of the computers runs windows?
[08:55] <ryannathans> yeah
[08:55] <LarsN> **snicker
[08:55] <DarwinSurvivor> yossi1: can you send a link to the product page? I can't even find it on canon's website!
[08:55] <ryannathans> LarsN: I'm force to. Astrophotography processing software only works on windows
[08:56] <LarsN> I have a work issued windows 7 machine.  which wouldn't be terrible if I didn't work for a large OpenStack based public cloud company
[08:57] <yossi1> DarwinSurvivor, http://usa.canon.com/cusa/support/consumer/printers_multifunction/pixma_mx_series/pixma_mx882?selectedName=DriversAndSoftware
[08:57] <LarsN> "I use windows, to manage a metric $#$@ load of ubuntu nodes"
[08:57] <LarsN> :)
[08:57] <yossi1> something like that
[08:57] <ryannathans> hah
[08:58] <DarwinSurvivor> yossi1: just for fun, can you run "nmap ip_of_printer"?
[08:58] <sk1special> anyone know how to make my compiz cube a cube instead of a flat page?
[08:58] <DarwinSurvivor> yossi1: my HP printer at home (ethernet) accepts document printing via ftp, that may be easier if your printer supports it
[08:58] <LarsN> me doesn't have anything with enough graphics card to run compiz
[08:58] <DarwinSurvivor> sk1special: have you played around in ccsm?
[08:59] <yossi1> let me just install nmap first
[08:59] <DarwinSurvivor> yossi1: ok
[08:59] <LarsN> I'm so glad my only printer is a well supporter laserjet 4000n.
[08:59] <LarsN> it's one of the few things I can happily say "just works" around here :)
[08:59] <LarsN> s/supporter/supported.
[08:59] <sk1special> no im super new to ubuntu. ive just installed then enabled the cube and the rotate / disabled the wall
[08:59] <shaibn> Hello :) I've got a very old server that I'm trying to virtualize. I did an rsync to a new hdd in vmware and now I'm just left with grub installation. It has grub-legacy and not grub2 and when I run the update-grub from the chrooted environment, it keeps updating the menu.lst with md0 and the wrong root device .. the old server indeed have an mdadm software raid, but I don't need it anymore on the new machine and so I don't know how it even recognizes the s
[08:59] <shaibn> oftware raid if it doesn't exist and I'm on a liveCD running a chrooted environment. Help :) ?
[08:59] <hayden_ru> sk1special, sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[09:00] <sk1special> and it works as far as..a thing that rotates. but it wont show as a cube just like..a flat page
[09:00] <hayden_ru> sk1special, you need to rebind a button for it i think
[09:00] <hayden_ru> sk1special, look for bindings in cube settings
[09:01] <Fudge> anyone know how to enable accessibility in xubuntu-dev 4.10
[09:01] <nic> does anyone know how to get the number pad to work? i have a thinkpad edge, and didn't see any options for my keyboard when i installed
[09:01] <sk1special> how do i get to cube settings? and it does * rotate * via cntrl/alt/arrow keys. its just flat instead of cubey
[09:02] <yossi1> DarwinSurvivor, http://pastebin.com/UtpH2J6u
[09:02] <LarsN> shaibn: you're basically trying to start from scratch now?
[09:02] <hayden_ru> sk1special, click on it in ccsm it will open settings
[09:02] <shaibn> LarsN, sort of ...
[09:02] <shaibn> LarsN, I just want grub to work .. and boot my vm
[09:03] <Heartbeats> LarsN: it's Feiya Technology Corp
[09:03] <Heartbeats> I am on their website right now
[09:03] <shaibn> LarsN, I did this yesterday, and then noticed I didn't copy everything ... but yesterday I managed to do it just find ... I just can't seem to get it working again
[09:03] <DarwinSurvivor> yossi1: darn, well it was worth a shot. best go with the cups web-interface then
[09:03] <LarsN> Heartbeats: google search "Feiya Technology corp" "ubuntu"
[09:04] <LarsN> Heartbeats: is usually my starting point for things like this  at least
[09:04] <codekK> Why my power button is like a mechanism??????? i try with other users and same problem :s
[09:04] <Heartbeats> LarsN: okay
[09:04] <yossi1> yeah. i seem to be getting somewhere with the web interface
[09:04] <LarsN> shaibn: have you looked at "man grub-install"
[09:04] <shaibn> LarsN, lets start by understanding why update-grub updated the menu.list with md0 and not sda2
[09:04] <DarwinSurvivor> codekK: please elaborate, what do you mean by "mechanism"?!?
[09:05] <shaibn> LarsN, I've looked everywhere .. yes .. still haven't found my solution ...
[09:05] <kapz> When I start Transmission either through gnome menu or terminal it does not show it's window...ubuntu 12.04
[09:05] <sk1special> the only key options is for unfolding the cube.
[09:05] <llutz_> shaibn: shouldn't "sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-legacy" work?
[09:05] <LarsN> shaibn: as far as I can tell, grub-update is a grub (not grub2) utility
[09:05]  * ekv Hi all
[09:06] <DarwinSurvivor> yossi1: is the web interface working for you? i use it fairly regularly so I can help you out with it if you need
[09:06] <LarsN> shaibn: which means it's possible it picked up on an old mbr, rather than a newer gpt entry?  (just a theory atm)
[09:06] <yossi1> oh, wait, no. the web interface i got to was actually to the local CUPS not the one on the server :(
[09:06] <shaibn> LarsN, The old server is so old, that apt-get isn't working correctly on it. I don't want to touch it. Furthermore, yes, the old server had grub-legacy, not grub2. I'd like to keep it that way.
[09:06] <DarwinSurvivor> yossi1: oh, lol
[09:06] <yossi1> the tunnel didnt work
[09:06] <DarwinSurvivor> yossi1: ok, first of all, is cups running*/
[09:06] <sk1special> ive got wobbly windows working..and it can go inside the cube..and i can change the coloring..i can rotate it and flip it around..but *it* is flat not a box
[09:07] <yossi1> how do i double check?
[09:07] <codekK> DarwinSurvivor, a gear!
[09:07] <shaibn> LarsN, how do you mean "picked up on the old mbr"? This is a VM .. it can't see the old HDD which is connected to another machine on the network
[09:07] <DarwinSurvivor> yossi1: what did you run to make your tunnel?
[09:07] <codekK> DarwinSurvivor, a gear! Like when you have pending restart after update
[09:07] <DarwinSurvivor> codekK: do you mean the button in the top-right corner? it's *supposed* to look like that!
[09:08] <codekK> Yes
[09:08] <nic> or, how do i turn off the automatic full screen when a window touches the top bar?
[09:08] <DarwinSurvivor> codekK: please post a screenshot if you think it's the wrong icon
[09:08] <LarsN> shaibn: since I clearly didn't follow the problem correctly :)  I'll ask a couple quick questions to hopefully get caught back up.
[09:08] <codekK> ok second
[09:08] <yossi1> ssh -L 8631:localhost:631 yossi@ubuntu2
[09:08] <yossi1> and i already see what i did wrong :P
[09:08] <yossi1> i went to :631 instead of :8631
[09:08] <LarsN> shaibn: so the bare metal server is running ubuntu, with vmware server?
[09:09] <shaibn> LarsN, no
[09:09] <DarwinSurvivor> yossi1: ok, and you connected to localhost:8631 not localhost:631 right?
[09:09] <shaibn> LarsN, I have a very old bare metal server running an old ubuntu dist ... which is working fine.
[09:09] <DarwinSurvivor> yossi1: lol
[09:09] <yossi1> yeah, i did that now
[09:09] <DarwinSurvivor> yossi1: did it work?
[09:09] <LarsN> ok, old server, working fine.
[09:09] <yossi1> looks like it is, it discovered the printer
[09:10] <shaibn> LarsN, I wanted to virtualize it .. so I created a new VM on another VM host and created an empty disk on it ... with two partitions. 1 for swap another for root with ext3 filesystem
[09:10] <DarwinSurvivor> yossi1: cool
[09:10] <shaibn> LarsN, old server works fine, and using grub-legacy
[09:10] <shaibn> LarsN, then I turned the VM on with a live CD and used rsync to copy the old server to the new one.
[09:10] <llutz_> shaibn: did you run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-legacy" ? did it ask for a place where to write the bootmanager?
[09:10] <shaibn> LarsN, then I wanted to install grub-legacy and get it running ..
[09:11] <yossi1> in the printers tab under status is says "Idle - "/usr/lib/cups/filter/commandtops failed""
[09:12] <shaibn> LarsN, if you mean on the VM, then i'm just getting 'grub-legacy' is not installed ... so maybe it isn't installed ... I just know it is a very old server and running grub1
[09:12] <DarwinSurvivor> yossi1: the printer is on and connected right (go to the printer's IP in firefox to make sure it didn't move to a new ip!)
[09:12] <yossi1> i got that ip from the router
[09:12] <LarsN> shaibn: so at this point the VM is still running the live-cd correct?
[09:12] <LarsN> with the rsync data from the old server on it's local disk/
[09:13] <llutz_> shaibn: dpkg -l '*grub*' |grep ^i     to check what grub you have
[09:13] <shaibn> LarsN, yes. And I've made sure it has grub 0.97 installed on it.
[09:13] <shaibn> and I'm chrooted into the mounted environment
[09:13] <seb__> Hi all, I did follow these instructions http://askubuntu.com/questions/124174/how-do-i-move-my-encrypted-home-to-a-new-computer t transfer my home to my new computer. Now I have lots of ECRYPT_FNEK_ENCRYPTED... folders in my new home
[09:13] <LarsN> shaibn: so worst case, you should be able to use "grub" and at the grub > root (hd1,0) or hd(0,0)  ///
[09:13] <LarsN> I always get it wrong the first time around.
[09:13] <shaibn> LarsN, that didn't work
[09:13] <DarwinSurvivor> yossi1: make sure you set up a static ip on the printer or you may find that one day it just "stops working"
[09:14] <yossi1> it would need to "start" working first :P
[09:14] <codekK> DarwinSurvivor, here a link http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/7162/capturadepantallade2012.png
[09:15] <LarsN> shaibn:  you finished with:  grub > setup (hd0)
[09:15] <LarsN> ?
[09:15] <yossi1> also, the dhcp server in my router gives very long leases, so it's unlikley to change
[09:15] <yossi1> could still happen though
[09:15]  * LarsN spent too many years in BSD land.  Grub is confusing :)
[09:16] <shaibn> LarsN, a moment please
[09:17] <DarwinSurvivor> yossi1: I give static IP's to *all* my machines, just makes things easier in the future (I also add their hostnames to each others' /etc/hosts files)
[09:17] <DarwinSurvivor> yossi1: the configuration steps in the web interface should be *fairly* similar to the one in the GUI except that it won't do auto-detect.
[09:18] <LarsN> DarwinSurvivor: I setup static reservations for all the machines in the house with cat-6 cables.  wifi devices can use whatever's available.
[09:18] <DarwinSurvivor> yossi1: if you have a computer set up that works already, compare the settings (especially which driver you used) to see if they are the same
[09:18] <yossi1> where are the settings stored?
[09:18] <LarsN> it's nice to just leave everything set for DHCP, but know what IP the desktops/printers/etc are going to get.
[09:19] <DarwinSurvivor> LarsN: our household has 4 laptops, so I gave them all statics as well
[09:19] <LarsN> I never connect to the laptops from anywhere else.
[09:19] <llutz_> DarwinSurvivor: you seem to have too much time ;)
[09:19] <fran_> irc.freenode.net
[09:19] <LarsN> usually put things on the zfs based storage server, and/or get them from there.
[09:19] <DarwinSurvivor> yossi1: if you go to "administration -> manage printers -> your printer" it should list all the driver info
[09:20] <DarwinSurvivor> yossi1: you should open the working machine's web-interface as well, then you can compare the settings directly
[09:20] <DarwinSurvivor> llutz_: because I'm in here or because I static-IP all my machines?
[09:21] <llutz_> DarwinSurvivor: the latter ;)
[09:22] <Jordan_U> shaibn: LarsN: Ubuntu uses grub2. Installing grub legacy is *not* what you want to do (but it's what you're currently doing).
[09:22] <LarsN> Jordan_U: I'm not doing anything with grub.  :)
[09:22] <LarsN> Jordan_U: and if he has an old installation he's rsynced over to a new virtual host, it's quite possible it's exactly what he wants to do.
[09:22] <DarwinSurvivor> llutz_: only takes 10 seconds to set up static IP's and copying the host info can be done via SSH *very* quickly (using grep and tee)
[09:23] <llutz_> DarwinSurvivor: takes 5minutes once to configure a router (dhcp/dns) and you never ever have to waste those 10 seconds (imo)
[09:23] <LarsN> DarwinSurvivor: dhcp with MAC based reservations is easier :)
[09:24] <LarsN> makes moving the entire network to say 172.16.28 from 192.168.0 faster  too :)
[09:24] <DarwinSurvivor> llutz_: for ip in a_list_of_other_ips ; do echo my_hostname my_static_ip | ssh $ip "sudo tee -a /etc/hosts"; done
[09:25] <llutz_> DarwinSurvivor: needs all computers running at this time etc.pp. anyways, different people, different ways to handle a task
[09:25] <Jordan_U> shaibn: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[09:25] <DarwinSurvivor> llutz_: meh, works for me and I can swap out routers in a flash now
[09:26] <LarsN> <--- gets hostnames with "nmap -sP 172.16.28.0/24" since it does a reverse dns lookup for me :)
[09:27] <LarsN> I can't be bothered to remember what my wife named her machines :)
[09:27] <athrun> hello
[09:29] <hariom> I have installed Ubuntu Server 10.04 as minimal install. I want to get Audio and minimal GUI (i.e. without Open Office etc). Audio I need as my application will need to play with Audio files to test
[09:29] <TRaxx> hi Guys can anybody tell  me where i can find libuclibc-dev and uclibc-toolchain for 10.4
[09:30] <ikonia> TRaxx: if they exist, they are in the repos
[09:30] <TRaxx> I looked and cant find them for 10.04 andly hardy
[09:30] <hariom> For minimal GUI, some time back someone suggested to try: xdm, gnome-core and xorg. How to ensure audio also works
[09:30] <iceroot> hariom: install the xserver and pulseaudio
[09:30] <troulouliou_dev> hi i have real problem with flash on firefox , the videos are blue  and all the window begind any flash application are some kind of trasparent
[09:30] <ikonia> TRaxx: then they are not there
[09:30] <hariom> iceroot: is xserver for gui?
[09:30] <troulouliou_dev> anybody aware of this situation i m on 12.04 with medibuntu
[09:31] <TRaxx> ikonia, oke
[09:31] <ikonia> troulouliou_dev: a few people have reported that bug, if you are installing from medibuntu - contact medibuntu for support of their repos
[09:31] <iceroot> hariom: yes
[09:31] <iceroot> hariom: it is the gui itself without a real desktop environment
[09:31] <DarwinSurvivor> ikonia: is that a medibuntu-specific bug?
[09:31] <ikonia> DarwinSurvivor: the people I've seen report it have been pulling packages from medibuntu, I've not seen anyone having a problem pulling flash from main
[09:32] <troulouliou_dev> ikonia, ok
[09:32] <ikonia> DarwinSurvivor: that could be a co-incidence, but I don't know
[09:32] <DarwinSurvivor> ikonia: that explains a LOT!
[09:32] <TRaxx> ikonia, any idea where i could find them besides the repo
[09:32] <ikonia> TRaxx: if they exist, they are in the repo
[09:32] <ikonia> TRaxx: you should not be pulling them or trying to pull them from anywhere else
[09:32] <Jordan_U> ikonia: I was getting that bug, without medibuntu.
[09:33] <ikonia> DarwinSurvivor: there you go, Jordan_U has the issue without the medibuntu repo
[09:33] <ikonia> Jordan_U: you are the first I've seen
[09:33] <HackerII> um, just now, the updates gave me a warning, saying the sources were not trusted and have no change logs with also being unsafe....did some one get hacked ??
[09:33] <troulouliou_dev> what are the advanteages of medibuntu btw , i think i just installed it after reading a top 10 things to do after installing 12.04 :)
[09:33] <DarwinSurvivor> well, there goes that theory
[09:33] <TRaxx> ikonia, so they not there im screwed... use another flavour
[09:33] <ikonia> troulouliou_dev: trusting unofficial docs for "top 10 things" and installing things blind for no reason isn't a good way to go
[09:33] <DarwinSurvivor> HackerII: very unlikely, probably a missing GPG key on your end. please pastebin the output of "sudo apt-get update"
[09:34] <troulouliou_dev> ikonia, guess you are right :)
[09:34] <HackerII> not sure but ok
[09:34] <DarwinSurvivor> TRaxx: why do you need those libraries?
[09:34] <lusuhard_> some wiki's guide?
[09:34] <lusuhard_> hello to 'vr1! I would like to know how to pack a ubuntu.img to make a loop device
[09:34] <wendico> i updated and i cant install GMAMEUI from the software center anymore, what alternatives do i have?
[09:35] <DarwinSurvivor> !find gmame
[09:35] <Jordan_U> troulouliou_dev: This problem is related to Nvida cards in relation to GPU video decoding with flash. "sudo apt-get remove libvdpau1" will disable GPU video decoding for Nvidia cards (in flash and any other application) and may also unfortunately remove other packages you may want, so look carefully at what it's removing before accepting it.
[09:35] <DarwinSurvivor> wendico: according to ubottu, gmameui is there
[09:35] <lusuhard_> hello to 'vr1! I would like to know how to pack a ubuntu.img to make a loop device. some wiki's guide?
[09:35] <HackerII> sudo apt-get update works perfect
[09:36] <troulouliou_dev> Jordan_U, thanks this happens with all the nvidia bin driver  ? or there is a stable version
[09:36] <wendico> yes, gmame exist but there is not an INSTALL button
[09:36] <DarwinSurvivor> HackerII: ok, then please give us the *entire* error message
[09:36] <Jordan_U> troulouliou_dev: I don't know.
[09:36] <troulouliou_dev> Jordan_U, at least thanks again will search for this
[09:36] <TRaxx> DarwinSurvivor, Im trying to build busybox for qemu
[09:36] <DarwinSurvivor> wendico: then it's probably already installed...
[09:36] <HackerII> the error is in the update manager when i try to install the updates
[09:36] <Jordan_U> troulouliou_dev: Taken from http://askubuntu.com/questions/117127/flash-video-appears-blue (the first of the suggestions listed which worked for me).
[09:37] <krababbel> troulouliou_dev: it is a bug in flash
[09:37] <wendico> only more info button and when i click it says NOT FOUND, try it
[09:37] <lusuhard_> hello to 'vr1! I would like to know how to pack a ubuntu.img to make a loop device. some wiki's guide?
[09:37] <hariom> iceroot: is this xserver same as xserver-xorg-core ? apt-get not able to find xserver
[09:37] <DocPlatypus> Just a few days ago, my system quit recognizing the normal weight Liberation Sans fonts. It only sees the bold versions, so anything I had using Liberation Sans (which was almost everything) showed up entirely in bold. I've tried rebuilding the font caches and uninstalling and reinstalling the font... what's the proper way to go about fixing this?
[09:37] <krababbel> troulouliou_dev: I'd guess an older flash version would work
[09:37] <Jordan_U> troulouliou_dev: It looks like there are other suggestions there which will allow you to just disable GPU decoding in flash, so you may want to look into those.
[09:37] <iceroot> hariom: yes
[09:37] <ikonia> hariom: why not just do a normal ubuntu install and remove what you don't want
[09:37] <DarwinSurvivor> !patience | lusuhard_
[09:37] <HackerII> like i said, its not on my end
[09:37] <ikonia> hariom: if you don't know what you are doing to build upwards, do a normall install and remove/downscale
[09:38] <HackerII> lemme screen shot it
[09:38] <lusuhard_> tnx
[09:38] <DarwinSurvivor> HackerII: well, if it was on ubuntu's end there would be a hundred other people in here with the same problem, so let's make SURE it's not on your end!
[09:38] <troulouliou_dev> Jordan_U, , krababbel  : thanks , little bit fed up of nvidia on linux in general ,  i just spent 2 days tweaking my htpc with my lcd hdmi tv so acquire the correct resolution ... fed up
[09:39] <wendico> !find gmame
[09:40] <HackerII> Darwin4Ever:   ALL of the packages have tge same warning:  http://imagebin.org/212681
[09:40] <HackerII> DarwinSurvivor:
[09:40] <krababbel> troulouliou_dev: you got analogue audio out?
[09:41] <wendico> can anyone help me with the error trying to install gmame?
[09:41] <Heartbeats> LarsN: okay i read some forums that told me to get luvcview, i did that. and it says; libv4l2; error setting pixformat: Device or resource busy | unable to set format: Device or resource busy| Init v4L2 failed !! exit fatal
[09:41] <Heartbeats> LarsN: I'm trying to get my hp webcam to work sans driver, for your memory
[09:41] <DarwinSurvivor> HackerII: ok, and which part of that screenshot is the error?
[09:42] <troulouliou_dev> krababbel, no hdmi output for audio too , the issue was that adding a new  mode in xorg.conf or through xrand had no effect unless you disable edid use , which also disable hdmi audio output, the only solution to have both is to download the edid from the tv screen and tweak the file with some rare available tools ...
[09:42] <HackerII> 2 funny, now its working
[09:43] <DarwinSurvivor> HackerII: well ok then, problem solved :)
[09:43] <krababbel> troulouliou_dev: I see, thanks
[09:43] <HackerII> also, i updated, it was changed in the last 5 mins, cuz now it gives an alternate http for change logs
[09:44] <DarwinSurvivor> wendico: please run "sudo apt-get install gemameui" and copy/paste the output to http://paste.ubuntu.com
[09:44] <HackerII> cornmazing
[09:44] <krababbel> unfortunately, hdmi's primary purpose seems to be DRM
[09:44] <DarwinSurvivor> HackerII: do you have any PPA's installed?
[09:44] <HackerII> opera
[09:44] <wendico> darwinsurvivor, my output is in spanish but it came to say that there is no candidate for the instalation
[09:44] <HackerII> but evenm when i unchecked opera i got the same error
[09:44] <HackerII> 2 weird
[09:45] <DarwinSurvivor> HackerII: then opera's PPA's are probably having problems (according to your screenshot they also don't support changelogs on their PPA)
[09:45] <HackerII> but, its ok now so
[09:45] <tero> hi guys, i have a stupid question. Is it possible to remove GUI from normal ubuntu so it almost the same as ubuntu server?
[09:45] <HackerII> i said it was ALL packages
[09:45] <HackerII> that said it
[09:45] <DarwinSurvivor> HackerII: yes, but apt is STILL trying to access their PPA because a PPA can override ANY package, not just the one you *think* it's overriding
[09:45] <HackerII> ooo
[09:45] <HackerII> i c now
[09:45] <HackerII> i owe u coffee
[09:46] <DocPlatypus> krababbel: it is, but a device manufacturer can do unencrypted HDMI if they so choose
[09:46] <DarwinSurvivor> HackerII: a PPA is litteraly a 3rd party repository
[09:46] <HackerII> i c now, thanks
[09:46] <DarwinSurvivor> HackerII: no problem
[09:46] <DarwinSurvivor> tero: what is the target use of the system (web server, media streamer, torrent box, etc)?
[09:47] <krababbel> DocPlatypus: yes, but still it's just dvi in a different format I read. Expensive long cables because of the properties.
[09:47] <HackerII> boy, after installing x-p on a neighbors machine today, and it being 8 yrs sinc i used windoze.. it sure made me glad i dont,, i honestly cant see any reason why people still use that crap, i mean, there is $ signs attatched to every mouse click
[09:48] <HackerII> i done
[09:48] <tero> DarwinSurvivor complicated :) I could call it a webserver, I have some very specific hw that I just can't to setup on ubuntu server, but on normal ubuntu works fine. I guess is just a PEBKAC error
[09:48] <tero> so the easiest methos(if is it even possible) is just to remove the x
[09:48] <DocPlatypus> maybe my question as originally worded was TL;DR... so I'll ask it short, how to fix problem with the regular version of a font not showing up in GNOME?
[09:50] <lusuhard_> patience was taken... no ideas?
[09:50] <HackerII> ok im out, take care folks
[09:51] <DarwinSurvivor> lusuhard_: could you please re-phrase your question? the original didn't make a lot of sense (from a technical standpoint)
[09:51] <DarwinSurvivor> tero: what type of hardware?
[09:52] <codekK> hello all, why my top dock isnt with new gnome3 style at ubuntu 12.04 ????
[09:53] <lusuhard_> I have to mount chrooted linux on my tablet, running android. my HW is asus transformer. I have excellent guide to chroot it, but the ubuntu version it is giving to me is too slow, I use VNC to have it on my andro desktop but it is too slow, so I dowloaded theXubuntu, but still the ubuntu from the installation package comes in .img format, so I would like to know how to put xubuntu in .img to install it instead of the custom it is gi
[09:55] <DarwinSurvivor> lusuhard_: could you please post a link to A) the guide you are following, so we can see what you are trying b) the ubuntu version you found in .img format
[09:56] <lusuhard_> DarwinSurvivor http://androlinux.com/android-ubuntu-development/how-to-install-ubuntu-on-android/
[09:56] <aadil> hello guys. i am using ubuntu 12.04 server and the 'less' command is failing silently (with no output) and the man command fails with this output: https://gist.github.com/2717834
[09:57] <DarwinSurvivor> lusuhard_: and what phone are you using?>
[09:57] <elkng> ubuntu can be installed on android ?
[09:57] <lusuhard_> in the guide's video, 20:00 you can see the ubuntu, looks like 10.04 or 10.10
[09:57] <lusuhard_> I have asus transformer tablet version 101
[09:58] <codekK> How i can set the top bar at new look like gnome3 ????
[09:58] <DarwinSurvivor> codekK: you could use gnome-shell
[09:58] <lusuhard_> DarwinSurvivor in the guide's video, 20:00 you can see the ubuntu, looks like 10.04 or 10.10 I have asus transformer tablet version 101
[09:59] <codekK> DarwinSurvivor, with classic gnome cant have the new style of bar? (dark bar)
[10:00] <DJones> lusuhard_: I've looked at putting Ubuntu on my transformer prime, but the comments I've read say that running it via VNC is very slow
[10:00] <Mikey^> codekK: you could set the color you want in properties of gnome-panel
[10:00] <lusuhard_> DJones, do you have any solution?
[10:00] <codekK> Mikey^, where is properties of gnome-panel?
[10:01] <DJones> lusuhard_: Sorry I don't, thats whats put me off trying it
[10:01] <Mikey^> codekK: you are  using gnome 2 or gnome classic ?
[10:01] <sv> hi
[10:01] <lusuhard_> DJones I thought it was due to ubuntu and not to VNC... it's a shame if it is due to vnc...
[10:01] <codekK> im using gnome classic
[10:01] <codekK> i just update to 12.04
[10:02] <codekK> i dont want shell
[10:02] <Mikey^> codekK: sorry, I thought you were using gnome2
[10:02] <codekK> i only want a new style of gnome3 bar
[10:02] <codekK> the "dark bar"
[10:02] <Mikey^> codekK: use cinammon
[10:02] <sv> is there a way to upgrade from jaunty to lucid? do-release-upgrade says: "An upgrade from 'jaunty' to 'lucid' is not supported with this tool."
[10:03] <sv> or is a plain re-installation the only way?
[10:03] <codekK> Mikey^, but cinammon is a other Desktop enviornment no?
[10:03] <DarwinSurvivor> sv: good grief, LUCID?!?
[10:03] <Mikey^> codekK: yes.
[10:03] <lusuhard_> DarwinSurvivor... any tip?
[10:03] <Mikey^> codekK: as far as I know, there are no customization possibilities for gnome classic
[10:03] <DarwinSurvivor> lusuhard_: My guess is it's either VNC being slow or the fact that you are running 2 OS's on 1GB of ram
[10:04] <obscurant1st> !ubottu
[10:04] <DJones> lusuhard_: This is what I was looking at, http://androlinux.com/android-ubuntu-development/how-to-install-ubuntu-on-rooted-transformer-prime/ it does say "It does run much faster in shell (than Galaxy Tab 10.1) but running Gnome via VNC has its limits, quad-core doesn’t seem to help at all for that."
[10:04] <codekK> I know it
[10:04] <DarwinSurvivor> sv: sorry, ?!? should have been for jaunty. Which has been EOL since 2010
[10:04] <codekK> but i dont understand, why i dont have a default bar :S
[10:04] <sv> DarwinSurvivor, or tell me, how to go to precise
[10:04] <sv> ;p
[10:04] <sv> ahh
[10:05] <DarwinSurvivor> sv: see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28operating_system%29#Releases for the schedule. At this point, you are best off with a reinstall (you can preserve your home folders during reinstall)
[10:05] <Mikey^> codekK: what you mean default bar? Dont you have the two panels ?
[10:05] <codekK> sv, to update i think do-release-upgrade -d
[10:05] <codekK> Mikey^, yes i have the two panels
[10:05] <Mikey^> ok
[10:05] <codekK> but with grey color like gnome2
[10:05] <DarwinSurvivor> codekK: can you post a screenshot of what you have *now* and a screenshot of another machine of what you *want* (google images is your friend)
[10:05] <lusuhard_> DJones also... a problem to fix... how to reboot linux? do I have to launch it from terminal?? how to get a shell in android?
[10:05] <lusuhard_> like Adb shell?
[10:05] <DarwinSurvivor> !eol | sv
[10:05] <sv> codekK, that the same message, no updae
[10:05] <codekK> DarwinSurvivor, i post screenshot... before but np
[10:06] <codekK> DarwinSurvivor, Mike9863
[10:06] <codekK> http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/7162/capturadepantallade2012.png
[10:06] <codekK> its the image -.-' its like a gnome2 :S
[10:06] <sv> DarwinSurvivor, thx
[10:06] <DarwinSurvivor> sv: ubuntu only support upgrading one release at a time (ex: Jaunty to Karmic). The problem is, BOTH of those are EOL, so an upgrade isn't possible
[10:07] <DJones> lusuhard_: As I said, I've only looked that website, its not something I've tried, it might be worth posting in that xda forum thread I posted, they're probably the best people to ask
[10:07] <lusuhard_> ok then, let's open a thread if there isn't
[10:07] <DocPlatypus> DarwinSurvivor: can't you go LTS to LTS as well?
[10:08] <lusuhard_> DJones ok then, let's open a thread if there isn't (i'm doin' it)
[10:08] <DarwinSurvivor> codekK: ok, 2 questions: what version did you install to begin with (the *original* install) and what version are you running now?
[10:08] <codekK> First i do a upgrade from 10.04 but i have a lot of issues then i do a clean install
[10:08] <codekK> 12.04 from Alternate 64bits
[10:08] <DarwinSurvivor> lusuhard_: I *think* you can go LTS to LTS, but his version and the next are both EOL and neither is LTS
[10:09] <codekK> I fix the problems with nVidia graphics
[10:09] <codekK> and now i have this problems
[10:09] <codekK> I update from 10.04 to 12.04 only for new dark panel gnome3 and i dont have it :S :(
[10:09] <DarwinSurvivor> codekK: ok, so you did a clean install of 12.04 and then what Desktop Environment did you chose when you logged in?
[10:10] <codekK> gnome classic
[10:10] <codekK> without effects
[10:10] <morsnowski> the one you expect ont the right hand side ?
[10:10] <DarwinSurvivor> codekK: what about the panel do you want, some special new functionality, or just for it to be black?
[10:11] <T-Guy> any girls here?
[10:11] <DarwinSurvivor> !ot | T-Guy
[10:11] <T-Guy> just wanted to know what percent of girls use freenode for ubuntu support, lol
[10:12] <codekK> DarwinSurvivor, i just want this gnome classic panel http://www.google.es/imgres?hl=es&biw=1280&bih=817&gbv=2&tbm=isch&tbnid=zNkSdNPEp6irwM:&imgrefurl=http://www.marcusmoeller.ch/misc/try-gnome3-with-fallback-mode.html&docid=PluaUjX5Sa_ZXM&imgurl=http://www.marcusmoeller.ch/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/GNOME3_Fallback.png&w=1366&h=768&ei=Es-0T6GlF8WQ0AXFx7HjDw&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=943&vpy=167&dur=1257&hovh=168&hovw=300&tx=188&ty=83&sig=104593222123631943667&
[10:12] <codekK> page=1&tbnh=109&tbnw=193&start=0&ndsp=20&ved=1t:429,r:4,s:0,i:79
[10:13] <codekK> ui sorry
[10:13] <DarwinSurvivor> T-Guy: even if this were an appropriate subject matter, that would only tell you what percent of people using the channel are girls, not what percent of female ubuntu users use the channel (unless you know the total # of female ubuntu users)
[10:13] <codekK> here -> http://www.marcusmoeller.ch/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/GNOME3_Fallback.png
[10:13] <edmont> hi
[10:13] <david> hi all ,
[10:13] <codekK> i want ths panel
[10:13] <codekK> -.- :S
[10:13] <FloodBot1> codekK: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:13] <david> i have a question of cryptsetup
[10:13] <DarwinSurvivor> codekK: your link got broken in half, please use a url shortener
[10:13] <Mikey^> codekK: did you try changing the theme
[10:13] <DarwinSurvivor> codekK: that panel has nothing to do with gnome3 and is little more than a theme
[10:14] <david> how to change the name of default preseed installation cryptsetup cryptodevice to a custom name , in my case the default name i am getting during preseed installation with crypto methord is sda5_crypt
[10:14] <david> i want to change ito some other name for security reasons
[10:14] <codekK> DarwinSurvivor, what its ? :S then
[10:14] <david> please advice how to do it
[10:15] <DarwinSurvivor> codekK: you can *try* http://gnome-look.org/ but I highly doubt anyone makes ubuntu-classic themes because hardly anyone uses it.
[10:15] <DarwinSurvivor> codekK: s/ubuntu-classic/gnome-classic
[10:16] <david> Like the following entry d-i partman-crypto/passphrase  , is there any entry to give a name to crypt device during preseed
[10:16] <Mikey^> codekK: but try changing the theme to clearlooks or something and see what happens
[10:16] <codekK> I cant change colro :S
[10:16] <codekK> or theme
[10:16] <codekK> :S
[10:16] <Athenon> whenever I run the su command to login as a different user, it hangs for like 20 seconds and i have no idea why (ubuntu server 10.04)
[10:17] <codekK> DarwinSurvivor, but when i install GNOME3 in other distr like fedora, debian, arch.. the default panel its fallback :S
[10:17] <codekK> and in other computer I install ubuntu 12.04 and the dark panel set by default :S
[10:17] <Mikey^> Install the gnome tweak tool
[10:17] <codekK> Is not the official theme?
[10:17] <DarwinSurvivor> codekK: gnome-classic was basically a "transition" desktop that people found worked fairly well on old hardware before they optimized gnome-shell. it's really not very well supported and shouldn't be considered a drop-in replacement for gnome-3 (it just *looks* like it)
[10:17] <codekK> ahm
[10:17] <Linuxsapien> good afternoon.. how do I get the old Gnome back? I miss the app-menu and clock being on the left side. thanks
[10:18] <alumno20> windows better
[10:18] <iceroot> Athenon: /var/log/auth.log may have some usefulll infos
[10:18] <ikonia> alumno20: can we help you ?
[10:18] <Mikey^> Linuxsapien: use mate
[10:18] <iceroot> Athenon: maybe you are using slapd instead of /etc/passwd
[10:18] <ring0> !nounity | LinuxMonkey
[10:18] <alumno20> yes
[10:18] <david> Can anyone please healp me on the cryptsetup issue
[10:18] <alumno20> please
[10:18] <Linuxsapien> Mikey^ it doesnt feel right though
[10:18] <iceroot> Athenon: what about "getpasswd" is it slow too?
[10:18] <Athenon> iceroot:  i'm using both, actually
[10:18] <DarwinSurvivor> codekK: are you looking for this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNOME_Shell (screenshot in top-right)?
[10:18] <iceroot> Athenon: then you know the reason
[10:19] <Athenon> iceroot:  what package is getpasswd in?
[10:19] <DarwinSurvivor> !find getpasswd
[10:19] <alumno20> i'm so angry
[10:19] <DarwinSurvivor> !ask | alumno20
[10:19] <llutz_> Athenon: gpasswd   you mean?
[10:20] <alumno20> do you like swimming?
[10:20] <iceroot> Athenon: hm, i thoght it was "getpasswd" to get all users from passwd and slapd
[10:20] <ring0> !nounity | Linuxsapien :)
[10:20] <ikonia> alumno20: this channel is for ubuntu techncai support discussion
[10:20] <ikonia> alumno20: do you need something within that topic ?
[10:20] <DarwinSurvivor> alumno20: please either A) ask a question B) help someone ELSE with a question C) stop spamming the channel
[10:20] <Mikey^> !ot | alumno20
[10:20] <llutz_> iceroot: getent passwd
[10:20] <iceroot> llutz_: yes
[10:21] <iceroot> Athenon: getent passwd
[10:21] <david> Can anyone please healp me on a cryptsetup issue i am facing during preseed installation
[10:21] <iceroot> Athenon: is that slow too?
[10:21] <Athenon> iceroot:  nope
[10:21] <Athenon> iceroot:  super fast actually
[10:21] <alumno20> i have ubuntu but i thint that windows is better. What doy you think?
[10:21] <ikonia> alumno20: doesn't matter what we think, matters what you think
[10:21] <ikonia> alumno20: if you like windows better, use windows
[10:21] <DJones> alumno20: There isn't a best, people use what suits them
[10:22] <codekK> DarwinSurvivor, yes i want it but without shell
[10:22] <Mikey^> alumno20: you can also use both if there exists a need
[10:22] <alumno20> my school use ubuntu because is free
[10:22] <ikonia> alumno20: do you need support / technical discussion on ubuntu ?
[10:22] <alumno20> because spanish crisis
[10:22] <DarwinSurvivor> codekK: you want gnome-shell but without gnome-shell?
[10:22] <iceroot> alumno20: freedom is much more important then no costs
[10:22] <codekK> no!!!
[10:23] <nibalizer> FREEDOM
[10:23] <nibalizer> WOUOOOOOOO
[10:23]  * nibalizer starts a riot in #ubuntu
[10:23] <alumno20> do you speak spanish?
[10:23] <Myrtti> !offtopic
[10:23] <Myrtti> !es
[10:23] <ikonia> the topic of this channel is ubuntu technical support discussion, stick to that
[10:23] <codekK> DarwinSurvivor, see this image http://www.marcusmoeller.ch/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/GNOME3_Fallback.png
[10:23] <ikonia> ok - enough
[10:23] <Linuxsapien> ring0 thank you, Ill look into that :D *(sorry for late reply)
[10:23] <DarwinSurvivor> codekK: I'm confused. If the only problem with your desktop is that the panel isn't "black" enough, then the answer is to find a black theme
[10:23] <Athenon> iceroot:  in auth.log, it gives me a reverse mapping error around the time that it quits hanging.  i put UseDNS no in sshd_config, but it doesnt do anything
[10:23] <codekK> this is Gnome3 with out gnome-shell
[10:23] <Athenon> iceroot:  or rather, it doesnt help that problem
[10:24] <ring0> Linuxsapien, yw
[10:24] <alumno20> What's your name?
[10:24] <david> Can anyone please help me on  a cryptsetup issue i am facing during preseed installation
[10:24] <Mikey^> codekK: please try installing gnome tweak tool
[10:24] <iceroot> Athenon: what does sshd_config has to do with su - username?
[10:24] <david> Can anyone please help me on  a cryptsetup issue i am facing during preseed installation
[10:24] <Athenon> iceroot:  its an sshd error.....
[10:24] <codekK> Mikey^, ok im trying it
[10:24] <DJones> !ot | alumno20
[10:24] <iceroot> !details | david
[10:24] <alumno20> david tu tienes pinta de ser español
[10:24] <iceroot> Athenon: hm, interesting
[10:24] <Athenon> iceroot:  May 17 04:54:53 subaru sshd[7969]: reverse mapping checking getaddrinfo for CENSORED [CENSORED] failed - POSSIBLE BREAK-IN ATTEMPT!
[10:25] <iceroot> Athenon: ah ok
[10:25] <ohad_> hello
[10:25] <Athenon> iceroot:  wait, that's unrelated actually.
[10:25] <sirlark> I have shared a folder on lucid server by editing /ets/samba/smb.conf by hand. On the windows 7 pro PC, I have two users. One has a password (the admin user) and can't view the share (username and password incorrect). The user with no password can view the share just fine. Is there a way I can really really force samba to allow anyone to view and modify stuff inside a share
[10:25] <iceroot> Athenon: yes you are using su - username and pam is trying to identify the user which is coming from ssh and wants to resolv the user
[10:25] <Athenon> iceroot:  that's a different login attempt via sftp.  heh.
[10:25] <iceroot> Athenon: ok
[10:26] <Athenon> iceroot:  still though, im stumped.  syslog doesnt show anything, auth.log doesnt show anything, etc
[10:26] <iceroot> Athenon: maybe you can use "ssh -vvv user@host  and then try your su - username
[10:26] <Athenon> iceroot:  regular logins (using ldap users) are not slow, so it shouldnt be ldap methinks
[10:26] <codekK> Mikey^, its installe i go to relogin
[10:26] <ohad_> I would like to report a security problem with ubuntu 12.04. My password works with both keyboard layouts. Meaning I have two passowrds for my same account.
[10:26] <iceroot> Athenon: maybe ssh is the reason and you will get some usefull infos
[10:27] <iceroot> Athenon: only passwd users?
[10:27] <iceroot> Athenon: you have kerberos?
[10:27] <DarwinSurvivor> ohad_: did you try them both from the login screen, the lock screen, or both?
[10:27] <Athenon> iceroot:  passwd and ldap users login at the same speed in all cases
[10:27] <ohad_> both from lock screen
[10:27] <david> "I have a problem with Cryptsetup , I'm running Ubuntu version 12.04  When I try to do a preseed installation with crypto methord for hard disk, I get the following output: the crypto device name is set to sda5_crypt , but I want a way to set the crypt device name to something else for security reasons , how to change the device name for crypt during preseed installation"
[10:27] <DarwinSurvivor> ohad_: *important note*: the login screen uses the system's keyboard layout, the lock screen uses that user's keyboard layout
[10:28] <DarwinSurvivor> ohad_: just a sec
[10:28] <Athenon> iceroot:  using ssh -vvv, theres no debug messages during the time that it hangs.
[10:29] <ohad_> Darwin4Ever, I don't quite get you.. I was able to type my password by pressing on the same keys but using different languages, in the lock screen
[10:29] <iceroot> Athenon: strace su - username  mayb you can see some loops
[10:29] <DarwinSurvivor> ohad_: does your password by any chance only use characters that are the same in both layouts...?
[10:30] <DarwinSurvivor> ohad_: and did you try typing your password the *other* way to make sure it's not just ignoring the layout setting?
[10:30] <Mikey^> Commander1024_:
[10:30] <ServerCrash> hi i have got dual screen setup done using twinview (nvidia card). Now what i want is screens should remain sticky even if i remove one screen
[10:30] <Athenon> iceroot:  apparently in hangs on "poll([{fd=4, events=POLLIN}], 1, 25000) = 0 (Timeout)"
[10:30] <ohad_> Darwin4Ever, I use hebrew and english keyboard layouts. there are no characters that are the same, except for the numbers in my password
[10:30] <ServerCrash> what happens currently if i remove screen1 and reboot, then screen 2 becomes screen1
[10:30] <Athenon> iceroot:  (timeout) appears as soon as the hanging stops
[10:30] <codekK> Mikey^, thanks a lot !!!ç
[10:31] <iceroot> Athenon: then its trying to reach something in that hanging-time
[10:31] <codekK> I just install gnome-tweak-tool and the new theme is installed !
[10:31] <Mikey^> codekK: Good!
[10:31] <codekK> Thanks u too DarwinSurvivor  :)
[10:31] <ohad_> I can switch between languages in the lock screen, choosing between en and he.
[10:31] <iceroot> Athenon: but the question is, what is it trying to reach...
[10:32] <codekK> and the other question, is normal to get a "power" button like a gear?
[10:32] <DarwinSurvivor> ohad_: ok, and if you leave it on one of the languages, can you type your password either way for it to work?
[10:32] <david> "I have a problem with Cryptsetup , I'm running Ubuntu version 12.04  When I try to do a preseed installation with crypto methord for hard disk, I get the following output: the crypto device name is set to sda5_crypt , but I want a way to set the crypt device name to something else for security reasons , how to change the device name for crypt during preseed installation  : """i am using d-i partman-auto/method string crypto""" to set
[10:32] <codekK> (see screenshot http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/7162/capturadepantallade2012.png )
[10:32] <DarwinSurvivor> codekK: yes, that is the new icon
[10:32] <Mikey^> codekK: thats based on your icon pack seeting
[10:32] <codekK> Ok
[10:32] <codekK> thanks
[10:32] <codekK> and sorry for being so heavy
[10:33] <iceroot> david: for security reasons? like?
[10:33] <obscurant1st> is there any command to remove repository which has been added with add-apt-repository?
[10:34] <Mikey^> obscurant1st: see if you find it in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[10:34] <david> security reasons viz running vpn services on a ubuntu client
[10:34] <ohad_> Darwin4Ever, I can type the password in both keyboard layouts only in the lock screen. I check the terminal, and there it didn't work
[10:34] <iceroot> david: and what is the security issue?
[10:35] <david> the rsa will authenticate the ubuntu client based on the name of the cryptdevice
[10:35] <obscurant1st> Mikey^: yes its there. But I would like to know if there is any command as such :)
[10:36] <iceroot> david: you design that concept?
[10:36] <david> yes
[10:36] <DarwinSurvivor> ohad_: well, in that case, you should file a bug report and label it with "security" so that the security team (which checks bugs VERY regularly) will look into it
[10:36] <iceroot> david: sorry but that is absolute stupid
[10:37] <obscurant1st> And btw is there any application for ubuntu which can take the screenshot, upload it to somewhere, and then copy the uploaded url to the clipboard?
[10:37] <iceroot> david: use a normal private/public ndesign
[10:37] <david> why , i dont want to authenticate my rsa service on sda5_crypt which is by default in preseed installation , i want to change it to something other than the sda5_crypt
[10:37] <iceroot> david: key
[10:37] <ohad_> Do I need to be a registered user at launchpad for that?
[10:37] <david> so that only authorized ubuntu clients can connect using rsa
[10:38] <Mikey^> obscurant1st: sudo add-apt-repository --remove repo
[10:38] <DarwinSurvivor> ohad_: yes, but registration is very quick and the only e-mails you will get (other than 1 activation e-mail) are for the bugs you submit or subscribe to
[10:38] <obscurant1st> oh ok, thanks Mikey^  :D
[10:38] <david> i already have a mechanism for authentication in place based on the crypt device name
[10:39] <Mikey^> obscurant1st: I googled it. I also learnt something :) I usually just use rm
[10:39] <ohad_> will my account in ubuntu forums work for launchpad?
[10:39] <iceroot> david: so you have something like a mac-filter, only clients with a specific mac/string/device are able to connect and then use a REAL authentication?
[10:39] <david> yes
[10:39] <DarwinSurvivor> ohad_: I think so, they converted a bunch of them to OpenID, so I think it is all one account now
[10:39] <obscurant1st> Mikey^: I tryioed google, but didn't find! Obviously you're a better googler than I am.
[10:39] <Mikey^> :)
[10:40] <david> iceroot : yes
[10:40] <ohad_> great! I'll do it after I restart so I will check it again
[10:40] <david> iceroot : i think you got my point
[10:40] <iceroot> david: i dont see the reason to use the device-name first
[10:40] <obscurant1st> btw Mikey^ Do you happen to know any tools which can take the screenshot, upload it to somewhere and then copy the uploaded url to clipboard?
[10:40] <iceroot> david: its the same a a macfilter, absolute useless
[10:40] <Mikey^> obscurant1st: no..
[10:40] <iceroot> david: just use a save mathod for authentication
[10:41] <obscurant1st> :/
[10:41] <Mikey^> obscurant1st: you could use curl, I guess.. and try to do it
[10:41] <DarwinSurvivor> obscurant1st: not that I know of
[10:41] <david> but is there a way to change the crypt device name , since i dont want to go back on code review on my authentication system
[10:42] <obscurant1st> Mikey^: there is script which uses dropbox to do it! I could give it a try! :)
[10:42] <obscurant1st> DarwinSurvivor: ^^
[10:42] <Mikey^> Neat
[10:43] <iceroot> david: with dm-crypt yes
[10:43] <david> iceroot : please advice how do i do that
[10:44] <iceroot> david: you have a raid/lvm or plain /dev/sdX encryption?
[10:44] <david> lvm
[10:44] <Osakasa> obscurant1st, you can with shutter take a screenshot, upload (e.g. with ubuntuone) and copy the uploaded url.
[10:44] <Athenon> iceroot:  AWESOME!  fixed.  all I had to do was go through /etc/pam.d and comb out all the references to winbind since i dont use it
[10:44] <david> lvm encryption
[10:45] <obscurant1st> Osakasa: Yeah I tried shutter, but its not what I am lllllllllllllllooking for! :/
[10:45] <david> in cryptsetup , there is no way to rename the device name , apart from creating or remove
[10:45] <Osakasa> ok :/
[10:45] <obscurant1st> ooops* sorry for the repeated ls
[10:45] <Linuxsapien> ok thats that sorted
[10:45] <iceroot> david: then you can even start to give your lvm a different name
[10:46] <david> yes , i am giving my lvm a different name than the default using the ubuntu preseed guide
[10:46] <david> but there is nothing for crypto
[10:46] <Linuxsapien> now "appearance settings" is telling me "this theme will not look at intended because the required GTK+ theme engine 'clearlooks' is not installed", would I just apt-get that?
[10:47] <Mikey^> Linuxsapien: yes
[10:47] <Linuxsapien> ok Mikey^ :)
[10:48] <iceroot> david: you want to change the name shown by "vgdisplay"?
[10:48] <Linuxsapien> there is no "clearlooks", do I add something else?
[10:48] <Mikey^> Linuxsapien: search for gtk2-engines-clearlooks
[10:49] <Linuxsapien> will do
[10:49] <phanimahesh> i need some help.
[10:49] <phanimahesh> can someone confirm that clicking on launcher icon doesn't minimize window?
[10:49] <Mikey^> !ask | phanimahesh
[10:49] <david> i have already changed the name shown by vgdisplay , i want to change the name shown by cryptsetup , cryptsetup status sdaX_crypt
[10:49] <DarwinSurvivor> phanimahesh: yes, I can confirm that
[10:50] <phanimahesh> DarwinSurvivor: Thanks. Filing a bug.
[10:50] <Linuxsapien> Mikey^ it told me I have them uptodate, weird
[10:50] <iceroot> david: ah ok, sorry i dont know how to change that name, just know how to change the one from vgdisplay
[10:50] <Mikey^> Linuxsapien: yeah. What theme are you trying?
[10:51] <Linuxsapien> a custom one, Mikey^
[10:51] <Mikey^> Linuxsapien: ok. could also be a mismatch is version of the clearlooks engine and the theme you are trying
[10:51] <DarwinSurvivor> phanimahesh: *trust me* it is not a bug!
[10:51] <Linuxsapien> Mikey^  well a mixture of "customise"
[10:52] <Mikey^> Linuxsapien: Ah. ok
[10:52] <DarwinSurvivor> phanimahesh: it was a design decision by the unity team, it's not the most popular decision, but I do see why they did it
[10:52] <Linuxsapien> im gathering I need to find where the conf file is for themes?
[10:52] <phanimahesh> DarwinSurvivor: can i have more details?
[10:52] <Mikey^> Linuxsapien: /usr/share/themes/?
[10:52] <Linuxsapien> ill look
[10:53] <DarwinSurvivor> phanimahesh: that decision is one of the most frequent unity discussions on brainstorm. There have been *multiple* bugs filed about it, but the unity team has made no sign of changing the decision
[10:53] <Anomie21> How come I can't attach files (in gmail, etc) that are on network drives, I need to locate them in nautilus, copy them to my desktop - then attach?
[10:54] <piglit> is trine a good game?
[10:55] <phanimahesh> DarwinSurvivor: I found no bugs when searching!! :(
[10:55] <Dark-chc> anomie21 you should do it in the conventional way
[10:55] <Dark-chc> you have to do that to attach??
[10:55] <Anomie21> Dark-chc: What do you mean?
[10:56] <Mikey^> Anomie21: cant you access the drives in file browser when you try to attach
[10:56] <Anomie21> Mikey^: nope
[10:56] <Anomie21> They aren't visible
[10:56] <Mikey^> Anomie21: Can you copy the address from nautilus and copy it in the filename field in the attach file dialog?
[10:57] <DarwinSurvivor> sorry about that, my FreeBSD server is having a bad day :(
[10:57] <Dark-chc> did you try searching where the file is?
[10:58] <Dark-chc> root/my documents
[11:01] <Mischinka> I have an package dependent on libmysql16 and im using ubuntu 12.04 is there a workaround to install this .deb
[11:02] <phanimahesh> Can someone confirm that there are bugs reported on not being able to minimize using launcher?
[11:02] <Mikey^> phanimahesh: I think DarwinSurvivor confirmed that
[11:02] <jrib> phanimahesh: bugs.ubuntu.com
[11:02] <action09> hi #ubuntu
[11:03] <Mikey^> Hello action09
[11:03] <phanimahesh> Mikey^:  But i dont find any, perhaps i'm searching wrong
[11:03] <Anomie21> Mikey^: How can you copy from nautilus?
[11:03] <DarwinSurvivor> phanimahesh: it's not a bug, it was a design decision made by the unity team, there are a LOT of users that don't like it, but it's to reduce confusion because the icons already do a lot and there is already a (-) button *dedicated* to minimizing the current application
[11:03] <action09> i want to have a daily email, with the commands (history) typed by all users, any clue please ? using a pam module ?
[11:03] <action09> hi Mikey^ :)
[11:03] <Mikey^> Anomie21: i meant copy the address from the address bar and paste that address in the file browser dialog that opens up when you attach a file
[11:04] <Anomie21> Mikey^: There is no address bar
[11:04] <Anomie21> This is my screen : http://i.imgur.com/pQY8T.png
[11:04] <Mikey^> Anomie21: try F6
[11:04] <Mischinka> Or is there a way to install libmysql16 on ubuntu 12.04?
[11:04] <Mikey^> Mischinka: or Ctrl + L
[11:05] <phanimahesh> DarwinSurvivor: It can be a feature-request bug. Sorry if i'm being too stubborn here.
[11:05] <Anomie21> Mikey^: F6 just highlights the folder I'm in
[11:05] <Mischinka> Mikey^: ctrl + L?
[11:06] <Mikey^> sorry, that was meant to Anomie21
[11:06] <Anomie21> CTRL+L doesnt do anything afaik
[11:06] <jrib> phanimahesh: here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/733349
[11:07] <DarwinSurvivor> phanimahesh: I'm 99.99% positive there is already a feature-request bug report because we've had over TEN brainstorm requests for it already. It may be marked as "won't implement" so make sure you aren't just searching for "open" bugs
[11:07] <livtyler> Hello, can EAP and LDAP as a bind user store can coexist without interfering with each one?
[11:08] <livtyler> I'm using ubuntu and freeradius
[11:09] <phanimahesh> jrib: Thanks.
[11:10] <jrib> phanimahesh: google turns up some ppa with the feature you want.  You can try that if you really want it I suppose but remember that software won't be supported: https://launchpad.net/~ojno/+archive/unity-minimize-on-click
[11:10] <phanimahesh> DarwinSurvivor: ok, so thats what i was doing wrong. Thanks. :) I'll help in building up bug heat by urging users to mark it as affecting. for now.
[11:11] <jrib> phanimahesh: there's also this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1967822 .  Again, this is unsupported
[11:13] <cristian_c> Hi
[11:13] <cristian_c> How can I identify alsa modules?
[11:15] <phanimahesh> jrib: Thanks. They have all info i was looking for.
[11:16] <Anomie21> Nobody else experience this problem (Network drives not visible from Chrome 'Attach a file') ??
[11:16] <Shanth> is there any download manager with pause/play options
[11:17] <v2342b5> hey folk. i remember there was a tool i could pipe text to and that would cut it nicely. ie i could tail a file and lines that are longer than my terminal would be cut off instead of continued on the next line. any idea what tool that was?
[11:17] <ohad_> Shanth, I use JDownloader
[11:18] <Shanth> JDownloader , after reboot it aagain starts the download from begining ..
[11:18] <v2342b5> the host you are trying to download from might not support resuming
[11:18] <ohad_> there's a paus and stop button for JDownloader
[11:19] <Shanth> i'm downloading UBUNTU 12 from its website
[11:19] <Linuxsapien> how come some programs dont use the theme specified, Mikey^  ?
[11:20] <Mikey^> Linuxsapien: maybe its not a gtk program
[11:20] <Linuxsapien> clementine music player... is there a way to force them ?
[11:21] <Kangarooo> whats oposite of sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[11:22] <Kangarooo> cant remove *.deb with -r or -p
[11:22] <jrib> Kangarooo: apt-get remove package1 package2 ...
[11:22] <jrib> Kangarooo: but this isn't really "opposite" since your dpkg -i could have just caused an upgrade.
[11:23] <Dark-chc> sudo apt-get remove purge --package1
[11:23] <auronandace> Linuxsapien: isn't clementine qt?
[11:24] <Mikey^> Linuxsapien: clementine is a qt program
[11:24] <Linuxsapien> damn, I want it to use my theme :(
[11:24] <Kangarooo> jrib: thx
[11:25] <Mikey^> Linuxsapien: use banshee or similar?
[11:25] <Mischinka> Does anyone know how to install libmysql16 on precise?
[11:26] <Mikey^> Mischinka: what version comes with 12.04?
[11:26] <Mischinka> libmysql18
[11:26] <Mikey^> Mischinka: you have been asking for a very long time..
[11:27] <Mischinka> but i have a .deb package that says it needs that.
[11:27] <jrib> Mischinka: what deb package?
[11:27] <Mikey^> Mischinka: did you try installing it?
[11:27] <Linuxsapien> Mikey^ I would but I have been using clementine since it got decent and try help out when I can.. no worries, Ill cope. Thanks for your help
[11:27] <Mikey^> Linuxsapien: ok :)
[11:28] <Mischinka> Mikey^ ape-server-i386 depends on libmysqlclient16 (>= 5.0.27-1); however:
[11:28] <Mikey^> Linuxsapien: kde has a setting to make gtk apps look like the qt theme.. but i dont think gnome does the same
[11:28] <Mikey^> Mischinka: try apt-get -f install and see what it says
[11:28] <Mikey^> Mischinka: does it recommend removing ape-server
[11:30] <Mischinka> Mikey^: http://pastebin.com/PMwW7s96
[11:30] <jrib> Mischinka: you should ask/create/find a proper package for precise
[11:31] <Dr_willis> Hmm. Still getting where after Unity is running for a long time. (like 12+ hrs) the desktop gets real laggy. a Logout/backin fix's it. Not seeint any one thing sucking down a lot of CPU. Other then X itself.
[11:31] <hariom> iceroot: I have installed xserver but still I don't get GUI
[11:31] <jrib> Dr_willis: happen with a different environment?  A different video card driver (if possible)?
[11:32] <Dr_willis> jrib,  seems to happen with Lubntu also.
[11:32] <Mischinka> jrib: they have a github and a tar.gz both which i couldnt figure out how to install from.
[11:32] <Dr_willis> Tried the nvidia drivers from the repos. trying the xswat edgy ones now.  so not sure what to try next. watching htop output. X itself seems to be taking 42%+ of the cpu just sitting here running xchat.
[11:33] <jrib> Mischinka: have you asked them why their package depends explicitly on that version of libmysql?  And whether the version in precise is satisfactory?
[11:33] <Dr_willis> i wonder what the TIME+ Colum means in htop. its showing X at 2x the time tht compiz has used.
[11:34] <jrib> Dr_willis: cpu time (man top is better for this)
[11:35] <Mischinka> jrib: no, i figured there would be a work around for this sort of thing.
[11:35] <jrib> Mischinka: why? Get a proper package
[11:35] <cristian_c> An other question:
[11:35] <jrib> Mischinka: you can work around it, but a couple of months from now you'll regret it
[11:36] <Dr_willis> memory ussage is only 2% for /usr/bin/X but the Time is  higher then anything else.. guess that makes since.. since the cpu ussage is 10-50% just sitting here doing basically nothing
[11:36] <cristian_c> How can I activate pinch gesture with my touchpad in ubuntu?
[11:36] <Mischinka> jrib: why is that?
[11:37] <Dr_willis> brb - logging out to see if it clears it up
[11:37] <Mikey^> Mischinka: or you can compile your own package
[11:37] <oshirix> hai
[11:37] <Mikey^> ofcourse then, you will have to be in charge of updates/patches etc
[11:37] <jrib> Mischinka: because you're likely to "confuse" the package manager
[11:37] <oshirix> any malaysian here can speak malay?
[11:38] <Mikey^> oshirix: maybe there is a seperate channel?
[11:38] <oshirix> im juz new..any body can help me out?
[11:41] <Dr_willis> rebooted. reloaded X with the same apps.. now getting X using  0-1% in htop. instead of 20-50%   Not sure what to troubleshoot next.
[11:44] <Dan_E> why can I only login under ubuntu 2D
[11:45] <Dr_willis> when you login under 3d what happens?
[11:45] <Dan_E> no icons
[11:45] <Dr_willis> you mean no left side launcher panel?
[11:45] <arulmozhi> I want to install tamil language packages in precise pangolin. what are the package list.  to install to support that language.. chinese language is supported by default installation and why is that?? anybody??
[11:45] <Dan_E> yes
[11:46] <Dr_willis> You could try resetting the unity and compiz settings.  http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/how-to-reset-unity-launcher-icons-or.html
[11:46] <Dan_E> thank you
[11:46] <Dr_willis> Dan_E,  another test  befor reseting would be to make a new user - see if they have the same issue
[11:47] <Dan_E> ok
[11:47] <fdfds> hi guys. If I have written a script where I say like this "#!/bin/sh", I noticed it's executed in a different way depending if I run like ./script.sh or 'sh script.sh'. Why is this?
[11:47] <jrib> fdfds: in what different way?
[11:48] <lollisoft> Hi, I have installed an ubuntu system and before getting a grub error out of partition I have made a snapshot. /boot is on /dev/sda1 and / is on /dev/mapper as I am using LVM. Can this be repaired, before I retry installing java or make any other huge changes to the fs?
[11:48] <Dr_willis> lollisoft,  what sort of grub error?
[11:48] <lollisoft> error: out of partition
[11:49] <wer0ckz> ERASEPRIVATELOG
[11:49] <Dr_willis> cant say ive ever seen that error message befor. May want to check the grub2 docs to see what it means.
[11:50] <Mikey^> lollisoft: I think its when you mention a wrong partition and it does not exist
[11:50] <Dr_willis> lollisoft,  you could  also try the boot-repair tool from a live cd. like the grub2 factoid mentions
[11:50] <Dr_willis> !grub2
[11:51] <lollisoft> No I have a VM in VirtualBox and the only system is Ubuntu LTS 12.04
[11:51] <morsnowski> so you have a snaphot of a working system ?
[11:51] <Der-Sebo> hi
[11:51] <Der-Sebo> need help
[11:52] <lollisoft> Currently I am able to revert to the snapshot before that error, but I expect this will happen again.
[11:52] <v2342b5> ask away
[11:52] <lollisoft> yes
[11:52] <morsnowski> right where is the holdup then ?
[11:52] <Der-Sebo> user 12.04 tls and over vnc i can't open nautilus
[11:52] <fdfds> jrib: I have a line like this: 'sed -i 's/CHECK_PASS(\(.\+\), \(.\+\));/'"$(replace_positive_macro \\2 \\1)"'/g' "$i"' If I run it like 'sh script.sh', then the pattern is replaced with a string that contains  and  characters, but if I run it './fix.sh', replacements is ok.
[11:53] <fdfds> well I can't even print these characters here frin what I see
[11:53] <lollisoft> Yes, I reverted, but I expect the same error again when I repead installing open jdk. So my question is how to get around this? Is there a way around?
[11:53] <lollisoft> Hehe, repeat :-)
[11:54] <morsnowski> well i don't so java at all, i've banned it and would burn it if i could so with this one I can't help
[11:54] <morsnowski> ...don't do...
[11:56] <Dr_willis> lollisoft,  So somehow installing jdk broke grub? or did i miss somthing.
[11:56] <wadkar> errm, how do I ask this question... I want to "secure/lock" my portable HDD, so that only I can "look/unlock" it (password protection/encryption/something that only I can "undo") , _AND_ it should work on both Ubuntu and Windows
[11:57] <lollisoft> Yes, strange! Maybe the combination of VirtualBox, LVM and /boot at the second logical drive (/dev/sda1)
[11:57] <jpic> hi all, since last updates, evolution keeps failing at logging in to google calendar, any tip please ?
[11:58] <jpic> what happens is: it keeps poping up a prompt for the password, i type the password, and a little later it pops up again, claiming "Authentication failed" ....
[11:58] <wadkar> is there any software which can encrypt/decrypt data (on the fly) while writing to HDD , and can work both on Linux and Windows?
[11:59] <jpic> i did try to reconfigure the calendar in evolution, with right click->properties, retrieve list, prompted for pasword, selcted the calendar i want to use, saved
[11:59] <jpic> right now it just fetched the events, filled the calendar widget, but again it prompts for the password ....
[12:01] <MonkeyDust> !info bcrypt | wadkar
[12:03] <hariom> Is it possible that without running/installing GUI on the server (due to vulnarabilities and performance degradation of the server), from remote end I can access the server in GUI mode whenever I need to configure something that is better in GUI mode than command mode?
[12:03] <wadkar> MonkeyDust: sweet! thanks, I'll give it a go; I am comfortable using any utility on linux, but not so much on Windows, if you have used bcrypt on Windows, will you comment on its usage? (I ask, because others will be using it on windows)
[12:04] <lollisoft> Ok, I'll stop my ubuntu trialy today. I'll need to investigate more research...
[12:04] <lollisoft> Thanks all - bye
[12:06] <drussell> hariom: not really, you would at least to have the gui software installed on the remote server, then you could use ssh and X forwarding to get gui applications to appear on your workstation from the server, but they'd still need to be installed
[12:06] <drussell> hariom: I'd recommend you learn the commandline tools
[12:06] <drussell> hariom: or depending on what you need to do a web based control panel or similar
[12:07] <jrib> hariom: I agree with drussell.  Can you give an example where you believe you would prefer to use the gui?
[12:07] <fdfds> why scripts that contain "#!/bin/sh" are executed in a different way depending they are whether started like ./script.sh and 'sh script.sh"
[12:07] <jrib> fdfds: in what different way?
[12:07] <RFrith> ~
[12:07] <jrib> fdfds: never mind, I missed your previous response
[12:08] <wadkar> umm, looks like bcrypt wont fit into my use case. I will have to copy/write out decrypted file to some place, which would be cumbersome to do everytime, moreover, I may not have space/write access on the host machine, is there something which can do this on the fly? (like ssh communication is encrypted with your key/passphrase)
[12:09] <jrib> fdfds: can you pastebin you running it each way?
[12:10] <cgi101> im having problems with the dualboot win7/ubuntu12.04, after instal i got to the ubuntu login but i cant move my mous or keybeord
[12:11] <fdfds> jrib: the result or what?
[12:13] <jrib> fdfds: yeah
[12:13] <jrib> fdfds: and if you don't mind pastebinning the script, that's easier than having it in scrollback
[12:14] <ihipop> FloodBot1:test
[12:14] <jrib> fdfds: also I don't know the answer offhand, but you might try to see if the same thing happens using bash (and the corresponding shebang line).  If it does, then #bash may have a quicker answer for you.  I don't mind investigating here though
[12:18] <morsnowski> is there a log for of this channel somewhere ?
[12:19] <Dr_willis> !logs
[12:19] <Gyro54> hi!
[12:19] <MonkeyDust> morsnowski  http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/
[12:19] <quellhorst> I was doing 'do-release-upgrade -d' and it almost completed, just had some screens up telling me about configuration then my ssh connection was terminated. how can i go back to the package configure screens on a dist upgrade?
[12:19] <MonkeyDust> Dr_willis  was faster :)
[12:19] <morsnowski> MonkeyDust, thanks
[12:20] <Sidewinder> ubottu must feel a little unappreciated. :)
[12:20] <Sidewinder> Heh,.
[12:21] <tyler_d> lol
[12:21] <T_A_N_K> today i did the sudo update now everything freezes when i start it
[12:21] <hariom> drussell: yea, same I was also thinking. Thanks for it. Do you know any control panel that can be installed for taking backup etc.
[12:21] <Gyro54> I have changed from Unity to Gnome on 11.10. Can I upgrade to 12.04 and keep Gnome. The upgrade wants to remove Gnome
[12:21] <Sidewinder> T_A_N_K, Everything?
[12:21] <KM0201> Gyro54: negative
[12:21] <Dr_willis> Gyro54,  12.04 has gnome3 and  you can use gnome-shell
[12:21] <T_A_N_K> everthing
[12:22] <morsnowski> Gyro54, you can reinstall gnome very easily
[12:22] <Dr_willis> Gyro54,  i did not think gnome-shell was reliable on 11.10
[12:22] <KM0201> Gyro54: well, you can use Gnome, but not the gnome you're used to.
[12:22] <Dr_willis> 'these are not the gnomes you are looking for.....'
[12:22] <morsnowski> lol
[12:22] <Gyro54> I had to change from Unity as it doesn't work with NX
[12:22] <KM0201> NX?
[12:23] <Gyro54> I think Gnome 3 has the same problem
[12:23] <T_A_N_K> and then every time i open a report error window freezes and keeps opening others
[12:23] <KM0201> if you don't like Unity, you're better off looking at KDE, XFCE, or LXDE.
[12:23] <Gyro54> Nomachine
[12:23] <quellhorst> is there a command like "aptitude package configure" ? to configure installed/pending packages?
[12:24] <Sidewinder> Gyro54, If you do decide to go the 12.04 route, there is always this, as well..: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/03/gnome-classic-in-ubuntu-12-04-its-like-nothing-ever-changed/
[12:24] <Gyro54> I was starting to like Unity but I need NX to log into our work server
[12:24] <morsnowski> Gyro54, what is NX?
[12:24] <KM0201> Gyro54: i'm not sure how Unity affects that app, but i've never used it (doesn't make any sense to me to be honest)
[12:25] <drussell> Gyro54: hmm I know people who use NX and unity with no issues...
[12:25] <Gyro54> The Gnome desktop on 11.10 is very nice to use and is much faster than Unity
[12:25] <Dan_E> any other help on logging in to something other than ubuntu 2D?
[12:26] <Gyro54> NX has problems with Unity as we use it. They are working on a fix but it could be a long time
[12:27] <Gyro54> Sidewinder: I will have a look
[12:28] <Sidewinder> Gyro54, I'm not sure that it/those, will do what you need, but it was/is worth a shot. :)
[12:30] <cgi101> i cant login or use my mous
[12:30] <cgi101> anyoune know why
[12:30] <sk1special> okay. so ive installed compiz config. the water effects. the wobbly windows. awesome. the desktop cube. while it *works* and i can flip between screens..its not a cube. its flipping a sign around more like.
[12:31] <where_am_i> hi
[12:31] <cgi101> hello
[12:31] <Gyro54> The Gnome shell on 11.10 is very slick and works with NX. Is it the same as the 12.04 version or is it based on Gnome 2?
[12:31] <sk1special> and i do have dual extended display monitor setup. and now that ive flipped it. my smaller res monitor position..is over on the wrong side.
[12:31] <sk1special> like..the window fills each side.. but the desktop background has the smaller screen on the bigger one.
[12:31] <cgi101> i cant loggin the dual boot version of ubunto or even use my mous
[12:32] <cgi101> plz i need help
[12:33] <incognit0> Can I buy an ubuntu laptop from somewhere?
[12:33] <MonkeyDust> incognit0  zareason
[12:33] <incognit0> I know dell has that one POS vostro but I reallly don't want a garbage laptop :)
[12:33] <T_A_N_K> system76
[12:34] <MonkeyDust> cgi101  what happens when you try?
[12:34] <T_A_N_K> MokeyDust: https://www.system76.com/
[12:34] <T_A_N_K> monkeydust* https://www.system76.com/
[12:34] <cgi101> i boot into ubunto and i get to the login screen
[12:34] <MonkeyDust> T_A_N_K  tell incognit0
[12:34] <cgi101> i cant move my mous at first and i cant enter my pasword
[12:34] <T_A_N_K> incognit0 https://www.system76.com/
[12:34] <incognit0> T_A_N_K: I saw 67, I didn't really like it.
[12:34] <MonkeyDust> !who| T_A_N_K
[12:35] <cgi101> after a wile my mous starts to move but i cant click on anything
[12:35] <Dan_E> why can I only login under ubuntu 2D? When I login under 3D I have no icon bar. I tried resetting icons and a different user same problem.
[12:35] <incognit0> I'm uber picky about keyboards which is why I don't even own a laptop. Anyone else have this problem?
[12:35] <MonkeyDust> wrong factoid, i meant !tab
[12:35] <T_A_N_K> then build your own at tigerdirect and install ubuntu on it
[12:35] <quixotedon> cgi101: have you tried rebooting?
[12:36] <cgi101> 3 times
[12:36] <nyuszika7h> Hi, this is probably a trivial question, but how can I *remove* PPAs, as opposed to add them?
[12:36] <incognit0> T_A_N_K: Build my own laptop with parts from TD?
[12:36] <quixotedon> cgi101: and the same thing happens?
[12:36] <cgi101> exactly the same thing
[12:36] <nyuszika7h> I found it
[12:36] <nyuszika7h> add-apt-repository -r
[12:36] <cgi101> i am on a dual boot with win7 can that have somthing to do with it?
[12:37] <Gyro54> morsnowski: Is the Gnome shell on 11.10 the same as on 12.04
[12:37] <jackiechan0> could anyone help me to set samba? I can't get it working with the firewall on (the ports are opened)
[12:37] <wendico> is my data save in a ext4 partition from viruses of my ntfs file systems?
[12:37] <quixotedon> cgi101: can use your keyboard? i also use dual boot on win 7 as well
[12:37] <quixotedon> *can you
[12:37] <cgi101> im typing on it right now
[12:38] <quixotedon> cgi101: is your mouse using usb port? or is it a trackpad?
[12:38] <cclove> jackiechan0: what problems you meets
[12:38] <Gyro54> morsnowski: NX is a remote desktop
[12:38] <cgi101> usb its a logitech 69x laser
[12:38] <cclove> jackiechan0:And what you want to do
[12:38] <jackiechan0> cclove> i can't make it works with the firewall on, i have two Mint 11 machines and a windows 7 on the same subnet (windows 7 can see both the sharing of the windows machines)
[12:39] <incognit0> Can I build my own laptop? Is that actually an option?
[12:39] <jackiechan0> cclove> i want to make sharing working
[12:39] <MonkeyDust> incognit0  if you're skilled enough and know how to do it
[12:39] <cclove> jackiechan0:have you set the security=share in the smb.conf config file
[12:39] <incognit0> MonkeyDust: Ideas overwhelming with things I can do. I didn't think parts were available as readily as they were for desktops...
[12:39] <Sidewinder> wendico, Yes.
[12:40] <jackiechan0> cclove> no  what is this security=share ?
[12:40] <incognit0> MonkeyDust: I could totally cram everything into a keyboard like the old comodores.
[12:40] <cgi101> quixotedon; what can be the problem?
[12:40] <Guest66548> list
[12:40] <Guest66548> list
[12:40] <Guest66548> lista
[12:40] <Gyro54> Dr_willis: Is the Gnome shell on 11.10 the same as on 12.04
[12:40] <FloodBot1> Guest66548: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:40] <incognit0> Guest66548: Stop. Drop. Rtfm :).
[12:40] <Guest66548> ls
[12:40] <cclove> jackiechan0:if you want to config the samba server, you may to edit the config file which is /etc/samba/smb.conf
[12:40] <jackiechan0> cclove> ok
[12:41] <Guest66548> quit
[12:41] <quixotedon> cgi101: if you're using a usb port mouse, try using another port, and see if you have the same problem
[12:41] <Dr_willis> Gyro54,  gnome-shell has gone through a lot of updates since 11.10 came out.
[12:41] <Guest66548> exit
[12:41] <cgi101> ok
[12:41] <cgi101> let me reboot
[12:41] <Dr_willis> Gyro54,  if you want to use gnome-shell, i say upgrade to 12.04
[12:41] <cclove> jackiechan0: have a look at it , maybe you can do it now
[12:41] <quixotedon> Guest66548: no spamming please..
[12:41] <quixotedon> Dr_willis: is gnome-shell stable working on 12.04? you can say?
[12:42] <Gyro54> Dr_willis: I only updated last week and it is working fine on 11.10 but I am worried the 12.04 upgrade has a different version based on Gnome 3
[12:43] <Dr_willis> gnome-shell works quite well on 12.04
[12:43] <quixotedon> Dr_willis: i'll try to.. :) thanks for  your reference
[12:43] <Dr_willis> Gyro54,  11.10's gnome shell is most likely missing a lot of features in the current gnomeshell.. do what you want..
[12:44] <Dr_willis> i always do clean installs. ;)
[12:44] <Mairusu> Hello, is there a know issue with the 12.04 Alternate iso bittorent download? I've been trying to create a bootable USB stick with unetbootin and it, but failed everytime, there's a CRC error on a file
[12:44] <Gyro54> Dr_willis: Thanks
[12:44] <morsnowski> anybody ever had issues connecting thunderbird to gmail ?
[12:45] <ikonia> Mairusu: launchpad.net will document any known issues
[12:45] <bohemian9485> Mairusu: check the downloaded iso file using md5sum
[12:45] <Gyro54> morsnowski: No it is normally seamless
[12:45] <DJones> morsnowski: I use thunderbird with gmail, I've not had any issues with connections at all
[12:45] <morsnowski> i've done this a hundred time but now it keeps telling to "TB failed to find the settings"
[12:45] <Dr_willis> morsnowski,  i connected thunderbird to gmail just earlier today.
[12:45] <Dr_willis> morsnowski,  i did have to manually enter the settings..
[12:46] <quixotedon> morsnowski: i connected thunderbird in 11.10 and always failed to send email thus i consider not using any up to now.. :)
[12:46] <Mairusu> MD5 is correct
[12:46] <morsnowski> hmm what imap smtp server names and what authentication did you use #
[12:46] <morsnowski> ?
[12:46] <Mairusu> bcee4c03b704a9b62988505b7d8f3069 ubuntu-12.04-alternate-i386.iso  according to help.ubuntu.com, bcee4c03b704a9b62988505b7d8f3069 for what I have on my hard drive
[12:47] <JPeterso2> where do i find a list of package versions for ubuntu 11.10?
[12:47] <Dan_E> any way to get rid of screen flicker (changes color)
[12:47] <quixotedon> JPeterso2: you mean 11.10 download?
[12:48] <Nailoxx> can anyone help me with a simple bash script ?
[12:48] <JPeterso2> quixotedon: no apt packages
[12:48] <JPeterso2> i.e. for example the 'subversion' package version
[12:49] <ThePendulum> Isn't it possible to add an entire folder of wallpapers the the appearance settings and keep it there?
[12:49] <Mairusu> Problematic file on the alternate 32bit iso: /pool/main/l/linux/fs-secondary-modules-3.230.23-generic-pae-di_3.2.0-23.36_i386.udeb
[12:49] <Gyro54> morsnowski: I just setup TB with my gmail no problems
[12:49] <quixotedon> JPeterso2: http://askubuntu.com/questions/110450/how-to-download-source-files-for-ubuntu-11-10
[12:49] <cgi101> i boot into ubunto the loading screen was distorted, i go to the pasword the boot sound runs 3 times and crunches at the 4 time, my mous worked for 2 sec then everying frozeagter 1 min my mous moved again and i cant puch any button
[12:49] <scorpion_> how do i see all my apps installed from ubuntu software center.. how do i open them
[12:50] <Mairusu> Incorrect MD5 for this file, though the ISO as a whole has a correct MD5 sum
[12:50] <Mairusu> Anyone confirms this?
[12:50] <quixotedon> cgi101: what a terrible experience, so what are you using now?
[12:50] <cgi101> now im back on my win7
[12:50] <morsnowski> thats nuts same settings as on my laptop from the same IP address and still no joy, howvere the laptop does just fine . ..
[12:51] <JPeterso2> quixotedon: how does that show me the 11.10 vesion of the 'subversion' apt package?
[12:51] <cgi101> i dont get where the problem lies
[12:51] <rmg> new to ubuntu black ...is there a video streaming sftware like ustream producer
[12:51] <cgi101> is it my keybeor or mous, or is it my prosecor
[12:51] <ThePendulum> cgi101: That sounds rather strange... if the system boots at all, it probably isn't your CPU
[12:52] <JPeterso2> is subversion 1.7 in ubuntu 11.10?
[12:52] <ThePendulum> cgi101: Are you sure you closed the installation with success?
[12:52] <rmg> faulty drive where linux is home to
[12:52] <cgi101> yes
[12:52] <cgi101> it askt to reboot
[12:52] <rmg> I NEED A VIDEO STREAMING APP
[12:53] <MonkeyDust> caps
[12:53] <ThePendulum> rmg: VLC?
[12:53] <rmg> HELP PLZ ANY ONE
[12:53] <ThePendulum> rmg: Please lose the caps man... relax
[12:53] <MonkeyDust> rmg  don't shout please
[12:53] <rmg> sorry
[12:53] <ThePendulum> rmg: You will get help far more easily when you ask your question politely and relaxed
[12:53] <Dr_willis> rmg,  you will get better help by giving details of your needs.. theres a dozen+ ways to stream videos
[12:53] <Pici> JPeterso2: no, 1.7 is not yet in any of our releases.
[12:53] <rmg> usb keyboard be having a moment
[12:54] <ThePendulum> I doubt it
[12:54] <cgi101> am i missing somthing?
[12:54] <rmg> i have windows webserver 2003 running my website but no way of streaming live
[12:55] <donnyqiu> JPeterso2: http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/core/oneiric/universe/proposed/subversion
[12:55] <rmg> so i now use ubuntublack and thought it would be better
[12:55] <ThePendulum> Does anyone have experience setting up Ubuntu as a NAS?
[12:56] <Sidewinder> Mairusu, I'm not an md5, that said, it makes no sense to me that a file within the ISO is wrong but the entire ISO is correct.. Hmm..
[12:56] <Dr_willis> rmg, 'ubuntublack' ?
[12:56] <JPeterso2> donnyqiu: ok
[12:56] <rmg> yes
[12:56] <MonkeyDust> rmg  you mean blackbuntu?
[12:56] <donnyqiu> JPeterso2: it says 1.6 is the latest version but deleted.. :(
[12:56] <cgi101> ThePendulum got any idea whyat it cazn be
[12:56] <rmg> lol...yes
[12:56] <ThePendulum> cgi101: Windows works correctly, completely?
[12:57] <cgi101> yes
[12:57] <Sidewinder> Mairusu, Sorry; that didn't make sense, I forget the word 'expert' after md5.. :(
[12:57] <sk1special> got my of my issues fixed. but when  i click on a application via the launcher it doesnt auto switch to that application if its in another workspace like before.
[12:58] <MonkeyDust> rmg  guess blackbuntu is not supported here
[12:58] <ThePendulum> cgi101: There is no way to continue the log in?
[12:58] <cgi101> al the butons freeze up i cant use anything
[12:58] <rmg> so is there ustream like prog?
[12:58] <ikonia> rmg: blackbuntu is NOT supported here
[12:59] <MonkeyDust> rmg   "Blackbuntu is distribution for penetration testing which was specially designed for security training students and practitioners of information security."
[12:59] <cgi101> where lies the problem is it my input or my procesor or the the newest version of the os
[12:59] <Pici> !who
[12:59] <rmg> so is would there be a better linux for webstreaming video live?
[12:59] <ThePendulum> cgi101: It can't be the CPU really... your system wouldn't boot at all, let alone successfully run Windows
[13:00] <cgi101> its intel i7 overclock
[13:00] <ThePendulum> cgi101: Again... that doesn't matter
[13:01] <ThePendulum> cgi101: You could try to clock it normally just to see if that may cause the issue
[13:01] <cgi101> then my windows wont work anymore
[13:01] <ThePendulum> cgi101: Explain?
[13:01] <cgi101> i had alot of shit with that last time
[13:01] <cgi101> blue screen
[13:01] <Pici> cgi101: please mind your language here.
[13:01] <cgi101> ?
[13:02] <ThePendulum> cgi101: So Windows refuses to work when you do not overclock your CPU?
[13:02] <Pici> cgi101: don't curse.
[13:02] <ThePendulum> cgi101: Your language = 'shit'
[13:02] <cgi101> ow
[13:02] <cgi101> isnt that a part of the leungutch
[13:02] <ThePendulum> cgi101: I, personally, don't mind. But there are frequently people in this channel who really don't want to hear such words.
[13:02] <Pici> cgi101: This is a family friendly channel. Please do not curse here.
[13:03] <cgi101> wel im getting mad if s*** dousnt work
[13:03] <morsnowski> OK for future reference it is imap.gmail.com not imap.gmail.co, doh
[13:03] <ThePendulum> cgi101: It's virtually impossible to get a blue screen when NOT overclocking, you're either overclocking wrongly or doing something else completely wrong
[13:04] <ThePendulum> cgi101: I'd recommend resetting your motherboard and clock everything at their defaults
[13:04] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. trying to configure this network printer in 12.04, normally takes me 1 min under 11.10  - cant seem to get it working in 12.04 however.
[13:04] <cgi101> oke im reseting the cpu
[13:04] <ThePendulum> Dr_willis: I successfully used our Kyocera network office printer in Ubuntu 12.04
[13:05] <p3c0> Im using blackbox wm on a ubuntu 11.10 minimal machine. where should i put bbkeys entry so that it is started on boot?
[13:05] <morsnowski> how do i make this bleeping window snapping stop, i turned it off in compiz manager but it still does it
[13:05] <p3c0> i tried putting it in .xinitrc but it is not working
[13:05] <jackiechan0> Can i have help about samba? It doesn't works with the firewall on the right ports are opened
[13:06] <Dr_willis> all righty.. started printing.. ;) not sure why
[13:06] <cgi101> wierd its already on the lowest setings
[13:07] <cgi101> guys my overclock isnt overclock
[13:07] <cgi101> just little bit more power
[13:07] <quixotedon> cgi101: try setting your bios to default setting.. :) (without overclock)
[13:07] <ThePendulum> cgi101: More power... kinda is overclocking
[13:07] <cgi101> oke see you in 10 min
[13:08] <quixotedon> cgi101: i'm still not sure what's wrong though, since your windows version works fine
[13:08] <cgi101> yes i know
[13:08] <cgi101> wel il be back in some time
[13:09] <quixotedon> cgi101: sorry to bother you, it's something with trial and error to find the real problem
[13:13] <ajay__> hi
[13:13] <cclove> hi
[13:13] <ajay__> i have problem running skype
[13:13] <ajay__> need help
[13:13] <cclove> i do not know about that
[13:14] <ajay__> skype: error while loading shared libraries: libXss.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[13:14] <ajay__> anyone have idea about this error
[13:15] <ajay__> i trined to install libss1 but it is saying already installed
[13:17] <cgi101> still corrupt loading screen, 5 times introsound and same deal with the mous
[13:19] <cclove> ajay_:You need to install the libxss1 package for that library. If you're running the 32-bit version of Skype, ia32-libs needs to be installed instead of libxss1.
[13:19] <ManuRocca> Ciao
[13:19] <ManuRocca> !list
[13:19] <MonkeyDust> darn listalians
[13:20] <cgi101> im out of idea's
[13:21] <donnyqiu> cgi101: is this your first install?
[13:21] <DelphiWorld> hello folks
[13:21] <DelphiWorld> quick question
[13:21] <cgi101> 3rd time
[13:21] <morsnowski> is there a default sources file for 12.04 lts?
[13:21] <DelphiWorld> where i can configure my dns server on ubuntu server lts ?
[13:21] <DelphiWorld> 10.04
[13:21] <donnyqiu> cgi101: before?? did you upgrade or fresh install for this version?
[13:22] <cgi101> its dual boot and i havent goten past the login ever
[13:22] <DelphiWorld> anyone ?
[13:22] <ajay__> i am trying to install libxss1 it saying that it is already installed
[13:22] <DelphiWorld> i don't have a resolv.conf
[13:22] <MonkeyDust> !dns| DelphiWorld
[13:22] <ajay__> i am installing 64bit only
[13:24] <ajay__> sudo apt-get install libxss1
[13:24] <donnyqiu> cgi101: so you upgraded from 11.10?
[13:24] <cgi101> no i instaled it fresh
[13:24] <cgi101> i unistyald it 2 times today
[13:24] <v4nd3r> plz what's the chan for french speaker?
[13:24] <DJones> !fr | v4nd3r
[13:24] <MonkeyDust> v4nd3r  #ubuntu-fr
[13:25] <DelphiWorld> MonkeyDust: DYUDE
[13:25] <donnyqiu> cgi101: and you haven't successfully logged in?
[13:25] <DelphiWorld> MonkeyDust: DUDE
[13:25] <v4nd3r> thx a lot
[13:25] <v4nd3r> bye
[13:25] <DelphiWorld> MonkeyDust: this is a dns server. i just want to set up my dns resolv.conf to 8.8.8.8 or something !
[13:25] <cgi101> donnyqiu yes i cant use the login screen wat so ever
[13:25] <bHope> I'm having trouble updating my flash on 11.10.  Can anyone help?
[13:26] <donnyqiu> cgi101: i was upgrading from 11.10, not fresh install
[13:26] <cclove> ia32-libs needs to be installed instead of libxss1
[13:26] <JasonGriffee> How do I fource 1080p output on VGA? (12.04)
[13:26] <cgi101> donnyqiu do i have to video tape it for u
[13:26] <cgi101> so u can see it urself
[13:27] <DelphiWorld> CRAP... how to setup my dns server entry ;)
[13:27] <donnyqiu> cgi101: maybe other may also help.. a moment please.. :)
[13:27] <donnyqiu> cgi101: is it 32 or 64bit?
[13:27] <cgi101> idk
[13:27] <cgi101> the windows dual boot
[13:28] <cgi101> recomended
[13:28] <cgi101> 32bit (recomended) thats the version
[13:29] <donnyqiu> cgi101: are you using pc or laptop?
[13:29] <cgi101> pc
[13:29] <donnyqiu> cgi101: okay, now you're using 32 bit ubuntu 12.04 on your pc
[13:29] <cgi101> im trying to
[13:30] <cgi101> wind764bit/ubunto12.04 32bit
[13:31] <zakzakzak> hi all
[13:31] <cgi101> sude i try the 64 one then
[13:31] <zakzakzak> :)
[13:34] <JasonGriffee> How do I fource 1080p output on VGA? (12.04)
[13:35] <beanaroo> as
[13:36] <donnyqiu> cgi101: http://www.linuxine.com/story/after-upgrade-1204-hanging-login-screen is this your problem exactly?
[13:37] <loxic> jjjj
[13:38] <cgi101> donnyqiu: no 1st i dint update 2nd i cant even type my pasword 3rd the leoding screen is glitched with green pixels
[13:38] <loxic> 好哈德森
[13:38] <MonkeyDust> !cn
[13:39] <Sk> hi guys, i'm trying to install ubuntu 10.10 on pc but it tells me there is not enough space, and it has whole 160gb free
[13:40] <quixotedon> cgi101: since you can't do anything with the shell or whatsoever way to debug, why not try reinstalling if you don't mind and see if the same thing happened, and if your pc supports 11 version than actually it would work normally without the green thingie
[13:41] <cgi101> oke il reinstal
[13:41] <MonkeyDust> 10.10| Sk
[13:41] <MonkeyDust> !10.10| Sk
[13:41] <Hyperbyte> What's the recommended way to install a new locale in Ubuntu 12.04?
[13:41] <ugi> ubuntu 10.10 is  no longer supported w/ undates. wants to load newer version
[13:41] <MonkeyDust> !locale| Hyperbyte
[13:42] <wwd> Hi folks, I am having a problem with my mdadm array after upgrading from 10.04 to 12.04. Basically its gone, mdadm --examine --scan shows /dev/md0 but gives a uuid of all zeros. Am i fucked? Anyone have any suggestions on what to try?
[13:42] <Sk> MonkeyDyst: ye i know what version it is, i want to install it but it wont let me
[13:42] <drPoO> hi all, I am having difficulties installing sun java6 jre on 10.04 LTS. Could anybody point me to a working tutorial?
[13:42] <akjain> hello i have installed windows7 and the grub problem occured as always happened with dual boot
[13:42] <MonkeyDust> Sk  that's because it is no longer valid
[13:43] <Sk> MonkeyDust: so if its old version i cant even install it?
[13:43] <MonkeyDust> Sk  as you can see
[13:43] <Hyperbyte> MonkeyDust, right, I was looking at that - according to apt-get, there's no package localeconf in 12.04
[13:44] <beanaroo> akjain: did you install win7 after installing ubuntu?
[13:44] <akjain> akjain: yes
[13:44] <donnyqiu> cgi101: your 11.10 works fine with you?
[13:44] <cosmic__> help for c-media 6501 now fix to 5.1 sound ?
[13:45] <cosmic__> help for c-media 6501 now fix to 5.1 sound ?
[13:45] <MonkeyDust> cosmic__  please be patient
[13:46] <DylanJV> #megaglest-lobby
[13:48] <Hyperbyte> How do I install a new locale in Precise?  "apt-get install localeconf" says there is no such package localconf
[13:49] <jpds> Hyperbyte: Use the Language Support part of System Settings to install a new language?
[13:49] <wwd> Hi folks, I am having a problem with my mdadm array after upgrading from 10.04 to 12.04. Basically its gone, mdadm --examine --scan shows /dev/md0 but gives a uuid of all zeros. Am i fucked? Anyone have any suggestions on what to try?
[13:50] <Hyperbyte> jpds, languages I want there are greyed-out
[13:50] <Hyperbyte> There's an 'Add language' button, but also greyed-out
[13:51] <jpds> Hyperbyte: Drag the language above English?
[13:51] <vlt> wwd: _I_ would run a live CD (a very good one for such task is grml.org) and examine the disks first.
[13:51] <vlt> wwd: Is your system booting from md raid now?
[13:52] <Hyperbyte> jpds, the application crashes
[13:52] <wwd> no, the array is not the boot
[13:52] <jpds> Hyperbyte: Nice, I would file a bug in that case.
[13:52] <Hyperbyte> But a lot of applications are crashing, because of locale problems
[13:52] <vlt> wwd: Then you don’t need a separate live CD I think.
[13:52] <wwd> yea..
[13:52] <wwd> i am able to boot into 12.04, and examine the disks
[13:52] <vlt> wwd: What does `mdadm -D` tell you?
[13:53] <wwd> frisk can see each of the disks
[13:54] <cosmic__> help for c-media 6501 now fix to 5.1 sound ?
[13:55] <wwd> mdadm: cannot open /dev/md0: No such file or directory
[13:55] <FoolsRun> Hi, everyone, I have a weird bootup problem: Since upgrading to 12.04, when I boot my machine I get stuck at the logo screen. All the dots light up and it just stops --I can't SSH to the box either. If I power off the machine at that screen and power it on again, I get the GRUB menu and am able to boot fine! The boot screen looks different (text instead of graphics) and it loads normally. How
[13:55] <FoolsRun> can I fix this so it boots successfully every time?
[13:55] <wwd> root@bb:~# mdadm --examine --scan
[13:55] <wwd> ARRAY /dev/md0 UUID=00000000:00000000:00000000:00000000
[13:55] <wwd>    spares=20
[13:55] <wwd> ARRAY /dev/md0 UUID=00000000:00000000:00000000:00000000
[13:55] <wwd>    spares=1
[13:55] <FloodBot1> wwd: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:56] <wwd> mdadm --examine --scan gives http://paste.ubuntu.com/992391/
[13:58] <ptolemaiosz> !hu
[13:58] <vlt> wwd: If you can see the disks, what does `mdadm -E /dev/sdXY` look like?
[13:58] <wwd> mdadm -vvv --assemble /dev/md0 /dev/sd[b-v]1 gives the following output" mdadm: looking for devices for /dev/md0
[13:58] <etyrnal> if i have lubuntu installed on a machine, and i tell it to do a distribution upgrade, will it keep me on lubuntu, or will it turn my installation into Ubuntu??
[13:59] <vlt> wwd: Can you paste the output of `fdisk -l` and `blkid`, please?
[13:59] <wwd> vat yes one sec
[13:59] <wwd> vlt *
[14:00] <sebastiano> cera
[14:00] <sebastiano> sera
[14:01] <vlt> !it | sebastiano Ciao!
[14:01] <wwd> fdisk -l : http://paste.ubuntu.com/992397/
[14:01] <forage> What is the recommended way to get 32 bit libs in ubuntu 12.04 64 bit in order to run 32 bit apps? ai32libs is a transitional package now
[14:01] <FoolsRun> Has anyone seen an issue where booting normally doesn't work (stuck at logo screen) but choosing the first option in GRUB after rebooting works fine?
[14:02] <wwd> vlt: blkid http://paste.ubuntu.com/992398/
[14:02] <Marzata> with 4 GB is it recommended to run 64 bit?
[14:02] <lodecha51> sup
[14:02] <ceed^> Hi, is there a way to remove the mail/messaging applet icon in the notification area?
[14:02] <vlt> wwd: `cat /proc/mdstat`
[14:03] <lodecha51> 4 gb its the lower 4 64 bits
[14:03] <wwd> Personalities : [linear] [multipath] [raid0] [raid1] [raid6] [raid5] [raid4] [raid10]
[14:03] <wwd> unused devices: <none>
[14:04] <cr1sco> ceed^ right click "remove from panel"
[14:05] <martian> How can I check what version of mod_autoindex is shipped with ubuntu's apache package?
[14:05] <wwd> vlt:  mdadm.conf : showing the uuid of the old working array : http://paste.ubuntu.com/992401/
[14:05] <ceed^> cr1sco: I do not see a remove from panel option but only available etc and Thunderbird
[14:06] <subdesign> hey
[14:06] <subdesign> when I safely remove an usb drive, how to know i can plug out ? or when?
[14:06] <cr1sco> unmount
[14:06] <cr1sco> hold up ceed^
[14:07] <vlt> wwd: And `mdadm -E /dev/sd[b-v]1`?
[14:07] <wwd> vlt:  one sec
[14:07] <vlt> wwd: (I’m trying to figure out what goes on there …)
[14:07] <Neonlajt> Anyone received this error in Ubuntu after upgrading to 12.04 ? "Use of qw(...) as parentheses is deprecated"  I believe its related to perl, can you downgrade perl in 12.04 ?
[14:07] <Neonlajt> or even revert to 10.04 from 12.04?
[14:08] <kubanc> i have installed openssh-server package. I've enabled remote desktop connection. How can i connect to computer via ssh? Or, which command do i put into terminal to connect?
[14:08] <wwd> vlt:  mdadm -E /dev/sd[b-v]1    http://paste.ubuntu.com/992409/
[14:09] <cr1sco> ceed^ if you use the mail client you can hide the icon by right clicking the panel and selecting "properties"
[14:09] <wwd> vlt: notice version: - 0.90
[14:10] <wwd> in my mdadm .conf it is metadata=00.90
[14:10] <wwd> dmesg gives me this for all the devices: md: sdm1 does not have a valid v0.90 superblock, not importing!
[14:10] <wwd> [   84.209828] md: md_import_device returned -22
[14:10] <FoolsRun> Nobody has any thoughts for an upgraded machine that doesn't boot successfully the first try (stops at logo screen), but does work the second try if you choose the top (default?) GRUB entry?
[14:11] <wwd> so I'm thinking this has something to do with my problem, just don't know how to alleviate
[14:12] <ceed^> cr1sco: I'm not using Thunderbird nor the IM client, so I would like to remove the envelope icon entirely. Guess I can't do that?
[14:13] <koro> re
[14:13] <cr1sco> ceed^ that's how i roll i've got the whole mail client uninstalled, i think it's empathy
[14:14] <ceed^> cr1sco: I'll try to remove that and see what happens.
[14:14] <vlt> wwd: _Now_ I’d grab a live CD. Another way would be to rename /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf (and maybe reboot) to see how it handles the disks w/o any instructions …
[14:16] <wwd> vlt: i have tried commenting out the previous array definition
[14:16] <wwd> but will try renaming .conf and see what happens...
[14:19] <LucidGuy> Regarding Ubuntu Server LTS.  Whats the difference between standard support, and Extended?  Does extended mean that only security packages will remain available via repos?
[14:20] <cgi101> http://i.imgur.com/eThK8.jpg
[14:20] <cgi101> this was frozen
[14:20] <raven> ffmpeg: how to add new audio streams to a file? what is the new option istead of -newaudio?
[14:25] <DJones> LucidGuy: This possibly exlains it http://www.canonical.com/content/ubuntu-1204-feature-extended-support-period-desktop-users seems like the 1st 2 years will have updates for hardware , while the last  3 years just have maintenance updates
[14:26] <raven> ffmpeg: how to add new audio streams to a file? what is the new option istead of -newaudio?
[14:26] <obscurant1st> Is there any possible way to put something on the clipbord? I have coded a script to take screenshot and upload it into the imgur.com service then return the uploaded url. But I need to put that url into the clipboard, for that I just need the linux command! :/
[14:28] <wwd> obscurant1st:  xclip
[14:29] <obscurant1st> wwwd, I tried that without success. I mean I have a variable with the url, and I don't know any wayof of passing that into xclip. Can you show me How to put "foo" onto clipboard using xclip?
[14:29] <wwd> pipe it
[14:31] <obscurant1st> wwd: Yep I tried that, somehwo tis not working in python, may be I need some other solution.
[14:31] <etyrnal> if i have lubuntu installed on a machine, and i tell it to do a distribution upgrade, will it keep me on lubuntu, or will it turn my installation into Ubuntu??
[14:32] <raven> ffmpeg: how to add new audio streams to a file? what is the new option istead of -newaudio?
[14:32] <wwd> can you get xclip to work in bash?
[14:32] <MonkeyDust> etyrnal  still lubuntu
[14:33] <DJones> etyrnal: It should keep you on lubuntu, the upgrade goes from one version to the next, not from lubuntu to ubuntu or kubuntu
[14:33] <etyrnal> Thanks MonkeyDust
[14:33] <etyrnal> DJones, thanks.  the would 'should' ALWAYS makes ne vwervous =)
[14:33] <etyrnal> nervous^
[14:33] <obscurant1st> echo yahoo | xclip -selection c
[14:34] <obscurant1st> ^^ wwd it works
[14:34] <wwd> hmm, well I'm not python handy so i don't really know tbh
[14:34] <DJones> etyrnal: As alway, make sure you backup anything important before upgrading
[14:35] <wwd> i presume you can drop to the shell somehow like in perl and do it that way
[14:35] <Mrokii> Hello. I noticed that after Updating to Ubuntu 12.04 Gnome-Shell/the Gnome 3 environment, whatever the official name is, doesn't start up, even though I chose it in LightDM. What happens is that I am put onto the my regular desktop (Gnome classic, no unity), but it's missing the top panel on the desktop completely.
[14:35] <etyrnal> i've never done a distribution upgrade before.  aside from unexpected catastrophes, can one expect that at least their home filder will survive?  What does, and what does not normally survive a disto upgrade?
[14:35] <mauricio_> I have an error everytime i install anything with apt-get... "errors found while processing: winbind" Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) please help me
[14:36] <obscurant1st> wwd: Yeah I will try, thanks man! :)
[14:37] <BLeg> I've dual booted Ubuntu and Windows 7. When I boot my system, I don't see a boot loader, but instead the system just loads into Windows... why do I not see GRUB?
[14:38] <wwd> tap the left shit key on boot up, should bring up grub
[14:38] <wwd> err shift
[14:38] <DJones> etyrnal: I've never had an issue with my home folder, I've got that on a seperate partition so if something did go wrong, I could always recover that anyway, I can't remember having an issue upgrading apart from when playing with the alpha/beta versions
[14:39] <cgi101> iv ben reinstaling for so many times now
[14:39] <bounty> hi all
[14:39] <FoolsRun> Hey, are the default GRUB selection (whatever the system boots automatically) and the "top" GRUB menu option (the menu that appears if the initial boot doesn't work) different?
[14:40] <cgi101> now wen it finisghet its thing it states in a window "no root file system"  i still cant press any buttons
[14:41] <tyteen4a03> hi, is there a chinese ubuntu channel around?
[14:41] <DJones> !cn
[14:41] <DJones> tyteen4a03: See the link above
[14:41] <raven> ffmpeg: how to add new audio streams to a file? what is the new option istead of -newaudio?
[14:42] <tyteen4a03> DJones: oh, so it's a hyphen instead of a dot (stupid me :P)
[14:42] <tyteen4a03> thanks
[14:42] <pawdro> hi, is there any simple way to do images like i.e. concept screens of unity or new ‘Update Manager’ in 12.10? was is done in GIMP, written on tablet or sth? http://cloudfront.omgubuntu.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/updates-initial.jpeg
[14:42] <DJones> tyteen4a03: Your welcome
[14:42] <cgi101> i dont know what to do anymore
[14:42] <ringzer0> I just got ubuntu and it seems to be working great.  I am trying to get gnome3 + gnome-shell -- I can't seem to get it working right.  I can login (using Gnome de) - and then terminal and type: gnome-shell --replace & -- and it works  (afterward i have difficulty shutting it down, i usually have to go to a different tty and kill it).
[14:42] <pawdro> i have project presentation next week and I like concept style from Ubuntu :)
[14:43] <ringzer0> Can someone help me get my dream OS going? :D
[14:43] <bounty> i have some problems about nvidia card geforce4 mx and ubuntu 12.04
[14:43] <martian> ringzer0: slightly more specific questions would be better :-P
[14:43]  * ringzer0 is running latest ubuntu via VirtualBox
[14:43] <raven> ffmpeg: how to add new audio streams to a file? what is the new option istead of -newaudio?
[14:43] <ringzer0> martian: gnome-shell does not startup
[14:44] <martian> raven: what program are you using?
[14:44] <ringzer0> martian: I have to log into 'gnome' and type what I mentioned above.
[14:44] <raven> martian ffmpeg with 12.04
[14:44] <ringzer0> martian: gnome-shell --replace &  to get desired look/feel -- it starts out like it hit failsafe, and bumps back to what looks like unity2d
[14:45] <LucidGuy> Anyone here like Unity?
[14:45] <martian> ringzer0: what happens when you attempt to set gnome shell as your session?
[14:45] <sunitasethi> hello
[14:47] <raven> martian?
[14:47] <martian> raven: -map
[14:47] <raven> martian which way?
[14:47] <ringzer0> martian: "Gnome shell" isn't an option - but it isn't on my laptop that works perfect either.  I just get Gnome, Gnome Classic, Gnome Classic (no effects), Recovery Console, Ubuntu, Ubuntu2d
[14:48] <ringzer0> martian: on my laptop I just select 'gnome' and gnome3 with gnome shell wrapper loads just fine.
[14:48] <martian> raven: I don't know. You should read the manual for that option.
[14:48] <ringzer0> martian: my desktop (with virtualbox and 3d acceleration enabled) is kicking it back to a different shell or something.  but i can get it back by typing gnome-shell --replace
[14:49] <raven> martian ok tnx for the hint
[14:49] <obscurant1st> wwd: worked mate! :D
[14:49] <obscurant1st> I used os.system command
[14:49] <wwd> obscurant1st: jiggy
[14:49] <obscurant1st> Btw do you happen to know a way of running a script when a short key is pressed?
[14:52] <ringzer0> martian: I did 'user defined' and it just worked.  lol, thanks.
[14:52] <wwd> obscurant1st: maybe xmodmap?
[14:52] <martian> ringzer0: oh, so it's in virtualbox? You're getting dropped down to whatever they call the failsafe mode. I've never had good luck with hardware acceleration in vbox.
[14:52] <elspru_> it seems like my international fonts aren't working :-( on 12.04
[14:53] <obscurant1st> wwd: I don't know what it is, I will check it out. Thanks!
[14:53] <ringzer0> martian: i got it i think
[14:53] <amikrop> Hello, how can I browse through my all apps?
[14:53] <amikrop> Through dash
[14:54] <ringzer0> How do I check to see if hardware accel is on?
[14:57] <Mrokii> Hello. Seems something about my Gnome-Shell installation is broken. This happens: When I start into "Gnome" on Ubuntu 12.04 it begins to star the Gnome-shell and then, after maybe 10 to 20 seconds, the desktop changes back to my "regular" desktop (Unutiy/Gnome Classic backdrop, but no Unity sidebar and no top screen bar). What could cause that?
[14:58] <amikrop> Hello, how can I browse though all of my installed applications?
[14:58] <robertoubuntu> ma cosa si fa da questo canale?
[14:58] <lelamal> amikrop: use the dash
[14:58] <DJones> !it | robertoubuntu
[14:59] <amikrop> lelamal: It doesn't show all the apps, just some recent used ones, or the ones I search for
[15:00] <y0om4> hi
[15:00] <y0om4> the encrypted filesystem is only for .Private? other files in the home directory are not encrypted?
[15:01] <imMute> I'm having trouble installing 12.04 server on a machine.  It shows the GRUB prompt, but when I hit enter to install, it goes black and reboots.  Tried two different CDs as well as a USB stick and even the x86 version, no dice.  memtest86+ reports no errors.  Anyone know what I should check next?
[15:01] <amikrop> How can I set it so I don't get asked for my user's password (to login) each time I go idle?
[15:01] <ringzer0> Mrokii: i had that exact same issue (running in virtualbox) --- My fix: Run from terninal window: gnome-shell --replace &  (not as sudo) -- then log out of gnome shell, when logging back in, select 'user defined'
[15:01] <ringzer0> amikrop: setting i assume
[15:01] <amikrop> In other words, I don't want to logout if I leave the computer for some time.
[15:01] <theadmin> amikrop: Screensaver settings (disable screensaver) OR power management settings (lock screen when idle)
[15:02] <theadmin> amikrop: Probably even both
[15:02] <amikrop> theadmin: Where are these settings in 12.04 ?
[15:02] <elspru_> Hey does anyone here have international fonts working in 12.04 ?
[15:02] <y0om4> for encrypteed file system , is the encrypted directory only /home/.Private or is it the whole /home directory?
[15:03] <theadmin> amikrop: Not all entirely sure, I think they're in the control center thingy
[15:03] <israel> today is Internet's day
[15:04] <amikrop> theadmin: control center? what is that? if you mean system settings, only "Power" is there and has only two unrelated options
[15:04] <theadmin> amikrop: Yesh, I meant that... Uhh... Okay then, what about the screensaver settings?
[15:04] <amikrop> theadmin: there isn't a "Screensaver" entry in there
[15:04] <amikrop> theadmin: or anywhere I could find
[15:05] <theadmin> amikrop: Try hitting Super and typing "Screensaver" in your system language in
[15:05] <designbybeck> How do you boot a USBliveBoot Ubuntu on a Mac Laptop? ... Is all you have to do is hold down "c" on bootup?
[15:05] <caesar_> is there a 'device manager' equivalent for linux?
[15:05] <amikrop> theadmin: no related results
[15:05] <quixotedon> caesar_: in terms of what device?
[15:06] <caesar_> i'm trying to install my internal microphone
[15:06] <wwd> yea, udev
[15:06] <bounty> i have some problems about nvidia card geforce4 mx and ubuntu 12.04 , i upgrade from 11.10 bu now video go slowly ,
[15:06] <pungi-man> can we make the core of our application in python and graphics in java??
[15:06] <wwd> caesar_:  lshw, lspci, udevadm
[15:07] <iceroot> pungi-man: #python, #java
[15:07] <caesar_> wwd: do i need to install those from synaptics?
[15:07] <Progster> I'm trying to run tomcat on my ubuntu server as the unprivileged user tomcat. The online guides are confusing me. Can anyone give me some background info on how I'd do this? when I try to run su -c "tomcat/startup.sh" tomcat, I don't see any errors on the console but tomcat doesn't start up
[15:07] <wwd> nope, already on your system
[15:07] <wwd> cli utilities
[15:07] <caesar_> sec
[15:08] <theadmin> caesar_: If you're looking for a GUI hardware lister tool, run: gksudo "lshw -X"
[15:08] <mauricio_> im getting this error
[15:08] <mauricio_> * Has entrado en #Ubuntu-es
[15:08] <mauricio_> * El topic para #Ubuntu-es es Canal oficial de soporte de Ubuntu en español - Canal social: /join #ubuntu-es-cafe - ¿Pegar Texto? http://paste.ubuntu.com - Descargar Ubuntu 12.04 LTS: http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/ - Versiones soportadas: 8.04 LTS (servidor), 10.04 LTS, 11.04, 11.10 y 12.04 LTS
[15:08] <mauricio_> * Topic para #Ubuntu-es definido por m4v!~znc@unaffiliated/m4v en Sat May  5 22:05:20 2012
[15:08] <mauricio_> -ChanServ- [#ubuntu-es] Bienvenidos al canal oficial de soporte Ubuntu en español  - Por favor respete el CoC https://wiki.ubuntu.com/esCodeOfConduct - Este canal se archiva públicamente en http://irclogs.ubuntu.com - Usar este canal implica la aceptación de los términos en https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/TermsOfService/es
[15:08] <FloodBot1> mauricio_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:09] <lelamal> bounty: try installing additional drivers from jockey for your card
[15:09] <bounty> how ^
[15:09] <lelamal> type additional in the dash
[15:09] <mauricio_> ok
[15:09] <lelamal> in your language
[15:10] <lelamal> bounty: or "driver"
[15:10] <theadmin> bounty: gksudo jockey-gtk
[15:11] <pungi-man> iceroot:#java is invite only. Can u tell me some other way??
[15:12] <neokya> Why does Ubuntu removes skype while uninstalling Nodejs?
[15:12] <ikonia> pungi-man: ##java , not #java
[15:12] <bounty1> tell me that is activated but not in use
[15:12] <mauricio_> Im getting this error every time I install anything, here is the pastebin when installing libglu1-mesa-dev
[15:12] <mauricio_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/992506/
[15:12] <kindjal> Is it possible to disable nfs4 in ubuntu 12 on the client side?
[15:12] <ikonia> kindjal: sure, just don't start the service
[15:12] <pungi-man> ikonia, its telling that * ##java :Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services
[15:12] <kindjal> ikonia: i want nfs3
[15:13] <rana> hi
[15:13] <auronandace> !register | pungi-man
[15:13] <theadmin> pungi-man: Register, then (/msg nickserv register PASSWORD E-MAIL)
[15:13] <ikonia> pungi-man: then create a freenode account and identify
[15:14] <lelamal> bounty: I don't get it. Can you paste a screenshot?
[15:14] <pungi-man> thanks u all....I was successful in my task!!
[15:15] <rana> any one know aircrack-ng  install on ubuntu 12.4
[15:15] <DJones> !info aircrack-ng
[15:16] <lelamal> !aircrack
[15:16] <quixotedon> rana: it doesn't exist
[15:17] <cgi101> oke i record the problem
[15:17] <cgi101> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKgCtZo1m7I&feature=youtu.be
[15:17] <lorddelta> Hi. I don't have a question. I'd just like to mention that emacs -nw works again in ubuntu! Yay! Thanks guys.
[15:17] <lorddelta> (I don't know if this is the proper channel to give thanks)
[15:18] <Mrokii> RingZer01: Thanks, that seemed to work (kind of). My desktop still shows my regular backdrop-image but at least the shell is loaded.
[15:18] <ringzer0> On my 'User Defined' gnome3+gnome-shell when I click on 'Online Accounts' so I can setup syncing.  Nothing.  At all, no error, no notice at the bottom, notta
[15:18] <ringzer0> do i need to install a package for 'online accounts' to work?
[15:19] <roothorick> I've been having this issue for a while now. Every here and there, the screen straight-up stops updating
[15:20] <roothorick> it's like compiz just straight-up hangs for no reason
[15:20] <roothorick> input is still working like normal, as I see the effects of my mouse movements after I -KILL compiz (a simple TERM doesn't work)
[15:20] <roothorick> should I file a bug, or do you think it might be hardware?
[15:21] <usuario__> ola
[15:21] <usuario__> olaaa
[15:21] <lelamal> !sp | usuario__
[15:22] <theadmin> roothorick: It does sound like a bug to me
[15:22] <lelamal> !es | usuario__
[15:22] <HackerII> uıɐƃɐ ʎɐldsıp ʎɯ ǝʞoɹq ʇsnɾ ı
[15:22] <usuario__> hola
[15:22] <HackerII> hola
[15:22] <caesar_> wwd: do i need to download drivers or simply activate it?
[15:23] <gabe_> hello guys... anyone able to help me with setting up an FTP server? I issued: sudo apt-get install vsftpd and then I configured the /etc/vsftpd.conf file to allow anonymous users only with upload and write privileges
[15:23] <neokya> Hello Everyone, How can I find which version of particular software is there on Ubuntu remote package?
[15:23] <neokya> How to add new version?
[15:23] <Osakasa> hi, is there a way to change copy-paste in terminal to ctrl+c/v instead of right click + copy/paste?
[15:23] <gabe_> when issue ftp localhost it works fine, but I cannot access the FTP server from another computer for some reason
[15:23] <raphaelle> hello @ll, is that natural that during 11.10 to 12.04 upgrade nothing appears on screen ? (on a LUbuntu system)
[15:23] <gabe_> any idea why?
[15:23] <bounty1> lelamal imagebin.org/212716
[15:24] <gabe_> I can ping the IP address of the server but not access FTP
[15:24] <metaljake> anyone else having problems installing 12.04?
[15:24] <usuario__> no entiendo nada
[15:24] <usuario__> no hablo ingles
[15:24] <ring0> !es | usuario__
[15:25] <wwd> caesar_:  these are commands  you issue in terminal to examine various aspects of hardware
[15:25] <usuario__> ya se que solo se abla ingles
[15:25] <Mrokii> Osakasa: You can change all shortcuts via the menu "Edit/Keyboard Shortcuts...". But keep in mind when you change copy to "Ctrl+C", you won't be able to use that key-combination anymore for stopping apps.
[15:25] <bounty1> http://imagebin.org/212716
[15:25] <Osakasa> Mrokii, good point :)
[15:26] <ringzer0> just change escape char?
[15:26] <usuario__> hello
[15:26] <caesar_> wwd: i saw that.. opened up all sort of info for pci and usb and whatnot
[15:26] <lelamal> bounty1: I don't know why it's not using it, although it's activated. You may find more support on #ubuntu-it, try to ask jester- or enzotib
[15:26] <theadmin> bounty1: That looks like installed. Also, what's that icon theme?
[15:27] <caesar_> i'll just continue to prowl through google because its seems like something so simple
[15:27] <lelamal> theadmin: it says it's activated but not in use
[15:27] <usuario__> do you like?
[15:27] <theadmin> lelamal: Oh, did you "sudo nvidia-xconfig"?
[15:27] <imMute> and apparently the 12.04 *desktop* image boots just fine.  must be soemthing with the server edition...
[15:27] <theadmin> lelamal: If no, you should, methinks
[15:28] <gabe_> anyone able to help with FTP server please?
[15:28] <lelamal> I don't know, but I suggested him to use the Italian channel, if he doesn't find support here
[15:28] <usuario__> vuestra puta madre
[15:28] <lelamal> theadmin: ^
[15:28] <israel> !ask | gabe_
[15:29] <theadmin> lelamal: Oh oops, sorry, wrong person :P
[15:29] <Orpheon> hey
[15:29] <lelamal> theadmin: np
[15:29] <Orpheon> I need some help with wine and opengl
[15:29] <theadmin> bounty1: Try "sudo nvidia-xconfig" followed by restarting X (or if you don't know what that means, rebooting)
[15:29] <Orpheon> these last two years, both have worked fine
[15:29] <theadmin> Orpheon: #winehq is the place for wine stuff
[15:29] <Orpheon> I'm not sure whether this is a pure wine bug
[15:29] <Orpheon> but ok
[15:29] <Orpheon> thanks
[15:30] <gabe_> israel: I already asked :)
[15:30] <gabe_> ubuttu: sorry
[15:31] <SIlversong> Harro
[15:31] <CousinLarry> hi, i want to add some keyboards shortcuts to commonly used apps, how can i do that ?
[15:31] <CousinLarry> 12.04
[15:32] <SIlversong> I think within "Keyboard"
[15:32] <SIlversong> Super -> search KEYBOARD
[15:32] <theadmin> CousinLarry: There is a "Keyboard Shortcuts" app either within system settings or elsewhere, just search for that in the dash
[15:32] <SIlversong> Shortcuts
[15:32] <RJlocal123> cool
[15:33] <Orpheon> #winehq isn't responding :(
[15:33] <CousinLarry> ok thanks
[15:33] <boobear> hello all i installed gnome 3.4 but i still have gnome 3 anyone know the solution to this ????>>>>>>
[15:35] <theadmin> boobear: That doesn't even make sesne... 3.4 is gnome3 anyway
[15:35] <appsvj> hi
[15:35] <cgi101> hello, im still having the instal problem
[15:35] <cgi101> what do i have to do
[15:36] <boobear> i dont really understand the topic of the site said gnome 3.4
[15:36] <cgi101> this is what happend http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKgCtZo1m7I&feature=youtu.be
[15:37] <auronandace> boobear: which ubuntu release are you using? how did you install gnome3?
[15:37] <kubanc> Hellow! i have a question about joomla and ubuntu server? what rights should i put for files and folders that I copy from local host to server?
[15:38] <boobear> i used the update from 11.10 to 12.04 and i had gnome already on 11.10
[15:38] <quixotedon> cgi101: loading the video
[15:38] <auronandace> boobear: so why did you try to install gnome3?
[15:38] <m0smith> hi,
[15:38] <usuario__> hello welcome a #going11 . welcome spanis
[15:39] <MonkeyDust> boobear  what do you want, if not gnome3 ?
[15:39] <m0smith> I have a question related to viewing streaming media
[15:39] <cgi101> quixotedon: can u see it
[15:39] <quixotedon> still watching..
[15:39] <quixotedon> :)
[15:39] <LjL> usuario__: excuse me? the spanish channel for Ubuntu is #ubuntu-es, and this is the English channel for Ubuntu.
[15:40] <boobear> i just dont understand anytime i start up it says system problem detected
[15:40] <MonkeyDust> boobear  any error messages?
[15:40] <ringzer0> do i need to install a package for 'online accounts' to work?
[15:40] <ringzer0> On my 'User Defined' gnome3+gnome-shell when I click on 'Online Accounts' so I can setup syncing.  Nothing.  At all, no error, no notice at the bottom, notta
[15:41] <usuario__> solo spain #going11
[15:41] <caesar_> well that didnt work
[15:41] <ringzer0> if i had a binary for 'online accounts' i would launch via the shell to get some verbosity -- i have removed and reinstalled gnome-online-accounts backage.
[15:41] <DJones> usuario__: Please don't spam/advertise your own channel, this channel is for Ubuntu support only
[15:41] <quixotedon> cgi101: so the progress is not loading up??
[15:41] <boobear> yes it but the report something never works i dunno
[15:41] <cgi101> idk what it is
[15:41] <ringzer0> isn't there something you can type to see where all the files are for a given package
[15:42] <cgi101> it just freazes
[15:42] <ringzer0> like pkginfo gnome-online-accounts ?
[15:42] <MonkeyDust> boobear  we need to know *something* or we cannot help
[15:42] <theadmin> ringzer0: There sure is, "dpkg -L packagename" (I suggest appending " | grep bin/" to that so you only see the binary stuff)
[15:42] <Mrokii> ringzer0: I think Synaptic shows you where all the files are for installed packages.
[15:43] <kubanc> how do i change permission only fot files and not folders?
[15:43] <boobear> dang the system has no lags or anything works perfectly normal except at startup when it says system problem detected thanks for your help guys
[15:44] <cgi101> what do i do quixotedon? reinstal again?
[15:44] <Orpheon> how do I get the multilib nvidia driver?
[15:44] <elspru_> so is anyone else having difficulty with international fonts on ubuntu 12.04 ?
[15:44] <auronandace> boobear: i guess you need to fix your problem then (notice how specific my advice is?)
[15:45] <theadmin> kubanc: If you mean recursively, something along these lines: find your_directory -type f -exec chmod 644 '{}' \; # Replace 644 with your permissions, obviously
[15:46] <ringzer0> Mrokii: thx
[15:46] <Mrokii> ringzer0: yw
[15:47] <m0smith> Since I upgraded to 12.04, I cannot get any software to stream from an dnla/upnp server.  Any ideas?
[15:47] <kubanc> theadmin, -type f is for files -type d is for directories?
[15:47] <theadmin> kubanc: Yeah
[15:47] <caesar_> lol.. the mic was on mute by default
[15:47] <tyler_d> theadmin: wouldn't --->  ls -1 | xargs chmod 655 be simpler?
[15:47] <Orpheon> how do I get the multilib nvidia driver? (sorry for repeat)
[15:47] <quixotedon> cgi101: you don't have to, you've had a hard time reinstalling for 13 times, try putting it on the ask.ubuntu.com as well as the video link and wait for others to see it. Otherwise if you have 11 version works fine, try install that and if you want to use 12.04 try using the upgrade choice instead of fresh install
[15:47] <theadmin> tyler_d: That's not recursive, but yeah, that works too
[15:48] <Mrokii> ringzer0: Though there may still be some config files somewhere in your home folder. Not sure.
[15:48] <tyler_d> theadmin: wouldn't --->  ls -1 | xargs chmod -R 655 be simpler?
[15:48] <tyler_d> theadmin: ahh no you're right
[15:48] <theadmin> tyler_d: Well, the problem is, you need to chmod files and not directories, excluding directories from ls... well...
[15:48] <somethinginteres> I appear to be missing Digest::SHA1 perl module  but libdigest-sha-perl is installed. Any ideas?
[15:48] <cgi101> quixotedon oke il first try that 11 thing, got a link?
[15:49] <quixotedon> cgi101: have you ever installed Ubuntu's earlier version that works fine on your pc?
[15:49] <siva4080> I'm using Ubuntu-12.04 LTS , I want to have special animation effects when moving from window to window. How can I setup them.  Pls suggest me
[15:49] <cgi101> quixotedon no its my first try
[15:50] <quixotedon> i see..
[15:50] <quixotedon> your pc spec please, if you can provide, that will give more idea on the possible problem
[15:50] <Dr_willis> !ccsm | siva4080
[15:51] <kubanc> theadmin, if I put:  find /var/www/beachcamp/ -type f -exec 644 '{}' \; I get find: '644 : No such file or directory
[15:51] <theadmin> kubanc: ...You missed the "chmod" part
[15:52] <cgi101> quixotedon where do i get an older version
[15:52] <theadmin> kubanc: ...-exec chmod 644...
[15:52] <DeadLock74633896> Hey
[15:52] <kubanc> theadmin, THNX
[15:53] <DeadLock74633896> I've never been here before, but I made a massive Ubuntu screw up
[15:53] <DeadLock74633896> Help please?
[15:53] <Dr_willis> state the problem...
[15:53] <tyler_d> !question | DeadLock74633896
[15:54] <DeadLock74633896> Thanks for that. I accidentally deleted Python 2.7, and now my system is totally vegetated. It's 11.10, and I still have the Live CD
[15:54] <quixotedon> cgi101: have you tried http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/try-ubuntu-before-you-install ??
[15:55] <meadhikari> Sorry if it is a noob questiong but, I have downloaded docs.python.org, whole site, How can I make something like when I visit the page from my browser I get redirected to the local copy in my hard disk, thanks for your time
[15:55] <DeadLock74633896> *I can run off it, but it can't install bevcause it's slightly damaged
[15:55] <alo21_> hi all
[15:55] <meadhikari> hello alo21_
[15:56] <Mrokii> DeadLock74633896: Did you try to reinstall Python2.7 via Synaptic?
[15:56] <alo21_> my network, after a new installation of Ubuntu 12.04, is very very salow
[15:56] <alo21_> meadhikari: hi
[15:56] <theadmin> alo21_: Try disabling IPv6, it helps sometimes
[15:57] <DeadLock74633896> Mrokii: I can't connect to the internet. It's mobile broadband, I had to install a Debian package to get it to work. Can I access the usb-modeswitch from the CD?
[15:57] <alo21_> theadmin: could you tell me how, please?
[15:58] <ForSpareParts> Does anyone know of a way to get a keyboard-focused (sort of Unity-like) start menu in Gnome Classic?
[15:58] <theadmin> alo21_: In NetworkManager, edit connections, choose your connection and click edit. On the IPv6 tab, choose... Uh... "ignore" or "disable" or something along the lines (haven't used networkmanager for ages). OR, append "ipv6.disable=1" to your kernel line to get rid of the IPv6 systemwide
[15:58] <ForSpareParts> For the most part I like Gnome Classic a LOT better, but having to click and search through the menu hierarchy frustrates me...
[15:59] <theadmin> ForSpareParts: Try dmenu, gnome-do or launchy
[15:59] <ForSpareParts> theadmin: thanks! I will do that.
[15:59] <metaljake> anyone else having trouble installing 12.04?
[15:59] <quixotedon> cgi101: for 11.10 http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.10/
[15:59] <Dr_willis> Theres some classic-menu indicator applets out also  that can be used with unity or gnome-shell.
[15:59] <ForSpareParts> Dr_willis: Sorry, but, what do you mean by indicator applets?
[16:00] <kkal> hello. Im trying to enable/disable some plugins in compiz and it doesnt seem to do anything. Is there a known cause for this?
[16:00] <DanielConvissor> hi.  using precise/12.04.  calling "cryptsetup create cryptswap1 /dev/xvdb" fails, saying "device-mapper: reload ioctl failed: No such file or directory" and "device-mapper: table ioctl failed: No such device or address"
[16:00] <DanielConvissor> yes, "/dev/xvdb" exists
[16:00] <Dr_willis> ForSpareParts,  notice the icons at the top right of the unity desktop? thats the indicator-applet area. gnome-shell has a similer area.
[16:00] <DeadLock74633896> Mrokii: Can I access the Debian usb-modeswitch package from the LiveCD, because I use mobile broadband
[16:00] <theadmin> Dr_willis: That's not what (s)he wants -- (s)he has classic gnome but wants a Unity-style menu of some sort.
[16:00] <ForSpareParts> Dr_willis: yeah, theadmin's got it.
[16:00] <Dr_willis> ForSpareParts,  if you want a classic menu in Unity. that makes it easy. No need to use classic gnome to just have a menu like that.
[16:00] <KarpuzKabugu> hi everybody
[16:00] <Mrokii> DeadLock74633896: I don't know about usb-modeswitch. But you can add a CD in Synaptic, so I think you may be able to install files from the Live-CD. Though I've never tried that.
[16:01] <Dr_willis> classic gnome - from what i gather is also a 'may get removed in the next release' sort of thing. :) so dont get too atatched to it.
[16:01] <ForSpareParts> Dr_willis: Maybe I wasn't totally clear: I want a menu like Unity, but like, nothing else from Unity.
[16:01] <Dr_willis> awn also has a nice classic style menu you can use.
[16:01] <wine> hi all
[16:01] <Dr_willis> ForSpareParts,  if you want a 'dock' you mean like the unity launcher panel. id say try awn then.
[16:02] <ForSpareParts> Its "MAKE EVERYTHING HUGE" strategy distracts the hell out of me.
[16:02] <Oxymoron> Hi, I am basicly using this code in a network game: http://pastebin.com/QfcCALhx. For one strange reason, it works on Windows and other linux computers ... So its problem on my computer. I wondering, I get error "connect() failed (in trying to find out client ip): Permission denied". What could cause that in Ubuntu?
[16:02] <Dr_willis> You can make the unity laucnher smaller. down to 32 wide i belive.
[16:02] <ForSpareParts> (and Gnome Classic didn't come with mine -- I'm using 12.04. I installed it myself ; )
[16:02] <DeadLock74633896> Mrokii: Right. I don't really know anything about the Synaptic package, what is it/what does it do/how does it work? (Sorry if I sound like a total noob, but i'm fairly new to Ubuntu.)
[16:02] <Mrokii> ForSpareParts: Other options would "Cairo-Dock" or "Gnome-Do"
[16:03] <theadmin> ForSpareParts: Well just give Launchy a go, it's my favorite way to launch apps to be honest, just... can't get simplier -- ctrl-space, type app name (or even part of it), press Enter
[16:03] <ForSpareParts> Mrokii: Yeah, theadmin suggested Gnome-Do -- trying that right now.
[16:03] <theadmin> ForSpareParts: You can change ctrl-space to any other combination, that's just the default
[16:03] <cgi101> quixotedon im burning it on a cd
[16:03] <ForSpareParts> there are so many options!
[16:03] <inr> hi everyone,  got a question regarding photoshop. Does photoshop cs6 work fine on ubuntu 12.04? If so, how can i get it started?
[16:03] <Mrokii> ForSpareParts: Gnome Do hasn't been updated for quite some time though. I personally prefer Cairo Dock at the moment.
[16:03] <Dr_willis> !appdb | inr
[16:04] <MonkeyDust> !wine| inr
[16:04] <oupateddie> Anybody who has problems with Firefox 12 in Ubuntu 11.4
[16:04] <inr> ty
[16:04] <Dr_willis> oupateddie,  what kind of problems?
[16:04] <oupateddie> My flash related stuff does not work at all and it keeps on saying to upgrade which I have done 3 times now
[16:05] <Dr_willis> upgraded how?
[16:05] <oupateddie> I'n trying to eg upload a photo album to Face book or whatch You tube video, nothing is working after the latest update to V 12
[16:05] <L3top> upgraded how?
[16:06] <quixotedon> cgi101: have you checked your pc hardware compliance to 12.04/11 version specification requirements?
[16:06] <dury> hi there channel :)
[16:06] <morsnowski>  ein richtig tolle foto
[16:06] <morsnowski> https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/562639_2728711316752_1826294211_1620862_1578775817_n.jpg
[16:06] <Mrokii> DeadLock74633896: It may be that synaptic isn't installed by default. But you could try something else: Start "Ubuntu Software-Center" and search for Python2.7 in the opened window. See if it has a white-on-green checkmark. If so, Python2.7 should be installed. If not, you can install it there.
[16:06] <romain_> Hi guys I have an issue compiling a C code (in ubuntu 12.04) that I didn't have in de previous version :
[16:06] <romain_> I use the libX11 therefore "LDFLAGS=-lX11" in my Makefile.
[16:06] <romain_> But I get "undefined reference to `X ..." while compiling
[16:06] <morsnowski> sorry totally wrong window
[16:07] <dury> does anyone capture vhs videos to computer
[16:07] <oupateddie> it keep on stating that the flash player is not installed and I have done that as well. Chrome also states that shockwafe flash has crashed
[16:07] <ForSpareParts> Hey, I've got Do now -- how do I configure it?
[16:07] <Silversong> Hi peepz
[16:07] <dury> and what capture card you use?
[16:07] <ForSpareParts> Er, nevermind, found it.
[16:08] <DeadLock74633896> Mrokii: Still have the problem of connecting with my Dongle. I have one, so the minuite I try I'll time out. And I still don't know if I can access my Debian package on the CD. I'll do a quick search of the webs
[16:08] <oupateddie> I have been struggling with this since Firefox got itself updated to version 12
[16:09] <Dr_willis> FF12  on 12.04 seems to be working fine here with Facebook Picture uploads.. (i dont think that feature of FB uses flash)
[16:09] <damascene> oupateddie, here too
[16:09] <Mrokii> DeadLock74633896: You should be able to doubleclick on the deb-package, which should start Software Centre or some other app that lets you install that package.
[16:09] <oupateddie> Well in 11.04 it does and  you tube also does not display ant video at all
[16:10] <Dr_willis> For Youtube. i would suggest using its html5 feature.. http://youtube.com/html5
[16:10] <inr> hi, i want to remove linux ubuntu from my computer and go back to windows 7. please help.
[16:10] <oupateddie> I have the problem with FF and Chrome, both do not work in F/B as well as You tube
[16:10] <DeadLock74633896> Mrokii: Thanks, you've been very helpful. A soon as I try, I'll disconnect, so i'll come back if it doesn't work
[16:10] <Mrokii> oupateddie: I have had the same issues with 11.10 for the last few days before upgrading to 12.04. Really not sure what caused it.
[16:10] <Mrokii> DeadLock74633896: Sure. Good luck.
[16:11] <murple> oupateddie: Probably just put in the Windows 8 installation CD, reboot your computer and proceed to install.
[16:11] <dury>  inr: what's wrong
[16:11] <oupateddie> I am on Ubuntu Linux
[16:11] <inr> i tried to put in the windows 7 installation cd but i cant format my disks probably becouse i have ubuntu on it.
[16:11]  * Dr_willis thinks murple  sent to the wrong nick..
[16:12] <Dr_willis> inr,  delete the partions, let windows remake themn. use ubuntu live cd and fdisk/gparted if needed.
[16:12]  * murple things Dr_willis is right.
[16:12] <lorddelta> oupateddie: you using ubuntu 12.04? Cause for some reason, my youtube doesn't work...although I thought it was the browser/website...
[16:12] <oupateddie> I do not use Windows, have lost too much in the past and Microsoft is mad to ask teh prices they do for the operating system
[16:12]  * murple has a problem with a Webcam in 12.04 which worked perfectly with 11.10 and wonders if Dr_willis could assist, lest I start asking about how to install Windows as well!
[16:13] <lorddelta> murple, oupateddie, don't think he's talking about installing windows...sadly windows is free too (for most people)
[16:13] <oupateddie> No 11.04 and all worked well till about 2 weeks ago with Firefox upgrading to 12
[16:13] <MonkeyDust> murple  have you tried cheese?
[16:13] <Dr_willis> murple,  I havent used a webcam in years..
[16:13] <Pici> 55
[16:13] <dury> inr: boot your win7 cd at start
[16:13] <sk1special> anyone know how i get to the key bindings that control the cube zoom? or what the default key combo would be?
[16:13] <Mrokii> oupateddie: Somebody suggested to install the Firefox-extension named flash-aid, which is supposed to install the "correct" flash-plugin. It did not work for me (did install some flash-plugin and deinstalled another), but maybe you have more luck with it.
[16:14] <inr> where can i delete the partions?
[16:14] <lorddelta> The upgrade your laptop every 4 years isn't, however :D
[16:14] <Dr_willis> sk1special,  look at the settings for it in the 'ccsm' tool.
[16:14] <Dr_willis> !ccsm | sk1special
[16:14] <murple> MonkeyDust: I have and it worked fine in 11.10, now in 12.04 (Fresh install) it shows the webcam name but it is greyed out and cannot be selected. Nothing shows.
[16:14] <MonkeyDust> inr  use gparted o the live cd or usb
[16:14] <Mrokii> sk1special: If that's compiz then CompizConfig Settings Manager.
[16:14] <murple> Dr_willis: Alright then, thanks anyhow.
[16:14] <oupateddie> Mrokii thanks I'll try
[16:14] <Dr_willis> !webcam
[16:15] <dury> inr: boot your ubuntu cd or dvd at start and choose live without installing
[16:15] <sk1special> ight...yeah compiz. ill try installing the settings manager..and thanks for the channel list
[16:15] <Dr_willis> theres always the 'search askubuntu.com for your exact make device' :)
[16:15] <MonkeyDust> murple  works fine here, so it must be your-pc-related
[16:15] <murple> Dr_willis,  I'm fairly certain I have read that link, but it didn't provide any help.
[16:15] <lorddelta> Dr_willis: Really? Interesting.
[16:15] <dury> inr: ubuntu much better than win7
[16:15] <murple> MonkeyDust: Well it's nothing hardware since I haven't changed anything (Same PC and Webcam)
[16:16] <dury> video capture card in ubuntu
[16:17] <damascene> oupateddie, if you thing it's firefox why don't you try chrome or medori or arora
[16:17] <ruli> duty: why
[16:17] <dury> does anyone do that
[16:18] <murple> dury: Was this comment "video capture card in ubuntu" meant for me??
[16:19] <dury> murple: if anyone does video capture under ubuntu
[16:20] <dury> murple: that's all
[16:20] <murple> dury: I don't exactly understand, but that's okay.
[16:20] <lorddelta> Dr_willis: while askubuntu looks useful, looks like no one has ever tried using a jabra headset with linux before.
[16:21] <MonkeyDust> dury  you mean screen capture? use kazam
[16:21] <lorddelta> I don't own one so I'm not complaining. I did try using one I borrowed yesterday though to no avail. I think there are no drivers for it.
[16:21] <KM0201> lorddelta: then be a pioneer
[16:21] <lorddelta> KM0201: Like I said, I don't own one.
[16:22] <cgi101> i burned it on the cd same thing happens
[16:22] <lorddelta> KM0201: I'd love to though!
[16:22] <cgi101> nothing works
[16:22] <cgi101> µstupid os
[16:23] <dury> MonkeyDust: no.... just convert vhs video tapes to dvd or capture vhs video tapes to computer and make them  as mpeg 4 or other video format
[16:23] <KM0201> cgi101: perhaps you could enlighten us as to what your problem is
[16:23] <cgi101> iv told u guys already
[16:23] <cgi101> 5 times now
[16:23] <sk1special> okay no ones in the compiz room. i have the settings to change the zoom. and change most of the compiz cube bindings. but it does not list a zoom binding to change
[16:24] <KM0201> cgi101: well, i just got here.. I can't scroll to before I got here.
[16:24] <cgi101> this time i used a cd to boot it up and everything is going on the mous for once workt ok with fluid motion but then it came to the welcom and it failed it freezed up and no respnce anymore
[16:25] <MonkeyDust> dury  try devede, if you have a way to play vhs on pc
[16:26] <cgi101> im geting frustrated on this thing im stil not past instalation or wen it instals i cant get past the login screen
[16:27] <quixotedon> cgi101: maybe a hardware incompatibility? still, would you share your hardware specification?
[16:27] <cgi101> hold on where can i see my specs
[16:28] <quixotedon> on windows, you can find it at device manager
[16:29] <cordoval> I am on 12.04 latest ... why is ubuntu still using compiz? is it supposed to be this way?
[16:29] <cgi101> device manager where is that
[16:29] <quixotedon> cgi101: if you're using win7 with no problems, i thinks the hw specs should also support ubuntu
[16:29] <cordoval> my processor gets sucked up by compiz, skype java and teamviewer7
[16:29] <Stoo> cgi101: hit windows key + pause/break ... should bring up system properties.
[16:29] <cordoval> temperatures go up to 83 C
[16:29] <cordoval> anyone can help, this is not supposed to be this way
[16:30] <cordoval> is there any setting to tackle this to the root of the problem
[16:30] <cordoval> ?
[16:30] <cgi101> pause/break ? i dont have that
[16:31] <Stoo> cgi101: you sure? :-)  upper-right of keyboard?  Or just right-click on My Computer [or "Computer"] from the start menu and select properties ...
[16:31] <quixotedon> cgi101: windows button and type in "device manager"
[16:31] <cgi101> i think i got it
[16:31] <Tjampman> Hi, just installed ubuntu 12.4 and its not working at all, could anybody help me with some terminal ninja tricks?
[16:31] <lorddelta> cordoval: you might be able to a) turn off compiz and use unity 2d (I think), or B) install xfce etc if your process isn't up to compiz.
[16:31] <cgi101> i hate locolization of windows everything is in dutch
[16:32] <lorddelta> cordoval: The first involves logging out and changing which desktop you log into.
[16:32] <lorddelta> cordoval: the second involves installing via cmd line and doing the same.
[16:32] <Tjampman> I need to mount a usb pen through the terminal, but how do i find its designation?
[16:32] <BEC> hello; anyone can help with this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1979978 ?
[16:32] <cordoval> lorddelta: can you help me with a?
[16:32] <cgi101> quixotedon now what
[16:32] <stiltzkin> Hi all, I just did a clean install of Ubuntu 12.04 (technically Lubuntu, with LXDE desktop) but my computer will not boot. Graphical boot just hangs, and if I do recovery mode, it stops at a line that says "hostname stop/waiting." Anyone have any idea what could cause this?
[16:33] <jsaran> can anybody help me yahoo and some other sites not opening in ubuntu  and same is opening on same machine in windows xp
[16:33] <cordoval> which desktop should i tell it 2D?
[16:33] <cordoval> hmm thought it was different
[16:33] <irgendwer4711> hi, gnome is not detecting my soundcard
[16:34] <Matisse> hi
[16:34] <cgi101> http://i.imgur.com/Hz7x8.png
[16:34] <stiltzkin> Anyone know what "hostname stop/waiting" even means? Googling around it just looks like a network error
[16:35] <lorddelta> Hum. Lightdm is interesting. Not my cup of tea though. *keeps his kdm*
[16:35] <Matisse> Is it possible to set avidemux recoding with a certain resolution?
[16:35] <cgi101> quixotedon this thing
[16:35] <jsaran> anybody with sound knowledge of ubuntu 12.04
[16:36] <Matisse> I want to resize a blueray / mkv
[16:36] <lorddelta> jsaran: lol Dr_willis is pretty good though.
[16:36] <jsaran> yahoo and dailymotion sites not opening in ubuntu 12.04 can anybody help?
[16:37] <cordoval> ok lorddelta is there any other setting ? 2D does not seem that bad
[16:37] <cordoval> is that the low power option?
[16:37] <stiltzkin> jsaran, do the sites load partially or not at all
[16:37] <lorddelta> cordoval: by not that bad you mean it runs better?
[16:37] <cordoval> it heats up less
[16:37] <bounty> i have some problems about nvidia drivers with ubuntu 12.04 m so i decided install a compatible version . Which is the best : 10.01 LTS or 11.10 ?
[16:37] <BEC> anyone? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1979978
[16:38] <tyteen4a03> Hi, I am trying to remove KDE after installing it by using the command supplied here http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/pureubuntu, but the terminal gives me this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/992650/. Anybody have an idea why?
[16:38] <lorddelta> cordoval: no its not "low power" per say (although I imagine it helps), it just doesn't use your gpu to run the desktop
[16:38] <L3top> Does anyone know a replacement for guarddog in precise?
[16:38] <lorddelta> Less resource intensive.
[16:38] <dury> MonkeyDust: what does devade do?
[16:38] <L3top> !info guarddog lucid
[16:38] <cordoval> problem lorddelta is that my graphics card is nvidia gtx440 and there is no good driver
[16:38] <dury> MonkeyDust: how does it work
[16:38] <L3top> !info guarddog
[16:38] <cordoval> also if I set to dual monitor my gpu temperatures go way up
[16:38] <cordoval> 100C
[16:39] <cordoval> boiling point for no reason, i think ubuntu has problems
[16:39] <lorddelta> cordoval: Yeah, you probably want to stay away from anything that involves gpus then until you can find/make a good driver
[16:39] <meadhikari> I have "127.0.1.1 example.com" in my /etc/hosts file, but how would i do the redirect of example.com to 127.0.1.1/example.com please help
[16:39] <cordoval> is there a way to do dual monitor without burning my lappy?
[16:39] <BEC> can anyone help re 4K HDD's?
[16:39] <lorddelta> cordoval: its going to pass off all the graphics it can't handle to your processor, which is probably why its heating up.
[16:39] <cordoval> lorddelta: what about dual monitor, should i forget?
[16:39] <lorddelta> cordoval: probably. Get the gpu working.
[16:39] <cordoval> both heat up
[16:40] <dury> MonkeyDust: are u there?
[16:40] <cordoval> is a mess
[16:40] <mneptok> cordoval: are you using the proprietary nVidia drivers?
[16:40] <cordoval> yes
[16:40] <cordoval> nvidia x server settings
[16:40] <cordoval> it burns to 100C
[16:40] <quixotedon> cordoval: what do you mean with burning your lappy?
[16:40] <quixotedon> cgi101: hw spec? sorry was disconnected
[16:40] <lorddelta> *cough* cordoval, menptok, proprietary is probably the reason they don't work well.
[16:40] <cordoval> g73jw asus lappy
[16:40] <cordoval> game grade
[16:40] <mneptok> cordoval: the open source "nouveau" driver will do 2D. perhaps in more efficient ways? but if you need 3D, you need to proprietary driver.
[16:41] <mneptok> s/to/the/
[16:41] <cordoval> mneptok: no need for 3D
[16:41] <cordoval> i work programming
[16:41] <cordoval> don't care about gaming just have this behemoth
[16:42] <mneptok> cordoval: disable all 3D acceleration, and switch drivers. see what happens.
[16:42] <cordoval> mneptok: how to switch back to old drivers?
[16:42] <cordoval> i go to additional drivers and ... i guess try there
[16:42] <stjohnmedrano> good day all, any ideas whats the best software for creating a slideshow in images with sounds? thanks
[16:42] <cordoval> what are normal temperatures?
[16:43] <mneptok> cordoval: the same way you added the proprietary. disable those in the Restricted Drivers panel.
[16:43] <lorddelta> cordoval: try apt-get install nouveu (do you know apt-cache?)
[16:43] <lorddelta> If that doesn't work try apt-cache search nouveau
[16:43] <lorddelta> And then install the correct package that comes up
[16:43] <mneptok> lorddelta: nouveau is built-in to the kernel.
[16:43] <cordoval> E: Unable to locate package nouveau
[16:44] <lorddelta> mneptok: hmm. didn't know that! My proprietary drivers work, luckily.
[16:44] <mneptok> lorddelta: "nouveau" is what is used on nVidia chipsets if restricted drivers are not installed.
[16:44] <cordoval> NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver (version current) [Recommended]
[16:44] <cordoval> click remove i gues
[16:44] <cordoval> s
[16:44] <lorddelta> cordoval: so apparently just apt-get remove nvidia-drivers...
[16:45] <lorddelta> Or somesuch.
[16:45] <lorddelta> GUI works too.
[16:45] <cordoval> i even had green post-release updates
[16:45] <elanz> question
[16:45] <mneptok> cordoval: if you remove them and reboot, the kernel should default back to what it has compiled in. in this case nouveau.
[16:45] <doktah> how does one disable the screensaver?
[16:46] <cordoval> mneptok: so after reboot i go into 2D and just test i guess, any other thing i can do?
[16:46] <elanz> I modified /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf to have prepend domain-name-servers 10.10.0.3; rebooted the computer and my /etc/resolv.conf shows wrong dns info
[16:46] <bounty1> http://imagebin.org/212716 who can help me ? or i must install another version ?
[16:47] <mneptok> cordoval: this is probably the easiest thing, if changing drivers actually helps.
[16:47] <cordoval> so now it would be like my gpu would use default drivers
[16:47] <cordoval> it has 1.5GB memory
[16:47] <cordoval> and i have 8GBRAM on my lappy
[16:48] <cordoval> be back in 1 min
[16:49] <ringzer0> I love tomboy notes, but frequently switch between laptop and desktop - is there a way to completely sync my 2 ubuntu users across separate hardware?
[16:49] <ghostconn> dose anyone know how to bridge two wired connections using 12:04
[16:49] <BEC> ringzer0 I;d suggest Dropbox or Ubuntu One
[16:49] <BEC> that's what i do
[16:49] <ghostconn> i always have to disconnect both and only leave one connection open
[16:50] <elanz>  modified /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf to have prepend domain-name-servers 10.10.0.3; rebooted the computer and my /etc/resolv.conf shows wrong dns info
[16:50] <BEC> ringzer0 ah; 2 users? never tried that! maybe u could "share" a folder!
[16:50] <happycoolness> Hey everyone, I've upgraded to the latest ubuntu version (finally) on my home desktop computer and I'm having the two following issues: 1. files and folders are shown on my desktop, since I have tons of files and folders in my home directory this looks very cluttered and I want to just hide them. 2. Flash seems to have some sort of hardware acceleration bug and sometimes swaps the blue and red channels on youtube
[16:51] <BEC> happycoolness, re 1 I suggest you move them under Documents
[16:51] <BEC> & make folders like Inbox, Working, Reading, Archive, Incubate!
[16:51] <ghostconn> the acceleration problem would be ur video driver lol
[16:51] <eipi-1> hi, i just upgraded from 11.10 to 12.04 and now X does not start anymore, when running sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade it says that i have unmet dependencies: amongst others libgtk2.0 depends libxcursor1:i386 and libxrandr2:i386 which may cause problems with the X server. Whats the best way to solve these dep problems?
[16:52] <happycoolness> BEC: so there is no way to turn off viewing at all, eh? That kinda sucks, but I guess I cam move stuff around.
[16:52] <ghostconn> is there a way to control a ati 4870 fan speed without using flrx drivers
[16:52] <BEC> viewing? elaborate more
[16:52] <happycoolness> ghostconn: it was working fine in 11.10, but do video drivers get reinstalled on an update?
[16:52] <happycoolness> I mean, I just don't want to seem them on my background
[16:53] <jacekowski> hi people, anybody had experience with btrfs
[16:53] <ghostconn> happycoolness : no you will have to search for additional driver and install them that way
[16:53] <happycoolness> ghostconn: ok, I
[16:53] <ghostconn> type additional driver into you're search menu
[16:53] <happycoolness> *I'll do that
[16:53] <ghostconn> kk
[16:53] <cgi101> is there anything els i can try
[16:53] <BEC> happycoolness, ur personal files? just Ctrl+A  & Ctrl+X & paste them under Documtns
[16:53] <cgi101> i kinda did everything
[16:54] <happycoolness> BEC: its just that I have hard coded paths in scripts and stuff, but I guess I can do that
[16:54] <happycoolness> thanks for the help everyone
[16:54] <Hotwired> Hi all. I have a problem with a Network mounted drive. I mount it automatically in "home folder" window and it all works great as that user. But root cant access it. Any idea how i can mount it so root can read write too :)
[16:54] <w3bg33k> i just moved my site over to a new platform (wordpress) and a new server (ubuntu 10.04 - a vm from turnkey linux)...now whenever I click on a pdf to download I get this error in adobe when I click on the link "file does not begin with '%PDF-'." or if I save it & open the file up I get "Adobe Reader could not open 'filename.pdf' because it is either not a supported file type or because the file has been damaged."  Any suggestions?
[16:54] <ringzer0> Okay, i have tomboy notes synced now via ubuntuone
[16:54] <cgi101> it always ends in the same way it freezes up and the mous gets clunky
[16:54] <BEC> happycoolness, so it might breaks the links?! mmh; can't help with that but i guess u will have to correct them
[16:55] <happycoolness> BEC: yeah, no worries, I'll just write a script and pattern match :)
[16:55] <BEC> ringzer0; I'd suggest to make a backup of the data before sync with the other system
[16:55] <BEC> happycoolness, good luck
[16:56] <ghostconn> i need to change my video card fan speed. is there a way of doing this without installing the flrx ati driver? im running a ati 4870 but my idle temp is 75, because my fan speed is only 30%
[16:56] <cordoval> lorddelta:
[16:56] <ghostconn> with nvidia i use to use nvclock anythign similar?
[16:56] <cordoval> back it seems it is so so now, seems kind of the same, maybe a bit better
[16:56] <windbuntu> i noticed my boot up time has increased from 45 sec to about 1 min 5 sec in 12.04? are there some things that are set to bootup that do not need to boot awith ubuntu at start up or is it best to leave it alone?
[16:57] <DeadLock> hi #ubuntu
[16:58] <lelamal> windbuntu: leave it alone
[16:58] <_Marcus> Hi Deadlock
[16:58] <windbuntu> ok lelamal i kinda figured that
[16:58] <windbuntu> i do that with windows but i hav never tried it with ubuntu
[16:59] <DeadLock> _Marcus: Hello. You don't happen to know how to install .tar.bz2 packages in Ubuntu 11.10, do you?
[16:59] <_Marcus> DeadLock: Depends on what's inside the package. Just extract it first
[16:59] <ghostconn> any other way to control ati fan speed without using aticonfig?
[16:59] <_Marcus> DeadLock: Normally they come with a README or INSTALL, and it will contain instructions for compiling
[17:00] <Hotwired> is there a way to use remote files in linux commands
[17:00] <Hotwired> ie i want to do ddrescue /dev/sda1 ssh://remotemachine:/some/folder
[17:00] <happycoolness> BEC: I solved it! I remembered about .hidden files hiding stuff from you in the GUI file browser, so I added every filename into the .hidden file and then clicked on the desktop and ^r'ed and they all vanished :D
[17:00] <DeadLock> _Marcus: Thanx. It's a usb_modeswitch package, I need to install on a Live CD to install straight through software Center
[17:00] <DeadLock> _Marcus: I accidentally vegetated my system by uninstalling Python 2.7
[17:01] <BEC> happycoolness, great :D I've never heard of this; can u provide a link about it?
[17:01] <happycoolness> sure
[17:01] <jameslord> what is the command to extract the url from this string?
[17:01] <cordoval> lorddelta: hmm temperatures got stuck at 75 and 66 for GPU
[17:02] <jameslord> http://iyanwu.com/pastebin/showthread.php?tid=62
[17:02] <windbuntu> does ubuntu use all the cores and all the ram to boot up fast?
[17:03] <raven> very special need: how to create a video which contains a spectrum visualisation of an audio file? any ideas of tools they can do that and how to pipe theese tools?
[17:03] <noinflection> Hello everybody, did anyone succesfully installed and used an internet radio broadcasting app/server in ubuntu?
[17:03] <lorddelta> hmm...well if that's in Farenheit, you should be ok. That is room temperature after all...
[17:03] <cordoval> C
[17:04] <gnubie> noinflection>  radio tray is working fine for me
[17:04] <happycoolness> BEC: this is the best I could find http://linux.about.com/library/gnome/blgnome6n6r.htm
[17:04] <noinflection> gnubie > Thx, i will try it!
[17:04] <lorddelta> cordoval: If that's in C...ick. You are using the 2D desktop still?
[17:05] <BEC> happycoolness, ah I already knew this lol; thanks anyways
[17:05] <cannonball> If I wanted to rerun the post-installation update-alternatives configuration command that does a chained group (wrong terminology I'm sure) of commands, for example, java package, is there a way to view those scripts?  With rpm I would do 'rpm -q --scripts'.  Is there an equivalent in dpkg or some way in general to do find and run this in Ubuntu?
[17:05] <gnubie> noinflection>  I put it in my startup apps so it is on the task bar
[17:05] <cordoval> lorddelta: yes
[17:05] <BEC> happycoolness, I usually don;t use it since I have hidden files always shown
[17:05] <noinflection> gnubie > i want to transmit, not receive. Is radio-tray to transmit?
[17:06] <gnubie> noinflection>  Ino sorry
[17:06] <cordoval> lorddelta: this is in C but still much better than anything
[17:06] <cordoval> than 3D
[17:06] <triunity> Hey does xubuntu has its own separate room?
[17:06] <happycoolness> BEC: Ahhh, see, I almost always use the keyboard in Terminal since using the mouse hurts my arm, so I really have very little use for GUI based stuff in the first place
[17:06] <cordoval> 76C and 67C
[17:06] <wylde> triunity: yes #xubuntu
[17:06] <cordoval> I will blow my fan to see if i get it down, i have a cryo
[17:06] <BEC> happycoolness, hope someday I stop using the mouse too
[17:07] <triunity> wylde: Shoulda guessed that
[17:07] <BEC> it's really distracting
[17:08] <wylde> !info icecast | noinflection
[17:08] <wylde> bah
[17:08] <wylde> !info icecast2 | noinflection
[17:08] <cordoval> if ubuntu keeps burning my laptop then i will have to go windows7
[17:08] <cordoval> man
[17:08] <cordoval> never thought i reached this point
[17:09] <ghostconn> what would be the best driver to install for my ati 4870? proprietary graphics (post release updates or the other one
[17:09] <BEC> happycoolness, might u be able to help in this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1979978 ?
[17:09] <noinflection> wylde > yes, I installed icecast2, actually the server is up, but i don't understand it at all.
[17:10] <wylde> noinflection: It's been a long time since I've played with it, you also need a client that can connect to the server to "broadcast" from
[17:11] <noinflection> wylde > great i will look information.
[17:12] <noinflection> wylde > i found a plugin for rhythmbox that make it work as a client.
[17:13] <noinflection> wylde > my wrong, it is a client to listen.
[17:13] <wylde> noinflection: yeah I was just trying to think of something. That should do it. It was years a go when I played with it, took me a while to get the configuration right. Be patient and it'll get working :)
[17:13] <wylde> noinflection: ahh , I'll have a lok through the repos to see what I can find too.
[17:13] <noinflection> wylde: thanks
[17:14] <happycoolness> BEC: Hmmm I have no idea what is causing your problem there, but I don't know much about this sort of thing.
[17:14] <noinflection> wylde: don't bother, i'll keep looking. (http://www.icecast.org/ices.php)
[17:15] <BEC> happycoolness, never mind; thanks
[17:15] <wylde> noinflection: alrighty. gl with it :)
[17:15] <BEC> bye
[17:18] <notNicolas> My computer fails to start up 9/10 times (screen stays black after xubuntu splash screen, before login screen). My wireless becomes stuck on hardware blocked when I resume from standby. My laptop often doesn't go to sleep when I shut the lid.
[17:18] <notNicolas> why is this such a problem and why doesn't it happen on Windows
[17:19] <notNicolas> these bugs completely break the useability of linux for me
[17:19] <notNicolas> literally I can't even turn on my computer properly, as if the OS was coded by a student
[17:20] <notNicolas> I am so peeved right now
[17:20] <Guest63253> hello every body
[17:21] <mad_cgi101> guys i realy frustrated right now, i got me an old imac here and i put in the cd since it dint work again on my windows machine, geus what on my other computer it dousnt work ether, this is a stupid os sice i did everything right on the website
[17:22] <LmAt> How do I change the tty 1 terminal resolution
[17:23] <spotted> hi ppl someone find a solution for the usb failure in ubuntu 12.04?
[17:23] <monohedron> my cube snapped to the top, anybody know what i need to do to make it come back on its side/
[17:23] <chingzilla> I am having trouble creating a pbuilder chroot, where would be the best place to ask my questions?
[17:24] <TomatoKetchup> mad_cgi101, what is your problem? getting the live cd to boot?
[17:24] <chingzilla> I am having trouble creating a pbuilder chroot, where would be the best place to ask my questions?
[17:24] <Progster> I just installed rvm, and now all of a sudden I'm not in the sudoers file anymore... anyone care to help me understand what went wrong here?
[17:24] <mad_cgi101> no the problem is the os is bugged
[17:24] <mad_cgi101> i cant instal or dualboot on windows
[17:24] <TomatoKetchup> mad_cgi101, um... that's weird because it boots fine on my macbook and my pc
[17:25] <mad_cgi101> and it dousnt run on mac at all
[17:25] <mad_cgi101> what do u do on ur macbook
[17:25] <TomatoKetchup> dual boot win7/ubuntu here
[17:25] <juniorsa> Hi, I just setup 4 new ubuntu box 12.04, we have an existing box 10.04, we have a small local area network and the 10.04 box can be pinged by name, but I cannot ping the new boxes by name, they are all setup with static IPs, can anyone help me get these new boxes accessible by name?
[17:25] <TomatoKetchup> mad_cgi101, hold option key as soon as you boot
[17:25] <mad_cgi101> i doing this all day it isnt working
[17:26] <trism> chingzilla: what sort of problems? generally you just: sudo pbuilder create; and it will build the default one for your current distro
[17:26] <TomatoKetchup> mad_cgi101, might have to wait a few seconds, drive will show up, cd should show up too, might take a second to spin up, select the cd, and boot from that
[17:26] <mad_cgi101> u mean c?
[17:26] <TomatoKetchup> mad_cgi101, ... I hold down option on boot, brings up the boot menu on macs
[17:26] <Progster> and now I can't run sudo
[17:27] <Progster> nor can I do su -
[17:27] <Progster> am i being hacked?
[17:27] <Shanth> su
[17:27] <mad_cgi101> dude what option u got ctrl asl cmd
[17:27] <Progster> authentication failure
[17:28] <kelvinella> hi what software do I use to convert wav files to mp3?
[17:28] <spotted> hi ppl someone find a solution for the usb failure in ubuntu 12.04?
[17:28] <LordOfTime> spotted:  define "USB Failure"
[17:28] <juniorsa> anyone have any suggestions
[17:28] <kelvinella> and which software I can use to convert avi to ogg or mp4?
[17:28] <mad_cgi101> TomatoKetchup where is ur option key
[17:28] <TomatoKetchup> mad_cgi101, ah yeah C key for you, option is only on macbooks I suppose
[17:28] <SharlieCheen> kelvinella, Look for sound converter in synaptic.
[17:29] <mad_cgi101> TomatoKetchup holdin c til it gows black then purple with keybeord icon then black
[17:29] <spotted> the usb ports when i use the ubuntu shut down
[17:30] <mad_cgi101> TomatoKetchup how can i dual instal it wit mac os stil intact?
[17:30] <kelvinella> SharlieCheen, what about video?
[17:30] <spotted> like i use 10 minutes and them off
[17:30] <martian> Progster: you may want to reboot in to single user mode and rest your passwords and do a little reading on finding rootkits
[17:31] <SharlieCheen> kelvinella, Uhhh... There is something I used long ago, which I think was command line based... I forget the commands though.
[17:31] <Progster> this happened immediately after installing rvn
[17:31] <kelvinella> SharlieCheen, is it ffmpeg?
[17:31] <TomatoKetchup> mad_cgi101, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Intel_iMac
[17:31] <SharlieCheen> kelvinella, Yeah... I think it was... Good call.
[17:31] <lelamal> kelvinella: ffmpeg
[17:31] <kelvinella> thx
[17:31] <SharlieCheen> kelvinella, Make sure it has all the dependencies though or you will get a lot of failures.
[17:32] <Progster> if I installed something which changes/adds to profile.d, could that somehow affect my entry in sudoers?
[17:33] <triunity> Is there anyway of reducing the load of ubuntu/unity to make it where my netbook can use it without horrable lag?  Unity 2d helped, but just not enough
[17:33] <wwd> honestly, why use ubuntu if you don't like unity? This is the direction the distro is heading
[17:34] <mad_cgi101> TomatoKetchup did u do this
[17:34] <LordOfTime> wwd:  you can discuss this in #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:34] <Progster> martian: what would be the reason why I'm suddenly not in the sudoers file?
[17:34] <Progster> besides an attack?
[17:34] <LordOfTime> wwd:  but there are other ways to access Ubuntu without Unity, and other flavors of ubuntu as well with different desktop environments
[17:34] <triunity> xubuntu for example
[17:34] <lelamal> triunity: try lubuntu or xubuntu
[17:34] <TomatoKetchup> mad_cgi101, basically yes.
[17:34] <wwd> yea, of course
[17:35] <SharlieCheen> OR if you are brave Debian...
[17:35] <stabfacekill> Hello, I am looking for a little help I think it is an easy fix.
[17:35] <LmAt> stabfacekill: Then I will fix your problem for you.
[17:35] <LordOfTime> wwd:  so attacking Ubuntu directly doesn't help, a lot of people still use it, and will use it in the future
[17:35] <wwd> I'm not an ubuntu on the desktop kinda guy anyways
[17:35] <martian> Progster: I don't know. Sounds fishy.
[17:35] <Sharky> is there a desktop that isnt GNOME or KDE
[17:35] <LmAt> wwd: What kind of ubuntu do you like?
[17:35] <notNicolas> triunity, I had some big performance problems in unity on my netbook. installing xubuntu made a huge difference.
[17:35] <wwd> ubuntu server
[17:35] <LmAt> wwd: Ubuntu in the cloud?
[17:35] <SharlieCheen> Sharky, You mean something completely different?
[17:36] <triunity> lelamal, ironically I am on xubuntu currently.  And of course it works.  However Ubuntu is nice ;) and if i can just get another 150 - 200 Mb out of my system, I could use it
[17:36] <LordOfTime> LmAt:  wwd:  further discussion can be in #ubuntu-offtopic, lets try and keep #ubuntu clear for support stuff
[17:36] <Sharky> SharlieCheen, yes
[17:36] <martian> Progster: you should reboot in to single user mode, and perhaps look through your /var/log/auth.log
[17:36] <SharlieCheen> Sharky, Try Awesome or Enlightenment.
[17:36] <LmAt> LordOfTime: Right.  How do I change the terminal resolution of tty 1?
[17:36] <Sharky> SharlieCheen, hm ok were do i get it?
[17:36] <JPeterso2> i've gotten the configuring-mysql-server-5.5 five times during do-release-upgrade
[17:36] <JPeterso2> *dialog
[17:36] <lelamal> triunity: if you think it's a problem of memory, then you can try instgalling more, it's cheap these days
[17:36] <LmAt> stabfacekill: I'm not sure.  My computer doesn't have a lid :(
[17:37] <LordOfTime> LmAt:  you've got the same question i've had since 9.04, i dont have an answer for you
[17:37] <stabfacekill> hah
[17:37] <SharlieCheen> Sharky, Google...
[17:37] <LmAt> LordOfTime: It changes!!  How do I make it change!?  amazing..
[17:37] <LmAt> LordOfTime: I don't want to change the resolution...but how does the terminal decide how many characters wide and tall the output is?
[17:37] <LmAt> LordOfTime: I don't want the text to change size.
[17:37] <LmAt> LordOfTime: I just want to use a different amount of the monitor.
[17:37] <LordOfTime> LmAt:  terminal != tty
[17:38] <triunity> lelamal, Can i upgrade netbook ram easily?  I mean, sure my desktop... but a computer the size of my pocket?
[17:38] <LordOfTime> LmAt:  so i can't answer for you about TTY
[17:38] <LordOfTime> not exactly, at least
[17:38] <stabfacekill> Issue - My power settings don't display an option to turn off my laptop when I close the lid, just suspend or do nothing. Any suggestions?
[17:38] <lelamal> triunity: I'm not sure, but you could ask in the shop.
[17:38] <LmAt> LordOfTime: hmm.
[17:38] <LmAt> LordOfTime: I'll give you the long version then.
[17:38] <wwd> LordOfTime:  wasn't attacking ubuntu at all.
[17:38] <triunity> Ill look into it
[17:38] <LordOfTime> LmAt:  i'd rather you not, i'm headed off to deal with a broken server
[17:38] <LmAt> LordOfTime: I'm using vbox.  It works well on tty 7 (gnome)
[17:39] <LmAt> LordOfTime: Have fun!
[17:39] <uglyoldbob> so my ubuntu 10.04 is trying to upgrade to linux-2.6.32-41-generic and it complains about not finding /boot/grub/menu.lst and asks to generate it. Will saying yes cause it to lose my current GRUB settings?
[17:39] <LmAt> I'm using vbox.  It works well on gnome at tty 7, but tty 1-6 is very small (only using like 60x60 characters)  How do I let ubuntu use more screen real-estate?
[17:40] <SharlieCheen> LmAt, Take a look at a wiki page for v86d.
[17:40] <jsaran> yahoo and other some sites not working in ubuntu but working in windows xp . Pls can any body solve this problem
[17:40] <SharlieCheen> That may help with your tty session resolutions.
[17:40] <LmAt> SharlieCheen: Thanks!
[17:40] <wwd> jsaran: how is it not working? what browser?
[17:41] <SharlieCheen> LmAt, Arch Linux has a good write up on it, which you can apply to ubuntu.
[17:42] <pascal> Hi, someone know if firestarter works corectly with a ubuntu dhcp server
[17:42] <stabfacekill> Does anyone know how to make the power settings to "Power off" "When lid is closed"?
[17:42] <rkhshm> under LAN I"m trying to get the hostname of any pingable IP ..
[17:42] <rkhshm> how do i do it?
[17:42] <SharlieCheen> LmAt, http://linuxhub.net/2010/06/fix-big-and-ugly-plymouth-in-ubuntu-10-04-lucid-lynx/
[17:42] <McFaggotson> Is it possible to edit and rename the Update Manager to Software Updater?
[17:43] <LordOfTime> McFaggotson:  probably at the source code level, but not without a recompile i think...
[17:43] <jsaran> yahoo and other sites are not working in ubuntu 12.04 can any body solve this problem
[17:43] <LordOfTime> McFaggotson:  since the package is called update-manager
[17:43] <LordOfTime> jsaran:  define "not working"
[17:43] <McFaggotson> LordOfTime; So how would one do that?
[17:43] <jsaran> just not loading
[17:43] <LordOfTime> McFaggotson:  download the source code, and modify it?
[17:44] <LordOfTime> jsaran:  any specific errors being thrown?
[17:44] <jsaran> still just not loading
[17:44] <lelamal> !patience | jsaran
[17:44] <McFaggotson> LordOfTime; Where would one find the source code?
[17:44] <p014k> lol
[17:44] <LordOfTime> McFaggotson:  probably some bzr branch on launchpad, i dont know where the source code is though
[17:44] <stabfacekill> ::frowny face::
[17:44]  * LordOfTime doesnt keep track of the source code for every application
[17:45] <McFaggotson> LordOfTime; Which one of these do I need? https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager. I'm on 12.04.
[17:45]  * LordOfTime sighs
[17:45] <LordOfTime> McFaggotson:  i take it you don't see where  it says "precise"?
[17:46] <McFaggotson> LordOfTime; I am asking if I need all of them.
[17:46] <martian> jsaran: open a terminal window and type "ping yahoo.com". What is the result?
[17:46] <LordOfTime> McFaggotson:  take the one from precise-updates
[17:46] <trism> McFaggotson: if you have the source repositories enabled, you can: apt-get source package_name; to download the source package for any package in the repos
[17:46] <LordOfTime> or listen to trism
[17:46]  * LordOfTime once again ahs to deal with exploding servers
[17:47] <wylde> McFaggotson: id the source that you want is in the repos you can do 'apt-get source <packagename>' it will download the current version to the directory you're currently in.
[17:47] <McFaggotson> Is it possible to download it from another operating system?
[17:47] <LordOfTime> McFaggotson:  best not, just in case :P
[17:47] <stabfacekill> lmAT: is there another avenue I might about to find the answer to this question do you think?
[17:48] <McFaggotson> LordOfTime; Booting in Ubuntu then. brb soon.
[17:49] <armando__> olaaa
[17:49] <armando__> qee pasaa
[17:49] <armando__> xdd
[17:49] <l2tp> hi
[17:49] <armando__> hi my name is Armanddo
[17:50] <armando__> i m speak spanish
[17:50] <lelamal> !es | armando__
[17:50] <l2tp> could anybode help with wifi problem on 12.04?
[17:50] <notNicolas> l2tp: no, it's beyond hope. give up right now
[17:51] <martian> l2tp: Possibly. Ask away,
[17:51] <armando__> bye
[17:51] <khem_> http://bpaste.net/show/pF2K76EyDLUpvoyllyvy/ - can anyone see why my network won't work after applying these network aliases to my interfaces configuration file?
[17:51] <l2tp> ok? I have compaq6910p
[17:51] <mtec007> i recently tried to change /etc/default/grub to change GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" and GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="" to "text". the problem i am having is i can not mount usb or sd cards, or make changes to the "users". its the same problem as people were having with automatic login not too long ago.
[17:51] <LordOfTime> !privmsg | jsaran
[17:51] <LordOfTime> jsaran:  also, unsolicited random pings are not appreciated
[17:52] <mtec007> i had to revert my changes also.
[17:52] <martian> l2tp: it will help others to put your question on one line
[17:52] <inr> hi, i'v tried to uninstall linux ubuntu 12.04 without success. I can't format my discs, with my windows 7 installation cd. please help.
[17:52] <LordOfTime> inr:  boot to a live CD environment and modify your system
[17:52] <LordOfTime> windows doesn't like non-Windows partitions
[17:53] <LordOfTime> :P
[17:53] <TomatoKetchup> hrm, thunderbird's font sizes are driving me nuts
[17:53] <inr> how do i boot to a live cd enviroment?
[17:54] <mtec007> create a live cd, or usb
[17:54] <stabfacekill> Does anyone know how to make the power settings to "Power off" "When lid is closed"?
[17:54] <uglyoldbob> anybody had problems with a non-existant /boot/grub/menu.lst when upgrading the kernel package on ubuntu 10.04?
[17:54] <MrFaggotson> Why doesn't it let me install the bootloader to a XFS partition?
[17:55] <martian> stabfacekill: I'm not on a laptop at the moment, but I thought that was one of the options in the power manager control panel
[17:55] <stabfacekill> its is not displaying on mine
[17:55] <stabfacekill> I only get the options suspend or do nothing
[17:55] <l2tp> with wifi card 10:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN [Kedron] Network Connection (rev 61)
[17:55] <Progster> ok I figured it out. Like the foolish n00b that I am, by accident I seem to have removed my own account from many groups, including admin. Hence my removal from the sudoers file. I'm in recovery mode (Ubuntu 12.04), trying to add myself back, but I get a message back saying: can't lock /etc/passwd file now; try again later. Any ideas?
[17:55] <uglyoldbob> stabfacekill: my laptop shows a shutdown option for "when laptop lid is closed"
[17:55] <mtec007> stabfacekill, same thing ming is showing. no poweroff.
[17:55] <l2tp> and there is desktop with ralink wifi usb dongle and ubuntu 10.04
[17:56] <l2tp> desktop connects to my access point fine
[17:56] <stabfacekill> Is there a way to do write it in manually?
[17:56] <uglyoldbob> Progster: ctrl + alt + f1, login as root?
[17:56] <martian> stabfacekill: looks like you can fix this with the gnome tweak tool as described here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/880331
[17:56] <Progster> this actually explaikns it
[17:56] <Progster> http://askubuntu.com/questions/79933/deleted-myself-from-admin-group-now-getting-error-usermod-cannot-lock-etc-pa
[17:57] <stabfacekill> thank you very much martian: I will try it out!
[17:57] <armando_> hi
[17:57] <l2tp> but on laptop I have growing Invalid misc and           Bit Rate=1 Mb/s
[17:58] <l2tp> there is less than meter between my laptop and ralink usb dongle on desktop
[17:58] <l2tp> any idea how to fix it?
[18:00] <martian> l2tp: what type of wireless card is in the laptop?
[18:00] <Pessimist> !dev
[18:00] <uglyoldbob> grub-install -v  tells me "grub-install (GNU GRUB 0.97)"
[18:00] <imbezol> Progster: got it all figured out? are you using the gui "Users and Groups" to try and fix it?
[18:01] <l2tp> martian, Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN [Kedron] Network Connection (rev 61)
[18:01] <stabfacekill> hehe Martian: if I disappear you fixed me!
[18:03] <martian> l2tp: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[18:03] <MrFaggotson> Is it even possible to get Ubuntu installed on XFS?
[18:03] <scientes> I lost my click-to-focus
[18:03] <scientes> the mouse highlights things, but click dont do anything
[18:03] <scientes> besides select text
[18:03] <scientes> help pls
[18:03] <l2tp> martian 12.04
[18:03] <scientes> middle-click still works
[18:03] <martian> !enter | scientes
[18:03] <scientes> i tried metacity --replace, but that didn't work
[18:04] <l2tp> martian just a minute - I'll paste it to pastebin
[18:04] <imbezol> MrFaggotson: can't see why not.. you'd need to use an initrd
[18:04] <scientes> it started with gdb SITSTOPing firefox, which made everything lock up, so i killed gdb
[18:04] <MrFaggotson> imbezol: A what?
[18:05] <imbezol> MrFaggotson: if you're trying to do it through the installer, i'm not sure it supports it
[18:05] <imbezol> MrFaggotson: if you know what you're doing though.. you could put one onto an xfs filesystem
[18:05] <MrFaggotson> imbezol: Well, yeah.. So, how do I install it then?
[18:05] <martian> l2tp: looks like this worked for others with the same problem in 12.04: http://www.unixmen.com/resolve-slow-connexion-when-using-wifi-in-ubuntu-1104-natty-narwhal/
[18:05] <imbezol> MrFaggotson: explain why you want to first
[18:06] <MrFaggotson> imbezol: It's a stable filesystem, and I tested it to be faster than any other. And since I do a lot of file transfers, I need speed.
[18:06] <l2tp> martian, http://pastebin.com/hbgtcD7B
[18:07] <l2tp> martian, funny. I've installed 12.04 to my desktop, but it works so bad with my ralink usb wifi dongle, so I've found my hdd with ubuntu 10.04 and compiled custom driver for ralink
[18:08] <l2tp> now I've installed ubuntu 12.04 on my laptop - and problems with wifi again
[18:08] <l2tp> funny - desktop and laptop are from HP
[18:08] <zyxon> Hi, the background of lightdm (unity greeter) does not match my wallpaper on 12.04. Why is that so (it does change for other user accounts)?
[18:09] <MrFaggotson> imbezol: So, how do I do it?
[18:10] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[18:10] <uglyoldbob> what just happened?
[18:10] <imbezol> MrFaggotson: does the installer give you the option to use xfs?
[18:11] <martian> uglyoldbob: it's just IRC stuff. Managing lots of people.
[18:11] <MrFaggotson> imbezol: Yeah, but I can't install GRUB2 on there :/
[18:11] <zyxon> Hi, the background of lightdm (unity greeter) does not match my wallpaper on 12.04. Why is that so (it does change for other user accounts)?
[18:12] <imbezol> MrFaggotson: does it give an error?
[18:12] <MrFaggotson> imbezol: It simply doesn't let me choose sda5 in my case.
[18:12] <martian> zyxon: settings are in /etc/lightdm/unity-greeter.conf
[18:12] <l2tp> martian, ok, I've turned off N-mode on wifi as described in topic on your link
[18:13] <l2tp> but I've still growing Invalid misc
[18:13] <jazzkutya> 12.04 lts server, installing right now. installation stops at menu "Configuring package manager". drops back to menu when trying to do this step. on alt-f4 i have this: INFO: Menu item 'apt-setup-udeb' succeeded but requested to be left unconfigured.
[18:13] <l2tp> It grows so quickly
[18:13] <zyxon> martian: no such file exists and I swear that I didn't touch it. The background changes as expected if I use one of the built-in wallpapers
[18:13] <uglyoldbob> so the linux-image-2.6.32-41-generic (2.6.32-41.89) fails to configure properly on ubuntu 10.04 becuase of a problem with update-grub. how should I fix this?
[18:14] <Kyle__> How chan you install something that requires java (like scilab), with a non-default java?  I've got openjdk's java7 installed, but this install keeps wanting to install openjdk java 6
[18:14] <Kyle__> s/chan/can
[18:15] <rensvind_> how do I add new workspaces in ubuntu 12.04?
[18:16] <Kyle__> rensvind_: I beleive it's in a control panel.  I'm on xfce4 here.  Holdon.
[18:16] <jsaran> browser just staying waiting mode for loading yahoo sites and some more sites , what will be the problem
[18:16] <openbees> windows is better than linux ... windows ROCKS !!!
[18:17] <imbezol> MrFaggotson: lots of info from googling but.. seems people have had success making a small /boot partition with ext3, and then / on xfs
[18:17] <rensvind_> Kyle__,  No its not
[18:17] <subb1> hello all !
[18:17] <duckx> how do i go about managing my apache and dns configurations?
[18:18] <openbees> unity sucks ... windows rocks !!
[18:18] <Kyle__> rensvind_: You're right. I just opened my laptop to check!
[18:18] <KM0201> ..
[18:18] <imbezol> duckx: do you have specific questions about it?
[18:18] <Myrtti> openbees: did you have a Ubuntu support question or problem?
[18:18] <imbezol> duckx: myself i use vim.. but there are lots of ways
[18:19] <martian> duckx: you edit your /etc/apache2/apache2.conf and /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/* settingsd
[18:19] <jsaran> browser stays in waiting mode in ubuntu 12.04 LTS any help
[18:19] <MrFaggotson> imbezol: Oh, yes! How could have I forgotten about that idea!
[18:19] <duckx> currently i have a vps with ubuntu installed and i want to migrate a few websites over.. but im not sure if there is already a tool to manage all the dns and apache configurations.. i know how to do it manually already but that just takes too long
[18:19] <Kyle__> rensvind_: Now I recall something about an extra control panel to install...lemmie think.
[18:19] <sayed> hi
[18:19] <jazzkutya> Hi there
[18:19] <jazzkutya> 12.04 lts server, installing right now. installation stops at menu "Configuring package manager". drops back to menu when trying to do this step. on alt-f4 i have this: INFO: Menu item 'apt-setup-udeb' succeeded but requested to be left unconfigured.
[18:19] <MrFaggotson> imbezol: I'm guessing a gig will be plenty for it.
[18:19] <csgeek> how do I get a taskbar in unity?  ie.  when pidgin is closed usually it gets minimized to the task bar... (using pidgin as an example )
[18:19] <duckx> it would be nice to have a tool that cna just set everything up for me and create the directories of where the sites would reside.. like how cpanel does it
[18:19] <imbezol> MrFaggotson: 100 megs would probably be lots
[18:19] <sayed> any egyptian girl for chat
[18:20] <martian> duckx: there may be some third party tools to do so, but there is not such a tool built in to ubuntu
[18:20] <MrFaggotson> imbezol: Oh, cool.
[18:20] <subb1> I have: 12.04 installed. Ati mobility radeon 5350 madison graphic chipset. I installed the prop driver from http://www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/amd-driver-installer-12-4-x86.x86_64.run . Now I am not able to adjust my screen brightness from 'settings'. I move the slidebar to decrease it, but no change to brightness level. Please help !
[18:20] <imbezol> MrFaggotson: hmm.. actually looking at my own it's 135 megs in size
[18:20] <duckx> what would i be looking for ?
[18:20] <imbezol> MrFaggotson: 250 would be safe for space during upgrades and such
[18:20] <subb1> I have toshiba satellite laptop.
[18:20] <proka> Hey guys. Does anyone know if there is a way of using Skype on Pidgin without the Skype program running?
[18:21] <martian> duckx: I dunoh. google for "magically do work for me" ;)
[18:21] <rensvind_> Kyle__, Please tell me if you find out, I cant find the settings :(
[18:21] <jsaran> yahoo like some sites are not loading in ubuntu 12.04 any helps pls
[18:21] <MrFaggotson> imbezol: Will make it that.
[18:21] <duckx> yea its  called cpanel
[18:22] <Kyle__> rensvind_: No problem.
[18:22] <duckx> how about webmin.. anyone used tat before ?
[18:22] <subb1> jsaran, only some sites are not being resolved on your browser?
[18:23] <imbezol> duckx: i've used it but find i'd rather do it by command line where i can script things and don't have to troubleshoot why certain things aren't behaving in webmin like i expect them to
[18:23] <martian> subb1: I was trying to help him earlier. He is able to telnet to yahoo.com on port 80 and connect, but issuing "get /" returns nothing he says.
[18:23] <llutz> !webmin | duckx
[18:23] <imbezol> duckx: and last i looked, webmin didn't have much in the way of tools to assist with a migration
[18:23] <MrFaggotson> imbezol: Yep, seems to allow me to install it just fine now.
[18:23] <duckx> imbezol, how do u manage say 10 sites.. u'll have to mess with vhost files and apache config files no ?
[18:23] <imbezol> MrFaggotson: cool
[18:25] <qkslvrwolf> Is there a known way to get ubuntu 12.04, running in KVM, to shutdown on APCI calls without the 60 second timeout?
[18:25] <antnash> Hey guys. Can anyone point me to a way to find out why I'm only getting audio through the left on my nvidia gt 520?
[18:25] <qkslvrwolf> I've set everything I can find inside of dconf-edit
[18:25] <subb1> martian, well if he is able to telnet to yahoo.com, then dns resolution works fine. he needs to provide more info then..
[18:25] <imbezol> duckx: you'd have a separate file for each site..
[18:25] <martian> duckx: once you get it set up, it's not that much work IMO, but then again I'm not having outside parties ftping in or anything. I just create a new directory, copy the sites-available config file from another one, and change a few lines.
[18:25] <imbezol> duckx: then you can just move the file in or out of the sites-enabled dir
[18:25] <Kyle__> rensvind_: Well the program I was thinking of is myunity, and it doesn't do what you want.  Sorry :/
[18:25] <rensvind_> Kyle__, ok
[18:26] <duckx> what about the /etc/hosts ?
[18:26] <duckx> u have to modify that too no ?
[18:26] <imbezol> duckx: no
[18:26] <duckx> just the apache2/sites-available folder only ?
[18:26] <HowardTheDuck> hey suckers
[18:26] <tibrox> I can login to ubuntu 12.04 as a guest, but my own user login causes X to crash and return me to the login screen.   What can I do to restore the gui on my own user?
[18:26] <imbezol> duckx: pretty much. you could have a file that is a virtualhost definition for the site, and toss it in the dir
[18:27] <martian> duckx: no, the domain doesn't have to be in the hosts file. Your dns server just has to point that domain to your IP and then in the site config you specify the 'ServerName'
[18:27] <imbezol> duckx: then run an "apache2ctl configtest" to verify the syntax is good, then "apache2ctl graceful" to activate it
[18:27] <imbezol> duckx: you would have taken care of DNS separately though
[18:27] <Dr_willis> rensvind_,  i recall the webupd8 blog site having some mention of changeing the # of workspaces.  i forget what artical.
[18:29] <gregbair123> hello
[18:30] <martian> hi
[18:30] <rensvind_> Kyle__,   myunity actually has a setting for this,  and it has the setting i put in with gconftool, but its not working. I will try to reboot..
[18:31] <Dr_willis> Kyle__,  Myunity worked for me just now. got a 3x3 desktop going.
[18:31] <dury> hi there again dudes :)
[18:32] <dury> keeping all right ?
[18:32] <martian> dury: we are all women here.
[18:32] <dury> hahahaha
[18:32] <Dr_willis> even thebots are women
[18:32] <Kyle__> Dr_willis: Humm.  11.10 or 12.04?  My 12.04 laptop it didn't offer the option for me.
[18:32] <dury> good on you martian .-)
[18:33] <Dr_willis> Kyle__,  12.04 - in myunity, under the 'Desktop' tab. sliders at the bottom for the # of rows/colums
[18:33] <Dr_willis> even has the 'add a show desktop button' that i see asked about in here about once a day
[18:33] <Kyle__> Dr_willis: Ooh I see.  Heh.  It doesn't let me change it because I'm in unity-2d.  I wonder why on earth there would be a difference?
[18:34] <Dr_willis> unity2d is a totally differnt wm, and differnt settings, since it is 2 differnt  desktops basically.
[18:34] <jazzkutya> 12.04 lts server, installing right now. installation stops at "Configuring package manager". drops back to menu when trying to do this step. on alt-f4 i have this: INFO: Menu item 'apt-setup-udeb' succeeded but requested to be left unconfigured. Please help
[18:34] <Dr_willis> but Unity2d i hear is going bye-bye in the next release.
[18:34] <Kyle__> Dr_willis: How do you switch between them?  Some GUI thing, or apt-get remove && apt-get install?
[18:35] <Dr_willis> Kyle__,  select the one you want at the Login screen
[18:35] <subb1> any help guys?
[18:35] <Kyle__> Dr_willis: So sective black magic hu?
[18:35] <kelvinella> does anyone know how to convert avi to mp4 in ubuntu?
[18:35] <Dr_willis> Kyle__,  there in the sessions menu.. like linux has used for years. ;)
[18:35] <dury> have some VHS tapes... want to transfer to computer... which hard device and soft application are suitable?
[18:35] <Dr_willis> kelvinella,  winff, mencoder, arista, ffmpeg...
[18:36] <Kyle__> kelvinella: There are many ways, but the easiest way to do it where you know you'll get a good output is handbrake.
[18:36] <DocPlatypus> Okay, anyone here who remembers my font problem from last night... I found an ugly workaround. I copied the Liberation font files to my .fonts directory, and they now show up. Am I asking for trouble with this or can I just leave it as is?
[18:36] <Dr_willis> kelvinella,  a avi file could be  using the mpeg codec.. and allready be a mp4 ;)
[18:36] <Kyle__> Dr_willis: black magick mouse clicks.
[18:36] <tibrox> how can I get root?  My stupid stupid stupid guest account isn't part of sudoers!
[18:36] <DocPlatypus> dury: if you can find one, a 1394 DV-analog bridge, a 1394 card, and dvgrab and/or kino
[18:36] <duckx> what are people's thoughts on ubuntu vs gentoo ? one of my friends keep insisting i install gentoo instead
[18:36] <kelvinella> ffmpeg doesnt work
[18:36] <tibrox> it's bloody useless.  How can I fix my machine when it's read-only
[18:36] <kelvinella> nor winff
[18:37] <kelvinella> let me try handbrake
[18:37] <Kyle__> trapni: That's because it's a guest account.
[18:37] <tibrox> how can I fix my machine when my sudo account can't login?
[18:37] <kelvinella> how to install handbrake?  i am on ubuntu10.10
[18:38] <kelvinella> does avidemux work?
[18:38] <Kyle__> kelvinella: Go to the handbrake page, they've got a ppa, and instructions on how to install.
[18:40] <lorddelta> Um, this might not be the best place to ask, so perhaps you could at least point me elsewhere; I have a problem with pulseaudio and speech-dispatcher. Speech dispatcher, when it has been starting itself as a service, hogs the pulseaudio process, meaning that I, the user, can not access any hardware sound...this means that I cannot run pulseaudio and speech-dispatcher at the moment. This can be remedied by removing speech-dispatcher, or stopping
[18:40] <Industrial> I have installed XFCE and GNOME(3). What command do I use to completely remove those and all packages that came with them otherwise not required on the system?
[18:41] <dury> DocPlatypus: how's that?
[18:41] <Dr_willis> !puregnome
[18:41] <Industrial> ty
[18:41] <Dr_willis> kelvinella,  winff definatly works  here on 12.04
[18:41] <Kyle__> Dr_willis: The problem is unity is that with blending, the launcher-bar looks pee-yellow with my background picture.
[18:41] <DocPlatypus> dury: if not, I think you can pretty much grab any USB analog video converter that complies to the device class and use that
[18:41] <DocPlatypus> dury: not sure which software, though
[18:42] <kelvinella> i cant convert anything in winff
[18:42] <Dr_willis> Kyle__,  you can change the transparancy level of the launcher bar,
[18:42] <Dr_willis> kelvinella,  i used winff to convert some 300+ videos last week...
[18:42] <Dr_willis> arista is also a very good app.
[18:42] <Kyle__> Oh this is too hard, whine whine whine, going back to osx </sarcasm>
[18:42] <Bertrand_> Hello there, guys, girls...
[18:42] <Bertrand_> Good afternoon.
[18:42] <Arney> Hey. Anyone have experience configuring samba printer shares? Authenticating works on folders, but not printers... wtf?
[18:43] <Dr_willis> Arney,  i recall ages ago setting up printers where 'guest' could print to them.
[18:43] <Dr_willis> Arney,  as a work around.
[18:43] <Kyle__> Arney: Are you sharing all printers automatically, or sharing them one by one like you do the folders?
[18:43] <Dr_willis> but my printers now are all networked by theirselfs. ;)
[18:43] <Arney> Even that won't work... even public = yes won't work.
[18:43] <Bertrand_> Can some good soul tell me if I can change the size of existent partitions with fdisk (or cfkisk)?
[18:43] <Arney> all auto... it shows up on clients.
[18:43] <Arney> But no one can authenticate a job.
[18:44] <Dr_willis> Bertrand_,  you want to keep the data?
[18:44] <Bertrand_> Dr_willis Yes, I want to.
[18:44] <Dr_willis> Bertrand_,  then use gparted. not fdisk or  cfdisk
[18:44] <Kyle__> Arney: I've experience doing it, but honestly windows can print to IPP printers, so I've not done it in ages.  I point windows to cups and tell it to use the generic color imagesetter drivers (comes with allversions of windows), and be happy.
[18:44] <Kyle__> Arney: Try sharing a printer explicitly, you should be able to set the permissions on that share then.
[18:44] <Arney> Kyle__:  thanks for the tip.
[18:44] <Bertrand_> Yes, Dr_willis: Thing is I don't have gparted here, and my conection is 48kbps... I would take hours and hours to download it.
[18:45] <kelvinella> Dr_willis, how?
[18:45] <kelvinella> Dr_willis, i am on ubuntu 10.10
[18:45] <tibrox> why can't I su to my account from guest?
[18:45] <Dr_willis> Bertrand_,   fdisk and cfdisk does NOT keep existing data. there is the parted command line  tool.. but  ive never used it.
[18:46] <Dr_willis> kelvinella,  ive not used 10.10 in ages. I recall once having to set winff to use 'xterm -e' as its output terminal.   for somereason its default settings  were not set correctly
[18:46] <taher> hello there
[18:46] <Bertrand_> I was thinkin on using resize2fs, Dr_willis.
[18:46] <Kyle__> tibrox: A) debian and debian descendents (like ubuntu) don't su, as root has no password.  They "sudo su -" or "sudo bash".  B) guest accounts are prohibited from gaining control of the system by default
[18:47] <tibrox> su is linux for "switch user", no?
[18:47] <Kyle__> tibrox: Add a normal user, make sure it's a member of sudo or admin.
[18:47] <Dr_willis> kelvinella,  i recall having to change the 'terminal to run winff in' from   /usr/bin/x-terminal-emulator    to 'xterm'   in some eralier releases of ubuntu.
[18:47] <Kyle__> tibrox: Actually all unicies.  But su as a non-root user requires you enter a password.  No root password means you can't su to root as a non root user.
[18:47] <tibrox> Kyle__, would love to.  I'm locked out of my machine by faulty X login (only guest gets in).  Everything else is "read-only".  Going mad here with work deadlines looming
[18:47] <taher> i want to enable natting on my ubuntu server to allow other machiene in my LAN to connect to the internet ..... can any one help ,,, i tried many times .. bit i failed to do it
[18:48] <Dr_willis> tibrox,  what happens when users try to login?
[18:48] <Kyle__> tibrox: Did you install ssh (openssh-server)?  Ssh in
[18:48] <Dr_willis> theres the consoles also. :)
[18:49] <tibrox> Dr_willis, the guest gets in with no problem.  The console is useless with no permissions
[18:49] <taher> hay guys can anyone help please
[18:49] <taher> i want to enable natting on my ubuntu server to allow other machiene in my LAN to connect to the internet ..... can any one help ,,, i tried many times .. bit i failed to do it
[18:49] <Dr_willis> tibrox,  but a user can login to the console?
[18:49] <tibrox> Dr_willis, with su?
[18:49] <tibrox> login?
[18:49] <tibrox> hang on
[18:49] <Dr_willis> tibrox,  no... at the LOGIN: prompt
[18:49] <rensvind_> How come system settings details say I use VESA:Turks while I have the proprietary fglrx driver installed and the module is loaded?
[18:50] <tibrox> Dr_willis, I get a gui login screen
[18:50] <Dr_willis> tibrox,  go to the CONSOLE - alt-ctrl-f1 and see if your user can login there.
[18:50] <tibrox> dropping to root is fail too
[18:50] <tibrox> ah so
[18:50]  * Dr_willis is not sure what 'dropping to root' means. ;)
[18:50] <tibrox> awesomess.  I'm in
[18:51] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[18:51] <]grimm[> I upgraded to 12.04 from 11.10 on couple of machines but seem to be unable to run gnome-fallback without unity also launching.  The problem seems to have fixed itself on one machine but not the other.  Is there a way to keep unity from launching when I'm in fallback mode?
[18:51] <kelvinella> Dr_willis, i successfully convert them using avidemux
[18:51] <antnash> Hey guys. I'm running speaker-test -c 2 -r 48000 -D hw:0,7 which points to my NVIDIA GT520 hdmi audio and I'm getting left channel fine, but nothing from the right. Anyone know why this might be?
[18:51] <Dr_willis> tibrox,  so what happens when your user tries to login  to X from the lightdm screen?
[18:51] <tibrox> Dr_willis, I have to remove /tmp/.X0-lock
[18:52] <Dr_willis> tibrox,  you can remiove that via the console ;) not sure  why you need to.. but if you say so...
[18:53] <tibrox> Dr_willis, yeah I tried.  Seems that there's an instance of X running already :S
[18:53] <windbuntu> is thier an effects option in 12.04, one that can be turned off or turned down to make 12.05 run faster? i am using it just as it installs by default?
[18:54] <SuperMiguel> whats the difference between ubuntu minimal install and server install??????
[18:54] <windbuntu> i typed in speed,performance, effects and many other words into the search bar and have come up with nothing?
[18:54] <DJones> !minimal | SuperMiguel
[18:55] <DJones> SuperMiguel: Thats probably the main difference - downloading packages, rather than having the majority on the install cd like the alternate cd
[18:57] <taher> i want to enable natting on my ubuntu server to allow other machiene in my LAN to connect to the internet ..... can any one help ,,, i tried many times .. bit i failed to do it
[18:58] <shaneo> hi guys how could i blacklist an indicator to now show in unity panel pithos has an icon and sound menu integration but i want to only show the sound menu option but need the indicator to load hidden or closing the application wont minimize to panel it just closes
[18:58] <Monigote> hijos de puta
[18:58] <Monigote> con amor
[18:58] <Monigote> :D
[18:58] <qak> taher: what do you use to connect to the internet? perhaps you could use your modem / router to do nat for the whole network?
[18:58] <llutz> taher: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing
[18:59] <Monigote> aaa
[18:59] <Monigote> ok
[18:59] <Monigote> ok
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[19:01] <zyxon> Hi, the background of lightdm (unity greeter) does not match my wallpaper on 12.04. Why is that so (it does change for other user accounts)?
[19:01] <trism> shaneo: look in the pithos preferences, I see an option: Show notification area icon, unchecking that should hide the indicator you don't want
[19:02] <shaneo> trism, yes but like i said doing sound will not allow me to close to the sound indicator it closes the app that why i need it to run hidden
[19:02] <shaneo> *doing so
[19:02] <shaneo> *sound menu
[19:02] <trism> shaneo: on, I see, you probably can't do that
[19:03] <rensvind_> Does ubuntu automaticly run unity3d when 3d driver is actived? I seem to run unity2d, and I think I now have 3d configured but still unity2d is running?
[19:03] <Monigote> i saw
[19:03] <Monigote> Monigote
[19:03] <JasonGriffee> I have v12.04, how do I force my laptop's resolution onto my 1080p HDTV via VGA?
[19:04] <DJones> Monigote: Do you have an Ubuntu support question? This is a support only channel and not for general chat
[19:04] <Monigote> Sapin coñeichon
[19:04] <lorddelta> JasonGriffee: I'd check that's even possible.
[19:04] <lorddelta> JasonGriffee: VGA might not be able to do 1080p
[19:05] <bennypr0fane> hello, I'm using Precise on a live usb, trying to see if I can get it to recognize my wlan chip it's broadcom 43225. the  weird thing is proprietary drivers are enabled and yet I can't make a connection
[19:05] <JasonGriffee> lorddelta, I think I did it on another computer, but I don't want to mess with xorg again.
[19:05] <lorddelta> JasonGriffee: Hmm, nvm it can: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QXGA
[19:05] <lorddelta> A hint at least
[19:05] <Monigote> your buys dogs
[19:06] <jazzkutya> how to install grub on ubuntu install when /boot is raid1?
[19:06] <bennypr0fane> http://pastebin.com/xAPWUSEf
[19:06] <bennypr0fane> this is output from lshw -C nework
[19:07] <alusion> What are some of the better surveillance options with Ubuntu ?
[19:07] <lorddelta> JasonGriffee: Anyways assuming that your monitor can support 1080p through the cable, you should just be able to open up the display properities, like in Windows...are you running nvidia?
[19:07] <JasonGriffee> lorddelta, I already have the tv, I just have to have ubuntu programed to do it.
[19:07] <bennypr0fane> oooh I forgot to paste some
[19:08] <JasonGriffee> lorddelta, no it's just the cheap intel onboard
[19:09] <Monigote> asshole
[19:09] <MonkeyDust> Monigote  language
[19:09] <llutz> !ops | Monigote
[19:09] <Monigote> hola
[19:09] <armando_> olaaaaa
[19:09] <armando_> qe taal
[19:10] <MonkeyDust> !es
[19:10] <Boohbah> llutz: was that really an emergency?
[19:11] <bennypr0fane> ok, here it is: http://pastebin.com/mmLRHAyJ it just seems to be disabled for some reason
[19:11] <llutz> Boohbah: how else do you want to get rid of that trolling idiot
[19:11] <bennypr0fane> Anyone happen to know a command for ENabling it?
[19:13] <ZaNeIuM> anyone have working sound with a Zotac itx-t-u mb (atom D525) out the hdmi?
[19:13] <rensvind_> I can not seem to get unity3d running, only unity2d.   why?
[19:14] <neokya> Hello everyone. I ran into trouble after installing from source. How can I uninstall? PS. I am still new to Linux world
[19:14] <nombalion> iiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[19:14] <motz> I rebooted and all the files of my user have disappeared. How can it be?
[19:15] <zyxon> hi, is there a way to disable the automatic home folder encryption?
[19:16] <Dr_willis> neokya,  normally you can do a 'sudo make uninstall' in the soruce directory.. if not.. well you figure what it installed where and remove it..
[19:16] <Kyle__> neokya: Some sources have an uninstall target.  As root, cd into the source directory you ran make install from.  There, run make uninstall.  If it works, you're good.
[19:16] <gnubie> bennypr0fane>  did you look in system setting > additional hardware drivers?
[19:16] <Kyle__> Dr_willis: I hear an echo a few seconds before I say things.
[19:17] <bennypr0fane> gnubie yes. add. drivers enabled
[19:18] <n-iCe>  I'm having trouble with Ubuntu not correctly detecting a keyboard that I login remotely with
[19:19] <n-iCe> is there a way to do some kind of detection after the login from the command line?
[19:19] <n-iCe>  i.e. some xkb sort of reconfigure? This is a bluetooth tablet keyboard
[19:20] <Kyle__> n-iCe: You need to look up how to add the keyboard for all users/the whole system.  It's probably just configured for your user.  How you do it, I don't know.
[19:22] <imdea> Hi, i am running ubuntu 10.04, is it possible to upgrade it to 12.04? and if so, how?
[19:23] <raphaelle> hello @ll, I'm upgrading to Lubuntu  11.04 to 12.04 but it seems to run  in the background : no screen message, only a 70-80% "precise" process seen on task monitor. How can I control what's happening there ?
[19:23] <neokya> Hello everyone. I ran into trouble after installing from source. How can I uninstall? PS. I am still new to Linux world
[19:23] <ruli> raphaelle: how did you upgrade
[19:23] <ruli> neokya: how did you install
[19:24] <n-iCe> Kyle__: that is a good thought, you wouldn't happen to know where per user keyboard "definitions" reside in Ubuntu by any chance?  non-xorg.conf I mean....
[19:24] <MonkeyDust> neokya  what did you install from source and why, if you're new?
[19:24] <raphaelle> ruli, I just pushed the button on my upgrade monitor...
[19:25] <neokya> I needed nodejs 0.6.15 which is not on ubuntu
[19:25] <ruli> raphaelle: you might look for the lubuntu channel cause i dont know what youre talking about
[19:25] <haxxpop> do you know how to find the task a package live in ?
[19:26] <neokya> MonkeyDust: So, I had to use source. Sorry, I didn't have choice.
[19:26] <raphaelle> ruli: sorry, I meant update-notifier
[19:26] <Monigote> hola
[19:26] <neokya> ruli: I used github repo
[19:26] <MonkeyDust> !info nodejs
[19:27] <DJones> imdea: Instructions to upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04 are detailed here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PreciseUpgrades#Upgrade_from_11.10_to_12.04_LTS_and_10.04_LTS_to_12.04_LTS
[19:27] <Kyle__> n-iCe: I'm guessing there's a directory in /etc for the bluetooth stack.  Look for something that says blue bt etc.  Not sure which stack ubuntu is using now..  The config files usually have a bunch of data in the comments.  May even tell you right in there what to do.
[19:27] <ruli> neokya: that doesnt tell me anything but if you did make install somewhere in there, try make uninstall and hope the developer imlemented it. if that doesnt work, you can make install with 'checkinstall' the program to create a .deb from source, then dpkg -r the .deb
[19:27] <neokya> I took help from this guide to install nodejs on ubuntu http://howtonode.org/how-to-install-nodejs
[19:27] <tibrox> Dr_willis,  Kyle__ : thanks for your help!  I managed to login and purge nvidia and delete ~/.Xauthority (there was a lock).  Everything is sweetness and my wife won't divorce me anymore :)
[19:28] <ruli> raphaelle: so you didnt get a guy anywhere in the entire process?
[19:28] <cordoval> rats my ubuntu is burning
[19:28] <cordoval> lorddelta: aux
[19:28] <raphaelle> ruli : nope,   " upgrade monitor" disapeared once I clicked on "upgrade to 12.04", and now "precise" is running in the background, that's all
[19:28] <cordoval> i have tried many things it shows up i have 295.40
[19:28] <paul_> just moved from 11.10 to 12.4 like Rhythmbox but when I insert an audio CD Banshee launches and dies. How to associate associate audio CD with RB?
[19:28] <cordoval> version of nvidia driver
[19:28] <cordoval> man this is crap
[19:29] <cordoval> sorry i hardly troll but this is exacerbating everything i don't know how to solve this
[19:29] <cordoval> should i just go and buy an air can and flush it?
[19:29] <cordoval> i mean even for no graphics stuff this is hell
[19:30] <cordoval> tell me please ubuntu can't be that bad
[19:30] <ruli> raphaelle: thats really strange. you're screwed basically.strace it and see if it's reading files or something. otherwise tail -f /var/log/dpkg.log and see if it's installing packages or something. otherwise look around the screen for your disappeared window
[19:30] <lorddelta> cordoval: I won't advise against that...why is this laptop old or something? Btw, those drivers look out of date...
[19:30] <lorddelta> Mine are 295.49
[19:31] <cordoval> this  is an asus g73jw
[19:31] <cordoval> it is supposed to be cutting edge
[19:31] <freshone0> how can one go into casual chat rooms
[19:31] <ruli> cordoval: if you're using the 'stable' nvidia driver from ubuntu, don't. it's crap. update nvidia it's broken for older cards
[19:31] <ruli> freshone0: type /list
[19:31] <LjL> don't type /list
[19:31] <LjL> !alis
[19:31] <raphaelle> ruli: my sceen is not that big :-) I 'll check at your suggestions
[19:31] <cordoval> crap i have nvidia geoforce gtx 440M with 1.5 GB RAM
[19:32] <lorddelta> cordoval: try apt-get install nvidia-current-updates
[19:32] <sunbird> any evolution users here? my evolution will not delete messages. every time i try, it freezes. i've tried purging and reinstalling, and creating new account, same problem. didn't have this issue on same hardware and same email server under 10.04.
[19:32] <sunbird> this is 12.04amd64
[19:32] <cordoval> lorddelta: i have tried that one should i purge with some command first?
[19:32] <freshone0> type /list
[19:32] <cordoval> apt-get install nvidia-current-updates ?
[19:32] <freshone0> ruli pls help i am new to this
[19:32] <cordoval> Unpacking nvidia-current-updates (from .../nvidia-current-updates_295.40-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb) ...
[19:33] <neokya> Seems only solution is make uninstall
[19:33] <cordoval> 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 17 not upgraded.
[19:33] <freshone0> alis
[19:33] <LjL> freshone0: try #defocus or #ubuntu-offtopic for "casual" chatroom. /join #either
[19:33] <cordoval> lorddelta: please aux
[19:33] <ruli> freshone0: what irc program are you using
[19:33] <cordoval> help me here please i will give you all the info
[19:33] <cordoval> lorddelta: before i go to buy canned air
[19:33] <freshone0> how does one see that?
[19:34] <freshone0> #defocus
[19:34] <LjL> freshone0: /join #defocus
[19:34] <Ravenslock> Hi, is there an over-write mode in the Nano Text editor like the Replace mode in Vim?
[19:34] <lorddelta> cordoval: aux? sorry, not sure what you mean. Let me know how the install goes. I'm not sure about the versioning on the dpkg...
[19:35] <freshone0> hi
[19:35] <cordoval> lorddelta: https://gist.github.com/9397a23e033feef2e58d
[19:35] <freshone0> join / #ubuntu- offtopic
[19:35] <cordoval> DEBUG:Failure to match ASUSTeK Computer Inc. with Dell Inc.
[19:35] <LjL> freshone0: uh, seriously, it's not hard
[19:35] <LjL> reh/join #name
[19:36] <LjL> freshone0: /join #name
[19:36] <lorddelta> cordoval: don't worry
[19:36] <lorddelta> cordoval: happened to me too
[19:36] <cordoval> lorddelta: ok please tell me how to fix this
[19:36] <freshone0> thanks
[19:36] <freshone0> done
[19:36] <cordoval> should i go for the canned air? i guess no you have a better solution
[19:37] <raphaelle> ruli : this is my strace -p upon precise : pretty busy indeed, with a lot of "no such file or directory", see http://pastebin.com/ABmyft0a
[19:37] <lorddelta> cordoval: sadly I don't believe I have a better solution for you at the moment...sorry.
[19:37] <lorddelta> before you go for the canned air I'd suggest logging out and in one last time to see if it fixed anything.
[19:38] <fl1bbl3> anyone know if svn 1.7.5 package is imminent?
[19:38] <ruli> raphaelle: the no such file or directory spam is normal. you're more looking for whether it's a constant flow of spam. check the dpkg.log next
[19:38] <gnubie> bennypr0fane>  I can take you through what i needed to do to get my bcm4311 working. I think it will work for you also.
[19:40] <cgtdk> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1981885 Does anyone know anything about the issue described in this post?
[19:40] <cordoval> lorddelta: i mean after that install i should reboot right?
[19:40] <cordoval> what version should i have
[19:40] <zach2825> yes
[19:40] <cordoval> and what version do you have again? lorddelta
[19:41] <cordoval> zach2825:
[19:41] <cordoval> ?
[19:41] <lorddelta> cordoval: 295.49, linux-x86_64
[19:41] <lorddelta> And yes.
[19:41] <zach2825> sorry i ment to type that in the messanger
[19:41] <cordoval> is there anything that can ensure me i have the right version of the driver? oh hmm and i have 295.49
[19:41] <lorddelta> After that package installs, you should restart
[19:41] <cordoval> sorry you have
[19:41] <cordoval> oh ok
[19:41] <cordoval> rebooting
[19:41] <FloodBot1> cordoval: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:41] <monohedron> does anybody use the cube in compiz/
[19:41] <monohedron> ?
[19:42] <trism> fl1bbl3: probably not, bug 949143 , still not in debian yet
[19:42] <ruli> raphaelle: anyway if it's a busy process you can either wait it out and monitor the strace spam or you can probably more or less safely kill it and do dpkg --configure -a and apt-get -f install to try to finish the upgrade process if that's what it's apaprently secretly trying to do
[19:42] <vlt> Hello. How can I edit the Icons on the launcher bar for the guet account?
[19:42] <fl1bbl3> thanks trism
[19:43] <vlt> And how to set the audio device used in the guest account?
[19:43] <ruli> raphaelle: frankly ubuntu devs don't suprise me any more, a hidden gui might be expected behavior nowadays
[19:43] <raphaelle> ruli : I would say nothing happens, time here is 21.43 and nothing happens since 07.05... see http://pastebin.com/5k4Wkzr0
[19:44] <bennypr0fane> gnubie thanks, does it involve block sta modules and reinstalling legacy drivers?
[19:44] <quiiskoper_eSSp> monigote
[19:44] <quiiskoper_eSSp> monigotw
[19:44] <bennypr0fane> it appears my firmware is missing
[19:45] <raphaelle> ruli, I'll do what you said  (kill it and do dpkg --configure -a and apt-get -f install)
[19:45] <ruli> raphaelle: stopped on libc-bin...well ......just pray you didnt get a libc upgrade failure like i did it's a huge pain in the ass to fix
[19:45] <whiskers75> what is the command to look up your own IP?
[19:45] <vlt> whiskers75: ifconfig
[19:46] <whiskers75> thanks!
[19:46] <krababbel> whiskers75: ip addr would be the new version
[19:46] <gnubie> bennypr0fane>  in synaptic uncheck bcmwl-kernal source, check b43-fwcutter and firmware-b43- installer then run apply.  then sudo edit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf and un blacklist bcm 43xx. and reboot.
[19:47] <whiskers75> from the kernel sources (git), when i compile, i get an error when building modules, what is wrong?
[19:47] <cordoval> lorddelta: back
[19:47] <cordoval> i get a popup warning on nvidia server settings
[19:47] <lorddelta> cordoval: any better?
[19:48] <Dan39> anyone know if the KDE/kwin over NX problems have been fixed in 12.04? im runnin the old packages from 11.10, but it is becoming pain installing other stuff since apt-get keeps yelling at my because of broken dependency crap
[19:48] <cordoval> it looks like now i don't have driver
[19:48] <kinenkaya> anyone running ubuntu in hyper-v who can tell me where i might start troubleshooting authorization scope errors?
[19:48] <cordoval> you do not appear to be using NVIDIA X driver, please edit your X configuration file and restart the X server
[19:49] <zvacet> I  reinstalled 12.04 and now autohide doesn´ work it doesn´t hide when I start app
[19:49] <cordoval> lorddelta: do you know how to solve this new error?
[19:49] <bennypr0fane> gnubie by synaptic you mean Ub.Software Center?
[19:49] <lorddelta> pastebin the output of dpkg -l 'nvidia-*'
[19:49] <zach2825> TIP!!! hey for anyone out there changing stuff in there /etc/ directory there is a program you should install its called etckeeper
[19:49] <cordoval> You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver.  Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server.
[19:50] <zvacet> bennypr0fane:  he means synaptic install it from terminal sudo apt-get install synaptic
[19:50] <zach2825> etckeeper creates a "bazzar" repo in you etc dir and does versioning for you changes
[19:50] <ruli> raphaelle: so what happend after killing etc
[19:50] <cordoval> lorddelta: https://gist.github.com/590f9dbac133072dc3a6
[19:50] <whiskers75> bump
[19:50] <bennypr0fane> zach2825 what kind of a tip is that supposed to be
[19:50] <gnubie> bennypr0fane>  Let me look in the sc I did it from synaptic which I installed from the center
[19:51] <eutheria> i am thinking about getting an alienware laptop, it seems to come with this killer wireless-n 1103 wifi card, has anyone had one of these working before?
[19:51] <numb95> !ff
[19:51] <numb95> ff!
[19:51] <bennypr0fane> oooff it's super noisy in here
[19:51] <zach2825> i use it alot.. but, i see that people in here are changing settings alot and if they "biff" something then they can just undo what they did easily with this program
[19:51] <gnubie> bennypr0fane>  Looks like you can do it from the software center
[19:51] <bennypr0fane> gnubie the sc?
[19:51] <ruli> Dan39: apt-get -f install
[19:51] <lorddelta> cordoval: looks like you're missing a couple packages...
[19:51] <lorddelta> hang on
[19:52] <gnubie> bennypr0fane>  search bcm in the software center
[19:52] <raphaelle> ruli : my PC breathes now ! CPU calmed down and so did the ventilation. dpkg did not propose anything so I switched to apt-get upgrade that seems to work fine at the moment.
[19:52] <Dan39> ruli: yea but it wanted to change the packages ive installed to fix KDE problems
[19:52] <bennypr0fane> gnubie under "installed", right?
[19:52] <cordoval> lorddelta: ok i am here take your time, btw what are your temperatures now? just want to see also what is possible ?
[19:53] <cordoval> in C
[19:53] <Dan39> thats not the problem
[19:53] <lorddelta> I'm running 55,50 on average, I run a 9600 GM
[19:53] <Dan39> the problem is kwin crashing when run over NX
[19:53] <ruli> raphaelle: also do apt-get dist-upgrade to be sure. the ubuntu devs arent the brightest crayons in the box, the missing gui seems like it was probably a use case they didnt account for when there is an upgrade probably of some kind
[19:53] <Dan39> in 12.04
[19:53] <ruli> Dan39: turn off compositing
[19:53] <Dan39> hmmm
[19:54] <ImTheDude> darn i just moved to a new apt and i cant get my wireless printer to work
[19:54] <Dan39> thats a good idea ruli
[19:54] <Dan39> ruli: you know if that actually works?
[19:54] <ruli> *upgrade problem of some kind
[19:54] <ruli> Dan39: nope
[19:54] <whiskers75> im running a Toshiba Portege 4000, and it randomly freezes. i expect it to be ACPI because when this is off it works Ok
[19:54] <cordoval> lorddelta: that is higher grade than my video card in my lappy right?
[19:54] <lorddelta> cordoval: I don't believe so...
[19:54] <raphaelle> ruli : do you mean after apt-get upgrade ? or should I stop apt-get upgrade to do apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[19:55] <ruli> Dan39: if you're getting dependency problems though you're probably going to want to fix those foremost. i know that disabling compositing fixes display problems over xdmcp though
[19:55] <lorddelta> 9600M GS sorry
[19:55] <gnubie> bennypr0fane> when you start the ubuntu software center, doing a search for bcm should list install and not installed bcm plgs
[19:55] <Dan39> i know what the dependency problems are, i created them by manually installed a bunch of packages from 11.10
[19:56] <Dan39> so that i could use KDE over NX
[19:56] <vlt> Hello. Can I install a package with apt or aptitude without running the program? (In a chroot environment, for example.)
[19:56] <Dan39> hold on ill link you
[19:56] <ruli> raphaelle: before or after. doesn't really matter. better to do it before, but worse case scenario is you just upgrade oneeric or whatever, then re-upgrade precise. since you're already in apt-get upgrade you'll basically have to finish anyway
[19:56] <Dan39> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libx11/+bug/985202
[19:57] <Dan39> if you read the comments i installed the packages that one guy recomended to stop the crashing
[19:57] <whiskers75> vlt: er... why?
[19:58] <bennypr0fane> gnubie do you know if I need to reboot before I can use the firmware?
[19:59] <raphaelle> thanks ruli, I suppose I'm getting the right distro anyway : "Réception de : 750 http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise/universe lxinput i386 0.3.1-1ubuntu1 [63,2 kB]"
[19:59] <ruli> Dan39: well #10 says he did fresh kubuntu 12.04 install and still has the bug so answer is probably know. i'd still disable compositing and check kde's monitor settings, make sure it outputs only to one monitor, not cloning. that can crash it.
[19:59] <ruli> *not
[20:00] <lorddelta> cordoval: try apt-get install nvida-173-modaliases nvidia-96-modaliases nvidia
[20:00] <whiskers75> vlt: if you have the .deb file you can use dpkg -i (package-file)
[20:00] <ruli> raphaelle: ok. at least something's happening
[20:00] <cgtdk> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1981885 Does anyone know anything about the issue described in this post?
[20:00] <lorddelta> cordoval: if neither of those work try the nvidia-185-modaliases
[20:00] <cordoval> Package nvidia-96-modaliases is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[20:00] <cordoval> ok
[20:00] <Orpheon> Can someone help me with this?
[20:00] <Orpheon> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1981797
[20:01] <cordoval> E: Unable to locate package nvida-185-modaliases
[20:01] <gnubie> bennypr0fane>  you have uninstalled the one and installed the two I said to do?
[20:01] <cordoval> i have 173
[20:01] <cordoval> and 96
[20:01] <whiskers75> Orpheon: please just paste the question here - dont want to switch apps to check it out
[20:02] <Orpheon> ok
[20:02] <Orpheon> I've used wine for a very long time, and one of the things I've used it for was for a small game made in game maker which I like very much.
[20:02] <Orpheon> Today, an update came through, wanting to update opengl. I accepted, and restarted the system as was required.
[20:02] <Orpheon> Wine is now incapable of running that game (Which is 2d, btw). I tried running it in the console, with this output:http://pastebin.com/ckAS7G7z
[20:02] <Orpheon> (The missing sound server is normal and on purpose. That is not the problem)
[20:02] <Orpheon> I first went to the IRC, here is what I got from there:http://pastebin.com/uRd6q7G0
[20:02] <Orpheon> OpenGL native works fine, my own programs in it had no problem running. I then found this: http://www.noobslab.com/2011/09/nvid...0-oneiric.html
[20:02] <Orpheon> and followed it, because for some reason I didn't have nvidia-current.
[20:02] <Orpheon> Didn't fix it.
[20:02] <FloodBot1> Orpheon: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:02] <lorddelta> cordoval: nvidia-185-modaliases
[20:02] <bennypr0fane> gnubie not yet, but if I have to reboot before it takes effect, it doesn't make sense, bc I'm on a non-persistent live system
[20:03] <DJones> Orpheon: I don't use wine, but have you asked that question in ##winehq, thats the main support channel for wine queries, you may get some help in there as well
[20:03] <Orpheon> yes
[20:03] <Orpheon> I have asked it there too
[20:03] <Orpheon> with little success
[20:03] <Kyle__> Orpheon: Wine links against openGL.  For awhile (don't know if it's still true) you couldn't even compile it from source without having it link to OpenGL.
[20:03] <raphaelle> thanks a lot ruli for all your help, I think I'm on my way now thanks to you :-)
[20:03] <raven> how to "grab" everything i cut out of an audio file with audacity with ctrl-x? any kind of ram-dump possible?
[20:03] <lorddelta> cordoval: I don't actually have 185 installed, but i have 173 and 96 both installed, and my graphics work fine.
[20:03] <ruli> raphaelle: no problem i'll be expecting my check in the mail
[20:03] <vlt> whiskers75: I have an Ubuntu system in a chroot directory and want to install software there but without messing up my host system.
[20:03] <Creeture> Anybody else noticed that chmod on lucid is broken? i.e. chmod 0700 won't remove the setgid bit on a directory?
[20:03] <cordoval> lorddelta: https://gist.github.com/590f9dbac133072dc3a6
[20:03] <Orpheon> Kyle_: And that means?
[20:04] <Orpheon> It should be able to recognize OpenGL, no?
[20:04] <bennypr0fane> gnubie I'm afraid I'll need to create a new usb-key with persistence first and then try again
[20:04] <Kyle__> Orpheon: If wine doesn't like (or can't talk to) your openGL library, it won't run :(
[20:04] <gnubie> bennypr0fane>  humm, not sure logging out and back in might work, but you don't want to do this all the time.
[20:04] <vlt> whiskers75: Should I use apt’s download option and then run `dpkg -i` on every downloaded .deb?
[20:04] <mongo> cordoval: what filesystem are you using?
[20:04] <raven> how to "grab" everything i cut out of an audio file with audacity with ctrl-x? any kind of ram-dump possible?
[20:04] <cordoval> mongo what do you mean?
[20:04] <Orpheon> Kyle__: Any idea how to make it like my opengl?
[20:05] <Kyle__> Orpheon: I once had a render farm running xvfb + wine + a win32 renderer, just to get it to work.
[20:05] <Kyle__> Orpheon: DId you install wine via apt, or compile yourself?
[20:05] <Orpheon> apt
[20:05] <Orpheon> wine and opengl both used to work
[20:05] <Orpheon> I just updated opengl via update manager
[20:05] <mongo> cordoval: iirc suid requires an explicit removal of set gui/gid
[20:05] <whiskers75> vlt: no you can use apt fron chroot : just cp /etc/sources.list /chrootplace/etc/ and do the same for /etc/hosts and /etc/resolv.conf and run!
[20:05] <mongo> cordoval: try g-s
[20:05] <cordoval> mongo: and what does that mean?
[20:06] <Kyle__> Orpheon: wait for an update then, or compile a wine from source :( Sadly that may be the only option, but folks in #wine or winehq or whatever it's called now may have a different solution.
[20:06] <cordoval> No command 'g-s' found, did you mean:
[20:06] <gnubie> bennypr0fane> make yourself a copy of the steps I outlined. You may need them at some point.
[20:06] <mongo> cordoval: chmod g-s filename
[20:06] <mongo> as an argument to chmod
[20:06] <vlt> whiskers75: That doesn’t work. `aptitude install openssh-server` in the chroot tries to actually run the sshd :(
[20:06] <Orpheon> Kyle__: Ok
[20:06] <bennypr0fane> gnubie I did, but something's not clear to me:
[20:06] <Orpheon> thank you
[20:07] <Kyle__> Orpheon: If you compile from source, give it a suffix (./configure --help will tell you how), so you can immediately identifiy which is your version and which is ubuntu's.  Also, keep the whole source/build tree, so you can make uninstall if you want to get rid of it.
[20:07] <gnubie> bennypr0fane> what?
[20:07] <bennypr0fane> gnubie: "then sudo edit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf and un blacklist bcm 43xx. and reboot"
[20:07] <Kyle__> Orpheon: Good luck :)
[20:07] <cordoval> mongo: it does not output anything
[20:07] <whiskers75> vlt: oh then yes do use apts download feature and install manually, then.
[20:07] <bennypr0fane> what do you mean by "un blacklist"
[20:07] <mongo> cordoval: from the man page "you can set (but  not  clear)  the bits with a numeric mode."
[20:07] <mongo> cordoval: do an ls and see if it removed the set gid
[20:07] <lorddelta> mongo, cordoval, are we still talking about his nvidia card?
[20:08] <bennypr0fane> gnubie is that the actual command in term, or do I need to edit the file?
[20:08] <cordoval> I don't know why he asked me for that filesystem
[20:08] <cordoval> I am telling here that i have a problem with my nvidia driver version
[20:08] <mongo> err sorry scroll missed I ment to talk to Creeture
[20:08] <cordoval> grr
[20:08] <mongo> err scroll + tab nick complete
[20:08] <gnubie> bennypr0fane>right now  from a terminal do cat /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[20:08] <whiskers75> vlt: and are you SURE you are actually chrooting...?
[20:09] <Creeture> mongo: I just now read that in the docs. That's COMPLETELY broken by design. Doesn't match the rest of the *nix world.
[20:09] <bennypr0fane> gnubie one thing I've tried before is: sudo echo "blacklist b43" > /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf   , I got "permission denied"
[20:09] <raven> how to "grab" everything i cut out of an audio file with audacity with ctrl-x? any kind of ram-dump possible?
[20:09] <mongo> Creeture: well set uid/gid is bad anyway
[20:09] <cordoval> raul782: hi
[20:09] <cordoval> hey i am still struggling with ubuntu ultra high temperatures
[20:09] <Creeture> mongo: Thus the desire to clear it with an explicit  mode.
[20:09] <whiskers75> raven: paste into a new file
[20:10] <cordoval> raul782: lorddelta is helping me because he had the same trouble
[20:10] <gnubie> bennypr0fane>do you see blacklist bcm43xx  when you did the cat?
[20:10] <raven> whiskers75 no it must be automatically because it would take two hours at least to paste this parts
[20:11] <raul782> cordoval: hi, sounds great
[20:11] <rensvind_> Kyle__, for future references,  my problem with not being able to add workspaces was due to running unity2d. Seems i got 2d by default on installation and when i installed 3d drivers it did not use the unity3d, I had to manually choose unity3d from the login-screen
[20:11] <cordoval> raul782: do you know anything about this heating problems? nvidia drivers messed up?
[20:11] <L3top> vlt you should be jailed... apt-get install WILL install to the chrooted environment, though you will want to loop mount dev, and mount proc, devpts, etc
[20:11] <AK4> what?
[20:11] <ubunanalyst> what do people think about canonical switching to openstack? http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/canonical-switches-to-openstack-for-ubuntu-linux-cloud/8875
[20:11] <bennypr0fane> gnubie yes: http://pastebin.com/6jEUHCL5
[20:12] <cordoval> raul782: he mentioned the regular average temps is 50 C and not 70-100C
[20:12] <whiskers75> i never needed to loop mount when i installed stuff
[20:12] <ruli> Dan39: either way you probably want to get back to dependency fixed system. it's generally a bad idea to mix distribution packages for just this reason
[20:12] <bennypr0fane> gnubie line 35
[20:12] <L3top> depends on what you install to be sure.
[20:12] <Creeture> ubunanalyst: Don't care either way.
[20:12] <mongo> ubunanalyst: openstack is a pain when all the important packackges are in universe and without upstart scripts
[20:12] <AK4> whats the topic?
[20:12] <whiskers75> AK4: try /topic
[20:12] <Dan39> ruli: yes im aware :\
[20:13] <gnubie> bennypr0fane>what you want to do as sudo is put a # in front blacklist bcm43xx line.  Plus the pkg changes I listed
[20:13] <ruli> Dan39: oh well welcome to ubuntu. you're problems from now on will only increase :)
[20:14] <Stroobach> evening everyone. i have an acer aspire 5336 and when i reboot or boot my backlight is set to 0. i have  a temp fix (sudo setpci -s 00:2.0 F4.B=5F) but it starts to get anoying to use a flashlight everytime.. any fixes? (ubuntu 12.04 x64)
[20:14] <bennypr0fane> gnubie does that mean I need to edit a file, or enter I enter a commend in xterm?
[20:14] <mongo> Creeture: looking through some old maillist archives it appears it was ment to prevent chmod breakign acls
[20:14] <Stroobach> and btw. new to ubuntu
[20:14] <vlt> whiskers75: Yes, sure, I’m chrooting.
[20:14] <bennypr0fane> gnubie I don't know how edit a file "as sudo" > new concept to me
[20:14] <Dan39> ruli: hahaha
[20:14] <Creeture> mongo: You and I must be reading the same stuff.
[20:15] <Dan39> i dont put ubuntu on my servers, dont worry :P
[20:15] <cordoval> :'(
[20:15] <Dan39> this is for friend
[20:15] <DJones> Stroobach: Sounds like a similar problem to me on a HP laptop, this was how I got round it http://askubuntu.com/questions/79983/screen-brightness-resets-to-minimum-after-every-reboot
[20:15] <lorddelta> cordoval: can you send me/pastbin your xorg.conf?
[20:15] <mongo> Creeture: i want people to move to acls :)
[20:15]  * Dan39 coughs *archlinux or debian*
[20:15] <gnubie> bennypr0fane>try sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.conf/blacklist.conf
[20:15] <lorddelta> cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:15] <bennypr0fane> gnubie also I can't find firmware-b43-installer in repos
[20:16] <whiskers75> Gigantic BUMP!!
[20:16] <Stroobach> @DJones i will try that
[20:16] <vlt> L3top: I know that all files will only be stored to the chroot “file system” but something in the `aptitude install` routine tries to stop and (re)start currently running processes (on the host system).
[20:16] <DJones> Stroobach: It worked for me on 12.04
[20:16] <vlt> whiskers75: I tried `aptitude download` but then all dependencies are missing. Is there a way to let apt resolve these?
[20:16] <Creeture> mongo: Except for the fact that I use BSD variants, Linux, and Solaris regularly. There's something to be said about keeping to standards.
[20:16] <mongo> bennypr0fane: make sure you have the multiverse enabled
[20:16] <cordoval> lorddelta: https://gist.github.com/590f9dbac133072dc3a6
[20:17] <whiskers75> vlt: use apt-get and show the error
[20:17] <cordoval> lorddelta: can i pm some info?
[20:17] <whiskers75> vlt: man apt-get for help
[20:17] <L3top> vlt what processes? I mean... if you are dealing with mysql some tricks have to be done etc.
[20:17] <lorddelta> cordoval: sure
[20:17] <gnubie> bennypr0fane> hum it shows up in my ubuntu software center, 4 one down the list when I search for bcm
[20:17] <bennypr0fane> gnubie blacklist.conf is empty   term says: (gedit:8399): GLib-GIO-WARNING **: Missing callback called fullpath = /root/.local/share/recently-used.xbel
[20:18] <vlt> L3top: Any processes. Like lightdm, apache, …
[20:18] <L3top> vlt again... you will want to mount none -t sysfs /path/to/chroot/sys; mount none -t proc /path/to/chroot/proc
[20:19] <L3top> prior to chroot
[20:19] <whiskers75> bump; Running Ubuntu on a Toshiba Portege 4000 has random freezes - i suspect acpi. help please!!
[20:19] <raven> whiskers75 no it must be automatically because it would take two hours at least to paste this parts
[20:19] <gnubie> bennypr0fane> from a terminal do cat /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf did not show anything
[20:19] <usuario> crvurnjurmc4uog
[20:19] <whiskers75> raven: oh then dont know what to do
[20:20] <L3top> I also mount -o bind /dev /path/to/chroot/dev; mount none -t devpts /path/to/chroot/dev/pts
[20:20] <L3top> then chroot... then apt-get and unless you are dealing with mysql or something oddball, I doubt you will have issues
[20:20] <mongo> lxc or vserver containers are easier than chroot
[20:20] <gnubie> bennypr0fane>try sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf,  I had this wrong I fixed the line.
[20:21] <Stroobach> another question.,. there are no aditional drivers to display.. any fixes for that (acer aspire 5336)
[20:22] <L3top> there are no additional drivers for you Stroobach. You got it all.
[20:22] <vlt> L3top: I’ll try that, thanks.
[20:22] <bennypr0fane> gnubie ok done editing blacklist.conf
[20:22] <fraterm> chrome and the built in proxy configuration widget for 12.04 are again failing me.
[20:23] <bennypr0fane> gnubie but how do i make sure I got multiverse repo enabled in sC?
[20:23] <Stroobach> that explains alot thx l3top
[20:23] <bennypr0fane> can see an option for managing repos
[20:23] <Dan39> i put packages on hold earlier, so now to fix just: echo "package install" | dpkg --set-selections?
[20:23] <bennypr0fane> gnubie is it in a separate utility?
[20:23] <L3top> np
[20:23]  * L3top is in too many support chats atm lol
[20:24] <gnubie> bennypr0fane> with the software center as your active window you should find an edit menu on the main task bar and it should have soucres as an selection
[20:25] <Dan39> yep that works :) nvm
[20:26] <raven> whiskers75 no it must be automatically because it would take two hours at least to paste this parts
[20:26] <Windrunner> i installed Diablo 3 on ubuntu 12.04 but it has bug and need it to run under older version will installing OS alongside help will i have rights to execute software installed on 12.04
[20:26] <vlt> L3top: No difference. I mounted sysfs and prov to the chroot, chrooted and ran `apt-get install apache2`. Now I got a running apache process on the system o_O.
[20:26] <vlt> L3top: How to prevent this?
[20:27] <qak> anyone know what pkg(s) allow Ubuntu music players (mpd, rhythmbox) to decode m4a, which isn't available (afaik) under Debian?
[20:27] <vlt> I only want it to _install_, not actually run anything.
[20:27] <vlt> L3top: s/prov/proc
[20:28] <gnubie> bennypr0fane> with the software center as your active window you should find an edit menu on the main task bar and it should have sources as an selection
[20:29] <L3top> vlt: can you please paste the output? And stopping apache2 on the host might be helpful.
[20:30] <qak> ldd `which rhythmbox ` | wc -l   ..... 107
[20:30] <bennypr0fane> gnubie multiverse wasn't enabled. I checked the box now, but that pkg is still not in the list
[20:30] <bennypr0fane> gnubie do i need to do anything else to make the repo available?
[20:30] <gnubie> bennypr0fane> let me check my source list
[20:31] <bennypr0fane> gnubie I mean will it be available if I just check the lil' checkbox?
[20:32] <arooni-mobile> generally accepted opinion on using ext4 versus ext3 on a ubuntu production server enviornment?
[20:33] <gnubie> bennypr0fane> my sources have all on the ubuntu tab checked  and on the other tab I have Concanical patners and independent checked
[20:33] <Guest1522> ;
[20:34] <mongo> arooni-mobile: ext4 boots a heck of a lot faster, I see no reason to use ext3 these days
[20:35] <Guest54652> alguien de chile?
[20:37] <vlt> L3top: http://paste.ubuntu.com/993058/   What is stopping apache2 on the host helpful for?
[20:37] <gnubie> bennypr0fane> you need to run sudo apt-get update if you change the sources
[20:39] <bennypr0fane> gnubie: ha I found the s***er
[20:39] <best__> cvb
[20:39] <bennypr0fane> gnubie apt-get update was somehow blocked because I had a duplicate in the sources
[20:41] <L3top> that looks like it installed to me vlt.
[20:42] <bennypr0fane> gnubie still a duplicate it's weird: W: Duplicate sources.list entry cdrom://Ubuntu 12.04 LTS _Precise Pangolin_ - Release amd64 (20120425)/ precise/main i386 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/Ubuntu%2012.04%20LTS%20%5fPrecise%20Pangolin%5f%20-%20Release%20amd64%20(20120425)_dists_precise_main_binary-i386_Packages)
[20:42] <gnubie> bennypr0fane> did not know it would let you set a duplicate source
[20:42] <vlt> L3top: Have you seen line 54?
[20:43] <gnubie> bennypr0fane> uncheck the cdrom as a source?
[20:43] <fraterm> whats a good app to clean up / manage /etc/apt/sources.list?
[20:43] <vlt> L3top: I don’t want it to run an apache process. Just install.
[20:43] <fraterm> I have to clear up some errors with index files failing to download
[20:44] <fraterm> and an odd dialog box with multilingual text that seems to be related to adobe acroread fonts.
[20:45] <Suse99> welcome
[20:45] <Suse99> i 'am italein
[20:45] <L3top> vlt that sock failure happens because apache is already running on the host (which is what stopping it would help with, though they would both compete and I expect you would want to background the process if you wanted it run... which you dont). That installed, it simply couldnt bind to the sock. There is nothing to fix there.
[20:45] <Rescatux> do not know how to use the utility grub / install
[20:46] <L3top> exit the chroot environment and however you plan to normally run it... should have appache vlt
[20:46] <L3top> vlt: unmount all that stuff you mounted btw
[20:46] <raven> whiskers75 no it must be automatically because it would take two hours at least to paste this parts
[20:48] <Rescatux> I recorded the image of Rescatux, I am about to use it and when I run I get rescapp and not to make application to run grub-install
[20:48] <vlt> L3top: There was no apache running on the host before. That sock failure might propably come from an empty /dev directory …
[20:51] <wormmd> Need a quick solution: ssh'd to a server, typed 'clear', hit enter, got the error 'rxvt-unicode-256color': unknown terminal type. Never had to deal with this before, and Google has been thus far unhelpful. Thoughts?
[20:51] <bennypr0fane> gnubie I installed firmware-b43-installer via apt-get. It's still not in the list in SC though. Removed installed fwcutter and removed bcmwl-kernel-source
[20:53] <Aliv3> alright so I have ubuntu 11.04 and xp. I can't remember if it is wubi install or not, I installed a long time ago. anyways, xp won't boot.
[20:53] <gnubie> bennypr0fane> the cutter should stay installed I think.
[20:53] <ThePendulum> Is it possible at all to install Windows next to Ubuntu?
[20:53] <Aliv3> how can I fix xp from inside of ubuntu or am I sol
[20:53] <ThePendulum> When Ubuntu is already installed
[20:53] <bennypr0fane> wireless is still unavailable
[20:53] <bennypr0fane> gnubie now what do i do
[20:54] <bennypr0fane> gnubie remember i can't reboot
[20:54] <bennypr0fane> will these changes lead to anything without reboot?
[20:54] <ThePendulum> bennypr0fane: Why can't you reboot?
[20:54] <gnubie> bennypr0fane> it may need to be rebooted which means it own't work for you.
[20:55] <bennypr0fane> ThePendulum I can, but I'm on a live system, can't save any changes
[20:55] <wormmd> ThePendulum: you can install Windows on top of Ubuntu and then go back in live and fix grub.
[20:55] <wormmd> Aliv3: you can install Windows on top of Ubuntu and then go back in live and fix grub.
[20:55] <ThePendulum> wormmd: That sounds like a 'may or may not work' operation
[20:55] <gnubie> bennypr0fane> the fw-cutter should stay installed I think.
[20:55] <ThePendulum> wormmd: I could just install Windows over Ubuntu completely, but Ubuntu said it couldn't find any OS when I tried
[20:55] <ThePendulum> (tried to install it alongside Windows)
[20:56] <bennypr0fane> gnubie just installed, wasn't planning on removing it
[20:56] <wormmd> ThePendulum: I'm not saying it doesn't take a little configuration, but grub-install should take care of most of it for you.
[20:56] <L3top> vlt: I thought you bound /dev to chroot env as I put in here... sorry
[20:56] <bennypr0fane> gnubie but do I need to run it, or will it do things on its own?
[20:56] <L3top> vlt I am afk
[20:56] <vlt> L3top: I did now. And /dev/pts.
[20:57] <gnubie> bennypr0fane> are you wanting to use this usb stick just to boot into ubuntu on this laptop only?
[20:57] <vlt> L3top: Same result. Do you expect binding /dev to prevent the apache process from running?
[20:58] <bennypr0fane> yes, this laptop only
[20:58] <bennypr0fane> but i can create another live usb with persistence so i  can save changes
[20:59] <L3top> vlt: you are trying to fix something that isnt broken. Apache is installed... and not running... that was the goal yes?
[20:59] <L3top> again... I have to go afk
[20:59] <L3top> kids
[20:59] <Aliv3> wormmd: no cd. only a windows 7 cd and I don't think that this computer will support it ( bit in honesty I do have a tiny 7 that might work, but eh )
[21:00] <gnubie> bennypr0fane> in that case I boot into the install CD with the usb plugged in and do a rgular install on the usb stick and tel the install the grub goes onto the mbr on the stick.
[21:01] <vlt> L3top: It _is_ running.
[21:01] <gnubie> bennypr0fane> the laptop will boot from usb ports?
[21:01] <bennypr0fane> gnubie: ?  I have no CD, the system is running from the usb
[21:02] <vlt> Does anyone (else) know how to install something like the apache2 package without running the daemon?
[21:02] <gnubie> bennypr0fane>ahh,  guess I have run out of suggestions.
[21:02] <bennypr0fane> can't do anything to the usb
[21:02] <gnubie> bennypr0fane>later, need to go now
[21:02] <bennypr0fane> gnubie thanks anyway
[21:03] <bennypr0fane> gnubie me too
[21:03] <zastaph> when will git-core be updated to 1.7.10 from current 1.7.5.4 you think? weeks, months?
[21:03] <bennypr0fane> have a good nite!
[21:03] <gnubie> bennypr0fane welcome
[21:03] <MonkeyDust> vlt  apt-get download
[21:03] <vlt> MonkeyDust: That won’t download apache2 ;-)
[21:03] <L3top> vlt: unmount and kill the process... but, again, it isnt really running, that is what the sock error was about. It is installed... that is the goal is it not? If not, tell me what you are trying to do
[21:03] <VMERSINTO> does anyone know the terminal command to install teamviewer
[21:04] <cordoval> anyone has an asus g73jw with heating  problems because of nvidia driver?
[21:04] <Aliv3> can I change partition size after installation?
[21:04] <vlt> L3top: I’m trying to install (something like) apache without it being run on the host system.
[21:04] <Aliv3> can I run minecraft from here?
 does anyone know the terminal command to install teamviewer
[21:05] <Orpheon> why not synaptic?
[21:05] <llutz> vlt: you'll have to download the deb and edit the control-file
[21:05] <vlt> MonkeyDust: And `apt-get download apache2` will only download one single .deb file. No dependencies, no extracting …
[21:05] <VMERSINTO> Orpheon, i didn't know it was available through synaptic
[21:05] <Orpheon> teamviewer7
[21:05] <Orpheon> apparently
[21:05] <Orpheon> or 6
[21:05] <Orpheon> if you want that
[21:05] <VMERSINTO> Orpheon : what is it used for?
[21:06] <Orpheon> you can give an ID and a pass to someone
[21:06] <L3top> I dont think so...
[21:06] <Orpheon> and that someone can remote control your computer
[21:06] <vlt> llutz: Do you know a way to download all .deb files needed for a pkg (including dependencies)?
[21:06] <llutz> vlt: apt-get download foo
[21:06] <Orpheon> useful for servers, and for showing people how to do stuff
[21:06] <L3top> !teamviewer7
[21:06] <vlt> llutz: `apt-get download apache2` will only download one single .deb file. No dependencies, no extracting …
[21:06] <L3top> !info teamviewer7
[21:06] <VMERSINTO> Orpheon : I see
[21:06] <llutz> vlt: nonsense
[21:06] <Orpheon> well
[21:06]  * vlt tries.
 !info teamviewer7
 Package teamviewer7 does not exist in precise
[21:06] <Orpheon> it exists under that name in synaptic
[21:07] <llutz> vlt: even if it does, after installation you run "apt-get -f install" to fix missing depends
[21:07] <subthalamus> if u needed a way to check that php5-curl was installed and what version on ANY linux distro, where would u look?
[21:07] <IdleOne> subthalamus: in ubuntu apt-cache policy package-name
[21:08] <MonkeyDust> !tab| Orpheon
[21:08] <IdleOne> subthalamus: other distros, you may want to try their support channels or ##linux
[21:08] <subthalamus> IdleOne: apt-cache doesn't exist on non debian distros
[21:08] <Orpheon> MonkeyDust: That's useful
[21:08] <IdleOne> subthalamus: right, but this is #ubuntu.
[21:08] <vlt> llutz: Yes, it does only download one.  `dpkg -i apa….deb` complains about missings dependencies. How to preceed now?
[21:08] <Orpheon> thank you
[21:08] <llutz> vlt: you'll have to download the deb and edit the control-file
[21:09] <llutz> vlt: theres an example in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=856815
[21:09] <subthalamus> IdleOne: ok, my apt-cache is broken
[21:09] <subthalamus> it spits weird characters allover my screen when I run the command
[21:10] <IdleOne> subthalamus: then you have larger issues then finding if php5 is installed
[21:10] <subthalamus> IdleOne: suggest you let somebody else answer if you dont intend to help
[21:11] <L3top> vlt: sudo apt-get build-dep --download-only apache2
[21:11] <IdleOne> subthalamus: I am helping by telling you to ask in the channel for the distro you are using. You implied your not running Ubuntu.
[21:11] <IdleOne> you're*
[21:11] <MonkeyDust> subthalamus  in a terminal, what's the outcome of lsb-release -sd ?
[21:11] <MonkeyDust> subthalamus  in a terminal, what's the outcome of lsb_release -sd ?
[21:13] <subthalamus> MonkeyDust: lsb_release: error: No arguments are permitted
[21:13] <IdleOne> subthalamus: what distro are you running?
[21:13] <MonkeyDust> subthalamus  then its not ubuntu
[21:14] <subthalamus> now you're both getting on my nerves
[21:14] <subthalamus> Linux s0 3.2.0-24-generic #37-Ubuntu SMP Wed Apr 25 08:43:52 UTC 2012 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[21:14] <IdleOne> subthalamus: This channel supports only Ubuntu and official flavours of Ubuntu. NOTHING else
[21:14] <brasileiro> oi
[21:14] <brasileiro> oi
[21:15] <subthalamus> who in here uses linux?
[21:15] <MonkeyDust> subthalamus  that s0 shows it's not really ubuntu
[21:15] <brasileiro> oi
[21:15] <subthalamus> thats the hostname genius
[21:15] <MonkeyDust> !pt
[21:16] <Aliv3> whoops got distracted
[21:16] <IdleOne> subthalamus: I am going to tell you this one last time and if you ask one more question I am going to ban you. This channel supports only Ubuntu, also watch the attitude.
[21:16] <brasileiro> oi
[21:16] <IdleOne> !br | brasileiro
[21:16] <subthalamus> IdleOne: this IS ubuntu, thats not the point though
[21:16] <IdleOne> subthalamus: you're lying
[21:16] <subthalamus> gimme a break
[21:17] <brasileiro-br> eai blz?
[21:17] <elky> subthalamus, look up phpinfo(), or ask in ##php. Meanwhile, stop wasting our time.
[21:17] <brasileiro-br> eai
[21:17] <Kyle__> IdleOne: That kindof looks like he posted his uname -a instead lsb_release -sd
[21:18] <cordoval> thanks lorddelta i am sorry you couldn't help me more, anyone else can help me please?
[21:18] <elky> Kyle__, he did, because he knows he's asking in the wrong place.
[21:18] <IdleOne> Kyle__: it wasn't a Ubuntu uname afaik
[21:18] <cordoval> lorddelta: could you kind of summarize my problem here so that other people can see it?
[21:18] <IdleOne> anyway, moving on.
[21:18] <Kyle__> IdleOne: Looks awfully similar to mine, but then again he wasn't exactly being helpful himself.
[21:19] <cordoval> perhaps someone has already done this, as you tell me you consider that the problem is now on X11 xorg but the drivers don't show up correctly setup on the gui, not sure what to do now
[21:19] <brasileiro> oi
[21:19] <elky> Kyle__, the kernel version is usually the cincher.
[21:19] <cordoval> brasileiro: help
[21:19] <IdleOne> brasileiro: please stop.
[21:19] <brasileiro> tudo bem galera?
[21:19] <IdleOne> !br | brasileiro
[21:19] <MonkeyDust> brasileiro  please type /join #ubuntu-br
[21:20] <lorddelta> cordoval, sure anyways cordoval seems to have a problem with setting up his X server to work with his nvidia drivers; they seem to work, and are configured correctly as far as I can tell; however he's not setup to use his nvidia drivers with the X server, causing his cpus to overheat (presumably they are attempting to run the graphics operations by themselves)
[21:21] <Kyle__> I doughnut suppose anyone here has Matlab on their 'buntu box, and has upgraded to 12.04, so they could tell me if it works?
[21:21] <Orpheon> does anyone here happen to know stuff about the opengl spaces?
[21:21]  * Kyle__ sadly needs to fork over the $$ for it.
[21:21] <Kyle__> Orpheon: Opengl spaces?  You mean like the geometry of the world you're dealing with?
[21:21] <lorddelta> If anyone could help him with them, he's running the latest nvidia drivers, and he's already got stringent cpu governers applied.
[21:21] <Orpheon> I have a problem rendering skybox
[21:22] <Orpheon> it gets rotated around wrongly
[21:22] <lorddelta> cordoval: Good luck, cya round.
[21:22] <Orpheon> when this is applied:
[21:22] <Orpheon>     glRotatef(xrot, 0.0, 1.0, 0.0);
[21:22] <Orpheon>     glRotatef(yrot, -direction.z, 0.0, direction.x);
[21:22] <Orpheon> although the rest of the world works fine
[21:22] <Kyle__> Orpheon: Ah.  /join #opengl They'll be able to help there.
[21:22] <Orpheon> I tried
[21:22] <Orpheon> ##OpenGL :Cannot send to channel
[21:22] <Orpheon> :I
[21:23] <auronandace> !register | Orpheon
[21:23] <Kyle__> Orpheon: You could also try changing your texture to be the right rotation (cheating but hey ;)
[21:23] <Orpheon> no texture involved
[21:23] <testeee> f
[21:23] <Orpheon> that's procedural, but I didn't even start on that
[21:23] <Orpheon> talking just of the polygons
[21:24] <Kyle__> Orpheon: Oh.  Are you rendering the inside of your polygon? Necessary if you're using a poly that's outwardly oriented.
[21:24] <Orpheon> https://gist.github.com/2721663
[21:24] <Orpheon> from line 23
[21:24] <Kyle__> Orpheon: If all your quads or triangles are right-handed, you need to render the inside of them.
[21:25] <Orpheon> aren't polygons rendered from both sides anyways?
[21:25] <Kyle__> Orpheon: Nope.  Defaults are to only render the outside iirc.
[21:25] <Orpheon> heh
[21:25] <Orpheon> well
[21:25] <Orpheon> it draws SOMETHING
[21:26] <Kyle__> Orpheon: And it moves all strange and mind-bending right?
[21:26] <Orpheon> yes
[21:26] <Orpheon> ok
[21:26] <Orpheon> howtofix
[21:26] <Orpheon> how do I render the inside?
[21:27] <Kyle__> Orpheon: this is way OT, so we should expect to be chastised soon, however...
[21:27] <Kyle__> Orpheon: If you're not going to move in and out of the skybox, change the orientation of your triangles.
[21:28] <ThePendulum> Damned... the compiz bar is stuck
[21:28] <vlt> YEEEEEES!
[21:28] <wiggmpk> Installed 12.04 (Desktop) on a 2nd harddrive (/dev/sdb) and It destroyed my MBR (/dev/sda) which now doesnt let me boot Windows 7 or Ubuntu 12.04. After using boot-repair, I am able to boot Ubuntu (/dev/sdb) but os-prober and grub-install will not and have not found my Windows 7 Install.. Not Happy.. plz help
[21:28] <vlt> L3top, llutz: I solved it.
[21:29] <cordoval> thanks lorddelta i hope someone can help me, :'(
[21:29] <vlt> L3top, llutz: I just needed to create the executable file /usr/sbin/policy-rc.d containing “exit 101”.
[21:30] <llutz> vlt: as in /usr/share/doc/sysv-rc/README.policy-rc.d.gz described
[21:30] <vlt> That’s all. Now while installing any package I get “invoke-rc.d: policy-rc.d denied execution of start.”
[21:30] <const_> \list
[21:31] <Mischinka> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[21:31] <Mischinka> What is this?
[21:31] <const_> sudo
[21:31] <const_> use the sudo
[21:31] <cordoval> anyway i can hire ubuntu expert to work on my problem
[21:31] <cordoval> ?
[21:32] <const_> sudo apt-get
[21:32] <Mischinka> same, i also have this error:  E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[21:33] <ThePendulum> cordoval: What's your problem?
[21:33] <cordoval> ThePendulum: my problem is with nvidia drivers, i cannot get the latest version installed
[21:33] <cordoval> or lorddelta says it is there and even downloads
[21:34] <cordoval> lorddelta checked my files and saw that for him it is an Xorg configuration problem
[21:34] <ThePendulum> cordoval: What makes you assume the latest driver is not installed?
[21:34] <ThePendulum> cordoval: As in, what (performance) issues have occurred?
[21:34] <cordoval> that on the gui nvidia driver server settings i see the previous version not like his version
[21:34] <DarwinSurvivor> Mischinka: what do you get if you run "sudo ps aux | grep dpkg" and "sudo ps aux | grep apt"?
[21:34] <cordoval> ThePendulum: performance basically is temp ranges on 80-100C
[21:34] <cordoval> for both GPU and CPU
[21:35] <ThePendulum> The CPU as well? 80-100 is quite hot for a CPU
[21:35] <cordoval> yes
[21:35] <ThePendulum> It will last, but it will die earlier than a CPU running at no more than 60 degrees C
[21:35] <belgianguy> can one manage 3 monitors in 12.04?
[21:35] <ThePendulum> belgianguy: Yes, if your graphics card can handle it
[21:35] <cordoval> ThePendulum: yes swhat to do ?
[21:36] <belgianguy> vga is taken
[21:36] <belgianguy> but I have something else free
[21:36] <belgianguy> not hdmi, but something else
[21:36] <belgianguy> that can convert to it
[21:36] <wormmd> exit
[21:37] <wormmd> Exit
[21:38] <imdea> Hi, I just tried to upgrade my ubuntu system from 10.04 to 12.04 but this is what i received in my console:  http://pastebin.com/6tjSpuKN
[21:38] <imdea> any ideas?
[21:39] <belgianguy> DisplayPort
[21:39] <wiggmpk> Installed 12.04 (Desktop) on a 2nd harddrive (/dev/sdb) and It destroyed my MBR (/dev/sda) which now doesnt let me boot Windows 7 or Ubuntu 12.04. After using boot-repair, I am able to boot Ubuntu (/dev/sdb) but os-prober and grub-install will not and have not found my Windows 7 Install.. Not Happy.. plz help
[21:40] <belgianguy> wiggmpk: first backup whatever you deem worthy
[21:40] <belgianguy> and then perhaps consider TestDisk
[21:41] <wiggmpk> Why is there NO option in the Desktop LiveCD version to leave the MBR untouched?
[21:41] <belgianguy> TestDisk can repair the MBR afaik
[21:41] <GeoGeek> Anybody know why my desktop shows sometimes even though screen is locked?  On 12.04 but this happened on 11.10 too. There is a question on AskUbuntu but nobody has tried to answer it yet.
[21:42] <wiggmpk> I want a solution that doesnt involve another piece of software (much like boot-repair that caused more damage than helped)
[21:42] <cancer> how to install ibm E72 Drivers?
[21:42] <cancer> and yes from where?
[21:44] <wiggmpk> why does "sudo os-prober" NOT find my Windows 7 disk/partitions?
[21:44] <dlentz> what is an ibm e72?
[21:44] <cordoval> are there logs for this chat?
[21:44] <belgianguy> wiggmpk: never use a tool if you don't know what it'll do
[21:44] <cordoval> anyone expert in X11 Xorg here?
[21:45] <belgianguy> I can attest that TestDisk saved someone's pc
[21:45] <belgianguy> and that he even sent beer from Austria to Belgium for it
[21:45] <belgianguy> so it has its merits, so it seems
[21:45] <wiggmpk> belgianguy thanks for the advice.. but heinsight already set in on this situation. so, if you have something constructive, I'd love to hear it.. But your comments are just a waste of energy if they arent helpful
[21:46] <wiggmpk> and I am familiar with boot-repair.. Ubuntu 12.04 Desktop LiveCD is the culprut.. not boot-repair..
[21:47] <belgianguy> try a _scan_ with testdisk, don't modify anything, if it can restore your mbr, wouldn't that solve part of your problem?
[21:47] <belgianguy> that's all I have to say
[21:47] <belgianguy> good luck
[21:47] <wiggmpk> belgianguy so you know a guy/gal, who knows a guy/gal, who had a problem... no.. I want a reliable linux solution that can be done in the operating system.. not using another peice of software
[21:47] <belgianguy> no, I'm a guy, who used it and saved his pc with it
[21:47] <TomatoKetchup> wiggmpk, no need to be rude
[21:47] <belgianguy> gave it as advice to someone with a broken pc
[21:48] <belgianguy> he was so happy he sent some beer over from Austria to my place
[21:48] <belgianguy> but you're on your own now
[21:48] <wiggmpk> TomatoKetchup dont confuse rude with frustration
[21:48] <belgianguy> I'm not here to frustrate people
[21:48] <Silversong> Hey everyone.
[21:48] <wiggmpk> belgianguy check your verage.. the way you wrote the sentence wasnt person.. you know it saved "someones pc"
[21:49] <tyler_d> well hello there channel
[21:49] <belgianguy> wiggmpk: whatever man, pour gasoline over it and get a new one
[21:49] <wiggmpk> I am looking for a "built in" solution to this problem
[21:49] <belgianguy> problem solved for me
[21:49] <TomatoKetchup> wiggmpk, nice excuse
[21:50] <tyler_d> I have a 32 bit 11.04 system that I am trying to get to "sniff" for wireless networks using aireplay, I am now to the point however that my wireless networks are "greyed out" and thus I cannot connect to them.
[21:50] <wiggmpk> this is the first time ive used the Desktop LiveCD, it doesnt prompt anywhere during the install where I wanted it to boot from..
[21:50] <wiggmpk> reinstalling from the LiveCD same thing (only it doesnt resuse or delete previous swap partitions, its just makes more)
[21:51] <TomatoKetchup> wiggmpk, have you tried using the windows 7 repair install?
[21:51] <TomatoKetchup> wiggmpk, then boot-repairing from the live cd see if that helps?
[21:51] <wiggmpk> why would I do that?
[21:52] <TomatoKetchup> wiggmpk, just a suggestion because grub has had 0 problems detecting my windows 7 install
[21:52] <belgianguy> yeah, I have 2 windows 7 images on 2 different hdds
[21:52] <belgianguy> and grub finds them all
[21:52] <wiggmpk> well grub didnt mind my win7 install
[21:53] <wiggmpk> and was running fine when it was 11.10
[21:53] <belgianguy> check its config files?
[21:53] <TomatoKetchup> wiggmpk, which is why I'm thinking there is something wrong with it.
[21:53] <belgianguy> perhaps some uuids got switched?
[21:53] <TomatoKetchup> wiggmpk, I'd read over this thread - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1855687
[21:53] <wiggmpk> yeah, the MBR was destroyed during install
[21:53] <belgianguy> TestDisk can restore the MBR
[21:54] <belgianguy> but by all means
[21:54] <belgianguy> feel free to ignore it
[21:54] <goddard> can some one help me with this issue? http://askubuntu.com/questions/120640/unity-toolbar-icons-disappear-on-boot
[21:54] <TomatoKetchup> personally, I'd use windows cd to fix my windows mbr, then try reinstalling grub, if it persists then there's something else wrong.  That's just how I'd proceed.
[21:54] <st2> MonkeyDust: This is subthalamus. The reason your command didn't work is because of the ? at the end. lsb_release -sd returns Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. You guys should really be less closed minded.
[21:54] <wiggmpk> I'd rather not use another piece of software.. boot-repair was putting Grub in the incorrect (however their default) location
[21:54] <st2> IdleOne: Subthalamus here, the answer to the question you couldn't be bothered to answer was "php5 --re curl"
[21:55] <TomatoKetchup> wiggmpk, sorry if you already posted, but what is your partition/drive setup like?
[21:56] <belgianguy> tools and magic fixes only work in a very little amount of cases
[21:56] <goddard> anyone ever had their ubuntu unity icons disappear?
[21:56] <zach2825> wiggmpk, im sorry im late on this but have you tried using grub from the terminal to rebuld ot?
[21:56] <belgianguy> and even then should only attempted if they are well researched and a backup exists
[21:56] <TomatoKetchup> zach2825, yeah I think he has, it's not finding his windows install
[21:56] <zach2825> goddard, maybe you have to restart nautilus press alt+f2 and type r and press enter..
[21:57] <wiggmpk> I'm not trying to be difficult.. actually I'm getting more difficulty from you guys than I execpted. But I want a manual workaround, not a tool or some program, where I am at the whym of the programmers. http://paste.ubuntu.com/993195/
[21:57] <zach2825> TomatoKetchup, ok thank you you can use ubcd11 only way i was ever able to fix that..
[21:57] <Viking667> I have an Ubuntu install, (11.10), and am running Gnome Classic. How do I make the panels hide away, or how do I change the size of the icons?
[21:57] <Viking667> I've already looked in gconf-editor, and the options simply aren't there.
[21:57] <TomatoKetchup> wiggmpk, the link I posted gave your instructions for fixing it yourself
[21:58] <tyler_d> I need a hand enabling wpa2 wireless encryption (was working before) please?
[21:58] <wiggmpk> zach2825 grub will install fine everything /dev/sda & /dev/sdb, however os-prober doesnt recognize WIndows install
[21:59] <wiggmpk> TomatoKetchup im not running scripts from forums on my machine
[21:59] <psych> I'm trying to install ubuntu minimal in virtual box and when it attempts to download packages it brings up a warning saying it couldn't download dpkg 1.16.1. I've tried numerous mirrors. The packages it fails on aren't always the same either. Anyone know whats up?
[21:59] <zach2825> wiggmpk, i see only thing i ever had luck getting windows in my grub was ubcd11
[21:59] <wiggmpk> TomatoKetchup: apparently you didnt read it when I said I dont want any software
[21:59] <Viking667> and here I am, I don't have any trouble with grub discovering BOTH windows partitions, AND the recovery partition. Sigh.
[22:00] <belgianguy> wiggmpk: feel free to edit files at infinitum, things like the MBR are hard to restore without extra software
[22:00] <zach2825> wiggmpk, can you use gparted to make sure your windows partition is still there?
[22:00] <belgianguy> perhaps you should give it a rest for now
[22:00] <psych> ntpdate also fails
[22:00] <ldiamond> Is there a way to launch an application on a specific workspace (and even specific monitor also)? I want to always launch a set of applications on each of my workspace when I login.
[22:00] <Viking667> psych: can it get out to the internet at large? pinging www.google.com is a good indicator
[22:00] <ldiamond> btw, I'm on 12.04, I'm using gnome panel w/ Metacity
[22:00] <wiggmpk> zach2825: i linked the results of fdisk bro
[22:01] <Viking667> heh. You're not the only one who wants that. Can't do it with metacity.
[22:01] <psych> Viking667, it can. It successfully goes through a-d when downloading. Just fails usually at dpkg
[22:01] <TomatoKetchup> wiggmpk, frankly I don't like your attitude
[22:01] <Viking667> I was using Kwm, or enlightenment for that.
[22:01] <zach2825> wiggmpk, lol im gonna step out of this one.. im too late..
[22:01] <tesmar_> metacity?
[22:01] <wiggmpk> TomatoKetchup: dualy noted
[22:01] <tesmar_> I use classic gnome
[22:01] <Viking667> psych: try this:  apt-get update
[22:01] <spartan2276> How can I get my Wacom tablet to work?
[22:01] <Viking667> psych: then "apt-get upgrade"
[22:01] <psych> Viking667, I can't. It's an ubuntu minimal installation
[22:02] <tesmar_> the gnome 2.X series is great for usability
[22:02] <spartan2276> Do I need to add myself to the Udev Group?
[22:02] <Viking667> psych: huh? so no apt?
[22:02] <psych> Viking667, it hasn't even installed yet. This is just trying to get that far.
[22:02] <Viking667> that's weird.
[22:02] <psych> No nothing right now.
[22:02] <ldiamond> I can't believe it's impossible to do that...
[22:02] <Viking667> Are you still in the installer??
[22:02] <psych> Viking667, I am. It's a text based installer.
[22:02] <Viking667> ldiamond: impossible for what? metacity?
[22:02] <ldiamond> You can always start an application and then wait for it to load before you call wmctrl...
[22:03] <Viking667> psych: hm.
[22:03] <ldiamond> Viking667, yea
[22:03] <psych> That's what I thought.
[22:03] <spartan2276> If yes, How can I add my user to Udev?
[22:03] <Viking667> ldiamond: that's separate from metacity though.
[22:03] <ldiamond> Viking667, I don't mind, as long as the result is the same.
[22:03] <ldiamond> Viking667, I'm just noting that I'm using metacity.
[22:03] <psych> Viking667, it's usually dpkg where it fails, but it just did the same thing on xz-utils. It looks like it gets through some of them though.
[22:03] <Viking667> I've never had the "pleasure" of using wmctrl
[22:03] <Aliv3> oh yeah, got distracted I remember what I wanted to know now, how can I repartition without loosing everything
[22:04] <psych> And it says it successfully set up the network
[22:04] <Viking667> psych: right. Ping www.google.com for me?
[22:04] <Viking667> (from inside the virtual machine)
[22:04] <psych> www.google.com is alive!
[22:04] <Viking667> hm. Right.
[22:05] <Viking667> choose another mirror, perhaps?
[22:05] <umadbor> ddos coming
[22:05] <hormigas> Anyone know about encFS? I've seen a lot of talk about it lately for use in conjuction with dropbox, but it looks to me like the software hasn't been updated in 2 years.
[22:05] <psych> Viking667, thats its response from the busybox shell or something. I've chosen Bahamas, Canada, US, and something in Europe I think
[22:05] <Viking667> huh? and it does the same thing in every case?
[22:05] <TomatoKetchup> umadbor, coming where?
[22:06] <psych> Viking667, yeah. That's why I think it's my machine.
[22:06] <umadbor> coming to www.facebook.com
[22:06] <Viking667> weird. or your virtual machine, at least.
[22:06] <umadbor> watch facebook lol
[22:06] <umadbor> about to go down apperantly.
[22:06] <Viking667> anyhow, I need to depart. Bai...
[22:06] <TomatoKetchup> Ah.
[22:06] <tyler_d> how do you determine which module relates to your wireless card
[22:06] <Biblioclasta> psych, are you using nat as network adapter?
[22:07] <psych> Biblioclasta, I've no idea. I never changed whatever virtual box's default was. I'll check.
[22:07] <vlt> Hello. Is one difference between apt and aptitude that apt will only install dependencies wuhile aptitude always installs all recommended packages?
[22:07] <vlt> *while
[22:07] <psych> Biblioclasta, it appears I am:
[22:07] <psych> Adapter 1:
[22:07] <psych> Intel PRO/1000 MT Desktop (NAT)
[22:08] <escott> vlt, that is configurable, but per the defaults yes
[22:08] <psych> I can download the installer components though
[22:08] <goddard> zach2825: it happens almost every time i reboot
[22:08] <Kyle__> I don't suppose anyone knows of a minimal ipp daemon for ubuntu server?  I have no interest in installing avahi hpijs or samba just to print an existing ipp printer.
[22:09] <Silversong> jw how often should I apt-get update (for precise)?
[22:09] <goddard> zach2825: sounds like that would only be a temp fix
[22:09] <surt> I'm terribly sorry if this is the wrong place to ask, but I'm trying to stream video/audio via ssh, but my pc always use different IP's when connecting to my router. Does anyone know of a way to have a computer have it's own...domain?? So I don't have to have separate configurations for 10.1.1.2 and 3 and 4 etc etc etc
[22:09] <Biblioclasta> psych, try set the adapter to bridged adapter
[22:09] <escott> Kyle__, cups should do ipp
[22:10] <Biblioclasta> psych, and setup the network again in the installer
[22:10] <vlt> Can I exclude certain recommended packages from being installed by aptitude?
[22:10] <Kyle__> escott: Yes, but installing it requires all of avahi, hplip and a ton of other packages that I don't want.
[22:11] <cordoval> lorddelta: ping
[22:11] <psych> Biblioclasta, I will. Thanks for the idea.
[22:11] <cordoval> now temps are 74C and 53C latter for GPU
[22:11] <cordoval> but still alarming 74C
[22:11] <Kyle__> escott: All those things are useful if not neccesary (like the poppler utils) if your printer is local, but if you're printing to another cups server or a well behavied ipp printer, you don't need it.
[22:11] <cordoval> lorddelta: oh and the version is 295.53
[22:11] <cordoval> is that the version that you have got!????
[22:12] <zach2825> goddard, it could possibly be a profile conflict.. try to create a new user name and log into that account..
[22:12] <luvchunk> hello
[22:12] <zach2825> goddard, have you tried that?
[22:12] <goddard> zach2825: nope
[22:13] <zach2825> i've had a similar issue in ubuntu 10.04 when i was using that.. and the new user fixed it i don't know what the issue was thou
[22:13] <luvchunk> Hi can somebody help me please? :)
[22:13] <CAPITANO> Ciao a tutti!!!
[22:14] <Dan39> ruli: how to shut compositing off? i dont think i can in this version of KDE
[22:14] <belgianguy> luvchunk: don't ask to ask, just ask
[22:14] <ruli> Dan39: maybe alt+shift+f9 or f12 i dont remember default shortcut. ask in #kde if it doesn't work
[22:15] <ruli> Dan39: otherwise it's in 3d desktop effects in systemsettings to completely disable
[22:16] <luvchunk> ok cheers im trying to install ubuntu on my pc but it keeps saying multiple active partitions reboot and select proper boot device
[22:17] <goddard> zach2825: nope still doesn't work
[22:17] <goddard> zach2825: good idea though
[22:17] <escott> luvchunk, boot the livecd, then use gparted to remove the "bootable" flag from the partitions
[22:18] <zach2825> goddard, im stuck lol good luck thou
[22:18] <wormmd> When is it appropriate to sudo -s versus sudo <command>?
[22:18] <zach2825> workcjk, when you have many commands to run..
[22:18] <zach2825> but then leave the root asap..
[22:18] <luvchunk> im using the live usb key and it just goes straight to that screen?
[22:19] <pfifo> !info gnomebaker
[22:19] <wormmd> zach2825: I was just curious about the implications of uid/gid with commands run with sudo -s.
[22:19] <surt> !info dns
[22:19] <pfifo> there used to be a gnomebaker package where can I get this software?
[22:19] <escott> luvchunk, how did you make this usb?
[22:19] <zach2825> workcjk, good question.. sorry i was bad with my answer.
[22:20] <luvchunk> on my laptop
[22:20] <wormmd> zach2825: no worries, you did make a good point about dropping out of root asap :)
[22:20] <surt> Can anyone help me with ssh connections and LAN DNSes? I'm inept in networking...
[22:20] <wormmd> pfifo: can you specify older repos in sources.list to have access to it?
[22:20] <luvchunk> think the program was called lilo
[22:21] <wormmd> pfifo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11933907#post11933907
[22:21] <goddard> how can i log a user out from the admin account?
[22:21] <pfifo> wormmd, maybe, id just as soon boot 10.04 though
[22:21] <wormmd> pfifo: yuck, why? ;)
[22:22] <Jordan_U> luvchunk: I think you mean "LiLi" :)
[22:22] <Fat-Thing> how can i upgrade nmap using terminal?
[22:22] <luvchunk> yes i did sorry
[22:22] <pfifo> wormmd, cause i have it on 10.04
[22:22] <wormmd> pfifo: I think that link just tells you add a ppa with the gnomebaker packages from natty
[22:22] <escott> Fat-Thing, sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade;
[22:22] <wormmd> pfifo: you mean you have 10.04 already installed?
[22:23] <DarwinSurvivor> Fat-Thing: could you be more specific? Do you want to *only* upgrade nmap, upgrade nmap beyond the repo's version, or just upgrade it with everything else?
[22:23] <pfifo> wormmd, no i have a 10.04 livecd
[22:23] <wormmd> pfifo: I assumed you mean downgrading to 10.04 :-|
[22:23] <Fat-Thing> yes sir DarwinSurvivor only nmap app
[22:23] <wormmd> pfifo: ah, like snagging the package from the live cd. Just add the ppa.
[22:23] <Jordan_U> luvchunk: Does this USB drive have more than one partition?
[22:24] <pfifo> wormmd, no boot 10.04, burn my audio cd and then boot back to precise. Hopefully this package appears soon.
[22:25] <Guest1142> gedit freezes everytime i open jquery and try to scroll or do anything like that
[22:25] <luvchunk> no just the one partition iv tried two seperate usb keys both do the same thing
[22:26] <cuddylier> Hello
[22:26] <cuddylier> How do I change the vsftp password?
[22:26] <cuddylier> What is the command?
[22:26] <Jordan_U> luvchunk: Is burning a CD an option?
[22:27] <wormmd> pfifo: launchpad didn't show it in onieric...
[22:27] <luvchunk> no sorry i have no discs at the moment
[22:27] <Jordan_U> luvchunk: Can you try booting the USB with another computer?
[22:29] <cycorp> hello all can anyone tell me how to get gnome to be my desktop when I vnc into my server
[22:29] <luvchunk> iv tried it on this computer it does the same and with both keys im baffled iv installed ubuntu a few time and never come across this before
[22:29] <Kingsy> guys, how do I play audio cd's on my ubuntu install? I am getting an error saying "a audio cd source plugin is required" from parole.. what do I need?
[22:30] <cordoval> lorddelta: solved i think
[22:30] <cordoval> latest driver indeed solved the problem
[22:30] <cordoval> man
[22:30] <zorael> What could cause my ext4 partitions getting flagged with needs_recovery everytime you mount them? fsck gets rid of the flag but it's there again after mount
[22:30] <zorael> like so: http://i.imgur.com/fTOoD.png
[22:31] <lorddelta> cordoval: oh?
[22:32] <belgianguy> luvchunk: is the USB the first boot device?
[22:32] <burrito_> gedit freezes everytime i try to do anything with jquery-1.7.2.min.js
[22:32] <grimeton> hi
[22:32] <ThePendulum> lorddelta: Encouraged him to install the drivers listed. Told him the temperatures his GPU is running at (50-80C) is just fine for the GPU he has
[22:33] <grimeton> where are the manual pages to /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf users.conf et al?
[22:33] <luvchunk> yes its first in boot order
[22:33] <wormmd> grimeton: I'm assuming man lightdm doesn't work?
[22:33] <grimeton> wormmd: you ever read the lightdm manual page?
[22:34] <tyler_d> anyone know much about wireless(wpa2)
[22:34] <wormmd> grimeton: It's pretty sparse, I just pulled it up. Doesn't look like there are man pages for the conf files.
[22:34] <tyler_d> all of my wpa2 networks are grey
[22:34] <cuddylier> Hello, How do I change my vsftp server password?
[22:34] <cuddylier> What is the command?
[22:34] <grimeton> wormmd: surprise (!) ... guess that's why i'm asking here
[22:34] <johnmetoyer27> So, I've been attempting a tri-boot between Mac OSX Lion, WinXP, and Ubuntu 12.04 on my iMac. right now when I try to log in to my Ubuntu partition from rEFIt my windows partition loads. Any ideas on what could be wrong? Grub is installed on same partition as Ubuntu
[22:35] <belgianguy> luvchunk: and can you run the 'test Ubuntu' ?
[22:36] <belgianguy> eg, not installing it
[22:36] <hattorihanzo> byobu in 12.04 is f'd up
[22:36] <MonkeyDust> hattorihanzo  what's wrong with it? i use it too
[22:36] <cuddylier> Anyone know how to change the vsftp password? What is the command? I'll not spam.
[22:36] <Kingsy> how do I play audio cd's on my ubuntu install? I am getting an error saying "a audio cd source plugin is required" from parole.. what do I need?
[22:36] <hattorihanzo> did u deal with the infinitscrolling bug?
[22:37] <grimeton> anyone else?
[22:37] <luvchunk> no i turn my computer on i get the bios screen the the multiple partitions screen no mention of linux or anything
[22:37] <MonkeyDust> hattorihanzo  if you're addressing me: no, never heard of it
[22:37] <hattorihanzo> this bug exists in more than just the logo: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/byobu/+bug/952724
[22:37] <aguitel> hattorihanzo, and what about bill
[22:37] <hattorihanzo> its breaking /usr/lib/byobu/updates_available as well
[22:37] <hattorihanzo> bill?
[22:38] <belgianguy> luvchunk: might sound dumb, but tried another USB port?
[22:38] <aguitel> you kill bill?
[22:38] <hattorihanzo> lol
[22:38] <hattorihanzo> no.. i think uma thurman did
[22:38] <hattorihanzo> i just made the steel
[22:38] <aguitel> jejejeje
[22:38] <cuddylier> Anyone know how to change the vsftp password? What is the command?
[22:38] <hattorihanzo> but still, anyone else dealing with byobu infinit scroll bug
[22:39] <luvchunk> yeah iv tried all of em when the bios checks its sees the usb mass storage device
[22:39] <belgianguy> weird, guess it doesn't find the bootable image
[22:39] <wormmd> grimeton: so you're asking where man pages are that you know don't exist? ;) /usr/share/doc/lightdm has a gzipped "example" file. There really needs to be more documentation on that...
[22:39] <belgianguy> have another pc around, luvchunk ?
[22:40] <wormmd> grimeton: that example file isn't too much help either. What are you trying to do?
[22:40] <Kingsy> how do I play audio cd's on my ubuntu install? I am getting an error saying "a audio cd source plugin is required" from parole.. what do I need?
[22:40] <belgianguy> perhaps try loading it there, if it also doesn't load there
[22:40] <grimeton> i'm trying to find a manual page that explains how the logon session is set and can be changed
[22:40] <dsadsa> does gnome-shell work well with a intel 965GM ??
[22:40] <belgianguy> it's the USB that's faulty
[22:40] <grimeton> wormmd: just using good old .xinitrc was to easy i guess?
[22:41] <dsadsa> cuz I installed it, but when I log in with "gnome" it loads gnome-classic :/
[22:41] <luvchunk> yeah i get the same thing the only thing i can think of is i used to have linux on both then put win7 on both could windows have messed something up in my bios or something?
[22:41] <MonkeyDust> Kingsy  only in parole? have you tried a different player?
[22:41] <tujohnubu> i cant seem to find advanced tap when adding new users in the latest version of ubuntu, where is it?
[22:41] <tujohnubu> tap == tab
[22:42] <cuddylier> Anyone know how to change the vsftp password, the command?
[22:42] <wormmd> grimeton: I use .xinitrc when remoting in because it works. Other than that, my last run session always comes up first when I boot up. Try setting user-session in /etc/init/lightdm.conf.
[22:42] <luvchunk> iv tried two differant usb sticks
[22:42] <tujohnubu> where can i set user privileges in new ubuntu?
[22:43] <grimeton> wormmd: so where is the man page of lightdm.conf that explains what this war is and does and which values one can use there?
[22:43] <TomatoKetchup> luvchunk, sorry if you already stated, in what OS and how did you make this usb key?
[22:43] <aaas> i set display_errors in /etc/php5/apache/php.ini but it doesn't seem to be sent in phpinfo() after server restart,  is tehre some way that my php is in
[22:43] <dsadsa> gnome-shell works with a intel 965GM ??  Cause I installed it, but when I log in with "gnome" it loads gnome-classic :/
[22:43] <dsadsa> $ glxinfo | grep render ------> direct rendering: Yes      OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 965GM x86/MMX/SSE2     GL_EXT_vertex_array_bgra, GL_NV_conditional_render
[22:43] <grimeton> s/war/var/
[22:43] <aaas> ....development mode
[22:43] <tujohnubu> anyone? user privileges?
[22:44] <luvchunk> im on windows 7 and i used lili
[22:45] <cuddylier> Anyone know how to change the vsftp password, the command?
[22:46] <grimeton> cuddylier: which backend is vsftp using for authentication?
[22:46] <belgianguy> luvchunk: perhaps try this method? http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[22:46] <cuddylier> sftp
[22:46] <cuddylier> grimeton
[22:46] <luvchunk> il have a go now and let you know thankyou
[22:46] <belgianguy> but I'd try on of your USB's on another computer first
[22:47] <grimeton> cuddylier: it uses sftp for authentication ?
[22:47] <belgianguy> just to see whether they work
[22:47] <cuddylier> Yes
[22:47] <belgianguy> np
[22:47] <cuddylier> sftp
[22:47] <grimeton> cuddylier: in which database are the users and passwords stored?
[22:47] <cuddylier> I aint that sure..
[22:47] <cuddylier> How do I tell?
[22:47] <cuddylier> I only have one user
[22:47] <grimeton> cuddylier: see, that's because you don't know the authentication backend
[22:47] <cuddylier> I use vsftp
[22:47] <grimeton> cuddylier: if not other configured it uses the auth modes defined in /etc/pam.d/vsftpd
[22:47] <cuddylier> Yeah, I know it is sftp
[22:47] <grimeton> cuddylier: which usually are the system users with a default shell
[22:47] <luvchunk> ok will do thanks
[22:48] <cuddylier> is there a command to change the password? I remember one before
[22:48] <grimeton> cuddylier: so if you want to change a password, you have to change the password of the corresponding system usert
[22:48] <grimeton> cuddylier: man passwd
[22:48] <cuddylier> Oh...
[22:48] <cuddylier> The user password..
[22:48] <grimeton> cuddylier: if the manpage even exists and has enough information to configure that ...
[22:48] <cuddylier> I get it
[22:48] <cuddylier> How do I change the user password?
[22:49] <grimeton> cuddylier: by reading the manual page of the passwd command
[22:49] <cuddylier> Do you know the command?
[22:49] <grimeton> cuddylier: you want to scroll up and read what i've written ...
[22:49] <cuddylier> I dunno what a manpage is :(
[22:50] <grimeton> cuddylier: open a terminal and write "man passwd"
[22:50] <grimeton> cuddylier: without the quotes
[22:50] <cuddylier> k
[22:51] <wormmd> grimeton: I've been digging around, I have no idea where to find what sessions are available.
[22:51] <wormmd> grimeton: I mean, it's not even my problem, and it's annoying me :)
[22:51] <tujohnubu> where can i set user privileges in new ubuntu?
[22:51] <cuddylier> Now what?
[22:51] <tujohnubu> i cant seem to find advanced tab when adding new users in the latest version of ubuntu, where is it?
[22:51] <grimeton> cuddylier: read - you have to use your eyes and read
[22:52] <cuddylier> I do.
[22:52] <TomatoKetchup> luvchunk, is your usb key 2gb or greater?
[22:52] <escott> tujohnubu, it might not exist. what do you want to do?
[22:52] <cuddylier> grimeton Would changing the user password change the mysql password?
[22:53] <grimeton> cuddylier: no
[22:53] <grimeton> cuddylier: do you have any idea what you are talking about?
[22:53] <tujohnubu> escott: so , there is no notion of privileges in the latest ubuntu?
[22:53] <cuddylier> grimeton Not really :S Which is why I came here :(
[22:53] <grimeton> cuddylier: there are tons of different passwords on the system
[22:53] <escott> tujohnubu, no there is but it may not be exposed in that part of the gui
[22:53] <cuddylier> grimeton I have the user ryan
[22:54] <grimeton> cuddylier: the main basic passwords that are used are the ones stored in the system's passwd database (usually shadow)
[22:54] <cuddylier> But, is there not a command like passwd ryan or something?
[22:54] <cuddylier> I remember using one before
[22:54] <grimeton> cuddylier: every service that tries to authenticate against that database has a file with it's executable's name (like vsftpd) in /etc/pam.d/
[22:55] <grimeton> if this service tries to auth against the system, the instructions in the file are read and processed from top to bottom
[22:55] <grimeton> if it goes wrong -> no login, else login
[22:55] <grimeton> mysql stores it's own password database
[22:55] <grimeton> it's inside the database called "mysql"
[22:55] <cuddylier> grimeton But if I change my user password will that not change the user password?
[22:55] <wormmd> grimeton: best of luck, sorry I couldn't be more help
[22:55] <grimeton> cuddylier: if you change the password via the passwd command then the users password is changed
[22:56] <grimeton> cuddylier: but that does not effect the password stored inside mysql
[22:56] <grimeton> wormmd: yeah, thanks anyway
[22:56] <cuddylier> Good, What is the actual command? The man command thing didn't really show it. I have no clue about ubuntu.
[22:56] <grimeton> cuddylier: passwd
[22:56] <grendal-prime> lost my 70-persistant-net.rules file
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> cuddylier: http://www.absolutelytech.com/2010/07/01/howto-reset-mysql-root-password-on-ubuntu-when-youve-forgotten-it/
[22:58] <caesar_> what's the best theme.. or best place to get themes?
[22:58] <tujohnubu> what the hell, why new ubuntu is so limited in setting? i'm an administrator
[22:58] <Sheldon42> caesar_, Try deviantart, or gnome-look
[22:58] <tujohnubu> is the advanced mode in new ubuntu?
[22:58] <caesar_> Sheldon42: gnome-look is down for me
[22:58] <blitzkrieg766> i want to build an ubuntu server vm, but i need a url to use wget to download it [from a freebsd machine] anybody know the url?
[22:58] <escott> tujohnubu, if you want to ask how to do things we can you tell you. if you just want to complain please find somewhere else
[22:59] <ruli> tujohnubu: developers know better. you're just a lowly user.
[22:59] <cuddylier> Thanks grimeton
[22:59] <Sheldon42> caesar_, Looks like it's up http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/gnome-look.org
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> tujohnubu: what do you want to change? I've never had any issues
[22:59] <aaas> anyone know why i have both /etc/apache2 and /etc/apache2filter directories
[22:59] <tujohnubu> escott: is there a way to swith to an old gnome interface like there  http://www.instructables.com/id/Setting-Up-Ubuntu-as-a-Kiosk-Web-Appliance/step3/Set-up-XScreensaver/
[23:00] <johnmetoyer27> So, I've been attempting a tri-boot between Mac OSX Lion, WinXP, and Ubuntu 12.04 on my iMac. right now when I try to log in to my Ubuntu partition from rEFIt my windows partition loads. Any ideas on what could be wrong? Grub is installed on same partition as Ubuntu
[23:00] <tujohnubu> ActionParsnip: i can't find user priveleges tab
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> caesar_: theming is an opinion thing, so the 'best theme' doesn't exist for any oS
[23:00] <tujohnubu> priviledges
[23:00] <escott> !notunity | tujohnubu
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> tujohnubu: you can modify users under the cog icon in the top right of the screen, if that's what you are after?
[23:00] <siganderson>  mi sapreste dire nel virtual terminal da dove viene caricata la keymap?
[23:01] <siganderson> sorry
[23:01] <tujohnubu> ActionParsnip: as in "user can access cd rom drive"
[23:01] <tujohnubu> escott: i'm on ubuntu 12
[23:01] <tujohnubu> escott: same?
[23:01] <escott> tujohnubu, yes
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> tujohnubu: users should be able to mount CDs, does it not automount?
[23:02] <MrGizmo757> is anybody else having problems with Thunderbird?  after installing updates Thunderbird can no longer connect.
[23:03] <Xirrin> I have what is probably a pretty simple /mount, external hard drive, and NFS question that I don't want to spam the channel with if someone has just a few minutes. Pretty sure its a simple request, but haven't been able to find the answers via Google so far.
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> MrGizmo757: can you ping the email server?
[23:03] <MrGizmo757> yes i can.
[23:03] <tujohnubu> ActionParsnip: http://www.instructables.com/id/Setting-Up-Ubuntu-as-a-Kiosk-Web-Appliance/step2/Create-a-Basic-User/ the image second from the right
[23:03] <forbidden404> Hi, there, guys, I need help with two things, and i REALLY need help with this, I don't want to reinstall Ubuntu all over again ):
[23:03] <MrGizmo757> i have tried multiple email accouns  Gmail and hotmail ect.  none work.
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> tujohnubu: yes, that's in the cog menu in the top right
[23:04] <Xirrin> My Thunderbird works fine. :-/
[23:04] <MrGizmo757> this all started after the latest ubuntu updates today
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> MrGizmo757: do you use a proxy for web access?
[23:04] <tujohnubu> escott: should i use gnome fallback mode?
[23:04] <escott> tujohnubu, if you would like
[23:04] <MrGizmo757> No proxy.
[23:04] <NFisher> hi all! how can i give out all numbers from 1 to 100, every one of it in a new line?
[23:04] <tujohnubu> escott: as in would you recommend this path?
[23:04] <Xirrin> MrGizmo757: I would start looking at your internet/firewall/network settings.
[23:04] <NFisher> in terminal of course
[23:05] <escott> tujohnubu, if you would like. not sure how else to answer that.
[23:05] <Xirrin> forbidden404: Whats up?
[23:05] <MrGizmo757> Thunderbird works on my windows machine.  Thunderbird also worked on My ubuntu machine until the recent updates
[23:05] <trism> NFisher: seq 1 100;
[23:05] <tujohnubu> escott: ok, i'll just try this way, and then another if i woudn't like it
[23:05] <blitzkrieg766> i'm looking for ubuntu server iso [ftp that has them] anybody know?
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> NFisher: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=4680971#post4680971
[23:05] <tujohnubu> won't*
[23:06] <NFisher> trism, thx!!
[23:06] <escott> tujohnubu, there are also gnome extensions on extensions.gnome.org
[23:06] <MrGizmo757> i tried reinstalling thunderbird and it just says unable to find settings.   so i try to set up gmail manually and it tells me my password is wrong. even though it isnt.
[23:06] <Xirrin> MrGizmo757: I can tell you that today's updates had no impact on my Thunderbird. I'm downloading new e-mail as we type.
[23:06] <forbidden404> Xirrin: I have a Hybrid Graphics, and I did everything in, and was fine, I created a script to run and turn off the discrete card, but now, I recieve an error, like bash /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch such file or diretory doesn't exist or something
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> blitzkrieg766: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/precise/release/
[23:06] <NFisher> ActionParsnip, thx, but seq is handier ;)
[23:06] <Xirrin> MrGizmo757: Have you tried using another client? Also - do you have 2-level authentication turned on for Google?
[23:07] <forbidden404> Xirrin: and the second problem is about Online Accounts, this thing just disappeared and I don't know how to put it again
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> NFisher: often more than one way to do things in bash :)
[23:07] <tujohnubu> also one thing that bothers me is that i'm not able to set my resolution to more that 1024x768 is there a way to set a higher resolution?
[23:07] <blitzkrieg766> ty parsnip!!!!
[23:07] <tujohnubu> than*
[23:07] <blitzkrieg766> so wait, does that mean the server and workstation are from the same iso?
[23:07] <Xirrin> forbidden404: Have you tried "sudo mkdir <missing folder>" and running it again?
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> tujohnubu: what GPU are you using?
[23:08] <TomatoKetchup> I'm starting to think Thunderbird is a pile of crap
[23:08] <MrGizmo757> i dont know about 2-level authentication.  i have tried other email accounts but not another client.
[23:08] <TomatoKetchup> MrGizmo757, if you don't know, I doubt you turned it on.
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> TomatoKetchup: are there any bugs reported?
[23:08] <forbidden404> Xirrin: mkdir: cannot create directory `/sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch': No such file or directory
[23:08] <Xirrin> MrGizmo757: I would try another client and see if it works. If it does then we know Thunderbird is the issue. If not then we can rule out the application and start working on the network/firewall settings.
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> forbidden404: add the -p option to the mkdir command
[23:09] <TomatoKetchup> ActionParsnip, I don't know but I used it in Mint, it wouldn't get gmail settings automatically, and when configured manually it couldn't even find Gmail.  Reinstalled it.. wiped out settings... still the same.  Now in ubuntu I can't figure out why it makes my fonts when composing huge
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> TomatoKetchup: I'd check, and/or report your own
[23:09] <Xirrin> MrGizmo757: You would know if you turned on 2-level authentication ;)
[23:09] <Xirrin> It turns everything in to a PITA
[23:10] <Xirrin> And its not an accidental move
[23:10] <tujohnubu> ActionParsnip: it is TigerPoint iNM10+AtomD510
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> tujohnubu: can you give a PASTEBIN of:  sudo lshw -C display; lsb_release -a; uname -a       Thanks
[23:10] <MrGizmo757> ok.  i will try setting up Evolution and see what happens.   as far as network or firewall settings it owuld have to be somting inside of ubuntu becuase it was working before the updates. and my other machine on the same network is also working fine.
[23:11] <MrGizmo757> i try evolution and see what happens.
[23:11] <forbidden404> ActionParsnip: Operation not permitted
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> forbidden404: not sure what was going on but the -p option makes the parent folders if they don't exist
[23:12] <forbidden404> I did everything, I mounted debugfs or something like this, and nothing works... what makes me wonder is that I used vgaswitcheroo a long time ago and always workes
[23:12] <forbidden404> worked*
[23:13] <TomatoKetchup> ActionParsnip, looking now, thanks
[23:14] <zooz> hi people
[23:14] <spider> hi
[23:14] <spider> zooz
[23:15] <zooz> is there a way to disable "reconfigure" on every package install?
[23:15] <zooz> it annoys hell of a lot out of me
[23:15] <zooz> especially coming from RHEL/Fedora type of distros..
[23:15] <spider> sorry ,
[23:15] <spider> I am windows user ... but
[23:16] <zooz> the other I asked the other day, how do I disable services auto start after it is installed?
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> zooz: can you give a package example, or is it all packages?
[23:16] <OerHeks> zooz what makes you think you can do without reconfigure?
[23:16] <zooz> OerHeks, I have been using other distributions fine without all this
[23:16] <psusi> zooz, by default, only the high priority questions are asked, which are rare
[23:16] <spider> can anyone here tell me where to find IRC channels for english learning ?
[23:16] <tujohnubu> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/NDQqBJHN
[23:16] <zooz> ActionParsnip, um, I am installing "asterisk" and it prompted me with a command line GUI for some information
[23:17] <zooz> so for example how would you do unattended install of some packages if it asks some questions interactively?
[23:17] <zooz> there must be a way to disable this
[23:17] <psusi> zooz, apparently the information is vital to get the package working and a suitable default could not be determined
[23:17] <anthyanthy> hi all ubuntu users
[23:17] <ActionParsnip> tujohnubu: is it a laptop or a desktop?
[23:17] <tujohnubu> ActionParsnip: nettop
[23:18] <zooz> psusi, what if I, a user, want to decide which info is vital and when to enter it?
[23:18] <psusi> zooz, for unattended installs, you answer the questions in advance
[23:18] <psusi> zooz, you don't... if it is required or the package doesn't work, then it is required...
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> tujohnubu: sounds like your monitr isn't reporting EDID as it should, you may need an xorg.conf to get it running. What make / model is the system please?
[23:19] <tujohnubu> ActionParsnip: samsung syncmaster 931c
[23:19] <zooz> psusi, then answer me this: I have a 100 ubuntu servers and I want to install a package called "foo"
[23:19] <psusi> zooz, though it is always possible that whoever packaged the program marked the question as required when it really could have a sensible default
[23:19] <zooz> which requires some info during the install
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> tujohnubu: of the system please
[23:20] <zooz> psusi, so according to you, I have to go through all of the 100 servers and manually answer all those stupid questions?
[23:20] <zooz> that's really broken by design then
[23:20] <wifioregon> HI, how do I delete the guest account?
[23:20] <psusi> zooz, there was a way to specify the answer in advance when you go to install, but yea.... and it's only broken if the answer isn't *really* required for the package to work, which would mean whoever packaged the program messed up
[23:20] <siganderson> where does ubuntu take the keymap when in virtual terminal?
[23:21] <tujohnubu> ActionParsnip: it is Pegatron Walle L6 PV D-SUB
[23:21] <TomatoKetchup> MrGizmo757, any luck?
[23:21] <MrGizmo757> No luck.
[23:22] <MrGizmo757> i tried it under the live CD before updates and it works there.  but  on my fully updated system it dosent work.
[23:22] <MrGizmo757> i cant figure out why
[23:23] <tujohnubu> ActionParsnip: does system name make sense?
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> tujohnubu: this may help http://allurgroceries.com/n10/xorg.conf.intel    you can change the res as you wish. You didn't have to become root, the users can run the other commands and the sudo for lshw will give the access it needs
[23:24] <Costin> hey, we need help testing a phone number: 213-416-1560, access code is 492-302-232# -- can you guys call in?  it's for testing a conference calling platform.
[23:24] <TomatoKetchup> MrGizmo757, weird, so thunderbird can't see your connection at all?
[23:25] <Jordan_U> Costin: This is #ubuntu, for Ubuntu support only.
[23:25] <OerHeks> Costin wrong channel
[23:25] <zooz> psusi, thanks for the information, that helped me understand the philosophy of debian and/or ubuntu
[23:25] <MrGizmo757> no it dosent seem to be able to connect
[23:25] <zooz> psusi, I have been using RHEL/CentOS/Fedora for many many years and never experienced that kind of nonsense
[23:25] <Costin> sorry!
[23:26] <tujohnubu> ActionParsnip: so i don't need to edit anything? and i just enter a command?
[23:26] <TomatoKetchup> MrGizmo757, what's the exact error you're getting?
[23:26] <tujohnubu> ActionParsnip: can you give an example of resolution change command?
[23:26] <daj5704> hey. I got ubuntu 12.04 and im trying to install it on my 250gb external hard drive but how big do i make the partitions
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> tujohnubu: run:  gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and paste in that text, it may help. Your monitor isn't playing right so you need to TELL your OS what it can do. Good monitors report what they can do
[23:27] <Mike9863> How can I set a window to minimize by scrolling on its title bar?
[23:27] <MrGizmo757> when i enter my credentials in  it starts its auto configuration then it says  unable to find settings for this account.      this happens under both gmail and hotmail.       so i try to set it up manually.  when i do that it give me an incorrect password error. wich is false. becuase it works on my other machine just fine.
[23:27] <ruli> daj5704: one big one
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> daj5704: 10Gb Ext4 for /, 2xRAM amount for swap (I assume less than 2Gb RAM) and the rest Ext4 for /home     the default install option will setup the partitions for you and willbe fine but if you want to get fancy you can do it that way
[23:27] <TomatoKetchup> MrGizmo757,  this is the exact problem I had on Mint
[23:28] <TomatoKetchup> MrGizmo757,  I tried reinstalling, deleting the .thunderbird directory, nothing helped.
[23:28] <TomatoKetchup> MrGizmo757, going to google for a sec, see what I can find.
[23:28] <daj5704> ruli don't i need different partitions for the swap, boot, root and home
[23:28] <MrGizmo757> ok. i been on google alredy i didnt have much luck
[23:29] <tujohnubu> ActionParsnip: i don't have such file
[23:29] <tujohnubu> ActionParsnip: ohh
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> daj5704: you can have one big partition for everything if you want, swap will be setup seperate by default
[23:29] <MrGizmo757> most of the stuff i found was to old to really apply
[23:29] <tujohnubu> ActionParsnip: nevermind, pasting
[23:29] <ruli> daj5704: nope thats a relic of the 1990's. ubuntu is (in theory) an upgradable OS so you wont have to care about separating /home and / either. you'll just end up wasting space in practice
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> tujohnubu: yes, the OS doesn't ship with one but some hardware setups need the file still
[23:30] <TomatoKetchup> MrGizmo757, yeah.  when you manually configure, say.. Gmail... and hit get mail... what server does it say it's trying to connect to at the bottom?
[23:31] <ruli> daj5704: i would even make swap a file on / partition rather than separate partition for more flexibility and marginal performance cost but if you use LVM that's not really a problem eitehr afaik
[23:31] <daj5704> ActionParsnip So what do i make the one big partition like ext4 primary and where do i mount it
[23:31] <MrGizmo757> its not listing a server.     it says tying common server names   then   when it fails it brings up the manual configuration
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> daj5704: that is the default option in the installer
[23:31] <MrGizmo757> incoming is set to IMAP  outgoing is set to SMTP
[23:31] <tujohnubu> ActionParsnip: i did that and i changed modes to 1280 x 1024
[23:32] <TomatoKetchup> MrGizmo757, no I meant if you do manual gmail config, then try to connect
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> tujohnubu: is that...better?
[23:32] <daj5704> ActionParsnip: ok but where do i mount it
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> daj5704: that is managed for you too
[23:32] <ruli> daj5704: the one thing you'll need to understand about ubuntu is the devs aren't brainiacs. the defaults aren't necessarily always the best option, either
[23:32] <TomatoKetchup> MrGizmo757, you might want to check the Tools > Error console... see if anything useful is in there?
[23:32] <tujohnubu> ActionParsnip: so now, now there is a chanse that i won't be able to run X, well i guess i can always remove this file, now i guess i need to reboot?
[23:33] <MrGizmo757> i had to go into advanced settings for that.   its  says IMAP.Gmail.com
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> tujohnubu: possibly, you can boot to root recovery and delete the file
[23:33] <MrGizmo757> server name list  .gmail.com
[23:33] <daj5704> Ruli: what do you recommend. Which partitions do i need to make and how big should i make them
[23:33] <tujohnubu> ActionParsnip: ok i need to quit my irc, hope to see you soon ;)
[23:34] <MrGizmo757> ssl/tls   port 993
[23:35] <ruli> daj5704: one /, no swap. and as soon you enter the OS, go through the process of making a filesystem mounted swap. if you dont want to do that just use default recommeds for swap partition size and everything else for /
[23:37] <john3voltas> greets
[23:37] <daj5704> Ruli: im confused. Im in the installer and stuff and how big should the / be and why should i make a swap after its installed
[23:37] <ActionParsnip> daj5704: you are clearly new to the OS, let the installer work it's magic. Ubuntu is made for Linux newcomers so the defaults should be ok
[23:37] <TomatoKetchup> MrGizmo757, your server name is .gmail.com?
[23:38] <MrGizmo757> thats what it says
[23:38] <TomatoKetchup> MrGizmo757, for incoming it should be imap.gmail.com
[23:38] <john3voltas> is there a boot parameter to tell the kernel where to find the filesystem.squashfs?
[23:38] <MrGizmo757> well it says server type  IMAP   then the line just below it says .gmail.com
[23:38] <daj5704> ActionParsnip: ive used it with wubi but i want it on my external now so i dont know what to do. So justvuse the freespace partition thats primary ext4 and no mount point
[23:38] <ruli> daj5704: because you won't be able to adjust swap size after you install or in the case of LVM at least not without the same risks and problems. if you put too little or too much swap and want to change it you either wont be able to or could be in for a headache. filesystem mounted swap you can easily change size and as often as you need
[23:38] <grimeton> seriously: the logon stuff is f*cked up
[23:38] <TomatoKetchup> yeah. fix that to imap.gmail.com
[23:39] <TomatoKetchup> MrGizmo757, port 993 as well.
[23:39] <MrGizmo757> yep
[23:39] <TomatoKetchup> I'd check your outgoing server, should be smtp.gmail.com
[23:39] <john3voltas> debian has live-media-path=
[23:39] <ActionParsnip> daj5704: it will need a mount point, or the data won't be used.
[23:39] <grimeton> daj5704: you can create as much swapfiles or swap partitions as you want later
[23:39] <ruli> daj5704: windows uses filesystem mounted swap. and it's 2012
[23:40] <MrGizmo757> whats strange is all my info under the advnace settings has all been detected and entered from the setup proscess.   if thunderbird can see all that info it dosent make since that it dosent connect
[23:40] <TomatoKetchup> MrGizmo757, oh I know why, because then it defaults to trying to guess server config
[23:41] <TomatoKetchup> MrGizmo757, which is why .gmail.com is listed, should be imap.gmail.com
[23:41] <daj5704> Im using my phone for this IRC so its hard for me to see everything im getting told to do so what should i do in this installer with a 250gb external hd
[23:41] <grimeton> daj5704: external hd? like usb drive?
[23:41] <TomatoKetchup> MrGizmo757, which you can change, but I think it'll still have problems connecting, because I had the same issue in Mint and it wasn't the server config.  Something about thunderbird isn't allowing it to connect to anything.
[23:42] <psusi> daj5704, just pick the guided install option and let it figure it out for you
[23:42] <MrGizmo757> ok ill change it and see if it works.  outgoing should be SMTP.gmail.com  i would assume
[23:42] <MrGizmo757> ok we'll lets see what happens
[23:42] <ruli> does 12.04 default to LVM partitioning?
[23:42] <psusi> ruli, no
[23:42] <TomatoKetchup> MrGizmo757, yep
[23:42] <ruli> well there you go
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> ruli: its available, just not default
[23:43] <psusi> ruli, you need the alternate installer for that
[23:43] <daj5704> No like an external sata harddrive. Wont the guided install overwrite my windows 7 instead of installing to my external
[23:43] <ruli> wow reallly? not even optional on the desktop installer?
[23:43] <TomatoKetchup> MrGizmo757, if that doesn't work  go to Tools > Error console, not sure if you'll find anything there but worth a shot
[23:43] <john3voltas> where can i see all kernel/boot parameters for ubuntu?
[23:43] <ring1> ActionParsnip, does the desktop version actually support lvm and cryptsetup these days?
[23:44] <psusi> ruli, most people have no reason to use it
[23:44] <escott> john3voltas, the ones you booted with or all possible kernel parameters?
[23:44] <ActionParsnip> john3voltas: they are set in /etc/default/grub      the defaults are:  quiet splash
[23:44] <john3voltas> escott, all
[23:44] <MrGizmo757> ok its partially working.   its connected and its pulling my emails  but  i am gettign secure connection errors
[23:44] <escott> john3voltas, http://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
[23:44] <john3voltas> but that's generic, isn't it?
[23:44] <MrGizmo757> and the Keyring  app keeps popping up
[23:45] <ruli> psusi: well that's one opinion, anyway. i thought it might at least be on dekstop installer. oh well
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> MrGizmo757: set a blank keyring password
[23:45] <john3voltas> escott, but that's generic, isn't it?
[23:45] <psusi> ring1, you can hack it to do lvm by installing the lvm package and manually setting it up then telling the installer which volume to use for which mountpoint, and then after it finishes installing you have to chroot into the installed system and install the lvm package there too
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> ruli: you could pull it in from the repo I guess
[23:45] <MrGizmo757> it dosent look like SSL   is working.
[23:46] <TomatoKetchup> hrm
[23:46] <MrGizmo757> its getting my emails now but  it keeps saying secure connection error.
[23:46] <escott> john3voltas, shouldnt be that different for ubuntu kernel, but it would be vanilla
[23:46] <ruli> ActionParsnip: yeah lot more work. if it's on the alternate at least that's something
[23:46] <TomatoKetchup> MrGizmo757, is authetication method set to Normal Password in the server settings
[23:46] <daj5704> My bad. I didnt know that the replace windows 7 with ubuntu option let me choose my external harddrive.
[23:47] <MrGizmo757> yes its set to normal.
[23:47] <TomatoKetchup> MrGizmo757, SSL/TLS as well.
[23:47] <TomatoKetchup> one sec
[23:47] <john3voltas> escott, i am after a kernel parameter that i can tell ubuntu where to find the filesystem.squashfs. debian has live-media-path
[23:47] <MrGizmo757> yes
[23:48] <escott> john3voltas, why not boot a livecd and check /proc/cmdline
[23:48] <john3voltas> escott, good thinking
[23:48] <TomatoKetchup> MrGizmo757, secure connection error for SMTP or IMAP, does it say?
[23:48] <ring1> psusi, alright, thanks for the info. i was just curious, since i believe it would be a good thing to have in the default installer, so more people would use it. i'm always using the alternate installer for nostalgic reasons ;)
[23:49] <john3voltas> thanks a bunch
[23:49] <MrGizmo757> this is the error
[23:49] <MrGizmo757> Secure connection failed
[23:49] <MrGizmo757>       
[23:49] <MrGizmo757>       
[23:49] <MrGizmo757>       
[23:49] <MrGizmo757>       
[23:49] <FloodBot1> MrGizmo757: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:50] <daj5704> I tried the guided install but it said that the / couldn't be mounted
[23:50] <psusi> ring1, it's a little overkill for most people, especially people dual booting with mac or windows which don't understand lvm
[23:50] <TomatoKetchup> MrGizmo757, ok let me see what else I can come up with
[23:50] <MrGizmo757> ok
[23:51] <Jordan_U> john3voltas: You can also check /boot/grub/grub.cfg and /boot/grub/loopback.cfg on the iso.
[23:51] <ruli> daj5704: well that's ubuntu for you
[23:51] <MrGizmo757> could it be a certificate problem?
[23:52] <daj5704> ruli: haha yeah. it happened on linux mint 12 too
[23:52] <john3voltas> escott, doesn't /proc/cmdline show me just the ones that are currently "running"?
[23:52] <TomatoKetchup> MrGizmo757, honestly I'm not sure
[23:52] <TomatoKetchup> MrGizmo757, never had to mess with certificates to get gmail working.
[23:52] <escott> john3voltas, yes
[23:52] <john3voltas> then that's no good
[23:53] <escott> john3voltas, the ones your running kernel used
[23:53] <john3voltas> i already know the default ones
[23:53] <Jordan_U> john3voltas: What is your end goal? Why do you want to use a non default path to the squashfs?
[23:53] <W1N9Zr0> how do i repair the ubuntu /boot partition+grub so it supports mdadm raid and lvm? do i follow this http://blog.mydream.com.hk/howto/linux/howto-reinstall-grub-in-rescue-mode-while-using-lvm-mdadm example B, but substitute grub>... stuff with grub-install and specific options? which options?
[23:53] <john3voltas> Jordan_U, i want to boot ubuntu in a frugal way using grub4dos
[23:53] <tujohnubu> ActionParsnip: thank you, it worked and i believe that this system thinks that it is a notebook with an external video monitor so i had to disable "notebook" monitor :)
[23:53] <MrGizmo757> well its better then it was. atleast i can get to my emails now.  but a non secure connection error is definatly a concern
[23:54] <Jordan_U> john3voltas: It's much easier to simply leave the iso file as-is and loop boot it via grub2.
[23:54] <psusi> W1N9Zr0, you mount your root fs, and /boot if you have a separate /boot partition, then run grub-install --root-directory=/path/to/root/fs /dev/sda
[23:55] <john3voltas> i can't use grub2
[23:55] <W1N9Zr0> do i need to give grub-install specific options so it can boot with raid and lvm properly? my root is on an lvm volume that's on an mdadm raid array
[23:55] <Jordan_U> john3voltas: Why not?
[23:55] <ring1> psusi, sure, not many would use it. but it would be nice to have the partitioning gui being on par with the text partitioning
[23:55] <daj5704> Thanks for y'alls help though. I'll try to install it some other time
[23:55] <db> hi. when exactly are files in /etc/security/limits.d read? I mean, I made a change, what do I need to do to have it apply to a server process?
[23:55] <Jordan_U> W1N9Zr0: No, grub-install will detect that automatically and configure it properly for you.
[23:56] <OerHeks> W1N9Zr0, all i can think of, is your BIOS setup to boot from your LVM?
[23:56] <psusi> W1N9Zr0, no, it detects it automatically... it also doesn't need a separate /boot partition for lvm and/or raid
[23:56] <john3voltas> Jordan_U, simply because grub2 needs installation whereas grub4dos can be put to work without being installed into the mbr
[23:56] <W1N9Zr0> ok thanks
[23:56] <psusi> ring1, yea, unfortunately it's hard keeping the image size down to fit on a cd... would be nice to have on the dvd though
[23:57] <john3voltas> Jordan_U, i need it for my company laptop where i am forced to use windows and prohibited to install/run linux
[23:57] <Jordan_U> john3voltas: grub2 can also be loaded from Windows's bootloader, though I'll admit the documentation for doing so is poor.
[23:57] <OerHeks> W1N9Zr0, sorry, i misread you have a issue with it
[23:57] <psusi> OerHeks, bios boots from a disk.... it knows nothing about lvm
[23:57] <TomatoKetchup> MrGizmo757, for your outgoing server, is smtp.gmail.com set to STARTTLS, Normal Password, and port 587?
[23:57] <MrGizmo757> ok
[23:57] <MrGizmo757> its currently on ssl/tls
[23:57] <john3voltas> Jordan_U, for me and for this particular case, grub2 is a 'no go'
[23:58] <MrGizmo757> i change that and see
[23:58] <Jordan_U> john3voltas: In fact Wubi uses grub2, and it sounds like Wubi might be an ideal solution for you (which is not something I say often :)
[23:58] <TomatoKetchup> change that
[23:58] <john3voltas> Jordan_U,  i don't even know what a wubi is
[23:58] <psusi> Jordan_U, I could have sworn that wubi used grub4dos
[23:59] <Jordan_U> psusi: It used to, before Ubuntu switched to grub2.
[23:59] <tujohnubu> !classic
[23:59] <MrGizmo757> still getting the error
[23:59] <tujohnubu> !notunity
[23:59] <TomatoKetchup> MrGizmo757, yeah, well at least your smtp server is configured correctly now, lol  ... odd I really can't find much on this problem
[23:59] <ring1> psusi, i read in the future beginning with 12.10 there will be no image with cd size anymore. the image will grow up to 800 mb. the dvd and netinstall will of course stay