[07:41] <serfus> sultan2, ОЊОЋОе ОЉОЕОаОф ОЕОеОЋОф, ОћОЋОљ ОюОљ ОъОфОЌОЉОе ОъОъОЕ
[07:41] <sultan2> serfus: ОћОљОЮ ОЏОЋОЋОаОфОџ ОћОЎОљ ОюОЕОеОЋОф ОЌОЋОЉОћ?
[07:41] <serfus> ОюОљ
[07:42] <serfus> ОЕОаОф ОЕОЎОеОЋОф
[07:42] <serfus> ОЕОаОћ ОюОцОаОЎ ОћОАОЊОЎОе
[07:42] <serfus> ОћОфОаОЊОЉОЋОф
[07:42] <sultan2> ОЌОЊОЕОћ ОъОљОЏОќОЉОф. ОфОЋОЊОћ ОеОЉОћ ОбОю ОЕОўОеОЌОф ОюОћОЋОЊОЎОбОаОЎ, serfus.
[07:43] <serfus> ОъОљОЏОќОЉОф? D: ОюОъОћ?
[07:43] <serfus> ОЏОю ОћОЏОЉОЋОЊ ОюОЋ
[07:45] <sultan2> ОљОаОЎ ОдОеОЎОџ ОљОЋОфОЋ ОцОбОЎОю ОЉОДОћОЎОюОћ
[07:45] <sultan2> ;-)
[07:59] <serfus> ОЏОЋОюОаОЋ
[08:23] <sultan2> ОљОаОЎ ОюОљ ОъОЉОЎОЪ ОюОъОћ ОДОЎОЎОъОф ОЕОњОЎОљОф ОћОЏОфОЎОЉ ОЕОю "ОбОю ОљОЋОЊОЋОф" ОЉОЏОю ОЏОџ ОћОеОЉОћ ОЎОЎОЕОЋОъОЎОЮ?
[08:23] <sultan2> ОъОЋОќОЎОюОћ ОЎОЕОеОљОю ОюОљ ОбОЋОЕОћ ОЏОќОЋ ОўОбОЋОф ОЋОЕОЮ ОЏОЋОфОЉОЎОЮ "ОљОЋОЊОЋОф Firefox"
[08:24] <sultan2> On about (WTF?)
[08:24] <sultan2> ОќОЋ ОАОфОЮ ОћОЕОЌОфОћ ОЕОю ОћОъОюОю. ОЌОЉОю ОъОљОЋОЊ.
[08:29] <matanya> sultan2: ОљОюОЋ ОћОаОЌОЎОЋОф ОћОљОДОЊОъОЎОћ
[08:29] <matanya> ОбОю ОљОБ ОЕОќОћ ОюОљ ОъОДОЋОЉОю
[08:29] <sultan2> ОљОЎОцОћ?
[08:29] <sultan2> ОќОћ ОюОљ ОбОаОЎОЎОЪ ОЕОю ОъОДОЋОЉОю
[08:29] <Interruptus> ОћОъОъ ОљОаОЎ ОЉОъОЎОюОљ ОбОЋОЉОЊ ОбОю ОљОаОњОюОЎОф
[08:29] <Interruptus> ОюОљ ОљОЋОћОЉ ОЕОъОфОеОњОъОЎОЮ ОюОЎ ОљОф ОћОфОЋОЏОаОЋОф
[08:29] <sultan2> ОћОъОЎОюОћ About ОљОЎОаОаОћ On about
[08:29] <Interruptus> ОюОљ ОъОАОфОЊОе ОюОЎ ОЎОцОћ ОЉОбОЎОЪ
[08:29] <sultan2> ОЏОа"Ою
[08:30] <sultan2> ОъОЎ ОќОЋ ОћОЎОбОаОЋ ОљОДОЊОъОЎОћ?
[08:30] <matanya> http://www.tapuz.co.il/forums2008/viewmsg.aspx?forumid=1072&messageid=146593007&r=1
[08:31] <sultan2> ОљОаОЎ ОъОдОЊОЊ ОЉ"ОљОЋОЊОЋОф" ОЉОюОЉОЊ. ОћОљОЮ ОљОаОЌОаОЋ ОъОфОеОњОъОЎОЮ Dynamic ОљОю ОъОЕОфОаОћ ОљОЋ ОљОю ОЊОЎОаОъОЎ?
[08:32] <sultan2> ОљОаОЎ ОЉОбОЊ ОюОбОЉОеОф ОЉОљОЋОцОЪ ОўОћОЋОе ОљОЉОю ОцОћ ОќОћ ОюОљ ОћОъОДОЋОЮ ОћОеОљОЋОЎ, ОюОцОЎ ОбОаОЎОЋОф ОЊОбОфОЎ, ОъОЏОЎОЋОЋОЪ ОЕОъОъОЕОД ОъОЕОфОъОЕ ОћОЎОаОЋ ОДОдОе ОЋОљОЎОаОЋ ОЌОЋОЉОеОф.
[08:33] <matanya> ОюОъОЕОю, ОћОъОЎОюОћ ОћОЎОаОЋ ОЉОфОњОЋОЉОфОџ ОъОЎОЋОфОеОф
[08:33] <matanya> ОљОЮ ОЏОЎ ОњОЮ ОљОаОЎ ОъОбОЊОЎОБ ОљОф ОљОЋОЊОЋОф. ОбОю ОљОБ ОЕОљОЎОаОћ ОъОЊОЋОЎОДОф
[08:34] <sultan2> ОЉОеОЋОе ОЕОћОЎОљ ОюОљ ОъОЊОЋОЎОДОф
[08:34] <Interruptus> ОћОЋОюОЎОЕОЎОў ОЏОЕОљОаОЎ ОеОЋОдОћ ОюОћОбОЉОЎОе ОюОъОЕОфОъОЕ ОфОеОњОЋОЮ
[08:34] <Interruptus> ОљОаОЎ ОљОЕОфОъОЕ ОЉОЊОеОџ ОћОЏОЎ ОДОдОеОћ
[08:34] <Interruptus> ОЋОъОЎОаОЎОъОюОЎОАОўОЎОф
[08:34] <Interruptus> ОљОЎОЪ ОюОЎ ОЕОцОб ОЕОю ОъОДОЋОЮ ОЕОЮ
[08:34] <sultan2> ОћОфОеОњОЋОъОЎОЮ ОъОљОЋОЊ ОбОЎОюОњОЎОЮ, ОюОдОбОеОЎ ОћОеОЉ.
[08:34] <Interruptus> ОќОћ ОњОЮ ОдОеОЎОџ ОюОћОЎОЋОф ОъОЋОЉОЪ ОЋОњОЮ ОДОдОе
[08:34] <sultan2> ОњОЮ ОљОаОЎ
[08:34] <sultan2> ОЉОЊОЎОЋОД!
[08:35] <matanya> ОљОфОЮ ОъОЋОќОъОаОЎОЮ ОюОцОаОЋОф ОюОЎОеОЋОЪ
[08:35] <Interruptus> ОЕОъОб ОфОеОњОЋОъОЎ ОћОбОЉОеОЎОф ОћОЏОЎ ОъОќОбОќОбОЎОЮ ОЕОеОљОЎОфОЎ
[08:35] <Interruptus> ОаОъОдОљОЎОЮ ОЉОЋОЋОЎОаОЊОЋОА
[08:35] <Interruptus> ОљОфОћ ОеОЋОљОћ ОћОЋОЊОбОћ ОЋОъОаОАОћ ОюОаОЌОЕ ОъОћ ОќОћ ОљОЋОъОе
[08:37] <matanya> sultan2: http://wiki.hamakor.org.il/index.php/Gezer
[08:40] <sultan2> matanya: ОћОъОЎОЎОЕОъОЎОЮ ОЕОю ОњОќОе ОЋОбОЕОЎОЮ ОбОЉОЋОЊОћ ОеОбОћ ОЋОъОЋОдОЎОљОЎОЮ ОЕОЮ ОеОб ОюОЏОљОЎОюОЋ ОДОћОЎОюОћ ОћОЎОЕОеОљОюОЎОф
[08:40] <matanya> sultan2: ОљОЎОаОЎ ОЎОЋОЊОб ОъОЎ ОљОфОћ, ОљОЉОю ОљОаОЎ ОЋОћОљОаОЕОЎОЮ ОЉОъОЎОќОЮ ОћОќОћ ОъОЕОДОЎОбОЎОЮ ОЕОбОЋОф ОеОЉОЋОф ОЉОфОеОњОЋОЮ, ОюОЉОЋОљ ОЋОюОЉОўОю ОЏОџ ОљОф ОћОбОЉОЋОЊОћ ОЋОюОќОюОќОю ОЉОћ ОћОЋОљ ОъОбОЕОћ ОюОљ ОеОљОЋОЎ
[08:41] <sultan2> ОћОЮ ОъОфОЎОЎОЌОАОЎОЮ ОљОю ОљОЌОеОЎОЮ ОЏОљОю ОЎОюОЊОЎОЮ ОДОўОаОЎОЮ, ОќОЋ ОћОЉОбОЎОћ ОЕОюОЎ ОбОъОЮ.
[08:42] <matanya> ОЎОЕ ОюОџ ОЊОбОћ ОЕОЋОаОћ, ОЉОЉОДОЕОћ. ОфОЉОЎОб ОљОЋОфОћ ОЉОдОЋОеОћ ОеОљОЋОЎОћ ОЋОфОцОбОю ОюОЕОаОЋОф. ОюОЉОЋОљ ОЋОюОћОўОЎОЌ ОЊОЉОеОЎОЮ ОќОћ ОюОљ ОЎОцОћ, ОюОљ ОеОљОЋОЎ ОЋОюОљ ОъОДОЋОЉОю
[08:42] <sultan2> ОюОъОЕОю ОћОъОЎОюОћ Script ОеОљОЋОЎОћ ОюОћОфОцОеОЕ ОЏ-ОфОАОеОЎОў ОЋОюОљ ОЏ-ОАОДОеОЎОцОў
[08:42] <matanya> ОЏОџ ОљОфОћ ОАОЉОЋОе
[08:42] <matanya> ОъОАОфОЉОе ОЕОЎОЕ ОћОЌОЋОюОДОЎОЮ ОбОюОЎОџ
[08:42] <sultan2> ОљОЎОаОаОЎ ОъОЏОЎОе ОљОЋОфОџ ОЋОюОЏОЪ ОљОЎОаОаОЎ ОЎОЏОЋОю ОюОћОЉОЎОб ОЊОбОћ ОЏОюОцОЎОџ, ОбОЊ ОЏОћ ОЎОЌОАОџ ОъОЏОЋОЉОЊ, matanya.
[08:42] <sultan2> ОюОљ ОЉОъОЋОќОЎОюОћ, ОюОцОЌОЋОф.
[08:43] <sultan2> Script = ОфОАОеОЎОў
[08:43] <Interruptus> ОљОЎОџ ОфОфОеОњОЮ ОаОЋОАОДОеОЎОцОў
[08:43] <Interruptus> ОљОюОфОАОеОЎОў
[08:43] <sultan2> ОљОЎОЪ ОдОЋОеОџ ОюОЉОюОЉОю ОЎОюОЊОЎОЮ ОЋОљОаОЕОЎОЮ
[08:43] <sultan2> ОљОЋОюОЎ
[08:43] <matanya> ОфОеОњОъОфОЎ ОюОљ ОъОбОў ОъОЌОеОЋОќОЋОф ОњОЮ ОЉОъОЋОдОеОЎ ОъОЋОќОЎОюОћ, ОЋОљОаОЎ ОъОЏОЎОе ОљОф ОћОњОЎОЕОћ ОЕОЮ
[08:44] <sultan2> Password = ОъОЎОюОф ОъОцОфОЌ
[08:44] <sultan2> Ppassphrase = ОъОЕОцОў ОъОцОфОЌ
[08:44] <sultan2> ОљОЉОю, ОюОъОдОбОе, ОћОъОЎОюОћ ОфОЋОеОњОъОћ ОљОю ОАОЎОАОъОљ (ОъОћ?)
[08:44] <sultan2> Passphrase
[08:45] <sultan2> ОљОЎОаОаОЎ ОъОўОЎОЌ ОЊОЉОе
[08:45] <sultan2> ОАОћ"ОЏ ОћОЉОбОфОЎ ОљОф ОбОъОЊОфОЎ
[08:47] <sultan2> *** ОЕОюОЋОЮ matanya, ОљОаОљ ОдОЋОе ОбОЎОъОЎ ОДОЕОе ОЉ IRC ОЉОћОДОЊОЮ. ОљОаОЎ ОъОбОЋОаОЎОЎОЪ ОюОЕОЋОЌОЌ ОбОЎОъОџ ОЉОбОаОЎОЎОЪ. ОфОЋОЊОћ.
[08:47] <sultan2> Interruptus: ОъОћ ОќОћ ОаОЋОАОДОеОЎОцОў? NoScript?
[08:48] <sultan2> ОљОЮ ОЏОЪ, ОЎОЕ ОюОЕОъОЋОе ОбОю ОћОАОЎОъОЪ ОћОъОАОЌОеОЎ ОЏОцОЎ ОЕОаОћОњОЋ ОюОфОДОЪ ОљОЋОфОЎ ОъОАОцОе ОцОбОъОЎОЮ ОЉОбОаОЎОЎОЪ ОљОЋ ОюОЌОюОЋОцОЎОЪ ОюОеОЕОЋОЮ ОЉОфОЋОџ ОДОЋОцОАОљОф ОћОљОЋОЊОЋОф: ОаОЋОАОДОеОЎОцОў (NoScript)
[08:50] <sultan2> http://wiki.hamakor.org.il/index.php/Gezer/ОЊОњОЕОЎОЮ/GNOME Unknown - ОюОљ ОЎОЊОЋОб
[08:50] <sultan2> ОъОћ ОбОЮ: ОюОљ ОъОЋОЏОе?
[08:50] <sultan2> Not recognized
[08:51] <sultan2> ОъОдОЊ ОЕОаОЎ, ОюОљ ОЎОЊОЋОбОћОЋОюОЮ ОЎОЋОфОе ОЉОљОЮ ОаОбОЕОћ ОЕОЎОъОЋОЕ ОЉОъОЎОюОћ recognized ОЉОћОДОЕОеОЎОЮ ОДОеОЋОЉОЎОЮ
[08:58] <sultan2> matanya, ОљОЋОъОаОЮ ОћОЉОбОфОЎ ОќОЎОюОЋОф ОљОЉОю ОюОљ ОеОъОќОфОЎ ОЕОћОбОЉОЋОЊОћ ОЕОю ОњОќОе ОћОЎОаОћ ОцОАОЋОюОћ ОюОЌОюОЋОўОЎОЪ
[08:59] <sultan2> matanya, ОЕОЎОЮ ОюОЉ: ОљОаОЎ ОЏОфОЉОфОЎ "ОћОъОЎОЎОЕОъОЎОЮ ОЕОю ОњОќОе ОЋОбОЕОЎОЮ ОбОЉОЋОЊОћ ОеОбОћ"
[09:00] <sultan2> ОЋОќОЋ ОЉОбОЎОДОе ОъОЉОЌОЎОаОф ОўОДОў (ОаОЎОъОЋОА ОЉОћОфОаОћОњОЋОф) ОЋОЉОњОЎОЕОћ ОцОўОеОЋОаОЎОф ОЕОћОЎОаОћ ОюОљ ОеОљОЋОЎОћ.
[09:00] <sultan2> ОЋОЏОЋОЋОаОфОЎ ОюОљ ОћОЎОфОћ ОљОю ОЏОю ОћОъОЕОфОфОцОЎОЮ ОъОЏОЎОЋОЋОЪ ОЕОљОЎОаОЎ ОъОЏОЎОе ОљОф ОЏОЋОюОЮ.
[09:19] <sultan2> ОЋОЕОЋОЉ, ОъОЎ ОќОЋ ОћОљОДОЊОъОЎОћ? ОЋОюОъОћ ОЉОдОеОцОфОЎОф ОћОфОеОњОЋОЮ ОЕОю About ОћОЋОљ ОцОЕОЋОў ОљОЋОЊОЋОф?
[09:59] <sultan2> ОћОфОеОњОЋОЮ ОћОдОеОцОфОЎ ОЕОю ОљОЋОЊОЋОф ОћОЋОљ: "ОЉОљОЋОЊОЋОф"
[09:59] <sultan2> ОЉ (├ђ) ...
[12:50] <Avihay> translating software is really hard because they use a minimal amount of words to express an idea. and there often isn't another word in the target language that fits the idea. I used to think it was easy until I tried it myself
[12:54] <Avihay> I was surprised by the amount of computer terms in Hebrew that I didn't know, the amount of computer terms in Hebrew that make my stomach convulse because they just sound so wrong, and how easy it is for me to express myself in English when talking about technical stuff
[12:55] <Avihay> compared to Hebrew
[12:59] <Avihay> as for practical translation, if there are terms that don't fit, I'd prefer to leave both the English and the Hebrew translation. especially in obscure error messages where reading a translated message deprives you of the little information you might have been able to glean from it
[13:02] <Avihay> I find it hard to decide if "NoScript" should be translated to "(NoScript) ОаОЋОАОДОеОЎОцОў" or "(NoScript) ОљОюОфОАОеОЎОў" ...
[13:17] <sultan2> ОюОћОЕОљОЎОе ОљОф ОАОЎОъОЪ ОћОъОАОЌОе NoScript
[13:20] <sultan2> ОћОЉОбОЎОћ ОћОаОЋОЏОЌОЎОф, ОюОцОЎ ОЊОбОфОЎ, ОћОЎОљ ОЕОДОЎОЎОъОЎОЮ ОљОаОЕОЎОЮ ОЕОДОЕОЋОеОЎОЮ Ою"ОњОќОе" ОЋОћОЮОъОфОаОћОњОЎОЮ ОЉОљОЋОцОЪ ОЎОћОЎОе ОЋОћОљОЮ ОћОЏОЎ ОЌОЏОъОЎОЮ ОЏОЕОъОћ ОЕОћОЮ ОбОЋОЕОЎОЮ ОюОъОбОЕОћ ОќОћ ОљОЎОџ ОюОцОеОЋОА ОљОф ОЕОъОЮ ОЉОЏОю ОъОДОЋОЮ ОЕОеОД ОаОЎОфОЪ ОЉОъОЎОаОЎОъОЋОЮ ОъОљОъОЦ, ОЏОюОЋОъОе ОЕОъОЮ ОЋОћОъОЋОаОЎОўОЎОЪ ОћОљОаОЋОЏОЎ ОЕОюОћОЮ ОЌОЕОЋОЉ, ОЋОюОљ ОљОЎОЏОЋОф ОЕОЋОюОЌОЪ ОћОбОЉОЋОЊОћ ОЋОќОћ ОњОЋОеОЮ ОюОћОеОЉОћ ОќОбОЮ ОљО
[13:20] <Avihay> ├Ќ┬ћ├Ќ┬Љ├Ќ┬б├Ќ┬Ў├Ќ┬ћ ├Ќ┬ћ├Ќ ├Ќ┬Ћ├Ќ┬Џ├Ќ┬Ќ├Ќ┬Ў├Ќ┬ф, ├Ќ┬ю├Ќ┬ц├Ќ┬Ў ├Ќ┬Њ├Ќ┬б├Ќ┬ф├Ќ┬Ў, ├Ќ┬ћ├Ќ┬Ў├Ќ┬љ ├Ќ┬Е├Ќ┬Д├Ќ┬Ў├Ќ┬Ў├Ќ┬ъ├Ќ┬Ў├Ќ┬Ю ├Ќ┬љ├Ќ ├Ќ┬Е├Ќ┬Ў├Ќ┬Ю ├Ќ┬Е├Ќ┬Д├Ќ┬Е├Ќ┬Ћ├Ќ┬е├Ќ┬Ў├Ќ┬Ю ├Ќ┬ю"├Ќ┬њ├Ќ┬ќ├Ќ┬е" ├Ќ┬Ћ├Ќ┬ћ├Ќ┬Ю├Ќ┬ъ├Ќ┬ф├Ќ ├Ќ┬ћ├Ќ┬њ├Ќ┬Ў├Ќ┬Ю ├Ќ┬Љ├Ќ┬љ├Ќ┬Ћ├Ќ┬ц├Ќ┬Ъ ├Ќ┬Ў├Ќ┬ћ├Ќ┬Ў├Ќ┬е ├Ќ┬Ћ├Ќ┬ћ├Ќ┬љ├Ќ┬Ю ├Ќ┬ћ├Ќ┬Џ├Ќ┬Ў ├Ќ┬Ќ├Ќ┬Џ├Ќ┬ъ├Ќ┬Ў├Ќ┬Ю ├Ќ┬Џ├Ќ┬Е├Ќ┬ъ├Ќ┬ћ ├Ќ┬Е├Ќ┬ћ├Ќ┬Ю ├Ќ┬б├Ќ┬Ћ├Ќ┬Е├Ќ┬Ў├Ќ┬Ю ├Ќ┬ю├Ќ┬ъ├Ќ┬б├Ќ┬Е├Ќ┬ћ ├Ќ┬ќ├Ќ┬ћ ├Ќ┬љ├Ќ┬Ў├Ќ┬џ ├Ќ┬ю├Ќ┬ц├Ќ┬е├Ќ┬Ћ├Ќ┬А ├Ќ┬љ├Ќ┬ф ├Ќ┬Е├Ќ┬ъ├Ќ┬Ю
[13:20] <Avihay> ├Ќ┬Љ├Ќ┬Џ├Ќ┬ю ├Ќ┬ъ├Ќ┬Д├Ќ┬Ћ├Ќ┬Ю ├Ќ┬Е├Ќ┬е├Ќ┬Д ├Ќ ├Ќ┬Ў├Ќ┬ф├Ќ┬Ъ ├Ќ┬Љ├Ќ┬ъ├Ќ┬Ў├Ќ ├Ќ┬Ў├Ќ┬ъ├Ќ┬Ћ├Ќ┬Ю ├Ќ┬ъ├Ќ┬љ├Ќ┬ъ├Ќ┬Ц, ├Ќ┬Џ├Ќ┬ю├Ќ┬Ћ├Ќ┬ъ├Ќ┬е ├Ќ┬Е├Ќ┬ъ├Ќ┬Ю ├Ќ┬Ћ├Ќ┬ћ├Ќ┬ъ├Ќ┬Ћ├Ќ ├Ќ┬Ў├Ќ┬ў├Ќ┬Ў├Ќ┬Ъ ├Ќ┬ћ├Ќ┬љ├Ќ ├Ќ┬Ћ├Ќ┬Џ├Ќ┬Ў ├Ќ┬Е├Ќ┬ю├Ќ┬ћ├Ќ┬Ю ├Ќ┬Ќ├Ќ┬Е├Ќ┬Ћ├Ќ┬Љ, ├Ќ┬Ћ├Ќ┬ю├Ќ┬љ ├Ќ┬љ├Ќ┬Ў├Ќ┬Џ├Ќ┬Ћ├Ќ┬ф ├Ќ┬Е├Ќ┬Ћ├Ќ┬ю├Ќ┬Ќ├Ќ┬Ъ ├Ќ┬ћ├Ќ┬б├Ќ┬Љ├Ќ┬Ћ├Ќ┬Њ├Ќ┬ћ ├Ќ┬Ћ├Ќ┬ќ├Ќ┬ћ ├Ќ┬њ├Ќ┬Ћ├Ќ┬е├Ќ┬Ю ├Ќ┬ю├Ќ┬ћ├Ќ┬е├Ќ┬Љ├Ќ┬ћ ├Ќ┬ќ├Ќ┬б├Ќ┬Ю ├Ќ┬љ├Ќ?
[13:21] <sultan2> Avihay: ├Ќ┬ћ├Ќ┬Љ├Ќ┬б├Ќ┬Ў├Ќ┬ћ ├Ќ┬ћ├Ќ ├Ќ┬Ћ
[13:21] <Avihay>  Avihay: ├Ќ┬ћ├Ќ┬Љ├Ќ┬б├Ќ┬Ў├Ќ┬ћ ├Ќ┬ћ├Ќ ├Ќ┬Ћ
[13:21] <Avihay> :-<
[13:21] <sultan2> ОћОЏОЎОфОЋОЉ ОюОљ ОЉОеОЋОе, ОаОљ ОћОЕОфОъОЕ ОЉ pastebin
[13:21] <sultan2> http://dpaste.de/
[13:22] <Avihay> let's try this again. your message from 16:20 was unreadable, can you resend it?
[13:23] <sultan2> ОЉОЏОю ОљОЋОцОЪ, ОљОфОћ ОдОцОЋОЎ ОюОеОљОЋОф ОћОъОЋОЪ ОъОДОеОЎОЮ ОЉОћОЮ ОцОюОЋОаОЎ ОфОеОњОЮ ОъОбОю Ою-80% ОЋОљОЎОќОћ ОЊОЉОЎОю ОъОњОќОе ОЉОљ, ОъОЕОЏОфОЉ ОљОф ОЕОбОЕОЎОф ОбОЮ ОЕОњОЎОљОЋОф ОЏОфОЎОЉ (ОюОљ ОцОЌОЋОф!) ОЋОюОЉОАОЋОБ ОеОЋОЕОЮ ОљОф ОЕОъОЋ ОЉОеОЕОЎОъОф ОћОфОЋОЊОЋОф ОЏОЕОћОЋОљ ОЉОЏОюОю ОћОфОбОеОЉ ОЉ-5% ОъОћОфОеОњОЋОЮ ОљОЮ ОЉОЏОюОю.
[13:23] <sultan2> ok
[13:24] <sultan2> Avihay: http://dpaste.de/TbQ6S/
[13:25] <Avihay> oh, I see
[13:26] <Avihay> spelling mistakes are unforgivable! I don't care if he rewrites and adds that 5% and takes all the credit.
[13:27] <sultan2> You have no speech because someone who is abusing his "good" reputation is abusing her/his status. Just because they "have" more seniority does not mean that they are the smartest men in the world.
[13:27] <Avihay> "you have no speech" = "ОљОЎОЪ ОюОџ ОъОЎОюОћ" ?
[13:27] <sultan2> A new group, that listens to the users, needs to be established.
[13:27] <sultan2> Indeed, you have no say, for the most part.
[13:30] <Avihay> well, I do have the freedom not to choose inferior Hebrew translation and stick to the English translation. but unfortunately, it prevents F/OSS from getting a wider acceptance
[13:34] <sultan2> EXACTLY! I had almost managed to get a district judge in Tel Aviv District court to try to convince the Justice Ministry (so called justice) known in Hebrew as "Misrad HaMishpatim" to test and give a try to the GNU desktop in court halls and secretary offices but after being upset from the translated UI, she decided not to do so.
[13:35] <sultan2> I use English UI because the translators are not really translating, they put their name, write a few entries and drop it and they will start to bark on new contributors that they do a bad job and they ignore their work.
[13:37] <sultan2> Let them have their silly "reputation", when GNU will be outlaw in Israel because we had no power against M$ & Co. they will be sorry for their arrogant manner of behavior.
[13:39] <sultan2> I love standards and order, but we must listen, join and cooperate with everyone, we can't have a few who claim for seniority and shut everyone else up.
[13:46] <Avihay> btw, in gnome or unity, or whatever you use, can you pick which programs will be translated and which won't on a per program basis?
[13:46] <Interruptus> ОЎОЋОаОЎОўОЎ ОќОћ ОќОЋОЋОбОф ОбОЋОюОъОЎОЮ
[13:47] <Interruptus> ОъОъОЕ ОЏОЋОљОЉ ОюОЎ ОЉОбОаОЎОЮ ОюОеОљОЋОф ОљОф ОќОћ
[13:47] <Interruptus> ОќОћ ОъОдОЎОД ОюОЎ
[13:48] <Avihay> I never really saw unity in action
[13:49] <Avihay> other then a video clip on youtube. I can say the same thing on gnome3
[13:51] <sultan2> Avihay: Are you referring to the menu entries under the About menu?
[13:51] <serfus> ОћОљОъОф ОЕОЎОЋОаОЎОўОЎ ОЊОЎ ОаОЋОЌ ОЏОљОЕОе ОюОЋОъОЊОЎОЮ ОюОбОЉОЋОЊ ОљОЎОфОЋ
[13:51] <serfus> ОљОф ОњОаОЋОЮ 3 ОюОљ ОаОЎОАОЎОфОЎ
[13:51] <Interruptus> ОбОЉОеОфОЎ Ою xfce 4.10
[13:51] <serfus> ОъОљОЋОЊ ОљОЎОаОўОЋОљОўОЎОЉОЎ
[13:52] <serfus> ОљОаОЎ ОбОЏОЕОЎОЋ ОбОю lxde
[13:52] <Interruptus> ОДОдОф ОўОЋОЋОЎОДОЎОаОњ ОЋОћОЋОљ ОбОЋОЉОЊ ОЌОюОДОюОД
[13:52] <serfus> ОћОЎОЎОфОЎ ОћОеОЉОћ ОќОъОЪ ОбОЮ xfce ОњОЮ
[14:06] <Avihay> sultan2: no. in KDE, I can set the whole system language to Hebrew if I wish, or I can select individual apps to be translated. I can even set language fall-backs,  so that if the program doesn't have a translation in, say, Klingon, then it will display it in Hebrew, and if it doesn't have it in hebrew then it will display the string in english
[14:06] <Avihay> who am I kidding
[14:06] <Avihay> the Klingon translation is way more complete then the Hebrew one ever was
[14:23] <Avihay> sultan2: I always wonder why you don't try KDE and use half-baked solutions like window managers that only give you partial solutions
[14:24] <sultan2> Do you know which WM I'm using? =-o
[14:25] <sultan2> Or you assume that it is anything but KDE?
[14:25] <Avihay> KDE's wm is called kwin, it's part of a larger solution
[14:26] <sultan2> I'm using Xfce, Fluxbox, KDE, IceWM, Openbox and MATE on different machines. Mainly Xfce, Fluxbox and KDE.
[14:26] <Avihay> and yes, I assumed you use anything but kwin as a wm
[14:34] <Avihay> sorry, I have a hard time to accept that people who use KDE will want to use anything other then
[14:44] <sultan2> I like Xfce and KDE but I don't know which I like more.
[14:44] <sultan2> I'm using Openbox to test the pipe-menu feature with different command line interfaces
[14:45] <sultan2> IceWM for a server computer
[14:45] <sultan2> And I'm hunting bugs in Fluxbox
[15:00] <sultan2> different command line software*
[15:01] <Interruptus> ОљОаОЎ ОеОД ОеОЋОдОћ ОъОъОЕОД ОаОДОЎ
[15:01] <Interruptus> ОЋОЉОюОЎ ОЕОўОЋОЎОЋОф
[15:01] <Interruptus> ОЋОћОцОфОбОЋОф ОЕОдОЋОаОЌОЋОф ОюОЎ ОъОДОдОћ ОћОъОАОџ
[15:01] <Interruptus> ОЉОЋОеОе ОъОЕОЎОъОЋОф ОцОЕОЋОў
[15:01] <Interruptus> ОЕОбОЋОЪ
[15:02] <Interruptus> ОЋОъОДОЋОЮ ОЕОЉОЋ ОљОеОљОћ ОЌОЎОЋОЋОЎОЎОЮ
[15:02] <Interruptus> ОЏОю ОЕОљОе ОћОЕОЋОЋОаОдОЎОЮ ОъОЎОЋОфОе ОъОќОЉОю ОљОф ОћОъОЌОЕОЉ ОЋОъОЏОбОЎОА
[15:18] <Avihay> me too, most of the time. I went and replaced the default theme with one that gives me a few extra pixels
[15:41] <sultan2> ОљОЏОЪ, ОЎОЕ ОдОЋОеОџ ОЉОъОбОеОЏОф ОћОцОбОюОћ ОЕОфОцОбОЎОю ОљОф ОћОъОЌОЕОЉ ОЋОюОљ ОъОЌОЕОЉ ОЕОЎОцОбОЎОю ОљОф ОъОбОеОЏОф ОћОћОцОбОюОћ.
[16:06] <Interruptus> Об"Об KDE
[16:08] <sultan2> ОћОъОбОеОЏОф KDE3 ОўОЋОЉОћ ОљОЉОю KDE4 (ОюОцОЌОЋОф ОбОю ОАОЋОќОћ) ОеОбОћ.
[16:09] <sultan2> ОљОЮ ОљОаОЎ ОћОЎОЎОфОЎ ОЉОЪ 10 ОюОбОеОџ ОљОќ KDE3 ОћОЎОљ ОАОЉОЎОЉОф ОбОЉОЋОЊОћ ОъОљОЋОЊ ОъОюОћОЎОЉОћ
[16:10] <Interruptus> ОДОЎОЊОЎОљОЎ 3 ОћОЎОфОћ ОъОбОЋОюОћ
[16:10] <Interruptus> ОЏОЎ ОћОЎОљ ОбОЉОЊОћ ОцОЕОЋОў
[16:10] <Interruptus> ОбОЊ ОфОДОЋОцОћ ОъОљОЋОЌОеОф ОбОЉОЊОфОЎ ОбОЮ KDE3
[16:10] <Interruptus> ОЋОљОќ ОбОЉОеОфОЎ ОюОњОаОЋОЮ2
[16:58] <Avihay> I prefer KDE4 over KDE3. talking only about the DE and not the SC, it has a few features that I like, even if stuff are still horribly broken, like the default task-man. composting is nice, especially the features that actually help rather then adding just some extra bling. I really like my session being saved automatically, though I'd like better control over that, and then there are activities. activities are a killer feature. they just need to flesh
[16:58] <Avihay> it out a little more. gnome3's infi-virtual desktop is also a step in the right direction. and then there are all the new storage and indexing technologies, but that's part of the SC
[17:01] <sultan2> What SC is?
[17:03] <Avihay> Software Compilation
[17:03] <Avihay> who the F translate Result format to ОфОАОЊОЎОе ОфОЋОдОљОћ?
[17:04] <sultan2> ОАОЎОЊОЋОе ОфОЋОдОљОћ ОљОЋ ОфОЋОдОљОЋОф
[17:05] <sultan2> ОфОАОЊОЎОе ОЎОћОЎОћ ОћОЋОюОЮ ОбОЉОЋОе File format, ОюОцОЎ ОЊОбОфОЎ
[17:06] <sultan2> The words ОъОЉОаОћ; ОАОЎОЊОЋОе; ОдОЋОеОф; ОљОеОњОЋОЪ will be more proper than ОфОАОЊОЎОе in: Result format
[17:06] <sultan2> Any thoughts?
[17:14] <sultan2> /nick sultan2-away
[17:15] <sultan2> It's not working here :-P
[17:15]  * sultan2 away...
[22:40] <Avihay> well, in that specific instance (speedcrunch's menubar), the intent is ОбОЎОдОЋОЉ ОћОцОюОў or ОцОЋОеОъОў ОћОцОюОў
[22:47] <sultan2> ОюОўОбОъОЎ, ОЎОЕ ОюОфОеОњОЮ ОљОф ОћОъОюОЎОћ Format ОљОю ОъОЎОюОћ ОљОЌОеОф ОЕОљОЎОаОћ ОцОЋОеОъОў ОЋОњОЮ Script ОдОеОЎОџ ОюОћОЎОЋОф ОфОАОеОЎОў. "ОфОеОњОЋОЮ" ОЕОћОЋОљ ОюОЋОбОќОЎ ОъОеОъОќ ОЕОћОљОЋОЏОюОЋОАОЎОћ ОћОбОЉОеОЎОф ОћОЎОаОћ ОўОЎОцОЕОћ. ОќОЋ ОќОЎОюОЋОф ОЉОљОЎОўОюОЎОњОаОдОЎОћ ОЋОќОћ ОљОЉОАОЋОеОЊОЎ, ОъОдОЊ ОљОЌОЊ "ОћОљОДОЊОъОЎОћ" ОћОљОаОЋОаОЎОъОЎОф ОљОЋОъОеОф "ОбОю ОљОЋОЊОЋОф" ОЏОЎ ОљОаОЌОаОЋ ОЌОЏОъОЎОЮ ОЋОцОЋОеОъОў ОЋОАОДОеОЎОцОў ОъОЪ ОћОдОЊ ОћОЕ