| poorangus | patdk-lap: Yes, this is 12.04 .. I have researched this extensively and somehow managed to come up empty | 00:22 |
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| poorangus | patdk-lap: Would you happen to have a link to the resolution? | 00:23 |
| poorangus | patdk-lap: Which list? | 00:24 |
| patdk-lap | the postfix maillist | 00:24 |
| poorangus | patdk-lap: I'm sorry, there appears to be several. Can you please be more specific? | 00:26 |
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| poorangus | patdk-lap: wait, think I found it .. smtpd_tls_exclude_ciphers = AES ?? | 00:27 |
| patdk-lap | no idea, I know the issue is with openssl 1.x, and there was a programming patch to work around/fix it | 00:33 |
| patdk-lap | dunno if there was a config adjustment to help or not | 00:33 |
| wolferz | I just installed ubuntu server, I need a gui for setting some things up. I installed xinit and e17, but when I startx, there are no system settings, package managers, or anything else at all... Also, my entire sdb drive is forbidden to access... Does anyone have some guidance for me? | 00:33 |
| patdk-lap | wolferz, try #ubuntu? we don't do gui here | 00:33 |
| wolferz | no one has a gui on their server? ...... wow | 00:34 |
| poorangus | wolferz: while you're headed over there, run this: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop | 00:34 |
| poorangus | but no, typically a server would not involve any GUI | 00:34 |
| patdk-lap | hehe, even windows has dropped gui for servers | 00:35 |
| wolferz | I don't want a constant gui, I just need one to set the server up | 00:35 |
| wolferz | won't ubuntu-desktop use unnessecary resources? | 00:36 |
| wolferz | and open up security issues? | 00:36 |
| poorangus | yes, that's why it would normally be excluded | 00:36 |
| poorangus | if you want something lighter try this: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop | 00:37 |
| poorangus | still not recommended though | 00:37 |
| wolferz | I just don't know how to set it up using cli | 00:37 |
| poorangus | join the club, buddy! | 00:37 |
| wolferz | lol, how'd you manage without the gui? | 00:38 |
| patdk-lap | vi, bash, maybe even rsync | 00:38 |
| poorangus | I used the patch | 00:39 |
| poorangus | and the gum | 00:39 |
| wolferz | lol | 00:39 |
| poorangus | I did hit a road bump, that's why I'm here .. but hopefully our man @patdk-lap just resolved it. | 00:40 |
| poorangus | Re-installing now and then I shall see. | 00:40 |
| mariooo | hi all. I'm working on upsizing an LVM pv, however after a reboot i've been dropped to an initramfs shell, and unsure how to remount the disk..? | 01:00 |
| mariooo | I know it's /dev/xvda5, ext3/4, and that's about it | 01:01 |
| mariooo | I ended up here because before reboot fdisk claimed my device needed a new disklabel built, so I let fdisk do that | 01:01 |
| mariooo | http://pastie.org/private/yb9z8tid9hv6z0uotjryq | 01:03 |
| poorangus | No!!! | 01:10 |
| poorangus | patdk-lap: That didn't work. | 01:10 |
| patdk-lap | hmm? | 01:10 |
| poorangus | The "smtpd_tls_exclude_ciphers = AES" solution from the Postfix list. | 01:10 |
| patdk-lap | heh, didn't think it would | 01:10 |
| poorangus | But this is the resolution you were referring to, right? | 01:12 |
| patdk-lap | no | 01:13 |
| patdk-lap | the solution is a patch | 01:13 |
| patdk-lap | that means recompiling postfix | 01:13 |
| BentFranklin | What's the right way to populate my resolv.conf these days? | 01:45 |
| owh | Salutations. I have an 8.04.4 server which shows that overnight my log went from May 17 23:42:01 to May 17 16:53:58 - that's right, backwards in time. The May 17 16:53:58 entry is a reboot. When I connected to it, the time was wrong by just under 12 hours. The server is a VMware guest. The underlying host SAN went down around the time of the reboot. Can someone point me in any direction please? My google-fu is not what it is supposed to be and I've never | 01:50 |
| mardraum | BentFranklin: /etc/network/interfaces, dns-* options like dns-nameservers dns-search | 01:51 |
| twb | owh: hardware clock set to UTC? | 01:52 |
| twb | Oh, VMware. | 01:52 |
| mardraum | your vm may be getting time from the host. fix that, and use ntp properly. | 01:52 |
| twb | owh: try #vmware; when it runs in a VM, normal timekeeping procedures no longer apply. | 01:53 |
| twb | mardraum: ...in particular, you're supposed to use vmware guest stuff instead of NTP, IIRC | 01:53 |
| hallyn | kees: CAP_SYS_ADMIN should be required, yes, by kernel/nsproxy.c | 01:53 |
| mardraum | twb: I disagree, but whatever works for you :D | 01:53 |
| mardraum | (note I didn't say *where* to fix ntp) | 01:54 |
| owh | The machine is using the ntp pool. There are no vmware tools installed. | 01:55 |
| owh | Hmm. What if I look at this differently. What if the machine went down at 23:42 and came back up with the wrong time. | 01:55 |
| BentFranklin | mardraum: Ok thanks, that's where I have it. | 01:56 |
| owh | That would account for this. | 01:56 |
| * owh breathes a sigh of relief. | 01:56 | |
| patdk-lap | correct your esxi ntp service to get time | 01:57 |
| owh | patdk-lap: You mean the host right? | 01:58 |
| owh | (Rather than the guest which is my server.) | 01:58 |
| twb | mardraum: "no longer apply" in the sense that if you install ntp on the guest in the hope of protecting it from vmware brokenness, it fails catastrophically | 01:58 |
| mardraum | haven't heard of this failure you are talking about | 01:59 |
| twb | The reason it's a VM and not a jail is because it's supposed to emulate hardware correctly, such that the guest doesn't know or care that it's in a VM in the first place. vmware people violate this by telling you to *not* run ntp inside teh guest, but to instead rely on the vmware guest tools and to only install ntp on the host. | 02:00 |
| twb | ...at least, that is what I remember, and I remember being very annoyed at them. That was a few years back; I run KVM these days. | 02:00 |
| owh | Hmm. Locally in my own environment I run ntp to the host, never had any issues. | 02:02 |
| twb | Shrug. Oh well. | 02:04 |
| owh | Thanks all. I'm poking the host provider in the eye with a pointy marsupial. | 02:06 |
| twb | I prefer monotremes. | 02:07 |
| owh | And some of those come with pre-made spikes, excellent. A Monotreme it is :) | 02:08 |
| twb | owh: the platypus has a stinging barb, too | 02:09 |
| patdk-lap | heh? you can easily run ntp in a guest, if you do it right | 02:13 |
| patdk-lap | but I mean someone must have failed to configure the esxi host ntp | 02:13 |
| twb | No argument about the latter | 02:13 |
| owh | Yeah, that is what I'm thinking too - now that I have a scenario that I can understand :) | 02:16 |
| owh | twb: Sorry for the delay, but the image that I thought existed online didn't - now it does: http://demo.itmaze.com.au/australian_animals.jpg | 02:21 |
| owh | (It's like the punch-line of a joke being translated from English to Portugese to Batak and back.) | 02:25 |
| KXTwo | This might be out of the range of this # but i'm not sure where else I'd ask. I got my server up and running and have been trying to learn network tools. I installed nmap and it picks up all the devices on the network but my phone. Is there a reason for that? | 05:25 |
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| Zanzacar | I have apache2 installed, I have tried to uninstall it and all the config files but I have failed | 07:39 |
| Zanzacar | I tried to do sudo apt-get --purge remove apache2 but they persist | 07:40 |
| Mischinka | hmm | 07:43 |
| SpamapS | Zanzacar: some aren't owned by 'apache2' | 07:47 |
| SpamapS | Zanzacar: dpkg -S /etc/apache2 | 07:47 |
| SpamapS | Zanzacar: that will show you what packages own the files, from there, you can purge those packages too | 07:47 |
| Mischinka | SpamapS i believe its a setting in my nginx, but i in my shopping cart when i go to the last area (checkout) the button seems to loop to the same page | 07:52 |
| Mischinka | Where would i look to fix this. | 07:52 |
| Zanzacar | thanks SpamapS I think that will take care of everythign | 07:52 |
| SpamapS | Mischinka: sorry, I'm very tired and about to fall asleep | 07:57 |
| nibalizer | so reading about upstart, and getting confused, it says(and i've verified) you can use /sbin/start and /sbin/stop, which is bizare to me since both are symlinks to initctl | 09:13 |
| nibalizer | can someone shed light on this | 09:13 |
| nibalizer | is like ARGV[0] the name of the file called and somehow this is acted upon | 09:14 |
| adac | what is the correct command to create a system user, an user that is created for to start an application only | 09:14 |
| nibalizer | adac: you can use useradd/adduser | 09:14 |
| nibalizer | but if you want a mysql user, the mysql package should create a user for you | 09:14 |
| Daviey | jamespage: thanks for doing the samba merge. | 09:47 |
| jamespage | Daviey, np | 09:47 |
| jamespage | I needed todo an SRU for it anyway :-) | 09:47 |
| Daviey | jamespage: Odd, 'Colin' noticed the issue in Ubuntu.. but 'Clin' noticed it in Debian. :) | 09:48 |
| jamespage | lol | 09:52 |
| Mischinka | how do i get rid of: identity of this website has not been verified | 10:07 |
| Tm_T | Mischinka: by buying proper cert? (if that's what you're asking) | 10:08 |
| iSeeDeadPixels | Hello, who has experience with MAAS? | 10:33 |
| Daviey | jamespage: you don't fancy doing a re-merge of samba from sid, do you? :) .. | 10:33 |
| jamespage | Daviey, can do | 10:34 |
| Daviey | iSeeDeadPixels: Quite a few people. | 10:34 |
| Daviey | iSeeDeadPixels: We don't maintain an extensive list, as we just don't know who exaclty.. the list would probably be too long. | 10:34 |
| iSeeDeadPixels | Daviey, do you have experience with it? | 10:36 |
| iSeeDeadPixels | because it's such an annoying thing to set up. | 10:36 |
| iSeeDeadPixels | python errors EVERYWHERE | 10:36 |
| Daviey | iSeeDeadPixels: I do.. | 10:37 |
| iSeeDeadPixels | Daviey, i have a error when i run maas test, import oauth failed | 10:38 |
| iSeeDeadPixels | and when i want to Commission & Accept i get an internal server error (Can't find a thingy /etc/maas/comm..." because of a missing "/" at the beginning) | 10:38 |
| iSeeDeadPixels | ValidationError: [u'Commissioning script is missing: etc/maas/commissioning-user-data'] | 10:40 |
| Daviey | iSeeDeadPixels: Can you describe how you got to where you are? | 10:42 |
| iSeeDeadPixels | i installed MaaS server via a 12.04 Unetbootin thumbdrive | 10:42 |
| iSeeDeadPixels | and then i ran maas-import-isos | 10:42 |
| iSeeDeadPixels | So yeah, i really hoped it would be better than this, did you have any problems Daviey? | 10:45 |
| jamespage | Daviey: is there any etiquette I should be following before uploaded an large number of no-change rebuilds? | 10:55 |
| iSeeDeadPixels | Daviey ? | 11:09 |
| Daviey | jamespage: how many? | 11:10 |
| Daviey | and what for? | 11:10 |
| Daviey | iSeeDeadPixels: Hey, it's not an issue i've seen... you used the cd menu option to install? | 11:11 |
| iSeeDeadPixels | Daviey, yes | 11:12 |
| Daviey | iSeeDeadPixels: i've done this same process 100's of times without issue.. So something is odd.. the on;y difference i can see frm what you have said, is that i didn't use unetbootin | 11:14 |
| iSeeDeadPixels | hmmm... | 11:14 |
| jamespage | Daviey: pitti answered my question in -devel - around ~90 for the Java7 transition | 11:15 |
| iSeeDeadPixels | Daviey http://pastebin.com/P3S0w7mF | 11:19 |
| iSeeDeadPixels | Daviey: http://pastebin.com/vE6LFDQi | 11:23 |
| iSeeDeadPixels | Daviey, http://pastebin.com/s7RxLHYp | 11:25 |
| iSeeDeadPixels | i'm now installing MaaS on a VM | 11:27 |
| iSeeDeadPixels | if it works i know i am gonna grab a CD | 11:27 |
| Daviey | iSeeDeadPixels: This is really odd... *Something* is different.. but i don't really have enough info to say what.. | 11:31 |
| Daviey | It's not an issue i'd previously heard of. | 11:31 |
| iSeeDeadPixels | Daviey, i wanted to show wy employer that MaaS would be better than RHEV | 11:32 |
| iSeeDeadPixels | this kinda... meh | 11:32 |
| Daviey | iSeeDeadPixels: you know MAAS isn't directly for virtualisation? | 11:39 |
| iSeeDeadPixels | Daviey, i assume you can use MaaS in combination with Xen? | 11:40 |
| Daviey | iSeeDeadPixels: no, it's not for that.. it's for providing metal on demand.. Xen isn't metal :) | 11:41 |
| iSeeDeadPixels | uhm. | 11:42 |
| iSeeDeadPixels | explain me more | 11:42 |
| Daviey | iSeeDeadPixels: you can use MAAS to deploy Openstack for example, which provides virtualisation.. | 11:42 |
| Daviey | but an Ovirt / VmWare style tool, MAAS isn't. | 11:42 |
| iSeeDeadPixels | the ni will use maas for openstack | 11:42 |
| Daviey | ni? | 11:42 |
| Daviey | ah | 11:42 |
| iSeeDeadPixels | but what is "metal" then, blank servers? | 11:43 |
| Daviey | iSeeDeadPixels: Have you explored the difference between oVirt and OpenStack btw? | 11:43 |
| Daviey | iSeeDeadPixels: Well, Ubuntu Servers.. with a meta-data service, and an API exposed to them. | 11:43 |
| Daviey | iSeeDeadPixels: power control and commissioning / burn-in etc. | 11:44 |
| iSeeDeadPixels | Daviey, dynamically adding and removing servers? | 11:44 |
| iSeeDeadPixels | because, if i can use MaaS to distribute the load between the machines for VM'ing, it'd be awesome | 11:45 |
| Daviey | that is the intent.. plug in a new server, and it comes part of the pool, automagicaly. | 11:45 |
| iSeeDeadPixels | can i create a "node" image and let MaaS use that? | 11:46 |
| iSeeDeadPixels | e.g. a openstack configured image | 11:46 |
| iSeeDeadPixels | and no, i don't know the difference between oVirt and OpenStack | 11:47 |
| iSeeDeadPixels | but i want something close to RHEV, for free. | 11:47 |
| Daviey | iSeeDeadPixels: A private cloud, Openstack is like Amazon's cloud. oVirt is more similar to VMware, for managing virtual machines. | 11:48 |
| Daviey | My view is that a 'cloud' scales better.. :) | 11:48 |
| iSeeDeadPixels | then i want Openstack | 11:49 |
| iSeeDeadPixels | but the whole idea is that i can put a server in the rack, and that i connect the lan, wan and power, and then it should automatically install, configure and be added to the cloud | 11:50 |
| brainysmurf | My ubuntu box mounts a afp share served by a Mac; I need that dir writeable by www-data. Has anyone done this? What do I do with acl on the Mac side to get this to work? | 11:50 |
| iSeeDeadPixels | i also want VM-Load balancing | 11:50 |
| iSeeDeadPixels | so that the VM's get evenly distributed between machines, and if i give a VM priority it should get more resources. | 11:52 |
| iSeeDeadPixels | dynamically scaled VM's | 11:53 |
| iSeeDeadPixels | if it uses more CPU, give it more CPU | 11:53 |
| twb | brainysmurf: what does the dir look like (ls -ld) on the linux side, at present? | 11:53 |
| iSeeDeadPixels | if it uses more Mem, give it more mem | 11:53 |
| brainysmurf | twb: owned by root, world access | 11:54 |
| twb | brainysmurf: is the AFP share kerberized? | 11:54 |
| Daviey | iSeeDeadPixels: you are looking for features which don't normally go in hand with a cloud. | 11:55 |
| iSeeDeadPixels | well, the CPU and Mem scaling isn't really important | 11:55 |
| brainysmurf | twb: NOt sure how an afp share is kerberized, but there is OD on that share I think | 11:55 |
| twb | What is "OD"? | 11:55 |
| iSeeDeadPixels | as long as the VM's get distributed over multiple machines | 11:56 |
| Daviey | iSeeDeadPixels: a well designed application for the cloud (imo), should just expect failure.. if you need to resize, you kill the machine, and start a new one.. The application shouldn't be impacted. | 11:56 |
| brainysmurf | Open Directory | 11:56 |
| iSeeDeadPixels | Daviey, i just want the VM's to be distributed, i assume that when you use a cloud that the memory and cpu power is combined as one machine? | 11:57 |
| Daviey | no | 11:57 |
| twb | brainysmurf: you perhaps want to chgrp on the apple side to www-data's numeric group | 11:57 |
| twb | brainysmurf: otherwise you need to make the user/group mappings line up, or fiddle with kerberos | 11:58 |
| brainysmurf | twb: Do you mean chgrp to www-data's gid? | 11:58 |
| iSeeDeadPixels | ugh... | 11:58 |
| twb | brainysmurf: yes | 11:58 |
| twb | brainysmurf: or of course use something else, e.g. SFTP | 11:58 |
| twb | The webserver should not, in general, be writing files | 11:59 |
| brainysmurf | twb: Investigated that, apparently OD shares have to be afp according to colleague | 11:59 |
| iSeeDeadPixels | Daviey, well, how can i do what i want then? | 11:59 |
| Daviey | iSeeDeadPixels: i think you need to spec out what your application needs, then find the right tool for the job. | 11:59 |
| twb | Oh, apparenty "Open Directory" is an LDAP server. | 12:00 |
| twb | You should speak LDAP to it | 12:00 |
| iSeeDeadPixels | Daviey, Xen | 12:00 |
| brainysmurf | Wait, I can mount an LDAP? | 12:00 |
| twb | No | 12:00 |
| Daviey | iSeeDeadPixels, Your application needs Xen? | 12:01 |
| twb | You write LDIFs, which are the LDAP equivalent of HTTP requests | 12:01 |
| iSeeDeadPixels | Daviey, the application IS xen | 12:02 |
| brainysmurf | twb: Wow that would be slick | 12:02 |
| brainysmurf | Didn't even realize you can write to LDAP | 12:02 |
| iSeeDeadPixels | i am going to build VM's for hosting and other tasks, i want to be able to distribute the VM's evenly over the machines | 12:02 |
| twb | Uh, LDAP is basically a database | 12:03 |
| twb | you query it and make changes and so on | 12:03 |
| Daviey | iSeeDeadPixels: In which case you might want XCP | 12:04 |
| iSeeDeadPixels | yeah... | 12:04 |
| iSeeDeadPixels | but can i still use MaaS or is that not needed then? | 12:04 |
| Daviey | iSeeDeadPixels: I really need to get back to work, but i suggest doing further research before settling on something.. and/or speaking to Canonical professional services, or similar. | 12:05 |
| brainysmurf | twb Hmm... but it has to look like a directory on the hard drive, the moodle and php need that | 12:05 |
| twb | Don't use PHP | 12:05 |
| Daviey | iSeeDeadPixels: Nobody i know of has done it, but technically you could use MAAS to deploy XCP, i think. | 12:05 |
| twb | http://me.veekun.com/blog/2012/04/09/php-a-fractal-of-bad-design/ | 12:06 |
| brainysmurf | Totally agreed; I'm a pythonista myself. No choice, though. Don't worry, I'm slowly getting my client to plone instead of moodle | 12:07 |
| Daviey | jamespage: I've just uploaded a new cifs-utils that will depwait on your new, new samba.. thanks muchly. | 12:07 |
| jamespage | Daviey, have I not uploaded that yet? | 12:07 |
| jamespage | oh - no | 12:07 |
| brainysmurf | twb: I don't have a user with same gid as www-data on linux, does this mean I just make one? | 12:10 |
| twb | brainysmurf: if it is not kerberized, apple doesn't need the group to exist, it just needs the file to be grouped to that gid | 12:12 |
| twb | The resolution of uids/gids to usernames/group names is not needed for anything except humans -- same as IPs don't need hostnames to work | 12:13 |
| jamespage | Daviey: just uploaded | 12:14 |
| Daviey | ta! | 12:14 |
| brainysmurf | So i chgrp'd it to 33 and it reads "33" when I list; that is all? Great explanation, by the way. | 12:14 |
| RoyK | brainysmurf: just add the user to the www-data group | 12:17 |
| faizanaziz | hi…. my server has solr installed… I keep getting too many files open error…. I google and found out that I need to increase ulimit… however even when i change it the process ulimit does not change…. Even after restarting the process | 12:18 |
| jamespage | faizanaziz, how are you altering the ulimit? | 12:25 |
| faizanaziz | ulimit -n 100000 | 12:25 |
| jamespage | faizanaziz, OK - let me ask that a different way | 12:25 |
| jamespage | how are you running solr? | 12:25 |
| jamespage | on tomcat? jetty? | 12:25 |
| faizanaziz | jetty | 12:25 |
| jamespage | faizanaziz, so are you using the standard solr-jetty package? | 12:26 |
| jamespage | and restarting the process using the init script? | 12:26 |
| faizanaziz | no… its a solr-jetty recipe from the solr wiki | 12:26 |
| faizanaziz | yep…. i restart using the init script | 12:27 |
| faizanaziz | this is the setup i am using http://wiki.apache.org/solr/SolrJetty | 12:28 |
| twb | faizanaziz: you should apt-get install the supported package | 12:29 |
| faizanaziz | twb: thats the legacy 1.4 package we are using 3.6 | 12:30 |
| twb | Tough | 12:31 |
| faizanaziz | hmmm :( | 12:31 |
| zul | good morning | 12:35 |
| brainysmurf | I think this afp share is kerberorized as www-data still can't write to it. Also just noticed that there's acl permissions in the directory listning | 12:36 |
| brainysmurf | *listing | 12:36 |
| twb | brainysmurf: might be worth askign ##macosx as well | 12:37 |
| brainysmurf | Thanks twb | 12:47 |
| zul | hallyn: upated libvirt in the usual place | 12:54 |
| hallyn | zul: ok, thx. i'd like to figure out this initscripts debacle first | 12:58 |
| zul | hallyn: k | 12:59 |
| Merlin83b | Oh, was trying to join #ubuntu-cloud! | 13:11 |
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| Pici | Merlin83b: #ubuntu-cloud forwards here. | 13:13 |
| Merlin83b | So I see. I guess we can just talk cloud things here then. | 13:14 |
| Merlin83b | Like why on my new cloud live install I'm getting lots of errors about the dashboard being unable to retrieve lists of volumes. | 13:14 |
| tash | anyone here used virtuabox on Ubuntu Server before? As in a virtual machine host, to create individual virtual machines? | 13:31 |
| iSeeDeadPixels | how do i install MaaS with PXE boot on a network with Existing DHCP? | 13:54 |
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| eagles0513875 | hey guys I'm running an upgraded 12.04 with xen | 14:07 |
| eagles0513875 | and I'm gavin tissues when i boot onto the xen kernel that it doesn't load kde as well as it randomly reboots for some reason :( | 14:08 |
| iSeeDeadPixels | ok, i'm having a dnsmasq issue along with maas (maas-dhcp) | 14:11 |
| iSeeDeadPixels | it won't stick to eth0 | 14:11 |
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| sarthor | HI, how can install java on 12.04 server? | 15:55 |
| RoyK | !java | 15:55 |
| ubottu | To just use java you need a "Java Runtime Environment" (JRE) and/or a browser plugin. If that is not sufficient you will need a "Java Development Kit" (JDK) aka "Software Development Kit" (SDK). Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java about how to install one of three current implementations. | 15:55 |
| chmac | What's the apt-get command to upgrade to a new lts? | 16:18 |
| patdk-lap | from? | 16:19 |
| chmac | 10.04 to 12.04 | 16:19 |
| patdk-lap | you never upgrade between releases using apt-get | 16:19 |
| patdk-lap | I would recommend waiting for 12.04.1 | 16:19 |
| patdk-lap | but you use do-release-upgrade | 16:20 |
| chmac | patdk-lap: When does 12.04.1 land? | 16:20 |
| chmac | Hmm, no do-release-upgrade on this machine, it's an openvz image, so could be more complicated. | 16:20 |
| patdk-lap | well, it does help to install it | 16:21 |
| chmac | patdk-lap: I need t install do-release-upgrade? `apt-get install do-release-upgrade` says package not found... | 16:22 |
| LordOfTime | its in update-manager-core | 16:23 |
| LordOfTime | [kahless]% apt-file search do-release-upgrade | 16:24 |
| LordOfTime | update-manager-core: /usr/bin/do-release-upgrade | 16:24 |
| patdk-lap | it's all explained in the release notes | 16:25 |
| patdk-lap | that you did read didn't you? | 16:25 |
| patdk-lap | cause if you didn't, your likely in for some big suprises | 16:25 |
| * LordOfTime assumes not | 16:25 | |
| LordOfTime | speaking of which, i should reread the release notes | 16:26 |
| LordOfTime | :P | 16:26 |
| LordOfTime | yep, thought so | 16:28 |
| chmac | Hmm, `do-release-upgrade -d` finds precise, but `do-release-upgrade` does not. | 16:30 |
| patdk-lap | also explained :) | 16:30 |
| chmac | Outstanding, download times quoted for a 56k modem :-) | 16:31 |
| LordOfTime | chmac: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuServer#Upgrade | 16:31 |
| LordOfTime | you should read the rest of the release notes as well :) | 16:31 |
| chmac | LordOfTime: It's a brand new machine, a test vm, so I'm not too concerned, there's nothing to lose, but yes, reading the release notes is probably not a bad idea at some point, thanks for the link. | 16:32 |
| LordOfTime | mhm | 16:32 |
| LordOfTime | chmac: its all explained in the release notes :) | 16:32 |
| chmac | patdk-lap: Thanks a lot for your help, I appreciate it. | 16:33 |
| iSeeDeadPixels | who can help me with setting up MaaS with a existing DHCP server? | 17:01 |
| e_t_ | iSeeDeadPixels: it might be helpful to describe what's involved in "setting up MaaS with a existing DHCP server." Are there particular steps you're stuck on? | 17:04 |
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| iSeeDeadPixels | e_t_ i'm stuck on the part where you PXE boot, and get the ISO's from the TFTP server (192.168.11.4) | 17:12 |
| iSeeDeadPixels | the DHCP server is on 192.168.11.3 | 17:12 |
| genii-around | Do you have something like: next-server 192.168.11.4 set in the dhcpd.conf ? | 17:14 |
| ninjai | using ubuntu server 11.0, why is SSH 5.8 still in the repo's when SSH 5.9 and 6.0 are out? How can I upgrade to SSH 6? | 17:37 |
| iSeeDeadPixels_ | genii-around, thanks for the tip, it's working ^_^ | 17:39 |
| genii-around | iSeeDeadPixels_: You're welcome | 17:39 |
| iSeeDeadPixels_ | it should be added to the wiki | 17:40 |
| iSeeDeadPixels_ | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/MAAS/ see? | 17:41 |
| genii-around | Wiki page updated. | 18:03 |
| RoyK | wtf - trying to install ubuntu server precise from usb fails, 'fails to mount cdrom' | 18:17 |
| KM0201 | RoyK: thats a common problem... there's instructions on how to install ubuntu server from CD rom (i can't remember exactly what to do.. but google should turn it up) | 18:21 |
| negone | Hello I am trying to setup ubuntu server 12.04 for the first time and im running into some problems | 18:21 |
| KM0201 | RoyK: what tool did you use to create the USB | 18:21 |
| KM0201 | negone: i saw your question in #ubuntu, what exact problem are you having? | 18:22 |
| negone | I( cant seem to get past the partiion disks part | 18:22 |
| negone | i want one drive setup on a raid0 to host the os and the other 5 set up on a raid 5 to be the data base and so forth | 18:23 |
| KM0201 | ok | 18:23 |
| KM0201 | are the current raid 5 drives blank? | 18:23 |
| negone | all of them are blank | 18:23 |
| KM0201 | hmm | 18:23 |
| KM0201 | i've never set up a raid 5, so i can't help you there. | 18:23 |
| RoyK | KM0201: that windows tool | 18:23 |
| negone | the raid 5 is set i just need to partition them | 18:23 |
| RoyK | usually works well, and mounting the usb thing works too, but it still complains | 18:24 |
| KM0201 | RoyK: yes, i know that... i've had issues w/ ubuntu's usb creator and ubuntu server... you can try unetbootin, but i suspect you'll have the same issues. | 18:24 |
| negone | KM0201 i tried to follow these directions but i keep getting problems https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/serverguide/advanced-installation.html | 18:24 |
| * RoyK gets out an old-school DVD disc and burns the thing | 18:25 | |
| KM0201 | negone: what do you mean you need to partition the raid 5? | 18:25 |
| negone | in the setup process it asks me to partition the disks | 18:25 |
| KM0201 | right. | 18:25 |
| negone | thats my problem im not sure what to do here haha | 18:26 |
| RoyK | negone: first of all, don't run raid-0 unless you know what dataloss costs | 18:26 |
| KM0201 | hmm, negone are you new to ubuntu? (just curious) | 18:26 |
| RoyK | negone: second, don't use raid-0 | 18:26 |
| negone | ubuntu server i am | 18:26 |
| RoyK | negone: third, use raid-0 only when you know the havoc of getting your data back | 18:26 |
| KM0201 | RoyK: he's only using the "OS" drive as raid 0 | 18:26 |
| negone | first time i ever setup a server | 18:26 |
| KM0201 | negone: what are you using your home server for? | 18:26 |
| RoyK | KM0201: doesn't matter - striped disks are evil by default | 18:26 |
| RoyK | use mirrors or nothing | 18:27 |
| negone | i am a web developer | 18:27 |
| RoyK | for os disks | 18:27 |
| KM0201 | RoyK: i tend to agree.. | 18:27 |
| KM0201 | just saying. | 18:27 |
| RoyK | negone: then just do a base install, it uses a single drive and that's fine | 18:27 |
| negone | well the website for this is going to be big really big | 18:27 |
| RoyK | negone: then, if you want to store data on that system, create a mirror or a raid-[56] | 18:27 |
| negone | ecommerce | 18:28 |
| RoyK | negone: I'm managing systems with a few hundred drives - they die all the time | 18:28 |
| RoyK | all drives die | 18:28 |
| KM0201 | lol | 18:28 |
| RoyK | like people ;) | 18:28 |
| negone | haha | 18:28 |
| RoyK | seriously | 18:29 |
| RoyK | never ever trust a single drive | 18:29 |
| negone | this is how my boss wants it set up im just trying to get it done | 18:29 |
| negone | he wants one drive as a raid 0 with just the os and the others raid 5 | 18:29 |
| RoyK | tell your boss he's out of his mind | 18:29 |
| RoyK | a single drive isn't raid-0 | 18:29 |
| negone | im just trying to get past the partision end of the install for ubuntu | 18:29 |
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| RoyK | negone: raid-[056] support isn't in grub | 18:30 |
| RoyK | negone: so use a mirror or a single drive | 18:30 |
| negone | well my head hurts already what should i do? i have 6 drives to work with and we want it to be as fast as posible | 18:31 |
| negone | accepting any suggestions | 18:31 |
| RoyK | negone: what size of those drives_ | 18:32 |
| RoyK | ? | 18:32 |
| negone | the raid 0 is 73 gig and the raid 5 is 586 gig | 18:32 |
| RoyK | ok, by raid-0, is that a raid controller exporting that? | 18:33 |
| negone | yes | 18:33 |
| RoyK | then your raid-0 is a single drive, but both are seen as single drives from ubuntu, right? | 18:34 |
| negone | yes | 18:34 |
| negone | in the partision menu it just shows up as 2 drives | 18:35 |
| * RoyK reinstalls his home server on SSD :D | 18:40 | |
| negone | haha | 18:40 |
| negone | i just need to get to the part where im most useful *coding* | 18:40 |
| negone | and thats after the os is installed apache the works | 18:41 |
| esuave | is there a way to rsync the output of a grep? example.. grep -irl 'test' * | rsync outputted filenames from grep? | 18:41 |
| RoyK | SSD for the root only, some 2TB drives for the data | 18:43 |
| negone | RoyK talk me like i just downloaded ubuntu server yesterday | 18:44 |
| negone | cause i did :) | 18:45 |
| RoyK | negone: heh - been running ubuntu for some five years, linux since 1994 or so | 18:46 |
| RoyK | sorry if I was hard on you | 18:47 |
| negone | its ok | 18:48 |
| negone | its a real learning curve when your just starting | 18:48 |
| negone | there is no real instructions its expect you to nkow what everything is | 18:48 |
| negone | guh i cant typer | 18:48 |
| negone | LOL | 18:49 |
| * RoyK just needs to reconnect those eight or so 2TB drives | 18:49 | |
| RoyK | think my record was 5-6 minutes for a debian server install - ubuntu is a bit slower | 18:51 |
| negone | I really need to get this up by today | 18:52 |
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| RoyK | negone: please ask if there's a problem. the docs usually aren't written for newbies, and that's bad | 18:56 |
| cedr | RoyK: Mine was ~30 seconds, although that was with openvz :P | 19:00 |
| negone | well im just trying to figure out this partition thing | 19:03 |
| negone | i just dont know how to partition it to make it work | 19:03 |
| negone | i keep running into problems and it tells me to fix it | 19:04 |
| genii-around | negone: Are you trying to resize some old Windows partition? If so and it has not been marked clean by a filesystem check done from inside windows, it will not let you resize it. | 19:12 |
| negone | no | 19:14 |
| negone | rgw partition disk part of installing ubuntu 12.04 | 19:14 |
| negone | the* | 19:14 |
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| zul | hallyn: around/ | 19:15 |
| esuave | how do i know what version of php is compatible with what version of openssl? | 19:16 |
| hallyn | zul: what's up? | 19:16 |
| zul | hallyn: have you seen: "libvir: QEMU error : internal error unable to execute QEMU command 'device_add': Duplicate ID 'virtio-disk0' for device" | 19:16 |
| genii-around | negone: There is a pretty comprehensive page on the subject at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoPartition | 19:17 |
| hallyn | zul: is that happening after you disconnect and then reconnect a device? | 19:17 |
| zul | hallyn: just attaching the disk device | 19:17 |
| zul | i have a disk that is alias to virtio-disk0 for some reason | 19:18 |
| hallyn | any other virtio disks in the xml? | 19:18 |
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| zul | hallyn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/994714/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/994716/ | 19:19 |
| hallyn | zul: well you're asking it to be assigned to xvda, what if you do xvdc? | 19:21 |
| negone | im doing this from the install window | 19:21 |
| negone | so i dont have a lot of options | 19:21 |
| negone | nore can i even use a mouse | 19:21 |
| hallyn | zul: or really, just get rid of the 'dev="xvda"' in the blockdev one | 19:21 |
| genii-around | negone: The information for how much to use, how much for swap, etc is still valid. | 19:22 |
| zul | hallyn: blah...nm i suck | 19:22 |
| hallyn | zul: ? | 19:25 |
| zul | hallyn: i was using xvda | 19:25 |
| hallyn | ok :) | 19:25 |
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| RoyK | ? | 19:44 |
| RoyK | s/^.*//g | 19:44 |
| zastaph_ | what to do if you have an equals sign in a samba password? seems not to work to put password=mypass=123 in .smbcredentials | 20:01 |
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| sarthor | Hi, I have running a computer shop, Accessories sale / Windows / software installation, Very small shop and a very small business, I want to install some Linux based Free software that can handly my invoicing , accessories detail and daily cash record, I will like the software that have Server and Client, Any idea brothers? | 20:53 |
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| sarthor | Hi, I have running a computer shop, Accessories sale / Windows / software installation, Very small shop and a very small business, I want to install some Linux based Free software that can handly my invoicing , accessories detail and daily cash record, I will like the software that have Server and Client, Any idea brothers? | 21:11 |
| genii-around | sarthor: lemonpos may be close to what you need | 21:17 |
| sarthor | genii-around, has that server and client? | 21:18 |
| genii-around | sarthor: It can run standalone, or as server-client model | 21:18 |
| stgraber | hallyn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/994956/ | 21:44 |
| stgraber | hallyn: that's generated by http://paste.ubuntu.com/994957/ | 21:44 |
| carwatt | hello | 21:44 |
| carwatt | guys | 21:44 |
| carwatt | i have this trouble | 21:44 |
| carwatt | error at dev volgroup00 logvol00 | 21:44 |
| hallyn | stgraber: i'm just not sure that's in the end going to be more robust than the ioctl-based one :) | 21:44 |
| carwatt | how oto repair it? | 21:45 |
| carwatt | i run fsck -y | 21:45 |
| carwatt | but didnt work | 21:45 |
| axisys | how do prevent users from seeing other users' process(es) ? | 21:45 |
| hallyn | stgraber: btw, my initscripts patch works great for debootstrap, but i'm not 100% convinced that it'll work right for upgrade i.e. from lucid to precise in a chroot | 21:45 |
| stgraber | hallyn: lucid => precise doesn't quite work anyway because of the mounts in /dev and /lib/init | 21:45 |
| hallyn | oh? then maybe i should just live with it and be happy? :) | 21:46 |
| hallyn | stgraber: oh on second look, no, your scripts does look better. since ip netns does the right things for you. looks good | 21:46 |
| stgraber | the only release we can reasonably upgrade from, inside a container, is precise | 21:46 |
| hallyn | in a container. but what about crazy ppl with a chroot? | 21:46 |
| hallyn | maybe i shouldn't care | 21:46 |
| stgraber | hmm, indeed, some people may try to upgrade from outside the container, which "might" work | 21:47 |
| hallyn | upgrade inside a container (btw) isn't actually affected because it is detected as '! ischroot' | 21:47 |
| hallyn | which is fine, it's what we want, bc there will be a proper shutdown. | 21:48 |
| stgraber | hallyn: yeah, the shell script doesn't do direct calls to liblxc and doesn't mess with mounts or anything like that, so it should be safer than lxc-ip. I'm still hoping to one day be able to do "lxc-info -n my-container | grep ^ip" :) | 21:48 |
| hallyn | heh, don't hope. we'll make it happen :) | 21:49 |
| stgraber | hallyn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/994996/ | 22:04 |
| stgraber | hallyn: fixed a few race conditions in the process | 22:04 |
| koolhead17 | hey zul | 22:05 |
| koolhead17 | hello everyone | 22:05 |
| stgraber | hallyn: looking at exactly what lxc-start-ephemeral needs, I'll probably change the function a little so we don't need to parse its output, should make it much smaller and more readable for an SRU | 22:09 |
| hallyn | stgraber: yeah that makes sense | 22:13 |
| hallyn | hey koolhead17 | 22:14 |
| koolhead17 | hallyn, hello there sir. :) | 22:15 |
| stgraber | hallyn: is lxc-start-ephemeral supposed to be working as a regular user? it's giving me quite a few error messages here unless I run it through sudo | 22:21 |
| hallyn | stgraber: no, it can't currently work unprivileged | 22:21 |
| hallyn | stgraber: they had wanted it to call sudo itself so you don't have to, but then some places do "x > y", and you can't really do "sudo x > y" | 22:22 |
| stgraber | hallyn: right, should be easy enough to fix with tee though | 22:26 |
| stgraber | hallyn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/995034/ seems to work here | 22:28 |
| tmt1020 | Would anyone happen to have experience using CloudStack with Ubuntu server and KVM? | 22:37 |
| koolhead17 | tmt1020, does cloudstack works/pkg in general for 12.04 | 22:38 |
| hallyn | stgraber: sudo a | tee b, b is unprivileged no? | 22:39 |
| stgraber | hallyn: yes, but I used a | sudo tee b >/dev/null | 22:39 |
| hallyn | not in that pastebin you didn't | 22:39 |
| tmt1020 | koolhead17, I'm sorry, I'm still getting familiar with Unix/Linux. Are you asking if CloudStack has a pre-built package for 12.04? | 22:40 |
| stgraber | hallyn: gah, I did for one and forgot the two others ;) | 22:40 |
| koolhead17 | tmt1020, yes | 22:40 |
| stgraber | hallyn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/995043/ :) | 22:40 |
| tmt1020 | They do have a download for Ubuntu in general on their open-source download page. Everything seems to be working correctly, except I'm having trouble adding my KVM host machine (which is running Ubuntu 64-bit 12.04) to the management server. | 22:41 |
| hallyn | stgraber: looks good :) I'm outta here, good night | 22:42 |
| koolhead17 | tmt1020, you should probability check out #cloudstack | 22:43 |
| stgraber | hallyn: good night | 22:43 |
| koolhead17 | hallyn, night :) | 22:44 |
| tmt1020 | koolhead17, Gotcha. I posted a message there, I just haven't gotten a response yet. I thought someone here might have some experience with. But I'll check the #cloudstack channel again in the morning and see if I've gotten a response. I appreciate your help! | 22:44 |
| koolhead17 | tmt1020, np :_ | 22:44 |
| koolhead17 | tmt1020, you might like to try openstack as well if your evaluating cloudy stuff :) | 22:45 |
| tmt1020 | koolhead17, sounds good. (: I had taken a quick look at it the other day and made a mental note to give it a try next. My main goal at the moment is to get a setup working with a successful failover in case one of the physical VM host machines fails. It looks like openstack would accomplish that goal as well. | 22:51 |
| koolhead17 | :) | 22:52 |
| jMCg | By default, is there anything that caches passwd entries? | 22:54 |
| Dead_AssClown | hey how do you delete windows vista os | 23:30 |
| mysteriousdarren | Dead_AssClown: delete the partition and repartition it, or delete the files if your gonna boot a different OS | 23:32 |
| Dead_AssClown | i need step by step help lol | 23:33 |
| mysteriousdarren | Dead_AssClown: what OS are you running? | 23:36 |
| Dead_AssClown | ubuntu | 23:36 |
| mysteriousdarren | do you have gparted installed? are you going to dual-boot? | 23:36 |
| Dead_AssClown | its dual-boot right now, do i really need vista, does it slow down my computer? | 23:37 |
| Dead_AssClown | im not a big gamer | 23:37 |
| Dead_AssClown | i dont use adobe | 23:37 |
| mysteriousdarren | I deleted vista and kept xp until 7 came out. | 23:38 |
| mysteriousdarren | this question is better suited for #ubuntu | 23:39 |
| Dead_AssClown | newb question right here....i started writing code, whats the best program for linux? | 23:41 |
| mysteriousdarren | Dead_AssClown: what language? | 23:41 |
| Dead_AssClown | i want to stick with ruby | 23:41 |
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| Dead_AssClown | downloading ruby from terminal | 23:45 |
| === e2b04836|away is now known as e2b04836 | ||
| Dead_AssClown | wat does the program 'yum' do | 23:52 |
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