[00:22] <poorangus> patdk-lap: Yes, this is 12.04 .. I have researched this extensively and somehow managed to come up empty
[00:23] <poorangus> patdk-lap: Would you happen to have a link to the resolution?
[00:24] <poorangus> patdk-lap: Which list?
[00:24] <patdk-lap> the postfix maillist
[00:26] <poorangus> patdk-lap: I'm sorry, there appears to be several. Can you please be more specific?
[00:27] <poorangus> patdk-lap: wait, think I found it .. smtpd_tls_exclude_ciphers = AES ??
[00:33] <patdk-lap> no idea, I know the issue is with openssl 1.x, and there was a programming patch to work around/fix it
[00:33] <patdk-lap> dunno if there was a config adjustment to help or not
[00:33] <wolferz> I just installed ubuntu server, I need a gui for setting some things up. I installed xinit and e17, but when I startx, there are no system settings, package managers, or anything else at all... Also, my entire sdb drive is forbidden to access... Does anyone have some guidance for me?
[00:33] <patdk-lap> wolferz, try #ubuntu? we don't do gui here
[00:34] <wolferz> no one has a gui on their server? ...... wow
[00:34] <poorangus> wolferz: while you're headed over there, run this: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[00:34] <poorangus> but no, typically a server would not involve any GUI
[00:35] <patdk-lap> hehe, even windows has dropped gui for servers
[00:35] <wolferz> I don't want a constant gui, I just need one to set the server up
[00:36] <wolferz> won't ubuntu-desktop use unnessecary resources?
[00:36] <wolferz> and open up security issues?
[00:36] <poorangus> yes, that's why it would normally be excluded
[00:37] <poorangus> if you want something lighter try this: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[00:37] <poorangus> still not recommended though
[00:37] <wolferz> I just don't know how to set it up using cli
[00:37] <poorangus> join the club, buddy!
[00:38] <wolferz> lol, how'd you manage without the gui?
[00:38] <patdk-lap> vi, bash, maybe even rsync
[00:39] <poorangus> I used the patch
[00:39] <poorangus> and the gum
[00:39] <wolferz> lol
[00:40] <poorangus> I did hit a road bump, that's why I'm here .. but hopefully our man @patdk-lap just resolved it.
[00:40] <poorangus> Re-installing now and then I shall see.
[01:00] <mariooo> hi all. I'm working on upsizing an LVM pv, however after a reboot i've been dropped to an initramfs shell, and unsure how to remount the disk..?
[01:01] <mariooo> I know it's /dev/xvda5, ext3/4, and that's about it
[01:01] <mariooo> I ended up here because before reboot fdisk claimed my device needed a new disklabel built, so I let fdisk do that
[01:03] <mariooo> http://pastie.org/private/yb9z8tid9hv6z0uotjryq
[01:10] <poorangus> No!!!
[01:10] <poorangus> patdk-lap: That didn't work.
[01:10] <patdk-lap> hmm?
[01:10] <poorangus> The "smtpd_tls_exclude_ciphers = AES" solution from the Postfix list.
[01:10] <patdk-lap> heh, didn't think it would
[01:12] <poorangus> But this is the resolution you were referring to, right?
[01:13] <patdk-lap> no
[01:13] <patdk-lap> the solution is a patch
[01:13] <patdk-lap> that means recompiling postfix
[01:45] <BentFranklin> What's the right way to populate my resolv.conf these days?
[01:50] <owh> Salutations. I have an 8.04.4 server which shows that overnight my log went from  May 17 23:42:01 to May 17 16:53:58 - that's right, backwards in time. The May 17 16:53:58 entry is a reboot. When I connected to it, the time was wrong by just under 12 hours. The server is a VMware guest. The underlying host SAN went down around the time of the reboot. Can someone point me in any direction please? My google-fu is not what it is supposed to be and I've never 
[01:51] <mardraum> BentFranklin: /etc/network/interfaces, dns-* options like dns-nameservers dns-search
[01:52] <twb> owh: hardware clock set to UTC?
[01:52] <twb> Oh, VMware.
[01:52] <mardraum> your vm may be getting time from the host. fix that, and use ntp properly.
[01:53] <twb> owh: try #vmware; when it runs in a VM, normal timekeeping procedures no longer apply.
[01:53] <twb> mardraum: ...in particular, you're supposed to use vmware guest stuff instead of NTP, IIRC
[01:53] <hallyn> kees: CAP_SYS_ADMIN should be required, yes, by kernel/nsproxy.c
[01:53] <mardraum> twb: I disagree, but whatever works for you :D
[01:54] <mardraum> (note I didn't say *where* to fix ntp)
[01:55] <owh> The machine is using the ntp pool. There are no vmware tools installed.
[01:55] <owh> Hmm. What if I look at this differently. What if the machine went down at 23:42 and came back up with the wrong time.
[01:56] <BentFranklin> mardraum: Ok thanks, that's where I have it.
[01:56] <owh> That would account for this.
[01:56]  * owh breathes a sigh of relief.
[01:57] <patdk-lap> correct your esxi ntp service to get time
[01:58] <owh> patdk-lap: You mean the host right?
[01:58] <owh> (Rather than the guest which is my server.)
[01:58] <twb> mardraum: "no longer apply" in the sense that if you install ntp on the guest in the hope of protecting it from vmware brokenness, it fails catastrophically
[01:59] <mardraum> haven't heard of this failure you are talking about
[02:00] <twb> The reason it's a VM and not a jail is because it's supposed to emulate hardware correctly, such that the guest doesn't know or care that it's in a VM in the first place.  vmware people violate this by telling you to *not* run ntp inside teh guest, but to instead rely on the  vmware guest tools and to only install ntp on the host.
[02:00] <twb> ...at least, that is what I remember, and I remember being very annoyed at them.  That was a few years back; I run KVM these days.
[02:02] <owh> Hmm. Locally in my own environment I run ntp to the host, never had any issues.
[02:04] <twb> Shrug.  Oh well.
[02:06] <owh> Thanks all. I'm poking the host provider in the eye with a pointy marsupial.
[02:07] <twb> I prefer monotremes.
[02:08] <owh> And some of those come with pre-made spikes, excellent. A Monotreme it is :)
[02:09] <twb> owh: the platypus has a stinging barb, too
[02:13] <patdk-lap> heh? you can easily run ntp in a guest, if you do it right
[02:13] <patdk-lap> but I mean someone must have failed to configure the esxi host ntp
[02:13] <twb> No argument about the latter
[02:16] <owh> Yeah, that is what I'm thinking too - now that I have a scenario that I can understand :)
[02:21] <owh> twb: Sorry for the delay, but the image that I thought existed online didn't - now it does: http://demo.itmaze.com.au/australian_animals.jpg
[02:25] <owh> (It's like the punch-line of a joke being translated from English to Portugese to Batak and back.)
[05:25] <KXTwo> This might be out of the range of this # but i'm not sure where else I'd ask. I got my server up and running and have been trying to learn network tools.  I installed nmap and it picks up all the devices on the network but my phone.  Is there a reason for that?
[07:39] <Zanzacar> I have apache2 installed, I have tried to uninstall it and all the config files but I have failed
[07:40] <Zanzacar> I tried to do sudo apt-get --purge remove apache2 but they persist
[07:43] <Mischinka> hmm
[07:47] <SpamapS> Zanzacar: some aren't owned by 'apache2'
[07:47] <SpamapS> Zanzacar: dpkg -S /etc/apache2
[07:47] <SpamapS> Zanzacar: that will show you what packages own the files, from there, you can purge those packages too
[07:52] <Mischinka> SpamapS i believe its a setting in my nginx, but i in my shopping cart when i go to the last area (checkout) the button seems to loop to the same page
[07:52] <Mischinka> Where would i look to fix this.
[07:52] <Zanzacar> thanks SpamapS I think that will take care of everythign
[07:57] <SpamapS> Mischinka: sorry, I'm very tired and about to fall asleep
[09:13] <nibalizer> so reading about upstart, and getting confused, it says(and i've verified) you can use /sbin/start and /sbin/stop, which is bizare to me since both are symlinks to initctl
[09:13] <nibalizer> can someone shed light on this
[09:14] <nibalizer> is like ARGV[0] the name of the file called and somehow this is acted upon
[09:14] <adac> what is the correct command to create a system user, an user that is created for to start an application only
[09:14] <nibalizer> adac: you can use useradd/adduser
[09:14] <nibalizer> but if you want a mysql user, the mysql package should create a user for you
[09:47] <Daviey> jamespage: thanks for doing the samba merge.
[09:47] <jamespage> Daviey, np
[09:47] <jamespage> I needed todo an SRU for it anyway :-)
[09:48] <Daviey> jamespage: Odd, 'Colin' noticed the issue in Ubuntu.. but 'Clin' noticed it in Debian. :)
[09:52] <jamespage> lol
[10:07] <Mischinka> how do i get rid of: identity of this website has not been verified
[10:08] <Tm_T> Mischinka: by buying proper cert? (if that's what you're asking)
[10:33] <iSeeDeadPixels> Hello, who has experience with MAAS?
[10:33] <Daviey> jamespage: you don't fancy doing a re-merge of samba from sid, do you? :) ..
[10:34] <jamespage> Daviey, can do
[10:34] <Daviey> iSeeDeadPixels: Quite a few people.
[10:34] <Daviey> iSeeDeadPixels: We don't maintain an extensive list, as we just don't know who exaclty.. the list would probably be too long.
[10:36] <iSeeDeadPixels> Daviey, do you have experience with it?
[10:36] <iSeeDeadPixels> because it's such an annoying thing to set up.
[10:36] <iSeeDeadPixels> python errors EVERYWHERE
[10:37] <Daviey> iSeeDeadPixels: I do..
[10:38] <iSeeDeadPixels> Daviey, i have a error when i run maas test, import oauth failed
[10:38] <iSeeDeadPixels> and when i want to Commission & Accept i get an internal server error (Can't find a thingy /etc/maas/comm..." because of a missing "/" at the beginning)
[10:40] <iSeeDeadPixels> ValidationError: [u'Commissioning script is missing: etc/maas/commissioning-user-data']
[10:42] <Daviey> iSeeDeadPixels: Can you describe how you got to where you are?
[10:42] <iSeeDeadPixels> i installed MaaS server via a 12.04 Unetbootin thumbdrive
[10:42] <iSeeDeadPixels> and then i ran maas-import-isos
[10:45] <iSeeDeadPixels> So yeah, i really hoped it would be better than this, did you have any problems Daviey?
[10:55] <jamespage> Daviey: is there any etiquette I should be following before uploaded an large number of no-change rebuilds?
[11:09] <iSeeDeadPixels> Daviey ?
[11:10] <Daviey> jamespage: how many?
[11:10] <Daviey> and what for?
[11:11] <Daviey> iSeeDeadPixels: Hey, it's not an issue i've seen... you used the cd menu option to install?
[11:12] <iSeeDeadPixels> Daviey, yes
[11:14] <Daviey> iSeeDeadPixels: i've done this same process 100's of times without issue.. So something is odd.. the on;y difference i can see frm what you have said, is that i didn't use unetbootin
[11:14] <iSeeDeadPixels> hmmm...
[11:15] <jamespage> Daviey: pitti answered my question in -devel - around ~90 for the Java7 transition
[11:19] <iSeeDeadPixels> Daviey http://pastebin.com/P3S0w7mF
[11:23] <iSeeDeadPixels> Daviey: http://pastebin.com/vE6LFDQi
[11:25] <iSeeDeadPixels> Daviey, http://pastebin.com/s7RxLHYp
[11:27] <iSeeDeadPixels> i'm now installing MaaS on a VM
[11:27] <iSeeDeadPixels> if it works i know i am gonna grab a CD
[11:31] <Daviey> iSeeDeadPixels: This is really odd... *Something* is different.. but i don't really have enough info to say what..
[11:31] <Daviey> It's not an issue i'd previously heard of.
[11:32] <iSeeDeadPixels> Daviey, i wanted to show wy employer that MaaS would be better than RHEV
[11:32] <iSeeDeadPixels> this kinda... meh
[11:39] <Daviey> iSeeDeadPixels: you know MAAS isn't directly for virtualisation?
[11:40] <iSeeDeadPixels> Daviey, i assume you can use MaaS in combination with Xen?
[11:41] <Daviey> iSeeDeadPixels: no, it's not for that.. it's for providing metal on demand.. Xen isn't metal :)
[11:42] <iSeeDeadPixels> uhm.
[11:42] <iSeeDeadPixels> explain me more
[11:42] <Daviey> iSeeDeadPixels: you can use MAAS to deploy Openstack for example, which provides virtualisation..
[11:42] <Daviey> but an Ovirt / VmWare style tool, MAAS isn't.
[11:42] <iSeeDeadPixels> the ni will use maas for openstack
[11:42] <Daviey> ni?
[11:42] <Daviey> ah
[11:43] <iSeeDeadPixels> but what is "metal" then, blank servers?
[11:43] <Daviey> iSeeDeadPixels: Have you explored the difference between oVirt and OpenStack btw?
[11:43] <Daviey> iSeeDeadPixels: Well, Ubuntu Servers.. with a meta-data service, and an API exposed to them.
[11:44] <Daviey> iSeeDeadPixels: power control and commissioning / burn-in etc.
[11:44] <iSeeDeadPixels> Daviey, dynamically adding and removing servers?
[11:45] <iSeeDeadPixels> because, if i can use MaaS to distribute the load between the machines for VM'ing, it'd be awesome
[11:45] <Daviey> that is the intent.. plug in a new server, and it comes part of the pool, automagicaly.
[11:46] <iSeeDeadPixels> can i create a "node" image and let MaaS use that?
[11:46] <iSeeDeadPixels> e.g. a openstack configured image
[11:47] <iSeeDeadPixels> and no, i don't know the difference between oVirt and OpenStack
[11:47] <iSeeDeadPixels> but i want something close to RHEV, for free.
[11:48] <Daviey> iSeeDeadPixels: A private cloud, Openstack is like Amazon's cloud.  oVirt is more similar to VMware, for managing virtual machines.
[11:48] <Daviey> My view is that a 'cloud' scales better.. :)
[11:49] <iSeeDeadPixels> then i want Openstack
[11:50] <iSeeDeadPixels> but the whole idea is that i can put a server in the rack, and that i connect the lan, wan and power, and then it should automatically install, configure and be added to the cloud
[11:50] <brainysmurf> My ubuntu box mounts a afp share served by a Mac; I need that dir writeable by www-data. Has anyone done this? What do I do with acl on the Mac side to get this to work?
[11:50] <iSeeDeadPixels> i also want VM-Load balancing
[11:52] <iSeeDeadPixels> so that the VM's get evenly distributed between machines, and if i give a VM priority it should get more resources.
[11:53] <iSeeDeadPixels> dynamically scaled VM's
[11:53] <iSeeDeadPixels> if it uses more CPU, give it more CPU
[11:53] <twb> brainysmurf: what does the dir look like (ls -ld) on the linux side, at present?
[11:53] <iSeeDeadPixels> if it uses more Mem, give it more mem
[11:54] <brainysmurf> twb: owned by root, world access
[11:54] <twb> brainysmurf: is the AFP share kerberized?
[11:55] <Daviey> iSeeDeadPixels: you are looking for features which don't normally go in hand with a cloud.
[11:55] <iSeeDeadPixels> well, the CPU and Mem scaling isn't really important
[11:55] <brainysmurf> twb: NOt sure how an afp share is kerberized, but there is OD on that share I think
[11:55] <twb> What is "OD"?
[11:56] <iSeeDeadPixels> as long as the VM's get distributed over multiple machines
[11:56] <Daviey> iSeeDeadPixels: a well designed application for the cloud (imo), should just expect failure.. if you need to resize, you kill the machine, and start a new one.. The application shouldn't be impacted.
[11:56] <brainysmurf> Open Directory
[11:57] <iSeeDeadPixels> Daviey, i just want the VM's to be distributed, i assume that when you use a cloud that the memory and cpu power is combined as one machine?
[11:57] <Daviey> no
[11:57] <twb> brainysmurf: you perhaps want to chgrp on the apple side to www-data's numeric group
[11:58] <twb> brainysmurf: otherwise you need to make the user/group mappings line up, or fiddle with kerberos
[11:58] <brainysmurf> twb: Do you mean chgrp to www-data's gid?
[11:58] <iSeeDeadPixels> ugh...
[11:58] <twb> brainysmurf: yes
[11:58] <twb> brainysmurf: or of course use something else, e.g. SFTP
[11:59] <twb> The webserver should not, in general, be writing files
[11:59] <brainysmurf> twb: Investigated that, apparently OD shares have to be afp according to colleague
[11:59] <iSeeDeadPixels> Daviey, well, how can i do what i want then?
[11:59] <Daviey> iSeeDeadPixels: i think you need to spec out what your application needs, then find the right tool for the job.
[12:00] <twb> Oh, apparenty "Open Directory" is an LDAP server.
[12:00] <twb> You should speak LDAP to it
[12:00] <iSeeDeadPixels> Daviey, Xen
[12:00] <brainysmurf> Wait, I can mount an LDAP?
[12:00] <twb> No
[12:01] <Daviey>  iSeeDeadPixels, Your application needs Xen?
[12:01] <twb> You write LDIFs, which are the LDAP equivalent of HTTP requests
[12:02] <iSeeDeadPixels> Daviey, the application IS xen
[12:02] <brainysmurf> twb: Wow that would be slick
[12:02] <brainysmurf> Didn't even realize you can write to LDAP
[12:02] <iSeeDeadPixels> i am going to build VM's for hosting and other tasks, i want to be able to distribute the VM's evenly over the machines
[12:03] <twb> Uh, LDAP is basically a database
[12:03] <twb> you query it and make changes and so on
[12:04] <Daviey> iSeeDeadPixels:  In which case you might want XCP
[12:04] <iSeeDeadPixels> yeah...
[12:04] <iSeeDeadPixels> but can i still use MaaS or is that not needed then?
[12:05] <Daviey> iSeeDeadPixels: I really need to get back to work, but i suggest doing further research before settling on something.. and/or speaking to Canonical professional services, or similar.
[12:05] <brainysmurf> twb Hmm... but it has to look like a directory on the hard drive, the moodle and php need that
[12:05] <twb> Don't use PHP
[12:05] <Daviey> iSeeDeadPixels: Nobody i know of has done it, but technically you could use MAAS to deploy XCP, i think.
[12:06] <twb> http://me.veekun.com/blog/2012/04/09/php-a-fractal-of-bad-design/
[12:07] <brainysmurf> Totally agreed; I'm a pythonista myself. No choice, though. Don't worry, I'm slowly getting my client to plone instead of moodle
[12:07] <Daviey> jamespage: I've just uploaded a new cifs-utils that will depwait on your new, new samba.. thanks muchly.
[12:07] <jamespage> Daviey, have I not uploaded that yet?
[12:07] <jamespage> oh - no
[12:10] <brainysmurf> twb: I don't have a user with same gid as www-data on linux, does this mean I just make one?
[12:12] <twb> brainysmurf: if it is not kerberized, apple doesn't need the group to exist, it just needs the file to be grouped to that gid
[12:13] <twb> The resolution of uids/gids to usernames/group names is not needed for anything except humans -- same as IPs don't need hostnames to work
[12:14] <jamespage> Daviey: just uploaded
[12:14] <Daviey> ta!
[12:14] <brainysmurf> So i chgrp'd it to 33 and it reads "33" when I list; that is all? Great explanation, by the way.
[12:17] <RoyK> brainysmurf: just add the user to the www-data group
[12:18] <faizanaziz> hi…. my server has solr installed… I keep getting too many files open error…. I google and found out that I need to increase ulimit… however even when i change it the process ulimit does not change…. Even after restarting the process
[12:25] <jamespage> faizanaziz, how are you altering the ulimit?
[12:25] <faizanaziz> ulimit -n 100000
[12:25] <jamespage> faizanaziz, OK - let me ask that a different way
[12:25] <jamespage> how are you running solr?
[12:25] <jamespage> on tomcat? jetty?
[12:25] <faizanaziz> jetty
[12:26] <jamespage> faizanaziz, so are you using the standard solr-jetty package?
[12:26] <jamespage> and restarting the process using the init script?
[12:26] <faizanaziz> no… its a solr-jetty recipe from the solr wiki
[12:27] <faizanaziz> yep…. i restart using the init script
[12:28] <faizanaziz> this is the setup i am using http://wiki.apache.org/solr/SolrJetty
[12:29] <twb> faizanaziz: you should apt-get install the supported package
[12:30] <faizanaziz> twb: thats the legacy 1.4 package we are using 3.6
[12:31] <twb> Tough
[12:31] <faizanaziz> hmmm :(
[12:35] <zul> good morning
[12:36] <brainysmurf> I think this afp share is kerberorized as www-data still can't write to it. Also just noticed that there's acl permissions in the directory listning
[12:36] <brainysmurf> *listing
[12:37] <twb> brainysmurf: might be worth askign ##macosx as well
[12:47] <brainysmurf> Thanks twb
[12:54] <zul> hallyn: upated libvirt in the usual place
[12:58] <hallyn> zul: ok, thx.  i'd like to figure out this initscripts debacle first
[12:59] <zul> hallyn: k
[13:11] <Merlin83b> Oh, was trying to join #ubuntu-cloud!
[13:13] <Pici> Merlin83b: #ubuntu-cloud forwards here.
[13:14] <Merlin83b> So I see.  I guess we can just talk cloud things here then.
[13:14] <Merlin83b> Like why on my new cloud live install I'm getting lots of errors about the dashboard being unable to retrieve lists of volumes.
[13:31] <tash> anyone here used virtuabox on Ubuntu Server before?  As in a virtual machine host, to create individual virtual machines?
[13:54] <iSeeDeadPixels> how do i install MaaS with PXE boot on a network with Existing DHCP?
[14:07] <eagles0513875> hey guys I'm running an upgraded 12.04 with xen
[14:08] <eagles0513875> and I'm gavin tissues when i boot onto the xen kernel that it doesn't load kde as well as it randomly reboots for some reason :(
[14:11] <iSeeDeadPixels> ok, i'm having a dnsmasq issue along with maas (maas-dhcp)
[14:11] <iSeeDeadPixels> it won't stick to eth0
[15:55] <sarthor> HI, how can install java on 12.04 server?
[15:55] <RoyK> !java
[16:18] <chmac> What's the apt-get command to upgrade to a new lts?
[16:19] <patdk-lap> from?
[16:19] <chmac> 10.04 to 12.04
[16:19] <patdk-lap> you never upgrade between releases using apt-get
[16:19] <patdk-lap> I would recommend waiting for 12.04.1
[16:20] <patdk-lap> but you use do-release-upgrade
[16:20] <chmac> patdk-lap: When does 12.04.1 land?
[16:20] <chmac> Hmm, no do-release-upgrade on this machine, it's an openvz image, so could be more complicated.
[16:21] <patdk-lap> well, it does help to install it
[16:22] <chmac> patdk-lap: I need t install do-release-upgrade? `apt-get install do-release-upgrade` says package not found...
[16:23] <LordOfTime> its in update-manager-core
[16:24] <LordOfTime> [kahless]% apt-file search do-release-upgrade
[16:24] <LordOfTime> update-manager-core: /usr/bin/do-release-upgrade
[16:25] <patdk-lap> it's all explained in the release notes
[16:25] <patdk-lap> that you did read didn't you?
[16:25] <patdk-lap> cause if you didn't, your likely in for some big suprises
[16:25]  * LordOfTime assumes not
[16:26] <LordOfTime> speaking of which, i should reread the release notes
[16:26] <LordOfTime> :P
[16:28] <LordOfTime> yep, thought so
[16:30] <chmac> Hmm, `do-release-upgrade -d` finds precise, but `do-release-upgrade` does not.
[16:30] <patdk-lap> also explained :)
[16:31] <chmac> Outstanding, download times quoted for a 56k modem :-)
[16:31] <LordOfTime> chmac:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuServer#Upgrade
[16:31] <LordOfTime> you should read the rest of the release notes as well :)
[16:32] <chmac> LordOfTime: It's a brand new machine, a test vm, so I'm not too concerned, there's nothing to lose, but yes, reading the release notes is probably not a bad idea at some point, thanks for the link.
[16:32] <LordOfTime> mhm
[16:32] <LordOfTime> chmac:  its all explained in the release notes :)
[16:33] <chmac> patdk-lap: Thanks a lot for your help, I appreciate it.
[17:01] <iSeeDeadPixels> who can help me with setting up MaaS with a existing DHCP server?
[17:04] <e_t_> iSeeDeadPixels: it might be helpful to describe what's involved in "setting up MaaS with a existing DHCP server." Are there particular steps you're stuck on?
[17:12] <iSeeDeadPixels> e_t_ i'm stuck on the part where you PXE boot, and get the ISO's from the TFTP server (192.168.11.4)
[17:12] <iSeeDeadPixels> the DHCP server is on 192.168.11.3
[17:14] <genii-around> Do you have something like: next-server 192.168.11.4    set in the dhcpd.conf ?
[17:37] <ninjai> using ubuntu server 11.0, why is SSH 5.8 still in the repo's when SSH 5.9 and 6.0 are out? How can I upgrade to SSH 6?
[17:39] <iSeeDeadPixels_> genii-around, thanks for the tip, it's working ^_^
[17:39] <genii-around> iSeeDeadPixels_: You're welcome
[17:40] <iSeeDeadPixels_> it should be added to the wiki
[17:41] <iSeeDeadPixels_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/MAAS/ see?
[18:03] <genii-around> Wiki page updated.
[18:17] <RoyK> wtf - trying to install ubuntu server precise from usb fails, 'fails to mount cdrom'
[18:21] <KM0201> RoyK: thats a common problem... there's instructions on how to install ubuntu server from CD rom (i can't remember exactly what to do.. but google should turn it up)
[18:21] <negone> Hello I am trying to setup ubuntu server 12.04 for the first time and im running into some problems
[18:21] <KM0201> RoyK: what tool did you use to create the USB
[18:22] <KM0201> negone: i saw your question in #ubuntu, what exact problem are you having?
[18:22] <negone> I( cant seem to get past the partiion disks part
[18:23] <negone>  i want one drive setup on a raid0 to host the os and the other 5 set up on a raid 5 to be the data base and so forth
[18:23] <KM0201> ok
[18:23] <KM0201> are the current raid 5 drives blank?
[18:23] <negone> all of them are blank
[18:23] <KM0201> hmm
[18:23] <KM0201> i've never set up a raid 5, so i can't help you there.
[18:23] <RoyK> KM0201: that windows tool
[18:23] <negone> the raid 5 is set i just need to partition them
[18:24] <RoyK> usually works well, and mounting the usb thing works too, but it still complains
[18:24] <KM0201> RoyK: yes, i know that... i've had issues w/ ubuntu's usb creator and ubuntu server... you can try unetbootin, but i suspect you'll have the same issues.
[18:24] <negone> KM0201 i tried to follow these directions but i keep getting problems https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/serverguide/advanced-installation.html
[18:25]  * RoyK gets out an old-school DVD disc and burns the thing
[18:25] <KM0201> negone: what do you mean you need to partition the raid 5?
[18:25] <negone> in the setup process it asks me to partition the disks
[18:25] <KM0201> right.
[18:26] <negone> thats my problem im not sure what to do here haha
[18:26] <RoyK> negone: first of all, don't run raid-0 unless you know what dataloss costs
[18:26] <KM0201> hmm, negone are you new to ubuntu? (just curious)
[18:26] <RoyK> negone: second, don't use raid-0
[18:26] <negone> ubuntu server i am
[18:26] <RoyK> negone: third, use raid-0 only when you know the havoc of getting your data back
[18:26] <KM0201> RoyK: he's only using the "OS" drive as raid 0
[18:26] <negone> first time i ever setup a server
[18:26] <KM0201> negone: what are you using your home server for?
[18:26] <RoyK> KM0201: doesn't matter - striped disks are evil by default
[18:27] <RoyK> use mirrors or nothing
[18:27] <negone> i am a web developer
[18:27] <RoyK> for os disks
[18:27] <KM0201> RoyK: i tend to agree..
[18:27] <KM0201> just saying.
[18:27] <RoyK> negone: then just do a base install, it uses a single drive and that's fine
[18:27] <negone> well the website for this is going to be big really big
[18:27] <RoyK> negone: then, if you want to store data on that system, create a mirror or a raid-[56]
[18:28] <negone> ecommerce
[18:28] <RoyK> negone: I'm managing systems with a few hundred drives - they die all the time
[18:28] <RoyK> all drives die
[18:28] <KM0201> lol
[18:28] <RoyK> like people ;)
[18:28] <negone> haha
[18:29] <RoyK> seriously
[18:29] <RoyK> never ever trust a single drive
[18:29] <negone> this is how my boss wants it set up im just trying to get it done
[18:29] <negone> he wants one drive as a raid 0 with just the os and the others raid 5
[18:29] <RoyK> tell your boss he's out of his mind
[18:29] <RoyK> a single drive isn't raid-0
[18:29] <negone> im just trying to get past the partision end of the install for ubuntu
[18:30] <RoyK> negone: raid-[056] support isn't in grub
[18:30] <RoyK> negone: so use a mirror or a single drive
[18:31] <negone> well my head hurts already what should i do? i have 6 drives to work with and we want it to be as fast as posible
[18:31] <negone> accepting any suggestions
[18:32] <RoyK> negone: what size of those drives_
[18:32] <RoyK> ?
[18:32] <negone> the raid 0 is 73 gig and the raid 5 is 586 gig
[18:33] <RoyK> ok, by raid-0, is that a raid controller exporting that?
[18:33] <negone> yes
[18:34] <RoyK> then your raid-0 is a single drive, but both are seen as single drives from ubuntu, right?
[18:34] <negone> yes
[18:35] <negone> in the partision menu it just shows up as 2 drives
[18:40]  * RoyK reinstalls his home server on SSD :D
[18:40] <negone> haha
[18:40] <negone> i just need to get to the part where im most useful *coding*
[18:41] <negone> and thats after the os is installed apache the works
[18:41] <esuave> is there a way to rsync the output of a grep? example.. grep -irl 'test' * | rsync outputted filenames from grep?
[18:43] <RoyK> SSD for the root only, some 2TB drives for the data
[18:44] <negone> RoyK talk me like i just downloaded ubuntu server yesterday
[18:45] <negone> cause i did :)
[18:46] <RoyK> negone: heh - been running ubuntu for some five years, linux since 1994 or so
[18:47] <RoyK> sorry if I was hard on you
[18:48] <negone> its ok
[18:48] <negone> its a real learning curve when your just starting
[18:48] <negone> there is no real instructions its expect you to nkow what everything is
[18:48] <negone> guh i cant typer
[18:49] <negone> LOL
[18:49]  * RoyK just needs to reconnect those eight or so 2TB drives
[18:51] <RoyK> think my record was 5-6 minutes for a debian server install - ubuntu is a bit slower
[18:52] <negone> I really need to get this up by today
[18:56] <RoyK> negone: please ask if there's a problem. the docs usually aren't written for newbies, and that's bad
[19:00] <cedr> RoyK: Mine was ~30 seconds, although that was with openvz :P
[19:03] <negone> well im just trying to figure out this partition thing
[19:03] <negone> i just dont know how to partition it to make it work
[19:04] <negone> i keep running into problems and it tells me to fix it
[19:12] <genii-around> negone: Are you trying to resize some old Windows partition? If so and it has not been marked clean by a filesystem check done from inside windows, it will not let you resize it.
[19:14] <negone> no
[19:14] <negone> rgw partition disk part of installing ubuntu 12.04
[19:14] <negone> the*
[19:15] <zul> hallyn: around/
[19:16] <esuave> how do i know what version of php is compatible with what version of openssl?
[19:16] <hallyn> zul: what's up?
[19:16] <zul> hallyn:  have you seen: "libvir: QEMU error : internal error unable to execute QEMU command 'device_add': Duplicate ID 'virtio-disk0' for device"
[19:17] <genii-around> negone: There is a pretty comprehensive page on the subject at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoPartition
[19:17] <hallyn> zul: is that happening after you disconnect and then reconnect a device?
[19:17] <zul> hallyn: just attaching the disk device
[19:18] <zul> i have a disk that is alias to virtio-disk0 for some reason
[19:18] <hallyn> any other virtio disks in the xml?
[19:19] <zul> hallyn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/994714/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/994716/
[19:21] <hallyn> zul: well you're asking it to be assigned to xvda, what if you do xvdc?
[19:21] <negone> im doing this from the install window
[19:21] <negone> so i dont have a lot of options
[19:21] <negone> nore can i even use a mouse
[19:21] <hallyn> zul: or really, just get rid of the 'dev="xvda"' in the blockdev one
[19:22] <genii-around> negone: The information for how much to use, how much for swap, etc is still valid.
[19:22] <zul> hallyn: blah...nm i suck
[19:25] <hallyn> zul: ?
[19:25] <zul> hallyn: i was using xvda
[19:25] <hallyn> ok :)
[19:44] <RoyK> ?
[19:44] <RoyK> s/^.*//g
[20:01] <zastaph_> what to do if you have an equals sign in a samba password? seems not to work to put password=mypass=123 in .smbcredentials
[20:53] <sarthor> Hi, I have running a computer shop, Accessories sale / Windows / software installation, Very small shop and a very small business, I want to install some Linux based Free software that can handly my invoicing , accessories detail and daily cash record, I will like the software that have Server and Client, Any idea brothers?
[21:11] <sarthor> Hi, I have running a computer shop, Accessories sale / Windows / software installation, Very small shop and a very small business, I want to install some Linux based Free software that can handly my invoicing , accessories detail and daily cash record, I will like the software that have Server and Client, Any idea brothers?
[21:17] <genii-around> sarthor: lemonpos may be close to what you need
[21:18] <sarthor> genii-around,  has that server and client?
[21:18] <genii-around> sarthor: It can run standalone, or as server-client model
[21:44] <stgraber> hallyn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/994956/
[21:44] <stgraber> hallyn: that's generated by http://paste.ubuntu.com/994957/
[21:44] <carwatt> hello
[21:44] <carwatt> guys
[21:44] <carwatt> i have this trouble
[21:44] <carwatt> error at dev volgroup00 logvol00
[21:44] <hallyn> stgraber: i'm just not sure that's in the end going to be more robust than the ioctl-based one :)
[21:45] <carwatt> how oto repair it?
[21:45] <carwatt> i run fsck -y
[21:45] <carwatt> but didnt work
[21:45] <axisys> how do prevent users from seeing other users' process(es) ?
[21:45] <hallyn> stgraber: btw, my initscripts patch works great for debootstrap, but i'm not 100% convinced that it'll work right for upgrade i.e. from lucid to precise in a chroot
[21:45] <stgraber> hallyn: lucid => precise doesn't quite work anyway because of the mounts in /dev and /lib/init
[21:46] <hallyn> oh?  then maybe i should just live with it and be happy?  :)
[21:46] <hallyn> stgraber: oh on second look, no, your scripts does look better.  since ip netns does the right things for you.  looks good
[21:46] <stgraber> the only release we can reasonably upgrade from, inside a container, is precise
[21:46] <hallyn> in a container.  but what about crazy ppl with a chroot?
[21:46] <hallyn> maybe i shouldn't care
[21:47] <stgraber> hmm, indeed, some people may try to upgrade from outside the container, which "might" work
[21:47] <hallyn> upgrade inside a container (btw) isn't actually affected because it is detected as '! ischroot'
[21:48] <hallyn> which is fine, it's what we want, bc there will be a proper shutdown.
[21:48] <stgraber> hallyn: yeah, the shell script doesn't do direct calls to liblxc and doesn't mess with mounts or anything like that, so it should be safer than lxc-ip. I'm still hoping to one day be able to do "lxc-info -n my-container | grep ^ip" :)
[21:49] <hallyn> heh, don't hope.  we'll make it happen :)
[22:04] <stgraber> hallyn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/994996/
[22:04] <stgraber> hallyn: fixed a few race conditions in the process
[22:05] <koolhead17> hey zul
[22:05] <koolhead17> hello everyone
[22:09] <stgraber> hallyn: looking at exactly what lxc-start-ephemeral needs, I'll probably change the function a little so we don't need to parse its output, should make it much smaller and more readable for an SRU
[22:13] <hallyn> stgraber: yeah that makes sense
[22:14] <hallyn> hey koolhead17
[22:15] <koolhead17> hallyn, hello there sir. :)
[22:21] <stgraber> hallyn: is lxc-start-ephemeral supposed to be working as a regular user? it's giving me quite a few error messages here unless I run it through sudo
[22:21] <hallyn> stgraber: no, it can't currently work unprivileged
[22:22] <hallyn> stgraber: they had wanted it to call sudo itself so you don't have to, but then some places do "x > y", and you can't really do "sudo x > y"
[22:26] <stgraber> hallyn: right, should be easy enough to fix with tee though
[22:28] <stgraber> hallyn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/995034/ seems to work here
[22:37] <tmt1020> Would anyone happen to have experience using CloudStack with Ubuntu server and KVM?
[22:38] <koolhead17> tmt1020, does cloudstack works/pkg in general for 12.04
[22:39] <hallyn> stgraber: sudo a | tee b, b is unprivileged no?
[22:39] <stgraber> hallyn: yes, but I used a | sudo tee b >/dev/null
[22:39] <hallyn> not in that pastebin you didn't
[22:40] <tmt1020> koolhead17, I'm sorry, I'm still getting familiar with Unix/Linux. Are you asking if CloudStack has a pre-built package for 12.04?
[22:40] <stgraber> hallyn: gah, I did for one and forgot the two others ;)
[22:40] <koolhead17> tmt1020, yes
[22:40] <stgraber> hallyn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/995043/ :)
[22:41] <tmt1020> They do have a download for Ubuntu in general on their open-source download page. Everything seems to be working correctly, except I'm having trouble adding my KVM host machine (which is running Ubuntu 64-bit 12.04) to the management server.
[22:42] <hallyn> stgraber: looks good :)  I'm outta here, good night
[22:43] <koolhead17> tmt1020, you should probability check out #cloudstack
[22:43] <stgraber> hallyn: good night
[22:44] <koolhead17> hallyn, night :)
[22:44] <tmt1020> koolhead17, Gotcha. I posted a message there, I just haven't gotten a response yet. I thought someone here might have some experience with. But I'll check the #cloudstack channel again in the morning and see if I've gotten a response. I appreciate your help!
[22:44] <koolhead17> tmt1020, np :_
[22:45] <koolhead17> tmt1020, you might like to try openstack as well if your evaluating cloudy stuff :)
[22:51] <tmt1020> koolhead17, sounds good. (: I had taken a quick look at it the other day and made a mental note to give it a try next. My main goal at the moment is to get a setup working with a successful failover in case one of the physical VM host machines fails. It looks like openstack would accomplish that goal as well.
[22:52] <koolhead17> :)
[22:54] <jMCg> By default, is there anything that caches passwd entries?
[23:30] <Dead_AssClown> hey how do you delete windows vista os
[23:32] <mysteriousdarren> Dead_AssClown: delete the partition and repartition it, or delete the files if your gonna boot a different OS
[23:33] <Dead_AssClown> i need step by step help lol
[23:36] <mysteriousdarren> Dead_AssClown: what OS are you running?
[23:36] <Dead_AssClown> ubuntu
[23:36] <mysteriousdarren> do you have gparted installed? are you going to dual-boot?
[23:37] <Dead_AssClown> its dual-boot right now, do i really need vista, does it slow down my computer?
[23:37] <Dead_AssClown> im not a big gamer
[23:37] <Dead_AssClown> i dont use adobe
[23:38] <mysteriousdarren> I deleted vista and kept xp until 7 came out.
[23:39] <mysteriousdarren> this question is better suited for #ubuntu
[23:41] <Dead_AssClown> newb question right here....i started writing code, whats the best program for linux?
[23:41] <mysteriousdarren> Dead_AssClown: what language?
[23:41] <Dead_AssClown> i want to stick with ruby
[23:45] <Dead_AssClown> downloading ruby from terminal
[23:52] <Dead_AssClown> wat does the program 'yum' do