[00:49] <AriMartti> any way install ubuntu studio from console / alternate install?
[00:50] <AriMartti> this #¤%#& installer freezes any time i tried it
[00:51] <AriMartti> tried with 'noacpi nolapic' 'acpi=off', both and normal way'
[00:52] <AriMartti> also "live system" or "install ubuntu studio" alternatives
[00:53] <AriMartti> in live system it freezes "Where are you?" dialog in ubiquity, not so interesting logs in /var/log/installer/debug
[00:54] <AriMartti> tried also using ' ubiquity --desktop %k --debug gtk_ui & ' command-line parameters
[00:54] <AriMartti> in plain installer gui it freezes in "importing users" dialog
[00:55] <AriMartti> both way tried to wait over 4 hours in freezed view
[00:55] <holstein> AriMartti: can you get to a live desktop?
[00:56] <holstein> AriMartti: you can install ubuntustudio-desktop from wherever you like
[01:09] <AriMartti> holstein: yes, i'm now downloadin ubuntu official alternate installer
[01:10] <AriMartti> only wonder why there aren't alternative ways to install on live dvd
[01:11] <AriMartti> holstein: yes, i had the live desktop
[01:12] <AriMartti> but no linux installed on hard disk
[01:15] <AriMartti> but maybe that's clear for everyone that i'm so unhappy with that ubuntu studio installer dvd
[01:16] <AriMartti> so let's speak about video capturing
[01:16] <AriMartti> how necessary the real-time kernel is when capturing analog video to hard drivee?
[01:17] <AriMartti> i'm trying to construct perfect budget-class video capturing machine
[01:18] <AriMartti> i already have a PC with 2,3 GHz quad AMD, 8 GB RAM and nVidia GTX7800 GPU
[01:19] <AriMartti> i'm wondering if i need a 64 GB SSD for swap and 3 TB HDD for video data (180 h video in VHS tapes)
[01:20] <licensed> i would like to start with home studio.. i'm in doubt if i install a new linux (ubuntustudio) and keep dual boot, or i modify my ubuntu to work with music
[01:20] <licensed> it's poor haves to change o.s when we wants to do a job
[01:21] <AriMartti> i wish to install only ubuntu studio for that job
[01:21] <AriMartti> so there wouldn't be any other operating systems on that machine
[01:21] <AriMartti> i'm familiar with linux but not with video capturing
[01:22] <licensed> you agree to use ubuntustudio for software developer?
[01:24] <AriMartti> speaking me?
[01:25] <licensed> I work with software developing
[01:25] <licensed> i didn't know if i keep my ubuntu and install a new ubuntustudio
[01:25] <licensed> or if i remove my ubuntu and keep ubuntustudio only (to make all jobs)
[01:26] <AriMartti> i think you can install ubuntu studio without any need to reinstall the whole system
[01:26] <AriMartti> i'm going to install ubuntu now and then ubuntustudio-desktop in it
[01:27] <AriMartti> but as i said, i've never used ubuntu studio, only the live system of it about 3 hours trying install it
[01:28] <Len-nb> licensed, you can add the ubuntustudio-desktop meta package on top of ubuntu. I have not tried this myself but there are some who have.
[01:29] <AriMartti> there should be all dependencies and therefore also all software you would find in your brand new ubuntu studio install
[01:29] <licensed> Len-nb, but when i install this, i will have optimized kernel?
[01:30] <AriMartti> maybe you need to add ubuntustudio repositories in your synaptic or apt variant you like
[01:30] <AriMartti> and there should be the real-time kernel
[01:34] <Len-nb> low latency kernel, not RT. You should not need to add any repositories, ubuntustudio is ubuntu.
[01:38] <AriMartti> ok
[01:38] <Len-nb> If all you want is the kernel it can be added to any buntu on it's own
[01:40] <AriMartti> then, http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/ubuntustudio-desktop
[01:47] <holstein> you can install that or any metapackage in any of the alternate iso
[01:52] <licensed> how can i have rt kernel? i have to install a new ubuntustudio or just a ubuntustudio-desktop package?
[02:11] <holstein> licensed: neither
[02:11] <holstein> you literally install just the kernel
[02:11] <holstein> you can get it from...
[02:12] <holstein> https://launchpad.net/~abogani/+ppa-packages
[02:12] <licensed> ok
[02:12] <holstein> or, you can just install the lowlatency one from the repos
[02:12] <holstein> OR, just try the generic one
[02:12] <holstein> enjoy!
[02:12] <licensed> yes, i understand. thank you
[04:20] <mighty_aboba> Len-dt, do you have RT kernel or lowlatency?
[04:20] <mighty_aboba> Len-dt, Hi :)
[04:20] <Len-nb> low latency.
[04:21] <Len-nb> hi I didn't know I was here :) just walking by the computer...
[04:21] <mighty_aboba> Did you try RT once?
[04:21] <Len-nb> maybe back at version 2.4 or less.