[00:00] L3top, the feature is integrated in KDE 4.5 [00:00] http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Desktop+in+Alt-Tab+Switch?content=124109 [00:01] (I'm using gnome3, no one in there could help me, so i searched elsewhere. I was hoping this was not UI specific) [00:01] lorecaster: aplay -l [00:01] whoa... HDMI is listed now?! [00:01] http://pastebin.com/qpV5VYjy [00:05] lorecaster: almost there [00:06] just trying to find asound.conf on 1204 [00:06] ah different now [00:06] gimme a min [00:06] you take your time. You've been a saint, thus far. === akSeya is now known as Guest11406 [00:08] pastebinit /usr/share/doc/libasound2-plugins/examples/asound.conf_oss === nmmm is now known as nmmm-away [00:08] erg [00:09] thats an example [00:10] darnit... I dont know ANYTHING about how alsa operates now days... we are stuck on .23 [00:11] http://paste.ubuntu.com/995151/ [00:11] lorecaster: I can tell you that you want this http://pastebin.com/YEFi7bwK at the end of what used to be the asound.conf === sergio is now known as Guest53711 [00:13] I'm installing "Default sound card" which was what "asound" returned in ubuntu software centre [00:13] that may provide the files we want [00:13] I will figure out where it went [00:15] always loved a challenge. [00:16] it's in etc, it seems [00:16] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure ick, is this of any use? [00:18] it is there? [00:18] isnt in my 1204s [00:18] thats where it is suppsoed to be [00:18] doesn't appear to be in mine, either [00:18] and it may just be one of those things that once you create it, it defaults [00:19] so dump that little pastebin into a file called asound.conf in /etc [00:19] I've heard of them... I'll gedit one, what would you like there? [00:19] ahh :) beat me to it. [00:19] done [00:20] and I have no idea how to restart the alsa service on precise. phfffff [00:21] :o appears we both have work to do ;) would a system restart or a logout do it? [00:21] sudo alsa reload [00:22] http://pastebin.com/v9DBxA2y [00:23] ahh, shoot. one sec. [00:23] for fun.. speaker-test -Dplug:hdmi [00:23] http://pastebin.com/QdK8F1vq [00:24] IT WORKS!!!! [00:24] You're a god-send! [00:24] well... thats one thing... to get it to test out [00:24] lets see if it plays [00:25] you may have to assign whatever your player is to default to that output [00:25] or... more likely... assign it to whatever your audio mixer control is there in gnome [00:25] still not found in the sound-settings?! [00:25] I use kubu so it would be kmixer [00:26] I wouldnt expect it to be so blatantly labeled [00:26] did I ever get an amixer | pastebinit [00:27] but at least we know the hdmi is recognized and will play a signal... thats a good sign. [00:27] http://paste.ubuntu.com/995164/ [00:28] ok... yeah if you amixer | grep IEC those are your digital outs... the first is more than likely your hdmi [00:29] http://pastebin.com/7eFnsbWT [00:29] and it is unmuted... so I would try and default my output to that in whatever gnome3's mixer control is. [00:29] I really admire you... truely I do. I wishI had your proficiency with a system as complicated as this [00:29] Might check with teh guys in #ubuntu [00:29] * L3top feels like he is stumbling drunk through this lol [00:29] I brought this to their attention, no one had anything to say. You feel as thoug this is a Gnome thing? [00:30] however these problems let me get more familiar with teh changes, as we will be moving to 1204 before too long... so really, you are helping me [00:30] No... I am just unfamiliar with the gnome tools. [00:30] just need to assign our output now that we can push to hdmi I believe [00:30] haha, nice turnabout. yeah, I realize and apologize. the crew at #ubuntu arn't nearly as helpful, historically, as you guys [00:30] and I cant walk you through it [00:31] * L3top is in there too... just like it here better :) [00:31] hermn... [00:31] so what, exactly, would I have to explain to them? I have no idea of half of what we've done. [00:32] Ill do it [00:32] I'm no greenie... but you're above my board, here. [00:32] OH! You take all the fun out of being hopeless! :P [00:36] its just a huge channel... sometimes it takes a while. [00:36] Does chromium when signed in to google sync the eintire wallet to google or just the passwords it put in there? [00:37] no worries. you have my undivided attention, :) [00:44] <_ProtekNickz> L3top: you tried checking Default Audio setting in System Setting? just asking 0_o [00:45] system settings => sound => output and hardware only have "Built-in analog audio" [00:46] firrst thing i checked [00:46] okey doke... [00:46] and in alsamixer f6 switching that and returning... [00:46] does it have digital [00:47] - (defaul), 0 HDA Nvidia, Enter device name... [00:49] ima buy a quadcore macbook (with ubuntu, of course) next semester with a mac monitor... be rid of all this frustration [00:49] lorecaster: drop into #ubuntu, no reason to eat up this irc with it [00:53] hell [00:53] hello [00:54] hey there [00:56] If I here because [00:59] queeeeeeeeeeeeee aburrimientooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo [01:04] vit: It's quiet here when there are no questions about Kubuntu being answered. [01:10] can someone help me find and install a graphics driver? [01:11] caesar_: lspci -nn | grep VGA [01:12] L3top: VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:2a42] (rev 07) [01:13] caesar_: what version kubuntu are you on? [01:13] 10.04 [01:14] i'm getting glitches across my screen [01:14] ok... lets do a couple of things... [01:14] what sort of glitches? [01:15] quick lines flashing across the bottom half of my screen [01:15] and laggy system [01:15] caesar_: update-pciids [01:15] once that is finished run that lspci grep again [01:15] apt-get install libva-driver-i965 [01:16] we can take care of laggy... but glitchy... on 1004... that is worrysome [01:16] worrisome? [01:16] cant spell today. [01:16] update-pciids: /usr/share/misc/pci.ids.new is read-only [01:17] hmmm [01:17] sorry [01:17] sudo update-pciids [01:17] lol [01:17] sudo apt-get install libva-driver-i965 [01:17] I am very bad about remembering sudo, I do most things as root [01:19] caesar@caesar-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install libva-driver-i965 [01:19] Reading package lists... Done [01:19] Building dependency tree [01:19] Reading state information... Done [01:19] E: Couldn't find package libva-driver-i965 [01:19] caesar_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [01:19] sorry [01:19] !info libva-driver-i965 lucid [01:19] Package libva-driver-i965 does not exist in lucid [01:20] i've seen this glitching once before in a windows machine running a generic driver [01:22] Yes, that reeks of a hardware problem caesar_... well it appears you guys dont have that... sorry... I thought that was in standard repos. [01:22] give me just a second [01:23] so you think updating would fix this issue? [01:24] No... I think your hw has problems... [01:24] well that isn't good [01:24] however if you want you can use our acceleration driver... will make it zippier... but I dont expect your glitching is gonna go away [01:25] it's seems to be getting worse and worse [01:26] but on my windows install i never had this issue.. and just switched over like a week ago [01:26] if you add: deb http://deb.linuxmce.org/ubuntu/ lucid beta2 to your /etc/apt/sources.list, sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get install libva-driver-i965 it will work better... but... as I said... smells like immenent hw failure might be in your future... [01:26] i've seen this glitching once before in a windows machine running a generic driver [01:27] is the video card built in to the mother board? [01:27] I misunderstood you then. I thought you were saying THIS machine on windows had a problem [01:27] no not mine.. never before [01:27] mydogsnameisrudy: i believe so yes [01:28] ok if not remove and reseat the card might help [01:28] good call mydogsnameisrudy [01:28] caesar_: can I get the output of lspci -nn | grep VGA again? [01:29] caesar@caesar-laptop:~$ lspci -nn | grep VGA [01:29] 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:2a42] (rev 07) [01:29] unchanged... ok [01:30] caesar_: go ahead and add our repo, do the update, install that driver, remove our repo, update again [01:30] you dont want our versions for other things, might cause conflicts [01:30] i'm just gonna update to latest version [01:31] lts is up this year anyway right? [01:31] do not upgrade/dist-upgrade with our repo enabled. ONLY do sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install libva-driver-i965 [01:31] i clean install when i do [01:31] i dont like any reminince of other os === kubuntu is now known as Guest13092 [02:18] when i shut kubuntu 12.04 down at night it stops at "starting CUPS printing spooler/severityypted block devices [ok]". It wont shut down. then i do ctrl+shift+F5 to get to a login screen and the shutdown resumes and finishes shutting down. Where would i look for why? [02:19] seams weird that CUPS wants to _start_ when everything else is stopping. [02:26] Does CUPS ever fully start prior to that? [02:26] Do you print? [02:26] L3top: very rarely [02:27] I can print if i swap over the router cables, but its not a normal thing for me. [02:28] I was just curious if something was preventing CUPS from actually starting during session, and it continued trying to start when unblocked. Just a stab in the dark. [02:28] is there a command like dmesg that will show the last shutdown messages maybe? [02:29] perhaps there is a clue in there if that system exists. [02:29] /var/log/dmesg is actually a good place to start [02:29] cat /var/log/dmesg | grep CUPS [02:29] cat /var/log/dmesg | grep -i CUPS [02:30] I don't deal with printing so I will be of little help probably. [02:31] L3top: you have been of help. I didnt realize backlogs of dmesg existed. thanks [02:52] anyone know what's going on with repos in US? slower now than even 6 hours ago [02:53] 13 KB/s is getting pretty bad.... [02:56] * L3top uses mirrors... finds his life is much easier [02:56] hasn't been so bad until very recently [02:56] may have to do that..... [02:57] qbit: I just noticed that downloading the decrepit and long-in-the-tooth Kompozer....13 kbs/sec :/ [02:57] deb mirror://mirrors.ubuntu.com/mirrors.txt lucid main restricted universe multiverse for instance... I love the local repo find function. Makes doing our own distributions so much easier. [02:57] I just dont have to worry about dealing with local sources. [02:58] s/local/locale/ [02:58] well I can understand 350 KB/s, 650 KB/s, and other such slowdowns due to server load - even maybe less [02:58] but I can pull steady at 1.8MB/s even if server can't [02:59] qbit: I know that during release, they throttled everything back to XX Kb/s on purpose [02:59] sane throttling is fine, but this is only slightly faster than twice a 56K dialup [03:00] something is broken somewhere and some admin needs to fix it [03:06] can you tell me which repo you are experiencing this with? [03:07] http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ ? === lindalou is now known as westmi [03:57] Why is there a @ in the root dir? [04:31] Daskreech: did you get the @ business figured out? [04:35] anyone else having issues with the netbook interface in 12.04 being a bit crashy? [04:37] not in kdm... unity... very yes. [04:37] what netbook === Memebase is now known as RJ_Morph [04:52] JMichaelX: Btrfs it looks like [05:02] Daskreech: ahhh. how are you fairing with btrfs? [05:03] JMichaelX: I'd tell you if I could get the machine usable [05:03] L3top: i'm using kubuntu on a dell mini 9. i feared it might be too heavy, but does not seem to be at all... however, it is pretty crashy [05:04] Daskreech: well, i wish you much luck on that! [05:05] JMichaelX: Apparently the video card is unusable [05:05] what's the bootup cheat for vesa mode? [05:06] Daskreech: so it is not a btrfs issue? which video card? [05:06] hmm [05:06] xvesa= [05:06] don't remember what comes after '=' [05:07] it seems like it isn't just the resolution, but can't remember [05:07] well I get the monitor turning off when X kicks in [05:08] When I boot the live CD I get a 800x600 display [05:08] yea, it's been a while, but i've run into that before. is this possibly an older intel GPU? [05:09] Nope nvidia 8800 [05:10] hmm, i would think that nouveau would handle that card all right. [05:10] possible KMS issue? [05:12] hmm [05:12] mayb [05:12] Win8 doesn't support it either which is interesting [05:14] that is a little surprising [05:15] what is your monitor's default resolution? [05:21] I thought vesa cheat was --force-vesa [05:21] ahhhh [05:22] Daskreech: are you able to give me lspci -nn | grep VGA [05:22] could be right. there is a help menu somewhere that gives those cheats, isn't there? one of the function keys? [05:22] I believe if you shift several times during boot, f5 or f6 will have a select for it [05:22] but... I havent seen that menu in a very long time [05:29] L3top: I'd have to boot into the live environment if you want to wait on that [05:30] I'll be around [05:32] L3top: ok [05:32] Let me try setup ssh [05:44] L3top: http://paste.ubuntu.com/995335 [05:48] That thing should have no problems with the native nvidia-current... but if you found issue with it you could run with the ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa [05:48] Frankly I like nvidia-glx-260 for that series :P [05:49] such a stable driver. [05:50] L3top: Soooo install the nvidia driver? [05:50] * L3top does NOT like the 290.40 driver the cononical gods decided on [05:50] yes... [05:50] I would presume it works. The Live CD boots but I don't know what option makes it do that and I ahven't had the time to play with it [05:50] nouveau does seem to take issue with it. [05:50] the live cd is using the fbdev driver [05:51] I Would guess maybe the card is runing a higher res than the LCD? that would shut it off right? [05:51] I wonder.... [05:51] works on almost anything, but does nothing particularly well [05:51] Hmm I can't run xrandr from ssh [05:51] a little disappointing [05:52] you might have to export DISPLAY=:0 I dont know... I deal only in xorg.conf still [05:53] Oh dear :) [05:54] Well it's X -configure isn't it to make one? [06:04] grrrr [06:09] L3top: Ok I need toget another linux machine going. What would I need to check on to find out if the res is too high for hte monitor? [06:16] Daskreech: Your display should give EDID to the card... and it should not be out of range... grep -i 'edid' /var/log/Xorg.0.log [06:19] L3top: blank [06:19] take a look at that file, and see if anything seems amis [06:19] s [06:20] kk [06:20] but I believe you will have a much better time with the proprietary nvidia-current [06:21] L3top: Which PPA is that? [06:22] ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa [06:22] but [06:22] in 1204, nvidia-current might just do the job without a ppa [06:23] and removing that would get you back to nouveau? [06:24] is there much of a setup beyond the apt-get ? [06:25] the apt-cache show for that is interesting [06:27] L3top: nvidia current is already the latest version [06:27] lsmod has both nvidia and nouveau loaded [06:29] L3top: hmm modprobe -r nvidia doesn't work however [06:32] almost never does [06:32] complains about some .so? [06:33] nouveau and nvidia is not a horror [06:34] unless nouveau is set while nvidia is loaded [06:34] well I ran modprobe -r on nouveau [06:34] tried restarting KDM [06:34] wont hurt [06:34] but clearly isnt helping [06:34] but I've now discovered I have no VTs [06:35] argh [06:35] Ok I'll file this under FUBAR and head down for the night [06:37] L3top: I'll try the --force-vesa in the morning [06:41] L3top: tried it now. :) Doens't work [06:42] did you add the ppa? [06:42] well [06:42] yeah... you could try the ppa [06:43] or you could use nvidia-xconfigure and edit your xorg.conf to use vesa [06:43] but [06:43] really you should be using the prop driver [06:43] and while the native one hits some issues [06:44] I am surprised you have nothing but fail on everything thus far [06:47] L3top: Yeah I'mma try tearing out teh video card tomorrow and see what happens === chalcedny is now known as chalcedony === kubuntu is now known as Guest1016 === G4MBY is now known as PaulW2U === toscalix_ is now known as toscalix === PasNox_ is now known as PasNox [08:44] !info afaik [08:44] Package afaik does not exist in precise [09:08] Hey folks. PowerPC user here! I need some help getting a nvidia driver installed === nmmm-away is now known as nmmm [09:14] theo: Check the jockey, kmenu -> applications -> system -> additinal drivers [09:32] lordievader: It says no drivers found [09:35] theo: That is odd. [09:37] theo: What is the output of "lspci -v|grep VGA"? [09:37] theo: or in other words, what nVidia card do you have? [09:37] where can I find the xorg.conf file in the latest kubuntu dist. ? [09:38] fx5200, but remember. Iḿ on a old MAC [09:38] so Iḿ working on a PPC platform [09:40] theo: Hmm yea not so good with apple's. You could try to install a driver from their website... [09:41] Iḿ tryin to find out where my xorg.conf went to [09:41] For linux nVidia does have drivers available, but I am not sure if it will work. [09:41] itś no longer in etx/xorg [09:42] theo: It is no longer really being used... (only half or something...) http://askubuntu.com/questions/129941/my-ubuntu-12-04-has-no-xorg-conf-is-that-normal === fh is now known as Guest12803 [09:46] lordievader: So how can I now check wich driver is being used? I've been told to use the nouveau driver [09:49] lordievader: NVM I found it ;-) [09:49] sudo lshw -c video [09:49] theo: Then under configuration it show what driver. [09:53] Hi, how can I use okular 4.8 via ppa? I already add ppa:kubuntu-ppa/ppa but the Packages files are not updated yet. [09:53] Coiby: You got two options, wait or build from the source. [09:54] Hi. I have a pc and a notebook both running on Kubuntu 12.04. Is there a way to connect them into a network for an easier file transfer? I don't need a detailed description, just tell me what should I google about [09:55] lordievader: Thanks! Btw, do you know when will the ppa be updated? I notice Precise is already updated. [09:55] Coiby: You are not running 12.04? Not sure when it will be updated. [09:56] lordievader: I [09:56] anqxyr: If security isn't a main issue you could try nfs, it is a very fast network storage/sharing solution. If security is an issue, you could try sshfs. [09:57] thanx for the help folks, Iḿ off! [09:57] lordievader: No. I'm running 11.10. Thanks anyway:) [09:57] thanks [09:58] Coiby: kde 4.8.2 is in ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports for 11.10 === yofel_ is now known as yofel [09:59] Oh right the backports, thx yofel [10:00] yofel: Nice! Thanks! [10:13] Hi all, I'm trying to compile oxygen transparent from the script downloaded here: http://opendesktop.org/content/show.php?content=127752, but keep getting the following error in return: http://paste.kde.org/482000/. Can anybody help me troubleshoot this, please? [10:14] lelamal_: you don't have git installed [10:15] lelamal_: sudo apt-get install git [10:15] oops I thought I had installed it, thank you guys :) [10:22] sorry for bothering, but I know next to nothing about compiling errors. I get a new one: http://paste.kde.org/482294/ [10:24] lelamal_: It is missing KDE4workspace, look in the repos and install it. [10:24] For me building things is quite annoying I never have all the dependencies... [10:24] KDE4workspace is in kde-workspace-dev [10:25] lordievader: the package doesnìt exist [10:26] yofel: it sayd I already have the newest version [10:26] says* [10:26] and it still fails? [10:26] unfortunately yes [10:26] OH [10:26] (Required is at least version "4.8.40") [10:27] that's KDE git master === lindalou is now known as westmi [10:27] you'll have to find an older version to build. there's probably a branch in git for 4.8 [10:28] yofel: yes, you're right, I'll have a try with it then. Thank you again! [10:29] 'git checkout stable' in the oxygen-transparent folder will do [10:29] ok thanks [10:32] thanks once more lordievader. I now actually have a functioning nfs thing [10:32] are speeds around 3Mb/s normal for it, or should I google some more? [10:33] anqxyr: Over what medium are you transferring? Wifi? [10:34] yup [10:34] anqxyr: Then 3MB/s is quite nice, I get 1MB/s here over wifi and ~10MB/s over LAN. [11:15] Howdy all === ultrixx_ is now known as ultrixx [12:40] Hi [12:41] Anybody had troubles with installation other languages in KUBUNTU 12.04...? [12:41] viteac, what other languages ? [12:42] I went to Settings, System settings, Locale and tried to install Polish but when mark it the button Apply is not active [12:43] BluesKaj Polish, but it seems I can't install any other languages, the button Apply doesn't work [12:45] BTW I do not want to translate all Kubuntu, I just want to have POLISH letters that way how you can change languages in alternative OS like Windows :-) [12:54] im still on 11.10 same thing there [12:54] its so ucking sophisticated, I love linux but understand people who are afraid of it, things that are so easy in windows are ucking difficult in linux even kubuntu [12:54] hmm if i tic on translations i can apply [12:54] mydogsnameisrudy: I check it now :-) [12:57] and anybody knows how to solve problem with crackling sound? [12:57] when is that happening? [12:57] this is so ucking common, probably with every version but it drives me crazy [12:57] all the time? [12:58] yeah, tried it mute, changing volume etc but there is sound but is crackling [12:59] hmmm sounds more like speak? maybe try headphones [12:59] viteac, enough with the language . leaving one letter off doesn't count [12:59] speakers or wires sorry [13:00] feels viteac's frustration ;) [13:00] viteac, it could be your audio connection is faulty [13:00] not wires, no speakers, tried even with headphones, everything works fine on windows [13:01] BluesKaj theres more than one letter :-) [13:01] doesn't matter [13:01] viteac: How is the path from pc to speakers? [13:03] lordievader: sorry what path from pc to speakers? [13:03] viteac: Is there a direct connection or does it go through something else (EQ, amp, etc) [13:03] 'crackling" can mean anything , distortion even ...like static ? [13:04] lordievader: no, its connected direct from PC [13:04] BluesKaj: its difficult to describe, hmmm somethind like dial up modem if you old enough? :-) [13:05] viteac: Do you happen to have a volume control on the speakers (if so is it set to max? Amps in speakers aren't the greatest thing...) [13:05] viteac, you may have a noisy unused input like a mic that is turned up to the max [13:06] That is also quite possible. [13:07] Crackling and hums can have many causes... unfortunately... [13:07] open alsamixer see whats up [13:08] lordievader: tried as well as I said I tried the sounds volume, that was helping in others version of Linux, but it doesnt help me now [13:10] what sounds volume ? [13:12] checked also /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf and everything is OK [13:13] BluesKaj: not high 50% [13:14] what about alsamixer ? [13:15] do you have any sound other than the crackling , like music etc ? [13:16] hi alll, was having KDE freezes in oneric when trying to accessing ntfs through dolphin. Any suggestions where i can start looking ? [13:18] rajumoh: is this on the same harddrive or over network? [13:18] its the same hardrive [13:20] rajumoh, sudo mount -t ntfs-3g -o force /dev/sdxx /mnt , sdxx is the device as listed in df -h [13:20] BluesKaj: alsamixer doesnt help, tried it too [13:20] could a highly fragmented hard disk be the cause ? [13:20] BluesKaj: there is not sound, or there's crakling sound [13:21] viteac, run aplay -l in the terminal [13:23] ard 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 0: ALC888 Analog [ALC888 Analog] [13:23] Subdevices: 0/1 [13:23] Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 [13:23] card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 1: ALC888 Digital [ALC888 Digital] [13:23] Subdevices: 1/1 [13:23] viteac: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [13:23] Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 [13:26] viteac, pastebin , lsmod | grep snd [13:28] viteac@viteac:~$ lsmod [13:28] .adobe/ .kadu/ [13:28] .bash_history .kde/ [13:28] .bash_logout .lgames/ [13:28] .bashrc .local/ [13:28] [BEST-TORRENTS.NET] ESKA HITY NA CZASIE 2012/ .macromedia/ [13:28] viteac: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [13:28] viteac, do you understand pastebin? [13:30] viteac, copy and paste the command into the terminal , lsmod | grep snd , then pastebin the output [13:33] waiting for paste.ubuntu.com over 4min, thats suck [13:34] viteac: use http://paste.kde.org/ [13:35] viteac, what's the first line in the output? [13:36] that one works: http://paste.kde.org/482378/ [13:37] viteac, not just lsmod copy and paste this , " lsmod | grep snd " , without the quotes [13:39] http://paste.kde.org/482384/ [13:42]