[00:00] <Matisse> L3top, the feature is integrated in KDE 4.5
[00:00] <Matisse> http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Desktop+in+Alt-Tab+Switch?content=124109
[00:01] <lorecaster> (I'm using gnome3, no one in there could help me, so i searched elsewhere. I was hoping this was not UI specific)
[00:01] <L3top> lorecaster: aplay -l
[00:01] <lorecaster> whoa... HDMI is listed now?!
[00:01] <lorecaster> http://pastebin.com/qpV5VYjy
[00:05] <L3top> lorecaster: almost there
[00:06] <L3top> just trying to find asound.conf on 1204
[00:06] <L3top> ah  different now
[00:06] <L3top> gimme a min
[00:06] <lorecaster> you take your time. You've been a saint, thus far.
[00:08] <L3top> pastebinit /usr/share/doc/libasound2-plugins/examples/asound.conf_oss
[00:08] <L3top> erg
[00:09] <L3top> thats an example
[00:10] <L3top> darnit... I dont know ANYTHING about how alsa operates now days... we are stuck on .23
[00:11] <lorecaster> http://paste.ubuntu.com/995151/
[00:11] <L3top> lorecaster: I can tell you that you want this http://pastebin.com/YEFi7bwK  at the end of what used to be the asound.conf
[00:13] <lorecaster> I'm installing "Default sound card" which was what "asound" returned in ubuntu software centre
[00:13] <lorecaster> that may provide the files we want
[00:13] <L3top> I will figure out where it went
[00:15] <lorecaster> always loved a challenge.
[00:16] <lorecaster> it's in etc, it seems
[00:16] <lorecaster> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure ick, is this of any use?
[00:18] <L3top> it is there?
[00:18] <L3top> isnt in my 1204s
[00:18] <L3top> thats where it is suppsoed to be
[00:18] <lorecaster> doesn't appear to be in mine, either
[00:18] <L3top> and it may just be one of those things that once you create it, it defaults
[00:19] <L3top> so dump that little pastebin into a file called asound.conf in /etc
[00:19] <lorecaster> I've heard of them... I'll gedit one, what would you like there?
[00:19] <lorecaster> ahh :) beat me to it.
[00:19] <lorecaster> done
[00:20] <L3top> and I have no idea how to restart the alsa service on precise. phfffff
[00:21] <lorecaster> :o appears we both have work to do ;) would a system restart or a logout do it?
[00:21] <L3top> sudo alsa reload
[00:22] <lorecaster> http://pastebin.com/v9DBxA2y
[00:23] <lorecaster> ahh, shoot. one sec.
[00:23] <L3top> for fun.. speaker-test -Dplug:hdmi
[00:23] <lorecaster> http://pastebin.com/QdK8F1vq
[00:24] <lorecaster> IT WORKS!!!!
[00:24] <lorecaster> You're a god-send!
[00:24] <L3top> well... thats one thing... to get it to test out
[00:24] <L3top> lets see if it plays
[00:25] <L3top> you may have to assign whatever your player is to default to that output
[00:25] <L3top> or... more likely... assign it to whatever your audio mixer control is there in gnome
[00:25] <lorecaster> still not found in the sound-settings?!
[00:25] <L3top> I use kubu so it would be kmixer
[00:26] <L3top> I wouldnt expect it to be so blatantly labeled
[00:26] <L3top> did I ever get an amixer | pastebinit
[00:27] <L3top> but at least we know the hdmi is recognized and will play a signal... thats a good sign.
[00:27] <lorecaster> http://paste.ubuntu.com/995164/
[00:28] <L3top> ok... yeah if you amixer | grep IEC           those are your digital outs... the first is more than likely your hdmi
[00:29] <lorecaster> http://pastebin.com/7eFnsbWT
[00:29] <L3top> and it is unmuted... so I would try and default my output to that in whatever gnome3's mixer control is.
[00:29] <lorecaster> I really admire you... truely I do. I wishI had your proficiency with a system as complicated as this
[00:29] <L3top> Might check with teh guys in #ubuntu
[00:29]  * L3top feels like he is stumbling drunk through this lol
[00:29] <lorecaster> I brought this to their attention, no one had anything to say. You feel as thoug this is a Gnome thing?
[00:30] <L3top> however these problems let me get more familiar with teh changes, as we will be moving to 1204 before too long... so really, you are helping me
[00:30] <L3top> No... I am just unfamiliar with the gnome tools.
[00:30] <L3top> just need to assign our output now that we can push to hdmi I believe
[00:30] <lorecaster> haha, nice turnabout. yeah, I realize and apologize. the crew at #ubuntu arn't nearly as helpful, historically, as you guys
[00:30] <L3top> and I cant walk you through it
[00:31]  * L3top is in there too... just like it here better :)
[00:31] <lorecaster> hermn...
[00:31] <lorecaster> so what, exactly, would I have to explain to them? I have no idea of half of what we've done.
[00:32] <L3top> Ill do it
[00:32] <lorecaster> I'm no greenie... but you're above my board, here.
[00:32] <lorecaster> OH! You take all the fun out of being hopeless! :P
[00:36] <L3top> its just a huge channel... sometimes it takes a while.
[00:36] <illidan> Does chromium when signed in to google sync the eintire wallet to google or just the passwords it put in there?
[00:37] <lorecaster> no worries. you have my undivided attention, :)
 L3top: you tried checking Default Audio setting in System Setting? just asking 0_o
[00:45] <lorecaster> system settings => sound => output and hardware only have "Built-in analog audio"
[00:46] <lorecaster> firrst thing i checked
[00:46] <L3top> okey doke...
[00:46] <L3top> and in alsamixer f6 switching that and returning...
[00:46] <L3top> does it have digital
[00:47] <lorecaster> - (defaul), 0 HDA Nvidia, Enter device name...
[00:49] <lorecaster> ima buy a quadcore macbook (with ubuntu, of course) next semester with a mac monitor... be rid of all this frustration
[00:49] <L3top> lorecaster: drop into #ubuntu, no reason to eat up this irc with it
[00:53] <vit> hell
[00:53] <vit> hello
[00:54] <mydogsnameisrudy> hey there
[00:56] <vit> If I here because
[00:59] <vit> queeeeeeeeeeeeee aburrimientooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[01:04] <genii-around> vit: It's quiet here when there are no questions about Kubuntu being answered.
[01:10] <caesar_> can someone help me find and install a graphics driver?
[01:11] <L3top> caesar_: lspci -nn | grep VGA
[01:12] <caesar_> L3top: VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:2a42] (rev 07)
[01:13] <L3top> caesar_: what version kubuntu are you on?
[01:13] <caesar_> 10.04
[01:14] <caesar_> i'm getting glitches across my screen
[01:14] <L3top> ok... lets do a couple of things...
[01:14] <L3top> what sort of glitches?
[01:15] <caesar_> quick lines flashing across the bottom half of my screen
[01:15] <caesar_> and laggy system
[01:15] <L3top> caesar_: update-pciids
[01:15] <L3top> once that is finished run that lspci grep again
[01:15] <L3top> apt-get install libva-driver-i965
[01:16] <L3top> we can take care of laggy... but glitchy... on 1004... that is worrysome
[01:16] <L3top> worrisome?
[01:16] <L3top> cant spell today.
[01:16] <caesar_> update-pciids: /usr/share/misc/pci.ids.new is read-only
[01:17] <L3top> hmmm
[01:17] <L3top> sorry
[01:17] <L3top> sudo update-pciids
[01:17] <caesar_> lol
[01:17] <L3top> sudo apt-get install libva-driver-i965
[01:17] <L3top> I am very bad about remembering sudo, I do most things as root
[01:19] <caesar_> caesar@caesar-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install libva-driver-i965
[01:19] <caesar_> Reading package lists... Done
[01:19] <caesar_> Building dependency tree
[01:19] <caesar_> Reading state information... Done
[01:19] <caesar_> E: Couldn't find package libva-driver-i965
[01:19] <FloodBotK1> caesar_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:19] <caesar_> sorry
[01:19] <L3top> !info libva-driver-i965 lucid
[01:20] <caesar_> i've seen this glitching once before in a windows machine running a generic driver
[01:22] <L3top> Yes, that reeks of a hardware problem caesar_... well it appears you guys dont have that... sorry... I thought that was in standard repos.
[01:22] <L3top> give me just a second
[01:23] <caesar_> so you think updating would fix this issue?
[01:24] <L3top> No... I think your hw has problems...
[01:24] <caesar_> well that isn't good
[01:24] <L3top> however if you want you can use our acceleration driver... will make it zippier... but I dont expect your glitching is gonna go away
[01:25] <caesar_> it's seems to be getting worse and worse
[01:26] <caesar_> but on my windows install i never had this issue.. and just switched over like a week ago
[01:26] <L3top> if you add: deb http://deb.linuxmce.org/ubuntu/ lucid beta2         to your /etc/apt/sources.list, sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get install  libva-driver-i965        it will work better... but... as I said... smells like immenent hw failure might be in your future...
 i've seen this glitching once before in a windows machine running a generic driver
[01:27] <mydogsnameisrudy> is the video card built in to the mother board?
[01:27] <L3top> I misunderstood you then. I thought you were saying THIS machine on windows had a problem
[01:27] <caesar_> no not mine.. never before
[01:27] <caesar_> mydogsnameisrudy: i believe so yes
[01:28] <mydogsnameisrudy> ok if not remove and reseat the card might help
[01:28] <L3top> good call mydogsnameisrudy
[01:28] <L3top> caesar_: can I get the output of lspci -nn | grep VGA   again?
[01:29] <caesar_> caesar@caesar-laptop:~$ lspci -nn | grep VGA
[01:29] <caesar_> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:2a42] (rev 07)
[01:29] <L3top> unchanged... ok
[01:30] <L3top> caesar_: go ahead and add our repo, do the update, install that driver, remove our repo, update again
[01:30] <L3top> you dont want our versions for other things, might cause conflicts
[01:30] <caesar_> i'm just gonna update to latest version
[01:31] <caesar_> lts is up this year anyway right?
[01:31] <L3top> do not upgrade/dist-upgrade with our repo enabled.  ONLY do sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install libva-driver-i965
[01:31] <caesar_> i clean install when i do
[01:31] <caesar_> i dont like any reminince of other os
[02:18] <ussher_> when i shut kubuntu 12.04 down at night it stops at "starting CUPS printing spooler/severityypted block devices [ok]".  It wont shut down.  then i do ctrl+shift+F5 to get to a login screen and the shutdown resumes and finishes shutting down.  Where would i look for why?
[02:19] <ussher_> seams weird that CUPS wants to _start_ when everything else is stopping.
[02:26] <L3top> Does CUPS ever fully start prior to that?
[02:26] <L3top> Do you print?
[02:26] <ussher_> L3top: very rarely
[02:27] <ussher_> I can print if i swap over the router cables, but its not a normal thing for me.
[02:28] <L3top> I was just curious if something was preventing CUPS from actually starting during session, and it continued trying to start when unblocked. Just a stab in the dark.
[02:28] <ussher_> is there a command like dmesg that will show the last shutdown messages maybe?
[02:29] <ussher_> perhaps there is a clue in there if that system exists.
[02:29] <L3top> /var/log/dmesg is actually a good place to start
[02:29] <L3top> cat /var/log/dmesg | grep CUPS
[02:29] <L3top> cat /var/log/dmesg | grep -i CUPS
[02:30] <L3top> I don't deal with printing so I will be of little help probably.
[02:31] <ussher_> L3top: you have been of help.  I didnt realize backlogs of dmesg existed.  thanks
[02:52] <qbit> anyone know what's going on with repos in US? slower now than even 6 hours ago
[02:53] <qbit> 13 KB/s is getting pretty bad....
[02:56]  * L3top uses mirrors... finds his life is much easier
[02:56] <qbit> hasn't been so bad until very recently
[02:56] <qbit> may have to do that.....
[02:57] <ronnoc> qbit: I just noticed that downloading the decrepit and long-in-the-tooth Kompozer....13 kbs/sec :/
[02:57] <L3top> deb mirror://mirrors.ubuntu.com/mirrors.txt  lucid main restricted universe multiverse     for instance... I love the local repo find function. Makes doing our own distributions so much easier.
[02:57] <L3top> I just dont have to worry about dealing with local sources.
[02:58] <L3top> s/local/locale/
[02:58] <qbit> well I can understand 350 KB/s, 650 KB/s, and other such slowdowns due to server load - even maybe less
[02:58] <qbit> but I can pull steady at 1.8MB/s  even if server can't
[02:59] <L3top> qbit: I know that during release, they throttled everything back to XX Kb/s on purpose
[02:59] <qbit> sane throttling is fine, but this is only slightly faster than twice a 56K dialup
[03:00] <qbit> something is broken somewhere and some admin needs to fix it
[03:06] <L3top> can you tell me which repo you are experiencing this with?
[03:07] <L3top> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ ?
[03:57] <Daskreech> Why is there a @ in the root dir?
[04:31] <JMichaelX> Daskreech: did you get the @ business figured out?
[04:35] <JMichaelX> anyone else having issues with the netbook interface in 12.04 being a bit crashy?
[04:37] <L3top> not in kdm... unity... very yes.
[04:37] <L3top> what netbook
[04:52] <Daskreech> JMichaelX: Btrfs it looks like
[05:02] <JMichaelX> Daskreech: ahhh. how are you fairing with btrfs?
[05:03] <Daskreech> JMichaelX: I'd tell you if I could get the machine usable
[05:03] <JMichaelX> L3top: i'm using kubuntu on a dell mini 9. i feared it might be too heavy, but does not seem to be at all... however, it is pretty crashy
[05:04] <JMichaelX> Daskreech: well, i wish you much luck on that!
[05:05] <Daskreech> JMichaelX: Apparently the video card is unusable
[05:05] <Daskreech> what's the bootup cheat for vesa mode?
[05:06] <JMichaelX> Daskreech: so it is not a btrfs issue? which video card?
[05:06] <JMichaelX> hmm
[05:06] <JMichaelX> xvesa=
[05:06] <JMichaelX> don't remember what comes after '='
[05:07] <JMichaelX> it seems like it isn't just the resolution, but can't remember
[05:07] <Daskreech> well I get the monitor turning off when X kicks in
[05:08] <Daskreech> When I boot the live CD I get a 800x600 display
[05:08] <JMichaelX> yea, it's been a while, but i've run into that before. is this possibly an older intel GPU?
[05:09] <Daskreech> Nope nvidia 8800
[05:10] <JMichaelX> hmm, i would think that nouveau would handle that card all right.
[05:10] <JMichaelX> possible KMS issue?
[05:12] <Daskreech> hmm
[05:12] <Daskreech> mayb
[05:12] <Daskreech> Win8 doesn't support it either which is interesting
[05:14] <JMichaelX> that is a little surprising
[05:15] <JMichaelX> what is your monitor's default resolution?
[05:21] <L3top> I thought vesa cheat was --force-vesa
[05:21] <JMichaelX> ahhhh
[05:22] <L3top> Daskreech: are you able to give me lspci -nn | grep VGA
[05:22] <JMichaelX> could be right. there is a help menu somewhere that gives those cheats, isn't there? one of the function keys?
[05:22] <L3top> I believe if you shift several times during boot, f5 or f6 will have a select for it
[05:22] <L3top> but... I havent seen that menu in a very long time
[05:29] <Daskreech> L3top: I'd have to boot into the live environment if you want to wait on that
[05:30] <L3top> I'll be around
[05:32] <Daskreech> L3top: ok
[05:32] <Daskreech> Let me try setup ssh
[05:44] <Daskreech> L3top: http://paste.ubuntu.com/995335
[05:48] <L3top> That thing should have no problems with the native nvidia-current... but if you found issue with it you could run with the ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa
[05:48] <L3top> Frankly I like nvidia-glx-260 for that series :P
[05:49] <L3top> such a stable driver.
[05:50] <Daskreech> L3top: Soooo install the nvidia driver?
[05:50]  * L3top does NOT like the 290.40 driver the cononical gods decided on
[05:50] <L3top> yes...
[05:50] <Daskreech> I would presume it works. The Live CD boots but I don't know what option makes it do that and I ahven't had the time to play with it
[05:50] <L3top> nouveau does seem to take issue with it.
[05:50] <L3top> the live cd is using the fbdev driver
[05:51] <Daskreech> I Would guess maybe the card is runing a higher res than the LCD? that would shut it off right?
[05:51] <Daskreech> I wonder....
[05:51] <L3top> works on almost anything, but does nothing particularly well
[05:51] <Daskreech> Hmm I can't run xrandr from ssh
[05:51] <Daskreech> a little disappointing
[05:52] <L3top> you might have to export DISPLAY=:0    I dont know... I deal only in xorg.conf still
[05:53] <Daskreech> Oh dear :)
[05:54] <Daskreech> Well it's X -configure isn't it to make one?
[06:04] <Daskreech> grrrr
[06:09] <Daskreech> L3top: Ok I need toget another linux machine going. What would I need to check on to find out if the res is too high for hte monitor?
[06:16] <L3top> Daskreech: Your display should give EDID to the card... and it should not be out of range... grep -i 'edid' /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[06:19] <Daskreech> L3top: blank
[06:19] <L3top> take a look at that file, and see if anything seems amis
[06:19] <L3top> s
[06:20] <Daskreech> kk
[06:20] <L3top> but I believe you will have a much better time with the proprietary nvidia-current
[06:21] <Daskreech> L3top: Which PPA is that?
[06:22] <L3top> ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa
[06:22] <L3top> but
[06:22] <L3top> in 1204, nvidia-current might just do the job without a ppa
[06:23] <Daskreech> and removing that would get you back to nouveau?
[06:24] <Daskreech> is there much of a setup beyond the apt-get ?
[06:25] <Daskreech> the apt-cache show for that is interesting
[06:27] <Daskreech> L3top: nvidia current is already the latest version
[06:27] <Daskreech> lsmod has both nvidia and nouveau loaded
[06:29] <Daskreech> L3top: hmm modprobe -r nvidia doesn't work however
[06:32] <L3top> almost never does
[06:32] <L3top> complains about some .so?
[06:33] <L3top> nouveau and nvidia is not a horror
[06:34] <L3top> unless nouveau is set while nvidia is loaded
[06:34] <Daskreech> well I ran modprobe -r on nouveau
[06:34] <Daskreech> tried restarting KDM
[06:34] <L3top> wont hurt
[06:34] <L3top> but clearly isnt helping
[06:34] <Daskreech> but I've now discovered I have no VTs
[06:35] <Daskreech> argh
[06:35] <Daskreech> Ok I'll file this under FUBAR and head down for the night
[06:37] <Daskreech> L3top: I'll try the --force-vesa in the morning
[06:41] <Daskreech> L3top: tried it now. :) Doens't work
[06:42] <L3top> did you add the ppa?
[06:42] <L3top> well
[06:42] <L3top> yeah... you could try the ppa
[06:43] <L3top> or you could use nvidia-xconfigure and edit your xorg.conf to use vesa
[06:43] <L3top> but
[06:43] <L3top> really you should be using the prop driver
[06:43] <L3top> and while the native one hits some issues
[06:44] <L3top> I am surprised you have nothing but fail on everything thus far
[06:47] <Daskreech> L3top: Yeah I'mma try tearing out teh video card tomorrow and see what happens
[08:44] <root_> !info afaik
[09:08] <theo> Hey folks. PowerPC user here! I need some help getting a nvidia driver installed
[09:14] <lordievader> theo: Check the jockey, kmenu -> applications -> system -> additinal drivers
[09:32] <theo> lordievader: It says no drivers found
[09:35] <lordievader> theo: That is odd.
[09:37] <lordievader> theo: What is the output of "lspci -v|grep VGA"?
[09:37] <lordievader> theo: or in other words, what nVidia card do you have?
[09:37] <theo> where can I find the xorg.conf file in the latest kubuntu dist. ?
[09:38] <theo> fx5200, but remember. Iḿ on a old MAC
[09:38] <theo> so Iḿ working on a PPC platform
[09:40] <lordievader> theo: Hmm yea not so good with apple's. You could try to install a driver from their website...
[09:41] <theo> Iḿ tryin to find out where my xorg.conf went to
[09:41] <lordievader> For linux nVidia does have drivers available, but I am not sure if it will work.
[09:41] <theo> itś no longer in etx/xorg
[09:42] <lordievader> theo: It is no longer really being used... (only half or something...) http://askubuntu.com/questions/129941/my-ubuntu-12-04-has-no-xorg-conf-is-that-normal
[09:46] <theo> lordievader: So how can I now check wich driver is being used? I've been told to use the nouveau driver
[09:49] <theo> lordievader: NVM I found it ;-)
[09:49] <lordievader> sudo lshw -c video
[09:49] <lordievader> theo: Then under configuration it show what driver.
[09:53] <Coiby> Hi, how can I use okular 4.8 via ppa? I already add ppa:kubuntu-ppa/ppa but the Packages files are not updated yet.
[09:53] <lordievader> Coiby: You got two options, wait or build from the source.
[09:54] <anqxyr> Hi. I have a pc and a notebook both running on Kubuntu 12.04. Is there a way to connect them into a network for an easier file transfer? I don't need a detailed description, just tell me what should I google about
[09:55] <Coiby> lordievader: Thanks! Btw, do you know when will the ppa be updated? I notice Precise is already updated.
[09:55] <lordievader> Coiby: You are not running 12.04? Not sure when it will be updated.
[09:56] <Coiby> lordievader: I
[09:56] <lordievader> anqxyr: If security isn't a main issue you could try nfs, it is a very fast network storage/sharing solution. If security is an issue, you could try sshfs.
[09:57] <theo> thanx for the help folks, Iḿ off!
[09:57] <Coiby> lordievader: No. I'm running 11.10. Thanks anyway:)
[09:57] <anqxyr> thanks
[09:58] <yofel_> Coiby: kde 4.8.2 is in ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports for 11.10
[09:59] <lordievader> Oh right the backports, thx yofel
[10:00] <Coiby> yofel: Nice! Thanks!
[10:13] <lelamal_> Hi all, I'm trying to compile oxygen transparent from the script downloaded here: http://opendesktop.org/content/show.php?content=127752, but keep getting the following error in return: http://paste.kde.org/482000/. Can anybody help me troubleshoot this, please?
[10:14] <yofel> lelamal_: you don't have git installed
[10:15] <lordievader> lelamal_: sudo apt-get install git
[10:15] <lelamal_> oops I thought I had installed it, thank you guys :)
[10:22] <lelamal_> sorry for bothering, but I know next to nothing about compiling errors. I get a new one: http://paste.kde.org/482294/
[10:24] <lordievader> lelamal_: It is missing KDE4workspace, look in the repos and install it.
[10:24] <lordievader> For me building things is quite annoying I never have all the dependencies...
[10:24] <yofel> KDE4workspace is in kde-workspace-dev
[10:25] <lelamal_> lordievader: the package doesnìt exist
[10:26] <lelamal_> yofel: it sayd I already have the newest version
[10:26] <lelamal_> says*
[10:26] <yofel> and it still fails?
[10:26] <lelamal_> unfortunately yes
[10:26] <yofel> OH
[10:26] <yofel> (Required is at least version "4.8.40")
[10:27] <yofel> that's KDE git master
[10:27] <yofel> you'll have to find an older version to build. there's probably a branch in git for 4.8
[10:28] <lelamal_> yofel: yes, you're right, I'll have a try with it then. Thank you again!
[10:29] <yofel> 'git checkout stable' in the oxygen-transparent folder will do
[10:29] <lelamal_> ok thanks
[10:32] <anqxyr> thanks once more lordievader. I now actually have a functioning nfs thing
[10:32] <anqxyr> are speeds around 3Mb/s normal for it, or should I google some more?
[10:33] <lordievader> anqxyr: Over what medium are you transferring? Wifi?
[10:34] <anqxyr> yup
[10:34] <lordievader> anqxyr: Then 3MB/s is quite nice, I get 1MB/s here over wifi and ~10MB/s over LAN.
[11:15] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[12:40] <viteac> Hi
[12:41] <viteac> Anybody had troubles with installation other languages in KUBUNTU 12.04...?
[12:41] <BluesKaj> viteac, what other languages ?
[12:42] <viteac> I went to Settings, System settings, Locale and tried to install Polish but when mark it the button Apply is not active
[12:43] <viteac> BluesKaj Polish, but it seems I can't install any other languages, the button Apply doesn't work
[12:45] <viteac> BTW I do not want to translate all Kubuntu, I just want to have POLISH letters that way how you can change languages in alternative OS like Windows :-)
[12:54] <mydogsnameisrudy> im still on 11.10 same thing there
[12:54] <viteac> its so ucking sophisticated, I love linux but understand people who are afraid of it, things that are so easy in windows are ucking difficult in linux even kubuntu
[12:54] <mydogsnameisrudy> hmm if i tic on translations i can apply
[12:54] <viteac> mydogsnameisrudy: I check it now :-)
[12:57] <viteac> and anybody knows how to solve problem with crackling sound?
[12:57] <mydogsnameisrudy> when is that happening?
[12:57] <viteac> this is so ucking common, probably with every version but it drives me crazy
[12:57] <mydogsnameisrudy> all the time?
[12:58] <viteac> yeah, tried it mute, changing volume etc but there is sound but is crackling
[12:59] <mydogsnameisrudy> hmmm sounds more like speak? maybe try headphones
[12:59] <BluesKaj> viteac, enough with the language . leaving one letter off doesn't count
[12:59] <mydogsnameisrudy> speakers or wires sorry
[13:00] <mydogsnameisrudy> feels viteac's frustration ;)
[13:00] <BluesKaj> viteac, it could be your audio connection is faulty
[13:00] <viteac> not wires, no speakers, tried even with headphones, everything works fine on windows
[13:01] <viteac> BluesKaj theres more than one letter :-)
[13:01] <BluesKaj> doesn't matter
[13:01] <lordievader> viteac: How is the path from pc to speakers?
[13:03] <viteac> lordievader: sorry what path from pc to speakers?
[13:03] <lordievader> viteac: Is there a direct connection or does it go through something else (EQ, amp, etc)
[13:03] <BluesKaj> 'crackling" can mean anything , distortion even ...like static ?
[13:04] <viteac> lordievader: no, its connected direct from PC
[13:04] <viteac> BluesKaj: its difficult to describe, hmmm somethind like dial up modem if you old enough? :-)
[13:05] <lordievader> viteac: Do you happen to have a volume control on the speakers (if so is it set to max? Amps in speakers aren't the greatest thing...)
[13:05] <BluesKaj> viteac, you may have a noisy unused input like a mic that is turned up to the max
[13:06] <lordievader> That is also quite possible.
[13:07] <lordievader> Crackling and hums can have many causes... unfortunately...
[13:07] <mydogsnameisrudy> open alsamixer see whats up
[13:08] <viteac> lordievader: tried as well as I said I tried the sounds volume, that was helping in others version of Linux, but it doesnt help me now
[13:10] <BluesKaj> what sounds volume ?
[13:12] <viteac> checked also /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf and everything is OK
[13:13] <viteac> BluesKaj: not high 50%
[13:14] <BluesKaj> what about alsamixer ?
[13:15] <BluesKaj> do you have any sound other than the crackling , like music etc ?
[13:16] <rajumoh> hi alll, was having KDE freezes in oneric when trying to accessing ntfs through dolphin. Any suggestions where i can start looking ?
[13:18] <mydogsnameisrudy> rajumoh:  is this on the same harddrive or over network?
[13:18] <rajumoh> its the same hardrive
[13:20] <BluesKaj> rajumoh, sudo mount -t ntfs-3g -o force /dev/sdxx /mnt , sdxx is the device as listed in df -h
[13:20] <viteac> BluesKaj: alsamixer doesnt help, tried it too
[13:20] <rajumoh> could a highly fragmented hard disk be the cause ?
[13:20] <viteac> BluesKaj: there is not sound, or there's crakling sound
[13:21] <BluesKaj> viteac, run aplay -l in the terminal
[13:23] <viteac> ard 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 0: ALC888 Analog [ALC888 Analog]
[13:23] <viteac>   Subdevices: 0/1
[13:23] <viteac>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[13:23] <viteac> card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 1: ALC888 Digital [ALC888 Digital]
[13:23] <viteac>   Subdevices: 1/1
[13:23] <FloodBotK1> viteac: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:23] <viteac>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[13:26] <BluesKaj> viteac, pastebin ,  lsmod | grep snd
[13:28] <viteac> viteac@viteac:~$ lsmod
[13:28] <viteac> .adobe/                                        .kadu/
[13:28] <viteac> .bash_history                                  .kde/
[13:28] <viteac> .bash_logout                                   .lgames/
[13:28] <viteac> .bashrc                                        .local/
[13:28] <viteac> [BEST-TORRENTS.NET]  ESKA HITY NA CZASIE 2012/ .macromedia/
[13:28] <FloodBotK1> viteac: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:28] <BluesKaj> viteac, do you understand pastebin?
[13:30] <BluesKaj> viteac, copy and paste the command into the terminal , lsmod | grep snd  , then pastebin the output
[13:33] <viteac> waiting for paste.ubuntu.com over 4min, thats suck
[13:34] <lelamal> viteac: use http://paste.kde.org/
[13:35] <BluesKaj> viteac, what's the first line in the output?
[13:36] <viteac> that one works:  http://paste.kde.org/482378/
[13:37] <BluesKaj> viteac,  not just lsmod   copy and paste this , " lsmod | grep snd " , without the quotes
[13:39] <viteac> http://paste.kde.org/482384/
[13:42] <BluesKaj> viteac, ok , open system settings>multimedia>phonon> device preference , try the different devices listed with the test button and move the one that works to the top
[13:44] <viteac> BluesKaj:  unfortunately there is only one option that I can choose, and that is: Built in Audio  Analogue Stereo
[13:45] <BluesKaj> viteac, does it work ?
[13:46] <viteac> I use Linux since first Red Hat 2, and almost always there are troubles with sound but that one Im not able solve, in some versions  the sound were working after installation, but update broke it down. But that Kubuntu 12.04  is absolutely mystery.
[13:47] <viteac> BluesKaj: no man, the TEST doesnt give any sound
[13:49] <BluesKaj> viteac, sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel  , if there's no output then we casn proceed to the next step
[13:52] <viteac> nothing happens
[13:52] <viteac> BTW now, I dont have the sound at all :-(
[13:54] <BluesKaj> the sound ?
[13:56] <BluesKaj> viteac, what sound ? ...do you have sound or not ?
[13:58] <viteac> BluesKaj: no sound
[14:03] <BluesKaj> viteac, anyway , alt+F2 , kdesudo kate /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf , at the bottom add this line , options snd_hda_intel index=0 , then save the file , and reboot
[14:08] <viteac> Ok, lets check it
[14:45] <BluesKaj> bummer , X/desktop and all input devs froze
[15:04] <lordievader> r1N0!O_+P3L
[15:05] <NoiseCounsellor> Hi! I'm having a small problem with Kubuntu 12.04. My screen keeps turning off after a short time without moving the mouse or typing. In System Settings all screen savers and Power Settings are off. Anywhere else I should look for what's causing that?
[15:06] <lordievader> NoiseCounsellor: Kde seems to disregard that setting, turning it to 360min works for me a lot better.
[15:06] <BluesKaj> NoiseCounsellor, the problem with turning power management of is the default 10 mins or so shuts X down if there's no action , best ti use power management on ,and configure it for the same as the scrn saver
[15:07] <BluesKaj> of=off
[15:08] <NoiseCounsellor> BluesKaj, lordievader   Thanks, will try that. Can't report on effectiveness right away, since it only ever annoyed me while watching something in fullscreen...
[15:15] <mahsun> mk
[15:16] <sparaj> hello... kubuntu users
[15:16] <lordievader> Hey sparaj, how are you?
[15:44] <BluesKaj> I was helping a guy with his sound probs earlier but my inpt devices suddenly froze and couldn't do a thing , had to do hard reboot , and vit-something or other was also rebooting after modprobing a differnt sound driver ,I wonder how he made out , lordievader , do you recall?
[15:45] <lordievader> BluesKaj: Yes, it was viteac, seems to have went offline.
[15:45] <BluesKaj> ok lordievader thanks
[15:46] <BluesKaj> he hadn't returned by the time my system froze
[15:48] <Peace-> BluesKaj: hahah
[15:49] <BluesKaj> Peace-, ? ..what's funny ?
[15:50] <Peace-> system froze
[15:51]  * Peace- evil
[15:51] <su_> hey there, i'm not sure if i'm in the right channel for this question - but figured that you all wouldn't bite
[15:52] <ikonia> if it's a kubuntu question, it's fine
[15:52] <ikonia> if not, I'm sure there are better questions
[15:52] <BluesKaj> yeah , just did an update/upgrade , the input devices did an auto reconfigure during the reboot
[15:53] <su_> i'm sorta new to k
[15:53] <ikonia> nothing wrong with that
[15:53] <su_> i've run it here and there, but will likely be sticking with it for the long haul this time
[15:54] <su_> i'm looking for a way to export images from pdfs like a bath process
[15:54] <su_> i found a CL tut, but i may need some libraries, maybe i can look for them in the muon thing that's like synaptic
[15:55] <su_> i looked at this but it's old http://code.google.com/p/gscreendump/wiki/Installation
[15:57] <ikonia> never done that
[15:59] <su_> i'm definitely liking k
[15:59] <su_> ;)
[15:59] <su_> it's very mature
[16:28] <Wizard> Hi
[16:30] <dav_> hi is possible with pidgin add a msn buddy on yahoo account? Could you help me?
[16:30] <lordievader> Hey Wizard How are you?
[16:32] <lordievader> dav_: No, those are 2 entirely different protocols.
[16:32] <dav_> ok, thanks...
[16:33] <Wizard> lordievader: Fine.
[16:33] <Wizard> I've fixed my builroot build :]
[16:33] <Wizard> And tuned it a bit :]
[16:40] <Creto> Dear, kubuntu users are finding that the muon in version 4.12?
[16:41] <Creto> sorry 12.04*
[16:41] <lordievader> Creto: I'm sorry, are you asking what version of muon kubuntu 12.04 is using?
[16:42] <lordievader> If so it is 1.3.1
[16:45] <Creto> lordievader: do not ask if they think the muon is good because I did not think much
[16:45] <Wizard> BTW, I fixed my yesterday QT Creator problem, I had to choose "custom triplet", and change -unknown to -powerpc
[16:45] <lordievader> Creto: I don't like muon either, I use synaptic instead.
[16:45] <lordievader> or apt-get
[16:45] <Wizard> What's muon?
[16:46] <lordievader> The kde package manager.
[16:46] <Wizard> Ah, so I use it when it notifies me about updates :)
[16:46] <Creto> I had to update kubuntu through apt-get not because they wanted to but because he fought the muon
[16:46] <Joit> lordievader: well i think so far it dont mess with the packages, one is good like the other. its only different to use. but still wonder why they didnt keep kpackage
[16:47] <Vitalis> I just installed kubuntu 12.04 on my PC. I wanted to dual boot with windows, but the grub menu is not coming up. If I do sudo update-grub, it says found windows enviroment, but it does not load. How can I fix grub so it comes up?
[16:47] <Wizard> Kpackage is still alive?
[16:48] <Joit> i dunno wizard, i only wonder about
[16:48] <Wizard> I remember it existed since KDE 1.
[16:48] <Joit> seems like its one from the features, to get all few years a new surface for soem programs
[16:49] <Creto> Joit: sorry but the muon is buggy, crashes a lot and is too slow compared to the synaptic
[16:49] <Joit> its still at the package list Wizard
[16:49] <Wizard> Joit: kpackage? :D
[16:49] <Wizard> I see only kpackageki
[16:50] <Joit> i did not have a lot problems right now with muon credo, i have more problems with java, and crash reqong and firefox all time
[16:50] <Wizard> t
[16:50] <Joit> yea wizard
[16:50] <Wizard> Joit: I don't think if package manager is responsible for these kind of problems :(
[16:51] <Joit> yes, i think that too, but i could more complain about java as over muon
[16:52] <Wizard> Hmm.
[16:52] <Joit> i spend a half day now reinstall java6 and 7 but no success
[16:52] <Joit> and muon did help me with that :P
[16:52] <Wizard> :)
[16:53] <Wizard> Since today I didn't even know it exists. I allways use apt-get for package tasks.
[16:53] <Wizard> s/Since/Until/
[16:54] <tobiasBora> Bonjour,
[16:54] <Joit> Wizard: well i am lazy guy and use the gui
[16:55] <tobiasBora> Hello !
[16:55] <Joit> HELLO tobiasBora !! !!!
[16:55] <Joit>  - )
[16:55] <Wizard> hi tobiasBora
[16:55] <lordievader> I am a lazy guy too, that is why I use apt-get :P
[16:56] <tobiasBora> I've a problem : with the update of kubuntu I cannot use the short key because khotkeys isn't installed, and we cannot install it !
[16:56] <Joit> i wish i had more time to concentrate again more on the commands in the konsole
[16:57] <Joit> tobiasBora:  why not? do you have your sources not proper installed?
[16:57] <su_> ok i have another question - i'm in ubuntu.12.04 and installed the k desktop. I have the classic launch menu and would like to edit it. Is there something like the "main menu" editor from gnome2 in kde?
[16:57] <tobiasBora> Joit: I think all my sources are ok :
[16:58] <lordievader> su_: Right click the menu, edit applications
[16:58] <Joit> then whats your error when you try to install it?
[16:58] <su_> ahh! thanks so much! :)
[16:58] <tobiasBora> Joit: http://paste.ubuntu.com/996097
[16:59] <tobiasBora> Joit: and this is the error message when I try to install it : http://paste.ubuntu.com/996099
[17:02] <Joit> tobiasBora:  yes, i dont get a result too, when i look for khotkeys at muon, seems its not implemented
[17:02] <tobiasBora> Joit: and can you use the screenshot ?
[17:02] <tobiasBora> II found this kde-workspace, maybe it is ?
[17:02] <Joit> tobiasBora:  ksnapshot yes
[17:04] <Joit> tobiasBora: there is a other program called hotkeys, its maybe handy for you?
[17:04] <tobiasBora> Joit: I don't understand
[17:05] <Joit> tobiasBora: there is an other program , called hotkeys for multimedia keyboards
[17:05] <Joit> apt-get -install hotkeys ?
[17:06] <tobiasBora> I'll try
[17:06] <Joit> or. tobiasBora what part you dont undertsnad, ksnapshot or hotkeys?
[17:06] <Joit> i assume hotkeys :P
[17:06] <tobiasBora> yes hotkeys.
[17:07] <tobiasBora> In fact, when I go in the Klauncher (with right click) and I go to edit application, I've an error message :
[17:07] <tobiasBora> Impossible de contacter « khotkeys ». Vos changements ont été enregistrés mais impossible de les activer.
[17:08] <tobiasBora> => Impossible to contact "khotkeys". Your saving have been saved, but it's impossible to active its.
[17:08] <Wizard> o_O
[17:08] <tobiasBora> Even with hotkeys installed
[17:09] <tobiasBora> (and khotkeys is inexistant)
[17:09] <Joit> tobiasBora:  seems its allready installed by me
[17:10] <tobiasBora> Joit : you mean ?
[17:10] <Joit> http://judsonsnotes.com/notes/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=637:trying-kde-for-the-first-time&catid=37:tech-notes&Itemid=59
[17:11] <Joit> he says, Open the Application Launcher menu and type "khotkeys" and ..
[17:12] <Joit> you may try a search at the menu above in the kde menu
[17:14] <tobiasBora> Joit: I've the configuration of the keyshort with this, but after it doesn't work..
[17:14] <tobiasBora> because it doesn't find khotkeys
[17:14] <tobiasBora> Joit, when you do "sudo apt-cache search khotkeys", what have you ?
[17:15] <Joit> no result, only a new prompt
[17:16] <Wizard> When I press alt+f2 and type khotkeys it spits only Configuration of keyboard shortcuts.
[17:17] <Joit> i cant find the package too with apt-get install
[17:17] <Wizard> It's part of system settings.
[17:17] <tobiasBora> Wizard: yes I agree.
[17:17] <Wizard> And system settings say it is a service, not an application.
[17:17] <Wizard> Nothig strange you cannot find it in repo :S
[17:18] <tobiasBora> Wizard: and why a service can be unusable ?
[17:18] <Joit> yeah wizard, i figured the same out at the moment
[17:18] <Joit> its at kde implemented
[17:18] <Wizard> Maybe it's configuration is screwed.
[17:18] <Wizard> tobiasBora: look at ~/.xsession-errors.
[17:19] <Wizard> Maybe you'll find something interesting there.
[17:19] <Joit> i could figure, that your keyboard or locales is not proper configured
[17:20] <Wizard> o_O
[17:20] <tobiasBora> Wizard: this is my error file : http://paste.ubuntu.com/996129
[17:20] <Joit> just guessig :P
[17:21] <Wizard> tobiasBora: did you find anything interesting in it?
[17:21] <tobiasBora> this line : kcmshell(31654)/khotkeys: Failed to contact kded [ "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown" ]: "The name org.kde.kded was not provided by any .service files"
[17:22] <tobiasBora> sorry, I've to leave...
[17:22] <tobiasBora> Thanks for your help and if you I've an idea tell me please
[17:22] <Wizard> After you leave? :D
[17:23] <Wizard> I would try removing khotkeysrc from <
[17:23] <Joit> his nick may still stay with us
[17:23] <Wizard> uh.. from ~/.kde/share/config
[17:59] <tobiasBora> Me and my nick come back !
[18:00] <tobiasBora> Wizard: I tried this : mv khotkeysrc khotkeysrc_bak , but when I open again the configuration file, it is the same think...
[18:01] <Wizard> tobiasBora: :(
[18:01] <Wizard> Than I really don't know what's wrong.
[18:02] <Wizard> Try #kde or brows forum.kde.org.
[18:02] <Wizard> Maybe somebody's already reported it.\
[18:03] <tobiasBora> Wizard:   :-\  I'll try... When I use ps -aux I see : leo       3035  0.0  0.4  85784 17384 ?        S    19:59   0:00 /usr/bin/kcmshell4 khotkeys
[18:04] <Wizard> Hmm.
[18:04] <Wizard> Hmm, maybe it works, but your former configuration is lost after upgrade?
[18:06] <tobiasBora> The screenshot configuration stay no ? But when I go in the setting, I see my last setting, so it's not lost no ?
[18:07] <Wizard> Hmm
[18:07] <Wizard> Than I'm out of ideas. Sorry, tobiasBora.
[18:08] <tobiasBora> Wizard: ok, thanks ^^
[18:10] <Wizard> tobiasBora: I didn't help you much.
[18:11] <tobiasBora> Wizard: you tried and that's nice ^^ but you you have kubuntu 12.04 ?
[18:11] <Wizard> Yes.
[18:11] <Wizard> On two machines.
[18:11] <Wizard> At work I still use Lucid.
[18:11] <Wizard> I didn't have time to update.
[18:12] <Wizard> And, to be honest, I'm a bit worried.
[18:12] <lordievader> Wizard: Of a failing upgrade?
[18:13] <Wizard> No. Of a problems with new kernel and new drivers.
[18:14] <Wizard> I also have alot of non-repo java apps installed.
[18:14] <Wizard> (I'm a full time java coder)
[18:14] <lordievader> For me that falls in the category upgrade fail...
[18:14] <tobiasBora> Wizard: you can use linux at work ? Nice !
[18:14] <tobiasBora> lordievader: what ?
[18:15] <Wizard> I'm one of three guys who do that :)
[18:15] <Wizard> Rest use windblows 7.
[18:15] <tobiasBora> Wizard: and you can do a screen shot or use the shortcut edit from Klauncher ?
[18:15] <lordievader> tobiasBora: Problems with new kernel/new drivers fall, for me, in the category upgrade fail.
[18:16] <tobiasBora> lordievader: ok
[18:16] <lordievader> Windows 7 is quite allright, hell of a lot better than Vista XD
[18:16] <Wizard> Yeah, especially that at work I have a asus laptop.
[18:16] <Wizard> They put horse shit in these computers, I bet.
[18:16] <windbuntu> they still use xp pro where i work
[18:16] <tobiasBora> assus has many dark hardware ?
[18:17] <Wizard> I haven't use xp much.
[18:17] <lordievader> Wow, that is quite a while ago...
[18:17] <lordievader> I kind of grew up on WinXP XD
[18:17] <Wizard> Hmm..
[18:17] <Wizard> Let's move this to #kubuntu-offtopic
[18:46] <Ecrof> Hi
[19:05] <Guest42155> hi there, I've just installed Kubuntu, but GRUB fails and displays the message "No such partitions", may somebody help me? I'm using the LIVE CD right now
[19:06] <Guest42155> anyone_
[19:08] <Guest96519> Guest42155: I'm by no means an expert, but you did select a partition to install GRub to, during install?
[19:09] <Guest42155> yes
[19:09] <Guest42155> /dev/sda
[19:09] <Guest42155> /dev/sda1 is where / is mounted
[19:10] <cancer> Hi guys :D
[19:11] <AD> I wound up defining a couple of hundred meg as /boot partition.
[19:11] <AD> /dev/sda2 in my case as the drive shares with Windows.
[19:12] <cancer> L3top: hey
[19:13] <Guest42155> but it should work anyways right_
[19:13] <L3top> grub should be installed on the drive, not a partition. Guest42155 did that correctly.
[19:13] <L3top> hi cancer
[19:14] <cancer> L3top: what's up busy man. :)
[19:15] <cancer> L3top: i was wondering about to play with graphic things on my on. :D
[19:15] <Guest42155> im now trying boot-repair
[19:15] <AD> I did say I wasn't an expert L3top. My install wouldn't boot the GUI initially until I defined the /boot partition.
[19:15] <L3top> guest can you boot to  rescue or boot live and chroot to sda1 and run update-grub
[19:16] <L3top> I wasn't busting your chops, just stating for clarity.
[19:16] <L3top> not an ego thing, I lost that in the divorce.
[19:16] <AD> L3top: Noted. More thinking aloud on my part.
[19:19] <cancer> L3top: so have any advice for me.
[19:19] <cancer> !gpu
[19:20] <L3top> Buy a monitor.
[19:21] <L3top> Buy a gpu produced this decade
[19:21] <L3top> this is my best advice.
[19:21]  * AD nudges the laptop out of sight.
[19:21] <AD> What sorta kit is cancer trying to get sorted out?
[19:22] <L3top> your dvi-vga conversion from a terribly discontinued gpu prevents the ability to read the display data it needs.
[19:22] <cancer> L3top: have LCD in mind. dono this card will work with that or not?
[19:23] <L3top> If it has a dvi cable/port... yes
[19:23] <cancer> Yes. that's true.
[19:23] <L3top> however, you might consider getting an updated gpu as well... they aren't very expensive...
[19:23] <L3top> dont get me wrong... I have just heaps of archaic equipment I use constantly...
[19:24] <cancer> well, i'll try some quick experiments which i have not tried yet. maybe that will force it to work.
[19:24] <L3top> cancer: and has been suggested a great number of times, you are likely to get much better results from your onboard card
[19:24] <L3top> without having to generate custom modlines or anything...
[19:25] <L3top> You have 40 hours in trying to get all this to work.
[19:25] <L3top> I have 10.
[19:26] <cancer> L3top: ah, don't ya worry. it's fine. i too understand what all have suggested here. but i like to do experiments. actually graphic is not my need yet. i have other OS 'XP' in which everything works fine.
[19:26] <L3top> These are my recommendations. You can take them or not, and perhaps someone else would like to carry on, but unfortunately, my help is exhausted
[19:28] <cancer> L3top: those 40hr's aren't spend alone by myself and surely i learned and revised an old lesson of same issue. but new time will be less because i have spotted the issue and will not waste time on it. experiments will only bring hand on commands. :) I HAVE NEVER THOUGHT OF ANY WRONG FROM YOU.
[19:30] <CruelCat87> 0hai
[19:31] <CruelCat87> Kubuntu perm hell even with files located on a FAT32. Any help?
[19:32] <L3top> !details | CruelCat87
[19:33] <CruelCat87> Permission hell under K-precise when trying to launch an executable located on a FAT32 partition
[19:33] <CruelCat87> Said executable is OpenTTD Linux Generic 32-bit
[19:34] <L3top> Is the entire drive showing as read only?
[19:34] <CruelCat87> I cannot check the executable bit for particular executable but can manipulate files on the drive
[19:35] <CruelCat87> I never had such poo with Puppy!
[19:35] <L3top> ls -l /path/to/folder
[19:36] <L3top> If you are looking at it in dolphin, you can press ctrl + l to see the path
[19:36] <CruelCat87> I already booted out of k-precise
[19:37] <CruelCat87> talking from chatzilla of firefox on win32
[19:37] <CruelCat87> gah snotbug!
[19:38] <L3top> Well... I am not sure how I can help then if you are unable to look at/test. I mean, you can try running chkdsk -f in windows. But without seeing it from linux side I can only make blind guesses
[19:38] <CruelCat87> Ubuntu 8.04 also had suicidal perm hell on this machine before
[19:39] <CruelCat87> but all traces of 8.04 have been wiped
[19:39] <L3top> So... you are just here to vent, not fix?
[19:39] <L3top> kubuntu-offtopic might be a better place for that
[19:40] <CruelCat87> so I'm not trying Kubuntu 'till permless filesystems are treated as such
[19:40] <L3top> Duly noted. Have a good day.
[19:42] <AD> Nice chap.
[19:43] <cancer> AD: is there any version of IDM'internet download manager' for kubuntu.
[19:44] <AD> I have absolutely no idea. I don't use the program myself.
[19:44] <AD> Is it not a browser plugin, rather than standalone software?
[19:47] <cancer> AD: a download is in process and not downloading at good speed rate. maximum 30kb.
[19:48] <AD> Not filefactory is it?
[19:49] <cancer> yup
[19:49] <cancer> downloading directly from nvidia server
[19:51] <AD> Odd. They've al;ways been pretty rapid in the past.
[19:55] <cancer> How to update Adobe flash player version?
[19:56] <cancer> Yum/tar.gz/apt/rpm?
[19:59] <cancer> How to run '.run' file?
[20:17] <Daskreech> L3top: The Card is screwed. Just tested it
[20:17] <L3top> I feared it might be.
[20:23] <cancer> How to install .run file?
[20:23] <cancer> it's on desktop
[20:24] <L3top> sh /path/to/filename.run
[20:24] <L3top> but if this is for flash
[20:24] <cancer> I have it in home
[20:25] <cancer> not for flash.
[20:25] <cancer> How to update Adobe flash player version?
[20:25] <cancer> Yum/tar.gz/apt/rpm? which file to download
[20:25] <L3top> apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[20:25] <cancer> I'm currently trying to install driver. i have downloaded a file. it's in home & desktop too.
[20:26] <L3top> sh /home/filename.run
[20:27] <L3top> if it is an nvidia driver you will probably want to run sudo.
[20:27] <L3top> what driver have you downloaded?
[20:27] <L3top> actually... nevermind
[20:27] <L3top> I dont want to know
[20:28] <JMichaelX> could anyone here recommend a good flashcard program? i am looking at kwordquiz, but so far it is seeming counter-intuitive
[20:28] <cancer> L3top: i told ya i like to do experiments when i know nothing about something. that's make me learn as well. got books too ;)
[20:30] <L3top> JMichaelX: granule?
[20:30] <JMichaelX> have you used granule?
[20:30] <cancer> sh: Can't open /home/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-270.41.06.run
[20:30] <L3top> once upon a time...
[20:30] <cancer> :D
[20:31] <L3top> cancer chmod +x /home/NV*.run
[20:31] <L3top> sudo
[20:31] <L3top> For my daughter... a while back I grabbed some... I remembered that being the better option
[20:32] <L3top> I think anyway...
[20:32] <L3top> cancer: chmod +x makes a file executable... now you can sudo sh /home/NV*.run
[20:33] <Avihay> JMichaelX: I think Anki is a good flashcard program
[20:33] <JMichaelX> Avihay: i should give that a try... i have seen 'anki droid' in google play
[20:34] <Avihay> it has an impressive repository of free cards
[20:34] <cancer> chmod: cannot access `/Home/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-270.41.06.run': No such file or directory
[20:34] <lordievader> Anyone experiencing lockups when trying to get a laptop in stand-by/sleep/however-it-is-called?
[20:36] <L3top> /home/ not /Home/
[20:36] <cancer> lordievader: how to stop x? i tried 'sudo kill all startx' and ran the nvidia driver but setup telling to stop that.
[20:37] <lordievader> cancer: You are running kubuntu right? sudo service kdm stop
[20:37] <L3top> cancer: sudo service kdm stop; pkill X
[20:37] <cancer> L3top: i just did this 'sudo ./nvidia.....run' and it worked and then the x thing to stop.
[20:37] <JMichaelX> cancer: multiple problems. 'killall' is one word, and in kde, it would be better to use 'sudo service kdm stop'
[20:38] <cancer> execute this command from 'tty'?
[20:38] <L3top> yes cancer.
[20:38] <lordievader> cancer: Killall should also be used with caution, it kills everything it can find...
[20:39] <lordievader> No one here running kubuntu on their laptop?
[20:39] <L3top> I am
[20:40] <lordievader> L3top: You don't get lockups when trying to enter sleep mode?
[20:40] <L3top> I do not.
[20:41] <lordievader> L3top: Lucky you, it is quite annoying...
[20:41] <L3top> I disable it on lid close because I don't like my workers sleeping... it is a tyrannical thing... but while it was enabled it worked
[20:41] <L3top> lordievader: what is your wireless card?
[20:41] <JMichaelX> in kwordquiz, it allows you to set the keyboard layout for each column... but it does not seem to do anything. it would be great if keyboard layout automatically changed for each column, according to how that column was configured
[20:42] <lordievader> I don't got that enabled either, I changed my sleep knob to a script, the way through the menu would not put it to sleep, it would do nothing
[20:42] <L3top> I find those sorts of things almost always are related to how it interacts with wireless
[20:42] <lordievader> Now I just use pm-suspend.
[20:43] <lordievader> L3top: What is a good command to find that out?
[20:43] <L3top> I see... no I really have nothing to complain about on kubu precise. Everything, dare I say it, "just works".
[20:43] <L3top> lspci | grep Wireless
[20:44] <L3top> or lspci | grep WLAN
[20:44] <lordievader> Both don't give anything, but I guess it is the Intel Corporation Centrino Advanced-N 6205
[20:45] <lordievader> Under Network controller
[20:45] <L3top> it doesnt always... wireless doesnt really have anything common and identifying
[20:46] <L3top> (as opposed to VGA for instance)
[20:46] <lordievader> "Advanced-N" Gotta be the wifi I would say.
[20:47] <lordievader> Anyhow I have been testing it quite a few times now (5+) and everytime it just goes to sleep....
[20:48] <cancer> now how to delete this file: etc/modprob.d/"nvidia-installer-disable-nouveau.conf"?
[20:48] <cancer> cannot delete it.
[20:49] <lordievader> cancer: Use sudo to delete it, a normal user doesn't have rw permission in things outside home.
[20:49] <L3top> well... it wouldnt have quotes first of all
[20:49] <cancer> L3top: i quote the file:D
[20:50] <cancer> actually, tried to be more clear.
[20:50] <L3top> etc has a / in front of it and modprobe has an e at the end... ls /etc/modprobe.d      and see that the file exists
[20:50] <lordievader> L3top: Lol you almost look like a grammer-nazi XD
[20:51] <cancer> L3top: yes file exist. i tried to shift del it.  but access denied
[20:51] <lordievader> Just a whole different kind of grammer.
[20:51] <L3top> spelling counts in linux... not my fault
[20:51] <L3top> cancer you are trying to delete it from dolphin
[20:51] <L3top> dolphin does not have permission to do such
[20:51] <cancer> yes
[20:52] <lordievader> Unless you launch dolhin with: kdesudo dolphin
[20:52] <lordievader> I.e. a root dolphin :)
[20:52] <L3top> correct... but... it would just be safer, and the same amount of effort, to use the terminal
[20:52] <lordievader> Jup.
[20:53] <L3top> sudo rm /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-inst*.conf
[20:53]  * L3top is lazy and globs everything
[20:53] <cancer> who's on the glob doing that?
[20:54] <L3top> what?
[20:54] <L3top> The shell interprets the glob... if that is your question
[20:56] <cancer> that driver installer created that file to disable 'nouveau'. so those driver didn't help, they don't want to be on the install kubuntu path of my machine. that's why i asked to how to remove them
[20:56] <cancer> they are removed.
[20:57] <lordievader> cancer: If you are not entirely comfortable in bash/terminal/konsole you should read up on it. It will make your life in linux a whole lot easier!
[20:58] <cancer> do i need to run this command. apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
[20:58] <lordievader> cancer: I'm lost, what are you trying to do, remove or install the nouveau driver?
[20:59] <cancer> lordievader: if you mean by getting command on terminal, the answer is YES, :D but in Xp. i'm a learner more a newbie learner. i love terminal.
[21:00] <lordievader> Cmd in windows is crap compared to bash IMO...
[21:00] <cancer> lordievader: nothing, do you know the file i have removed was created by nvidia installed to disable nouveau to load i think. that's all. i have removed that file. just asked if that command needs to run once more.
[21:00] <lordievader> :source /home/lordievader/.byobu/profile
[21:00] <lordievader> :source /home/lordievader/.byobu/profile
[21:01] <lordievader> Why does F5 print all that stuff...
[21:01] <cancer> lordievader: yes in windows xp. that was good once from 3.1 to 98.
[21:02] <cancer> F5 seems to not answering.
[21:02] <lordievader> Scince when does ubuntuforums got a new look actually?
[21:02] <lordievader> cancer: The F5 thing was byobu doing wierd thing....
[21:03] <lordievader> cancer: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1909108
[21:06] <cancer> yes, and a qoute from there 'The best way to learn the command line is to use the command line.' it's isn't complete. :-p
[21:06] <cancer> lordievader: how i can reset fon't size of rekonq
[21:06] <cancer> ?
[21:07] <lordievader> cancer: No idea, I don't use rekonq... Why isn;t the quote complete?
[21:08] <cancer> lordievader: forget that.
[21:09] <cancer> lordievader: can i remove rekonq and then just reinstall it?
[21:09] <lordievader> cancer: I guess, make it purge (it'll delete config files too)
[21:11] <cancer> lordievader: i think i have spent more time on windows. this linux will take time. i don't know i have for it.
[21:11] <cancer> anyway. i'll be back after a restart. want to see what i did with my linux :D
[21:15] <lordievader> cancer: Welcome back.
[21:16] <cancer> Thanks :)
[21:16] <cancer> yes, everything on it's place.
[21:16] <cancer> sudo apt-get install firefox    <-- is that right
[21:17] <lordievader> cancer: Seems about right.
[21:18] <cancer> lordievader: i happened to find in 'K' mozilla firefox browser installer and now it's running. you know Y?
[21:19] <lordievader> cancer: It's because a lot of people want firefox, so the devs made it easy to install it. (Why not just preinstall it is beyond me)
[21:19] <lordievader> Anyhow I'm off to bed, cya all.
[21:41] <Guest17721> ola
[23:00] <guest12345> ok, so here's the challenge...Can I stream audio that is currently playing on my computer to another computer on my lan?
[23:00] <guest12345> I can't quite figure out how to do it with vlc
[23:01] <guest12345> (commandline)_
[23:04] <Daskreech> guest12345: yes
[23:04] <Daskreech> look into icecast
[23:05] <Daskreech> As I recall Amarok had it built in but removed it to a plugin
[23:06] <Daskreech>  Almost sure that Tomahawk has that built in as well Though  I'll admit here that I've never used either Tomahawk or that feature
[23:07] <Daskreech> Amarok also had a plugin that created a jukebox webserver from your library that you can pull up and control from any web interface.  Also there was a KDE screensaver that allowed you to overlay your music and music controls on top of it which could be synced across the network.
[23:08] <Daskreech> The idea being you have a party and there were "jukeboxes" around the party that allowed people to enque and play music without messing with the actual computer. sort of a communal DJ setup
[23:08] <giantpune> hi, have you guys any suggestions for a different archive extractor than the default one in kubuntu?
[23:09] <Daskreech> giantpune: yes we do
[23:09] <giantpune> basically when i click some archive it opens up and shows the list of files.  it lets you select multiple files.  but when you drag one into dolphin, only 1 of them is extracted.
[23:10] <Daskreech> giantpune: as I recall there is an option at the top for single file or multiple filesw
[23:11] <guest12345> Daskreech, thanks for the suggestions!  I'll give you a little more info...  My wife wants to play grooveshark.com songs on her computer, but have the audio streamed to the stereo, where we have a mythtv computer hooked up to...
[23:12] <Daskreech> guest12345: so you want the raw audio from the sound card piped across the network?
[23:12] <guest12345> Daskreech, So I am trying to do it in a 'generic' sense
[23:12] <Daskreech> since I presume it's a browser providing the audio ?
[23:12] <guest12345> Daskreech, Exactly
[23:13] <guest12345> Daskreech, I thought vlc could capture asla or pulse and do a --sout to a http stream, but that doesn't appear to be working.. though, it may be me that is doing something wrong
[23:14] <giantpune> Daskreech, im not seeing an option like that in Ark
[23:14] <Daskreech> guest12345: My jerking knee is squeaking out jack but pop into #videolan and see if they have a vlc suggestion. I'd think they have something that could provide that
[23:15] <giantpune> it lets me select multiple files in the archive.  but as soon as i start to drag 1 of them, all the others are deselected :(
[23:15] <guest12345> Daskreech,  thanks!
[23:28] <giantpune> what is the default archive tool front-end for regular ubuntu?  maybe ill give that one a shot
[23:29] <Daskreech> Nautilus
[23:30] <giantpune> its built into the file manager then?  that might not work out too well.  i didnt want to replace all of dolphin
[23:31] <Daskreech> !info squeeze
[23:31] <Daskreech> You can try that
[23:34] <giantpune> file-roller looks promising
[23:38] <giantpune> nope.  neither file-roller or squeeze allow me to select multiple items and extract them by dragging
[23:40] <zacarias> does someone know how to connect a mac to your Kubuntu 12.04 folders (direct ethernet connection)? I can connect Kubuntu to the mac, but not the opposite.
[23:42] <Daskreech> How are you connecting Kubuntu to the mac?
[23:43] <guest12345> zacarias: (don't on a mac) can you use a sshfs?
[23:43] <Daskreech> guest12345: first thing I thought
[23:44] <guest12345> zacarias: (on->own)
[23:44] <zacarias> guest12345: how do I do that?
[23:45] <zacarias> Daskreech: I just connect to the mac via ssh (with Unison, Doplhin, etc)
[23:45] <zacarias> Dolphin
[23:46] <guest12345> zacarias: another thought is samba shares
[23:46] <giantpune> nfs
[23:46] <guest12345> zacarias:  depends on what you are trying to accomplish
[23:46] <Daskreech> giantpune: oh. Umm you can use Dolphin as an archive manager
[23:47] <Daskreech> if that makes your life easier
[23:48] <guest12345> giantpune:  doesn't ark let you do that?
[23:49] <giantpune> when i did "dolphin ./someArchive.tar.gz"  it opens a dolphin window.  then it opens Ark
[23:49] <giantpune> it doesnt show much of anything in the newly opened dolphin window.  the Ark window opens the archive just like it always does
[23:49] <zacarias> giest12345: Well, I don't see my Kubuntu computer on the mac's Finder list of available servers. But when I try to connect to it (using the IP address) it gives me several errors (wrong passord or username and connection errors). I tried smb://ip.add.ress, ftp://ip.add.ress, afp://ip.add.ress, and nothing
[23:49] <Daskreech> giantpune: You have to enable handle archive in the dolphin config
[23:50] <Daskreech> giantpune: Look under Navigation
[23:50] <zacarias> guest12345: the message above was for you (I mispelled your nick)
[23:51] <Daskreech> giantpune: In general anything that ark can open Dolphin will be able to as well. I can't promise that it will handle password protected rar files well
[23:51] <Daskreech> !tab
[23:51] <guest12345> zacarias: did you setup samba on your kubuntu machine?
[23:51] <Daskreech> zacarias: You can type gue and ppress tab to get the full namne
[23:51] <guest12345> Daskreech: Thanks I didn't know that either!
[23:51] <zacarias> Daskreech: thanks!
[23:52] <Daskreech> zacarias: What mac release?
[23:53] <zacarias> guest12345: I'm not sure. The samba shares tab on the system configuration doesn't say much. I set the sharing permissions on my home folder to "shared"
[23:53] <zacarias> Daskreech: 10.6.8
[23:54] <guest12345> zacarias: ok, I'm not entirely familiar with what that does...  When I setup samba, it was a process of creating samba users and editing the smb.conf file
[23:55] <Daskreech> http://blog.philippklaus.de/2011/07/sshfs-on-mac-os-x-10-6-8-with-fuse4x/
[23:55] <zacarias> guest12345: the smb.conf? I'll look for that
[23:55] <zacarias> Daskreech: I'll take a look
[23:56] <guest12345> zacarias: what exactly are you trying to accomplish?  sshfs might be the easiest thing for you to setup, it is secure and should be pretty easy to setup, but might be slow
[23:57] <zacarias> guest12345: just connect to my home folder on Kubuntu from my mac. Of course I can make almost everything the opposite way, but..
[23:58] <Daskreech> hooray for flexibiilty of macs
[23:58] <guest12345> zacarias: is 10.6.8 lion? leopard?  ?
[23:59] <guest12345> personally, I would never buy a mac...too much proprietary bs