[00:24] <Picto> hi, why i have "414 frames in 5.0 seconds = 82.722 FPS"
[00:25] <Picto> typing glxgears
[00:25] <Picto> can everywone help me?
[01:19] <keithclark> Any one about to ask a ssh question to?
[01:19] <Unit193> Just ask away, you don't have to wait.
[01:20] <Unit193> (Except waiting fgor a response)
[01:21] <keithclark> I'm trying to run a x application via ssh session and I'm not having much luck.  I've installed openssh and I can establish a good connection but when I try to run an application like Firefox, it defaults to a local copy
[01:21] <Unit193> Weird thing about Firefox, you have to close all local copies first.
[01:21] <Unit193> ssh -X host-here   I'd guess?
[01:21] <keithclark> Well let me try that!
[01:22] <keithclark> Yes
[01:24] <keithclark> Well, that seemed to work!  Many thanks.
[01:24] <Unit193> Yeppers!
[01:25] <keithclark> Weird
[02:35] <n1ckn4me09876543> Hey, you know how lubuntu comes with 2 workspace/desktop that can be switch inter changeably, and when you put shortcuts it shows on both, what I'd like is to have independent shortcuts, is that possible?
[02:37] <pibarnas> n1ckn4me09876543, I think not, because the shortcuts in fact are made on the same dir, probably ~/Desktop. but it's just  a thought.
[02:38] <n1ckn4me09876543> oic
[05:30] <mi3> hi!
[05:34] <sagaci> hi!
[05:36] <half-duplex> hi!
[05:37] <mi3> hi!
[05:37] <mi3> hi!
[05:37] <mi3> hi!
[05:37] <mi3> lol
[07:07] <windbuntu> i have been testing lubuntu 12.04 in a VM and its really great
[07:07] <windbuntu> so far its much better than ylmf, zorin, netrunner and dream linux.
[07:08] <seekwill> :)
[07:08] <windbuntu> zorin is supposed to be so good? pffft...
[07:08] <windbuntu> so far ubuntu 12.04 and lubuntu are the best by far.
[07:10] <head_victim> jmarsden: ping
[07:10] <jmarsden> head_victim: pong
[07:10] <head_victim> PM ok?
[07:10] <jmarsden> Sure.
[08:22] <dove_g> ZorinOS is also ubuntu based, windbuntu
[08:25] <dove_g> i checked also use gnome and lxde as lubuntu
[08:26] <dove_g> so main goal is i suppose that people from windows get used to linux
[14:57] <kanliot> hey i wrote a governance document like we've been discussing on the mailing list, can someone please give me some feedback or corrections?
[14:57] <kanliot> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/tempgovernance
[15:19] <Gunz4MiPPle> just installed lubuntu, but there is no keyring/password manager running
[15:19] <kanliot> minimal?
[15:19] <zion> mates I just installed Lubuntu 12.04 ,updated it and tried Firefox/Chromium  with flash plugin and google chrome with their flash plugin. I´m having same problem. Firefox and Chromium play flash clips without problems but flash games (only games I play lately) are so sluggish and slow compared to Windows 7 and LinuxMint 12 (LXDE). GChrome is worse the those two giving black flash on animations. So my question is ; Any tips why is this happening
[15:19] <zion>  ? Im not sure that proper drivers are installed on lubuntu for my crappy ATi Radeon (R350 ) card,but its working flawlessly on W7 and Mint 12 .
[15:20] <Gunz4MiPPle> no not minimal, it might because I installed using my old home dir, and there are old configs laying around
[15:23] <Gunz4MiPPle> zion, did you try running 'additional drivers'
[15:24] <zion> Gunz4MiPPle: yes,but there is none
[15:25] <Gunz4MiPPle> hmm
[15:25] <zion> Only thing that bothers me is that its working on LinuxMint 12 ,Fedora 16 and Windows 7 . Cant figure out why Ubuntu /lubuntu is giving me problems
[15:27] <zion> I´ll try this http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Legacy/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.12&lang=English
[15:27] <zion> Maybe it will work ,but I doubt it
[15:27] <Gunz4MiPPle> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver ?
[15:29] <zion> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RV350 AS [Radeon 9550] [1002:4153]
[15:29] <Gunz4MiPPle> i had prob with Nvidia 6150GO and 12.04s drivers, but at least there was a huge thread about it on launchpad and was able to fix it
[15:30] <zion> Geez so Ill have a blast tweaking it to work...
[15:32] <Gunz4MiPPle> zion, if there is a problem, its probably not a lubuntu, but a problem with all the stuff based on 12.04, too
[15:32] <Gunz4MiPPle> so I bet others are having it, and you can find a bug report
[15:33] <zion> Yea ,well Ill google some more and try to fix it .If I cant manage its back to mint  :/
[16:03] <leszek> hi
[16:04] <Unit193> Hello leszek.
  I just installed fglrx and everything is fine :D
[16:08] <kanliot> hi leszek want to review my governance document?
[16:08] <kanliot> please
[16:08] <Gunz4MiPPle> zion: thats awesome, video driver issues no fun
[16:09] <zion> Gunz4MiPPle : I agree,most turn offs on linux distro was because of hardware issues :) Im glad this got fixed
[16:11] <leszek> kanliot: sure
[16:11] <kanliot> http://bryanhates/governance#preview
[16:11] <kanliot> oops
[16:11] <kanliot> http://bryanhates/governance#preview
[16:12] <zion> Btw  I know that Lubuntu is lacking devs but still why only 18 months support?
[16:12] <Unit193> Might be better off in #lubuntu-offtopic since it's not suppoert (and that doubles as -devel)
[16:12] <Unit193> zion: Because they can't actually do more.
[16:13] <leszek> zion: basically you need devs to maintain the applications shipped with the current version
[16:13] <kanliot> leszek sorry that was my local pc https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/tempgovernance
[16:13] <leszek> kanliot: link does not work
[16:13] <leszek> :)
[16:13] <leszek> this one works
[16:13] <kanliot> lol
[16:13] <Unit193> zion: Though, it's only LXDE that won't be updated.
[16:15] <zion> Unit193 can you explain ,isnt Lubuntu basicly LXDE on ubuntu 12.04 with some minor adjustments?
[16:16] <leszek> zion: LXDE needs to be maintained and alle apps shipped by default in Lubuntu, i.e. abiword, lubuntu software center and all the other apps. And they need to be supported in their current version. As version upgrades are not allowed, as far as I know
[16:18] <zion> one last question,performance is my main issue due to old PC (P4 northwood 2.66 GHZ HT,3 GB Ram and ATi RV 350 x1050 ) .If I install ubuntu 12.04 and replace Gnome with LXDE would performance be like Lubuntu?
[16:20] <kanliot> LXDE's main feature is pcmanfm and less ram that xfce
[16:20] <kanliot> you won't be using either of those features with gnome
[16:20] <leszek> zion: yes this should work
[16:21] <kanliot> and mint still offers gnome
[16:21] <leszek> but notice applications shipped as default by lubuntu are more lightweight
[16:21] <Unit193> There's also the !purelubuntu method.
[16:25] <zion> Well I like Lubuntu ,but ill try Ubuntu with LXDE.Btw if I instal lxde does nautilus gets replaced by thunar?
[16:27] <leszek> kanliot: I think the governance document ist quite good. Did not find anything to add to it
[16:27] <kanliot> k thx leszek
[16:32] <Gunz4MiPPle> what should the default password keyring be, 'default' or 'login', that might be my problem
[16:33] <Gunz4MiPPle> right now, 'login' is the default
[16:33] <Gunz4MiPPle> and its pretty much empty
[18:14] <smile> doei! :)
[18:14] <zleap> ok does lubuntu run lxde or a similar named ui
[18:15] <bioterror> !lubuntu
[18:15] <zleap> lxde,  ok  thought so
[18:15] <zleap> ok just installed lubuntu-desktop 11.10 and it loads super fast compared to unity
[18:15] <smile> ;)
[18:16] <zleap> ok on task switch alt-tab,  how do i get a show desktop thing up like i have under unity
[18:16] <zleap> this is really useful to just getting to the desktop quickly
[18:19] <windbuntu> does lubuntu have the ability to utilize a dual core computer?
[18:20] <zleap> i would have thought the kernel would have if you have the right kernel installed
[18:20] <jmarsden> windbuntu: Yes
[18:20] <windbuntu> i am using 12.04 and i did not change or modify the kernal-i used the default kernal i guess you would say.
[18:21] <windbuntu> well in my VM i am not atm
[18:21] <jmarsden> windbuntu: So what exactly is your issue or problem?
[18:21] <windbuntu> i don't think i have one, i just asked a question.
[18:22] <jmarsden> OK... great :)  You can check what CPU cores your OS sees by doing cat /proc/cpuinfo if necessary
[18:23] <windbuntu> so u mean...sudo cat /proc/cpuinfo
[18:23] <windbuntu> like that?
[18:23] <jmarsden> No need for sudo.  Just what I said.   cat /proc/cpuinfo
[18:23] <windbuntu> ok
[18:23] <windbuntu> thats pretty advanced if uses all the cores
[18:24] <jmarsden> It's normal for Linux to use all cores on multicore CPUs, and has been for years :)
[18:24] <bioterror> jmarsden, nice to see you active here again ;)
[18:25] <windbuntu> should be very fast on a dual core, i am testing now on my vm but my ultimate goal is to install it in my hp laptop which has a dual core turion amd cpu, ati graphics and 2 gigs of ram.
[18:25] <zleap> ok my panel menu has somehow moved to the right hand side, how do move it back to the left
[18:25] <Unit193> Yeah, only bummer is he left because it takes up valuable time.
[18:25] <windbuntu> i hope lubuntu like amd and ati
[18:26] <windbuntu> likes*
[18:27] <jmarsden> bioterror: Thanks... I'm doing some application development at home at the moment and decided to stick around on IRC a bit here...
[18:27] <windbuntu> thanks for the info...bye for now.
[18:27] <jmarsden> windbuntu: You're welcome.
[18:31] <zleap> ggrrrrr
[18:31] <zleap> ok my panel has gone fully now can anyone help please
[18:37] <Unit193> zleap: Is the process still running? You can either restart it, or start it up.
[18:38] <zleap> ok
[18:38] <zleap> i got it now
[18:39] <zleap> brb,  i have no minimise button on xchat now
[19:31] <seekwill> Anyone play with Lubuntu in a VBox over NFS?
[19:32] <wxl> seekwill: i think i have
[19:32] <wxl> been a while tho
[19:33] <seekwill> I just set that up... Interesting
[19:33] <wxl> indeed
[19:33] <seekwill> I wonder how many of these I can set up though
[19:34] <wxl> i found few programmatic limits to vbox ;)
[19:34] <seekwill> Yeah, but Vbox is a bit easy to set up
[19:34] <seekwill> I normally use Fusion and ESXi
[19:35] <seekwill> My idea was using this as a test/qa/support environment
[19:35] <wxl>  makes sense
[19:36] <seekwill> I wonder if iSCSI will give me more throughput than NFS
[20:03] <Aft3rmath> With this new update on Lubuntu, I can't "Enable Wireless"
[20:03] <Aft3rmath> :(
[20:08] <seekwill> Aft3rmath: What's the problem?
[20:37] <Gege71> hello
[20:38] <Gege71> i just installed a fresh 12.04 lubuntu, because upgrade from 11.10 completely crashed ...
[20:38] <Gege71> but  i have now some bugs : no network applet
[20:38] <Gege71> any reason for that ?
[20:39] <Unit193> The program used by default should be nm-applet
[20:39] <Unit193> Check if it's installed, or hit Alt+f2 and runit
[20:40] <Gege71> nm-applet is runing (ps -fe)  , but it doesn't show up
[20:41] <Gege71> and something strange : when i try to add "network manager" from lxpanel properties, lxpanel crashes
[21:13] <Gege71> ok i  found the problem : nm-applet is here, but its icon is "invisible"... i only have to know where exactly to right click :)
[21:13] <Gege71> good night ...
[21:20] <x3oo> hi, ive got broken dependencies with updatemanager for two days
[21:21] <x3oo> or more, is anyone experiencing similar problems?
[21:22] <seekwill> x3oo: For?
[21:23] <x3oo> update-manager
[21:23] <x3oo> the sources are alright
[21:23] <x3oo> i use oneiric
[21:24] <x3oo> there are unmet dependencies between update-manager and update-manager-core
[21:25] <x3oo> i am downloading from main server...
[21:26] <x3oo> apt-get -f install oder --reinstall dont work either...
[21:26] <x3oo> it just asks for different versions
[21:29] <x3oo> could this be the work of malware?
[21:29] <seekwill> What error are you getting?
[21:30] <LordOfTime> x3oo:  pastebin the actual errors
[21:30] <x3oo> mah ok
[21:30] <LordOfTime> because those error messages could just mean you need to apt-get update again
[21:30] <LordOfTime> just in case
[21:31] <LordOfTime> or you're using one too many repos, or there's an actual broken version
[21:31] <x3oo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/994202/
[21:31] <x3oo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/994218/
[21:31] <x3oo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/994227/
[21:32] <LordOfTime> updatenotifier-common and update-manager-core are conflicting...
[21:32] <LordOfTime> !info update-notifier-common oneiric
[21:33] <LordOfTime> !info update-manager-core oneiric
[21:33] <LordOfTime> yeah update-notifier is the package that's preventing the update it seems
[21:34] <x3oo> so what? update-manager depends on notifier
[21:35] <LordOfTime> the versions are different
[21:35] <LordOfTime> hmm
[21:35]  * LordOfTime wonders
[21:35] <x3oo> yeah thats what i said, and they're from mainserver...
[21:36]  * LordOfTime checks current bugs against both packages
[21:37] <LordOfTime> eek
[21:37]  * LordOfTime notices a new CVE bug on one of the packages he helps maintain
[21:41] <x3oo> LordOfTime: what does it mean for me? just wait a couple of days?
[21:42] <x3oo> "mean to me" or "mean for me"
[21:46] <LordOfTime> ignore that last part
[21:46] <LordOfTime> because i was just whining (more work)
[21:46] <LordOfTime> but i will double chekc on that "bug" for you
[21:46] <LordOfTime> but i've got to deal with the security bug in another package first
[21:51] <x3oo> LordOfTime: nah, thanks anyway
[21:52] <LordOfTime> x3oo:  can you do me a favor and apt-get update before you try and upgrade again?
[21:52] <LordOfTime> just to check
[21:52] <x3oo> LordOfTime: did it a hundred times...
[21:52] <LordOfTime> and still nothing?
[21:52] <x3oo> with apt-get clean etc...
[21:52] <x3oo> nope
[21:53] <LordOfTime> hmm, sounds like it could be a bug, but... *shrugs*
[21:54] <x3oo> kkk
[21:54] <LordOfTime> for all i know, that might've been reported and fixed in Precise, but *shrugs*