[16:50] <shahriar86> hi Tuhin_
[16:50] <shahriar86> person or bot?
[16:51] <Tuhin_> hi shahriar86 
[16:51] <Tuhin_> I am a bot
[16:51] <shahriar86> hi Tuhin_
[16:51] <Tuhin_> not
[16:51] <shahriar86> :)
[16:51] <shahriar86> it would have been fun to talk to a smart bot
[16:51] <Tuhin_> u attended the meeting on thursday?
[16:51] <Tuhin_> some IRC have smart bots.
[16:52] <shahriar86> I was late
[16:52] <Tuhin_> i remembered in morning and forgot by evening...got busy with other stuff...
[16:53] <shahriar86> :)
[16:53] <shahriar86> its better to keep reminder in mobile
[16:53] <Tuhin_> so which linux u r on?
[16:53] <shahriar86> I usually do this now...
[16:53] <shahriar86> kubuntu 10.04
[16:53] <Tuhin_> my mobile battery is also dieing...it turns off if it vibrates..
[16:53] <Tuhin_> have to look for battery
[16:54] <shahriar86> :)
[16:54] <Tuhin_> when is EOL for Kub 10.04?
[16:55] <shahriar86> 15
[16:55] <shahriar86> 2015
[16:55] <Tuhin_> i have decided to change distro from Ubuntu based Mint to Debian based something
[16:55] <shahriar86> debian is late
[16:55] <shahriar86> that's a problem
[16:56] <shahriar86> **debian release is long waited
[16:56] <Tuhin_> i downloaded so many apps over my slow 128kbits and now i cant get latest version of some apps
[16:56] <shahriar86> ohh
[16:56] <Tuhin_> i already found my fix i think
[16:56] <shahriar86> which distro you want to try next?
[16:56] <Tuhin_> if i install Ubuntu 12.04LTS, then i have to redownload all the apps again...dont want to DL all again
[16:57] <Tuhin_> http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=solusos
[16:57] <Tuhin_> i installed it in USB and its very fast and smooth
[16:57] <Tuhin_> based on Debian Stable
[16:58] <shahriar86> Tuhin_: its actually an old issue
[16:58] <shahriar86> if you upgrade you have to redownload/upgrade other apps
[16:58] <shahriar86> any distro you try
[16:58] <Tuhin_> yes i know... but when i tried to compile the app coz its not in repo,,, i failed to compile...
[16:59] <shahriar86> humm
[16:59] <Tuhin_> so Debian is next
[16:59] <shahriar86> :)
[16:59] <Tuhin_> Ubuntu based distros r good for starting/learnign  basics
[16:59] <shahriar86> I suppose google might have answer for you
[16:59] <shahriar86> humm
[16:59] <Tuhin_> the compile command said i dont have zlib installed...
[16:59] <Tuhin_> while i had latest version installed
[17:00] <shahriar86> I don't like debian because its slow in upgrade/update (though I'm using LTS now a days)
[17:00] <Tuhin_> u should give SolusOS a try...
[17:00] <Tuhin_> it's based on stable + Latest apps
[17:00] <shahriar86> Tuhin_: to tell the truth I have outgrown distro hopping stage
[17:01] <Tuhin_> i hae distro hopping too..
[17:01] <shahriar86> I'm very basic user, with very basic need
[17:01] <Tuhin_> thats why i wnat to settle with a distro which i wouldn't have to format
[17:01] <shahriar86> any abc distro with a browser and a office productivity suit is suffice for me
[17:01] <Tuhin_> i am also basic user with some Gaming need
[17:02] <shahriar86> he he
[17:02] <shahriar86> I thought gaming was easy in ubuntu
[17:02] <Tuhin_> i need to install and play the game i like...
[17:02] <Tuhin_> yes it is 
[17:02] <Tuhin_> till the game is no longer in offer in the repository...coz there is a new Ubuntu version...only for that is the new version available
[17:03] <Tuhin_> new versions of apps only available to "latest" ubuntu
[17:03] <Tuhin_> so 10.10 didnt get the app while 10.04 , 11.10 had it
[17:04] <shahriar86> don't they have ppa to solve such issue?
[17:04] <Tuhin_> while 10.10 still didn't EOLed
[17:04] <Tuhin_> i didnt find the app anywhere
[17:04] <shahriar86> 10.10 is eol
[17:04] <Tuhin_> i tried to get the app since Decamber
[17:04] <shahriar86> oops
[17:04] <shahriar86> :P
[17:05] <shahriar86> I supposed the dev stopped supporting a soon to be eol version?
[17:05] <Tuhin_> so i tried to compile...and failed
[17:05] <shahriar86> anyway
[17:05] <shahriar86> good luck with soluos?
[17:05] <shahriar86> *solusos
[17:05] <Tuhin_> its very goo
[17:05] <Tuhin_> d
[17:06] <Tuhin_> u can try it from Live USB
[17:06] <Tuhin_> then install in a small 5GB 
[17:07] <shahriar86> hummm
[17:07] <shahriar86> then you should start using it soon enough
[17:08] <shahriar86> I for one is gonna stick to kubuntu
[17:08] <shahriar86> had been here since 08
[17:08] <shahriar86> my first once was 07
[17:08] <shahriar86> *ubuntu
[17:09] <Tuhin_> what other distro u tried?
[17:10] <shahriar86> none
[17:10] <shahriar86> told you
[17:10] <shahriar86> :P
[17:10] <shahriar86> I never installed other distro, always ran live version
[17:10] <shahriar86> fedora and mint
[17:11] <shahriar86> debian once
[17:11] <Tuhin_> me too
[17:11] <Tuhin_> never tried fedora though
[17:11] <shahriar86> in the beginning all of them are similar
[17:11] <shahriar86> at advance level they are a bit different
[17:11] <shahriar86> and I'm very basic person
 Tuhin_: to tell the truth I have outgrown distro hopping stage
[17:12] <shahriar86> yah
[17:12] <shahriar86> it was a short lived one :P
[17:12] <Tuhin_> i thought u tried aLOT of distors...
[17:12] <shahriar86> nope
[17:12] <Tuhin_> what CPU/GFX/RAM u r using with Kubuntu
[17:12] <shahriar86> none of my fellow member could convince me to try other
[17:13] <Tuhin_> i heard KDE needs too much resources and never dared download any KDE distro
[17:13] <shahriar86> p4 fx5200 & 524
[17:13] <Tuhin_> 524 ?
[17:13] <shahriar86> not ideal for gaming right?
[17:13] <shahriar86> :P
[17:13] <Tuhin_> not bad
[17:13] <shahriar86> 512.
[17:13] <shahriar86> sorry
[17:14] <Tuhin_> KDE runs fien in that?
[17:14] <Tuhin_> fine*
[17:14] <shahriar86> yah
[17:14] <shahriar86> for tasting purpose I ran it on 256
[17:14] <Tuhin_> hmm then u dont open lots of apps same time i guess
[17:14] <shahriar86> nah
[17:14] <Tuhin_> ran fine with 256MB ram?
[17:15] <shahriar86> it worked
[17:15] <Tuhin_> it will work... but from what i heard not comfortably
[17:15] <shahriar86> though it did not actually ran
[17:15] <shahriar86> nah
[17:15] <Tuhin_> ok
[17:15] <Tuhin_> which ISP u r using
[17:16] <shahriar86> fraudband
[17:16] <shahriar86> don't ask
[17:16] <shahriar86> its a old pain
[17:16] <shahriar86> never found a decent package
[17:16] <shahriar86> though I am meaning to shift to wireless... sadly there is no solution for linux
[17:16] <shahriar86> :(
[17:16] <Tuhin_> fraudband? local
[17:16] <Tuhin_> why not?
[17:16] <Tuhin_> i musing Wimax
[17:17] <shahriar86> fraudband= broadband who are funtion as a fruadster
[17:17] <Tuhin_> with ethernet
[17:17] <shahriar86> which service?
[17:17] <Tuhin_> local broadband r like that i always thought
[17:17] <shahriar86> xnet?
[17:17] <Tuhin_> i signed up as soon as they had coverage in my area...
[17:17] <Tuhin_> 128kbits @ 690tk per month
[17:18] <Tuhin_> Banglalion Wimax
[17:18] <shahriar86> you gotta share the trick
[17:18] <Tuhin_> 1st 1-2 months coverage was v v bad.. but i kept waiting
[17:18] <shahriar86> people don't know how to make them work in linux
[17:19] <Tuhin_> thr trick is.. i didnt get the USB Dongle ...
[17:19] <Tuhin_> o bought the full big wimax modem
[17:19] <Tuhin_> with ethernet out+wifi
[17:19] <Tuhin_> then i put a 1Gbit Switcha nd connected 
[17:20] <Tuhin_> one of my friend did succeed to make Citycell USB dongle work with Mint10
[17:20] <shahriar86> humm
[17:21] <shahriar86> so now you are happy with bl service?
[17:21] <shahriar86> what's your location?
[17:22] <Tuhin_> Khilgao
[17:22] <Tuhin_> they removed the 128kbit package 1-2 month after i got it :)
[17:22] <shahriar86> ohh
[17:22] <Tuhin_> now their packages r too expensive...with limits
[17:22] <Tuhin_> i have 128kbits  unlimied
[17:23] <shahriar86> humm
[17:23] <shahriar86> so still using old offer :P
[17:23] <shahriar86> nice
[17:23] <Tuhin_> yes
[17:26] <shahriar86> are you student? or working
[17:26] <shahriar86> the irc seems dead... just because different people comes to it on different time fram
[17:26] <shahriar86> *time frame
[17:26] <Tuhin_> yes
[17:26] <shahriar86> Barebone: hi
[17:26] <shahriar86> you bot?
[17:27] <Tuhin_> no
[17:27] <shahriar86> humm
[17:27] <Tuhin_> 2 bots ...
[17:27] <shahriar86> tanvir bhai is sleeping I suppose
[17:27] <Tuhin_> maybe afk
[17:28] <Tuhin_> u know him?
[17:28] <shahriar86> hummm
[17:28] <shahriar86> know him from irc only
[17:28] <shahriar86> not personally
[17:29] <Tuhin_> ah me too
[17:29] <Tuhin_> where do u live?
[17:29] <shahriar86> did you read the log of thursday night?
[17:30] <shahriar86> earth
[17:30] <Tuhin_> i read some, but didnt finish
[17:30] <shahriar86> bangladesh
[17:30] <shahriar86> dhaka
[17:30] <shahriar86> dohs baridhara
[17:30] <shahriar86> *missed south asia
[17:30] <shahriar86> :P
[17:30] <Tuhin_> it seems they were talking about starting a Martimonial website/service...
[17:31] <Tuhin_> so what was the outcome of the meeting?
[17:32] <shahriar86> ??
[17:32] <shahriar86> matrimonial website/service?
[17:32] <shahriar86> where?
[17:32] <shahriar86> still did not get that far
[17:32] <Tuhin_> i read in the irc log...
[17:32] <Tuhin_> i didnt finish reding... got bored
[17:32] <shahriar86> only outcome so far is that they want to restart the forum
[17:33] <Tuhin_> .....
[17:33] <Tuhin_> i expected more
[17:33] <shahriar86> and want to reorganize writting of tutorial
[17:33] <shahriar86> Tuhin_: fact is the group's backbone is shattered
[17:33] <shahriar86> it will take long time to reorganize
[17:33] <shahriar86> and restart on a new path
[17:33] <Tuhin_> Unmatal Tarunno didnt talk 
[17:34] <Tuhin_> it seemed to me...
[17:34] <shahriar86> there are some reasons why old gunners won't talk
[17:34] <Tuhin_> what is the reason of shattered community?
[17:35] <shahriar86> if you love something so much and then get hurt for the same reason it does not serve you right in the future
[17:35] <shahriar86> not sure whether you are familiar with the present condition of Bangladeshi community
[17:35] <Tuhin_> the people among whom there was rift, they joined the meeting yesterday?
[17:35] <shahriar86> Bangladeshi public blogs are dread example
[17:36] <shahriar86> yah
[17:36] <shahriar86> joined and were silent observer
[17:36] <Tuhin_> hm
[17:36] <Tuhin_> what happened to blogs??
[17:36] <Tuhin_> i dont read them
[17:37] <Tuhin_> sometimes read in the past....
[17:37] <shahriar86> he he
[17:37] <shahriar86> if you have ample time you should read them just to pick on how corrupt our morals are
[17:37] <shahriar86> *or just for the sake of fun
[17:37] <shahriar86> nothing bro
[17:37] <shahriar86> its just this that people like to bitch
[17:37] <shahriar86> and they get fun to actually get personal and fight over small stuff
[17:38] <Tuhin_> i like to read about international REAL news 
[17:38] <shahriar86> the lifo forum was a big part of the community after it broke things came to halt
[17:38] <shahriar86> that's it
[17:38] <shahriar86> humm
[17:38] <Tuhin_> u know the parties at BD works to the tune of USA/UK/EU etc....
[17:38] <shahriar86> not the truth
[17:39] <shahriar86> parties of bd works for their pocket
[17:39] <shahriar86> irrespective of which country the money comes from
[17:39] <shahriar86> :P
[17:39] <Tuhin_> there r slight difference....
[17:39] <shahriar86> usa/uk/eu has limited interest in bd
[17:39] <Tuhin_> ALeage working to get South-Asian Union done....with India at the helm
[17:40] <shahriar86> they have larger player among india and pakistan
[17:40] <shahriar86> now their next target is srilanka
[17:40] <shahriar86> since the war siezed its now working to restructure their nation
[17:40] <Tuhin_> their target is South-Asian Uniom + making a South-Asian Army.....
[17:41] <shahriar86> I'm not good with politics
[17:41] <shahriar86> it might be true
[17:41] <Tuhin_> its not politics..its their plan
[17:41] <Tuhin_> they want BD, PAkistan, Srilanka,Burma, NEpal,Bhutan, etc to form SouthAsian Union
[17:42] <Tuhin_> and South Asian ARMY
[17:42] <Tuhin_> to fight against China.....
[17:42] <Tuhin_> its much much bigger news than anything people thinking about
[17:43] <shahriar86> :)
[17:43] <shahriar86> well its an old news actually
[17:43] <Tuhin_> if they succeed intheir plan ... and makes All south asia to fight with china.. then there will be huge casualty
[17:43] <Tuhin_> this is not only it
[17:43] <Tuhin_> u heard abotu NWO?>
[17:44] <shahriar86> nwo?
[17:44] <shahriar86> no
[17:44] <shahriar86> I'm not much of keen reader
[17:44] <Tuhin_> New World Order
[17:44] <shahriar86> actually I've gone off the grid for too long
[17:44] <shahriar86> humm
[17:44] <Tuhin_> the colonial powers want to implement One World Government
[17:44] <Tuhin_> i m off the grid too.... i 
[17:45] <Tuhin_> the various (international)news that we see/read n papers r mostly fake/lies/manufactured
[17:46] <Tuhin_> papers+TV news medai...all r liers
[17:46] <Tuhin_> media*
[17:46] <shahriar86> yah
[17:46] <shahriar86> some of them don't realize they are selling the lies
[17:46] <Tuhin_> https://www.google.co.uk/search?sugexp=chrome,mod=1&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=medvedev+warns+of+nuclear+war
[17:47] <shahriar86> but the fact is unless we solve our house problem we can't worry about the begger on the street
[17:47] <Tuhin_> don't know what you think, but 9/11 was done by CIA+Mossad
[17:47] <shahriar86> I'm more concerned about country than international affairs
[17:47] <Tuhin_> there is something very important which misses the eye that way.....
[17:48] <Tuhin_> BD taka is dependent on US $ value
[17:48] <shahriar86> yes
[17:49] <shahriar86> but if you really think about it, the case should not be such a big deal
[17:49] <Tuhin_> US$ have been devaluing for Decades...so BD Gov also have been "Printing" more taka so that taka dont rise in value
[17:49] <Tuhin_> and this in turn is causing price of EVERYTHING to rise for.....DECADES
[17:49] <shahriar86> the problem lies we are more focused on importing then making them in our country
[17:50] <shahriar86> to be frank there are many bangladeshi products that are good in quality
[17:50] <Tuhin_> thats exactly what the colonial powers want.....
[17:50] <shahriar86> still we buy foreign goods
[17:50] <Tuhin_> they makes our gov do as they say..by World Bank, Imf etc
[17:50] <shahriar86> nah I don't agree with you
[17:50] <shahriar86> first point
[17:50] <shahriar86> I as a consumer get to decide which product I want to buy
[17:51] <Tuhin_> India dont show any bd tv channels there...why our gov lets indian movies to be shown in our cinema halls...
[17:51] <shahriar86> and if the producer wishes they can make business and with good quality
[17:52] <shahriar86> did you ever wonder that why we as a viewer prefer english and hindi movie and not Bangla teleflim?
[17:52] <Tuhin_> and if the manufactures have big money, they can fool people into believing that their inferior products r best
[17:52] <shahriar86> as a consumer if you prefer your own national product govt can't stop you
[17:52] <shahriar86> don't agree with you
[17:53] <shahriar86> if you consider there are many example which are good product
[17:53] <Tuhin_> ok , tell me which is better ..  Intel P4 3Ghz or  AMD AthlonXP 3000
[17:53] <shahriar86> such as ottobi, brothers, nazma, sun,
[17:53] <shahriar86> so on
[17:53] <shahriar86> amd athlon xp 3000
[17:53] <Tuhin_> yes
[17:54] <Tuhin_> but intel makes people buy their products...
[17:54] <Tuhin_> people need to be more informed.....
[17:54] <shahriar86> may be if you compare them with pringels lays or cosmo then you may think they are inferior
[17:54] <shahriar86> but do you think they are really inferior quality?
[17:55] <Tuhin_> no
[17:55] <shahriar86> as a buyer/consumer you hold the right to decide which product to buy
[17:55] <Tuhin_> the things present Gov doing is against all logics...
[17:55] <shahriar86> yes intel does force you to buy their product but still you can find option to buy amd product
[17:55] <shahriar86> don't you?
[17:56] <Tuhin_> increased tax such that Japanese reconditioned cars costs more than Indian new low quality cars
[17:56] <shahriar86> hell you decided to dump windows and switch to linux
[17:56] <shahriar86> why?
[17:56] <shahriar86> because you chose your own distro
[17:56] <shahriar86> you wanted to use what you like
[17:56] <Tuhin_> most people dont have the knowledge to understand that AMD is better
[17:56] <shahriar86> the buyer the consumer have the ultimate power
[17:56] <shahriar86> that's the thing
[17:57] <shahriar86> most people don't care much
[17:57] <Tuhin_> only when they know the truth
[17:57] <shahriar86> :)
[17:57] <Tuhin_> yes thats right
[17:57] <shahriar86> and whose fault is it?
[17:57] <Tuhin_> most ppl dont care
[17:57] <Tuhin_> the system.....
[17:57] <shahriar86> if I as a consumer don't want to open my eye and choose my own product its my failure
[17:58] <shahriar86> not the fault of the govt. not the fault of external agencies
[17:58] <shahriar86> its solely my fault
[17:58] <Tuhin_> yes
[17:59] <Tuhin_> people trying to change the Gov's mind ...but the Gov is not changing....
[17:59] <Tuhin_> making BD part of SAU
[17:59] <Tuhin_> india will be the main power in SAU....
[18:00] <Tuhin_> we will lose what we gained in 1971 AND 1947...
[18:37] <sagir42> সালাম
[18:37] <sagir42> আপনারা সবাইকে কেমন আছেন?
[18:38] <Tuhin_> walaikum salam sagir42