| bazhang | nice work floodbot | 01:03 |
|---|---|---|
| ubottu | In #ubuntu, Malsasa said: ubottu: oh, thanks. It is new for me | 02:48 |
| bazhang | Malsasa, no need to join here for that | 02:51 |
| === ldunn_ is now known as ldunn | ||
| bazhang | Malsasa, please dont idle here | 03:02 |
| ubottu | FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (repeated abuse from pilotbub) | 03:09 |
| bazhang | <pilotbub> whats the release date for duplicitous dung-beetle | 03:09 |
| solderblob | ok, ikonia is a child | 14:32 |
| solderblob | community chan my ass | 14:32 |
| solderblob | lulz | 14:32 |
| ikonia | solderblob: if you calm down, I'm sure this can be resolved. | 14:32 |
| solderblob | I was calm | 14:32 |
| solderblob | you start sh.t | 14:32 |
| LjL | solderblob: if you're here to appeal a ban, do it civilly | 14:32 |
| ikonia | no, you are not | 14:32 |
| ikonia | just calm down and I'm sure this can be resolved in a matter of minutes | 14:33 |
| solderblob | LjL, sure | 14:33 |
| solderblob | sorry, Im just annoyed that ikonia is banning people because he does not like the way the community supports people | 14:33 |
| solderblob | he "TOLD me" to do it his way | 14:33 |
| ikonia | solderblob: if you'll allow me to explain | 14:33 |
| solderblob | well, you jumped in mid conversation and complained, I did agreed. | 14:34 |
| ikonia | solderblob: I requested you slowed down and started listening to the problem of the people you are trying to help | 14:34 |
| solderblob | please. explain. | 14:34 |
| solderblob | you did NOT request ANYTHING! | 14:34 |
| solderblob | you "TOLD ME" | 14:34 |
| ikonia | the person you where throwing videos at to "help" them, had a slightly more complex issue as they where using fake raid (as I'm finding out now) | 14:34 |
| solderblob | I gave him a video as a helper | 14:34 |
| ikonia | so throwing the info at them before understanding the problem, especially things like videos isn't going to help them | 14:34 |
| solderblob | I also showed him a url with text | 14:34 |
| solderblob | I was ALSO talking to him | 14:35 |
| ikonia | solderblob: sure, but it's the same principal | 14:35 |
| ikonia | you are trying to solve without understanding the issue | 14:35 |
| solderblob | you came in mid conversation. | 14:35 |
| ikonia | I asked you to slow down and focus on the issue before advising | 14:35 |
| ikonia | you said no | 14:35 |
| ikonia | you told me to piss off | 14:35 |
| ikonia | I told you then, you said no | 14:35 |
| solderblob | same principle, you told me, some vague thing, you said nothiing about videos | 14:35 |
| ikonia | I then asked you again | 14:35 |
| ikonia | I banned you | 14:35 |
| solderblob | YOU did NOT ask | 14:35 |
| ikonia | you then started telling me to fuck myself in #ubuntu | 14:35 |
| solderblob | you told | 14:35 |
| ikonia | you then started telling me to fuck myself in #ubuntu-offtopic | 14:35 |
| solderblob | you said "IM telling you" | 14:35 |
| solderblob | look at the logs | 14:36 |
| ikonia | solderblob: the first time I asked, I only told you after you tols me to "piss off" and "no" | 14:36 |
| solderblob | you came in mid coversation | 14:36 |
| solderblob | conversation | 14:36 |
| ikonia | yes, I did | 14:36 |
| ikonia | totally agree | 14:36 |
| ikonia | I only stepped in because you where throwing information at him that was useless | 14:36 |
| solderblob | why do I have to take your way of explaining stuff? | 14:36 |
| LjL | solderblob: nothing wrong with "coming in mid conversation" if there's something that needs to be said. | 14:36 |
| solderblob | LjL, agreed, but he started out with a smart ass comment | 14:37 |
| solderblob | (yes that is my opinion) | 14:37 |
| ikonia | it wasn't a smart comment | 14:37 |
| solderblob | but it was "stop that" | 14:37 |
| ikonia | it was a request to slow down and read the problems before advising | 14:37 |
| solderblob | it was a "stop doing that" not a suggestion... | 14:37 |
| ikonia | 15:28 < ikonia> solderblob: can you stop dishing out random advice to people and actually try to listen to the problems | 14:38 |
| ikonia | that is not "stop that" | 14:38 |
| solderblob | if there is a class i have to take before I answer question, let me know. I specifically asked in #ubuntu-offtopic, they said go ahead. | 14:38 |
| ikonia | you then told me to "piss off" | 14:38 |
| solderblob | I have my way, you have yours, why is yours better? | 14:38 |
| ikonia | ok, I'm stepping away now as you clearly want to be smart on this | 14:38 |
| ikonia | LjL: if you chose to finish this, thank you | 14:38 |
| solderblob | <ikonia> solderblob: can you stop dishing out random advice to people and actually try to listen to the problems | 14:39 |
| solderblob | ^"stop" | 14:39 |
| solderblob | that is not polite | 14:39 |
| solderblob | "actually try to listen" | 14:39 |
| LjL | solderblob: it's simple, his way is "better" because he's an operator here. part of an operator's job is to tell good from bad support, and bad support in #ubuntu can easily be worse than no support. | 14:39 |
| solderblob | please | 14:39 |
| solderblob | if you say so. Its your chan | 14:40 |
| solderblob | please was directed at ikonia not LjL | 14:40 |
| solderblob | his way is better because he is an op... that is not a qualification. but ok. | 14:41 |
| solderblob | I was being polite, he was rude...I was rude back, and I was kicked. lulz. | 14:41 |
| LjL | solderblob: there's a difference between what he said and what you said. "piss off" is just not acceptable | 14:42 |
| solderblob | I agree | 14:42 |
| solderblob | I escalated it | 14:42 |
| solderblob | but what he said was rude | 14:42 |
| ikonia | just for the record | 14:42 |
| ikonia | 15:31 <solderblob> lulz, fucking child. | 14:42 |
| solderblob | not a justification, just a fact | 14:42 |
| ikonia | I also got that in pm | 14:43 |
| solderblob | yes, after you kicked me from the room, you were being a child | 14:43 |
| solderblob | i said that in #offtopic | 14:43 |
| solderblob | and then you kicked me there | 14:43 |
| ikonia | that was also sent to me in a private message | 14:43 |
| solderblob | ikonia, pm because you kicked me from all places | 14:43 |
| ikonia | I will again back away now | 14:43 |
| solderblob | that is childish | 14:44 |
| solderblob | ikonia, you should have been polite | 14:44 |
| LjL | solderblob: take your own advice, and don't swear at people following them even in offtopic channels to do it. | 14:44 |
| LjL | solderblob: he wasn't "rude", he was firm. you were rude. | 14:44 |
| solderblob | LjL, I will hold the swearing down.. | 14:44 |
| solderblob | he was rude, come on | 14:45 |
| solderblob | he did even say hi, i dont know who this guy si | 14:45 |
| solderblob | is* | 14:45 |
| solderblob | its suppose to be a community chan | 14:45 |
| mneptok | solderblob: i want you to read something you said carefully, OK? | 14:45 |
| solderblob | sure | 14:45 |
| mneptok | 08:40 < solderblob> if you say so. Its your chan | 14:45 |
| solderblob | right | 14:45 |
| solderblob | it is | 14:45 |
| mneptok | solderblob: "rude" or not, you do as ops request | 14:45 |
| solderblob | I respect that, i was talk to LjL when i said that... | 14:46 |
| mneptok | solderblob: you don't like it? you disagree? come here. | 14:46 |
| mneptok | solderblob: but "he interrupted" and "he was rude" are no excuses for the reaction you had. | 14:46 |
| mneptok | solderblob: even if they are true. | 14:47 |
| solderblob | mneptok, a) I didnt know he was an op, ops dont usually act that way in the chans I hang in, b) I though he asked me to do it, not told me, his words... | 14:47 |
| mneptok | solderblob: ikonia *did* ask | 14:47 |
| mneptok | solderblob: "can you stop?" is not the same as "you will stop now." | 14:47 |
| solderblob | and i said no | 14:48 |
| mneptok | no, you said "08:28 < solderblob> ikonia, piss off, I am listen, thank you | 14:48 |
| solderblob | because it didnt make any sense, and he rude, it wasnt even advice, it was an insult, who are you kinding | 14:48 |
| mneptok | such language and attitude is clearly against the Code Of Conduct | 14:48 |
| solderblob | he said nothign about videos.....>? | 14:48 |
| mneptok | !coc | 14:48 |
| ubottu | The Ubuntu Code of Conduct is a community etiquette document to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere | http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/ | For information on how to electronically sign the CoC, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SigningCodeofConduct | Watch http://static.screencasts.ubuntu.com/videos/2010/12/22/004-SigningCoC.ogv | 14:48 |
| solderblob | mneptok, I do not deny the language thing... | 14:49 |
| solderblob | is that why I got kicked? the language? | 14:49 |
| mneptok | solderblob: and it is against channel rules. it does not matter if ikonia is an op or not. | 14:49 |
| solderblob | or because i disagree? | 14:49 |
| mneptok | solderblob: the language, and the hostile attitude. | 14:49 |
| solderblob | mneptok, agreed, keep the language civil, my bad | 14:49 |
| solderblob | mneptok, I agree, i should have just said, thank....and ignored him | 14:50 |
| solderblob | thanks* | 14:50 |
| solderblob | no? | 14:50 |
| solderblob | polite.. | 14:50 |
| solderblob | politely* | 14:50 |
| mneptok | solderblob: understand, i cannot know ikonia's motivations. but language and attitude would have to change before you convinced *me* to unban you. | 14:50 |
| solderblob | I dont care if Im unbanned | 14:51 |
| mneptok | solderblob: i think ikonia thinks similarly. look at how he started the conversation here. | 14:51 |
| mneptok | 08:32 <+ikonia> solderblob: if you calm down, I'm sure this can be resolved. | 14:51 |
| mneptok | 08:33 <+ikonia> just calm down and I'm sure this can be resolved in a matter of minutes | 14:51 |
| solderblob | ok, in here | 14:52 |
| mneptok | solderblob: it has now been far more than a few minutes. and the reason is the exact same as what got you in trouble in #ubuntu. you need to type less and read more. | 14:52 |
| solderblob | the comment that started this mneptok was | 14:52 |
| solderblob | < ikonia> solderblob: can you stop dishing out random advice to people and actually try to listen to the problems | 14:52 |
| solderblob | *actually try to listen* | 14:52 |
| solderblob | sorry, didnt know you could hear what i was listening to... | 14:53 |
| solderblob | that is why this happened | 14:53 |
| mneptok | solderblob: OK, you still want to type and type and explain and explain and mitigate and mitigate ... rather than take the time to understand I AM TRYING TO HELP YOU. | 14:53 |
| mneptok | so, i will stop trying. enjoy your day. | 14:54 |
| solderblob | i give advice on irc all day...and Im a sysadmin of 60 servers, and 20 workstation, linux only. Not try to brag, sure you guys have same or more experience, but that comment is why we are here. | 14:54 |
| * mneptok goes AFK | 14:54 | |
| solderblob | lulz | 14:54 |
| solderblob | mneptok, well, Im just trying to explain. clearly I do not hang in the #ubuntu chans often... Guess there should be a list of social rules... | 14:55 |
| solderblob | how to kiss ass to ops | 14:55 |
| solderblob | or plea for forgiveness | 14:55 |
| ikonia | solderblob: conversation over, please leave the channel and come back when your attitude improves | 14:55 |
| ikonia | I'll make a note in the log | 14:55 |
| bazhang | solderblob, lets stop this please | 14:55 |
| solderblob | or use a proxy to get back in | 14:55 |
| solderblob | lulz | 14:55 |
| ikonia | @mark #ubuntu-ops solderblob bad bad attitude and langauge, suggestion to evade ban | 14:56 |
| ubottu | The operation succeeded. | 14:56 |
| ikonia | @mark #ubuntu-ops solderblob sending more abuse in pm | 14:56 |
| ubottu | The operation succeeded. | 14:56 |
| ikonia | solderblob: we are done here for the moment, please leave. | 15:43 |
| ikonia | hi IAmNotThatGuy | 17:35 |
| IAmNotThatGuy | Hello ikonia | 17:35 |
| ikonia | hi there, is there something we can help you with ? | 17:35 |
| Unit193 | ikonia: Lubuntu OP. | 17:36 |
| ikonia | ahh, not identified then, as there is no + | 17:36 |
| ikonia | thanks Unit193 | 17:36 |
| Unit193 | He is, just not added to autovoice. | 17:36 |
| IAmNotThatGuy | ikonia, I was a bit busy with the office works and missed adding myself to the channel and forgot to follow up regarding the completion of the process. | 17:37 |
| ikonia | must get that sorted | 17:37 |
| ikonia | sorry IAmNotThatGuy | 17:37 |
| IAmNotThatGuy | np ikonia :] | 17:38 |
| ikonia | ah, you're listed as Mohan-chml in #lubuntu access list, I wonder if you've been setup that way in here | 17:38 |
| === IAmNotThatGuy is now known as Mohan-chml | ||
| ikonia | nope, just not added | 17:39 |
| Unit193 | IAmNotThatGuy is grouped to Mohan-chml. | 17:39 |
| Mohan-chml | Aye | 17:39 |
| === Mohan-chml is now known as IAmNotThatGuy | ||
| ubottu | LordOfTime called the ops in #ubuntu (RrR) | 17:57 |
| ikonia | Unit193: another #lubuntu ? | 18:06 |
| Unit193 | Nope. | 18:06 |
| ikonia | hi jokerdino | 18:06 |
| ikonia | Unit193: thank you, thought we may have had a process hole | 18:06 |
| Unit193 | Sure, any time. | 18:08 |
| ikonia | jokerdino: are you there ? | 18:16 |
| ubottu | bastidrazor called the ops in #ubuntu () | 18:24 |
| ikonia | it's ok | 18:25 |
| === tomtiger11 is now known as botnick | ||
| prateekp | hello | 22:28 |
| ikonia | hello, how can we help ? | 22:28 |
| prateekp | hello ikonia | 22:28 |
| ikonia | can we help you ? | 22:29 |
| prateekp | how to run an .flv file in ubuntu | 22:29 |
| ikonia | you ask in #ubuntu that is the support channel | 22:29 |
| ikonia | this channel is for operator queries. | 22:29 |
| ikonia | do you need anything from the operator team ? | 22:29 |
| prateekp | no one is answering in that ... its a very small issue if u can help | 22:30 |
| ikonia | prateekp: sorry, you need to ask in #ubuntu, that is the support channel | 22:30 |
| ikonia | so unless you need something from the operator team, could you please leave this channel and ask in #ubuntu | 22:30 |
| prateekp | hey what is this ... i am frustated by this attitude of operators . yesterday also i was ignored the same way | 22:31 |
| prateekp | i am very much dissapointed at this attitude of ubuntu community | 22:31 |
| ikonia | prateekp: you need to join #ubuntu, ask for help with your issue and leave this channel | 22:31 |
| IdleOne | prateekp: you are not being ignored, you are being told where to get support. | 22:31 |
| prateekp | i do not get any support there | 22:32 |
| IdleOne | prateekp: you must be patient | 22:32 |
| prateekp | is the issue a big one | 22:32 |
| ikonia | you have not asked in that channel | 22:32 |
| ikonia | if you want support you have to ask in the hcannel | 22:32 |
| ikonia | don't know until it's investigated | 22:32 |
| ikonia | I suggest asking in #ubuntu so someone can investigate it with you | 22:32 |
| prateekp | HOPELESS | 22:33 |
| ikonia | ok, fine | 22:33 |
| ikonia | type /part | 22:33 |
| prateekp | type /part | 22:33 |
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