[01:03] nice work floodbot [02:48] In #ubuntu, Malsasa said: ubottu: oh, thanks. It is new for me [02:51] Malsasa, no need to join here for that === ldunn_ is now known as ldunn [03:02] Malsasa, please dont idle here [03:09] FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (repeated abuse from pilotbub) [03:09] whats the release date for duplicitous dung-beetle [14:32] ok, ikonia is a child [14:32] community chan my ass [14:32] lulz [14:32] solderblob: if you calm down, I'm sure this can be resolved. [14:32] I was calm [14:32] you start sh.t [14:32] solderblob: if you're here to appeal a ban, do it civilly [14:32] no, you are not [14:33] just calm down and I'm sure this can be resolved in a matter of minutes [14:33] LjL, sure [14:33] sorry, Im just annoyed that ikonia is banning people because he does not like the way the community supports people [14:33] he "TOLD me" to do it his way [14:33] solderblob: if you'll allow me to explain [14:34] well, you jumped in mid conversation and complained, I did agreed. [14:34] solderblob: I requested you slowed down and started listening to the problem of the people you are trying to help [14:34] please. explain. [14:34] you did NOT request ANYTHING! [14:34] you "TOLD ME" [14:34] the person you where throwing videos at to "help" them, had a slightly more complex issue as they where using fake raid (as I'm finding out now) [14:34] I gave him a video as a helper [14:34] so throwing the info at them before understanding the problem, especially things like videos isn't going to help them [14:34] I also showed him a url with text [14:35] I was ALSO talking to him [14:35] solderblob: sure, but it's the same principal [14:35] you are trying to solve without understanding the issue [14:35] you came in mid conversation. [14:35] I asked you to slow down and focus on the issue before advising [14:35] you said no [14:35] you told me to piss off [14:35] I told you then, you said no [14:35] same principle, you told me, some vague thing, you said nothiing about videos [14:35] I then asked you again [14:35] I banned you [14:35] YOU did NOT ask [14:35] you then started telling me to fuck myself in #ubuntu [14:35] you told [14:35] you then started telling me to fuck myself in #ubuntu-offtopic [14:35] you said "IM telling you" [14:36] look at the logs [14:36] solderblob: the first time I asked, I only told you after you tols me to "piss off" and "no" [14:36] you came in mid coversation [14:36] conversation [14:36] yes, I did [14:36] totally agree [14:36] I only stepped in because you where throwing information at him that was useless [14:36] why do I have to take your way of explaining stuff? [14:36] solderblob: nothing wrong with "coming in mid conversation" if there's something that needs to be said. [14:37] LjL, agreed, but he started out with a smart ass comment [14:37] (yes that is my opinion) [14:37] it wasn't a smart comment [14:37] but it was "stop that" [14:37] it was a request to slow down and read the problems before advising [14:37] it was a "stop doing that" not a suggestion... [14:38] 15:28 < ikonia> solderblob: can you stop dishing out random advice to people and actually try to listen to the problems [14:38] that is not "stop that" [14:38] if there is a class i have to take before I answer question, let me know. I specifically asked in #ubuntu-offtopic, they said go ahead. [14:38] you then told me to "piss off" [14:38] I have my way, you have yours, why is yours better? [14:38] ok, I'm stepping away now as you clearly want to be smart on this [14:38] LjL: if you chose to finish this, thank you [14:39] solderblob: can you stop dishing out random advice to people and actually try to listen to the problems [14:39] ^"stop" [14:39] that is not polite [14:39] "actually try to listen" [14:39] solderblob: it's simple, his way is "better" because he's an operator here. part of an operator's job is to tell good from bad support, and bad support in #ubuntu can easily be worse than no support. [14:39] please [14:40] if you say so. Its your chan [14:40] please was directed at ikonia not LjL [14:41] his way is better because he is an op... that is not a qualification. but ok. [14:41] I was being polite, he was rude...I was rude back, and I was kicked. lulz. [14:42] solderblob: there's a difference between what he said and what you said. "piss off" is just not acceptable [14:42] I agree [14:42] I escalated it [14:42] but what he said was rude [14:42] just for the record [14:42] 15:31 lulz, fucking child. [14:42] not a justification, just a fact [14:43] I also got that in pm [14:43] yes, after you kicked me from the room, you were being a child [14:43] i said that in #offtopic [14:43] and then you kicked me there [14:43] that was also sent to me in a private message [14:43] ikonia, pm because you kicked me from all places [14:43] I will again back away now [14:44] that is childish [14:44] ikonia, you should have been polite [14:44] solderblob: take your own advice, and don't swear at people following them even in offtopic channels to do it. [14:44] solderblob: he wasn't "rude", he was firm. you were rude. [14:44] LjL, I will hold the swearing down.. [14:45] he was rude, come on [14:45] he did even say hi, i dont know who this guy si [14:45] is* [14:45] its suppose to be a community chan [14:45] solderblob: i want you to read something you said carefully, OK? [14:45] sure [14:45] 08:40 < solderblob> if you say so. Its your chan [14:45] right [14:45] it is [14:45] solderblob: "rude" or not, you do as ops request [14:46] I respect that, i was talk to LjL when i said that... [14:46] solderblob: you don't like it? you disagree? come here. [14:46] solderblob: but "he interrupted" and "he was rude" are no excuses for the reaction you had. [14:47] solderblob: even if they are true. [14:47] mneptok, a) I didnt know he was an op, ops dont usually act that way in the chans I hang in, b) I though he asked me to do it, not told me, his words... [14:47] solderblob: ikonia *did* ask [14:47] solderblob: "can you stop?" is not the same as "you will stop now." [14:48] and i said no [14:48] no, you said "08:28 < solderblob> ikonia, piss off, I am listen, thank you [14:48] because it didnt make any sense, and he rude, it wasnt even advice, it was an insult, who are you kinding [14:48] such language and attitude is clearly against the Code Of Conduct [14:48] he said nothign about videos.....>? [14:48] !coc [14:48] The Ubuntu Code of Conduct is a community etiquette document to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere | http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/ | For information on how to electronically sign the CoC, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SigningCodeofConduct | Watch http://static.screencasts.ubuntu.com/videos/2010/12/22/004-SigningCoC.ogv [14:49] mneptok, I do not deny the language thing... [14:49] is that why I got kicked? the language? [14:49] solderblob: and it is against channel rules. it does not matter if ikonia is an op or not. [14:49] or because i disagree? [14:49] solderblob: the language, and the hostile attitude. [14:49] mneptok, agreed, keep the language civil, my bad [14:50] mneptok, I agree, i should have just said, thank....and ignored him [14:50] thanks* [14:50] no? [14:50] polite.. [14:50] politely* [14:50] solderblob: understand, i cannot know ikonia's motivations. but language and attitude would have to change before you convinced *me* to unban you. [14:51] I dont care if Im unbanned [14:51] solderblob: i think ikonia thinks similarly. look at how he started the conversation here. [14:51] 08:32 <+ikonia> solderblob: if you calm down, I'm sure this can be resolved. [14:51] 08:33 <+ikonia> just calm down and I'm sure this can be resolved in a matter of minutes [14:52] ok, in here [14:52] solderblob: it has now been far more than a few minutes. and the reason is the exact same as what got you in trouble in #ubuntu. you need to type less and read more. [14:52] the comment that started this mneptok was [14:52] < ikonia> solderblob: can you stop dishing out random advice to people and actually try to listen to the problems [14:52] *actually try to listen* [14:53] sorry, didnt know you could hear what i was listening to... [14:53] that is why this happened [14:53] solderblob: OK, you still want to type and type and explain and explain and mitigate and mitigate ... rather than take the time to understand I AM TRYING TO HELP YOU. [14:54] so, i will stop trying. enjoy your day. [14:54] i give advice on irc all day...and Im a sysadmin of 60 servers, and 20 workstation, linux only. Not try to brag, sure you guys have same or more experience, but that comment is why we are here. [14:54] * mneptok goes AFK [14:54] lulz [14:55] mneptok, well, Im just trying to explain. clearly I do not hang in the #ubuntu chans often... Guess there should be a list of social rules... [14:55] how to kiss ass to ops [14:55] or plea for forgiveness [14:55] solderblob: conversation over, please leave the channel and come back when your attitude improves [14:55] I'll make a note in the log [14:55] solderblob, lets stop this please [14:55] or use a proxy to get back in [14:55] lulz [14:56] @mark #ubuntu-ops solderblob bad bad attitude and langauge, suggestion to evade ban [14:56] The operation succeeded. [14:56] @mark #ubuntu-ops solderblob sending more abuse in pm [14:56] The operation succeeded. [15:43] solderblob: we are done here for the moment, please leave. [17:35] hi IAmNotThatGuy [17:35] Hello ikonia [17:35] hi there, is there something we can help you with ? [17:36] ikonia: Lubuntu OP. [17:36] ahh, not identified then, as there is no + [17:36] thanks Unit193 [17:36] He is, just not added to autovoice. [17:37] ikonia, I was a bit busy with the office works and missed adding myself to the channel and forgot to follow up regarding the completion of the process. [17:37] must get that sorted [17:37] sorry IAmNotThatGuy [17:38] np ikonia :] [17:38] ah, you're listed as Mohan-chml in #lubuntu access list, I wonder if you've been setup that way in here === IAmNotThatGuy is now known as Mohan-chml [17:39] nope, just not added [17:39] IAmNotThatGuy is grouped to Mohan-chml. [17:39] Aye === Mohan-chml is now known as IAmNotThatGuy [17:57] LordOfTime called the ops in #ubuntu (RrR) [18:06] Unit193: another #lubuntu ? [18:06] Nope. [18:06] hi jokerdino [18:06] Unit193: thank you, thought we may have had a process hole [18:08] Sure, any time. [18:16] jokerdino: are you there ? [18:24] bastidrazor called the ops in #ubuntu () [18:25] it's ok === tomtiger11 is now known as botnick [22:28] hello [22:28] hello, how can we help ? [22:28] hello ikonia [22:29] can we help you ? [22:29] how to run an .flv file in ubuntu [22:29] you ask in #ubuntu that is the support channel [22:29] this channel is for operator queries. [22:29] do you need anything from the operator team ? [22:30] no one is answering in that ... its a very small issue if u can help [22:30] prateekp: sorry, you need to ask in #ubuntu, that is the support channel [22:30] so unless you need something from the operator team, could you please leave this channel and ask in #ubuntu [22:31] hey what is this ... i am frustated by this attitude of operators . yesterday also i was ignored the same way [22:31] i am very much dissapointed at this attitude of ubuntu community [22:31] prateekp: you need to join #ubuntu, ask for help with your issue and leave this channel [22:31] prateekp: you are not being ignored, you are being told where to get support. [22:32] i do not get any support there [22:32] prateekp: you must be patient [22:32] is the issue a big one [22:32] you have not asked in that channel [22:32] if you want support you have to ask in the hcannel [22:32] don't know until it's investigated [22:32] I suggest asking in #ubuntu so someone can investigate it with you [22:33] HOPELESS [22:33] ok, fine [22:33] type /part [22:33] type /part