=== Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [04:32] ali1234: I found a video of exactly what happens with my G19, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA3rdFelo1U \o/ [04:32] seems like I'm not the only one haha === soreau__ is now known as soreau === chalcedny is now known as chalcedony [07:33] Morning all [07:34] morning [07:41] Morning [07:56] goooood morning [07:56] morning [07:58] :) [08:10] morning [08:13] http://www.spacex.com/webcast/ [08:13] Launch thingy in a few minutes [08:18] cool [08:18] T-37 minutes [08:18] thunderbirds are go! [08:19] Commercial space launches [08:19] This _is_ the future [08:21] * popey wonders if this is on telly anywhere on Virgin [08:22] does anyone else get pauses on flash video on 12.04? [08:22] popey: they're calliing it a webcast [08:22] no pauses for me [08:22] wish i could figure out what causes it [08:23] it stutters every few seconds [08:23] just a brief pause in the playback [08:23] popey: it might be on NASA TV or ESA TV if you can get one of those [08:23] popey: which graphics card? [08:24] popey: a more boring stream is on nasa tv (just the view of the launch platform, not the presenters) [08:25] intel [08:26] full screen doesn't seem to do it [08:26] popey: I'm on Intel graphics as well [08:26] its every 2 seconds [08:27] no stuttering in the stream, audio is fine, just video [08:27] i think it's related to the gpu acceleration [08:27] could it be an a/v sync issue of some kind [08:27] where every 2 seconds the delay triggers a "resync"? [08:27] wait [08:27] my _other_ windows do the delay thing [08:27] while the video is playing [08:30] popey: running compiz? [08:30] or unity [08:34] both === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [08:41] https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-HjK7AkqhplY/T7daeX6g27I/AAAAAAAA8jY/RiVLRybDrWs/w497-h373/Image1.png [08:41] spot on [08:42] hhahaha :) [08:47] doesnt look like virgin carry nasa tv or esa tv [08:48] aww [08:48] I bet XBMC does though :P [08:49] what is the local time at the launch site? [08:49] GMT-5 isnt it? [08:49] Florida [08:50] * popey adds florida to his date/time indicator [08:50] so yeah. 04:50 [08:55] T-0:30 ;) [08:56] abort [08:56] haha [08:56] windoze bsod [08:57] aww [09:02] oh well [09:21] good morning everyone. [09:38] howdy brobostigon [09:39] hi MartijnVdS [09:50] morning [09:50] morning czajkowski [11:31] afternoon [11:33] afternoonings popey [11:34] greetings [11:47] Hi all.. === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [12:31] My SD card reader is no longer mounting in ubuntu precise. Any ideas on what I can try? [13:16] unplug, plug back in [13:16] use different card, see if it works [13:16] Use disk utility ("palimpsest") to see if it's detected at all [13:27] hmmm the battery icon looks odd on update [13:27] most ugly [13:28] how so? [13:31] I made an image of a single partition (/dev/sdb1) using dd. However when I do dd with the of=/dev/sdb it makes the partition but it doesn't update the partition table on the device, is there a way I can do that manually? [13:39] popey: http://twitpic.com/9msmw2/full [13:40] erk, that doesnt look right [13:41] popey: yup a few of us have gotten it on latest updates [13:41] fugly [13:41] is there a bug filed [13:42] bug 956833 [13:42] Launchpad bug 956833 in Ubuntu Translations "Precise Desktop - battery indicator - "Batterie (chargé-e)" should be "Batterie (chargée)"" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/956833 [13:42] not that [13:42] lp seems dead for me [13:42] wfm [13:45] maybe my net connection is ropey today [13:45] ropey popey [13:48] and it's gone back to normal [13:48] just like that..... [13:49] hah [13:49] did you reboot or update or something? [13:51] nope nothing [13:51] most odd [13:53] http://twitpic.com/9mstqm/full [14:13] Good afternoon peeps :) [14:15] yo [14:15] bigcalmster [14:16] What's happening? [14:18] nothing whatsoever === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [14:21] i dunno, i did a bit of cleaning before i got bored of that and had a nap, thats something, kind of [14:54] popey: http://twitpic.com/9mtp01/full [14:54] changed again [15:11] czajkowski: anything in ~/.xsession-errors [15:11] Greetings [15:11] hello [15:11] How are you all? [15:23] tickety boo thanks [15:23] * MartijnVdS has been putting custom firmware on APs [15:23] Some openwrt compatible APs are cheaper than rpi (but don't have hdmi, sadly) [15:24] MartijnVdS: how do those APs compare CPU/RAM wise? [15:25] moreati: lots less RAM too (32MBish), CPU is a bit slower too, and MIPS not ARM [15:25] however, €20 vs €35 :) [15:25] and 4x ethernet + 1x wifi [15:25] + 1x USB [15:25] Wow, didn't know MIPs was still used for anything [15:25] which AP? [15:25] moreati: heavily used in TVs [15:25] popey: http://www.tp-link.com/en/products/details/?model=TL-MR3220 [15:25] that one [15:26] popey: its bigger brother works too: http://www.tp-link.com/en/products/details/?model=TL-MR3420 (300MBit instead of just 150) [15:26] I've got mine working as a client, with an 8GB USB stick plugged in with a "root" (well, /overlay) filesystem [15:32] moreati: Almost all APs currently on the market are some kind of MIPS [15:32] moreati: More and more ARM is coming, but not from the big manufacturers yet, and then only in high-end [15:33] TIL... :) [15:34] ugh, too much sports on the tv today [15:35] mattt: qixl tonight [15:35] MartijnVdS: as long as it doesn't overlap w/ champions league :P [15:35] ಠ_ಠ [15:35] popey: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/995985/ [15:37] czajkowski: watching heineken cup ? [15:40] mattt: mattt 20 mins to kick off :) [15:40] Afternoon [15:41] czajkowski: yay [15:41] * mattt is afk [16:04] * penguin42 returns from a mini-maker fair [16:06] penguin42: a fair for mini-makers or a mini fair for makers? [16:06] MartijnVdS: The latter [16:07] penguin42: how was it [16:07] See anything new & cool? [16:08] MartijnVdS: Hmm so so, I'm not very arty - someone I know had a mechanical turing machine there; 2 laser cutters, 3d printers, vinyl cutters etc out - things like laser cut wooden hinges and the like [16:08] cool === kvarley is now known as Guest15141 === lhavelun1 is now known as lhavelund === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Busy [17:06] anyone not filled out the government open standards consultation yet? http://consultation.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/openstandards/ [17:06] everyone can do so [17:06] the more the merrier === Hornet- is now known as Hornet [18:39] * Flashtek lols @ http://www.fmotl.com/BailiffsDCAs.htm [18:48] anyone finding tab complete on BASH variables in 12.04 being odd? like if I do export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$PWD/lib and hit tab it's \ing the $ rather than expanding it [18:50] penguin42: shopt [18:51] also.. LD_LIBRARY_PATH is usually not what you want [18:51] http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Admin/ld-lib-path.html [18:52] MartijnVdS: Why shopt? I've not changed anything [18:52] penguin42: the default might have changed [18:52] penguin42: or something that used to be unconfigurable is now configurable (again, with a different default) [18:53] Or maybe in /etc/bash_profile / /etc/bashrc [18:56] MartijnVdS: So you're suggesting something may have changed somewhere - does it happen to you? [19:00] I never use it like that [19:44] wifey just called out from the other room that "the bloke in this advert looks just like popey" [19:44] and yes, it is that one [19:45] lol :) [19:45] Was there a beachball in the advert? [19:46] and hawaiian shirts [20:02] Flashtek: you know Freemen On The Land don't exist, right? they have never won in court, once, in history [20:04] bah! [20:04] evening folks [20:04] popey: Now you have to write a book? :P [20:04] popey: good weekend ? [20:05] cool;rtl-sdr working [20:06] MartijnVdS: haha [20:06] AlanBell: just showed wifey that advert [20:06] "it's only because you have the same hair... and build... oh wait, yeah, thats you" [20:06] lol [20:23] Cooiee [20:24] oi oi [20:24] hi-de-hi [20:24] * Laney eyes bluetooth [20:25] * bigcalm_laptop tickles popey [20:30] AlanBell: you in london any time this week [20:31] could do with getting some cds off you [20:31] for flossie [20:31] popey: things are about to go boom [20:31] oh? [20:31] will also ask in the tower but just on the off chance there are none [20:31] czajkowski: I was just wondering how to get them [20:31] to paula [20:31] popey: want to come watch? [20:31] so yeah, I will try and get to London next week [20:31] popey: you coming to the tower this week ? [20:32] AlanBell: lemmie ask on monday to see if I can save you some anyways [20:32] ohh rush hour 3 on in a wee bit [20:32] having such a movie day, first weekend not travelling in weeks === Lcawte|Busy is now known as Lcawte [20:33] czajkowski: which channel? [20:34] MartijnVdS: TCM [20:34] oh no wait lemmie just check that [20:35] MartijnVdS: channel 4 @ 9:45 [20:35] hmm.. I have that in HD :) [20:36] * MartijnVdS looks at the clock [20:36] 22:36 [20:36] hmm [20:37] off by one error [20:37] you're an hour ahead of yourelf [20:37] *yourself [20:37] I'm not on the island :) [20:37] aslways confuses me [20:38] czajkowski: just picture MartijnVdS wearing cloggs and you won't forget again [20:38] one g [20:39] * MartijnVdS spins a windmill using tulips [20:39] AlanBell: scared from https://plus.google.com/photos/fromphone/5741486531401030338 [20:39] czajkowski: ? [20:40] czajkowski: if a link scares you, open it in incognito mode ;) [20:43] I do seem to take a lot of pictures of chickens [20:44] AlanBell: so does jon, as well as cows [20:44] most disturbing [20:45] AlanBell: chickens and kubuntu cds... narrrows eyes... [20:45] can't do that any more :( [20:45] oh, I haven't removed and booted the 11.10 CD yet [20:46] AlanBell: I still have like 50 cds.. :P [20:46] I have 49 [20:46] actually a few less, I stuck kubuntu CDs in with Ubuntu CDs at random [20:46] riddell sent me a bunch when 10.04 was a bit old already [20:47] nobody really asks for kubuntu CDs. If they want it then they have already downloaded it themselves [20:47] does anyone actually use kubuntu in preference to, say, opensuse? [20:48] my chickens do [20:48] I believe there is a healthy kubuntu user community [20:49] ali1234: hi meet jussi [20:49] jussi: is active in the Kubuntu community [20:49] o/ [20:49] jussi: why do you use kubuntu in preference to opensuse? [20:50] actually Im am testing GS currently, but will go back to Kubuntu [20:50] GS ? [20:50] gnome-shell i suppose [20:50] ah [20:50] gnome shell [20:50] ali1234: stability, debian based, Ubuntu community [20:51] oh and awesome people [20:51] technically, do you think kubuntu has the same level of quality as opensuse's kde? [20:52] I havent overly used opensuse, but I would say so, given my tiny amount of experience. [20:52] i only have a couple of hours experience on either [20:53] I found certain things about open suse annoying.. including the lack of jockey [20:54] jockey has broken my systems about as many time as it has helped, that's a problem common to all of ubuntu htough [20:54] I ve not had issues with it except in devel releases [20:56] but many of my issues were much to do with insufficient knowledge than much else [20:56] and debianish habits [20:57] in my short test i thought opensuse had a much nicer default setup for kde [20:58] where as kubuntu seems to be just default KDE grafted onto ubuntu [20:59] ali1234: thats the point kubuntu is attempting to be a kde showcase. [20:59] so we work very closely with upstream [20:59] so it's not intended that anyone actually uses it? [20:59] yes! [21:00] it's just to demonstrate what KDE is like before you polish it? [21:00] is it not intended that anyone uses kde in its vanilla state? why does it need polishing? [21:00] it doesn't need polishing... it's just better if it is [21:00] we wrk with upstream to provide the polish, rather than trying to carry our own patches [21:03] forgot how jackie chan is funny [21:21] this is becoming an interesting champions league final [21:23] czajkowski: not planned to go to the tower [21:27] popey: no worries [21:27] are you in the tower this week czajkowski? [21:27] hmm I've 5 ladies precie tees to give away think friday might be a good way to give them to people [21:27] AlanBell: yarp [21:28] also if anyone wants a launchpad sticker dm me and we can arrange to get them to you [21:28] Myrtti: ping [21:29] Myrtti: would you like a precise womens tshirt as well it'd be nice to give you one and you won't be at flossie [21:34] any recommendations for a relatively inexpensive laptop for running ubuntu? [21:35] ebay [21:35] more interested in brands/models, than where to buy :) [21:35] anything [21:36] lies [21:36] mattt: dells? [21:36] ok, anything made by dell, hp, asus, or lenovo [21:36] I would go along with that actually, something a couple of years old on ebay with a core i3 processor or above, then max out the ram and shove an ssd in it [21:37] avoid dual gpu laptops and you will not have any problems unless you get really unlucky [21:37] you're just as likely to get something genuinely faulty as something that doesn't work with linux [21:37] true [21:38] are there any non-apple laptops that have a similar build quality, and usable trackpad? [21:38] i can't stand PC trackpads :( [21:38] what's a trackpad? [21:38] the little nubbin joystick thing? [21:38] * popey hugs his lenovo with the little nubbin joystick thing and a middle mouse button [21:38] mattt: why not go to a shop and try some , first thing I do is try the trackpad and keyboard [21:39] all non-apple trackpads suck [21:39] IMO [21:39] popey: +++ [21:39] and the apple ones suck in linux [21:39] honestly i can't stand PC laptops [21:39] * daubers stops tiling for the night [21:39] but linux on macbook is clunky :( [21:39] czajkowski: yeah, i just fear they'll all disappoint me :P [21:39] i cant see myself getting anything other than a thinkpad for the forseeable future [21:39] and also you said inexpensive [21:40] ali1234: relatively ... meaning i don't want to spend 1k or above [21:40] lol [21:40] i wouldn't spend more than £500 on a laptop and i'd probably only go that high if it was brand new [21:41] on ebay i wouldn't pay more than £200 and it would have to be a really nice one [21:41] http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile/zareason-zatab-ships-with-cyanogenmod-9-and-root-access-20120518/ [21:41] interesting device [21:41] popey: yeah, i have a feeling it has to be a thinkpad ... which model you running? [21:41] mattt: each to their own, best to try adn see, something always is a better than something else on a laptop that you want but a trade off [21:41] x220 [21:42] two factor auth is muchos annoying when you're incapable of remembering where your phone/keys are at any given instant [21:42] * popey hugs 2fa.py [21:42] how much is that dell ultrabook going for? [21:42] * christel tickles czajkowski [21:42] the devops one [21:42] czajkowski: true, i'm sure there have to be good pc laptops out there [21:43] mattt: i paid £792.62 for mine [21:43] that's not too bad, if it's a good laptop [21:43] i may have to buy used tho, don't want to invest that much in something i may not end up using [21:43] I don't even see the need for 2fa personally [21:44] * Azelphur has secure passwords [21:44] AlanBell: starts at £949 [21:45] anyway, thanks for the suggestions [21:45] btw, my friend bought me diablo 3 [21:45] works at all max graphics in wine :D [21:45] but does it actually work properly? [21:46] yep [21:46] i mean eve runs on max graphics, but transparency effects don't work, so you might as well put it on minimum graphics since it looks exactly the same and runs 3 times faster [21:46] ah [21:46] I can take a screenshot I guess [21:47] and then compare it to a windows screenshot :) [21:47] no point showing it to me [21:47] ali1234: what laptop do you use ? [21:47] ali1234: did you see the video I linked you last night btw [21:48] "last night" 6am in the morning [21:49] can't remember [21:49] ali1234: I found a video of exactly what happens with my G19, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA3rdFelo1U \o/ [2012-05-19 00:33:52] [21:51] well, did you try turning off mobile phone? [21:51] yea [21:52] interestingly I seem to be getting better results (at least so far) by routing the cable away from all the other cables on my desk [21:52] phone doesn't seem to trigger it though [21:52] every single cable from my computer goes through the same trunking [21:52] so i doubt that's it [21:53] could be a manufacturing defect, I also probably have a lot more USB devices than you [21:53] i kind of doubt that [21:53] I have a full 10 port hub and every port on the machine used [21:53] it could be a hub topology issue i suppose [21:54] Buying from the Software centre. If I buy any install on one machine. Do I have to buy again to install on another machine? [21:55] *shrug* [21:55] i dunno, i've never bought anything [21:55] I took the cable a totally different route to all the other cables, will see [21:58] bigcalm_laptop: http://askubuntu.com/questions/40097/what-restrictions-are-there-on-paid-applications May help [21:59] DJones: ta [22:00] http://askubuntu.com/questions/7825/do-i-need-to-re-purchase-software-in-the-ubuntu-software-centre-if-i-reinstall suggests you have the option to reinstall & you're asked for your login details [22:02] bigcalm_laptop: Once you sign in to the account that you used to buy the software, Ubuntu Software Center will display your purchases for reinstalling. [22:05] hmmm rubbish bin looks like it has contents, but is in fact empty [22:13] DJones: like steam then. Good to know, ta :) [22:13] Tempted to buy bit.trip runner [22:17] Sleepy time I fear [22:17] Toodles [22:21] hmm anyone else got a page widening bug on launchpad? [22:21] a what ? [22:22] when the page has a horizontal scrollbar for no reason [22:22] ali1234: nope looking fine here [22:25] firefox? [22:25] chrome [22:25] that will be it then [22:25] i'll report it [22:26] no checked in firefox also [22:26] ali1234: can you take a screen shot [22:26] i've done a video [22:26] not seening anything in the channel either [22:26] might be multimonitor related too [22:26] the whitespace is about the size it would be if the window were stretched across both monitors [22:27] ali1234: right but thats not a lp issue though [22:27] also it only affects bug pages [22:27] i beg to differ [22:27] since it does not affect any other website [22:28] ali1234: well if you file the bug I'll be the one triaging it :) [22:28] so will ask the developers but given not seen any of them mention it before [22:28] well it only just happened [22:29] i mean like i was literally browsing LP and then it started happening [22:31] czajkowski: sure, sorry I was at a board gaming day the whole day [22:32] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZA0-yL-ECE [22:32] Myrtti: if you want email me an address to post it to and will pop in the post next week [22:47] bug only happens when logged in [22:51] ali1234: happens for me too [22:51] confirm bug 1001800 then please :) [22:51] Launchpad bug 1001800 in Launchpad itself "bug pages are wider than the browser window in firefox" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1001800 [22:52] what the test version of launchpad called? something.launchpad.net [22:52] staging [22:53] thanks [22:54] heh, staging still uses my old LP password [22:54] qastaging might be newer [22:55] in terms of code revisions [22:55] i don't think the launchpad database is copied over to the staging instances that often [22:56] it appears to be fixed on qastaging? [22:56] but not staging [22:57] https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/1001181 [22:57] Ubuntu bug 1001181 in Launchpad itself "Bug, branch and merge proposal views have large amounts of horizontal overflow in Firefox" [Critical,Fix committed] [22:57] blarg [22:57] marked as dupe [23:03] hmm should not have looked at work mail and back log [23:04] indeed [23:06] though have now my rt queue up to date [23:06] and tranlsations and licence review for projects [23:06] looking at lp bugs now [23:25] hmm google now gives you a canned bio and discography right on the search page for bands/singers etc [23:25] i like [23:42] gosh, is that the time [23:42] good night Americans and insomniacs o/ [23:44] good night! [23:47] http://signature.microsoft.com/under-the-hood.aspx [23:47] what is that picture at the top supposed to be? [23:48] lmao [23:48] windows: once you remove the trialware it only slightly deforms your laptop [23:58] i walked through the grounds next to Portsmouth University's student union and saw a Microsoft tent pimping Windows 7 and laptops ¬_¬