| philipballew | cyphase, yeah! | 00:50 |
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| philipballew | ive never really been, can anyone describe the maker fair to me? | 00:54 |
| cyphase | there are 3 things going on this weekend that i probably wont be able to make :( | 01:02 |
| cyphase | makerfaire, http://www.northbaywebconference.com/, and the eclipse | 01:02 |
| philipballew | what are you gonna be doing this weekend cyphase ? | 01:07 |
| MarkDude | How can you not make the eclipse? | 01:42 |
| MarkDude | Are you planning on being really drunk? | 01:42 |
| MarkDude | Or maybe closing your eyes? | 01:42 |
| MarkDude | :) | 01:42 |
| * MarkDude kids | 01:42 | |
| MarkDude | because he is a kidder | 01:42 |
| philipballew | I might, if I owned a telescope | 01:46 |
| philipballew | MarkDude, so your still having the eclipse party tomorrow with the open bar and inviting everybody right? | 01:49 |
| philipballew | :) | 01:49 |
| MarkDude | Maybe | 01:50 |
| MarkDude | Danville is not too far for folks | 01:51 |
| MarkDude | We can do a bbq and stuff | 01:51 |
| MarkDude | Just let me know ahead of time | 01:51 |
| MarkDude | The gaurdshack wont let you in.... Unless your name is phoned in | 01:51 |
| * MarkDude ONLY uses fake names for guests | 01:52 | |
| philipballew | LINUX party at MarkDude 's!!!! | 01:52 |
| MarkDude | grantbow, needed to pick sumthin up from my place. The gaurds loled when I told them Dangerous G was coming soon | 01:53 |
| * MarkDude did not make G disclose his middle name of MFing | 01:53 | |
| MarkDude | ^^^ True story | 01:53 |
| philipballew | I need to good name when I do sometime then | 01:54 |
| philipballew | what does one have to do to get a mf middle name MarkDude ? | 01:59 |
| MarkDude | It takes a bit | 01:59 |
| MarkDude | others have to decide it to be proper | 01:59 |
| * MarkDude will PM you a link of notable MFers | 01:59 | |
| philipballew | a MFing committee | 01:59 |
| MarkDude | sorta | 02:00 |
| * philipballew will receive the mf list | 02:00 | |
| MarkDude | #ubuntu-us-ca-offtopic | 02:00 |
| scientes | MarkDude, party really? | 03:06 |
| MarkDude | We can do a bbq | 03:07 |
| * MarkDude is always open for a bbq | 03:07 | |
| scientes | where? can you send me an invite? | 03:07 |
| MarkDude | Well its not planned yet | 03:07 |
| MarkDude | if we can get at least 5 people interested | 03:07 |
| * MarkDude is in Danville | 03:08 | |
| MarkDude | Meeting up in Walnut Creek works easier for some | 03:08 |
| MarkDude | right near bart, and we have heather farms and also civic park | 03:08 |
| scientes | well u got me signed up | 03:09 |
| scientes | thats really on the bart way out there | 03:11 |
| scientes | all pleasanton train | 03:11 |
| MarkDude | Well danivlle is at least an 45 minute busride from WC | 03:12 |
| MarkDude | 15 minute drive | 03:12 |
| scientes | oOo | 03:12 |
| scientes | when you said close i thought like UDS close | 03:12 |
| scientes | to the bart | 03:12 |
| MarkDude | Well WC is better option | 03:12 |
| MarkDude | Civic park is like a 10 minute walk | 03:13 |
| MarkDude | from bart | 03:13 |
| philipballew | MarkDude, whats the day? | 03:14 |
| * philipballew kinda feels bad that people now expect him to have a party | 03:15 | |
| MarkDude | Sunday | 03:15 |
| MarkDude | we could meet Sunday afternoon | 03:15 |
| MarkDude | again this is all last moment- lets go have some fun | 03:15 |
| MarkDude | the next REAL one is most likely June 23rd | 03:15 |
| MarkDude | Sponsored party no less, in honor of Beefy Miracle | 03:16 |
| MarkDude | philipballew, dont feel bad | 03:16 |
| MarkDude | I love to party | 03:16 |
| philipballew | ain't no party like a MarkDude party | 03:16 |
| MarkDude | There ya go | 03:17 |
| MarkDude | Someone was asking for my help at tech stuff | 03:17 |
| * MarkDude said he is good at wearing a penguin suit, bbq, and talking | 03:17 | |
| MarkDude | And sometimes wearing a apenguin suit WHILE talking | 03:17 |
| philipballew | There was a story yesterday about a biker on the tour de California being chased by a guy in a Penguin suit. | 03:18 |
| philipballew | We now know who stole your suit | 03:18 |
| akk | ha, that sounds like a story worth reading | 03:19 |
| akk | Was penguin suit guy also on a bike? | 03:19 |
| philipballew | Maybe. I saw it on ABC 7 yesterday | 03:21 |
| scientes | MarkDude, can you send me an invite on the Beefy Miricle | 03:23 |
| scientes | it got posponed a week, does that change the party date? | 03:23 |
| MarkDude | Wel the Miracle party will be promoted | 03:27 |
| MarkDude | And even tho its for another Distro | 03:27 |
| * MarkDude has set up making sure to have Ubuntu media there for it | 03:27 | |
| MarkDude | as I did last event | 03:27 |
| * MarkDude met with pleia2 in SF to get that media | 03:28 | |
| MarkDude | was with Nixie Pixel for a flashmob | 03:28 |
| philipballew | whats the date of the party MarkDude I need an excuse to wear my fedora sgirt | 03:28 |
| philipballew | *shirt | 03:28 |
| MarkDude | pleia2, walks up hands a bag over to me- says she has servers to watch | 03:28 |
| philipballew | servers can watch themselves | 03:29 |
| MarkDude | Nixie Princess. Princess meet Nixie | 03:29 |
| philipballew | never met her | 03:29 |
| MarkDude | Lyz walks off to leave Nixie saying that looked like some FOSS drug deal | 03:29 |
| MarkDude | Anyway, I digress. | 03:30 |
| philipballew | thats the youtube girl right? | 03:32 |
| philipballew | I know no other way to ask | 03:32 |
| raevol | if anyone wants to take a look at a Unity Dash issue, curious why my fable icons aren't working in unity: http://askubuntu.com/questions/139204/how-can-i-get-the-desktop-name-and-icon-to-show-up-in-unity-for-fable-on-wine | 03:39 |
| MarkDude | Yes. She is the woman that has made a lving off of video games | 03:40 |
| MarkDude | Or she is ok with being called that geeky youtube chick | 03:40 |
| philipballew | Ive never met her, she seems nice though MarkDude | 03:41 |
| MarkDude | https://www.facebook.com/markterranova if anyone wants to add me for the tomfoolery | 03:41 |
| MarkDude | actually she is one of the nicest folks you'll ever meet | 03:41 |
| philipballew | is she a linux user | 03:42 |
| MarkDude | Yes. | 03:43 |
| MarkDude | Linux Mint. Ubuntu. Fedora | 03:43 |
| MarkDude | thats her preference | 03:43 |
| MarkDude | in that order | 03:43 |
| philipballew | Feel free to follow me for the same reasons https://twitter.com/#!/philipballew | 03:43 |
| philipballew | MarkDude, I have had several people attack linux mint based on the creators, which is a off based stance, though it seems like a nice distro | 03:44 |
| * MarkDude thought he was already following you | 03:44 | |
| MarkDude | corrected | 03:45 |
| philipballew | I now follow you as well | 03:45 |
| MarkDude | well, it gets into culty type stuff | 03:45 |
| MarkDude | Its like belief systems | 03:45 |
| philipballew | how so? | 03:46 |
| MarkDude | I mean I like how Fedora has the Freedom stance, and they take it soooooo far | 03:46 |
| philipballew | very far | 03:46 |
| MarkDude | But is comes down to hey- this crap WONT work on this machine | 03:46 |
| MarkDude | So you end up with driver issues | 03:46 |
| MarkDude | I think folks that are upset with Mint, have become more upset after Unity | 03:47 |
| philipballew | it just depends on the kernel shipped for drivers really though | 03:47 |
| * MarkDude had someone complaining in Fedora about drivers and how they - well lack in some cases | 03:48 | |
| * MarkDude said - you are a vegan now | 03:48 | |
| MarkDude | Ubuntu are vegetarians | 03:48 |
| MarkDude | they have more choices | 03:48 |
| philipballew | There upset people switch and find a reason such as the "stealing of money" or the "Antisemitism" | 03:49 |
| MarkDude | Well maybe vegetarians that also eat fish, but I digress | 03:49 |
| akk | Fun analogies. | 03:49 |
| * MarkDude was not up to date on that, I should read up | 03:49 | |
| MarkDude | lol - I think its accurate - to some extent tho :) | 03:49 |
| philipballew | all drivers should be opened | 03:50 |
| philipballew | I dont understand Antisemitism myself so it is hard to relate to being brought up that way | 03:50 |
| MarkDude | FSF exteme folks are like raw food eaters. they cant eat it if its been cooked | 03:50 |
| * MarkDude knows not enough to comment on Mint - its been years since I used it | 03:51 | |
| philipballew | http://thestallmandialogues.com/ | 03:51 |
| philipballew | I dont know enough to make a stance either | 03:51 |
| MarkDude | Hmmmmm, | 03:51 |
| * MarkDude feels another talk coming on | 03:52 | |
| MarkDude | I dont think my veggie> vegan, raw food talk would play outside of West Coast tho | 03:52 |
| MarkDude | :D | 03:52 |
| akk | All I know about Mint is that a lot of people are treating it as "Ubuntu without Unity, with old Gnome 2" | 03:52 |
| akk | and that it seems to have a lot of different versions/offshoots | 03:52 |
| MarkDude | akk correct again | 03:52 |
| MarkDude | Well all the names are of women also | 03:53 |
| akk | and it's green instead of aubergine or orange or brown :) | 03:53 |
| * MarkDude was ok wthh human color of Ubuntu | 03:54 | |
| MarkDude | But doe snot miss the *what can brown do for you ?* jokes | 03:54 |
| philipballew | if you want gnome 2, why not just run debian squeeze? | 03:54 |
| akk | I was glad to see the brown go away. I wanted some color. | 03:54 |
| philipballew | I like purple myself | 03:55 |
| akk | Not that I actually use the default desktop anyway, it was just the principle. | 03:55 |
| akk | The purple is better. | 03:55 |
| philipballew | hipper as well | 03:55 |
| akk | Though needing to learn the word "aubergine" to refer to it probably doesn't help newbies. | 03:55 |
| philipballew | THe brown did set it apart | 03:56 |
| akk | Mint's green always makes me think of SuSE -- they were green first. | 03:57 |
| * MarkDude is most liekly going to be turned down for using Fedora Blue in a logo- by RH legal | 03:58 | |
| MarkDude | Soooooo, he is calling their bluff, and saying he will use aubergine | 03:59 |
| MarkDude | :D | 03:59 |
| philipballew | SuSE is nice. Its like slackware, without the slackware | 04:00 |
| MarkDude | And without the Zonker anymore | 04:00 |
| MarkDude | Suse is dead to me after they got rid of Joe Brockmeir | 04:01 |
| philipballew | the suse guy at scale told me his take on osx | 04:01 |
| MarkDude | sp | 04:01 |
| philipballew | "Unix for Girls" | 04:01 |
| philipballew | was not sure what to say back | 04:01 |
| MarkDude | Sounds like sumthin that could be said | 04:01 |
| MarkDude | by that distro | 04:02 |
| philipballew | for sure. | 04:02 |
| MarkDude | actually more likely I would guess Gentoo :D | 04:02 |
| philipballew | i said, "Yeah! I know tons of women that use that system!" | 04:02 |
| philipballew | I hope he took it the way I intended | 04:02 |
| philipballew | I was still able to get a free shirt from them as well | 04:03 |
| philipballew | I always wonder about gentoo. | 04:04 |
| philipballew | Its a nice enough system though | 04:04 |
| MarkDude | nothing wrong with it technically | 04:05 |
| MarkDude | But its where many trolls go to complete their schooling | 04:05 |
| MarkDude | IMHO | 04:05 |
| akk | A lot of smart techies use gentoo. | 04:05 |
| philipballew | Schooling in what way? | 04:05 |
| akk | But you can waste a lot of time in the rathole of gentoo re-configuration. | 04:06 |
| akk | I waste enough time on ubuntu and debian configuration, I don't really need to find a distro that eats up even more of that. :) | 04:06 |
| philipballew | if you want to go that route, id say arch | 04:06 |
| akk | Agreed, arch has a lot of the benefits of gentoo (and many of the same problems as well) but is a lot less of a time sink. | 04:07 |
| akk | (for normal operations ... of course any distro becomes a time sink when something breaks) | 04:07 |
| philipballew | even in ubuntu. | 04:08 |
| akk | definitely including ubunt | 04:08 |
| akk | u | 04:08 |
| philipballew | I recall back in the brown days spending a solid 15 hours rebuilding my sound just to get it working | 04:08 |
| akk | but I had more, serious, bustages in arch and gentoo that became showstoppers, whereas with ubuntu I can usually find workarounds | 04:09 |
| bkerensa | akk: scripts are your friend for configuration :) | 04:09 |
| * MarkDude spent all sorts of time lurning how to work with debconf to help with video | 04:09 | |
| * bkerensa has a script he runs after every fresh install that installs all the packages he uses and configures everything to the letter :) | 04:09 | |
| MarkDude | Once I felt cool with it, that was removed from Ubuntu | 04:09 |
| akk | bkerensa: Depends on what's broken. Scripts don't help much if udev isn't creating your device, for example. | 04:09 |
| bkerensa | yeah true | 04:10 |
| akk | (a common problem I have with ubuntu) | 04:10 |
| philipballew | debconf is confusing | 04:10 |
| bkerensa | FYI... USB 3.0 is for the win! | 04:10 |
| bkerensa | especially for Ubuntu installs :) | 04:10 |
| * bkerensa needs to get a SSD soon | 04:10 | |
| * akk wants an SSD too | 04:10 | |
| * philipballew still runs pata | 04:12 | |
| akk | It's sad how fast stores stopped selling pata stuff. | 04:12 |
| philipballew | i went to best buy on a papa clearence sale and got a 500 gb | 04:15 |
| * MarkDude got some usb drives for the party, they were about a dollar a gig | 04:19 | |
| philipballew | i got a mysql flash drive at uds, and its bootstraped with mysql documents | 04:20 |
| philipballew | very unhappy about this | 04:20 |
| akk | You can't overwrite them? | 04:20 |
| * akk needs to find a cheap source for 10 4G usb drives, was surprised to find pangolin doesn't really fit in 2g | 04:22 | |
| philipballew | nope. mkfs wont do anything. or gparted | 04:22 |
| akk | philipballew: Weird! Are they read-only or something? What's the error? | 04:22 |
| philipballew | akk, the flash drive boots up as sdb and sdc. sdb is a read only partition showing a bunch of mysql papers that cant be deleted. or mounted as read write. | 04:23 |
| MarkDude | Office Depot may still have some on sale | 04:23 |
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