[00:50] cyphase, yeah! [00:54] ive never really been, can anyone describe the maker fair to me? [01:02] there are 3 things going on this weekend that i probably wont be able to make :( [01:02] makerfaire, http://www.northbaywebconference.com/, and the eclipse [01:07] what are you gonna be doing this weekend cyphase ? [01:42] How can you not make the eclipse? [01:42] Are you planning on being really drunk? [01:42] Or maybe closing your eyes? [01:42] :) [01:42] * MarkDude kids [01:42] because he is a kidder [01:46] I might, if I owned a telescope [01:49] MarkDude, so your still having the eclipse party tomorrow with the open bar and inviting everybody right? [01:49] :) [01:50] Maybe [01:51] Danville is not too far for folks [01:51] We can do a bbq and stuff [01:51] Just let me know ahead of time [01:51] The gaurdshack wont let you in.... Unless your name is phoned in [01:52] * MarkDude ONLY uses fake names for guests [01:52] LINUX party at MarkDude 's!!!! [01:53] grantbow, needed to pick sumthin up from my place. The gaurds loled when I told them Dangerous G was coming soon [01:53] * MarkDude did not make G disclose his middle name of MFing [01:53] ^^^ True story [01:54] I need to good name when I do sometime then [01:59] what does one have to do to get a mf middle name MarkDude ? [01:59] It takes a bit [01:59] others have to decide it to be proper [01:59] * MarkDude will PM you a link of notable MFers [01:59] a MFing committee [02:00] sorta [02:00] * philipballew will receive the mf list [02:00] #ubuntu-us-ca-offtopic [03:06] MarkDude, party really? [03:07] We can do a bbq [03:07] * MarkDude is always open for a bbq [03:07] where? can you send me an invite? [03:07] Well its not planned yet [03:07] if we can get at least 5 people interested [03:08] * MarkDude is in Danville [03:08] Meeting up in Walnut Creek works easier for some [03:08] right near bart, and we have heather farms and also civic park [03:09] well u got me signed up [03:11] thats really on the bart way out there [03:11] all pleasanton train [03:12] Well danivlle is at least an 45 minute busride from WC [03:12] 15 minute drive [03:12] oOo [03:12] when you said close i thought like UDS close [03:12] to the bart [03:12] Well WC is better option [03:13] Civic park is like a 10 minute walk [03:13] from bart [03:14] MarkDude, whats the day? [03:15] * philipballew kinda feels bad that people now expect him to have a party [03:15] Sunday [03:15] we could meet Sunday afternoon [03:15] again this is all last moment- lets go have some fun [03:15] the next REAL one is most likely June 23rd [03:16] Sponsored party no less, in honor of Beefy Miracle [03:16] philipballew, dont feel bad [03:16] I love to party [03:16] ain't no party like a MarkDude party [03:17] There ya go [03:17] Someone was asking for my help at tech stuff [03:17] * MarkDude said he is good at wearing a penguin suit, bbq, and talking [03:17] And sometimes wearing a apenguin suit WHILE talking [03:18] There was a story yesterday about a biker on the tour de California being chased by a guy in a Penguin suit. [03:18] We now know who stole your suit [03:19] ha, that sounds like a story worth reading [03:19] Was penguin suit guy also on a bike? [03:21] Maybe. I saw it on ABC 7 yesterday [03:23] MarkDude, can you send me an invite on the Beefy Miricle [03:23] it got posponed a week, does that change the party date? [03:27] Wel the Miracle party will be promoted [03:27] And even tho its for another Distro [03:27] * MarkDude has set up making sure to have Ubuntu media there for it [03:27] as I did last event [03:28] * MarkDude met with pleia2 in SF to get that media [03:28] was with Nixie Pixel for a flashmob [03:28] whats the date of the party MarkDude I need an excuse to wear my fedora sgirt [03:28] *shirt [03:28] pleia2, walks up hands a bag over to me- says she has servers to watch [03:29] servers can watch themselves [03:29] Nixie Princess. Princess meet Nixie [03:29] never met her [03:29] Lyz walks off to leave Nixie saying that looked like some FOSS drug deal [03:30] Anyway, I digress. [03:32] thats the youtube girl right? [03:32] I know no other way to ask [03:39] if anyone wants to take a look at a Unity Dash issue, curious why my fable icons aren't working in unity: http://askubuntu.com/questions/139204/how-can-i-get-the-desktop-name-and-icon-to-show-up-in-unity-for-fable-on-wine [03:40] Yes. She is the woman that has made a lving off of video games [03:40] Or she is ok with being called that geeky youtube chick [03:41] Ive never met her, she seems nice though MarkDude [03:41] https://www.facebook.com/markterranova if anyone wants to add me for the tomfoolery [03:41] actually she is one of the nicest folks you'll ever meet [03:42] is she a linux user [03:43] Yes. [03:43] Linux Mint. Ubuntu. Fedora [03:43] thats her preference [03:43] in that order [03:43] Feel free to follow me for the same reasons https://twitter.com/#!/philipballew [03:44] MarkDude, I have had several people attack linux mint based on the creators, which is a off based stance, though it seems like a nice distro [03:44] * MarkDude thought he was already following you [03:45] corrected [03:45] I now follow you as well [03:45] well, it gets into culty type stuff [03:45] Its like belief systems [03:46] how so? [03:46] I mean I like how Fedora has the Freedom stance, and they take it soooooo far [03:46] very far [03:46] But is comes down to hey- this crap WONT work on this machine [03:46] So you end up with driver issues [03:47] I think folks that are upset with Mint, have become more upset after Unity [03:47] it just depends on the kernel shipped for drivers really though [03:48] * MarkDude had someone complaining in Fedora about drivers and how they - well lack in some cases [03:48] * MarkDude said - you are a vegan now [03:48] Ubuntu are vegetarians [03:48] they have more choices [03:49] There upset people switch and find a reason such as the "stealing of money" or the "Antisemitism" [03:49] Well maybe vegetarians that also eat fish, but I digress [03:49] Fun analogies. [03:49] * MarkDude was not up to date on that, I should read up [03:49] lol - I think its accurate - to some extent tho :) [03:50] all drivers should be opened [03:50] I dont understand Antisemitism myself so it is hard to relate to being brought up that way [03:50] FSF exteme folks are like raw food eaters. they cant eat it if its been cooked [03:51] * MarkDude knows not enough to comment on Mint - its been years since I used it [03:51] http://thestallmandialogues.com/ [03:51] I dont know enough to make a stance either [03:51] Hmmmmm, [03:52] * MarkDude feels another talk coming on [03:52] I dont think my veggie> vegan, raw food talk would play outside of West Coast tho [03:52] :D [03:52] All I know about Mint is that a lot of people are treating it as "Ubuntu without Unity, with old Gnome 2" [03:52] and that it seems to have a lot of different versions/offshoots [03:52] akk correct again [03:53] Well all the names are of women also [03:53] and it's green instead of aubergine or orange or brown :) [03:54] * MarkDude was ok wthh human color of Ubuntu [03:54] But doe snot miss the *what can brown do for you ?* jokes [03:54] if you want gnome 2, why not just run debian squeeze? [03:54] I was glad to see the brown go away. I wanted some color. [03:55] I like purple myself [03:55] Not that I actually use the default desktop anyway, it was just the principle. [03:55] The purple is better. [03:55] hipper as well [03:55] Though needing to learn the word "aubergine" to refer to it probably doesn't help newbies. [03:56] THe brown did set it apart [03:57] Mint's green always makes me think of SuSE -- they were green first. [03:58] * MarkDude is most liekly going to be turned down for using Fedora Blue in a logo- by RH legal [03:59] Soooooo, he is calling their bluff, and saying he will use aubergine [03:59] :D [04:00] SuSE is nice. Its like slackware, without the slackware [04:00] And without the Zonker anymore [04:01] Suse is dead to me after they got rid of Joe Brockmeir [04:01] the suse guy at scale told me his take on osx [04:01] sp [04:01] "Unix for Girls" [04:01] was not sure what to say back [04:01] Sounds like sumthin that could be said [04:02] by that distro [04:02] for sure. [04:02] actually more likely I would guess Gentoo :D [04:02] i said, "Yeah! I know tons of women that use that system!" [04:02] I hope he took it the way I intended [04:03] I was still able to get a free shirt from them as well [04:04] I always wonder about gentoo. [04:04] Its a nice enough system though [04:05] nothing wrong with it technically [04:05] But its where many trolls go to complete their schooling [04:05] IMHO [04:05] A lot of smart techies use gentoo. [04:05] Schooling in what way? [04:06] But you can waste a lot of time in the rathole of gentoo re-configuration. [04:06] I waste enough time on ubuntu and debian configuration, I don't really need to find a distro that eats up even more of that. :) [04:06] if you want to go that route, id say arch [04:07] Agreed, arch has a lot of the benefits of gentoo (and many of the same problems as well) but is a lot less of a time sink. [04:07] (for normal operations ... of course any distro becomes a time sink when something breaks) [04:08] even in ubuntu. [04:08] definitely including ubunt [04:08] u [04:08] I recall back in the brown days spending a solid 15 hours rebuilding my sound just to get it working [04:09] but I had more, serious, bustages in arch and gentoo that became showstoppers, whereas with ubuntu I can usually find workarounds [04:09] akk: scripts are your friend for configuration :) [04:09] * MarkDude spent all sorts of time lurning how to work with debconf to help with video [04:09] * bkerensa has a script he runs after every fresh install that installs all the packages he uses and configures everything to the letter :) [04:09] Once I felt cool with it, that was removed from Ubuntu [04:09] bkerensa: Depends on what's broken. Scripts don't help much if udev isn't creating your device, for example. [04:10] yeah true [04:10] (a common problem I have with ubuntu) [04:10] debconf is confusing [04:10] FYI... USB 3.0 is for the win! [04:10] especially for Ubuntu installs :) [04:10] * bkerensa needs to get a SSD soon [04:10] * akk wants an SSD too [04:12] * philipballew still runs pata [04:12] It's sad how fast stores stopped selling pata stuff. [04:15] i went to best buy on a papa clearence sale and got a 500 gb [04:19] * MarkDude got some usb drives for the party, they were about a dollar a gig [04:20] i got a mysql flash drive at uds, and its bootstraped with mysql documents [04:20] very unhappy about this [04:20] You can't overwrite them? [04:22] * akk needs to find a cheap source for 10 4G usb drives, was surprised to find pangolin doesn't really fit in 2g [04:22] nope. mkfs wont do anything. or gparted [04:22] philipballew: Weird! Are they read-only or something? What's the error? [04:23] akk, the flash drive boots up as sdb and sdc. sdb is a read only partition showing a bunch of mysql papers that cant be deleted. or mounted as read write. [04:23] Office Depot may still have some on sale