[00:00] <Drecondius> Ugh, I have the feeling this is going to be a veeeery long night.
[00:00] <stalkerg> hydrox24: yep, I hate compiz-config-settings too...
[00:00] <stalkerg> hydrox24: and gconf
[00:01] <hydrox24> stalkerg: I would look into the "workspaces" setting in compix-config-settings-manager
[00:01] <hydrox24> *compiz
[00:02] <krababbel> MatCat: but you could go in in rescue mode, move all files in your home somewhere, copy the user skel files, don't know by heart where they are, and then copy back only the preferences of the applications you need.
[00:02] <Picto> #lubuntu
[00:03] <Picto> hello
[00:03] <Drecondius> stalkerg: ok so now it hangs on the drive detection, should i chance updating my ssd firmware?
[00:04] <Picto> look my fps
[00:04] <Picto> glxgears
[00:04] <Picto> Running synchronized to the vertical refresh.  The framerate should be
[00:04] <Picto> approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
[00:04] <Picto> 410 frames in 5.0 seconds = 81.903 FPS
[00:04] <Picto> 418 frames in 5.0 seconds = 83.409 FPS
[00:04] <FloodBot1> Picto: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:04] <MatCat> krababbel: I just tested on a second test account, and it didn't work there either
[00:05] <Picto> pls look this
[00:05] <Picto> http://paste.ubuntu.com/995142/
[00:05] <Picto> is normal?
[00:05] <Picto> 80 fps
[00:05] <FloodBot1> Picto: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:05] <wylde> !enter | Picto
[00:05] <lauratika> what Voip would you recomend beisdes skype?
[00:05] <cellardoor> I have managed to get a grub terminal, but now how do i boot into ubuntu?
[00:05] <smithw> I still can't get my wireless card to work. ndiswrapper seems to accept the drive (it says the driver is installed and the device is present), modprobe loads ndiswrapper normally, but no wlan0 shows up. is there something I'm missing?
[00:05] <Picto> sorry, http://paste.ubuntu.com/995142/ is this normal?, i have ati radeon 9200 SE
[00:05] <smithw> *driveR
[00:05] <cellardoor> This is immediately after switch on. I get a GRUB prompt.
[00:06] <stalkerg> hydrox24: i can not find it
[00:06] <stalkerg> Drecondius: hmmm
[00:07] <Picto> starlkerg can u help me?
[00:07] <stalkerg> Drecondius: i have only one problem with ssd
[00:07] <IdleOne> Picto: what is the problem?
[00:07] <Picto> look this, http://paste.ubuntu.com/995142/
[00:07] <stalkerg> Drecondius: i connect to on board RAID SATA and SSD strange work (or not work)
[00:07] <MatCat> krababbel:  The funny thing is it did work for a few days, I had assigned a custom background image, and I remember it went back to the default image on a restart, so I reassigned the image, and again it reset on a restart at some point, and I tried the other day to change it back but now it won't let me
[00:07] <Nogal> hey, i'm trying to get an xp box up dual booted with 12.04, I can't find gParted on it -- any ideas?
[00:07] <Picto> 80 fps, with radeon 9200 SE
[00:07] <IdleOne> Picto: I see it, what is the problem?
[00:08] <stalkerg> Picto: yep, but show me glxinfo
[00:08] <Picto> ok, wait
[00:09] <Drecondius> stalkerg: so you haven't updated your ssd's firmware since purchase?
[00:09] <MatCat> krababbel: Though I did find a method to change the background on the login screen, but that isn't my desktop background :P
[00:09] <stalkerg> 9200 it is... r300g? hm... Mark now work on r600
[00:09] <Picto> http://paste.ubuntu.com/995148/
[00:09] <Nogal> Does anyone have a minute to help a newbie?
[00:09] <stalkerg> Drecondius: do not update
[00:09] <caesar_> e2b04836: would upgrading to 12.04 fix this or would i be stuck with the same issue?
[00:09] <caesar_> i cant find the driver
[00:10] <Drecondius> stalkerg: Are you set up as your ssd being in raid mode?
[00:10] <Picto> this is the glxinfo http://paste.ubuntu.com/995148/
[00:10] <stalkerg> Picto: normal... sorry it is R200 driver very very old. try buy new card.
[00:11] <Picto> i cant have mor fps?
[00:11] <stalkerg> Drecondius: no, only single mode.
[00:11] <stalkerg> Picto: cant... but not need more
[00:11] <Drecondius> hmmmmmm, then maybe it's something simple i'm overlooking
[00:11] <Drecondius> be back shortly
[00:11] <Picto> i try to play starcraft I, but is work low (im spanish, sorry my english), with window XP i play starcraft normaly (just is a example)
[00:11] <stalkerg> Picto: glxgears it is not benchmark
[00:12] <meisth0th> hello
[00:12] <pfifo> Is there a way to get blender 2.49b on ubuntu 12.04?
[00:13] <Picto> stalkerg: and look this http://www.ubuntu-es.org/node/104136 they have ati 9200/9250 and have 800 gps or more
[00:13] <stalkerg> Picto: Hola! For starcraft1 not need 3d graphics.
[00:13] <Nogal> pfifo: blender is available on the software center
[00:13] <Picto> but is work slow D:
[00:13] <meisth0th> i am working on an application, which has an indicator. but i am planning to implement tray icon, too, for users on another distributions to be able to use it. is there anyway i can test my tray icon on ubuntu 12.04?
[00:14] <Nogal> it's currently version 2.62-1, though you should be able to find an old .deb online if you need the older version.
[00:14] <pfifo> Nogal, blender 2.62 is available in the software center on 12.04, but that version dosent support the features I need.
[00:14] <JuggaloXX> hello, can some one give me a hand with 12.04 and usb 3.0. I can see the hub on lsusb but when i plug in a usb 3.0 hard disk it does not detect and mount.
[00:14] <escott> JuggaloXX, does not detect or does not mount?
[00:15] <JuggaloXX> both
[00:15] <stalkerg> >_< I love gentoo more and more...
[00:15] <JuggaloXX> escott, the same drive works on my 2.0 ports. i see a few people have reported this issue recently but no solutions.
[00:15] <Picto> stalkerg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/995155/ this is lshw
[00:15] <pfifo> Nogal, I was looking for an older deb, but upon trying to install it, There were dependency problems due to several libs being upgraded.
[00:16] <Picto> i dont know why starcraft (and other games and programs) work slow
[00:16] <Nogal> ah, that's a bit beyond me. I was looking into finding the old .deb
[00:16] <Picto> with windows xp dont work slow
[00:16] <stalkerg> Picto: you use opensource driver. And for old hardware driver is realy bad (r300g and r600g good)
[00:17] <stalkerg> Picto: aaaand not have "close" driver for your kernel and hardware.
[00:17] <Picto> so, i cant play normally with ubuntu ¿?¿? (sorry i dont understand)
[00:18] <Nogal> Anyone have a min to help me with a dual boot issue? I have an xp box which I'm trying to get 12.04 on but it seems that gParted was not included on this liveCD, anyone know how I can get this?
[00:18] <stalkerg> Picto: need write driver by hand :) Need asm, C, and DRM/DRI/Mesa API
[00:18] <Picto> "i have" created a driver?
[00:18] <stalkerg> Picto: on this hardware - no
[00:18] <stalkerg> Picto: my telephone more powerfull
[00:19] <Picto> :(
[00:19] <stalkerg> Picto: sorry
[00:19] <stalkerg> good bay!  всем пока.
[00:20] <Picto> dnd, thx for anwser my questions
[00:22] <Nogal> anyone have a minute to help me with gParted?
[00:22] <shape> Hello, If I install a different Video Card on my system and change some RAM (i.e. change RAM sticks), will I have to reinstall Ubuntu or will there be no problems at all?
[00:22] <Nogal> shape: there shouldn't be any issues with that
[00:24] <indian> hello
[00:24] <shape> Nogal: when linux installs on the computer, does it load stuff into the kernel regarding the components that you have, or is it modular?
[00:24] <indian> I am getting this error when trying to load vmware
[00:24] <indian>  Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "murrine",
[00:24] <indian> I cannot find any package named murrine
[00:26] <genii-around> !info gtk2-engines-murrine
[00:26] <foobArrr> is the indicator applet an ubuntu-only thing?
[00:27] <Nogal> shape: i'm not positive with ubuntu, linux can be compiled both ways. I have not tried to change out my ubuntu machine, but I know other distros can be entirely modular.
[00:27] <shape> Nogal, so there is a change I might have to do a fresh install, correct?
[00:27] <court> command to download flash player?
[00:28] <lauratika> im looking to buy a netbook what you rekon for ubuntu?
[00:28] <Nogal> for RAM and a videocard i highly doubt it, but I never rule out the unknown
[00:28] <a_pen9uin> how could i update a computer running 11.04 to 12.04 the computer in question has no internet connection i just use it for games could i stick a 12.04 disk in and update like that?
[00:29] <shape> Nogal, right. I should be more worried if I had to change the CPU, correct?
[00:29] <JaceAlvejetti> a_p3rson, should offer to upgrade when it sees the CD
[00:29] <indian> Ok I got the gtk2-engines-murrine is already the newest version.
[00:29] <fully_human> What is dcop? I somehow need it to run mythtv-setup.
[00:29] <indian> but I am still getting the error
[00:29] <Nogal> yes, if you were changing the cpu or the motherboard i might think that you may run into an issue, but with your changes i really don't think you'll have any problem
[00:30] <a_pen9uin> @JaceAlvejetti thanks for the help will do
[00:30] <Nogal> does anyone know how to get a 12.04 liveCD with gParted?
[00:30] <lauratika> any advice
[00:30] <shape> lauratika, Acer Aspire one seems to be the one that "just works". Ive researched this myself a while back and that;s what I could find.
[00:30] <JaceAlvejetti> a_p3rson, not a problem
[00:31] <Nogal> lauratika: system76 makes a line of ubuntu preloaded computers... i'll find the lik
[00:31] <Nogal> link*
[00:31] <shape> Nogal, what do you mean? You want an Ubuntu with gparted on the live cd?
[00:31] <lauratika> thanx
[00:32] <Nogal> lauratika: it's just www.system76.com
[00:32] <Nogal> shape: yeah, i'm trying to get an old xp box repartitioned with linux
[00:32] <L3top> How do I assign my default output to HDMI in gnome3 on 1204? Where/what is the default mixer to change settings?
[00:32] <lauratika> how can i lighten up in yellow the name of users while replying in the chat?
[00:32] <foobArrr> shape: I think the default is not a targeted kernel, you should be ok. you can check /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf. if there is a "MODULES=most" in it, there kernel should not be hardware-specific. (please correct me, if I'm wrong)
[00:33] <L3top> Audio output that is
[00:33] <Drecondius> Perhaps it should be noted that I'm trying to get 12.04 x64 running
[00:33] <L3top> I know in kubuntu it is kmixer
[00:33] <shape> Nogal, I just did the same thing, yet I just burned Gparted Live CD on a normal CD and did the partitioning and installed Ubuntu with a differend CD. Wouldn't that work?
[00:34] <L3top> what irc client are you using lauratika
[00:34] <shape> foobArrr, Thanks! I can't correct you because that's way beyond my knowledge
[00:34] <Drecondius> Would that make a difference as to why it will not boot?
[00:34] <lauratika> opera's client
[00:34] <foobArrr> shape: that was addressed to the whole channel :)
[00:34] <Nogal> shape: sometimes i look for the hard way... thank you for pointing out my idiocy lmao
[00:35] <L3top> lauratika: I am not familiar with operas, but it should be in something like "settings/chat view"
[00:36] <foobArrr> shape: if there is MODULES=dep instead of MODULES=most, you can change it to most and then run update-initramfs -u
[00:36] <foobArrr> but no guarantees
[00:36] <shape> Nogal, but what is it that you're trying to do? Shink partitions?
[00:37] <Nogal> shape: yeah, just trying to shrink the XP partition down to about half her size and load 12.04 on the newly acquired free space.
[00:37] <Nogal> so the gp-liveCD should do the trick, followed by the ubuntu livecd for the actual install?
[00:37] <shape> foobArrr, I will have to try that tomorrow since I don't have the computer right now. and of course Thanks for the info!
[00:38] <gumby_52> hello.  I'm wondering if someone could help me with setting up running Ubuntu on my TV.  It works fine on my small monitor but when I put it on my tv the display seems wrong.  I looked at the xorg.0.log and see that it does not like the frequency.
[00:38] <sickly> hey can someone help me with removing unity? i tried sudo apt-get remove unity unity-2d, but its still there. I want it to be the old school way lol
[00:38] <gumby_52> looking for some help if someone is able to assist me... it would be apprecieated
[00:38] <shape> Nogal, yeah, go to do the Gparted site, download the latest Gparted LiveCD an burn it. Then boot from it, do the shrinking and then reboot with the Ubuntu Live CD.
[00:38] <L3top> 1204, I can speaker-test -Dplug:hdmi and get audio over hdmi, however I do not believe the mixer is outputting on HDMI natively. What mixer would I set to default to this? I created an /etc/asound.conf, but on reload I still have no audio out unless I do that test.
[00:39] <L3top> gumby_52: do you have any adapters or anything in between the card and the tv? How is it connected?
[00:39] <bazhang> !notunity | sickly
[00:39] <Nogal> sickly: i'm pretty sure they just released a gnome classic desktop manager for 12.04
[00:39] <shape> Nogal, There might be some Ubuntu distros that come with Gparted but the Gparted Live CD loads very fast, rather than waiting for the whole system to load from the Live CD.
[00:39] <gumby_52> I have the hdmi plugged into the tv from the nvidia card
[00:39] <gumby_52> just going into it's own input
[00:40] <shape> Nogal, if you are really cheap, and don't want to waste a CD, you could boot from the Ubuntu 12.04 live CD and then with an internet connection download Gparted and run it. It will all be done in RAM.
[00:40] <L3top> gumby_52: have you installed the proprietary drivers? and if so what options do you have in nvidia-settings?
[00:40] <gumby_52> I have installed the drivers
[00:40] <Nogal> shape: yeah i remember having an old disk that came with it, cheapness is not an issue lol
[00:40] <gumby_52> I ran nvidia settings
[00:40] <_ProtekNickz> L3top: try  alsamixer in terminal
[00:40] <_ProtekNickz> for audio
[00:41] <gumby_52> can I PM you the error and the settings
[00:41] <gumby_52> I don't want to spam the channel
[00:41] <L3top> _ProtekNickz: alsamixer shows my digital outs, and IECx are unmuted, which I suppose is why the test works.
[00:41] <L3top> sure gumby_52
[00:42] <Nogal> Shape, thank you again for your assistance. I'll probably keep the channel open for a while to see if I can help anyone.
[00:42] <foobArrr> shape, you're welcome
[00:43] <Nogal> I've got to say, I love how the community works.
[00:43] <_ProtekNickz> L3top: you tried checking Default Audio setting in System Setting? just asking 0_o
[00:43] <L3top> This is what I was asking about. I am used to Kubuntu sorry _ProtekNickz.
[00:44] <L3top> thank you _ProtekNickz
[00:44] <_ProtekNickz> L3top: goto 'System Settings' then 'Sound' and see which is Default then change
[00:44] <martin___> l
[00:45] <_ProtekNickz> L3top: Click Unity Button and Search System Settings
[00:45] <L3top> sorry _ProtekNickz Gnome3
[00:45] <_ProtekNickz> lol
[00:45] <_ProtekNickz> k
[00:46] <shape> Nogal, btw, you checked with the Live CD of Ubuntu and gparted wasn't in the applications?
[00:46] <_ProtekNickz> L3top: just checking now 4 you
[00:48] <L3top> _ProtekNickz: system settings => sound => output and hardware only have "Built-in analog audio" as an option... I suppose I should try and change this in alsamixer f6?
[00:48] <meisth0th> is there anybody who has experience with ppa, owning some packages?
[00:49] <shape> anyone have a link with the precise package list? I cannot find anything on google
[00:49] <_ProtekNickz> L3top: yes see if it's listen their
[00:49] <_ProtekNickz> listed*
[00:50] <lorecaster> as you wish, L3top
[00:50] <L3top> lorecaster: _ProtekNickz is helping you now.
[00:50] <L3top> ty _ProtekNickz
[00:50] <lorecaster> bless you both
[00:50] <_ProtekNickz> yw
[00:50] <_ProtekNickz> np
[00:51] <L3top> so can you select your digital in alsamixer under f6 lorecaster
[00:52] <L3top> and see if your options change in system settings lorecaster
[00:52] <lorecaster> I tried that, and spit out what I saw. no digital there at all
[00:53] <lorecaster> the only option in ALSA with F6 is 0-HDA NVIDIA
[00:53] <lorecaster> no digital
[00:55] <OerHeks> lorecaster, maybe it is a bios setting ?
[00:55] <isoman2kx> hey everyone...
[00:55] <isoman2kx> I get this message whne I try to do a DH1080 key exchange
[00:55] <isoman2kx> Unable to perform key exchange with CyBeR. Diffie-Hellman key exchange is not supported by your installation of the Qt Cryptographic Architecture (QCA). You likely need to install an additional provider plugin. Diffie-Hellman key exchange support is usually provided by the qca-ossl plugin.
[00:55] <isoman2kx> how do I get this qca-ossl
[00:55] <isoman2kx> :(
[00:55] <FloodBot1> isoman2kx: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:55] <isoman2kx> shh
[00:55] <lorecaster> hmm... nothing to my memory in bios would provide me with that impression... next reboot i'll check it out. thanks  oerheks!
[00:56] <L3top> OerHeks: can test audio from cli and it works
[00:56] <OerHeks> isoman2kx, i think you need libqca2-plugin-ossl
[00:56] <L3top> OerHeks: speaker-test -Dplug:hdmi sends hdmi audio out
[00:56] <isoman2kx> where do I go in Ubuntu to get this? this is my first time using Ubuntu in a loong time
[00:57] <OerHeks> L3top, ah oke, tried resetting the monitor with its own little buttons?
[00:57] <Nogal> isoman2kx: you should be able to get that from the terminal: subo apt-get install libqca2-plugin-ossl
[00:57] <Nogal> sudo***
[00:57] <isoman2kx> thanks :)
[00:57] <lorecaster> a hard monitor reset? i can do that too :D
[00:58] <L3top> it is lorecaster with the issue, I got it to test lol... thats as far as I could get... maybe an old fashioned reboot is in order
[01:02] <majuscule> How can I use libnotify from an upstart service
[01:02] <majuscule> ?
[01:02] <aslkjdlkasdjlakj> a yo - fuck soak guys
[01:03] <aslkjdlkasdjlakj> yo
[01:03] <aslkjdlkasdjlakj> fuck
[01:03] <aslkjdlkasdjlakj> fuck
[01:03] <aslkjdlkasdjlakj> fuck
[01:03] <FloodBot1> aslkjdlkasdjlakj: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:03]  * foobArrr loves trolls, but a little more creativity would be nice
[01:04] <foobArrr> off-topic, sorry
[01:04] <shape> Nogal, what Ubuntu Live CD do you have?
[01:05] <iceroot> why is "sudo cd ~" giving "unkown command cd"? if i am correct "cd" is coming directly from bash and is not an external program which needs to be in PATH
[01:06] <jacekowski> iceroot: sudo is trying to execute binary called cd
[01:07] <jacekowski> iceroot: and as it's internal shell command it can't do that
[01:07] <Nogal> shape: i'm working off the iso from ubuntu.com
[01:07] <caesar_> can someone help me find and install a graphics driver?
[01:07] <Nogal> i just loaded into gparted
[01:07] <iceroot> jacekowski: ah ok and echo is working because its an builtin AND have a binary in PATH
[01:08] <iceroot> jacekowski: so sudo echo is not using the bash echo
[01:08] <foobArrr> "sudo cd" doesn't make much sense at all, does it?
[01:08] <Nogal> shape: i just ran into an issue where maybe you can help me; the ntfs system i need to shrink doesn't seem to allow me to, it has a little "!" icon next to it.
[01:08] <iceroot> foobArrr: i inital goal was to see if sudo is expaning ~ to /root and so i tried cd
[01:08] <jacekowski> it kinda does if you want to change cwd
[01:09] <jacekowski> iceroot: it's shell expanding it
[01:09] <jacekowski> iceroot: not sudo
[01:09] <iceroot> jacekowski: but the question is when it is expanding, before sudo or after
[01:09] <iceroot> jacekowski: sudo echo ~ is giving the userhome and not root
[01:09] <jacekowski> it's not expanding it in this case
[01:11] <iceroot> so if sudo knows about cd then sudo cd ~ would put me in my homedir and not /root/
[01:11] <iceroot> because bash is expanding ~ before sudo is executed
[01:11] <jacekowski> yes
[01:11] <iceroot> good to know
[01:11] <jacekowski> same thing with !
[01:11] <ZaNeIuM> what does this install? apt-get install me
[01:12] <iceroot> ZaNeIuM: a package called "me"
[01:12] <L3top> lorecaster: did you reboot?
[01:12] <ZaNeIuM> what is the me package somthing standard?
[01:12] <lorecaster> not yet.
[01:12] <iceroot> ZaNeIuM: there is no package "me" in the ubuntu-repos
[01:12] <shape> Nogal, I wanted to say that I checked the Ubuntu packages website and booted from the 12.04 Live CD and Gparted is there. I just took it for granted when you told me the iso didnt have Gparted. Gparted comes with Precise 12.04. So you don't need to burn the Gparted Live CD and just boot from the Ubuntu Live CD and run Gparted from there.
[01:13] <sickly> Nogal, couldnt find anything on that any info on where i can find it?
[01:14] <lorecaster> got it working. was a "pavucontrol" issue
[01:14] <shape> Nogal, and regarding the exclamation mark, click on the drive info and see what the warning is about.
[01:14] <shape> Nogal, right click - Information
[01:15] <Nogal> ok, i'm not sure what to do with this...
[01:15] <Nogal> it has a bit of an output telling me that the cluser acounting fialied, extra cluser in bitmap
[01:16] <jan_a> question: for 12.04, how do you, "Automatically remember running applications when logging out"?
[01:16] <lorecaster> *hugs* L3top
[01:17] <lorecaster> problem solved. it may have taken 3 hours, but the sound is amazing. much obliged!
[01:17] <shape> Nogal, the partition you are trying to resize, is it a boot partition where xp is on?
[01:18] <Nogal> I believe so; it's sda2 NTFS partition
[01:18] <L3top> yay lorecaster!
[01:18] <L3top> Have a good night
[01:18] <shape> Nogal, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1700891
[01:18] <shape> Nogal, is this similar to what you are having?
[01:19] <Nogal> yes; that's the message.
[01:19] <lorecaster> CHEERS!
[01:20] <ejv> how do I remove old kernels/sources from /boot using the command line only? thx
[01:20] <shape> Nogal, From reading a bunch of threads with people having the same problem it seems installing ntfsprogs does the trick
[01:20] <ejv> my /boot is full.
[01:20] <Nogal> it seems that ntfs-3g has replaced ntfsprogs. ntfs-3g is already installed
[01:21] <c0deMaster> how to use OpenDNS in Ubuntu 12.04
[01:22] <wilee-nilee> Nogal, what windows release is this?
[01:22] <jiffe1> so I'm trying to iscsi boot ubuntu 12.04, my bios supports iscsi so I exported a disk I have ubuntu installed on via iscsi and I see it bot, it gets past grub, I see it load ethernet and usb, but then it says 'Gave up waiting for root device', any idea how I might resolve this?
[01:22] <Nogal> XP: Home Edition
[01:22] <wilee-nilee> c0deMaster, I add there addresses in my router myself
[01:22] <wilee-nilee> their*
[01:23] <wilee-nilee> Nogal, make sure you use a partitioner to move everything to the front of that partition first gparted does not do this and defragg.
[01:24] <shape> Nogal, In Windows did you run chkdsk, then defrag ?
[01:24] <wilee-nilee> Nogal, and do a chkdsk /r as well really to be safe.
[01:24] <shape> rofl, was saying the same thing
[01:24] <Nogal> kk, its been a while for windows, how do i get to chkdisk, run cmd
[01:24] <teskew> someone may be able to help me. i've remapped my keyboard "Menu" key to be the Super_R key, since i don't have a Super_R.  When i press the Menu key now, it doesn't have the same behavior as pressing the Super_L key. the Super_L key works as it's supposed to. (long press brings up key commands window, short press brings up dash)   the Menu button, when short pressed brings up the key commands window and it acts pretty flakey. long press does nothing but
[01:24] <teskew> flash the key commands window and dash.
[01:24] <wilee-nilee> shape, good for you
[01:24] <krababbel> Nogal: there is a trial version of perfect disc, which can move everything
[01:25] <teskew> this is Precise
[01:25] <krababbel> Nogal: chkdsk
[01:26] <Nogal> krababbel: start>run>chkdsk?
[01:26] <jan_a> ejv: Get the list of kernels installed, dpkg -l 'linux-image*' | grep "^ii"; check which kernel you're running (uname -r); and remove the _other_ kernels, apt-get remove linux-image-<unused_revisions>
[01:26] <shape> Nogal, Or if you don't want command line, in Windows, you right click on the drive - Properties -Tools and you have "error-checking" (check disk) there
[01:26] <krababbel> Nogal: start/run/cmd elevated, hold ctrl,shift
[01:26] <shape> Nogal, and the second option is Defragmentation. Also, "Error- Checking" will orccur after you restart, if you have the system on it.
[01:26] <krababbel> Nogal: in xp just click
[01:27] <teskew> do i need to first unset the Super_R key in xmodmap?
[01:27] <Nogal> "chkdsk cannot run becasuse the volume is in use by another process."
[01:27] <shape> Nogal: do what I said
[01:28] <Nogal> sorry was turned away, i think i figured that part out
[01:28] <shape> Nogal, it will prompt you to restart. And then it should run chkdsk before loading windows. You cannot check the disk if the system is loaded from it.
[01:28] <Nogal> asked me to schedule chkdsk upon next restart
[01:28] <shape> Nogal, yes, that's it.
[01:29] <Nogal> sweet ok; running chkdsk /r (after the reboot)
[01:29] <TheAlliedFleet> Is there anyway to run photoshop CS6 or CS5 on wine, When I try my installation fails
[01:29] <shape> Nogal, And after that, do a Defragmentation, and then run chkdsk again
[01:30] <Nogal> just plain chkdsk or should I append /r?
[01:31] <shape> Nogal, run chkdsk /r the first time, then defragment, then just normal chkdsk and see how Gparted sees the partition after. If not run chkdsk /r and try gparted again.
[01:33] <Nogal> shape: tyvm. it looks like this is going to take a while; I'm going to step outside for a deathstick real quick.
[01:33] <shape> Nogal, chkdsk /r finds bad sectors
[01:33] <shape> Nogal so it will take a long time, that's why the second time I said not to run the /r
[01:34] <shape> Nogal, because the first run of "chkdsk /r" should find the bad sectors
[01:34] <shape> Nogal, I have to go. Good luck!
[01:35] <nmatrix9> Hey guys when I was trying to install my new ubuntu setup accidentally wiped out the partition on a external 1 terabyte drive.  Now I've done something similar before a windows machine years ago, and I was able to still retrieve the data from a formatted partition with a propietary windows tool.  Is there something similar on linux or ubuntu?
[01:41] <smithw> Please, can anyone help me with my wifi card? I've tried everything I know, I don't know what else to do...
[01:41] <Sheldon420> smithw, What's the problem?
[01:42] <docmur> My scroll wheel on my mouse is inverted inside firefox, however it's not inverted in every other application, has anyone seen then, I'm running 12.04
[01:43] <smithw> Sheldon420, the system can't recognize it. b43 won't see it, and ndiswrapper with the windows driver reports no error, but also doesn't bring any wlan0
[01:43] <smithw> I'm probably forgetting something stupid, but I don't know what
[01:43] <L3top> nmatrix9: what was the format prior to formatting
[01:44] <docmur> It's also inverted in Chromium
[01:44] <nmatrix9> L3top, it was fat32
[01:44] <escott> !undelete | nmatrix9
[01:44] <L3top> !b43
[01:45] <L3top> nmatrix9: if it was a windows based drive, I would use windows recovery tools
[01:46] <escott> nmatrix9, testdisk will certainly be able to find the partition table again, but its a bit confusing to work with
[01:46] <nmatrix9> L3top, good point it's a external drive
[01:46] <nmatrix9> L3top, don't have windows machine readily available at the moment
[01:46] <Sheldon420> smithw, What is the output of sudo lshw -C network
[01:46] <L3top> nmatrix9: I would strongy recommend using windows based recovery tools. active partition recovery works well.
[01:47] <bluesnow> Is there any way to move the launcher to the bottom of the screen in ubuntu 12.04?
[01:47] <nmatrix9> L3top, active partition recovery never heard of that term before
[01:47] <bluesnow> I had it set in 11.04 but compizconfig seems to have stopped working
[01:47] <L3top> nmatrix9: I would unplug that thing and wait till I did, esp if you cared about it
[01:47] <L3top> it is a specific tool nmatrix9
[01:48] <smithw> Sheldon420, http://pastebin.com/qFcdpCvJ
[01:49] <nmatrix9> L3top, I'm gonna take heed of you advice
[01:49] <Sheldon420> smithw, OK.  Can you try following the instructions from this link: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/internet/C/troubleshooting-wireless.html#troubleshooting-wireless-ndiswrapper
[01:49] <nmatrix9> L3top, thanks
[01:52] <smithw> Sheldon420, I tried installing the windows driver with ndiswrapper from the repositiries (using DKMS), and then built the 1.58rc1 from source. I have not used ndisgtk, I did everything on the cli. I'll try reinstalling the packages and using ndisgtk, then.
[01:56] <_ProtekNickz> Some one explaine this please: if i was to visit some one Friend, Family ect.. and they had a Windows PC and i asked to use it they'd be gladly to accept this request "In general", but if i went to the ie, friends family house they would be going loco if i asked or even breathed on their machine lolz, kinda weird eh!
[01:57] <_ProtekNickz> if they had linux that is
[01:57] <_ProtekNickz> ^
[01:57] <Nogal> _ProtekNickz i'm usually the one to say "check out my sweet OS -- go play with my computer."
[01:57] <smithw> Sheldon420, it appears to install the driver fine, it says the driver is installed and the hardware is present, but there is no wlan0 on iwconfig, and I can't create a wireless connection on "Network Connections" (when I click "Add", all the fields are greyed out)
[01:58] <Goonhost> d75-152-110-141.abhsia.telus.net) has joined #ubuntu                                                                                                                              . aaas
[01:58] <Goonhost> 11:51:42              <-- | teskew (~teskew2@206.251.213.176) has quit (Remote host closed the connection)                                                                                                                    . AaronCampbell
[01:58] <_ProtekNickz> Nogal: i know me too with restrictions, like Guest or simple user ACC lol
[01:59] <bazhang> Goonhost, stop that
[02:00] <Goonhost> Sorry.. was punching keyboard to exit fullscreen :)
[02:02] <Nogal> hey here's a super newbie question, how do I connect to different irc servers using empathy? (example: I want to connect to #jupiterbroadcasting which is on irc.geekshed.net)
[02:02] <_ProtekNickz> punching key-b? you don't need a PC you need a boxing buddy lol
[02:02] <Goonhost> lol _ProtekNickz
[02:04] <silverghost> hello all
[02:04] <Nogal> disregard my last newbie question, got it.
[02:05] <_ProtekNickz> Here's a question, the bckaup tool in ubuntu 12.04, i'm using right now as i speak [type], it's backing up "Home" folder and "/", is this correct? or is their more i need to look into to back up?
[02:05] <escott> _ProtekNickz, i would not backup / that seems odd. I would backup /etc and use !clone to copy the package list
[02:05] <Xenobyte> stupidme
[02:05] <Xenobyte> doh
[02:06] <_ProtekNickz> escott: Cheers for that :D
[02:08] <reisio> can you not search _within_ files (grep) from _Nautilus_?
[02:09] <Goonhost> [Paste 5 lines ? [ctrl-Y] Yes [ctrl-N] No]
[02:10] <Nogal> goon.... punching bag, seriously (lol)
[02:11] <_ProtekNickz> lol WTF
[02:11] <Lunar_Lander> sorry got one final question in the system monitor
[02:11] <Lunar_Lander> when I just killed a process, the designator went from my username to root and then the process disappeared
[02:11] <Lunar_Lander> is that normal?
[02:15] <Coded1> hello all
[02:16] <bandit5432> Lunar_Lander, did you sudo kill it or just right click and kill?
[02:16] <Lunar_Lander> right click and "kill process"
[02:17] <Tynach> Hello! Does anybody know the default directories for KVM virtual machines in Ubuntu 11.10?
[02:17] <bandit5432> Lunar_Lamp,   yes that is what it does it doesnt default to show user so i never noticed that before
[02:17] <bandit5432> good to know
[02:17] <ubuntu> papun
[02:18] <_ProtekNickz> Tynach: the /var/lib/libvirt/images/ its self
[02:18] <Tynach> _ProtekNickz: I figured that's where the hard drive images are, but what about the configuration per guest machine? RAM/CPU settings, especially?
[02:19] <_ProtekNickz> Tynach: right.., one sec
[02:19] <rockingsubha666> hello
[02:20] <bandit5432> any one have any ideas how to get gnome-color-manager to actually apply profiles?
[02:20] <Tynach> I'm currently in the Knoppix LiveCD in order to resize my LVM stuff to free a hard drive for backing up before I move to 12.04 (want to do a fresh install). So I can't just start up KVM and see what the directories are, unfortunately; unless I like, chroot into it or something. Don't really want to go through that.
[02:20] <pfifo> when I try to purge chromium-browser, apt-get marks firefox for install. wat? no thats not acceptable at all
[02:21] <Lunar_Lander> bandit5432, ah it did the same thing on your computer too?
[02:21] <_ProtekNickz> Tynach: you can find an XML configuration file for the VM in /etc/libvirt/qemu/ (=> /etc/libvirt/qemu/vm1.xml
[02:21] <cheese1756>  Hi. My sound does not seem to work in winecfg and most Wine applications/games, though it does work while running Minecraft in Wine. Here's a pastebin of testing sound in winecfg: http://pastebin.com/dzxaP7ah. I'm running Linux Mint 12 with Pulseaudio. Does anyone have any ideas?
[02:21] <bandit5432> Lunar_Lander, the system manager yes
[02:21] <Tynach> _ProtekNickz: thanks!
[02:21] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[02:21] <Lunar_Lander> thanks for checking
[02:22] <_ProtekNickz> Tynach: getback to me if that's not it
[02:22] <bandit5432> Lunar_Lamp,  no problem i dont run with it showing user so i never noticed that before
[02:22] <bazhang> cheese1756, #winehq for games support mintsupport channels for mint
[02:22] <bazhang> !mintsupport | cheese1756
[02:22] <pmp6nl> Does Drupal need a mailserver to send notifications?
[02:22] <Lunar_Lander> let me try too
[02:22] <Lunar_Lander> !knoppixsupportt
[02:22] <pmp6nl> wrong channel
[02:22] <Lunar_Lander> !knoppixsupport
[02:22] <bazhang> Lunar_Lander, stop that
[02:22] <Lunar_Lander> I just wanted to see what happens
[02:22] <bandit5432> lmao
[02:22] <Lunar_Lander> sorry
[02:23] <Lunar_Lander> !ubuntusupport
[02:23] <bazhang> Lunar_Lander, /msg ubottu
[02:23] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[02:23] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[02:23] <Lunar_Lander> thanks
[02:23] <bandit5432> got to love the bots
[02:23] <_ProtekNickz> well if they stop idiots then yup!
[02:24] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[02:24] <pfifo> my cromium-browser is not using pulse audio, how can I get it using pulse instead of alsa directly?
[02:25] <Nogal> pfifo: give me a second...
[02:25] <bandit5432> pfifo, how do you even know that its using alsa?
[02:26] <pfifo> bandit5432, well #1 no sound, and #2 the error on the command line, and #3, its not showing up in pavucontrol
[02:26] <bandit5432> pfifo, wierd
[02:26] <Nogal> pfifo: try pavucontrol
[02:26] <Tynach> _ProtekNickz: That appears to be correct. I see the two virtual machines and all their intended settings intact in those XML files. I also see some network and other XML files; I'm going to back up all of this, but use it more as a guideline for recreating things (they may have new defaults, and those new defaults might be better). Thank you!
[02:26] <pfifo> Nogal, it doesnt show up in the controls
[02:27] <cheese1756> How would I port Pulseaudio calls through ALSA? What would I use to do this?
[02:27] <bandit5432> pfifo, can you set the cmd line switch -D use_pulseaudio  ??
[02:28] <_ProtekNickz> I ran down the street the other day and back to my house, ate some Crisps "Potato chips" and i was asked that why was i so cheerful, i replied to my wife, i freed my pc with "LINUX", she smirked then just slapped me :D lol
[02:28] <pfifo> Nogal, the terminal keeps printing this, ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:1018:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
[02:28] <McMozart> are the us archive mirrors undergoing maintenance ? Getting < 500 B/s trying to DL some packages
[02:28] <Lunar_Lander> thanks again bandit5432 and bazhang
[02:28] <Lunar_Lander> good night!
[02:28] <pfifo> bandit5432, can you give me an example
[02:28] <bandit5432> Lunar_Lander, night
[02:29] <bandit5432> pfifo, chromium --use-pulseaudio from a terminal
[02:29] <Tynach> _ProtekNickz: as long as you freed your computer WITH Linux, not freed it OF Linux ;p Otherwise you may be a lot less welcome in here!
[02:29] <bandit5432> how ever you spell it
[02:29] <_ProtekNickz> Tynach: np, yw anytime :)
[02:30] <pfifo> bandit5432, no audio, still printing that error
[02:30] <bandit5432> you on 12.04?
[02:30] <_ProtekNickz> Tynach: tell me about it, i've used it off and on over the years, but now winblows can go die :)
[02:31] <Tynach> _ProtekNickz: I still keep Windows around because Skyrim runs a bit too slugish on WINE right now. But I've not played Skyrim in months.
[02:31] <pfifo> bandit5432, Nogal, and when i pulseaudio -k, restart chromium, sound works fine (12.04)
[02:31] <lazik> Did anyone succeed in upgrading ubuntu 11.10 to 12.04 with the package manager? (without drivers and apps going haywire)
[02:31] <sary> McMozart: i'd try switching to another server , probably a faster one would be better .
[02:32] <_ProtekNickz> Tynach: well, WoW plays fine in wine, but wine a few years back was quite redundant as it was a bugger to work, now it's great :D
[02:33] <_ProtekNickz> lazik: most peeps do a system backup, then fresh install, best way to be honst
[02:33] <darwish> Hi, there used to be a website for tracking kernel patches sent over linux-kernel@vger .. I can't find its URL
[02:33] <Tynach> _ProtekNickz: the first person I ever converted over to Linux, told me up front that the only way he would EVER convert is if Warcraft worked under it. I happened to have an Ubuntu CD, and he happened to have his laptop. Long story short, we installed Ubuntu on his laptop (he had nothing important on it), and we installed Warcraft in a few minutes. 'Nuff said.
[02:34] <Tynach> In fact, he said it ran faster on Ubuntu than it did on Windows (on that laptop). So I consider that a success story.
[02:34] <Nogal> i'm converting someone to linux as we speak
[02:35] <_ProtekNickz> Tynach: "The Smell Of Sweet Success" :D
[02:36] <Nogal> speaking of which, i just finished up gParted, starting the 12.04 install as we speak :D
[02:36] <bandit5432> pfifo,  i see exactly what you mean
[02:37] <pfifo> bandit5432, ahh, --use-pulseaudio did work, I just didnt realize /usr/bin/chromium-browser was a bash script... I should be able to edit the script to --use-pulseaudio
[02:37] <_ProtekNickz> Tynach: i belive so, on winblows about 55FPS roughly LINUX 70 - 75 FPS - My machine is AMD DualCore 4GIG MEM 720GBHD NVIDIA 9400 1gig mem, so i need to UPGRADE this too :D
[02:37] <pfifo> bandit5432, thanks
[02:37] <Areckx> How do I list the contents of my mounted /dev/sd devices?
[02:37] <Areckx> in terminal
[02:37] <bandit5432> pfifo, no problem
[02:37] <Nogal> pfifo, sorry i thought i responded that it was out of my league, sorry about leaving you hanging there.
[02:37] <pfifo> now if i can just figure out why flash inverst colors in videos
[02:37] <bandit5432> pfifo,  lol thats easy
[02:37] <Areckx> ls /dev/sd7 just prints the /dev/sd7
[02:38] <psusi> Areckx, you run ls on the directory where you have it mounted
[02:38] <Nogal> pfifo try right clicking and disabling hardware acceleration
[02:38] <Tynach> Areckx: Go to the folder you mounted it to, and type 'ls'.
[02:38] <Areckx> my iphone isn't mounting for some reason
[02:38] <bandit5432> pfifo,  i used flash-aid firefox plugin
[02:38] <cheese1756> Does anyone know of a package along the lines of pulseaudio-alsa? Something I can use to port alsa calls through pulseaudio?
[02:38] <escott> Areckx, "mount" will tell you want the mountpoint is
[02:38] <bandit5432> pfifo,  you can also edit a couple of files in /etc/adobe but that fix did not work for me
[02:39] <Sheldon420> Areckx, Maybe it's tired.  Try a different position.  I'd recommend the cowgirl.
[02:39] <escott> cheese1756, I would imagine that the alsa emulation is included as part of the standard pulseaudio package
[02:39] <cheese1756> escott: Hmm. Is there some way to check that it's enabled?
[02:39] <Areckx> Sheldon420::  lmao wopw
[02:40] <Tynach> I'm now copying all the home directories. This... Will take a while XD
[02:40] <Sheldon420> Areckx, ;-)
[02:40] <pfifo> bandit5432, chromium not ff
[02:40] <escott> cheese1756, I wonder if pulse is not running prior to your starting the browser?
[02:40] <bandit5432> pfifo,  i am checking on instructions
[02:40] <cheese1756> Starting what browser? It seems to start at login
[02:41] <Tynach> Hey, I've not yet tested it, but on Ubuntu 12.04 with the nouveau driver, do windows using the 'Normal' resize method resize properly (with Compiz)?
[02:41] <Tynach> They do resize just fine here in Knoppix using Nouveau, but I thought I remember trying it with 11.10 and it still was buggy.
[02:41] <pfifo> bandit5432, I cant get a disable HWaccel, atleast not on youtube, google gives a completly different menu
[02:41] <bandit5432> pfifo, see http://askubuntu.com/questions/117127/flash-video-appears-blue
[02:42] <Nogal> Tynach: I'm not sure with nouveau but with the proprietary I have no issues.
[02:42] <linuxjones> how do i get to a log screen where i can see why my installs of 12.04 keep crashing?
[02:42] <escott> cheese1756, sorry thought you were the person from earlier who had trouble with chromium. what makes you think the pulse alsa layer is not working
[02:42] <Tynach> Oh, is pfifo getting that darn smurphing?
[02:42] <pfifo> bandit5432, never mind, I got it with tab key, arrows and the spacebar
[02:42] <_ProtekNickz> linuxjones: What are you doing when it crashes?
[02:43] <Tynach> Nogal: When I say resizing with 'Normal' method, I mean when the window redraws itself as you resize it from a corner. This is not the default behavior on Ubuntu because nVidia proprietary drivers cannot handle it properly. It works TERRIBLY.
[02:43] <pfifo> Tynach, yeah, but its gone now, thanks again bandit5432
[02:43] <Areckx> how do I list all of my mounted devices?
[02:43] <bandit5432> pfifo, i can use youtube but other sites crash so its a real pain
[02:43]  * pfifo emails adobe the whitepaper for YUV overlays
[02:44] <_ProtekNickz> linuxjones: also log file at "/var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[02:44] <bandit5432> pfifo, but i download the flash file and watch it in mplayer so all is good
[02:44] <cheese1756> escott: Winecfg cannot play any sounds, and a user in #winehq suggested that a lack of ALSA compatibility might be the problem.
[02:44] <Tynach> Areckx: Type 'mount' by itself to list mounted devices.
[02:44] <cheese1756> Here's a pastebin: http://pastebin.com/dzxaP7ah
[02:44] <linuxjones> _ProtekNickz i boot from the cd, everything goes fine, it spits it out and restarts and crashes on the ubuntu loading screen, mouse still moves but it sits there forever
[02:44] <bandit5432> pfifo, the patch for vdpau looks promising http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=2518770#post2518770
[02:45] <pfifo> bandit5432, downloading is alright sometimes, but i have like 300 musicvideos in a playlist on yt, dont really want to download them
[02:45] <_ProtekNickz> linuxjones: so your using LIVE CD?
[02:45] <Tynach> bandit5432: the patch for vdpau is like a band-aid on a severed arm.
[02:45] <Tynach> Ultimately, Adobe will have to fix their own crap.
[02:45] <bandit5432> Tynach, they want flash to die and this will do it for them
[02:46] <linuxjones> _ProtekNickz yes, tried the windows installer and usb install before that
[02:46] <Malsasa> Hello, how to request feature to Nautilus Developer?
[02:46] <linuxjones> same thing
[02:46] <escott> cheese1756, ok im not sure what that guy is suggesting. but if ps aux | grep pulse shows it running I would think the alsa emulation would work
[02:46] <bazhang> !brainstorm | Malsasa
[02:47] <cheese1756> escott: Pulse is definitely running, for sure
[02:47] <Malsasa> Thank you
[02:47] <Tynach> Malsasa: Nautilus is part of the Gnome desktop environment. If you want to talk to the Nautilus devs, you might want to try the Gnome channel (Don't know what it is off hand).
[02:47] <Malsasa> GNOME Channel?
[02:47] <Malsasa> What is the name?
[02:47] <bazhang> !alis | Malsasa
[02:48] <Tynach> Probably #gnome, but I'm in Pidgin (which is a terrible IRC client) and I don't know how to search for channels with it.
[02:48] <_ProtekNickz> linuxjones: ok did you use same IMG.iso you d/l for the CD & USB? if do did you check the IMG.iso chksum, make sure it d/l ok, and when you burned to cd what speed did you burn at, if at max speed then cd may have burned krappy, try burning at 2x or 4x
[02:48] <Malsasa> ubottu: oh, thanks. It is new for me
[02:49] <bandit5432> Malsasa, try #gnome on irc.gimp.net
[02:49] <Malsasa> Okay, i found it.
[02:49] <escott> cheese1756, maybe it isn't using libalsa-pulse?
[02:49] <sant> hey, im having trouble booting ubuntu from an external HD using a mac, im wondering if you guys could help me, thx n advance
[02:49] <craigbass1976> I see all sorts of sites telling me how to run ubuntu on my android phone.  How do I get android running on my computer?  I really want to play tank hero with a mouse and keyboard...
[02:50] <bazhang> craigbass1976, ask in an android channel
[02:50] <_ProtekNickz> _ProtekNickz: try Re-download the ISO and check the chksum, then burn at 2 to 4 X speed
[02:50] <cheese1756> escott: I'm thinking it might be something like that
[02:50] <_ProtekNickz> ffs
[02:50] <Malsasa> Oh, people there ask me to go to http://bugzilla.gnome.org
[02:50] <_ProtekNickz> linuxjones: try Re-download the ISO and check the chksum, then burn at 2 to 4 X speed
[02:51] <craigbass1976> bazhang, touche
[02:51] <bazhang> craigbass1976, #android
[02:51] <darkmark> iyi akþamlar
[02:51] <sant> it prints the following error: Not Found returned from legacy loader
[02:51] <darkmark> kolay gelsin herkeze
[02:52] <darkmark> www.sohbettube.com  keyboard typing test text
[02:52] <Tynach> _ProtekNickz: did you just talk to yourself, then talk about the fast fourier transform?
[02:54] <bp0> the nvidia driver installed by ubuntu 12.04 causes the entire system to hang right after installation. I have the same problem in windows with the 295 series, bu I can just use an older driver. how can I use an older version of the driver in ubuntu?
[02:54] <_ProtekNickz> Tynach: i didnt speak to my self yes lil mistake lmao
[02:54] <bandit5432> arggg gnome-color-manager does not work :C
[02:55] <_ProtekNickz> I use KDE, Much easier to work with :D
[02:55] <psych> Can someone lend me a hand with tune2fs? Even after telling it not to reserve blocks it still seems to be doing the same thing. 28 GB used on 2 TB without anything done to it
[02:55] <bandit5432> sure it is so is vista :P
[02:55] <_ProtekNickz> Vista PFFFFFFT!!!!
[02:55] <escott> psych, what command did you use
[02:56] <Tynach> bandit5432: KDE has left the 'Vista-ish' years now. 4.8 is quite usable and stable, and only uses 100 MB more RAM than Gnome does for me, on average.
[02:56] <Tynach> And it uses LESS CPU.
[02:56] <escott> cheese1756, you could check with ldd, maybe try an ld_preload?
[02:56] <psych> escott, I've tried tune2fs -m 0 /dev/sdb1 and tune2fs -r 0 /dev/sdb1
[02:56] <bandit5432> _ProtekNickz, Tynach, is monitor profiling working on kde for you?
[02:56] <psych> Both report doing what they should have, but when the partition is mounted it still says 28 GB used
[02:57] <cheese1756> escott: How would I do that?
[02:57] <Tynach> _ProtekNickz: I don't use monitor profiling. However, I once tried it for the sake of trying it, in Unity/Gnome, and it worked just fine. I don't remember what I did to make it work, but there are two types of profiles: Profiles that only work inside graphics applications (like Gimp and Scribus), and profiles that have enough data for use on the entire screen.
[02:57] <_ProtekNickz> Tynach: well i'm comfotable with KDE quite nice i like it, Gnome to me seemed basic, but i aint used it in a while
[02:57] <Tynach> Er, that's supposed to go to bandit5432.
[02:57] <Tynach> Sorry _ProtekNickz.
[02:58] <escott> psych and that gives you no errors? but tune2fs -l /dev/sdb1 shows what?
[02:58] <escott> cheese1756, start with ldd `which winecfg` | grep alsa
[02:58] <Tynach> _ProtekNickz: I use both KDE and Gnome, depending on mood. I prefer KDE overall, but Unity conserves vertical screen space better; so I end up using that most of the time.
[02:58] <psych> escott, mind if I link you to the forum thread?
[02:58] <escott> psych thats fine
[02:59] <psych> escott, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1982635
[02:59] <isoscelesrectang> Hi. I've got a Magic Trackpad that I want to try multitouch with. I know Magic Trackpad support is officially included in Quetzal, but is there any way to get it working in Pangolin right now?
[03:00] <_ProtekNickz> Tynach: bandit5432: I'm actually back on linux now, of an on for a few years, why i was bouncing i dunno, Stating with linux now, put it on wifes laptop too, works wounders, even when i was using it back in the 90's :)
[03:00] <escott> psych, so your problem is that the reserved block count is zero, but the free blocks is less than the block count
[03:01] <cheese1756> escott: Thanks. I'll look into this more tomorrow. Thank you for your help
[03:01] <Tynach> isoscelesrectang: I'm not sure what you mean by Magic Trackpad, but if you mean a laptop mousepad that uses multitouch gestures, yes you can use it in Ubuntu. Go to the mouse settings, there should be a tab for a mouse trackpad or something like that. In it it has options for 'two finger scrolling'. I believe there are options in Compiz for doing gestures with multiple fingers, I don't know though. My laptop trackpad doesn't support it :(
[03:01] <isoscelesrectang> Tynach: Sorry, I meant an Apple Magic Trackpad.
[03:01] <Tynach> isoscelesrectang: I have no idea then. I have never and probably never will buy anything from Apple.
[03:02] <_ProtekNickz> Apple - lol, NC
[03:02] <psych> escott, I'm not sure. It still says 28 GB used in df -h. But yeah, free blocks is less than block counts
[03:02] <isoscelesrectang> Tynach: Haha understandably so.
[03:02] <psych> I just don't want 28 GB used
[03:03] <Tynach> _ProtekNickz: My first encounter with Linux was when my mobo went bad, and Windows refused to recognize the new one as the same computer. So I had to install something else, and that was... Debian 4, I believe. Dad gave me a stack of all 13 CDs and told me to have fun.
[03:03] <escott> psych, i wonder what running an fsck would do
[03:03] <_ProtekNickz> Tynach: LMAO, and some fun you had i bet ;)
[03:03] <_ProtekNickz> lol
[03:03] <bandit5432> isoscelesrectang, have you looked at the https://code.google.com/p/touchegg/ project?
[03:04] <psych> escott, I can give it a try I guess
[03:04] <isoscelesrectang> bandit5432: Looking, and ah----. It appears that the Great Firewall of China has blocked Google Code...
[03:04] <psych> escott, fsco -a alright for this?
[03:04] <psych> *fsck
[03:05] <Tynach> _ProtekNickz: oh you bet! I reinstalled my system about 10 times a day, for weeks! My dad didn't let me have Internet at the time (I was what... 13?), so I had to use only the CDs. But I had an ATi graphics card, and could not get the screen resolution quite right... So I ended up messing with xorg.conf and screwing the system up (I thought no GUI meant the system was corrupt and I had to reinstall).
[03:05] <bandit5432> isoscelesrectang, lovely
[03:05] <psych> escott, fsck from util-linux 2.20.1
[03:05] <psych> /dev/sdb1: clean, 11/122101760 files, 7713419/488378368 blocks
[03:05] <bazhang> !ot | Tynach _ProtekNickz
[03:05] <Tynach> _ProtekNickz: Eventually I got Windows XP back, and didn't touch Linux again until I was 15/16, at which time I decided to try Ubuntu because it was Debian based (and it was at least somewhat going to be familiar with what I already knew).
[03:06] <isoscelesrectang> bandid5432: I take it touchegg is a project similar to uTouch?
[03:06] <escott> psych also what does df say about the filesystem on /dev/sdb1
[03:06] <bandit5432> isoscelesrectang, i dont have a clue i am just looking up the question
[03:06] <Tynach> Sorry bazhang. I'll quiet down unless answering support questions, or asking my own.
[03:06] <_ProtekNickz> Tynach: yes i use ubuntu myself, i love it, runs great
[03:06] <psych> escott, when unmounted I see this:
[03:07] <psych> Filesystem     1K-blocks  Used Available Use% Mounted on
[03:07] <psych> udev             1821264     0   1821264   0% /dev
[03:07] <isoscelesrectang> bandit5432: haha okay, thank you! :)
[03:07] <psych> Filesystem      1K-blocks     Used  Available Use% Mounted on
[03:07] <psych> /dev/sdb1      1951642280 28982484 1922659796   2% /mnt/Transfer
[03:07] <escott> psych. df wont tell you anything when it is unmounted
[03:07] <bandit5432> isoscelesrectang, see if this site works http://www.webupd8.org/2011/02/assign-actions-to-multi-touch-trackpad.html
[03:07] <psych> I didn't think so :) just posting to be sure
[03:08] <bandit5432> isoscelesrectang, can you get to ppa's look at https://launchpad.net/~utouch-team/+archive/daily for installers
[03:08] <pilotbub> whats the release date for duplicitous dung-beetle
[03:08] <bazhang> !ot | pilotbub
[03:09] <isoscelesrectang> bandit5432: It appears touchegg is in the official repositories. Giving that a shot.
[03:10] <bandit5432> isoscelesrectang, good find
[03:10] <isoscelesrectang> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[03:10] <isoscelesrectang> Oh dear.
[03:11] <bandit5432> eeeww
[03:11] <escott> psych, im not sure. thats very strange.
[03:12] <psych> escott, should I perhaps repartition? Do you know if there's a way to select block size reserve space in parted or something
[03:12] <psych> I'm doing this headless, unfortunately, so no gui for me
[03:12] <escott> psych, to be honest i would just leave it at 5%. if you actually start using more than 95% of the filesystem thats not good and you need to get more storage
[03:13] <psych> Alright, I appreciate it
[03:13] <escott> psych, so in some ways that 5% buffer is only preventing you from doing something you probably wouldn't want to do anyways
[03:13] <psych> haha that's true
[03:14] <psych> I guess it's there for a reason, 28 GB just seems like a lot to not be able to have access to
[03:14] <escott> psych, if its really empty you could just rerun mkfs with the correct options
[03:14] <lazik> I tried starcraft 2 with wine, it lagged too much. Anyone tried running Win7 in a Vmware workstation to play sc2?
[03:14] <psych> escott, that's what I'm looking at doing.
[03:14] <bandit5432> you can chenge the percentage
[03:14] <psych> I've got nothing to lose.
[03:14] <ZaNeIuM> anyone have an ion-2 mb with working sound out hdmi that can give me some help
[03:15] <escott> psych, it helps prevent fragmentation. 28Gb may be bigger than necessary, but there is no guarantee that those 28GB will be contiguous so 5% isn't crazy
[03:15] <bandit5432> escott, sudo tune2fs -m 0 /dev/sd** to put the percent to 0 change sd**
[03:15] <escott> bandit5432, yeah he did that, but it didnt take effect
[03:16] <bandit5432> what fs are you using?
[03:16] <psych> ext4
[03:16] <bandit5432> let me look
[03:17] <_ProtekNickz> have fun peeps i'm am off :P
[03:17] <xixor> yo, just installed 12.04.  In unity, how does one run a terminal?  I want to install and use lubuntu-desktop
[03:17] <escott> bandit5432, to be more specific it shows as 0 in tune2fs -l, but the space is reserved in df -h
[03:17] <Nogal> xixor: ctrl+alt+t
[03:18] <psych> escott, bandit5432 I ran  sudo mkfs.ext4 -m 0 /dev/sdb1
[03:18] <psych>  just to fool around and it shows the same thing
[03:18] <Tynach> xixor: you can also just go to the Unity menu and type in 'terminal', and that will bring you to a terminal.
[03:18] <krababbel_> lazik: it won't be faster surely
[03:18] <xixor> Tynach: ah, I see.. the unity menu is "dash home" ?
[03:18] <psych> -m is the switch for reserved block percentage in ext4
[03:18] <psych> well in mkfs.ext4
[03:18] <xixor> Tynach: what program is used for managing/installing packages now?  is it still synaptic?
[03:18] <bandit5432> tune2fs -r 0 /dev/sdxX ??
[03:19] <psych> bandit5432, I tried that as well
[03:19] <Tynach> xixor: that's the "Ubuntu Software Center". SHould be on the left bar by default.
[03:19] <bandit5432> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/coreutils/+question/195208
[03:19] <Tynach> xixor: or you can use apt-get to get synaptic, if you don't already have it (I don't know if you did a fresh install, or if you upgraded).
[03:20] <xixor> Tynach: yeah, fresh install, default ubuntu desktop.  I've never tried unity, so wanted to give it ago, but my computer is pretty underpowered, it is a laptop from 2005 (thinkpad x60), so it is a little sluggish, and I want to give the lbuntu desktop a try
[03:22] <catball32> Can't purchase through software center.  Throws 3DSecure error, whatever that is.
[03:22] <Tynach> xixor: have you tried Ubuntu 2D? In the login menu, you can choose to do a 2D version of Unity.
[03:22] <psych> Good find bandit5432
[03:22] <xixor> Tynach: no, I haven't.  I have it set to auto-login, so I don't see that menu
[03:23] <psych> That might be what I'm running into here.
[03:23] <Tynach> xixor: Ah, well, try logging out and then going in from there. I believe that sets the default to 2D as well :)
[03:23] <Tynach> You click on the 'gear' icon to choose what desktop environment you go into.
[03:23] <bandit5432> psych, and you got me to go look at my own fs as well
[03:23] <Tynach> Installing lubuntu-desktop would have the same problem for you; you'd have to log out and back in to the new environment anyway.
[03:24] <xixor> Tynach: ok, thanks, will give it ago, the installation of lubuntu-desktop is just finished, going to give xmonad a try as well
[03:24] <bandit5432> psych, nope just ran it on one of my partitions and it change from 26 to 46 free space
[03:24] <xixor> Tynach: in terms of performance on a weak system, is there anything that gnome/unity might leave running in the background?  indexing services, things like that, which I might want to turn off?
[03:25] <pilotbub> delirious dungbeetle
[03:25] <catball32> is this the right spot for software center problems?
[03:25] <krababbel_> maybe
[03:25] <celthunder> xixor: quite a few things ilkely
[03:26] <pilotbub> first off its software centre
[03:26] <bandit5432> psych, what does sudo tune2fs -l /dev/sd** | grep "Reserved block count" show?
[03:26] <chodestevens> hey quick question everyone
[03:26] <psych> bandit5432, I was hopeful! I thought I've seen this before though
[03:26] <pilotbub> hey chode
[03:26] <chodestevens> hello
[03:26] <chodestevens> so it involves
[03:26] <chodestevens> flash
[03:26] <chodestevens> i am admittedly a novice ubuntu user
[03:26] <Tynach> xixor: probably, I'm afraid. You can go to the System Settings (or whatever they call it, should be in the menu thing in the top right corner of Unity, top option or so), go to Privacy, and turn that off. That turns off logging of different things.
[03:27] <pilotbub> h.264 i mean ogg all the way man
[03:27] <psych> bandit5432, Reserved block count:     0
[03:27] <bandit5432> psych, so whats the problem?
[03:27] <celthunder> xixor: you really only need dbus and the kernel in the background for x.
[03:27] <chodestevens> I am using 11.10 and cannot for the life of me get flash to work
[03:27] <psych> bandit5432, df -h is showing 28 GB used
[03:28] <xixor> Tynach: yeah, but lets say I boot to lubuntu-desktop, are there gnome/unity services that will be running in the background, even if I don't log into that kind of desktop ?
[03:28] <bandit5432> psych, how big of a drive is it do you have and thing .trash?
[03:28] <psych> bandit5432, I'm trying to figure out why 28 GB are used when the partition is empty and reserved space is set to 0
[03:28] <psych> bandit5432, 2 TB and no
[03:28] <psych> I just finished using mkfs.ext4 on it again
[03:29] <chodestevens>  I am using 11.10 and cannot for the life of me get flash to work, can anyone help?
[03:29] <bandit5432> psych, 28gigs would not be bad for disk usage with 2TB
[03:29] <chodestevens> it is very frustrating
[03:29] <bazhang> chodestevens, no need to repost so quickly
[03:29] <Tynach> xixor: I don't know if Lubuntu (LXDE, I think?) will start Gnome stuff or not. It might.
[03:29] <chodestevens> sorry, im used to the mfa irc where things move quickly
[03:29] <NoWayJose> I want to be a super cool computer programmer.  Where to learn? :/
[03:30] <psych> bandit5432, I agree it's not much in comparison to 2 TB but when I've set it to 0 it should be 0. I'm using it to store data so it's not absolutely essential it's there.
[03:30] <xixor> Tynach: ok, well thanks for the help there, I will keep playing with things
[03:30] <bandit5432> psych, the formating will take some disk space
[03:30] <bazhang> !ot | NoWayJose
[03:30] <celthunder> NoWayJose: google the library and maybe college if you want
[03:30] <Tynach> NoWayJose: This isn't the channel to ask about that. However, I would recommend googling the book "Byte of Python". Python is a great programming language for beginners, and Byte of Python is a free book for learning it.
[03:30] <pilotbub> chode try the latest beta
[03:30] <NoWayJose> bazhang, Ah, I thought ubuntu would have some progammers in it that would lead me where to learn.
[03:30] <NoWayJose> Tynach, Thanks!
[03:30] <Tynach> NoWayJose: that said, I never really 'Got' programming until I took college classes on the subject. I would highly suggest you do so.
[03:31] <chodestevens> pilotbub: how?
[03:31] <celthunder> Tynach: nothing really to get in programming its just breaking stuff down into small problems and yes no etc
[03:31] <Tynach> NoWayJose: if you take classes in college, I would recommend taking a class in Java. They focus a lot in object oriented programming and good programming design, so it's a good language to learn if you're serious about being GOOD at it. That said, don't use a lot of Java in the real world; learn C++ after that.
[03:31] <psych> bandit5432, I guess it might. I just saw another thread in the server section that specifically mentioned 28 GB on a disk that is 2 TB and that was because of these blocks. Also, how come free space doesn't increase when set to 0
[03:32] <bazhang> Tynach, lets get back on topic please
[03:32] <pilotbub> Java is a good way to compromise systems
[03:32] <bandit5432> psych, part of that is for your journal
[03:34] <psych> Ah well
[03:34] <bandit5432> psych, its why when you format a drive its always smaller than the purchase price
[03:35] <psych> I always thought that was due to the difference between GB and GiB or something
[03:35] <celthunder> bandit5432: uhm thats because hw is 1024 sold 1000 bytes
[03:35] <psych> Due to how they advertise
[03:36] <krababbel_> which is great
[03:36] <lewis> What's up ubuntu comun. if i may ask a question i probly all ready know the answer to but hoping if this option is logical.--- my f'd my sys prem's up messing with chown ... my typo =>"/." has costed me
[03:36] <psych> Anyway, I'm not worried anymore
[03:36] <psych> bandit5432, escott I appreciate your help. Seeing as how I can't get this figured out I'll leave it as it is. Like everyones said, 28 GB isn't a lot to lose and it can be beneficial
[03:36] <bandit5432> no problem
[03:36] <lewis> the question is if i bkup /home two another drive and reinstall will it work
[03:36] <lewis> not two to :)
[03:37] <celthunder> lewis: yes
[03:37] <bandit5432> lewis yes i do that all the time
[03:37] <celthunder> lewis: assuming its not your home dir that has broken configs etc
[03:37] <bazhang> !home | lewis
[03:37] <bandit5432> psych, ie A small percentage of the drive's available space is used to store filesystem-related data and can be considered as overhead.
[03:38] <lewis> cool lol i almost went on a drink'n mission for the night lol
[03:38] <bandit5432> psych, see http://serverfault.com/questions/282317/disk-space-overhead-in-ext4
[03:39] <celthunder> lewis: it is friday....
[03:39] <bandit5432> psych, With the default options, every 128mb of disk gets 2 mb ( 8192 x 256 bytes each ) of inodes, or 1.6% overhead. so 2tb would = 32 gigs of overhead
[03:40] <psych> bandit5432, I saw that just now. I think we're getting a little over my head with talk of inodes and stuff :)
[03:40] <bandit5432> psych, its how all formating works linux windows etc
[03:41] <bandit5432> psych,  you loose disk space when you format
[03:41] <escott> bandit5432, how does that work with extents? shouldn't the inode allocation be deferred until the extents are known?
[03:42] <bandit5432> escott, i dont know what that means
[03:43] <psych> It.. appears to be so. If I can trust wikipedia here :P
[03:44] <bandit5432> escott, extents is the default behavior of ext4
[03:44] <escott> bandit5432, i always thought that inodes were layed out on disk as needed and not preallocated onto the disk. and since ext4 has extents (large contiguous blocks for a file) I would think the layout would have to be deferred until data is ready to be put on the disk
[03:44] <bandit5432> that does not change the disk overhead when you mkfs
[03:45] <lewis> thanks comun. ... i started with 4 OS's in my system. and now two left Windows crashed and burn horriblely, fedora updated and loop restarts, ubuntu is my only friend til now lol, hackintosh lion is left..... im losing my soldiers
[03:46] <psych> lewis, I think it's time for a retreat
[03:48] <bandit5432> ok i am out
[03:48] <psych> later
[03:55] <ubuntu> probro
[03:57] <Guest52262> куихобн
[04:05] <andrewkreid> Can someone help me with a problem installing 12.04? It's a fresh install of the 64-bit version. Install appears to have hung. Last log line is "Processing triggers for update-notifier-common"
[04:06] <psych> andrewkreid, How long have you been waiting there? I'm not saying it hasn't hung, but I had to sit for about 20 minutes at one step without any notification things were happening.
[04:06] <Qalqi> where does xrdp store its sessions?
[04:06] <andrewkreid> It's probably been about 30 minutes. I'll keep waiting...
[04:07] <K-Rich> ummmm i have an issue and not sure why.... i seem to be runniny unity 2d :/
[04:07] <K-Rich> and not 3d
[04:08] <andrewkreid> whaddaya know. It just finished :)
[04:08] <psych> Ha
[04:08] <psych> Great stuff!
[04:11] <jiffe1> so I'm trying to iscsi boot ubuntu 12.04, my bios supports iscsi so I exported a disk I have ubuntu installed on via iscsi and I see it boot, it gets past grub, I see it load ethernet and usb, but then it says 'Gave up waiting for root device', any idea how I might resolve this?
[04:15] <lewis> jiffe1: run the install disk check your dev location and modify your grub menu list settings under gksudo auth
[04:16] <escott> jiffe1, you might need to do something to get iscsi supported inside the initrd
[04:17] <escott> jiffe1, the bios support for iscsi boot support is stops when grub takes over. it guarantees that grub is started and that grub sees the partitions on that device as the standard ide1 disk, but once the initrd is loaded into memory and the kernel started its up to the kernel to go find that device again
[04:18] <menturi> Hello. I have been having some driver issues that caused a kernal panic on startup. I physically removed the wireless, and ubuntu started fine. I ran into some forum posts which led me to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#b43_-_No_Internet_access . I have followed the steps, however once i get to step 4, i dont see anything listed. must the hardware be connected in order to install drivers for it?
[04:21] <lewis> jiffe1: escott: know when it's found i believe when grub acknowledges a drive for example /dev/sdb when trans to export that drive=> "sdb" is renamed!
[04:24] <lewis> menturi: yes
[04:26] <stephenmcd> anyone else getting really low bandwidth with apt-get update ?
[04:26] <menturi> lewis, unfortunately i cannot start ubuntu with the hardware conneted due to the kernel panic.
[04:26] <haylo> stephenmcd, you might be real far away from your chosen mirror
[04:26] <haylo> thats what usually makes apt-get get slowly
[04:26] <stephenmcd> haylo: yea I am but it's never been a problem before :\
[04:27] <psych> stephenmcd, I think there was someone in here before having an issue with a us mirror
[04:28] <jiffe1> escott: that makes sense since I don't see anything under /dev that looks like a disk device
[04:28] <stephenmcd> psych: thanks
[04:28] <lewis> menturi: did you remove bcm pakages before steps
[04:28] <dr_willis> 20 kB per sec on updates
[04:29] <menturi> i guess not. silly me hehe. let me try to do so, and ill get back to you shortly.
[04:29] <jiffe1> escott: so is it possible for me to pull / from iscsi?
[04:30] <escott> jiffe1, my guess is that: if there is an iscsi module you need to load then you will want to put that in your /etc/modules and rerun update-initramfs
[04:30] <adv__> Help: listen on serial output of any usb device on linux?
[04:30] <tomodo> I just upgraded ubuntu, where do people talk about it?
[04:31] <dr_willis> support talk here
[04:32] <tomodo> not support
[04:32] <dr_willis> the update servers do seem slow here.. takjeing several min to update the list today
[04:32] <dr_willis> !ot
[04:33] <dr_willis> ifits complaints.. well.. take it to the forums. :)
[04:33] <menturi> lewis, I have a silly question: how do i remove the bcm packages beforehand?
[04:34] <lewis> i always used the synatic package manager
[04:37] <stephenmcd> dr_willis: same here
[04:38] <menturi> unfortunately it is not installed by default. the ubuntu software center results in no results under 'Installed', and for 'History', only results in 'libcmis-0.2.0 (0.1.0-1)'
[04:38] <menturi> Forgot to highlight, lewis
[04:38] <dr_willis> i never have figured out what thse translation_en servers are i see when updateing the pacckage listings.
[04:39] <menturi> (that is when i searched for 'bcm')
[04:40] <dr_willis> translation-en_US they seem to show up every so often. ;)
[04:40] <tomodo> what library is used to make a GUI program in GNU/Linux?
[04:41] <dr_willis> tomodo:  theres dozens of gui widgit toolkits you could use.
[04:41] <dr_willis> xlib, gtk, qt,
[04:41] <tomodo> ok
[04:41] <lewis> menturi: if you type bcm in quick filter the following is removed and or not installed right b43-fwcutter / broadcom-sta-source / broadcom-sta-common / firmware-b43-installer / and bcmwl-kernel-source right
[04:41] <dr_willis> gtk3 is the one used by most new gnome apps these days
[04:41] <tomodo> thanks
[04:42] <Conradzz> Whats up?  I'm back!
[04:42] <dr_willis> now if you ment what language is used.. :) theres dozens more of them
[04:42] <Conradzz> So doesn't anyone know how to revert updates when you can't get past the login screen?
[04:42] <dr_willis> Conradzz:  what oes the login screen do exacctly when you login?
[04:43] <Conradzz> Freeze completely, its a hard freeze
[04:43] <dr_willis> cant ssh in from a remote box  eh:
[04:43] <L3top> Conradzz: are you sure your updates completed
[04:43] <Conradzz> Yes, they asked me to restart so I did
[04:43] <dr_willis> boot to text mode/recovery and try to trouble shoot..
[04:43] <lewis> conradzz can you access recovery mode
[04:43] <Conradzz> yup I'm in recovery mode right now
[04:44] <Coded1> I have an Asus M5A99X AM3+ mother board, AMD FX-6100 proc and Nvidia GT520 GPU.  Both Ubuntu and Lubuntu freeze the system upon bootup on or close to the Nouveau drivers load.  What is the kernel option I need to just use standard VGA?
[04:44] <dr_willis> if its just x causeing issues. you could try 'startx' and see if any error messages appear
[04:44] <lewis> did you see what updates you allowed
[04:44] <lewis> conradzz:
[04:44] <Conradzz> nope, there were a few though
[04:44] <dr_willis> !nomodeset | Coded1
[04:44] <Optichip> Coded1: did you do a nomodeset
[04:44] <Conradzz> I logged on and the window came up saying I had updates, so I hit ok
[04:45] <dr_willis> Conradzz:  so lightdm loads and you can enter name/pass and login but it freexes  as your users desktop is staring? or does lightdm also freeze?
[04:45] <lewis> sad to say but i had something like this happen to me in ub 9
[04:46] <L3top> Coded1: assuming nomodeset doesn't work you should be able to force-vesa... but what I expect you really want to do is install the proprietary drivers for that gpu.
[04:46] <Conradzz> not sure what you mean by lightdm, but I get to the login screen, and don't even get to type my password
[04:46] <dr_willis> login screen is lightdm
[04:46] <menturi> lewis: strangely, after searching all of those, nothing came up for any of them. (I apologize for my newbieness; I feel helpless by myself with this problem, and am pretty new to ubuntu & linux in general).
[04:46] <Conradzz> then yup, I get to lightdm, and it freezes within 2-3 seconds
[04:46] <L3top> Optichip: is your name indicative of the optimus gpu?
[04:47] <Optichip> L3top: nope, was created in the memory of the OptiChip Chipset.
[04:47] <Optichip> or Opti Chipset rather
[04:47] <L3top> Optichip: just checking :)
[04:47] <Optichip> man it's been a long time :)
[04:47] <Hoyt> hi , is there a server DVD available ?
[04:47] <Hoyt> ubuntu-server dvd
[04:48] <dr_willis> Conradzz:  id get into text mode. make sure ssh is installed, so you can ssh in from a differnt box. and try 'startx' and  look for errors
[04:48] <dr_willis> Hoyt:  the dvd dosent really havve much on it thats not on the  cd
[04:48] <dr_willis> More languages i belive.. and perhaps a few other things
[04:48] <Hoyt> more packages ?
[04:48] <Conradzz> I'm in recovery mode right now, dropped to root
[04:48] <Hoyt> that's what I want
[04:48] <dr_willis> not really more packages..
[04:49] <Hoyt> yeah
[04:49] <Hoyt> i see the descrition ,
[04:49] <dr_willis> unless you mean language packages
[04:49] <Hoyt> seems to be a LIVE CD + normal server cd
[04:49] <Hoyt> not sure
[04:49] <lewis> menturi: lol dont trip you searched "bcm" and the rest should've showed but if they didnt one sec
[04:49] <Hoyt> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04/release/
[04:49] <dr_willis> i rarely even try the dvd.  Not much need for it ffor most people
[04:49] <Hoyt> okay
[04:50] <Conradzz> dropped into root if I run startx it gives me a fatal server error, do I need to mount the file system first?
[04:50] <dr_willis> i recall ages ago a project to make an unofficial 'extra packages' cd for ubuntu with a lot of the extra drivers and so forth on it.
[04:51] <dr_willis> Conradzz:  this is why i normalluy try 'text' mode first. no need to mount stuff.. its a normal bootup. just no X starting
[04:52] <lewis> conradzz: the filesystem should have been mounted on login
[04:52] <dr_willis> !text
[04:52] <Conradzz> I can't login thats the problem
[04:52] <dr_willis> bbl
[04:52] <Conradzz> I start my computer, select the ubuntu partition
[04:52] <lewis> conradzz: what i did in the pass was reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[04:52] <Conradzz> and then it freezes
[04:52] <dr_willis> the CONSOLE of the text mode should let you login
[04:52] <dr_willis> thers moree then one way to login :)
[04:52] <dr_willis> no gui is needed in text mode to login
[04:53] <lewis> apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[04:53] <dr_willis> bbl
[04:53] <Conradzz> I'm in, I dropped into root, mounted the file system and then it let me run startx without errors
[04:53] <lewis> but first try a package repair
[04:53] <Conradzz> ya I ran dpkg and it didn't seem like it was doing anything
[04:54] <lewis> well i've did this sorry bandaid aswell lol
[04:55] <Conradzz> anyone know any good sites that will help me troubleshoot this?
[04:55] <lewis> i remove ubuntu desktop and install kde desktop
[04:56] <Conradzz> don't they both use the x-server thing?
[04:56] <Conradzz> I thought I remember seeing somewhere someone said the problem was xorg breaks all the time
[04:56] <sary> Conradzz: you could try reconfiguring X and lightdm .
[04:57] <lewis> xorg does i had a week of nvidia issue and menturi: i didnt forget about you im look for the solution i had notes on everything i've did in the os world(s)
[04:58] <Conradzz> ya, in the week I've had ubuntu now, this is my second time getting a hard freeze
[04:58] <Conradzz> I assumed the first time was because I installed the proprietary drivers, so I didn't this time
[04:58] <lewis> the way I fixed xorg after trying to reconfig i removed ..... one sec
[04:59] <sary> Conradzz: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=690760
[04:59] <menturi> lewis, i appreciate the help. i am understanding there is more than just me here :P
[04:59] <lewis> conradzz: it was a .conf file lol i believe it was xorg.cong
[04:59] <sary> Conradzz: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/Freeze
[05:00] <sary> IT should be sudo service lighdm stop ..
[05:00] <sary> then answer those quesions after running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:00] <linuxjones> arg
[05:01] <lewis> but anyway i removed that and once the system came back with flying colors i created a blank in it's place and reconfigured my screens
[05:01] <Optichip> There any good apps for making CF bootable drives from ISOs?
[05:01] <bluesnow> Hi, is there any way to use the Unity dash after disabling the unity plugin?
[05:01] <bluesnow> I'm using a dock, but I'd like to use the dash still
[05:01] <lewis> menturi: i'm back one more sec lol sorry
[05:03] <jmkokott> hello
[05:03] <lewis> menturi: apt-get remove --force-yes <PACKAGENAME> do this with the following packages i listed above and let me know sudo is required
[05:04] <menturi> Okay.
[05:04] <Conradzz> weird, I just used Ctrl alt f1, and my screen faded fuzzy white
[05:06] <Mike9863> When I set this image as my wallpaper, it seems to lose saturation. Can anyone help me fix this issue? Here is a picture of what I'm experiencing: http://imgur.com/nA7Eh
[05:06] <menturi> lewis --  b43-fwcutter:
[05:06] <menturi> sry bumped entep
[05:07] <menturi> r
[05:08] <lewis> menturi: if that doesn't hit the spot try =>      dpkg -P --force-depends <PACKAGENAME> to see ..... b43-fwcutter / broadcom-sta-source / broadcom-sta-common / firmware-b43-installer / and bcmwl-kernel-source
[05:10] <ActionParsnip> Mike9863: does it happen with all images?
[05:10] <ActionParsnip> Lewis: you're using force a lot...
[05:11] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom
[05:11] <Mike9863> ActionParsnip: I don't think so. When I open the image in GIMP it tells me that the image has an embedded color profile "Adoble RGB (1998)". Could this have anything to do with it?
[05:11] <lewis> force? is that a prob or is there another means?
[05:12] <palaceofhate> hi＾
[05:12] <jmkokott> hi
[05:12] <jmkokott> ^
[05:12] <ActionParsnip> lewis: it shouldnt be needed for normal installations
[05:12] <Conradzz> I'm beginning to think linux isn't for me lol
[05:12] <jmkokott> it is
[05:13] <krababbel> Mike9863: where does it have more saturation?
[05:13] <ActionParsnip> Mike9863: try a PNG, see if its better. Plenty online
[05:14] <Mike9863> I changed the color profile and the saturation was restored. Thanks.
[05:14] <Conradzz> how long does it usually take to boot into failsafemode from recovery?
[05:14] <ActionParsnip> Conradzz: its not always the answer
[05:15] <jmkokott> what is your problem Conradzz
[05:15] <lewis> actionparsnip: lol in linux what is normal
[05:15] <ActionParsnip> Conradzz: if you use terminal a lot I suggest you install guake
[05:15] <Conradzz> freeze on boot, this time I didn't even get to the login screen
[05:15] <menturi> lewis --  b43-fwcutter: successfully removed; broadcom-sta-source/common/firmware-b43-installer/bcmwl-kernel-source: unable to locate ---- dpkg says 'there's no installed pachage <PACKAGENAME>' --- i guess i dont have them. is it important to note i currently am running without my wireless physically? (only way to get not get kernel panic)
[05:15] <jmkokott> computer boot other OS?
[05:15] <ActionParsnip> Conradzz: what gpu do you use?
[05:16] <Conradzz> its an apu, c-60, hd 6x
[05:16] <ActionParsnip> menturi: use the link ubottu gave
[05:16] <Conradzz> the thing is, its been running fine for the past 3 days
[05:16] <lewis> menturi: <packagename> is where you put the packages name ;)
[05:16] <jmkokott> you can get to grub right?
[05:16] <Conradzz> until I updated then restarted
[05:16] <jmkokott> or some bootloader
[05:16] <Conradzz> yup
[05:16] <ActionParsnip> Conradzz: add the boot option: nomodeset
[05:16] <jmkokott> boot in single user mode
[05:17] <jmkokott> google that
[05:17] <menturi> lewis, i did put the package name not litterrally what i wrote hehe.
[05:17] <menturi> it says that for all 5
[05:17] <ActionParsnip> Conradzz: if you'd stated your issue instead of "Linux isn't for me", we can help.
[05:18] <MAIRutube> You just need to give Linux a chance :)
[05:18] <Conradzz> I had stated it earlier, its a ways up
[05:18] <Coded1> thanks the "nomodeset" kernel param got me through setup. Now on reboot grub is complaining that '/boot/grub2/i386-pc/normal.mod' is not found and drops me to a grub rescue shell.  Sounds like a UEFI thing.  Any ideas?
[05:18] <lewis__> aight ubuntu ppl im out #justlewisdotcom me on twitter peace
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[05:18] <FloodBot1> palaceofhate: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:20] <foobArrr> my ubuntu hangs at boot for two minutes with a message "Waiting for network configuration..."
[05:20] <ActionParsnip> Conradzz: then reask periodically. Emotional"boo hoo" tells new joiners nothing and does
[05:20] <ActionParsnip> Nothing
[05:21] <menturi> ActionParsnip / ubottu -- i tried to do what the link says, however my issue is it is not listed under the drivers (probably because the hardware is not currently connected). if i reconnec the hardware, however, i get a kernel panic, thus unable to as easily fix thu problem.
[05:22] <Conradzz> My bad, I wasn't saying it to get someone to help me, more so to make conversation...
[05:22] <ActionParsnip> foobArrr: how do you connect to the network? Is there a bug reported for your network chip?
[05:23] <ActionParsnip> Conradzz: this is pure support so the only conversation will be support based
[05:23] <sary> Conradzz: any progress ..
[05:23] <Conradzz> I looked up adding single user mode to grub
[05:23] <menturi> hm okay ima try to redo everything, but with hardware attached; and with only the main terminal thingy.
[05:23] <Conradzz> I guess the tutorial I got was a bit outdated, as I don't have a kernel line, but the one titled linux looks kind of like it
[05:23] <Conradzz> tried adding an S to it, and it didn't work, so I'll try adding Single
[05:24] <ActionParsnip> menturi: tried a different port (if possible)
[05:24] <menturi> thats good thinking ill try thy that ActionParsnip
[05:25] <ActionParsnip> Conradzz: hold SHIFT at boot and press E to (e)dit the boot. Remove: quiet splash    add: nomodeset
[05:26] <vp18> has anyone got conky
[05:27] <RupertPupkin> I've got cranky, but not conky.
[05:27] <sary> I see the chief is here :)
[05:27] <Conradzz> Well it started to boot into Single User Mode ActionParsnip, but it froze again
[05:28] <sary> Conradzz: excuse me buddy , i've lost connection , i have no idea where you left off.
[05:28] <Conradzz> well it started to boot into single user mode, but it froze once the mouse appeared
[05:30] <sary> I am lag or what!
[05:30] <jonny> so pidgen crashes
[05:30] <jonny> that kinda sucks
[05:32] <jonny> hello?
[05:34] <menturi> interesting... somehow it started without a panic :) now i need to get drivers working using the guide again :P
[05:35] <Bruce_Wayne> Is there anyway to know which process is using internet data at the point of time? I'm on Ubuntu 10.10 and sometimes, it automatically starts downloading something and uses some of my limited internet data.
[05:36] <indieross> how can i completely remove all shadows in compiz?
[05:36] <RupertPupkin> Bruce_Wayne, I think you can use Etherape to show that.
[05:37] <Conradzz> I'll leave the computer off for the night and see if it still does it tomorrow, night thanks for the help
[05:38] <Bruce_Wayne> RupertPupkin: Thanks. Let me check that out.
[05:39] <ryan_> i may be asking the wrong ppl, but is there a reason Ubuntu can mount "I"phones easily and Kubuntu doesn't see then at all?
[05:39] <TomatoKetchup> indieross, probably with CompizConfig Settings Manager
[05:39] <indieross> i know that muck
[05:39] <indieross> lol
[05:39] <ryan_> 12.04
[05:40] <indieross> i need to know what to put in shadow windows under windows decoration but i cant find any documentation on it
[05:41] <jonny> yo
[05:42] <TomatoKetchup> indieross, top post ... http://askubuntu.com/questions/37654/how-can-i-remove-window-shadows-in-unity
[05:43] <indieross> no good
[05:43] <indieross> saw that
[05:43] <jonny> ?
[05:44] <indieross> sup jonny
[05:44] <jonny> yellow
[05:44] <mitchell> is it possible to view dnsmasq's list of cached hosts?
[05:45] <TomatoKetchup> indieross, alright well that's all I've got :)  apparently compiz config won't do it because the theme overrides it.   best of luck
[05:46] <Hilikus> i'm updating my server and i'm beeing asked to choose between a config i modified or a new config from the distribution. how can i merge the new things of the new file without losing my own settings?
[05:46] <Hilikus> basically, how do i merge the files while installing
[05:47] <krababbel> Hilikus: i'd guess manually
[05:48] <jmkokott> hello
[05:48] <Coded1> I'm running Lubuntu 12.04 AMD64, I used the "nomodeset" command on the install and it worked now it must be using the same nouveau driver bringing a black screen and no access to virtual terminals.  Since there is no longer a grub menu how do I edit the kernel command line?
[05:49] <menturi> bah godda be kidding me still unlisted drivers.. ima take a break; ill return in about 40 min or so.
[05:49] <huppensuhn> if i want trim on a luks-encrypted ssd, do I need the discard option only in crypttab or also in fstab?
[05:49] <mitchell_> is it possible to view dnsmasq's list of cached hosts?  (I got disc'd so didn't see if my question got answered above)
[05:49] <ActionParsnip> Coded1: hold SHIFT at boot
[05:49] <Coded1> ActionParsnip: sweet
[05:56] <anathema_> hi guys i have an error in shutdown screen: could not write bytes broken pipe. and the splash screen of the shutdown procedure is broken (graphics) with false resolution etc
[05:59] <ActionParsnip> mitchell: forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=13600.0
[06:02] <ActionParsnip> anathema_: does the system boot ok afterwards?
[06:02] <anathema_> yeah
[06:02] <anathema_> with a delay but boots. its not only the gui problem is the error too ActionParsnip
[06:03] <ActionParsnip> anathema_: i wouldnt sweat it then, the system is about to poweroff. Report a bug if you want
[06:03] <huppensuhn> why does "apt-get install ddrescue" need to rebuild initrd?
[06:03] <anathema_> ActionParsnip, thanks. the main problem is that error. Is something important?
[06:03] <linuxjones> hello all, im having trouble installing ubuntu 12.04 on my hp laptop, im installing from a usb drive, and every time i get to the part where i pick where im installing it, i click install inside windows, and it crashes, restarts and runs me through it all again, anyone have any ideas why this is?
[06:04] <mitchell> ActionParsnip: thank you.  I found that link, but had trouble with it.  my syslog doensn't show hosts with that command.  have you had success with that?
[06:04] <ActionParsnip> anathema_: doubt it, system boots ok
[06:04] <anathema_> ActionParsnip, thanks!
[06:04] <ActionParsnip> mitchell: tried:  dnsmasq -q
[06:05] <`Korvin> I have a super janky ubuntu install
[06:05] <`Korvin> kde -> unity 11.10 -> 12.04
[06:05] <`Korvin> what is the best way to reinstall while keeping my settings and files
[06:06] <ActionParsnip> linuxjones: if you are installing inside windows using wubi, you can simply mount the MD5 tested ISO with magicdisk or similar. No need for removable storage
[06:07] <ActionParsnip> `Korvin: use your backups
[06:07] <mitchell> ActionParsnip: thanks, you were right, I didn't have the log enabled
[06:08] <`Korvin> ActionParsnip, I'm currently on the install in question
[06:08] <`Korvin> it works fine, just has some odd behaviors
[06:08] <`Korvin> what backup method do you recommend for this sort of thing
[06:08] <ActionParsnip> Mitchell:np dude. Dnsmasq makes life a little faster:-)
[06:09] <`Korvin> I was under the impression that I could copy /var over and it would copy all my settings
[06:09] <linuxjones> ActionParsnip, i tried that eariler today and it would crash on the loading screen, the mouse would move but i could sit there all day and nothing happened
[06:10] <ActionParsnip> `Korvin: just backup the hidden folders for the apps you want to retain settings for. They should be backed up just like your user data
[06:10] <mitchell> ActionParsnip: yep, me too! :)  and I'm really happy to see it's now it Precise! (but w/o caching)
[06:10] <`Korvin> yeah I guess
[06:11] <`Korvin> I'm pretty bad at foreseeing that sort of thing
[06:11] <ActionParsnip> linuxjones: i see. Did you MD5 test the ISO?
[06:11] <linuxjones> ActionParsnip, for the windows installer?
[06:11] <Coded1> has anyone had a chance to play with a Bulldozer CPU on *buntu ?  Any experiences?
[06:12] <mongo> Coded1: slow compaired to intel
[06:12] <ActionParsnip> linuxjones: oh you just grabbed the wubi executable?
[06:12] <mongo> A coworker bought several, they are very/ dense but slow
[06:12] <Coded1> my wallet says their great :)
[06:13] <ActionParsnip> They're
[06:13] <Coded1> ty
[06:13] <Coded1> they're great
[06:13] <linuxjones> ActionParsnip, yeah, trying it again now for good measure
[06:13] <dr_willis> 'a good value'  they mean
[06:13] <mongo> Coded1: great for density, but 2 years behind on speed
[06:14] <mongo> depends on what you are doing really though
[06:14] <dr_willis> dense and slow.. sounds like me somdasys
[06:14] <Coded1> I got the FX-6100 and it seems to work pretty nicely, just some VM's and web browsers
[06:14] <ActionParsnip> linuxjones: are you wanting to store the wubi file on the USB storage?
[06:14] <polardude> mongo: just jumped in… what's the topic?
[06:14] <mongo> polardude: bulldozer
[06:14] <aarcane> I heard ubuntu ditched iet for iscsi target mode for 12.04, but I don't remember what the new system is called.  What's the new system called, and/or where is a quick start guide ?
[06:15] <mongo> tgt
[06:15] <polardude> mongo: ah, gotcha
[06:15] <polardude> The new HUD mode looks pretty neat… how is everyone taking it?
[06:15] <lotuspsychje> is there any package that can encrypt media with password so Any Os can't read media?
[06:16] <dr_willis>  polardude  handy when i rember its there.
[06:16] <linuxjones> ActionParsnip, no, ive tried both ways, with the windows installer, and it crashed on the load screen, and and with the usb drive, and it got to the where to put it and rebooted itself
[06:16] <polardude> dr_willis: I would like to try that out when I have time to load it up on my desktop
[06:16] <dr_willis> polardude:  now  they  need to redo the apps so they got more mennnu item type settings,not stuff deep under  dialog/tabs
[06:17] <polardude> dr_willis: I thought that would exposed automatically
[06:17] <polardude> *be
[06:17] <dr_willis> finding a setting thats one out of 30 on a tab somewher.. is still a pain
[06:18] <mitchell> is there a way to maintain a file of hosts from dnsmasq's cache?  something that I could drop into /etc/hosts if my dns server dies?
[06:23] <huppensuhn> if i want trim on a luks-encrypted ssd, do I need the discard option only in crypttab or also in fstab?
[06:24] <bigal> Hi, when i restart my computer I loose the share settings on the mounted drives. How can I keep the share details afte a restart?
[06:25] <dr_willis> mount them via fstab, and set them up in smb.conf would be one way bigal
[06:27] <bigal> dr_willis I am a real noob at this and all I have is /etc/fstab.d as a directory which is empty.
[06:27] <dr_willis> bigal you are refering to shares your user sets up after they login? andthey have to first access the drive in question?
[06:29] <bigal> dr_willis not really when I start up the computer I have to mount the 2 additional drives everytime. I want to be able to just turn it on and the drives will mount up automatically so that they are visible to win7
[06:29] <dr_willis> bigal by mount you use the mount command? If  so add the proper entries  to  /etc/fstab to mount them where you want at boot time
[06:29] <bigal> also when I set the drives to share this also drops off after every restart
[06:30] <dr_willis> then you can edit your /etc/samba/smb.conf to permentlyy share the mounted filesystems.. all   will nbe ready at boot time. No need for any user to login
[06:30] <dr_willis> !mount
[06:30] <dr_willis> !fstab
[06:31] <bigal> do I have to create the file fstab?
[06:31] <dr_willis> look at /etc/fstab
[06:33] <bigal> dr_willis I only have fstab.d which is a empty directory
[06:33] <dr_willis> look aagain.. every system has a /etc/fstab file
[06:33] <dr_willis> it defines where your / and swap and other fs  are at
[06:37] <glioros> I setup cron to run every 30 minutes and it runs every 2-3 hours. any ideas?
[06:37] <methods> is there no system way to make lua5.1 show up as lua ?
[06:38] <glioros> this is my command 30	*	*	*	*	/usr/bin/php /var/www/vhosts/site.com/httpdocs/administrator/components/com_feedgator/cron.feedgator.php
[06:38] <methods> i mean via pkg-config
[06:42] <ServerCrash> which services will have problem if dbus daemon is stopped
[06:43] <hot_wheeelz> can anyone confirm if this is still the case or if it's been fixed please http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1847001
[06:43] <windwhinny> have 12.04 fixed the sleep bug on laptop?
[06:43] <dr_willis> most likely it depenmds on the laptop windwhinny
[06:44] <prayingprince> Hello! I'm trying to get the wireless working on my newly installed Ubuntu 12.04  I tried driver update and it is not working
[06:44] <windwhinny> dr_willis , I'm using eeepc 1215b
[06:45] <dr_willis> windwhinny:  check thst exact make/model on the forums and askubuntu.com
[06:45] <wilee-nilee> prayingprince, this command identify your wireless. lspci | grep -i wireless
[06:46] <prayingprince> ok, but I am no longer near an ethernet cord and am instead in my dorm. I had to load up via my win 7 parition.
[06:46] <prayingprince> after i do that what do i do?
[06:47] <wilee-nilee> prayingprince, really to be helped you have to tell us the card
[06:47] <prayingprince> ok i will come back when i can get ethernet again!
[06:47] <prayingprince> thank
[06:47] <wilee-nilee> prayingprince, cool
[06:47] <linuxjones> still freeses up on the loading screen
[06:49] <wilee-nilee> linuxjones, you still doing wubi or a install situation, or boot the iso?
[06:50] <linuxjones> wilee-nilee, wubi
[06:51] <wilee-nilee> linuxjones, so this freeze is after the load in windows then at the reboot?
[06:55] <Fudge> does anyone know how to enable accessibility in xubuntu by command line?
[07:06] <lotuspsychje> whats the best rss feed package for showing several feeds in notification area?
[07:06] <linuxjones> wilee-nilee, it does everything in windows, reboots, and at the ubuntu load screen it stops
[07:08] <cousin_luigi> good morning
[07:09] <cousin_luigi> Know of any update-notifier tool to use with gnome-fallback?
[07:10] <wilfredor> hi, My usb tv tunner is not working, I have a tvgo genius usb
[07:12] <krababbel> wilfredor: welcome to hell
[07:13] <cousin_luigi> Anything more reliable than indicator-updatemanager?
[07:14] <ST3EL> Hi, I'm running Ubuntu 12.04. My computer is randomly restarting has anyone else heard of or experienced this problem?
[07:15] <lotuspsychje> ST3EL:anything shows up in /var/log?
[07:16] <wilfredor> krababbel: thanks
[07:16] <wilfredor> I finded that but i cant understand http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/drivers/media/rc/keymaps/rc-genius-tvgo-a11mce.c
[07:17] <krababbel> wilfredor: look if there is a linux driver for it
[07:18] <ST3EL> lotuspsychje: I'm not exactly sure
[07:18] <wilfredor> krababbel: maybe http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/drivers/media/video/saa7134/
[07:18] <wilfredor> krababbel: how compile that and how run this module?
[07:19] <krababbel> wilfredor: you probabaly already have it, look at www.linuxtv.org
[07:20] <Orpheon> can someone help me get opengl 32-bit?
[07:20] <Orpheon> wine needs it, and can't recognize opengl
[07:20] <wilee-nilee> linuxjones, Honestly I'm not real familiar with wubi, you might try the Ubuntu Formus as well, help is just a little sparse in general for a wubi set up.
[07:20] <Orpheon> even though 63-bit opengl works
[07:20] <Orpheon> *64
[07:21] <Kyle6513> Howdy guys, anyone willing to help me get a USB scanner and sane working on an ubuntu server?
[07:22] <Kyle6513> I'm currently having problems getting the modules at all and I'm not entirely sure how to do it, i'm looking for usbfs and usbdevfs.
[07:23] <virpara> why sudo apt-get install does not ask for password, from which group i should remove member?
[07:24] <iceroot> virpara: because sudo is caching the last password for some time
[07:24] <alankila> Kyle6513: additional complication: usb devices do not necessarily have kernel modules
[07:24] <alankila> sure, there's *something* to expose the device to libusb, but after that it's all userspace
[07:25] <Kyle6513> alankila, I'm trying to follow this tutorial, http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Scanner-HOWTO/interfaces.html
[07:25] <Kyle6513> I know my scanner is supported by Sane, it has it's own drivers but it's not picking it up, so I'm assuming it's something between the hardware and sane somewhere.
[07:26] <lotuspsychje> kyle6513:vuescan has a linux version, it supports many scanner
[07:27] <Kyle6513> lotuspsychje, the main thing I want is the backend, I'm trying to setup a networked printer.
[07:27] <alankila> I wrote one userspace usb driver recently, it was an interesting exercise if nothing else
[07:27] <Kyle6513> alankila, I'm not entirely sure what you mean by the term userspace.
[07:28] <alankila> Kyle6513: as opposed to kernel.
[07:28] <arulmozhi> how cud I compile a linux device driver module. it seems the older examples won't compile on new kernel...
[07:29] <virpara> iceroot >> it does not ask even if i have just restarted
[07:29] <Kyle6513> alankila, if there are drivers for sane, that's all I essentially need. It's enabled in sane and yet I can't get it to work, I'm not entirely sure where along the line it's failing.
[07:29] <alankila> anyway my program is a java program that opens the usb device and talks its protocol directly to it. I was able to get it to work simultaneously on linux, os x and windows (although I have not tested it on linux)
[07:30] <iceroot> virpara: you edit the sudoers file? with something like NOPASSWORD?
[07:30] <virpara> iceroot >> nope
[07:30] <alankila> Kyle6513: well what scanner is it
[07:30] <virpara> iceroot >>  isn't it because of the group thing
[07:31] <Kyle6513> alankila, it's a multi-printer Canon MP150. http://www.sane-project.org/cgi-bin/driver.pl?manu=canon&model=mp150&bus=any&v=&p=
[07:31] <iceroot> virpara: normally its the group "admin" but that is still asking for a password
[07:31] <lotuspsychje> Kyle6513:did you install sane extras from synaptic?
[07:31] <alankila> Kyle6513: so you need pixma backend
[07:31] <iceroot> virpara: have a look with "id" about the groups
[07:31] <alankila> well, dunno, some links are ancient, like refer to dates in 2007
[07:32] <Kyle6513> lotuspsychje, the backends are included in the latest tarball.
[07:33] <Kyle6513> lotuspsychje, which I compiled myself first, then attempted to use the ubuntu repository.
[07:33] <lotuspsychje> oh
[07:33] <exalt> hello every time i boot from my harddisk is see "bootmanager missing press cntrl alt del to reboot" what is fastest way to fix ?
[07:34] <Kyle6513> Like I said earlier, it seems that it requires the two modules usbfs and usbdevfs to communicate with the scanner properly.
[07:34] <virpara> iceroot >> to list the groups i am member of?
[07:34] <Kyle6513> both of which aren't loaded or in the kernel at all, I've never compiled a kernel before myself and I'm still not entirely sure if I need to include it into the kernel.
[07:34] <virpara> how to iceroot
[07:35] <iceroot> virpara: id
[07:35] <arulmozhi> again how cud I compile a linux device driver module. it seems the older examples won't compile on new kernel... my kernel version is 3.2 rev 20
[07:35] <alankila> Kyle6513: based on this, you shouldn't need to do anything for this to work -- sane-pixma manpage promises that usb devices should be detected automatically.
[07:35] <virpara> iceroot >> 1003
[07:35] <alankila> Kyle6513: I assume if a program such as "lsusb" works, then canon-pixma is also able to see it
[07:36] <alankila> talk about usb filesystems may be dated -- I haven't personally paid attention how this stuff works for a long time
[07:36] <Kyle6513> alankila, yeah it's detected in lsusb, I just can't get it to detect, no matter what.
[07:36] <Kyle6513> it's even listed in the lsusb as a mp150 scanner, not a printer.
[07:36] <alankila> Kyle6513: well, I think these usbdevfs and stuff like that is long gone
[07:37] <Kyle6513> alankila, one thing I haven't tried is to reset the printer, I'll try that.
[07:38] <Kyle6513> alankila, still doesn't connect :/
[07:39] <xiangzhen> hey
[07:39] <xiangzhen> who is on?
[07:39] <alankila> Kyle6513: a quick scan of the source code indicates that sane-pixma driver is based on libusb
[07:40] <Kyle6513> alankila, so, it should work :I
[07:40] <alankila> so I guess you just haven't configured sane correctly or something. Maybe never told sane that you have a pixma-based scanner
[07:40] <alankila> I don't remember how you configure sane
[07:40] <xiangzhen> how can i remove the unity bar?
[07:40] <Kyle6513> xiangzhen, in login screen, drop down box > classic ubuntu
[07:40] <alankila> sane-find-scanner is supposedly the command, maybe it does something
[07:41] <Kyle6513> alankila, yeah that's what I
[07:41] <Kyle6513> alankila, have been using, but it returns nothing.
[07:42] <alankila> okay. just tried it against my own scanner and it says: found USB scanner (vendor=0x03f0 [HP], product=0x5611 [Photosmart C3100 series]) at libusb:001:005
[07:42] <alankila> tried to "sudo" the command yet?
[07:42] <alankila> like maybe it doesn't have the privilege for the userspace access to usb or something.
[07:43] <alankila> apparently the device files are /dev/bus/usb/<digits>/<digits> nowadays
[07:43] <Kyle6513> alankila, yeah I tried and still doesn't work
[07:44] <alankila> hm. Fair enough. I'm out of ideas, then.
[07:45] <Kyle6513> alankila, perhaps it doesn't know about the change of dev locations, I might be able to make a temporary system link to /proc/bus/usb ?
[07:45] <whoamii> i got this problem
[07:45] <alankila> Kyle6513: nah, that's almost certainly not it
[07:45] <alankila> Kyle6513: lsusb uses libusb, sane uses libusb. They know where the files are. Use strace -e open to prove it, if you want
[07:45] <whoamii> when i startup my ubuntu the whole windows turn back to those windows95 theme ?
[07:45] <alankila> you should see sane-find-scanner open ton of usb files
[07:46] <bouma> im trying to repair grub with a system drive with both ubuntu1204 and win7, after installing win7 it has installed its own bootloader. how can i rebuild the grub menu with the livecd?
[07:46] <Kyle6513> actually alankila
[07:46] <Kyle6513> alankila, it never opens any usb devices
[07:47] <alankila> really? Well, that's funny.
[07:47] <Kyle6513> alankila, nevermind, it does. I missed the one line.
[07:47] <Kyle6513> alankila, it looks in /dev/usb though, not /dev/bus/usb
[07:47] <alankila> Kyle6513: and ... well, is /dev/usb a valid place to look for them
[07:49] <Kyle6513> alankila, uh, well, the only file in /dev/usb/ is a file named 1p0, it's yellow in terminal.
[07:49] <alankila> mine never look into /dev/usb
[07:49] <Kyle6513> alankila, where does yours look?
[07:49] <alankila> no such file or directory
[07:49] <alankila> I guess we aren't on same version of ubuntu server maybe.
[07:49] <Kyle6513> alankila, running 10.04.
[07:50] <alankila> yeh, 12.04
[07:50] <Kyle6513> so I take it I'll have to update?
[07:50] <alankila> anyway it might still be alright -- although now there's the added complexity of discovering if the pixma driver supported your scanner around 2010
[07:51] <Kyle6513> alankila, it was first supported in 2009.
[07:51] <arulmozhi> again how cud I compile a linux device driver module. it seems the older examples won't compile on new kernel... my kernel version is 3.2 rev 20... how to include and what are  the  headers required
[07:51] <Kyle6513> alankila, http://mp610.blogspot.com.au/
[07:51] <alankila> Kyle6513: that cuts it uncomfortably close
[07:51] <Kyle6513> alankila, actually nevermind, that was the wrong post.
[07:53] <bouma> when i try grub-install /dev/sda i get  error: cannot find a device for /boot/grub (is /dev mounted?).
[07:53] <bouma> im not sure why
[07:54] <alankila> arulmozhi: typically you have to do the investigative work to port it, or look for a person who already did that work. That's just how it is. If nobody has done it, and the device you need driver for is popular, chances are there's some new solution which everybody else flocked to
[07:54] <Kyle6513> bouma, are you running as root?
[07:55] <bouma> Kyle6513: that is with sudo grub-install /dev/sda, from a livecd
[07:55] <Kyle6513> hmm
[07:55] <Kyle6513> well, I was just throwing that out there, I'm not too knowledgable.
[07:55] <krababbel> bouma: tried 'purge and reinstall grub 2' thread in ubuntu forums?
[07:56] <alankila> I once wrote a linux kernel driver for a piece of hardware which I had and I don't think it ever worked across more than 1 or 2 minor revisions without needing patching
[07:56] <alankila> the kernel internals are crazy unstable
[07:56] <bouma> there is some issue with the chroot in the livecd, from what i can tell it is an intermitent bug, but it surprising it would exisit with 1204
[07:56] <alankila> they move headers, remove arguments, change types, rename defines, barf.
[07:58] <arulmozhi> alankila: I don get it. I'm designing an instrument and I need to write my own driver for it. I just need the generic structure of driver code i.e a skull that I cud use for my driver that compiles in new linux version. from wat u said how do I port it. I'm just sarting with driver development. I read LDD book. but samples don't compile
[07:58] <bouma> i dont have a separate boot partition
[07:59] <alankila> arulmozhi: I was fortunate to have someone else's working driver as base when I did it.
[07:59] <bouma> i almost want to just reinstall over the top of the current install
[07:59] <bouma> will this break things?
[07:59] <bouma> there isnt much on /home
[08:00] <alankila> bouma: your old fs will be formatted over most likely
[08:00] <Kyle6513> alankila, http://support-au.canon.com.au/contents/AU/EN/0100303302.html would that be of any help to me?
[08:00] <isabel> hi, my internal mic is not working after a  12.04 install, please help :-[
[08:01] <alankila> Kyle6513: not a psychic, don't know
[08:01] <alankila> all I see is ton of legalese
[08:01] <arulmozhi> alankila: any idea how to port it??
[08:01] <Kyle6513> alankila, it's basically canon's released source for their scanning drivers
[08:01] <alankila> arulmozhi: not really. I guess you just do it :-p
[08:02] <isabel> hi, my internal mic is not working after a  12.04 install, please help :-[
[08:03] <arulmozhi> alankila: thanx for ur time :)
[08:03] <alankila> Kyle6513: I dunno. If it covers the MP 150 you have then maybe there's some use to be had from it. But I don't think manufacturer drivers are any good for long
[08:03] <bouma> alankila: thats the idea
[08:03] <alankila> linux just changes too fast for them to work for longer than like half a year
[08:04] <Kyle6513> alankila, alright, I'll just try and follow an old guide x.x
[08:04] <Mischinka> command line, how do i zip multiple files into one zip archive? zip -r zipfile.zip /directory/
[08:04] <bouma> alankila: i cant figure out how to just get grub-install /dev/sda to run
[08:04] <alankila> bouma: the sda is your harddisk? has filesystems on it? one of them contains /boot?
[08:05] <alankila> anyway I normally mount /dev/sda1 /somewhere, then chroot, then mount /dev, /sys and /proc, then run grub-install /dev/sda, then reverse my steps
[08:05] <krababbel> bouma: got the same error once, i think i just reinstalled, but erased all
[08:05] <bouma> alankila: there is no boot, just one linux partition sda1, and sd2 is the win7 boot partition, sd3 win7system
[08:06] <alankila> bouma: right so /dev/sda1 contains the directory called /boot/grub then.
[08:06] <bouma> hmm perhaps if i change the active partion to sda1 it will just work
[08:06] <bouma> alankila: yes
[08:07] <alankila> bouma: so mount it, chroot to it, then mount /sys, /proc and /dev, then try grub-install
[08:07] <bouma> alankila: sigh i thought i could just run grub-install /dev/sda from the term on a livecd
[08:08] <alankila> bouma: not sure if that should work. It is conceivable it could.
[08:08] <bouma> im first trying my changing sda2 active to sda1
[08:08] <alankila> but as far as I remember it never has worked.
[08:08] <bouma> which win7 installer seemed to change
[08:08] <alankila> so the problem is you boot directly to windows... grub should have been installed on the mbr, and I imagine win7 overwrote that
[08:09] <bouma> alankila: really... im sure ive used it before i thought it just scanned the drive and regenerated a whole boot menu with every detected kernel, rescue modes and entries for all detected operating systems
[08:09] <alankila> bouma: that is update-grub
[08:09] <alankila> it just generates the grub config
[08:09] <alankila> if you lost capability to boot into grub the first place, then you need to actually reinstall it
[08:10] <bouma> alankila: ok, well update-grub /dev/sda doesnt work either it gives, /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?).
[08:10] <alankila> I never install two operating systems on the same drive myself
[08:10] <bouma> (thats sudo update-grub /dev/sda)
[08:10] <bouma> well i only have one ssd
[08:10] <wilee-nilee> !bootinfo | bouma
[08:11] <alankila> I don't think update-grub actually cares for any arguments like /dev/sda
[08:12] <auronandace> it doesn't
[08:12] <daniele> ciao a tutti
[08:12] <SolarisBoy> nopes
[08:12] <daniele> !list
[08:13] <wilee-nilee> bouma, update-grub on the live cd only works with a chroot if that is where you are running it.
[08:14] <alankila> as I said, mount it, chroot to it, mount the requisite pseudofilesystems, then use grub commands...
[08:15] <bouma> wilee-nilee: yes i am running it from a livecd. so i have to chroot to the "system itself" .?
[08:16] <ankit> http://askubuntu.com/questions/139209/my-gnome-session-not-working-properly-see-the-image
[08:16] <ankit> help me on this
[08:17] <wilee-nilee> bouma, if you want to install grub yeah, here is chroot link if needed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#ChRoot
[08:17] <ankit> http://askubuntu.com/questions/139209/my-gnome-session-not-working-properly-see-the-image
[08:17] <TomatoKetchup> bouma, if you want to reinstall grub, you can use boot-repair
[08:17] <TomatoKetchup> (didn't really catch what exactly you were trying to do)
[08:17] <sudipta> how to free the swap space from command line?
[08:18] <ankit> any one.. help me.. http://askubuntu.com/questions/139209/my-gnome-session-not-working-properly-see-the-image
[08:18] <alankila> sudipta: swapoff?
[08:18] <agnello> is there any software where i  create mockups ..
[08:18] <auronandace> sudipta: man swapoff
[08:19] <ankit> any one
[08:20] <ankit> http://askubuntu.com/questions/139209/my-gnome-session-not-working-properly-see-the-image
[08:20] <bohemian9485> !info swapoff | sudipta
[08:20] <Ofortuna> Install"n 12.04 LTS on a win xp system. I hav burn'd and veri'd the cd. When i boot from the cd install seems to go fine and the wait dots are visible. Then screen goes blank. I am sure that its video related. I am using the onboard video thats a bit older and capable of 1280x1024 however my monitor is a 1680x1050. What can I do during boot up and install to correct? tnx 4 Ur time.
[08:20] <auronandace> bohemian9485: its a command, not a package
[08:21] <alankila> hmmm... linux huge page support is so disappointing. I left yesterday with 5 GB of memory allocated as huge pages, after backup run it's 72 MB
[08:21] <alankila> a little bit of memory pressure apparently broke it
[08:21] <alankila> maybe I have to just do explicit huge pages and not even try with these transparent ones
[08:21] <ankit> http://askubuntu.com/questions/139209/my-gnome-session-not-working-properly-see-the-image
[08:21] <Ofortuna> If any1 is familiar with my install problem feel free to prvt msg me please and tnx again 4 Ur time.
[08:21] <Ofortuna> :)
[08:21] <linuxuz3r> ankit, i saw it
[08:21] <thomaspr> Die folgenden Pakete sind zurückgehalten worden:
[08:21] <thomaspr>   firefox firefox-globalmenu linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic
[08:22] <thomaspr> Why ?
[08:22] <iceroot> thomaspr: used dist-upgrade instead of upgrade?
[08:22] <thomaspr> linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic is held back ???
[08:22] <ankit> so.. how to solve it linuxuz3r
[08:22] <thomaspr> no, it's apt-get upgrade
[08:23] <iceroot> thomaspr: use dist-upgrade instead
[08:23] <linuxuz3r> ankit did you try what suggested on the message board
[08:23] <thomaspr> Don't want to leave Natty ...
[08:23] <iceroot> thomaspr: dist-uppgrade does not mean to change ubuntu version
[08:23] <ankit> yup.. every single instruction linuxuz3r
[08:23] <auronandace> !dist-upgrade | thomaspr
[08:24] <bouma> ok when i made sda1 active it came up with Os not found.
[08:24] <iceroot> thomaspr: short explenetation, uograde is only upgrading packages itself, dist-upgrade is also upgrading dependencies or installing new packages which are coming from dependencies
[08:24] <dr_willis> i tend to do a upgrade normally then a dist-upgrade onccce a month or so..checking what its going to update
[08:25] <iceroot> thomaspr: for more details see "man apt-get" but dist-upgrade is exactly what you want
[08:25] <dr_willis> when beta testing the beta. id dist-upgrade every day
[08:25] <thomaspr> Not sure ...
[08:25] <thomaspr> Thought I did that on another machine
[08:25] <votproductions> rtfm
[08:25] <iceroot> thomaspr: if you dont trust me, why asking in this channel?
[08:25] <iceroot> votproductions: no need that here
[08:25] <thomaspr> and it had a new version of adobe flash installed
[08:26] <iceroot> thomaspr: use "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -s" it will just simulate the case
[08:26] <thomaspr> which CRASHED with midori !
[08:26] <DarwinSurvivor> ankit: in the comments for your question, you said you "installed it and re-installed it" which package did you re-install? The "gnome" one or the "gnome shell" one?
[08:26] <thomaspr> and downgrading to a useable version deinstallled firefox ???
[08:27] <thomaspr> That was not, what I wanted !
[08:27] <Intrepd> my windows computer's battery died today and i was stuck with a computer that only had linux and i couldn't even do simple thing like use vncviewer
[08:27] <DarwinSurvivor> ankit: also, do you want "gnome classic" like in the tutorial, or "gnome-shell" with all the fancy stuff?
[08:28] <DarwinSurvivor> Intrepd: do you have a support question?
[08:28] <Ofortuna> i dooo
[08:29] <Ofortuna> Install"n 12.04 LTS on a win xp system. I hav burn'd and veri'd the cd. When i boot from the cd install seems to go fine and the wait dots are visible. Then screen goes blank. I am sure that its video related. I am using the onboard video thats a bit older and capable of 1280x1024 however my monitor is a 1680x1050. What can I do during boot up and install to correct? tnx 4 Ur time.
[08:29] <dr_willis> downgradeing?
[08:29] <Intrepd> Darwin4Ever why is it so hard to use vncviewer in ubuntu
[08:29] <ankit> darwin.... i have classic perfectly okay working... problem with gnome desktop session
[08:30] <DarwinSurvivor> Intrepd: it's no hard, I used to use it all the time, what issue were you having with it (wouldn't open, too complicated, etc)?
[08:30] <Ofortuna> where u ask'n me dr_willis?
[08:30] <Intrepd> darwinsurvivor where do i download the vncviewer.exe
[08:30] <votproductions> You don't...
[08:30] <dr_willis> !nomodeset | Ofortuna
[08:31] <DarwinSurvivor> ankit: so you want the fancy shell stuff like this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALCUPp-5UwE
[08:31] <dr_willis> Intrepd:  most any vnc viewer should work with any vncclient. for windows i tend to use Ultravnc, or tigervnc
[08:31] <dontknow> i want to create ubuntu usb stick on arch, in ubuntu i achieved creating arch usb stick with "dd if=archlinux-XXX.iso of=/dev/sdX" , can i create ubuntu usb whit this command in arch?
[08:31] <ankit> darwin in uninstalled and resinstalled the gnome.. and when i got forward to uninstall gnome shell also.. but it was uninstalled already..
[08:31] <dr_willis> dontknow:  yes. dd will work the same.
[08:31] <votproductions> dontknow: Yes it will work
[08:31] <Ofortuna> ya thats what i was gathering in my search also. Just looking to get thru it.
[08:31] <thomaspr> Remv flashplugin-nonfree [10.2.159.1ubuntu1]
[08:31] <thomaspr> Remv flashplugin-installer [10.2.159.1ubuntu1]
[08:31] <thomaspr> Inst linux-image-2.6.38-15-generic (2.6.38-15.59 Ubuntu:11.04/natty-updates [i386])
[08:31] <dontknow> dr_willis, votproductions  thanks
[08:31] <Ofortuna> !nomodeset
[08:31] <thomaspr> Inst firefox-globalmenu [11.0+build1-0ubuntu0.11.04.1] (12.0+build1-0ubuntu0.11.04.1 Ubuntu:11.04/natty-updates [i386]) []
[08:31] <DarwinSurvivor> Intrepd: ubuntu does not use exe installers, please open the "software center" and search for "vncviewer" then click "install"
[08:31] <FloodBot1> thomaspr: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:31] <thomaspr> Inst firefox [11.0+build1-0ubuntu0.11.04.1] (12.0+build1-0ubuntu0.11.04.1 Ubuntu:11.04/natty-updates [i386])
[08:31] <thomaspr> Inst firefox-locale-de [11.0+build1-0ubuntu0.11.04.1] (12.0+build1-0ubuntu0.11.04.1 Ubuntu:11.04/natty-updates [i386])
[08:32] <DarwinSurvivor> ankit: you were supposed to uninstall gnome (not really necessary though) and then install gnome shell
[08:33] <Ofortuna> tnx dr_willis loki at page now
[08:33] <DarwinSurvivor> ankit: can you use http://paste.ubuntu.com and copy/paste the output of "dpkg -l | grep gnome"?
[08:33] <dr_willis> with the newer releases of ubuntu  i dont have to use Nomodeset  any more on my nvidia systems. ;)
[08:34] <Ofortuna> ya they did a good job on the install files
[08:35] <Ofortuna> for it to be able to install on such a wide range of systems is amazing
[08:35] <Ofortuna> but since we still build em I guess we end up here lol
[08:35] <ankit> i was asked to uninstall gnome and gnome shell..i unstalled gnome desktop environment first,when i got forward to uninstall gnome shell.. it was already uninstalled.. then i restarted my sys.. installed gnome D.E. again.. and faced the same prob
[08:35] <ome> I have X11 installed, obviously, but I can't seem to have the Mouse(4) man page.
[08:36] <ome> what package should I install ?
[08:37] <Ofortuna> well I bet u are good at writing shell scripts and thats where my learning curve is taking me so as soon as I get by this nomodeset peramiter issue I'll prolly be here alot more.
[08:38] <DarwinSurvivor> ankit: that's because you are back to where you started. you uninstalled both but were only supposed to uninstall gnome. you were supposed to *install* gnome shell
[08:38] <Ofortuna> Not good for a recovering IRC addict lol
[08:38] <Taddle> I never got the end of my answer yesterday. I can't make mysql work
[08:38] <DarwinSurvivor> ankit: if you just open software center, find "gnome shell" and install it, it should resolve your problem :)
[08:39] <ankit> okay darwin..
[08:39] <DarwinSurvivor> Taddle: if you are continuing a previous issue, please re-post the issue as the person that was helping you probably isn't here right now and may have forgotten what the issue was by now anyways
[08:39] <Taddle> Yeah, I know
[08:39] <ankit> i will now uninstall gnome d.e. and install only gnome shell.. thats right naa
[08:39] <dr_willis> im lucky to rember an issue posted 5 min ago....
[08:39] <Taddle> I was just re-running all the commands he told me yesterday so I can give you the failing output
[08:40] <linuxuz3r> hey guys we need 3d acceleration for gnomeshell right?
[08:42] <DarwinSurvivor> linuxuz3r: only if you want it to be fast :P
[08:42] <Taddle> (I think) I've fixed it. MySql wasn't starting and couldn't do any testing because of the socket not connecting, but I think I was running the xampp mysql server
[08:42] <votproductions> linuxuz3r: Not for a Pentium 4
[08:42] <linuxuz3r> ankit has p4
[08:42] <DarwinSurvivor> Taddle: ah, running 2 mysql servers would *definitely* cause issues.
[08:42] <Taddle> yeah...
[08:42] <linuxuz3r> and his gnome-shell is not working properly
[08:42] <Taddle> Especially as they were running on the same port
[08:43] <Taddle> ohhh, that's no good
[08:43] <Ofortuna> thats why we write shell scripts so we don't hav to remember
[08:43] <DarwinSurvivor> Taddle: out of curiosity, why are you using xampp? ubuntu has all those packages right in the repos...
[08:43] <Ofortuna> :)
[08:43] <Taddle> I know, it was quick and easy when my hosting ran out
[08:43] <Taddle> I've moved everything other now
[08:44] <Taddle> I just need to figure out the mysql mystery and find out how to setup my startssl cert
[08:44] <Taddle> Something in my shell is hanging
[08:44] <DarwinSurvivor> Taddle: sounds good. xampp is basically only a good idea on windows where installing everything 1 at a time is a PITA. ubuntu users just run a single apt-get :D
[08:44] <Taddle> Yeah
[08:44] <DarwinSurvivor> Taddle: what do you mean by "hanging"?
[08:45] <Taddle> Lemme show you....
[08:45] <root_> hi
[08:46] <Taddle> DarwinSurvivor, http://paste.ubuntu.com/995497/
[08:46] <Taddle> I haven't had chance to run another command since then...
[08:46] <ikonia> Taddle: why do you even have /opt/lampp
[08:46] <Taddle> From my xampp server
[08:47] <ikonia> Taddle: why do you have xammp
[08:47] <Taddle> I no longer use it though
[08:47] <ikonia> and there is nothing wrong with that shell output
[08:47] <dontknow> are you experiencing instantenaous cpu speak when open a software?
[08:47] <dontknow> someone
[08:47] <ikonia> Taddle: that looks like mysql has started fine
[08:47] <isabel> hi, my mic does not work on 12.04 with the sound recorder, please help, when playing back a recording al you hear is static, please hel
[08:47] <ikonia> Taddle: that is also not how you start mysql
[08:48] <isabel> hi, my mic does not work on 12.04 with the sound recorder, please help, when playing back a recording al you hear is static, please help
[08:48] <Taddle> How do you start mysql? I've always been a sysadmin on windows servers and cpanel managed server
[08:48] <ikonia> Taddle: you need to hire a linux guy if this is going to be on the public internet
[08:48] <Taddle> I no longer have the luxury of cpanel, as I left the company
[08:48] <ikonia> Taddle: https://help.ubuntu.com look in the server section
[08:48] <Taddle> ikonia, I'm 12?
[08:48] <Shanth> one great problem , my screen resolution is gone wrong to 720x400, but my actual resolution is 1024x768..how roll back this change..
[08:49] <Mikey^> isabel: choose the mic you want in multimedia selector
[08:49] <Taddle> I volunteer for companies to manage their webhosting
[08:49] <ome> Why the X11 mouse(4) man pages isn't shipped even with libx11-dev ? and where can I get it ?
[08:49] <ikonia> Taddle:
[08:49] <ikonia> Taddle: then you shouldn't be doing that, you are putting the companies at risk
[08:49] <ikonia> Taddle: https://help.ubuntu.com - server section, you'll need to do a lot of reading
[08:49] <Mikey^> Shanth: Open the display settings and set your screen resolution and also set it as default
[08:50] <Shanth> in display setting my resolution 1024x768 is not displayed
[08:50] <isabel> Mikey^: where would i find the multimedia selector?
[08:51] <Taddle> I've never managed an Ubuntu server. The companies are not at risk, I've always worked with an older person (15) who knows everything, I was just a "maintanence admin"
[08:51] <Mikey^> isabel: search for multimedia in the search bar
[08:51] <ikonia> Taddle: the companies are at risk
[08:51] <ikonia> Taddle: if you have zero idea how to manage a linux server and you are running a companies web site - that is an unacceptable risk
[08:51] <DarwinSurvivor> Taddle: ikonia is right, linux starts and stops services VERY differently than windows, there are also lots of other differences (particularly case-sensitivity and file permission) differences that are VERY important to understand
[08:51] <ikonia> Taddle: read https://help.ubuntu.com
[08:51] <Taddle> I do not have 0 knowledge
[08:51] <ikonia> Taddle: you do, as you can't start a basic service
[08:52] <ikonia> Taddle: that is an unacceptable risk
[08:52] <Taddle> That is started with the cpanel on every server I've worked on?
[08:52] <ikonia> Taddle: then you have no knowledge of what cpannel is doing for you
[08:52] <Mikey^> Shanth: Is this a laptop or desktop?
[08:52] <ikonia> Taddle: you have just started a service as root on the public interent, that is not good
[08:52] <isabel> Mikey^: sorry no result for multimedia in the searchbar
[08:52] <Mikey^> isabel: display?
[08:52] <ikonia> Taddle: I suggest talking to the older/experienced person in the company and asking him to walk you thorugh it
[08:53] <Mikey^> isabel: open the sound mixer then
[08:53] <Taddle> I'm sorry, but I thought this was a support channel, not a nag at a 12 year old for learning
[08:53] <ikonia> Taddle: it is a supporting channel
[08:53] <ikonia> Taddle: learning on a busineses website is not something I'd suggest doing
[08:53] <Taddle> This server is my homeserver, the one I use for my game that I'm developing. Not the companies
[08:53] <Taddle> I'm not learning on the business website
[08:53] <ikonia> Taddle: you said a minute ago it was for the companies
[08:53] <ikonia> Taddle: ok, so that's less concerning
[08:54] <isabel> Mikey^: i have gnome-alsamixer installed is that ok?
[08:54] <ikonia> Taddle: again https://help.ubuntu.com - the server section
[08:54] <Taddle> *facepalm*
[08:54] <Taddle> Thanks, I'll read it
[08:54] <Mikey^> isabel: double click on the volume icon in the panel on the top
[08:54] <dr_willis> reading is good
[08:55] <Mikey^> isabel: and then go to recording
[08:55] <DarwinSurvivor> Taddle: as some one who has been in your shoes years ago (came from xampp, went to linux). The best thing you can do is set up an ubuntu-server machine (old PIII or something simple) and forget EVERYTHING you knew about windows servers (PHP is basically the same though).
[08:55] <Taddle> And for the record, all the business servers I've worked on, have been supported by a bigger company. The companies were not for profits
[08:55] <kris021> Hi I would like some help with some password change/recovery type situation please
[08:55] <isabel> Mikey^: There is only a input tab no recording?
[08:55] <ikonia> Taddle: just because they are non-proffit companies doesn't make it acceptable
[08:55] <Mikey^> isabel: yeah, ok
[08:55] <ikonia> Taddle: in some ways it makes it worse as they don't have money to waste
[08:55] <Taddle> They weren't wasting money?
[08:56] <Mikey^> isabel: check that its unmuted and volume is up
[08:56] <isabel> Mikey^: ok, i am there
[08:56] <Taddle> Everything was donated to them
[08:56] <DarwinSurvivor> Taddle: get that server up and running with a small site using mysql and keep it updating and running for a month solid. at that point, start looking at iptables. once you have that figured out (and get someone on a support channel to look over it with you), then consider forwarding a few ports (http, ssh) from the router
[08:56] <ikonia> Taddle: they are wasting money/time if they have to fix your learning mistakes
[08:56] <DarwinSurvivor> Taddle: also, *always* use ssh (ftp is insecure) and *always* use public/private keys. turn off password login completely (help.ubuntu.com will tell you how)
[08:57] <Taddle> DarwinSurvivor, thanks. I've been through this before, I was just having problems recently
[08:57] <isabel> Mikey^: Mic is not muted, for internal mic and normal mic
[08:57] <Taddle> ikonia, the people who donate fix things for free
[08:57] <ikonia> Taddle: that is still their time/money/effort they are wasting
[08:57] <ikonia> anyway, I digress
[08:57] <Mikey^> isabel: you need to choose which mic you want to use
[08:57] <ikonia> Taddle: I've given you the URL to read, good luck with understanding/absorbing it
[08:57] <isabel> Mikey^:ok
[08:58] <kris021> I couldn't seem to log in to my original Admin account, so I created another under the Guest account, deleted the original and never the new one a password. Now I don't have any type of root access to try again. Is there some type of default password?
[08:58] <Mikey^> isabel: do you see a capture tab?
[08:58] <DarwinSurvivor> Taddle: I'm not joking about the "forget everything you knew" part. follow *every* step for setting up each service (apach, mysql, ssh, etc) from the guide. if something seems strange, ask a linux admin about it
[08:58] <ikonia> kris021: no, nothing default
[08:58] <Taddle> what was wrong with how I started mysql anyways? It works?
[08:58] <isabel> Mikey^: no there is no capture tab
[08:58] <kris021> So I'm screwed?
[08:59] <ikonia> Taddle: you've launched the daemon directly as root, you've not put any shell job control in (not using an init script)
[08:59] <Mikey^> isabel: choose preferences and then select all the checkboxes
[08:59] <Taddle> What makes that a problem? (This is for my learning btw)
[08:59] <isabel> Mikey^: just output, input, Sound effects,Applications tabs
[08:59] <ikonia> Taddle: research it
[09:00] <Taddle> Meh, or I could ask one my friends at Mozilla IT
[09:00] <ikonia> Taddle: sure, ask them, that's research too
[09:00] <kris021> ikonia: So what do you think would be the best course of action?
[09:00] <DarwinSurvivor> Taddle: linux is designed to be modularly secure, if 1 piece is attacked/penetrated, the rest should remain secure. by running mysql as root, if someone were to hack the mysql daemon (via sql injection, or what-ever), they could potentially take complete control of the *entire* system
[09:00] <isabel> Mikey^: sorry, where is the preferences?
[09:00] <ikonia> kris021: depends on a lot of things
[09:00] <dr_willis> often 10 min of readinv is worth 10 HRS on irc
[09:00] <ikonia> kris021: is there anything of value on this machine currently ?
[09:01] <Taddle> Thanks, DarwinSurvivor
[09:01] <kris021> ikonia: Nah, pretty much clean. Most of my things are online. Clean install then?
[09:01] <Mikey^> isabel: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AudioCapture
[09:01] <DarwinSurvivor> Taddle: come back if you have any questions regarding help.ubuntu.com
[09:01] <ikonia> kris021: just re-install then, that's the quicker/easier less hassle approach, make note of the new password and you're fine
[09:02] <isabel> Mikey^: ok, thanks i will have look, thanks
[09:02] <kris021> ikonia: Well it wasn't that I don't know the new password, it's that I never assigned it to the new account before trying to log in to it, only to realize that it doesn't have one
[09:02] <Mikey^> kris021: just a sec, If I understand you lost your password?
[09:03] <kris021> 0
[09:04] <Mikey^> kris021: boot into recovery mode and you will be dropped to a shell. there you can set a passowrd if you know the username
[09:04] <kris021> Mikey^: I had some issues logging in to my original account, so under the Guest account I created a new account, deleted the old account, and never assigned the new account a password before trying to log in to it.
[09:04] <hansonforensics> Hi All - Can anyone help with an asoundrc file? For Alsa.
[09:05] <kris021> Mikey^: I've tried that. It wouldn't allow me. I got an error: Authentication manipulation error
[09:05] <dr_willis> i find it oddd thsst the guest account could make a new account...
[09:05] <hansonforensics> Or anyone know the best way to set up a virtual sound card?
[09:05] <Mikey^> kris021: doesnt it drop you to a root shell?
[09:06] <kris021> Mikey^: Yes
[09:06] <Mikey^> kris021: and you did, passwd username
[09:06] <dr_willis> hansonforensics:  how about you give the channel details of what you are wanting to do
[09:06] <kris021> Mikey^: Yes, and I received the error stated above
[09:06] <Mikey^> strange
[09:06] <hansonforensics> Ah, yes that would be more helpful, sorry. :)
[09:06] <kris021> I believe it may have something to do with the fact that the account has no password at all
[09:06] <dr_willis> perhaps make a new user..  and rember to add them to the admin group
[09:07] <Mikey^> kris021: how did you make a new user from a guest account?
[09:07] <kris021> dr_willis: It is an Admin, with no password
[09:07] <dr_willis> so make another one...
[09:07] <hansonforensics> I'm using a DJ program called Mixxx, I need to send my main channel & monitor channel through my headphones which are USB ones. I think the best way to do it is by using asoundrc but can't get it to work.
[09:07] <ome> What module should I reload for the for the xorg synaptics configuration to get updated ?
[09:07] <kris021> Mikey^: You go to the User Account setting and unlock it, using the original root password, and procede from there.
[09:08] <Mikey^> kris021: I know, but you said you had trouble logging in to your orginal account
[09:08] <bohemian9485> kris021: you mean the guest account you are using has admin privelege?
[09:08] <kris021> dr_willis: I can't because the original Admin account was deleted due to inaccessibility and I can't unlock the User Account settings because the new and only Admin user has no password
[09:09] <dr_willis> kris021 from the recovery/root terminal you can easially add a new user.
[09:09] <kris021> Mikey^: Yes, I wasn't logged in, just using its root priveleges
[09:10] <kris021> bohemian9485: It doesn't have admin priveleges any more because the only admin account with root access has no password, therefore no way for me to utilize them. Although, the original, which is now gone, did.
[09:11] <kris021> dr_willis: I've tried that. Got the error: Authentication manipulation error
[09:12] <dr_willis> sounds to me like you got deeper issues.
[09:12] <dr_willis> sanest thing to do is just do a reinstall if this is a new install
[09:14] <kris021> dr_willis: Deeper issues like what? And that's probably what I'm going to do. It was just a hassle originally because it was from Wubi, then converted to a legit dual boot
[09:14] <dr_willis> kris021:  i cant imagine why root cant make a new user.  and i realluy cant understand how the guest user can unlock stuff.
[09:14] <Mikey^> I think he is just saying stuff
[09:14] <dr_willis> if the guest user can unlock the user tool. try making a new user i guess..
[09:15] <dr_willis> but i wouldent trust the system at all..
[09:16] <bohemian9485> i remember when i lost the root password for my backtrack os, and i used ubuntu 11.10 live usb to edit the shadow file and set the password to zero string
[09:17] <dr_willis> bohemian9485:  yep. thats doable.. but  the errors mentioned. i wonder if eventhin it would work. hard to tell
[09:17] <Mikey^> bohemian9485: but kris021 cant because he doesnt know the password so he cant use sudo
[09:17] <dr_willis> if he logs in as root via the recovery console - he is root allready. no sudo needed
[09:17] <kris021> dr_willis: I would, but I can
[09:17] <Mikey^> dr_willis: yes then he gets some manipulation error
[09:18] <kris021> 't unlock it because there is no password
[09:18] <dr_willis> kris021:  unlock? we are not refering to using the GUI tools...
[09:18] <bohemian9485> maybe the user account does not have sudo privelege?
[09:18] <dr_willis> manipulation error - imples to me thast some of the security files are messed up.
[09:19] <kris021> dr_willis: I was referring to your statement directed to me specifically earlier
[09:19] <bohemian9485> same conclusion here
[09:19] <dr_willis> i could have had the system reinstalled by now... ;)
[09:19] <dr_willis> But the servers seem slow for updates . not sure whats going on
[09:20] <kris021> So could I, if I had a boot disk.
[09:20] <Mikey^> kris021: you keep coming up with a new problem each time
[09:21] <kris021> Mike^: What do you mean?
[09:21] <Mikey^> we try to answer your question and then you say something
[09:21] <dr_willis> i always keep a live usb tied inside the case of my machines.. for emergancies.  ;)
[09:21] <Mikey^> kris021: use wubi and reinstall
[09:21] <Mikey^> if  thats what you used before
[09:23] <kris021> Mikey^: Like I've said already, seeing as how that's my only real course of action other than constantly using a Guest account, I will. I just said that I didn't want to due to the hassle. Me mentioning the boot disk was in reference to dr_willis' statement about already having it reinstalled.
[09:24] <ome> "X11 Y U suck ?!" :|
[09:25] <dr_willis> what for all the wayland  issues comming in the  next year or 2 ;)
[09:27] <ome> dr_willis: haha, true that. but Its just not good tha when ever I get a new system I shall spend half my time with X11 config files instead of working.
[09:27] <TheCoolest> WHAT'S YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS!!!
[09:27] <Mikey^> !ot TheCoolest
[09:27] <dr_willis> ome:  with the latest releases ive have  had very few if any X issues.. keeps getting better. dident even need to use nomodeset to install with 12.04
[09:27] <TheCoolest> oops
[09:27] <Mikey^> !ot | TheCoolest
[09:28] <Mikey^> TheCoolest: wrong window? :)
[09:28] <TheCoolest> yes
[09:29] <ome> dr_willis: maybe it's that my machines are 'bit exotic, but it's just a probook.
[09:29] <dr_willis> an apple machine? forums and in here are tons of issues with them every week.
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[09:29] <FloodBot1> nRy_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
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[09:32] <ome> dr_willis: no, it's just a HP ProBook, the 4320s.
[09:33] <alankila> What a bother it was to enable hugepages for libvirt
[09:33] <alankila> Clearly nobody else has recently done this
[09:34] <dr_willis> not even sure what it dioes...
[09:36] <Milad_AS> how can i use pm-suspend in cron ?
[09:36] <cristian_c> Hi
[09:36] <cristian_c> How can I identify alsa modules?
[09:36] <Boreeas> Hey, can someone tell me how to restart X? After resuming from suspended state, it suddenly started using 30% of my RAM (~ 1 GB)
[09:38] <alankila> dr_willis: hugepages? it just gives some ~10 % performance boost to virtual machines.
[09:38] <iceroot> Boreeas: sudo service lightdm restart (12.04) sudo service gdm restart (lower then 12.04)
[09:38] <alankila> but to do this, I had to fight broken assumptions made by libvirt about how the pages work -- at least today -- and apparmor. Took a while.
[09:39] <Miscni> morning all
[09:39] <Boreeas> iceroot: Ah, thanks
[09:39] <iceroot> Boreeas: but before
[09:39] <iceroot> Boreeas: http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
[09:39] <alankila> so I had to mount hugetlbfs on /hugepages/libvirt/qemu then tell qemu that the pages are at /hugepages so that it appends that libvirt/qemu again -- it turns out hugepages don't work if you make further directory structure in the hugepage filesystem, but libvirt insisted on that
[09:40] <alankila> additionally, the apparmor template had to be adjusted to permit creation (and reading, I suppose) of files under /hugepages/libvirt/qemu/*
[09:40] <iceroot> Boreeas: normally its just a wrong interpretation of the ram-usage
[09:40] <methods> anyone have any idea which package 32bit version of libpng is in ?
[09:41] <alankila> I would have liked to not have to do this, and just use the transparent hugepage support, but if cache pressure breaks the whole thing and nothing reassembles the huge pages after cache pressure is gone, no thanks.
[09:41] <iceroot> methods: you mean which version is in the repos of libpng?
[09:41] <methods> I'm on ubuntu64 and need the 32bit version which use to be provided by ia32-libs
[09:42] <nopf> hi. dunno where to ask. i open some application menu via 'alt-i'. when mouse has been in that menus area, some unwanted submenu may pop up, so my next key 'h' is badly interpreted. this *does not* happen in ubuntu iirc. somebody tell me how does ubuntu do that, so that i get sane behaviour on all machines?
[09:42] <iceroot> !info libpng12-0
[09:42] <methods> iceroot:  it's not in there
[09:43] <methods> dpkg -L   https://gist.github.com/eb5b7dfc1946aeb85f4c
[09:44] <iceroot> methods: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpng12.so.0
[09:44] <iceroot> methods: of course there is not the 32bit version when you are using the amd64 package
[09:44] <methods> that's the 64bit version....
[09:44] <iceroot> methods: packages.ubuntu.com download the 32bit version and extract the file if you need the 32bit version
[09:45] <methods> let me try asking again
[09:45] <methods> I'm on ubuntu64 and need the 32bit version which use to be provided by ia32-libs
[09:45] <methods> this is not complicated there is many many packages that provide 32 bit versions of many things…
[09:46] <methods> for example:          ia32-libs-multiarch libc6-dev-i386 lib32z1-dev lib32mudflap0 libgl1-mesa-glx libgl1-mesa-dri ia32-libs lib32z1-dev libopenal-dev libglu1-mesa-dev
[09:47] <methods> would also be nice if there was 32bit lua
[10:13] <noob7> 'SP5100 TCO timer: mmio address 0xyyyyyyy already in use' when i boot, ubuntu 12.04. any workarounds?
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> noob7: have you tested your RAM?
[10:15] <noob7> i let memtest run for a 10 mins or so
[10:15] <noob7> its fine i guess
[10:16] <noob7> and my windows dual boot is working properly
[10:17] <Loshki> noob7: personally, I like to run memtest at least overnight...
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> noob7: http://askubuntu.com/questions/38920/boot-splash-broken-by-sp5100-tco-timer-mmio-address-0xyyyyyyy-already-in-use
[10:18] <noob7> Loshki: actually, it was running perfectly until an hou ago...some quick workaround?
[10:18] <noob7> ActionParsnip: been there mate, im not able to blacklist it, it says read only file system :(
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> noob7: probably that then, sounds like you need to fsck the partition
[10:20] <noob7> noob7: actually makes sense because i was just playing around with pysdm before this happened
[10:20] <noob7> lol, ActionParsnip: actually makes sense because i was just playing around with pysdm before this happened
[10:25] <noob7> is there like a simple reinstall thing where this problem gets solved, and i dont lose my apps?
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> noob7: could reinstall, then restore data and settings frmo backup...
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> noob7: simple fsck may fix it good, will require liveCD
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> !fsck
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> noob7: or use that ^
[10:26] <noob7> aah
[10:26] <noob7> trying that now
[10:26] <noob7> thank you
[10:26] <noob7> :D
[10:29] <AminosAmigos> HEllo
[10:30] <AminosAmigos> any one knows a software for designing a T-shirt ?
[10:30] <iSeeDeadPixels> yes
[10:30] <iSeeDeadPixels> GIMP
[10:30] <recon_tv> a question about live usb, there are the i386 and amd64 bit iso's , is it as simple as all 32 bit systems need i386 and all 64bit systems use amd64?
[10:31] <Lebby> AminosAmigos:  GIMP or inkscape
[10:31] <alankila> recon_tv: no, 64-bit systems can also boot 32-bit OSes
[10:32] <iSeeDeadPixels> Desktop > 32bit, Server > 64 bit
[10:32] <HicKey> I`m Using SnOoPy ScRiPt
[10:32] <AminosAmigos> Ok :D hope i could find a tuto will keep you posted ;)
[10:32] <Lebby> AminosAmigos:  explain it better and if i can, i'll give you snippets!
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> recon_tv: intel 64bit will be usable with the 64bit ISO
[10:33] <AminosAmigos> I am looking for a tutorial about designing a T-shirt with GIMP
[10:34] <gopalmishra> i have problem using usb modem in ubuntu 12.04 lts, can any one suggest what to do
[10:34] <recon_tv> ok, that helps, does it really make sense to install 32bit on 64bit processor?
[10:34] <AminosAmigos> Do they have an IRC room ?
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> gopalmishra: 3G modem or ADSL modem. 'modem' is a very amiguous term
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> AminosAmigos: #gimp
[10:34] <gopalmishra> action parsnip > 3g modem
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> gopalmishra: if you run:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; lsusb    can you please PASTEBIN the output
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> gopalmishra: if you use TAB to complete nicks, its easier to type and you will highlight whom you are addressing :)
[10:35] <kutty> how to create new partion ubuntu 12.04 pls any one help?
[10:35] <iSeeDeadPixels> recon_tv: 32bit if you're using gnome, 64 bit if you're using server
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> kutty: use gparted
[10:35] <iSeeDeadPixels> kutty, gparted
[10:36] <theadmin> kutty: GParted. If you need to resize existing partitions, best to use a livecd (you can't change partitions if they're in use)
[10:36] <recon_tv> iSeeDeadPixels: ok, I'll do it that way, had 64 bit on my laptop, it does have a couple of issues
[10:40] <snapdata> Every time I try to shut down my computer the window manager closes, nothing else does, and I wind up having to hold the power button. Any ideas?
[10:40] <snapdata> 12.04
[10:40] <rax-> I'm running ubuntu 12.04 as a xbmc server with an ati card.. problem is the audio over HDMI stops working after the TV has been turned off and back on and doesn't recognise it coming back? Any ideas how I can fix this?
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> snapdata: if you run:  sudo shutdown -h now     does it shutdown ok?
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> rax-: if you unload then reload your sound module, is it ok?
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> rax-: actually, just try:  killall pulseaudio
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> rax-: it should then restart and might be ok
[10:42] <snapdata> ActionParsnip: lets find out
[10:42] <rax-> probably would be but I don't know how to do that. Also I need it to do this without my input because my gf will use it without any terminal access
[10:42] <recon_tv> ActionParsnip: do you work for ubuntu ? you nearly always here?
[10:43] <alankila> I wrote this about the hugetlbfs thing: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libvirt/+bug/1001584
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> recon_tv: just chillin, making the world a better place. I'm a user just like you but I am an ubuntu member. I don't work for Ubuntu
[10:43] <snapdata> ActionParsnip: it worked
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> rax-: not sure how to automate it, you could make her a desktop icon
[10:44] <snapdata> ActionParsnip: why doesn't the gnome 'shutdown' button use the -h flag by default?
[10:44] <snapdata> ActionParsnip: and thank you, by the way :)
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> snapdata: not sure, could be a permission thing too
[10:44] <recon_tv> ActionParsnip: good for you, I sort of got tired of idiots who would not listen to help when offered :)
[10:44] <rax-> hmm well it's an xbmc only session, so even that wouldn't work ;\
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> snapdata: s'alreet
[10:44] <snapdata> ActionParsnip: rgr
[10:44] <rax-> at the minute we just restart the host from the reboot option ins xbmc
[10:45] <rax-> doesn't take too long at least but it's annoying
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> rax-: you can add applications in xbmc, just add your script
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> rax-: does the command even work?
[10:45] <rax-> not at home right now to test it, I've written it down and will try tonight
[10:45] <namoamitabuddha> How to know whether UPnP is OK in aMule?
[10:46] <recon_tv> managed to fry networking on my 64bit 10.04 lts lastnight installing android development environment, thus the upgrade to xubuntu 12.04
[10:47] <violinappren> recon_tv:  ADK does not interface with networking
[10:48] <noob7>  ActionParsnip: touch forcefsck gives me the same error, readonly. how can i do it with a live cd/usb?
[10:49] <dr__willis> !fixapt
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> noob7: there is a man page for fsck, or you can find guides online
[10:49] <recon_tv> violinappren: tell my computer that, the instructions I followed left me with some UI strangeness and no sign of network manager even though the card was detected, it also managed to leave me with a login loop :)
[10:50] <noob7> ActionParsnip: thank you
[10:50] <violinappren> recon_tv: where is that page? it's as simple as extracting an archive and running some binaries inside to download some tools
[10:50] <recon_tv> probably my mistake :) but system was well messed up. was going to upgrade anyway
[10:54] <namoamitabuddha> Ee?
[10:56] <Sidewinder> Must've finally got his diploma. :)
[10:57] <recon_tv> violinappren: I'll be trying it again on a more uptodate system, if I get the same problems I'll come back and ask
[11:00] <tabasko> is there way toget back to the desktop without f7-f12ä
[11:01] <recon_tv> tabasko: reboot?
[11:03] <chatubuntu> hi  xubuntu precise users
[11:04] <dpy> hi guys
[11:04] <harshad> how to install updates of ubuntu 12.04 offline...
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> harshad: you could use the debs from an online system and use aptoncd to install them
[11:06] <harshad> ActionParsnip:what is aptonncd
[11:06] <sjihs> Isn't Monaco font available in ubuntu's repo?
[11:08] <recon_tv> harshad: google is you friend :)
[11:09] <Dr_Willis> tabasko:  restart the lightdm service will kill X/restart it.. and should have it appear.
[11:09] <chatubuntu> i am running fresh xubuntu-desktop 386 , but no sound, neither on iMac nor DELL nor lenovo R61.  ubuntu without x however sounds well
[11:11] <recon_tv> chatubuntu: have you had a look at alsa-mixer and check all volumes ?
[11:11] <pingec> what would be the easier/lightest way to start a http server that serves a single static response to any http request?
[11:12] <dpy> Does anyone know why wine won't run as non-root on oneiric?  The user is in the following groups: adm tty dialout cdrom audio video plugdev staff netdev lpadmin ssl-cert pulse admin sambashare vboxusers
[11:12] <Lebby> pingec:  do u wanna create by c++? or do u wanna a service?
[11:14] <ndlovu> I've installed some fonts using font viewer; they show up in openoffice, but not in scribus - any ideas how to fix?
[11:15] <ndlovu> ah... are fonts installed in user or system space?
[11:15] <recon_tv> pingec: easier/lightest was rarely the same, would think the easiest way would be to install a regular web server and tweek it.
[11:15] <chatubuntu> recon_tv,  i tried it, but no success. also Lautstärkeregler does not help
[11:16] <ndlovu> I'm having to run scribus as root or it crashes on 12.04, so that's probably the issue: not finding user-installed fonts
[11:16] <Mikey^> ndlovu: try running it from the commandline and see if u spot any errors
[11:17] <pingec> easiest has precedence
[11:17] <pingec> :D
[11:17] <greenit> hi, i have a problem with my firefox.... when i open it (i use it full-screen) it only shows half of the screen... when i click on the upper bar, it shows first 3/4 and after another click it shows in real fullscreen... can you help me plz? i don't like it -.-
[11:18] <ndlovu> Mikey^, it's this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/scribus/+bug/973332
[11:18] <pingec> i just need a tiny http serv that lets me specify a default response
[11:18] <chris|> pingec, try http://twistedmatrix.com/trac/wiki/TwistedWeb
[11:19] <mr^swift> is it possible to remove bottom shelf in gnome classic?
[11:19] <Mikey^> mr^swift: nope
[11:19] <pingec> ok i will
[11:19] <mr^swift> fair enough ... .thanks
[11:19] <chatubuntu> recon_tv,  speaker-test is working.
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> mr^swift: i believe it's ALT+Shift+right click -> delete
[11:20] <mr^swift> ill try that
[11:21] <recon_tv> chatubuntu: would indicate  your sound is working?
[11:22] <greenit> this is how my firefox looks like when i open it: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/24/ermd.png/ http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/210/nearlyfullff.png/   plz help me :(
[11:22] <chatubuntu> recon_tv, yes i hope.
[11:22] <chatubuntu> thanx for help
[11:23] <chatubuntu> bye
[11:27] <chaotix> hello, i am having an issue that I cant seem to remedy searching the forums and all of google, and would much appreciate some assistance:  When I got this laptop i installed Ubuntu 10.04 on it, wiping my windows partition, and saved the ISO and sometimes use it in Oracle VM VirtualBox, and would now like to burn it back to my hard drive to use for dual boot.  I used gparted to make the necessary NTFS partition, but i cannot s
[11:27] <chaotix> eem to make a bootable drive out of the image.  I have made attempts with UNetBootin, TuxBoot, and from the terminal, and my ISO does not show up in the Ubuntu Startup Disk Creator tool... I do not know what I am doing wrong.  If someone can try to help me, i will do my best to provide them with every detail they need...  Thanks in advance
[11:28] <chaotix> The iso is a good image, and works, i can easily use it and get the installer running for a virtual machine...  i am not able to properly write it to a disk
[11:29] <gr33n7007h> Is the google-earth in the repos
[11:29] <auronandace> gr33n7007h: no
[11:29] <firas> how to enable OEM option in ubiquity?
[11:29] <gr33n7007h> auronandace, ok thank you
[11:30] <chaotix> google earth is showing up in synaptic for me, but it might be that i already have that ppa from somethin else
[11:30] <savr> hi
[11:30] <savr> when I open gedit it doesn't want to show the icon in the side bar
[11:30] <savr> it doesn't appear in alt-tab
[11:30] <savr> so once I loose focus of the window
[11:30] <savr> i've lost it till I kill it and restart
[11:31] <savr> starting from terminal shows the following errors:
[11:31] <recon_tv> savr PASTEBIN !!!!
[11:31] <savr> http://pastebin.com/sgU9Xd5g
[11:32] <savr> recon_tv, I'm not stupid lol :P
[11:32] <BluesKaj> ActionParsnip, is it true that DNS server entries have to be put in /etc/network/interfaces , in 12.04,  rather than /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head ?
[11:33] <chaotix> lol recon_tv
[11:33] <chaotix> :)
[11:33] <BluesKaj> ActionParsnip, because the latter seems to be working fine here
[11:33] <chaotix> that was cool
[11:34] <firas> how to enable OEM option in ubiquity?
[11:34] <chaotix> jw, were you guys here when i asked my question?  i dont want to post it too often  :)
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: afaik it's all in /etc/resolv.conf which is populated by network manager
[11:35] <firas> can u add an entry to grub2 to get ubiquity in oem mode??
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> chaotix: you can run:  apt-cache policy googleearth*    to see where it comes from
[11:35] <BluesKaj> ActionParsnip,, I'm not using NM
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: or wicd
[11:36] <BluesKaj> nope
[11:36] <chaotix> ActionParsnip, my problem is re: making a bootable usb startup disk
[11:36] <Jonno> Can anyone help me with an upstart problem. I'm proper stumped.
[11:36] <chaotix> i was answering someone else about google earth
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: are you using static IP?
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> chaotix: tried unetbootin?
[11:37] <recon_tv> savr: lsb_release -a
[11:37] <savr> thanks
[11:37] <aasd> asd
[11:37] <recon_tv> savr, just asking for you ubuntu version
[11:37] <savr> No LSB modules are available.
[11:37] <savr> 12.4
[11:37] <BluesKaj> ActionParsnip, yes , static IP
[11:38] <savr> I'm using gedit-gmate
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> savr: then if you set it in /etc/resolv.conf  it will not be touched
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> !info gedit-gmate
[11:38] <firas> can u add an entry to grub2 to get ubiquity in oem mode??
[11:38] <BluesKaj> ActionParsnip, on the lan, but not on the internet
[11:38] <savr> ActionParsnip, me?
[11:38] <savr> gmate is just some plugins
[11:39] <savr> still the same gedit binary
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> savr: from here: https://github.com/gmate/gmate
[11:39] <tesmonkey> hi all, anyone having issues adding webmin to apt on 12.04 server ?
[11:39] <savr> ActionParsnip, yes
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> savr: we cannot support PPAs here
[11:39] <savr> it isn't a ppa problem
[11:39] <savr> it is a gedit bug
[11:39] <blingbling> ppa = use at your own risk
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> tesmonkey: webmin isn't supported here, nor is it advised on Debian / ubuntu
[11:39] <dpy> yesssss
[11:39] <savr> and it happened before I installed gmate
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[11:39] <ActionParsnip> savr: then I suggest you contact the PPA maintainer
[11:40] <tesmonkey> ActionParsnip: what other webgui can I use for basic stuff ?
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> !ebox | tesmonkey
[11:40] <dpy> just installed wine1.5 from the ubuntu wine ppa, works!!! and FL 10 also works!
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> dpy: sweet, add an entry in the appdb to say it works :)
[11:41] <recon_tv> lol, I'm just way to slow
[11:41] <savr> ActionParsnip, it isn't a PPA bug.
[11:41] <savr> gmate is fully working
[11:41] <savr> for some reason gedit is locking it self out of windows management
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> savr: does it happen in Unity2D?
[11:42] <savr> don't know
[11:42] <savr> it happens at radon
[11:42] <recon_tv> savr: error indicates a permission problem
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> savr: then.....try it....
[11:42] <savr> random
[11:42] <asus1025c> what problem(s) does update  xserver-xorg-video-intel_2.15.901-1ubuntu2.2_i386.deb address?
[11:42] <savr> if I reboot it fixes it self
[11:42] <savr> for a while
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> savr: try running Unit2D for a while, see if its ok there
[11:42] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: in what respect ?
[11:43] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: sorry not you
[11:43] <ikonia> asus1025c: in what respect ?
[11:43] <savr> ActionParsnip, I rather reboot than downgrade to 2d for bug testing
[11:43] <savr> sorry
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: its a different Unity bar app
[11:43] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: sorry, wasn't meant for you
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: np :)
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> savr: its only to test.
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> savr: its called 'isolating the issue'
[11:44] <blingbling> unity is designed and optimized for netbook and small screen
[11:44] <asus1025c> ikonia, what problems does xserver-xorg-video-intel_2.15.901-1ubuntu2.2_i386.deb correct?
[11:44] <chaotix> ActionParsnip, i tried unetbootin, and tuxboot...  its a good iso b/c it works with virtualbox...
[11:44] <savr> ActionParsnip, but it is random. it may take a few days to happen again
[11:44] <ikonia> asus1025c: what do you mean, what problem ?
[11:44] <blingbling> ikonia, = acer iconia (spam?)
[11:44] <ikonia> blingbling: sorry what?
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> blingbling: I'd say Lubuntu worked on netbooks better by being lighter and is great on small screens asthe panel is small
[11:45] <recon_tv> savr: probably not random :)
[11:45] <snapdata> Is there any way to back up Ubuntu (12.04) and then restore that backup after reinstalling Ubuntu? I can't install Windows now without uninstalling Ubuntu. I require Windows for my work, unfortunately. :(
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> snapdata: do you have windows installed presently?
[11:45] <savr> recon_tv, I can't debug anything that triggers it
[11:45] <tesmonkey> ActionParsnip: zentyal seams to be broken ?
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> snapdata: did you install Ubuntu using wubi?
[11:45] <savr> so the tigger is random
[11:45] <LjL> savr: i can't resolve the issue, but just for my information, have you opened a file on a Samba share in the past with gedit?
[11:45] <snapdata> ActionParsnip: Nope. Ubuntu is the only thing installed.
[11:45] <dr__willis> !backup | savr
[11:46] <savr> LjL, no
[11:46] <dr__willis> !backup | snapdata
[11:46] <dr__willis> wrong nick. ;) sorry
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> snapdata: then boot to liveCD and resize the Ext4 partition, then install Windows to the free space
[11:46] <LjL> savr: ok. was asking because of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gedit/+bug/992095
[11:46] <snapdata> ActionParsnip: The issue is the Windows 7 installer which does not allow you to use custom partitions. (It tries but fails)
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> snapdata: you can then reboot back to the liveCD and reinstate Grub
[11:46] <asus1025c> ikonia, when an update is released it is because it fixes a problem. My question is very clear, is it not?
[11:46] <snapdata> dr__willis: thak you
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> snapdata: it does. I've used it
[11:46] <snapdata> dr__willis: thank you*
[11:46] <recon_tv> snapdata, you can save you home folder and use a tool to store all the packages you have added, then you can recreate your ubuntu from scratch
[11:46] <dr__willis> snapdata:  best soltion wuld be to get a second hard drive. :)
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> snapdata: if you read the screen, it does
[11:47] <snapdata> ActionParsnip: Every time I tried it would give a specific error, after researching the error I found that I have too many partitions for Ubuntu and Windows will not install on top of it.
[11:47] <namoamitabuddha> UPnP failed!
[11:48] <namoamitabuddha> WAN Service not detected
[11:48] <namoamitabuddha> why?
[11:48] <snapdata> Dr_Willis: I have one but I'm still trying to figure out why my second hard drive has swap and boot partitions
[11:48] <snapdata> dr__willis: I have one but I'm still trying to figure out why my second hard drive has swap and boot partitions
[11:49] <Dr_Willis> snapdata:  swap is easy to remake.  /boot/ would only get made if you told it to. If your linux install is using  its own /boot/ then id say its a left over from some other install
[11:49] <recon_tv> snapdata, if it's work related you should probably  buy a non-ome license for windows.
[11:49] <azertyui> hello
[11:49] <asus1025c> can anyone here tell  me what problem(s) does update  xserver-xorg-video-intel_2.15.901-1ubuntu2.2_i386.deb address?
[11:49] <ikonia> asus1025c: it's a software package
[11:49] <savr> I can for example log in to the guest account and have no problems with gedit
[11:50] <Dr_Willis> snapdata:  you could image your linux install to a file. and use it as a vbox hard drive image ;) so you can still run it.
[11:50] <savr> at the same time I have a problem on my account
[11:50] <ikonia> asus1025c: it allows you to use / make the most of the Interl Video card in your machine
[11:50] <savr> and loading all the same plugins in the guest account
[11:50] <azertyui> is there any tool to check on command line the disk micro space before deframenting a disk ?
[11:50] <raptor> hi
[11:50] <snapdata> recon_tv: I'd prefer to not buy it at all, sorry if you have a moral objection to that. :\
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> snapdata: then backup everything in your user's home folder(s) (which should be backuped up anyway). You can then restore the backup after install
[11:50] <raptor> I have got a Inspiron 6000 dell laptop
[11:50] <asus1025c> ikonia, your answer is not detailed enough . My question is very clear, is it not?
[11:50] <raptor> with 1.6ghz and 2gb
[11:51] <recon_tv> snapdata: it's not moral, it just the easy way.
[11:51] <ikonia> asus1025c: no, hence why I asked you for more detail 3 times
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> raptor: ease up on the ENTER key dude
[11:51] <snapdata> Dr_Willis: that's true.
[11:51] <raptor> can I run the latest ubuntu
[11:51] <raptor> oh sorry
[11:51] <Dr_Willis> raptor:  ive ran on lesser systems.
[11:51] <azertyui> ok patience
[11:51] <snapdata> ActionParsnip: I think that's what I'm going to do.
[11:51] <raptor> will it be smooth ?
[11:52] <snapdata> ActionParsnip, Dr_Willis: Thank you very much to the both of you. :) You've been very helpful. We're lucky to have people like you around here. :)
[11:52] <Dr_Willis> raptor:  it runs fine on my netbook with less stats.
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> snapdata: we try
[11:53] <raptor> it is 7 years old systm
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> raptor: I run Ubuntu on much less than that, you'll be fine
[11:53] <raptor> also I will be using it from a USB
[11:54] <firas> how to enable oem mode in ubiquity???
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> raptor: that's fine :), I suggest you install preload to help speed things up
[11:54] <raptor> preload ?
[11:54] <raptor> Currently I have linx mint 10 or something on usb
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> firas: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ubiquity/OEM
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> raptor: yes it's a package, install it and it'll help a little
[11:55] <snapdata> ActionParsnip: So to clarify, I won't have any issues just replacing /usr with my backed up /usr after reinstalling?
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> snapdata: you shouldn't need to backup /usr   you may need to backup /etc but definately backup all of $HOME
[11:55] <snapdata> ActionParsnip: alrighty, thank you very much!
[11:56] <raptor> how do you install a package in ubuntu ?
[11:56] <LjL> !software > raptor
[11:56] <chaotix> ActionParsnip, found a package called usb-imaewriter, i think its stock with 12.04(?), im on lucid, i just started the download of usb-imagewritert so "fingers crossed"
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> raptor: mint isn't supported here
[11:57] <firas> ActionParsnip: this page says nothing about HOWTO
[11:58] <chaotix> nope
[11:58] <raptor> yes I mentioned bcz I'm using it currently and want to swtich back to Ubuntu (did used a earlier version 7 or 8 I don't remember
[11:59] <LjL> firas: there is this, but it seems pretty old :( https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ubuntu_OEM_Installer_Overview
[11:59] <nydel> how to display only hidden files in terminal?
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> raptor: the requirements are pretty similar, you'll be ok
[11:59] <nydel> ls ".*" doesn't work
[12:00] <Dr_Willis> nydel:  try the -a option
[12:00] <Mikey^> nydel: ls -a
[12:00] <nydel> that shows hidden & non-hidden
[12:00] <firas> LjL: Ok , but how to add this grub entry?
[12:00] <nydel> i need only hidden
[12:00] <nydel> LjL: hi there!
[12:01] <Dr_Willis> nydel:  so use -a .* ?
[12:01] <recon_tv> nydel , use grep to filter the output
[12:01] <Mikey^> nydel: ls -a | grep ^.
[12:01] <LjL> firas: which grub entry?
[12:01] <Shanth> how to keep xrandr resolution changes permanent.. i'm new to ubuntu  plz someone  tell me easy way...
[12:01] <LjL> nydel, hi
[12:01] <firas> LjL: in the first screenshot
[12:01] <LjL> firas: that's not GRUB, that's the CD bootloader. it should be there by default, if you use the "text install" (which i guess means the Alternate) CD... at least if you use the version the docs mention, which is an older version of Ubuntu.
[12:02] <chaotix> can someone help me to creare a bootable windows usb from ubuntu 10.04?  i have been trying all night, any help would be much appreciado  :)
[12:02] <nydel> Mikey^: doesn't quite work
[12:02] <Dr_Willis> chaotix:  #windows may be able to help better with that.
[12:02] <Dr_Willis> chaotix:  as far as i recall. you can dd the windows 7 iso image to usb and it should work.
[12:03] <nydel> Mikey^: i get the whoel list, all "." colored & every first letter of a non-hidden colored.
[12:03] <firas> Ljl: I mean, if u want to make ur own distro, how to add this option to ubiquity? not how to install in oem
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> nydel: la | grep '^\.'
[12:03] <hwilde> help with video card EVGA 520
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> nydel: you need to escape the .
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> hwilde: an nvidia?
[12:03] <hwilde> yuh
[12:04] <hwilde> boots up says fail, low graphics mode
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> hwilde: and what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[12:04] <Shanth> screen resolution problem .. hlp plz
[12:04] <hwilde> if I try to run nvidia-settings it says i'm not using nvidia and to run nvidia-xconfig
[12:04] <nydel> ActionParsnip: thank you, i feel dumb for not figuring that on my own
[12:04] <hwilde> if I run nvidia-xconfig it doesn't seem to do shit
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> nydel: it's ok (got LPIA book which  has a bit on regex ;))
[12:04] <LjL> firas: oh, no idea
[12:04] <hwilde> ActionParsnip, karmic koala
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> hwilde: karmic is EOL dude
[12:04] <nydel> ActionParsnip: you rock, i appreciate it.
[12:04] <hwilde> so
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> nydel: np man
[12:04] <firas> LjL: ok, thnx anyway
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> hwilde: its not supported here or anywhere else
[12:06] <Shanth> is it necessary to install nvidia
[12:06] <hwilde> ok pretend I said some other version
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> hwilde: its not supported
[12:06] <hwilde> how do you figure out which nvidia module to install
[12:06] <hwilde> nvidia-glx 173, 180, 185, 96...
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> hwilde: you won't be able to install anything as the repos are all disabled
[12:06] <Shanth> how to reinstall nvidia
[12:06] <Saw> hi guys, I have a a question about packages. I can see ubuntu got packages specifically for it. What are these? why should I install them and not the "offical" ones? can I install the offical ones anyway?
[12:07] <hwilde> Saw, specifically for what
[12:07]  * blingbling removed the ubuntu software center
[12:07] <hwilde> how does one tell which nvidia module is necessary for EVGA 520
[12:07] <Saw> hwilde - for ubuntu. for example, g++. ubuntu (lucid) got g++ 4.4.3. at GCC website, you can find 4.7. any reason I should use and not the other?
[12:07] <Dr_Willis> Saw:  use whats in the repos.
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> Saw: the packages in the repos are the official ones for Ubuntu, you may add 3rd party sources called PPAs and get newer or different software but there are no guaruntees of safety or functionality
[12:08] <Dr_Willis> Saw:  unless you have some specific needs for newer versions, then theres Unsupported PPA's out for most things.
[12:08] <hwilde> how does one tell which nvidia module is necessary for EVGA 520
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> hwilde: if you upgrade or clean install to Lucid, you will be supported
[12:09] <Saw> what is PPA? (i'm assuming something with package, but still)
[12:09] <jondot_> in 12.04, how can i set the font size in Terminal to be a fraction? i.e. 10.6 ? it was possible in 11.04
[12:09] <hwilde> ActionParsnip, dude that is a generic question
[12:09] <hwilde> when I upgrade or install I will have the same question
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> Saw: its a 3rd party source, managed by some guy giving an extra source for packages
[12:09] <hwilde> how do you tell which nvidia module is necessary for the EVGA 520 graphics card
[12:09] <vits> hi guys, i have one question.how to download the deb packages using apt command
[12:10] <Saw> ActionParsnip I ment the initials, I did read what you wrote :} I have to say though it sounds a bit weird. Is there any particular reason g++ (in our example) wouldn't work on ubuntu, but work on other distributions?
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> hwilde: your chip is newish so you will need the 295 driver, this will not be installable as there are no sources for packages
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> !ppa | Saw
[12:10] <hwilde> vits, --download-only
[12:10] <hwilde> ActionParsnip, how did u figure out it is the 295 driver
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> vits: sudo apt-get --reinstall -d install packagename
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> hwilde: its a newish chip so the latest will be fine. My 6150LE works with the 295 too
[12:11] <Saw> you're saying if I use packages from ubuntu, and I have a problem with it, I'll get ubuntu support for it?
[12:11] <hwilde> no you will be told to upgrade :-D
[12:11] <LjL> Saw, it's still all voluntary support so you don't really have a guarantee of any kind unless you actually sign up for paid support from Canonical
[12:12] <ufrgs> Hello guys!
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> Saw: you will get support here for the packages from the official repos
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> Saw: as long as your release isn't EOL, you'll get support
[12:12] <ufrgs> Does anybody knows which font does Firefox uses at its source code view pages?
[12:12] <Saw> hwilde - why? lucid got LTS, it's still supported, isn't it? :P
[12:13] <hwilde> don't mind me i'm just mad at my graphics card.
[12:13] <Saw> ActionParsnip - EOL? and won't I get support from the offical repos if I use PPA as well?
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> Saw: indeed. Lucid is EOL in April 2014
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> Saw: EOL = end of life = not supoprted
[12:14] <Saw> ActionParsnip - 2015 for server :P
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> Saw: we cannot support PPAs here but the official packages, we can
[12:14] <Saw> (2013 for desktop iric btw)
[12:14] <Saw> ActionParsnip - cool, got it :} thanks!
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> Saw: yeah copied the wrong date
[12:16] <gizero> Hi. Which printer manufacturer would you recommend for good linux support for colour printers? Preferably multi functional devices.
[12:16] <hwilde> our multi kyocera taskalfa works fine
[12:17] <Dr_Willis> gizero:  id have to say HP or Brother. but id reserach anything befor you buy.
[12:18] <Dr_Willis> gizero:  the more complex the gizmo the more likely some parts of it wont work
[12:18] <m477> is it normal that ctrl+r sometimes brakes?
[12:18] <gilmo> no problems with HP for me
[12:18] <Dr_Willis> m477:  breaks what?
[12:18] <ufrgs> Impressive how good is Ubuntu getting!
[12:18] <m477> Dr_Willis: stops working
[12:18] <chaotix> hi, i am trying to make a bootable usb drive of a windows ISO and i am in Ubuntu 10.04...  unetbootin, tuxboot, and usb-startupdisk-creator are  no go...  dows anyone know how i can do this?
[12:18] <compdoc> it is good
[12:18] <m477> Dr_Willis: in way that doesnt respond for any key
[12:18] <Dr_Willis> m477:  what when/where/who breaks?
[12:18] <m477> and u have to kill it
[12:19] <m477> ctrl+r, I dont know how it is called
[12:19] <ufrgs> For the first time I could really fell why someone would still using Windows question myself.
[12:19] <m477> in bash
[12:19] <Dr_Willis> m477:  you mean the flow control feature? ctrl-q/ctrl-r ?
[12:19] <gilmo> ufrgs: Diablo 3 :P
[12:19] <m477> Dr_Willis: indeed
[12:20] <ufrgs> gilmo, lol
[12:23] <Taneb> Is there a way to hide the unity thing on the left when running a full screen program?
[12:23] <compdoc> Taneb, there is a setting to have it auto hide
[12:23] <Sidewinder> chaotix, I don't have your answer, sorry. Have you asked in #windows?
[12:23] <Taneb> compdoc, thanks
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> chaotix: tried a different USB device? I assume you used the same storage each time...
[12:23] <gilmo> chaotix have you tried 'dd' ?
[12:24] <Sidewinder> chaotix, Or, you could always call Microsoft's support phone number. Personally, you paid for a product, I think you're entitled to support.
[12:25] <chaotix> gilmo, im not sure if i did it correctly, i have never done itr before...  do you have a link with a 'dd' tutorial?
[12:25] <chaotix> Sidewinder, i bought the laptop at a pawn shop used...  theyre pricks
[12:25] <chaotix> i doubt they will help
[12:25] <chaotix> dell miht help though
[12:26] <Sidewinder> I hope it was cheap. ;-)
[12:26] <chaotix> it was $40
[12:26] <chaotix> and well worth it
[12:26] <gilmo> chaotix: ehm, not really. 'man dd' should help you. if= and of= should be the options you are looking for
[12:26] <bertieb> Hey all, is there an issue with the repos at the moment? ppa.launchpad.net, archive/security.ubuntu.com etc are timing out here across 2 ISPs
[12:26] <chaotix> for the linux use i got out of it it was worth the 40
[12:26] <chaotix> :)
[12:26] <chaotix> thanks ill check it out
[12:28] <chris|> chaotix, when installing windows you need to also consider the cost of brain damage
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> chaotix: could install using CD
[12:28] <chaotix> i guess it could be the usb drive too...  but i duno because i only have one drive that is big enough for winDOWN...  the rest are 2gb
[12:28] <chaotix> and i have no cd's
[12:28] <chaotix> lol
[12:28] <Sidewinder> bertieb, I don't know about everyone else but for years now, I have found launchpad pages always seem to take forever to load. You're mileage may vary, though. :)
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> chaotix: CDs are cheap dude
[12:28] <chaotix> i guess i could try to burn a gparted live usb, since thats kinda fast...  and see if it woorks
[12:29] <chaotix> ok
[12:29] <bertieb> Sidewinder: cheers, it's causing apt to fail at an inconvenient time though! (Is there a convenient time for apt-get to fail?)
[12:29] <lordbah> I told Ubuntu Software Center to install libapache2-mod-mono and it's hung partway through. dkpg.log last line is "status half-configured mono-apache-server4 2.10-1build1". Suggestions? This is on 12.04.
[12:30] <killer> hi guys...how to play cd or dvd in ubuntu
[12:30] <Sidewinder> chaotix, I seem to remember that gparted used to provide a "Gparted Boot Disk", but I forget where I found it..
[12:30] <chaotix> ok so im onna try a few things...  love you all for trying, and for the ideas..  i may be back...  pray that i am not back
[12:31] <ardian> how can I install gnome classic in Xubuntu ?
[12:31] <chaotix> Sidewinder, i have a gparted live usb
[12:31] <Sidewinder> Good luck!
[12:31] <chaotix> and the iso on my desktop
[12:31] <chaotix> ok
[12:31] <chaotix> fingers crossed that i wont be back
[12:31] <Sidewinder> Wish I had some money on my desktop. :)
[12:32] <Zally666> my apt-get update is broken
[12:32] <chaotix> i refuse to sleep till i get this done, :) ...  so lets hope it works
[12:32] <lelamal> !details | killer
[12:32] <chaotix> i have 3 things to try
[12:32] <chaotix> bye guys
[12:32] <Dr_Willis> !dvd | killer
[12:32] <Dr_Willis> Zally666:  the apt servers seem real slow right now - not sure whats going on
[12:35] <tailf> so i am about to back up some files using rsync. does anyone recommend any arguments besides -r (recursive, to include everything in a directory)?
[12:37] <compdoc> tailf, Ive never had to use -r
[12:38] <tailf> compdoc: so you only ever rsync single files?
[12:39] <jm> I use -a which includes -r I think
[12:39] <yeats> tailf: cp/scp suffice for single files
[12:39] <compdoc> tailf, not at all - it just copies all files and folders in the path
[12:40] <compdoc> one of my commands:   rsync -avnX --ignore-existing --progress  --del   source    target
[12:40] <yeats> tailf: I tend to do 'rsync -av <source> <dest>'
[12:40] <jm> no -z?
[12:41] <nydel> ActionParsnip: to list all files that are not directories?
[12:42] <nydel> anyone, how do i list all files that are not directories
[12:42] <compdoc> there is a -r, but Ive never had to use it - strange, huh?
[12:52] <sddsds> canonical fuck
[12:54] <Sidewinder> There's so many 'cli fanatics, around here. :)
[12:54] <IdleOne> !language | sddsds
[12:54] <recon_tv> sddsds: are you sure the servers are down, I'd be surprised, been using them all day
[12:54] <tailf> sidewinter: my username works well to disguise the fact i am still a linux amateur :D
[12:54] <bastidrazor> Sidewinder: reading comprehension makes cli easy. manpages tell all.
[12:54] <iceroot> sddsds: which ubuntu-version?
[12:54] <sddsds> servers updates precise pangolin goes broken
[12:54] <sddsds> i cannot update
[12:54] <sddsds> fuck canonical
[12:54] <Sidewinder> bastidrazor, That presupposes that one can read..
[12:54] <iceroot> :)
[12:54] <Sidewinder> Heh,.
[12:54] <iceroot> always to much patient ...
[12:54] <zastaph> my .bash_profile is not executed when I open Terminal in Ubuntu
[12:54] <samba35> how to check all installed packages and their time stamp
[12:54] <Shanth> how to fix this in ubuntu software center " Waiting for apt-get to exit "
[12:54] <bastidrazor> zastaph: there is no .bash_profile in your home unless you've created it. in that case you need to have it sourced from .bashrc or .profile
[12:55] <zastaph> bastidrazor, seems .bashrc is sourced from .profile, but it's not run either
[12:55] <recon_tv> sddsds: with an attitude like that and the lack of info I doth anyone will help
[12:56] <bastidrazor> zastaph: are you running bash?
[12:57] <zastaph> bastidrazor, i don't know, how do I find out?
[13:01] <gilmo> zastaph, try with 'grep -i YOUR_USERNAME /etc/passwd'
[13:01] <gilmo> the end of the line will tell you
[13:02] <sk1special_> how come everytime i open the channel list my proccesor usage jumps to 100 percent and cant type anything anymore? the screen does not freeze i can move windows around etc..just no typing/scrolling/clicking menus
[13:02] <zastaph> gilmo, yes it says /bin/bash
[13:03] <raven> id like to do a visualization of an audio file in a video - is there any way to use visualization plugins of audio players non-linear to generate a video containing levels/spectrums?
[13:05] <savr> do women use ubuntu?
[13:05] <savr> :P
[13:05] <sk1special_> raven: couldnt you just play the audio file with visualization full screened / using video screen capture and edit that into your video?
[13:06] <raven> sk1special_ would be nice to do it non linear because theese audio files are about 2-3 hours
[13:08] <tailf> savr: what exactly are these "women" you speak of?
[13:08] <sk1special_> ah..apparently im retarded. what do you mean non linear?
[13:08] <savr> who knows lol
[13:09] <isabel> hi, i have trouble connecting Canon LBP 3100 printer to Ubuntu 12.04, can anyone help?
[13:09] <jonasthomas-> I'm trying to get chatzilla to beep... so far no joy... just installed beep on 10.03 and it seems I can get that do to anything.... Speakers on my toshiba laptop seem fine.
[13:09] <cacad> Hi
[13:10] <cacad> damn
[13:10] <sk1special_> like you dont want it to play the whole file in a row? youd just cut out the times you want then yeah? using a vid editor?
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> isabel: did you check the canon uk website for drivers?
[13:11] <isabel> ActionParsnip: Yes, i downloaded the drivers and installed it, the printer is a usb printer
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> isabel: when you power it up, does the system react?
[13:13] <raven> id like to do a visualization of an audio file in a video - is there any way to use visualization plugins of audio players non-linear to generate a video containing levels/spectrums?
[13:13] <isabel> ActionParsnip: not sure what you mean, but when i turn the printer on nothing happens in ubuntu
[13:14] <solderblob> oi
[13:14] <IdleOne> isabel: Did you add the printer via the Add printer tool in system settings?
[13:14] <isabel> IdleOne: Yes
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> isabel: ok then in the cog menu, there is a printer app you can use there
[13:15] <isabel> ActionParsnip: ok
[13:17] <isabel> ActionParsnip: i deleted the printers i added there, and when turning the printer on it reappears in the Printing app under the cog menu
[13:17] <mafiaboy> hi guys.......can a virus affect system if it runs through wine?
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> isabel: or you can use the cups web ui (old skool):  http://localhost:631
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> mafiaboy: it will affect only the ~/.wine folder
[13:18] <isabel> ActionParsnip: is that what you mean the system react?
[13:18] <mafiaboy> ActionParsnip: it means my normal ubuntu apps will  run perfectly
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> mafiaboy: yes, windows viruses won't affect Ubuntu
[13:19] <isabel> ActionParsnip: Looks like it added itself in there, but when printing a test page it just states "Processing - Sending data to printer."
[13:19] <bikegmb> Hi, I need some help to configure my ubuntu 12.04 to vpntunnel.se
[13:20] <isabel> ActionParsnip: and nothing is printing, is there something i can check somewhere?
[13:20] <galvao> bom dia
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> isabel: remove the printer, then add it manually, specifying the driver
[13:21] <zastaph> according to this http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/32599/auto-running-bash-script-on-login .bashrc isn't run when starting Terminal from Unity .. i think that's my problem, but I'm not sure what the solution is
[13:21] <isabel> ActionParsnip: ok, but there is only a japanese driver for my model not a uk one? can i use the japenese driver?
[13:22] <galvao> to com um probleminha aqui. Quando coloco no gnome classic aparece junto o unity nao aparece o menu lacarte  e o ubuntu tweek nao edita o unitty. alguem pode me ajudar?
[13:22] <solderblob> ubuntu repos seem laggy this morning
[13:23] <solderblob> uber slow on apt-get update
[13:23] <lelamal> !br | galvao
[13:23] <solderblob> taking mings to update repos
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> isabel: as long as the driver values are right, sure why not. Have you checked the openprinting database too
[13:23] <solderblob> mings=minutes
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> solderblob: try using apt-fast
[13:23] <galvao> obrigado
[13:24] <isabel> ActionParsnip: no, where wil i get that?
[13:24] <solderblob> lulz
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> isabel: its a website
[13:24] <isabel> ActionParsnip: ok, i will google it
[13:24] <solderblob> !help
[13:25] <solderblob> !info
[13:25] <delac> what parameters does udev rule pass to the (RUN+=) script?
[13:26] <isabel> ActionParsnip: When selecting the driver it select by default this one "Canon LBP3100/LBP3108/LBP3150 CAPT (UK)" , my printer is a LBP 3100, so this one should work?
[13:26] <IdleOne> it should
[13:27] <raven> id like to do a visualization of an audio file in a video - is there any way to use visualization plugins of audio players non-linear to generate a video containing levels/spectrums?
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> isabel: makes sense, could try the 3000 driver too
[13:27] <isabel> ActionParsnip: IdleOne: when printing test page, its states "Processing - Sending data to printer." is there not a problem elsewhere? its connected via usb
[13:28] <solderblob> Epson makes a wonderfully compatible printer, HP also ( I know this is not fixing the issue).
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> HP make great Linux drivers via the HPLIP project
[13:29] <solderblob> ^
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> isabel: did you check the open printing foundation website?
[13:29] <solderblob> stay away from dell, you never know what you are going to get...
[13:30] <solderblob> (regarding printers)
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> solderblob: probably a rebadged Canon
[13:30] <isabel> Yes , in know, never had any problems with HP printers, unfortunately i am stuck with this cheap canon laser printer
[13:30] <solderblob> I think mine was a rebadged Lexmark, but yep something like that..
[13:30] <solderblob> isabel, totally understand..  Not trying to troll you.  wish I could help
[13:31] <isabel> It just keep on stating "Processing - Sending data to printer."
[13:31] <isabel> with the Canon LBP3000 CAPT ver.1.5 driver too
[13:32] <Crypto_> anybody helping here?
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> Crypto_: many
[13:32] <isabel> when changing the driver in the printers properties must a restart something?
[13:32] <Crypto_> I accidentally set grub to boot memtest by default
[13:32] <solderblob> Canon LBP3000 CAPT is different than Canon LBP3000?
[13:32] <solderblob> Crypto_, lulz
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> Crypto_: then you will need to hold shift at boot and select the kernel
[13:32] <Crypto_> cant
[13:32] <solderblob> esc?
[13:32] <Crypto_> it just boots to memtest even when I try
[13:33] <solderblob> before boot, esc, no?
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> Crypto_: then you will need to chroot using liveCD/USB and change the default there
[13:33] <solderblob> ^is easy todo and good practice
[13:33] <Crypto_> none of the keys to go to the kernel menu work
[13:33] <Crypto_> I'll try the live cd
[13:33] <IdleOne> isabel: have a look at this page http://www.unixmen.com/installation-canon-lbp2900-on-linux/ not sure if it will help but worth a try
[13:34] <solderblob> Crypto_, did you try hitting esc key before it boots to memtest? to get into grub...
[13:34] <Crypto_> tried a million times
[13:34] <Crypto_> I saw the purple screen flash once a few times, but memtest just ends up booting anyways
[13:35] <solderblob> IdleOne, Canon LBP3000 Printer, ubuntu 10.04.. http://ur1.ca/99q57 , she try that?
[13:35] <isabel> IdleOne: thanks, i have went through the instructions on this page,but get stuck with same results
[13:36] <IdleOne> isabel: sorry, wish i could be more help. I gave up on Canon a couple years back.
[13:37] <solderblob> Crypto_, I would do as ActionParsnip said, boot to live cd and chroot the filesystem on the drive, then just edit grub.
[13:37] <Crypto_> how do I chroot?
[13:37] <raven> id like to do a visualization of an audio file in a video - is there any way to use visualization plugins of audio players non-linear to generate a video containing levels/spectrums?
[13:37] <solderblob> lemme find a howto
[13:37] <isabel> ActionParsnip: is there not naybe a issue with sub port?
[13:39] <solderblob> Crypto_, basic idea http://ur1.ca/99q60 .  Just don't do anything but edit the file and reboot.  no sudo apt-get updates etc...
[13:39] <raven> id like to do a visualization of an audio file in a video - is there any way to use visualization plugins of audio players non-linear to generate a video containing levels/spectrums?
[13:39] <isabel> ActionParsnip: is there not maybe a issue with usb port?
[13:39] <samba35> how to check which packages are recently installed or update ?
[13:40] <solderblob> samba35, sudo apt-get install synaptic , imo
[13:40] <solderblob> or
[13:40] <solderblob> sudo dpkg -l
[13:40] <samba35> ok
[13:40] <solderblob> for a list of packages installed
[13:41] <SolarisBoy> samba35: take a look at '/var/log/apt/term.log'
[13:41] <solderblob> /var/log/dpkg.log too
[13:42] <solderblob> Crypto_, I think you could  just boot to a live cd, mount the drive and find the grub config file, edit that way.  been a while since Ive needed to do that.
[13:42] <boritek> hi there. On Precise my camera doesnt work after install (it seemingly worked during install where i can make a user photo!! and some more releases back it worked out of the box). How can I fix it?
[13:42] <Crypto_> yeah
[13:42] <Crypto_> I had actually already tried that but couldnt run update-grub... chrooting should fix that
[13:42] <Crypto_> thanks
[13:42] <solderblob> its still cool to chroot, kind of fun, that is how you change the password if you forget it.
[13:42] <samba35> ok thanks
[13:42] <solderblob> np
[13:43] <c0deMaster> how to run applications in a sandbox?
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> boritek: does it work in cheese?
[13:44] <solderblob> c0deMaster, could you be more specific?
[13:45] <solderblob> c0deMaster, you mean like http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man8/sandbox.8.html
[13:45] <karol_> hello, I've run into a disturbing problem installing ubuntu.
[13:45] <solderblob> karol_, just say it.
[13:45] <raptor> hi what is the default username and passoword for ubuntu 12.04
[13:45] <raptor> I just installed it on USB and it is asking me for a username and password
[13:45] <karol_> The install runs "run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly"
[13:45] <recon_tv> raptor, the one you entered :)
[13:45] <karol_> and freezes
[13:45] <boritek> ActionParsnip: no not in Cheese (all button and menu are greyed out) not in vlc, not in skype
[13:45] <solderblob> ubuntu, no password, no?
[13:46] <raptor> I just installed it on USb
[13:46] <karol_> i mean it's still responsive, but i'm waiting like half an hour for it to run
[13:46] <recon_tv> raptor: then there is no password i think
[13:46] <c0deMaster> solderblob, if there is backdoor or malicious code somewhere but I don't know which files so I need to open or execute applications without infecting my system
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> boritek: then run:  lsusb   and use the 8 character hex ID to find guides
[13:46] <raptor> what about the username
[13:46] <jiohdi> raptor, you have to supply the user name and password as you install
[13:46] <solderblob> ah...
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> boritek: make sure you are fully updated
[13:46] <kimspindel> solderblob: i like your nick :)
[13:46] <raptor> I did it with Universal-USB-Installer-1.8.9.7
[13:46] <boritek> ActionParsnip: ok, I have updated today
[13:47] <solderblob> [:
[13:47] <jiohdi> raptor, as part of the install process, you give it the username and password
[13:47] <jiohdi> otherwise it does not have one
[13:47] <solderblob> ^
[13:47] <raptor> It's a live USb
[13:47] <OerHeks> raptor, Try 'ubuntu' with an empty password.
[13:48] <recon_tv> raptor: no idea,  never needed one on a flash stick
[13:48] <jiohdi> live has no password, only once you install
[13:48] <karol_> anyone any clue how long can /etc/cron.hourly take to run?
[13:48] <karol_> and why even run it during install?
[13:48] <raptor> so should I try ubuntu without any password
[13:48] <recon_tv> karol_: I would guess hourly
[13:48] <solderblob> raptor, which screen are getting stuck on, here is a screen by screen howto http://ur1.ca/99q7g
[13:48] <raptor> is there any irc client for andriod
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> raptor: press CTRL+ALT+F1 on the login screen and run:  passwd ubuntu     then set a password and press CTRL+ALT+F7 and log in
[13:48] <jiohdi> raptor why do you need a password?
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> raptor: I use andchat
[13:49] <raptor> http://static.howtoforge.com/images/the_perfect_desktop_ubuntu_12.04_precise_pangolin/big/12.jpg
[13:49] <solderblob> ActionParsnip, does andchat work with proxies?
[13:49] <solderblob> lookin
[13:49] <raptor> no username is written there
[13:49] <solderblob> oh..really?
[13:49] <Xeli> Hello, I've just gotten a new soundcard, which outputs sounds just however I cannot adjust the volume anywhere but alsamixer
[13:50] <solderblob> raptor, this is the live cd?
[13:50] <Xeli> and even there the master volume only adjusts the volume marginally
[13:50] <Xeli> any tips?
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> solderblob: no idea, i don't use a proxy
[13:50] <solderblob> ActionParsnip, thx
[13:50] <karol_> i finish all steps of configuration and then i just wait for the system to install
[13:50] <solderblob> how did you make the usb? raptor ?
[13:50] <raptor> yes I downloaded this file ubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso
[13:50] <solderblob> k
[13:50] <karol_> after fetching tsome packages from the internet
[13:50] <raptor> using Universal-USB-Installer-1.8.9.7
[13:51] <jiohdi> raptor, you can install it back onto the usb stick and it will then have an actual password
[13:51] <solderblob> ^
[13:51] <karol_> the installer runs "run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly"
[13:51] <solderblob> raptor, you using window$ to make the cd, or linux?
[13:51] <karol_> and freezes
[13:51] <raptor> windows 7
[13:51] <solderblob> try lili usb creator
[13:52] <solderblob> http://www.linuxliveusb.com/
[13:52] <solderblob> without persistence
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> raptor: have you used the same USB device each time?
[13:52] <raptor> Universal was mentioned on ubuntu help
[13:52] <solderblob> mm, Ive only had luck with lili on windows, just my advice...
[13:53] <raptor> I have used universal with ther  distro as well such as fedora, linux mint etx
[13:53] <jiohdi> unetbootin works more than 50% of the time
[13:53] <solderblob> ^I use that on windows
[13:54] <solderblob> I mean, I use that on LInux*
[13:54] <solderblob> unetbootin
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> I always use unetbootin, works great
[13:54] <nischay> Hi ! Guys :)
[13:54] <solderblob> ohai
[13:55] <solderblob> so, are the ops in here Canonical or community, just curious...
[13:56] <chu> Community.
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> solderblob: there are ops who keep order
[13:56] <solderblob> cool
[13:56] <chu> (There are possibly a few Canonical). This is off-topic though, come join us in #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to talk :)
[13:57] <solderblob> cause /topic says Official Support.. made me wonder
[13:57] <nischay> I need some help about ics ipmasq in ubuntu 12.04 and making IPMASQ permanent in ubuntu so i can share  my internet connection ppp0 with my eth0 network here is want i done but not successful http://paste.ubuntu.com/995851/
[13:57] <solderblob> chu, k
[13:57] <Crypto_> im getting dome errors running commands after doing chroot
[13:57] <Crypto_> some*
[13:57] <zastaph> is it not possible to have Terminal launched via Unity load .bashrc or .bash_profile or .profile? neither are loaded for me
[13:58] <zastaph> because my alias isn't loaded
[13:58] <solderblob> what errors?
[13:58] <anos> how to add a directory shortcut to 12.04 side panel??????????
[13:58] <zykotick9> zastaph: if you type "alias" is anything listed?
[13:59] <zastaph> zykotick, duh yes.. it seems i have an error in my .bashrc somewhere
[13:59] <Crypto_> http://pastebin.com/xaBUCA8F
[13:59] <solderblob> anos, ln -s
[13:59] <recon_tv> anos: dragging not work?
[14:01] <nischay> Pls help me
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> anos: the only way I know is to make a .desktop in /usr/share/applications/ to run the nautilus command with what you want. Or you can grab the file from omgubuntu which gives a nice right click menu and add what you desire
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> zastaph: if you run: source ~/.bashrc    is it different?
[14:02] <solderblob> Crypto_, what about vim? nano?
[14:02] <solderblob> sudo nano grub
[14:02] <solderblob> nano whatever
[14:03] <recon_tv> anos, you could add a custom launcher , nautilus /my/desired/dir
[14:03] <solderblob> /etc/default/grub I think, no?
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> zastaph: I use this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/995855/
[14:04] <solderblob> Crypto_, edit GRUB_DEFAULT=3
[14:04] <solderblob> GRUB_DEFAULT=1
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> zastaph: you can add to the file as you want to add more folders, in Quantal the bookmarks list makes that list up (dead handy)
[14:04] <solderblob> or whatever it should be
[14:05] <solderblob> Crypto_, then sudo update-grub
[14:05] <solderblob> after you save
[14:05] <Crypto_> done, thanks!
[14:05] <solderblob> np
[14:06] <zastaph> ActionParsnip, alias is the same.. but what puzzles me is that my #automatically do an ls after each cd... cd() {} function isn't active before I manually do source .bashrc
[14:06] <zastaph> ActionParsnip, but my aliases are loaded properly even before i manually source
[14:09] <zastaph> yes my .bashrc is loaded
[14:09] <zastaph> but the function has to be sourced for it to be active
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> zastaph: do you have a ~/.profile with an if statement in it?
[14:10] <solderblob> quiet in here
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> zastaph: like this one: http://paste.ubuntu.com/995868/
[14:12] <kayden_kross> Hi, i am getting lot of gtk errors like this
[14:12] <kayden_kross> (gedit:6977): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: /build/buildd/glib2.0-2.32.1/./gobject/gsignal.c:2455: signal `child-removed' is invalid for instance `0xd238d0'
[14:12] <nischay> pls help about ICS NAT IPMASQ in ubuntu 12.04 i just want to share my share my internet ppp0 with my eth0 networkhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/995851/
[14:12] <kayden_kross> i am using ubuntu with latest update
[14:12] <solderblob> I have gnome-panel installed.  To login, I chose Classic at login.  IF I install gnome-shell, will that affect my gnome-panel settings?
[14:12] <zastaph> ActionParsnip, yes
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> kayden_kross: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc; uname -a
[14:13] <solderblob> kayden_kross, you get those errors when?
[14:13] <kayden_kross> everytime i run some software
[14:13] <kayden_kross> like gedit
[14:13] <kayden_kross> from terminal
[14:13] <kayden_kross> of software-center
[14:13] <kayden_kross> *or
[14:14] <solderblob> does the program start?
[14:14] <solderblob> or fail?
[14:14] <kayden_kross> yes it starts but
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> kayden_kross: can you run my command, please, what is output?
[14:14] <kayden_kross> with wierd colors
[14:14] <kayden_kross> oneiric
[14:14] <kayden_kross> Linux ubuntu 3.0.0-17-generic #30-Ubuntu SMP Thu Mar 8 20:45:39 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[14:15] <kayden_kross> here is the output of your command ^^^^
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> kayden_kross: if you make a new user and run the same, is it the same?
[14:15] <kayden_kross> how to make a new user
[14:15] <kayden_kross> you mean new account
[14:15] <israel__> kayden_kross: useradd
[14:16] <israel__> useradd name
[14:16] <solderblob> or adduser
[14:16] <solderblob> or, there is a gui tool, i would use that
[14:16] <sk1special> hey i just need to know the default number that = clicking the scroll wheel on a mouse. id assume its 3?  ( i know lame q sorry )
[14:16] <kayden_kross> i installed gimp
[14:16] <kayden_kross> before that it was working fine
[14:16] <solderblob> kayden_kross, there is a gui tool to add users, Im not sure where it is in 12.04
[14:17] <solderblob> you could use adduser though
[14:17] <szerzetes> hi! I have a RTK DVB-T tuner, but i coudn't use :$
[14:17] <solderblob> adduser newuser
[14:17] <solderblob> sudo
[14:17] <szerzetes> can somebody help me?
[14:18] <solderblob> szerzetes, did you install tvtime?
[14:18] <israel__> users-admin
[14:18] <szerzetes> what is tvtime?
[14:18] <recon_tv> szerzetes:  what tuner software are you using
[14:18] <solderblob> israel__, not in 12.04
[14:18] <Un_Bagels> HELP! I ran the latest updates, and now my Displays option won't let me set a resolution beyond 1024
[14:18] <solderblob> szerzetes, a tv player
[14:18] <szerzetes> I try to vlc, but i don't find my device
[14:18] <solderblob> sudo apt-get install tvtime
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> Un_Bagels: what video chip do you use?
[14:19] <Un_Bagels> I think it's a GeForce
[14:19] <solderblob> or, apt-cache search tvtime
[14:19] <szerzetes> I'm try it
[14:19] <Un_Bagels> ActionParsnip, ^
[14:19] <solderblob> szerzetes, do you see it in lspci?
[14:19] <solderblob> $ lspci
[14:19] <szerzetes> in lsusb
[14:19] <israel__> solderblob: ok didn't know
[14:19] <szerzetes> it's an usb device
[14:19] <solderblob> israel__, me neither
[14:20] <kayden_kross> how to change user
[14:20] <solderblob> szerzetes, will be honest with you, usbtv tuners are a pain on linux.  haz you got it to work before on linux?
[14:20] <solderblob> kayden_kross, log out, log back in
[14:20] <solderblob> I would I mean
[14:20] <solderblob> kayden_kross, but technically, su username
[14:21] <szerzetes> don't know, is an noname tuner, i get a cd, with windows base resording program
[14:21] <alfatau> hello, i just installed ubuntu 12.04 on my notebook. Because my name is made of 3 words, it can't be entirely displayed on login screen. is there a way to "enlarge" the user selector width to be able to display my entire name?
[14:21] <solderblob> szerzetes, what does lspci say about it?
[14:21] <solderblob> can you paste...
[14:21] <nischay> pls help me about IPMASQ and NAT in ubuntu 12.04 just want to share my internet ppp0 with my eth0 network i do my best but find no luck i want a permanent solution that servive after reboot http://paste.ubuntu.com/995851/
[14:21] <Zentaur> hi everybody
[14:21] <solderblob> ohai
[14:21] <delac> nonblocking way to get state of wwan (3G connection) for use in bash script?
[14:22] <kgenozuke> สวัสดีครับ
[14:22] <kgenozuke> ใครเป็นคนไทยบ้าง ?
[14:22] <solderblob> shalom
[14:22] <Zentaur> i'm installing 12.04 right now in a raid1
[14:22] <Un_Bagels> ActionParsnip, GeForce.  but i would have to open my case, i forget what version no
[14:22] <karthick87> I am going to install ubuntu 12.04 in all the new systems in my office. can some suggest me some good partition schema? Its 2GB RAM & 250 GB HDD..
[14:22] <solderblob> Karmaon, dualboot?
[14:22] <kayden_kross> soderblob: it says no protocol specified
[14:23] <solderblob> kayden_kross, did you logout and login?
[14:23] <Zentaur> when i get to the partitioning screen in the 12.04 installation i think it's quite strange
[14:23] <szerzetes> lspci say lot of things, but tuner not
[14:23] <kayden_kross> i used su
[14:23] <solderblob> Zentaur, dual boot?
[14:23] <Zentaur> it recognizes two disks
[14:23] <Zentaur> yesit's dual boot too
[14:23] <solderblob> kayden_kross, I think you need to logout, I dont think you can launch gui apps when you su, not sure though
[14:23] <nischay> hello pls help me :((
[14:23] <kayden_kross> ok
[14:23] <szerzetes> ops.... i installed tvtime, and w_scan can scan chanels
[14:24] <Zentaur> could anybody help me with the installation?
[14:25] <tailf> anyone know why a command such as "xrandr --output HDMI3 --primary" would execute in a terminal but not work if run in crontab?
[14:25] <ikonia> Zentaur: what's the issue ?
[14:25] <solderblob> Zentaur, there is a little slider thing that shows you windows on the left and ubuntu on the right, you can adjust that, 250 gb is fine
[14:25] <ikonia> tailf: crontab does not have your environment setup
[14:25] <ikonia> tailf: eg: when you run it's managing YOUR enviornment, when crontab does it, it's no-ones
[14:25] <solderblob> Zentaur, you can also do this http://ur1.ca/99qm3
[14:25] <solderblob> the slider is easier
[14:25] <solderblob> imo
[14:26] <tailf> ikonia: ah, ok. does that mean i should somehow set up an environment with crontab?
[14:26] <Zentaur> ikonia:  i have two disks as raid1
[14:26] <ikonia> tailf: not really, why are you trying to run that as cron
[14:26] <karthick87> I am going to install ubuntu 12.04 in all the new systems in my office. can some suggest me some good partition schema? Its 2GB RAM & 250 GB HDD..
[14:26] <sasa_vu> has anyone trouble with Synaptic and download speed today? Very very slow...
[14:26] <szerzetes> solderblob, which program do you use to watch tuner?
[14:26] <solderblob> Zentaur, a video howto http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ek2pdr4nGbc
[14:26] <Un_Bagels> HELP! I ran the latest updates, and now my Displays option won't let me set a resolution beyond 1024
[14:27] <ikonia> Zentaur: so what's the problem
[14:27] <solderblob> szerzetes, tvtime, which is why I suggested it
[14:27] <ikonia> karthick87: partition schema is personal to you
[14:27] <tailf> ikonia: i just want my right monitor to be set as the primary but on reboot my computer always sets the left one. thus i wanted to run that with @reboot in crontab so i could have the right monitor as primary without having to run a command manually each time
[14:27] <solderblob> Kartagis, the ram is fine
[14:27] <ikonia> tailf: can you not hardcode this into the xorg.conf ?
[14:27] <szerzetes> I see, thax! :)
[14:27] <Zentaur> the problem is that the partitioning screen shows the partitions twice
[14:27] <ikonia> Zentaur: what type of raid is it
[14:28] <Zentaur> raid 1
[14:28] <ikonia> solderblob: can you stop dishing out random advice to people and actually try to listen to the problems
[14:28] <tailf> ikonia: i guess i could give that a go. i wasn't really sure on the most efficient solution
[14:28] <ikonia> Zentaur: is it hardware/software/fakeraid ?
[14:28] <solderblob> ikonia, piss off, I am listen, thank you
[14:28] <ikonia> tailf: if it was my machine, that' show I'd do it, hardcode my displsy settings
[14:28] <solderblob> ikonia, is right, its a personal choice, chose how much you want for linux and it will do the partition stuff for you with the space you give it.
[14:28] <ikonia> solderblob: drop the language/attitude
[14:28] <Zentaur> hardware (as i always made) :)
[14:28] <solderblob> ikonia, drop the advice than,
[14:28] <paissad> hello guys,i would like to know whether or not it is possible to automate the installation of "phpmyadmin" for example by doing something like this   "apt-get install phpmyadmin -y" | cat <<"eof" "yes eof"  something like that
[14:28] <solderblob> dishing, psh
[14:28] <ikonia> solderblob: it wasn't advice - I'm telling you to do it
[14:29] <solderblob> Im sayin no
[14:29] <ikonia> Zentaur: is it hardware on a motherboard, or a seperate command
[14:29] <paissad> i have to write the command into a script, so i don't want to do manual stuffs
[14:29] <Dr_Willis> paissad:  why do you need the eof stuff?
[14:29] <israel__> paissad: you can do it with a script
[14:29] <karthick87> ikonia: For a good working system.. 1GB boot, 2GB Swap & Remaining root / .. is this ok ?
[14:29] <paissad> israel__: ok,  would you like to give me the command if ever you know it, please :
[14:29] <ikonia> karthick87: 1gb boot is waayyy too big,
[14:30] <ikonia> karthick87: I've never run a /boot larger than 200mb
[14:30] <Zentaur> it is hardware motherboard
[14:30] <JuggaloXX> hello, would any one be able to point me in the right direction to get usb 3.0 working on 12.04 LTS. everything works but my usb 3.0. i can see the hub in lsusb but ti does not detect anything plugged into it.
[14:30] <ikonia> Zentaur: ok, so that's most likley not hardware raid but a technology called "fake raid"
[14:30] <Dr_Willis> i got a /boot/ thats several gb.. but thats because its holding several ISO files of other disrtos for testing. ;)
[14:30] <zykotick9> karthick87: barring RAID or other special filesystem requirements, why have a separate /boot at all?
[14:31] <Dr_Willis> JuggaloXX:  for my system - usb3 works fine. ;()
[14:31] <ikonia> Zentaur: do you have any other OS on this machine at this time ?
[14:31] <ikonia> Zentaur: eg: do you have windows installed using raid1
[14:31] <Zentaur> yes i have dual boot with win
[14:31] <kayden_kross> (gedit:2066): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: /build/buildd/glib2.0-2.32.1/./gobject/gsignal.c:2455: signal `child-removed' is invalid for instance `0xf258c0'
[14:31] <ikonia> Zentaur: this could be a problem I'm sorry to say
[14:31] <JuggaloXX> Dr_Willis, i realize they work for some but not others. i have a new Elietebook 8560p here, now reading the reviews usb 3.0 was reported to work fine on 11.10. so i assumed 12.04 LTS would work
[14:31] <ikonia> Zentaur: fake raid on Linux is a very poor supported technology
[14:32] <kayden_kross> Hi i am getting this error
[14:32] <kayden_kross> (gedit:2066): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: /build/buildd/glib2.0-2.32.1/./gobject/gsignal.c:2455: signal `child-removed' is invalid for instance `0xf258c0'
[14:32] <ikonia> Zentaur: a lot of the fake raid controllers just don't work
[14:32] <ikonia> karthick87: what areyou trying to do ?
[14:32] <Zentaur> it was no problem with suse or ubuntu 11.10
[14:32] <ikonia> Zentaur: that's interesting, so you've had it working wiht 11.10, that's a good sign
[14:32] <kayden_kross> also this
[14:32] <kayden_kross> (gedit:2066): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error: nautilus.css:56:22: Not using units is deprecated. Assuming 'px'.
[14:32] <Un_Bagels> HELP is there any way to just roll back my latest update? My NVidia driver broke, and now my monitor is all out of whack, can't change the resolution.  Have Pastebin if you can help
[14:32] <Un_Bagels> I have a pastebin
[14:32] <karthick87> ikonia: How about swap ?
[14:33] <kayden_kross> Can somebody help
[14:33] <kayden_kross> ?
[14:33] <kayden_kross> ?
[14:33] <ikonia> karthick87: are you planning to hibernate
[14:34] <Un_Bagels> ActionParsnip, you still there?  I have a pastebin
[14:34] <Zentaur> don't worry i'll reinstall 11.10 just to see how th partitionin screen looked like
[14:34] <JuggaloXX> i see that it sees it as a usb 3 device in dmesg. [  512.267575] usb 4-1: new SuperSpeed USB device number 4 using xhci_hcd
[14:34] <karthick87> ikonia: no
[14:34] <Dr_Willis> JuggaloXX:  there was some big kernel changes between the 2.
[14:34] <JuggaloXX> however i cannot find it to mount it. the same drive and ports work on windows
[14:34] <ikonia> karthick87: just use the same size as your ram
[14:35] <kayden_kross> (gedit:2066): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error: gtk-widgets.css:1854:24: Not using units is deprecated. Assuming 'px'.
[14:35] <nischay> help me pls :(
[14:35] <JuggaloXX> Dr_Willis, yeah im beginning to think its a kernel issue. ive tried a few upstream ones, they dont seem to help me. but do help others.
[14:35] <Dr_Willis> kayden_kross:  warnings are normally not fatle.
[14:35] <Dr_Willis> fatele.. err.. deadly. ;)
[14:35] <kayden_kross> Dr_Willis: the colours that i get are wierd
[14:35] <kayden_kross> pale yellow on white
[14:36] <Dr_Willis> kayden_kross:  colors of what?
[14:36] <kayden_kross> colour of gedit font
[14:36] <Dr_Willis> Hmm. even the ppa's seem slow today.
[14:36] <kayden_kross> there are a lot of errors like this
[14:36] <kayden_kross> let me paste them on pastebin
[14:36] <Karmaon> no
[14:37] <nyuszika7h> Hi, I heard the new Xorg breaks audible beep (PC speaker). Is there any way to fix this?
[14:37] <Dr_Willis> warnings are not really errors.. but id say make a new user. see if they have the same issue kayden_kross
[14:37] <kayden_kross> i made a new user as told by solderblob
[14:37] <kayden_kross> but still i get the same errors
[14:38] <Dr_Willis> nyuszika7h:  the system/pcspkr  beeping has been disabled by default i thought in ubuntu and X for several releaes.. - i do recall someone in here the other day fighting to turn OFF the system bell.
[14:39] <kayden_kross> please see this
[14:39] <maxo> Hi, when I try to ssh to another machine, I get: "Too many identities in authentication reply: 3080"  . I've googled the error but literally can't find anything about it other than references to it in the openssh code. Does anyone know what this error means?
[14:39] <kayden_kross> http://pastebin.com/2JwNWkAb
[14:39] <Dr_Willis> nyuszika7h:  You may want to check askubuntu.com to see if anyone has some postings on the topic. Personally i always disable that beeping.
[14:39] <nyuszika7h> Ok
[14:39] <kayden_kross> Dr_Willis : please have a look at this
[14:39] <kayden_kross> http://pastebin.com/2JwNWkAb
[14:39] <Dr_Willis> kayden_kross:  theme parseing errros.. id say try a new theme.
[14:40] <kayden_kross> how?
[14:40] <nyuszika7h> I found the solution, I think
[14:40] <Dr_Willis> select a differnt theme using myunity or whatever config tools you want.
[14:40] <kayden_kross> ok
[14:40] <kayden_kross> and thanks for your time Dr_Willis
[14:41] <Dr_Willis> wowsers - downloading from a ppa at --> 5,303 B/s
[14:42] <nischay> Dr_Willis pls help me
[14:42] <Dr_Willis> nischay:  not noticed you state a problem.. but im also babysitting...
[14:43] <nischay> just trying to find someone to help me it is long wating time here channel is so busy
[14:43] <nyuszika7h> `sudo modprobe pcspkr' didn't work
[14:43] <nyuszika7h> Nor did `xset b on'
[14:44] <Dr_Willis> nyuszika7h:  i was thinking ther ewas some differnt *pcspkr* module out there also. it was mentioned yesterday. you could check the logs.
[14:44] <Dr_Willis> nyuszika7h:  also test if beeping works from the console - so X is not messing with it.
[14:44] <nischay> Need some help about NAT MASQ implemenatioin in 12.04 so i can share my ppp0 to my eth0 http://paste.ubuntu.com/995890/
[14:44] <Dr_Willis> nischay:  last i messed with that was by following the Ip-masquerading howto.. like 7+ yrs ago.
[14:45] <Dr_Willis> !ics
[14:45] <Dr_Willis> is all i know on the topic these days.
[14:45] <Dr_Willis> ive heard some of the firewalling gui tools can enable it with just a few clicks.
[14:45] <Un_Bagels> XRANDR can't find my display.  I have a VGA monitor attached to an NVidia GeForce max output 1600x900.  It worked yesterday, but an update broke it.  PLEASE HELP :(
[14:45] <zykotick9> nyuszika7h: verify that Beep isn't mutted or turned down in "alsamixer" as well.
[14:46] <raptor_> hi
[14:47] <raptor_> I tried the LinuxLive USB Creator 2.8.12 it only lengthed  the bootup but still I'm stuck at login screen
[14:47] <Dr_Willis> raptor_:  it only did what?
[14:47] <raptor_> increased the bootup time
[14:48] <raptor_> it is asking for a username and passowrd which I haven't set
[14:49] <zykotick9> raptor_: if it's livemedia try "ubuntu" with no password.  if it's after an install - username and password is one of the questions.
[14:49] <raptor_> I did try that
[14:51] <ZaNeIuM> if you have someone use putty to enter your box, is there a way to see what they are doing?
[14:51] <Dr_Willis> only time ive seen the live cd ask for a name/pass - was when it was a bad burn
[14:51] <gccster> guys
[14:51] <Dr_Willis> ZaNeIuM:  they are 'ssh'ing into your box. there are shells out you can use to monitor/share with them in real time.  or they could use screen. if they want you to help
[14:51] <ZaNeIuM> Dr_Willis: list a first degree
[14:52] <Dr_Willis> hmm?
[14:52] <zykotick9> Dr_Willis: i've experinced it personally on several occasions (older versions of ubuntu obviously) - it's almost felt random... when it happens i mean.
[14:52] <Un_Bagels> XRANDR can't find my display.  I have a VGA monitor attached to an NVidia GeForce max output 1600x900.  It worked yesterday, but an update broke it.  PLEASE HELP :(
[14:53] <gccster> guys i just installed ubuntu 12.04 on my laptop intel i5 with nvidia gforce 540M the problem is that the fan cpu speed is always very high and this is not normal can anybody help?
[14:53] <ZaNeIuM> Dr_Willis how would it be done, would you mind trying it?
[14:53] <Dr_Willis> gccster:  theres some known power saveing issues with some devices/chipsets. Id say check the forums and askubuntu.com for your exact make/model laptop. and they Might have some work arounds and tweaks.
[14:53] <raptor_> @<Dr_Willis> can you suggest anything else bcz ubuntu as username is not working
[14:54] <Dr_Willis> ZaNeIuM:  just a quick google search shows --> http://serverfault.com/questions/12419/monitor-an-incoming-ssh-session-in-real-time
[14:54] <Dr_Willis> raptor_:  you sure it booted the live cd and not your normal isntall?
[14:54] <gccster> Dr_Willis, this is not a graphics card h/w acceleration problem?
[14:54] <satop1> are the apt-get update servers down ?
[14:54] <zykotick9> gccster: (not specific to your issue) if you have lm-sensors installed, from a terminal does "sensors" return a value for CPU FAN Speed in RPM?
[14:54] <Dr_Willis> gccster:  the last few releases of ubuntu (and the kernels) have had some known power issues with laptops.
[14:54] <Dr_Willis> satop1:  theya re real slow here.. not sure what the deal is.
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> gccster: does the i5 have the inbuilt intel GPU thing?
[14:55] <Angtagapagligt> Hey there... just installed Ask Ubuntu Lens. Got Ubuntu 11.10. But it doesn't seem to work... If I type ask ubuntu in my dash search bar there is just nothing :)
[14:55] <gccster> ActionParsnip, all i know is that it has nvidia gforce gt 540M
[14:56] <raptor_> yes with LinuxLive USB Creator 2.8.12 gave me these options 1. Run in persistent mode 2 Live mode 3 Install to disk 4. check ram or something like that etc
[14:56] <Dr_Willis> Angtagapagligt:  i click the 'ask ubuntu' button at the bottom of the   dash thing here.
[14:56] <raptor_> I selected the peresisent mode
[14:56] <Angtagapagligt> Dr_Willis: There is none :/
[14:56] <Dr_Willis> Angtagapagligt:  no idea then. Im on 12.04  here. the lens works very well
[14:57] <Dr_Willis> Angtagapagligt:  you did log out/back in after installing the lense?
[14:57] <Angtagapagligt> Dr_Willis: Nope
[14:57] <Taddle> Anybody know the name of the module for php that allows you to send emails through scripts?
[14:57] <gccster> zykotick9, i installed lm-sensors what do u want me to do
[14:57] <Angtagapagligt> Dr_Willis: Can't try this yet... :)
[14:57] <raptor_> should I try with live mode
[14:57] <Angtagapagligt> Dr_Willis: Have to copy files^^
[14:57] <zykotick9> raptor_: i've never liked persistent usb installs, i've found doing a proper install to the usb (including grub to usb) a lot more useful - then persistant installs.
[14:57] <zykotick9> gccster: in a terminal type "sensors"
[14:57] <Dr_Willis> Angtagapagligt:  i recall a lot of the unity extra stuff requires you to log out/back in for them to start working
[14:58] <raptor_> how do you do a grub to USB ?
[14:58] <gccster> zykotick9, acpitz-virtual-0
[14:58] <gccster> Adapter: Virtual device
[14:58] <gccster> temp1:        +63.0°C  (crit = +99.0°C
[14:58] <gccster> i think this is high already
[14:58] <zykotick9> !paste | gccster
[14:58] <Angtagapagligt> Dr_Willis: Ah okay... I'll try this in half an hour ... Many thanks!
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> gccster: run:  sudo lshw -C display     does it say intel as well as nvidia?
[15:00] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: fyi, i think hybrid can also be revealed using "lspci -v | grep -i vga" (but test first ;)
[15:00] <gccster> ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.com/hu24JNeG
[15:00] <Un_Bagels> gccster ActionParsnip et al, I think you guys are talking about the same problem I have?
[15:00] <raptor_> let me try with live mode
[15:00] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: gccster intel & nvidia ;)
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> joy
[15:01] <satop1> the servers are slow that might be the reason it fails
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> that hybrid junk is always a pain in Linux
[15:01] <zykotick9> gccster: could you pastebin "lscpi -v | grep -i vga" for me?
[15:01] <Dead_AssClown> i downloaded ubuntu and accidently f***ed it up...how do you re install
[15:01] <nyuszika7h> Any further ideas?
[15:01] <Dead_AssClown> burn it to a cd?
[15:01] <nyuszika7h> I don't see "beep" in alsamixer, only mic and internal mic is muted
[15:02] <Solitary7> Hey whats up everybody. Is there a chance someone can help me with this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1982911   ?
[15:02] <nyuszika7h> Beep apparently doesn't work in tty1 either
[15:02] <gccster> in wich package i get lspci?
[15:02] <nyuszika7h> (tried `beep' and `echo -en '\007'`)
[15:02] <zykotick9> gccster: no package required?
[15:03] <nyuszika7h> gccster: Tip: sudo apt-get install apt-file && sudo apt-file update && sudo apt-file search 'file'
[15:03] <Dr_Willis> nyuszika7h:  theres a way to get GRUB to play a tune also.. :) but even that dosent work on this pc..
[15:03] <zykotick9> gccster: if it's too much trouble - don't worry about it!  thanks anyway.
[15:04] <Dr_Willis> # Uncomment to get a beep at grub start
[15:04] <Dr_Willis> GRUB_INIT_TUNE="1000 334 1 334 1 0 1 334 1 0 1 261 1 334 1 0 1 392 2 0 4 196 2"
[15:04] <Dr_Willis> Thats the Mario tune. :) but it does not work on my pc either.. I think my pc has no speaker.
[15:04]  * zykotick9 has never gotten grub been to work :(  and i have several grub songs around somewhere
[15:05] <nyuszika7h> For me, beep works in Windows and in Arch (some older version)
[15:05] <zykotick9> s/been/beep/
[15:05] <OerHeks> Dr_Willis, neither have that tune working, with pc speaker or soundcard
[15:05] <fabi_an> at least one of the official hashes here seems wrong: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[15:05] <nyuszika7h> zykotick9: I said beep, not been
[15:05] <gccster> zykotick9, http://pastebin.com/5W4fwU3i
[15:05] <Shanth> hi there
[15:05] <Dr_Willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/19906/beep-in-shell-script-not-working
[15:05] <vg-loc> hey
[15:06] <fabi_an> oh
[15:06] <fabi_an> i'm so dumb
[15:06] <vg-loc> dr_wills
[15:06] <sharko> hello is there a way that i can get php to work
[15:06] <NcA> ./*.php ?
[15:06] <SolarisBoy> cd
[15:07] <vg-loc> guys can u help in getting themes and help install them ??
[15:07] <zykotick9> gccster: thanks!  ActionParsnip so lspci with the -v will show both cards - no sudo or lshw required.
[15:07] <sharko> hello is there a way that i can get php to work as i downloaded the php softwere and now i cant open it
[15:07] <SolarisBoy> sorry
[15:07] <Solitary7> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1982911
[15:07] <vg-loc> hello can any one help me ??
[15:07] <gccster> zykotick9, is there any chance to fix this?
[15:07] <vg-loc> :\
[15:08] <SolarisBoy> sharko: what do you mean get it to work? how are you trying to make it work? or do you expect it to work?
[15:08] <Dr_Willis> vg-loc:  i just use themes from the repos. or the webupd8 sites ppa's
[15:08] <NcA> sharko: you need to be a bit more specific
[15:08] <vg-loc> can u give me the link
[15:08] <NcA> sharko: did you install it via aptitude?
[15:08] <sharko> SolarisBoy i used sudo get-app instail
[15:08] <SolarisBoy> sharko: ok - and what exactly are you looking to happen now?
[15:09] <Dr_Willis> vg-loc:   the sites name is 'webupd8'
[15:09] <Dr_Willis> vg-loc:  they got a ppa. with some nice themes in it
[15:09] <SolarisBoy> sharko: php is a language generally used to produce dynamic web content
[15:09] <zykotick9> gccster: get it working you mean?  ya.  (i've never had this h/w so don't really know the specifics) but you need to install bumblebee and or research more on nvidia-optimus support in linux
[15:09] <vg-loc> and how to install them ??
[15:09] <Dr_Willis> vg-loc:  since its a PPA.. you use the normal package manager tools....
[15:09] <SolarisBoy> sharko: are you running php in some webserver which is configured to execute PHP files and have php files in your web root and are seeing an issue?
[15:09] <gccster> zykotick9, im sure its hardware acceleration problem
[15:10] <SolarisBoy> sharko: else PHP generally doesn't do anything by itself..
[15:10] <vg-loc> do i need a ware to install it or something ?
[15:10] <zykotick9> gccster: i think, once you have bumblebee properly working the nvidia driver starts to work properly (ie acceleration)
[15:10] <sharko> well SolarisBoy it to open in terminator and i dont have one as im working on someing for a mates server he just wnats me to code
[15:10] <gccster> zykotick9, where can i find bubmblebe?
[15:10] <Dr_Willis> vg-loc:  You may want to spend some time learning some more ubuntu basics. you add the ppa, the items appear in the normal software center/synaptic/apt-get tools.. same as all the other apps do.
[15:11] <Xeli> aaaargh pulseaudio ;((
[15:11] <SolarisBoy> sharko: you dont open the php binary, it interprets php code
[15:11] <zykotick9> gccster: no idea ;)
[15:11] <Dr_Willis> vg-loc:  the webupd8 pages detail exactly how to install the themes using apt-get
[15:11] <gccster> zykotick9, do u know what is it?
[15:11] <sharko> SolarisBoy ok then how to i get it to run then
[15:11] <SolarisBoy> sharko: in a browser
[15:11] <SolarisBoy> sharko: in a webserver rather - and view it in a browser
[15:12] <vg-loc> Dr_willis : thnq for the help
[15:12] <vg-loc> i'm done with the manual !!!
[15:12] <vg-loc> what else should i learn ?
[15:12] <zykotick9> gccster: sorry i've shared all i know about hybrid graphics with you already - so good luck.  someone else who knows more would be able to help you better.
[15:12] <SolarisBoy> sharko: generally (maybe not so much now) people use apache - as such they enable mod_php
[15:12] <raptor22> Hi
[15:12] <sharko> SolarisBoy so theres no way that i can code with out a server
[15:12] <gccster> zykotick9, ok thanx for anyone needs it i found IT https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[15:12] <SolarisBoy> sharko: you can code all you like
[15:13] <raptor22> I did try in live mode but still it ask for a username and passowrd
[15:13] <Dougie187> I tried to installed the binary nvidia drivers to check a performance issue. I cleaned it up and removed them and reinstalled nvidia-current, but now when I log in with unity 32 I don't get an interface. I was curious if anyone had an idea to get around this?
[15:13] <SolarisBoy> sharko: open an editor and start typing...
[15:13] <exaem> sharko: You can install php on your home server if you have linux installed
[15:13] <gccster> nvidia-optimus support
[15:13] <SolarisBoy> he has it installed
[15:13] <raptor22> I took a few screenshots though
[15:13] <exaem> Then why is he complaining?
[15:13] <SolarisBoy> i think hes looking for it to do something on its own..
[15:13] <NcA> he doesn't understand what php is.?
[15:13] <sharko> exaem nvm
[15:13] <SolarisBoy> sharko: if you want to run a php script - without a browser - look at php --help
[15:13] <sharko> NcA i know what it is
[15:14] <SolarisBoy> you can use -f and point to a file
[15:14] <SolarisBoy> but thats about it..
[15:14] <sharko> i got it thanks
[15:14] <sharko> :D
[15:14] <SolarisBoy> generally people use it for dynamic web content as such they test it in a browser - and code it in w/e they are comfortable in - technically you DONT need it installed to code it
[15:16] <NcA> <?php\ echo "hello world"\ ?>
[15:16] <NcA> then execute
[15:16] <SolarisBoy> basically.
[15:16] <trappist> I've moved mysql's data files to a new filesystem, updated my.cnf and apparmor... when I restart the server everything becomes root-owned and all my queries say the table doesn't exist.. have I missed something?
[15:16] <ikonia> trappist: change the permisisons on the file system
[15:17] <trappist> ikonia: I just realized chown does nothing... the fs must be something other than I thought
[15:17] <ldz420> what do the permissions look like on the files ?
[15:17] <ikonia> trappist: what file system did you (think?) you put on it
[15:18] <trappist> I put it on a new ssd drive, and the fs is fuse
[15:18] <trappist> guess I'll deal with that
[15:18] <ikonia> trappist: fuse isn't a file system
[15:18] <ikonia> trappist: it's most likley ntfs
[15:18] <ldz420> I am trying to activate my nvidia drivers and I am getting an error message about XorgDriverHandler.enable() in the jockey.log file
[15:18] <trappist> ah right
[15:18] <ikonia> trappist: and you're mounting it through fuse
[15:19] <trappist> yeah probably
[15:19] <ikonia> trappist: that would explain the permissions problems you are seein
[15:19] <ikonia> seeing
[15:19] <trappist> yeah
[15:20] <matelot> Q: Does Compiz work under Gnome shell on 12.04 ?
[15:20] <zykotick9> matelot: no
[15:21] <matelot> zykotick9: what about G2 ?
[15:21] <SolarisBoy> trappist: did you get help?
[15:21] <zykotick9> matelot: gnome2?  of course.?
[15:22] <matelot> zykotick9: yes Gnome 2 thx
[15:22] <ikonia> matelot: keep in mind, gnome 2 is dead
[15:22] <zykotick9> matelot: RIP Gnome2 - move on ;)
[15:22] <matelot> what about Cinammon ? does compiz work there ?
[15:22] <ikonia> matelot: you'll need to talk to the mint guys on that
[15:23] <zykotick9> matelot: cinammon is ot here (i don't know btw)
[15:23] <ikonia> matelot: they will have a better idea on compatability/stability
[15:23] <matelot> so my only option  - if I must have compiz - is Unity and G2 ?
[15:24] <zykotick9> matelot: fyi i think gnome-panel (under gnome3) can do compiz?
[15:24] <ikonia> matelot: well not really gnome 2, as that's not in ubuntu any more
[15:24] <Dr_Willis> matelot:  thers emerald. but its a dead project.
[15:24] <Dr_Willis> matelot:  the webupd8 site had a guide on seting up custome compiz sessions also.
[15:24] <matelot> I can not stanf UNITY ....
[15:24] <Dr_Willis> matelot:  i find unity fine.. so whatever.. ;)
[15:24] <zykotick9> !notunity | matelot
[15:24] <AFD> hi guys
[15:25] <satop1> $ gnome-media-player ... segmentation fault ?
[15:25] <gccster> zykotick9, well i installed bumblebee is there any test where i can see if h/w acceleration is turned on?
[15:25] <zykotick9> satop1: use a better media player
[15:25] <Dr_Willis> The classic-gnome-fallback thing is also a  solution that could go away in the next release.. or may hang on for a few more.
[15:25] <AFD> I need to separate my X to have xbmc give me fullscreen correctly on my 2nd monitor from my laptop
[15:25] <AFD> can anyone help a n00b config it?
[15:25] <satop1> zykotick or fix it
[15:25] <zykotick9> gccster: i have no idea about your hardware - you now know more then me ;)  good luck man.
[15:26] <Dr_Willis> AFD:  for my nvidia card/system i can just enable twinview and it fullscreens fine on the 2nd monitor. no need for a seperate X session.
[15:26] <Dr_Willis> AFD:  so whats your chipset?
[15:26] <hapster> when wayland goes live in ubuntu, will wine gaming still be possible?
[15:26] <abdo906> can any1 help me
[15:26] <Dr_Willis> hapster:  when wayland goes live.. thers going to be so many issues.. it will be scary
[15:26] <gccster> zykotick9, sorry if i am a pain in the ass i didnt asked you about the hardware just any tests to check out the acceleration....
[15:26] <AFD> Dr_Willis: checking chipset brb
[15:26] <zykotick9> Dr_Willis: +1 on you wayland comment
[15:26] <alfatau> hello! i just installed the 12.04 ubuntu release. I've a problem with the login screen: my name is made of 3 words, but the user selection box cannot contain my entire name. Is there a way to increase that box width? thank you for your attention
[15:27] <zhang> ?
[15:27] <michael_> do you really need to use your full name?
[15:27] <abdo906> can i find any commands that can read file like PDF
[15:27] <hapster> so will ubuntu wait for at least a stable wayland release (stable in a sense that wine and most common apps will run flawlessly) or will they just go ahead and let developers adjust? haha
[15:28] <michael_> there is a doc viewer in ubuntu that reads pdfs
[15:28] <Guest48968> zm
[15:28] <zykotick9> gccster: ya, i'm not to sure what test apply for hybrid stuff sorry.  does nvidia-settings work correctly (i have no idea if it should or shouldn't)?
[15:28] <hapster> because the way I understand it is ubuntu won't have Xorg out of the box when they shift to wayland.
[15:28] <evilgeenius> Does the Ubuntu install/live CD have gparted on it?
[15:28] <abdo906> yeah i know but i need make search option for pdfs files
[15:29] <abdo906> for instance  i want to make database then search in text on these files
[15:30] <trappist> ok I corrected the original problem... moved my mysql data dirs to an ext4 fs on a new ssd, updated my.cnf and apparmor... the server starts but queries say my tables don't exist
[15:30] <vatueil> hey, what's ubuntu's stance on updating to newer firefox versions in 12.04 LTS?
[15:30] <zykotick9> hapster: if history tells us anything, ubuntu does not wait for things to be stable - "progress" is driving force (for better or worse)
[15:30] <trappist> it's all chown -R'd to mysql:mysql
[15:31] <rottik9> I am looking for some training in ubuntu, any suggestions?
[15:31] <hapster> oh I see.:( I just hope proprietary drivers can still function (on top of wayland or whatever. no to sure on the technical stuff of graphics drivers in relation to wayland/XOrg) when wayland kicks in. I still want to play blizzard games on wine.XD
[15:31] <AFD> DR_Willis: I ran hwinfo and found the chipset (I think)
[15:31] <alfatau> michael_: it's simply an appearance issue
[15:32] <abdo906> please can any1 help me how can i use man man for my thoughts
[15:32] <AFD> DR_Willis: Intel 965GM
[15:32] <pgib> Anyone have an idea on what is going on here? http://snag.gy/K2NjE.jpg
[15:33] <AFD> Dr_Willis: my chipset is Intel 965GM
[15:33] <OerHeks> pgib nothing going on, you just have a little space free,
[15:34] <pgib> Did an lvresize then an fs2resize, the capacity has increased from ~85GB to 115GB.  But it doesn't seem to have it "free"
[15:34] <trappist> show tables shows my tables, but 'select * from table_name' reports the table doesn't exist
[15:35] <OerHeks> pgib resized, and mounted again shows not the available space you expected?
[15:35] <pgib> Shows avail as 1.1GB, and used as only 79GB -- this should be closer to 72%
[15:35] <Abhijit> trappist, ask in the appropriate database channel
[15:35] <abdo906> I'm new ubutnu user can any1 help me
[15:36] <abdo906> or show me how can i deal with ubuntu
[15:36] <raptor> this is the screen where I'm struck http://imagebin.org/213020
[15:36] <trappist> ah, dmesg shows me this: mysql post-start process (11960) terminated with status 1
[15:37] <pgib> OerHeks, Right, I resized it to 115GB. The gnome applet seems to recognize this on the "Volume" line.  Yet, it says Total capacity: 84.6 GB.  Hmm, perhaps the fs2resize failed somehow?
[15:38] <trappist> where can I find the post-start script for mysql?
[15:39] <OerHeks> pgib, i guess so, what fs2resize command did you use?
[15:40] <NcA> trappist: what are you needing a script for exactly?
[15:40] <trappist> NcA: the post-start script is failing for mysql, want to see what could be going wrong
[15:41] <trappist> so I'm looking for the existing script, not trying to write a new one
[15:41] <kanliot>  hey i wrote a governance document for lubuntu, can someone please give me some feedback or corrections?
[15:41] <kanliot>   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/tempgovernance
[15:41] <AFD> can anyone help with my fullscreen issue on xbmc please?
[15:42] <AFD> splits image over both screens
[15:42] <qawsedrf> how do install an older version of a software from apt-get ?
[15:42] <AFD> I have Intel 965GM GPU
[15:43] <mattwj2002> wow there are a ton of people in there 1640 of us!
[15:43] <mattwj2002> hi all!
[15:43] <mattwj2002> *here
[15:44] <mattwj2002> I need a good link for usb 3.0 controllers for ubuntu
[15:44] <mattwj2002> !hardware
[15:45] <dh33p4n> hi, I wanna learn about linux commands, can any one point me to some good website..
[15:45] <Adil> someone can help me to configure my modem OT-X080C on Ubuntu 12.04??
[15:45] <ikonia> dh33p4n: tldp.org
[15:46] <dh33p4n> ikonia, thanks!
[15:46] <invisiblek> anyone else having problems with the mirror being really slow? (us)
[15:46] <mattwj2002> guys my computer is really slow
[15:46] <Adil> someone can help me to configure my modem OT-X080C on Ubuntu 12.04
[15:46] <Adil> someone can help me to configure my modem OT-X080C on Ubuntu 12.04
[15:47] <ikonia> Adil: please stop
[15:47] <ikonia> Adil: spamming will only get you ignored
[15:47] <melkor> wow, instaling latex is almost as large as the operating system.
[15:47] <Adil> so help me ikonia
[15:47] <ikonia> melkor: it is a big component, sure
[15:47] <OerHeks> mattwj2002, see http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/catalog/ although any usb3 should be supported fine
[15:47] <mattwj2002> thanks OerHeks
[15:48] <bigpapa> hello all, can someone please help me make my 2 amd hd 6850's play nice and let me have dual monitors?
[15:48] <mattwj2002> uploading my music collection to Google Music is killing upload speed! :)
[15:48] <Adil> you don't mind guys?
[15:49] <VirtualBlackness> "Help me or I will make it difficult to help other people"   What kind of person thinks this is how life should be handled?
[15:49] <prayingprince> hello.  I just installed 12.04 on its own partition.  I used to run 11.10 in VM.  I can not get wireless towork.  when i type "lspci | grep -i wireless" nothing comes up
[15:49] <ikonia> VirtualBlackness: they are the people who won't get help
[15:49] <satop1> "Help me or I will make it difficult to help other people"  LOL
[15:50] <tommyfun> there's a great latex plugin for eclipse
[15:50] <Adil> someone can help me to configure my modem OT-X080C on Ubuntu 12.04 plzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[15:50] <ikonia> Adil: final warning - stop
[15:50] <ikonia> Adil: ask a question, wait for a response
[15:50] <tommyfun> Texlipse
[15:50] <Adil> ikonia who will help me?
[15:51] <ikonia> Adil: someone who is not annoyed by your spamming and who knows the answer
[15:51] <melkor> Adil: you problem sounds pretty specific, you might have to find a forum, post a message and wait.
[15:51] <mattwj2002> OerHeks: are you still here?
[15:51] <alankila> Adil: nobody if nobody has any idea about that hardware. We just can't afford to have people constantly spamming the same message every few minutes.
[15:52] <VirtualBlackness> !patience | Adil
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> Adil: could help if you say how it connects to the system...
[15:52] <abdo906> what z man man ?
[15:52] <lund> Adil, what type of modem is it, do you need help to configure it at a driver level, or dont know how to configure for your ISP etc
[15:52] <VirtualBlackness> !details | Adil
[15:52] <mattwj2002> OerHeks: I found that the NEC Corporation uPD720200 USB 3.0 Host Controller is prefect
[15:53] <Adil> i'm not a spammer, i want just help, i don't have connection on my Ubunto! i write many msg on forums but no one answer!!! a friend requiest me your site and i'm on it now
[15:53] <mattwj2002> is that a chipset?
[15:53] <OerHeks> mattwj2002, oke, buy one
[15:53] <rly> I need to download 4GB to upgrade Ubuntu; isn't that a bit excessive for an upgrade?
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> Adil: still not answered my question....
[15:54] <OerHeks> rly depends on all the installed packages. no, it is not excessive.
[15:54] <VirtualBlackness> "I'm not abusive, I am just punching you in the face because I need something"   please give details, and be patient.
[15:54] <ikonia> rly: no, or you wouldn't need to
[15:54] <Adil> my modem is OT-X080C Ubuntu doesn't detect it, i set configuration to #777 and i gave Name of user and password, but no connexion!!
[15:54] <ZaNeIuM> im very new to ubuntu, how do i get this to install ( i've dl it to a folder) "MarballOdyssey-Shareware-1.3.1-Linux-x86-Install"
[15:55] <rly> Does Ubuntu use binary diffs for real upgrades?
[15:55] <mattwj2002> OerHek I figured it out
[15:55] <ikonia> rly: no, not for a distro upgrade
[15:55] <mattwj2002> thanks ... I owe you a beer!
[15:55] <mattwj2002> :)
[15:55] <melkor> Adil: when the modem is plugged in does the light flash properly?
[15:55] <prayingprince> I don't want to pull an Adil, but has anyone seen my question?
[15:55] <melkor> prayingprince: that is probably worse.
[15:56] <rly> Does the upgrade work? Or have there been lots of problems?
[15:56] <prayingprince> Ok, sorry
[15:56] <ikonia> rly: it works
[15:56] <lund> prayingprince, missed it
[15:56] <VirtualBlackness> No prayingprince, please repeat.
[15:56] <benjaimen_> im a 36 year old 80s computer nerd with questionable social skills, apple IIe was the first real friend, but my commodore schoolmates had what i wanted, now im using joli os cuz i tried to compress my drive in windows 7... starting to get used to it, i might stick with it, but even though linux is supposed to be so stab;le, i have just as many occasional 'having to just restart' issues
[15:56] <prayingprince> hello.  I just installed 12.04 on its own partition.  I used to run 11.10 in VM.  I can not get wireless towork.  when i type "lspci | grep -i wireless" nothing comes up
[15:56] <Adil> Melkor, when the modem is plugged  the light flash properly
[15:56] <Shanth> how long will it take for apt-get update
[15:56] <VirtualBlackness> prayingprince: try just looking through all of lspci.
[15:56] <ikonia> prayingprince: the virtual hardware does not have a virtual wireless device
[15:56] <VirtualBlackness> prayingprince: they do not always identify with the word wireless.
[15:57] <ikonia> prayingprince: only the physical hardware will have wireless devices
[15:57] <melkor> Adil: can you go to the termin/cmd prompt and type "lsusb | grep 12d1" ?
[15:57] <rly> ikonia: did Canonical do anything to improve QA in the past year?
[15:57] <VirtualBlackness> prayingprince: listen to ikonia... I just was commenting on the specific grep
[15:57] <ikonia> benjaimen_: do you have an ubuntu question ?
[15:57] <ikonia> rly: no more/less than before
[15:58] <melkor> Shanth: unless you are on dial-up it should take less than 10 minutes.
[15:58] <prayingprince> Does this look right the right thing:  0c:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 01)
[15:58] <rly> ikonia: what kind of infrastructure do they have for QA?
[15:58] <dlentz> prayingprince, yes
[15:58] <ikonia> rly: no idea
[15:58] <OerHeks> rly check askubuntu.com, improved forum
[15:58] <Shanth> i'm using DSL and for first time runing apt-get update
[15:58] <Adil> Melkor: no i don't try it yet!  just give me the possible solutions, cause i've to restart my computer to enter on Ubunto! Now i'm on windows
[15:59] <Guest4180> hi everyone
[15:59] <melkor> Shanth: apt-get update doesn't take long it just d/loads package information.
[15:59] <Shanth> its seems to be going more than an hour
[15:59] <VirtualBlackness> !b43 | yes prayingprince... that is it.
[15:59] <prayingprince> ok, thanks!
[15:59] <melkor> adil http://theopenhelp.com/2010/10/how-to-setup-tata-photon-plus-on-ubuntu.html
[15:59] <alankila> I have b43 on laptop. The closed driver worked with that one, the open driver never did
[15:59] <TheAlliedFleet> Does anyone else have problems with furius ISO mount?
[15:59] <Guest4180> hey this is great am on mirc from my mac yuppyyyyyy
[16:00] <ikonia> TheAlliedFleet: mounting an ISO has no issues
[16:00] <ikonia> TheAlliedFleet: if you have a specific issue, please say
[16:00] <alankila> open driver crashed the box in about 5 minutes forcing a reboot
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> Adil: run:  lsusb    copy the text and make a pastebin so we can read it, also add the output of:  lsb_release -a
[16:00] <Adil> Melkor : thank you!
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> Guest4180: ok....
[16:00] <satop1> adil did you visit the website of your hardware for support
[16:00] <TheAlliedFleet> When I mount an iso I can't see anything within the mountpoint ikonia
[16:00] <Adil> ActionParsnip: i will note your msg thank you too
[16:01] <AFD> can anyone tell me how to separate my x sessions when dual screening from a laptop?
[16:01] <Cnythnk> hm I never worked with python (it's not for me, just hosting it) but is there anyway you could find out the "service name" for a running python script e.g "example.py"?
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> AFD: using what GPU?
[16:01] <ikonia> AFD: define two xsessions in the xorg.conf
[16:01] <Emmanuel_Chanel> Hello!
[16:01] <bigpapa> can anyone help me with getting both of my amd hd 6850s working so i can have dual desktops? it sees the main adapter fine but maybe cause the other is the same it can't?
[16:01] <ikonia> TheAlliedFleet: how are you mounting it ?
[16:01] <AFD> ActionParsnip: Intel 965GM
[16:02] <melkor> Shanth: you can cancel an update and try again.
[16:02] <smithw> Hi, I'm having wi-fi woes. I have 8GB RAM, so I installed 12.04 64-bit. My wireless is not automatically picked by Ubuntu, so on to ndiswrapper. The 64-bit version of my card's window driver makes calls to functions package-ndiswrapper don't have (IoWMI family). So I compiled ndiswrapper from SVN, which has those functions implemented, but now it fails with "ioremap failed", and I don't know where to go now.
[16:02] <melkor> Shanth: you can see how much it is d/loading, there is not much.
[16:02] <stars69> hi, is there away i can set desktop sharing application on auto start when system started?
[16:02] <TheAlliedFleet> I choose the disk image within furius and click the mount button. Does (fuse) (loop) (Md5) and (SHA1) have anything to do with it ikonia
[16:02] <melkor> smithw: Who told you to install ndiswrapper?
[16:03] <Shanth> how much  more after Get:23
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> stars69: add a startup item to run the command you run
[16:03] <smithw> melkor, I've used it before (on other computers). Also, I don't think there is a native driver for my wireless card (RTL8723AE).
[16:04] <Shanth> do internet connection necessary while installing ubuntu 12.04
[16:04] <melkor> smithw: I don't think you need ndiswrapper.
[16:04] <melkor> Shanth: no
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> Shanth: they aren't necessary, no
[16:05] <TheAlliedFleet> Nevermind ikonia, I tried gmount isntead, it worked
[16:05] <VirtualBlackness> AFD: do you have two specific GPUs?
[16:05] <smithw> melkor, if there is a better solution, I'm all ears. I'd rather have a native driver anyway. However, evidently b43 isn't that driver...
[16:05] <Shanth> but , i think due to that reason apt-get update is taking much time for running first time
[16:06] <stars69> ActionParsnip, what is the cmd to add startup item bud?
[16:06] <AFD> VirtualBlackness: just 1 I think
[16:06] <AFD> Intel 965GM
[16:06] <L3top> AFD lspci | grep VGA | wc -l
[16:06] <L3top> what is the number
[16:06] <AFD> 1
[16:06] <melkor> smithw: I think 12.04 comes with a sufficient driver
[16:06] <ikonia> AFD: you just need to setup two seperate X servers in the xorg.conf
[16:07] <AFD> ikonia: ok I'll try it
[16:07] <aguitel> any gui to manage boot order ?
[16:07] <smithw> melkor, nope. 12.04 uses b43 by default, and it does not claim my wireless card, as reported by lshw -C network...
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> stars69: use the startup items command in dash
[16:08] <zykotick9> L3top: fyi you need "lscpi -v" to see multiple cards if it's hybrid
[16:08] <L3top> Unfortunately AFD I only know how to do that identifying and assigning the PCI busses. Nvidia has a twinview setting.
[16:08] <smithw> I haven't seem the dmesg with which b43 fail, though.
[16:08] <L3top> That is not my experience zykotick9
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> aguitel: do you want windows to be default in grub by any chance?
[16:08] <WalterN> aguitel: there is, I dont remember what its called though... lemme see if I can find it
[16:08] <L3top> Sorry zykotick9 I thought you were referring to optimus etc... you are likely correct
[16:08] <aguitel> ActionParsnip, no i have other linux os
[16:08] <zykotick9> L3top: if it's 2 or more inpendent cards the -v isn't required, only for optimus
[16:09] <AFD> L3top: Ill look in to it. thanks for the help
[16:09] <L3top> Optimus displays two zykotick9.
[16:09] <melkor> smithw: did you check this thread? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1604101
[16:10] <L3top> intel and nvidia... however there are all sorts of combinations now, intel/ati ati/ati intel/intel... I do not know how they would display, nor a single card with multiple outputs as they are on the same bus it seems.
[16:10] <zykotick9> L3top: with lscpi?  if you have the hardware you'd be the one to know!  but when asked to post lspci pastes, i often see only the intel mentioned?!
[16:10] <melkor> smithw: it looks like you can d/load and build the drivers.
[16:11] <L3top> zykotick9: I have to write detection routines, so I see them just about every day when someone is complaining my code isn't working... but I have never had an optimus that did not display both.
[16:11] <smithw> melkor, I might be missing something, but that thread is about RTL8188CE, and my wireless card is a RTL8723AE. are they compatible/should I try it anyway?
[16:11] <zykotick9> L3top: interesting, thanks.
[16:11] <bigpapa> is there away to see if ubuntu recognizes both display adapters?
[16:11] <spiritech> hello
[16:11] <stars69> ActionParsnip, thanks
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> bigpapa: sudo lshw -C display
[16:12] <spiritech> does anyone know how to turn off remember window state?
[16:12] <smithw> melkor, also the download page linked doesn't have a driver for 8723
[16:12] <zykotick9> L3top: prior to bumblebee (or other), does the video get detected differently?
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> stars69: what do you use VNC to connect to achieve, often VNC isn't needed and there are more graceful solutions
[16:12] <Kyle__> L3top: multiple cards from multiple vendors with multiple heads work in linux.  I've tried it.
[16:12] <Kyle__> And can I say multiple one more time.
[16:13] <spiritech> i run the --geometry option when openning a app from the terminal and it ignores the argument.
[16:13] <Kyle__> L3top: Mind you, it wasn't the prettiest setup, it was awhile ago, and I had to make the xorg.conf by hand :)
[16:13] <ikonia> spiritech: not all apps will use it
[16:13] <spiritech> nautilus?
[16:13] <AFD> sort of cheated and disabled the laptop monitor in the gnome-display-properties
[16:14] <spiritech> it says it does in the nautilus -h
[16:14] <satop1> mouse curosr themes ... set xfce settings , update-alternatives , gtkrc-2.0 in homedir , .Xdefault in homedir and still my mouse cursor is changing to something else when trying to resize a window ?
[16:14] <bigpapa> ActionParsnip: Ty it sees both display adapters using that command. now how do i get the other monitor to display please
[16:14] <zykotick9> satop1: are you using compiz?
[16:14] <satop1> no
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> bigpapa: the only way I can think with Intel is to make an xorg.conf. I've not used dual dispaly outside Nvidia so am not much help.
[16:14] <melkor> smithw: I think if you dload that one, and build the driver and install it you will not have an additional problem. If the driver doesn't work/isn't compatible it won't be used.
[16:15] <satop1> is there another place to set mouse cursor theme ?
[16:15] <smithw> melkor, thanks for your help, I'll try it then :)
[16:15] <Kyle__> bigpapa: if the unity/gnome panels aren't seeing it, you need to start making a custom xorg.conf, usually starting with X -configure (as root, from the command line).
[16:15] <melkor> smithw: what kernel are you using.
[16:15] <spiritech> Ikonia: i am trying to use it whit nautilus and search for files.
[16:15] <bigpapa> ActionParsnip thank you for your help, i should have bought nvidia lol
[16:16] <ikonia> spiritech: I don't know if nautilus will abide by it
[16:16] <bigpapa> Kyle do you happen to know a good how to on that? i'm a noobie linux user
[16:17] <Kyle__> bigpapa: I think if you google for multi head ubuntu X -configure it should bring you to something.
[16:17] <spiritech> all in all. i am trying to write a small script that will open two file browsers at the bottom half of the screen, a terminal and a search for files at the top half.
[16:17] <ment0s> Hello
[16:17] <bigpapa> ok ty good to have the terminalogy
[16:18] <melkor> smithw: also there are a bunch of drivers and such if you look through their page, there is even some firmware.
[16:18] <stars69> i want good remote desktop software can someone help plz?
[16:18] <L3top> zykotick9: We do not use bumblebee, I dedicate the discrete gpu because we are graphics intensive and need accelleration
[16:18] <Kyle__> stars69: To connect to remote desktops or to remote into your own desktop?
[16:18] <L3top> Kyle__: I know they work, I just haven't figured out how to auto-generate an xorg.conf using them
[16:18] <stars69> Kyle__, To connect to remote desktops
[16:19] <spiritech> stars69 i always found remmina quiet good
[16:19] <Kyle__> stars69: Actually, ubuntu comes with both, so I don't know why I asked.... I think if you click on the unity icon and type remote desktop viewer it should be right there.
[16:19] <Kyle__> stars69: Then wen it comes up, there's a drop-down to let you select vnc ssh or rdp.  If rdp doesn't show up you need to download err... holdon..lemmie think of the name.  Something like rdesktop?
[16:19] <stars69> Kyle__, those came with ubuntu are sucks ass
[16:20] <spiritech> can anyone help regarding youtube-dl?
[16:20] <Stumpy> Hello
[16:20] <ment0s> I dont know if you guys can help me.., I have 1TB NTFS Hard drive with movies etc but ubuntu is recognizing it as 3 partitions and i cant acces it. The HDD contains one big partiton NTFS which works no bother windows.. any ideas whats wrong ?
[16:20] <melkor> smithw: I don't know if the 8723 is the device you are looking for, there might be a different number you need.
[16:21] <Stumpy> I don't have access to a hard-line internet connection, I only have wireless available to me. I want to install Ubuntu 12.04, but need the restricted hardware tool to get wireless set up. How do I get around this?
[16:22] <Kyle__> stars69: For several versions the vnc viewer in there was laggy (that was a gnome problem, not ubuntu's), but always worked well enough for me.  If you want something other than that, tigervncvewer is fantastic for vnc, google it, and you can download rdesktop to give it a shot.
[16:22] <smithw> melkor, 8723 is the device according to lspci -nn (03:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. Device [10ec:8723]), but I know sometimes drivers work with multiple devices
[16:22] <L3top> If ubuntu sees three partitions, it has 3 partitions ment0s... can you pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -l with it attached please?
[16:22] <zion> Good afternoon ,my question is what is main difference between Lubuntu 12.04 and Ubuntu 12.04 with LXDE regarding performance?
[16:22] <smithw> melkor, also, when I checked Device Manager on the windows that came preinstalled with this machine, that's the model it listed
[16:22] <melkor> smithw: do you know the features of it, ie a/b/g/n single chip ... also is it a new card?
[16:23] <Wiz_KeeD> hey guys
[16:23] <Yoshimi-pink> how can i log into my wifi with command line?
[16:23] <smithw> melkor, I don't know that. What I do know is that it's apparently an hybrid wlan/bluetooth card
[16:23] <Wiz_KeeD> can anyone tell me why in ubuntu 10.04 when i type /sbin/iwconfig i don't see wlan0
[16:23] <Wiz_KeeD> and i only get eth1
[16:23] <Wiz_KeeD> even though i'm connected to a wireless network?
[16:23] <morsnowski> Yoshimi-pink, http://linux.icydog.net/wpa.php
[16:24] <Wiz_KeeD> anyone?
[16:24] <bigpapa> Hi Kyle i googled multi head displays but all i can find is for multi machines... i just have mutli display adapters?
[16:24] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: the device name doesn't mean much
[16:24] <OerHeks> Wiz_KeeD, type ifconfig
[16:24] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: your device name for the wirless card would well be eth1
[16:25] <Wiz_KeeD> hmm
[16:25] <Wiz_KeeD> i see
[16:25] <Wiz_KeeD> eht0 eth1 and lo
[16:25] <L3top> !enter Wiz_KeeD
[16:25] <L3top> !enter | Wiz_KeeD
[16:25] <Kyle__> bigpapa: there are two types of multi-head adapters/cards whatever you want to call them.
[16:25] <lund> Stumpy, i had same problem, used another machine to download the driver, cant think of any other way
[16:25] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: there you go
[16:25] <Wiz_KeeD> there i go what?
[16:25] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: there are your devices,
[16:25] <ikonia> as you can see eth1 is your wireless
[16:26] <Kyle__> bigpapa: Some show themselves as one huge combined display (NVidia cards + NVidia's closed source drivers do this IIRC).  Most however, show up as two seperate video cards, one for each head.
[16:26] <smithw> melkor, it's bgn with combo bluetooth, according to some googling
[16:26] <L3top> that is your answer Wiz_KeeD. cat /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[16:26] <Wiz_KeeD> now what?
[16:26] <Stumpy> lund thank you
[16:26] <Wiz_KeeD> i can see this here: SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTR{address}=="70:1a:04:e1:01:ba", ATTR{dev_id}=="0x0", ATTR{type}=="1", KERNEL=="wlan*", NAME="wlan0"
[16:27] <Stumpy> That's about all I can think of, but I need to find the actual package in question...
[16:27] <smithw> brb
[16:27] <ment0s> L3top: http://pastebin.com/3nbZ9RaP
[16:27] <Wiz_KeeD> but i can't see it in ifconfig or the other one, what gives?
[16:27] <bigpapa> Kyle__ when i did the command line it showed both adapters, so it sees them thankfully
[16:27] <Wiz_KeeD> L3top?
[16:27] <Kyle__> bigpapa: Ohh, wait, were you seeing a bunch of links for xdmx?  Yea, that's something insanely different.
[16:27] <bigpapa> ya
[16:28] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: your card is eth1 - don't worry about it
[16:28] <bigpapa> i was getting lost fast lol
[16:28] <Bakerboy> c
[16:28] <Wiz_KeeD> why doesn't it have wlan0 ikonia ?
[16:28] <L3top> Wiz_KeeD: be patient. You do not actually have a problem. I am trying to help people with problems... your not understanding "why" is not indicative of something broken.
[16:28] <ment0s> L3top: it looks like partition table failed but under windows  works fine and see only one partition
[16:28] <Wiz_KeeD> i am patient it's ok, thanks
[16:28] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: different card modules will have different names for the devices, some call them out as things like wlan others treat them as a network card so use eth
[16:29] <zion> what is main difference between Lubuntu 12.04 and Ubuntu 12.04 with LXDE regarding performance?
[16:29] <ikonia> zion: nothing really
[16:29] <Kyle__> bigpapa: This is a really old page, but it may help you for a start: http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxAndDualMonitors.html
[16:29] <bigpapa> Kyle__ thank you good sir :)
[16:29] <L3top> I see ment0s... can you please run chkdsk -f on it from windows?
[16:30] <zion> ikonia so if I install LXDE on 12.04 ubuntu I can keep Nautilus and 5 year LTS?
[16:30] <ikonia> zion: LXDE is not LTS
[16:30] <ment0s> already did, no errors passed and still the same .. even on other distro's
[16:30] <ikonia> zion: lubuntu (which is LXDE) is not an LTS release.
[16:31] <ment0s> L3top: my pal told me he made that partition through Acronis Disk Director .. might that be a problem ?
[16:31] <Dr_Willis_> zion:  lxde is another desktop you can run alonside uvunru.
[16:31] <L3top> You have acronis installed on the windows machine then?
[16:31] <Kyle__> bigpapa: There used to be a really good ubuntu page on it, but it's not quite comming up.. Good luck!
[16:31] <Dr_Willis_> zion:  you can run nautilus on top of it.. but it may get a little weird
[16:31] <L3top> ment0s: ^
[16:32] <ment0s> nope, I bought this 1tb from my friend its external
[16:32] <zion> ikonia thanks for clarification,Ill wait to see how will  Mint 13 perform on my old pc. If everything fails ill try Xubuntu. I think it has 5 yr LTS
[16:32] <L3top> ment0s: it would appear that this is not an ntfs partition, but some sort of proprietary acronis image dumped in a way I am unfamiliar with, and can only be read, most likely, if acronis is installed on the windows machine.
[16:32] <ikonia> zion: no, it doesn't
[16:32] <ikonia> zion: only Ubuntu is LTS nowe
[16:32] <ikonia> now
[16:33] <L3top> ment0s: give me a minute.
[16:33] <zion> ikonia: Geez us with old PC dont have any luck with LTS
[16:33] <ikonia> zion: that's not what it's there for
[16:33] <melkor> smithw: I think it could be the 8187SE, but there must be somebody who knows.
[16:33] <lund> Stumpy, still there
[16:33] <lund> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#b43_-_No_Internet_access
[16:34] <ment0s> L3top:ok, ill brb also
[16:34] <zion> ikonia so ill get securtiy updaes for ubuntu but wont get updates for LXDE and XFCE?
[16:34] <ikonia> zion: you'll get security updates to the core OS components on any LTS release.
[16:34] <ikonia> zion: but the external components such as xfce (for example) are down to the team that maintains it
[16:35] <Stumpy> lund: thank you
[16:35] <Stumpy> that is a useful link
[16:35] <smithw> melkor, I'll try that one, as soon as I figure out how realtek's website work
[16:35] <Gunz4MiPPle> what is the difference between the keyrings called 'default' and 'login', right now, 'login' is the default... I know that sounds silly
[16:36] <smithw> melkor, thank you for all your help
[16:36] <zion> ikonia: Well then Lubuntu can get security updates for 5 next years? It just wont get any LXDE updates after 18 months right?
[16:36] <Gunz4MiPPle> 'login' is default keyring, not 'default'
[16:36] <ikonia> zion: at a basic level, sure, that's it
[16:36] <Fisher> !paste
[16:36] <melkor> smithw: funny but that one is one of the few w/out their unix version.
[16:37] <knutremi> Hi. I'm using gedit to edit files on a remote FTP server. But some of the files go empty randomly.
[16:37] <zion> Thanks ikonia If I do remember correctly you helped me in past with ubuntu 10.10. Keep up the good work. Bye
[16:37] <smithw> melkor, that's... reassuring.
[16:37] <ikonia> zion: thank you, bye
[16:38] <smithw> melkor, my laptop is built by a local company, but apparently Toshiba's Sattelite Pro C850-10X/N uses the same card as this one.
[16:39] <Fisher> I usually know how to fix repository errors but this one has got me, can someone take a look. http://paste.ubuntu.com/996072/
[16:40] <kourtney_kane> hi can you tell me how to change gtk theme?
[16:42] <ment0s> L3top: ok im back
[16:43] <Fisher> sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* -vf
[16:43] <Fisher> aahaa
[16:43] <knutremi> kourtney_kane: I think you can change it through the Advanced Settings application. It's downloadable from the software center.
[16:43] <melkor> smithw: odd, there aren't many problems with that laptop and ubuntu.
[16:44] <lapion> I have recently discovered a swap optimised partition profile for people that use a separate home partition
[16:44] <smithw> melkor, I'd be willing to guess the 32-bit version would run everything without a single hitch. But I'm not ready yet to give up half my RAM, at least not until I exhaust every other option
[16:45] <lapion> sandwich the swap partition in between the root fs and the home partition
[16:45] <melkor> smithw: you could try d/loading and older kernel from the mainline ppa
[16:46] <knutremi> kourtney_kane: I checked it now. It's changeable through the Advanced Settings application, yes. Search for "Advanced Settings" in the software center.
[16:46] <ment0s> smithw: 32bit version does support more than 4gb ram ?
[16:47] <kourtney_kane> knutremi: i am getting dependency error
[16:47] <smithw> melkor, which one? some from the 2.x line?
[16:47] <melkor> smithw: I would say 3.0
[16:47] <lund> ment0s, yes with pae
[16:47] <kourtney_kane> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[16:47] <kourtney_kane> gnome-session: Depends: gnome-session-bin (>= 3.2.1-0ubuntu8) but 3.2.1-0ubuntu8 is to be installed
[16:47] <kourtney_kane>                Depends: gnome-session-common (= 3.2.1-0ubuntu8) but 3.2.1-0ubuntu8 is to be installed
[16:47] <smithw> ment0s, does it? the only reason I installed the 64-bit version is the fact that this laptop has 8GB ram
[16:47] <smithw> ment0s, if there is a way to access all my RAM with a 32-bit version, please do tell!
[16:48] <melkor> smithw: ment0s 32bit os's cannot address more than 4 gigs
[16:48] <ment0s> smithw: ^read lund post
[16:48] <kourtney_kane> can you help
[16:49] <lund> smithw, pae, afaik this default on 32 bit in 12.04
[16:49] <knutremi> kourtney_kane: Are you able to cite some of the information in the dependency error. Or is that all the information you got?
[16:49] <ment0s> smithw: i had server with 6gb ram and pae kernel reads it no bother
[16:49] <kourtney_kane> gnome-session: Depends: gnome-session-bin (>= 3.2.1-0ubuntu8) but 3.2.1-0ubuntu8 is to be installed
[16:49] <kourtney_kane>              Depends: gnome-session-common (= 3.2.1-0ubuntu8) but 3.2.1-0ubuntu8 is to be installed
[16:49] <smithw> lund, so all I'd have to do is install 12.04 32-bit and my RAM would already be there? (I'd do a clean install, this is a new laptop anyway)
[16:49] <kourtney_kane> these are unmet dependencies
[16:50] <ment0s> smithw: and installer detect ram automaticlly so it chosed kernel itself
[16:50] <ment0s> smithw: just install it as normal and it w
[16:50] <ment0s> smithw: just install it as normal and it will do the rest
[16:50] <smithw> so, it seems I have two options now, go for kernel 3.0.0 or 32-bit/PAE version...
[16:51] <smithw> ment0s, how would I know if PAE is active and all my RAM is being used?
[16:51] <knutremi> kourtney_kane: I never figured out how to solve those dependency errors. I guess you have another question that needs answering now. ;)
[16:51] <ment0s> bootloader shows you version of kernel -pae
[16:51] <melkor> the kernel is easy to install and check. Just d/load, dpkg -i. It might not work.
[16:51] <lund> smithw, type free
[16:51] <arianit> histo_, my update manager on 11.10 is messed up. it's not giving me the option to update to 12.04. any idea?
[16:52] <kourtney_kane> yes, i need to change my theme to the default one
[16:52] <kourtney_kane> gimp changed my theme to an odd looking one
[16:52] <ment0s> smithw: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnablingPAE
[16:52] <smithw> lund, would the livecd enable PAE? so I can try it without installing?
[16:53] <kourtney_kane> the font is pale yellow
[16:53] <smithw> melkor, I think I'll try them both then. one of them should work
[16:53] <kourtney_kane> i cannot see it on white background
[16:53] <knutremi> What happens if you switch between some of the additional themes in the appearance system settings?
[16:53] <smithw> them being both the older kernel and the 32-bit/PAE version
[16:53] <lund> smithw, not sure, why would you not install 64bit?
[16:53] <smithw> lund, no driver for my wireless card
[16:53] <arianit> my update manager on 11.10 is messed up. it's not giving me the option to update to 12.04. any idea?
[16:53] <kourtney_kane> same problem remains
[16:53] <morsnowski> now this maybe a stupid question but can i upgrade 12.04/32 to 12.04/64 and if what would be safest way
[16:54] <lund> smithw, which card?
[16:54] <ment0s> smithw: what wifi are you using ?
[16:54] <bastidrazor> morsnowski: no you can not. you would need to do a reinstall
[16:54] <kourtney_kane> knutremi: i tried changing the user but still the problem persists
[16:55] <smithw> lund, ment0s, RTL8723AE-BT
[16:55] <melkor> smithw: http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-wireless/msg78481.html they mention your card here, you might need the 8192 driver.
[16:55] <knutremi> Which version of Ubuntu are you using, kourtney_kane?
[16:56] <morsnowski> bastidrazor, you're off the christmas card list :)
[16:56] <kourtney_kane> oneiric
[16:56] <kourtney_kane>  Linux ubuntu 3.0.0-17-generic #30-Ubuntu SMP Thu Mar 8 20:45:39 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[16:56] <smithw> melkor, that would even be a better option!
[16:56] <Kyle__> /test/window 6
[16:56] <Kyle__> Heh,
[16:57] <smithw> melkor, ment0s, lund, thank you all so much. I was at a dead end today and now I have three options to try. Thank you guys so much, really.
[16:57] <lund> smithw, and there is 32 bit driver but not 64? seems odd
[16:57] <Lantizia> how can I debug a mount command I've issued that just hangs?
[16:58] <kourtney_kane> i used this command lsb_release -sc; uname -a
[16:58] <billyjam> Anybody knows how to get a Logitech M187 to work with Ubuntu 12.04? Are there any drivers out there?
[16:58] <smithw> lund, the 64-bit driver doesn't work with ndiswrapper, but I think (and this is a guess) that the default b43 driver would pick it up on 32-bit
[16:58] <smithw> lund, also there are reports that 64-bit drivers with ndiswrapper tend not to work
[16:58] <ment0s> smithw: just install 32bit kernel
[17:00] <Dead_AssClown> im new to ubuntu
[17:00] <smithw> ment0s, I'm not experienced enough to manage multiple kernels on a single machine, but I can try and learn how to that also
[17:00] <smithw> *to do
[17:01] <Dead_AssClown> idle can't import Tkinter.  Your Python may not be configured for Tk.
[17:01] <ment0s> smithw: you can also come back to your old kernel anytime, it will be listed on boot menu in grub
[17:01] <knutremi> kourtney_kane: I'm out of suggestions. You could try installing a theme from http://ubuntu-art.org/index.php?xcontentmode=100 though. So guarantees that it will make things better though.
[17:02] <smithw> ment0s, but wouldn't that break compatibility with 64-bit drivers/applications?
[17:02] <ment0s> applications could have some problems but new kernel mean new drivers also
[17:03] <melkor> smithw: If this page works for you, the driver seems to have your chipset in it. http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=53&PFid=53&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false&Downloads=true#RTL8192DE-VC
[17:04] <WalterN> alright, who wants to help with a samba problem? (heh)... I have a server with Ubuntu 12.04, I'm sharing /media/pool across the network... when I boot my desktop into windows I can see the storage pool, but when I boot it into ubuntu 12.04 I cant... here is the smb.conf file http://pastebin.com/ZTpM3P5L
[17:04] <knutremi> Seems I didn't get an answer to my question though. I guess I'll have to try asking again later.
[17:04] <knutremi> Bye
[17:04] <smithw> melkor, I'll try that in addition to 8192CE also
[17:05] <Dead_AssClown> im a newb
[17:05] <Dead_AssClown> i use the plasma pistol br
[17:05] <lanceio> can I remove gnome COMPLETELY and put compiz as my default window manager?
[17:05] <smithw> how can I contribute back? I mean, if that works and someone else also has the same problem, where can I leave instruction so that other people can solve it?
[17:05] <melkor> smithw: that one includes the drivers for CE, DE, SE so if you build and install it you should have all three taken care of.
[17:05] <smithw> *instructions
[17:06] <lund> smithw, ubuntuforums, in the tutorial and/or install section
[17:06] <lund> or the stackexchange or whatever that thing is called
[17:07] <smithw> lund, I'll write a post there if it works and I'll make sure to mention you, ment0s and melkor from this channel. Thanks everyone.
[17:07] <melkor> good luck.
[17:07] <lund> smithw, askubuntu.com
[17:08] <Dead_AssClown> im going to do some python tutorials you newbies
[17:08] <lund> seems like so long ago I had any hardware that didnt work correctly
[17:09] <Zally666> like analog tvtuners in vdr
[17:09] <kallstrom>  what does lund mean?
[17:09] <Zally666> who knows analog tvtuners to work with vdr ?
[17:10] <Zally666> or compile install vdr or yavdr ?
[17:10] <lund> kallstrom, seems like a few people tonight having driver / device issues
[17:11] <Zally666> like tvtime with sudo no audio ... and vdr jusr wont start
[17:11] <kallstrom> no i am asking what is the meaning of your name
[17:11] <Lunar_Lander> hello, I just wanted to setup my Thunderbird 12 (ubuntu 12.04) and it says "live. mozillamessaging. com uses an invalid security certificate." does anybody else have the problem too?
[17:11] <Lunar_Lander> I just found something about that in the german Thunderbird forums
[17:11] <Lunar_Lander> it's Thunderbird 12.0.1 on Ubuntu 12.04LTS
[17:12] <lund> kallstrom, seen forbrydelsen?
[17:12] <Zally666> vdr on ubuntu 12 ?
[17:12] <Zally666> 3.0.0-19-generic
[17:13] <lund> kallstrom, danish cop show, lund is main character
[17:13] <Zally666> whooptie whoop
[17:13] <Zally666> starships supposed to fly
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> Lunar_Lander: https://getsatisfaction.com/mozilla_messaging/topics/invalid_certificate-1hnnbd
[17:13] <kallstrom> oh i c
[17:13] <Zally666> lets do this one more time
[17:14] <kallstrom> lund so you are from denmark
[17:14] <WalterN> meh
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> Lunar_Lander: check the system date and time
[17:14] <lund> no, new zealand
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> Lunar_Lander: http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=922555&start=0&st=0&sk=t&sd=a
[17:14] <kallstrom> do new zealanders speak danish?
[17:15] <lund> no, but they can read english subtitles, heh
[17:15] <WalterN> been trying to get this samba config to work like I want since thursday when I installed ubuntu 12.04 on my server. Had 10.04 on it and everything worked fine
[17:16] <Boohbah> poor irccloud...
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> WalterN: how are you establishing the shares?
[17:16] <WalterN> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/ZTpM3P5L is that what you mean?
[17:17] <WalterN> ActionParsnip: at the very bottom is the part I care about... /media/pool
[17:18] <lund> WalterN, so what is issue exactly?
[17:18] <nisha> lund were you born in new zealand
[17:19] <lund> yes, why
[17:19] <WalterN> I can log in to the account I made with pbedit on windows, but in linux I cant... it does not even show it
[17:19] <WalterN> erm
[17:19] <WalterN> edbedit
[17:19] <nisha> just asking... i have a friend named lund
[17:19] <Zally666> j #ubuntu-vdr
[17:19] <WalterN> bleh...
[17:19] <nisha> who is also from new zealand
[17:19] <WalterN> pdbedit**
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> WalterN: try:  sudo smbpasswd -a $USER
[17:20] <Zally666> howto mobile tv server ?
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> WalterN: make a samba password for your user there
[17:20] <Zally666> vdr or yavdr
[17:20] <Zally666> or any ?
[17:20] <zastaph> if I have a .gitconfig inside my git repository, will it be tracked? and what about all files starting with . in general
[17:20] <Zally666> myth ?
[17:20] <WalterN> pdbedit makes you set a password for an account
[17:20] <Zally666> its to late
[17:20] <zastaph> oops wrong channel to ask :)
[17:21] <Zally666> u got it its out of the Q
[17:21] <Zally666> when i look into ur eyes its over
[17:21] <WalterN> pdbedit makes you set a password for an account...
[17:22] <qwd> I'm trying to watch some images in Firefox on Ubuntu 12.04 but I get "The bucket you are attempting to access must be addressed using the specified endpoint. Please send all future requests to this endpoint." The images are on amazonaws.com, and I can watch them on my phone, but not on my desktop pc.
[17:22] <Timmmm> Hey, this is very off-topic (sorry), but does anyone know if you need a passport to book train tickets in Russia?
[17:22] <nisha> no need
[17:22] <lund> WalterN, are you trying to use the linux box as a PDC or just a file server?
[17:22] <DrManhattan> no, just to get there
[17:22] <WalterN> lund: what is PDC?
[17:22] <lund> primary domain controller
[17:22] <WalterN> uh... no
[17:23] <WalterN> server is just a storage pool network wide, it runs other things too but not related... (apache... etc.)
[17:24] <WalterN> or rather, thats what I want it to do
[17:25] <david__> Hello all can I ask a simple question based on the LuninuxOS disto here?
[17:25] <lund> well pdbedit is for editing users in a sam database
[17:25] <morsnowski> david__, no
[17:25] <WalterN> morsnowski: lol
[17:25] <Jai_Bhadrakali> hi i am getting this error
[17:25] <Jai_Bhadrakali> http://pastebin.com/MPbLP53p
[17:25] <david__> even though it is Ubuntu based?
[17:26] <morsnowski> david__, sure fire away
[17:26] <Jai_Bhadrakali> will someone review my error?
[17:26] <Jai_Bhadrakali> http://pastebin.com/MPbLP53p
[17:27] <david__> okay just installed it and clicked on the update manager so that I can update. By default all the checkboxed are checked. Is that okay?
[17:27] <david__> check boxes i meant
[17:27] <morsnowski> yes if you don't want to exclude something but if you are new it's probably good to leave them checked
[17:27] <david__> okay
[17:27] <WalterN> lund: well... I donno... like I said, I can see the account I made with pdbedit -a -u on windows and log in from there and add files/remove files/whatever from /media/pool
[17:27] <david__> thanks
[17:28] <Jai_Bhadrakali> http://pastebin.com/MPbLP53p
[17:28] <WalterN> lund: but when I boot into Ubuntu 12.04 I cant
[17:28] <morsnowski> david__, next just ask but don't ask to ask :)
[17:28] <david__> k
[17:28] <Jai_Bhadrakali> why is this gtk+ error coming
[17:28] <Jai_Bhadrakali> http://pastebin.com/MPbLP53p
[17:28] <lund> WalterN, from ubuntu can you see the share?
[17:29] <WalterN> lund: no, I cant not.
[17:29] <nano_> hello
[17:29] <nano_> help me
[17:29] <Jai_Bhadrakali> when i open gedit
[17:30] <Jai_Bhadrakali> http://pastebin.com/MPbLP53p
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> WalterN: if you run:  smbtree    on the server, do you see the shares
[17:30] <nano_> linux for:hdd has a 4 partiton windows for: hdd has a 6 partiton
[17:31] <DJones> nano_: You need to explain your problem in the channel before anybody will be able to help
[17:31] <WalterN> ActionParsnip: when I run smbtree, all it spits out is "Ignoring unknown parameter 'update encrypted'"
[17:31] <Jai_Bhadrakali> DJones please help me
[17:31] <Jai_Bhadrakali> * Coolerss (~Coolerss@host236.elmar-dc.pl) has left #ubuntu
 nano_: You need to explain your problem in the channel before anybody will be able to help
[17:31] <Jai_Bhadrakali> sorry
[17:31] <Jai_Bhadrakali> http://pastebin.com/MPbLP53p
[17:32] <DJones> Jai_Bhadrakali: I've not done anything with themes so I've not got any idea about that
[17:32] <alfatau> hello! i just installed the 12.04 ubuntu release. I've a problem with the login screen: my name is made of 3 words, but the user selection box cannot contain my entire name. Is there a way to increase that box width? thank you for your attention
[17:33] <Jai_Bhadrakali> DJones can you tell me how to change themes?
[17:33] <nano_> hello ı have got a compaq presario cq61 lettob.İnstall the Ubuntu and 3 partitions are in 1 partiton (sda4\
[17:33] <DJones> !themes | Jai_Bhadrakali
[17:33] <DJones> !changethemes | Jai_Bhadrakali
[17:34] <DJones> Jai_Bhadrakali: As I don't change themes, those links are all I can suggest that you look at
[17:34] <lund> WalterN, so you have a samba server on ubuntu sharing a folder, users on win can see that share, but users on ubuntu cannot, correct?
[17:34] <openbees> software center "install" button not working ?
[17:34] <isotta>  /load .xchat2/budus.so
[17:34] <Jai_Bhadrakali> DJones : thanks maybe these links may help
[17:34] <openbees> ubuntu 12.04
[17:34] <nano_> hello ı have got a compaq presario cq61 lettob.İnstall the Ubuntu and 3 partitions are in 1 partiton (Recovery,Files,Backup Files in the sda4.Now ı'm a installing windows (necessity) but dont install.
[17:35] <WalterN> lund: yes. I also checked on OSX and cant see on there either
[17:35] <ikonia> nano_: "don't install" - need more info
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> openbees: close it and run:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[17:35] <lund> WalterN, can only certain win users see the share or all?
[17:36] <nano_> windows install see the 6 partitions but linux gparted see the 4 parttitions.Windows is dont install all partitions
[17:36] <WalterN> lund: heh, dont know, there are not that many computers in this house... all I can confirm is windows 7 can see/access it
[17:36] <lionofgod> hello, I was changing some stuff in ccsm and all of a sudden my mouse became jerky, since then Ive reset all ccsm settings but my mouse is jerky when I move it... Can someone tell me how to reset mouse settings?
[17:37] <nano_> help
[17:37] <lionofgod> My mouse works fine on other compters (windows)
[17:37] <lionofgod> is it possible to install mouse drivers or something of the sort?
[17:37] <morsnowski> nano whats you native language ?
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> lionofgod: is it ok in Unity2D session?
[17:37] <morsnowski> nano_,  whats you native language ?
[17:38] <nano_> ı'm turkish.But dont people here in #ubuntu-tr
[17:38] <billyjam> Anybody here who can help me to get a Logitech M187 wireless mouse to work with Ubuntu 12.04?
[17:38] <lionofgod> well ive tried it in gnome classic and unity
[17:38] <lionofgod> Il try it in unity 2d brb
[17:38] <morsnowski> oh ok
[17:38] <morsnowski> nano_, it's far easier to install windows first. can you do that ?
[17:40] <nano_> windows is dont install:( Windows is speaking THE all partitions:windows can not be installed in this section)
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> billyjam: what is the output of:  uname -a    please
[17:41] <Lunar_Lander> ActionParsnip, thanks!
[17:41] <Lunar_Lander> system date and time is yea, today I mean
[17:41] <morsnowski> nano_, what is it you are trying to achieve ?
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> Lunar_Lander: cool
[17:42] <Lunar_Lander> ActionParsnip, yea at the german thunderbird forums they discuss that issue too
[17:42] <Lunar_Lander> and that the one guy can't connect his thunderbird to his GMail account
[17:42] <Lunar_Lander> that this might be related he thinks
[17:43] <lionofgod> No, my mouse is also jerky in ubuntu 2d
[17:43] <Lunar_Lander> ActionParsnip, yea, date is May 19th
[17:43] <Lunar_Lander> 2012
[17:44] <nano_> install the Windows7 after (next)Ubuntu
[17:44] <nano_> but windows is don't install
[17:44] <raptor> Hi hurah Finally after more than 4 hours of nonsense I'm finally posting this from ubuntu 12.04
[17:45] <nano_> all partitons eror
[17:45] <WalterN> nano_: yeah, windows is really (really) picky like that... it only likes to properly install if there is one hard drive plugged in.
[17:45] <WalterN> and nothing on that hard drive
[17:45] <lionofgod> ActionParsnip: My mouse is also jerky in unity 2d
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> nano_: just free up space and you can select to install to that
[17:46] <morsnowski> nano_, if you want to get rid of it you could simlpy delete it's partitions and run a grub update
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> lionofgod: if you reboot and run:  dmesg | less     you can see how it gets picked up, may give clues
[17:46] <lund> WalterN, you seem to have a very complex config, to just share some files in your house, all I can suggest is to work through this http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/diagnosis.html
[17:46] <morsnowski> i think he want's ti kill windows
[17:47] <lionofgod> ActionParsnip: how do i run that? At which screen?
[17:47] <wilee-nilee> WalterN, that is not true with windows.
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> WalterN: here is my smb.conf    http://paste.ubuntu.com/996165/
[17:47] <Poindexter_> Hey guys, I am looking for a website interface to have live chats with customers. I have seen some IRC chat interfaces such as "Webmaster" but that is a huge java script. Dalnet has one. There is another one called AJAX. Any suggestions?
[17:47] <Lunar_Lander> ActionParsnip, the mozillazine forums say something about that this may happen sometimes but is often resolved within a day or so
[17:48] <WalterN> wilee-nilee: yeah it is. I was helping my room mate with installing windows 7 with three hard drives plugged in... it would only install properly if the other two drives were unplugged.
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> WalterN: the only lines that arent stock are the bottom few, I then run:  sudo smbpasswd -a $USER    and add a samba password, I can then restart the service and samba is ready to rock
[17:48] <WalterN> ActionParsnip: alright, I'll try that
[17:48] <WalterN> hold on
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> Poindexter_: could use the freenode webchat portal and join your own channel
[17:48] <wilee-nilee> nano_, are you using the custom install with windows, and is there a NTFS there already waiting for the install?
[17:48] <nano_> we created space, gives the following error: Windows will not load the selected disc
[17:49] <L3top> !su | ment0s
[17:49] <Poindexter_> ActionParsnip I have seen the free Mibit as well. I would like to not be associated with any popular IRC server.
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> nano_: even if you format it in the installer?
[17:49] <nano_> When we make with gparted ntfs, windows says there is no hdd
[17:49] <wilee-nilee> WalterN, at the least windows will with a custom install go to a pre-formatted NTFS in the sda drive, even if there are ext tyoe partitions on that HD.
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> Poindexter_: could run your own :)
[17:50] <Poindexter_> That is the point ActionParsnip. I am going to set up Bahamut server and run something but there must be a private web interface.
[17:50] <nano_> if a make ntfs partition with gparted windows says:Unable to install the disk, windows
[17:51] <nano_> does not delete any disk is unable to
[17:51] <RyaN-user-520>  Sâdece Sus`uyorum...
[17:52] <Poindexter_> ActionParsnip    Freenode is running:    version ircd-seven-1.1.3
[17:52] <q0kh4n> hoþ geLdin kanka
[17:52] <q0kh4n> :D
[17:52] <nano_> oh türkler geldi
[17:52] <RyaN-user-520> hb
[17:52] <RyaN-user-520> kana
[17:52] <RyaN-user-520> :D
[17:52] <q0kh4n> hoþ geLdi
[17:52] <q0kh4n> :D:D
[17:52] <wilee-nilee> nano_, hmm I always use gparted to make a ntfs for windows
[17:52] <RyaN-user-520> Selam
[17:52] <WalterN> wilee-nilee: uh, no. the three drives were two 3tb and one 2tb, insall to the 2tb drive and it puts a EFI partition on the three tb drive... wha? then if the two three tb drives were already partitioned/formatted and plugged in, windows would simply refuse to install to the 2tb drive.
[17:52] <RyaN-user-520> kýzlar
[17:52] <RyaN-user-520> varmý bi aber
[17:52] <q0kh4n> kanka kýz yok
[17:52] <q0kh4n> :D
[17:52] <RyaN-user-520> yardan
[17:52] <RyaN-user-520> :D
[17:52] <RyaN-user-520> kim
[17:52] <FloodBot1> RyaN-user-520: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:52] <RyaN-user-520> var
[17:53] <q0kh4n> aL bak
[17:53] <q0kh4n> banLandýn
[17:53] <q0kh4n> :D
[17:53] <nano_> There is no disk says windows ntfs with gparted we make
[17:53] <lionofgod> AciontParsnip: I did not reboot, but I ran that command and this was output, it mentions the mouse on lines 649, 810-811, 858-859
[17:53] <q0kh4n> ¢ýk nick deðiþtir kanka
[17:53] <q0kh4n> :D
[17:53] <FloodBot1> q0kh4n: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:53] <q0kh4n> kapa ¢eneni
[17:53] <lionofgod> Nothing seems wrong with it
[17:53] <RyaN-user-520> :DDD
[17:53] <RyaN-user-520> nolyuo
[17:53] <RyaN-user-520> kanka
[17:53] <RyaN-user-520> :D
[17:53] <RyaN-user-520> ne iþe yarar bu kanal
[17:53] <FloodBot1> RyaN-user-520: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:53] <RyaN-user-520> kýmýn
[17:53] <RyaN-user-520> :D
[17:53] <wilee-nilee> WalterN, Ahh efi's that is a another thing, and drives that large being read altogether could be a problem I suppose.
[17:53] <peepsalot> i just upgraded from an older nvidia card to a newer one.  what do i need to do to get x running again?  just reinstall the drivers or something else?
[17:53] <q0kh4n> noLuy yw
[17:54] <q0kh4n> :D
[17:54] <lionofgod> ActionParsnip: I did not reboot, but I ran that command and this was output, it mentions the mouse on lines 649, 810-811, 858-859
[17:54] <lionofgod> (01:53:11 PM) q0kh4n: ??k nick de?i?tir kanka
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> peepsalot: i'd uninstall the driver, reboot then reinstall
[17:54] <Kyle__> Frack.
[17:54] <lionofgod> http://pastebin.com/Cwp43QSY
[17:54] <Kyle__> Anyone know how to stop mdadm from rebuilding?
[17:54] <RrR>  Sâdece Sus`uyorum...
[17:54] <T_A_N_K> hmmm
[17:54] <q0kh4n> «lionofgod» ?
[17:54] <RrR> Selam
[17:54] <wilee-nilee> WalterN, not everybody is using that partitioning, not many as of now really
[17:54] <WalterN> wilee-nilee: is a problem. butt tons of problems. could only get it to work like we wanted after installing in excess of 10 times
[17:54] <T_A_N_K> would it be wise to use a 4 gb usb as / and the /home on a hard disk?
[17:54] <wilee-nilee> unless over 2 tb
[17:54] <lapion> Kyle__, not a god idea..
[17:54] <nano_> ubuntu windows ta 3 tane olan diski birleştirip tek disk gibi görüyor
[17:55] <Kyle__> lapion: Probably not.  *sigh*  A typo is causing this system to sync it's raid1 set to /dev/sdb instead of /dev/sdb3.  Now to wait the damn things out.
[17:56] <WalterN> wilee-nilee: linux never has been a problem. just define whatever partitions I want and it does it... no hidden things happen
[17:56] <MadarChodBhosDK> :
[17:56] <MadarChodBhosDK> gnome-session: Depends: gnome-session-bin (>= 3.2.1-0ubuntu8) but 3.2.1-0ubuntu8 is to be installed
[17:56] <MadarChodBhosDK>                Depends: gnome-session-common (= 3.2.1-0ubuntu8) but 3.2.1-0ubuntu8 is to be installed
[17:56] <RrR> Kyle__ amin varmý gardaþ?
[17:56] <lapion> Kyle__, in that case force a halt..
[17:56] <MadarChodBhosDK> i am getting dependency error
[17:56] <Kyle__> thedancingdeer: Wise?  Never tried it, should work OK.  But why?
[17:56] <nano_> kudurdunuz mu abazlar :D
[17:56] <wilee-nilee> WalterN, yeah always works for me I hardly use windows I started on open source
[17:56] <Kyle__> lapion: I wonder if I can fail it....
[17:56] <nano_> :(
[17:56] <lapion> Kyle__, you might still be able to recover other partitions
[17:57] <RrR> Hello
[17:57] <RrR> How are you girls?
[17:57] <Kyle__> lapion: It was an empty replacement drive for the dead one dell shipped with my server.
[17:57] <Kyle__> Damn dell
[17:57] <billyjam> Anybody here who can help me to get a Logitech M187 wireless mouse to work with Ubuntu 12.04?
[17:57] <Kyle__> So, how come RrR hasn't been kickbanned by now?
[17:57] <lapion> Kyle__, let it rebuild
[17:57] <nano_> :(
[17:57] <Kyle__> lapion: Yea, probably right.
[17:57] <L3top> Do you have a support question RrR?
[17:57] <lapion> use it as is
[17:57] <RrR> Kyle__ f*ck off bebegim
[17:57] <wilee-nilee> WalterN, efi and gpt partitioning though is trickier it seems
[17:57] <LordOfTime> !ops | RrR
[17:57] <lionofgod> billyjam: I have a feeling that ubuntu doesnt like logitech... my logitech mouse is all jerky >.<
[17:58] <LordOfTime> thanks bazhang
[17:58] <WalterN> wilee-nilee: also, windows built in software RAID is complete garbage... <3 mdadm
[17:58] <ActionParsnip> billyjam: what is the output of:  uname -a     please
[17:58] <lionofgod> Can someone please help me get my mouse fixed... its all jerky!
[17:58] <billyjam> lionofgod: So I've understod.. but mine doesn't seem to work at all.... :(
[17:58] <lapion> RrR, please no swearing.. Kyle__  you neither.. it's not the word that's a swearin it's the intention behind the word
[17:58] <Kyle__> WalterN: And mdadm supports raid6 :) which is fantastic.
[17:58] <lionofgod> billyjam: when you boot?
[17:59] <Kyle__> lapion: Sorry.  Is using fsck as a swear word still ok?
[17:59] <wilee-nilee> WalterN, would not know I always do a mbr partitioning, since my setup are that way stock, I have not had to deal with any other yet thank goodness.
[17:59] <MadarChodBhosDK> while installing gnome tweak tool from software center i get this dependency error
[17:59] <MadarChodBhosDK> gnome-session: Depends: gnome-session-bin (>= 3.2.1-0ubuntu8) but 3.2.1-0ubuntu8 is to be installed
[17:59] <MadarChodBhosDK>                Depends: gnome-session-common (= 3.2.1-0ubuntu8) but 3.2.1-0ubuntu8 is to be installed
[17:59] <q0kh4n> türkLer nerde
[17:59] <lionofgod> billyjam: My mouse does not work on first boot, but when I reboot it works
[17:59] <q0kh4n> turkLer yazsin
[17:59] <q0kh4n> aLoo
[17:59] <lapion> like I said it's the intention behind the word.. not the word itself
[17:59] <Kyle__> gotcha.
[17:59] <WalterN> wilee-nilee: its not a problem... unless its on windows.
[18:00] <L3top> MadarChodBhosDK: do you have any PPA's installed?
[18:00] <MadarChodBhosDK> Is there any way to solve the dependency error
[18:00] <billyjam> ActionParsnip: Linux bjam-laptop 3.2.0-24-generic #37-Ubuntu SMP Wed Apr 25 08:43:52 UTC 2012 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> MadarChodBhosDK: can you PASTEBIN the output of:  apt-cache policy gnome-session; apt-cache policy gnome-session-bin
[18:00] <lund> last time i saw someone get told off for swearing they were told there might be priests or small children in the channel, heh
[18:00] <billyjam> lionofgod: ok, thank's I'll try that
[18:00] <L3top> MadarChodBhosDK: do what ActionParsnip said
[18:00] <lionofgod> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/Cwp43QSY, heres the log... everything looks fine it mentions mouse on last lines and around line 809
[18:00] <JeffSpicoliDude> Haha.  One is a danger to the other :P
[18:01] <ActionParsnip> billyjam: if you unload then reload the psmouse module, does it help?
[18:01] <lanceio> I just deleted unity and all of gnome, how do I get compiz? when I install compiz, it says its alredy the latest version
[18:01] <lionofgod> sudo apt-get install ccsm
[18:01] <delac> does anyone know if the state given by "nmcli nm wwan" is stored somewhere?
[18:01] <MadarChodBhosDK> ActionParsnip:GNU bash, version 4.2.10(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)
[18:02] <lanceio> I did that too, but im on fluxbox now and how do I access compiz using gdm?
[18:02] <L3top> !pastebin | MadarChodBhosDK
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> MadarChodBhosDK: run the command then use pastebin to host it
[18:03] <MadarChodBhosDK> ok
[18:03] <lionofgod> Aooarebtly compiz does not work on fluxbox...
[18:03] <lionofgod> *apparently
[18:03] <Chat8197> Hi
[18:03] <Tynach> Has anybody gotten the Alternate Installer for 12.04 to properly install a bootable system while using LVM?
[18:03] <lionofgod> ActionParsnip: hey, can you please help me fin my mouse : )
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> lanceio: compiz is a WM, as is fluxbox
[18:04] <Kyle__> linagee: I don't beleive fluxbox is a full gnome WM.  I thought you needed a full gnome wm for compiz sutff to work on it.
[18:04] <lanceio> ActionParsnip, exactly: which is why I wanna go into compiz to remove fluxbox
[18:04] <MadarChodBhosDK> http://pastebin.com/QRb2bsm5
[18:04] <Kyle__> ActionParsnip: It's a full WM, not just a collection of pretties for all gnome vms?
[18:04] <lionofgod> laveio: compiz --replace
[18:04] <Kyle__> s/vms/wms
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> lionofgod: then press ALT+F2 and run:  compiz --replace
[18:04] <Tynach> I've tried everything, and I can't get it to work. I'm using a separate /boot partition, and even when it fails, I try to open a console in recovery mode with my root filesystem and try to reinstall grub and so forth... Nothing works.
[18:04] <votproductions> rtfm
[18:04] <lanceio> lionofgod, that doesnt work
[18:04] <lanceio> it says fluxbox is running
[18:05] <ActionParsnip> MadarChodBhosDK: can you PM me and paste the text to me, my workplace blocks pastebin
[18:05] <lionofgod> try metacity --replace
[18:05] <votproductions> rtfm
[18:05] <lionofgod> and then compiz --replace
[18:05] <lanceio> Window manager warning: Screen 0 on display ":0.0" already has a window manager
[18:05] <Tynach> lanceio, if you run "compiz --replace" it should work. Note that is "compiz SPACE DASH DASH replace".
[18:05] <lanceio> same error for both of them
[18:05] <iKelvin> Hello championship league is going to play in less than an hour
[18:05] <unkn-error> Is there a way to check the reability of an hardisk from linux? Search && fix for physical bad blocks on old laptop ide hdd?
[18:06] <lionofgod> ActionParsnip: is their any mouse setting that I can reset?
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> lionofgod: not sure dude, sorry
[18:06] <Kyle__> unkn-error: badblocks is the classic one.  Also install smartmontools, it will let you check the smart status and run smart tests.
[18:06] <lionofgod> Actionparsnip: k w/e
[18:06] <Tynach> Does anybody know about my LVM problem? Details of someone else having it here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1000927
[18:06] <unkn-error> Kyle__: thx
[18:07] <Icehawk78> I'm having a weird issue - all of my video playback on my system appears to be running at 2x speed
[18:07] <iKelvin> Does anyone know how to mount iphone4 to ubuntu 12.04?
[18:07] <votproductions> rtfm
[18:07] <L3top> in what program Icehawk78
[18:07] <DJones> votproductions: Please don't do that
[18:07] <ikonia> votproductions: unacceptable
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> Icehawk78: which apps have you tried?
[18:07] <ikonia> votproductions: if you can't/don't want to help - don't
[18:07] <Kyle__> Tynach: Are you installing grub on an LVM /boot partition?
[18:07] <billyjam> ActionParsnip: It worked after reboot, thank's for your help!
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> billyjam: sweet
[18:08] <Icehawk78> ActionParsnip: xbmc, movie player, vlc
[18:08] <ikonia> Tynach: I don't believe /boot can be on an lvm partition
[18:08] <WalterN> ActionParsnip: ahhhh.... woot *squee* thanks... it worked with that.. not sure what was wrong before
[18:08] <Kyle__> Tynach: Nevermind, page finally loaded
[18:08] <Tynach> Kyle__, no, I have a separate normal /boot partition, and I'm installing Grub to /dev/sda, not a partition.
[18:08] <lanceio> sudo apt-get install compiz-*
[18:08] <lanceio> is what I tried now
[18:08] <Tynach> ikonia, I have a separate non-lvm partition for /boot.
[18:08] <ikonia> Tynach: so then the machine should boot fine, at worst complain that it can't see /
[18:08] <ikonia> (assuming / is on lvm)
[18:08] <Tynach> Yes, / is on lvm.
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> WalterN: no idea, thats all I do on a fresh install of my server. Copy file in, make smbpasswd users, resart smbd service. done
[18:09] <ikonia> Tynach: so it should at least start to boot, and at worst compain it can't see /
[18:09] <L3top> np ment0s... have a good one.
[18:09] <Kyle__> Tynach: Yea, should be fine.  / on LVM is prefectly fine, I do it routinely.  My guess is the problem is somewhere in the encryption part.
[18:09] <Tynach> ikonia, Kyle__, I'm not using encryption, unlike this guy. I'm just using LVM. I had the exact same setup for 11.04 and 11.10, but now it's not working in 12.04.
[18:09] <kelvinella> hi
[18:09] <Icehawk78> ActionParsnip: It appears to be music, too. I just loaded an mp3 into Banshee and that also had an issue. I'm guessing it's a setting to do with my video card (connected via HDMI) but I'm not really sure.
[18:10] <ikonia> Tynach: what error are you actually getting
[18:10] <eldeloli> bona tarda
[18:10] <votproductions> rtfm
[18:10] <Kyle__> Tynach: Oooh.  Oh.  It worked on my laptop I think.  I could pull up a VM and give it a shot.
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> Icehawk78: try enabling vsync in your playeras
[18:11] <kelvinella> hello?
[18:11] <Tynach> ikonia, Kyle__: error is something like "error: no such device: *insert long hex string*".
[18:11] <WalterN> ActionParsnip: herm... its showing it as "samba24" when I log in... what is the setting to change that?
[18:11] <Tynach> And then a grub rescue prompt.
[18:11] <Kyle__> Tynach: Is this on apple hardware or one of the odd MSI motherboards taht uses EFI?
[18:11] <ikonia> Tynach: need to take a note of that error, especially the device it is looking for
[18:12] <Tynach> Kyle__, no, this is on a 1 - 3 year old ASUS motherboard.
[18:12] <Tynach> ikonia, I'm currently reinstalling Ubuntu (with the exact same setup, but formatting all relevant partitions and redoing the LVM), so if it happens again, I will note the error.
[18:12] <Kyle__> Tynach: Hum.  I don't recall hearing about EFI on asuses, but I"m not expert on them either.... This just rings a bell for when I had to install ubuntu-server on a system with EFI.
[18:13] <Tynach> Kyle__, if it were EFI, it wouldn't have worked in 11.10 and 11.04.
[18:14] <Kyle__> Tynach: 11 worked with EFI.  It was strange, but it worked.
[18:14] <Tynach> Kyle__, and 12.04 doesn't? Isn't that a regression?
[18:15] <MadarChodBhosDK> How to know if i installed Gnome3 ppa  and how to remove it?
[18:15] <Kyle__> Tynach: It may be.  I'm testing really quick on a VM with a standard bios.
[18:15] <dontknow> how can i change selected items orange colour. I did in gconf-editor "gnome => desktop => interface" and added "gtk-color-scheme" and added colr code but it doesn't effect!?
[18:15] <Tynach> Kyle__, alright. I'd do the same, except all my VM testing I do is on my desktop which, well... Can't boot, can't test.
[18:16] <guest_128> Someone here?
[18:16] <Tynach> dontknow, try installing the "Gnome Tweak Tool". From there you can customize color settings.
[18:16] <ikonia> guest_128: 1400+ people are
[18:16] <dayNnight> Lovely
[18:16] <dayNnight> I am using an open proxy right now
[18:16] <Tynach> guest_128, there are 1660 people here total.
[18:16] <dontknow> Tynach, i installed it and i didn't see any color costumising
[18:16] <WalterN> 1,660 ppl
[18:16] <dayNnight> but for some reason that doesnt work for IcqNet
[18:16] <dayNnight> Someone knows why, or what else to use?
[18:17] <ikonia> dayNnight: this channel is for ubuntu technical support only
[18:17] <ikonia> dayNnight: please keep to within that topic
[18:17] <dayNnight> Well, all other channels/forums are dead
[18:17] <dayNnight> I thought one of you might know this
[18:17] <Tynach> dontknow, you're right. I just double checked, and it doesn't have it. Lame.
[18:17] <ikonia> dayNnight: that doesn't mean here is acceptable
[18:17] <dontknow> Tynach, where is the color change section in tweak tool
[18:17] <ikonia> dayNnight: sorry, we stick within ubuntu technical support in here
[18:17] <dontknow> Tynach, yes
[18:17] <dayNnight> Jeez, why so strict
[18:17] <ikonia> dayNnight: sorry, those are the rules
[18:18] <MadarChodBhosDK> How to remove Gnome3 ppa
[18:18] <dayNnight> I use Ubuntu and Xchat anyways. So no-one knows something to try, except for Tor or Open proxys?
[18:18] <dontknow> how can i change selected items orange colour. I did in gconf-editor "gnome => desktop => interface" and added "gtk-color-scheme" and added colr code but it doesn't effect!? No one knows about this?!!
[18:18] <ikonia> dayNnight: sorry, I don't appear to be making myself clear
[18:19] <ikonia> dayNnight: this is not an ubuntu issue, so not ontopic for this channel
[18:19] <kelvin911> hi how to retrieve my nickname password?
[18:19] <ikonia> kelvin911: from where ?
[18:19] <kelvin911> from reenode
[18:19] <kelvin911> freenode
[18:19] <ikonia> kelvin911: ask in #freenode
[18:19] <kelvin911> thx
[18:20] <yeats> MadarChodBhosDK: open the software center, go to Edit -> Software Sources, click  on the Other Software tab and unclick the PPA
[18:20] <dayNnight> Ignore me if you please. seriously
[18:20] <bazhang> dayNnight, #freenode NOT here
[18:20] <ikonia> dayNnight: no, follow the rules
[18:20] <dayNnight> the rules are a bit old then
[18:20] <MadarChodBhosDK> yeats:trying that....
[18:21] <guest_128> That was unnecessary
[18:21] <L3top> MadarChodBhosDK: if not, check the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list.d   it can probably be deleted from there.
[18:21] <prateekp> what is the command to remove a directory
[18:21] <Tynach> prateekp, rm -r foldername
[18:22] <Tynach> The -r is for 'recursive'.
[18:22] <prateekp> rm -rf i guess u mean
[18:22] <ntyp> prateekp: it it's empty, `rmdir`. if it's not empty, use `rm -R` or `rm -r` (both works)
[18:22] <ntyp> for more details use `man rm` or `man rmdir`
[18:22] <Tynach> prateekp, the 'f' part of that will FORCE deleting files that you might want to keep. If you want to be safe, just use rm -r.
[18:23] <ntyp> i never use rm -f except it is absolutely necessary
[18:23] <prateekp> ok
[18:23] <Tynach> Because rm -r will ask you "Are you sure you want to delete this file (y/n)?"
[18:23] <Tynach> And rm -rf will just say "IMMA DELETE EVERYTHING MUAHAHAHA!!!".
[18:23] <ntyp> linux is like a good soldier
[18:24] <ntyp> if tell it to `rm -Rf /`, it says, yes sir
[18:24] <As001> Hi my MOSART Semi. USB Composite Device Keyboard does not work while mouse is working can you help me
[18:24] <bastidrazor> !danger
[18:24] <bastidrazor> !ops
[18:24] <rahulwadh> hey
[18:24] <ikonia> bastidrazor: ok ok
[18:25] <bastidrazor> oops.. i missed it.
[18:25] <bastidrazor> ikonia: yeah, i didn't read the scroll.
[18:25] <ikonia> ntyp: careful, don't post stuff like that incase people try it
[18:25] <ikonia> bastidrazor: it's fine
[18:25] <Tynach> ikonia, Kyle__: I just finished the reinstallation, and it gives the same error.
[18:25] <Tynach> Here's the full error:
[18:25] <ntyp> u're right, i should take more care
[18:25] <ikonia> Tynach: don't paste it
[18:25] <ikonia> Tynach: use a pastebin
[18:25] <ikonia> ntyp: thanks
[18:25] <rahulwadh> i am using windows 8 and now i want to shift to ubuntu 12.04 or linux mint maya i have tried everything but it never boots up\
[18:25] <Tynach> It's one line, but ok.
[18:25] <ntyp> ikonia: nothing for, it my fault. thanks for the hint
[18:25] <ntyp> +was
[18:25] <ikonia> Tynach: one line is fine
[18:26] <escott> rahulwadh, details
[18:26] <Fisher> I usually know how to fix repository errors but this one has got me, can someone take a look. http://paste.ubuntu.com/996072/
[18:26] <thebishop> hi, mounting ntfs with fstab seems broken.  i'm using the entry below, and i get an error on boot to skip mounting: UUID=d1a13949-f2a0-4c73-8177-6ca6da7a5caf /mnt/storage          ntfs-3g auto,users,uid=0,gid=1000,umask=000,rw   0 0
[18:26] <As001> I can see it in dmesg output but keyboeard does not work at all.
[18:26] <shawe> rahulwadh, did you get a black screen on boot?
[18:26] <MadarChodBhosDK> yeats : there is no such option in that tab,
[18:26] <rahulwadh> i tried booting it with cd,dvd,flash drive it says reboot to finish installing but after that it never boots up
[18:26] <rahulwadh> yes i got a pure black screen
[18:27] <MadarChodBhosDK> maybe the gnome3 tools is not installed
[18:27] <shawe> what graphic card do you have?
[18:27] <thebishop> rahulwadh, is this a laptop?
[18:27] <L3top> MadarChodBhosDK: if not, check the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list.d it can probably be deleted from there.
[18:27] <shawe> maybe is a driver problem
[18:27] <omerta> hi all
[18:27] <Tynach> error: no such device: 3420f7fa-d0a0-4f89-8d65-c40868337d5b.
[18:27] <L3top> MadarChodBhosDK: you will need to run update afterwards
[18:27] <thebishop> rahulwadh, i have a laptop which boots fine, but the brightness defaults to 0, boost up the brightness and it works
[18:27] <rahulwadh> yes it is a laptop and i have ati 512 mb graphics card
[18:27] <ikonia> Tynach: ok, look at what that device is
[18:27] <rahulwadh> wait a sec m trying
[18:27] <Tynach> Then the next line has "grub rescue> _" with the _ being a blinking cursor.
[18:28] <escott> thebishop, verify the uuid by running sudo blkid
[18:28] <Tynach> ikonia, I have no idea how to do that. I am not familiar with the grub command line.
[18:28] <omerta> what is the best site for ubuntu newbies??
[18:28] <rahulwadh> oh thanks alot i have been trying this since lst 2 days n its only a brightness problem
[18:28] <shawe> rahulwadh, try pressing CTRL+ALT+F1 when screen goes black, if you can see a terminal, it is working
[18:28] <rahulwadh> thanks alot
[18:28] <ikonia> Tynach: you'll need to boot into a livecd and look using "blkid"
[18:28] <Node_556> alguem me ajuda ??
[18:28] <ikonia> Tynach: you may want to consider changing the device path to /dev/sda2 or whatever you want it to be
[18:28] <thebishop> escott, oh shit... thanks a lot, the disk isn't ntfs after all
[18:28] <rahulwadh> i wish i could do repay u if i can
[18:28] <shawe> you can see on /var/log/Xorg.0.log what is happening
[18:28] <thebishop> escott, /me is dumb
[18:28] <Node_556> Brazil ??
[18:28] <ikonia> Tynach: I suspect your lvm disk isn't starting quick enough to be seen
[18:28] <Node_556> Help me
[18:28] <Node_556> Help me
[18:28] <FloodBot1> Node_556: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:28] <ikonia> Node_556: stop
[18:29] <rahulwadh> windows suck\
[18:29] <DJones> !br | Node_556
[18:29] <Tynach> ikonia, because I'm using LVM, I presume I'll need to use a LiveCD that is not Ubuntu? Ubuntu LiveCD doesn't come with LVM.
[18:29] <ikonia> rahulwadh: don't need that sort of nonsense here
[18:29] <As001> can you tell me configuration file for X so I can try to set it
[18:29] <ikonia> Tynach: ahh, I take your point
[18:29] <ikonia> As001: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[18:29] <ikonia> Tynach: are you using any form of raid by any chance
[18:30] <Fisher> linux mint 13 meya rc in the wild.
[18:30] <Kyle__> Tynach: Ubuntu alternate
[18:30] <kelvinella> hi
[18:30] <L3top> ikonia: couldn't Tynach install LVM from the live disk?
[18:30] <Tynach> ikonia, not really, but I'm using LVM as a sort of RAID. Here's a description of my setup: https://plus.google.com/u/0/110992079327865803047/posts/eYfhiK4Gecr
[18:30] <shawe> rahulwadh, its backlight to 0 on start?
[18:30] <Tynach> Kyle__, the alternate installer isn't exactly a LiveCD.
[18:31] <ikonia> L3top: no, not without a signigicant error
[18:31] <ikonia> L3top: significant effort sorrt
[18:31] <Kyle__> Tynach: Good point, was thinking installing :)
[18:31] <Node_556> thankz DJones
[18:31] <Fisher> ActionParsnip, I usually know how to fix repository errors but this one has got me, can someone take a look. http://paste.ubuntu.com/996072/
[18:31] <Kyle__> Tynach: you're using lvm mirroring, but not on /boot, right?  lvm mirroring on boot can cause a system to be non-bootable.
[18:31] <MadarChodBhosDK> L3top: Here are the contents of etc/apt/sources.list.d/oneiric.partner.list------> http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu precise partner #Added by software-center
[18:31] <Tynach> L3top, I probably could, good point. ikonia, you sure? I thought as long as you had enough RAM (I have 6GB), you could install stuff in the LiveCD session. Kyle__, alternate installer is what I used to install; and just went through the reinstall, with the same issue.
[18:32] <shawe> if "problem" persists, you can put on rc.local a command for replace brightness to 100% on boot, isn't the best solution, but you don't need to do it manually anymore
[18:32] <Tynach> Kyle__, no, not mirroring, striping. And /boot is a normal ext4 partition.
[18:32] <DaDaDOSPrompt> update manager moving slowly for anyone else today?
[18:32] <ikonia> Tynach: ok, so here are some things to consider
[18:32] <DaDaDOSPrompt> I pressed check a while ago and it is going nuts on me
[18:32] <DaDaDOSPrompt> downloads are quite slow, but nothing else is
[18:32] <L3top> MadarChodBhosDK: is there anything else in /etc/apt/sources.list.d other than that?
[18:33] <ikonia> Tynach: you have partitions for the the LVM section, are their partition types marked as "LVM"
[18:33] <Tynach> ikonia, yes. They are.
[18:33] <Kyle__> Tynach: OK.  I thought you said that before, just wanted to make sure :)    Never tried lvm striping myself...
[18:33] <MadarChodBhosDK> L3top: yes
[18:33] <ikonia> Tynach: I'm not being funny - I'm just checking all is well, so "how do you know", or what are you doing to check/confirm that
[18:33] <ikonia> Tynach: I'm only asking as a lot of people make this sort of mistake
[18:33] <MadarChodBhosDK> oniericpartner-list.distupgrade-------------->deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu precise partner #Added by software-center
[18:34] <ActionParsnip> Fisher: run the commands at step 5 here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PackageManagerTroubleshootingProcedure
[18:34] <Fisher> ty
[18:34] <prateekp> i was installing eclipse i follwed all the steps given on link http://colinrrobinson.com/technology/install-eclipse-ubuntu/ but at the execution it says an error
[18:34] <L3top> I said is there anything ELSE, meaning other than that MadarChodBhosDK. MadarChodBhosDK: if it were me, I would delete everything in the sources.list.d directory and update.
[18:34] <Kyle__> ikonia: They actually don't need to be marked LVM.  I do it anyway, but that part isn't necesasary.  Usually.
[18:35] <ikonia> Kyle__: it really depends,
[18:35] <prateekp> the error is bash: /opt/eclipse/eclipse: cannot execute binary file
[18:35] <Tynach> ikonia, I understand, this is all troubleshooting :) And, I simply remember in the Alternate installer, because I redid the LVM. I made sure to only use my two LVM partitions; right now just the 200 GB and the 100GB from the 500GB that partially has Windows on it (if you read my Google+ post that I linked).
[18:35] <Kyle__> prateekp: Are you sure you're using the right version?  32bit for 32bit, amd64 for amd64?
[18:36] <ikonia> Tynach: how are you confirming the partition type is set to LBM
[18:36] <ikonia> LVM
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> prateekp: does the file exist and is it executabl
[18:36] <MadarChodBhosDK> L3top: there are two files in that directory each with the same content....I am trying deleting and updating now
[18:36] <prateekp> yes it exist and is executable
[18:36] <prateekp> but nothing happens on double clicking it
[18:36] <domino14> if theres a program that is doing a very bad job of fragmenting memory, can i see the total memory usage of the process with ps aux?
[18:37] <Tynach> ikonia, right now I'm still at the grub rescue> prompt. How would you recommend I confirm? Because right now I'm just going off memory, which I understand is insufficient.
[18:37] <Kyle__> prateekp: Try running file on it.  file /opt/eclipse/eclipse or whatever it is.
[18:37] <L3top> MadarChodBhosDK: also check that cat /etc/apt/sources.list does not contain any PPAs
[18:37] <ikonia> Tynach: I'm guessing based on experience (and I should say this is only a guess) the second disk in your LVM config isn't spinning up fast enough for the volume to start at boot time
[18:37] <domino14> or is that inaccurate? if free -m shows that theres 2 gb of memory left, but it's super fragmented, do i know this info?
[18:37] <L3top> man thats clever ikonia. Wouldn't have occurred to me.
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> prateekp: what is the output of: uname -a; file /opt/eclipse/eclipse
[18:38] <Tynach> ikonia, interesting. It worked for 11.10 though.
[18:38] <ikonia> Tynach: you may want to use a livecd, install lvm and manually assemble the volume group, mount the logical volume and verify it's integrity
[18:38] <escott> domino14, you can access the raw memory map in /proc/PID there might be a tool to measure fragmentation of that
[18:38] <ikonia> Tynach: also verify the grub config
[18:38] <Tynach> ikonia, will do. On that note, how do I verify the grub config?
[18:38] <prateekp> the output of 'file /opt/eclipse/eclipse': ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.4.0, not stripped
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> domino14: fragmented memory?
[18:38] <ikonia> Tynach: try setting the grub configs root to /dev/vg00/root_lv or what ever it's called
[18:39] <Kyle__> ikonia: Box with lots of fast scsi drives starting staggered?
[18:39] <domino14> escott: free -m shows theres about 17% of memory usage, but my program is crashing because of "out of memory", which makes no sense, right?
[18:39] <andrew_> word?
[18:39] <domino14> ActionParsnip: i dont know, im out of ideas
[18:39] <ikonia> Kyle__: I'm guessing, nothing more, as I have no info to work with
[18:39] <MadarChodBhosDK> L3top: no there are only precise universe multiverse links in /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:39] <domino14> can ram get really fragmented so an allocator cant find contiguous blocks?
[18:39] <Kyle__> ikonia: Ah.  I was wondering where you've experienced that, and that's the only situation I coudl think of.
[18:39] <domino14> am i just pulling that out of somewhere?
[18:39] <ActionParsnip> prateekp: and: uname -a
[18:39] <Kyle__> prateekp: And what does uname -a say?
[18:39] <ikonia> Tynach: look at the grub grub.cfg and make sure it's pointing at vaid devices,
[18:40] <prateekp> Linux papri 2.6.38-8-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Mon Apr 11 03:31:50 UTC 2011 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[18:40] <escott> domino14, it would be almost impossible on 64bit. but on 32bit R would do that all the time because it tried to malloc a contiguous array, but could not because its virtual address space is fragmented. usually programs are better about that and give a more accurate error message
[18:40] <Tynach> ikonia, I have the volume group named vg_root and the logical volume named lv_root. Booting into the LiveCD right now.
[18:40] <Kyle__> prateekp: You've got a 32bit kernel, and installed the 64bit version of ecplise.  Download and install the 32bit version of eclipse.
[18:40] <ActionParsnip> domino14: the memory management in the kernel will prevent that
[18:40] <L3top> ok MadarChodBhosDK, do whatever it was you were doing that brought you here to begin with after update is finished
[18:40] <ikonia> Tynach: yhou may want to consider (just a thought) changing the grub root option to /dev/vg_root/lv_root
[18:40] <ikonia> Tynach: that will remove any possability the uuid is wrong
[18:40] <prateekp> ok so does it mean that 32 bit application runs on my OS
[18:41] <prateekp> and one more thing how u get to know that my kernel is 32 bit
[18:41] <Kyle__> prateekp: Yes.  It means only 32bit applications can run.
[18:41] <Kyle__> prateekp: Because it said i686.
[18:41] <MadarChodBhosDK> L3top: ok...
[18:41] <prateekp> and what is for 64 bit
[18:41] <ActionParsnip> Kyle__: thanks, typing on a GT540 is hard with these thumbs
[18:41] <prateekp> ?
[18:41] <Tynach> ikonia, when I was trying to reinstall grub manually, I used the alternate installer to get into a root environment using /dev/vg_root/lv_root. Here is the command I used:
[18:41] <Tynach> grub-install --root-directory=/ /dev/sda
[18:42] <Kyle__> prateekp: The 64bit 86 kernels all say x86_64
[18:42] <zykotick9> prateekp: 64bit is x86_64
[18:42] <Kyle__> ActionParsnip: No problem.  I _hate_ complex typing with my thumbs.
[18:42] <ActionParsnip> prateekp: x86_64
[18:42] <Kyle__> or typing period with them.../
[18:42] <Tynach>  / at the time was the filesystem in /dev/vg_root/lv_root, and I also had previously mounted /dev/sda5 (the 100 MB /boot partition) to /boot.
[18:42]  * L3top resists temptation 
[18:43] <ikonia> Tynach: root isn't /dev/sda
[18:43] <Tynach> ikonia, read my line again. --root-directory=/
[18:43] <Tynach> Note the 'slash'.
[18:43] <Tynach> /dev/sda was the device I installed grub to.
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> Kyle__: handy on bus journeys :-)
[18:43] <Kyle__> grub supports booting off of an LVM /boot now... will the ubuntu installer let you do it?
[18:44] <ikonia> Kyle__: didn't think it did support that
[18:44] <Kyle__> ActionParsnip: I hear ya.
[18:44] <Tynach> Kyle__, I kept hearing that from people in #debian, but I'm not going to risk it.
[18:44] <Kyle__> ikonia: Grub does, but most distro-installers don't.
[18:44] <Kyle__> Tynach: That's how I found out not to LVM mirror /boot
[18:45] <JD_ML> .
[18:46] <retis> hi,i was trying from my terminal to install sun-jdk by "sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk sun-java6-jre " ...command but getting this error...http://paste.ubuntu.com/996248/.......need solution please.
[18:47] <Kyle__> retis: they no longer carry the sun jdk in the repos.
[18:47] <prateekp> what does i386 means
[18:48] <L3top> open-jdk or go to oracle to get it
[18:48] <JD_ML> .
[18:48] <escott> prateekp, 32bit
[18:48] <prateekp> is it 32 bit
[18:48] <prateekp> ok
[18:48] <prateekp> can i run 32 bit on 64 bit
[18:48] <escott> prateekp, yes
[18:48] <tomtiger11> yep
[18:48] <prateekp> k
[18:48] <Kyle__> retis: You need to download the .bin, install it, then update-alternatives for each part of it.  Not the most fun thing in the world, but it's not too hard.
[18:48] <ment0s> prateekp: applications only
[18:49] <prateekp> ment0s: ?
[18:49] <ment0s> prateekp: you can run programs 32bit on 64bit machine but drivers etc have to be 64 bit
[18:49] <prateekp> ok
[18:49] <prateekp> can u give me example of drivers
[18:50] <Tynach> ikonia, what packages for lvm support do I need? Just lvm2?
[18:50] <Kyle__> prateekp: anything that shows up when you type lsmod as root
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> Libs, not drivers
[18:50] <ikonia> Tynach: it should pull in all dependencies
[18:50] <ment0s> there are thousand of them :P
[18:50] <Tynach> ikonia, only dependancy is 'watershed', whatever that is.
[18:51] <ikonia> Tynach: I have no idea what that is
[18:51] <Tynach> Well, it's installing.
[18:51] <ment0s> lspci shows you your pci devices attached to computer and lsusb shows you usb devices
[18:51] <hdhzero> hi everyone. I would like to know if exists a smart cd with an ncurses interface or similar
[18:51] <Kyle__> Tynach: I forgot to tell it not to grab updates while installing, so that VM test is still chugging along on the install.
[18:51] <escott> hdhzero, smart cd?
[18:52] <Kyle__> ment0s: and dmidecode shows everything your bios sees.
[18:52] <JD_ML> JD_ML
[18:52] <Tynach> ikonia, Kyle__, I successfully mounted the logical volume. It's working fine.
[18:52] <lund> retis, i used this method http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html
[18:52] <ikonia> Tynach: ok, look at your lvm tab
[18:52] <ikonia> Tynach: look at it's uuid
[18:52] <ikonia> verify that against the grub config
[18:53] <hdhzero> Just as nautilus has / > home > user > folder, I was wondering if there is something with a cli interface
[18:53] <Tynach> ikonia, what tool do I use to do that?
[18:53] <escott> hdhzero, midnight commander
[18:53] <ikonia> Tynach: blkid
[18:53] <dontknow> could someone have a look at system monitor's process section and tell me if you see "gconfd-2" process?
[18:53] <JD_ML> JD_ML is here
[18:54] <escott> dontknow, yes
[18:54] <lund> dontknow, yes
[18:54] <dontknow> escott, thanks
[18:54] <ment0s> dontknow: I see
[18:54] <dontknow> thanks you all :D
[18:56] <Diddy403> sup sup
[18:57] <Tynach> ikonia, blkid is only showing anything for the root filesystem of the live cd.
[18:57] <Diddy403> quick question before I install Ubuntu 12, can I turn off Unity and use Gnome 3 instead?
[18:57] <Tynach> Ah, there we go. Ran it as root.
[18:57] <dontknow> anyone here using cinnamon?
[18:57] <gridbag> what is the name of the apt-get project for "alsa" ?
[18:57] <ikonia> dontknow: it's not available on ubuntu
[18:57] <L3top> !nounity | Diddy403
[18:58] <dontknow> ikonia, i installed and using right now
[18:58] <Diddy403> ubottu, I love you
[18:58] <ikonia> dontknow: what repo did you pull it from
[18:58] <dontknow> ikonia, wait a sec
[18:58] <Diddy403> last time I ran linux was Debian Sarge, has a lot changed since then?
[18:59] <Tynach> ikonia, I cannot find any partitions or filesystems that match the hex string that grub error'd on.
[18:59] <ikonia> Tynach: ok, so that suggests it's looking for a non-existant device
[18:59] <zeidoz> gridbag: did you use apt-cache to search?  i see a package "alsa-base"
[18:59] <JD_ML> .
[18:59] <Tynach> ikonia, is it possible that it's the left-over grub installation from 11.10 that's actually booting up?
[18:59] <Tynach> And it's not even booting my new installation of grub?
[18:59] <JD_ML> JD_ML
[18:59] <ikonia> Tynach: it's more likley something in the upgrade/post upgrade has changed the uuid and now it's not valid
[19:00] <ikonia> JD_ML: please stop that
[19:00] <Tynach> If so, how would I check for all grub installations on all drives?
[19:00] <L3top> !ot | Diddy403
[19:00] <JD_ML> i'm testing
[19:00] <Tynach> ikonia, but wouldn't a grub-install blahblah and update-grub fix that?
[19:00] <JD_ML> im new here
[19:00] <dontknow> ikonia, "ppa:gwendal-lebihan-dev/cinnamon-stable" this one
[19:00] <ikonia> JD_ML: then please stop
[19:00] <ikonia> dontknow: ahh, some random guys PPA, ok, so it's not an ubuntu package
[19:00] <dontknow> ikonia, no no
[19:00] <JD_ML> and i need set my colors
[19:00] <ikonia> JD_ML: ok, well this channel is for ubuntu technical discussion only, so please don't test
[19:01] <dontknow> anyone here can activate ALT+F2 on cinnamon?
[19:01] <JD_ML> so were can i testing. tell me pls
[19:01] <ikonia> JD_ML: #test
[19:01] <Diddy403> !apt-get
[19:01] <ikonia> Tynach: depends on a lot of things, the easy thing to do is update your grub config and see if it makes a difference
[19:01] <xyzzymaze> Greetings all .. sorry if it's been asked, but has it been tough to get updates from the repos?  thanks ..
[19:01] <ment0s>  ok Guys I i'll need a little help with hp all-in-one desktop .. ubuntu 9 runs perfectly on it and no issues noticed but when i upgrade to 12 or 10 version Im getting black screen and its no possible to go terminal by alt+3 etc .., I can only run it with nomodeset option but then I have no acceleration and graphic is so slow. I thought its because of LightDM so I have removed it but still the same on GDM.. also I have insta
[19:02] <Tynach> ikonia, heh. Alright.
[19:02] <ikonia> Tynach: I'm not being lazy, it's just an easier check than working through the whole of the grub setup
[19:02] <JD_ML> i changed my color and i need reset it.
[19:02] <L3top> JD_ML: /join #myveryowntest
[19:03] <lanceio> how do I add another entry into gdm?
[19:04] <JD_ML> #test
[19:04] <Diddy403> Can I use the Wubi installer to do a dual-boot scenario?
[19:04] <Tynach> ikonia, I understand. I tried a grub-install, by the way, and found this peculiar problem: http://pastebin.com/bAtPDVNj
[19:04] <JD_ML> tks everyone
[19:04] <lanceio> Diddy403, yes
[19:04] <Diddy403> thanks lanceio
[19:04] <JD_ML> by. im going to learn more to go back here
[19:04] <lanceio> thats what its used for
[19:05] <ikonia> Tynach: never seen that before, not sure what the reference to flexnet is about
[19:06] <wilee-nilee> Diddy403, it is theoretically a dualboot it may run slower, and will only be a file in windows.
[19:06] <Tynach> ikonia, I know that Maya (3D program) uses a system called FlexLM for DRM. But that was older versions; newer versions don't use it. Is there a way to override that decision and use 'sector 55' anyway?
[19:06] <ikonia> Tynach: flexlm is totally different, don't confuse that
[19:06] <ikonia> Tynach: that's a distributed method
[19:06] <escott> Tynach, you could dd over the mbr including sector 55. that way grub won't find any flexnet data
[19:07] <ikonia> escott: careful this is an lvm locical volume, so don't remove the lvm header
[19:12] <Tynach> ikonia, I 'man update-grub''d, and according to it it's a stub for grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg. So I tried grub-mkconfig -o /media/biglonghexfolderformountedlv/boot/grub/grub.cfg.
[19:12] <Tynach> And I got this error: /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?).
[19:13] <escott> Tynach, you should do that from within a chrot
[19:13] <escott> chroot
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> Tynach: did you chroot?
[19:14] <Tynach> escott, ActionParsnip, I've done chroot a few times before, and it's always been a hassle (and following a guide strictly). My understanding is that if I only chroot, it will not bring /dev and so forth with it.
[19:14] <escott> Tynach, mount --bind /dev /media/chroot/dev
[19:14] <Tynach> escott, I presume I'd have to do that BEFORE I chroot, yes?
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> Tynach: omgubuntu sticking it to grub is a great grub how to
[19:15] <Tynach> ActionParsnip, link?
[19:15] <escott> Tynach, /media/chroot path wont exist inside the chroot
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/live-usb-sticking-grub-2-video/
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> Tynach: searching for what I said would have found you that.....
[19:17] <duckx0r> is there a channel specific for wine or should I ask a problem in here?
[19:17] <Dr_Willis_> !wine
[19:18] <Aha2Y> Guys, i want to install openssh-server on my ubuntu. But it seems not to be available :>
[19:18] <duckx0r> thanks Dr_Willis
[19:18] <ikonia> Tynach: you'll need /proc and devfs mounted to contain those devices
[19:18] <ikonia> Tynach: back shortly
[19:19] <ment0s> !cedega
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> Aha2Y: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[19:19] <Dr_Willis> Aha2Y:  its there.. look again.
[19:19] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[19:19] <Aha2Y> hmkay.
[19:19] <Aha2Y> ty.
[19:19] <Dr_Willis> !info openssh-server
[19:19] <Aha2Y> May i know what FloodBot# does?
[19:20] <ment0s> kicking ass*s :P
[19:20] <Dr_Willis> eats people that flood.
[19:20] <auronandace> Aha2Y: prevent people flooding the channel
[19:20] <Aha2Y> ah
[19:20] <Dr_Willis> name should be AntiFloodBot. :)
[19:20] <Aha2Y> Indeed :P
[19:20] <Aha2Y> And three as backup? :D
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> Aha2Y: stops people spamming the channel with multiline pastes when they don't think
[19:21] <Dr_Willis> netsplits happen.
[19:21] <Aha2Y> ah :)
[19:21] <Aha2Y> Smart :)
[19:21] <ment0s> Thats why you gotta use pastebin for more lines
[19:23] <KomiaPoi1a> hi
[19:23] <KomiaPoi1a> how can i kill X in Ubuntu 10.04 to install nvidia drivers by hand?
[19:23] <KomiaPoi1a> it keeps restarting
[19:23] <ment0s> /etc/init.d/lightdm stop
[19:23] <auronandace> ment0s: 10.04 uses gdm, not lightdm
[19:23] <ment0s> right
[19:23] <escott> ment0s, KomiaPoi1a, sudo service lightdm stop
[19:24] <ment0s> then gdm stop
[19:24] <KomiaPoi1a> aah
[19:24] <KomiaPoi1a> thx
[19:25] <KomiaPoi1a> and how can i keep the nice fonts of the terminal console after installing nvidia drivers? whenever I install nvidia, the fonts in the console become ascii
[19:26] <auronandace> KomiaPoi1a: you should be using the nvidia drivers from the repo (which don't require that you drop to text mode to install them)
[19:26] <_raven> id like to generate a level/spectrum illustration (video) of an audio file. any ideas how to do it for example with the vlc visualization plugins in non-realtime?
[19:27] <ment0s> whereis xorg.conf in 12.04 ?
[19:27] <auronandace> ment0s: not automatically generated
[19:27] <escott> ment0s, for many drivers its not needed
[19:27] <KomiaPoi1a> auronandace: it's an old pc and last time i did that i had issues
[19:27] <auronandace> ment0s: /etc/X11/xorg.conf (if you make it, it will be obeyed)
[19:28] <milaz> hi, everybody!
[19:28] <ment0s> great :), could you just remind me what was the option to specify xorg.conf from different location ?
[19:28] <terafl0ps> _raven, it's a bit of a hack, but I bet you could just use recordMyDesktop to capture a window that has your favorite visualization display running.
[19:29] <sisar> Ctrl+ArrowKey to cycle between tabs in Firefox does not work for me.
[19:29] <sisar> what should i do?
[19:30] <_raven> terafl0ps i know but i need to do it non-realtime because theese files are 2 to 4 hours
[19:30] <sisar> (the shortcut is mentioned on http://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/Keyboard%20shortcuts )
[19:31] <zykotick9> sisar: try ctrl+TAB
[19:31] <rly> Is there a way to configure Ubuntu such that it doesn't ask me whether or not to restart certain services during a distribution upgrade started via the GUI?
[19:31] <pourquoi> salut
[19:31] <escott> _raven, you might see if gnu octave has some ability to do this
[19:31] <sisar> zykotick9: that works. But any idea why the arrow keys don't work ?
[19:32] <Zally666> howto ubuntu + mobile phone tv serfver
[19:32] <Tynach> ikonia, what is devfs? I can't find it in root.
[19:32] <Zally666> *server
[19:32] <milaz> sisar: that shortcut is for __moving__ tabs, not for cycling through them
[19:32] <milaz> sisar: for cycling, there's CTRL+PgDn or CTRL+PgU[
[19:32] <rly> My upgrade windows says there is about 1 day and one hour (!) remaining.
[19:32] <gpharos> Looking for the mythbuntu IRC channel
[19:33] <sisar> milaz: yeas. right. but still, for moving tabs, the arrow keys don't work
[19:33] <sisar> *yes
[19:33] <auronandace> !mythbuntu | gpharos
[19:33] <milaz> sisar: press Tab until tab caption is in focus
[19:33] <milaz> sisar: then, CTRL+Arrow works
[19:33] <_raven> escott did you already work with octave?
[19:34] <sisar> milaz: oh. Thanks !
[19:34] <sisar> milaz++
[19:34] <milaz> sisar: you are welcome
[19:34] <Enissay> Hi, I just updated my system, and chrome now is asking for upgrading flash... I downloaded it but I dont know how to install it correctly... any help please?
[19:34] <KomiaPoi1a> how do i disable Nouveau kernel driver?
[19:34] <rly> Is there some software which records my desktop and audio, but also actually works (as opposed to recordmydesktop)?
[19:35] <escott> _raven, ive used it before
[19:35] <whiskers75> rly: istanbul?
[19:35] <escott> _raven, but not for this
[19:35] <milaz> KomiaPoi1a: blacklist it and then 'sudo update-initramfs -u'
[19:35] <Tynach> rly, recordmydesktop works fine for me. But you have to configure it.
[19:35] <_raven> escott could you help me how to find out how this could work?
[19:35] <KomiaPoi1a> milaz: how do i blacklist it?
[19:35] <_raven> escott i know nothing about this yet
[19:35] <Conradzz> Is there a way to revert previous updates?
[19:36] <escott> _raven, i honestly have no idea how this would be done, and matlab syntax is a pain so it might not be worth it
[19:36] <milaz> KomiaPoi1a: see /etc/modprobe.d/
[19:36] <milaz> KomiaPoi1a: there, create a file nouveau.conf
[19:36] <rly> Tynach: what parts are you talking about?
[19:37] <ment0s> anyone can help me with that graphic issue?
[19:37] <milaz> KomiaPoi1a: and put there a line 'blacklist nouveau'
[19:37] <rly> Tynach: I am talking about basic things like tearing, etc.
[19:37] <rly> Tynach: i.e., the quality stinks.
[19:37] <rly> !istanbul
[19:37] <milaz> KomiaPoi1a: or, just add that line to blacklist.conf
[19:38] <Tynach> rly, you have to make it record entire frames and so forth.
[19:38] <rly> whiskers75: can you point at a demo video recorded with that?
[19:38] <auronandace> !info istanbul | rly
[19:38] <KomiaPoi1a> milaz: thx
[19:38] <Tynach> rly, by default it won't record the entire frames, so it won't work properly in 3D desktop environments like Unity.
[19:38] <terafl0ps> _raven, have you seen this?  Maybe one of the non-realtime tools would work for you.  http://fourms.wiki.ifi.uio.no/Audio_analysis#Non-realtime_Visualization_Tools
[19:38] <whiskers75> rly: no dont have any.. sry
[19:39] <Tynach> Kyle__, ikonia: I chrooted and so forth, got this error: http://pastebin.com/AdtDeiyH
[19:39] <gpharos> Thank you, but I am trying to setup a Ceton Infinitv tuner using  the latest12.04  Mythbuntu  distro and trying to find an IRC channel for live help
[19:39] <_raven> terafl0ps tnx for the hint ill try that
[19:40] <terafl0ps> _raven, I've never used any of those myself though.
[19:40] <rly> Tynach: I would think that something that is distributed for Ubuntu (which has millions of installations) should you know... work in the default configuration.
[19:40] <milaz> can anybody help me?
[19:41] <milaz> after update to 12.04, i got stuttuttuteringringring video and audio playback
[19:41] <rly> Tynach: Ubuntu shouldn't even distribute such bad applications.
[19:41] <milaz> is there any ideas where should i look at to see what's wrong?
[19:41] <Conradzz> Does anyone have any suggestions on what I can do?  I ran the updates ubuntu asked, and after restarting I get a hard freeze and can't log in
[19:42] <rly> Conradzz: insert LiveCD
[19:42] <Conradzz> and then do what rly?
[19:42] <Tynach> rly, it's not because it's a bad program, it's because it's one of those 'not officially supported, but included' programs. For such programs, you're expected to know how to use the program before downloading it, and if you don't, you can always look online for more information.
[19:43] <milaz> in dmesg, i once got that: CE: hpet increased min_delta_ns to 20113 nsec
[19:43] <rly> Conradzz: I won't hold your hand. Someone else might want to do that. It's my opinion that Linux should work and otherwise it doesn't deserve to be popular.
[19:43] <Tynach> Ah, so you're basically a troll, rly.
[19:44] <milaz> and once the message was 'Clocksource tsc unstable (delta = 4686967280 ns)'
[19:44] <Conradzz> basically
[19:44] <milaz> 'Switching to clocksource acpi_pm'
[19:44] <rly> Tynach: no, if people decide to send out crap to consumers, it's their problem.
[19:44] <rly> Tynach: complain to Canonical.
[19:44] <terafl0ps> milaz, you wouldn't happen to be working in a virtual machine would you?
[19:44] <Tynach> rly, we aren't consumers. We aren't buying anything. If you bought official (over the phone) support from canonical, THEN you can complain. Until then, you aren't a consumer.
[19:45] <rly> I can point people in the right direction, but if an OS needs support, they already lost, imho.\
[19:45] <Conradzz> rly, why are you here?
[19:45] <Tynach> rly, I guess that means RedHat and Microsoft both already lost. They both need support.
[19:45] <rly> Tynach: and indeed they did.
[19:45] <milaz> terafl0ps: no, it's real machine
[19:45] <L3top> Which OS do you use that works ootb on absolutely everything? Where can I find this magic?
[19:45] <rly> Tynach: Microsoft is losing big time as we speak.
[19:45] <auronandace> !ot | rly
[19:46] <milaz> terafl0ps: first, i thought that virtualbox kernel modules can be causing that
[19:46] <Tynach> rly, in fact, you could go so far as to say that every OS in existence has lost. EVERY operating system needs support.
[19:46] <milaz> terafl0ps: so, i did a completely clean install onto a clean partition
[19:46] <auronandace> Tynach: stick to support pease
[19:46] <Tynach> Kyle__, ikonia, I've successfully fixed that error. Now, I'm going to have to know how to check my grub configuration to see if it's valid/working.
[19:46] <auronandace> please
[19:46] <Tynach> Sorry auronandace. Back to asking/answering questions.
[19:47] <Conradzz> Was there an update to X-org in the past 2-3 days?
[19:48] <milaz> terafl0ps: then, I ruled out video card drivers
[19:48] <milaz> that bug persists both with nouveau and nvidia
[19:48] <rly> Conradzz: I am fairly sure Ubuntu has some tool that allows you to see which upgrades you applied.
[19:49] <Conradzz> I'm viewing my dpkg.log right now and can see all the updates that were applied rly
[19:49] <john3voltas> greetings
[19:49] <rly> Conradzz: I think there's also some GUI frontend.
[19:49] <milaz> rly: in Ubuntu Software Center, there's History section
[19:49] <Conradzz> ubuntu software center I believe is suppsoe to be it
[19:49] <rly> milaz: which is integrated with dpkg.log, I hope?
[19:49] <Conradzz> ya, but for some reason it won't open
[19:50] <milaz> rly: i didn't check the sources, but that is very likely
[19:50] <Conradzz> I booted recovery partition, dropped into root, mounted filesystem, used startx
[19:50] <Conradzz> so basically I'm in ubuntu now, but with hardly any drivers, etc
[19:50] <rly> milaz: do you think it's reasonable for an upgrade to take >16 hours excluding the time to download?
[19:50] <john3voltas> i'm having problems with casper. i'm trying live-media=/dev/sda1 live-media-path=ubuntu and my ubuntu doesn't boot.
[19:51] <milaz> rly: absolutely not
[19:51] <wilee-nilee> rly, depends on your net speed.
[19:51] <john3voltas> took this info from http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man7/casper.7.html
[19:51] <rly> wilee-nilee: no, it does not.
[19:51] <rly> wilee-nilee: it would help if you would _read_.
[19:51] <Tynach> Ok, I looked through the grub config and I cannot for the life of me find any problems, or anywhere that it's looking for the UUID that it's choking on.
[19:51] <rly> milaz: well, that's the time it takes.
[19:51] <milaz> rly: why?
[19:51] <Tynach> So, anyone: is there a way to list all devices that have Grub installed on them? I would like to remove any other grub installations.
[19:51] <milaz> a lot of packages?
[19:51] <rly> milaz: because there is no ssd in this device.\
[19:51] <wilee-nilee> rly, if you had a dialup that was really slow it could take as long as it takes.
[19:52] <milaz> or some particular package?
[19:52] <rly> wilee-nilee: please take my advice.
[19:52] <TomatoKetchup> wilee-nilee, , he said excluding time to download
[19:52] <terafl0ps> milaz, that message about the unstable clock source rang a bell because I once had to configure a kernel to use acpi instead of the  programmable interrupt timer (pit) because my VM's always had time running too fast inside them.
[19:52] <rly> milaz: 3200 packages
[19:52] <terafl0ps> It was causing a number of programs to get confused.
[19:52] <rly> milaz: the basic problem is that is does way too many diskseeks, I think.
[19:53] <krababbel> rly: imagine doing it on floppies
[19:53] <wilee-nilee> TomatoKetchup, ah, lol what a friendly response from rly just makes you want to help. :)
[19:53] <milaz> terafl0ps: can you please give me some pointers how to do that?
[19:53] <rly> krababbel: I can also imagine doing it on punch cards. Can you be even more off-topic?
[19:53] <bugz__> i need help about mon0
[19:53] <milaz> terafl0ps: I can try that way to see if that works
[19:54] <milaz> rly: are you sure your HDD is not dying?
[19:54] <bugz__> i need help about mon0
[19:54] <terafl0ps> I really have no idea if that will help or not, but I just passed in a boot flag to do it in grub, like this: http://communities.vmware.com/thread/120931
[19:54] <milaz> rly: i had something similar before i lost my zeroth sector on HDD along with other valuable information
[19:54] <rly> milaz: I cannot be sure, but a 5400rpm disk simply isn't that fast.
[19:55] <bugz__> hhhhhhhhhhhheeeeeeeeeeeelllllllllpppppppppppppppp
[19:55] <rly> milaz: it's not a very large disk and as such has low cache and low-data density.
[19:55] <bugz__> i need help about mon0
[19:55] <rly> milaz: it's really just Ubuntu which is not efficient.
[19:55] <rly> milaz: the kernel is efficient, but the package management is not.
[19:56] <bugz__> can anyone help
[19:56] <bugz__> plz
[19:56] <OerHeks> bugz__, just ask your question, wait and see
[19:56] <milaz> rly: curiously< i'm having problem with kernel right now :)
[19:56] <Tynach> rly, you don't know what you're talking about, so if you aren't asking an Ubuntu related support question, you may not want to keep talking.
[19:56] <rly> Tynach: uhm, yes, I do know what I am talking about.\
[19:57] <rly> Tynach: who are you to say that I don't?
[19:57] <Tynach> I'm taking this to private message, because it's off topic to the channel.
[19:57] <bugz__> k my computer i have an error with mon0 on the command prompt and i am 13 and confused wat is wrong
[19:58] <Tynach> bugz__, what are you doing when you get the error?
[19:58] <milaz> terafl0ps: so, the flag was 'clocksource=acpi_pm' ?
[19:59] <bugz__> trying to get aircrack to work for my cousin
[19:59] <john3voltas> anyone can help me with my casper problem?
[19:59] <terafl0ps> milaz, you may want to double check that it's still called acpi_pm because I think Ubuntu runs a newer kernel than in that post, but yes.
[20:00] <milaz> terafl0ps: thank you
[20:00] <milaz> i'll try this
[20:00] <OerHeks> bugz__, i don't know about aircrack, good luck
[20:01] <bugz__> k
[20:01] <Conradzz> Does anyone know how I start my wireless card while I'm in startx?
[20:01] <OerHeks> * must be someone who does
[20:01] <bugz__> well wat about mon0 wat is that spicefically
[20:01] <terafl0ps> Conraddz, do you use the network manager in gnome?
[20:02] <Conradzz> normally when I start linux my drivers are loaded and I don't have to mess with my wifi
[20:03] <Conradzz> but with me having to boot into linux with startx, it seems to have not loaded it
[20:03] <pzn> I'm developing a gtk app to run in ubuntu, in a device with 800x480 screen size. I want to preview how it appearence will be. how can I set my notebook to have a 800x480 screen? this size is not available in the monitor configuration.
[20:04] <auronandace> Conradzz: sudo service gdm restart
[20:04] <milaz> pzn: why won't you just set the size of your window to 800x480?
[20:04] <auronandace> Conradzz: remember you stopped it earlier?
[20:04] <Conradzz> unrcognized service auronandace, no I didn't
[20:04] <pzn> milaz, all app windows work in "fullscreen" mode
[20:05] <auronandace> Conradzz: so you weren't the one trying to install nvidia drivers from commandline?
[20:05] <milaz> pzn: but, when debugging, you can set them to that size, won't you?
[20:05] <Conradzz> nope auronandace
[20:05] <bugz__> does anyone know what mon0 specificaly
[20:06] <terafl0ps> Does your wifi driver show up in the output from "lsmod"
[20:06] <terafl0ps> ?
[20:06] <pzn> milaz, not so easy to do... fullscreen windows have different toolboxes/menus behaviour
[20:06] <auronandace> Conradzz: ah, sorry, if you are using 11.10 or higher: sudo service lightdm restart
[20:06] <milaz> bugz__: it probably might help if you exactly quote the whole error message
[20:06] <rly> It turns out that Tynach is some 21 guy still in college without even a CS degree. I advice anyone to not enter any discussion with him.
[20:06] <Conradzz> the second I start up lightdm, I'll freeze auronandace
[20:06] <bugz__> if so plz k
[20:06] <milaz> pzn: oh, i see
[20:06] <auronandace> Conradzz: odd
[20:07] <pzn> milaz, if I install ubuntu inside a virtualbox, could I set the screensize to 800x480? does it make some difference between a real video card and a virtualbox video card?
[20:07] <Tynach> rly, that's important because..?
[20:08] <auronandace> rly, Tynach: please no personal attacks
[20:08] <milaz> pzn: I'd check it, but I'm working now on the system without virtualbox, trying to isolate one nasty bug :)
[20:09] <bond_> hi
[20:09] <chris_> hey
[20:09] <milaz> pzn: but you surely will have your program in full-screen mode
[20:09] <bond_> help hw to coneect to gmail?????????
[20:09] <milaz> pzn: while it will be in virtualbox window
[20:09] <pzn> milaz, then I'll try it. thanks!
[20:09] <milaz> pzn: you are welcome
[20:10] <rly> auronandace: Tynach started it, check log.
[20:10] <milaz> pzn: just out of curiosity, why the window must be exactly 800x480?
[20:10] <L3top> Why is rly still here?
[20:10] <milaz> pzn: do you plan to support another screen resolutions?
[20:10] <rly> auronandace: I already put him on my ignore list and as such I won't see what nonsense he has to say anyway.
[20:10] <auronandace> rly: i didn't ask who started, i ask you both to stop
[20:10] <pzn> milaz, because it is a touchscreen device... just 800x480 is available
[20:10] <bond_> how to connect gamil with irssi
[20:10] <Tynach> Yeah, it is true, I'm the one that said he didn't know what he was talking about. I'll admit to that, and I probably shouldn't have.
[20:11] <milaz> pzn: i mean, don't you plan to run it on different devices?
[20:11] <Tynach> shouldn't have said that, to be more exact.
[20:11] <Guest39420> linux deepin is awsome
[20:11] <Gnea> bond_: what's gamil?
[20:12] <bond_> gmail........
[20:12] <pzn> milaz, no, it is a dedicated equipment for lab purposes. I just don't have it with me right now... on monday I can run on the real device. today I'll have to develop with my notebook only :-)
[20:12] <rly> L3top: why are you still here?
[20:12] <Gnea> bond_: irssi is an irc client, not an email client
[20:12] <Conradzz> Anyone know how I start my wireless adapter from terminal?
[20:12] <milaz> pzn: i see :) good luck to you
[20:13] <freshone0> i want to format my hard disk it is 500 gb with 499 gb as one part and 1.1 gb as swap how to doit
[20:13] <Dr_Willis> Conradzz:  with the various iw* commands if its properly seen by the kernel
[20:13] <bond_> i mean gtalk to irssi   .....i m new
[20:13] <Dr_Willis> freshone0:  use gparted and arange it how you like.
[20:13] <Dr_Willis> freshone0:  or use 'fdisk' or 'cfdisk'
[20:13] <freshone0> i tried disk utility but it said that a partition is busy
[20:13] <L3top> The question was not aimed at you. Do you have a support question rly?
[20:14] <terafl0ps> Conraddz, also don't forget to switch on the card if this is a laptop with a physical switch for the card.  I've done that before...
[20:14] <Dr_Willis> freshone0:  you dont repartion filesystems that are in use normally
[20:14] <Dr_Willis> freshone0:  is there data on that drive you want to keep?
[20:14] <bond_> gnea
[20:14] <freshone0> no
[20:14] <freshone0> i want a new pc
[20:14] <Dr_Willis> freshone0:  so you are installing ubuntu to it?
[20:14] <rly> L3top: yes, how do I get rid of all the idiots (like you) to respond to me? They are ruining my experience in #ubuntu.
[20:14] <freshone0> i mean i wanna delete all data
[20:14] <Conradzz> terafl0ops it turns out I needed the command ifconfig wlan0 up
[20:15] <Gnea> bond_: you can't, gtalk uses xml and irc is plaintext
[20:15] <L3top> rly  /part
[20:15] <Dr_Willis> freshone0:  unmount the fileystems in use.. use gparted to delete the filesystems, apply changes, done. then remake them how you want.
[20:15] <rly> freshone0: secure deletion?
[20:15] <freshone0> i dont want to loose the ubuntu 12.04 i newly installed
[20:15] <Dr_Willis> freshone0:  so you have 1 or 2 hard drives?
[20:15] <freshone0> 1
[20:15] <bond_> ok  thanks
[20:15] <Gnea> bond_: wait
[20:15] <Gnea> bond_: I may be mistaken...
[20:15] <bond_> wat?
[20:16] <freshone0> it says i cannot unmount the partition
[20:16] <freshone0> as iam not the root
[20:16] <Gnea> bond_: yes, you can do gtalk with irssi. sorry, my bad: https://gist.github.com/709136
[20:16] <Dr_Willis> freshone0:  so... you need to clarify what it is you want to do exactly.   you just asked how to format the hard disk.. when aparently you mean you want to 'resize the filesystems'
[20:16] <rly> bond_: you could if you would write some addon to irssi (or use one written by someone else)
[20:16] <pzn> milaz, tks
[20:16] <Gnea> rly: done. :)
[20:16] <freshone0> i dont want to resize i just want to delete all files and data except for the operating system
[20:17] <bond_> okkk name some addon
[20:17] <Dr_Willis> freshone0:  now thats somthign differnt you just asked how to do. ;) So.. HOW is the disk partioned now?
[20:17] <Gnea> bond_: I just gave you the code
[20:17] <bond_> tnks gnea
[20:17] <L3top> freshone0: why wouldn't you just do a fresh install?
[20:17] <Gnea> cheers
[20:17] <freshone0> 499 and 1.1
[20:17] <freshone0> how does one do it
[20:17] <Gnea> freshone0: then it would be 498.9 and 1.1
[20:17] <Dr_Willis> freshone0:  so.. you want it how exactly? and how is it now?
[20:18] <Gnea> freshone0: also, how much RAM do you have?
[20:18] <Dr_Willis> freshone0:  a pastebin of 'sudo fdisk -l' output may help clarify things also.
[20:18] <OerHeks> freshone0, use a live cd, so the HDD is not mounted and you are free to do as you want
[20:19] <pzn> freshone0, swap can run on partitions and also on filesystems (filesystems swap performance is a little slower than partition swaps). try a filesystem partition.  dd if=/dev/zero of=/var/swapfile bs=1M count=1024; mkswap /var/swapfile; chmod 0 /var/swapfile; then put "/var/swapfile" on /etc/fstab
[20:20] <Gnea> !fstab | freshone0
[20:21] <freshone0> prasad@DIMAC-X:~$ 'sudo fdisk -l'
[20:21] <freshone0> sudo fdisk -l: command not found
[20:21] <freshone0> prasad@DIMAC-X:~$ 'sudo fdisk -l
[20:21] <freshone0> >
[20:21] <freshone0> >
[20:21] <FloodBot1> freshone0: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:22] <Tynach> Does anybody know how to list the devices that have grub on the MBR?
[20:22] <Dr_Willis> err.. bash basics.. you dont put quotes around commands.. normally
[20:22] <Tynach> Or how to check a device to see if grub is on its MBR?
[20:23] <Dr_Willis> the quotes were to show you the whole command...
[20:23] <Tynach> Dr_Willis, unless you're using those backquotes, and you want the output of one command to be part of your command.
[20:23] <Tynach> But that's nitpicking.
[20:23] <freshone0> how to delete all files but retain th ububtu version keeping the same partitions i have as of now
[20:23] <Dr_Willis> Its clearer to use $(command)  then `command` ;)
[20:23] <freshone0> how
[20:24] <Tynach> Huh, I didn't know about $(command). I'll have to try that out.
[20:24] <Dr_Willis> freshone0:  just find the files and delete them...
[20:24] <Dr_Willis> Tynach:  its a little differnt then ` `  but i cant recall the details
[20:24] <brightspark> freshone0, it might actually be easier to wipe the disk completely and reinstall if you want nothing more than the OS present
[20:24] <Dr_Willis> freshone0:  delete all of what files exactly? the users home dirs?
[20:24] <Gnea> freshone0: backup your data
[20:25] <Gnea> !backup | freshone0
[20:25] <freshone0> in a harddisk drive
[20:25] <freshone0> the back up?
[20:25] <freshone0> external hdd the back up?
[20:25] <Gnea> freshone0: see the URLs that ubottu references
[20:26] <shawn186> Howdy
[20:26] <freshone0> ok
[20:26] <shawn186> is ubuntu 10.04 LTS still available?
[20:26] <auronandace> shawn186: indeed
[20:26] <Gnea> shawn186: should be
[20:26] <shawn186> oh good
[20:26] <mssssm> Do I have to start my kernel with the profile option for ureadahead to properly profile?
[20:26] <shawn186> i am having a bit of touble looking for the desktop versoin
[20:26] <shawn186> *version
[20:27] <OerHeks> shawn186, you can go directly to 10.04.4 > http://releases.ubuntu.com/lucid/
[20:27] <auronandace> shawn186: any reason you need 10.04 and can't use 12.04?
[20:28] <shawn186> yes
[20:28] <Outro> hi, does anyone programing with java?
[20:28] <freshone0> ok another thing the smart data says that the airflow temp is 65 c  and is failing whta to do to correct it
[20:28] <Tynach> Outro, yes I program in Java, but this is not the appropriate channel.
[20:28] <shawn186> 12.04 i just tried on my old pentium 4 computer is very slow, barely usable
[20:28] <Gnea> shawn186: do you want CD or DVD?
[20:28] <guntbert> Outro: this channel is for ubuntu support, not for programming
[20:28] <auronandace> !lubuntu | shawn186
[20:28] <shawn186> whereareas i like an older interface
[20:28] <shawn186> oh nice
[20:29] <shawn186> i am also using lili for booting off of usb
[20:29] <Outro> Tynach, can i private you?
[20:29] <Gnea> shawn186: http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/
[20:29] <freshone0> i cannot unmount 499 patiotion as iam not the root
[20:29] <Tynach> Outro, of course.
[20:29] <freshone0> what is root
[20:29] <shawn186> but, instead of making a usb installer, is it possible to install it onto a 2 GB flash drive?
[20:29] <Gnea> freshone0: root is /
[20:29] <Conradzz> Yes, got my wireless up!
[20:29] <Gnea> freshone0: you have to use a livecd
[20:29] <freshone0> what is live cd
[20:29] <Gnea> !usb | shawn186
[20:30] <Gnea> !livecd | freshone0
[20:30] <Conradzz> So, now I'm just going to downgrade everything I upgraded
[20:30] <OerHeks> freshone0, just the ubuntu iso, it has install & live modus
[20:30] <shawn186> persistant?
[20:30] <freshone0> where will i find it i just upgraded to 12.04
[20:31] <Gnea> shawn186: yeah, as if you were installing to a HDD
[20:31] <shawn186> oh thats what i'm looking for :P
[20:31] <Gnea> shawn186: awesome
[20:32] <shawn186> but..i don't have linux on this laptop
[20:32] <freshone0> is there a way to delete all file from the home folder through the terminal
[20:32] <lionofgod> Hello, am running ubuntu 12.04, my headset is working very weird... the right ear works but not the left, but when I change the balance in soundsettings my other ear works
[20:32] <lionofgod> If i change volume then i have to change balance again
[20:32] <freshone0> pls help
[20:32] <lionofgod> How do i fix my sound?
[20:34] <freshone0> is there a way to delete all the files from the home folder
[20:34] <terafl0ps> lionofgod, have you tried equalizing the volume of your channels in alsamixer?
[20:34] <rly> The wonderful Unity system has crashed. How do I restart it? It seems that only the window manager crashed.
[20:34] <Gnea> freshone0: why do you need to do that?
[20:34] <Tynach> rly, Unity works as a compiz plugin. To restart it, run compiz --replace.
[20:34] <auronandace> rly: if just the window manager then: compiz --replace
[20:34] <freshone0> so that i can put new data i have got on an external hard disk
[20:35] <lionofgod> terafl0ps: Howdo i do that?
[20:35] <freshone0> into the home folder
[20:35] <Gnea> freshone0: that makes no sense. why would you need to delete it?
[20:35] <GeekSquid> Tynach: that plugin is activated in compizconfig-settings-manager
[20:35] <rly> auronandace: that gets me an API mismatch with a segfault.
[20:35] <terafl0ps> From a command line, type "alsamixer"
[20:35] <rly> auronandace: so much for 'continuing to use the computer during an upgrade'
[20:35] <Tynach> GeekSquid, I know that, I wasn't asking the question.
[20:35] <jaldhar> Hi.  Anyone using eclipse under 12.04?  (Kubuntu actually but I don't think it makes a difference in this case.)
[20:36] <terafl0ps> You'll get different bars for the volume of all your devices.
[20:36] <jaldhar> Since I upgraded from 11.10 it doesn't find my plugins anymore.
[20:36] <jaldhar> What's up with that?
[20:36] <Gnea> I guess he didn't want to explain.
[20:36] <auronandace> rly: i don't do upgrades, i fresh install, less hassle
[20:36] <Gnea> or maybe I misunderstood
[20:36] <shawn186> aww http://rudd-o.com/new-projects/portablelinux
[20:36] <compdoc> upgrades and updates are so slow today. someone attacking ubuntu's servers?
[20:36] <auronandace> rly: also a whole lot quicker too
[20:37] <rly> auronandace: sure, I can imagine that, but it's not good advertisement for Ubuntu.
[20:37] <shawn186> why is it down?
[20:37] <jaldhar> compdoc: I noticed that too.
[20:37] <OerHeks> compdoc, changing mirror can help
[20:37] <rly> auronandace: 'reinstalling a system' is a concept from the '90s.
[20:38] <Dr_Willis> i find windows also works best with reinstalls...
[20:38] <lionofgod> terafl0p: played aroundw ith abrs while some sound was playing... didnt work
[20:38] <ubukou> Quick Question .. any ideas where can i chat about android? like Roms and Hacks?
[20:38] <shawn186> Dr_Willis I do too :D
[20:38] <terafl0ps> lionofgod, each bar should be flat at the top, but pressing "E" or "W" on the keyboard increases your left and right volume respectively.
[20:38] <Dr_Willis> compdoc:  servers been slow for liek 3 days.
[20:39] <jaldhar> uboku: #cyanogenmod is one place.
[20:39] <jaldhar> ubukou:  #cyanogenmod is one place.
[20:39] <aquishix> Has anyone ever encountered issues with 2TB drives?
[20:39] <ubukou> jaldhar, thanks that makes sense
[20:39] <Tynach> Asking on #grub has gotten me no responses. Anyone know how to check to see if a drive has Grub in it's MBR, or check and see what drives have grub in their MBRs?
[20:39] <Dr_Willis> aquishix:  thats a bit.. vague.
[20:40] <aquishix> showing errors that look like hardware errors but really aren't
[20:40] <Conradzz> so freaking stupid, I literally have to downgrade every file I updated in the past 3 days
[20:40] <lionofgod> terafl0pL is their a way to reset all sound settings, i already tried eleting .pulse folder
[20:40] <aquishix> during installation, for instance
[20:40] <ubukou> jaldhar, #cyanogenmod :Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services
[20:40] <Dr_Willis> Tynach:  you could use dd/cat to look at the firt 512bytes I think.
[20:40] <escott> Tynach, the boot info script
[20:40] <aquishix> when I flip to a console with alt-fX and run fdisk /dev/sda, it gives me a warning that the logical sector size, block size or similar quantity was smaller or larger than the other one
[20:40] <aquishix> but the system was working correctly for a while
[20:41] <auronandace> !register | ubukou
[20:41] <Dr_Willis> aquishix:  you can partion drives in.. unusual ways..  if its a warning.. then it shouldent be fatal
[20:41] <terafl0ps> I'm not sure of a way to reset all of the sound settings.
[20:41] <Tynach> escott, where do I find it, and how do I use it? Dr_Willis, how do I do that on a LiveCD?
[20:41] <escott> Tynach, you can download it form sourceforge
[20:41] <aquishix> Dr_Willis: Well, I'm guessing it's a hardware or BIOS issue, because now installation hangs utterly when trying to examine the disks
[20:42] <shawn186> here we go, this looks usefull http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/14912/create-a-persistent-bootable-ubuntu-usb-flash-drive/
[20:42] <ubukou> auronandace, thanks a lot.. weird i never had to do that till now..
[20:42] <aquishix> I guess I was asking about DMA modes or something
[20:42] <Dr_Willis> aquishix:  if theres no imporntant data on it.. id delte the paritons if you can. and let the installer remake them
[20:42] <aquishix> that's external to hardware AND OS, maybe?
[20:42] <aquishix> I'm trying to ignore the reality that I probably have a bad drive on my hands =(
[20:42] <auronandace> ubukou: depends which channels you visit
[20:42] <Dr_Willis> aquishix:  i have several bad drives i need to return.
[20:42] <Dr_Willis> night all
[20:42] <aquishix> Dr_Willis: Right.  I recovered what I could from it and tried to do that, but now it's just hanging on install, period
[20:43] <lionofgod> terafl0ps: I was able to do balance it with q and e, left is at 50 and right is at 10
[20:43] <ubukou> auronandace, cool .. /nick ubukou seems to not work .. i ll join #freenode and ask (?)
[20:43] <lionofgod> terafl0ps: how do i fix the ratio so its equal?
[20:43] <auronandace> ubukou: yeah, #freenode is the place to ask
[20:44] <remlabm> i am having an issue with Ubuntu and Eclipse. For some reason, when i search for updates, ex: marketplace, php, nothing shows up in the box below. Also when creating a new project i dont have any of the default perspectives. I have uninstalled+purged all eclipse settings but yet cannot get it to work. any ideas?
[20:44] <terafl0ps> I normally just max out the volume with the up arrow key and then bring it back down.
[20:45] <alankila> remlabm: maybe you installed the ubuntu repo eclipse. afaik they break the update functionality and marketplace to make it not update itself or something such
[20:45] <terafl0ps> That should equalize the channels.
[20:45] <alankila> I suggest just getting the eclipse as a .tar.gz and then launching it from its directory
[20:45] <remlabm> alankila: is there another repo i can grab it from? the eclipse PPA says it hasnt been updated since 2009
[20:45] <alankila> remlabm: eclipse.com :-p
[20:45] <remlabm> ha, ok
[20:45] <remlabm> didnt think of that
[20:46] <alankila> or was it eclipse.org. Anyway
[20:46] <lionofgod> terafl0ps: No I mean, when my left ehadphone is at 50 and my right is at 10, then the sound is equal, why?
[20:46] <ubukou> auronandace, i got what i needed over there, thanks again for the time
[20:46] <auronandace> ubukou: no worries :)
[20:46] <alankila> eclipse is very neat software in that the directory is perfectly self-contained, there's no installation to think about. I just leave it on desktop and fire it up from there
[20:47] <terafl0ps> Ah, I'm not sure why that is happening.  I was hoping it was unequal in alsamixer when you first opened it up and equalizing it there would fix it.
[20:48] <lionofgod> terafl0ps: is their a better place I can ask #pulseaudio wont respond to my question
[20:48] <terafl0ps> Is the sound unequal in every application?
[20:48] <lionofgod> Yes
[20:49] <jaldhar> alankila: I'll consider that but the neat freak in me likes to have everything in .debs as far as possible.  And it used to work, its just the upgrade that seems to have borked it.
[20:49] <Tynach> XD I fixed my problem, almost. I was installing grub to the wrong hard drive, and of course it wasn't booting from the one I DID install grub to. So I fixed that, but I didn't have /boot mounted properly, so grub now only shows Windows XD
[20:49] <Tynach> So, at least now I have a working computer.
[20:50] <terafl0ps> I'm  (obviously) not the only person around here.  Stick around in the channel.  Someone else may have some other ideas.
[20:50] <lionofgod> terafl0ps: yes all applicatios have unbalanced sound
[20:51] <ubukou> auronandace, social standards are so many times missing from some channels.. its good to be nice to people helps make linux communities better.
[20:51] <terafl0ps> There are definitely some issues with sound in this release.  I had to use alsamixer to get audio working in my headphones this morning because plugging in headphones was cutting off all audio completely.
[20:51] <ubukou> auronandace, hope you understand what im talking about, my english are not so good.
[20:51] <lionofgod> terafl0ps: Do you know of any other place where I can ask for help?
[20:52] <auronandace> ubukou: your english is better than many native speakers
[20:52] <alankila> jaldhar: I personally view debs as evil, mostly because I'd like things to just come in separate directories with no package manager required, or at most very simple packaging manager required...
[20:53] <terafl0ps> I would have though pulseaudio would have been a good place to ask too.  I sometimes helps to post in the forums too if the IRC channel is really quiet.
[20:54] <lionofgod> terafl0ps: Okay, guess I will post in Ubuntu forums
[20:55] <remlabm> alankila: worked, thanks!
[20:56] <alankila> remlabm: yeh, this is one of the places where distros just do a disservice to its package users
[20:56] <alankila> the packaged result is worse than the original which needed no packaging in the first place
[20:57] <alankila> eclipse was held back for _years_ because gcj could not build a non-broken eclipse. This was when java itself had been gpl for years
[20:57] <milaz> terafl0ps: sadly, i have to rule out timers as the reason for stuttering audio/video playback
[20:57] <alankila> not a shining moment for debian. Since then, it's been generally broken/unusable, laying in wait like a trap for the unwary
[20:58] <milaz> i tried three of them, hpet, tsc, acpi_pm, and the bug is still there
[20:58] <atdiehm> is there a preferred way of going from ubuntu to xubuntu? when I upgraded one of the machines, going from fedora 15 to ubuntu 12.04 makes is almost unusably slow, so I wanted to try xubuntu, hoping to speed things up
[20:58] <milaz> maybe there is another thing to try?
[20:58] <shawn186> why is the download server on ubuntu.com so slow?
[20:58] <terafl0ps> milaz, wow.  This is the third issue with sound I've dealt with this afternoon.
[20:59] <milaz> terafl0ps: third one today? wow!
[20:59] <shawn186> it says 1 day left to download 694 MBs
[21:00] <terafl0ps> This morning my headphones were cutting off all audio.  I found a workaround for that with alsamixer.
[21:00] <shawn186> terafl0ps i had that problem on this IDT audio integrated laptop, when i tried installing 10.04 on it
[21:01] <terafl0ps> lionofgod, (still in-channel I think) had unbalanced audio in his headphones, and I found another alsamixer workaround but he had to have his left at 10% and his right at 50% t get equal audio.
[21:01] <stroyan> shawn186: mtr of us.archive.ubuntu.com shows all the IP addresses lead to london right now.  That doesn't seem normal.
[21:01] <terafl0ps> and then there's you're stuttering issue, milaz
[21:01] <lionofgod> tatrafl0ps: Hey, left at 50% and right at 10
[21:01] <Artemis3> atdiehm, the preferred way would be to install from zero, but you could try psychocats guides: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexubuntu
[21:01] <terafl0ps> whoops reversed :P
[21:02] <milaz> terafl0ps: and what was the second one?
[21:02] <milaz> :)
[21:02] <terafl0ps> lionofgod was the second one.
[21:02] <terafl0ps> My own with the headphones was the first one.
[21:02] <milaz> oh, i see
[21:03] <An_Ony_Moose> I want to generate a simple video clip contains the digits mm:ss (showing the time into the video) in the bottom right corner of the video on a transparent background. How would I best do this?
[21:03] <milaz> terafl0ps: maybe mine is also alsa-related?
[21:05] <milaz> terafl0ps: i noticed that sound in video gets clicking obertones before stuttering begins, and then it stutters
[21:06] <milaz> and also these obertones go away if I select another output device for a second, and then select my 'Analog Output' back
[21:06] <kemal> 12.04: from Unity to Gnome, how ??
[21:06] <terafl0ps> milaz, It might be interesting to test with the previous version of pulseaudio assuming that was upgraded in 12.04.
[21:07] <milaz> terafl0ps: I'm willing to test that
[21:07] <milaz> terafl0ps: is there any way to downgrade the package?
[21:07] <auronandace> !gnome3 | kemal
[21:08] <ejcweb> I've installed a couple of programs today (using apt-get) that I want to remove. Some of the packages installed some extra dependencies too. Is there an easy way to do this? (ie. roll back packages by x hours, or something)
[21:08] <milaz> ejcweb: sudo apt-get remove ...
[21:08] <ejcweb> If I do a simple apt-get uninstall packagename it only frees a matter of KB which surprises me since when I installed it it was MBs.
[21:08] <milaz> ejcweb: and then sudo at-get autoremove
[21:08] <terafl0ps> I'm not great at using apt.  I would probably just remove it and install the necessary .debs with dpkg, but I suspect there is a cleaner way.
[21:08] <milaz> ejcweb: and downloaded packages remain in /var/cache/apt
[21:09] <ejcweb> milaz: I think autoremove may do  the job
[21:09] <kemal> Thanks
[21:09] <milaz> terafl0ps: i'll try to figure that out
[21:10] <milaz> terafl0ps: what i'm afraid of is that there's no previous version for pulseaudio for 12.04
[21:11] <unspin> i've been having a really strange problem with 12.04 on a few of my machines
[21:11] <mikubuntu> how do i tell what version of gnome is installed using terminal?
[21:11] <unspin> when i click on a window, it doesn't shift focus to that window
[21:11] <unspin> i can't drag it
[21:11] <unspin> or highlight anything
[21:11] <unspin> has anyone seen this before?
[21:13] <terafl0ps> milaz, I had the same thought.
[21:13] <zykotick9> mikubuntu: (assuming gnome3 default) "apt-cache policy gnome-shell" perhaps
[21:14] <mikubuntu> zykotick9: k, i'll try thanks
[21:14] <unspin> it happens with unity and gnome-classic
[21:14] <atdiehm> Artemis3, I have no trouble doing a fresh install if that's what's best.  is Xubuntu generally the fastest? or maybe Lubuntu?
[21:14] <docmur> Two questions, 1) In my browsers, the middle scroll wheel is inverted and it's annoying as hell, how can I change that, it's normal everywhere else.  Second is there a high resolution verison of time?  Something less then 1 milli
[21:16] <albech> where do i add scripts that i want started at login time?
[21:17] <shawn186> does unetbootin install to a usb flash drive permanently?
[21:18] <terafl0ps> Milaz, since I run ubuntu on my work laptop, I often just wait for a patch assuming that the problem is only just an annoyance.  For something like that, I might be tempted to look up what pulseaudio version you were running before the upgrade, build it from source, and then point your existing  pulseaudio init script to the version you built.
[21:18] <e2b04836> shawn186: no
[21:18] <auronandace> albech: type: startup in unity dash
[21:18] <shawn186> h :/
[21:19] <shawn186> oh
[21:19] <terafl0ps> But that means if they ever fix it, you have to undo all of that to go back to using the version managed by apt.
[21:19] <albech> auronandace, isnt there just some file where i can add it like rc.local?
[21:19] <shawn186> what is unetbootin's purpose?
[21:19] <auronandace> !upstart | albech
[21:19] <milaz> terafl0ps: thanks, that is a way to do that
[21:20] <Jordan_U> shawn186: It allows you to boot Ubuntu's installer, which you can then use to perform a real installation of Ubuntu to any drive (including an external USB drive).
[21:20] <milaz> terafl0ps: but i think i just downgrade to 10.11 for the time being ;)
[21:20] <e2b04836> shawn186: to create bootable usb drives from which you can install linux
[21:20] <albech> auronandace, when was startup added to ubuntu? was it 10.10 or 10.04?
[21:20] <terafl0ps> 10.11?
[21:20] <milaz> terafl0ps: 11.10
[21:20] <terafl0ps> Weren't you running 11.x before?
[21:20] <milaz> lol
[21:20] <terafl0ps> oh, ok
[21:21] <terafl0ps> haha
[21:21] <auronandace> albech: no idea when it was added sorry
[21:21] <shawn186> oh, is installing ubuntu directly to usb from windows not possible?
[21:21] <albech> auronandace, this is on a 10.04 box
[21:22] <auronandace> albech: 10.04 uses upstart
[21:22] <Jordan_U> shawn186: Correct, that is not possible. Is that a problem for you?
[21:22] <albech> auronandace, thanks
[21:22] <terafl0ps> shawn186, unetbootin puts a bootable version of the Ubuntu livecd (or most Linux livecds really) on to your USB stick.
[21:22] <auronandace> albech: no worries :)
[21:23] <terafl0ps> It can do this from Windows.
[21:23] <e2b04836> shawn186: i believe its possible but i have no idea why you'd want to do that
[21:23] <terafl0ps> There is a unetbootin version for both Windows and Linux.
[21:23] <milaz> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[21:23] <e2b04836> terafl0ps: he wants to actually install ubuntu on a usb drive
[21:25] <terafl0ps> e2b04836, doesn't the livecd kind of do this?  If you deploy a livecd to a USB stick and choose the "Try Ubuntu" option it lets you run Ubuntu from the USB stick.
[21:25] <DarwinSurvivor> shawn186: reasons aside, do you have 2 usb drives? you could boot off one, then use it to install onto the other one...
[21:25] <shawn186> e2b04836 you don't eh?
[21:26] <terafl0ps> There is an option in unetbootin to allocate a certain amount of USB disk space for persistent file storage too as I recall.
[21:26] <shawn186> never wanted to boot a supporteds computer from usb, any time or anywhere
[21:26] <shawn186> ?
[21:26] <Jordan_U> terafl0ps: But that's not a full installation, among other things it can't be properly updated.
[21:26] <shawn186> usb is like a super fast harddrive
[21:26] <maheanuu> I don't really know where to ask this question, so I hope that someone here will either answer my question or point me in the rite direction where I can possibly find an answer.  I have converted flac and mp3 files to .wav files but they wont play on the cd player I have and I would like to convert them to CDA files using K3b if at all possible any ideas on this would be appreciated
[21:26] <DarwinSurvivor> shawn186: not unless you have usb3 it isn't!
[21:27] <milaz> shawn186: you mean, super-slow harddrive
[21:27] <e2b04836> shawn186: usb sticks are not as fast as a hardrive and having an operating system on one would decrease its lifespan considerably
[21:27] <DarwinSurvivor> shawn186: running ubuntu off a usb is slow, because usb2.0 (the most common) is absolutely attrocious even compared the slowest HDD on the market
[21:27] <terafl0ps> True, it's not a full install, but you can add repositories if space permits.
[21:27] <terafl0ps> e2b04836 is correct about the speed.
[21:28] <terafl0ps> USB is not necessarily fast at all.
[21:28] <milaz> shawn186: i do run ubuntu from usb when i'm doing some technical work or hunting viruses on friends' computers
[21:28] <Jordan_U> maheanuu: It sounds like the problem is that you're trying to burn files to a data CD, which will only work for mp3 CD players. Normal audio CDs are *not* data CDs containing a certain type of file, they are a completely different format from data CDs.
[21:28] <alankila> DarwinSurvivor: at best, 40 MB/s. It's not *horrible*, I've never seen a flash stick capable of that. Best I have seen is something bit over 20 MB/s off usb stick
[21:28] <milaz> and here are the instructions how to make that kind of usb stick from windows: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[21:28] <shawn186> though usb was faster than a harddrive
[21:28] <alankila> desktop drives are usually only around double fast, and flash could still win because of the seekless media
[21:28] <shawn186> or flash rather
[21:28] <dmorrison42> Does anybody know how I can set permissions to allow writes, but not overwrites or deletions?
[21:29] <DarwinSurvivor> alankila: a lot of that is because of the usb interface. 40MB/s is "absolute highest in ideal laboratory conditions". You'll almost never get that in real world applications.
[21:29] <terafl0ps> It *could* be faster than a hard drive if it were really good flash memory and attached to a USB 3.0 port, but your USB stick probably isn't.
[21:29] <maheanuu> Jordan_U, I am trying to use Audio as my project not data
[21:29] <alankila> DarwinSurvivor: bah, I got an external usb enclosure that reliably delivers that
[21:29] <victoria_> hi i need hel mi acer aspire does not recognizes my webcam
[21:29] <shawn186> someone told me usb 2.0 is faster than the writing on a harddrive
[21:30] <terafl0ps> USB 2.0 maxes out at 57 MB/sec.
[21:30] <terafl0ps> Even parallel ATA can get as fast as 133 MB/sec.
[21:30] <shawn186> Agh, I mean FLASH..FLASH drive
[21:30] <maheanuu> I have burned 2 disks and they both work on my nephews CD player but they will not work on the one my wife has and she is the one that counts
[21:30] <DarwinSurvivor> shawn186: even if it is, you won't notice it. 95% of the speed difference of an Operating System is *read* time.
[21:31] <alankila> terafl0ps: it's still only around double faster and many mechanical drives will not reach those interface speeds you mention. For instance, 80 MB/s at the outer edge and 50 MB/s at inner edge could happen
[21:31] <victoria_> hi i need help mi acer aspire does not recognizes my webcam
[21:31] <milaz> if it is the flash drive i think of, the maximum read speed is around 10 MB/s
[21:31] <terafl0ps> very true alankila, but I was comparing just interface speeds
[21:32] <DarwinSurvivor> shawn186: if you *really* want to do it (beware, it *will* kill your usb drive), the easiest way is to boot off a second usb, then use that one to install onto the other one.
[21:32] <e2b04836> !patience |victoria_
[21:32] <alankila> the point being, usb flash does not *have* to be horrible, even at 2.0. I guess we just haven't worked out how to put good flash controller on one of those yet, it might be question of expense
[21:32] <slyborg> victoria: have you tried downloading a program called cheese from the software centre? worked on my laptop (i'm running 12.04 though)
[21:33] <alankila> a 40 MB/s flash random access would be pretty sweet, all in all.
[21:33] <primeras> hi all. Sorry my English isn't very well. I have a problem. How to install Matlab on Ubuntu/Debian
[21:33] <maheanuu> On my Toshiba laptop my USB ports (and I use a splitter on one run max at 12MBps  But if I have 3 drives connected I drop to <2MBps
[21:33] <ikonia> alankila: any chance we could return to ubuntu discussion in here please.
[21:33] <terafl0ps> My point was that USB 2.0 can't go faster than 57 MB/sec.  Most USB flash drives aren't good enough to go that fast though.
[21:33] <LordOfTime> primeras:  what's your primary language, there might be a channel for your language
[21:33] <Jordan_U> maheanuu: Has any burned CD worked with this player? Many older CD players have problems with burned CDs, presumably because the bits are simply harder to read than with pressed CDs.
[21:33] <primeras> LordOfTime, Turkish
[21:34] <LordOfTime> !turkish | primeras
[21:34] <Jordan_U> maheanuu: Burning at a slower speed might also help if it's just not a very sensitive drive.
[21:34] <milaz> primeras: Ubuntu Software Center, then type: Matlab"
[21:34] <LordOfTime> but what milaz said is nice
[21:34] <ikonia> milaz: matlab is not in the software center
[21:34] <LordOfTime> s/nice/a good start/
[21:35] <milaz> ikonia: then in the menu, select Edit->Software Sources
[21:35] <ikonia> milaz: why ?
[21:35] <primeras> LordOfTime, ubuntu-tr not active..
[21:35] <ikonia> milaz: what's that going to do ?
[21:35] <milaz> ikonia: and check "Cannonical Partners" tick
[21:35] <LordOfTime> primeras:  there's a patience factor for getting support
[21:35] <ikonia> milaz: I don't believe it's in the partners repo
[21:35] <LordOfTime> sometimes you just have to wait a while
[21:36] <DarwinSurvivor> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MATLAB
[21:36] <maheanuu> She has only used commercial disks on this player and at over 50 dollars each  I will wait till hell freezes over before I start building up her disc collection of cda's
[21:36] <DarwinSurvivor> !matlab
[21:36] <DarwinSurvivor> oh, same link :(
[21:37] <victoria_> i write aquestion there but only say install chesse i have it and dont recognize
[21:37] <milaz> ikonia: yes, you have to install it in a way described here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MATLAB
[21:37] <terafl0ps> Shawn186, Applications/Accessories/Disk Utility actually has a benchmark tool you can use to test drive performance if you want to compare the performance of your USB disk to your internal disk.
[21:37] <milaz> then, install the package i mentioned to integrate matlab into ubuntu system
[21:37] <maheanuu> Jordan_U, I will try the reduce speed, I have been recording at 16x so I will slow that down and see if that works
[21:38] <ikonia> milaz: yes, so suggesting enabling the partners repo etc is not going to help
[21:38] <milaz> ikonia: yes, sorry
[21:38] <slyborg> victoria: if running cheese doesn't activate your webcam, try a few of the other webcam programs available from the software centre, that's the only other thing i can think of
[21:38] <milaz> ikonia: that was 'multiverse', not partners
[21:38] <ikonia> milaz: it's not in multiverse
[21:38] <DarwinSurvivor> mango_: also, make sure you make an "audio cd", a *lot* of older cd players will not read a cd with mp3's copied onto it. making an "audio" cd will convert the mp3's to the native audio-cd format
[21:39] <victoria_> i try camorama and others
[21:39] <milaz> ikonia: matlab-support package is in multiverse
[21:39] <ikonia> milaz: that is not matlab
[21:39] <DarwinSurvivor> maheanuu: also, make sure you make an "audio cd", a *lot* of older cd players will not read a cd with mp3's copied onto it. making an "audio" cd will convert the mp3's to the native audio-cd format
[21:39] <DarwinSurvivor> mango_: sorry, wrong id
[21:39] <Conradzz> this is getting so annoying
[21:39] <milaz> ikonia: but that is not full matlab installation, kust a package to have a better integration of it into s ayatem
[21:39] <maheanuu> I have played all my .wav files on everything I use and have not been able to find if the player she has accepts anything but cda files as neither flac, ogg, mp3, or wav files will play on her player
[21:39] <ikonia> milaz: right, so it's pointless, it won't install matalb
[21:40] <DarwinSurvivor> maheanuu: as has been said, do NOT create a data cd full of music files, it probably won't work. you have to create an "audio cd".
[21:40] <slyborg> victoria: try searching for people with the same thing problem on ubuntu forums, i see the problem cropping up quite often
[21:40] <tilted> How to securely wipe a partition (not the whole drive which appears to be the only option with DBAN)?
[21:40] <victoria_> i try camorama and others
[21:40] <terafl0ps> victoria_, do you know what model webcam it is?
[21:40] <Jordan_U> maheanuu: You keep saying "cda files". Audio CDs do not contain files, they contain tracks. I want to be sure that you understand that. Do you?
[21:41] <milaz> ikonia: yes, to install matlab you must have an installatio media from mathworks
[21:41] <maheanuu> DarwinSurvivor,  I am burning them as .wav but no joy on her stuff and everyone else can read it
[21:41] <Conradzz> I swear...I'm about done with linux, this shit is getting old quick, I just removed/downgraded the majority of the updates I've done in the past 3 days
[21:41] <victoria_> suyin corp cristal eye
[21:41] <ikonia> Conradzz: drop the lagnauge
[21:41] <ikonia> Conradzz: if you're done with linux, that's fine, type /part and use what ever OS you want
[21:41] <victoria_> is the acer aspire one integrated
[21:41] <DarwinSurvivor> maheanuu: for the *3rd* time, STOP burning files onto the cd's, it probably *won't work*. You have to create an AUDIO CD (k3b will let you do this easily if you are having problems)
[21:41] <Conradzz> dude your like a language nazi
[21:41] <ikonia> Conradzz: don't need to hear you swearing about it and complaining
[21:41] <Conradzz> I hit enter and you reply
[21:42] <RupertPupkin> Conradzz, You're not doing anyone a favor by using Linux.  By all means, stop using it.  Nobody cares.
[21:42] <maheanuu> Then how do I convert a FILE to a TRACK????
[21:42] <DarwinSurvivor> maheanuu: what burning program are you using?
[21:43] <Conradzz> Rupert your an idiot, I bet you think voting is useless too right?  I mean its only one person after all right?
[21:43] <Jordan_U> maheanuu: The burning software does that. You don't do it yourself.
[21:43] <ikonia> maheanuu: when you use burning software, you have the option to make audio CD's
[21:43] <ikonia> Conradzz: stop - no more language/name calling, stop it now
[21:43] <maheanuu> DarwinSurvivor,  I am using K3b
[21:43] <Conradzz> Ikonia how fast do you type like what 200 gwpm?
[21:44] <e2b04836> Conradzz: do you actually have a question or are you just here to troll?
[21:44] <DarwinSurvivor> maheanuu: ok, on the welcome screen there should be 6 buttons at the bottom (2 x 3). chose the one labeled "New Audio CD Project"
[21:44] <maheanuu> Yes and I have been making them for years and not a problem like I said her player does not accept anything but Commercial Disks PERIOD
[21:44] <RupertPupkin> Conradzz, I do think voting is necessary.  But I don't think that standing on top of a roof and yelling illogically is going to solve any problems.  Why don't you do something constructive instead, like filing a bug if you found one, or designing something that others can use?
[21:44] <Conradzz> e2b04836 I have come here with problems, and the majority of people here can't help
[21:44] <Jordan_U> tilted: *WARNING* This command destroys data, make sure what you pass for of= is a partition you want to delete irrecoverably! "sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdXY". If you want to do a more "secure" whipe you can probably use "sudo wipe /dev/sdaXY".
[21:44] <ikonia> Conradzz: I assure you people can
[21:45] <Conradzz> in the past 3 days I've been here 2 people have helped me l3tops and one other
[21:45] <ikonia> Conradzz: doesn't mean others can't help
[21:46] <DarwinSurvivor> maheanuu: so you did burn them as an "Audio CD Project"?
[21:46] <RupertPupkin> A little politeness and patience goes a long way.  If you come here with an arrogant, entitlement attitude, then you'll probably be disappointed :P
[21:46] <tilted> Jordan_U, thanks.  I was using the /dev/zero version already, but wasn't sure how bulletproof it is for preventing unerase.  I will look into wipe.
[21:46] <rly> Conradzz: there are those that can help and won't and there are those that try to help and can't and there are a few that help.
[21:46] <rly> Conradzz: and there are also a few that say that it was your fault (instead of Ubuntu's).
[21:46] <ikonia> rly: your attitude doesn't help - stop
[21:46] <Conradzz> don't get me wrong rly I appreciate the people that help, but those are few and far in between, the majority are like ikonia who just come here to be "moderators"
[21:46] <ikonia> rly: you've had enough warnings in the past - stop nopw
[21:46] <DarwinSurvivor> tilted: unless someone takes an electron microscope to your disassembled HDD, they are NOT going to recover anything from a zero overrite.
[21:46] <ikonia> Conradzz: really, so you think I don't help, no problem then
[21:47] <rly> ikonia: I am just describing reality. What's wrong about that?
[21:47] <ikonia> Conradzz: I was just typing askgin you for info on your problem
[21:47] <ikonia> rly: it's not reality, people get solid help in here every day, you complain constantly, enough
[21:47] <Conradzz> I resent the statement that it doesn't matter if I use linux or not, especially when there are people whose job is to get more people to use linux
[21:47] <tilted> DarwinSurvivor, then I should be safe :)   thx
[21:47] <ikonia> Conradzz: there is no-one in here who's job it is to get more people to use linux
[21:47] <rly> ikonia: all my complaints are well-founded.
[21:47] <e2b04836> Conradzz: i'm not surprised no one has helped you since you havent even described your problem yet
[21:47] <ikonia> rly: in your head, sure, so enough
[21:47] <RupertPupkin> Nobody's job in here to ensure you use Linux.  You're very mistaken.
[21:48] <maheanuu> Yes, I DID burn them as an audio project and still try, I do not use cda myself and havent bought any commercial discs for years other than at garage sales and flea markets
[21:48] <Conradzz> am I suppose to spam the chat with my prob ever few seconds?  I have came in and asked
[21:48] <ikonia> Conradzz: if you want help, just ask explaining your problem, and if someone can help, I'm sure they will
[21:48] <rly> ikonia: er, no. I complained that Unity crashed for example, while it said I could use my computer during the upgrade.
[21:48] <ikonia> Conradzz: no no, not every few seconds,
[21:48] <ikonia> Conradzz: just ask, wait - 10 - 15 minutes (if no-one responds) try again
[21:48] <rly> ikonia: that's a valid complaint, unless you take the 'you didn't pay anything, so you cannot complain'-angle.
[21:48] <DarwinSurvivor> maheanuu: then there's a good chance her player does not support cd-r disks, I've seen them myself and it is a bummer. might be easier to get her a new cd player (they can be got for about $10 these days)
[21:48] <ikonia> rly: no-one said anything about that
[21:49] <Conradzz> ikonia how long have you used linux?
[21:49] <maheanuu> I only want .cda for my wife as everyone else is cutting edge and she is still in the stoneage
[21:49] <rly> ikonia: and the other observation is also true: not everyone is capable of reading and or helping.
[21:49] <ikonia> Conradzz: that doesn't matter
[21:49] <Conradzz> sure it does, I would like to know if you don't mind
[21:49] <rly> ikonia: I am just explaining that to Conradzz to lower his expectations.
[21:49] <ikonia> rly: final warning - stop
[21:50] <isson_> l
[21:50] <ikonia> Conradzz: I'm not interested in detailing my CV to you, if you need help, ask the channel
[21:50] <maheanuu> You, don't live where I do, the cheapest I can fine is about 120 dollars here
[21:50] <Nk26> Hi is using apt-cache the only way to search and get a version number off a repo? I just want to check what version of an app the repo has
[21:50] <Conradzz> see, your that closed minded that you can't answer a question, what I was getting at, is some of you have used linux so long its like second nature to you
[21:50] <DarwinSurvivor> maheanuu: ouch
[21:50] <action09> hi
[21:50] <Conradzz> so I feel more than a few of you are insensitive when it comes to new people who have been using it a few days
[21:50] <ikonia> Conradzz: it's not closed minded, there is a channel of 1600 people , ask the question, someone will be able to help hopefully
[21:51] <e2b04836> Conradzz: you havent actually asked a question yet
[21:51] <RupertPupkin> I really have to agree with ikonia here.  People should just ask their questions directly instead of complaining.
[21:51] <maheanuu> I live in French Polynesia, gasoline is over 9 dollars a gallon, electricity is over 50 cents a kw
[21:51] <rly> Conradzz: if you want help, you can better ask at a mailing list. People tend to be more informed there. Just google mailing list ubuntu and you should be fine. Be sure to ask a question that does actually have an answer.
[21:52] <terafl0ps> victoria, what is the exact error that cheese gives you when it doesn't recognize the camera?
[21:52] <maheanuu> DarwinSurvivor, I live in French Polynesia, gasoline is over 9 dollars a gallon, electricity is over 50 cents a kw
[21:52] <action09> anybody has installed Ubuntu on a hybrid SSD+mechanical  drive  like momentus or Hitachi Travelstar Z5K500  ? i wipe the partitions and now can't get it working.. i mean there is a 16GB ssd partition originally, do i need to recreate it ?
[21:52] <Conradzz> rly thanks I have come here and asked questions, and not many people know, literally I have had to google for hours on half the problems
[21:52] <Polah> Nk26: You can use apt-cache show <package> to get the version of a specific package
[21:52] <ikonia> Conradzz: final chance - ask a question or be quiet
[21:52] <ikonia> Conradzz: if someone can and will help, they need to see the question
[21:52] <prateekp> what is a kernel
[21:52] <ikonia> prateekp: its the root of the OS, the thing that makes it work
[21:53] <Conradzz> ok ikonia, I can't get into ubuntu its a hard freeze when the os loads to the login screen
[21:53] <prateekp> 86 kernels means
[21:53] <prateekp> ?
[21:53] <ikonia> Conradzz: ok, you've asked the channel, if someone knows the answer/how to help and wants to they will respond
[21:53] <ikonia> prateekp: I have no idea what you are referencing, sorry
[21:53] <Jordan_U> maheanuu: Unfortunately I think we've given all of the softeare related help we can for this problem. With a different burner or different CDRs you *might* get a result which she can play with her hardware, but it seems that you're doing everything correctly (and there's no reason to believe that k3b isn't doing everything correctly also).
[21:53] <zee> Thats the amount of kernels you have
[21:53] <e2b04836> prateekp: x86?
[21:53] <ikonia> prateekp: can you give some context please ?
[21:53] <RupertPupkin> prateekp, you mean 686 or x86?  x86 means 32 bit, and x86_64 means a 64 bit.
[21:54] <zee> prateekp: thats the amount of kernels
[21:54] <milaz> Conradzz: do you see a login screen, or it freezes before?
[21:54] <prateekp> what does one mean by the amount of kernels
[21:54] <Conradzz> sometimes before and sometimes I see the login screen milaz
[21:54] <prateekp> zee:?
[21:54] <ikonia> prateekp: can you give context of what you mean please.
[21:54] <Nk26> thanks polah I wasnt sure if there was another way to do it but that way works fine
[21:54] <zee> prateekp: thats how many kernels you have installed
[21:54] <ikonia> he has 86 kernels installed ?
[21:54] <r0b-> i am trying to install Ubuntu 12.04 Server off a USB stick is there a way to load rt2561s.bin directly from the USB boot drive?
[21:54] <zee> Yes
[21:54] <ikonia> zee: I don't think so
[21:54] <maheanuu> Jordan_U, Thanks for all the help to all who tried to help me, I guess that there is no software to convert to cda then?
[21:55] <ikonia> prateekp: zee is mistaken on this, can you give some context to the info you want
[21:55] <zee> ikonia: Why not?
[21:55]  * r0b- needs this ASAP :-(
[21:55] <milaz> Conradzz: when you press the Num Lock key, does it switch the light indicator?
[21:55] <zee> I believe I am not mistaken
[21:55] <ikonia> zee: may I PM you please.
[21:55] <zee> Sure
[21:55]  * action09 brb
[21:55] <milaz> Conradzz: I mean, in the 'freeze' situation?
[21:55] <prateekp> zee is right till now ... but i want to know why is it the number '86'
[21:55] <Conradzz> nope, its a hard freeze milaz
[21:56] <milaz> Conradzz: did you try CTRL+ALT+PrinScreen+K ?
[21:56] <DarwinSurvivor> prateekp: please tell us where you saw "86". was it on your computer, a website, etc?
[21:56] <prateekp> uname -a
[21:56] <ikonia> prateekp: ok, it's x86
[21:56] <ikonia> prateekp: that means it's a 32bit kernel
[21:56] <ikonia> prateekp: it's not "86 kernels installed"
[21:56] <prateekp> oh what does kernel mean
[21:57] <Conradzz> no I haven't milaz I'll try that now, what is it suppose to do?
[21:57] <milaz> Conradzz:  it can kill the X server
[21:57] <ikonia> prateekp: it's basiaclly the OS
[21:57] <Jordan_U> maheanuu: "conversion to CDA" doesn't make sense. CDA is a raw dump of the bits contained in a track. It's slightly analogous to asking how to convert an mp3 file to a vinal record, or how to save a file as type "ext4" on a fat32 filesystem.
[21:57] <prateekp> ok so the name of os is 86 kernels
[21:57] <milaz> Conradzz: try it several times, and tell me please if there's any reaction
[21:57] <ikonia> prateekp: no, x86 means it's a 32bit kernel
[21:58] <PhorceP> Using 12.04 and getting these errors with DVD images when using any app that utilizes libdvdread: http://paste.ubuntu.com/996527/ (although the same apps work fine with physical DVDs).  All the Google results reference issues with older Ubuntu versions (mostly involving not having libdecss installed, which I do)
[21:58] <prateekp> 32 bit os u mean
[21:58] <prateekp> in which language is ubuntu written
[21:58] <ikonia> prateekp: correct
[21:58] <ikonia> prateekp: many
[21:58] <zee> Yes hello
[21:58] <Jordan_U> maheanuu: Stop trying to think of it as a problem of conversion. K3B is doing the right thing, and you won't be able to manually do any better. This is purely a hardware problem.
[21:58] <cp133> yeyes
[21:59] <prateekp> ikonia and zee are u the contributers to ubuntu
[21:59] <Conradzz> doesn't work milaz, this time though it didn't freeze on booting the login screen, it actually let me log in, showed my desktop, and then froze
[21:59] <milaz> Conradzz: also, another way: hold CTRL+Alt+PrintScreen and type slowly: R E I S U U B. This sequence must lead to reboot
[21:59] <ikonia> prateekp: no, neither of us are
[21:59] <Loshki> prateekp: It sounds like it's time for you to read the manual;
[21:59] <Polah> Nk26, you could use | grep Version on the end to cut down the output more if you want to
[21:59] <Loshki> !manual | prateekp
[21:59] <prateekp> yes i will read .. its too big to read
[22:00] <Conradzz> didn't do anything again milaz
[22:00] <evilgeenius> Half way through the installation of Ubuntu 12.04 the screen went black for a couple of seconds and then showed the login screen for the Ubuntu Live CD.   I couldn't login as I didn't know the root password.  I've restarted the machine and it seems to be ok.  THere is no GIMP installed though, should it be?
[22:00] <milaz> Conradzz: so, completely frozen
[22:00] <Conradzz> yup milaz completely frozen
[22:00] <milaz> Conradzz: then let's work in recovery mode
[22:01] <prateekp> zee:  so what do u do at the irc
[22:01] <prateekp> ikonia:  so what do u do at the irc
[22:01] <ikonia> prateekp: nothing
[22:01] <Conradzz> k milaz, I'm in recovery mode now
[22:01] <L3top> Conradzz: I would either try and get in recovery mode or boot live and look through your drives /var/log/dmesg log to see if it revealed any clues.
[22:01] <prateekp> nothing ?
[22:01] <milaz> Conradzz: give me please a listing of /etc/modprobe.d
[22:01] <milaz> Conradzz: use a pastebin
[22:02] <milaz> Conradzz: or floodbot will come after you :)
[22:03] <milaz> Conradzz: oh, to make less work, just tell me what files starting with nv are there
[22:03] <prateekp> ikonia: you are channel operator
[22:04] <prateekp> ?
[22:04] <prateekp> how so?
[22:04] <ikonia> correct.
[22:04] <prateekp> ikonia : u kicked out zee means
[22:04] <prateekp> ?
[22:04] <ikonia> it means he was removed from the channel
[22:04] <Conradzz> there are no files starting with nv
[22:05] <prateekp> ikonia: why so
[22:05] <ikonia> prateekp: you don't need to worry about it
[22:05] <prateekp> ikonia: can i PM u
[22:05] <ikonia> sure
[22:06] <milaz> Conradzz: nothing like 'nvidia-...'?
[22:06] <Conradzz> nope milaz, basically its a bunch of blacklist conf files
[22:07] <milaz> what does lspci | grep VGA say?
[22:07] <evilgeenius> Can anyone tell me if GIMP is installed by default on 12.04?
[22:08] <milaz> evilgeenius: no, but you can easily install it from Software Center
[22:08] <Conradzz> 00:01:0 VGA compatible controler: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Wrestler [Radeon HD 6290]
[22:08] <cp133> lolol6290
[22:08] <root_> Yes hello
[22:08] <evilgeenius> milaz: ok thanks.  The ubuntu installer freaked out while installing Ubuntu 12.04,  but I did a restart and things seem ok.  Im not sure if anything is missing though.
[22:10] <milaz> Conradzz: were you able to work in X before?
[22:10] <milaz> Conradzz: how that situation began?
[22:10] <Conradzz> yup, the computer was fine for about 3 days, it asked me to install some updates so I did, restarted and now it freezes milaz
[22:10] <buttscicles> ?
[22:11] <IdleOne> buttscicles: change your nick to something that is family friendly please
[22:11] <buttscicles> wut.
[22:11] <eoss> erm, as far as the internet goes, it doesnt get any more clean than buttcicles
[22:12] <milaz> Conradzz: ok, let's see if you have /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[22:12] <stars69> i just installed ssh-server-client and changed default port..I can login sftp but I cant connect thru ssh anyone can help plz
[22:12] <Conradzz> No such file milaz
[22:12] <milaz> cp133: absolutely lol. Stupid me was probling for nvidia-related problems :)
[22:13] <PhorceP> stars69: what command are you using to ssh?
[22:13] <stars69> iam using ssh secure shell
[22:14] <stars69> it said the server responed "connection closed"
[22:14] <milaz> Conradzz: when Ubuntu starts, do you see text console, or graphical screen with rounded things running inder Ubuntu logo?
[22:14] <stars69> i did used the restart cmd for ssh as well
[22:14] <Conradzz> ubuntu logo milaz
[22:14] <terafl0ps> If you changed the default port, then you need to use ssh -p with your new port number.
[22:15] <PhorceP> stars69: so are you using PuTTY or ssh command line client or...?
[22:15] <milaz> Conradzz: what does 'lsmod | grep radeon' do?
[22:16] <stars69> PhorceP, i use ssh secure shell
[22:16] <PhorceP> stars69: what terafl0ps said
[22:17] <stars69> yea it give me an error
[22:17] <Conradzz> shows me a list of things milaz, with radeon highlighted in red
[22:17] <milaz> Conradzz: several lines?
[22:17]  * action09 back   weird here's my post : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11950285  
[22:17] <Conradzz> 5 lines, first line with radeon on the left and the next four with it on the right
[22:18] <terafl0ps> stars69: What is the error?  If it's long you'll have to pastebin it.
[22:18] <tilted> Seems like the update repos have been godawful slow today.  Is it just me?
[22:18] <milaz> Conradzz: ok
[22:18] <evilgeenius> So in Ubuntu 12 there is no way to Alt-Tab to a specific window of an Application, e.g. Firefox, if you have more than one window open?  What's up with that?
[22:18] <milaz> Conradzz: run also 'lsb_release -r', please
[22:19] <trism> evilgeenius: alt+`
[22:19] <Conradzz> 12.04
[22:19] <trism> evilgeenius: or just pause for a second when alt+tabbing
[22:19] <evilgeenius> trism: Both of those are not working.  The windows are on different desktops
[22:20] <trism> evilgeenius: oh then ctrl+alt+tab
[22:20] <evilgeenius> trism: yes that works but its a bit silly.
[22:20] <trism> evilgeenius: you can change in back in ccsm
[22:21] <Eidel_> Does anyone know how to "dock" windows to the edges of the screen? Win7 has this neat feature, and I really want it :)
[22:21] <terafl0ps> As long as we're on the subject of gnome windows, I'd love to know how to disable window transitions in gnome3 fallback mode.  They are far too sluggish.
[22:21] <trism> evilgeenius: Unity/Switcher/Bias alt+tab to prefer windows on the current viewport
[22:21] <baddhabit> anyone good at helping with display issues?
[22:22] <evilgeenius> trism: This is one of the many interface glitches that made me leave unity in the first place and go to Linux Mint, I guess I was hoping they'd fixed the issues in 12.
[22:23] <milaz> Conradzz: try 'sudo apt-get install fglrx'
[22:23] <evilgeenius> trism: I must say that most of the issues have been fixed, there are still a few though.
[22:23] <Conradzz> my only problem with doing that milaz is that is most likely what caused me a freeze last week
[22:24] <ftabr> hello everyone!
[22:24] <milaz> Conradzz: binary driver can cause a freeze, but for now, open-source driver causes you a freeze too
[22:25] <ftabr> someone here works on Canonical too?
[22:25] <ikonia> few people do
[22:25] <terafl0ps> milaz, have you looked in Conradzz's /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[22:25] <kayaman> hi alll
[22:25] <ftabr> hi
[22:25] <milaz> terafl0ps: that would be great idea
[22:26] <kayaman> ubuntu 10.10is a robust one
[22:26] <milaz> Conradzz: can you somehow post /var/log/Xorg.0.log file from the rozen computer to a pastebin?
[22:26] <terafl0ps> There should be Xorg.failsafe.log from when he was in failsafe mode too.
[22:26] <mun> hi
[22:26] <milaz> Conradzz: e.g. by booting from LiveCD, or Live USB
[22:27] <TheVoid> mmm, i'm sticking with my 10.04 <3
[22:27] <Conradzz> I'll try it here in a sec milaz, installing fglrx now
[22:27] <prateekp> ikonia:
[22:27] <milaz> Conradzz: ok
[22:27] <mun> i've done something very silly. i ran apt-get install libxss1:i386 libqtcore4:i386 libqt4-dbus:i386 and it has removed a lot of packages, including kile, okular etc. i want to stay in 64bits. now i can't install kile again. i get messages like "Depends: konsole but it is not going to be installed"
[22:27] <mun> please help
[22:27] <milaz> Conradzz: let's hope that helps so that there will be no need in checking that file
[22:28] <slackin> mun, lol, ur need help, mentally.
[22:28] <Conradzz> you see milaz, I had this problem last week when I first installed ubuntu, but I had installed the proprietary drivers, and within a day it started freezing on me
[22:28] <slackin> mun, windows users shouldn't bother using linux, as you obviously cant be bothered to read anything to learn something.
[22:28] <Conradzz> this time though its lasted me about 3-4 days, and I didn't install the proprietary drivers
[22:28] <evilgeenius> Someone needs to tell the Ubuntu UI developers that the application menu should always appear at the top and not just when you hover your mouse over it!  It's silly the way it currently works,  it should work like OSX and always be visible.
[22:29] <mun> slackin, i don't see your point. you're obviously not helpful
[22:29] <milaz> Conradzz: I had a lot of problems with Radeon on Ubuntu
[22:29] <mun> slacker_nl, i'm not a windows user. i just needed to get skype working earlier.
[22:29] <slackin> mun, I'm not trying to be helpful. Help starts with one's self. Read.
[22:29] <milaz> Conradzz: as the soultion, I switched to NVidia
[22:29] <bibi23> Hi, how can I know if my ubuntu uses Upstart or Sysv?
[22:29] <Conradzz> thats the thing milaz, I tried ubuntu a few months back on a system with nvidia, and all it gave me was problems
[22:29] <slackin> mun, did you read about how to PROPERLY do multilib? obviously not.
[22:29] <mun> slacker_nl, i'm glad you realised.
[22:30] <milaz> Conradzz: for NVidia, the best experience for now is with proprietary driver
[22:30] <milaz> Conradzz: did you use it?
[22:31] <Conradzz> its still installing the proprietary driver
[22:31] <echo083> nautilus show non empty folders as empty :(
[22:32] <conbot> phaider peoplez
[22:33] <slackin> Conradzz, whats your issue?
[22:33] <Conradzz> hard freeze on boot slackin
[22:34] <slackin> Conradzz, well, i SERIOUSLY doubt thats due to an nvidia video card, or the propiatary drivers, unless its a laptop.
[22:34] <baddhabit> anyone have a moment to help with my X server display issue?
[22:34] <Conradzz> it is a laptop slackin
[22:34] <milaz> slackin: the videocard turned out to be radeon
[22:34] <Conradzz> ok milaz, just tried booting again, and froze
[22:34] <slackin> Conradzz, is it one of those nvidia/intel mixed cards?
[22:34] <Conradzz> nope, one of those AMD Apu chips
[22:34] <slackin> Conradzz, thats ati, not nvidia
[22:35] <Conradzz> I know, I never said it was slackin
[22:35] <IdleOne> prateekp: install VLC and enjoy the .flv
[22:35] <terafl0ps> baddhabit, I can try.  Best to just fire your question out into the channel rather than asking to ask.
[22:35] <milaz> Conradzz: let's return to recovery mode
 thats the thing milaz, I tried ubuntu a few months back on a system with nvidia, and all it gave me was problems <--- you didnt say that?
[22:35] <slackin> o nvm
[22:35] <slackin> i read it wrong
[22:36] <Conradzz> ya I've tried ubuntu a few times on different systems
[22:36] <baddhabit> the x server is only displaying on 1 screen.  I have a 2nd and my mouse can go to it...
[22:36] <Conradzz> k I'm back in recovery milaz
[22:36] <milaz> Conradzz: try 'lsmod | grep fglrx'
[22:36] <milaz> Conradzz: and 'lsmod | grep radeon'
[22:37] <milaz> Conradzz: what does each command show?
[22:37] <Conradzz> fglrx            3263886    0
[22:37] <terafl0ps> baddhabit, what kind of video card is this?
[22:37] <prateekp> ikonia:
[22:37] <Conradzz> and grep radeon shows nothing
[22:37] <milaz> Conradzz: ok
[22:38] <IdleOne> prateekp: install VLC and enjoy the .flv
[22:38] <milaz> Conradzz: btw, can you set video memory size in BIOS settings?
[22:38] <Conradzz> I don't believe you can milaz, I'll check though
[22:40] <tony123456> hi all, nvidia problems here... it only shows 1024x768 and 800x600, i tried installing the latest (it got worse), and removing them all: same...
[22:40] <Conradzz> no you can't milaz, its locked at 256mb
[22:40] <milaz> Conradzz: ok
[22:40] <milaz> Conradzz: now, let's boot from live cd/usb to obtain that /var/log/Xorg.0.log file
[22:42] <milaz> Conradzz: of course, when you boot from live medium, the file is not located at /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[22:42] <tony123456>  anyone heard of that problem before?
[22:42] <milaz> Conradzz: it is located on one of HDD partitions
[22:43] <baddhabit>  its a Geforce GT 520 2gb  pcie x16
[22:43] <terafl0ps> baddhabit:  Is the second monitor blank?
[22:43] <slackin> baddhabit, install nvidia-drivers with nvidia-settings(aka, GTK use flag on nvidia-drivers) and use the nvidia-settings tool
[22:43] <evilgeenius> Is there a way to make the menu always be visible without having to hover over it first?
[22:44] <slackin> baddhabit, if you do that, you should be golden
[22:44] <baddhabit> its is powered on to a white screen, My mouse is able to go to it, but its like it is not part of x server...
[22:44] <slackin> baddhabit, if your mouse can go to it, it *IS* part of your x server
[22:44] <slackin> baddhabit, are you using nouvou SHIT or nvidia-drivers?
[22:44] <baddhabit> I should have put qoutes around "like"
[22:44] <ikonia> slackin: drop the language please.
[22:44] <Jordan_U> !language | slackin
[22:45] <slackin> ikonia, sorry, I just can't stand the FOSS nvidia driver, its pure junk in its current state
[22:45] <terafl0ps> Yeah, if you can move the mouse over to the second monitor, you've already figured out the hard part. :)
[22:45] <baddhabit> its a new card, but it was working and i was trying to configure things and it stopped working
[22:45] <baddhabit> :(
[22:45] <ikonia> slackin: doesn't warrent bad language.
[22:45] <baddhabit> I am so bad at explaining... LOL
[22:46] <baddhabit> lsmod shows this  nvidia              12319264  49
[22:47] <Conradzz> oddly enough milaz, it won't let me boot from my install disk
[22:47] <milaz> Conradzz: the screen freezes too?
[22:47] <Conradzz> its refusing to boot from it now, and just pushes me to grub
[22:47] <mun> i ran apt-get install libxss1:i386 libqtcore4:i386 libqt4-dbus:i386 to get multiarch and it has removed a lot of packages, including kile, okular etc. i want to stay in 64bits. now i can't install kile again. i get messages like "Depends: konsole but it is not going to be installed". please help.
[22:48] <baddhabit> so monitor 2 the "problem" one, has a X cursor while on it. where as minitro 1 is an arrow
[22:48] <milaz> Conradzz: strange enough
[22:48] <tony123456> hello?
[22:48] <milaz> Conradzz: maybe, powering the computer off completely and turning it back on will help?
[22:48] <Conradzz> I've done it quite a bit milaz
[22:48] <Yoshimi-pink> I'm trying to use skype but i have missing dependencies
[22:48] <milaz> Conradzz: it is a laptop?
[22:48] <Conradzz> yup
[22:49] <terafl0ps> baddhabit:  This almost sounds like you are running a separate X screen.  Are you sure you can move your mouse pointer from one display to the other and back?
[22:49]  * milaz struggling not to mention pulling laptop battery out
[22:49] <Yoshimi-pink> it says libqtgui.s0.4 no such file or directory
[22:50] <milaz> Conradzz: are you sure you were able to boot from this medium?
[22:50] <Conradzz> yup milaz, its how I installed ubuntu a few days ago
[22:50] <milaz> Conradzz: funny enough, I had the very same issue with radeon
[22:51] <milaz> Conradzz: and do you know how did i fix it?
[22:51] <milaz> Conradzz: I had a dual-boot computer with Windows
[22:51] <Conradzz> probably should have mentioned that I have dual boot milaz :P
[22:51] <milaz> Conradzz: after I booted windows, I was able to reboot to Ubuntu
[22:51] <milaz> Conradzz: ... and to use it for several days more
[22:52] <Conradzz> I have windows 7 set up dual boot on this laptop
[22:52] <baddhabit> Yes  and I just tried to reset everything to "defaults" and reloaded  but to no avail.... for a breif second it shows the background and then goes all white.
[22:52] <milaz> Conradzz: ... until my Radeon card was completely burnt off, and I cpuldn't use it enev to see BIOS messages
[22:53] <milaz> Conradzz: so, after booting Windows, are you able to use live medium
[22:53] <terafl0ps> Stars69, I don't see where you actually made a ssh connection in your terminal from that pastebin.
[22:53] <Conradzz> any idea if theres a progam that will let me view the linux filesystem in windows instead of trying to use the thumbdrive?
[22:54] <terafl0ps> Stars69, it also looks like your sshd_config is still using the default port of 22.
[22:54] <milaz> Conradzz: there are a few, but I didn't have good experience with any of them
[22:55] <Belial`> anyone else noticing extremely slow speeds off the repos?
[22:55] <terafl0ps> Stars, can you do an "ssh username@192.168.1.9 " in your terminal?
[22:56] <lund> Belial`, not me, but have seen several others mention
[22:56] <Yoshimi-pink> how can i install libqtgui.so.4?
[22:56] <baddhabit> still having tough time
[22:58] <terafl0ps> baddhabit: What happens if you drag a window on to that second display?
[22:58] <milaz> Conradzz: the most interesting part then is not Xorg logs, if you will be able to use thumb drive, or even hard drive ubuntu installation, after just booting windows
[22:59] <Conradzz> I'm going to recreate my live usb
[22:59] <milaz> ok
[23:01] <baddhabit> I cannot drag the window over. it is as if the windo ends on monitor 0.   but i cannot start or do anything on monitor 1 other than move my mouse there
[23:01] <L3top> baddhabit: can you "yank" it?
[23:02] <baddhabit> even switching workspaces is  or sending windows.. it limited to screen 0
[23:02] <terafl0ps> L3top, yank?
[23:02] <L3top> baddhabit: check "sticky corners" or some such WM setting in unity.
[23:02] <baddhabit> my finger are to fat to reach in and grab it lol
[23:02] <L3top> unless you drag it very fast, it may get stuck in the desktop originating
[23:03] <baddhabit> and I dont have the "bent coat hanger v2.2.1.318" necessary to catch it on the hanger and pull it
[23:03] <baddhabit> lol
[23:03] <L3top> if so, it is a WM setting
[23:03] <L3top> lol
[23:03] <baddhabit> it deosn't even have my back ground
[23:03] <L3top> Sorry, I should have backread
[23:03] <terafl0ps> I think he may have a separate X screen.
[23:04] <terafl0ps> as opposed to TwinView
[23:04] <L3top> Just had a similar problem with someone recently, and it was due to a setting in unity... yes terafl0ps I agree
[23:04] <terafl0ps> baddhabit, can you open your nvidia control panel?
[23:05] <milaz> baddhabit: did you look at System Settings -> Displays?
[23:05] <baddhabit> i have tried twin view and separate...
[23:05] <L3top> and when you can baddhabit, grep -i 'twinview' /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[23:05] <terafl0ps> Twinview should do it.
[23:06] <L3top> nm... listen to terafl0ps.
[23:06] <L3top> Change to twinview, and confirm that you can't "yank" it
[23:07] <Conradzz> there milaz, restarting now and seeing if it will let me boot from it
[23:07] <terafl0ps> In your nvidia control panel, you should have an option 2 or 3 items down on the left that reads "X Server Display Configuration"
[23:07] <baddhabit> peter@pfj-Ubuntu-amd:~$ grep -i 'twinview' /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[23:07] <baddhabit> grep: /etc/x11/xorg.conf: No such file or directory
[23:07] <Conradzz> there it let me now
[23:07] <DrMax> I upgraded to 12.04 and now it doesn't seems to understand mod4/ win keys anymore. How do I configure the shortcuts so that the win key is back to mod4 ?
[23:08] <L3top> Yes baddhabit listen to terafl0ps. I am living in the past.
[23:08] <L3top> I do EVERYTHING through xorg.conf
[23:09] <L3top> I don't know if you are supposed to have one or not at this point for dual monitors
[23:09] <terafl0ps> It's okay L3top, I used to do the same before Ubuntu.  I've been pretty lucky with nvidia hardware ever since.
[23:09] <Conradzz> what file was I looking for milaz?
[23:09] <milaz> Conradzz: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[23:10] <Conradzz> it is empty...
[23:10] <milaz> Conradzz: but actually you are looking for a file like that, on HDD parition
[23:10] <terafl0ps> Baddhabit, In the display tab, you should be able to see both displays.
[23:10] <baddhabit> I am looking to leverage your luckyness teraflops
[23:10] <terafl0ps> You should see a dropdown that says "configuration."
[23:10] <baddhabit> yes?
[23:10] <Conradzz> ya, I'm looking in on my installed partition and found the file milaz
[23:10] <terafl0ps> Choose "twinview" in that.
[23:10] <Conradzz> but I do have 2 I have Xorg.0.log.old and xorg.0.log
[23:11] <Conradzz> the .log file is 0 KB, the old file is like 40kb
[23:11] <milaz> Conradzz: pastebin the mall, please
[23:11] <milaz> *them all
[23:11] <terafl0ps> Physically arrange the two boxes on the screen for your monitors to match your desktop layout.
[23:11] <baddhabit> okay. brb
[23:11] <hash_> anyone here know much about antix
[23:12] <terafl0ps> Is there a pastebin equivalent for screenshots that doesn't make me create an account?
[23:12] <Conradzz> here you go http://pastebin.com/NBNZ02Py
[23:13] <stars69> what is the cmd to remove a dir guys?
[23:13] <baddhabit> DOH! now its worse :(
[23:13] <stars69> sudo rm seems doesnt work
[23:13] <baddhabit> now the screen is in sleep
[23:13] <L3top> terafl0ps: tinypic.com
[23:14] <terafl0ps> Stars, rm -rf dirname should do it.  Use with care it deletes all directories and files beneath it.
[23:14] <Furesho> hello, everyone!
[23:14] <terafl0ps> where dirname is the directory you want to delete
[23:14] <terafl0ps> baddhabit, can you get back to the nvidia control panel?
[23:15] <Furesho> um, how do i check what window manager i'm currently using?
[23:15] <L3top> stars69: only use the -f switch if you are positive there is nothing system important in there.
[23:15] <L3top> s/switch/arg/
[23:16] <baddhabit> sure can
[23:16] <terafl0ps> Baddhabit, You may have to enable the display.  I do this every morning with my extra monitor when I am using my laptop with it.
[23:16] <baddhabit> lol
[23:16] <baddhabit> brb
[23:16] <Loshki> stars69: I find I have fewer accidents when I remove all the files in the directory first, and then use rmdir (which only deletes *empty* directories)...
[23:17] <terafl0ps> Loshki, good point.  I do this sometimes when I'm on a production system.
[23:17] <madsailor> hello all.  How do I clear the recent history from the unity dash?
[23:18] <milaz> Conradzz: either i am too sleepy now, or the log looks just fine
[23:18] <milaz> Conradzz: can you reboot into installed version of Ubuntu?
[23:19] <Yoshimi-pink> i need to install libqtgui.so.4 anyone know how to do this?
[23:19] <Conradzz> I'll give it a try
[23:19] <Yoshimi-pink> im on xubuntu 11.10
[23:20] <bastidrazor> Yoshimi-pink: that file does not exist in 11.10 *buntu
[23:20] <Kyle__> quit
[23:20]  * Kyle__ sighs
[23:21] <baddhabit> doh!
[23:21] <Conradzz> oddly enough milaz I can sort of
[23:21] <Yoshimi-pink> how can i get skype to work
[23:21] <baddhabit> now its working kindof..
[23:21] <Conradzz> now I'm getting sort of a soft freeze though
[23:21] <Conradzz> as I can see my desktop background, and move my mouse, but see nothing else
[23:21] <baddhabit> i have 2 separate server screens... but my desktop background is literally in the center
[23:22] <milaz> Conradzz: at this point, i can propose you two solutions
[23:22] <terafl0ps> Can you move windows between the two monitors?
[23:22] <milaz> Conradzz: they are nothing exciting though
[23:23] <baddhabit> yes but now it gets stuck.. and i have to swing it over really hard...
[23:23] <baddhabit> didn't have to before
[23:23] <Conradzz> figured
[23:23] <terafl0ps> This sounds like the Unity "yank" behavior L3top described.
[23:23] <milaz> Conradzz: the first one is blacklisting radeon and fglrx drivers and using vesa mode (yikes)
[23:24] <shallwe> hi guys, ubuntu has full support for Intel® HD Graphics 3000?
[23:24] <shallwe> its come with i5, i3 intel
[23:24] <milaz> Conradzz: the second one is reinstalling Ubuntu, and then pinning the radeon driver packages, so they are not influenced with updates
[23:24] <stars69> L3top and Loshki thanks alot
[23:24] <terafl0ps> Your background is probably in the middle because it's not wide enough to cover your new (very large) desktop.
[23:24] <Conradzz> not sure I wanna reinstall again, this will make it the third time in about a week
[23:25] <Conradzz> thing is its not really frozen now though, I can right click
[23:25] <Conradzz> and it gives me the option to create new folder, create new document etc.
[23:25] <milaz> Conradzz: oh, then, try choosing Ubuntu 2D environment from the greeter
[23:26] <milaz> Conradzz: before you log in and enter a password, try clocking a cog near your user
[23:26] <milaz> Conradzz: then, choose a 2D version
[23:26] <terafl0ps> Baddhabit, I personally don't like Unity at all and I can't really help troubleshoot it because I immediately disabled it in favor of gnome3 fallback mode, but it does sound like you have your dual displays configured correctly now.
[23:26] <L3top> shallwe: I have gotten the sandybridge stuff working, but I have had some failure as well...
[23:26] <milaz> Conradzz: that may help in showing you a complete desktop
[23:27] <shallwe> L3top, well ty, i will test it more before buy a new laptop :) ty
[23:27] <Conradzz> I dont' actually see a cog
[23:28] <milaz> When you log out and see a list of users
[23:28] <Conradzz> ya that little ubuntu symbol?
[23:29] <milaz> On the right of your user name, on the login screen
[23:29] <CookieM> or gnome's foot symbol
[23:29] <Conradzz> ya, when I click it it gives me no option other than Back
[23:29] <milaz> Like here: http://iloveubuntu.net/pictures_me/ugreeter%20pass.png
[23:29] <L3top> shallwe: mind you, the failure I had was fairly immediate, and the tester was not willing to do much work to try and get it going.
[23:29] <Conradzz> ya milaz, mines actually the ubuntu symbol there, but ya it gives me no options
[23:30] <milaz> Conradzz: like these: http://iloveubuntu.net/pictures_me/session_choices_ubuntu%2012.04%20final.png
[23:30] <milaz> Conradzz: but no options is way too strange
[23:30] <Conradzz> yup, I don't have any of those milaz
[23:30] <L3top> shallwe: most others had success ootb
[23:31] <milaz> try to switch to terminal
[23:31] <Conradzz> You know what it is, I'm not seeing unity
[23:31] <milaz> Conradzz: like CTRL+Alt+F1
[23:32] <Nk26> Hello, I built a app from source and I want to remove it. I thought I got rid of it all but when I type in the app name it still runs. How can I remove it all?
[23:32] <milaz> Conradzz: and then give a command 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop'
[23:32] <Nk26> when i type in appname into the terminal it runs still but I cant locate anything about it on my system
[23:33] <terafl0ps> Nk26, my guess is that the "make install" step copied the program into one of the directories in your $PATH.
[23:33] <Nk26> ahh thanks ill check that
[23:34] <milaz> Conradzz: and then 'sudo service lightdm restart'
[23:34] <Conradzz> telling me my login is wrong
[23:34] <milaz> first, you need to type your username
[23:34] <milaz> then, your password
[23:34] <milaz> and then these two commands
[23:34] <Nk26> terafl0ps would it just be under bashrc? running 11.10
[23:35] <milaz> Conradzz: and, after the first command, you must to type your password again
[23:35] <alusion> What does ubuntu think about this spectrum analyzer ? http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/usb-gadgets/9558/
[23:35] <terafl0ps> "echo $PATH" will tell you what directories are in your path.
[23:36] <Nk26> I found it thanks tera
[23:36] <Topcat> hello, having trouble finding help with this virtualbox issue it seems new. I can't use the seamless mode for the ununtu 12.04 guest OS and vbox 4.1.14 in win7. guest additions installed. Anyone have suggestions?
[23:37] <L3top> !poll | alusion
[23:37] <terafl0ps> Nk26, Sometimes the project's Makefile will have a target like "distclean" or "uninstall" that you can use to remove the program too.  If not, you have to look at what files are copied in make install and remove them yourself.
[23:38] <terafl0ps> Topcat, what happens when you switch to seamless mode?
[23:39] <nick_> hi all
[23:39] <crash1hd> what is the easiest way to allow access to / on a live cd using samba without asking for a username / password
[23:39] <Topcat> terafl0ps: it goes into fullscreen like mode but I suspect it's half enabled or something as the mouse cursor is still the win type not ubuntus
[23:40] <terafl0ps> Topcat, as luck would have it I run Ubuntu 12.04 with that same VirtualBox version and I have a Win7 professional VM.
[23:40] <Furesho> ......how long should i wait before asking a question a second time?
[23:40] <Guest78874> Does anyone know how to change the buttons in the global menu from the  X - {} to an icon instaed?
[23:41] <Topcat> terafl0ps: I think you're doing the reverse to me by the sounds of it.  win7 is my main Host OS
[23:41] <action09> n8 ubuntu people :)
[23:41] <mun> i'm on 64bit oneric and when i run 'sudo apt-get install libpng12-0:i386' i get an error saying 'Breaks: libpng12-0:i386 (!= 1.2.46-3ubuntu1.3) but 1.2.46-3ubuntu1 is to be installed' can the 64bit and 32bit of libpng12 not coexist?
[23:42] <gm4486> i need some help with reverse ssh and citrix ice... anybody good ?
[23:42] <milaz> Conradzz: are you ok?
[23:42] <Conradzz> ya, just have no internet
[23:42] <terafl0ps> Topcat, You're right.  I am doing the reverse of you.
[23:43] <Topcat> terafl0ps: so close ;)
[23:43] <milaz> Conradzz: did these two commands work?
[23:43] <Conradzz> no, because I have no internet, so I can't download them
[23:43] <terafl0ps> Seamless mode still won't change the mouse cursor though.
[23:43] <milaz> Conradzz: i see
[23:43] <milaz> Conradzz: it's 3:40 AM here, so i'll take a nap
[23:44] <Conradzz> k, thanks for your help milaz
[23:44] <terafl0ps> At least not until you move the cursor over a seamless window that is running a windows application that changes the cursor.
[23:44] <milaz> Conradzz: you are welcome, i wish you a good luck
[23:44] <milaz> thank you everybody and have a nice time
[23:44] <Topcat> terafl0ps: it's as if the background is not being disabled
[23:45] <Topcat> does unity havea  3d and 2d mode ?
[23:45] <chip8874> Not sure if im inturrupting anything, but may I ask a question?
[23:45] <terafl0ps> You mean your gnome background?
[23:45] <ellis> go ahead
[23:45] <IdleOne> chip8874: go ahead, someone will answer if they can
[23:46] <Furesho> can anyone see what I'm typing right now?
[23:46] <IdleOne> Furesho: we see you
[23:46] <Topcat> terafl0ps: yes. In seamless I should be able to see that only the program windows.
[23:46] <Topcat> shouldnt*
[23:47] <chip8874> so I have a fresh rig constructed. Im booting from a USB, but when I select either run from USB or install from USB, the screen flashes orange and white stripes and the signal to the monitor is lost. Either option does the same thing
[23:47] <ellis> chip8874: what graphics adapter are you using?
[23:48] <chip8874> xfx radeon hd 6790. I couldn't find a list of supported hardware
[23:48] <Topcat> in vbox should ubuntu list the GFX driver as Unknown?
[23:48] <terafl0ps> Topcat, I have a Linux VM I could try seamless on, but it's not Ubuntu...
[23:48] <chip8874> i dont think i have mobo graphics
[23:48] <terafl0ps> It might be a virtualbox bug.
[23:48] <Conradzz> anyone know how I run the network setup from terminal?
[23:48] <Topcat> terafl0ps: if you could just give it a quick go that should help
[23:49] <ellis> chip8874: have you tried booting a live disk?
[23:49] <chip8874> no I haven't. Would that be the same as a USB boot?
[23:50] <ellis> chip8874: it should be identical. If it boots fine of a CD then it's a problem with your USB
[23:50] <Topcat> terafl0ps: 4.1.14 must be very new out I will roll the vbox additions back to 4.1.12 that's i nthe repo
[23:51] <terafl0ps> I tried it with Centos 5.8 on top of Ubuntu in seamless mode and it hid the CentOS guest's background for me.
[23:51] <chip8874> ok. We have used two different USB sticks and tried both 64 bit and 32 bit distro of Ubuntu 12. Same visual error both times. I am about to try Fedora distro. I will also try a CD. thanks for you help
[23:52] <terafl0ps> However, I wouldn't want to use this because I quickly ran into an issue where I couldn't click on Ubuntu windows while it was running.
[23:52] <ellis> chip8874: yes try fedora. It sounds like the may be compatability issues with your graphics hardware
[23:52] <terafl0ps> All of my mouse clicks were going to the VM until I pulled it out of seamless mode.
[23:54] <Conradzz> I really wish they would trash xorg
[23:54] <Topcat> terafl0ps: ok thanks for trying, my centos 6.2 doesn't let me seamless mode currently, maybe I'm missing a driver its quite fresh.
[23:55] <terafl0ps> No problem Topcat.
[23:55] <chip8874> ok ellis, Fedroa just flash some failure that I didn't quite catch then gave the same visual error. This must mean its a graphics thing right? Also, how do you respond to me like you are?
[23:55] <indian> any one please tell how to configure desktop notifications
[23:56] <ellis> chip8874: Just type the name followed by a colon. That makes it obvious who the post is aimed at. As far as the screen problem, does your monitor say that it has lost signal, or does the screen just go blank?
[23:57] <Conradzz> got it fixed...
[23:57] <L3top> ellis: chip8874  begin typing the name and hit tab.
[23:57] <Conradzz> not sure how but its working
[23:58] <ellis> L3top, never knew that thanks! Not really 'in the know' when it comes to IRC haha
[23:58] <L3top> makes names like bananenkampf-de much less of a headache
[23:59] <chip8874> ellis: I ran it again and it said "failed to initiate MSI-X" (keep in mind that this is fedora). After the orange and white junk, my monitor behaves as if it cannot detect a signal. It says each input in the upper right, then the power light goes yellow, so it seems like it lost signal