| FloatingGoat | holstein: SHURE KSM32 | 01:28 |
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| FloatingGoat | what do you think of that | 01:28 |
| FloatingGoat | might buy it | 01:31 |
| FloatingGoat | holstein: | 01:33 |
| FloatingGoat | horry shet | 01:39 |
| FloatingGoat | that production grade | 01:39 |
| FloatingGoat | anyone? | 02:08 |
| Eee-M0Nkie | Hey I have a quick question about Ubuntu Studio | 03:47 |
| Eee-M0Nkie | maybe someone here can help me out | 03:47 |
| Eee-M0Nkie | 1st How does it run on a laptop? | 03:48 |
| Eee-M0Nkie | Is it better for a desktop? | 03:48 |
| Eee-M0Nkie | hello? | 03:49 |
| len-dt | Eee-M0Nkie, it runs on a lap top or a netbook | 03:53 |
| Eee-M0Nkie | Ok cool | 03:54 |
| Eee-M0Nkie | was worried about power | 03:54 |
| len-dt | better or worse depends on the desktop and the laptop. | 03:54 |
| len-dt | I have found that memory is more important than cpu speed or power. | 03:55 |
| Eee-M0Nkie | The Lap top im using is Quad core and 4 gigs ram | 03:55 |
| len-dt | My netbook has 1 Gig of ram and an atom that runs at 1.6ghz. | 03:56 |
| len-dt | I can still record glitchless sound. | 03:56 |
| len-dt | How many tracks or how many softsynths is another question. | 03:56 |
| Eee-M0Nkie | wow | 03:57 |
| Eee-M0Nkie | cool so I shoul dbe okay then | 03:57 |
| Eee-M0Nkie | should* | 03:57 |
| len-dt | I have had ardour recording two tracks while hydrogen was supplying drums and playing 4 softsynths with up to 4 note at a time. | 03:57 |
| len-dt | You may need an external sound card. | 03:58 |
| Eee-M0Nkie | I have one | 03:58 |
| Eee-M0Nkie | : ) | 03:58 |
| len-dt | Sounds like you are set. | 03:58 |
| Eee-M0Nkie | was just going to ask if that would help | 03:58 |
| len-dt | Internal sound cards sound ok on the output, but the input circiutry is not so hot. | 03:59 |
| Eee-M0Nkie | Thanks for the info | 04:00 |
| len-dt | No problem | 04:00 |
| Eee-M0Nkie | I am going to go cut the iso and get started | 04:00 |
| len-dt | Easiest to use a USB stick | 04:00 |
| len-dt | Of coarse I have no dvd drive, so that may colour my thoughts | 04:01 |
| Eee-M0Nkie | I dont have free usb atm | 04:03 |
| Eee-M0Nkie | lol | 04:03 |
| Eee-M0Nkie | they all have important tools and various apps | 04:03 |
| Eee-M0Nkie | for portable use | 04:03 |
| Eee-M0Nkie | thanks again! | 04:05 |
| FloatingGoat | holstein: you there? | 04:48 |
| astraljava | plotino: Your only option would be to see whether there's a newer version in -backports. | 08:26 |
| astraljava | *oops* Disregard that, poor play with keyboard while thinking the network was down. | 08:40 |
| Eee-M0Nkie | I am having a blank screen issue after install of UbuntuStudio 12.04 | 11:23 |
| Eee-M0Nkie | need help... | 11:23 |
| holstein | FloatingGoat: hello? | 15:19 |
| FloatingGoat | hey | 15:19 |
| FloatingGoat | should i get the SHURE KSM32 | 15:20 |
| holstein | if you need/like it | 15:20 |
| FloatingGoat | ut you said et a really good mic | 15:21 |
| FloatingGoat | is taht one really goot | 15:21 |
| holstein | i would stay away from anything in the pg series from shure | 15:21 |
| FloatingGoat | good* | 15:21 |
| holstein | i think the ksm27 is more bang for the buck | 15:21 |
| holstein | thats a great mic though if you find a good deal on it | 15:21 |
| holstein | http://recordinghacks.com/microphones/Shure/KSM27 | 15:22 |
| holstein | http://recordinghacks.com/microphones/Shure/KSM32 | 15:22 |
| holstein | in that price range, i might go with another brand... but the shure gear is quite nice | 15:23 |
| FloatingGoat | i'll get it use for like 300 bucks | 15:33 |
| holstein | used | 15:34 |
| holstein | i would trus a used shure mic, as long as its what its supposed to be | 15:34 |
| holstein | trust* | 15:34 |
| holstein | though, the 27 new is still cheaper | 15:34 |
| holstein | now.. you find a used ksm27 for $100.. thats a deal :) | 15:35 |
| FloatingGoat | what do you like that mic? | 15:35 |
| holstein | i think both will be quite nice FloatingGoat | 15:36 |
| holstein | the value of the ksm27 is arguably more | 15:36 |
| FloatingGoat | better than the mxl? | 15:36 |
| holstein | FloatingGoat: mxl is a paperweight | 15:36 |
| FloatingGoat | you think its production grade? | 15:36 |
| holstein | you cant even compare the 2 | 15:36 |
| FloatingGoat | the 27 | 15:36 |
| FloatingGoat | ? | 15:36 |
| holstein | unless you want to go into the higher end mxl's | 15:36 |
| holstein | and i wouldnt | 15:37 |
| FloatingGoat | yeah | 15:37 |
| FloatingGoat | idk man i think the mxl sounds good | 15:37 |
| holstein | in that price range, you can get so much better mics, such as the ones wer are talking about | 15:37 |
| FloatingGoat | but im willing to go higher | 15:37 |
| holstein | we* | 15:37 |
| FloatingGoat | but ill buy used since used retains the products value | 15:37 |
| holstein | in theory | 15:37 |
| FloatingGoat | ii can just sell it for what i bought it when i need my money back | 15:37 |
| holstein | assuming it is what it is, and its working | 15:37 |
| FloatingGoat | yeah lol | 15:37 |
| holstein | im dealing with a used mic repair right now | 15:38 |
| holstein | its taking forever.. over a year | 15:38 |
| FloatingGoat | :'( | 15:38 |
| holstein | eh.. i got time to wait... but still | 15:38 |
| holstein | if you like the mxl, get it | 15:38 |
| FloatingGoat | naw | 15:38 |
| holstein | i have had one.. one of the higher end ones | 15:38 |
| holstein | sounded OK | 15:38 |
| FloatingGoat | i need something that will make my vocals sound like bejeebus | 15:38 |
| holstein | gold in gold out... | 15:39 |
| holstein | i wouldnt expect the equipment to "make you a star" so to speak | 15:39 |
| FloatingGoat | used 27's go for around 150 | 15:39 |
| holstein | thats OK i suppose | 15:39 |
| holstein | not much more for a new one | 15:39 |
| FloatingGoat | no i have some really great tracks that im going to run through production grade synths | 15:40 |
| holstein | i dont know what that means | 15:40 |
| FloatingGoat | alls left to do is finish writing the songs and record | 15:40 |
| holstein | im not sure how you can run a track through a synth | 15:40 |
| holstein | synths are just synthgs | 15:40 |
| holstein | synths* | 15:40 |
| FloatingGoat | no i mean | 15:40 |
| FloatingGoat | I made them in LMMS | 15:40 |
| holstein | theres not really a "production grade" synth | 15:40 |
| holstein | its all just MIDI, and/or samples | 15:41 |
| FloatingGoat | yeah there is lol | 15:41 |
| holstein | its up to you to keep them clean | 15:41 |
| holstein | FloatingGoat: nah | 15:41 |
| FloatingGoat | like the sh*t deamau5 uses n stuff | 15:41 |
| holstein | FloatingGoat: not really | 15:41 |
| FloatingGoat | yeah | 15:41 |
| FloatingGoat | thats high quality sh*t | 15:41 |
| holstein | nah | 15:41 |
| holstein | its all just samples | 15:41 |
| FloatingGoat | sounded good on flac | 15:41 |
| holstein | flac, wav.. whatever | 15:41 |
| FloatingGoat | yeah thats what i mean | 15:41 |
| FloatingGoat | need better samples | 15:41 |
| holstein | its just a samples | 15:41 |
| holstein | better is arguable | 15:41 |
| FloatingGoat | and im going to plug them into the piano roll | 15:42 |
| holstein | and a matter of opinion | 15:42 |
| FloatingGoat | idk my music now is missing something man | 15:42 |
| FloatingGoat | needs better quality samples | 15:42 |
| holstein | i dont care what you run them through, its just a sample | 15:42 |
| holstein | and the end result is likely CD.. or worse.. mp3 | 15:42 |
| holstein | so, no one will notice, or care about any of this ;) | 15:42 |
| holstein | nothing wrong with keeping tracks clean though | 15:42 |
| holstein | i dont do a lot with samples or sampling though | 15:43 |
| holstein | i do mostly recording of acoustic instruments | 15:43 |
| FloatingGoat | yeah its really had for me to get real recordings | 15:43 |
| holstein | well, looking at your environment, and some key pieces of gear can be an easy way to clean up your signal | 15:44 |
| holstein | assuming you need/want to make your own samples | 15:44 |
| holstein | otherwise, get out your wallet, buy some samples, and enjoy :) | 15:44 |
| FloatingGoat | whats 129 sound for the 27? | 15:46 |
| holstein | depends | 15:46 |
| holstein | if its clean and new-ish, thats a good deal | 15:46 |
| holstein | its a great mic | 15:46 |
| holstein | for that $$ | 15:46 |
| FloatingGoat | i might have to take a look at it | 15:47 |
| FloatingGoat | a pawn shop posted an ad for one on craigslist | 15:47 |
| holstein | cool | 15:48 |
| holstein | you could probably make a cash offer then | 15:48 |
| holstein | i would go in with $100, and walk slowly out the door if they refuse it | 15:48 |
| FloatingGoat | lol | 15:51 |
| FloatingGoat | come back in with 130? | 15:51 |
| FloatingGoat | maybe i can get them down to like 110 | 15:52 |
| FloatingGoat | its a small shop so possible | 15:52 |
| FloatingGoat | http://images.craigslist.org/5L25If5M63E63Fa3Nec5187aedca413591dcd.jpg | 15:54 |
| FloatingGoat | that look in good condition | 15:55 |
| FloatingGoat | ? | 15:55 |
| holstein | doesnt matter what the case looks like | 16:01 |
| holstein | those are sturdy mics though | 16:01 |
| holstein | thats a good value at 130 | 16:02 |
| FloatingGoat | is that real? | 16:04 |
| FloatingGoat | yeah it seems a good value | 16:04 |
| FloatingGoat | seeing as they go for 300 new | 16:04 |
| FloatingGoat | >.> | 16:04 |
| FloatingGoat | and you said to emulate the studio | 16:04 |
| FloatingGoat | so use mic right? :P | 16:04 |
| FloatingGoat | used* | 16:05 |
| holstein | FloatingGoat: they are $180 new | 16:05 |
| FloatingGoat | MY LIFE IS A LIE | 16:05 |
| holstein | the ksm27 is not the ksm32 | 16:05 |
| FloatingGoat | 32's are 500 new! | 16:05 |
| holstein | FloatingGoat: the only way to emulate the studio is to do just that | 16:06 |
| FloatingGoat | just do what? | 16:06 |
| holstein | get nice mics and preamps and rooms and other equipment | 16:06 |
| holstein | this is a decent mic | 16:06 |
| holstein | studios use it | 16:06 |
| holstein | will you sound good with it? | 16:06 |
| FloatingGoat | yeah son! | 16:06 |
| holstein | i have no idea | 16:06 |
| FloatingGoat | you want to hear what i already have on my sh*t mic? | 16:06 |
| holstein | if you got crap preamps, then that'll be the bottleneck | 16:06 |
| holstein | FloatingGoat: sure | 16:06 |
| FloatingGoat | okay sec | 16:07 |
| FloatingGoat | well i was tinking of gettin a cheap behriner | 16:07 |
| holstein | yup | 16:08 |
| holstein | and those are just that | 16:08 |
| holstein | cheap | 16:08 |
| FloatingGoat | lol bro | 16:08 |
| FloatingGoat | im not spending 200 bucks on a mixer | 16:08 |
| holstein | *no* studio uses *any* behringer preamps | 16:08 |
| FloatingGoat | ill do that on my computer | 16:08 |
| holstein | FloatingGoat: nope.. but you could spend $200 on a nice preamp | 16:08 |
| FloatingGoat | no bro | 16:08 |
| FloatingGoat | thats too much yo | 16:08 |
| FloatingGoat | i dont even know how to use it | 16:08 |
| holstein | FloatingGoat: then, id say, dont bother with the mic either | 16:08 |
| holstein | FloatingGoat: are you a computer guy? | 16:09 |
| FloatingGoat | to an extend | 16:09 |
| FloatingGoat | extent | 16:09 |
| holstein | imagine i come to you right now and i say i want to use a 486 for something | 16:09 |
| holstein | right now.. | 16:09 |
| holstein | you could propose some slim linux scenarios | 16:09 |
| holstein | you could propose embedded | 16:09 |
| holstein | but, really... today, i would need a moderate baseline system | 16:10 |
| holstein | or, i might as well not bother | 16:10 |
| holstein | OR, just accept the sub-par performance of the 486 | 16:10 |
| holstein | and thats what im saying to you | 16:10 |
| holstein | you dont have the base line minimum yet | 16:10 |
| holstein | you dont *need* to spend a bunch of money | 16:10 |
| holstein | you dont need a mixer at all | 16:10 |
| FloatingGoat | http://ubuntuone.com/7S78zngXCIaduAmv1F05dH | 16:11 |
| holstein | but, you can see what a studio has and emulate that as best as you can | 16:11 |
| holstein | a studio would charge you $120 an hour | 16:11 |
| holstein | and you are going to pay that for your microphone | 16:11 |
| FloatingGoat | Art Tube MP Professional Mic Preamp/Processor | 16:11 |
| holstein | how can you expect to compete or compare with that without some decent tools? | 16:11 |
| FloatingGoat | what about that shet | 16:11 |
| holstein | thats a good cheap step up | 16:12 |
| holstein | how do you get in the computer with it? | 16:12 |
| holstein | you want to keep that clean | 16:12 |
| FloatingGoat | connectors | 16:12 |
| holstein | FloatingGoat: right | 16:12 |
| holstein | FloatingGoat: thats awful too | 16:12 |
| FloatingGoat | maybe a really good usb sound card | 16:12 |
| holstein | FloatingGoat: you need some USB interface, and those can come with pre's | 16:12 |
| holstein | so, i usually say its a better value to get a USB device with preamps on it | 16:12 |
| FloatingGoat | really? | 16:13 |
| holstein | sure | 16:13 |
| FloatingGoat | Art USB Dual Pre PS Two Channel Preamp with USB | 16:13 |
| holstein | FloatingGoat: yeah, your tracks are OK | 16:13 |
| FloatingGoat | thats not my favorite one | 16:13 |
| FloatingGoat | hmm | 16:13 |
| holstein | couple little tweaks and you'll clean that up | 16:13 |
| holstein | i would get the $30 tupe preamp | 16:13 |
| holstein | and the $30 USB beringer inferface | 16:14 |
| FloatingGoat | http://ubuntuone.com/3TSelC5UAIGI2O9KAf1Hxa I like this one a lot i made it a while back, one of my first tracks | 16:14 |
| holstein | OR, just some maudio all-in-one for $100 | 16:14 |
| holstein | i mean, those samples are "in the box" | 16:14 |
| holstein | and thats what you mostly do | 16:15 |
| holstein | maybe you just create the tracks, the midi ones, take them to a studio and sing over them | 16:15 |
| holstein | you could knock a bunch out in a few hours | 16:15 |
| FloatingGoat | what does in the box mean | 16:15 |
| FloatingGoat | i dont think i could though | 16:15 |
| holstein | FloatingGoat: the computer is responisble for creating and/or rendering those sounds | 16:16 |
| holstein | the mic doesnt matter | 16:16 |
| FloatingGoat | because it takes a lot of trial and error for me | 16:16 |
| holstein | the sound card doesnt matter | 16:16 |
| holstein | the preamps dont matter | 16:16 |
| holstein | for all intents and purposes, that music sounds as good as its ever going to sound, assuming you render it properly | 16:16 |
| holstein | the vocals can get cleaner | 16:16 |
| holstein | FloatingGoat: you dont think you could what? | 16:17 |
| holstein | go in the studio? | 16:17 |
| holstein | you just pay them and go... its a service, like buying a sandwich | 16:17 |
| FloatingGoat | no i mean | 16:17 |
| FloatingGoat | its hard for me to get a good recordin | 16:18 |
| holstein | yeah | 16:18 |
| holstein | thats why folks pay and get paid for this stuff | 16:18 |
| holstein | its not easy | 16:18 |
| holstein | sounds good though | 16:18 |
| holstein | i say, save some money, and buy some smart versitile gear at a good value | 16:19 |
| holstein | that mic is a good start | 16:19 |
| FloatingGoat | thats why i i think it would be better to get my own mic | 16:19 |
| holstein | FloatingGoat: i have my own mic | 16:19 |
| FloatingGoat | and like spend all day recording | 16:19 |
| FloatingGoat | one song | 16:19 |
| holstein | do what you want.. im just throwing out suggestions | 16:19 |
| holstein | all the options | 16:19 |
| holstein | anyways.. gotta run!.. enjoy! | 16:19 |
| holstein | nice tracks! | 16:19 |
| FloatingGoat | later bro and thanks | 16:20 |
| FloatingGoat | lol D: | 16:20 |
| FloatingGoat | :D* | 16:20 |
| thebishop | does anyone have a Korg Padkontrol? What software do you use with it? | 17:05 |
| Len-nb | thebishop, i do not have one, but it seems to me it is a type of midi controller? Is that correct? | 17:45 |
| MaynardWaters | whats that other channel, #opensourcemuscians? | 18:11 |
| MaynardWaters | missing an i, silly | 18:12 |
| qarma | alguien ofrece ayuda en español? porfavor | 18:52 |
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