[01:28] holstein: SHURE KSM32 [01:28] what do you think of that [01:31] might buy it [01:33] holstein: [01:39] horry shet [01:39] that production grade [02:08] anyone? [03:47] Hey I have a quick question about Ubuntu Studio [03:47] maybe someone here can help me out [03:48] 1st How does it run on a laptop? [03:48] Is it better for a desktop? [03:49] hello? [03:53] Eee-M0Nkie, it runs on a lap top or a netbook [03:54] Ok cool [03:54] was worried about power [03:54] better or worse depends on the desktop and the laptop. [03:55] I have found that memory is more important than cpu speed or power. [03:55] The Lap top im using is Quad core and 4 gigs ram [03:56] My netbook has 1 Gig of ram and an atom that runs at 1.6ghz. [03:56] I can still record glitchless sound. [03:56] How many tracks or how many softsynths is another question. [03:57] wow [03:57] cool so I shoul dbe okay then [03:57] should* [03:57] I have had ardour recording two tracks while hydrogen was supplying drums and playing 4 softsynths with up to 4 note at a time. [03:58] You may need an external sound card. [03:58] I have one [03:58] : ) [03:58] Sounds like you are set. [03:58] was just going to ask if that would help [03:59] Internal sound cards sound ok on the output, but the input circiutry is not so hot. [04:00] Thanks for the info [04:00] No problem [04:00] I am going to go cut the iso and get started [04:00] Easiest to use a USB stick [04:01] Of coarse I have no dvd drive, so that may colour my thoughts [04:03] I dont have free usb atm [04:03] lol [04:03] they all have important tools and various apps [04:03] for portable use [04:05] thanks again! [04:48] holstein: you there? [08:26] plotino: Your only option would be to see whether there's a newer version in -backports. [08:40] *oops* Disregard that, poor play with keyboard while thinking the network was down. [11:23] I am having a blank screen issue after install of UbuntuStudio 12.04 [11:23] need help... [15:19] FloatingGoat: hello? [15:19] hey [15:20] should i get the SHURE KSM32 [15:20] if you need/like it [15:21] ut you said et a really good mic [15:21] is taht one really goot [15:21] i would stay away from anything in the pg series from shure [15:21] good* [15:21] i think the ksm27 is more bang for the buck [15:21] thats a great mic though if you find a good deal on it [15:22] http://recordinghacks.com/microphones/Shure/KSM27 [15:22] http://recordinghacks.com/microphones/Shure/KSM32 [15:23] in that price range, i might go with another brand... but the shure gear is quite nice [15:33] i'll get it use for like 300 bucks [15:34] used [15:34] i would trus a used shure mic, as long as its what its supposed to be [15:34] trust* [15:34] though, the 27 new is still cheaper [15:35] now.. you find a used ksm27 for $100.. thats a deal :) [15:35] what do you like that mic? [15:36] i think both will be quite nice FloatingGoat [15:36] the value of the ksm27 is arguably more [15:36] better than the mxl? [15:36] FloatingGoat: mxl is a paperweight [15:36] you think its production grade? [15:36] you cant even compare the 2 [15:36] the 27 [15:36] ? [15:36] unless you want to go into the higher end mxl's [15:37] and i wouldnt [15:37] yeah [15:37] idk man i think the mxl sounds good [15:37] in that price range, you can get so much better mics, such as the ones wer are talking about [15:37] but im willing to go higher [15:37] we* [15:37] but ill buy used since used retains the products value [15:37] in theory [15:37] ii can just sell it for what i bought it when i need my money back [15:37] assuming it is what it is, and its working [15:37] yeah lol [15:38] im dealing with a used mic repair right now [15:38] its taking forever.. over a year [15:38] :'( [15:38] eh.. i got time to wait... but still [15:38] if you like the mxl, get it [15:38] naw [15:38] i have had one.. one of the higher end ones [15:38] sounded OK [15:38] i need something that will make my vocals sound like bejeebus [15:39] gold in gold out... [15:39] i wouldnt expect the equipment to "make you a star" so to speak [15:39] used 27's go for around 150 [15:39] thats OK i suppose [15:39] not much more for a new one [15:40] no i have some really great tracks that im going to run through production grade synths [15:40] i dont know what that means [15:40] alls left to do is finish writing the songs and record [15:40] im not sure how you can run a track through a synth [15:40] synths are just synthgs [15:40] synths* [15:40] no i mean [15:40] I made them in LMMS [15:40] theres not really a "production grade" synth [15:41] its all just MIDI, and/or samples [15:41] yeah there is lol [15:41] its up to you to keep them clean [15:41] FloatingGoat: nah [15:41] like the sh*t deamau5 uses n stuff [15:41] FloatingGoat: not really [15:41] yeah [15:41] thats high quality sh*t [15:41] nah [15:41] its all just samples [15:41] sounded good on flac [15:41] flac, wav.. whatever [15:41] yeah thats what i mean [15:41] need better samples [15:41] its just a samples [15:41] better is arguable [15:42] and im going to plug them into the piano roll [15:42] and a matter of opinion [15:42] idk my music now is missing something man [15:42] needs better quality samples [15:42] i dont care what you run them through, its just a sample [15:42] and the end result is likely CD.. or worse.. mp3 [15:42] so, no one will notice, or care about any of this ;) [15:42] nothing wrong with keeping tracks clean though [15:43] i dont do a lot with samples or sampling though [15:43] i do mostly recording of acoustic instruments [15:43] yeah its really had for me to get real recordings [15:44] well, looking at your environment, and some key pieces of gear can be an easy way to clean up your signal [15:44] assuming you need/want to make your own samples [15:44] otherwise, get out your wallet, buy some samples, and enjoy :) [15:46] whats 129 sound for the 27? [15:46] depends [15:46] if its clean and new-ish, thats a good deal [15:46] its a great mic [15:46] for that $$ [15:47] i might have to take a look at it [15:47] a pawn shop posted an ad for one on craigslist [15:48] cool [15:48] you could probably make a cash offer then [15:48] i would go in with $100, and walk slowly out the door if they refuse it [15:51] lol [15:51] come back in with 130? [15:52] maybe i can get them down to like 110 [15:52] its a small shop so possible [15:54] http://images.craigslist.org/5L25If5M63E63Fa3Nec5187aedca413591dcd.jpg [15:55] that look in good condition [15:55] ? [16:01] doesnt matter what the case looks like [16:01] those are sturdy mics though [16:02] thats a good value at 130 [16:04] is that real? [16:04] yeah it seems a good value [16:04] seeing as they go for 300 new [16:04] >.> [16:04] and you said to emulate the studio [16:04] so use mic right? :P [16:05] used* [16:05] FloatingGoat: they are $180 new [16:05] MY LIFE IS A LIE [16:05] the ksm27 is not the ksm32 [16:05] 32's are 500 new! [16:06] FloatingGoat: the only way to emulate the studio is to do just that [16:06] just do what? [16:06] get nice mics and preamps and rooms and other equipment [16:06] this is a decent mic [16:06] studios use it [16:06] will you sound good with it? [16:06] yeah son! [16:06] i have no idea [16:06] you want to hear what i already have on my sh*t mic? [16:06] if you got crap preamps, then that'll be the bottleneck [16:06] FloatingGoat: sure [16:07] okay sec [16:07] well i was tinking of gettin a cheap behriner [16:08] yup [16:08] and those are just that [16:08] cheap [16:08] lol bro [16:08] im not spending 200 bucks on a mixer [16:08] *no* studio uses *any* behringer preamps [16:08] ill do that on my computer [16:08] FloatingGoat: nope.. but you could spend $200 on a nice preamp [16:08] no bro [16:08] thats too much yo [16:08] i dont even know how to use it [16:08] FloatingGoat: then, id say, dont bother with the mic either [16:09] FloatingGoat: are you a computer guy? [16:09] to an extend [16:09] extent [16:09] imagine i come to you right now and i say i want to use a 486 for something [16:09] right now.. [16:09] you could propose some slim linux scenarios [16:09] you could propose embedded [16:10] but, really... today, i would need a moderate baseline system [16:10] or, i might as well not bother [16:10] OR, just accept the sub-par performance of the 486 [16:10] and thats what im saying to you [16:10] you dont have the base line minimum yet [16:10] you dont *need* to spend a bunch of money [16:10] you dont need a mixer at all [16:11] http://ubuntuone.com/7S78zngXCIaduAmv1F05dH [16:11] but, you can see what a studio has and emulate that as best as you can [16:11] a studio would charge you $120 an hour [16:11] and you are going to pay that for your microphone [16:11] Art Tube MP Professional Mic Preamp/Processor [16:11] how can you expect to compete or compare with that without some decent tools? [16:11] what about that shet [16:12] thats a good cheap step up [16:12] how do you get in the computer with it? [16:12] you want to keep that clean [16:12] connectors [16:12] FloatingGoat: right [16:12] FloatingGoat: thats awful too [16:12] maybe a really good usb sound card [16:12] FloatingGoat: you need some USB interface, and those can come with pre's [16:12] so, i usually say its a better value to get a USB device with preamps on it [16:13] really? [16:13] sure [16:13] Art USB Dual Pre PS Two Channel Preamp with USB [16:13] FloatingGoat: yeah, your tracks are OK [16:13] thats not my favorite one [16:13] hmm [16:13] couple little tweaks and you'll clean that up [16:13] i would get the $30 tupe preamp [16:14] and the $30 USB beringer inferface [16:14] http://ubuntuone.com/3TSelC5UAIGI2O9KAf1Hxa I like this one a lot i made it a while back, one of my first tracks [16:14] OR, just some maudio all-in-one for $100 [16:14] i mean, those samples are "in the box" [16:15] and thats what you mostly do [16:15] maybe you just create the tracks, the midi ones, take them to a studio and sing over them [16:15] you could knock a bunch out in a few hours [16:15] what does in the box mean [16:15] i dont think i could though [16:16] FloatingGoat: the computer is responisble for creating and/or rendering those sounds [16:16] the mic doesnt matter [16:16] because it takes a lot of trial and error for me [16:16] the sound card doesnt matter [16:16] the preamps dont matter [16:16] for all intents and purposes, that music sounds as good as its ever going to sound, assuming you render it properly [16:16] the vocals can get cleaner [16:17] FloatingGoat: you dont think you could what? [16:17] go in the studio? [16:17] you just pay them and go... its a service, like buying a sandwich [16:17] no i mean [16:18] its hard for me to get a good recordin [16:18] yeah [16:18] thats why folks pay and get paid for this stuff [16:18] its not easy [16:18] sounds good though [16:19] i say, save some money, and buy some smart versitile gear at a good value [16:19] that mic is a good start [16:19] thats why i i think it would be better to get my own mic [16:19] FloatingGoat: i have my own mic [16:19] and like spend all day recording [16:19] one song [16:19] do what you want.. im just throwing out suggestions [16:19] all the options [16:19] anyways.. gotta run!.. enjoy! [16:19] nice tracks! [16:20] later bro and thanks [16:20] lol D: [16:20] :D* [17:05] does anyone have a Korg Padkontrol? What software do you use with it? [17:45] thebishop, i do not have one, but it seems to me it is a type of midi controller? Is that correct? [18:11] whats that other channel, #opensourcemuscians? [18:12] missing an i, silly [18:52] alguien ofrece ayuda en español? porfavor