[11:03] <mr_pouit> micahg: thanks! (nice to known mousepad doesn't use the dropped functions :p)
[11:50] <ochosi> mr_pouit: do you need anything from me for the display-dialog? i mean is there any way i can help you with it (apart from what i did already)?
[11:52] <mr_pouit> ochosi: do you have a mockup for the --minimal dialog box?
[11:52] <ochosi> mr_pouit: not yet, good point
[11:53] <ochosi> i think what i'd want there is a quick way to extend/clone the desktop (with best guess) and a button to go to the actual settings dialog
[11:54] <mr_pouit> yeah, the mockup from the spec isn't too bad I guess
[11:54] <ochosi> you mean from ubuntu's spec?
[11:55] <ochosi> (wow, solarized is such a beautiful terminal-color-theme)
[11:55] <ochosi> i think that's what we should use for 12.10
[11:56] <ochosi> would be nice to have support for multiple color-palettes in xfce4-terminal
[11:56] <mr_pouit> meh, I'm not happy, at this rate, 4.12 will be gtk2
[11:56] <ochosi> nick just isn't happy with gtk3
[11:57] <ochosi> he has repeatedly stated that now
[11:57] <ochosi> and since he does all the work, i think it's pretty safe to assume now that they'll stick to gtk2
[11:57] <ochosi> would you mind if we patch a launcher for catfish into thunar?
[11:58] <ochosi> instead of the "home"-button next to the locationbar
[11:58] <ochosi> a simple "search in this folder" launcher
[11:58] <mr_pouit> (but it's naive to assume that gtk3 will have fixed all issues after xfce 4.12 anyway)
[11:59] <mr_pouit> there's already a custom action on right click?
[11:59] <ochosi> yes, but it's not discoverable enough imo
[11:59] <ochosi> and now that sean is pimping catfish i think we can dare to make it more prominent
[12:00] <ochosi> (yes, i totally agree. i've no clue what the long-term - or even mid-term - strategy is here. it's more just a "boo, gtk3 sucks"...)
[12:01] <mr_pouit> I think thunar uses the pathbar style by default
[12:01] <mr_pouit> (no home button)
[12:01] <mr_pouit> but feel free to replace it
[12:02] <ochosi> what if we patch the search-button into the pathbar as well?
[12:02] <ochosi> i mean just pack the pathbar inside a hbox: "pathbar | search"
[12:02] <ochosi> pathbar is a toolbar and takes care of it's overflow anyway
[12:03] <ochosi> so it shouldn't be a real issue
[12:03] <ochosi> just a few lines of code for opening catfish in the current-dir
[12:03] <ochosi> at least i'd love to do that as long as we don't have a panel-plugin for catfish
[12:06] <ochosi> or would that create a potential dependency issue?
[12:06] <ochosi> (i mean thunar would then depend on catfish because of the stupid button)
[12:06] <ochosi> (or just add a check whether catfish is there, otherwise hide the button?)
[12:08] <mr_pouit> yeah, better with the check :p
[12:08] <ochosi> :)
[12:08] <ochosi> that would have to be there at runtime i guess
[12:36] <ochosi> mr_pouit: i'll be on a train without internet in 20min, but i'll probably design a few things for the display dialog on the way
[12:36] <mr_pouit> okay, nice
[12:37] <mr_pouit> I'm still busy rebuilding all panel plugins against xfce4-panel 4.10 ;-)
[12:37] <ochosi> this was the right spec, right? https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aHvJ-iIw-59bXTYBmIhQqEx0za2h9jpFE_RhZ2VOvJc/edit?authkey=CJO5wPkH&hl=en_GB&pli=1
[12:37] <ochosi> hehe, i see
[12:37] <mr_pouit> yeah
[12:38] <ochosi> i'd really love to have a line-light-like plugin for catfish, but as long as catfish is python that's just wishful thinking i guess..
[12:44] <ochosi> mr_pouit: i'll probably also take a stab at a multihead-spec for xubuntu, not as comprehensive as ubuntu's, but trying to aim a bit higher than just the display-dialog button-layout
[12:46] <mr_pouit> okay
[13:10] <mr_pouit> bbl
[13:39] <satop> it is possible to use vlc instead of different audio and video players in xubuntu 12.10 without qt by using gnome-media-player it only needs to be fixed :-) it is broken :-(
[13:50] <bluesabre_laptop> satop: Is there any reason we avoid mplayer?  I've had as much success rate with mplayer as vlc for most media
[13:54] <satop1> bluesabre also for wma files ? 
[14:15] <laite> I really think it's best to have one good application for each specific task, and imo playing video and audio are so different from one another that they require separate programs
[14:18] <bluesabre_laptop> laite: I agree.  I wasn't paying attention to the conversation, I thought this was just for replacing parole
[14:19] <bluesabre_laptop> satop1: The wma files probably do present a problem, unless you've got w32codecs/w64codecs, but they're in the medibuntu repo (licensing issues, right)?
[14:21] <bluesabre_laptop> ochosi: catfish -- fixed the thumbnail display and sorting by date (probably).  Added about dialog.
[14:22] <satop1> ok
[20:32] <satop> hello i have a problem with the mouse cursor theme in xubuntu 12.04 with xfce 4.10 i installed oxygen-icon-theme from the repositories changed the setting in xfce settings and in update-alternatives --config x-cursor-theme ... so i have the same cursor everywhere ... but when i try to resize window i see another "ugly" cursor theme 
[22:41] <ochosi> bluesabre_laptop: very cool! i'll check it out right now
[22:41] <ochosi> mr_pouit: ok, i put together a good part of the spec, or at least how i'd imagine it
[22:42] <ochosi> mr_pouit: i'll put it somewhere on the xubuntu-wiki for now. although it's relevant to xfce as well, it's more a distro-issue...
[22:47] <ochosi> bluesabre_laptop: oh btw, it would be useful if the treeview-headers were "fixed" (as in html, so they always stay at the same position, even if you scroll)
[22:49] <ochosi> bluesabre_laptop: it seems you forgot to add that you fixed the window-icon! very nice :)
[23:00] <ochosi> mr_pouit: the spec is not finished yet, but there's already some essential parts you might wanna read through / comment on: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Roadmap/Specifications/Quantal/MultipleMonitors
[23:00] <ochosi> knome: i know you get emails about wiki-pages anyway, but i started with a multi-monitor spec for xubuntu today
[23:01] <ochosi> knome: this is obviously connected to the display-dialog improvements that are planned with lionel
[23:01] <ochosi> knome: feel free to read through and give feedback. anyway, it's still WIP
[23:23] <ochosi> bluesabre_laptop: one interesting feat would be loading thumbnails (like thunar) where possible through tumbler