[00:01] hello [00:01] i am installin xubuntu 12.04 :D [00:01] no speak english :8 [00:02] xubuntu788, what is your language? [00:03] spanish [00:03] is a older pc, pentium 4, 2. 4 gz, 1.5 ram [00:03] xubuntu788, :) por favor entra en #ubuntu-es [00:03] :D [00:04] allá voy [00:04] gracias! [00:46] hi [00:47] i like the dock but i would like to remove it and install cairo dock [00:47] is it possible? [00:48] Ntemis, its not a dock [00:48] its just a panel [00:48] you can simple delete it but it will never come back [00:49] i prefer cairo dock anw [00:49] :) [00:49] as said, its just a panel [00:49] great work you done here guys [00:49] :D [00:50] am newbie at xubuntu [00:50] glad you like it, the devs will be happy :D [00:50] but i really hate that canonical is using users as beta testers on that sh..ty unity [00:51] it sucks [00:51] i want my old gnome back [00:51] Ntemis: that's really off-topic here, please don't bash other systems [00:51] but i found a new base to land ;) [00:52] I've never used cairo dock, but I'd suggest doing some google searches for like: xfce cairo dock [00:52] my bad pleia2 [00:54] Why does gmusicbrowser play music that isn't in my current filter? [01:00] thanks pleia2 i am a cairo dock user for many years [01:02] gambo, because, the filter just shows you what you searched, but the playlist is still whole [01:02] gambo, install another media player, you will be happier [01:02] hahah [01:02] * GridCube has really bad opinions on gmusicbrowser [01:02] i see [01:03] it definitely seems counter-intuitive so far =/ [01:03] but dont take them from me, please enjoy messing your brain trying to figure out how it works [01:03] you will have an eureka moment, believe me [01:04] well, I have gripes with amarok and banshee... are there others that are as powerful? [01:05] (and rhythmbox) [01:05] in any case, install exaile, or audacious (not a bad mediatheque actually), clementine, rhytmbox [01:06] theres a new one, let me find it [01:08] gambo, http://getnightingale.com/ [01:09] hmm, will check it out, thanks! [01:09] :) de nada [03:00] There, seriously, is a working IRC client built into the (X)Ubuntu install process?? Is this real life? [03:01] You need to wake up, Neo. [03:01] That's a whole bunch of awesome, dipped in a bucket of odd. [03:03] Wonder what happens if I start bookmarking stuff in this FF instance... [03:04] I'll find out,after the install is complete, if those bookmarks make it into system. [03:04] They won't. [03:05] Oh. [03:05] :) [03:06] Still a pretty awesome time-kill while it installs. I've not used anything except the 'alternate' install in years. [03:06] (Habit from when the graphical install was flaky) === xubuntu054 is now known as HOO === HOO is now known as Frumious === Frumious is now known as Bandersnatch === Bandersnatch is now known as FuriousGeorge === FuriousGeorge is now known as GuriousForge === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [06:28] anyone familiar with xfce accessibility [06:38] !ask | Fudge [06:38] Fudge: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [06:39] baizon i actually did ask a question and I am familiar with !ask, thanks [06:39] but this will include a next question [06:41] loL yes [06:44] I want to be able to set accessibility on in xfce without using the gui to do it [06:46] see ;) [06:46] how come? [06:50] baizon because I use orca to use the desktop and without accessibility turned on orca doesnt work [06:51] so unless someone can provide instructions to do it withotu seeing the screen or as I thought changing a conf file or using sed to enable accessibility. but i dont know where the setting is [06:56] Fudge: man orca [06:56] Fudge: something like "orca -t" should be what you want :) [06:57] I use orca all the time, orca starts but it does not set accessibility [06:58] orca --enable [06:58] ? [06:59] a sec.. [07:03] hrm, can't find it from xfconf [07:04] apparently it can be done within xfce [07:04] the only thing I get though is welcome to orca, the rest of it doesnt work until accessibility is enabled [07:09] * Fudge shrugs === usa_today[AFK] is now known as usa_today [11:00] hi all, upgrade time is here for me :) [11:59] ok, so the upgrade did not go smooth :( , being a bit to optimistic === usa_today[AFK] is now known as usa_today [12:54] brasero [12:54] recon_tv: you could try ripperx [12:57] can brasero rip cd:s? I thought it was only for burning them [12:59] trying ripperx [13:01] thx, ripperx works a charm [13:03] yeah ,it ripperx [13:04] in firefox tabs ,the fonts are in different dark [13:09] wonder why releases nearly always mess up really simple things, like playing mp3's !!!! [13:10] if you did fresh install, it's because mp3 codec is licenced and can't be bundled in cd [13:10] licenced with wrong licence that is, if it was GPL/BSD/something it would be okay [13:11] seems ripperx gave me a bunch of 2kb files [13:13] recon_tv the lame lib is in the repos [13:13] no, can play mp3's, ripping them seems to be the problem [13:16] ripperx encodes mp3 files, watch the size increase in filemanager as it works, when it finishes the size drops back to 2kb, ?? [13:18] 2kb is some sort of info text file [13:18] your doing something wrong [13:19] recon_tv: did you check from ripperx's config that there is mp3-encoder selected [13:19] install package 'lame' if you can't find any suitable encoder [13:21] lame encode was selected, trying to flac now [13:27] worked to flack, wonder if it's a bug [13:27] even worked on CD2 :) [13:36] recon_tv good boy for using flac, even how unvoluntairy :p [13:37] mp3 was default, moved over to flack, but a lot of portable players do not like it [13:38] anyway, white mink black cotton is a rocking album if you into swing [13:39] hello all, I can`t boot alternative Xubuntu 12.04 from USB stic [13:39] stick* [13:40] I have google it and made all changes written in the net but nothing happens [13:42] milen8204: could be lots of things, how does it fail to boot? [13:43] and what did you use to make the usb image [13:50] no defoult or UI configuration foun [13:50] or something like that === usa_today[AFK] is now known as usa_today [13:51] Ubuntu 11.10 startin disk creator [13:51] I used [13:51] that to make my USB disk [13:52] milen8204 what os you using to create the usb stick? [13:53] recon_tv, Ubuntu 11.10 [13:54] have you tried usb-creator-gtk , that'll probably work better [13:55] the USB stick boots on my laptop but does not on my PC [13:56] sounds like a conflict then, have you tried to boot to terminal? [14:05] brighttness applet not working [14:05] boot to terminal? [14:09] aquix: press shift as you boot to get boot menu, look for rescue mode or boot to terminal as an option. [14:09] aquix: I think, not sure of this and busy rebooting one of my boxes already [14:10] try startx [14:13] aquix, startx ? [14:15] milen8204 it's a command to start x.org and then your desktop enviroment: startx [14:16] milen8204: when you get to a terminal if you type startx it will start the windows manager [14:17] milen8204 then you can look at the error message if there is one [14:18] recon_tv, but I am trying to install Xubuntu 12.04, and does not boot trough bios [14:18] have no terminal there [14:18] milen8204 install it how? [14:18] to another PC [14:19] using cd or usb? [14:19] I try to boot Xubuntu 12.04 installation using USB stick [14:20] milen8204 in older bioses you have to set the hdd boot order since the usb stick will register as a hard drive. [14:21] I wrote .iso file on CD but in the middle of installation an error-massage appeared and interrupted the installation [14:21] aquix, ok [14:22] I will try [14:22] milen8204: did you check the CD for errors? are you booting off the CD when you get the error, or when you are installing , still unclear [14:23] milen8204 use unetbootin for making a live usb, btw [14:24] aquix, does not work still get that massage [14:25] crap [14:25] refresh my nuggin. what is that message [14:26] aquix, how to check CD ? [14:26] milen8204 you can check the iso you downloaded by comparing md5 hash sums [14:27] milen8204, tell us again exactly what you are doing and what is happening [14:27] but let's be real. doesn't happen [14:27] recon_tv, I am trying to install Xubuntu 12.04 on my old PC [14:28] hope this does not turn into 20 yes/no questions [14:28] are you using a usb stick or a cd to install from? [14:28] hes using a usb stick [14:28] it fails on him [14:28] I had downloaded desctop iso file [14:28] first I have burn it on CD [14:29] but in the middle of installation an error appeared [14:29] milen8204 what did you format the usb stick with? recommended i fat 32 [14:29] oh [14:29] and tried to install iso file whit USB [14:30] aquix, I have formatted FAT 32 [14:30] good [14:31] milen8204: when you boot from cd, there should be a option to check the cd, try that first [14:31] milen8204 you mention both cd and usb. we need to now what happened with both methods. [14:31] now I tried to install whit USB but I am getting an error no DEFAUT or UI configuration directive faund [14:31] milen8204 do you get to the grub menu? [14:31] whit CD yes [14:32] and usb? [14:32] USB no [14:32] :D [14:33] milen8204: you bios probably not set to boot from usb [14:33] yezh, but still have cd issues [14:34] so let check the CD!!!!! [14:34] milen8204 when you get to the menu, press tab key, then replace quiet splash with nomodeset [14:34] recon_tv, no I had installed Lubuntu 11.10 whit USB stick [14:34] and report the errors you get [14:35] those damn l folks :) [14:36] I have wrote the error that appeared [14:37] true, but have you run the check on the CD, that should be easy [14:37] would give us a good starting point too [14:38] The installer encountered an unrecoverablee error. A desktop session will now be run so that you may investigate the problem or try to install again [14:38] recon_tv, I chaked md5sum on .iso [14:38] but not to CD [14:39] ok, check cd, if it's ok, try reinstall, might just be a glitch [14:39] recon_tv, how to check it ? [14:40] boot to the CD's grub menu and select "check CD" [14:40] ohh :D [14:40] ok [14:43] m60 back to mint you bastard [14:43] lol [14:43] heh [14:44] So you're saying Mint is superior to Ubuntu / Xubuntu, aquix ? Bold statement to make here ...-) [14:45] anyone installing on acer ao751h? [14:46] I question you logic m60? he only implied that you are a mint user [14:50] milen8204: you find where to check the cd? [14:52] recon_tv, yes thanks now I am checking it [14:57] and he left, bastard [14:58] spocked him lol [14:59] xfce will do that :) [15:01] bet i'll be crying like a baby after a i finish upgrading my primary machine [15:02] have to spend a day resetting the layout [15:02] meh, thats like 2 hours [15:02] partitioning layout? [15:02] UI layout [15:03] cop on the beat :) [15:03] but totally changing it takes like 15mins, 30 tops :p [15:03] but six years was a good run with the last one. [15:04] Sysi, maybe for you, but there are so many little things [15:04] I think I reinstall at least six times a year [15:04] I have my firefox layout backed up with FEBE, but a fresh profile is always the best [15:04] recon_tv, no errors found [15:05] milen8204: so, just install it again and see if you get an error. [15:05] six reinstalls in a year? distro hopping went to distro madness. [15:06] arch is nice [15:06] recon_tv, it is my third install and still get the error: The installer encountered an unrecoverablee error. A desktop session will now be run so that you may investigate the problem or try to install again [15:06] I installed lots of distro after I tried unity, but only moving my main comp over now [15:10] nice gmusic opens many windows if you open many files :( [15:13] milen8204 that sucks balls. but I'm out of options personally. Might be hardware failure. [15:13] aggh, still closing gmusic windows [15:14] milen8204: Is this your 3d install using 1) the same DISC; 2) the same ISO image or 3) same burning software? [15:14] recon_tv get clementine on that thing and forget about that junk. [15:14] drc, the same CD [15:15] milen8204: ?? [15:16] milen8204: Someone famous once defined insanity as doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. [15:17] drc that was Einstein [15:17] drc, this is the first time we are doing it knowing the cd is ok. [15:17] recon_tv: ok...sorry... [15:20] aquix: I know...but I can never remember "i before e"... :) [15:20] drc :) [15:22] recon_tv, I had tried two times before [15:22] now i have cheked the CD [15:22] and the CD is k [15:22] ok* [15:24] sure, and it'll probably fail again, then we can try startx in terminal to try work out whats wrong with UI [15:24] milen8204 this is not normal, not sure if your new to linux' [15:26] I am using Ubuntu for an year [15:27] aquix, I think so that is not normal :D that why I am asking for an advice :D [15:28] well, ubuntu for 6 years and computers for 25 years, far from an expert but I have a good feel for fault finding :) [15:28] and you nearly always end up doing it one step at a time === epzil0n is now known as Guest76121 [15:32] milen8204: installing still? [15:35] yes :D [15:35] now I have tried onother option [15:36] I have installed Lubuntu 11.10 (because I have a disk) and now whit Xubuntu 12.04 disk I have chosen the option upgrade Ubuntu 11.10 to Xubuntu 12.04 [15:37] and will see what will happen [15:37] :D [15:37] lol, into upgrade territory, just means we will have to do it again if it fails [15:38] milen8204: you need to tell us these details [15:38] milen8204: an upgrade is very different from an install [15:39] recon_tv, yes i [15:39] know [15:39] but install fails [15:39] every time [15:39] Thats why I have tried upgrade [15:39] :D === usa_today[AFK] is now known as usa_today [15:43] recon_tv, that error appeared in that option too [15:43] The installer encountered an unrecoverablee error. A desktop session will now be run so that you may investigate the problem or try to install again [15:45] ok, so do you get a desktop session? [15:47] milen8204: so did you get a desktop session? [15:48] yes [15:48] I downloaded the desctop session [15:48] so have you got a UI or a desktop? [15:49] a terminal or a desktop i mean [15:49] Hello! I am having trouble with the Xubuntu Live CD. I'm trying to run it on an older Dell Desktop computer, but it just hangs on the loading screen. The bar is still moving back and forth, but it has been running for about 5-10 minutes now and still hasn't loaded into the desktop environment. This is true when I select "Try Without Installing" and "Install" options. Any ideas? [15:50] Fowarek: I would try the alternative installer next for a text install [15:51] recon_tv, I done understand sorry [15:51] I have desktop [15:51] milen8204: do you want to try from the usb, check your bios to see if it will boot from it [15:52] Okay, I'll try the alt installer then. Thanks! [15:52] recon_tv, my USB does not run at all [15:53] it does not boot [15:53] My CD runs but it fails to install Xubuntu [15:53] maybe it's not set in the BIOS? have you checked? [15:55] milen8204: the error you described has been reported by others, i'm looking at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1487937&highlight=default+ui+configuration , but it's a bit old [15:56] aha [15:56] I had a google search but that I made did not work [15:57] milen8204: I suggest using usb-creator-gtk as i used it today to create a live usb, AND CHECK YOUR BIOS!!!!!!! [15:58] recon_tv, I checked it I have set in BIOS USB as HDD device [15:59] recon_tv, I will try alternative .iso [16:00] milen8204: I think however you created the usb and cd is bugged and would like to try with usb-creator-gtk as there are no questions other than what iso to use [16:01] ok will try [16:02] milen8204: read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick [16:04] sorry have to go, match just started :) [16:05] recon_tv, i am using usb-creator-gtk [16:05] to create USB [16:07] milen8204: try with that, i'll be back in a bit === recon69_lap is now known as recon_lap [16:45] milen8204: you get anywhere with the install? [16:46] recon69_lap, yes I downloaded alternative version, burned on CD, now I am installing it :D [16:46] so far, so good :D [16:53] anyone know how to add a new toolbar? [16:58] toolbar? [16:58] you mean a panel? [16:58] yep, panel [16:59] righ click > panel > preferences > BIG GREEN + [16:59] WHen setting up a dual boot with W7 the partition slider has two boxes showing the W7 partitoin and the future Xubuntu partition but it doesn't say which partition is the W7 partition, I presume the one on the left is W7 and the one on the right is for Xubuntu? [16:59] Putting Xubuntu on my friend's netbook, I'm normally a Slackware/Gentoo user and haven't touched *buntu in years. [16:59] lol, there it is >:o [17:00] Connor|Work, can i see an screenshot of gparted? [17:01] can parole reproduce flac? [17:01] Yes, hold on [17:01] martian, dunno [17:02] Also any particular reason why jwm won't work on Xubuntu? I put Xubuntu on my netbook after arriving to work and finding that my Sabayon partition was gone, I picked jwm as my window manager but no panel or anything shows up when I log in, right click doesn't even do anything [17:02] Uploading screenshot now [17:02] martinphone, it uses gstreamer so i bet it does [17:03] http://exifdata.com/images/1337446987.99_Screenshot%20-%2005192012%20-%2005:01:33%20PM.png [17:03] Connor|Work, i dont know about jwm, i just use xfwm4 [17:03] I normally use XFCE but I'm trying out different window managers and such [17:04] Got nothing to do today [17:04] ok Connor|Work thats the installer partition manager, please open gparted :) [17:05] Aight [17:05] GridCube: using that installer partition manager, why would it not show which OS is which partition? [17:06] http://exifdata.com/images/1337447153.36_kdksd.png [17:06] Connor|Work, i don't know it usually shows which partition will be the destiny painting it in a color with the logo [17:06] ok so yea, the tiny one should end up as xubuntus [17:06] maybe you have to click to select it? [17:07] Nope [17:07] i don't really know i usually just let the installer do it automagically or preset the partitions on gparted and the choose the destinys by hand [18:06] по русски [18:07] Привет всем!!!!!! [18:07] help [18:08] !ru [18:08] Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke. [19:21] is anyone reading what i'm writing? [19:22] Yep. [19:22] nice! [19:22] it is my first time with xubuntu [19:22] with linux at all [19:22] ofcoz it is [19:23] i've alreay tried it before but it doesn't worked well before [19:23] hey marzata fuck off [19:23] i'm just starting what doesnt mean that you can mock on me [19:23] so shut up pls ;) [19:24] ofcoz it means [19:24] what big expert you are, you should be helping me man [19:26] well, lets go straight to the point [19:26] i'm trying to access my files which are on windows [19:26] do you know what should I do? [19:26] xubuntu416: please don't use that kind of language in here, be nice to us [19:26] xubuntu416: when you open up the file manager, does it show the windows drive? [19:27] windows? [19:27] Marzata: please be helpful if you're going to participate here :) [19:28] sorry man, i didn't really want to say that [19:28] yes, windows [19:29] yes, it appears but says that it fails to mount the drive :S [19:29] windows is in VB? [19:30] Did it give any errors? And is the drive on the same disk but different partition? [19:32] yes [19:32] and i need to say that this system is really good, man, well usable! [19:33] !ntfs-3g [19:33] ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions [19:34] chown to current user of mount point directory works for me [19:35] thank you! i'll read it now [19:37] Not sure if the program Gigolo would mount that or not. [19:38] what a exclusive root operation means? [19:39] means that only root can do it [19:40] !root [19:40] Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo [19:43] will read it also [19:44] didn't understand it quite well [19:49] someone? [19:51] no [19:51] sorry [19:51] what? [19:52] ok, no problem i'll try it in another way [19:52] i'm trying to access my files on windows [19:52] from linux? [19:52] if only someone had attempted such a thing before, and extensively documented it on the Internet [19:53] xubuntu416, are you using wubi? [19:53] screw that ... We're helping you now [19:53] it is my first time with this system i cant understand what i read [19:53] xubuntu416, are you using a lice cd? [19:53] no installed it [19:53] xubuntu416, ok [19:54] do you not have an icon on the desktop of a drive? [19:54] yes, it says Acer [19:54] that is the brand of my notebook [19:54] thats your windows partition [19:55] but says that it cant"mount" or something [19:55] open it [19:55] ookay [19:55] thats different [19:55] now open a terminal [19:55] ok [19:55] terminal emulator, right? [19:56] yep [19:56] xubuntu416, you know how to pastebin? [19:57] no, what is this? [19:57] !pastebin [19:57] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [19:58] that means, go to paste.ubuntu.com, and paste the results of the things im going to ask you now [19:58] so i can see what the problem ok? [19:58] ok [19:59] i understand, thank you [19:59] now, on the terminal type this: sudo fdisk -l [19:59] and pass me the results [20:00] ok [20:01] :D i found out thats faster, you can do simply: sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit [20:01] and it will upload it for you :D [20:01] and will give you a link [20:01] how awesome is that [20:02] http://paste.ubuntu.com/996372/ [20:02] yes, it is nice [20:02] XD [20:02] i didnt know about it [20:02] you did not put your password [20:02]