[03:05] <micahg> eagles0513875: I'd suggest trying on Monday :)
[04:11] <eagles0513875> micahg: ok :( won't have much time sadly :( due to an exam
[04:13] <micahg> eagles0513875: weekday I mean vs weekend
[04:14] <eagles0513875> i tried friday evening central European time
[09:45] <jtaylor> micahg: is bug 655192 really sru worthy?
[09:46] <micahg> jtaylor: it's a simple enough fix, I figured why not
[09:47] <jtaylor> hm it is a good learning bug
[10:28] <geser> anyone familiar with current python packaging can take a look at https://launchpadlibrarian.net/104394860/buildlog_ubuntu-quantal-i386.python-traits_4.1.0-1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz and tell if the package is doing something now obsolete?
[10:29] <geser> I'm also about the warning "W: dh_python2:90: Python 2.7 should install files in /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/. Did you forget "--install-layout=deb"?"
[10:29] <geser> is --install-layout=deb not needed anymore?
[10:42] <jtaylor> weird dh_python2 does not appear to work
[10:43] <geser> is it perhaps due to install in site-packages instead of dist-packages?
[10:43] <jtaylor> they are in dist-packages in the end
[10:43] <jtaylor> but maybe thats dh_python2's doing
[10:44] <geser> ah, right
[10:44] <jtaylor> indeed it is
[10:45] <geser> those "find" calls which produce that error come from a -predeb target in debian/rules
[10:45] <jtaylor> why does cdbs not set --install-layout
[10:45] <geser> good questions, it looks like got dropped
[10:45] <jtaylor> that would be very weird
[10:45] <geser> also in Debian too
[10:46] <geser> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/debian/sid/cdbs/sid/view/head:/1/class/python-distutils.mk.in
[10:54] <jtaylor> ah its an ubuntu only change to dh_python2
[10:54] <jtaylor> an illadvised one ...
[10:54] <jtaylor> ubuntus dh_python2 does not do the psshared move as we only have one supported version
[10:55] <jtaylor> but many packages use the pyshared folders
[10:55] <jtaylor> this is wrong, but so convinient even I did it in the past ;)
[10:56] <geser> so we need to modify packages like python-traits to work on the non-pyshared directory?
[10:56] <jtaylor> yes
[10:56] <jtaylor> and file a bug in debian
[10:56] <jtaylor> or revert the change in ubuntu
[10:57] <geser> I doubt filing those bugs in Debian would be welcomed as they don't apply do Debian
[10:57] <jtaylor> let me check my pymodules checkout for how many are affected
[10:58] <jtaylor> :/ I deleted it
[11:14] <jtaylor> I'll file a bug to revert this
[11:14] <jtaylor> to many packages are affected by that to just go and fix it shortly before wheezy freeze
[11:15] <geser> Debian still ships a pyshared directory, right?
[11:17] <jtaylor> yes
[11:17] <jtaylor> they still have two python directories
[11:18] <jtaylor> bug 1001912
[11:19] <geser> I guess it's the usual expected fallout in universe which the MOTUs should fix (similar to other toolchain changes)
[11:20] <geser> btw: I've fixed python-pyface, python-traits and python-traitsui (3 FTBFS less :) )
[11:24] <jtaylor> yey more diff from debian ...
[11:24] <jtaylor> for no real gain
[11:25] <jtaylor> I filed a bug against traits, lets see if that causes some reaction
[12:36] <geser> ScottK: Hi, as you are sort of familiar with the boost situation: do you if libbboost-all-dev will get installable again? or should packages which need boost mpi switch to build with boost1.48?
[13:30] <ScottK> geser: It will.  I need to work on that.
[13:43] <vibhav> chu: Because you /window 13
[13:43] <vibhav> oops :(
[13:47] <jtaylor> geser: did you file bugs fir pyface and traitsui?
[13:51] <geser> jtaylor: not yet, will wait on the reaction on your bug first. I'm in no mood to forward bugs for issues which are "Ubuntu-only" in the eyes of the DDs (especially Python ones)
[13:52] <jtaylor> geser: they have the same maintainer so one bug is probably enough
[15:28] <jtaylor> I'm just looking at the eggdrop sru, precise has a format-security patch oneiric doesn't
[15:28] <jtaylor> one of the issues looks scetchy but I can'T really judge if its a real issue
[15:28] <jtaylor> can I add the patch to oneiric in the sru?
[15:28] <jtaylor> bug 885329
[15:28] <jtaylor> just to be sure
[15:35] <jtaylor> nevermind the patch is buggy
[15:43] <dupondje> eggdrop is bit buggy :(
[15:46] <jtaylor> yes it looks quite awful
[15:46] <jtaylor> we alsoc an't merge with debian as the ssl patch does not exist for .20
[15:47] <jtaylor> and ubuntu has a license violation of linking ssl against gpl code ...
[15:49] <dupondje> jtaylor: http://www.egghelp.org/files/patches/eggdrop-1.6.20-ssl.zip
[15:49] <jtaylor> dupondje: that one does not work on 64 bit
[15:50] <dupondje> what patch is used now ?
[15:50] <dupondje> as bas
[15:50] <dupondje> e*
[15:50] <jtaylor> .19
[15:51] <dupondje> yea but there are multiple :)
[15:51] <jtaylor> no idea
[15:55] <dupondje> jtaylor: SSL is only diff in debian & ubuntu ?
[15:55] <jtaylor> yes
[15:55] <dupondje> shouldn't be to hard :)
[15:55] <jtaylor> if you have a good patch
[15:55]  * Laney spots dupondje volunteering to take it on
[15:55] <jtaylor> which we don't
[15:55] <Laney> also to port it to gnutls eh
[15:56] <jtaylor> I'd suggest waiting for 1.8 which has native ssl
[15:56] <jtaylor> and hopefully a ssl license exception
[15:56] <dupondje> why it needs to be moved to gnutls ? :)
[16:05] <jtaylor> does dcut work in ubuntu?
[16:06] <Laney> no
[16:08] <dupondje> I don't know if somebody here can review https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/remmina/+bug/937522
[17:18]  * dupondje thinks it shouldn't be TO hard to port eggdrop ssl patch to gnutls :)
[17:40] <dupondje> jtaylor: ?
[17:41] <dupondje> you think its usefull to work on porting ssl patch to GnuTLS ?
[17:41] <jtaylor> I don't know
[17:42] <jtaylor> first you should check how upstream solved the openssl license issue
[17:42] <jtaylor> (probably by ignoring it)
[17:42] <dupondje> upstream ?
[17:43] <jtaylor> the eggdrop developers
[17:43] <dupondje> eggdrop dev does not include SSL in 1.6.x
[17:43] <dupondje> so :)
[17:43] <jtaylor> but in 1.8
[17:43] <jtaylor> brb
[17:44] <dupondje> jtaylor: nothing in it about openssl it seems
[17:44] <dupondje> so indeed :) ignoring it :P
[18:14] <jtaylor> ok another problem with eggdrop
[18:16] <jtaylor> a no my mistake
[18:37] <dupondje> jtaylor: so what you think, try to make a GnuTLS patch ?
[18:37] <jtaylor> dupondje: contact upstream about that
[18:39] <dupondje> upstream is quite dead
[18:39] <dupondje> last commit is months ago in the 1.8 branch :s
[18:39] <jtaylor> then there is probably not much point in a port
[18:52] <Laney> man, I remember running an eggdrop bot back in the day
[18:52] <Laney> must be 10 years ago now
[18:52] <Laney> sad if it really is dead :(
[18:54] <jtaylor> how is ubuntu's stand on the openssl issue actually?
[18:54] <jtaylor> is it considered a system library?
[19:00] <Laney> what's a system library?
[19:00] <Laney> both it and gnutls26 are in main
[19:01] <jtaylor> you can consider openssl a system library which avoids the license issue
[19:01] <jtaylor> gpl has some exception for those
[19:02] <jtaylor> debian does not consider openssl a system library so you need an explicit exception
[19:03] <jtaylor> http://lintian.debian.org/tags/possible-gpl-code-linked-with-openssl.html
[19:03] <jtaylor> http://people.gnome.org/~markmc/openssl-and-the-gpl
[19:05] <dupondje> port the ssl patch to GnuTLS then :)
[19:06] <dupondje> its not so hard
[19:06] <jtaylor> if you can update the patch to tls and .21 that would be great
[19:06] <jtaylor> it should then also be published on the eggdrop site
[19:07] <jtaylor> and brought to debian
[19:07] <dupondje> the patch is around ~20 lines of real code
[19:07] <dupondje> not much :)
[19:39]  * tumbleweed wonders if weechat really needs 5 daily build PPAs https://code.launchpad.net/~weechat-devs/weechat/trunk/+recipes
[19:40] <jtaylor> lol
[19:41] <tumbleweed> they appear to all be using different versioning schemes. across several different upstream versions
[21:02] <dupondje> Could somebody review https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/remmina/+bug/937522 for me? Its been open some time now :)
[21:04] <Laney> dupondje: Surely upstream are the best people to review that
[21:04] <Laney> also, it is in main.
[21:05] <dupondje> Its already in upstream :)
[21:06] <Laney> please indicate that in the patch headers then
[21:07] <Laney> and send it to the Debian bug / link them to the commit
[21:08] <Laney> I can't help you any more than that as it is in main, but having the sponsors know it's already upstream should help.
[21:08] <ajmitch> ah, mondays
[21:08] <Laney> the best day
[21:08] <Laney> a whole new week ahead of you
[21:08] <dupondje> :)
[21:08] <dupondje> thx
[21:09] <ajmitch> Laney: when are you applying for core dev anyway?
[21:09] <Laney> soon
[21:09] <ajmitch> not soon enough!
[21:09] <Laney> i started an application ^o)
[21:09] <ajmitch> \o/
[21:10] <Laney> also, I just bzr branched ubuntu:libvirt and it was over 600 meg :O
[21:10]  * ajmitch can't really write an endorsement
[21:10] <ajmitch> 600MB? how?
[21:10] <Laney> hax
[21:10] <micahg> Laney: make something I can sponsor tomorrow :)
[21:10] <Laney> dunno who to ask for an endorsement; the problem with using the queue really
[21:10] <ajmitch> about the only thing I've sponsored for Laney would have been mono once :)
[21:11]  * ajmitch is finally feeling less dead after the ubuflu, time to start on work items this week
[21:11] <Laney> micahg: maybe a libvirt depending on how that pans out ...
[21:12] <ajmitch> 600MB of pain there
[21:12] <Laney> yeah i'll do a debdiff
[21:12] <Laney> only using bzr to make the merging easier
[21:12] <ajmitch> need shallow checkout
[21:12] <Laney> if only we had a mom to look after us
[21:13] <Laney> 545 conflicts encountered.
[21:13] <Laney> no thanks
[21:13] <ajmitch> ouch
[21:13] <ajmitch> trying to merge in a new upstream version for some reason?
[21:13] <Laney> my end goal is gnome-boxes
[21:13] <ajmitch> ah right
[21:14]  * ajmitch was wondering why you'd touch libvirt, usually the server team cares for that
[21:14] <Laney> perhaps jbicha has looked into this ¬_¬
[21:14] <dupondje> I would like to do some merges, but since the MoM is down, I lost overview
[21:15] <ajmitch> dupondje: what are you needing?
[21:16] <dupondje> MoM overview :)
[21:16] <ajmitch> we should have the list of packages that need merged, but probably not the last uploader & generated diff
[21:17] <Laney> I thought http://qa.ubuntuwire.org/~lucas/merges.html was a URL
[21:17] <dupondje> thats a 404 :)
[21:17] <ajmitch> Laney: s/qa/people/
[21:17] <Laney> ah
[21:17] <ajmitch> so that does have last uploader
[21:18] <Laney> does, with horizontal scrolling
[21:18] <ajmitch> get a wider screen? :)
[21:18]  * Laney tugs at the laptop
[21:18] <ajmitch> ugh
[21:18]  * ajmitch is listed as TIL for openclipart
[21:19]  * ajmitch blames micahg for that one
[21:19] <ajmitch> I guess I really do need to buy that new hardware so I can build it :)
[21:20] <Laney> to the cloud!
[21:20] <ajmitch> Laney: it took several hours with only 4GB of RAM in my laptop
[21:21] <Laney> High-Memory Quadruple Extra Large Instance
[21:21] <Laney> 68.4 GB of memory
[21:21] <dupondje> cool good list, I think i'll enter some sync/merges tomorrow ^^
[21:21]  * ajmitch will need a mortgage
[21:21] <Laney> i wonder how much an hour on that is
[21:22] <ajmitch> more than I want to pay?
[21:22] <Laney> $1.800 per Hour
[21:22] <Laney> not so bad!
[21:22]  * ajmitch will let Laney do all the haskell-* packages
[21:26] <lifeless> Laney: go for a x8.large; 32 core no VM :)
[21:31] <micahg> Laney: openclipart took 9 hours for me to build with 8 cores
[21:33] <ajmitch> micahg: so.. technically you TIL, right? :)
[21:33] <micahg> ajmitch: can't we just sync it?
[21:33] <Laney> lifeless: so hardcore I can't even find any information about it :P
[21:33] <ajmitch> micahg: it should be syncable, yes
[21:34] <Laney> syncs don't need test-building, right? ^_^
[21:34] <jbicha> the libvirt packaging seemed a bit complex to merge, ie I couldn't tell how much of the diff was important
[21:34] <micahg> ajmitch: I'll try to do the test build when I go to sleep
[21:34] <ajmitch> micahg: thanks :)
[21:34] <ajmitch> Laney: micahg will jump out & kill me if I don't test-build
[21:35] <micahg> Laney: jbicha: please talk to hallyn before merging libvirt (to see if there's any reason not to, caveats to watch for, or if he's already working on it)
[21:35] <Laney> of course
[21:35] <jbicha> I'm not touching libvirt :)
[21:37] <Laney> it is a pretty fearsome diff
[21:38] <lifeless> Laney: http://docs.amazonwebservices.com/AWSEC2/latest/UserGuide/using_cluster_computing.html#concepts_cluster_compute_hvmAMI
[21:38] <lifeless> Laney: there are Ubuntu AMIs
[22:11] <Laney> I think I might leave this merge :P
[22:13] <micahg> Laney: you can do gimp for me if you're looking for something to do :)
[22:16] <Laney> oh look, time to go to bed!
[22:16] <Laney> nn
[22:16] <micahg> heh
[22:16] <bobweaver> micahg,  what do you need done in gimp ?
[22:17] <micahg> bobweaver: oh, it's just on my list to merge tonight :)
[22:19] <bobweaver> micahg,  I am always willing to help / do grunt work :)
[22:20] <bobweaver> here is some of my gimp work
[22:20] <bobweaver> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~josephjamesmills/ubuntu-packaging-guide/fixed-bug767276/files/head:/images/
[22:22]  * bobweaver is trying to get iso image together tonight of ubuntutv .  back to vala
[22:23] <micahg> bobweaver: well, I'm expecting stuff to break in the merge
[22:23] <bobweaver> Oo