[16:17] <superm1> amejia: we dont' build arm on PPA, need to get a special PPA for that
[16:17] <superm1> btw, i started to look at that post of things to fix on the mailing list
[16:17] <superm1> but didn't get enough time to sit down and address everything in it
[16:17] <superm1> so it's pending
[20:24] <cosmic> hi @ all
[20:27] <dekarl> hi cosmic
[20:27] <cosmic> I have  a new graphic card  Nvidia GT 520, since i have build in the card  and have conected the PC via HDMI Cable i have massiv problems . 1. My  Desktop doesnt fit on the TV anymore, second sound problems with game emulators. Is anyone so kind to give me hint how to get rid of my probs !?
[20:27] <cosmic> hi dekarl
[20:29] <dekarl> hmm. That sounds like a generic, non-mythbuntu specific, issue. You'll likely have more luck in a generic ubuntu channel.  (I have no expertise in that area myself)
[20:30] <cosmic> thanks
[20:31] <cosmic> yeah it is generic, but i hoped someone felt in the same isue as i
[20:32] <dekarl> maybe. its never wrong to give it some time around here :)
[20:32] <cosmic> how are you dekarl , were are you from ? may i ask ?
[20:33] <cosmic> how do you use ur myth installation ?
[20:34] <dekarl> i'm hailing from frankfurt/germany and using mythtv as it was designed (record everything I might want to watch, then watch as I got time for it)
[20:35] <cosmic> Hey, fellow ... i was living in frankfurt for about 8 years and now i am back to the place i belong :)
[20:35] <dekarl> Kassel?
[20:36] <cosmic> is recording / watching the only aspect for you in using Myth ?
[20:36] <cosmic> Kassel/Hessen
[20:36] <dekarl> some videos/music/weather, but thats secondary
[20:36] <cosmic> i see
[20:37] <cosmic> DVB-T/-C/-S/-S2  ??
[20:38] <dekarl> C, T, shoutcast and hopefully soon http live streams (aka iPad/iPhone stations)
[20:38] <cosmic> was meinst
[20:38] <cosmic> what do you mean with Iphone station ?
[20:39] <dekarl> there are stations that put their live stream on the web as MPEG SPTS cut into segments and deliverd via http. that mode of transmission was designed by Apple for their iOS devices
[20:40] <cosmic> ok , i see
[20:40] <dekarl> basically it should be super simple to convert it back into one MPEG2 stream containing H.264 and AAC
[20:40] <cosmic> which kind of "PC" do u use as frontend ?
[20:41] <cosmic> basically, for sure ;)
[20:42] <dekarl> one of the devs has the complete downloading and merging of chunks stuff written and "it plays", he's looking into wrapping it into a recorder (which would be cool for e.g. Nasa TV) it "just" needs some infrastucture to collect station urls
[20:43] <dekarl> I use the backend (i3 or i5, don't know with a discrete nvidia card) or a netboot ION2
[20:44] <dekarl> I had someone select "stuff that works with Linux/MythTV" for me. In return I'm looking after the software parts
[20:46] <cosmic> backend/frontend  is the same "PC" ?
[20:46] <dekarl> yes, one combined frontend/backend and a second (silent) remote boot frontend
[20:47] <dekarl> what EPG source are you using?
[20:48] <cosmic> ONLY EPG
[20:48] <cosmic> I have to use DVB-S2 here in Kassel
[20:48] <cosmic> that sucks
[20:48] <cosmic> i used DVB-T in FFM it was awesome
[20:49] <dekarl> But you get lots of channels via DVB-S2 (and the compression on DVB-T stinks)
[20:50] <dekarl> if you are watching our public channels you can get some guide data at http://xmltv.spaetfruehstuecken.org/xmltv/ I'm working on it on and off as I got time.
[20:50] <Zinn> [xmltv.spaetfruehstuecken.org] Egon zappt - Das Programmheft fÃ¼r den Videorecorder von heute
[20:50] <dekarl> got to leave, see you around
[20:52] <cosmic> see ya, thank you for chatting, have a nice day
[23:17] <Twiggy2cents> When I boot my backend, I have mythfrontend.real--syslog local7  running and also mythfrontend --service.  This is headless, and I am pretty sure they arent set to start at boot.  Anyway, why is there two and what is the difference?
[23:19] <tgm4883> Twiggy2cents, mythfrontend --service is the start script. mythfrontend.real is the actual mythfrontend binary
[23:19] <tgm4883> you shouldn't need the frontend on a backend system
[23:20] <Twiggy2cents> I am pretty sure when I upgraded the distro I chose backend only
[23:20] <tgm4883> Twiggy2cents, can always apt-get remove it
[23:21] <Twiggy2cents> Is there a way to just remove that?  It wants to remove mythtv as a whole
[23:21] <tgm4883> apt-get remove mythtv-frontend
[23:21] <Twiggy2cents> Also on another note.  My mythweb is really screwed up now.  I mentioned it in the users chan
[23:22] <Twiggy2cents> tgm4883, that removes mythtv as a dependency
[23:22] <tgm4883> Twiggy2cents, just the mythtv package right?
[23:23] <Twiggy2cents> mythgallery mythmusic mythtv mythtv-frontend
[23:23] <tgm4883> yea those should be fine
[23:23] <tgm4883> it's not removing the backend
[23:23] <Twiggy2cents> So is the mythtv package basically the list of what you need for mythtv or something?
[23:23] <tgm4883> and the mythtv package should just be a metapackage
[23:24] <tgm4883> it's installed if you said you want a BE/FE machine
[23:25] <Twiggy2cents> Heh after removal those entries still show up in ps.  Should I just kill them and next time they wont be there?
[23:25] <tgm4883> yea
[23:25] <haux> I'm not really sure what MythTV is, but is mythbuntu an idea os for... a media computer mostly used for watching videos on a TV?
[23:25] <haux> *ideal
[23:25] <tgm4883> haux, do you have a tv tuner?
[23:26] <haux> I do not. But I don't have cable/satellite either, so I wouldn't be using it as a DVR or anything like that.
[23:26] <tgm4883> probably not the best solution for you then
[23:26] <tgm4883> you will want something like XBMC
[23:27] <Twiggy2cents> Okay, I have to go in a sec but since you are here....  Do you have any clue where to start troubleshooting mythweb when the only thing it loads is the main page, settings, videos, and listings.  Nothing else loads.  Not even the status page which if I understand correctly isnt even actually mythweb but is a redirect to the status page port
[23:27] <haux> So I could pretty much just install xubuntu, and then install xbmc to handle all of the media watching?
[23:28] <tgm4883> haux, yes
[23:28] <tgm4883> Twiggy2cents, Anything in the mythweb logs?
[23:28] <haux> I'll give that a try, thanks
[23:28] <tgm4883> or apache logs
[23:29] <Twiggy2cents> where is the mythweb log
[23:29] <tgm4883> Twiggy2cents, also, I wasn't able to get the status page to load when I had a missing tuner (backend couldn't connect to it). Check the backend logs for any errors
[23:30] <tgm4883> Twiggy2cents, the mythweb log is just in the apache logs
[23:30] <tgm4883> /var/log/apache2/
[23:30] <Twiggy2cents> gotcha
[23:30] <tgm4883> so access.log and error.log
[23:31] <Twiggy2cents> Okay let me check that, also I just saw this Expire autoexpire.cpp:161 (CalcParams) AutoExpire: Filesystem Info cache is empty, unable to calculate necessary parameters.   any idea on that
[23:34] <Twiggy2cents> I think this computers usb bus is dying.  I have 3 usb tuners and theyo have issues on reboot or removal/reinsertion.  I have to start the computer with them unplugged then plug them in.  That is why I upgraded anyway.  At least I know it is my computer I guess
[23:38] <Twiggy2cents> tgm4883, that was it..  I guess I need to get ahold of another computer.
[23:38] <Twiggy2cents> Thanks!