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ellischip8874, that's strange. Your best bet is reading into MSI-X. It's pretty low level stuff, my guess is that the kernel either doesn't support your GPU, or the necessary modules aren't loaded00:01
DoctorMonocularhey everyone, having a good saturday?00:02
chip8874so should I use an older version of ubuntu or fedora? I have no clue what msi-x is but I will attempt to educate myself00:02
ellischip8874, have you had other operating systems working on the computer, like Windows?00:03
chip8874no. I assembled it today00:03
chip8874and I don't really want to download windows, tbh00:03
ellischip8874, It could be a hardware fault then with the GPU. It's hard to say00:03
DoctorMonocularI've been pulling my hair out today trying to troubleshoot my ruby / rails and related software, it's acting up00:04
Conradzzshould I use synaptic or ubunut software center?00:04
DoctorMonocularthe first thing I want to do is remove rvm from my system entirely00:04
DoctorMonocularbut I can't seem to do that00:04
L3topchip8874: I am beginning to wonder if your gpu is sound. Is this on-board?00:04
ellischip8874, without trying a non-Linux-kernel operating system, you can't rule out the possibility that the hardware isn't faulty00:04
DoctorMonocularruby-rvm shows as an installed package, and removing it gets a message about it not being installed00:05
chip8874L3top: I don't think my motherboard has onboard graphics. There are no kinds of visual ports on the mobo. It's an xfx radeon hd 679000:05
chip8874ellis:00:05
chip8874ellis: Right. Are there any ways of testing this?00:06
L3topshows as installed where DoctorMonocular00:06
ellischip8874, I would bet money that your computer would boot into a non-graphical OS fine. Download Arch Linux and boot that00:06
sun_devilAnybody know the command line phrase to kill or stop bluetooth.  I did a service bluetooth stop, which did not work00:06
ellischip8874, If it boots Arch Linux fine, then it's definitely a graphics problem (hardware or software)00:06
chip8874ellis: I will try this and see what happens00:07
L3topYou can boot ubuntu headless and do the same thing00:07
chip8874L3top: ok how do you do that?00:07
ellischip8874, yes go with L3top suggestion00:07
DoctorMonocular@L3top, I take it back now, it's not showing anymore when I write dpkg -l | grep rvm00:08
L3topchip8874: you can grab a minimal iso and only install what you need, and test graphics from there... but... you have been here a minute, is this a problem with install or live boot?00:08
DoctorMonocularhowever, when I search00:08
DoctorMonocularthere are LOTS of rvm files in the system00:08
DoctorMonocularconfig files and sutff that I suspect is messing me up down the line00:08
DoctorMonocularwrong paths, that sort of thing00:08
DoctorMonocularI gather the correct way to install it for now is with curl, not apt-get00:09
L3topDoctorMonocular: apt-get remove --purge ruby-rvm00:09
L3topDoctorMonocular: when you simply remove, it gets rid of some things but keeps config files etc00:09
chip8874L3top: they both behave the same way. I can pick the run option or the install option and they behave the same way. An attempt at a fedora install gave the same visuals before crashing00:09
DoctorMonocular@L3top, when I run that command it works, but it says 0 ugraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove, and 11 not upgraded00:10
DoctorMonocularso it apparently changed nothing00:10
chip8874L3top: And, Im sorry, but how do I get a minimal iso00:10
L3top!nomodeset | chip887400:10
ubottuchip8874: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter00:10
crash1hdHey all is there an easy way to allow access to / on a live cd using samba without asking for a username / password as on my windows end it wants to enter a username / password with domain yet I am not on a domain?00:10
wilee-nilee!minimal00:10
ubottuThe Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD00:10
L3topDoctorMonocular: there was nothing to uninstall, but check for those config files now00:10
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ellischip8874, Download minimal CD from here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD00:11
DoctorMonocularL3top, I'm still seeing dozens of directories and files scattered everywhere, and I haven't even tried to look inside files for the string rvm yet00:11
L3topDoctorMonocular: you might consider installing it, then purging it.00:12
DoctorMonocularL3top, I had though of just deleting the files, but I can't seem to -- lemme try it from the terminal with sudo00:13
m1jjlinux is the new windows and freebsd is the new linux00:13
L3topDoctorMonocular: dpkg -S ruby-rvs00:13
nickgawHi, I am trying to find the download link for the package that allows you to make a custom live ubuntu CD but the page all it talks about is the program not where to download it?00:13
DoctorMonocularL3top, no path matching pattern *ruby-rvm*00:14
ellismljj: laptop are the new desktop and netbooks are the new laptops00:14
chip8874ubottu: I do not get to that purple screen00:14
ubottuchip8874: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)00:14
baddhabitno... no no.. still not working... tired of this.. reinstalling.. i give up.. sigh00:14
chip8874oops noob mistake00:14
L3topnickgaw: you are probably talking about remastersys... yes?00:14
nickgawcorrect that is the program where no download link I can find00:15
L3topDoctorMonocular: I do not know if dpkg -S works with globs... try ruby-rvm with both -S and -L00:16
L3topyou will have to add the repo based on your distro nickgaw00:17
L3topwhat version are you on nickgaw00:17
nickgawI have both a debian and ubuntu 12.04 install where on the page can I find the list of repos?00:17
indianany one using hotot00:18
L3topnickgaw: http://www.remastersys.com/ubuntu.html  look for Where can I get00:18
nickgawok00:19
szymon_ghi00:20
szymon_ghow can i turn off the graphic boot in newest ubuntu? i've deleted "quiet splash" options in that new grub list, but its still hangs00:22
szymon_gi would like to either boot in text mode, or in working graphical mode (even with low resolution etc)- so i'll be able to install proper drivers00:22
DoctorMonocularL3top, ok going through the terminal to delete all the rvm files and folders worked, so now I want to search for all the files on my system that have the text rvm in them (specifically looking for config files that contain the old path information) -- what's the best way?00:23
L3topsudo grep -r rvm /*             but its gonna take a while, and find a lot.00:23
DoctorMonocularL3top, ok -- I can do that, but meanwhile, any ideaas on which config files might contain that path info I'm trying to purge?00:24
sun_devilI guess to remove bluetooth you also have to remove its dependencies?00:24
jgalthow can I get my marvell 802.11 pci card working.  the installer did not find it but lspci lists it.00:25
L3topwell thats an odd grouping of chars... it might not find THAT much... but more than I ever expect... Not really DoctorMonocular... like I said, I would have installed it again and done a purge... would have at least gotten a lot closer.00:25
jgaltit's a marvel 88w8335 based card.00:26
herpI want espeak to sound like os x say command00:26
herphow can i do this00:27
alexhairymanis there a command to force quit a window in 12.04?00:30
herphow can i change the espeak voice?00:30
L3topalexhairyman: alt f4? right click on taskbar and quit... or drop to a termnial and get mean.00:31
* L3top is using kubu... loses track of chats00:32
alexhairymanIs that universal? I kept looking through my path for xquit or xforce, or something similar, but it was actually xquit00:32
nickgawIs there an easy way on ubuntu 12.04 to install the real gnome classic setup as I am totally blind and find the new setup tricky to use with orca?00:34
LordOfTimenickgaw:  apt-get install gnome-classic?00:34
LordOfTime!notunity | nickgaw00:35
ubottunickgaw: Ubuntu 11.10 uses GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic00:35
LordOfTime!classic | nickgaw00:35
ubottunickgaw: The default interface in Ubuntu 11.04 is !Unity. To switch back to regular !GNOME: log out, click your username, click the Session box at the bottom of the screen, and select "Ubuntu Classic". For 11.10, see !notunity00:35
zykotick9nickgaw: gome-panel gives a very gnome2 like environment00:35
sun_devilIs there a way to block bluetooth?  I do a chkconfig and can't rid it of my machine00:35
DoctorMonocularL3top, you weren't kidding, grep has just been sitting there 8/00:36
nickgawso the normal gnome-classic is in ubuntu 12.04 as reading on line I read that that package did not provide that desktop?00:36
DoctorMonocularbut I think I can't move on without making sure the paths aren't just sitting there waiting to mess things up00:36
L3topIt is literally searching text against every readable character in every file on your computer. It will filter through your movies looking for it. Gonna take a while.00:38
DoctorMonocularthis is a fresh install on an SSD, so hopefully it won't take TOO much longer00:38
* L3top hearts ruby btw00:38
L3topwont00:38
DoctorMonocularyeah I love it... when I can get it to work, haha00:38
DoctorMonocularthe problem is that I'm pretty green with linux so I'm fighting with that instead of writing code00:39
DoctorMonocularI've been mostly a .NET guy for like 10 years00:39
DoctorMonocularso it's a switch00:39
m1jjwhat is linux all about? freedom? i think it could be a technology that enslaves us all.00:43
DoctorMonocularI'll have what m1jj is having, whatever it is00:44
DoctorMonocularmaaaan00:44
DoctorMonocular8)00:44
gccsterguys ive installed ubuntu 12.04 nvidia drivers+bumblebee how can i enable touchpad vertical scroll?00:44
T_A_N_Kmy pc pooped00:46
OerHeksgccster, there is a #bumblebee irc channel here on #freenode. those guys are up2date00:46
gccsterOerHeks, im not sure its a bumbleebee problem00:46
sun_devilHaving a problem installing telnet00:48
szymon_gsun_devil: why would you like to use it?00:49
szymon_gand what's the problem?00:49
sun_devilSometimes cant access ssh00:50
remlabmso, cool trick. I decided i wanted to rotate a monitor clockwise. Did somethings, rebooted and now when unity is loaded i get a broken screen and unresponsive mouse. Any ideas?00:51
DoctorMonocularare there any nice alternative terminal programs? I'd like to be able to do things I can do in any text editor00:54
DoctorMonocularlike CTRL+V00:54
DoctorMonocularor CTRL+arrow key00:54
DoctorMonocularstuff like that00:54
remlabmor, does anyone know how i can remove unity display settings so i atleast can get back to GUI?00:54
veinosIs there something I need to do so ubuntu uses full wireless N capability? I'm stuck at 4meg/sec transfering on my network rather than the full 8meg I usually get01:03
szymon_gi wish i could use even 4 mb, so do not complain ;)01:04
veinoswell, 8 is twice better, believe me01:05
GeekSquid1DoctorMonocular: Ctrl-shift-V is the trick01:07
DoctorMonocularGeekSquid1, thanks for that, I didn't know01:12
DoctorMonocularbut alas, I think suicide maybe the answer (joke) -- after all that, reinstalling everything and having it appear to work01:13
DoctorMonocularI opened a second terminal window01:13
DoctorMonocularand just tried to run the console01:13
DoctorMonocularand it doesn't know where to find ruby01:13
DoctorMonocularthe first terminal does though, which tells me... something -- I know it's a config somewhere, but I'm lost on what I actually need to change01:14
dzupi dont like unity01:14
muni see that libpng 1.2.46-3ubuntu1.3 was released as an update, but does that mean the version in the current PPA is also that version?01:14
dzupi need to uninstall unity, how?01:14
L3top!nounity | dzup01:15
ubottudzup: Ubuntu 11.10 uses GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic01:15
DoctorMonocularL3top, any idea why one terminal would work while another terminal window doesn't work?01:15
L3topCan you expoind01:15
L3topexpound*01:15
dzupL3top: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS \n \l here.01:15
DoctorMonocularsee above -- I reinstalled everything, so I have rvm running ruby 1.9.301:16
DoctorMonocularrails works01:16
DoctorMonocularit's running my app01:16
DoctorMonocularI can get the console01:16
DoctorMonoculareverything01:16
FloodBot1DoctorMonocular: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.01:16
DoctorMonocularbut only in the terminal window that I did all the work in01:16
DoctorMonocularif I try a separate termnal window, it can't find ruby at all01:16
L3topsame applies dzup. Factoid hasnt been updated01:16
L3top!enter DoctorMonocular01:16
L3top!enter | DoctorMonocular01:16
ubottuDoctorMonocular: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!01:16
floogyHi, what's the name of the mint channel?01:16
floogyI got problems to boot from my pendrivve into mint 1301:17
veinosi would guess linuxmint01:17
L3top!mint01:17
ubottuLinux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org01:17
floogyveinos thanks, I'll try that01:18
dzupL3top: here we go again, tk01:18
DoctorMonocularL3top, what did that mean? !enter etc?01:18
veinosubottu got you covered :)01:18
ubottuveinos: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)01:18
munhow come launchpad says libpng 1.2.46-3ubuntu1.3 is available for both amd64 and i386, but my amd64 synaptic says only 1.2.46-3ubuntu1 is the latest?01:19
L3topJust try to keep responses to a single line if possible... when it is busy it makes it a pain to backscroll several pages for a single users request... it is just because of the size of the channel01:19
DoctorMonocularahh, I see -- sorry about that01:19
floogyI startzed a ubuntu live-cd. oneiric, how to add irc.spotchat.org to empathy (I'm more used to xchat...)01:19
DoctorMonocularI get it now, you were giving the bot a command -- I didn't realize it was a bot until a ew lines down 8)01:19
L3topDoctorMonocular: I am not sure to be honest. I would assume that your evnironment variables were somehow defined in one and not the other01:20
lucianweird: when rhythmbox is on, if i type head anywhere, i hear a loud beep in my headphones01:22
DoctorMonocularyeah, that somehow is what I need to know about -- where are those settings stored?01:22
floogyAh, I found accounts...01:23
L3topDoctorMonocular: env01:23
DoctorMonocularL#top, is that a folder somewhere or?01:25
L3topThat will tell you your environment variables... my hack would be to env > rubyterm       and env > normterm    in the same directory in both  terminals, then diff rubyterm normterm01:25
L3topthat will at least tell you if you are barking up the right tree01:25
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L3topthey are not stored as such, they are defined... however you can force their definition IF indeed there is a disparity01:27
DoctorMonocularare those all commands I can actually run? env > normterm outputs to a file called normterm?01:27
L3topcorrect01:27
DoctorMonocularok, yay linux (powerful and awesome in many ways... not so discoverable)01:27
AurigaDoctorMonocular, Not so discoverable?01:29
DoctorMonocularAuriga, "discoverable" is a term we use in user interface design01:29
DoctorMonocularit's a measure of how well a new user who is not familiar with the system can "discover" how to use it just by poking it or looking at it01:29
AurigaDoctorMonocular, I hear you, I thought you meant just generally...01:30
AurigaDoctorMonocular, I was really just picking up half a conversation...01:30
DoctorMonocularI'm sure they are easy to look up and even examine if you have a certain level of knowledge, but it's that terrible, murky beginning that's rough 8)01:30
DoctorMonocularok l3top, there is definitely a difference between the envs01:31
DoctorMonocularbut what do I do about it?01:31
L3topDoctorMonocular: > is a redirect. >> is a redirect append. you can redirect standard out, error out, standard in to anything. you can also do the reverse < and redirect  in.  You should hang out in #bash  to learn a lot about the power of this fully operational battle station...01:32
L3topDoctorMonocular: can you please pastebin that diff?01:32
L3top!pastebin | DoctorMonocular01:32
ubottuDoctorMonocular: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.01:32
DoctorMonocularL3top, yeah the system is clearly very powerful, how you can chain input and output and run the scripts from anywhere01:33
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AurigaDoctorMonocular, Windows could be indepth too, it just depends upon how much you wish to learn.01:34
DoctorMonocularhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/996686/01:34
DoctorMonocularbtw, I'm proud of myself for putting 2 and 2 together and >'ing to diffterm to paste that 8)01:34
* L3top really enjoys people learning to USE linux rather than just asking for blind cut and paste commands01:35
oneseventeenso I removed myself from the sudoers file accidentally, and I'm the only user account.01:36
oneseventeenthoughts?01:37
newbchessplayeris there a way to display useful information in a screensaver such as time and weather?01:37
DoctorMonocularL#top, I'm definitely in that camp -- when I go looking for help (which is often), I'm frustrated when someone provides an esoteric command with no explanation01:37
wolfcorenewbchessplayer: conky01:37
newbchessplayerconky is a screensaver?01:38
L3top!conky01:38
L3topdoh.01:38
wolfcorenewbchessplayer: it can be overlayed on top01:38
newbchessplayerand bounce around?01:38
L3topI am not aware of conky being a ss... but that is cool01:38
wolfcorenewbchessplayer: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=3990601:39
wolfcoreit's NOT a screensaver, but you can have transparency so that it is on top but the screensaver is visible01:39
newbchessplayerthat  kind of defeats one of the primary purposes of a screensaver01:40
newbchessplayerthanks01:40
wolfcoreugh01:40
tynachHello. I'm wanting to make a custom launcher on my desktop for Minecraft, but I don't know how to do it in Unity in Ubuntu 12.04. Anyone know how? I don't feel like (but can if I must) creating a .desktop file from scratch by hand.01:41
L3topno it doesnt01:41
L3topthe screen saver is still running, it is still changing pixles... there is a composit overlay, which changes based on the movement behind it01:41
L3topit is no different than bubbles over your DT... ty wolfcore.01:42
newbchessplayerL3top, yes but dont certain pixels always stay lit?01:42
wolfcorenewbchessplayer: stay lit?01:42
L3topnewbchessplayer: they change color based on the background01:42
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newbchessplayerah01:42
L3topthere is no burn in01:42
wolfcoreit's called transparency for a reason01:42
wolfcoreits _transparent_01:42
trismtynach: if you have gnome-panel installed you can: gnome-desktop-item-edit /path/to/launcher.desktop; then drag that to the launcher01:43
tynachtrism, I don't have gnome-panel installed. I don't really want to have Gnome 3 installed any more than I have to to let Unity work.01:44
L3topsorry ok DoctorMonocular, clearly something you did set those paths. Those paths will need to be set each time you want to do what you are doing... those need to either  be defined at startup, which means they will only work on your machine, or defined in the code, or a primer. This is not my area but easily googled if nobody pipes up.01:44
trismtynach: then you are probably editing the desktop by hand01:44
wolfcoreL3top: what problem does DoctorMonocular have?01:44
L3tophe did something which set env vars which make his ruby code work in a term, but a new term these vars are not set01:45
L3tophere is a diff http://paste.ubuntu.com/996686/01:45
tynachtrism, why can't Unity/Gnome 3 have what KDE and even previous Gnomes had? Right-click a panel or desktop, click "Create launcher", and type in the path to the executable, the name, and change the icon in a nice GUI window?01:45
L3topthat is an env diff wolfcore01:45
wolfcoreL3top: all he has to do is stick that new defined path in ~/.bash_profile01:46
L3topbut then wont the code ONLY work on his box wolfcore?01:46
tynachMeh, I'll install gnome-panel.01:46
newbchessplayerL3top, how do you make it transparent to the screensaver but "always behind" any windows while you're actually on the computer?01:47
wolfcoreL3top: so does he want this to work elsewhere?01:47
wolfcorenewbchessplayer: google it01:47
L3topI don't know to be honest wolfcore... I just assumed.01:47
wolfcoreL3top: PATH aren't made to work universally...01:48
wolfcores/PATH aren't/the PATH variable isn't01:48
L3topTrue...01:48
DoctorMonocularL3top, the code should work independently assuming ruby and rails et al is installed and runable on the given machine01:48
aendrukI've heard rumors of problems with Ubuntu's repositories being slow and causing trouble with the installation process over the last day or so. Anyone know more about it?01:48
DoctorMonocularok, so what I need to do is go into my .bash_profile01:49
L3topDoctorMonocular: check with #ruby at this point.01:49
DoctorMonocularand add what exactly? there are lots of changes in that diff01:49
tynachtrism, oh! That command does open up a little GUI window :D Though I still have to type in the command. Ah well, this is good for now.01:50
tynachThanks!01:50
wolfcoreDoctorMonocular: figure out what PATH, etc you want and export them in .bash_profile01:50
DoctorMonocularis it a problem if that bash_profile file doesn't exist right now?01:50
DoctorMonocular~/.bash_profile didn't exist before I just created it01:50
sirdeiutynach: you could also  just copy and modify a .desktop entry file from /usr/share/applications,  where they are kept.01:51
L3topwolfcore: .bash_profile or .bashrc?01:53
tynachsirdeiu, that's what I did originally. But they all have a lot of Gnome-specific things in the .desktop file that I didn't know what to do with, and I didn't want any of that in mine.01:53
wolfcoreL3top: PATH goes in .bash_profile, only needs to be sourced on user login01:53
L3topty wolfcore01:53
wolfcoreDoctorMonocular: that's fine01:53
L3topWe are all learning DoctorMonocular :)01:54
sirdeiutynach: depending on what you want your launcher to do, you'll need more or less some entries. Type, Name, Exec, Path, Icon are the basic needed one(s).01:55
Guest54242My canonical download speed used to be over 2mbps, but in the last day or so it seems to be capped at 15kbs. Anyone have any advice for fixing this? (Other networks still work just as fast as they used to, just canonical is slow).01:55
tynachsirdeiu, I gathered, but what about things like... *checks* "X-GNOME-Bugzilla-Component=general"01:56
veinosyah me too guest!01:56
veinosgrossly slow speed :O01:56
Guest54242veinos, I wonder if it is a global problem :-/01:56
RupertPupkinIs it that slow even over Torrent?01:56
sirdeiutynach: you don't need that to launch Minecraft :)01:56
veinosit felt faster just about 20min ago, but not sure, I just let it run in background01:57
veinosanyway, got to go, gl01:57
tynachsirdeiu, I know, but there's like... 20 different lines like that, and there are several that contain 'gedit' as the value, making me unsure which one's actually the one to edit for launching. Basically, I like to have a new one created so I know everything I need is in there, and not more. I need to learn to write them by hand.01:58
Guest54242RupertPupkin: update manage stuff is over torrent? I haven't used any torrents since the install other than what might happen with the default software. But all connected that are "canonical.com" based are avgeraging 15kbs only. It says it is http, so my guess is that is not torrent? Any advice for trying to improve the canonical connection speed?01:59
sirdeiutynach: like I said, Type, Name, Icon, Exec, Path are what you need.01:59
RupertPupkinGuest54242, Sorry, I thought you meant trying to download the .iso file.  Canonical's mirrors occasionally become very slow for me too.01:59
DoctorMonocularok wolfcore, I'm having some trouble here -- I'm looking at the diff, and trying to figure out what my bash_profile file should look like -- can you tell me about the syntax I need to use to get it working? and do I need to include all the information that was missing in the non working terminal? Things like GEM_HOME, pvm_path, PATH, GEM_PATH?02:00
tynachsirdeiu, what about the fact that the generated one from that command, does not have a 'path' in it?02:00
sirdeiutynach: of those Exec=/path/to/minecraft/launch, path=/path/to/minecraft, Icon=/path/to/minecraft.png or copy minecraft.png to ~/.icons and specify Icon=minecraft.png only and Name=Minecraft02:00
L3topGuest54242: there have been a lot of complaints about this. I do not experience it because I use mirrors.02:00
sirdeiutynach: what command ?02:01
Guest54242L3top, please explain or provide a link so I can either set it up as well or at least read about how it works?02:01
tynachThe one trism provided.02:01
tynachgnome-desktop-item-edit02:01
wolfcoreDoctorMonocular: should look like so (an example): 'export PATH=$PATH:$HOME/bin'02:02
sirdeiutynach: see here http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/  .desktop entry specification and http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/apa.html02:02
sirdeiuexample file02:02
wolfcoreDoctorMonocular: not sure if you have to export all of the other variables, you can either do that, or add them one by one and see if they're needed02:02
L3topGuest54242: its a bit brilliant... and works globally. deb mirror://mirrors.ubuntu.com/mirrors.txt  $DISTRO main restricted universe multiverse for instance...02:02
stalh02:02
L3topGuest54242: I will find a link02:02
wolfcoreDoctorMonocular: you probable do need these other vars too though02:02
Guest54242l3top, thanks!02:03
DoctorMonocularok wolfcore, will try to add them with the syntax you mentioned then paste it in before I move on02:03
tynachsirdeiu, why is it that in mine, it duplicates some lines like: "Name[en_US]=Minecraft", and one without the [en_US]? Can I safely delete the duplicates?02:03
T_A_N_Kwindows rulez02:04
sirdeiutynach: yes, Name[en_US] or Name[de_DE] are just localized to different languages.02:04
sirdeiutynach:  you can use only Name=02:04
sirdeiutynach: that is if you are using English as your language.02:05
tynachsirdeiu, I am. Deleted the [en_US] ones.02:05
wolfcoretynach: the others are locale-specific, iirc02:05
DoctorMonocularhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/996707/02:06
DoctorMonocularwhat do you think of that for the content of the file?02:06
wolfcoreDoctorMonocular: you only need to export once02:06
wolfcoreDoctorMonocular: you are overwriting the previous variable02:06
DoctorMonocularso, at the top, maybe on its own line?02:06
DoctorMonocularalso, I'm confused because PATH is listed twice and like you said, overwrites the previous value02:07
wolfcoreDoctorMonocular: you need export PATH=$PATH:<your custom path/s>02:07
DoctorMonocularnot even considering what it was before the file ran02:07
DoctorMonocularwould it hurt anything to have the same path listed twice in that variable?02:08
wolfcoreDoctorMonocular: you need to define PATH to be PATH plus your own extra paths02:08
lfitzhi, how would i establish connectivity between two laptops via a crossover cable?02:08
wolfcoreDoctorMonocular: so export PATH=$PATH:$HOME/.rvm/gems/:/another/path02:09
DoctorMonocularyup, I get it02:09
DoctorMonocularhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/996711/02:09
wolfcoreDoctorMonocular: you can replace /home/pete with $HOME02:10
wolfcoreDoctorMonocular: anyways, now you can source the file with `. ~/.bash_profile`02:10
DoctorMonocularhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/996714/  - look legit now?02:11
sirdeiutynach: here's an interesting one: http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/04/add-application-shortcuts-to-your-desktop-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/02:12
wolfcoreDoctorMonocular: directories such as /usr/local/sbin should be part of your path by default. Check if they are with `echo $PATH`. The directories listed can be removed because they are already part of the PATH02:13
DoctorMonocularyeah, I figured that was why the variable was defined with a prepended $PATH:02:15
wolfcoreyes02:15
DoctorMonocularand that's why I was asking if defining the path twice would hurt anything02:15
DoctorMonocularbut I'll remove it in the file02:15
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mjbrooksI hate it when the installer grabs updates at a trickle :(02:16
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tynachsirdeiu, that's actually how I messed with gedit's originally. I already knew about that. But I wanted a custom one for Minecraft.02:18
tynachAnyway, playing Minecraft now. See 'yall.02:18
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DoctorMonocularok wolfcore, I saved it, I sourced it - do I need to restart my terminal or anything?02:19
krnlhi i updated ubuntu to 12.04 and it cant find hosts, but resolv.conf is set properly. do you have any idea?02:19
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DoctorMonocularok, I opened a new terminal window02:20
DoctorMonocularwhich I think should've gotten the new stuff? And none of the stuff from that file are in env02:21
mjbrooksanyone know if the US ubuntu server is under load? My install updates are measured in B/s :(02:23
wolfcoreDoctorMonocular: after sourcing, the new PATH should work in that term02:23
wolfcoreDoctorMonocular: log out and log back in02:24
elknggnome is native GUI for ubuntu ?02:24
wolfcoreelkng: you mean DE?02:24
DoctorMonocularok, so when I source in the new window it loads the stuff02:25
flowerpotelkng, I don't think there is a "native" GUI for Ubuntu, but Gnome is the default02:25
elkngyes02:25
DoctorMonocularso I';m guessing thsat if I log out and back in02:25
flowerpotthere are other versions out there02:25
wolfcoreDoctorMonocular: yes, because opening a new window doesn't source you bash_profile02:25
elknginitially the first DE for ubuntu was gnome ?02:25
DoctorMonocularit'll work withgout me manually sourcing it everytime. But it's still not quite working02:25
DoctorMonocularthe env is set with the new vars02:25
flowerpotmjbrooks, I noticed that last night, too, not sure02:25
DoctorMonocularand when I do ruby -v it's finding the correct one02:25
DoctorMonocularbut rails fails02:25
wolfcore:(02:26
DoctorMonocular(sorry, splitting my lines up again, old habits)02:26
mjbrooksflowerpot: thanks, I was just wondering if it was just me ;)02:26
DoctorMonocularpete@pete-MS-7522:~/tguard$ ruby -v02:26
DoctorMonocularruby 1.9.3p194 (2012-04-20 revision 35410) [x86_64-linux]02:26
DoctorMonocularpete@pete-MS-7522:~/tguard$ rails c02:26
DoctorMonocularbash: /usr/local/bin/rails: /usr/bin/ruby1.8: bad interpreter: No such file or directory02:26
DoctorMonocularer, sorry about that, though that would be one line02:26
* mjbrooks loads his dopeslapper02:27
DoctorMonocularit seems like it';s still looking for ruby1.8 even though that's not installed at all, and certainly not under rvm02:27
L3topThat looks like your code is making the call not the environment... to me... DoctorMonocular.02:28
wolfcoreDoctorMonocular: is there a space in your PATH by accident?02:28
wolfcoreDoctorMonocular: between rails: /usr02:29
wolfcoreit seems like bash thinks that those two are one path, because there is a space and so the colon isn't used as a separator, but as part of the path02:29
DoctorMonocularthat's a good point, but it's not in the bash_profile file, it must be getting that somewhere else -- where would it get that path from?02:31
phaedrus44hey all!02:32
wolfcoreDoctorMonocular: so neither of the directories from that error exist?02:32
flowerpotDoctorMonocular, no basis for this, but maybe something updated /etc/environment?02:32
wilberarchJust upgraded to 12.04.  USB mouse & keyboard not being recognized...02:32
wilberarchDr. Google hasn't found any solutions yet...02:32
wilberarch:-[02:32
wolfcorewilberarch: tried rebooting?02:32
wilberarchwolfcore, about 8 times, yes...02:33
DoctorMonocularusr/local/bin/rails exists, that other, not02:33
wilberarchno love with or without KVM...  Screen resolution is off, too...02:33
wilberarchtried replugging after boot, nada...02:34
flowerpothave you tried unplugging and then plugging back in your keyboard and mouse?02:34
wolfcoreDoctorMonocular: I think the problem is that rails is trying to use ruby 1.8, which isn't on your system02:35
DoctorMonocularremember though, everything including rails works perfectly in the term that I used to install rvm and ruby and rails and etc in, but not in any other windows02:36
DoctorMonocularso somwhow THAT rails knows to use rvm ruby, while the others are trying to look for 1.802:36
sirdeiuDoctorMonocular: try running source ~/.rvm/scripts/rvm in another terminal then you rails app.02:37
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wolfcoreDoctorMonocular: have you logged out and back in??02:37
DoctorMonoculargood idea, but no change02:37
wolfcoreDoctorMonocular: ^^02:38
DoctorMonocularhah, I've been avoiding it because then I'll lose my only working window 8( But ok, back in a sec02:38
DoctorMonocularok, I logged out and back in02:40
DoctorMonocularit did not source the bash_profile02:40
DoctorMonocularif I do ruby -v before sourcing02:40
DoctorMonocularit says NOPE, but if I source, it reports 1.9.3 -- rails still won't run though02:41
wolfcoreDoctorMonocular: so the problem now is that bash_profile is not being sourced by new terms?02:41
DoctorMonocularyessir02:41
wolfcoredid you _actually_ log out?02:41
wolfcoreas in, had to reenter your password, etc02:42
DoctorMonocularyes, I did02:42
DoctorMonocularI logged out, it shut all my programs down02:43
wolfcorehm, thinking02:43
DoctorMonocularI had to put my password back in02:43
Mylesmadnessare the ubuntu repos slow for everyone?02:45
DoctorMonocularthey are fine for me, but someone else was in here talking about them being slow right now, so I guess so02:45
root_what is the command i use in the terminal to bring up startup manager?02:46
DoctorMonocularwolfcore, it's supposed to be '~/.bash_profile' right?02:46
wolfcoreDoctorMonocular: yeah02:46
root_to bring back the gnome fallback panel02:46
DoctorMonocularok, that's right, I was just double checking02:47
wilberarchAnyone experience the "USB keyboard & mouse not recognized following upgrade to 12.04" issue...?02:47
DoctorMonocularwilberarch, 12.04 bricked my whole system, I had to wipe and install 11.10 again02:48
wilberarchDoctorMonocular, yikes.  swell....02:48
holocronweaverSorry if this has already been asked, but anyone else in the U.S. experiencing really slow Ubuntu software server speeds?  Even apt-get update is wretchedly slow for me on all my machines.02:48
MylesmadnessI'm having issues02:49
wilberarchDoctorMonocular, so much for "Wonder what 12.04 is like?  Maybe I'll upgrade and see..."02:49
Mylesmadnessfrom multiple location in the US02:49
remlabmhaving an issue where nvidia card is only displaying low resolutions, i went into additional hardware and the Nvidia drivers i suually use say "they are broken". any ideas how to fix?02:50
holocronweaverMylesmadness, thanks.  I am in the middle of setting up my Ubuntu server and need to download about 300 MB of software, not to mention sys updates.  I guess it will have to wait for tomorrow unless I can find a decent mirror. :-/02:51
DoctorMonocularok guys, wolfcore and L3top, I REALLY appreciate all your help and advice, I wouldn't have made it this far without you, but I've been at it all day and it's getting late, so I'm going to go wind down with the woman and take a crack at it tomorrow. Maybe I'll see you here 8)02:51
DoctorMonocularThanks again, for EVERYTHING02:52
DoctorMonocularyou guys rock my face off02:52
plustaxhey guys I have a rather dumb and noobish question for you.02:52
L3topNight!02:53
plustaxI have an asus x54c laptop and I just bought 4gigs stick of memory for it. Seemed to click in nicely but I boot up and its still showing only 4 instead of the 802:53
plustaxAny ideas?02:53
RupertPupkinplustax, If you're running a 32-bit kernel, then only up to 4GB maybe supported.  You need a 64 bit machine to experience more than that.02:54
plustaxI asked this in the wrong place im running win702:54
plustaxbut it IS a 64 bit system02:54
bazhangplustax, ##windows02:54
plustaxyep im in there02:55
plustaxwrong window, sorry. But if you have any ideas, feel free to help haha02:55
bazhangplustax, so dont ask here, its not supported02:55
plustaxIt was an accident, white knight.02:55
DaZ<:02:55
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ZenGuy311i'm using filezilla trying to connect to a ssh server on my windowsd pc .. i keep getting this: Response:SSH-2.0-WeOnlyDo 2.1.303:08
GINGERNIPSI want to install ubuntu desktop 12.04 but I already have 11.0403:09
GINGERNIPSbut i also have windows running03:09
GINGERNIPScan i delete the partitions while installing the 12.04?03:10
ZenGuy311GINGERNIPS:  do you want to wipe the 11.04 install?03:10
ZenGuy311yes you can wipe the entire disk to install 12.04 .. be sue to backup to an external drive though03:10
GINGERNIPSwell ZenGuy311 i dont wanna get rid of my windows03:11
GINGERNIPSand i dont have the windows key anymore03:11
GINGERNIPSso03:11
GINGERNIPSthats not an option03:11
Hetephola, am needing help with the 12.04 upgrade. am getting an error for mismatched size03:12
ZenGuy311GINGERNIPS:  you can delete the 11.04 partition but you'll have to be sure that that you have the correct partition selected for deletion03:12
sabrehagenhi, i'm trying to install some themes, but I don't know which are compatible with Ubuntu 12.04. Can somebody tell me if I can use this theme with a stock installation of 12.04? http://customize.org/gtk/themes/5735803:13
GINGERNIPSyeah ZenGuy311 thats what im doing right now03:13
porwahhello... anyone out there able to help with a mounting a Windows share?03:13
sabrehagenporwah: is it ntfs?03:14
porwahyes03:14
porwahI can get readonly access03:14
porwahcan't write to it for some reason03:14
porwahI'm just using mount03:14
sabrehagenporwah: i can give you my fstab mount line, but i can't explain it to you. i'm no expert...03:14
GINGERNIPSZenGuy311 it says no root file system is defined03:14
porwahnot editing fstab or anything03:14
ZenGuy311GINGERNIPS:  ok  you can delete the install 12.04 over 11.04 while retaining the windows partition for dual boot03:14
GINGERNIPShow03:15
ZenGuy311GINGERNIPS:  are you as the custom disk partition setting?03:15
sabrehagenporwah: sorry, no can do then...03:15
GINGERNIPSyeah03:15
ZenGuy311GINGERNIPS:  you're suppose to put " / " as the root partition .. pleaae be sure windows is not selected03:16
GINGERNIPSyeah ZenGuy31103:16
sabrehagenporwah: i'd recommend this page though: http://customize.org/gtk/themes/5735803:16
porwahthanks sabrehagen03:16
sabrehagenhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions03:16
sabrehagenthat page, not the one before :P03:16
GINGERNIPSwhat do you mean ZenGuy311?03:16
porwahha03:16
Hetepcan a person help with a 12.04 upgrade from 11.10? am getting a size mismatch error during the upgrade process03:16
ZenGuy311GINGERNIPS:  file system is suppose to be ext403:17
porwahsabrehagen: thanks!03:17
porwahlooks like a great page03:17
porwahI was following instructions on a few other pages.03:17
porwahLooks really straightfoward03:17
GINGERNIPSZenGuy311 is there any type of guide for this? or something03:18
Psi-JackAnyone, other than myself, that uses Google Chrome with Java that's had any issues with Java causing Chrome to crash since the recent update in 12.04?03:18
sabrehagenporwah: yep, the ubuntu documentation is pretty straight forward and covers all your options03:18
GINGERNIPSoh ZenGuy311 i see what youre saying but how do i edit it03:18
ZenGuy311askubuntu.com/questions/135705/ubuntu-12-04-installation-error-no-root-file-system-is-defined  GINGERNIPS03:18
mjbrooks2 hours reamining to install... wow, color me unimpressed03:21
taquiHi03:22
ZenGuy311mjbrooks:  sounds like you're upgrading03:22
taquihello any body is heree03:22
ZenGuy311taqui:  what's up03:22
taquijust chilling03:23
taquiany good pointers for programming03:23
mjbrooksZenGuy311: I'm atually installing 100% fresh and I tole it not to download the latest updates during the install (figured I'd do those froma  faster mirroer later)03:23
mjbrookss/tole/told/03:24
ZenGuy311i'm not a programmer but http://www.codeacademy.com seems to the rave these days03:24
mjbrookstaqui: it also all depends on what you are programming03:25
ZenGuy311mjbrooks:  whats your system specs?03:25
mjbrooksZenGuy311: i7 12G of RAM... it's a fast beast03:25
taquidual core 3g of ram03:26
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mjbrooksZenGuy311: for whatever reason, my download from the US ubuntu server is a trickle03:26
ZenGuy311mjbrooks:  damn thats fast! i'm using a netbook right now and the most powerful desktop i have has a cpu that is 5 years old03:26
aedmjbrooks, try the torrent03:26
mjbrooksaed: ummm, this is the actual installation03:27
aedoh03:27
mjbrooksheh03:27
taquiSorry with boring msgs, I like to program something innovative03:27
T_A_N_Kwub wub wub03:27
mjbrooksDownloading Language pasks at 17.7 KB/s   yay03:27
mjbrookstaqui: in what language?03:28
GINGERNIPSZenGuy311 can i just install 12.04 along 11.04 than go back and just delete the partions for 1203:28
taqui.net, java, php03:28
GINGERNIPSso that way i dont have to fuck with my windows cd and all that03:29
ZenGuy311GINGERNIPS:  if you have enough free unallocated space you can install 12.04 and do that03:29
GINGERNIPSwell i cant edit these partions for some reason03:31
GINGERNIPSunder the advance menu03:31
mjbrookstaqui: you probably won't get much advice on .net here ;) My suggestion for java is to avoid it, turns out Oracle wants to own it all and force you to pay them a license... at least that's the feeling I get03:31
bazhangtaqui use alis to search for a channel and ask there03:32
bazhang!alis | taqui03:32
ubottutaqui: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http*03:32
reflexrgif I install ubuntu with encrypted home which is separate partition and then next release comes out can I install ubuntu and still be able to access my home partition again as encrypted?03:32
bazhangGINGERNIPS, no cursing here03:32
reflexrgsame password03:32
bazhangGINGERNIPS, your partitions are mounted?03:33
taquiThanks all03:33
GINGERNIPSi guess?03:33
bazhangGINGERNIPS, so you cannot edit them. boot from a livecd if you wish to do that sort of thing03:33
GINGERNIPSwell im just gunna set the 12.04 to 4.5 gigs03:34
GINGERNIPSthan go back03:34
GINGERNIPSand delete the 11.04 partitions03:34
GINGERNIPSso i dont have to mess with the windows cd03:34
bazhangGINGERNIPS, you still cannot do it on a mounted drive03:34
GINGERNIPSwhy not03:34
mjbrooksbecause you can't03:34
bazhangGINGERNIPS, dont use the enter key every two words03:34
GINGERNIPSwell, how do i fix it?03:35
bazhangGINGERNIPS, I told you already03:35
GINGERNIPSi dont have a windows cd tho03:35
bazhangGINGERNIPS, you're not listening03:36
GINGERNIPSi just dont understand lol03:36
GINGERNIPScould you link me to something i could read?03:36
bazhangGINGERNIPS, you wish to delete a partition that you have mounted and possibly in use.03:37
bazhangGINGERNIPS, think about why that is not going to work.  USE a live cd to do any sort of operation like that03:38
GINGERNIPSisnt the usb the same as a live cd?03:38
OerHekssure03:38
GINGERNIPSthats what im using03:38
mjbrooksGINGERNIPS: are you trying to resize the partions on the usb that you are using?03:40
CuriousCati have a gaming mouse, i use xinput to set velocity scaling=1.0; what is the best way to do this automatically everytime i boot03:40
Igmu_Can I get help installing Edubuntu 12.04 from USB? Bootloader starts Edubuntu from USB, but it can't find image. It's looking in /cdrom but no image exists. How can I change it to see the image on USB?03:41
GINGERNIPSi got it figured out mjbrooks03:41
CuriousCatwhere does ubuntu 12.04 get the default xinput values from?03:42
CuriousCat.xsession.rc?03:44
genii-aroundmaybe  /etc/X11/XF86Config03:44
taquihey guys help me to join a group after searching it03:44
mjbrooksIf I tell the installer not to download updates during the initial installation it shouldn't download a bunch of libreoffice packages... grrr03:45
mjbrookstaqui: if the name of the group is #foo, just type '/j #foo' (without the quotes)03:45
taquimjbrooks: thank you very much03:46
ghostconni witnessed someone today running ubuntu 12:04 with a animated wallpaper background, I'm just currious how is this possible ? anyone have an idea?03:48
tamir?help03:49
genii-aroundghostconn: Conceivably with an animated gif03:50
ghostconnso ubuntu will let me add any gif as a background image?03:50
ghostconnthats awesome lol03:51
MaisonNotarathedwhat is the way to manually update via the terminal?03:52
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LordOfTimeMaisonNotarathed:  sudo apt-get update03:53
LordOfTimeMaisonNotarathed:  and then sudo apt-get upgrade03:53
MaisonNotarathedgracias LOT03:53
zykotick9MaisonNotarathed: if you want to update everything (ie. full-upgrade) "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"03:53
Igmu_sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, I think03:54
wendicohello, is there a software in the repository to record a part of my screen to make a tutorial?03:54
MaisonNotarathedwhat does a apt-get update distinctly accomplish?03:54
Igmu_then sudo apt-get update03:54
Igmu_then sudo apt-get upgrade03:54
zykotick9MaisonNotarathed: updates your local apt database03:55
Logan_MaisonNotarathed: It updates your local package lists from the repositories in your sources.list.03:55
MaisonNotarathedwendico, push the prt scrn button03:55
Igmu_then sudo apt-get update reloads from repositories03:55
wendicohehe, yes but id like to make a video of multiple steps03:55
wylde!find screencast | wendico03:55
MaisonNotarathedaha. there were repository problems am fairly certain. getting errors from Synaptic03:55
ubottuwendico: File screencast found in ardesia, blender, cherokee-doc, flumotion, ikiwiki, istanbul03:55
wendicoty03:56
wyldewendico: or you could 'apt-cache search screencast'03:56
wylde:)03:56
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clock_cyclesWhat font do I need for fidelity.com?03:58
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Logan_clock_cycles: Where specifically?03:59
Logan_The main body text appears to have the CSS font-family of Arial,Tahoma,Verdana,Helvetica,sans-serif.03:59
clock_cyclesLogan_: I thought I got the truetype fonts from Ubuntu Software Center.04:00
Logan_Are you not getting any text at all?04:01
clock_cyclesLogan_: I looks fine, but the research tab wraps around.04:02
Logan_Which browser?04:02
clock_cyclesLogan_: Firefox04:02
Logan_Looks fine to me in Chromium.04:02
Logan_Not happening for me in Firefox either.04:02
digitaljis the ubuntu us repos download extremely slow for anything else?04:03
clock_cyclesLogan_: I was on Debian and I had to get some fonts.  Now with Ubuntu, it's not fixed.04:03
wendicothere are many softwares to screencast, how nice. would you recomend me one with the most functions to make nice tutorials? (maybe one wich would let me live zoom the screen, add caption test and hyperlinks, live voice recording, automatically saves the result into compresed  video for web...). So i dont need to test them all04:03
Logan_digitalj: Torrent it.04:03
wyldewendico: I've never used one. Each package should have some info available about. Some likley even a homepage. I usually start with package homepages to get more info about features and whatnot.04:06
digitaljLogan_, torrent what?04:06
digitaljNot the Ubuntu install image, but downloading packages from repos04:06
wendicothank u for the tip, i will just google the found packages04:06
Logan_digitalj: Oh, right.04:06
digitaljI can wget the latest kernel from kernel.org at nearly 3.0MB/s, I'm getting like 20KB/s from the US ubuntu repository04:07
Ted_hi, I was hoping I could ask what seems like a pretty simple question…  I've successfully created a live USB to boot from on my Intel MacbookPro, but I wanted to find out if there was any way for me to actually install ubuntu on this stick - It's 16 gb, and it's currently formatted FAT using diskutility on my mac.  Every time I've tried, I've gotten various errors - I just want to be able to...04:07
Ted_...load the drive using ReFit and boot it as if it was an internal partition, thanks04:07
Ted_(Tried asking in beginners, because I definitely am, but didn't get any response)04:08
wyldeTed_: you can install on the media you're booted from.04:08
wyldecan't04:09
mjbrooksdigitalj: yes, it is sloooowwww04:09
Ted_That's what I thought - however, I've also made a live CD - so if I booted from the CD, would I be able to successfully install on the usb?04:09
GINGERNIPSive installed 12.04 and restarted my computer. I already had 11.04 but i just did installed 12.04 along side that and windows vista. I know only have the option to boot to vista and 11.04. I can see the three seperate partitions04:09
wyldeTed_: yep that should work. Although I can't speak to how well it will work.04:09
wyldeTed_: Just be VERY careful when partitioning to make sure you have the right media/drive selected.04:10
Ted_I have everything backed up - I'm pretty much expecting to accidentally format my HD04:11
smwTed_, good idea, I did that to myself last week04:11
mjbrooksdigitalj: I had tried starting over and setting a different mirror, but the installer insisted on automatically switching to the us server for the intial install04:12
Bongolooking for some support :D installed ubuntu from a live USB and it wont boot.04:12
smwBongo, won't boot?04:12
Bongoyeah it just sits at a black screen with the text box blinking in the corner04:12
Ted_smw_ if I'm installing on a blank USB, what steps should I take once I start the installer from the CD - I know I need to make a 1gb swap partition, but I don't know what format, or how to do that exactly04:13
Bongoive tried rebooting from my live usb and that also wont boot04:13
ex0swap04:13
ex0is the format04:13
wyldeTed_: lol, alright. Better to expect the worst than be surprised by it. :)04:13
mjbrooksBongo: tried unpluggin the USB and booting without it in?04:13
smwTed_, "swap" is a format type04:14
IgmuI used downloaded program from pendrivelinux.com to load Edubuntu 12.04 on my USB thumb drive. I booted from my USB drive. Edubuntu splash screen loads. I press CTR-ALT-TAB to see details. It says it's looking for files in /cdrom, but it can't find those files. Do I have to change this to something else?04:14
Bongoyes still doesnt work04:14
Ted_that makes a great deal more sense04:14
smwTed_, you also need a partition for your root (called "/")04:14
smwTed_, I suggest you format as ext404:14
smwTed_, and if you want, what I normally do is give 50GB to the root and the rest to /home04:15
Ted_and how exactly should I do that?  the guide from "https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MactelSupportTeam/AppleIntelInstallation" says to use gparted04:15
smwTed_, with swap getting twice my ram04:15
smwTed_, you are installing on a mac?04:15
Ted_I'm installing on a usb04:16
Ted_16 gb04:16
Ted_I need to be able to boot it on multiple computers04:16
wendicoim short in ram memory, is it posible to speed up my ubuntu with a usb stick as windows does?04:16
Bongoanybody help me? installed ubuntu and it wont boot! also wont boot from the live usb anymore either04:16
smwwendico, adding a usb stick will not speed it up04:16
smwwendico, not sure how it would speed up windows either...04:17
mjbrooksi agree smw04:17
digitaljFetched 19.2 MB in 16min 0s (20.0 kB/s)04:18
wendicosmw: it dows by swaping small files to the flash instead of ram memory to free it04:18
digitaljSo fricking slow wtf04:18
mjbrooksdigitalj: I'll race you  ;)04:18
smwwendico, and that would be incredibly slow04:18
IgmuIt looks like many are having the same booting from USB thumb drive problem?04:18
smwwendico, swapping things to disk makes things slower, not faster04:18
mjbrooks901:00 remaing04:19
smwwendico, swapping to a usb drive would be insanely slow compared to swapping to disk04:19
wendicosmw:we are talking about a full ram enviroment04:19
wendicosmw:i mean, not free ram enviroment04:19
smwwendico, in that case I would use swap on a hard drive, not usb04:20
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Ted_I'm successfully able to boot from my live usb, but I want to have a full install on the usb so what I do will be saved04:20
smwwendico, or buy more ram04:20
smwTed_, so do it :-)04:20
wendicosmw: lol, BUY is not a solution hehe04:20
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smwwendico, I always keep 2x ram as swap space04:21
smwwendico, usb swap would be slower than hard drive swap04:21
Ted_I will now try, and report back when/if I fail. :)04:21
smwTed_, make a partition mounted at / that is ext4 and takes up the entire drive04:21
Ted_that's exactly what I will try to do04:22
smwTed_, (a GB of swap is not very useful)04:22
Ted_thanks so much for all the help everyone04:22
Ted_oh really?04:22
smwTed_, unless you plan to run this on machine with very little ram04:22
Ted_no, I have 4 gb ram04:22
digitaljI know a way around this...04:22
smwTed_, swap only matters when you run out of ram04:22
wendicosmw: true for the real meaning of "swaping" but not in practise, in some escenarios, swaping to flash can be faster, thats what ReadyBoost is all about. Is there something similar for my ubuntu?04:23
Ted_I just said 1 gb because that's what the ubuntu website recommended04:23
smwTed_, and it reduces the life of your flash drive04:23
Ted_I see04:23
Ted_so you're saying no swap necessary?04:23
Ted_just partition the entire drive at /?04:23
smwTed_, not unless your machine has under a GB of ram04:23
smwTed_, that is what I would do04:23
Ted_alright, good to know - thanks so much04:23
smwTed_, actually, less than 2GB I would use swap :-)04:24
Ted_well, either way - I have 4 :)04:24
smwwendico, you can swap to any disk04:24
smwwendico, just make a swap partition and swapon04:25
wendicosmw, i see, but that, as you say, will be slower. better swap to hard disk unless i can "smart swap"04:25
shapeHello, I just installed Ubuntu and Thunderbird won't let me add any accounts. It says: "Thunderbird failed to find the settings for your email account". And the client works on my other computer for my email address. (gmail)04:25
smwwendico, I have no idea what smart swap is04:26
chip8874Is anyone using a xfx radeon HD 6790 per chance?04:26
smwwendico, truthfully, in a total ram used environment, I would just install a light desktop environment and have swap on disk04:27
GINGERNIPSim trying to set up 12.04 using advance partitioning and i keep getting the error "no root file system is defined"04:27
smwwendico, I have no idea what smart swapping is04:27
mjbrooksdigitalj: are we racing?04:27
shapeGINGERNIPS, on the partition you want Ubuntu to be on, where it says mount point put the symbol "/"04:27
wendicosmw, yes smw, i will have to give up my ubuntu and install something lighter04:27
smwGINGERNIPS, one of your partitions must be set to be mounted at /04:27
L3top!info nvidia-current-updates04:28
ubottunvidia-current-updates (source: nvidia-graphics-drivers-updates): NVIDIA binary Xorg driver, kernel module and VDPAU library. In component restricted, is optional. Version 295.40-0ubuntu1 (precise), package size 32650 kB, installed size 96014 kB (Only available for i386; amd64; lpia)04:28
digitaljmjbrooks, no04:28
digitalji already won :)04:28
GINGERNIPSdo i need a ext 3 and 4?04:28
wendicohate to be poor :)04:28
windbuntuit will default to ext 4 GINGERNIPS04:28
smwGINGERNIPS, I suggest ext4 for everything04:28
shapeGINGERNIPS, and you will also need a swap partition. So just 2 partitions.04:29
IgmuDo I change /boot/grub/loopback.cfg Which displays as...04:29
Igmumenuentry "Try Edubuntu without installing" {04:29
L3topcan someone explain how the info factoid works? because that is inaccurate. 295.49-0ubuntu0.1 0  is apt-cache policy04:30
smwGINGERNIPS, what I normally do is devote 50GB to /, a couple GB to swap, and the rest to /home ()04:30
smwGINGERNIPS, that of course may not be possible with how much space you have04:30
Igmuto something like ... file=/USB/preseed...?04:30
L3topikonia? Are you afoot?04:31
GINGERNIPSi have enough space04:31
GINGERNIPSi left 3gigs to swap04:31
shapeGINGERNIPS, and it's installing now correct?04:32
GINGERNIPSyeah04:32
GINGERNIPSwell I already had 11.04 but i just did installed 12.04 along side that and windows vista and i only have the option to boot to vista and 11.04. So now im reinstalling 12.04. I deleted both of first 12.04 partition and the 11.04 parition.04:34
GINGERNIPSand made the new 12.04 partition with 3g of free space04:34
smwGINGERNIPS, heh, you are doing the exact same thing I did yesterday04:35
smwGINGERNIPS, I installed 12.04 on some spare unpartitioned space so I could move over slowly04:36
wyldewoo ban spam :P04:36
smwGINGERNIPS, before I hate 11.04 (the one before they got rid of gnome 2)04:36
smwhad*04:36
shapeHello, I just installed Ubuntu, and in Thunderbird, I get the error "Thunderbird failed to find the settings for your email account." - I am doing this for gmail and yahoo. And yet on my other computer Thunderbird finds these automatically. Can anyone please help me?04:36
smwGINGERNIPS, so now I have 11.04, 12.04, and win7 on my computer :-)04:37
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wendicothere is not zoom desktop by default anymore? how to zoom now?04:46
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GINGERNIPSyeah smw 11.04 wasnt that great i legit used it only for one specific thing i wanted to use it all the time but it was just tooooo much effort04:47
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GINGERNIPSi remember it took me like a hour to install my headset, given it was my first time on linux04:48
GINGERNIPSbut still04:48
DarkenvyI upgraded because at this time I cannot fresh install. I have now been getting freezes a lot. odd freezes. no curser, no TTY and screen freezes but G15 LCD clock and skype continue not frozen04:49
DarkenvyWhere is the log I should be looking for to figure out whats happening?04:50
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alusionWhere are tomboy notes saved?04:52
Logan_digitalj: Oh, jeez, you're right.05:01
Logan_It's taking forever.05:01
digitaljI used the GUI for the package manager on my desktop to get the fastest server05:01
digitaljand changed my /etc/apt/sources.list file05:01
digitaljnow its fixed :)05:01
Logan_There must be something up with the server.05:01
Logan_I hope it's not getting DDOSed.05:01
surtHi. I'm stuck at boot. lightdm won't start and I get the following errors: "mountall: Plymouth command failed", "mountall: Disconnected from Plymouth", then "[sdb] Asking for cache data failed" and "[sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through" every minute.05:02
Ted_so - I'm back, turns out the install CD I made didn't work - I'm trying to create the CD using apple disk utility.  Every time I try to mount the iso to be burned, I get an error that says "no mountable file systems"05:02
Ted_it still looks as if it's mounted properly, and burns successfully when selected, but then it doesn't show up in ReFit05:03
Ted_any thoughts?05:03
flowerpotapt-get update is downloading at like 20 kB/s.  Is something off with the Canonical servers...?05:08
surtflowerpot: Not relevant, but google something called apt-fast...multhreaded apt-get.05:09
Ted_any help on the no mountable file systems error when trying to create a live cd?05:09
flowerpotsurt, thanks05:10
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dr0idmeh, what is the command to extract tar inside a specific folder ?05:15
dr0idtar -xzf foo.tar.gz foo/bar doesn't seem to work :/ throws errors05:15
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ganadorhola05:17
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by___arg_subzerohola05:18
BlackWebHas anyone played around with gnome-panel in 12.04, I'm trying to move the panel and its not allowing me to do so05:19
carlos_eduardohey, could somebody help me in C?05:19
surtAlright f*** it I can't find help for my issue, there's nowhere else to look. If I re-install *buntu without formatting are all my settings still going to be there?05:20
ChipreEpicurosguys hello!! i also need some help.05:20
BlackWebsurt save your config files05:20
BlackWebwhats your problem your having05:21
BlackWebI'll try to help05:21
q0_0pUbuntu is on android phones now?05:21
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q0_0phttp://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android05:21
surtBlackWeb: I can't get xorg/lightdm to start. I get four errors, two reoccurring.05:22
surtBlackWeb: "mountall: Plymouth command failed", "mountall: Disconnected from Plymouth", then "[sdb] Asking for cache data failed" and "[sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through" every minute.05:22
ChipreEpicurosmy computer stops responding for a few seconds and then starts responding again05:22
ChipreEpicurosright now it froze and came back within a few seconds05:22
ChipreEpicurosit's very annoying05:22
ChipreEpicurosis there something i could download to check my hardware?05:22
ChipreEpicurosand see what the problem might be/05:22
ChipreEpicuros?05:22
surtBlackWeb: sdb does not exist on my netbook. There's only one drive, and only one listed in fstab.05:23
ChipreEpicurosand again.....05:24
ChipreEpicurosjeeez05:24
K`zanErr, I hope I am wrong here, but I just downloaded and tried 64bit ubu and it has problems.  Best screen I can get is 1024x768 and no access to Nvidia drivers.  Did I miss something or is ubu64 bit that braindead?05:24
18WAAZFYZhello my notebook doesn't turn off after hibernate what should I do?05:25
BlackWebsurt havent seen that before,, have you tired uninstalling mountall05:25
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BlackWebis what my first guess would be05:25
___fede____hola05:25
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BlackWebI'd remove mountall then try it again05:25
surtBlackWeb: Sounds like a recipe for disaster...but I guess I have nothing to lose05:26
___fede____alguien habla spanish05:26
BlackWebya sorry couldn't be of more help05:26
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18WAAZFYZhow can I make ubuntu turn off after a hibernate?05:26
TomatoKetchupK`zan, when booting from the live cd do you experience that?05:26
ChipreEpicurosguys? any1? any software i could download to check if all my hardware is functioning correctly?05:26
surtBlackWeb: Removing mountall would effectively disable the entire system.05:28
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diddyjust finished installing ubuntu woot... this sh*z is awesome05:28
__f-e-d-e__hola05:28
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hampsterbladeOk so ubuntu upfated ealier and now networking is broken. What should i do?05:28
hampsterbladeSorry for typos typing on my phone05:29
ChipreEpicurosguys? :)05:29
__f-e-d-e__phome05:29
hampsterbladeIt has to be either due to the update or the iinstallation of wine 1.505:29
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hampsterbladeBut I'm at a loss.05:30
K`zanTomatoKetchup: Yes, the Live CD.05:30
flowerpothampsterblade, what errors are you receiving, if any?05:31
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hampsterbladeIy just gives network errors at boot don't know how to view the actual errors05:32
TomatoKetchupChipreEpicuros, how much ram do you have?05:32
ChipreEpicuros4 gigs05:32
ChipreEpicurosbut it is very weird. it was working fine till the day b4 yesterday05:32
TomatoKetchuphrm05:32
ChipreEpicurosno problems what so ever05:32
ChipreEpicuroshaven't installed anything new....05:32
diddy403quick question, how is the "Ubuntu Software Center" different from Apt-Get ?05:32
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hampsterbladeIts just a front end for apt-gey05:33
TomatoKetchupstrange indeed, I'm not sure what could be causing that05:33
diddy403ok, so I can still do the old "sudo apt-get install xxxx" and it'll work just fine05:33
diddy403?05:33
ChipreEpicuroslike right now it did it again. it becomes unresponsive for a few seconds and then comes back to life05:33
ChipreEpicurosi was wondering. is there something that i could check my h/w with?05:34
Mr__anyone else getting this when trying to install ubuntustudio audio05:34
newgodwhat05:34
Mr__ubuntustudio-audio:05:34
Mr__ Depends: ubuntustudio-generation but it is not going to be installed05:34
Mr__ Depends: ubuntustudio-recording but it is not going to be installed05:34
TomatoKetchupK`zan, what video card do you have?  I'm using a gtx460 and it worked out of the box at full resolution live cd / installed05:34
FloodBot1Mr__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.05:34
diddy403Chip, do a quick ping -t to google.com or something and watch for packet loss05:34
hampsterbladeI just did on an strace on service networking start anf its giving resource temporarily unavailable05:34
TomatoKetchupdiddy403, his system is freezing, what is pinging google going to do?05:35
TomatoKetchupunless I am misunderstanding05:35
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TomatoKetchupChipreEpicuros, what video drives are you using?05:36
ChipreEpicurosNot a ping related issues.05:36
ChipreEpicurosi don't really know05:37
TomatoKetchupwell what card do you have in there?05:37
ChipreEpicurosan nvidia05:37
diddy403Tomato, sorry I thought he meant his network was freezing and wanted a way to verify... ping would show loss of packets05:37
TomatoKetchupdiddy403, nah, system ;)05:38
TomatoKetchupChipreEpicuros, have you activated the proprietary drivers?05:38
hampsterbladeHis system is freezing and my network wont connect05:38
ChipreEpicurosyes.but it blows that my system worked just fine till a couple of days ago05:39
szerzeteshi! I have a problem with my RTK (noname) DVB-t tuner, on Xubuntu 12. 04.05:39
K`zanTomatoKetchup: running a 670 here, works fine in 32bit...05:40
newgodwhat's problem05:40
szerzetesI run w_scan, and it say: using DVB adapter auto detection.05:40
szerzetes/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0 -> DVB-T "ITE 9135(9006) Generic_1": good :-)05:40
TomatoKetchupChipreEpicuros, I mean you could watch the system monitor for when it freezes, see if the cpu is jumping and what process is causing it05:40
szerzetesI set it tvtime.xml, as V4LDevice05:40
hampsterbladeSorry abour that05:41
szerzetesand it say: videoinput: /dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0 is not a video4linux device.05:41
szerzeteswhat do i wrong?05:41
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TomatoKetchupK`zan, ah that's a pretty new card, nvidia driver just added support05:42
hampsterbladehttp://sgs4g.mhamptontech.com/networking.strace05:43
hampsterbladeSorry http://sgs4g.mhamptontech.com/network.strace05:43
TomatoKetchupK`zan, what driver version are you using?05:43
maduracryptsetup: WARNING: failed to detect canonical device of /dev/sda1 is shown when update-initramfs -u, what does it mean?05:44
diddy403!ldconfig05:45
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blackmatrix_nyIs there anyway I can modify the seahorse app so that it ask for master password whenever someone tries to see passwords in plain format ?05:48
newgodyes05:49
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blackmatrix_nyor is there a way to disable password from being viewed in plain format on that seahorse app ?05:51
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remlabmcan anyone help me with an nvidia issue, i have followed every walk through on the site and i cannot get x11 to start. i keep getting "Screens found, but none have a usable configuration". this is after doing the additional driver installation and removing xorg-xserver-nouveau. any ideas?05:56
jellypodhow do i edit the icon launcher in (or the menus in general) on ubuntu 12.04 using Gnome Classic (gnome-panel)?05:57
jellypodremlabm: which card?05:57
jasmin12eHelloo05:57
DarrowI'm upgrading to 12.04 and the upgrader is stuck on ttf-mscorefonts-installer.  Any way I can skip over an upgrade?05:57
remlabm8500gt05:57
jasmin12eI have a question05:57
jellypodremlabm: Im having good luck with the bumblebee drivers.05:58
remlabmwhich card are you using? and do you have multiple monitors?05:58
jellypod610m (optimus)05:58
jellypodNvidia 610m (optimus)05:58
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jellypodremlabm: I have not tried multiple monitors yet05:59
jasmin12eIm trying to reinstall xp back over ubuntu but the bootable disc says it cant be read when I put it in. I even tried to reinstall a older version of ubuntu05:59
jellypodremlabm: the #bumblebee chan helped me alot.05:59
jellypodhow do i edit the icon launcher in (or the menus in general) on ubuntu 12.04 using Gnome Classic (gnome-panel)?06:00
jellypodI mean within the application menu.06:00
zizooHello, does anyone know why my computer always crashes when shut down via cron?06:01
jellypodApplication>Accessories>terminal for example, how to I edit the launcher in that menu on ubuntu 12.04 using Gnome Classic?06:01
jellypodzizoo: dunno06:01
jagginessjellypod, maybe you can make a launcher on the menu bar, then holt alt+rightclick on the icon06:02
jellypodjagginess: that does work, but I really prefer to change the launcher.  For example, I end googleearth to start with "optirun googleearth" for it to work.06:03
jellypodend=need06:03
zizooAlso, is there any way to set cron to only execute a command at the listed time if it's on? I set it to shut down at specified times, but if I turn it off before and turn it on after, it shuts down immediately. This is annoying.06:03
jellypodzizoo: I would run a bash script in cron, and the bash script would check if the process is running, and act accordingly06:04
zizooErr, you mean have a bash script check the time and shut down if it's the specified time? That's a good idea.06:05
flowerpotCan anyone else using du 8.13 and Ubuntu 12.04 reproduce this bug? http://pastebin.com/GGhFDjDy06:06
jellypodzizoo: no, i mean setup the cron for whenever you want. but instead of running the command you want running at that time, run a script that checks if the process is running and then runs your command if it is.06:07
hampsterbladeHow can i troubleshoot the network service not starting in 12.0406:07
zizooHuh? Are you thinking I mean to shut down a particular process, because I am shutting down the whole computer?06:07
zizooOr what process am I meant to be checking for?06:08
zizooThe command is "sudo shutdown now".06:08
jellypodsudo poweroff06:08
K`zanTomatoKetchup: On this 32 bit (u10.10) Nvidia driver: 295.53.06:09
remlabmjellypod : no go on bumblebee, only shows one monitor as laptop with 1 resolution06:09
zizooOh... is that why it's crashing?06:09
K`zanTomatoKetchup: NV-CONTROL Version: 1.2706:09
jellypodremlabm: sorry.06:09
jellypodzorael: sorry, im unclear on what you want to do.  You want cron to run a command if the computer is turned on?06:10
B4u/Join #ubuntu06:10
jellypodzizoo: sorry, im unclear on what you want to do.  You want cron to run a command if the computer is turned on?06:11
zizooYes. I want it to turn off the computer. As it stands, there are two problems. To the crashing you said you didn't know what the problem was. The other was that it turns off again as soon as I turn it on if I shut it down before the specified time.06:13
hampsterbladeFucking computer06:13
newgodFuckion woman06:14
remlabmheard that06:14
jellypodzizoo: Im not sure what the shutdown issue is.  Someone else here might be able to help.  Im curious what you want to do with cron.06:14
jellypodIn Ubuntu 12.04, using Gome Classic (gnome-panel), how do you change the launcher command of an item in the menu.  For example I want Application>Internet>GoogleEarth to execute06:16
jellypodIn Ubuntu 12.04, using Gome Classic (gnome-panel), how do you change the launcher command of an item in the menu.  For example I want Application>Internet>GoogleEarth to execute "optirun googleearth" instead of googleearth.06:16
jellypodhampsterblade: I have felt that way all week with ubuntu 12.0406:17
deejay31Hello06:17
deejay31Does anyone know of a way to install Ubuntu to a USB stick, so it boots like if it was on a hard drive06:18
kimspindeluse unetbootin06:18
hampsterbladeI just  lost networking and cant figure out why06:18
jellypoddeejay31: are you using windows to make the usb?06:18
hampsterbladeSo im pretty pissed atm06:18
deejay31Will that make it boot like if I normal booted an ubuntu PC06:18
jellypoddeejay31: not by default.06:18
kimspindeldeejay31: yes, it has an option to06:18
deejay31Yes i am using windows06:18
DarrowI'm upgrading to 12.04 and the distribution upgrader just froze. What should I do?06:18
jellypodkimspindel: persistence?06:18
jellypodis that built in?06:19
kimspindelhuh?06:19
jagginessdeejay31, http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/06:19
deejay31Thank you06:19
jellypodare persistent changes built into unetbootin? I thought it just made a live cd.06:19
jellypodhe, I was wrong if it does persistent changes. that use to be harder to do.06:20
kimspindeloh, i don't even know what persistent changes are, lol06:20
deejay31Also, I am thinking of changing my Server from CentOS to Ubuntu, is there any significant changes?06:20
jellypodkimspindel: that means that you make a bootable live usb and it will save the changes that you make when you boot into it.06:20
jagginessdeejay31, there's a server ubuntu edition that supports raid on install (the desktop one doesnt support raid on install)06:21
deejay31Ok but is there any HUGE differences06:21
jellypoddeejay31: I like it better, the community is stronger imo.  more current applications are ported to ubuntu also, imo.06:21
jagginessdeejay31, huge difference between centos and ubuntu? you should ask in #linux06:21
kimspindelah i see. then i'm not sure.06:21
kimspindel(but i don't think so)06:21
deejay31Can you get: nginx, webalizer, Apache, Java, Irssi, Cowsay,06:22
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shapeHello, I've installed Ubuntu 3 hours ago and since then Ive been trying to get Thunderbird to work. I keep getting this message: "Thunderbird failed to find the settings for your email account". I've tried both gmail and yahoo with the exact settings that I use on my other computer (which works no problem), and I get the same error. Can someone please help? :(06:22
jellypoddeejay31: yes, definitely06:22
jagginessdeejay31, you said "server". hence I'm thinking you should get a RAID setup..06:22
deejay31No, I have'nt got the resources/money for RAID06:23
jagginessdeejay31, there's06:23
deejay31?06:23
jellypoddeejay31: I also like the apt package manager better than yum.06:23
jagginess"software raid" (which isnt bad and what i use)06:23
deejay31What is better than yum then06:24
remlabmjellypod : did you remove the nouveau drives when using bumblebee?06:24
deejay31How is it better706:24
jellypodremlabm: ahhh..lemme see06:24
jagginessdeejay31, you mean complementary, dpkg has aptitude and synaptic06:24
hampsterbladeFuuuuck i think im going to have to reinstall im out of ideas06:25
jellypodremlabm: Ive talk to the bumblebee guys about the dual monitor thing, they said, a day or so ago, they are still working on it with opitimus cards, its not perfect yet.  if you are running optimus, you need to use optirun to open nvidia, btw.06:25
deejay31Just to check, httpd (On centos) is called Apache2 on Ubuntu?06:25
hampsterbladeYes06:25
deejay31And nginx can be installed from source as usual06:26
jellypodremlabm: I have, bumblebee, libdrm-nouveau1a, libdrm-nouveau1a-dbg, xserver-xorg-video-nouveau and xserver-xor-video-nouveau-dgb06:27
hampsterbladeNow the ubuntu install disk is going into kernel panic wtf06:27
jagginessdeejay31, apt-cache search apache06:27
machiolateanyone have suggestions for ubuntu freezing/crashes? version 11.1006:27
jellypoddeejay31: it breaks stuff less imo.  also faster.  more repos for ubuntu (imo) that are update more often.06:28
jellypoddebian base systems are all around more stable, imo.06:28
deejay31Grrr, I am going to have to manually export and then import 20 mySql databases...06:28
jellypoddeejay31: sudo apt-get install synaptic, that is a nice gui to see what you an install.06:28
mjbrookshampsterblade: please watch your language06:28
jellypodIn Ubuntu 12.04, using Gome Classic (gnome-panel), how do you change the launcher command of an item in the menu.  For example I  want Application>Internet>GoogleEarth to execute "optirun googleearth" instead of googleearth.06:29
jellypodgome=gnome*06:29
madsailorHi all.  How can I change the default login background for 12.04 LTS?  Googling brings up Ubuntu Tweak , but I want to use something in the repos/use the terminal06:30
jellypodmadsailor: I use ubuntu tweak to do that.06:30
jagginessjellypod, try to use synaptic or something to get the menu editor..06:30
jellypodthere is a ppa for ubuntu tweak, to apt-get install ubuntu-tweak.06:30
jellypodjagginess: ok06:30
deejay31CAn you get iftop on ubuntu06:30
jellypodlooking06:30
jellypoddeejay31: yes06:31
deejay31Good thank you06:31
jellypoddeejay31: tons of apps, any apt I can think of in Centos is in ubuntu, or some ubuntu ppa, and there is also so much more.06:31
deejay31jellypod: OK thans a relief :)06:32
madsailorjellypod, do you know of a solution in the main repos?06:32
jellypodmadsailor: mmm, no06:33
madsailorok, thanks06:33
jellypodmadsailor: looking06:34
jellypodmadsailor: you using unity?06:36
deejay31is the apache config file the same in ubuntu as it is in centos?06:36
madsailorjellypod, yes06:36
jellypodI thought it was unity-greeter.conf, but im looking for that.06:37
Qalqii am courageous enough to login simultaneously with same user profile06:38
deejay31 is the apache config file the same in ubuntu as it is in centos?06:38
jellypodmadsailor: yep, I don't know.  I do not normally use unity. Someone else in here might know..  Sorry.06:42
flowerpotWhat handles the detection and auto-mounting of USB drives in Ubuntu?06:43
deejay31Do all the same apache modules work on Ubuntu as they would on Centos06:43
madsailorjellypod, ok.  Thanks for taking a look.06:43
jellypoddoes anyone know the name of the application, so that I can launch for terminal, to open the Lock and Brightness gui in System Settings?06:45
q0_0pjellypod: you can set brightness with xbacklight06:48
zizooSorry, my xchat glitched for a bit there. I was wondering why no one said anything for a half hour. Thanks jellypod, I was just setting my computer to shutdown every evening at 1 AM. My sense of time is somewhat lacking, so rather than have an alarm tell me to get off, I decided to punish myself any time I fail to get off by 1, by losing all data in active programs. It's been working, but the problems with cron are annoying.06:48
zizooDoes anyone else know why my computer would crash consistently during shutdowns initiated by cron? =/06:49
q0_0pjellypod: you could set the brightness here /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video006:49
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deejay31I am now leaving, and when I rejoin, I will have Ubuntu set up and running on my server06:53
jellypodanswer to my first question: open terminal and run alacarte to edit menus \o/06:56
jellypodq0_0p: I will look at the dimming brightness, but I would like to make a launcher to open that app06:57
jellypodor just gnome the name of the app06:57
jellypodalacarte edits your menus in gnome classic, woohoo06:57
_ProtekNickzHi all, Simple questio?, Is it ok to install this theme on Ubuntu 12.04 "KDE Desktop"?, """Install Transparent Swar-Black-Base Themes on Ubuntu 12.04 Precise/Ubuntu 11.10 Oneiric/11.04 Natty/10.10 Maverick/10.04 Lucid/Linux Mint (GTK3/2)"""06:58
iops_ProtekNickz: What do you mean by "ok"?06:59
alexhairymanKDE IS A WHOLE nother desktop environment06:59
_ProtekNickziops: Well i use KDE and if I'm right in thinking that theme is for Gnome 3/2, so  was woundering06:59
crizis.. wtf?07:01
iopsI think there are programs that make KDE use Gnome themes07:01
remlabmjellypod: reading about bumblebee, says its for optimus, am i mistaking or is that newer chips? or does bumblebee work on any nvidia chipset?07:01
_ProtekNickzok..., so i shudda went with Gnome rather then KDE?07:01
Qalqifrom then on my sound card is not funtioning07:01
iopsIf you want to use that theme, it's probably easier07:02
_ProtekNickzlol07:02
alexhairymanIts a matter of opinion07:02
_ProtekNickziops, in you opinion is Gnome better  or wha?, as it was mentioned that KDE is overbloated Like Windows Vista?, or was that just some bias?07:03
crizis_ProtekNickz: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html07:04
tacirusHey people, I have Ubuntu 10.04 and the Flash plugin version 11 installed , but the Epiphany browser doesn`t work for a game that is made with flash. How can I solve this?.07:04
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tacirusThe other browsers like Firefox, Chromium do run any flash conetent well07:04
shapeHello, I've installed Ubuntu 3 hours ago and since then Ive been trying to get Thunderbird to work. I keep getting this message: "Thunderbird failed to find the settings for your email account". I've tried both gmail and yahoo with the exact settings that I use on my other computer (which works no problem), and I get the same error. Can someone please help? :(07:04
shapeI've tried reinstalling it multiple times, including the system itself and I get the same problem. The version is 12.0.107:05
iops_ProtekNickz: It's a matter of preference, but I've always liked Gnome 2 (and now Unity) better than KDE07:05
mjbrooksinstall time has now exceed 6 hours... sigh07:05
alexhairymanMe too07:06
_ProtekNickzshape: make sure the pop and smtp settings are correct07:06
mjbrooksalexhairyman: I told it not to download updates but it is anyway it seems07:06
shape_ProtekNickz, I copied them 100% correct from the computer that is working with those settings. :(07:06
iopsshape: Thunderbird should be able to auto configure for Gmail.  What server are you pointing it at?07:07
shape_ProtekNickz, I am losing my mind literally. I reinstalled Ubuntu even!07:07
shapeiops, that's the thing, it doesn't do it automatically. I suspect something is blocking its connection.07:07
_ProtekNickzshape: did you check incase you need SSL? or normal pass ect..07:07
shape_ProtekNickz, I've done that, yes.07:07
_ProtekNickzk07:07
iopsshape: Did you enable POP or IMAP in your Gmail settings?07:08
Artemis3shape, your problem seems related to thunderbird, reinstalling ubuntu is not necesary, you could just wipe ~/.thunderbird and start again07:08
iopsshape: Do you have 2 factor authentication enabled?  You have to create an app specific password in that case07:08
shapeiops, what is a 2 factor authentification?07:09
shapeArtemis3 I did that at least 2 times :(07:09
iopsIf you're asking, then you probably don't have it enabled. :)  It's where Gmail sends you text message and you have to enter a code to login07:09
prabuinethi, i can't find keyboard layout for my language(tamil) in ubuntu, so I would like to create one, where should I start?07:09
Logan_prabuinet: I have Tamil available as a keyboard layout in Ubuntu.07:10
shapeiops. So my normal email, on my other computer works with Thunderbird right at this moment. And I am trying to set up the same email on this computer. You are saying they are conflicting?07:10
prabuinetLogan_: there are a few layouts listed, but i need the office layout for tamil (tamil99)07:11
prabuinetLogan_: official layout of the government07:11
shapeiops. Because the email is working on the other computer, I assume everything is turned on in Gmail. no?07:12
iopsshape: No, if it already works on one computer, it should work on the other07:12
shapeiops, exactly :(07:12
prabuinetLogan_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamil_9907:12
Logan_Ah.07:12
iopsIs that a Windows computer?07:12
shapeiops, both of them are running Ubuntu.07:12
shapewith Thunderbird that comes with it.07:12
iopsshape:   Do you have access to that computer?  Try copying the entire .thunderbird folder over07:13
shapeiops: I sure can07:13
shapeiops: give me a sec07:13
jellypodremlabm: yes, new chipset, it has two gpus, you can run things using optirun as a prefix.07:14
iopsshape: Delete the .thunderbird folder that's on the new computer first07:14
shapeiops, shouldnt I just uninstall it?07:14
iopsNah, just delete the profile folder07:14
iopsAnd copy the other one over07:15
shapeiops, so just delete the .thunderbird from the home folder and copy the other one.07:15
iopsUninstalling Thunderbird actually won't remove the folder.  You want to copy the settings over07:15
iopsYep07:15
jellypoddoes anyone know the terminal command that will launch 'brightness and lock'?07:15
shapeiops: copying now to a USB drive, 3 minutes remaining. I will let you know once I finish everything07:16
iopsok07:16
iopsshape: If that doesn't work then the problem isn't in your Thunderbird settings07:17
Logan_prabuinet: Maybe someone in #ubuntu-tam would know?07:18
jellypoddoes anyone know the terminal command that will launch 'brightness and lock'? You can nomally launch it from gnome-control-center, second icon.07:18
prabuinetLogan_: thanks, i'll check it out07:18
Logan_np07:18
shapeiops, in the meantime, while it's copying, what else could it be. ufw is disabled for example. Anything else that might block the connection?07:18
iopsshape:  Also, close Thunderbird before you copy the folder onto the new computer07:18
shapeiops, yep, it's closed and the folder is deleted.07:19
maxyyQue bueno verte por aqui [maxyy]07:19
maxyyMe alegra que entraste [robgraves]07:19
mjbrooksoh wonderful, after downloading the updates I told it not to, the installer now seesm to be hanging on the Installing System step07:20
iopsshape:  Maybe.  Open a terminal and type "ping -c3 smtp.gmail.com".  If you can ping the server, then it's reachable07:22
shapeiops: it works. I just pinged it. It should've worked anyway since the other computer connects and gets email fine. So the whole thing comes down to the system I just installed and/or the thunderbird version.07:24
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iopsWhat about "telnet smtp.gmail.com 587"07:25
bersamhi everybody! i want to install ubuntu beside of my archlinux, the problem is i want to share home partition between two distro but ubuntu can't access to my partition home ...07:25
shapeiops: I copied it and it's working!07:25
iopsOk :)07:25
shapeiops: so it was Thunderbird.07:25
zizooOk, so I figured something out about my cron problem. Every time cron shuts down the computer, stopping automatically generated error reports fails before the crash. Anyone know what that means, or what logs or such I can look at to help figure it out?07:26
shapeiops: but now I just dont understand, after installing it 5 times, with 3 different methods, why it didn't work!07:26
waxstonehi, experiencing RANDOM freezing causing me to have to reboot. cannot CTRL+ALT+F1. (12.04 64bit Nvidia gtx680). Using proprietarydriver because less freezing than opensource driver07:26
shapeiops: Thanks a lot for the suggestion btw! I appreciate it. At least I got it working.07:26
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iopsshape:  There was an error in the configuration settings. reinstalling it at the system level wouldn't make a difference as long as the old .thunderbird folder with the bad configuration was still there07:27
iops:)07:27
shapeiops: But I even reinstalled Ubuntu07:27
shapeiops: strange, no?07:28
tacirusAnybody to let me know why Epiphany browser doesn`t run flash while Chromium and Firefox are alright with it, having the Adobe flash player verison 11 installed07:30
shapeiops: Btw, I can see now, that the program was skipping the part where it searches in the mozilla configuration database.07:30
iopsshape: Yeah, but if you configured it wrong after reinstallation then you're back where you started07:30
jellypoddoes anyone know the terminal command that will launch 'brightness and lock'? You can nomally launch it from gnome-control-center,  second icon.07:30
iopsshape:  Nice thing about copying the folder over is that you get all your emails already on the system rather than having to download them07:30
shapeiops: yes I had to copy 1GB :) also iops: There was no configuration. It just wouldn't search and give me the imap for gmail from the mozilla database. It skipped that part and told me it couldn't find the settings and that I should configure it manually. And even if I did so it still wouldn't work.07:31
shapeiops: That is what I don't understand what was going on07:31
Zallxhowto webviewer tvtuner ?.?07:31
Zallxanyone ?07:32
iopsIt took 2 days to download 1.8 GB from my Gmail.  You got the emails in a few minutes this way :)07:32
Zallxno one ?07:33
shapeiops, Yet! THanks again btw! I really appreciate it!07:33
iopsnp07:33
Zallxwebspace tvtuner php in ubuntu ?07:33
shapeiops, btw, the messages are encrypted right? As in someone copying the thunderbird folder, cannot see your messages right?07:33
iopsno07:34
oratedHello! Is there any alternative command to ifconfig to get eth* details?07:34
Zallxifup07:34
Zallxifdown07:34
iopsshape: You can change the permissions on the folder though07:34
c4ptHi i am having problems with two sound cards and a conflict between two sound cards i am using snd-ctxfi and snd-hda-intel  the problem is when i put the sound blaster card into my computer and restart the intel audio disappears from the system completely even in lspci -vvv | grep Audio its not there anymore     so if i take out the sound blaster x-fi , my intel hda audio onboard is there again07:34
c4ptwhat can i do so that both sound cards are registered in the system?07:34
shapeiops, I cannot find them though. I am looking because I was curious07:35
jellypoddoes anyone know the terminal command that will launch 'brightness and lock'? You can nomally launch it from gnome-control-center,  second icon.07:35
oratedZallx:  ifup - bring a network interface up -- ifdown - take a network interface down07:35
oratedZallx: I'm looking for eth* information instead of using ifconfig :)07:36
iopsshape: I used pop on mine and it was in .thunderbird/profile.name/Mail/pop.googleemail.com.   Yours will probably be in .thunderbird/profile.name/ImapMail/(gmail something)07:36
Zallxorated: i guess ur alternative is in gtk07:37
iopsshape: look for a file that's 1 GB :)07:37
Zallxor in kde07:37
Zallxvisual packages07:37
shapeiops: it's in ImapMail/imap.googlemail.com/[Gmail]sbd07:37
hattraphi room07:37
shapeiops: sucks though. I thought they were encrypted :(07:37
mjbrookswell, install is hune after spending 6+ hours downloadin updates I told it not to... not happy07:38
oratedZallx: Any command line alternative ...07:38
shapeiops: this makes it less secure, under Windows for example.07:38
mjbrookshung*07:38
iopsshape: You could create an encrypted private folder and put the .thunderbird folder in that, then symbolic link it07:38
hattrapi formatted my usb using disk utility but now it is not detected by Ubuntu07:38
Zallxorated: if u write one07:38
Zallxone that prolly depends on ifconfig07:38
iopsshape: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory07:39
hattrapcan any1 help me with this07:39
hattrapi formatted my usb using disk utility but now it is not detected by Ubuntu07:39
shapeiops: I see. I will learn how to do that. The reason I installed Ubunutu on a different machine was to learn Linux! :)07:39
hattrap@shape...u were intelligent07:39
iopsmv ~/.thunderbird ~/Private ;  ln -s ~/Private/.thunderbird ~/.thunderbird07:40
shapehattrap, lol what do you mean? are you being sarcastic?07:40
Miscnimorning all07:40
shapeiops: yes, thanks!07:41
c4ptanyone ?07:41
hattrapi hope i would have done the same thing....i m faving lot of problems now...07:41
hattrapfacing*07:41
Zallxhi c4pt07:42
c4pthi07:42
Zallxwhat u need ?07:42
c4ptZallx, i am trying to run two sound cards at the same time onboard sound and sb x-fi sound07:42
c4ptZallx, if i put the sb x-fi card into my computer my intel hda disappears from lspci and the system07:42
hattrap@shape i formatted my usb using disk utility but now it is not detected by Ubuntu07:42
Zallxi need a webshare or viewer for tvtuner .... for my phone so i can watch tv always07:42
c4ptZallx, if i take the card out (if i take out the sb x-fi) my intel hda audio is back07:43
shapehattrap, I chose to do that because the computer is really old and I wasn't using it. 1.6 Ghz AMD Sempron. But if you don't have an extra computer I'm sure you can learn it if you run it in Virtualbox or VMware, that way you won't mess it up if you're screwing around.07:43
Zallxc4pt: best guess is to add virtual mixers ?07:43
hattrapunfortunately i messed up all my date...wished would have taken a backup07:44
Zallxwhy 2 soundcards ?07:44
c4ptZallx, but why does it disappear from lspci -vvv ?07:44
renatkarenatka07:44
c4ptZallx, one card for parallels extreme (virtualization)07:44
jellypoddoes anyone know the terminal command that will launch 'brightness and lock'? You can nomally launch it from gnome-control-center,  second icon.07:44
renatkaRenatka07:44
Zallxc4pt: becuz onboard is disabsled when offboard is attached is my best guess07:44
shapehattrap, but you formatted the USB, werent you expecting to lose the data?07:44
shapehattrap, does windows see it?07:44
c4ptZallx, so how can i resolve it ?07:44
c4ptZallx, i would really like both cards to be used07:44
Zallxu need to rewrite the driver so it doesnt disable07:45
renatkaRenatka07:45
c4ptZallx, it shows the video card hdmi audio and usb audio07:45
Zallxor add a AlwaysEnableOnboard.sh07:45
Zallxto re-enable it after its disabled ?07:45
jellypodseriously, nothing for brightness and lock?07:46
hattrapnot in USb...i used to work in windows. when i started Ubuntu it was ext....i tried to change ext to ntfs so that i can access ubuntu from windows but...forget it ...it is a long story07:46
Zallxthen add that to bashrc07:46
shapeDoes anyone know if your firewall iptables is not enabled, if it makes you vulnerable to attacks? I remember in Windows I was getting attacked all the time.07:46
waxstonehi, experiencing RANDOM freezing causing me to have to reboot. cannot CTRL+ALT+F1. (12.04 64bit Nvidia gtx680). Using proprietarydriver because less freezing than opensource driver07:46
c4ptZallx, i could write the .sh i just dont understand how to re enable it right now07:46
c4ptZallx, if i wanted to re enable my snd hda intel what should i do ? with the snd-ctxfi running ?07:46
Zallxlscpi needs to take a discision when 2 audio devices are connected07:47
Zallxwitch is master witch will be disabled07:47
jellypodshape: depends on who you ask..  you behind a router?07:48
Bergany chance of getting some help with the nvidia drivers for a geforce 8800 card i fresh installed ubuntu 12.04 and let it update on install and then i used the driver manager to install the drivers //// it starts but it is stuttery i can get it to do things but i have to wait up to 5 minutes for it at act07:48
shapejellypod, yes.07:49
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jellypodif you are blocking inbound connections (usual set by default on a router) you are likely gud.  You would need to setup port forwarding to hit your machine from outside your router.07:50
shapejellypod, Linksys wrt54gl. Yeah and it's all good, yet Comodo still detects intrusions in Windows.07:50
c4ptZallx,  can i pm?07:50
shapejellypod, blocks intrusions*07:50
jellypodwindows is vulnerable to everything imo.  I cant help with that.07:51
shapejellypod, Oh, yes I know that. I was just asking if you have iptables disabled, would you still be safe.07:51
jellypodshape: why do you have it disabled?07:54
greenithi, i have a lexmark-printer and installed the lexmark-toolbox, but when i want to print, it just aborts the print-jobs, because i have no more color-ink, however, the black ink is nearly full and i want to print black only...  how can i force the print or change settings so that it prints?07:55
DarwinSurvivorgreenit: that's probably a question best answered by lexmark. From what I've heard some printers won't *let* you do that.07:56
shapejellypod, can you please paste me what you said in case you responded? My internet crashed. :(07:56
DarwinSurvivorgreenit: there is an alternative though07:56
greenitDarwinSurvivor, k07:56
greenitDarwinSurvivor, which one?07:56
jellypodshape: Just asked why you have iptables off.07:57
DarwinSurvivorgreenit: some printers allow you to override the toner sensor to always show pull (I do this on my HP to get a few hundred more prints per cartridge).07:57
DNDhi guys need help. we have a very old P4 computer running ubuntu 12.04 it also has a very old agp video card that has 2 outputs. the problem is.when i left the two tvs running the second tv just decides to sleep07:57
DNDi have disabled the screensaver and its still happening07:57
AtTrackTorhi @ all07:58
DarwinSurvivorgreenit: on the HP it actually right in the button-controlled menu on the printer itself (as well as the printer's web interface), you'll have to check with lexmark to find out if your printer has a similar feature (check the manual for "override")07:58
shapejellypod, before I answer that, is iptables the same as ufw ?07:58
jellypodmm, no07:58
greenitDarwinSurvivor, thx07:58
fyrzenHello, I have a small query for you gentlemen. I have a current ubuntu installation on one partition (18GB). I want to make another (125GB) partition my home folder and preserve all settings. Will simply moving the user directory (and other files in /home) to the new partition, and mounting it as /home in /etc/fstab do the trick?07:58
shapejellypod, then it's not off sorry. I meant ufw is disabled.07:58
jellypodshape: ufw is a iptables frontend07:58
shapeufw is disabled by default when you install07:58
Bergany chance of getting some help with the nvidia drivers for a geforce 8800 card i fresh installed ubuntu 12.04 and let it update on install and then i used the driver manager to install the drivers //// it starts but it is stuttery i can get it to do things but i have to wait up to 5 minutes for it at act07:58
zornenthello all07:59
DarwinSurvivorfyrzen: should yes. but as always with partition stuff back everything up just in case07:59
jellypodufw is a iptables frontend, jsut a controller program for iptables.07:59
jellypodtype sudo iptable -L07:59
zornentis there a good tut on how to get a built in laptop webcam working in ubuntu?07:59
fyrzenDarwinSurvivor, jolly good, thanks very much07:59
jellypodthat will list your iptables07:59
DarwinSurvivorfyrzen: no problem07:59
c4ptZallx, can i pm?08:00
DarwinSurvivor!webcam | zornent08:00
ubottuzornent: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras08:00
shapejellypod, Chain input policies are set to accept, what does that mean?08:00
DNDany help?08:00
deejay31Oh ues, I no have ubuntu installed on my server08:01
jellypodthat is default08:01
deejay31*now08:01
DarwinSurvivorDND: can you connect another display to it (or swap the displays) to determine if it is something specific with the tv or the output of the card itself?08:01
jellypodshape: that is default.08:01
shapejellypod, so it's all good, right?08:01
jellypodsounds good08:01
jellypoddeejay31: how is it?08:02
deejay31jellypod: I was  about to reinstall centos, because apt-get want installing packages, then I realised that I need to run sudo apt-get update08:02
jellypodsudo!08:02
DNDDarwinSurvivor, ok wil try switching and will even heck the bios08:02
deejay31Better than centos though08:02
shapejellypod, So is there any other way I might be at risk against attacks? Or just being on Ubuntu makes it hard to do that.08:02
AtTrackTorneed just a small hint. I created a file as root in a folder named /home/shared (to have a folder for all users). chmod 777 on folder and file. chgrp users on folder and file. but still trying to open the file as one of my "users" says "error opening file". can someone please tell me, what I forgot?08:02
jellypodsudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade08:02
jellypodthen reboot08:02
deejay31who me08:02
jellypodshape: being on ubuntu makes it hard, but it really depends on what you are doing.08:03
DarwinSurvivorAtTrackTor: please run "ls -l path_to_file" and tell us what you get08:03
jellypodif you are just using a desktop behind a router, you should be fine from the outside world.08:03
jellypodas long as the router blocks incoming traffic08:03
deejay31jellypod: Just need to upload all 400mb of files now!08:03
shapejellypod, Like malicious websites trying to attack you.08:04
jellypodI do?08:04
jellypodshape: that is a different issue08:04
fastaHow can I answer all upgrade questions at the same time?08:04
jellypodyou still need to be careful of what you click on, but you are MUCH safter with ubuntu08:04
deejay31jellypod: no me08:04
jellypoddeejay31: do it08:04
jellypody08:04
DarwinSurvivorDND: remember, if you are using a laptop, chances are you will eventually connect to an unencrypted network (mcdonalds, starbucks, etc). THAT is where your firewall will save your butt.08:04
jellypodneeds the upgrades08:04
deejay31me do what08:04
fastaIt now upgrades a bunch of packages and then stops asking me questions and then it goes again and then it stops again. It drives me crazy.08:04
AtTrackTorDarwinSurvivor: drwxrxrwx 7 root users 4096 2012-05-19 20:22 aponotebook08:05
jellypoddeejay31: sorry, I thought you were running upgrades with apt08:05
deejay31I did08:05
fastaIt is also completely unreasonable behaviour as it could also just ask all those questions at the beginning or the end.08:05
AtTrackTorDarwinSurvivor: ah.. of course its drwxrwxrwx (+w)08:05
netrunner1greetings everyone! im trying to instll ubuntu12.04 server edition in an old machine(pentium m 1.5Ghz) and im getting an error message telling me that the kernel requires pae w/c is not present in my CPU...08:05
jellypoddeejay31: oh, ok.08:05
DarwinSurvivorAtTrackTor: that's a directory, not a file08:05
jellypodis everything working gud?08:06
deejay31Yes, I didnt need to manuslly install , my host has that option!08:06
jellypoddeejay31: cool.08:06
deejay31Yes, It saves all the CD''s and USB drives and slow internet stuff08:07
jellypoddeejay31: check out /apt/sources.list, you might want to uncomment partners.  Also check out the medibuntu repos.08:07
deejay31My packages are working now08:07
jellypodsweet08:07
jellypodiftop08:07
jellypodhtop08:07
jellypod[:08:07
FloodBot1jellypod: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.08:07
jellypodFloodBot1: sorry08:07
deejay31Lol08:07
jellypod(:08:08
AtTrackTorDarwinSurvivor: you're right. and i think, i found the reason. the group of all files changed. but most files are still in mod 755 or even 600.08:08
DNDDarwinSurvivor, is that message for me im using a desktop and 2 LCD tv are connected to a single video card08:08
deejay31Is it possible to use irssi as an IRC bouncer08:08
deejay31I suppose if I put it in a screen...08:08
jellypodmmmmm...how do you mean?08:08
jellypodyes, that is what i do deejay3108:08
jellypodscreen08:08
deejay31So you are using irssi now08:09
zizoolol, apologizing to bots. I've done that. xD.... For a sec I thought I figured out your problem, jellypod, then I realized that you mentioned you're using 12.04 now. I'm thinking I was right to delay updating. Lots of people having random troubles. >.>08:09
DarwinSurvivorDND: no, I was answering another quick question for someone else. did you get the TV's switched and narrow down the source of the problem?08:09
jellypoddeejay31: nice howto for irssi and ubuntu http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=101078008:09
deejay31I am using irssi on ubuntu now08:09
BergI take it there is no remedy for my problem as no response have a nice day all08:09
jellypodjust did it on ubuntu 12.0408:09
jellypoddeejay31: well if you want the irssi scripts and such08:10
deejay31Ok thank you08:10
jellypodnp08:10
deejay31Joy only 59 minutes left of uploading08:11
DarwinSurvivorAthanasius: why are your files mod 755? Are they scripts or something? (odd numbered permissions mean executable)08:11
AthanasiusDarwinSurvivor: huh?08:12
Athanasiusoh08:12
netrunner1is there a boot option i can place to use a non-pae kernel on a 12.04 server installation?08:13
jellypodso another fail with ubuntu 12.04, no command line command to run the brightness & lock window08:13
deejay31Oh yes ,ubuntu is the best08:13
jellypodfail08:14
jellypod\o/ubuntu08:14
deejay31I using Ubuntu 11.10 x86_64, is that good?08:14
jellypoddeejay31: sure08:14
deejay31My host didnt have 12.0408:14
jellypodits gud enough for now08:15
jellypodi still use 10.0408:15
jellypodand love it08:15
deejay31Whys that08:15
zizoo10.04 is better you think?08:15
jellypodI like it better08:15
jellypodno unity08:15
deejay31Do you need unity on a server?08:16
jellypodgnome2...no reason to really upgrade.08:16
zizooIsn't gnome classic in 11.10 good enough for that?08:16
jellypoddeejay31: no08:16
waxstonehi, experiencing RANDOM freezing causing me to have to reboot. cannot CTRL+ALT+F1. (12.04 64bit Nvidia gtx680). Using proprietarydriver because less freezing than opensource driver08:16
zizooI haven't had problems with it anyways.08:16
jellypodinstall gnome-panel and gnome-shell if you want to try something else for GUI desktop deejay3108:16
jellypodzizoo: some like, most ive met do not like unity (yet)08:16
deejay31pastebin08:17
jellypod?08:17
deejay31I was seeing if ubottu is in the room08:17
deejay31http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi08:17
zizooNo, no, I dislike unity. I'm talking about using the classic desktop to be rid of the interface.... Or is that a bit backwards of me?08:17
jellypodzizoo: I use classic08:18
jellypodon 12.0408:18
StarryNighti went kde08:18
jellypodand regular old gnome2 on 10.0408:18
ldz420jellypod: yeah.. i know a couple of people that don't like unity some of the item are imo good innovations - I am also not a fan of new things and didn't think that I would like unity08:18
deejay31I hate unity, in my opinion it is only good on a touchscreen08:18
jellypodkde, blah, imo.08:18
zizoobut it's giving you a lot of grief now, isn't it? I've been pretty happy on 11.10's classic.08:18
zizooAgreed on the touchscreen point.08:18
deejay31Yes08:18
fastaUbuntu informed me 3 times now that the php.ini file has changed. One would think that one is enough.08:18
ldz420have anyone that doesn't like unity use 12.04 LTS?08:19
popeyjellypod: gnome-control-center screen08:19
jellypodldz420: just such a learning curve.  been using ubuntu since breezy, debian/slackware/gentoo before that.  This is easily the hardest time ive had in a while.08:19
jellypodpopey: for what?08:19
popeyjellypod: in answer to your comment that you can't start brightness and lock from the command line08:19
jellypodpopey: right, is there a terminal command for the brightness window, second icon, I just want to lanch that second icon in gnome-control-center..08:20
popeyjellypod: thats what i just gave you gnome-control-center screen08:20
deejay31Jellypod: Do you think the centos apache config file will work on ubuntu08:20
jellypodpopey: YOU R the man08:21
jellypod\o/thx08:21
popeynp08:21
* jellypod is SOOO HAPPY08:21
popeyso, we can conclude from this that 12.04 is not as faily as first announced :p08:22
deejay31Ok...08:22
excalibrdoes anyone know of way to edit sciTE menu entries?08:22
ldz420jellypod: I can understand I started ubuntu on 5.04 and used fedora and redhat before.  but when using the HUD I have found it useful08:22
deejay31Who here uses ubuntu on a server?08:23
jellypodldz420: agreed08:23
jellypoddeejay31: o/ I do08:23
deejay31Same08:23
jellypoda few, and i use centos, in a server room.08:23
jellypodlikez ubuntu moar08:23
DarwinSurvivordeejay31: I used to (using FreeBSD on the server now)08:23
deejay31When I leave an SSH session inactive for about 2 minutes, my host drops the connection!?08:24
DarwinSurvivorDND: are you still there?08:24
ldz420ok I have an issue and wanted to know if someone could think of some options that I could look into. I am using nvidia and when not using the proprietary drivers08:26
ldz420my screen resolution doesn't go past 1024 * 768.  which doesn't bother me that much . which is why I am not using the proprietary driver but wanted to know if there my be some options08:26
ldz420besides proprietary nvidia drivers08:27
Wiz_KeeDhello guys08:28
ldz420hey wiz_keed08:28
DarwinSurvivorldz420: is there any reason you're *not* using the proprietary drivers?08:29
c0deMasterwhats the advantages of using Apparmor over selinux? other than its easier.08:30
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Wiz_KeeDhttp://linuxconfig.org/how-to-crack-a-wireless-wep-key-using-air-crack does anyone know why wlan0 is not available?08:33
jyrge, for more info use WHOIS NickServ NickServ08:33
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ldz420DarwinSurvivor: when possible I try to stay away from proprietary it just hold a negative connotation in my mind especially when open source alternative covers my needs.. it is just the higher resolution would help with fitting more item on the screen . (but I do have more than one workspace)08:33
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Wiz_KeeDsorry connection went down for a sec08:35
ldz420so I don't know if a little reading and some coding could resolve the issue that I am having.. but I really wouldn't know where to start.. or if there are some specific driver versions that would resolve the issue08:35
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TomatoKetchupldz420, just curious what card you are running?08:37
ldz420TomatoKetchup: nvidia geforce 7300 LE08:38
Vbitzinstall on a hp mini netbook with 64bit 12.04 has frozen08:38
Vbitzcomplaining about GPT signatures, interface is responsive but nothing is happening, I'm installing using ubootin08:39
Wiz_KeeDdoes anyone have any ideea?08:39
openbeesunable to install anything from software center ubuntu 12.0408:41
Wiz_KeeDhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/139462/wlan0-shown-as-eth1-after-upgrading-to-12-04 i have the same problem but i have not upgraded to the latest ubuntu08:41
openbees unable to install anything from software center of Ubuntu 12.04 . updated system . launched using terminal with sudo but still not working. Any idea what happening ?08:42
fastaHow can I list only unread mail from one account in the thunderbird icon in unity?08:43
Wiz_KeeDhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/139462/wlan0-shown-as-eth1-after-upgrading-to-12-04 can anyone relate to tis problem? i am in 10.0408:46
Wiz_KeeDthis is something more close to my purpose08:47
Wiz_KeeDhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=179360608:47
jellyblobHow do I save connection (like with bookmarks) using "Connect to Server" in ubuntu 12.04 using Gnome classic?08:52
jellyblobohai all08:52
gnrhi08:52
jellyblobohai gnr08:52
gnrWiz_KeeD: /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules08:52
Wiz_KeeDi think you got the path wrong gnr08:53
jellyblobIm using Gnome Classic on Ubuntu 12.04.  How do I save server connections, like under Place>bookmarks, the way I use to in 10.04?08:54
gnryou seems to be smart08:54
Wiz_KeeDno i wan't trying to, there is no such directory Gnea08:54
Wiz_KeeDgnr,08:54
gnris the /etc/udev existed?08:55
jellyblobanyone know how to save server connections, like Places>bookmarks, for ssh connections using "Connect to Server"? On ubuntu 12.04..?08:56
jellyblobusing Gnome Classic?08:56
Wiz_KeeDwait, found it gnr08:56
gnrperhaps dh_installudev - install udev rules files?08:56
fastaI run that Ubuntu screen program, but inside such a session I started another screen session. When I press C-a C-d, it detaches from the outer Ubuntu screen session. How do I detach from the inner screen session?08:56
Wiz_KeeDhttp://pastie.org/393904808:57
jellyblobfasta: I will kill the second session with ctrl+d08:57
cek Hi. I'd like to have a very recent-kernel livecd, for testing new hardware. What would you recommend?08:57
cek That is, it means some userspace daemons should be aware of that hardware, too. like lsusb, lspci, dmidecode, mcelog08:57
jellyblob12.0408:57
Wiz_KeeDwhat now gnr :) ?08:58
fastajellyblob: that has no effect.08:58
jellyblobcek: is ubuntu 12.04 gud enough?08:58
cekjellyblob, can it work under kernel.org latest stable kernel?08:58
jellyblobfasta, if you are in the second session? you should be able to ctrl+d and exit08:58
fastajellyblob: I also cannot press F9 to get the menu.08:58
jellybloblet me do it to myself and see, I do that all the time accidently [:08:59
fastajellyblob: my second session is this irc chat.08:59
DarwinSurvivorjellyblob: just drap/drop the folder to the bookmarks toolbar08:59
fastajellyblob: there is no extra shell08:59
gnredit the file, delete the one you don't want and add the one you need08:59
jellyblobah, fasta easiest thing is to kill them both and start again, just saying, imo08:59
fastajellyblob: that doesn't sound like a very informed solution.08:59
jellyblobfasta: if you kill the first session, I think it will kill the second session09:00
jellyblobfasta: Im just saying what is easy09:00
cekI don't want ubuntu with all bloatware, is it possible to make a text livecd?09:00
jellyblobif you hit ctrl+d in the second session though, at least on 10.04 and 12.04, it exits the session09:00
gnrWiz_KeeD: something like this: # PCI device 0x168c:0x002b (ath9k)09:00
gnrSUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTR{address}=="77:de:2b:10:0e:d0", ATTR{dev_id}=="0x0", ATTR{type}=="1", KERNEL=="wlan*", NAME="wlan1"09:00
jellyblobcek: what about server edition?09:01
Wiz_KeeDi should run a command?09:01
gnrjust make sure the drivers, mac address and the names are correct09:01
Wiz_KeeDok step 2...how do i do that? :))09:01
gnrreboot and see if all is right09:01
Wiz_KeeDi've rebooted every day09:01
Wiz_KeeDwhy should anything change, i hadn't done anything09:02
fastajellyblob: I already found the answer.09:02
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jellyblobfasta: screen -r?09:03
Wiz_KeeDor did you imply i run a command and i hadn't noticed gnr09:03
gnrWiz_KeeD: did you see this? SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTR{address}=="77:de:2b:10:0e:d0", ATTR{dev_id}=="0x0", ATTR{type}=="1", KERNEL=="wlan*", NAME="wlan1"09:03
jellyblobfasta: great? i use screen everyday, i hate it when that happens [:09:03
jellyblobgreat?=great!09:03
Wiz_KeeDahh, you mean add that to the doc and reboot gnr?09:03
fastajellyblob: no, and you should t advice people to kill programs.09:03
gnrWiz_KeeD: yup09:04
fastajellyblob: solution was c-a-a-d.09:04
jellyblobfasta, ah I didnt know you were running the program...09:04
fastajellyblob: yes, you knew.09:04
fastajellyblob: because I said it was my irc client.09:04
gnrWiz_KeeD:just make sure the drivers, mac address and the names are correct09:04
jellyblobfasta, ctrl+d is the easy thing to do, if you do not like the advice, feel free to ask someone else.09:04
Wiz_KeeDgnr, how can i do that?09:04
Wiz_KeeDwith mac i can do ifconfig09:05
fastajellyblob: I also told you that ctrl+d didnt work.09:05
jellyblobctrl+d only makes sense if you are in terminal09:05
jellyblobif you are in irssi, it does nothing09:05
fastajellyblob: and where was I?09:05
gnrWiz_KeeD: ifconfig first and note down the mac09:05
fastajellyblob: you should really stop your redundant talking.09:05
jellyblobfasta: I didnt know you were in your irc client.09:05
Wiz_KeeDgnr, got it09:05
jellyblobfasta: you got your answer /ignore fasta09:05
fastaI will ignore you.09:06
Wiz_KeeDso i should replace it in your example?09:06
gnrWiz_KeeD: nope, that's mine :)09:06
gnrWiz_KeeD: haha except the mac09:06
Wiz_KeeDso i replace the mac with the one from ifconfig09:06
DarwinSurvivorDND: ok, I have to go now, good luck with your TV's09:07
gnrWiz_KeeD: just change the mac, i think it should work09:07
Wiz_KeeDok, thank you gnr i'll reboot and be back09:07
Wiz_KeeDhopefully :-s09:07
Wiz_KeeDwish me luck :))09:07
gnrWiz_KeeD: good luck09:07
jondothow do i change font size to a fractional size, i.e. 10.6 in the new 12.04 terminal?09:08
Wiz-KeeDgnr, what should have happened?09:09
Wiz-KeeD:)09:10
TwinlatorHELP: git-daemon-sysvinit cannot be removed09:10
gnrWiz_KeeD:what do you mean?09:11
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Wiz-KeeDgnr, i've changed the rules as you said, rebooted, and i see nothing different09:12
gnrTwinlator:apt-get remove --force ?09:12
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jellyblobanyone know how to save server connections, like Places>bookmarks, for ssh connections using "Connect to Server"?09:13
gnrcWiz-Keed:an you pastebin the edit version... the whole file09:13
gnrWiz-Keed:can you pastebin the edit version... the whole file + the ifconfig output09:14
Twinlatorgnr: It doesn't work09:14
Wiz-KeeDwhat was that path again gnr? to the rules09:14
gnrTwinlator:dpkg -r --force-remove-reinstreq <package> ?09:15
jellyblobanyone know how to save server connections, like Places>bookmarks, for ssh connections using "Connect to Server"?09:15
gnrWiz-KeeD:mine is /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules09:16
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Wiz-KeeDhttp://pastie.org/393909809:17
Vbitzwhy are there 3 floodbots09:17
jellyblobanyone know how to save server connections, like Places>bookmarks, for ssh connections using "Connect to Server"? Ubuntu 12.04 Gnome classic.09:17
gnrWiz-Keed:it's the eth1 that you want to chanbge to wlan1 right?09:18
Twinlatorgnr: twinlator@twinlator-OEM:~$ dpkg -r --force-remove-reinstreq git-daemon-sysvinit09:19
Twinlatordpkg: error: requested operation requires superuser privilege09:19
Twinlatortwinlator@twinlator-OEM:~$ sudo dpkg -r --force-remove-reinstreq git-daemon-sysvinit09:19
Twinlator(Reading database ... 275683 files and directories currently installed.)09:19
TwinlatorRemoving git-daemon-sysvinit ...09:19
Twinlatorupdate-rc.d: /etc/init.d/git-daemon exists during rc.d purge (use -f to force)09:19
FloodBot1Twinlator: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.09:19
Twinlatordpkg: error processing git-daemon-sysvinit (--remove):09:19
Twinlator subprocess installed post-removal script returned error exit status 109:19
karthick87 How to change the background image of login screen in ubuntu 12.04 ? it automatically changes when i change the wallpaper, how do disable this feature ?09:19
jellyblobkarthick87: good question09:19
jellyblobalso09:19
jellyblobanyone know how to save server connections, like Places>bookmarks, for ssh connections using "Connect to Server"? Ubuntu 12.04 Gnome classic.09:19
thegame8890My computer slows down significantly with continuous operation. After a few hours it's struggling to do anything. I checked my lists of tasks and I've pinpointed it to a task called "whoopsie". It is sometimes using up 100% of my CPU and at least 50% of my RAM. I believe this is what's called a memory leak issue? Could someone help me with this please.09:21
Wiz-KeeDgnr, most probably09:21
Wiz-KeeDi have no trouble with the name, i cannot use aircrack-ng to test my router09:22
Twinlatorgnr: i typed, but it shows    http://paste.ubuntu.com/997036/09:22
jellyblobWHY did Canonical take out bookmarking for "Connect to Server"?09:22
jellyblobis there a new way?09:22
ActionParsnipjellyblob: once you connect, use the add bookmark there09:22
Wiz-KeeDif i replace eth1 with wlan0 in this example gnr it doesn't work http://linuxconfig.org/how-to-crack-a-wireless-wep-key-using-air-crack09:23
jellyblobActionParsnip: on the left menu pain?09:23
* jellyblob is trying this now.09:23
ActionParsnipjellyblob: the add bookmark is in the global menu09:23
jellyblobActionParsnip: oh i see it now..09:23
jellyblobtrying..09:23
karthick87Also ubuntu 12.04 is very slow in login into user account. Any fix ?09:24
ActionParsnipthegame8890: http://askubuntu.com/questions/135540/what-is-the-whoopsie-process-and-what-does-it-do09:25
ActionParsnipkarthick87: all users? (make a fresh one to test if needed)09:26
jellyblobActionParsnip: totally works, thx09:26
gnrWiz-Keed:http://pastie.org/3939117 this will be your new line 17, hash line 11 and 1409:26
ActionParsnipjellyblob: in Quantal, the bookmarks appear in the right click menu on nautilus in Unity :)09:26
Twinlatorhow to remove git09:27
ActionParsnipTwinlator: use software centre09:27
jyrgeWiz-Keed, did you put your wlan interface into monitor mode09:27
jellyblobActionParsnip: ah, Quantal09:28
u53rhello. does ubuntu have a function for automatically switching between using a graphic card and internal processor graphics like intel hd 4000?09:29
karthick87ActionParsnip: How to change the background image of login screen in ubuntu 12.04 ? it automatically changes when i change the wallpaper, how do disable this feature ?09:29
gnrTwinlator:update-rc.d git-daemon remove09:30
thegame8890ActionParsnip: thank you for the link. So can I just remove whoopsie?09:31
ActionParsnipi guess09:32
thegame8890ActionParsnip: OK, thank you :)09:33
ogutUbuntuuu09:33
Funkt..09:34
czubik8805helo09:34
czubik8805anybody is here ?09:35
Twinlatorgnr: thank you for your help09:35
ogutHello09:36
ActionParsnipquiet today09:37
miss_ubuntuGood Day ActionParsnip09:37
ActionParsniphi miss_ubuntu09:38
miss_ubuntuQuestion : Quick file search, ONLY in file names ,indexed , through LENS in unity  or some other method. possible??09:38
fastaHumans look like smurfs in Youtube Flash videos. Other videos look OK. Any idea?09:39
miss_ubuntuFasta u can increase the video resolution on youtube for better quality09:40
fastamiss_ubuntu: smurfs like in 'blue'.09:40
miss_ubuntuActionParsnip what tool do u use for searching only in filenames?09:40
fastamiss_ubuntu: the colors are all wrong (there is a lack of red, I think)09:40
ActionParsnipmiss_ubuntu: locate09:40
ActionParsnipmiss_ubuntu: you'll need to run:  sudo updatedb   first09:41
miss_ubuntufasta , is ur monitor ok?09:41
fastamiss_ubuntu: I already said that other videos work fine.09:41
dubeyI have setup RAID10 with 1TB of 8 volumes on Ubuntu 10.04 (Kernel 2.6.32-317-ec2) and md  v2.6.7.1; I am facing system freezing issue09:41
fastamiss_ubuntu: I suppose I could even download the exat same video to verify.09:41
miss_ubuntuActionParsnip locate is not as good as Everything.exe in windows09:41
miss_ubuntufasta have u tried any other browser?09:42
fastamiss_ubuntu: no09:42
miss_ubuntufasta plz do :)09:42
ActionParsnipmiss_ubuntu: how, updatedb makes a database of the files, so the search is instantaneous09:42
dubeyI also noticed that system CPU load continue to go up and one of the volume from array's ioload is 100% and avgqu = 100%+09:43
ActionParsnipdubey: is the ram healthy?09:43
dubey16/32 GB RAM09:43
dubeyrest volumes has not activity all 009:44
miss_ubuntuActionParsnip can we customize locate to search only in particular directory?09:44
ActionParsnipmiss_ubuntu: it's like searching a text file, its that fast, you can also grep the output and run commands on the output which windows can't do natively09:44
miss_ubuntuActionParsnip can we customize locate to INDEX only in particular directory?09:44
ActionParsnipmiss_ubuntu: to search a particular directory you'd need to grep, the database is ALL files09:45
miss_ubuntuActionParsnip i wish u have used Everything.exe09:45
ActionParsnipmiss_ubuntu: locate is a lot more powerful due to text streams in UNIX09:45
fastaActionParsnip: wrong09:45
ActionParsnipfasta: just saying 'wrong' means nothing09:45
fastamiss_ubuntu: locate has a configuration file.09:45
icerootmiss_ubuntu: --prunefs='path...'09:45
icerootmiss_ubuntu: which is for exclude see also "man updatedb"09:46
fastaActionParsnip: I had to stop you from creating yet more wrong statements.09:46
cekare there any ready livecds with ubuntu? i don't need desktop09:46
ActionParsnipfasta: then try saying that, gives 'wrong' some context09:46
fastamiss_ubuntu: there are also desktop search products on Linux.09:46
dubeyalso i am using jfs filesystem09:47
miss_ubuntu fasta e.g which product do u use?09:47
ActionParsnipfasta: wouldn't you say?09:47
fastamiss_ubuntu: e.g. Beagle, but I don't know what's currently the best one.09:47
ActionParsnipfasta: there is no 'best'09:47
miss_ubuntuActionParsnip how do u run updatedb instantaneously updated whenever a new file is created?09:48
BlackshirtWhat definition of best?09:48
miss_ubuntuActionParsnip thanks for the help by the way09:48
waltreedHi all, I've just installed a 12.04 Server which installed Samba4 - Samba4 errors out and I really want samba3 anyway, yet can't seem to locate 3 in the repository. Is there an alternate repository I need to enable in sources.list to get Samba 3 instead of 4?09:48
dubeyand checkarray cron doesn't finish in even for weeks09:48
ActionParsnipmiss_ubuntu: you could cron a job09:48
miss_ubuntuBlackshirt definition of best is : it should be as good as windows tool : Everything.exe09:48
ActionParsnipwaltreed: why samba4?09:48
fastaActionParsnip: sure there is.09:48
quixotedonhow to use aircrack-ng on 12.04?09:49
miss_ubuntuActionPtarsnip oh yes cron is always good ,09:49
fastaActionParsnip: and I know what you mean, I just think it's an extremely annoying response.09:49
ActionParsnipfasta: for the individual, maybe. but an absolute best doesn't exist09:49
PsykoMantisdwnld backtrack lol09:49
waltreedSamba4 was all that was available and it's pre-alpha quality at best. I really want 3.09:49
fastaActionParsnip: normal people like miss_ubuntu don't want to hear that crap.09:49
miss_ubuntuActionParsnip and fasta bundle of thnaks09:49
ActionParsnip!info samba | waltreed09:49
ubottuwaltreed: samba (source: samba): SMB/CIFS file, print, and login server for Unix. In component main, is optional. Version 2:3.6.3-2ubuntu2.1 (precise), package size 7812 kB, installed size 22371 kB09:49
ActionParsnipfasta: keep it family friendly please09:50
dubeyany suggestion09:50
ActionParsnipquixotedon: I'd ask in the backtrack channel09:50
waltreedWhen I apt-cache search for samba, I don't see 3.6.3. Only the samba 4 packages.09:50
fastaActionParsnip: normal people and miss_ubuntu don't want to hear that feces.09:50
robgravesfasta: lol09:51
miss_ubuntufasta and ActionParsnip ... comeon guys why are u fighting ?09:51
ActionParsnipfasta: there is no best, it doesn't exist09:51
dontknowwhat is the program remove command, equal to software center job?09:51
ActionParsnipfasta: it's like asking what the best browser is, there isn't one. You will only get opinions09:51
icerootwaltreed: even on 12.10 there is samba (3) in the repos09:51
quixotedonActionParsnip: thanks dude, seems that everyone's taking the aircrack-ng issue up.. :)09:51
ActionParsnipdontknow: sudo apt-get --purge remove packagename09:51
icerootwaltreed: apt-cache show samba09:51
fastaActionParsnip: if people ask that question, yon, you have to understand why y are asking it.09:52
miss_ubuntuQuestion: ssh / proxy / socks tunneling practice . does one need more than one laptop for that? is there any free ssh accounts out there to practice online?09:52
dontknowActionParsnip, this will do the same job what software center does?09:52
ActionParsnipfasta: Then present options and let them explore09:52
ActionParsnipdontknow: yeah it will remove the package and residual configs09:52
dontknowActionParsnip, thanks09:52
fastaActionParsnip: I did. You on the other hand started whining about theoretical things like defining best.09:53
icerootfasta: #ubuntu-offtopic09:53
miss_ubuntufasta ... what os do u use?09:53
ActionParsnipdontknow: you can remove unneeded deps with:  sudo apt-get --purge autoremove     after if you desire09:53
quixotedonActionParsnip: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/i386/aircrack-ng (it's deleted due to unmaintained status ??)09:53
fastamiss_ubuntu: I use multiple.09:53
yaluthe user accounts module in system settings doens't allow to reset a user's password. how do you do this? (except for command line)09:54
miss_ubuntufasta multiple on one latop ... do u use virtual machines? which software ? vmware? i try to use vmware on ubuntu for xp but its takes a lot of resources09:54
dontknowActionParsnip, that command will remove all unnecessary dependencies?09:54
miss_ubuntuyalu why can't u use command line?09:54
ActionParsnipdontknow: yes, if you remove packages and it makes others not be needed, the autoremove command will remove them, saves space09:55
ActionParsnipmiss_ubuntu: +109:55
icerootyalu: sudo passwd username09:55
Mikey^dontknow: also, you can purge the cofiguration files, though you wont save much space :)09:56
miss_ubuntuQuestion:  is there any free ssh accounts out there to practice tunneling online?09:56
fastamiss_ubuntu: I don't dual on laptops and I don't virtualize on laptops either.09:56
belgianguyanyone else having issues with Flash in 12.0409:56
belgianguyesp on YouTube09:56
dubeyis it good to stop checkarray cron ?09:56
fastabelgianguy: yes09:56
iceroot!details | belgianguy09:56
ubottubelgianguy: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."09:56
fastabelgianguy: I get smurfs instead of people.09:56
ActionParsnipmiss_ubuntu: tried virtualbox?09:57
ActionParsnipbelgianguy: what issue do you get?09:57
belgianguythe video plays, but the marker of where the video is at that point in time does not update09:57
miss_ubuntunops ActionParsnip is it better than vmware in terms of resource utiliztion?09:57
dontknowMikey^, "sudo apt-get --purge remove packagename" this command doesn!t remove config files? if so what is the command for that?09:57
belgianguyunless I mouse over, it'll immedeatly update09:57
belgianguysame for the volume button09:58
ActionParsnipmiss_ubuntu: its different, try it09:58
icerootdontknow: it is removing conffiles09:58
Mikey^dontknow: sudo aptitude purge ~c09:58
Mikey^dontknow: there are many commands to do that though..09:58
icerootdontknow: but "conffile" is a special term in debian packages and does not mean for example /home/username/.program/my.conf09:58
belgianguyI'm using chrome btw09:58
ActionParsnipmiss_ubuntu: try setting fewer resources to the guest OS09:58
miss_ubuntuACtionParsnip installing thanks09:58
c0deMasterhow to permanently disable sound capturing?09:58
icerootdontknow: a conffile must not be a text-file with configs09:58
nawukoheylukecarrier, some german here? i have a problem :D09:58
fastaI verified that .mp4 version of the file works. So, Youtube Flash version gives me blue people and Youtube Mp4 version with vlc works perfect.09:59
iceroot!de | nawuko09:59
ubottunawuko: In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis!09:59
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ActionParsnipbelgianguy: can you give a pastebin of the output of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'09:59
fastaUbuntu didn't secretly replace it with gnash, did it?09:59
ActionParsnipwe'll see10:00
yalumiss_ubuntu: well I use commandline all the time, but I'm researching LTSP for people who don't10:00
dontknowi wonder when canonical will release chromium 1910:01
fastamiss_ubuntu: another browser has the same problem, btw.10:01
fastaIt's using the non-free flash.10:01
miss_ubuntu_hi guys which irc client do u use on ubuntu? does it automatically connects u to ur channels after internet is disconnected and connected again10:01
icerootmiss_ubuntu_: every client has a automaticly reconnect-option10:02
dontknowmiss_ubuntu, xchat it connects auto10:02
c0deMasterhow to permanently disable sound capturing?10:02
icerootmiss_ubuntu_: and asking what people are using is a bad idea, e.g. if i name "irssi"10:02
quixotedonmiss_ubuntu_: i'm using empathy, yes, if you make it as an auto connect option10:02
miss_ubuntu_icroot i use xchat but it doesnt dontknow10:02
miss_ubuntu_thanks boys i use xchat but it doesnt seem to auto connect10:03
dontknowmiss_ubuntu, at opening edit your favorite channel10:03
dontknowmiss_ubuntu, edit and add #ubuntu10:04
fastamiss_ubuntu, ActionParsnip: it is this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/flashplugin-nonfree/+bug/96864710:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 967091 in adobe-flashplugin (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #968647 Wrong tint in flash when it uses video acceleration" [Undecided,Confirmed]10:04
belgianguyActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/3Xz6RirY10:04
miss_ubuntu_thanks dontknow , fasta ActionParsnip10:05
quixotedonmiss_ubuntu_: have you made the channel favorite?10:05
quixotedon:)10:05
ItsMeLennyWOW! finally i can watch youtube videos without people being blue, turn off video accell10:05
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Your_DogMine didn't work that way, I had to do something with the config10:05
Your_Dogwith flash inorder to remove the blue tint10:06
fastaItsMeLenny: you had the same problem?10:06
belgianguyI don't have the smurf problem, but it seems it doesn't update it's user interface elements10:06
miss_ubuntu_<quixotedon>  i have edited channels list and click autoconnect at startup10:06
ItsMeLennyfasta, yeah ive had it for months!10:06
fastabelgianguy: that sounds like a JavaScript problem.10:06
ActionParsnipbelgianguy: that's not all of the command I gave....10:06
quixotedonmiss_ubuntu_: great!! :)10:06
ItsMeLennyfasta, just disabled video accel just then10:06
miss_ubuntu_OMG there are so many ubuntu channels10:07
belgianguyActionParsnip: oops, hang on10:07
fastaItsMeLenny: which specific solution did you pick?10:07
fastaItsMeLenny: never mind, I see what you did.10:07
fastabelgianguy: I would suggest you get Firefox from Mozilla directly and try again.10:07
fastabelgianguy: then you can see whether Ubuntu did anything wrong. Also use a clean profile.10:08
anonymousanyone here?10:08
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belgianguyhttp://pastebin.com/Ry6iPtEt10:09
Guest30565...10:10
Guest30565heloo10:10
belgianguyfirefox doesn't have the problem10:10
belgianguyso then it's chrome acting up?10:10
Bender_in Ubuntu 10.10 my software center doesn't show up the item in each category, even if below i can see "1322 items available". I know it's an old distro but is the only that runs well in this laptop. Can you help me please?10:11
Guest30565guys...im new here...10:11
ActionParsnipbelgianguy: try:  sudo dpkg -P flashplugin64-installer; sudo apt-get --purge remove flashplugin-installer10:11
ActionParsnipbelgianguy: then enable the partner repo and install adobe-flashplugin10:11
AdvocatedHi there, does anyone recommend any software that will burn .avi > dvd format(as high as possible)?10:14
ActionParsnipAdvocated: devede is one option10:14
kelvinellaHi10:14
AdvocatedActionParsnip, thanks, will download and try that10:15
Blackshirtquixotedon, you should join backtrack channel for something related pentest wakakakaka10:15
kelvin911hi10:17
BlackshirtHi kelvin91110:17
icerootwhich ubuntu-version was the first hybrid-iso so that dd on a usb-drive worked? 11.10 or 12.04?10:17
kelvinellaHi Blackshirt10:18
ActionParsnipiceroot: 11.10 I believe.10:18
CaptObviousHi, I've been googling this for a while and haven't been able to find any fix - I'm running ubuntu server 12.04 and I'm experiencing really slow downloads with wget (about 400KB/s), that a windows 7 machine on the same switch gets 10MB/s+ - any ideas?10:18
icerootActionParsnip: ok10:18
CaptObviousthe ethernet controller on the machine is a Broadcom NetXtreme BCM572310:19
ActionParsnipCaptObvious: what network chip are you using>10:19
CaptObvious^10:19
ActionParsniphehe10:19
CaptObviousgreat minds think alike :P10:19
CaptObvioushttp://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1735584.html <- that's pretty much my exact setup10:20
CaptObviousexcept I'm not using one of those dodgy powerline links, it's microserver->gigabit switch->cable modem10:21
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jazzaxere: LibreOffice  -   I'm trying to sort by date ascending but the date order is sorted by day number ie 1st Jan and 1st feb are listed side-by-side and 30th Jan appears at bottom of the list.  What am I doing wrong?!10:21
dontknowwhat is the daemon config file in ubuntu?10:22
dontknowi mean where is it?10:22
dontknowwhat is the name10:22
BlackshirtDontknow, what you mean?10:22
icerootdontknow: you mean the xinetd?10:22
BlackshirtWhat daemon you mean?10:23
dontknowBlackshirt, iceroot, i mean, for example ufw, network etc... starts at baoot, where is the configuration file for that?10:23
dontknow*boot10:23
Mikey^dontknow: /etc/rc2.d/10:23
dontknowin arch it is in /etc/rc.conf for example10:24
BlackshirtDontknow, look at /etc/init or /etc/init.d10:24
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dontknowBlackshirt, Mikey^  but what file?10:25
dontknowi will give you example from arch10:25
llutzdontknow: there is no single file controlling this. look at http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/  to understand how upstart works10:25
BlackshirtDontknow, okey10:26
llutz!upstart | dontknow10:26
ubottudontknow: Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/10:26
dontknowin arch, it is in /etc/rc.conf, in rc.conf there is a daemon section like this DAEMON=(dbus, ufw, network, ......) where is that file in ubuntu?10:26
fastaItsMeLenny: where did you disable it exactly?10:26
CaptObviousno clues on my networking issue?10:26
Mikey^dontknow: /etc/init.d/rc10:26
Mikey^dontknow: we dont have that10:26
Mikey^dontknow: its based on the runlevel and the starting letter in /etc/rcN.d, where N is your runlevel10:27
dontknowMikey^, so what we have lol?10:27
belgianguyActionParsnip: thanks10:27
belgianguyIthink it's fixed now10:27
ActionParsnipbelgianguy: all ok now?10:27
Mikey^dontknow: take a look at /etc/init.d/rc10:27
belgianguyActionParsnip: yes :)10:27
llutzMikey^: its not runlevel based since upstart, its dependency driven10:27
fastaCaptObvious: wget downloads via http. You are testing wrong.10:28
Mikey^llutz: yeah, true10:28
llutz!runlevel10:28
ubottuIn Ubuntu all runlevels except 0,1 and 6 are by default equal. Also keep in mind that Ubuntu now uses !Upstart instead of System V init so there is normally no /etc/inittab.10:28
ActionParsnipbelgianguy: sweet, that gives 64bit flash for your 64bit OS :)10:28
fastaCaptObvious: use ftp for example or use some program designed to test network issues (don't know any of the top of my head, but they do exist)10:28
ItsMeLennyfasta, right click on the google video and go into "settings"10:28
BlackshirtDontknow, arch, i think adopt bsd style for init10:29
CaptObviousfasta - I'm downloading the same file via HTTP from my windows box and it's *much* faster10:29
CaptObviousso how am I testing wrong?10:29
dontknowMikey^, had a look at it i don't think it is what i seek10:29
Mikey^ok10:29
dontknowBlackshirt, i just want to be sure if preload starting at boot10:30
appi_uppican i upgrade my bios from version 1.04 to latest, i use acer aspire 553610:31
ActionParsnipappi_uppi: there may be a dos app, or you may need windows10:31
appi_uppiActionParsnip, i only run ubuntu10:32
fastaCaptObvious: because you should throw out all extra variables first.10:32
Bender_hello, any way to make ma 10.10 software center see the item in each category back again?10:32
fastaCaptObvious: perhaps all communication is slow.10:32
fastaCaptObvious: perhaps it's just your webserver.10:32
CaptObviouswhat's odd is local transfer is fine - just used iperf between 2 boxes on the local network and got 880mbit/s over gigabit10:33
fastaCaptObvious: in short, use the scientific method.10:33
CaptObvious*sigh*10:33
fastaCaptObvious: sigh what?10:33
CaptObviousI'm downloading the same file, from the same place with both boxes10:33
CaptObviousone is over 10MB/s, the other is 400kb/s10:33
fastaCaptObvious: now, so only now you can go on the next step.10:33
zallxcan i update ? can i upgrade ? can i install vdr or yavdr ? ifso how to help it from exiting with error becuz of xbmc-live ?.? o_010:33
fastaCaptObvious: the next step is to read the fine manual of your webserver.10:33
zallxapt10:33
ActionParsnipBender_: Maverick is EOL dude, there are no repos10:34
CaptObviousI don't control the webserver10:34
fastaCaptObvious: for someone named CaptObvious that shouldn't be so hard.10:34
CaptObviouslinode does10:34
zallxmaybe synaptic10:34
CaptObviousand the webserver is obviously fine if I can pull down 10MB/s from my windows machine10:34
fastaCaptObvious: ok, well, you didn't actually say that.10:34
CaptObviousI did, several times10:34
fastaCaptObvious: no, you didn't.10:35
fastaCaptObvious: it was ambiguous.10:35
CaptObviouswhich part are you referring to?10:35
fastaCaptObvious: anyway, it's now clear.10:35
zallxE: xbmc-live: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 210:35
fastaCaptObvious: wget by default tries to not attack a server either.10:35
zallxhow to fix subprocesses10:35
fastaCaptObvious: so, perhaps it also does this for just a single download.10:35
zallxanyone ?10:36
CaptObviousfasta - I would assume google chrome tries not to attack a server either10:36
fastaCaptObvious: so, you could still try a different protocol.10:36
CaptObviousbut okay10:36
fastaCaptObvious: i.e. try ftp.10:36
fastaCaptObvious: with e.g. filezilla.10:36
BlackshirtZallk, purge first, and then try reinstall10:36
CaptObviousfirst I need to find a large file on an FTP server10:36
zallxk thkx10:36
zallx!addbutton synaptic purge10:37
ubottuzallx: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)10:37
fastaCaptObvious: no, you just do cat /dev/urandom > mybigfile10:37
zallxlol10:37
CaptObviousfasta - that would be at the wrong end10:37
CaptObviousI'm experiencing slow downloads10:37
fastaCaptObvious: no, it wouldn't.10:37
fastaCaptObvious: you have to do that at the server of course.10:38
zallxBlackshirtBay whats the fastest way tobe watching tv on ur phone ?10:38
fastaCaptObvious: you don't have shell access?10:38
CaptObviousmy server is next to me10:38
CaptObviousit downloads slowly10:38
CaptObviousfrom the internet10:38
zallxand from lan ?10:38
fastaCaptObvious: you said it was on linode.10:38
fastaCaptObvious: you are really making no sense.10:38
CaptObviousno, linode host download speed files10:38
CaptObvioushttp://www.linode.com/speedtest/10:38
CaptObviouszallx - iperf throughput is fine on LAN10:39
fastaCaptObvious: I will stop playing this guess the question game. Next time you just write a coherent story on e.g. a paste site and then provide an URL to that.10:39
fastaCaptObvious: likely nobody has understood what exactly you said.10:40
zallxSetting up xbmc-live (2:11.0-pvr+p8~git20120428.6960449-0ubuntu1~stable75~oneiric) ...10:40
zallxsed: can't read /etc/uxlaunch/uxlaunch: No such file or directory10:40
zallxerror in configure with apt10:40
fastazallx: report it as a bug10:40
matonka007Hello, does anybody can help me?10:40
zallxlol10:40
CaptObviousI did write a coherent story10:40
fastaCaptObvious: no, you didn't.10:41
zallxits oneiric ... i dont have that i think10:41
CaptObviousI fail to see how it wasn't, but anyway10:41
quixotedonmatonka007: type your questions straight away.. :)10:41
CaptObviousftp is downloading now, but it doesn't give a realtime output10:41
CaptObviousso I need to wait until the file is done10:41
fastaCaptObvious: do you hear 5 people say that it was easy to understand?10:41
CaptObviousfasta - I see people reading multiple stories at once and making assumptions10:42
fastaCaptObvious: no, you don't. As such, it wasn't a coherent story.10:42
fastaCaptObvious: yes, because there is no coherent story.10:42
CaptObviousI mentioned "linode" once and then someone assumed that I said that my server was a linode, which I never said10:42
CaptObviousanyway, jesus, I'm not here for an argument, I'm here to get my problem solved10:42
fastaCaptObvious: which is an intelligent response.10:42
fastaCaptObvious: because it assumes that the information which is not specified is the most likely.10:42
matonka007I installed ubuntu 12.04 and after i have screen with,"out of range" and black screen with mouse, i cant do anything10:43
CaptObviousI mentioned linode directly after I said "I don't control the webserver"10:43
LjLfasta: yes, let's turn this place into a forum, with people pasting "stories" from URLs... no, that's not how it works ;)10:43
ActionParsnipmatonka007: whay video chip do you use?10:43
matonka007Nvidia10:43
ActionParsnipmatonka007: add the boot option: nouveau.blacklist=110:43
zallxbeheer@beheer-MS-7318:~$ vdr10:43
zallxvdr: can't access video directory /var/lib/video.0010:43
CaptObviousanyway, starting again: I'm experiencing slow download speeds (400KB/s) from the internet on an ubuntu server box, which a windows machine on the same network downloading the same file from the same place experiences over 10MB/s download speed.10:44
CaptObviousfasta - anything you'd like me to clarify there?10:44
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c0deMasterhow to permanently disable sound capturing?10:44
CaptObviousalso, the ethernet controller on the machine is a Broadcom NetXtreme BCM572310:44
matonka007I cant edit the boot option, because it shows my bios logo and after the, "out of range"10:45
celthunderc0deMaster: remove your sound card10:45
fastaExample: I am doing a speedtest on url linode.com/dontcare on Ubuntu 11.10 and Windows 7. On Windows 7 I get 100MB/s when using IE.exe and on Linux I get 400KB/s. My hardware is a <whatever you just said>10:45
CaptObviousI've tried using iperf between 2 local machines and the throughput is fine, it's just out to the internet that it has an issue10:45
CaptObviousfasta - that's what I just said, yes10:45
fastaCaptObvious: you should have said that the very first time.10:45
CaptObviousperhaps you need to write a web app with form fields and have people fill that out instead of conversing?10:45
CaptObviousyou could call it a "forum"10:45
CaptObviousyou'd lose the realtime aspect though, which would be a shame10:46
unkn-errorI have installed ubuntu IN a usb stick, with ext4 but it's running so slowww, why? If I make the stick with unetbootlin it is faster altrought it is running under some kind of "transparent decompression (squasfs)"? Can be ubuntu installed IN the stick and be faster like it is if I when it live FROM usb?10:46
CaptObviousanyway, the FTP transfer is still going, on the windows machine it would have finished by now10:46
celthunderCaptObvious: id much rather be in irc than on a forum.10:46
CaptObviouscelthunder - me too10:46
matonka007What i must do to edit boot preferences?10:47
fastaCaptObvious: apt-get install bwm-ng && bwm-ng10:47
fastaCaptObvious: does it confirm the slow download speed?10:47
LjLCaptObvious: for what is worth, your question seemed pretty coherent to me, perhaps not completely comprehensive but that's what asking stuff is for.10:47
CaptObviousLjL - thank you10:47
CaptObviousftp did 391.66KB/s10:48
fastaCaptObvious: you should also look at top and report whether it uses all yoru CPU.10:48
matonka007Sorry Im on android :-(10:49
matonka007I have the broken ubuntu infront of me10:49
fastaCaptObvious: you should also try to put another NIC in it if the CPU usage is low.10:49
CaptObvious400kb/s from the linode speed test site with wget, 2% CPU usage10:50
nlicimy computer does not read the Turkish subtitles when i watch film what do i have to do in order the computer does show the Turkish characters on the subtitles please advice me what to do  thanks in advance for your help10:50
CaptObviousI have no slots for another NIC, and I've just had windows on this machine and it was fine on there10:50
fastaCaptObvious: and you had fast lan speeds also from the Linux machine?10:50
CaptObviousyeah, I ran iperf and got 880mbit/sec through gigE10:51
fastaCaptObvious: perhaps you have some bandwidth limiter running?10:51
fastaCaptObvious: it might be that you had forgotten about that.10:51
CaptObviousnope, I've just wiped the machine and put ubuntu on it this morning.  it had windows 7 on it before and was fine10:51
CaptObviousso there's no limit at the router level10:51
khmerogwhats everyones favorite movie?10:51
fastaCaptObvious: also try a different speedtest website.10:52
khmerogopps.. sorry wrong chat room10:52
CaptObviousI've tried setting the MTU too, tried 1492 and 150010:52
CaptObviousno dice10:52
matonka007Please help me :'(10:52
adiliam new to linux & i have installed ubuntu 12.04 on my pc10:53
CaptObviousfasta - I've tried 4 or 5 now, the maximum I've seen after setting the MTU to 1500 is 700KB/s10:53
CaptObvious(for reference, my connection tops out at 12.5MB/s)10:53
adiland installed mysql how to start it run my commands ,so help me10:53
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CaptObviousadil - mysql -u root -p10:54
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CaptObviousthen it'll ask for the root password that you specified during the mysql install10:54
nlicimy computer does not read the Turkish subtitles when i watch film what do i have to do in order the computer does show the Turkish characters on the subtitles please advice me what to do  thanks in advance for your help10:54
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matonka007I have blackscreen after install ubuntu 12.04, anybody can help? Thanks10:54
adilthank you10:55
CaptObviousmatonka007 - are you using an HDTV as a monitor for the machine?10:55
CaptObviousI ask because I am too and mine doesn't support whichever resolution is used between POST and the framebuffer kicking in10:56
CaptObviousso you may have to hook it up to a normal monitor to sort it out10:56
fastaCaptObvious: you could try making a tunnel connection to your windows machine and internet via that.10:56
fastaCaptObvious: oh, sorry you didn't have two machines.10:57
matonka007I have led LG 1920*168010:57
CaptObviousfasta - that'd defeat the object of this box.  I might have to give up and just put windows back on it10:57
CaptObviousI do, I just have this microserver so my desktop doesn't have to be on all the time10:57
fastaCaptObvious: I meant just as a test; it sounds kind of ridiculous.10:57
matonka007Now i see the login screen with my name10:57
CaptObviousthat's good then matonka00710:57
CaptObviousit sounds like your TV doesn't support the resolution that it's using for the console10:58
CaptObviousfasta - my other machine is a windows machine so it'll take a bit of fudging to get an SSH tunnel through to it10:58
CaptObvioussomething to try after I've slept I think10:58
fastaCaptObvious: otherwise I am out of ideas. If your LAN works, then your Internet should also work at that speed.10:58
CaptObvioushmm10:58
matonka007What I must do now? When i login it shows the black screen again10:58
fastaCaptObvious: I know one other test.10:59
CaptObviousmatonka007 - plug it into a proper monitor10:59
fastaCaptObvious: you could start multiple speed tests at the same time.10:59
CaptObviousin /etc/network/interfaces I have it set as static, what's the "network" parameter for?  I have it set to 10.0.0.010:59
CaptObviousfasta - ah, to see if it's a per-connection issue?10:59
fastaCaptObvious: ok, it might be another thing.10:59
matonka007Im now logged in into the Ubuntu 2D :-)10:59
fastaCaptObvious: you should set your IP address manually to the right address.10:59
fastaCaptObvious: or set it via DHCP.11:00
CaptObviousit is set to the right address11:00
fastaCaptObvious: if you set it to the same address as your windows machine, you get a nightmware.11:00
matonka007I must install the drivers?11:00
fastaCaptObvious: which address is it?11:00
fastaCaptObvious: and which address does your windows machine have?11:00
fastaCaptObvious: if you think 'dude, I really know that', just say that.11:00
fastaCaptObvious: otherwise go with the parallel speed test.11:01
CaptObviousthe microserver is 10.0.0.3, static11:01
CaptObviousthe desktop is 82.18.59.209 DHCP11:01
CaptObviousDHCP range is 100-19911:01
fastaCaptObvious: huh11:01
fastaCaptObvious: then they are not on the same lan.11:01
matonka007The Nvidia drivers is already instaled, where is the problem?11:01
CaptObviousyeah they are, same subnet11:01
fastaCaptObvious: 82.18 is your external IP11:02
CaptObviousokay, I'm getting 1-2MB/s running 2 in parallel11:02
fastaCaptObvious: the Windows machine must also have an address like 10.0.0.X.11:02
CaptObviousit is11:02
CaptObvious82.18.59.20911:02
fastaCaptObvious: no.11:02
fastaCaptObvious: that's your external address.11:02
CaptObviousno, that's my internal address11:02
CaptObviousmy external IP is 82.18....11:03
LjLCaptObvious: err, that's what you pasted11:03
CaptObviousLjL - huh?11:03
fastaCaptObvious: coherent story... please11:03
CaptObviousfasta - I don't think your questions make sense11:03
fastaCaptObvious: 82.* is not an internal address.11:03
CaptObvious<fasta> CaptObvious: and which address does your windows machine have?11:03
LjLCaptObvious: you pasted 82.18.59.209, which really looks like an external address, and you just confirmed it11:03
CaptObviousdid you mean internal or external?11:03
CaptObviousI didn't paste anything11:04
fastaCaptObvious: 10.* looks like an internal address.11:04
CaptObviousit *is*11:04
CaptObviousright, stop11:04
fastaCaptObvious: 82.* is NOT11:04
CaptObviousI know this11:04
CaptObviousjust stop11:04
CaptObviousyou asked: <fasta> CaptObvious: and which address does your windows machine have?11:04
fastaCaptObvious: you didn't say that.11:04
CaptObviousdid you mean internal or external?11:04
FloodBot1CaptObvious: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.11:04
fastaCaptObvious: internal of course.11:05
CaptObviousand I answered with internal IPs11:05
CaptObvious<CaptObvious> the microserver is 10.0.0.3, static11:05
CaptObvious<CaptObvious> the desktop is 82.18.59.209 DHCP11:05
fastaCaptObvious: no... you did not.11:05
CaptObviousscroll up11:05
CaptObviousand look11:05
fastaCaptObvious: 82.* is not an internal address.11:05
CaptObviousfasta - you were the first one to even type 82.*11:05
LjLCaptObvious: [13:02:35] <CaptObvious> 82.18.59.209 [13:02:50] <fasta> CaptObvious: that's your external address. [13:02:59] <CaptObvious> no, that's my internal address11:05
fastaCaptObvious: no, I was not.11:06
CaptObviousone second11:06
fastaCaptObvious: I wrote the literal string 82.* first.11:06
CaptObviousyes, one second11:06
fastaCaptObvious: but it expands to your IP address obviously.11:06
fastaCaptObvious: as such, you introduced a string of text starting with 82 first.11:07
spacebug-can anyone tell me what the plus signs comes from? http://pastebin.com/1PnwNU8v   they have not always been there when using sv_SE.UTF-8  If I use 'date +%c' they are not there.11:07
fastaFor someone named CaptObvious lots isn't obvious to you.11:07
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CaptObvioushow many times do I need to say "one second"?11:07
CaptObvioushttp://i.imgur.com/Zp8bt.png11:07
CaptObviousthat's a screenshot of that section of my IRC client11:07
LjLCaptObvious: ... that's not what we saw.11:07
zallxso vdr where are we ?11:08
CaptObviousyeah, that's what's confusing me11:08
CaptObviousI haven't even had my external IP in my clipboard11:08
fastaCaptObvious: then how come that we have it?11:09
matonka007I can login only to ubuntu 2D :-(11:09
CaptObviousI have no idea :(11:09
CaptObviousthat's quite worrying11:09
zallxanyone know about vdr and howto ?11:09
fastaCaptObvious: perhaps you should go to a mental institution?11:09
LjLfasta: that's uncalled for11:09
CaptObviousfasta - the screenshot clearly showed I didn't put my external IP into the channel11:09
zallxfasta: thank u ... allready in one11:09
CaptObviouswhen you guys saw it11:09
fastaCaptObvious: no, it does not.11:10
fastaCaptObvious: you said it earlier.11:10
crazypeteI'm looking for a lightweight texteditor that has no menu or other clutter in fullscreen mode. Anyone know something like that?11:10
fastaCaptObvious: at <your hour>:0211:10
CaptObviousI don't have timestamps on11:10
fastacrazypete: emacs can do that :)11:10
CaptObviousbut you have it directly before me saying "no, that's my internal address"11:10
CaptObviouswhich is on that screenshot11:10
fastaCaptObvious: I am going to go with either mental or trolling now.11:11
fastaCaptObvious: you have had your chance.11:11
CaptObviousneither, I'm genuinely confused.11:11
crazypetefasta, but it is the opposite of lightweight11:11
CaptObviousanyway, it doesn't really matter that much11:11
fastacrazypete: I disagree.11:11
crazypeteI try to remove the menu in leafpad but no luck11:11
fastacrazypete: try to start it emacs -nw11:11
CaptObviousthe internal IPs are right, they're on the same subnet11:11
fastacrazypete: it stars crazy fast11:12
fastacrazypete: you just have to disable a few things.11:12
fastacrazypete: like the display of the menu bar, etc.11:12
fastacrazypete: I run it exactly like you describe.11:12
LjLCaptObvious: perhaps you have an auto-replace in mIRC for those IPs, for some reason?11:12
crazypetefasta, apt says it is huge! :)11:13
fastacrazypete: alias nano='emacs -nw' here11:13
CaptObviousLjL - do you mind pastebinning your log please?11:13
feezeI'm trying to install a package from a repo that I added to my sources.list file, but apt-get keeps trying to install an older version from the ubuntu repos.  how do I specify that I want the newer version from the added repo?11:13
fastacrazypete: nano was my previous command for a quick edit.11:13
CaptObviousmaybe if I see the conversation from your side I can see why fasta seems to be so angry with me11:13
fastacrazypete: do you want something that runs in X?11:13
crazypetefasta, I would prefere that11:14
fastacrazypete: well, Emacs also runs in X.11:14
fastacrazypete: otherwise gedit.11:14
fastacrazypete: gedit and kate are sort of for people who don't want to learn a real editor.11:14
forevergloryhello every11:15
LjLCaptObvious: http://paste.ubuntu.com/997178/ - the logs will also appear in about 45 minutes on http://irclogs.ubuntu.com11:15
kevinheyup11:15
CaptObviousthanks LjL11:15
crazypetefasta, I am one of those people I guess11:15
fastacrazypete: are you just a user or an aspiring developer?11:15
crazypeteHow do I kill bottom stuff and menu in fullscreen emacs. Started it wit -nv11:15
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kevinjust trying out artistx11:16
CaptObviousLjL - what IP do you see here?  82.18.59.20911:16
crazypeteI'm writing oldfashion c11:16
LjLCaptObvious: 82.18.59.20911:16
fastacrazypete: for C, you can better get some real IDE.11:16
LjLCaptObvious: are you using a bouncer (irc proxy) by any chance?11:16
CaptObviousnope, but mIRC might auto-translate it11:16
CaptObviousLjL - http://i.imgur.com/Y7I98.png11:16
fastaCaptObvious: also friends don't let other friends use mIRC.11:16
LjLCaptObvious: would be weird, but i guess it's possible11:16
matanya_how can I make outgoing calls using empathy on ubuntu with my own sip server?incoming calls work well11:17
CaptObviousfasta - after how you've treated me today I wouldn't really call you a friend11:17
crazypeteemacs is even worse. now I need to remove both its clutter and the clutter of lxterm11:17
fastaCaptObvious: uhm, I put more time in you than anyone else here.11:17
CaptObviousyou spent a lot of it berating me for something I had no control over11:17
CaptObviousbut yeah11:17
fastacrazypete: Emacs is not worse.11:17
fastacrazypete: you just don't want to learn how it works.11:18
fastacrazypete: which is OK, but Emacs is a GREAT editor.11:18
chucrazypete: If you're willing to give it some time, I could PM you how to use it.11:18
fastacrazypete: in #emacs they want to answer your questions.11:18
lJ6ilHello there. I'm under Ubuntu and i installed vim-scripts package. I'd like to activate supertab plugin. How can i do this? Adding a line in .vimrc ?11:19
fastacrazypete: but you should do C-h t first, I think.11:19
fastacrazypete: that starts the basic tutorial.11:19
LjLCaptObvious: i don't have a Windows machine handy to test this on. a cursory Google search of "mIRC translate internal IP" didn't show much. if i were you, i'd test this with another client, i don't like the looks of this11:19
CaptObviousLjL - yeah, I was googling it too11:20
CaptObviousI also asked in dalnet #mirc11:20
CaptObviousbut that's a *stupid* feature if it is one11:20
LjLagreed11:20
CaptObviousbut to be honest, I'm hoping it is an mIRC feature11:20
LjLCaptObvious: it might be done to facilitate DCC transfers, but i don't see why it would happen outside of one11:20
CaptObviousif it's not mIRC doing it then I have bigger issues :P11:20
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ActionParsnipCaptObvious: do native apps work ok?11:21
CaptObviousActionParsnip - sorry?11:21
LjLActionParsnip, he's on Windows. he was asking about something else, then he experienced something strange11:22
ActionParsnipCaptObvious: mirc is a windows irc client...do the irc clients available in the software centre ok, like xchat, pidgin etc11:22
ActionParsnipLjL: windows? shouldn't that be in ##windows ...11:22
LjLActionParsnip: namely when he pastes his internal IP in here, the external one shows up instead11:22
CaptObviousActionParsnip - I'm in here for a different issue11:22
LjLActionParsnip: that wasn't his original question. we got sidetracked by this strange occurrence.11:23
CaptObviousthis one just cropped up in the mean time11:23
CaptObviousanyway, back to my original issue - concurrent downloads seem to get 400-700KB/s each11:23
CaptObviouswhich is odd, it seems to be a limit per connection11:23
fastaCaptObvious: so, now don't use wget, but use something else.11:23
CaptObviousI tried with ftp too, same deal11:23
fastaCaptObvious: e.g. curl or an actual browser.11:24
CaptObviousfrom a different server11:24
CaptObviouswell, as far as an actual browser goes, I have lynx I suppose :P11:24
fastaCaptObvious: you could also get rid of the router in between, btw.11:25
CaptObviousif the router was the issue, the windows box would be suffering too11:25
fastaCaptObvious: I know what you said before and still it could be the issue.11:25
fastaCaptObvious: you only know for 99.8% sure that it's not that.11:25
fastaCaptObvious: not 100%.11:25
fastaStatistics made up, as usual.11:26
CaptObviouslynx is doing 470KB/s11:26
ikoniaCaptObvious: what network card is in your linux machine ?11:26
fastaikonia: read the backlog11:27
CaptObviousbroadcom BCM572311:27
mosnoum, how do i delete a launcher from the gnome classic panel?11:27
CaptObviousthere's a lot of backlog, most of it not relavent11:27
ikoniaCaptObvious: have you considered that the kernel module for the BCM card is just "weak" as it's reverse engineered ?11:27
ikonia(in comparison to the Windows native driver)11:27
CaptObviousikonia - I did think that, but I tried l11:28
CaptObviousiperf*11:28
CaptObviousbetween 2 machines on the lan, it puts 880mbit/s through11:28
ikoniaCaptObvious: so on your lan you get solid performance ?11:28
CaptObviousit seems so, I don't have samba or anything set up yet, it's a clean install11:28
CaptObviousjust throwing up IIS now so I can try an HTTP transfer11:29
ikoniaCaptObvious: so you only experience a weaker performance with requests out onto the public internet11:29
CaptObviousit appears so at the moment11:29
D[4]niwhen i try to load the equalizer plugin for rhythmbox, it tells me this: http://pastebin.com/y4BqVQFB11:29
D[4]nihow to fix that? :<11:30
ikoniaCaptObvious: just thinking, I'll be with you in a moment or two11:31
CaptObviousyep, LAN HTTP transfer is putting through 21MB/s11:31
CaptObviouswhich is slower than I'd like, but I can live with that11:31
ikoniaCaptObvious: curious test, do a traceroute to goolge.com or something like that, is there one hop that is obviously slower/where slow down begins11:32
D[4]nimeh. "ERROR:root:Could not find any typelib for GConf" seems to be a common error11:33
zallxhow do i add ? ppa:hotzenplotz5/ppa  ?11:33
CaptObviousdoes wget save to a temporary location before moving the completed file to the location you specified to the download or does it just write straight to the destination file?11:33
ikoniaCaptObvious: think it writes to $cwd/$name.tmp than commits to $cwd/$name11:33
zallxCaptObvious: in first execution cycle everything gets writing and send11:33
CaptObviousright, because I'm saving to /dev/null, so disk speed won't be a factor11:34
zallxhow do i add ? ppa:hotzenplotz5/ppa  ?11:34
ikoniaCaptObvious: try the traceroute test, I'm curious to if there is anything obvious11:34
D[4]nizallx, apt-add-repository11:35
CaptObviouszalbisser - sudo add-apt-repository ppa:hotzenplotz511:35
CaptObviousikonia - nothing unusual on the traceroute11:35
zvacetzallx: see http://blog.launchpad.net/ppa/how-to-add-a-ppa-to-ubuntu11:35
zallxnothing but the fact they changed utp with modcable ... nomore own router incoming call divertions11:35
zallxnot a key ID: skipping11:36
MaxDeMoNgood morning i'm a beginner in ubuntu and need a simple and easy why to install postfix server i have noip domain :)11:37
zvacetzallx:  can xou give link of that ppa11:37
zallxhttp://blog.mymediasystem.net/avchd/hdtv-with-karmic-koala/11:37
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zvacetzallx:  karmic is not supported any more11:38
zallxi know im oneiric11:38
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zallxbut cant seem to add that what they say in that link11:38
CaptObviousI've got it up to around about 1MB/s by dropping the txqueuelen to 011:38
ikoniaCaptObvious: so is performance poor from hop one i na traceroute11:38
CaptObviousikonia - nope, all hops are fine11:39
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zallxtoken ring11:39
ikoniaCaptObvious: ok, so performance in the routing to destination is good, just the actual data transfer is poor, correct11:39
CaptObviouscorrect11:39
ikoniainteresting11:39
CaptObviousit bursts at about 1MB/s, then drops down slowly and hovers at 500kb/s or so11:39
zvacetzallx: did you tried with adding line in source list replace karmic with oneiric11:40
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MaxDeMoNgood morning i'm a beginner in ubuntu and need a simple and easy why to install postfix server i have noip domain :)11:41
mosnowhy can't i see gnote or rhythmbox in my GNOME Classic notifcation area?11:41
ikoniaMaxDeMoN: open the package manager, search for postfix, click install11:41
SolarisBoyare you going to use it locally MaxDeMoN ? installing it easy11:41
shawny78Anyone here setup an SSH 'VPN' Tunnel?    I can get to the point where I can reach my SSH servers IPs but I can't reach the routers that are connected to it11:41
SolarisBoysimply apt-get install it, or whatever is comfortable11:41
zallxk thkx zvacet11:42
MaxDeMoNSolarisBoy,  locally and i wanna receive email from external providers too :) thanx11:42
zallxsudo apt-add-repository ppa:hotzenplotz5/ppa11:42
SolarisBoyshawny78: you mean a tunnel? ssh -L port:<ip>:port user@host11:42
MaxDeMoNSolarisBoy,  i have a domain name from noip free and i can set MX line on it11:43
SolarisBoyMaxDeMoN hmm - ISPs generally block port 25 - but ok11:43
SolarisBoyMaxDeMoN:  ahh ok - so your setup to receive you saying?11:43
shawny78Solaris: that is it.  only the how-to I was following was saying use ssh -w 0:0 user@host11:43
deejay31Oh yes, I finished migrating my stuff from centos to ubuntu11:43
dontknowusing ati mobility hd2400 with official ati driver, it gives poor video quality, i mean videos hang, with open source driver i had no problem. i tried every output it just hang out11:43
MaxDeMoNSolarisBoy,  yes  i wanna receive my email in something like that xxx@host.noip.org ... !11:44
razvan86hi... does ubuntu have support for digital pens ?11:44
dontknowdo you have suggestions for me?11:44
SolarisBoywell if they aren't blocking and that IP postfix is running is available to the net directly or via translation11:44
MaxDeMoNSolarisBoy,  or i must buy a domain?11:44
SolarisBoythen it should work11:44
SolarisBoyif you have a domain - you need an MX11:44
SolarisBoyand that MX should point to your "postfix" if thats what you want handling mail for your domain11:45
MaxDeMoNSolarisBoy,  yes i have noip domain and i can set MX line11:45
CaptObviousyou could just go the easy route, buy a cheap domain and use google apps :P11:45
SolarisBoyyea thats way easier11:45
SolarisBoyheh11:45
MaxDeMoNyou have a link for that ? pls :11:45
CaptObviousI'm sure you can find google apps through google11:45
SolarisBoyMaxDeMoN: just register your domain with google apps or if you have one already subscribe to google apps11:45
SolarisBoyits automagic11:45
SolarisBoyonce its verified the mail works - you just need to create users at your domain11:46
MaxDeMoNgoople apps?11:46
SolarisBoyshawn78 needs more info on your goal11:46
CaptObviousthen you don't need to run your own mail server or worry about your residential internet connection going down11:46
MaxDeMoNsorry but i dont understand   think i just need to install postfix and configurate11:46
SolarisBoymean while im going to look at the manpage as im not familiar with -w 0:011:46
D[4]nimeh. can't find a working equalizer for rhythmbox. one fail to load, one  doesn't even show up in the plugins list11:46
scottjwhat is the name of the feature that lets you navigate and run comands in the menus by typing the names of the entries?11:47
shawny78Here is the link I was following --->   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH_VPN11:47
scottjits some new unity type thing11:47
SolarisBoyahh i see - it forwards from a tunnel device to another - shawny78 do you have actually two VPN tunnels?11:47
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gwd_Please help me. I'm using fresh installed 12.04 but, no sound. It shows "dummy output" in sound config.11:49
SolarisBoyexcuse thats incorrect - two seperate machines with a tunnel interface? shawny7811:49
shawny78The tunnel interface sets up fine.  I can ping both via internal IPs, I just can't reach out past the ssh server11:49
SolarisBoyok11:50
shawny78... I guess 'both' in this case is the ssh client and ssh server.11:51
SolarisBoyshawny78: you are using -w 0:0 have you tried any:any ? The devices may be specified by numerical ID or the keyword “any”11:51
MaxDeMoNSolarisBoy,  google apps is not free  :P me im searching to get it for free :D postfix11:51
gwd_Someone... help me please. I can't hear sound from 12.04.11:51
SolarisBoyMaxDeMoN: so your telling me im not using a free subscription right now for www.aaronpsamuel.com?11:51
SolarisBoybecause i am11:51
SolarisBoy..11:51
NSAgentMaxDeMoN: There is a free version11:51
SolarisBoythey don't make it very obvious - but it's there11:52
dontknowanyone here using ATI card with closed source river? videos are lagging, not smooth.11:52
dontknow*driver11:52
SolarisBoyMaxDeMoN: this has nothing to do with postfix anymore by the way =)11:52
SolarisBoyso don't scour the search with it11:52
ActionParsnipgwd_: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh11:52
usr13dontknow:  Better stick with OS driver.11:52
MaxDeMoNSolarisBoy,  maybe i'm a begigner so try to explain me easly LOL :D11:53
SolarisBoyMaxDeMoN: one second11:53
NSAgentMaxDeMoN: http://www.google.com/enterprise/apps/business/pricing.html11:53
NSAgentClick the free one.11:53
SolarisBoygrr11:53
SolarisBoyi was going to use lmgtfy11:53
dontknowusr13, ati drivers gives better 3d performance11:53
SolarisBoyhaha11:53
usr13dontknow: than ____________ ?11:53
dontknowusr13, i am looking for a solution to solve video lagging, thats the only problem that i have11:54
usr13dontknow: Never mind.  Bottom line, to me, is that Nvidia usually is a better choice, (mostly because the driver issues are a bit less problematic).11:55
usr13dontknow: What display adapter is it?  Is it on-board?11:55
dontknowusr13, i know. i cant change laptop gpu. using mobility hd240011:56
usr13dontknow: How much ram?11:56
dontknowusr13, for gpu 12811:56
George_CalawayHello, is possible to mount VHD file in Ubuntu as normal HDD (like WIndows 7) ?11:56
usr13dontknow: How much physical RAM do you have in your system?11:57
dontknowusr13, 2gb11:57
MaxDeMoNNSAgent,  thanx ^^ but as i said to SolarisBoy  i'm a begigner and really i dont understand what are you talkinf forr :D i wanna just try to install a postfix server to try send and reception emails  by using my domain xxx.noip.org :D11:57
usr13dontknow:  What Desktop Enviornment are you using?11:57
CaptObviousnew information regarding my download issue11:57
dontknowusr13, cinnamon11:57
CaptObviousI'm filing it under /dontcare11:57
NSAgentMaxDeMoN: Have you read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix ?11:57
CaptObvioussabnzbd is maxing out my connection which is all I was worried about, so happy for now11:57
dontknowusr13, but it doesn2t matter when using unity11:58
D[4]niGeorge_Calaway, http://bit.ly/JtXmat11:58
dontknowusr13, it also happens in unity11:58
MaxDeMoNNSAgent,  no but i will  now :D thanx ^^11:58
usr13dontknow: You might see how it works with xfce11:58
IdleOne!lmgtfy | D[4]ni11:58
ubottuD[4]ni: While Google is useful for helpers, many newer users don't have the google-fu yet. Please don't tell people to "google it" when they ask a question.11:58
dontknowusr13, i believe it wouldn't matter11:59
gwd_ActionParsnip: This is my output >> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=0d671aa52bc3d2d646265aefffbdf467f627446111:59
usr13dontknow: You may be right.11:59
killeri get this message too much "internal error occured".....may be pangolin is not yet stable enough11:59
D[4]niIdleOne, doesn't that help "newer users" to start googling things?11:59
usr13dontknow: What CPU is it?12:00
zallxprecise ?12:00
IdleOneD[4]ni: no, lmgtfy links are rude and insulting, if you want to provide a link give a direct link to the solution.12:00
ActionParsnipgwd_: if you run: alsamixer    are all levels cranked and unmuted?12:00
D[4]nithat's your opinion.12:00
LjLD[4]ni: and it's the opinion of a channel op, so please respect it12:00
dontknowusr13, amd turionx2 using 64 bit ubuntu12:00
D[4]niwho should know he's an op when he doesn't have the @?12:01
D[4]niand just started coming to this channel?12:01
IdleOneD[4]ni: assume we are all ops12:01
gwd_ActionParsnip: Not all. Master, Master M and PCM can ... others no.12:01
dontknowusr13, but videos were lagging in 32 bit too12:01
LjLD[4]ni: you know it's not just his opinion when an ubottu factoid is given to you, for starters.12:01
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ActionParsnipgwd_: my sound troubleshooting sucks, that link is handy though12:01
dontknowusr13, i will try with vlc player now12:02
usr13dontknow: Wish I had some advise for you, but I really can't think of anything ATM.  Maybe someone else here will have something for you.  I have to go now.12:02
dontknowusr13, ok12:02
usr13dontknow: Good luck.  (And maybe someone else is following this thread and will have an idea...)12:02
gwd_Anyway, thanks for helping me, ActionParsnip .12:02
zallxi follow u12:05
gwd_ActionParsnip: I found "Dummy Output" in my sound settings. What's that?12:06
atleeubuntu having a lot of server issues?12:06
mosnoguys, i have a broken notification area in gnome classic. xchat shows fine, but gnote's icon is like a 1px wide slit. rhythmbox isn't to be seen. i can add another instance of notification area applet to no avail. rebooting doesn't work either. any ideas?12:08
mosno12.04 LTS i38612:08
atleemosno try booting into another DE12:08
mosnoatlee, it works in GNOME Shel12:08
mosnoUnity doesn't even load anymore not sure what's up with it12:09
atleehave you tryed MATE desktop?12:09
mosnoatlee, that's a sweet idea, i completely forgot about that12:09
atleetheir is a terminal command to reset unity panels12:09
auronandacethere12:09
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ActionParsnipmosno: tried Unity2D session12:09
mosnoi actually don't mind gnome classic, except for this one stupid issue12:09
mosnoActionParsnip, that has it's own problems12:10
atleegoto terminal for a sec12:10
mosnoyep12:10
mosnoatlee, i'm not in unity i'm in gnome classic12:10
zallxits has problems installing ... it has problems compiling12:10
atleethen login as root12:10
mosnoatlee, yep12:10
atleewell use this for when you login to unity12:10
atleeunity --reset12:10
atleeunity --reset-icons12:10
gwd_Someone please help me fix no sound problem on 12.04.12:11
mosnoatlee, ok. but any idea about my gnome classic notification area?12:11
gwd_This is my alsa output >> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=0d671aa52bc3d2d646265aefffbdf467f627446112:11
atleeif compiz is the cause then12:11
atleegconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/compiz-112:11
atleegconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/compizconfig-112:11
auronandacegwd_: screenshot of alsamixer12:11
mosnoatlee, i'm not using compiz12:11
atleethen do unity --reset12:11
mosnoatlee, gnome classic, no effects12:11
atleego get MATE as it's a really superb gnome 2 replacement :D12:12
mosnoatlee, maybe if i can't fix this one issue12:12
mosnoatlee, i try and avoid 3rd party repos if i can12:13
atleegwd goto your settings and switch to another audio hardware device12:13
atleemosno extra repos are awsome12:13
ActionParsnipmosno: its not supoprted here, I suggest you advise XFCE12:13
auronandaceatlee: and unsupported12:13
mosnoatlee, non-broken software is even better12:14
atleeas long as you know what the package you are installing does and how to safely remove it if needed12:14
mosnoi might see if all users are affected, one second12:14
gwd_auronandace: Here is my alsamixer screenshot >> http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/2510/screenshotfrom201205202.png12:14
atleemosmo try changing themes to see if icons change and refresh12:15
mosnops. audio is hillarious... i do Switch User and sound stops, then i login on tty1 and it starts again12:15
mosnoie. text login12:15
auronandacegwd_: a few things are muted there, not sure if they affect what you are trying to do12:16
atleesound and graphics, wireless are all very hardware-to-hardware basis on if it works or if it doesn't and it also comes down to if the hardware is built into the kernel or not12:16
gwd_auronandace: How can I unmute them?12:17
auronandacegwd_: select them and press m12:17
auronandacegwd_: see the MM? that means muted12:17
gwd_Yes auronandace .. But, when I press M on them .. it just changed to "00" and can't go up the level.12:18
TangoGoldhttp://www.sexy-natalie.com/?uid=69367 your welcome lol12:19
auronandacegwd_: when they change to 00 that means they are active12:19
gwd_How can I change the level when they are active, auronandace ... I can't press up arrow to change the level.12:20
auronandacegwd_: does the bar go up or down?12:20
gwd_auronandace: I can't up the bar.12:21
gwd_There is no bar on them at all. Just change to "00", auronandace12:21
auronandacegwd_: some of them have bars, some of them don't need bars12:22
gwd_okay .. I have activated all of them (changed them "00") ... but, still no sound, auronandace .12:23
auronandacegwd_: not sure what to suggest sorry12:24
gwd_auronandace: You might want to see my sound settings "Dummy Output" .. >> http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/5638/screenshotfrom201205202g.png12:25
gwd_I think I should see a sound card name.12:25
auronandacegwd_: hmm, odd, sorry i can't help further12:26
gwd_ok ... thanks for helping me.12:26
shawny78Can anyone suggest a softphone for Ubuntu that will run the H.323 protocol?12:27
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Dr_Willis!info ekiga12:29
ubottuekiga (source: ekiga): H.323 and SIP compatible VoIP client. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.3.2-0ubuntu3 (precise), package size 8641 kB, installed size 19305 kB12:29
shawny78Well, there we go.  Thank you Dr!12:30
Dr_Willissoftare center may show others12:30
g0thhi12:36
eXtensehi, maybe you can help me. Since about a month I get some errors while checking for updates. You can see the message here: http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/408412/ maybe you could help me fixing this issue?12:36
g0thwhen I try to upgrade ubuntu to 12.04 it doesn't do anything12:37
g0thit is downloading 2 files but doesn't proceed with the upgrade12:37
Dr_Willis!natty | eXtense12:37
ubottueXtense: Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal) was the fourteenth release of Ubuntu. Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.04/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/110412:37
samba35ok so i am not only one who face this problem12:37
Dr_Willisid say switch servers.. natty is not eol yet i think12:37
g0thThis usually is caused by a system where /tmp is mounted noexec. Please remount without noexec and run the upgrade again.12:38
g0thwhy is exec needed for tmp?12:38
Dr_Willisto run the executable  update tools...12:38
g0thfor me noexec seems to make sense12:38
g0thon /tmp12:38
g0thanyway, I never changed it12:38
Dr_Willissee wht mount command says about it.12:38
g0thwhy would you want to execute anything from /tmp?12:39
eXtensei already wondered about the "natty" in the link. but I don't know why these servers are in my repositorys? i added nothing and they seem to be unreachable since over one month. how can i delete them?12:39
CaptObviousthey really need to add parallel fetching of packages to apt12:39
Dr_Willisthe installer update tool downloads the updated executables to tmp and runs them from there.. is how i would guess its working12:39
g0thok12:39
g0thhow do I remount without noexec?12:39
Colonel-RosaThis has probably been said, but the release.ubuntu domain is very slow over in England12:40
Dr_Willischeck your fstab entry for tmp  and see what options its using12:40
Dr_Willismost people dont use a seperate /tmp12:40
g0thok I did mount -o remount exec /tmp12:40
g0thwas that ok?12:40
Colonel-Rosa40KiB/s12:40
Dr_Willischeck mount command and see how its mounted then12:40
CaptObviousDr_Willis - I use tempfs for /tmp12:40
futurist#arduino12:40
g0thI use tmpfs12:41
g0thwell not me but the installer12:41
g0thI never touched any of those settings12:41
Dr_Willisdisable the use of tmpfs then perhaps.12:41
SilverStar_Is possible to attach the VHD file in Ubuntu as normal HDD (like windows 7) ??12:41
g0thI just removed the noexec from fstab12:41
g0thand to get it running now (without reboot) I did mount -o remount exec /tmp12:41
Dr_WillisSilverStar_:  i think theres vhd to raw converteres.12:41
CaptObviousSilverStar_ - for the millionth time, it's the first hit on google if you google "mount vhd ubuntu"12:41
Dr_Willis!info vdfuse12:43
ubottuPackage vdfuse does not exist in precise12:43
SilverStar_CaptObvious -> I search it, but  I only found info about Virtualbox etc.12:43
Dr_Willis!find vdfuse12:43
ubottuFile vdfuse found in virtualbox-dbg, virtualbox-fuse12:43
Dr_Willisvhd can work with vdfuse or so i just read.12:44
Dr_Willisfrom man vdfuse -->  -t     specify type (VDI, VMDK, VHD, or raw; default: auto)12:44
SilverStar_O,, thanks :)12:44
Dr_Willishttp://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/natty/man1/vdfuse.1.html12:45
Dr_WillisYou can use vmware-mount provided by VMWare Server.12:45
csioktelHi, i'm new to ufw, i want to know where is the ufw save rules path?12:52
csioktelis it ufw will automatic save the rules for next boot?12:53
pavel_#Ubuntu-cz12:54
sa7elakHello, how to to know how long the system have been running ???13:00
icerootsa7elak: uptime13:00
sa7elak<iceroot> thanks13:01
_16aR_Hello13:11
_16aR_Is it possible to change the hash algorithm of an already existing pgp / gpg key ?13:11
_16aR_Mine is actually SHA1, and I want to use SHA2 instead without regenerating a new key13:11
CJKayHas anyone had any luck getting Sun Java 6 (not 7) installed on Precise 12.04?13:12
Dr_WillisCJKay:  ive heard it works.. but never really tried.13:12
CJKayHeard it works? Where have these people even got it from? D:13:13
Dr_WillisI thoght the !java factoid said13:13
Dr_Willislets see..13:13
Dr_Willis!java13:13
ubottuTo just use java you need a "Java Runtime Environment" (JRE) and/or a browser plugin. If that is not sufficient you will need a "Java Development Kit" (JDK) aka "Software  Development Kit" (SDK).  Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java about how to install one of three current implementations.13:13
Dr_WillisInstall the openjdk-6-jre package using any installation method.13:13
Dr_Willishttps://github.com/flexiondotorg/oab-java613:14
CJKayI need specifically Sun's Java 6 implementation13:14
Dr_WillisNo idea then.  wget http://download.oracle.com/otn-pub/java/jdk/6u31-b04/jre-6u31-linux-i586.bin13:14
CJKayOracle Java 7 doesn't allow me to use anything other than software rendering and OpenJDK 6 just crashes13:14
Dr_Willisis all i know on the topic.13:14
dontknowanyone using chromium here?13:14
Dr_Willisthats java 613:14
Dr_Willisoracle java 6 jre 32-bit13:15
dontknowno one use chromium?13:15
dontknowlol13:15
CJKayDr_Willis: Link is broken13:15
Dr_Willisi tend to use chromoim or google chrome13:15
CJKayWhich is kinda my problem. Everything has been taken down13:16
Dr_WillisCJKay:  all i know is on that wiki page. ;) so cant help much more13:16
CJKayAlright, thanks13:16
Dr_Willischeck askubuntu.com perhaps someone has an old version somewhere13:16
dontknowDr_Willis, are you using or not?13:16
Dr_Willisbrowser window says chromium on this box.13:17
iceroot!anyone | dontknow13:17
ubottudontknow: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.13:17
Dr_Willisother boxs are using googles chrome. ;)13:17
ActionParsnipdontknow: chromium is all I use13:17
Dr_Williscant say ive ever noticed any differance in the 213:17
tomodohttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Calculator13:17
tomodowhere can I get the source code for this program?13:17
dontknowActionParsnip, is it still 18, because 19 released and still no update?13:17
iceroot!info calculator13:18
ubottuPackage calculator does not exist in precise13:18
Dr_Willis!find calculator13:18
ubottuFound: libwww-google-calculator-perl13:18
ActionParsniptomodo: apt-get source gcalc13:18
ActionParsnipdontknow: could report a bug, is there no deb file around13:18
tomodoi want the source coed13:18
iceroottomodo: if you know the packagename use "apt-get source packagename" to get the source-package13:18
Dr_Willis!find gnome-calculator13:18
ubottuFile gnome-calculator found in breathe-icon-theme, elementary-icon-theme, gcalctool, gnome-icon-theme-full, gnome-icon-theme-gartoon, gnome-icon-theme-gartoon-redux, gnome-icon-theme-gperfection2, gnome-icon-theme-nuovo, humanity-icon-theme, moblin-icon-theme (and 2 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=gnome-calculator&mode=&suite=precise&arch=any13:18
dontknowActionParsnip, you have 18 either?13:18
dontknowActionParsnip, or is it just me13:19
tomodothanks very much13:19
dontknowgtmanfred, what are you doing here :D13:20
Adriannomhi.  just installed xubuntu 12.04 and after i suspend, the screen is very dark, even at the prompt to log back in.  changing brightness has some effect, but even full brightness is very dark.  the mouse pointer is the only thing that is at full brightness.  any ideas what could be going on?13:21
evilgeeniusAfter a fresh install of Ubuntu 12 I have tried to install "apt-get install linux-headers-3.2.0-23-generic" , but it gives me the error "Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.2.0-23-generic (x86_64)".   Does anyone know what the issue is?  I need to install this so I can run VirtualBox.13:21
dontknowActionParsnip, could you check your chromium's version number13:22
icerootevilgeenius: use the metapackage instead13:22
tomodoI installed the source with apt, but where is it?13:22
icerootevilgeenius: linux-headers-generic if i am correct13:22
tomodooh I found it13:22
iceroottomodo: in the dir where you called the command13:22
tomodogreat13:22
notzei always get problems running apt-get13:22
notzewhats wrong13:22
notzeits a plain ubuntu server13:23
notzeUnable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?13:23
notzeeither that13:23
notzeor a lot other problem13:23
yeatsnotze: details?13:23
notzeFailed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/v/vlan/vlan_1.9-3ubuntu6_amd64.deb  Unable to connect to us.archive.ubuntu.com:http:13:23
notzeE: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?13:23
digitaljTry another mirror13:23
icerootnotze: Unable to connect to us.archive.ubuntu.com13:23
Dr_Willisus.archive.* has been slow the last few days.  not tried it today13:23
yeatsnotze: "Unable to connect to us.archive.ubuntu.com" is your key line13:23
icerootnotze: what is the question? the error is very clear13:24
digitaljI was having problems with us.archive.ubuntu.com yesterday13:24
digitaljSome other people were seeing rediculous latency as well, like only 20KB/s13:24
Dr_Willisyep. been that way for like 3 days13:26
D[4]nidoes anyone know how to fix this error in rhythmbox trying to load the 10-band equalizer plugin? http://pastebin.com/y4BqVQFB13:26
evilgeeniusiceroot: Ok I installed the linux-headers-generic, but now virtualbox gives me the error : "Error! Your kernel headers for kernel 3.2.0-23-generic cannot be found.".  If I install those specified headers then i get an error.13:28
ngomesD[4]ni, do you have python-gconf installed ?13:28
evilgeeniusiceroot: Also, the kernel-devel package is not available to install.  Is that correct?13:28
icerootevilgeenius: what is the output of "dpkg -l linux-headers-3.2.0-23-generic"13:29
D[4]ningomes, yes i do13:29
iceroot!info linux-headers-generic13:29
ubottulinux-headers-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel headers. In component main, is optional. Version 3.2.0.24.26 (precise), package size 2 kB, installed size 31 kB13:29
dontknowcould someone check what version chromium installed on your ubuntu if you haven't added another repo13:29
notzeiceroot13:29
notzeyes ists clear but what is this13:30
icerootevilgeenius: as you see its 3.2.0.24 and not .2313:30
notzesometimes is there and 5mins later not?13:30
notzethis HAS to work13:30
notzei also have this problem with german servers of ubuntu13:30
notzeand adn13:30
icerootevilgeenius: you are on 12.0413:30
evilgeeniusiceroot: This is the output : un  linux-headers-3.2.0-23-g13:30
ngomesD[4]ni, i suggest you go ask in #python room then , maybe then can explain better13:30
compdocdontknow, my version is 18.0.1025.16813:30
Dr_Willis!info chromium13:30
ubottuPackage chromium does not exist in precise13:30
icerootnotze: can you ping google.de from the cli? ping -c 4 google.com13:30
Dr_Willis!info chromium-browser13:30
ubottuchromium-browser (source: chromium-browser): Chromium browser. In component universe, is optional. Version 18.0.1025.151~r130497-0ubuntu1 (precise), package size 21157 kB, installed size 78055 kB13:30
xtuhi, how to use rss in ubuntu?13:31
icerootevilgeenius: 12.04 is using 3.2.0-24-generic and not 2313:31
iceroot!info linux-headers-generic | evilgeenius13:31
ubottuevilgeenius: linux-headers-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel headers. In component main, is optional. Version 3.2.0.24.26 (precise), package size 2 kB, installed size 31 kB13:31
xtui mean i want to listen the voa english .13:31
Dr_Willisxtu:  whith rss reader apps is one way.  I just use google-reader's web site.13:31
Dr_Willisrmss?13:31
dontknowcompdoc, i still have 18.0.1025.151 and didn't get update ???13:31
xtuno, i don't know what is rmss?13:31
duobixHi, will there by official support for nvidia optimus?13:32
xtuDr_Willis, you mean you can get the english podcast in google-reader?13:32
Dr_Willisrss = a news feed. rmms is a audio/video stream - i think. i may be backwards13:32
evilgeeniusiceroot: ok.  So you you have any idea why virtualbox is looking for 3.2.0.23?  "Error! Your kernel headers for kernel 3.2.0-23-generic cannot be found."13:32
compdocdontknow, I installed from the google website13:32
icerootevilgeenius: vbox from the repos?13:32
dontknowcompdoc, so you should have had 1913:32
xtuok, I will try the google-reader13:32
notzeiceroot yes13:32
notzeit works all perfect13:32
dontknowcompdoc, 19 released13:32
notzeonly the apt stuff is problemtic13:33
Dr_Willishttp://www.voanews.com/wm/live/newsnow.asx13:33
Dr_Willisworks in totem13:33
evilgeeniusiceroot: no from their website.  I need to be using a  slightly older version or virtualbox, 4.1.4, and not the most recent, 4.1.14.13:33
xtuoh,  so I can add that link to totem.13:34
Dr_Willisxtu:  i imagine most any of the media players can handle it.13:34
compdocdontknow, I installed it a short while back, so thats why13:34
Dr_Willisxtu:  i just went to the voanews.com site and clicked on the link and it opened in totem. i saw the url and pasted it here.13:34
ActionParsnipdontknow: all I've found is 'add the chrome ppa and install chrome-unstable' which isn't the same thing13:34
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duobixHi, is there any way I can simply install rpm packages, without opening terminal?13:34
icerootevilgeenius: then i guess that is out of support here13:35
crazypetedoes anyone know of a texteditor that I can run in a terminal that has shift-arrows to select and ctrl-c/v/x?13:35
dontknowDr_Willis, i didn't add any extra repo, i installed chromium using software center. so this means i will get no update anymore?13:35
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Dr_Willisdontknow:  ubuntu only does security updates to their official repos13:35
Dr_Willisrarely version # updates13:35
icerootevilgeenius: if i am correct there is something like /etc/init.d/vbox-setup13:35
icerootevilgeenius: maybe that can help13:35
evilgeeniusiceroot: yes, that is where I see the error message13:36
icerootevilgeenius: ah ok13:36
dontknowDr_Willis, it is not including chromium?13:36
xtuoh, and Dr_Willis , I am not a America, and I want to improve my english, so I want to listen the VOA podcast or rss thing. but I don't know what to do?13:36
e_t_duobix: RPM packages are for Red Hat and similar systems, not for Debian-derivatives like Ubuntu. You might have some luck using 'alien' but it's not guaranteed.13:36
evilgeeniusiceroot:  Virtualbox must be getting 3.2.0.23 from somewhere.13:36
icerootevilgeenius: are you bootet in the .23 kernel maybe? but have the headers installed for .24?13:36
icerootevilgeenius: maybe that script is parsing the output of uname13:36
duobixe_t_ thank you.13:37
compdocdontknow, I cannot see an option to update chrome13:37
evilgeeniusiceroot: yes, uname shows 3.2.0-23-generic13:37
icerootevilgeenius: install the .24 kernel, reboot the system13:37
duobixAnyway, I'd love to see a non-terminal installer for tar.gz files13:37
icerootevilgeenius: then the metapackage .24 is matching again to uname13:37
iceroot!info linux-image-generic13:37
ubottulinux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 3.2.0.24.26 (precise), package size 2 kB, installed size 31 kB13:37
crazypetewhat do I google for to find editors that run in terminal? what is the common name for non-graphical text editors?13:38
icerootevilgeenius: you see, there is a newer kernel for 12.04 and because the script is parsing uname you get that error13:38
Dr_Willisdontknow:  security updates only. are the normal way of ubuntu doing updates to ANYTHING in their repos. ubuntu is not a 'rolling' release13:38
duobixThat's killing the whole experiance in any linux system13:38
evilgeeniusiceroot: thanks! I'll I;ll try it.13:38
dontknowDr_Willis, if i install google chrome through their website, it will take updates ?13:38
icerootcrazypete: vim, emacs, nano, joe13:38
Dr_Willisdontknow:  if google updates it.. yes.13:38
Dr_Willisdontknow:  if goodle dosent.. then no.13:38
Muellicrazypete: I'd do: apt-cache search editor13:38
dontknowDr_Willis, ok thanks13:38
icerootcrazypete: command line editor for example13:39
chucrazypete: You're basically limited to the ones iceroot mentioned.13:39
Dr_Williscrazypete:  go learn vi. :) its worth learning13:39
icerootcrazypete: yes, use vim (not vi) its a real good editor13:39
crazypeteiceroot, those are line-editors. I want proper text-editor for cli. Somebody must have written something like gedit for cli, if only as a proof of concept.13:39
icerootcrazypete: i told you 413:39
Dr_Williscrazypete:  thers dozens of text editors for the cli.13:40
angel282Hello, Can someone recommend me on good server management panel such cpanel etc.. ?(which easy to install)?13:40
icerootcrazypete: vim is like gedit but much much much much more powerfull13:40
Dr_Williscrazypete:  on a 'rescue' system  - often you will be stuck with vi and nano. so those 2 are wrorth learning.13:40
icerootcrazypete: sudo apt-get install vim, then use the command "vimtutor"13:40
Dr_Willisfte is a very impressive text editor for the console also. but its not commonly used.13:41
Dr_Willis!info fte13:41
ubottufte (source: fte): Text editor for programmers - base package. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.50.2b6-1 (precise), package size 87 kB, installed size 323 kB13:41
crazypeteDr_Willis, how do a search for these dozens of such editors. what is the common name for them?13:41
icerootcrazypete: i told you that too13:41
Dr_Williscrazypete:  apt-get basics... 'apt-cache search PATTERNNAME'13:41
icerootcrazypete: command line editor13:41
icerootcrazypete: but trust me if you want a real editor on the shell with some advanced features there are only vim and emacs13:42
Volkan-Khi13:42
ActionParsnipcrazypete: nano for me :)13:43
crazypeteI search for command line editors and I find those mentioned here. I don't want to offend anyone, but they're crap. I am looking for something simple and usefull.13:43
Dr_Willisi find nano just annoying13:43
icerootcrazypete: nano and joe if you want something simple13:43
crazypetenano is better, but copy select...13:43
Volkan-Kthey gave me this url for downloading ubuntu : http://tinyurl.com/cccrkq9  but I can't download. can you help?13:43
Dr_Williscrazypete:  they are not crap. if you want simple. go with nano.13:43
icerootcrazypete: and of course vim is not crap its just not what you are looking for13:43
ActionParsnipcrazypete: tried nano, simple yet effective. None of the flashy stuff, just a straight editor13:43
Dr_Willistry fte - you may like it,13:44
angel282Can someone recommend me on a free good server/system administration panel? someone told me webmin is good? any recommendations?13:44
icerootangel282: ssh13:44
Dr_Willisangel282:  for get you ever heard about webmin13:44
Dr_Willis!ebox13:44
ubottuzentyal is a web-based GUI interface for administering a server. It is designed to work with Ubuntu/Debian style configuration management. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Zentyal (Project formally known as eBox - including in Lucid/10.04).13:44
iceroot!webmin | angel28213:44
ubottuangel282: webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system.13:44
ActionParsnipdon't use webmin13:44
angel282ActionParsnip: ok, so which admin panel you are recommend to use?13:45
Volkan-Kthats becaus Debian sux13:45
Volkan-Kuse CentOS13:45
icerootVolkan-K: stop it13:45
Volkan-Kwhy would i stop. thats the truth13:46
icerootVolkan-K: its offtopic here13:46
icerootVolkan-K: this is not #debian and not #centos13:46
compdochas anyone heard news about why the ubuntu mirrors are so slow?13:47
icerootVolkan-K: and if the user is not able to admin a system with the normal tools and need a webgui for it i am not sure if the os is the reason for sucking13:47
compdoccant upgrade my server13:47
Dr_Williscompdoc:  not seen any news on it..13:47
gccsterguys i have ubuntu 12.04 on intel i5 laptop hibernate/suspend not working what can i do?13:47
Dr_Williscompdoc:  been show for 4 days here13:47
Dr_Willisslow13:47
compdocsounds the same for me13:47
angel282ActionParsnip: so which admin panel can be used instead of webmin?13:48
Dr_Willis!ebox | angel282  said this earlier13:48
ubottuangel282  said this earlier: zentyal is a web-based GUI interface for administering a server. It is designed to work with Ubuntu/Debian style configuration management. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Zentyal (Project formally known as eBox - including in Lucid/10.04).13:48
Dr_Willis'best' is to learn to use ssh. ;P13:49
Volkan-Kubuntu is debian based13:50
Volkan-Kand is not stable13:50
Volkan-Khere is the proof: http://digitaloffense.net/tools/debian-openssl/13:50
icerootVolkan-K: you have a support question?13:50
Volkan-Kiceroot: fuck you!13:50
icerootVolkan-K: cu :)13:50
Dr_Willispointless comments are pointless.13:51
sirriffsalotHey! Is there any database for ubuntu users on getting the right nvidia drivers installed?13:53
chabicobimy USB 3G CDMA not working in edubuntu 12.04 who  can help me?13:53
ikoniasirriffsalot: the hardware drivers tool should offer the most compatible version for you13:53
Dr_Willissirriffsalot:  i thought nvidia-current sort of scanned and installed what it thought was needed.13:53
sirriffsalotI've had some uncomfortable experience in 11.10 doing that though...13:53
enbezDoes anyone know of a free server that allows you to run programs on it?13:53
ikoniasirriffsalot: your card may not actually have good support13:54
sirriffsalotI couldn't login after installing an nvidia driver...13:54
ikoniaenbez: please don't ask in here - this is ubuntu support13:54
Dr_Willissirriffsalot:  detailas as to what happens exactly is more helpfull13:54
enbezok, sorry. Do you know a channel where i can ask?13:54
ActionParsnipangel282: I suggest you learn to manage the system with CLI, your skills will be transferrable to other distros and the system will be more secure.13:54
votproductionsWait what?13:54
sirriffsalotWell, it was a dream studio distribution, so could have been that. Now I'm on a straight Ubuntu 12.0413:54
sirriffsalotHow do I check what nvidia cards I have?13:54
ActionParsnipsirriffsalot: sudo lshw -C display13:55
amaureaHi! My repositories contain the package libportaudio2, but not a corresponding -dev package. Isn't there usually a -dev version for every package?13:55
sirriffsalotActionParsnip: what should I be looking for??13:55
ActionParsnipsirriffsalot: the product line(s)13:55
Dr_Willissays 'vga'  on a line sirriffsalot13:55
chabicobiLa nouvelle version de ubuntu ma clé  internet n'est pas détecté aidez moi13:56
sirriffsalotOddly enough I have two *display lines... haha13:56
sirriffsalotproduct: G98 [GeForce G 100] and product: G98 [GeForce G 100]13:56
sirriffsalotHow do I check which one is being used? Haha13:56
ThiagovfarOn Ubuntu, ~/bin is automatically added to the PATH variable. Question is: Where is that? I've looked into .bashrc, /etc/bash.bashrc, /etc/profile. Couldn't find it.13:56
ActionParsnipsirriffsalot: nvidia-settings has a button to identify displays13:56
Muelli!fr | chabicobi13:56
ubottuchabicobi: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.13:56
ActionParsnipThiagovfar: /etc/environment  maybe..13:57
sirriffsalotActionParsnip: alright, installing that13:57
sirriffsalotBy the way, is there some software/command that removes repositories that I no longer use?13:57
sirriffsalotThat has no software installed requiring them13:57
ThiagovfarActionParsnip: Nope.13:58
magic_ali have a picture on the top of my website. this picture is supposed to change depending on the content. more in detail the content is organized within a hierarchical menu. the top level of this menu consists of 6 links. for every of those 6 links i have a certain picture. how can i get the highest link parent of a content-typ in order to fit the picture according to that?13:58
sirriffsalotHmm "You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver."13:58
ThiagovfarActionParsnip: What bugs me is that it seems to be default behaviour for ubuntu, yet I can't find it.13:58
mneptokThiagovfar: ~/.profile ?13:58
chabicobiMon USB 3G 1x CDMA ne marche pas avec Ubuntu 12.0413:58
mneptokchabicobi: Angaloseulement en cette canale, SVP13:59
mneptokchabicobi: "Anglais seulement"13:59
sirriffsalot"Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server."13:59
sirriffsalotHow do I restart the X server?13:59
Dr_Willis$ grep PATH .*13:59
Dr_Willisshows it in .profile   ;)14:00
mneptoksirriffsalot: ALT+PrntScrn+K14:00
sirriffsalotmneptok: Thanks:) Hang on14:00
monohedronhi I install 12.04 lts 64bit plus gnome. in gnome classic every window I open ends up partially hidden by the upper panel. can someone let me now how to prevent that?14:00
Thiagovfarmneptok: yep, found it on ~/.profile14:00
* Dr_Willis cant imagine why that default behaivor would be annoying.14:00
angel282ActionParsnip: Zentyal is seems hard to install any alternative admin panel which more easy to install?14:01
chabicobimy internet key  USB 3G 1x CDMA not working in  Ubuntu 12.0414:01
sirriffsalotsudo: nvidia-xconfig: command not found14:01
Muellichabicobi: how do you know it's not working?14:01
ThiagovfarDr_Willis: It's not annoying. I just want to copy it over on Gentoo =)14:01
mneptokThiagovfar: .profile is not shell specific. so if you switch to zsh or tcsh, /bin will stll be in the $PATH14:01
chabicobiI think it is not detect14:02
Thiagovfarmneptok: good to know14:02
Dr_Willissirriffsalot:  the x gui to nvidia is 'nvidia-settings'14:02
ActionParsnipangel282: what do you need the admin panel to achieve?14:02
sirriffsalotDr_Willis: Yes, I get it open, but tells me  "You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver. "14:03
mneptokchabicobi: pastebin the outout of "sudo lsusb -vv"14:03
angel282ActionParsnip: to manage the domains (adding new domains to the server), ftp accounts and bandwidth control14:03
Dr_Willissirriffsalot:  so... you are not using the nvidia drivers.14:03
sirriffsalotDr_Willis:  "Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server."14:03
ActionParsnipsirriffsalot: try:  sudo nvidia-xconfig      then14:03
sirriffsalotActionParsnip: I did14:03
Dr_Willisnvidia-xconfig is a cli tool to tweak the xorg.conf14:03
sirriffsalotThen it tells me there is no such command14:03
Dr_Willisive rarely needed to run nvidia-xconfig14:04
Dr_Willis$ which nvidia-xconfig14:04
Dr_Willis/usr/bin/nvidia-xconfig14:04
Dr_Willis!find nvidia-xconfig14:04
ubottuFile nvidia-xconfig found in nvidia-173, nvidia-173-updates, nvidia-96, nvidia-96-updates, nvidia-current, nvidia-current-updates14:04
ActionParsnip!info cpanel14:04
ubottuPackage cpanel does not exist in precise14:04
sirriffsalotNo such file or directory... lol14:04
Dr_Willisits part of the nvidia drivers.. how did you install your nvidia drivers  sirriffsalot ?14:05
sirriffsalotIn my system settings details it says I have this driver: Gallium 0.4 on NV9814:05
sirriffsalotDr_Willis: Well, I haven't... as I asked in the beginning, I wondered if there is a sound database webpage for getting the right driver installed14:05
sirriffsalotBut I suppose this is an even more effective database!14:05
Dr_WillisDriver: GeForce GT 530/PCIe/SSE214:06
sirriffsalotDr_Willis: ?14:06
D[4]nialso, is there a way to change the order of the window buttons in the maximized state?14:06
Dr_Willisall i did on this box was 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-current' and then rebooted14:06
ActionParsnipangel282: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_web_hosting_control_panels14:06
sirriffsalotDr_Willis: Hmm, well I guess I'll try that:) Brb14:06
D[4]nii don't like close-minimize-maximize, i'd rather have close-maximize-minimize14:07
Dr_Willissirriffsalot:  thats all ive ever needed to do for like all 10 of my nvidia machines.. ;)14:07
Dr_WillisD[4]ni:  at one time Ubuntu-tweak let you reorder them14:07
ActionParsnipD[4]ni: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc14:07
D[4]nii'm on precise14:07
chabicobiand me i am in edubuntu precise14:08
ActionParsnipD[4]ni: do you still want them on the left?14:08
chabicobisorry help me14:08
Dr_Willischabicobi:  and the problem is14:09
D[4]nii know it's possible for the normal state with gconf-editor, but there doesn't seem to be a setting for the maximized state14:09
D[4]nifor maximized windows, they should be on the left, yes14:09
Dr_Willisthe title/controls get hidden when maxamized. so it would be settings in the panel thing i belive. cant say ive ever noticed them getting reordered. let me see if ubuntu-tweak does it14:10
Muelli!details | chabicobi14:10
ubottuchabicobi: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."14:10
ActionParsnipD[4]ni: i guess its a global menu thing, the maximized apps controls go into that14:11
Dr_WillisHmm. Ubuntu-tweak no longer has to settings to reorder the buttons. just left or right.14:11
Dr_Willisi used to do Min Max <big space> Close    all the time14:12
chabicobiThank you i want to install my key USB 3G CDMA in ubuntu 120.4 , the not dectecting that14:12
D[4]niand where do i find the settings for that?14:12
monohedronon 12.04 lts 64bit plus gnome. in gnome classic sessions every window I open ends up partially hidden by the upper panel. can someone let me now how to prevent that?14:12
Dr_WillisD[4]ni:  from whative googled. you cant reorder them in the top panel. but you can in the window title14:14
notzeno i changed the server14:14
notzeall the time14:14
notzethe same shit14:14
notzehon-qpid_0.12-2_all.deb  Unable to connect to archive.ubuntu.com:http:14:14
FloodBot1notze: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.14:14
notzeFailed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/python-webob/python-webob_1.1.1-1_all.deb  Unable to connect to archive.ubuntu.com:http:14:14
notzeFailed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/s/socat/socat_1.7.1.3-1.2_amd64.deb  Unable to connect to archive.ubuntu.com:http:14:14
ikonianotze: can you please a.) tone down the language b.) not flood the channel14:14
D[4]niDr_Willis, i already changed it in the titlebar14:14
notzethanx for info the bot told me already14:15
icerootnotze: öh14:15
Dr_WillisD[4]ni:  I did see some indicator-applet mentioned that  did the same feature. it may have been more changeable. check the webupd8 postings - it was either this week or last week i saw it mentioned14:15
notzei i never had this problem with debian14:15
icerootnotze: why is the error archive.ubuntu.com:http14:15
icerootnotze: and not http://archive.ubuntu.com14:15
Dr_Willishttp://www.webupd8.org/2012/05/window-buttons-extension-available-for.html14:16
icerootnotze: please paste the output of "cat /etc/apt/sources.list"14:16
iceroot!paste | notze14:16
ubottunotze: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.14:16
notzeok ;D14:16
ActionParsnipnotze: try: http://paste.ubuntu.com/997438/14:16
sa7elakHello, how to move an application window to another workspace ??? and how to switch between work spaces using keyboard ??14:16
icerootsa7elak: ctrl + alt + left/right cursor-key to switch (if i am correct)14:17
ActionParsnipsa7elak: ctrl+alt+left / right cursor to switch workspace14:17
Dr_Willissa7elak:  in unity on 12.04 press and hold the SUPER(windows) key and it shows a shortcut guide14:17
ActionParsnipsa7elak: you can right click the window decorator and send it to a workspace that way14:17
Dr_Willisit says shift-alt-ctrl-arrows to move to otehr work spaces14:18
chabicobi#ubuntu-fr14:18
Dr_WillisThe Super Key is SUper!14:18
icerootnotze: i bet you just messed up your /etc/apt/sources.list :) so its your fault and not the fault of ubuntu and the complete flame from you was not needed :)14:18
ActionParsnipDr_Willis: thanks for asking :)14:19
stars69hi, what is the cmd to format drive under ssh screen?14:20
sa7elakThanks for you all14:20
AshkotHello everybody  ^_^14:20
ActionParsnipstars69: mk2fs   you will format the partition too, not the drive14:20
michaelvdYello, is it possible to find a bluetooth server for multiple communication(voice/soud)?14:20
ActionParsnipstars69: the partition will need to be unmounted to be formatted14:20
stars69ActionParsnip, thanks14:21
paopaoI installed nvidia on opensuse, then I realized that ubuntu is really easy to use, and it's so convenient14:21
compdocubuntu is nice14:22
gccsterguys why every time i boot my laptop and login ubuntu the wireless adapter is disabled and i have to press the keyboard enable button?14:22
airbenderso nice14:22
ActionParsnippaopao: some distros come with the driver pre-added :)14:22
ActionParsnipgccster: if you login and run:  sudo rfkill unblock all     does it unlock it?14:23
maddinwHello everyone.14:23
sirriffsalotDr_Willis: Still no change with the nvidia-settings installed..14:23
maddinwI was redirected from another channel to here  and I hope that you could help me with a question I have.14:24
gccsterActionParsnip, should i restart and check out?14:24
paopaoActionParsnip, you are right14:24
sirriffsalotDr_Willis: When I run it now it still tells me "You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver."14:24
gccsterActionParsnip, i dont know if i am clear the wireless adapter is disabled and it needs a keyboard button to get enabled every time i reboot14:25
ActionParsnipgccster: if the command works, we can make it happen automagically14:25
Ashkotwhat is the main differences between the ubuntu and kubuntu?14:25
gccsterActionParsnip, ok let me try then14:25
maddinwBut if you are busy right now thats ok I guess.14:26
ActionParsnipAshkot: default desktop, window manager and default apps. The rest is the same14:26
Hotwiredwtf is meeboo and why is my ubuntu live disk showing me meeboo ads in the corner of my screen :S14:27
L3topsirriffsalot: lspci -nn | grep VGA14:27
rufensismaddinw what is your question?14:27
Dr_Willissounds like somthign the browser is doing Hotwired14:27
luserhi all. what's the difference in "lspci -k" output between "Kernel driver in use" and "Kernel modules"? i have different output between two different installations...14:27
sirriffsalotL3top: 03:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation G98 [GeForce G 100] [10de:06e6] (rev a1)  and 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation C77 [GeForce 8200] [10de:084b] (rev a2)14:27
luserthese are both output: http://pastebin.com/LhrXyvgC14:27
luserin the second case "Kernel modules" is missing although i can see the module with lsmod14:28
sirriffsalotL3top: I get those two lines as output..14:28
dontknowchrome stable 64 bit doesn't have internal flash player?14:28
HotwiredDr_Willis: evil!14:28
maddinwrufensis: I have a few questions about ssh-tunneling and ssh agents.14:28
L3topsirriffsalot: are you trying to use both your onboard and the card?14:28
sirriffsalotL3top: No idea... not intentionally at least:S14:28
dontknowi can't see internal flash player in plugins tab14:28
gccsterActionParsnip, well it is not working14:28
maddinwI have access to the tunneling service at ssh.silenceisdefeat.com and I can build a tunnel.14:28
L3topsirriffsalot: disable the onboard in bios14:28
sirriffsalotOnboard...14:29
Ashkoti think i am in love with kde14:29
sirriffsalotWill that be the G 100 one?14:29
maddinwI use the command ssh -D 8000 -Nf sd14:29
L3topno14:29
maddinwWith sd being the host defined in ~/.ssh/confid14:29
maddinw*config14:29
L3topwait14:29
ActionParsnipgccster: so the command is no good :(14:29
L3topperhaps14:29
sirriffsalotL3top: so the (rev 2) GeForce 8200?14:30
maddinwI can open it, but I would like to have it at startup so I dont need to open it up myself all the time.+14:30
AshkotActionParsnip : thank you :)14:30
maddinwSo I edited my /etc/rc.local file and inserted the command in there.14:30
L3topsirriffsalot: I would expect that that is your onboard.  however in the bios it will likely identify as "onboard"14:31
ActionParsnipAshkot: np man :)14:31
sirriffsalotL3top: I'll have a look, thanks for suggesting! Brb14:31
maddinwBut the tunnel is not available after startup. I have activated public key authentification, but that does not make a difference I guess.14:31
L3topsirriffsalot: is this an asus m3n78 bpard by chance?14:31
ActionParsnipgccster: does the system have a make and model?14:31
L3tops/bpard/board/14:32
luserexcuse me, anyone knows what's the difference in "lspci -k" output between "Kernel driver in use" and "Kernel modules"?14:32
gccsterActionParsnip, you mean my laptops firm?14:32
Dr_Willisin use mean loaded.. vs ones that could be loaded.14:32
ActionParsnipgccster: the full model please14:32
* Dr_Willis guesses14:32
gccsterActionParsnip, its a local company its an i5 intel 4gb ram nothing special14:33
maddinwAny idea?14:33
ActionParsnipluser: possibly the ones in use are being used now, but some may be loaded but doing nothing14:33
ActionParsnipgccster: so its not a dell or acer etc?14:33
Dr_Willissome devices could use differnt modules. I know of several network cards that have differnt drivers that COULD be used for them14:34
* L3top guesses Dr_Willis's guess is right14:34
ActionParsnipgccster: run:  sudo dmidecode -t 1    can you pastebin the output please14:34
gccsterActionParsnip, nop i think it must be a interface command that im measing like auto wan0 etc14:34
luserActionParsnip: these era two lspci output of two different installations (dual boot): http://pastebin.com/LhrXyvgC14:34
rufensismaddinw: i've never tried loading an ssh login at bootup.14:34
luserActionParsnip: the strange thing is that in both installation lsmod shows the pata_marvell module14:35
Erealzhey guys i have a question im running ubuntu 12.04 64bit lts. i haveing a problem when trying to visit a website that was working fine a some time ago.  also i cant reach my shellaccount? but if i connect to my vpn then and retry the page loadsup? and the shell account login come up? what could be causeing this?14:35
gccsterActionParsnip, http://pastebin.com/5N1LtwWC14:35
maddinwI think it is possible - Im okay with entering the password to allow access to my private keys - but I heard that Linux is flexible so I though this might not pose much of a problem.14:36
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mosnoi found something that fixes my gnome-panel notification area problem until i logout again: if i open appearance properties and pick another GTK+ theme, it fixes my notification area. it remains fixed even if i switch back to the orginal theme (Ambiance)14:37
Dr_Willisyou can set up ssh keys where you just do a 'ssh host' and it auto starts up with no passwords needed. thats easy enough14:37
Onixsi just installed 12.04 on my powerbook!14:37
DwezzelDoes someone knows why updates are so slow today ?  From Canada... ???   Or maybe it's only me....14:37
maddinwDr_Willis: Could you explain that a but further please?14:37
Dr_WillisDwezzel:  been slow for 4+ days14:37
Dr_Willis!ssh | maddinw14:37
ubottumaddinw: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol, see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH for client usage. PuTTY is an SSH client for Windows; see: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ for it's homepage. See also !scp (Secure CoPy) and !sshd (Secure SHell Daemon)14:37
DwezzelThx Dr_Willis14:38
sirriffsalotL3top: Hi... I went into the bios (I'm on a acer aspire machine) and I can't find any options to disable the graphics cards....... this is getting annoying lol14:38
ActionParsnipgccster: ok, if you run:  sudo lshw -C network    what driver is the wifi using?14:38
PrsmHello, How do you portforward on Ubuntu without router access?14:38
Dr_Willismaddinw:  you generate the keys copy the pub to the server. and    ssh foo, i get a prompt no need to enter  a pass14:38
* Erealz i need help trobleshooting a problem ,im running ubuntu 12.04 64bit lts. i haveing a problem when trying to visit a website that was working fine a some time ago. also i cant reach my shellaccount? but if i connect to my vpn then and retry the page loadsup? and the shell account login come up? what could be causeing this?14:38
DwezzelDr_Willis: Nobody knows when it will be fixed ??14:38
Dr_WillisDwezzel:  no idea14:38
ActionParsnipPrsm: if you are using a router you need to set it up there14:38
DwezzelThx anyway Dr_Willis14:38
maddinwDr_Willis: why should I use PuTTy on a system that has SSH  build into it? I have the public key on the host, but this does still require me to open the tunnel after startup.14:39
gccsterActionParsnip, http://pastebin.com/ZJfFH2tQ14:39
mneptoksirriffsalot: disable what graphics? in favor of what?14:39
L3topsirriffsalot: let me look at something14:39
Dr_Willismaddinw:  you dont need to use putty client on linux, unless you like its features.14:39
maddinwAnd I use dynamic forwarding...local forwarding does not really work.14:39
ActionParsnipgccster: ok, reboot then run:   sudo modprobe -r ath9k ; sleep 2; sudo modprobe ath9k14:40
Dr_Willismaddinw:  you can use  the command line to set up tunnels and so forth14:40
ActionParsnipgccster: does it then work?14:40
sirriffsalotmneptok: L3top suggested I do that, since I have two graphic cards showing up when I want to know of their usage14:40
gccsterActionParsnip, ok give me a moment14:40
maddinwDr_Willis: I know. I do that, but I can't open them at startup.14:40
mneptoksirriffsalot: the 2 you pasted were the exact same model.14:40
sirriffsalotmneptok: uhm... no? Different numbers and on different lines, how can they be the same?!-.-14:40
mneptoksirriffsalot: i know of no OEM that will embed 2 discrete nVidia GPUs into a system.14:40
Dr_Willismaddinw:  you can make shell scripts start at login.14:40
Erealzok14:41
sirriffsalotmneptok: OEM?14:41
L3topI dont think so.14:41
L3top 03:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation G98 [GeForce G 100] [10de:06e6] (rev a1)  and 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation C77 [GeForce 8200] [10de:084b] (rev a2)14:41
Dr_Willis stuff in .config/autostart starts at login. if set up right14:41
L3topthey have different pci-ids14:41
maddinwDr_Willis: I already edited my /etc/init.d/rc.local and inserted "ssh -D 8000 user@host"14:41
mneptoksirriffsalot: 07:56 < sirriffsalot> product: G98 [GeForce G 100] and product: G98 [GeForce G 100]14:41
sirriffsalotmneptok: ah yea, copied wrong on that one:P14:41
sirriffsalotmneptok: what L3top just linked is correct..14:42
mneptoksirriffsalot: this is a laptop?14:42
sirriffsalotmneptok: nope, just a shitty PC14:42
Erealzumm how about this command would i issue to find out why a certain  page is load and or haveing trouble connecting to it services like a shellaccount?14:42
L3toplooks like a nettop14:42
Dr_Willismaddinw:  stuff in rc.local get ran by root.. so you need to set up the keys in  the root users dir i imagine.14:42
sirriffsalotL3top: It's an acer aspire x3200...14:42
mneptoksirriffsalot: do you have a PCI(-E) graphics card in it?14:42
L3topI am not sure what benefit the addin card is.14:42
sirriffsalotmneptok: how do I check?14:42
L3topI was loking them up.14:42
Dr_Willismaddinw:  useing su -c  in rc.local lets the command get ran by a user and use the users stuff.14:42
Erealzumm how about this?what  command would i issue to find out why a certain  page isn't loading and or having trouble connecting to it services like a shellaccount?14:43
luserActionParsnip: excuse me, don't you think these output are "strange"? http://pastebin.com/VVTazGHN vs http://pastebin.com/7CD3YzBV14:43
sivamhi i want to install sun-jdk6 or sun-jdk714:43
mneptoksirriffsalot: does the monitor cable plug into the motherboard, as well as an expansion slot? a choice?14:43
sivamhi i want to install sun-jdk6 or sun-jdk714:43
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maddinwDr_Willis: This sounds plausible...I will try it out14:43
sirriffsalotmneptok: uhm, the monitor cable is plugged into the "top"14:44
mneptoksirriffsalot: there is only one place to plug in a monitor?14:44
sirriffsalotmneptok: no, two14:44
sirriffsalotmneptok: trying to find a picture for you to see the rear14:44
Erealzumm how about this?what  command would i issue to find out why a certain  page isn't loading and or having trouble connecting to it services like a shellaccount?14:44
maddinwThank you very much so far...see you after my reboot.14:44
knutremiHi. I'm having trouble with gedit and FTP. Some of the files I save go empty at random. I asked yesterday but no one had an answer.14:44
mneptoksirriffsalot: look at the rearward port. is it an expansion slot?14:44
sirriffsalotmneptok: http://www.google.no/imgres?q=acer+aspir+x3200&um=1&hl=no&safe=off&client=opera&sa=N&rls=en&channel=suggest&tbm=isch&tbnid=vo1hpHAKoo4MrM:&imgrefurl=http://www.saverstore.com/product/20029938/Acer-Aspire-X3200-Athlon-64-X2-5000-26GHz-3GB-RAM-320GB-DVDRW-LAN-Vista-Home-GeForce&docid=kZYs605ci8V55M&imgurl=http://images2.icecat.biz/img/gallery/2059992_6279.jpg&w=1024&h=1206&ei=PAO5T5miB4PYtA14:45
sirriffsalotLol14:45
sirriffsalotmneptok: expansion slot? How do I tell?:$14:45
sirriffsalotmneptok: in that picture I'm connected to the top one14:45
ActionParsnipluser: is the module 'ahci' loaded in the system with the smaller output? I imagine the one with more text is the 'ok'one....14:45
* Erealz what command would i issue to find out why a certain page isn't loading and or having trouble connecting to it services like a shellaccount?14:45
mneptoksirriffsalot: that "top one" is an expansion card.14:45
sirriffsalotmneptok:  yea, I figured... What about that?14:46
knutremiPlease, at least tell me where to ask my question, if you haven't got any answers.14:46
mneptoksirriffsalot: that's probably the GeForce 8200.14:46
sirriffsalotmneptok: Ok?14:46
sirriffsalotmneptok: what's the point?:D14:46
sirriffsalotmneptok: want me to take it out?14:46
mneptoksirriffsalot: the mobo probably has the G100 embedded14:46
sirriffsalotmneptok: I've done it before14:46
sirriffsalotmneptok: I suppose the GeForce 8200 is better...14:46
luserActionParsnip: yes, the more output is the ok one and yes, it is ahci module is shown by lsmod also in the "broken" one14:46
mneptoksirriffsalot: what is it you are trying to do exactly?14:46
* Erealz what command would i issue to find out why a certain page isn't loading and or having trouble connecting to it services like a shellaccount?14:47
sirriffsalotmneptok: anyway where are we going with all of this?14:47
mneptoksirriffsalot: you're the one asking for help. you tell me.14:47
knutremiT_T14:47
Sidewinderknutremi, What do you mean by "go empty at random?"14:47
sirriffsalotmneptok: I just want the right nvidia driver installed..:) Haha14:47
luserActionParsnip: i don't understand why lspci doesn't show the "Kernel modules" line...14:47
ActionParsnipErealz: www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/   tried that14:47
Erealzit just me14:48
sirriffsalotmneptok: right now nvidia-settings tells me I have none installed..14:48
mneptoksirriffsalot: there is no "right" nVidia driver. nVidia issues a single, monolithic binary blob driver for Linux that supports the devices they choose.14:48
knutremiSidewinder: I save the files directly to FTP. Then for inexplicable reasons, some of them go empty in the meantime.14:48
luserActionParsnip: any idea?14:48
sirriffsalotmneptok: well I at least want some nvidia driver installed so my graphics won't be complete crap:)14:48
Erealzgod damn14:49
ActionParsnipluser: maybe it needs the 2.6.35 (or later) to work14:49
mneptoksirriffsalot: why do you need the proprietary driver from nVidia? what does the "nouveau" driver in the kernel lack that you need?14:49
ActionParsnipErealz: possibly a bad DNS14:49
sirriffsalotmneptok: trying to run a game in wine, and I've spent 12 hours trying to configure the graphics right in wine and the game itself so it'll be viewable at least...14:49
sa7elakhow to copy a directory with its content to another place from terminal ?14:49
luserActionParsnip: well, i hope it's not the reason... the 2.6.32 has the ability to load that module in menuconfig...14:49
sirriffsalotmneptok: it runs at 12-18 fps.... has to be driver missing14:50
sirriffsalotmneptok: and as it turns out there isn't one installed:P Explains a lot14:50
luserActionParsnip: is there anything else i can test?14:50
knutremiSidewinder: I have no idea if it happens as they're being saved, or something happens in the background without my intervention.14:50
mneptoksirriffsalot: if you want my honest opinion, if you want to run games, just install Windows. WINE is not a solution.14:50
Sidewinderknutremi, I'm very sorry but I just don't understand your question.14:50
ActionParsnipluser: what distro/versions are the boots14:51
icerootsa7elak: cp -r /path/to/dir /path/to/target14:51
sirriffsalotmneptok: that isn't an option right now, and many people run it absolutely fine. Would you mind telling me how to get a nvidia driver installed and just see how it goes? If you're right after that then there we go14:51
GeneralEaterHi.14:51
mneptoksirriffsalot: there is no driver missing. you are using the 2D-only "nouveau" open source nVidia driver that is built-in to the Linux kernel.14:51
L3topsirriffsalot: can you please tell me the output of apt-cache policy nvidia-current | grep Installed14:51
maddinwHello again.14:51
sirriffsalotL3top: hmm Installed: (none)14:51
maddinwUnfortunately my attempt did not work quite well...14:52
knutremiI need to figure out if gedit has problems saving to FTP or if it will remove file contents without my knowledge.14:52
sirriffsalotmneptok: Well, 2D explains a lot then! it's a 3D game:P14:52
mneptoksirriffsalot: be aware, there are TONS of people here every week that complain about how the proprietary nVidia driver has broken their system.14:52
L3topsirriffsalot: if I were you, I would sudo apt-get install nvidia-current-updates14:52
sirriffsalotmneptok: I'm one of them..:)14:52
GeneralEaterIs it possible to do a sort of "Factory Reset", where all my personal files are wiped from the hard drive, but the OS stays?14:52
mneptoksirriffsalot: and you want to install it anyway>14:52
mneptok!?14:52
sirriffsalotL3top: trying that then, finger crossed:)14:52
sirriffsalotsirriffsalot: I can just remove it again if it fails?:P14:52
L3topmneptok: there is a problem with 295.40 imo. The nvidia-current-updates package seems much happier.14:52
knutremiBecause my hard work is being irreversably deleted when I'm editing files stored on FTP through gedit.14:53
maddinwDr_Willis: I have added the line: udo su maddinw -c ssh -D 8000 -fN maddinw@ssh.silenceisdefeat.com14:53
mneptokL3top: i;m not talking about just recent events. i'm talking about what i have seen on this channel in the past 6 years.14:53
maddinwsudo su maddinw -c ssh -D 8000 -fN maddinw@ssh.silenceisdefeat.com14:53
gccsterActionParsnip, i tried it nothing happened every time i boot i have to click Enable Wireless on gnome to start the wireless adapter14:53
sirriffsalotL3top: nvidia-current-updates nvidia-settings-updates these two packages were going to be installed as a result... sound right?14:54
luserActionParsnip: the wotking one is ubuntu 10.10 and the "broken" one is debian squeeze14:54
luseri'm also asking in the debian community...14:54
ardianHi I have the classic gnome menu how can I add the minimize max and close button to the upper panel ?14:54
ardianlike in os x ?14:54
L3topnvidia has had the best proprietary support historically imo. If you just don't like closed source, I can respect that... but, we use nvidia extensively and I only dislike this set of drivers14:54
L3topyes sirriffsalot14:54
flowerpotGeneralEater, it's usually not that easy.  Something might have come with your version of ubuntu (I don't know though), but one method would be to just run a tool from a livecd to clean the drive, then re-install Ubuntu.14:55
mneptokL3top: you have opinion. i have 6 years of logs. :)14:55
maddinwDoes anyone know what I am doing wrong?14:55
sirriffsalotL3top: praying for some luck...:D14:55
sirriffsalotL3top: alright, shall I just reboot now when it's finished installing?14:56
GeneralEaterflowerpot, Okay, I'll do that then.14:56
ErealzActionParsnip i thought of that and changed the dns to google dns on my router to no avail? it weird becouse if i connect to my vpn the page loads up and i can get to my shell account login why else might it be14:56
flowerpotmaddinw, what are you trying to do?14:56
maddinwflowerpot: I am trying to get my SSH-Tunnel working at startup14:56
L3topmneptok: Again... I am sure you have ati problems, and intel problems... we use compositing and accelleration for h264 in our project, and nvidia has always worked just dandy... we auto detect and install... and it all works great, except this latest slew... your "opinion" is noted14:57
L3topyes sirriffsalot14:57
sirriffsalotL3top: haha:) cheers. rebooting then. *prays incessantly*14:57
maddinwflowerpot: so I edited /etc/init.d/rc.local14:58
flowerpotmaddinw, what's up with the first "udo su" in your line?14:58
flowerpotmaddinw, could you upload your rc.local and share it if it doesn't contain any sensitive information?14:58
maddinwflowerpot: bash didnt catch that anymore...it does not. I can upload it to pastebin.14:58
wolfcoremaddinw: you don't need _both_ sudo and su, only sudo14:59
sirriffsalotL3top: Now my system details says I have "GeForce G100/PCIe/SSE2 " as a driver:D14:59
c0deMasteranybody running openvpn ?  i'm the internet speed is extremely slow14:59
maddinwAlright...I will upload it anyway now.14:59
ardianGet Unity-Like Window Buttons On The Top any help about this14:59
L3topCheck performance sirriffsalot.14:59
sirriffsalotL3top: in what way?15:00
L3tophowever you did before :P15:00
sirriffsalotL3top: logging in to the game:P15:00
L3topsirriffsalot: as a side benefit... you can likely use multiple monitors, and enable twinview in the nvidia config gui.15:01
OrpheonI'm having big problems with wine and opengl15:01
maddinwflowerpot: http://pastebin.com/7r0TbwHM15:01
Orpheonit's complaining that it can't find opengl15:01
sirriffsalotL3top: don't have enough space for that15:01
sirriffsalotHmmmm15:01
sirriffsalotL3top: Hang on15:01
OrpheonI tried completely reinstalling the nvidia drivers, wine, mesa, and everything opengl-related I could find15:01
sirriffsalotL3top: FPS went from 12-18 to -25-30!!15:02
sirriffsalotL3top: you're my hero15:02
OrpheonI even tried copying 32 bit opengl libraries and stuck them in /usr/lib, /usr/lib32, /usr/local/lib15:02
sirriffsalotL3top: now my ego kicks in... how do I check which nvidia driver is installed? GeForce G100/PCIe/SSE2  I suppose is the name?:p15:02
L3topapt-cache policy nvidia-current-updates  will tell you specifics.15:03
sirriffsalotL3top: just out of wanting to learn, where do you learn all this stuff from? I'd like to be able to handle this myself in the future, haha:)15:03
maddinwsirriffsalot: experience and commitment.15:04
maddinwflowerpot: and idea what I should try out?15:04
sirriffsalotmaddinw: I have the latter and starting to get former15:04
Orpheonany wine experience?15:04
sirriffsalotL3top: But is there some webpage where they cover this very specifically? Ubuntupage of some kind?15:04
Orpheonor driver installation?15:04
sirriffsalotOrpheon: a little:)15:04
sirriffsalotOrpheon: a lot!15:05
MestreLionGuys, I'm having a weird bug in Software Center: "Turn On Recommendations" is not working: I sign in, it shows "submitting inventory", but nothing happens. No recommendations, and if I exit and open again, it shows the same Turn On"  button again. Any clues?15:05
Orpheongreat!15:05
Orpheoncan you please help me with this?15:05
L3topI do all of the graphics autodetection and configuration for a project that has a media player... I made the mistake of poking around in the source code trying to make more available, and now it's just sort of what I do. We went from only using nvidia, to just about everything out there. To summerize... just dig into some code somewhere.15:05
sirriffsalotL3top: Uhm, that command says among other things "295.49-0ubuntu0.1 "15:05
L3topcorrect... that is the driver you are using... 295.49.15:06
sirriffsalotL3top: I have no experience in "digging" in codes nor desire to try, I'd smash my computer by the end of a week15:06
sirriffsalotL3top: but... what does that mean? Is it "the latest"? The most stable??15:06
flowerpotmaddinw, I don't know if the sudo command will work, but I suggest you put this in your ~/.bashrc or ~.bash_profile files instead15:06
MestreLion(i've tried to delete all settings and configs (and keys) of Software Center, but no matter which account I sign in, Recommendations does not work. Any troubleshooting clues?15:06
OrpheonI execute a windows exe that has always worked for me these past 2 years15:07
Orpheonhttp://pastebin.com/RHEqt9xD15:07
Orpheonespecially these lines15:07
Orpheonerr:winediag:X11DRV_WineGL_InitOpenglInfo Direct rendering is disabled, most likely your OpenGL drivers haven't been installed correctly (using GL renderer "GeForce GTX 460 SE/PCIe/SSE2", version "1.4 (2.1.2 NVIDIA 295.49)").15:07
maddinwflowerpot: alright...I will reboot, try it out and give you feedback. Thank you so far.15:07
Orpheonerr:d3d_caps:WineD3D_CreateFakeGLContext Can't find a suitable iPixelFormat.15:07
Orpheonerr:d3d:InitAdapters Failed to get a gl context for default adapter15:07
OrpheonDirect3D8 is not available without OpenGL.15:07
FloodBot1Orpheon: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.15:07
flowerpotyou can remove the sudo su maddinw -c part15:07
Dr_WillisHmm. when reencoding a video. Ive noticed the thumbnail  frame changes. Anyone noticed a tool that would let me select what frame is used for the initial/thumbnail  frame? Be nice to have the grandkids face on the videos that star them. ;)15:07
bassoexit15:07
bassoso hardcore15:08
maddinwDr_Willis pointed out that rc.local runs with root permissions and thus will not know the public key I have put on the host.15:08
Dr_WillisMestreLion:  i find the software recommendations to be rahter... pointless..15:08
L3topwhat version is there is up to the cononical folks. I believe right now the most current is in the 302 range, but I don't test each one for stability... using 295.40 as buntu's stable version was a mistake imo... but what do I know... If you want to experiment you can check out xorg edgers PPA, they have bleeding edge debian packages.15:08
EtaleI have a question: I'm getting a new laptop tomorrow, and I want to install Linux on it. At first I was thinking of Gentoo, because it's the most customizable. But I understand that to install anything on it (even firefox) takes forever. What would you recommend? Ultimately, I want something that is like Ubuntu but isn't as heavy. Should I go with a low-fat version of Ubuntu, or perhaps with15:08
EtaleDebian?15:08
L3topsirriffsalot: ^15:08
mneptokL3top: like i said, it is opinion based on a very deep experience with Ubuntu users.15:08
EtaleI'm a noob at this point, but I have no problem learning as much as is needed. It will be fun for me.15:08
Dr_Willismaddinw:  personally id set up a script that does it all then run that script from rc.local - BUT ifyou are using encrypted homes that may be another issue i just thought of.15:08
icerootEtale: lubuntu15:08
icerootEtale: if you want a light system based on ubuntu15:09
maddinwDr_Willis: I do have /home encrypted.15:09
sirriffsalotL3top: I think I'll leave well enough alone for now, lol:D15:09
sirriffsalotL3top: thanks a million for your help!15:09
L3topmneptok: and mine is based on making all of these work without any user interaction at all... on any hardware with any display.15:09
L3topnp sirriffsalot.15:09
Dr_Willismaddinw:  then even at boot up the key files wont be getting read i belive...15:09
sirriffsalotmneptok: you too, thanks for your time!15:09
sirriffsalotAnd everyone else:)15:09
Orpheon@L3top: I tried xorg edgers. I couldn't even configure the nvidia server settings, my entire screen was distorted, so I went back to nvidia-current15:09
MestreLionDr_Willis: true, but a buggy Software CEnter that does not stick settings makes me a little worried about using it to buy software, for example15:09
Dr_Willismaddinw:  i never encrypt home. ;()15:09
ActionParsnipEtale: lubuntu is light, or install minimal then install fluxbox15:09
mneptokOrpheon: boot to a previous kernel and see if your nVidia drivers work there.15:10
Orpheonuhh15:10
flowerpotmaddinw, if you put the script in your ~/.bashrc or ~/.bash_profile it won't start the tunnel until you log in...  if you're cool with root or whatever process init runs as owning the tunnel, then just remove the sudo su stuff and try again.  Also, FYI, sudo su isn't necessary; sudo can run commands as another user.15:10
Orpheonhow do I boot to a previous kernel15:10
Orpheon?15:10
Dr_WillisMestreLion:  i dont plan on ever buying anything via software center.. actually i rarelyuse software center15:10
OrpheonI have a few backups15:10
Orpheonof these last months /usr and /home15:10
Orpheonif that helps15:10
zykotick9Orpheon: hold SHIFT after BIOS to get grub menu15:10
mneptokOrpheon: <esc> early in the boot to get a boot menu15:10
ActionParsnipOrpheon: hold shift at boot then select the old kernel15:10
Etaleiceroot, ActionParsnip, I see that on the wiki page of lubuntu it says: "low-RAM environment for netbooks, mobile devices and older PCs". My laptop is going to be a 8GB monster. Is it still a good option?15:10
cristian_cHi15:10
Orpheonok15:10
L3topagain Orpheon that is bleeding edge stuff... whether or not that days release is stable on whatever specific card you have is a bit of a coin toss... I was not trying to recommend it for anything other than experiment.15:11
MestreLiongood for you Dr_Willis.... But I still would like mine to work bug-free. Does anyone have any experience in Software CEnter settings and troubleshooting?15:11
cristian_cHow can I enable pinch gesture on my touchpad with ubuntu?15:11
icerootEtale: yes15:11
EtaleI just don't want all the junk in Ubuntu that I will never use.15:11
EtaleWhat would you say about Debian?15:11
Dr_WillisMestreLion: its also possible the slowdown/issues with the ubuntu servers are causing the problem.15:11
maddinwflowerpot: I will try it now without the sudo su stuff.15:11
EtaleHow close is the Debian experience from Ubuntu?15:11
flowerpotEtale, such as?  You may find that slightly more junk is preferable to slightly less junk on a desktop.15:11
cristian_cHow can I use this page: http://askubuntu.com/questions/11300/how-do-i-test-multi-gesture-capabilities-of-a-touchpad for enabling pinch?15:11
Dr_WillisEtale:  depends on what desktopps you install. ;)15:11
EtaleOXFCE15:12
EtaleSorry...15:12
EtaleI meant I want XFCE with compiz.15:12
zykotick9Etale: while ubuntu and debian are technically very similar, the two projects have very different goals - and are thus "very different", though technically similar ;)15:12
flowerpotIMO Ubuntu tends to "just work" and Debian requires a little more effort.15:12
Dr_Williswhy would you want xfce with compiz? xfce has its own window manager. ;015:12
SidewinderMestreLion, You might prefer Synaptic instead of Software Center; it's (Synaptic) in the repos.15:12
Etalezykotick9, I want an environment that is customizable, but also has the option of being easy to work with if I have to get something done fast.15:13
MestreLionDr_Willis: maybe, but I think it's unlikely... I've tried yesterday and today, in very differnt hours15:13
Dr_WillisMestreLion:  the servers have been problematic for 3+ days now15:13
EtaleDr_Willis, because I really like compiz, and XFCE is the lightest window manager I could find. For example compiz doesn't work on fluxbox.15:13
MestreLion... and it worked in a live session I've used yesterday15:13
Dr_WillisEtale:  xfce is a desktop that uses the xfwm window manager.15:13
Dr_WillisEtale:  fluxbox and compiz are both window managers...15:14
Dr_WillisEtale:  you can set up a compiz session to run whatever other extra programs you want and build your own desktop.15:14
EtaleBTW, I hear that Gentoo has the best package repository. Is it possible to use those packages in Debian/Ubuntu?15:14
Dr_WillisEtale:  'best' is vague and debateable.15:14
Dr_WillisEtale:  they use a sourced based system. so its more up to date. but can still have problems. and no they are not  compatable with ubuntu15:15
flowerpotEtale, it's best not to mix packages between distros.  There are small differences that can muck up the results (e.g. different paths).15:15
zykotick9Etale: and gentoo doesn't typically use "packages", it's a source based distro15:15
ActionParsnipEtale: ubuntu minimal + fluxbox + slim comes in at about 1.2Gb  then you'll need a network manager app like wicd if you want to use wifi easily15:15
EtaleDr_Willis, I don't really understand. If I want compiz to work, and I want it to be as lightweight as possible, then what would you suggest?15:15
Etaleflowerpot, thanks.15:15
Dr_WillisEtale:  compiz and lightweight are two very opposite things. :)15:15
MestreLionSidewinder:  i'm an ubuntu user since Karmic... synaptic is great if I want an in-depth tech details on a given package.... but I still would like Software Center to work properly, specially regarding SSO15:15
Dr_WillisEtale:  if you want light  and a decently featured desktop = Lubuntu, then lxde/lubuntu,15:15
EtaleActionParsnip, what's the difference between Ubuntu minimal and lubuntu?15:16
Dr_WillisEtale:  lightest = just a widnow manager with no extra apps. ie openbox15:16
EtaleDr_Willis, but would compiz work on openbox?15:16
zykotick9Etale: mini is the debian net-installer (text only) - with LOTS of options, including installing a base non-gui system, then adding what you actually want.15:16
ActionParsnipEtale: minimal is just kernel + boot loader + drivers15:17
MarcoFehi guys15:17
Dr_WillisEtale:  compiz and openbox are BOTH window managers..  they replace each other.15:17
ActionParsnipEtale: plus a few basic apps, all text based15:17
theadminEtale: That doesn't even make sense. One window manager does not work "on" another window manager. You can't run two at the same time.15:17
Dr_WillisEtale:  linux is all about layers. ;)15:17
Dr_Willisdesktop = a window manager + extra apps.15:17
theadminDr_Willis: Ha, that's a good one :)15:17
MestreLionbesides, the new revamped Software Center is one of the major, key Ubuntu selling points... so it is a bit weird that instead of trying to help with it, you are suggesting a 10+ years software.15:17
ActionParsnipEtale: lubunu adds an x server, LXDE, openbox and some applications like web browser, office productivity etc15:17
Dr_WillisMestreLion:  most people seemt o hate the software center.15:18
Dr_Willisim getting where i like the android market even less and less. ;)15:18
Orpheonback15:18
Orpheondidn't help15:18
MestreLionand most people hate Unity. Still, this is #ubuntu. If you hate it, use something else15:18
knutremiI wrote a more in-depth explaination of my FTP + gedit problem in the Ubuntu pastebin.15:18
Dr_Willisits very likely the reccomendation servers are slow/down. i can barely get apt-get to even work for the last 4+ days15:18
EtaleLet's say I install Debian. How different is that from installing lubuntu?15:18
knutremi!paste 99751215:19
SidewinderMestreLion, I totally understand; my use of SC is not that extensive so I don't have a definitive answer for you, sorry. Synaptic has always met my needs so I am much more familiar with it. Please keep in mind that both Synaptic and Software Center are merely gui front ends for apt-get15:19
knutremiUh that's not how I paste?15:19
knutremihttp://paste.ubuntu.com/997512/15:19
Dr_Willisand apt-get update - has been going on here for like 40 min now.. normally takes 40 sec. ;(15:19
MestreLionDr_Willis: that is not the problem. If I re-open SC, it suggests me trying to Turn On recommendations again, so that setting is not being saved15:19
MarcoFei've a problem with my audio...for example when use it with skype or google+ plugin to conference chat, after a bit time, audio is mute...anyone have this problem?15:20
vexaxvhey guys im using ubuntu 12.04 and got this error when trying to install "ia32-libs" through synaptic "Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/e/eglibc/libc6_2.15-0ubuntu10_i386.deb" what do i do?15:20
Dr_WillisMestreLion:  ive seen cases where people runs tuff as root and it writes config files to the users home.15:20
Dr_Willisvexaxv:  servers have been real slow last few days. try it again.15:20
g0thhi15:21
EtaleHow close is Sabayon to the Ubuntu experience?15:21
Dr_Willisvexaxv:  or switch to a non us server.15:21
ActionParsnipDr_Willis: my quantal install does that, sloooow over wifi15:21
L3top!poll | Etale15:21
ubottuEtale: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.15:21
vexaxvDr_Willis, thanks, and how do i switch?15:21
g0thin unity, how do I make it that if I fullscreen a window it is put on the "right side" of the left panel?15:21
Dr_Willisvexaxv:  not sure of the proper way these days15:21
g0that the moment the panel will appear on top of the window15:21
vexaxvDr_Willis, k well ill keep trying thanks man just got off my 14 hour shift so sweet and simple answer :P15:21
ActionParsnipvexaxv: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PackageManagerTroubleshootingProcedure  see step 515:21
maddinwIts me again. It worked now. Thank you very much Dr_Willis and flowerpot.15:22
tieinvDr_Willis: sudo apt-get update   Fetched 6,687 kB in 1min 1s (108 kB/s) :)15:22
Dr_Willisthere used to be a mirrorselect tool15:22
L3topDr_Willis: I think something funny is going on with the repos. People have been complaining the last few days about speed.15:22
g0this there a configuration tool about how the panel behaves with respect to a (fullscreened or not) window15:22
Dr_Willistieinv:  i was getting stuff in B/sec the other day15:22
Dr_Willisbbl15:23
MestreLionSidewinder: I'm aware of that. And I think that nowadays Synaptics is a little lost... newbies prefer SC, and it's great because of the reviews (if you don't know *what* you want, you search for it). Skilled users go Aptitude or apt-get. So Synaptics use-case now is a bit weak15:23
L3topYou can add deb mirror://mirrors.ubuntu.com/mirrors.txt  $DISTRO main restricted universe multiverse    et al to the top of your /etc/apt/sources.list and it will find the closest best it can15:23
MestreLioneven aptitude has an experimental gtk frontend15:23
L3topreplacing $DISTRO with your distribution.15:24
morsnowskiis there a specific make or model for hybrid TV cards that runs on ubuntu with the least amount of wrestling?15:24
SidewinderMestreLion, As you so accurately stated earlier, it's all about choices. :)15:24
EtaleOkay... Look, I'm a novice. I want to install something that is bare-bones but has the potential to be customized to the point of being easy to use. (Which also means that I want the possibility of using binary packages as opposed to bare-bones Gentoo.) Since this is an Ubuntu chatroom, I figured it would be a good place to get advice about Ubuntu-related distros. Ultimately, after some15:24
Etalecustomization, I want an Ubuntu-like environment. But I would also like to be bare-bones and customizable and for it to have a very good repository of packages.15:24
knutremiI'm better off posting about my gedit + FTP problem in the Ubuntu forums right?15:24
theadminEtale: Use the minimal Ubuntu setup, simple as that -- install only things you want from that point on15:24
deejay31Yay I finally managed to transfer all my stuff to ubuntu15:24
ActionParsnipEtale: install ubuntu minimal then install fluxbox, its as barebomes a desktop as it goes15:24
Etaletheadmin, thanks.15:25
MestreLionso for me synaptics is a weak software... it is less friendly than SC, it has no reviews, and it has less features than aptitude or apt-get15:25
ActionParsnipEtale: did say that earlier...15:25
L3topThis channel is for tech support of ubuntu. Asking whether or not you should install other distributions is not its purpose Etale. Your queries are going to receieve arbitrary answers and they are clogging up the channel. Try ubuntu-offtopic or bots.15:25
EtaleIn what sense is bare-bones Ubuntu different from bare-bones Debian? Does Debian also have same repository for apt-get, but also has more customizability?15:25
Sidewinderknutremi, That would be my suggestion; if your question is not answered to your satisfaction here, try ubuntuforms.org.15:26
EtaleOkay, L3top.15:26
ActionParsnipEtale: ubuntu and debian repos are seperate15:26
Karmaonis ppa.launchpad.net down?15:26
EtaleActionParsnip, which is bigger?15:26
ActionParsnipEtale: no idea, why do you care?15:26
Sidewinderoops, ubuntuforums.org.   Sorry. :(15:26
MestreLionEtale: both have live CDs... try them out15:26
EtaleThe more the better.15:26
theadminEtale: Debian and Ubuntu are *unrelated*. They use different repositories, Debian is much less up-to-date most of the time (especially the "stable" branch), the two are incompatible.15:26
EtaleOkay.15:27
ActionParsnipEtale: not strictly15:27
MestreLion"debian is less up-to-date" is very innacurate info. unstable and testing are usually much more up-to-date than Ubuntu, since they are rolling repos15:27
L3tophttp://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ Karmaon15:27
L3toplooks like it is15:27
flowerpotmaddinw, pleasure to be of help15:28
ActionParsnipEtale: Ubuntu could compile every app with minimal functionality, then Debian could compile the same with every feature enabled with zero optomisation. Which is better?15:28
theadminMestreLion: I *did* mention the stable branch specifically.15:28
MestreLionEtale: mos of your questions are easily answered by either google OR by trying out their live CD.15:28
y0wy-Karmaon: http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ppa.launchpad.net15:28
amirzaim_Even though that Ubuntu is based from Debian, but both Ubuntu and Debian are not same. They have some different function and features.15:28
ActionParsnipKarmaon: do you mean this https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas works here15:29
theadminHowever, please note that this channel is for Ubuntu support *only*, Debian (and especially stuff like Gentoo) are highly offtopic here15:29
KarmaonActionParsnip: no the repositories are down, so i can't update some of my packages15:29
KrenairIs there any easy way to have two versions of a package (e.g. google-chrome-stable and google-chrome-unstable) installed at the same time?15:29
ActionParsnipKarmaon: then hang while they come up, could ask in #launchpad15:29
MestreLiontheadmin: you said "specially", not "specifically. Debian's Testing and Unstable repos are always more bleeding edge than Ubuntu's, by definition. They are rolling distros, Ubuntu is not15:29
theadminMestreLion: Bah, pardon my wording. Well yes, you're right. However, please look at my previous message. Debian is offtopic here.15:30
MestreLionyoure right. I also suggested Etale to either google or to try live cds... much better than asking here15:31
flowerpotKrenair, http://serverfault.com/questions/279329/can-i-have-two-versions-of-the-same-package-in-an-apt-repository15:31
xtuhi, how to read new in command line in ubuntu?15:32
flowerpotKrenair, see the "Caveat" in the reply15:32
MestreLionSo, back to Ubuntu... anyone experienced in troubleshooting one of its flagship products, the Software Center? I would like where it stores its settings, how can I reset it, and find out why some settings are not "sticking"15:32
flowerpotxtu, what do you mean by "read new in command"?15:32
Orpheonalso to ubuntu, where could I get some 32-bit opengl libraries?15:33
OrpheonWine needs them apparently15:33
xtuflowerpot,  well, i want to read news in command line, or in console, not gui.15:33
MestreLionOrpheon: doesn't apt-get wine download them automatically?15:34
Orpheonwell15:34
OrpheonI tried reinstalling wine15:34
Orpheonbut it still complains that it can't initialize opengl15:34
Orpheonpeople in #winehq have been saying that's because I'm lacking opengl 32 bit libs15:34
L3topOrpheon: have you gone into wine configuration? I don't really use it, but you may have to tick something there15:34
Orpheonwell, yeah15:34
compdocis opengl something you have to install seperatly?15:35
Orpheonthere isn't anything besides enabling/disabling hardware acceleration that has anything to do with this15:35
Orpheonalso15:35
naxilhello15:35
OrpheonI tried editing the wine registry, DirectDrawRenderer to gdi15:35
Orpheondidn't work either15:35
naxili need a little help15:35
naxilfor enter on monitor setup from Terminal? i have cancel the "monitor Setup" from panel (gnome)15:36
Deihmosisn't it strange that ubuntu works much better virtually that installed on my laptop? WHen I install it my fans go crazy, sound barely works and a host of other problems15:36
flowerpotxtu, you would use  a newsreader, i imagine.  tons of newsreaders are available on ubuntu; since i don't use them myself i cannot recommend any, but google probably can.15:36
sirriffsalotL3top: I wonder... i've got cpufreq installed, but I can't get it to run at 2.40Ghz, it always goes back to 1.20ghz or so... Is there a graphical user interface for configuring this?15:36
ActionParsnipDeihmos: probably some weird acpi15:36
xtuflowerpot, ok, i got it, thanks.15:37
ActionParsnipDeihmos: is it an acer or an alienware?15:37
DeihmosI have an HP envy that has two video cards15:37
ActionParsnipDeihmos: that'll do it too15:37
vexaxvanyone know why in ubuntu 12.04 the shutdown process hangs? im forced to hold down my power button..kinda annoying..15:37
L3topsirriffsalot: cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep -i cores15:37
flowerpotvexaxv, does it hang when you run shutdown -h now from a terminal?15:37
ActionParsnipvexaxv: if you run: sudo shutdown -h now     does it die?15:38
vexaxverrr..lemme try15:38
vexaxvill get back to u guys in a sec15:38
xtuhi, is usernet is not free to use?15:38
angel282Hello, I recently got a dedicated server with ubuntu 10.04 LTS (lucid) and I was wondering if it possible to upgrade the server to higher version using the ssh and idea? or good tutorial?15:38
vexaxvno15:38
sirriffsalotL3top: cpu cores    : 2 cpu cores    : 215:39
vexaxvTry `shutdown --help' for more information. thats what i get15:39
zykotick9vexaxv: try "sudo shutdown -P now", if -h doesn't work15:39
deejay31Hey15:39
ActionParsnip!upgrade | angel28215:39
ubottuangel282: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade15:39
vexaxvnope15:39
vexaxvwont shutdown15:39
ActionParsnipangel282: you can upgrade straight to precise from lucid15:40
deejay31Who here uses a ZNC15:40
theadminvexaxv: Try appending "reboot=bios" to the kernel line.15:40
vexaxvif i click shutdown it hangs at the ubuntu loading splash screen15:40
IdleOnedeejay31: people in #znc do15:40
vexaxvk i did15:40
deejay31Oh ok15:40
deejay31Grrrr15:40
Kaduptmvexaxv try this: sudo gedit /etc/default/grub15:41
zykotick9!gksudo | Kaduptm vexaxv15:41
ubottuKaduptm vexaxv: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)15:41
maiklshi. were ubuntu saves wifi config? Like I made adhoc AP, but I want to see the config file. Were should I look for it?15:42
sirriffsalotL3top: what was that for?:D15:42
theadminKaduptm: Please refrain from using "sudo" and "su" for graphical applications. Use their GUI counterparts, "gksudo" and "gksu".15:42
Kaduptmand change: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet acpi=force"15:42
zykotick9maikls: Network Manager doesn't save the wireless to a file... it's stored in a protected database (by default)15:42
Kaduptmok... my bad15:43
flowerpotmaikls, not sure what you mean by "wifi config," but the DHCP config stuff is located in files like /var/lib/dhcp/dhclient-2203de08-09c1-4415-a03c-882ba4217f8c-eth0.lease15:43
vexaxvk now what15:43
flowerpotthere should be an entry for your wlan15:43
L3topsirriffsalot: I am not sure... I am having a senior moment, I don't know if that 2.4 is supposed to be cumulative of the multiple cores, or if what you are reading should be the combined speed. I am still waking up... I am grabbing cpufreq now, have never used it.15:43
maiklsflowerpot: thx, zykotick9  - i dont need password, I just want to see how that ad-hoc configuration looks in .conf file15:43
vexaxvKaduptm, now what15:43
sirriffsalotL3top: cool! Thanks for your time!15:43
angel282ActionParsnip: Great... action.. I tried to upgrade using the "sudo do-release-upgrade" command but I get "no new release found. I think it because the hosting company changed the sources.list any idea? should I changed it back to the ubuntu main source.list?15:44
flowerpotmaikls, maybe the ip command?15:44
zykotick9angel282: LTS->LTS Upgrades aren't offerend (by default) until the point release (sometime next couple of months)15:44
zykotick9!schedule | angel28215:45
ubottuangel282: The Ubuntu Precise Pangolin release schedule can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule15:45
maiklsflowerpot: that gives me not what I want. The whole idea is - I'm runing gentoo but on 2nd laptop ubuntu. And I just not cannot make working adhoc on gentoo system, but on ubuntu its working like a charm. I just want to se what i'm doing wrong in gentoo - to compare  both .conf files.15:46
L3topwow repos are braindamage slow...15:46
sirriffsalot:D15:46
L3topsirriffsalot: not to be silly... but is your scaling multiplier right in bios?15:46
sirriffsalotL3top: qué?15:47
maiklsflowerpot: in gentoo it saves it in /etc/conf.d/net15:47
maiklsbut in ubuntu it is empty15:47
y0wy-maikls, did u try: ps aux, just to see the command?15:47
sirriffsalotL3top: the bios I have in this computer is dated 2009 ... might be outdated, but how do I check if that is so?15:47
maiklsy0wy-: what does ps aux do? ;/15:48
flowerpottry ps - ef15:48
zykotick9maikls: i realize you don't believe me (or don't want to) - but N-M doesn't save stuff to config files...15:48
maiklszykotick9:  ok, will try in different way15:48
L3topthe multiplier in bios which sets the clock speed... bioses can be very diffrerent. I would look at a manual for your board/computer15:48
theadminzykotick9: Uh, in Linux everything is a file. Even if NetworkManager uses some awkward gnome pseudo-registry thing such as dconf or gconf, those still store their data in files. If not those, what else?15:49
sirriffsalotL3top: not sure there is a function of that kind in my bios at all...15:49
zykotick9theadmin: yes yes - thanks for that totally unhelpful comment ;)15:49
jmin unix, even Jesus is a file15:49
theadminzykotick9: No, I'm just trying to understand your point -- *where* does NetworkManager store configuration?15:49
Kaduptmanyone have this problem?! ubuntu tweak 0.7.1 doesnt save cong after reboot...15:50
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zykotick9theadmin: N-M reliese on some DM protected files (somewhere).  N-M can't do wireless without GDM/LightDM/KDM/etc. because of the permissions on saving the wireless info/credentials15:51
L3topthere pretty much has to be... if it can take different chips... I mean... maybe ions dont have them or integrated cpus... I dont know... I don't use those guys as anything but plug n play slim clients... I open the bios and set it to pxe boot and thats it.15:51
theadminzykotick9: Now *that* is one weird way to store configurations, indeed >.<15:51
zykotick9theadmin: i have a word for it - but it's not #ubuntu permitted ;)15:51
sirriffsalotL3top: checking again then... rebooting:D15:52
ActionParsnipKaduptm: I suggest you contact the ubuntu tweak maintainers15:53
ActionParsniptheadmin: ${HOME}/.gconf/system/networking/connections/   according to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=104303915:53
theadminActionParsnip: Hm, but that's just gnome's gconf thing15:54
ActionParsniptheadmin: sure15:54
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vitaldHello, can someone help me with setup a microphone?15:55
ActionParsnip!details | vitald15:56
ubottuvitald: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."15:56
AminosAmigosHello15:58
naxilhello15:58
vitaldI'm running Xubuntu 12.04 (updated). When I try to record a sound through my microphone I got a noise. I tried it in Audacity15:58
ActionParsnipvitald: is it anything like the original sound?15:58
naxilplease i have a strange problem. I see the name of my monitor (i have two monitor). What i can do for not see the name on screen? i use gnome 10.0415:58
bedreamerAnybody mind if I use this channel to learn about IRC15:58
ActionParsnipvitald: is the microphone part of a laptop?15:58
AminosAmigosis it possible to reposition the icons in th unity launcher ?15:58
ActionParsnipAminosAmigos: sure, long click then move it up or down15:59
maddinwHello again...15:59
sirriffsalotL3top: I really can't find any such function in the BIOS...15:59
vitaldmic isn't on laptop, sound is but with noise15:59
L3topsirriffsalot: where are you getting the 1.2 from?16:00
sirriffsalotRunning an acer aspire x3200machine ..16:00
AminosAmigosLoL at first it only moved the hole launcher but now it worked strange :D thnx ActionParsnip16:00
sirriffsalotL3top: The 1.2?16:00
maddinwI have been here a bit before and I would like to ask another question.16:00
L3topghz.16:00
sirriffsalotL3top: Ah, from cpufreq-info -m16:00
deejay31How can I remove the ubuntu documentation message on logon?16:00
maddinwflowerpot: maybe you remember me ;)16:00
maddinwI have taken flowerpots advice and put the command to open the tunnel into ~/.bashrc16:01
sirriffsalotL3top: it shows two "analyzing CPU:" sections and both say "current CPU frequency is 1.20 GHz."16:01
maddinwBut not when I open up a console it throws an error message that it can't listen to the port the tunnel runs on.16:01
maddinw.peak16:02
bedreamerI'm using irsii. Is it easy to suppress all the 'has joined' messages?16:02
zykotick9!quietirssii | bedreamer16:03
maddinwIs there any way I can make it check for an existing tunnel and not try to open it if it finds one?16:03
zykotick9!quietirssi | bedreamer16:03
ubottubedreamer: To ignore joins, parts, quits in irssi:  /ignore #ubuntu +JOINS +PARTS +QUITS16:03
smallit's very hard to find new soft which i just installed at ubuntu 12.0416:03
smallhard to use16:03
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sirriffsalotL3top: you given up too?:D16:03
theadminbedreamer: /ignore * JOINS PARTS QUITS NICKS16:04
Orpheondoes anyone have any more ideas for my wine/opengl problems?16:04
bedreamerThanks ubottu. Much better :-)16:04
sirriffsalotOrpheon: what's the problem?16:04
naxilbedreamer not run16:04
L3topsirriffsalot: no... I am trying to figure out how to use this tool... and I am in a few other chats atm.. just be patient with me.16:04
OrpheonI run some exe with wine through console: this error log16:04
zykotick9theadmin: i didn't know you could wildcard the channel!  thanks!16:05
sirriffsalotL3top: I do apologize, haha:)16:05
Orpheonhttp://pastebin.com/RHEqt9xD16:05
Orpheonin particular, three lines16:05
theadminzykotick9: lol um, no problem?16:05
sirriffsalotOrpheon: what exe?16:05
Orpheon34516:05
Orpheona game16:05
L3topsirriffsalot: all I have available is cpufreqd... and that command is not recognized... and... I am very tired.16:05
Orpheonmade in Game Maker16:05
naxilhello16:05
Orpheonit worked before an update I made a few days ago16:05
sirriffsalotOrpheon: oh, hmm16:05
Orpheonubuntu 12.04 64-bit here16:06
sirriffsalotL3top: alright, sleep well:)16:06
sirriffsalotOrpheon: You're trying to run your own made game?16:06
Orpheongood night16:06
Orpheonwell, almost16:06
Orpheonyes16:06
OrpheonI use it as a test now16:06
Orpheonbecause it's always worked before16:06
L3topsirriffsalot: I am still working... just not waking up... I can't sleep atm...16:06
Orpheonand because it takes little time to execute16:07
mafiaboyubuntu 12.04 too unstable for now as compared to 10.0416:07
DoctorMonocularhey L3Top, a little update -- I tried putting that new config info into .bash_profile, and .profile, and I thought I'd cracked the case when I found at the end of my .bashrc file a line refining the PATH, but removing that didn't help. So I'm still at the point where I can run ruby if I manually source bash_profile when I open a terminal, and I still can't run rails because it's looking for a wonky path to ruby1.8. What do you16:07
DoctorMonocularthink could cause bash_profile to not load?16:07
sirriffsalotL3top: oh, well don't beat yourself up, I'm happy!16:07
OrpheonGame Maker itself, or programs that do not use directX, run well16:07
ActionParsnipmafiaboy: look at how mature Lucid is compared to Precise16:07
DaraelHaving a problem on several machines since they were upgraded to Precise.  The settings for keyboard layouts are ignored, and the layout is permamently set to whatever the default for that account was before the upgrade, but behaves as though all the check-boxes under "options" were unset.  The other layouts I have configured are selectable from the indicator, but doing so has sod all effect.  That means I can't access QWERTY layouts 16:07
L3topwolfcore might be able to help you... I was unaware of bash_profiles existence/use16:07
sirriffsalotOrpheon: Hmm, wine is very explicit in detailing events, most of those lines are insignificant to the actual problem as far as I  know... But I really have no idea how what you're trying to do works16:07
DoctorMonocularL3top, is he around?16:08
mafiaboyActionParsnip : yea but i switched to it thinking that it would be stable16:08
sirriffsalotOrpheon: only thing I can suggest is to undo what you did to when it was working16:08
mafiaboycrashes a lot16:08
Orpheonsirriffsalot: I tried un- and reinstalling pretty much everything I could possibly think of16:08
Orpheonasking around16:08
ActionParsnipmafiaboy: upgrade or clean install?16:08
Orpheonand googling around16:08
sirriffsalotOrpheon: backup files, reinstall entire ubuntu?:)16:08
Orpheonmost of the people told me I need a 32-bit opengl lib16:08
L3tophe does not make me aware of his whereabouts since he got loose from his chain.16:08
OrpheonI have backups of /home and /usr16:09
Orpheonof a month ago16:09
DaraelDoctorMonocular: As I recall, .profile and family only load in a login shell, which your standard terminal emulator is not.  Stick the lines (whatever they are; I just came in) in .bashrc instead?16:09
ActionParsnipOrpheon: backup /etc too16:09
OrpheonI'll do so from now on, ok16:09
Orpheonalso16:09
OrpheonI tried copy-pasting some libs from the backup into my current /usr16:10
flowerpotmaddinw, yes16:10
Orpheonis this bad?16:10
DoctorMonocularL3top, you need to keep track of these things man, you're falling down on the job here16:10
mafiaboyActionParsnip : i did a fresh install16:10
PrsmWhere should I go for general computer talk?16:10
L3topsirriffsalot: cat /proc/cpu | grep -i mhz16:11
flowerpotOne way to check, if you're using IPv4, would be: lsof -i 4TCP@remotehost:2216:11
sirriffsalotL3top: cat: /proc/cpu: No such file or directory16:11
L3topsirriffsalot: cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep -i mhz16:11
L3topsorry16:11
sirriffsalotL3top: mate, you're helping a lot of people, great, but sleep is important!!16:11
Orpheon8 hours per sleep16:11
Orpheonis what you usually need16:12
L3topI am in charge of a baby... cant sleep.16:12
DoctorMonocularDarael, yeah I did that, and it works, but I was afraid I was doing something wrong, I'm really new to all this and I don't know exactly where stuff should sit16:12
sirriffsalotL3top: cpu MHz        : 1200.000 power management: ts ttp tm stc 100mhzsteps hwpstate cpu MHz        : 1200.000 power management: ts ttp tm stc 100mhzsteps hwpstate16:12
flowerpot4 - specifies IPv4 (6 would specify IPv6).  TCP - specifies TCP (as opposed to UDP).  @remotehost - the hostname of the remote host.  :22 - specifies the port, in this case 22 for ssh16:12
ugurhede16:12
sirriffsalotL3top: should have slept before that then=(16:12
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Prsmcan someone please telnet 80.229.207.254 50007 and see if it works?16:13
L3topspeaking of which he is waking up, so I will be less avail... look for a manual on your PC and check bios settings explained there sirriffsalot... afk16:14
jellybellieIm using Ubuntu classic, 12.04, And IM stuck in chinese. PLEASE HELP.16:14
sirriffsalotL3top: cheers:)16:14
Diddy403Im having a problem where I don't have an option for Appearance --> Visual Effects on Ubuntu. I have installed the AMD Proprietary Driver and all is working, but I cant add visual effects16:14
jellybelliesome in english, most in chinese16:14
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ActionParsnipMerceng: connects ok16:15
jellybelliegnome-shell actually16:15
theadminMerceng: I connected, but it doesn't ask for anything, just a hanging connection16:15
jellybellieno idea why it switched16:15
Mercengok16:15
Mercengdisconnect please16:15
ActionParsnipMerceng: done16:15
Mercengit's spamming me for some reason16:15
theadminMerceng: Done.16:15
jellybellieI dont speak chinese :(16:16
Merceng82.9.34.7716:16
Mercengplease d/c16:16
terafl0psjellybellie, can you click on your username in the upper right hand corner and open "system settings"16:16
terafl0psThere should be a "language support" option in there.16:17
armence /join #python-dev16:17
jellybellieterafl0ps: I can get terminal16:17
jellybellieI think its gnome-shell16:17
shuktyhi i need a fast hint ... i lost some files  and i need them back. .... os windows7 ( not this computer .... )16:17
sw0rdfishhey my wifi network is the one that has internet... and so if I connect to it and connect to a LAN with an ethernet cable will my 12.04 automatically figure out which one has internet?16:17
DaraelHaving a problem on several machines since they were upgraded to Precise.  The settings for keyboard layouts are ignored, and the layout is permamently set to whatever the default for that account was before the upgrade, but behaves as though all the check-boxes under "options" were unset.  The other layouts I have configured are selectable from the indicator, but doing so has sod all effect.  That means I can't access QWERTY layouts 16:18
jellybellieterafl0ps: got it16:18
sw0rdfishand use that for internet?16:18
Diddy403Im having a problem where I don't have an option for Appearance --> Visual Effects on Ubuntu. I have installed the AMD Proprietary Driver and all is working, but I cant add visual effects. Using Precise16:18
terafl0psjellybellie: Great, did everything switch back to English?16:18
theadminshukty: Windows is not supported here, try ##windows (other than that, Testdisk (Photorec, rather), Recuva and some other file recovery software can help)16:18
jellybellieno16:18
ActionParsnipshukty: use your backups, windows support is in ##windows16:19
sw0rdfishhey my wifi network is the one that has internet... and so if I connect to it and connect to a LAN with an ethernet cable will my 12.04 automatically figure out which one has internet? .... and use that for internet?16:20
terafl0psjellybellie: if you go into "install/remove languages" what languages are checked ?16:20
kjm##windows16:20
Daraeljellybellie: I'm not entirely sure about gnome-shell, but the Unity search will often match the English name even when you're in another language, so searching for "language" will usually turn the language-settings tool up.16:20
jellybellieterafl0ps: not sure16:21
jellybelliein chinese, most, except top three16:21
sw0rdfishand I'm hoping I could share the wifi internet with my desktop (either through a LAN router or connect them directly to each other)16:21
theadmin!ics | sw0rdfish16:21
ubottusw0rdfish: If you want to share the internet connection of your Ubuntu machine with other machines in the network see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing16:21
Diddy403!compiz16:22
ubottuCompiz (compositing window manager), for a howto see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager and more help #compiz16:22
delacMobile broadband (3G usb stick) is always disabled on boot or after inserting the stick. This prevents the connection from starting automatically. Any way to set Mobile broadband to enabled by default?16:22
abhijitruckshi16:22
jellybellieterafl0ps: how many down is english?16:22
abhijitruckshow do i change launcher hot edge to bottom cornor?16:22
flowerpotmaddinw, you can also use netstat to check what processes are using what tcp ports (over ipv4) with: netstat -4tap16:22
jellybellieI see Chhattisgarhi, chinese, Min Nan, Mari, Eastern, Shuswap, and Walser, the rest of the list is in chinese16:23
maddinwflowerpot: thank you...this will be helpful.16:23
jellybellieswear to god, it just changed, no idea why16:23
flowerpot-4 = limit to ipv4.  -t = limit to tcp.  -a = show all connections, listening and otherwise.  -p = show process name16:23
abhijitrucks:-|16:23
terafl0psjellybellie, I count English as th 36th language in the list.16:23
flowerpotdoesn't look like netstat can filter on its own by port # like lsof, so you'd have to grep, sed, awk, or perl yourself some extra detail for the script logic16:24
ActionParsnipflowerpot: ooh like that, making an alias now :)16:24
terafl0psin the "installed languages" list16:24
kjmquit16:24
maddinwI did netstat -4tap | grep 800016:25
ActionParsnipflowerpot: was going to make a UDP joke too but couldn't be sure you got it :D16:25
abhijitruckshuh?16:25
DaraelActionParsnip: That's /terrible/.16:25
ActionParsnipDarael: lots16:25
jellybellieargh, the repos are lagging16:26
ActionParsnipjellybellie: tried apt-fast ?16:26
jellybellieActionParsnip: what is that?16:26
ActionParsnipjellybellie: a script to replace apt-get, uses axel16:26
jellybellieI thought you were kidding...16:27
ActionParsnipjellybellie: downloads from multiple sources16:27
ActionParsnipjellybellie: its a thingf16:27
jellybellieapt is usually fast, the ubuntu repos are lagging hard for me.16:27
stiltzkinHello all, this is not a critical issue or anything (this is basically throwaway hardware) but I'm wondering why 12.04 is randomly freezing on my old desktop computer. I did tail -f /var/log/syslog to see what's happening when it freezes, here's what it looks like: http://i.imgur.com/Wstm3.jpg16:27
jellybellieterafl0ps: what language pack is english?16:28
jellybellielanguage-pack-???-base16:28
Daraeljellybellie: en, probably.  Possibly en-$COUNTRYCODE.16:28
stiltzkinAs you can see, it just keeps trying to enumerate USB devices with MTP for some reason. I don't have any devices that use MTP attached, so this is confusing. Basically I just want to understand whether this is most likely hardware or software related.16:28
sebastianhello, i need some help with gsynaptics16:28
cristi22hei i instal windows over ubuntu 12.04 and i want to reinstal grub haw i can do?16:29
Darael!grub | cristi2216:29
ubottucristi22: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)16:29
bosthey man do you see me?16:29
n1ckn4me09876543I downloaded Soundblaster X-Fi linux driver, now I have to install it, the readme file tells me: << In terminal,16:29
n1ckn4me098765431) Goto source directory16:29
n1ckn4me09876543 2) Execute make command as root16:29
n1ckn4me09876543  make16:29
n1ckn4me09876543    make install >> what's the command to install programs/driver16:29
FloodBot1n1ckn4me09876543: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.16:29
jellybellieDarael: no16:29
ActionParsnipjellybellie: sudo apt-get install axel16:29
BostXyea I do16:29
ActionParsnipjellybellie: then visit here: http://www.mattparnell.com/linux/apt-fast/16:29
ActionParsnipjellybellie: grab apt-fast.sh and mark it as executable, I suggest you rename it to apt-fast and copy it to /usr/bin16:30
jellybelliesh@, I installed Kashubian16:30
Daraeljellybellie: en is definitely the language code used in packages for US English.  I think UK English is en-gb.16:30
sebastianhey guys i need some help, i can't initialize gsynaptics, and i cant find the xorg.conf archive16:30
ActionParsnipjellybellie: you can then use:  sudo apt-fast upgrade16:30
flowerpotmaddinw, if you're running netstat to check for a tcp connection from localhost:someport to remotehost:8000, then you don't need to include -a in netstat16:30
jellybellieDarael: what package do you have installed?16:30
terafl0psjelliebellie, What happened when you tried to reset English in the "language support" tool ?16:30
DoctorMonocularso, when I run "rails c" I get this error: bash: /usr/local/bin/rails: /usr/bin/ruby1.8: bad interpreter: No such file or directory -- which seems like it's looking for ruby on the path "/usr/local/bin/rails: /usr/bin/ruby1.8" which is obviously wrong. It looks like there's an extra space in a config file somewhere -- where might that file be?16:30
jellybellieActionParsnip: I will definitely try it.16:30
jellybellielanguage-pack-??16:31
Daraeljellybellie: language-pack-en and language-pack-en-base.16:31
jellybelliek16:31
ActionParsnipjellybellie: newer version here https://github.com/ilikenwf/apt-fast16:31
flowerpotDoctorMonocular, someone else had the same problem yesterday. I don't know how his case turned out, but it's probably not a problem specific to your case.16:31
jellybellieDarael: ubuntu 12.04?16:31
DaraelActionParsnip: Axel works these days, then?  Last time I looked at it (about four years ago, I confess) it liked to segfault.16:32
Daraeljellybellie: That's right.  Been the same since forever, though.16:32
stiltzkinAnyone know what this "udevd failed to execute mtp-probe" means? http://i.imgur.com/Wstm3.jpg16:32
ActionParsnipjellybellie: ok stick to the first one :)16:33
jellybelliethis makes no sense, I didnt install anything...16:33
jellybellieActionParsnip: I will try it16:33
ActionParsnipDarael: works great here16:33
jellybelliebut now, Im trying to get english back [:16:33
abhijitrucksunity is getting ridiculus on ubuntu 12.04... :( i am gonna try gnome 316:33
DaraelActionParsnip: Good to know.  Four years is, after all, a long time.16:33
jellybellieI cannot read the git hub in chinese16:33
abkarchhey guys. I just installed ubuntu 12.04 on my laptop and everything went fine. I then used easyBCD from windows to add it to the boot list. Anyway, upon choosing to boot ubuntu, i get a black screen. I dont get a purple ubuntu loading screen before it or anything, it just goes straight to a black screen. If this helps at all, pressing the power button instantly turns off the laptop, which in my experience usually means no OS is boot16:33
stiltzkinabkarch, have you tried recovery mode?16:34
jellybelliethis is crazy16:34
smerzabkarch, also check disk activity to verify your theory16:34
smerz(to be sure. never hurts)16:35
abhijitruckswhoa!!! how do i install gnome in ubuntu 12.04??? help! terminal says gnome-shell is not available16:35
jellybelliek, its not change to english16:35
Daraelabkarch: Is there any reason you didn't just use GRUB for the main bootloader?  I don't think the Windows bootloader understands Linux, and chainloading GRUB from it requires dumping a grub image to a file, or did last time I tried, about six months ago.16:35
abkarchim not really an experienced linux user, how would i use GRUB?16:35
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abhijitruckssomeone help... how do i install gnome???16:36
jellybellieits select to english16:36
jellybelliebut not english16:36
Daraelabkarch: It should have been installed with Ubuntu.  If it wasn't, something strange has been going on.  Did you use WUBI?  (the "install inside windows" option).16:36
abkarchI burnt to a CD16:36
zykotick9!notunity | abhijitrucks16:36
ubottuabhijitrucks: Ubuntu 11.10 uses GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic16:36
abkarchits probably there, i dont know how to use it Darsel16:37
Darael!grub | abkarch: See also16:37
ubottuabkarch: See also: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)16:37
jellybellieand I cannot select the window text to to translate16:37
terafl0psjellybellie, this may help: http://i45.tinypic.com/2r3y2xk.png16:37
stiltzkinabhijitrucks, sudo apt-get install gnome-shell last time I checked16:37
Daraelabkarch: Incidentally, the tab key will autocomplete a nick, which is great for time-saving and making sure of spelling.  Unfortunately, I have to go (unexpected, my apologies) but I hope someone can sort you out.16:38
jellybellielookin16:38
abkarchk16:38
terafl0psEnglish is the 36th language down in the "installed languages" window.16:38
abhijitrucksi did sudo apt-get install gnome-shell but it says "package gnome-shell has no insallation candidate"16:38
ActionParsnip!info gnome-shell16:38
ubottugnome-shell (source: gnome-shell): graphical shell for the GNOME desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.4.1-0ubuntu2 (precise), package size 329 kB, installed size 901 kB16:38
enotzI am trying to use LWP::Simple with perl under 12.04 and if and when I try and get an https address it fails, without error.  I have installed LWP::Simple and http://pkgs.org/ubuntu-12.04/ubuntu-universe-i386/libcrypt-ssleay-perl_0.57-2ubuntu1_i386.deb - what am I missing here16:38
ActionParsnipabhijitrucks: do you have universe repo enabled?16:39
stiltzkinStill looking for some advice on this system freeze if anyone can tell me anything about it. Screenshot here: http://i.imgur.com/Wstm3.jpg16:39
abhijitruckshow do i check?16:39
ActionParsnipabhijitrucks: use software centre16:39
robertkeizerGreetings.. Anyone else notice that the canoncial DNS servers just set ca.archive.ubuntu.com to go to the UK?16:39
euphoria_hello16:40
jellybellieterafl0ps: http://tinypic.com/r/2morp1f/616:40
ActionParsniphi euphoria_16:40
euphoria_hi16:40
abhijitrucksya16:40
abhijitrucksuniverse respiratory is enabled16:40
c0deMasterwhat are speedy alternatives to OpenVPN ?16:41
jellybellieenglish is definitely installed, I translated it with google16:41
terafl0psjellybellie, What happens if you choose "English" and press that top button?16:42
terafl0pswhich should be "apply system wide"16:42
jellybellienothing16:42
stiltzkinexperience with udevd, anyone, anyone? bueller?16:42
abhijitrucks???16:42
jellybellieterafl0ps: I got a pop up when I logged in sayin I chose a different language.  I make sure that the login language was english on the login screen16:43
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jellybelliethis is insane16:44
jellybellieIm gonna have to reinstall over this...16:44
abhijitrucksok. i added a gnome ppa16:44
jellybelliemy gawd ubuntu16:44
abhijitruckssomeone plz help16:45
abhijitruckshow to install gnome 316:45
abhijitrucksin ubuntu 12.0416:45
tensorpuddingabhijitrucks, first, remove whatever ppa you added16:45
abhijitrucksok16:46
tensorpuddingabhijitrucks, then you're done, because 12.04 comes with gnome 316:46
terafl0psjellybellie, I'm not sure what's going on then.  Have you tried logging out of gnome and logging back in after you applied the change?16:46
jellybellieubuntu just switched me to chinese, that is what happened16:46
jellybellieno idea why16:46
abhijitrucksok i removed it16:46
tensorpuddingabhijitrucks, if you don't believe me, open System Monitor and look at the System tab, and see where it'll say GNOME 3.4.116:46
jellybellieterafl0ps: gonna try logging out.16:47
compdocI think ppl would be happier if 12.03 did run gnome 3, but it doesnt. But thats OK, I getting used to Unity16:47
abhijitrucksbut i cant login to a gnome session16:48
TheShruvjellybellie: goto system>administration>language (or something like that)16:48
hypn0i would be happier if something like openbox was installed too16:48
robin0800compdoc: 12.04 does run gnome 316:48
tensorpuddingabhijitrucks, unity is built on top of gnome 3, if you want gnome-shell, just install it by name from the software center, you'll get a GNOME session available16:48
LjL!gnome3 | abhijitrucks16:48
ubottuabhijitrucks: GNOME 3 is the desktop environment on which Unity is based.  To use GNOME Shell instead of Unity, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool". GNOME 3 is not supported under Natty/11.04, and may break your system if installed from alternate sources.16:48
compdocrobin0800, not the gnome 3 that abhijitrucks means16:49
abhijitrucksi have ubuntu 12.0416:49
tensorpuddingyes, do what it says, install gnome-shell and gnome-tweak-tool16:49
LjLcompdoc: yes, what you and abhijitrucks mean is "GNOME-Shell", not "GNOME 3"16:49
abhijitrucksand i want to use gnome instead of unity16:49
LjLabhijitrucks: follow the instructions in the factoid i just gave.16:49
n1ckn4me09876543Can someone help me install driver for Soundblaster X-Fi Fatal1ty ?  I've google'd everywhere and cannot find a solution16:50
terafl0psOverall, I personally think Unity is awful on desktops and laptops.  I think something with a Unity-like interface makes much more sense on tablets and smartphones.16:50
ActionParsnipcompdoc: 12.04 uses Gnome3...16:50
robin0800abhijitrucks: you may need gnome-panel then16:50
MrGizmo757Unity is awsome  just takes getting used to16:50
ActionParsnipn1ckn4me09876543: those can be a pita, not worth the hastle16:50
abhijitrucksunity is kinda messed up in ubuntu 12.0416:51
ActionParsnipn1ckn4me09876543: can you give the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh16:51
MrGizmo757its rough around the edges but you can tweak it and make it good16:51
MrGizmo757such as making the launcher dodge windows like it did in 11.10 amound many other things16:51
MrGizmo757with a little TLC you can make unity quite good16:51
abhijitruckshow do i change launcher to reveal when i move my mouse to bottom left corner?16:52
n1ckn4me09876543ActionParsnip: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=19897beae9289bea9247c92a6b29e6e89a4fbd5716:52
MrGizmo757not sure about hot corners. i know My unity and even ubuntu tweak have some funtions like that.16:52
MrGizmo757there is a way i just don tknow it.16:52
abhijitrucks+they dont work in 12.0416:52
abhijitrucks:(16:53
MrGizmo757launcher dodgin open windows i have figured out. changin the default lens i have figured out.16:53
abhijitrucksi mean i can only change hotsopts to left edge and top left corner16:53
terafl0psI admit I haven't tried Unity since 11.04, but I had lots of problems with it on dual displays, and I really couldn't stand the enormous icons.  Those big icons would make perfect sense on a small screen where they would scale down to the size of your fingertip though.16:54
MrGizmo757i agree. out of the box as is Unity is kind of a mess.  but if you spend some time with it you can make it very good.16:54
MrGizmo757hmm not sure about lower hot corners.   its not somthing i ever had a need for. i always just use keyboard shortcuts16:54
n1ckn4me09876543win8 copied ubuntu's unity :>16:54
abhijitrucksNO16:54
n1ckn4me09876543yep, the left side bar thingie,  the square looking thing to see programs,  that's the "new" start in win816:55
newhoaQuick question: Nautilus is using media-eject-symbolic as the unmount icon in the sidebar now. Is there a way to define the color of this icon? Mine will only show black.16:55
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abhijitrucksi got used to using bottom left corner for launcher in 11.10 so its kinda frarusting in 12.0416:55
MrGizmo757no they didnt. steve balmmer ate some bad shrimp. puked it all out all over a pile of turds and then he copied that. thats windows 8    LOL!!!!16:55
solderMobterafl0ps: failed.16:55
solderMobterafl0ps: how do i get to the fonts?16:55
solderMobmaybe the fonts are off16:55
ActionParsnipn1ckn4me09876543: is the right output device selected in sound options and are all levels cranked in alsamixer16:56
solderMobits says english, but fonts are not english16:56
MrGizmo757i like windows 7 am am not baching windows here but  windows 8  i can only ask what are hey smoking16:56
shadow_wraithHi, does anyone here know much about configuring a wacom pad in ubuntu?16:56
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kelvinellawhat happen to windows 8?16:56
abhijitrucksand i cant even set expo hot corners in CCSM. the settings dissappear after a restart16:56
terafl0pssolderMob, Was your nick jellybellie before?16:56
ActionParsnipkelvinella: its offtopic here16:56
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petsoundswindows 8 is off-topic16:57
kelvinellalast month i try to install windows 8 in virtualbox it fails16:57
jellybellieterafl0ps: sorry16:57
jellybellieforgot16:57
abhijitrucksforget about windows 816:57
MrGizmo757anyways i need help with WiFi in ubuntu. i cant get the LED ont eh front of my laptop to work.  anybody know how to fix that?16:57
n1ckn4me09876543MrGizmo757: when you open programs in win8, it snaps it to the left screen,  sounds familiar? :> and a bunch of other stuff like   windows store to d/l apps like with ubuntu software centre, lol!16:58
ActionParsnipMrGizmo757: does it connect despite the LED?16:58
MrGizmo757yes wifi works fine. its just the LED that wont work.16:58
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abhijitruckswindows 8 is metro and ubuntu is not metro16:58
abhijitruckslol16:58
ActionParsnipMrGizmo757: why is the LED needed?16:58
MrGizmo757its not its just annoying me16:58
abhijitruckshaha16:58
ActionParsnipMrGizmo757: could report a bug, its massively trivial. Personally I'd be glad it didn't light16:59
Kirilsomeone can you tell me how to remove from apache to require htcaccess and stop give me a forbidden16:59
ActionParsnipKiril: try asking in the apache channel too16:59
terafl0psAh.  I don't think it's a font issue.  I really think something is wrong with your language settings somewhere, but the language support program is failing to set them correctly now.16:59
MrGizmo757yeah but its sopose to and it dosent.  to me thats annoying.  :-)16:59
totesmuhgoatsooooh we are in #ubuntu16:59
abhijitruckskiril: use sudo16:59
totesmuhgoatslol i am reading the buffer thinking i'm in ##windows16:59
totesmuhgoatswondering what all you guys are on about17:00
Kirili use root17:00
robin0800MrGizmo757: do a google search for your wifi light laptop and linux17:00
ActionParsnipMrGizmo757: instead of 'laptop' use the make and model of the system17:00
ChewyrobboKiril, why don't you delete your htaccess temporarily?17:00
jellybellie36 down?17:00
Kirili haven't17:00
terafl0psJellybellie: Yes, in the installed languages screen.17:01
MrGizmo757i alredy tried all that. thats why i came here.  i found a few fixes  for other laptops. but not for mine.  the fixes i did fine for dell and system 76 didnt work  on my ASUS17:01
Chewyrobbodo that, or find what line(s) are bad in your htaccess17:01
stiltzkinAnyone have any insight on this system freeze I'm getting? I kind of suspect bad hardware but I'm not sure. Getting lots of errors about nonexistent USB MTP devices: http://i.imgur.com/Wstm3.jpg17:01
viktor_lo/ i am having troube with my interfaces, i have configured my eth1 in the interfaces file but it will not be active by default when i start ubuntu17:02
ActionParsnipstiltzkin: what is plugged in to the usb ports?17:02
ActionParsnipviktor_l: did you add the line:   auto eth117:02
stiltzkinActionParsnip, USB keyboard, plain USB hard drive17:02
ActionParsnipstiltzkin: unmount and eject the drive, see if the messages still occur17:02
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MrGizmo757i also found a fix for this problem but it wouldnt work on my wifi card.  the solution was to install some backports. but the driver for my wifi card didnt work before 11.10 so installing backports just make it stop worging completley.17:03
stiltzkinActionParsnip, alright...I have a feeling they will17:03
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ActionParsnipstiltzkin: then you will know what is causing the issue :)17:03
jellybellieits installing uz when I install english17:03
MrGizmo757oh well.  everything works fine. i just dont have a working LED.   not a big deal but if there was a fix i figured i would apply it.17:03
jellybellieand en-gb17:03
MrGizmo757no biggue though. its only a little bitty light.17:04
ChewyrobboHey status lights have saved my butt before though.17:04
amfliris there a package for Debian that changes the wallpaper randomly from a couple of selected pictures randomly every x minutes?!17:04
jellybellieI hate china now17:04
jellybellie(:17:04
amfliris there a package that changes the wallpaper randomly from a couple of selected pictures randomly every x minutes?!17:04
viktor_lso really, the auto part is to start the interface17:04
jellybelliethat does nothing17:04
jellybellieAH!17:05
ActionParsnipamflir: isn't that already installed?17:05
Dougie187I'm having trouble with 12.04 on a thinkpad T61. Pluseaudio will only output one stream at a time17:05
theadminamflir: Try nitrogen, if you mean desktop-independent17:05
terafl0psjellybellie: Success?17:05
jellybellieno17:05
jellybelliechinese17:05
n1ckn4me09876543ActionParsnip: yea I'm in alsa mixer options,  is there anyway I could have a more pleasing graphical settings for audio?17:05
stiltzkinActionParsnip, it's not throwing errors yet...might have to wait a few minutes to be sure though, it happens at random17:05
ActionParsnipamflir: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc17:05
terafl0psDarn.17:05
KomiaPoikahi17:05
ActionParsnipn1ckn4me09876543: there's gnome-alsamixer  its exactly the same just pretty, kinda pointless really17:06
KomiaPoikatrying to install enemy territory 2.60 full install, I get: .setup2089: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory17:06
KomiaPoikawhat lib should I install?17:06
amflirActionParsnip: Release:6.0.5      Codename:squeeze17:06
ActionParsnipamflir: debian isn't supported here17:06
ActionParsnipamflir: this is ubuntu support only17:06
ActionParsnipamflir: join #debian17:06
amflirActionParsnip: the packages are the same17:07
ActionParsnipamflir: its not ubuntu17:07
jellybellieso there is nothing else that might over right my language?17:07
ActionParsnipamflir: even the 'ubuntu based' distros are not supported here17:07
ActionParsnipamflir: and packages from debian are not to be install in ubutnu they will cause issues17:07
stiltzkinActionParsnip, looks alright for now, I'll be back if the problem persists. Thanks for the suggestion :)17:08
jellybelliehow do i get to font?17:08
TheFreeMSPhey everyone17:08
jellybellieanyone know where fonts are in gnomeshell?17:08
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ActionParsnip!fonts | jellybellie17:09
ubottujellybellie: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". For the official ubuntu font, see: http://font.ubuntu.com/17:09
jellybellieActionParsnip: I know how to install ubuntu lulz17:10
jellybelliethis is a 12.04 canonical fail17:10
ActionParsnipjellybellie: its how to install fonts, not ubuntu17:10
alan83hi everyone i'm totally new to linux and ubuntu. may i ask i saw ppl on the youtube having those top menu where starts Applications etc. but mine comes with a sidebar. how can i change to tat? tks.17:11
jellybelliethe default language of my system is chinese, even chrome is trying to translate to chinese for me.  ActionParsnip looking17:11
terafl0psjelliebellie: What shows up when you run "dpkg -l | grep language-pack" ?17:11
jellybelliewhere is the gui font editor in ubuntu 12.04?17:11
ActionParsnipalan83: you can install xfce, or use this how to: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/03/gnome-classic-in-ubuntu-12-04-its-like-nothing-ever-changed/17:11
theadminalan83: sudo apt-get install gnome-fallback # After that log out, click the gear icon, choose "GNOME Fallback".17:11
jellybellieah17:12
alan83ok tks ActionParsnip and theadmin.17:12
ActionParsnip!info fontforge | jellybellie17:12
ubottujellybellie: fontforge (source: fontforge): font editor. In component main, is optional. Version 0.0.20110222-4ubuntu1 (precise), package size 1068 kB, installed size 3156 kB17:12
rwqhere is the best one today17:13
alan83oh btw, how do i learn about the commands for the terminal? anyone?17:13
rwq"daddy can i listen to jazz?"17:13
LjL!cli > alan8317:13
ubottualan83, please see my private message17:13
rwq"SURE!  what kind of jazz?"17:13
rwq"jazztin beiber"17:13
LjL!ot | rwq17:13
ubotturwq: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!17:13
jellybelliethat link is for 10.0417:13
rwqallright sorry17:13
alan83cheers.17:13
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jellybellieubottu: no fontforge in terminal17:14
ubottujellybellie: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)17:15
jellybellieubottu: that is helpful17:15
L3topjellybellie: sudo apt-get install fontforge17:15
jellybelliethe font editor in 12.04? its not in appearances17:15
LjLjellybellie: i don't think you meant "font editor" anyway. a font editor is something to let you create fonts.17:15
ActionParsnipjellybellie: is it in the Alt+F2 menu?17:16
amflirhow to check what packages depended on package FOO are installed?17:16
jellybellieI dont know17:17
jellybellieI cannot read anything17:17
jellybelliethe language thing says english, and above it, something in chinese17:17
terafl0psStill, I'm pretty sure there is no font that changes your language to Chinese.  I think any font with a full set of unicode characters would have Chinese characters.17:17
jellybellieall the menus are in chinese17:17
Dougie187So, basically if I have two applications running in 12.04 the first one to run gets to output, and the other one doesn't.17:17
frickerHello.17:18
jellybellieterafl0ps: Im just trying anything.  I spent days installing this system and now im looking at reinstalling cause I logged in.17:18
jellybelliefail canonical17:18
jellybelliehuge fail17:18
frickerHmm. Sounds like you have it worse than I do.17:19
ActionParsnipjellybellie: change the language..17:19
tensorpuddingchanging the language could be hard though, if everything is in chinese and you don't speak the language17:19
jellybellieActionParsnip: been doing that17:19
frickerI just put Ubuntu 11.04 on a new laptop and for some reason, it freezes during start up.17:19
jellybellieit doesnt seem to care17:20
terafl0psjellybellie:  Can you pastebin your /etc/default/locale ?17:20
frickerBut, if I have my wired ethernet connected, it starts up fine.17:20
jellybellieterafl0ps: LANG="zh_CN.UTF-8"17:21
jellybellieLANGUAGE="zh_CN:en"17:21
ActionParsnipjellybellie: or you could rename all the gnome config folders as a last ditch17:21
terafl0psjellybellie:  Change it to this:17:21
terafl0psLANG="en_US"17:21
terafl0psLANGUAGE="en_US:en"17:21
jellybelliehttp://pastebin.com/xDULW29W17:21
jellybellie^17:21
EtaleI'm going to get a 500GB, 8GB RAM, 64-bit laptop tomorrow. I want an ubuntu distro that would be ideal for that sort of computer, but also doesn't have too much garbage pre-installed. Ultimately I want to use compiz. What would you suggest?17:21
jellybellie(gawd Im not chinese)17:22
jellybellieterafl0ps: which? just the first one?17:22
ActionParsnipEtale: you can run any of the ubuntus you want17:22
danielsaanEtale: linux mint17:22
L3top!poll | again Etale..17:22
ubottuagain Etale..: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.17:22
tensorpuddinglinux mint isn't ubuntu17:22
ActionParsnipEtale: install default ubuntu and it will be fine17:23
DaekdroomEtale, Default Ubuntu17:23
jellybellieterafl0ps: oh, nvm,17:23
danielsaantensorpudding: yes it is17:23
terafl0psjellybellie:  Actually, my entire /etc/default/locale only contains one line.17:23
tensorpudding!mint17:23
ubottuLinux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org17:23
Tw|sTEtale: Ubuntu 12.04-LTS x6417:23
terafl0psIt is LANG="en_US.UTF-8"17:23
xanguadanielsaan: mint is not supported here, drop it17:23
terafl0psSo, I would try that.17:23
jellybellieterafl0ps: what is that line?17:23
LjLdanielsaan: no it isn't. please don't recommend people to use other distributions here when they ask about an "Ubuntu distro"17:23
L3topsame here terafl0ps17:23
jellybellieubuntu 12.04?17:23
EtaleNot even xubuntu?17:23
danielsaanxangua: dude, it's apt-get etc17:23
danielsaanthat's debian based17:23
danielsaanergo ubuntu17:23
jellybelliewhat line?! (:17:23
terafl0psLANG="en_US.UTF-8"17:23
LjLdanielsaan: i don't even know how you think what you just said makes any sense, but at any rate, just don't.17:23
EtaleOr minimal ubuntu? lubuntu?17:23
danielsaanwhy?17:24
tensorpuddingEtale, get xubuntu if xfce4 is what you want, get kubuntu is kde 4.6 is what you want, get regular ubuntu if you want unity17:24
xanguaEtale: anything you want17:24
xangua!ot | danielsaan17:24
ubottudanielsaan: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!17:24
terafl0psYou may need to log out of gnome again to get it to pick it up.17:24
flowerpotdanielbw, because Ubuntu is significantly different from Debian, even though Debian is the upstream provider for Ubuntu.  Moreover, if Mint is an offshoot of Debian, then it's even farther removed from Ubuntu than Debian is.17:24
Tw|sTwith that level of hardware, I'd go straight to Ubuntu, rather than Xubuntu.  you can always add in the metapackage for Xubntu later, but starting from the root build is always best, I've found17:24
LjLdanielsaan: because this is an Ubuntu channel, not a "recommend me the best OS to use" channel. the fellow who asked wasn't even asking *that* in the first place, they were asking about *Ubuntu*, and regardless of what you think, not everything that uses apt-get is "Ubuntu"17:24
ActionParsnipEtale: Ubuntu, yuo will have enough grunt so I wouldn't worry about resources17:25
flowerpotJust because distro A is the upstream provider for distro B does not mean that distro B is compatible with distro A.17:25
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Tw|sTKubuntu would be a great alternative, on such high end hardware17:25
L3topjellybellie: echo "LANG=\"en_US.UTF-8\"" > /etc/default/locale17:25
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Tw|sTBut, I still would start with Ubuntu, and add in metapackages as desired17:26
EtaleOkay!17:26
Tw|sTThis way, I could use any desktop I prefer, and yet still have a system that otherwise works as the default distro was intended, with no diversion in any libs, settings or functions.  I always get a more stable box that way, I've found.17:27
Tw|sTenjoy!  :)17:27
EtaleYupsies!17:27
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primenumber Before I Go to Sleep17:30
primenumber@search  Before I Go to Sleep17:30
LjLprimenumber: ?17:30
primenumberoops sorry!17:30
jellybellieNOPE17:31
jellybelliechinese, yay!17:31
primenumberI was going to ask if anyone else has a recurring system error on 12.04 after the upgrade. 2 systems - laptop and desktop both do this...17:32
primenumberhappens about 2 minutes in from boot17:32
terafl0psjelliebellie: Did you log out of gnome and log back in?17:33
jellybellierebooted terafl0ps17:33
jellybelliebrb, trying one more time17:33
* Tw|sT recently bought an Acer Iconia Tab W500 tablet, preloaded with Windows 7. I also picked up a 32GB SDXC card for it and initially installed Ubuntu 12.04 onto the SDXC card, but came into a bad need to more disc space and sacrificed the SDXC card to Windows. I now boot to Ubuntu from USB flash drives.. and for some reason, unaltered, it works better on the tablet than it did when it was installed on SDXC.17:33
jelliebellieYES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!17:34
jelliebellieNO CHINESE!17:34
xangua!caps | jelliebellie17:34
ubottujelliebellie: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.17:34
jelliebellieubottu: if you werent a bot, you would understand.17:35
ubottujelliebellie: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)17:35
terafl0psJelliebellie, what did you do?17:35
jelliebellieterafl0ps: guys, thnx17:35
sirriffsalotjelliebellie: haha, good reply!17:35
jelliebelliethx for dealing with my anger as well17:35
jelliebellieI hate chinese, but not as much anymore.17:35
Tw|sTMy other fave Ubuntu system I run is a Zotac ZboxHD ID41-plus, loaded with Ubuntu 12.04.  Low footprint, fast as lightning!17:35
jelliebellie(:=~~~ datalove to you all ~~~=:) o/17:36
terafl0psjelliebellie: What did you do that was different after that first reboot?17:36
Tw|sTbailed17:37
Tw|sTheh17:38
Tw|sTwell... at least jelliebellie got it workin'17:38
L3topTw|sT: you have had success with the nvidia-current driver? Are you using audio over hdmi?17:39
Tw|sTyup17:39
L3topDid you have to configure anything manually for audio?17:40
Tw|sTit worked the other night from my tablet to the TV17:40
Tw|sTI just selected that output17:40
Tw|sTat least if I recall correctly17:40
L3topI am referring to the id4117:40
Tw|sToh17:40
Tw|sTumm... yeah17:41
Tw|sTthough I only tested it recently with the lowerend set upstairs... a 720P plasma17:41
L3topSorry... meaning?17:41
L3topNo manual config?17:41
L3topOr no audio over hdmi?17:42
Tw|sTI don't recall it I've set it up using that mode successfully on my 1080p Samsung17:42
Tw|sTI think it depended on the set17:42
Tw|sTI'll have to test that17:42
Tw|sTI'm using a dedicated monitor with it17:42
Tw|sTbut17:42
L3topdigital audio out is digital audio out... it should either pipe a signal or not. I was just curious because I am having some grief autoconfiguring those guys.17:43
Tw|sTI also have a spare HDMI cable that I occasionally use to hook one or the other of my 2 portables to 2nd, larger displays17:43
Tw|sTwell... theres more than that, when dealing with it as an output to pulseaudio17:43
master0010im trying to change the JAVA_HOME variable to java7oracle but its always on java6 :S17:44
master0010can some one help me?17:44
L3topnot on the receiving end... anyway... thanks.17:44
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theadminmaster0010: sudo update-alternatives --set java /path/to/java7/17:45
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theadminmaster0010: Or something along the lines. Not sure if it's "java" or "jre" or even "jvm", though17:45
master0010update-alternatives: error: alternative /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-oracle/ for java not registered, not setting.17:46
Tw|sTit's sorta like dealing with it in Windows.   The TV becomes an audio output listed as connected to the digital interface, and then have to work under the same digital output specifications.  If I remember correctly, the last time i had my Zbox hooked to my digital display (Samsung), I had to use a separate optical cable for digital audio because pulse audio at the time, didn't work with it correctly.  But I've upgraded that system sinc17:46
ZaNeIuMhow do i delete grub from hard drive, formatting the drive doesnt get rid of it?17:46
ActionParsnipmaster0010: there is a ppa for oracle java 717:46
ActionParsnipZaNeIuM: when you install another OS the MBR will be overwritten17:46
master0010java -version gives me java 717:47
master0010but the variables are still java 617:47
Tw|sTThat's why I'm not sure, honestly.  Because I haven't rechecked since I reloaded from 10.04 to 12.04 on the Zbox17:47
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ZaNeIuMwell i did install other os but it kept adding to the grub menu thats why now im asking17:47
Tw|sTMy wife's using the screen right now, watching a film, or I'd just go ahead and hook it up and check, because you've gotten me curious here now...   :)17:48
viktor_lfor the auto eth1 one guy, yes that was it, tyvm17:48
ActionParsnipZaNeIuM: what is the other OS?17:48
ActionParsnipvinraec: np :)17:48
ZaNeIuMxbmc ubuntu eden17:48
ZaNeIuMit was ok then i started seeing the grub menu apon boot17:49
Tw|sTZaNeIuM:  Do you have  copy of the "gparted" live iso?17:49
ActionParsnipZaNeIuM: that will probably use grub as well, you can use a chroot to set it up. the distro isn't supported here17:49
ZaNeIuMi got gparted on a live cd17:49
ZaNeIuMi del the partios with it17:49
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Tw|sTthat'll do it.  just kill the partition table itself17:49
jademonkeyCould anyone suggest some decent drafting software for a novice? I want to sketch out a design for a patio, not really looking to get hardcore.17:49
salvatoreHello everybody. I have a problem with my Ubuntu 12.04 installation. I got a new Sony Vaio laptop with windows 7 64 bit preinstalled. I wanna keep7 it and install ubuntu also. But when i restart my pc GRUB menu won't appear and start windows17:50
Tw|sTthat'll wipe the MBR17:50
ZaNeIuMand rebooted the partioionless drive and still got a grub prompt17:50
master0010ActionParship  iǘe isntalled java 717:50
master0010but the varialbes are still java 617:50
master0010and i cant change them17:50
salvatoremay be that i am trying to install an ubuntu 32 bit version?17:51
Tw|sTZaNeIuM Are you certain tht the drive you're targetting is the one triggering grub?  Might it also gotten installed on another drive as well? (just troubleshooting steps of elimination)17:51
master0010when i type "export JAVA_HOME=.......java-7-oracle" the variable changes but when i logout and log in again the variable is back to java617:52
Tw|sTAlso, have you checked the "boot" flag in gparted?17:52
ZaNeIuMits a small itx system with one 1 drive17:52
dougstew2I have 12.04 and i want to see the cpu speed how do i do it??17:52
ZaNeIuMull check it now17:52
Tw|sTThat'll allow you to kill an MBR on a drive17:52
salvatorewhy on my new VAIO won't appear GRUB menu???17:52
salvatoreplease help!!!!17:53
Tw|sTsalvatore:  what was your grub installation target drive? /dev/sda1 ? or  /dev/sda ? or some other arrangement?17:54
salvatoremmm don't remember...17:54
salvatorebut is it possible because i installed a 32 bit version?17:55
salvatoremy windows is 64 bit17:55
Tw|sTthat wouldnt matter so much17:55
Tw|sTno17:55
wifioregonhi I need to rename LOTS of files.  "Track 1.wav" to "a 1.wav"  "Track 2.wav" to "a 2.wav" and so on. Can someone please help? Even if you just guide me in the right direction. Do I need to do some kind of loop?17:55
Tw|sTthat's perfectly ok17:55
Tw|sTgenerally, whenever you are setting up a dual boot system, you'll need to install grub to "/dev/sda", which is the MBR of the first detected drive of a modern laptop.  The actual target labels may differ depending on your hardware arrangement, but generally my example applies in most cases.17:57
Tw|sTI tend to build USB stick installations that act as a full system.  I use these as portable environments, for laptops, Workstations, and my tablet.17:58
tdnI use Ubuntu LTS and want to install the new 12.04, however, the installer does not seem to be able to boot on non pae CPUs. What to do? I need the alternate installer to set up LUKS during install.18:00
Tw|sTI also manage several Linux servers at my work (3 of which are Ubuntu based), and several Ubuntu systems on my home network, where most of those are virtualized on VMWare ESXi host servers, inhouse.18:00
ceti331__@twist, can you easily use a large portion of the usb stick as the drive18:00
Tw|sTright18:00
ActionParsnipsalvatore: how did you install ubuntu. Via wubi, or by resizing the ntfs and installing that way?18:00
ceti331__i seem to remember the usb stick installers limiting me when i did it18:00
ceti331__but that was a while ago18:01
airlynxThis is a common problem I have, when compiling a downloaded program I sometimes get an error that some dependency is not installed, when in fact it is, is there a good workaround for this type of issue?  Particular case is currently rbpro-drum2midi when running ./configure it checks for alsa >= 1.0.22 when I have 1.0.24 installed but it just stops and says "No package 'alsa' found"18:01
ActionParsnipwifioregon: ask in #bash too18:01
FfoOexcuse me guys. Good afternoon. Could any one tell me which format is best for an Arch-Linux OS install, please? Ext2 or Ext4.18:01
salvatorei downloaded the iso from ubuntu website18:01
salvatoreburned it18:01
salvatoreused it18:01
salvatorerestarting pc18:01
Tw|sTI have a pair of live installer USBs, as well as full systems, rather than persisten mode discs.  That way, I'm not as limited with it.18:02
ivan___hi.. I'm having problems with dhcp after update to 12.0418:02
RupertPupkinsalvatore, Try #archlinux18:02
ivan___I edited /etc/resol.conf to 8.8.8.8 but it still doesn't want to connect to any network18:03
RupertPupkinsorry , ignore that.  wrong person18:03
Sidewinder!who18:03
ubottuAs you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)18:03
RupertPupkinFfoO, Try #archlinux18:03
ivan___I also edited /etc/dhcp/dhcplient.conf18:03
FfoORupertPupkin: I'm on it, thank you18:03
ivan___I uncommented prepend domain-name-servers and added opendns IP addressess18:04
ivan___this fixed problem few days ago18:04
ivan___but now, I have same problem18:04
ivan___and this solution doesn't work18:04
ActionParsnipwifioregon: may help http://www.computing.net/answers/unix/replace-word/6230.html18:04
ActionParsnipivan___: can you ping your default gateway18:05
AranelAfter 12.04 upgrade now plasma-desktop doesn't start with "org.kde.kded not provided by any .service files" :/ Can you help me?18:06
ivan___anyone any idea?18:07
ActionParsnipivan___: I asked you a question.....18:07
ivan___ActionParsnip: sorry I missed it18:07
ActionParsnipAranel: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=10708618:07
ActionParsnipAranel: seems you need to delete /var/tmp/kdecache-$USER18:08
ActionParsnipAranel: have you seen that guide?18:08
salvatorewhat is archlinux?18:08
master0010i need help :S i can't change my JAVA_HOME variable. i've installed java 7 oracle and when i type java -version it shows the java 7 version but JAVA_HOME is still java 6 oracle18:08
AranelActionParsnip: did and removed that folder too, after issuing plasma-desktop on terminal it starts kbuildsycoca, then crashes again.18:08
ivan___ActionParsnip: what should I ping ?18:08
ActionParsnipivan___: your default gateway, the router's internal IP.....18:09
Tw|sTSunday May 20 2012 01:09:34 PM -0600 GMT18:09
master0010can some one help me? :(18:10
terafl0psmaster0010, do you want to use Java 7 for only one particular user or all users?18:10
master0010all18:10
ivan___ActionParsnip: no I can't18:10
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ficarraWhy does M$ have to own skype?18:11
ActionParsnipivan___: does the interface get an IP via dhcp?18:11
ikoniahow is that anything to do with ubuntu ficarra ?18:11
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ficarra2.2 Beta? Are you kidding me18:11
ActionParsnipficarra: they paid for it...18:11
ikoniaficarra: you understand you're in an ubuntu support channel yes ?18:12
terafl0psmaster0010, See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables18:12
ficarraTHey refuse to develope for linux.18:12
ActionParsnipficarra: they haven't said taht18:12
ikoniaficarra: you understand you're in an ubuntu support channel yes ?18:12
ficarraGive me time, I'm getting to the point, ranting first.18:12
terafl0psLook at the section on system-wide environment variables.18:12
ikoniaficarra: stop ranting18:12
ficarraNo need to spam me ikonia18:12
ikoniaficarra: if you need support ask for it - if not, please don't speak18:12
FfoOficarra: Beta since I was born.18:12
ficarraSo, skype closes instantly on startup18:12
ActionParsnipficarra: tried renaming ~/.Skype ?18:13
master0010terafl0ps i tried that18:13
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ficarraWell, not on startup. On login. And ActionParsnip, how will renaming it help?18:13
terafl0psWas JAVA_HOME defined in any of those places?18:13
master0010but bashrc doesn't do me anything18:13
master0010in all18:14
master0010the only time that it changes18:14
master0010is18:14
master0010when i do export18:14
_MarcusHi18:15
master0010but when i logout and log in its back to java618:15
terafl0psIs it defined in your users .profile ?18:15
vimanewhat will replace unity-2d for old computer?18:16
master0010no but profile is pointing to bashrc18:16
master0010i think :S18:16
master0010its what looks like on the file18:17
terafl0psmaster0010, It could be defined in there.18:17
ficarravimane: For an older computer, I'd suggest LXDE18:17
ficarraOr XFCE18:18
vimanehahaha ok18:18
ficarraActually, XFCE should work fine18:18
ficarravimane:  sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop18:19
vimanethank18:19
FfoOCould any one tell me which format is best for a Ubuntu OS install, please? Ext2 or Ext4.18:19
terafl0psmaster00101: grep JAVA_HOME .*18:19
ZaNeIuMTw|sT: in gparted flags is grayed out18:19
ikoniaFfoO: ext4 is the current standard18:19
master0010terafl0ps, nothing..18:19
terafl0psmaster0010: So it's not set in your user's directory.18:20
master0010:S718:21
conny__Could someone help me with a problem in Regnum Online? The outfits of the chars are "flickering" and I don't know how to turn it off18:21
master0010but when i do echo $JAVA_HOME18:21
master0010it shows it18:21
FfoOThank you, ikonia18:22
master0010terafl0ps, how do i do it?18:22
terafl0psmaster0010: sudo find /etc/* -exec grep -l JAVA_HOME {} \;18:22
vimaneficarra: i'm fine with other DE, but many people i know want to use unity.18:22
nano_http://askubuntu.com/questions/139669/cannot-install-windows18:23
robstarkSo whats the difference between kubuntu and ubuntu?18:23
ActionParsnipficarra: if you rename it, skype will majke default settings and may help. bad settnigs can make apps crash18:23
ActionParsnipvimane: could use unity2d session18:24
ActionParsniprobstark: kde desktop instead of gnome, default apps are different18:24
ActionParsniprobstark: rest is the same18:24
nano_http://askubuntu.com/questions/139669/cannot-install-windows18:24
master0010terafl0ps, what im i suposed to find with this? it shows me some lines..18:24
ActionParsnipmaster0010: there is a ppa for java7, makes life easier18:24
terafl0psmaster0010:  That should list any file in /etc containing the text "JAVA_HOME"18:25
vimanebut unity-2d will be droped in 12.10, isn't it?18:25
robstarkSo KDE desktop means?  BRAND new user here, just switched from windows18:25
master0010terafl0ps, i used this link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1977358&highlight=qiii+install+java18:25
robstarkRunning 12.04 ubuntu, but kubuntu recommended by a friend18:25
ActionParsnipvimane: not that i've noticed. I'll check tonight (I have 12.10 installed)18:25
ActionParsniprobstark: try it, see what you think18:26
ActionParsniprobstark: could run a live CD / USB18:26
vimaneActionParsnip: thank you18:26
ActionParsnipvimane: i'm at work now but am curious now18:26
terafl0psmaster0010:  If it's more than a couple lines that came back, you'll have to pastebin them.18:26
aemidGIALLO18:26
robstarkThe core is the same then, just different desktop... so like... it would be the same as running the same dos, but a different gui?18:26
robstarkOr not really?18:27
ActionParsniprobstark: exactly18:27
robstarkCool, ok ty\18:27
mhahehello running ubuntu 12.04 on my macbook pro 6.2 and i have to reconnect to wifi every 10 seconds or so... did not have this problem before upgrade from 11.1018:27
robstarkWhile I'm here, any recommendation on how to learn terminal?18:27
mhaheany ideas on what the issue is?18:27
terafl0psThat tutorial is fine.  It sounds like Java installed correctly, but you just need to change your JAVA_HOME to point to the new install.18:27
ActionParsniprobstark: use it instead of the gui18:27
robstarkBut like, a page of some kind?  Or a wiki?  Looking for a reference point here.18:28
AranelActionParsnip: did and removed that folder too, after issuing plasma-desktop on terminal it starts kbuildsycoca, then crashes again.18:28
mhahealso i checked before installing 12.04 on the ubuntu support for macbookpro and my laptop had no issues with wifi18:28
ActionParsniprobstark: the guys in #bash may have some nice guides18:28
Araneloops. repost.18:28
robstarkcool18:28
robstarkTy18:28
ActionParsnipAranel: remove the folder, then reboot. may help18:28
robstarkHeading out then, over there, thanks a ton18:29
master0010terafl0ps, http://pastebin.com/938DCASJ18:29
ActionParsnipnp :)18:29
lukyshttp://www.petitiononline.com/system76/petition.html18:30
lukysReplace Proprietary BIOS with Coreboot in System76 Machines18:30
terafl0psmaster0010: Great.  Open up /etc/alternatives/java_vm, /etc/bash.bashrc, and /etc/environment and set JAVA_HOME to point to your new JAVA_HOME.18:31
terafl0psmaster0010:  It should take effect once you log out and log back in.18:31
sukeshHi18:31
RupertPupkinhi sukesh do you have a question?18:32
ActionParsnipterafl0ps: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html18:33
ActionParsnipterafl0ps: easier18:33
sukeshI have just installed 12.04 on my desktop and I'm not getting the password screen after it goes into screensaver / powersave mode. I can't get back to the GUI mode at all. My hard disk is showing activity though. Cn someone pls help?18:33
master0010terafl0ps, how do i edit java_vm?18:34
master0010terafl0ps, the other files were already with my new JAVA_HOME18:34
terafl0psmaster0010:On second thought, you probably don't need to edit /etc/alternatives/java_vm.18:35
master0010terafl0ps, but the other files were already edited18:35
master0010terafl0ps, i didn't made any changes18:35
terafl0psActionParsnip, I think he already followed basically those same instructions, but his JAVA_HOME still points to Java 6.18:35
terafl0psmaster0010: Are you running gnome right now?  This may seem odd, but I've had to log out of gnome at times and log back in to get system environment variable changes to stick sometimes.18:37
remlabmhaving an issue with nvidia drivers for my GF 8500 on Ubuntu 12. I have installed the latest drivers but my monitor says 3840x 1080 instead having 2x 1920x1080. What would cause that?18:38
master0010i've done that several times18:38
Dr_Willisremlabm:  if using twinview the system sees one very wide monitor.18:38
master0010every time i make a change i logout and log in18:38
remlabmDr_Willis: what should my Xconfig be set on?18:38
remlabmDr_Willis: by default it had my 2nd monitor disbaled18:39
terafl0psmaster0010, It has to be defined in one of those files for system-wide environment variables or one of the scripts executed at login by your user.  You may want to double check those places to make sure that the old JAVA_HOME definition is isn't appearing anywhere in those files *after* the new JAVA_HOME definition.  If It's defined twice, the second one would win.18:42
sokakyay, found an one liner to kill dupes in sources.list, just wanted to share18:43
remlabmSo i guess the issue is, ubuntu is not picking up my 2nd monitor. Can i manually add that do xorg.conf with out breaking everything?18:44
master0010terafl0ps, thats what im thinking... but i don't find nothing about java 6 in any config file18:45
jagginessremlabm, does the X log say it's picking up e-did information from the second monitor ? (/var/log/Xorg.0.log)18:45
newmarhi, I have a toshiba u505 laptop and after de ubuntu upgrade the battery dont keep more than one hour working, anyone can help me?18:46
jagginessremlabm, is this monitor really a "tv" ?18:46
terafl0psmaster0010: You can use that recursive grep command to find the old Java 6 path wherever it may be hiding.18:46
remlabmjagginess it does. i dont want to paste in here.. No same monitors, 2x 24inch acers18:47
Dr_Willisremlabm:  run nvidia-settings as root. enable twinview. set monitors how you like.save to sorg.conf. restart X18:47
sukeshRupertpupkin I have just installed 12.04 on my desktop and I'm not getting the password screen after it goes into screensaver / powersave mode. I can't get back to the GUI mode at all. My hard disk is showing activity though. Cn someone pls help?18:47
jagginess!paste18:47
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.18:47
remlabmDr_Willis: i cant use twinview, I rotate one monitor :)18:47
jagginessremlabm, ^18:47
Dr_Willisrotate?18:48
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terafl0psfind /etc/* -exec grep "any string I want to find anywhere in any config file" -exec grep -il {} \;18:48
newmaranyone can help me with the problem of my battery, or have the toshiba u505 laptop and know how to do it work better with ubuntu?18:48
remlabmhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/997862/18:49
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remlabmyes, i rotate my left monitor so it is 1024x192018:49
Dr_Willisnewmar:  id say check the forums and askubuntu.com for your exact laptop. there may be some battery tweaks for it. The powersaveing stuff for some laptops. dont work very well.18:49
innociv_What do I do about a package depending on libmysqlclient15off when I have libmysqlclient16?  libmysqlclient15off  is not longer in the repo.18:49
master0010terafl0ps, thanks for the help. I think i found it :) i was looking on the bash.bashrc file..... but it was on the ~/.bashrc18:50
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jagginessremlabm, that's not the whole log, try using xclip or pastebinit, eg --> cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | xclip   -- then you can use the middle-mouse button to paste in the textbox at the pastebin site (provide the new url please)18:50
terafl0psAh, that would do it.18:50
remlabmoh you want the whole thing? sorry i thought you just wanted the nvidia snippet18:50
jagginessremlabm, xclip can be installed - apt-get install xclip18:50
tomreyninnociv_: don't install packages which are not made for your ubuntu release.18:51
remlabmjagginess : http://paste.ubuntu.com/997866/18:51
Dr_Willishttp://zuttobenkyou.wordpress.com/2009/10/04/linux-nvidia-xinerama-guide-rotating-just-one-monitor-in-a-dual-head-setup/18:51
newmarDr_Willis, i tried there but there isnt my problem18:52
Dr_Willisi have a bigger ieeus ehre my X server gets amazingly sluggush after running for some time. Like right now. I can type faster then it can display... how annoying. I thought the last updatew  fixed it.18:53
ikonialast RealEyes18:53
ikoniaoops18:54
RealEyes<.<18:54
jagginessremlabm, so you have two monitors of the same brand?  "Acer G235H"18:54
remlabmjagginess, yup same exact model18:54
jagginessremlabm, what happens when you type "xrandr" alone in a terminal box?18:55
jagginessremlabm, does it mention both monitors?18:55
remlabmyup says 2 things are connected18:55
jagginessremlabm, did you try the Display option from system settings?18:56
remlabmit only shows one monitor as "laptop"18:56
SomelauwIs there a more convenient way to edit a zip file then the usual extracting and eventually bundling it again?18:58
jagginessremlabm, that's weird.. so what about the xorg.conf file.. did you make one?18:58
graingert_Somelauw: sometimes18:58
SomelauwAlso I have the same question for tar.gz, rar etc.18:58
BlackWebI'm trying to configure dns on my local machine which I entered the hostname along with there ip's in /etc/resolv.conf.  how would i restart dns or if its not recognizing the hostnames still would dns just need to be restarted18:58
graingert_Somelauw: I believe file roller does that, but hides it18:58
remlabmjagginess, this is the default one, i have not edited. i turned on twinview just to see if the 2nd monitor was working, but then turned it back off18:58
graingert_Somelauw: ISO lets you delete files by flipping a bit in the file descripto18:59
jagginessSomelauw, dunno how stable it is but i think there's a fuse filesystem for zip (meaning you can get a mountpoint for it)18:59
graingert_r18:59
remlabmjagginess, do you want me to post my xorg.conf?18:59
jagginessremlabm, yes.. actually i noticed twinview is still on as shown in the x log18:59
Somelauwjagginess: That sounds cool.18:59
jagginessremlabm, you can pastebin the xorg.conf file18:59
infameHi... My "WIndow decorator" keeps on dying, at random times.... It's a bit annoying having to type: compiz-decorator --replace all the time, is there a workaround??18:59
xanguaBlackWeb: so you want to set a dns¿18:59
remlabmjaginess, http://paste.ubuntu.com/997875/19:00
jagginessSomelauw, you can always extract 1 file, modify it, then re-inject it back into the archive is another19:00
dontknowcinnamon is awesome19:00
graingert_ infame: fusion icon19:00
BlackWebya right now have 3 computers on local network and want to be able to refer to them by hostname instead of Ip19:00
itawshow to program c++ in ubuntu ?19:00
ikoniaitaws: same as any other os19:00
Orpheonitaws: Get CodeBlocks19:00
ikoniaitaws: c++ is the same on any platform19:00
Orpheonyou already have gcc19:00
Orpheonyou're all set19:00
graingert_infame: does it happen after you run unity --reset19:01
graingert_this will reset all your us settings19:01
graingert_ui*19:01
jagginessremlabm, do you want xinerama?19:01
BlackWebwhich i placed hostnames and ips in /etc/resolv.conf and still it can resolve the hostnames do i need to restart dns or do something else besides just modifying /etc/resolv.conf19:01
infameEr... I'll have to try it out19:01
infameThanks, for any possible solutions.19:01
remlabmjagginess, from what ive been told, i want to stay away from xserver and xinerama19:01
jagginessremlabm, uh..19:01
remlabmthat was in this channel, i was told dont use xinerama19:02
jagginessremlabm, you have xinerama off.. that's what I'm believing you're after, no?19:02
jagginessremlabm, who said that?19:02
itawsbut i programmed c++ in window but in ubuntu i donot know how to start  and where to start ?19:02
remlabmi forget, wasnt to long ago either19:02
jagginessremlabm, maybe if you enable twinview that xinerama may have be turned off.. but you have to consult the docs..19:02
Dr_Willistwinview supercedes xinerama19:02
jagginessremlabm, i said rename xorg.conf to xorg.conf_bak..19:02
b3lsatarplease someone help me to fix wirless on ubuntu19:03
Dr_Willistwinview is like nvidias own xinerama+extras19:03
jagginessremlabm, stop lightdm (tty1), make a new xorg file...19:03
Piciuhej19:03
PiciuHALLO19:03
jagginessremlabm, X -configure, then copy /root/xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf19:03
jagginessremlabm, then start lightdm.. see if dual screen works after..19:03
remlabmnow that i think of it.. it might have been Dr_Willis i was talking too.19:03
Piciujest tam keos19:03
Dr_Willisremlabm:  from what ive googled - twinview can rotate both monitors..  but not one.19:04
Orpheonitaws: open terminal19:04
DJones!pl | Piciu19:04
ubottuPiciu: Na tym kanale używamy tylko języka angielskiego. Możesz uzyskać pomoc w języku polskim na #ubuntu-pl.19:04
Orpheontype in "sudo apt-get install codeblocks"19:04
OrpheonI think it's called19:04
SnowmanX11Has somebody experienced since the last (grub) update in 12.04 that win7 dual boot does not work? Chainloader fails.19:04
Piciuyes ok19:04
Orpheonit's in my opinion the best C++ editor19:04
remlabmso what is the difference between using xinerama and using built in display19:04
Dr_Willisremlabm:  xinerams can rotate one. but then you lose some of the extra twinview features19:04
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jagginessremlabm, before making a new xorg.conf perhaps you can try the nvidia-settings-<> command, try to enable the second monitor with that19:05
Dr_Willisthe build in  display tool - only works with the gl noevau drivers i belive - not the nvidisda ones19:05
wilee-nileeSnowmanX11, this a fresh install, have you run sudo update-grub in ubuntu?19:05
remlabmOh, so if i disable the nouveau drivers, that borks the built in display19:05
remlabmdidnt realize they fit and in hand19:05
Guest73403ciao19:05
SnowmanX11It was an update and yes, I did. I have even reinstalled it. It worked ones and when I tried 2nd time it failed again.19:05
remlabmtrying that now jagginess19:05
Guest73403!list19:06
ubottuGuest73403: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».19:06
pijushhello19:06
jagginessremlabm, type nvidia<tab tab>, see what tools you can use19:06
jagginess(should be only 1 or two)19:06
itaws<Orpheon>after installing codeblocks , where to write and how to run it ?19:06
jagginessremlabm, it should be a gui tool too..19:07
Dr_Willisim not even sure how well the nouveau drivers handle dual monitors19:07
remlabmbug reposrt, detector, settings, unintsall, debugdump, installer, smi, xconfig19:07
ubuntu__tük varmı19:07
b3lsatarplease someone help me to fix wirless on ubuntu19:07
ubuntu__TÜRK VARMı??19:07
bennypr0fanehello, could anyone take a look at this forum thread?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11952839#post11952839 I can't get my wlan chip to work with Ubuntu 12.04. There's confusion with the drivers...19:07
bennypr0faneubuntu_ english only, sorry!19:08
jagginessremlabm, you runnign the nvidia-settings gui tool?19:08
ubuntu__what is ubuntu 12.04 live cd pasword19:08
remlabmyup19:08
ikoniathere isn't one19:08
jagginessremlabm, can u list both monitors?19:08
bennypr0faneubuntu_ it shouldn't have an19:08
remlabmyup19:08
Wiz_KeeDhey guys, can anyone tell me if there's a way i can install the drivers under ubuntu 10.04 ? http://www.linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#Supported_devices19:08
bennypr0fane*a password19:08
Wiz_KeeDit says yes (2.6.33+) and i think i have an older version19:08
jagginessremlabm, so you should be able to activate the second monitor probably19:08
remlabmbut the 2nd one has everything as "unkonwn"19:09
ubuntu__what is ubuntu 12.04 live cd password19:09
sirriffsalotAnyone know what has happened to amsn on ubuntu 12.04?19:09
bennypr0faneubuntu_ , there is no password19:09
Dr_WillisOnly time ive seen the live cd ask for a password is when it was badly burnt, or some how messed up19:09
Dr_Willisthe default user is 'ubuntu' i belive.. but for some odd reason when i installed 12.04 it was like 'test' on the live cd as the username.. not sure what was up with that19:10
jagginessremlabm, you called it "Unknown" in your xorg.conf file..19:10
meoblast001there's something really confusing about unity for me19:10
remlabmjagginess, so what do you recommend i do from this point?19:10
meoblast001when i have thunderbird running, the amount of new emails it shows in unity is the amount of new items in my spam box19:10
bennypr0faneDr_Willis I'm on live usb, I ahve Ubuntu as usr name19:10
jagginessremlabm, i recommend you pastebin a sample X -configure makes..19:10
meoblast001is there a way to change this?19:10
jagginessremlabm, type stop lightdm, then do X -configure, start lightdm, then pastebin /root/xorg.conf.new the sample19:11
Wiz_KeeDdoes anyone know how i can upgrade my kernel with ubuntu 10.04 over 2.6.33?19:12
OerHeks sirriffsalot the "amsn" package was deleted from the ubuntu repository, don't know why.19:12
ubuntu__What is the password for the ubuntu live cd19:12
OerHeksubuntu__, there is no password, user = ubuntu pass = empty19:12
Dr_Willisbennypr0fane:  as i said it was weird - the cd i got form the torrents.. not sure what the deal was. It may have been a daily build19:12
ubuntu__live cd password ?19:13
ubuntu__su ?19:13
OerHeksubuntu__, read ^^^19:13
remlabm2jagginess, what did you need from the X -configure?19:13
Wiz_KeeDnobody?19:14
jagginessremlabm2, that command makes the sample xorg file in /root19:14
jagginessremlabm2, run that command as the superuser19:15
remlabm2ok did that19:15
jagginessremlabm2, superuser's home is "/root"19:15
jagginessremlabm2, so pastebin the sample file19:15
BlueChaoshellow guys19:15
ubuntu__ubuntu live cd password? please?19:16
remlabm2jagginess, didnt work, ways , Configuration Failed19:16
OerHeksubuntu__, i answered your question a couple of minutes ago.19:16
remlabm2Number of screens does not match the number jo detected devices19:16
oCeanubuntu__: there is NO password for the ubuntu user. If you need root privileges, then use sudo command19:16
oCean!sudo | ubuntu__19:17
ubottuubuntu__: sudo is a command to run command-line programs with superuser privileges ("root") (also see !cli). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (GNOME, Xfce), or !kdesudo (KDE). If you're unable to execute commands with sudo see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo19:17
BlueChaosocean19:17
BlueChaosare u  /19:17
oCeanBlueChaos: what?19:17
BlueChaosI need help to figure out how can i add some modules intro webmin pannel19:17
BlueChaosknow ?19:17
ubuntu__Türk yok mu?19:18
georgelappiesubuntu_, there is no password, nothing, blank, nada19:18
sirriffsalotOerHeks: aawh...19:18
oCean!tr | ubuntu__19:18
sirriffsalotOerHeks: where do you check the ubuntu "repository" chief database as it were?19:18
ubottuubuntu__: Turk ubuntu kullanıcıları, Türkçe yardım ya da geyik için /join #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.19:18
oCeanBlueChaos: this channel can not help you with webmin, it is not supported with ubuntu19:19
BlueChaoslol19:19
BlueChaosI have installed on my unbuntu 12.0419:19
BlueChaoscheck this out19:19
oCeanBlueChaos: yes, but it is not supported19:19
oCeanBlueChaos: please stop19:19
OerHekssirriffsalot, it is removed, as you can see in softwarecentre/synaptic.19:19
BlueChaosso19:19
xanguaubuntu_ for live cd¿ tried user: ubuntu password: leave it blank19:19
sirriffsalotOerHeks: yeah, but sometimes one has to add a repository for it to be available19:20
oCeansirriffsalot: you can also use ubottu for searching for package information19:20
BlueChaostell me u one software to us and afcourse to bee supported by unbuntu for manage' this sh1t over here19:20
ikoniaBlueChaos: that language is unacceptable19:20
ubuntu__thanks19:20
oCeanBlueChaos: mind your language in this channel please19:20
OerHekssirriffsalot, yes i found a 'amsn-daily'  ppa, if that is what you want >>https://launchpad.net/~amsn-daily/+archive/ppa19:20
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sirriffsalotOerHeks: So I can add that and things'll be dandy?19:21
Guest35585 hola hi hello :)19:21
jagginessremlabm2, that's fine.. it still made a full xorg sample file19:21
jagginessremlabm2, did you pastebin it19:21
sirriffsalotOerHeks: where is the chief repository list as it were?19:21
xanguaOerHeks: sirriffsalot and all build failed19:21
BlueChaosok sorry tell me one software to use for manage from webs my pc19:21
OerHekssirriffsalot, it is a personal testing archiv, no succes guaranteed, and ubuntu does not support ppa troubles.19:21
sirriffsalotxangua: hmm?19:21
oCeansirriffsalot: please note that PPA's are 3rd party repositories19:21
jagginessBlueChaos, you want an easy to setup remote linux?19:22
sirriffsalotoCean: 3rd party meaning?19:22
BlueChaosyes19:22
jagginessBlueChaos, like remote desktop?19:22
BlueChaosno ...re19:22
OerHeks3rd party = not from ubuntu or partners19:22
BlueChaoslike this19:22
BlueChaosI give u in private adress19:22
Orbiteyteamviewer works well for me19:22
oCeansirriffsalot: not under our "control", so unsupported. Maintainers can do whatever they want with their software and their repository19:22
xanguaOerHeks: did you notice the ppe you recomended has All packages failed to build¿19:23
sirriffsalotoCean: so a good idea to check up on the reviews before install?:P19:23
xanguappa*19:23
remlabm2jagginess, i cant find it to pastebin it... there is nothing in /root that says xorg19:23
jagginessBlueChaos, it's easy..download this -- http://www.nomachine.com/preview/select-package-virtual-desktop-workstation.php?os=linux  , then use firefox from another station --> https://<ip>:4080  .. or you can use the Nomachine "Player" from mac/linux/windows and get it a bit faster than firefox19:23
OerHeksxangua, no, didn't see that, thanks for mentioning it.19:23
oCeansirriffsalot: yes, or contact the maintainers of the package. PPA pages (in launchpad) usually have some statistics about recent upload, succesful builds etc19:23
jagginessremlabm2, did you type "find /root"  ?19:24
sirriffsalotoCean: cheers mate!19:24
OerHeksso, sirriffsalot, ppa is not build right, all you can do is build the source yourself.19:24
BlueChaoslet me try I annonce u if is what i'am searching for..19:24
remlabm2nothing therefor xorg.confg19:24
remlabm2nothing therefor xorg.conf*19:24
sirriffsalotOerHeks: hmm ok19:24
jagginessBlueChaos, also.. have ssh installed-- apt-get install ssh (ssh server needs to be installed of course)19:24
carlos_eduardodoes someone know any website that allows me to send annonymous email?19:24
jagginessremlabm2, did you stop lightdm first?19:24
remlabm2yessir19:25
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GayLordUK:)19:25
jagginessremlabm2, did you run as user root? (not sudo)19:25
BlueChaosjagginess I have already installed on my unbuntu ssh19:25
remlabm2that i didnt do... now its htere ;)19:25
remlabm2got a huge error when turning lightdm back on. Could not apply the stored configuration for monitors, and it lists all kinds of resolutions19:26
ralucuHi all19:27
jagginessremlabm2, still waiting..19:27
remlabm2http://paste.ubuntu.com/997920/19:28
ralucuIs compiz support in gnome 3 now?19:28
xanguaralucu: unity uses compiz19:28
jagginessremlabm2, back up /etc/X11/xorg.conf to /etc/X11/xorg.conf_bak0019:29
ralucuXangua : how about gnome 3?19:29
remlabm2ko19:29
xanguaralucu: unity is a shell for gnome319:29
jagginessremlabm2, then cp /root/<sample> to /etc/X11/xorg.conf .. now edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change "nouveau" to "nvidia", stop lightdm, start lightdm.. see what happens..19:29
ralucuOk thanks19:30
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guntbertcarlos_eduardo: that has nothing to do with ubuntu support - and as an answer: I don't think that such a site exists19:30
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realpainMagyarul kerdezhetek?19:32
ralucuOk next question i19:32
ralucuCan ubuntu support android?19:32
ralucuIn kernel 3.4 ?19:33
guntbert!hu | realpain19:33
ubotturealpain: Magyar nyelvű segítséget az #ubuntu-hu csatornán talál19:33
DJones!hu | realpain19:34
remlabm2jagginess, started lightdm, get the resolutio error, only 1 monitor19:34
ox1deI have one minor qualm with ubuntu OS.... that is that there should be better music visualizers available.19:35
ox1dedo you think this could be upgraded?19:35
terafl0psralucu, You can think of Android as a completely different Linux distribution from Ubuntu.19:35
jagginessremlabm2, do you have "nvidia" for Card0 and Card1 ?19:35
RidDribHelo19:36
RidDribPuerto Rico19:37
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remlabm2jagginess, i did, there has to be something else going on here, its showing 2 gfx cards and 4 monitors in this config19:37
Guest83919jagginess19:37
terafl0psralucu: Google built Android, so asking if Ubuntu can support Android doesn't really make sense because the two are essentially two different Linux distributions with different purposes in mind.19:37
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RidDribHow can create server??19:38
mneptokRidDrib: serving what?19:39
ultrixx_RidDrib: you want to set up a webserver or mailserver or what?19:40
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Guest45211e ae19:41
LorphosHello.. is there a mirror for kernel.ubuntu.com - it is extremely slow19:42
g0thhi19:43
detratehas anyone had a problem where flash in chromium shows through onto other tabs?19:43
detrateI can't seem to get it to go away without restarting19:43
detrateI've tried killing the flash extension19:43
detrateclosing all my tabs19:43
detraterestarting my WM19:43
g0thwhen I try to install wine or skype, ubuntu tries to install a whole bunch of packages ending in :i386, but I have amd64, how do I install either skype or wine?19:43
Lorphoskernel.ubuntu.com takes several minutes to respond to a single HTTP request19:43
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g0ththe list of the mentioned packages is huge btw19:43
manigma77_Is there an easy way to get wifi going on ubuntu 12.04? I have the acer niplijy 802.11b/g/n card, but ubuntu doesn't recognize it. I tried to hook up my ethernet, but I couldn't get that to work either. Sorry, new to ubuntu.19:45
manigma77_*niplify19:45
e_t_g0th: Skype is proprietary and they only offer a 32bit version. That's why you need all the i386 libraries. With 12.04 though, I think they're using multi-arch, so some or all of those may be virtual packages, I'm not sure.19:45
bennypr0fanehello, could anyone take a look at this forum thread?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11952839#post11952839 I can't get my wlan chip to work with Ubuntu 12.04. There's confusion with the drivers...19:46
Lorphoswho takes care of kernel.ubuntu.com? It needs a little loving.. seems to be almost completely down19:47
bennypr0fanemanigma77_ hwo are you online right now?19:47
samirafine19:47
samiratanx19:47
samiraand u?19:47
manigma77_windows 7, I have a wubi install19:48
manigma77_just looking to do some building for android19:48
g0the_t_: what does that mean? multirach?19:48
e_t_Lorphos: I noticed major slowness from archive.ubuntu.com a couple of days ago. I switched to another mirror.19:48
remlabm2is there a down side to using the nouveau drivers? i feel the nvidia ones are just causing me headaches19:48
e_t_g0th: It means binaries/libraries that can be used for either 32 or 64bit. http://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch19:49
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g0thhow can I tell if it is multiarch or not?19:49
bennypr0fanemanigma77_ there is this magnificent script for diagnosing your WiIi, I recently used it to look at my own WiFI problem: http://sourceforge.net/projects/wirelessscript/19:50
g0ththere is skype and skype:i38619:50
g0thand similar for other packages19:50
NoobistHey, I'm new to ubuntu, so I have a problem19:50
Lorphose_t_ is there a mirror for kernel.ubuntu.com?19:50
Ca11umHey guys.19:50
manigma77_thank you bennypr0fane, i'll check it out19:50
NoobistUsing wine, if I wanted to add launch parameters to a program, how do I do that?19:51
g0the_t_: skype requires some packages that end in ":i386"19:51
NoobistLike, -window19:51
bennypr0fanemanigma77_ do you need instructions for running the script?19:51
g0the_t_: so I should just install all those (100's of) packages just for skype?19:51
Ca11umI saw this screenshot a few days ago (can't find it now), but it showed a 12.04 login screen; it had a bunch of random usernames, "Guest Session", and "Network Account"....19:51
Ca11umDoes Ubuntu support network accounts, like an Active Directory?19:51
Lorphosyes for example LDAP19:52
e_t_g0th: How badly do you want Skype? If you must have Skype, does it really matter what the dependencies are? If you can do without Skype and don't want the extra packages, don't install it.19:52
manigma77_bennypr0fane, yes please, I am looking on the main site now, but I haven't learned the basic terminal codes yet.19:52
bennypr0fanemanigma77_ here's everything about it: http://wiki.bodhilinux.com/doku.php?id=wireless_script19:52
Ca11umSo I can setup a Ubuntu Server with LDAP, and it hosts all the accounts?19:52
manigma77_bennypr0fane thanx again19:52
terafl0psCa11um:  You can also use winbind to talk to Active Directory.19:53
e_t_Lorphos: I don't know.19:53
Ca11umI want a controlled interface with restrictions (like Group Policy), and the ability to lively sign in to an account hosted on a server.19:53
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Ca11umSo documents and such are asyncronous on all machines19:53
Ca11umasynchronous *19:54
jagginessremlabm2, this is the first attempt to get it to work.. you can scratch the previous attempts because your ServerLayout section previously was wrong.. you only had 1 monitor mentioned in it19:54
bennypr0faneonce, you've run it, post the results in the forum or pastebin them and ask someone in here to take a look at them. The script prints a very neat .txt file with results19:54
bennypr0fane*@manigma77_19:54
manigma77_bennypr0fane after some research I believe I need to install the broadcom sta wireless drivers, but I can't figure out how to do it without internet19:54
remlabm2jagginess, what do you recommend next then?19:55
bennypr0fanemanigma77_ do you know the name of your wlan chip?19:55
manigma77_no19:56
terafl0psCa11um, as far as authentication goes you have a couple choices.  You can use winbind and PAM and have your linux machines authenticate against AD, or you can maintain a NIS server and have the linux machines authenticate against that.19:56
manigma77_just acer niplify19:56
celthunderCa11um: documents are always asynchronous unless you sync them....19:56
bennypr0fanethat's the pc, or the chip?19:56
g0the_t_: I just don't want my system to be messed up again by all kinds of dependencies conflicts/etc....19:56
terafl0psNIS and NFS would let you setup centrally managed user accounts and home directories.19:56
manigma77_thats the wifi chip as far as I know, the computer is an acer aspire19:57
Ca11umSorry celthunder asynchronous is the wrong word19:57
Ca11umsynchronised19:57
bennypr0faneso are you in Wubi right now? and if yes, does it have internet?19:57
Ca11umAnd what could I use for restrictions (such as enforced wallpaper, desktop icons, restricted access to settings, etc)19:57
celthunderCa11um: unison or rsync with ssh19:58
manigma77_no, i'm in win 719:58
bennypr0fanebut what about your Wubi install?19:58
manigma77_it has no internet, ethernet or wireless19:58
celthunderCa11um: hmm never tried to restrikt that but making the configs read only ?19:58
e_t_g0th: As long as you use the package manager, dependency conflicts are very rarely an issue. That's what package managers are for. I've installed Skype of x64 with no problems, several times.19:58
manigma77_bennypr0fane, can i pm you?19:59
OerHeks!offline | manigma77_19:59
ubottumanigma77_: If you need to download Ubuntu packages using another machine or OS, check the desired packages in Synaptic and select File > Generate package download script. Alternatively, try http://ubottu.com/ljl/apt/ - See also !APTonCD19:59
bennypr0fanesure19:59
celthundere_t_: package managers are for many things, dependency issues were not actually covered by early managers19:59
Ca11umI guess it's not common for Linux to be used in an untrustworthy environment then, eh?19:59
jagginessremlabm2, what xorg.conf config are you using? did you try both Card0 and Card1 with "nvidia" ?19:59
g0the_t_: hmm, for me I always get dependency conflicts with ubuntu19:59
celthunderCa11um: i didnt say it couldnt be done just said ive never had to do it.  my stuffs locked down but i never tried to restrict that in particular20:00
g0the_t_: I tried it now (to install all) and hope for the best20:00
Ca11umOkay, thanks.20:00
Lorphoswow, it takes more than 5 minutes for a request to kernel.ubuntu.com to go through20:00
terafl0psIn a lot of cases you can restrict access to settings by having your NIS users in a group that is not a member of some of the system groups that exist to manage specific settings.20:01
Ca11umSo what were the things to look into; NIS, NFS, winbind?20:01
Lorphosthe actual transfer once it starts is fast20:01
terafl0psYes.  NIS or Winbind though.  You probably don't want both.20:02
tommyfunCa11um: If you're that worried about locking down the systems, take a look at the LTSP20:02
Ca11umThanks20:02
Ca11umAlso, what exactly is SELinux?20:02
bluesnowHi, I'm wondering if I can update a 11.04 LiveUSB to a 12.04 LiveUSB without affecting the computer that I'm running the USB on20:02
Ca11umAll I know is it's a "security" program that the NSA introduced20:03
remlabm2jagginess, it is only showing one card and yes its nvidia20:03
jagginessremlabm2, i think you should stick with 1 of the drivers and work on it.. if you can't get nvidia to work, lemme know, and then we can try nouveau.. i haven't been on more than 1 minute about this because i never got any feedback if you edited both Card0 and Card1 to nvidia20:03
tommyfunSELinux is just a way to lock down a system20:04
angel282Does Ubuntu have command for restoring the sources.list file? or some source.list generator?20:04
kovuhi guys im having a problem with pinguy 11.04 - Ive tried installing via live usb and CD and both times it hangs at the first install screen (the one that has 2 tickboxes asking if you want to update and if you want to install 3rd party software). can anyone offer advice? would it be worth installing a previous version and then updating versions inside the old version?20:04
remlabm2jagginesss, im responding, and im not stepping off you rpath, im just curoius why nouveau shouldnt be used?20:04
tommyfunI think AppArmor is in vogue now20:05
yeats!selinux20:05
ubottuSELinux is available on Ubuntu, but not officially supported. Ubuntu uses another security framework by default, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AppArmor20:05
whiskers75!squid320:06
whiskers75!squid20:06
ubottusquid is a caching proxy for the Web.  See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SquidGuard  See: http://www.squid-cache.org20:06
alan83hey hi may i know how can i use netbeans with j2me installed?20:06
whiskers75!bitcoin20:06
freedomrunhello.. does somebody know how to get rid of menu in nautilus window as there is already global menu of it20:06
javierf_Hi. After upgrading to 12.04, the scroll function of my touchpad doesn't work properly. Its sensibility is much smaller than it was and it only works on the very edge. Can't find an answer in google. Anyone has an idea what can i do?20:07
whiskers75!help20:07
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience20:07
whiskers75!paitence20:07
remlabm2!patience20:07
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/20:07
whiskers75!patience20:07
terafl0psangel28:  The easiest way to manage repositories in sources.list is probably Synaptics.20:09
kovuhello friends, I was seeing if anyone could help me , I've tried installing pinguy 11.04 on my PC from both a Live Boot (made with linux live) and a burnt cd - both times it does not let me past the first installation page (the page with 2 tickboxes asking if youd like to download updates and install 3rd party drivers for mp3 etc.)20:10
kovu<kovu> ive tried installing it directly from the first boot screen & by going into the live mode first and then trying.,20:10
ikoniakovu: we don't support pinguy here20:10
ikoniakovu: sorry about that, it's only ubuntu here20:10
kovuokay no problem,20:10
ikoniathanks20:10
kovualthough your best advice would have been to "try installing ubuntu" ;)20:11
kovubut thats what im gonna do anyway,.20:11
freedomrunis there special unity channel?20:11
freedomrunwake me up if someone answer :)20:13
robstarkKDE vs unity, thoughts?20:13
OerHeksfreedomrun, unity is supported here.20:13
Gosset_Inofensiugnome classic of course20:13
angel282Does Ubuntu have command for restoring the sources.list file? or some source.list generator?20:13
ikoniaangel282: no20:13
ikoniaangel282: there is no restore command20:13
freedomrunDerHeks thank you :)20:13
L3topangel282: http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/20:13
ikoniarobstark: not really a valid discussion, it's personal taste20:14
ikoniarobstark: try them, see what you like and then use it20:14
smithwHi, I bought a laptop with an nvidia card which isn't supported by nvidia official drivers yet (GT 650M). It does have the dreaded Optimus, so I know I'll have to use either Bumblebee or Ironhide. Should I: a) install BB/IH right now; b) wait for the official driver to support it; c) wait for BB/IH specifically support it?20:15
OerHekssmithw, the wiki says bumblebee https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee there is also the #Bumblebee irc channel here on freenode, those guys are up2date20:16
smithwOerHeks, thank you very much!20:17
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yashwanthi any onen how to switch on the ringing chat ringing sound from .20:22
yashwantif any one called me then it is not ringing.20:22
alan83hey hi may i know how can i use netbeans with j2me installed?20:23
cosmichi @ all20:24
sirriffsalotHow do I update my BIOS in Ubuntu...?20:25
sirriffsalotfrom ubuntu* rather20:25
terafl0pssirriffsalot: You may not be able to.  I would stick to the BIOS flash utilities your computer manufacturer provides.20:26
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guntbertsirriffsalot: you cannot, unless the manufacturer provides an utility20:27
cosmicI have  a new graphic card  Nvidia GT 520, since i have build in the card  and have conected the PC via HDMI Cable i have massiv problems . 1. My  Desktop doesnt fit on the TV anymore, second sound problems with game emulators. Is anyone so kind to give me hint how to get rid of my probs !?20:27
sirriffsalotLol... how lame20:27
L3topbioses are all different sirriffsalot... they typically have a utility from your manufacturer, you may not be able to...20:27
sirriffsalotShould be a software for that in ubuntu...20:27
sirriffsalotLaame20:27
L3topcosmic: overscanning is a pain to deal with... are you using the native nouveau driver or the proprietary nvidia drivers?20:28
sirriffsalotterafl0ps: flash utilities...? How would I go about doing that?20:28
cosmichi L3top , i am using the nativ NVIDIA20:28
L3topsirriffsalot: bios manipulation is no joke... you are best sticking to the utils20:28
sirriffsalotL3top: yeah, better leave well enough alone20:28
terafl0psGo to your computer manufacturer's website and look under the drivers for your machine.20:28
L3topcosmic: what version of ubuntu are you on?20:28
sirriffsalot12.04 lol:)20:28
terafl0psThere should be a section for BIOS updates.20:29
melodiehi20:29
sirriffsalotL3top: let's make it more simple then; I'm on a acer aspire x3200... Can't find how do increase the cpu speed anywhere in the bios=(20:29
terafl0psYou have to be absolutely certain (and I can't emphasize this enough) that you are downloading the correct BIOS.20:29
yashwantmy empathy is not ringig while any friend is called me , please help me how to swithc on the ringigng20:29
melodieis there someone here who is used to the launchpad wiki ? (and would be willing to help with a actualization ?)20:29
L3topsirriffsalot: have you looked at the manual from your manufacturer?20:29
sirriffsalotL3top: no.. no idea where it is haha):20:30
cosmicL3top,  i think it is natty , 11.0420:30
L3topwww.acer.com20:30
sirriffsalotL3top: haha, alright!20:30
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melodieit is about creating a live cd from scratch I have identified something to be changed but I am not used to this wiki and don't want to make a mistake20:30
remlabmjagginess: are you still with me?20:30
L3topcosmic: dpkg-query nvidia* | grep ^ii20:31
chaotixhi, i need a hand with this:  i just deleted a virtual machine that i had in virtualbox, and clicked to delete all files, but i am not sure that everything that could be was deleted, and i need to free up space..  i created the virtual machine an hour ago and had more free space on my machine than right now after having deleted it..  i am running ubuntu 10.04, can somoene please give me a hand?  thanks in advance  :)20:31
cosmicit is the latest wich is available20:31
cosmic@ L3top20:31
cosmicits the nativ one from the nvidia homepage20:32
terafl0pssirriffsalot: It's very likely that your CPUs multipliers and bus frequency are locked, and you won't be able to change them even with a BIOS update.20:32
sirriffsalotL3top: I can't find my computer model in the website... haha:)20:33
smerzDoes anyone's ubuntu one work well? I only got trouble with it, thinking of trying dropbox.20:33
sirriffsalotL3top: Nvm, found it20:33
L3topcosmic: that would not be native... that was why I was asking. nouveau would be native. So in the nvidia settings utility I believe there is a way to resize the desktop to deal with overscanning.20:33
cosmicL3top, please be so kind to explain me , how the "original" Nvidia drive can not be native ?20:34
yashwanthi no one use empthy for chat please sole my proble while calling why ring is not working ?20:34
terafl0pssirriffsalot: I'd also say that as a general rule I won't even attempt a BIOS update unless I am doing it to fix a bug.  If you do it wrong, your computer is bricked.20:35
L3topNative means born there vs transported there. You had to download a closed source driver from a third party source, that is not native. it is as far as you can get from it.20:35
sirriffsalotterafl0ps: I suppose you're right, but the only reason I want to do this is because I can't get my cpu rate any higher than 1.20Ghz20:35
L3topThe original driver was xserver-xorg-video-nouveau20:35
orflonhello, I'd like to go back to gnome 3.2 (the classical gnome menu, instead of the new in 3.4).20:36
sirriffsalotterafl0ps: cpufreq doesn't work in setting it higher, cpufreq-info -m tells me it's back at 1.20Ghz after starting my computer the next day20:36
terafl0pssirriffsalot: What speed do you think it should be capable of?20:36
adrian_2E0SDRI just removed LXDE and it and Openbox are still in the desktop selection, how can i remove them?20:36
sirriffsalotterafl0ps: 2.40Ghz...20:37
orflonis that only a configuration in 3.4 or should I really go back to 3.2? And how dangerous is that?20:37
sirriffsalotterafl0ps: it says so..20:37
terafl0psDoes the BIOS show the clock speed as 2.4 GHz?20:37
L3top!downgrade | orflon20:37
ubottuorflon: Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported and may break your system.20:37
cosmicL3top, Thank you very much , do you think the nouvo driver will work better ?20:38
L3topI do not cosmic. The problem is the TV20:38
orflonL3top, so am I forced to use that kind of menu?20:38
L3topThere is, frankly, 0 reason for manufacturers to still use overscanning. It is a byproduct of a defunct methodology.20:38
L3top!nounity | orflon20:39
ubottuorflon: Ubuntu 11.10 uses GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic20:39
cosmicDid you ran in the same kind of issue L3top  ? i am using a samsung20:39
adrian_2E0SDRI just removed LXDE and it and Openbox are still in the desktop selection, how can i remove them?20:39
guntbert!repeat | adrian_2E0SDR20:40
ubottuadrian_2E0SDR: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/20:40
orflonL3top, I'm using 12.04. Does the same apply to those?20:40
L3topI run into it daily. We build our own x window and have a utility to compensate for it... but desktop is going to require the nvidia tool to do it. We explicitly break that tool because it messes with our method, so I never see it and cannot walk you through it cosmic20:40
adrian_2E0SDRUbottu, Sorry m8ty20:40
L3topI believe so orflon.20:41
orflonthanks20:41
cosmicL3top, Thank you very muc for your support !20:42
cosmicL3top, Thank you very much for your support !20:42
L3topany time cosmic.20:42
sixpackhey everyone hope your day is going good.. I have a question regarding Chromium stable builds for Xubuntu 12.04.. I am using http://ppa.launchpad.net/chromium-daily/stable/ubuntu is this the best ppa? Thanks!20:42
L3topcosmic: you mentioned audio/games what was the issue there?20:42
terafl0pssirriffsalot: If the BIOS already shows the clock speed as 2.4 GHz, then I don't think a BIOS update will help anyway. It's also possible that your CPU is frequency scaling down to 1.2 GHz to save power if you aren't taxing it much.20:42
L3top!ppa | sixpack20:42
ubottusixpack: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge20:42
sirriffsalotterafl0ps: it doesn't. it says that it can get to 2.40 but it is at 1.2020:43
sirriffsalotterafl0ps: when I run the game and set the graphics to hardcore high the cpu ghz is still at 1.20..20:43
cosmicsince i use the hdmi connection , i have trouble to control my "VOLUME" via Mythtv and i have trouble using emulators like Zsnes, pcsxr , pSX , mupen64, mupen64plus , dolphin,  .... sound always "hacks" is interupted20:44
cosmic@ L3top20:44
terafl0pssirriffsalot: Interesting.  Do the release notes on any newer BIOS updates mention the ability to change your CPU settings?20:44
xomphello, would anyone know how I can go about capturing packets on my network in order to find out who is attacking my server and how? I think I'm getting ICMP flooded and have tried tcpdump but I don't know if this is a good method or not20:44
L3topcosmic check out our project www.linuxmce.org20:45
L3topIt is up your alley.20:45
guntbertterafl0ps: it might be he has the wrong "governor" set for his cpu frequency20:46
guntbertxomp: tcpdump is good for that20:46
L3topcosmic: hdmi volume is digital, you will have no sound control from the box, it is only on the output device (like your tv).20:46
L3topcosmic: it is on or off... that is all.20:46
xompguntbert, I'm using tcpdump -w /capture.log is this sufficient?20:47
cosmicL3top, so it is not a prob of alsa ? and the use of pulseaudio will not help right ?20:47
L3topCorrect, you can only control volume at the destination device (amplifier or TV)20:47
cosmicL3top, it is even not possible to turn off / on20:47
L3topyou have NO audio over hdmi? That is different.20:48
xompguntbert, when dumping to a log file I'm opening the log in wireshark and for whatever reason my server is listed as the source for some of the ICMP flooding which is HIGHLY improbable so I don't want to end up dropping packets from my own box lol20:48
L3topcosmic: pm?20:48
guntbertxomp: I'd use tcpdump -v , but write it to some place else (*not the root*)  - and *don't let that run for a long time*!! (it might fill your file system)20:49
xompyeah I don't write it to root. When running verbosely it just fills my console with tons of data that scrolls so fast I can't tell what's going on.20:49
guntbertxomp: sorry, I'm on my way out - Good luck :-)20:50
xompsince whoever is attacking our server is doing it with a botnet that has thousands of addresses20:50
xompah thanks guntbert20:50
sirriffsalotterafl0ps: no, but all I want to do is increase the cpu rate...20:51
g0thhi20:51
sirriffsalotterafl0ps: how would I do this?20:51
terafl0pssirriffsalot: guntbert raises a good point about CPU governor settings.  This may be helpful.  http://www.pantz.org/software/cpufreq/usingcpufreqonlinux.html20:51
g0ththe colors of flash movies are all wrong20:51
g0thred is blue etc20:51
sirriffsalotterafl0ps: yea, used that... gonna check it out anyway:D20:51
sirriffsalotterafl0ps: this seems to in-depth and configurative to risk on a 12.04 system... I don't want to screw things up20:54
sirriffsalotWtf, this command sudo cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/*/cpufreq/cpuinfo_cur_freq gave me these two outputs: "1200000" and "2400000" :S:S:S20:55
sirriffsalotDoes that mean I have two cpu's? Lol20:55
Loshkixomp: does any of this help? http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/karmic/man7/icmp.7.html20:56
remlabmif someone has a minute: http://askubuntu.com/questions/139983/ubuntu-12-04-and-nvidia-whoas20:57
terafl0pssirriffsalot:  Try "cpufreq-selector -g ondemand"20:57
sixpack@g0th try to use an older version of flash it worked for me21:00
xmll#faryshta21:01
ultrixx_sirriffsalot: it seems your two cpu cores are in differen power saving states, so they differ in frequency21:03
ultrixx_sirriffsalot: does that make sense to you?21:04
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xmll#faryshta21:06
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Dougie187Are there any pulseaudio "experts" in here? I'm having trouble with multiple output applications. I can only get one to output at a time.21:07
carlosxholas21:09
melodiebye21:09
j7I'm getting this error when I try to run Processing: Exception in thread "AWT-EventQueue-0" java.lang.UnsupportedClassVersionError: com/sun/jdi/VirtualMachine : Unsupported major.minor version 51.021:10
j7can anyone help?21:10
ultrixxwhen you try to run what?21:10
j7ultrixx: processing (processing.org)21:11
sancasi cant update my system :(21:14
fuhrealHowdy everyone!21:14
sirriffsalotultrixx: well sure...21:14
sirriffsalotultrixx: but still doesn't help me solve my problem haha:)21:14
terafl0pssirriffsalot:  "sudo cpufreq-set -g ondemand"21:15
j7I'm getting this error when I try to run Processing: Exception in thread "AWT-EventQueue-0" java.lang.UnsupportedClassVersionError: com/sun/jdi/VirtualMachine : Unsupported major.minor version 51.021:15
j7can anyone help?21:15
|MUSE|hi, I am trying to specify whether a file is executabled or not on an NTFS partition. I believe I am mounting it wrong in fstab, or is it not possible at all?21:15
sirriffsalotcpufreq-info -m tells me both are running at 1.2021:16
terafl0pssirriffsalot: ondemand should make both scale to demand up to their max frequency.21:17
j7I'm getting this error when I try to run Processing: Exception in thread "AWT-EventQueue-0" java.lang.UnsupportedClassVersionError: com/sun/jdi/VirtualMachine : Unsupported major.minor version 51.0 .   Can anyone help?21:17
sirriffsalotterafl0ps: is there a way to make them both go for "performance"?21:17
sirriffsalot2.40Ghz in other words21:18
ultrixxj7: it runs fine on my computer. what ubuntu version are you using?21:18
terafl0pssudo cpufreq-set -g performance21:18
j7ultrixx, precise21:18
j7ultrixx, 12.0421:18
terafl0psbut then they will stay at 2.4 all the time21:18
sirriffsalotterafl0ps: guessed so, just had to check:P21:18
sirriffsalotterafl0ps: hmm, well I guess ondemand is ok for a start21:19
terafl0psYou can always flip between ondemand and performance.  I think their is a config file somewhere that lets this setting survive a reboot.21:19
ultrixxj7: and you have downloaded the latest version from processing.org?21:20
sancaswatch my apt-get update/upgrade errors http://pastebin.com/Mqjwhq9g21:21
ultrixxj7: which jre are you using? i am using 6. have you got version 7 installed?21:23
j7ultrixx, how do I check?21:23
Omen_20hi everyone :) finally got my wireless working in Ubuntu. Hadnt been using it since 11.04. Missed it21:23
ultrixxin terminal type java -version21:24
j7 version 6, I'm using version 6, ultrixx21:24
terafl0pssirriffsalot: I think ondemand is a sensible default setting for basically any system unless you actually run into problems with frequency scaling, overheating, or power consumption on a laptop.21:25
LinuX2halfI have a little application called "preload" installed but I cannot seem to access the interface.21:26
LinuX2halfI'm not sure if it's integrated in the command line.21:27
terafl0psI had one Dell laptop with a 2.4 GHz core 2 duo that literally could not be kept at 100% CPU utilization without overheating and shutting down because Dell didn't give the machine big enough heatsinks or fast enough fans.21:27
ultrixxj7: does this error occur when starting processing or when starting an app that was written with it21:28
j7 ultrixx: when starting processing21:29
j7ultrixx: I think I installed the sun java jdk and not the open jdk21:31
praeludiumIs there a way to install Ubuntu on Natty? I seems to have GLib issues.21:32
terafl0psj7, The error sounds like it could be caused by trying to run a class with the wrong version of Java.  I would double check what version of Java your version of processing requires.21:33
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killtracehi guys,does ubuntu downloads something in background,beside updates?21:35
raidhtci have a wired (lan) connection and a wireless(wan) connection . the 1st one is for a local network, the second one is for internet. when both are enabled ubuntu by defaults tries to find internet through lan, how can i make it prefer wireless connection for internet traffic?21:37
raidhtcback, did i miss an answer?21:40
vicapowis gparted pretty much the best live cd for increasing a hdd partition size?21:41
raidhtci have a wired (lan) connection and a wireless(wan) connection . the 1st one is for a local network, the second one is for internet. when both are enabled ubuntu by defaults tries to find internet through lan, how can i make it prefer wireless connection for internet traffic?21:41
blackmatrix_nyhey all...any alternatives to using gnome-keyring on ubuntu 10.04 ?21:42
BoreeasFor some reason, the "at"-key (alt_gr+q) stopped working for me. Pressing it does nothing. Does anyone know how to fix that?21:43
blackmatrix_nyhttps://gist.github.com/947237  <---- Huge security vulnerability in ubuntu21:45
terafl0psraidhtc, you should be able to set your default gateway to the IP address of your wireless router and have it work.21:45
Gneablackmatrix_ny: dude, that's from 2008. 4 years ago..21:47
raidhtcterafl0ps my wireless card is set to dhcp and my wired card has manual ip on a network without a gateway.21:47
raidhtcwhen i disable eth0 internet works21:48
raidhtcwhen i enable eth0  :) i dont have internet21:48
blackmatrix_nyGnea, yup...and it has still not been addressed, and it really makes ubuntu a laughing stock when security is the important thing that they are flaunting21:48
terafl0psraidhtc, What subnets do your wireless and wired networks use?21:49
blackmatrix_nyGnea, not to mention the attitude of the developers that if you are already logged in then everything is up for grabs which is a microsoft way of thinking about security21:49
oconnoreblackmatrix_ny: the _old_ microsoft way of security21:49
MattFromJaxAnyone get triple tapping working on a synaptics pad?  I'm attempting to pass a true triple click, not an emulated button.  I.e. to select an entire line of text.21:50
raidhtci believe they are on 24 both, but one has ips from 192.168.0.0  range and the other from 192.168.10.0 range21:50
anegaHi any idea why Ubuntu 12 does not detect internal 3G modem?21:50
blackmatrix_nyoconnore, correct...even microsoft doesnt do this blatant exposure of your passwords these days...whats up with ubuntu21:50
samdblackmatrix_ny: sorry to get into the talk, i just logged in , whats the problem you guys are talking about?21:51
blackmatrix_nysamd, the gnome-keyring spilling all the beans about your passwords in plain text format21:51
raidhtcterafl0ps,  i believe they are on 24 both, but one has ips from 192.168.0.0  range and the other from 192.168.10.0 range21:51
samdblackmatrix_ny: ohh i see, thanks21:52
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terafl0psraidhtc, can you enable your wired NIC, run "netstat -rn"  and then pastebin the output once you disable the wired connection to get back on the Internet?21:52
blackmatrix_nythe issue had been raised about 3-4 years ago and i still see a recent thread in ubuntu forums and this simple stuff has still not been addressed21:52
blackmatrix_nyhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1965128&highlight=gnome-keyring21:52
DarwinSurvivorMattFromJax: what have you tried so far (and what were the results)?21:52
raidhtcterafl0ps,  brb21:52
DarwinSurvivorMattFromJax: also, did it work in a previous verions (if so, which version(s))21:52
blackmatrix_nyhow are we to recommend ubuntu to others when ubuntu can't even obviously encrypt and save your passwords...this really suck21:53
MattFromJaxDarwinSurvivor: Adjusting FastClick, changing double tap times, disabling third button21:53
terafl0psraidhtc: can you also pastebin what you get from ifconfig too ?21:53
MattFromJaxDarwinSurvivor: Unknown.  First time with Linux and touchpad.  It is a MacBook 5,1 if that helps.21:54
raidhtctest21:54
raidhtcdid i DC at all?21:54
DarwinSurvivorMattFromJax: by "tripple click" do you mean tapping 3 times, or tapping with 3 fingers?21:54
terafl0psraidhtc: You appeared to be in the channel the whole time.21:54
blackmatrix_nyI mean how easy it would be for a malicious website or malware to run a command on keyring and get all your passwords21:54
raidhtcterafl0ps, strange, sec i will pastebin21:55
oconnoreblackmatrix_ny: that's probably the big issue -- ubuntu developers aren't facing a large malware issue yet, and are therefore lulled into a false sense of security.21:55
blackmatrix_nyand the complete reluctance of ubuntu developers regarding this issue which was raised a long time ago and never been addressed is so discomforting21:55
euvaldoHello, something is wrong with my flash plugin. I'm using xubuntu 11.10. It worked fine from the CD, but it isn't anymore after I installed the system. I reinstalled the plugin lots of times and nothing happened. I've been searching google but all tutorials I've found seem pretty old. Youtube videos, for instance, simply don't show up. Are there any clues on what is happening, what should I do in order to make it work normally?21:56
MattFromJaxDarwinSurvivor: tapping 3 times.21:56
blackmatrix_nyoconnore, I'm lulled too by migrating to Ubuntu for better security to find out that I am more exposed now21:56
raidhtcterafl0ps, http://pastebin.com/YPc5HbTr here you go21:57
DarwinSurvivor!flash | euvaldo did you try these instructions?21:58
ubottueuvaldo did you try these instructions?: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also  !Restricted and !Gnash21:58
blackmatrix_nyoconnore, I was actually working on a proof of concept to embed the python script into a javascript and gather all the passwords...but my javascript skills are weak but it's very possible for somebody with better JS skills than me21:58
DarwinSurvivorMattFromJax: oh, I've never tried that, sorry. I thought you meant 3-finger tap (which I have)21:58
praeludiumIs there a way to install Ubuntu on Natty? I seems to have GLib issues.21:59
oconnoreblackmatrix_ny: you mean to run the script from a website? I would think firefox wouldn't allow that.21:59
terafl0psraidhtc, What's happening is your wired router becomes the default gateway when you connect.21:59
MattFromJaxDarwinSurvivor: thanks anyways.  How would you change the address in a browser bar? The content of the textbox isn't selected on focus.22:00
DarwinSurvivorMattFromJax: you mean Ctrl+L?22:00
raidhtcthats what i was thinking. how can i override this terafl0ps ? make default gateway my wlan0 connection22:00
blackmatrix_nyoconnore, first i would write the script content to a file and then execute the script...22:00
DarwinSurvivorblackmatrix_ny: I don't think that would work running from javascript because javascript is sandboxed. otherwise you could just as easily write a javascript that would download the users' e-mails from thunderbird!22:01
DarwinSurvivorMattFromJax: have you looked at the synaptics documentation? There have been quite a few additions in the last 6 months or so, it may very well support tripple-click with a simply xorg adjustment22:02
terafl0psraidhtc, you may be able to configure DHCP on your router not to provide a default gateway.22:02
DarwinSurvivorblackmatrix_ny: if a website can write an executable script and then run it with the same permissions as your user account, you have MUCH bigger problems...22:03
terafl0psraidhtc, You could also use static addresses and not assign a gateway in the wired config.22:03
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raidhtcmy wired router has disabled dhcp. i use static adressing. i tried putting 0.0.0.0 as gateway adress but it didnt work. if i assign blank , i cannot save it through GUI in ubuntu22:03
blackmatrix_nyDarwinSurvivor, im not much of a hacker but if there are python apis to extract the password list and using those apis doesnt require root id then any refined hacker can exploit that easily22:03
raidhtcterafl0ps, my wired router has disabled dhcp. i use static adressing. i tried putting 0.0.0.0 as gateway adress but it didnt work. if i assign blank , i cannot save it through GUI in ubuntu22:04
blackmatrix_nyDarwinSurvivor, i have read somewhere that you can write files using JS, can you change mod of files using JS too ?22:04
terafl0psraidhtc, you should be able to set this up in /etc/network/interfaces22:05
yeatsraidhtc: you still need a gateway address...22:05
raidhtcterafl0ps,  thanks i will give it a try22:05
terafl0pshttps://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/network-configuration.html22:05
DarwinSurvivorblackmatrix_ny: root has *nothing* to do with it. those passwords are saved in a file that is 100% accessible to the running user (though encrypted). if someone is able to even read the encrypted content, let alone access it while decrypted, they could just as easily hijack your entire web browser and watch all your passwords as you log into websites22:06
yeatsraidhtc: no need for /etc/network/interfaces, just enter the IP of the router as the gateway22:06
terafl0psSee the section on static configuration.22:06
MattFromJaxDarwinSurvivor: thanks.22:06
terafl0ps yeats, I think he wants the LAN to be private and static.22:06
fenrigHi i'm looking for a fast system wide proxy switcher (as I use Google chrome) (btw I'm using lucid)22:07
uskerinehi, very basic question (new into ubuntu distro)... how can I get a console?22:07
DarwinSurvivorblackmatrix_ny: the newest javascript allows for websites to save *data* on your computer that is then accessible to the same site later (basically a really big cookie). Javascript can NOT access ANY files that were not created by that website, nor can it execute anything outside of the javascript sandbox22:07
DarwinSurvivorMattFromJax: no problem, the synaptics documentation (and man page) are FULL of different options and features that you can enable for some very cool setups on touchpads22:07
terafl0psyeats, His WLAN connection is the only valid route to the Internet.22:08
fenrigis there a good system wide proxy switcher for ubuntu22:09
DarwinSurvivorfenrig: open network manager and you should be able to change the proxy. if you find an application that does not respect it, please file a bug report22:09
raidhtcsadf22:10
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uskerinewhere is terminal in ubuntu 12 (fresh install in unity)22:10
fenrigDarwinSurvivor: well I can't use profiles in there :o22:10
DarwinSurvivoruskerine: Ctrl+Alt+T22:10
blackmatrix_nyDarwinSurvivor, so the file is encrypted which is a good thing to know. but the gnome-keyring still has apis that can be used through any python scripts running under the user id in plain text format. Why not encrypt those as well and whichever requesting app will know how to decrypt and use the pwd ?22:10
blackmatrix_nyDarwinSurvivor, btw, what is the filename of the file where the pwds are stored in encrypted format ?22:11
uskerineoh great, thanks darwinsurvivor22:11
uskerine:)22:11
DarwinSurvivorblackmatrix_ny: because A) the whole point of gnome-keyring is so each application doesn't have to use its own encryption and B) once someone can execute a script with your credentials, it's game over anyways!22:12
DarwinSurvivorblackmatrix_ny: I'd have to look that up22:12
DarwinSurvivorblackmatrix_ny: hmm, I don't have it installed currently, but I believe it is somewheres in .config/keyring or something like that (still looking)22:13
BoreeasDarwinSurvivor: Well, not entirely true. If you don't reuse your passwords, someone being able to access the keyring would still hurt22:13
alamhi guys22:13
euvaldo!Restricted22:14
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats22:14
alamhows everyone in here?22:14
alexandr0ssince i upgraded to 12.04 ubuntu. i have this problem>>>> sudo apt-get update >>>>http://pastebin.gr/184322:14
alexandr0sopen the link22:14
alamhellow room :D22:14
alamanyone there..... :/22:14
alexandr0splease msg me private22:15
alamwonder if my msgs are going thru22:15
L3topDo you have a support question alam22:15
Boreeasalam: Yes, we can see your messages22:15
alamyes need help22:15
L3top!details | alam22:15
ubottualam: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."22:15
DarwinSurvivorBoreeas: it may hurt a *little* more, but once a malicious person/script has gotten your credentials, they can do just about anything including capture your entire firefox session22:16
terafl0ps raidhtc: Is that working?22:16
blackmatrix_nyDarwinSurvivor, yea, you're right...it's really game over on that scenario :-) my lack of JS understanding has really put me under the impression that it can write scripts and execute them22:16
L3topalexandr0s: Running update a couple of times should fix itself.22:16
DarwinSurvivorblackmatrix_ny: you can probably write a python interpreter that would allow you to run python scripts, but the python script wouldn't be able to access anything outside of what firefox lets it22:17
alexandr0si have tried this many many times22:17
alamI am running Ubuntu 11.10 and my sound is not working.... it does if i plug my headphones in22:17
alexandr0snothing fixed22:17
DarwinSurvivoralexandr0s: please stay in the channel so that we can make sure the advice you are receiving is both accurate and safe.22:17
Lunar_Landerhello, why does my software-center download 72 MB of GIMP while the description says "28 MB to download, 52 MB after installation"?22:17
alami am a bit lost in all the text on the screen :/ seems very busy in here22:17
blackmatrix_nyDarwinSurvivor, outside of firefox directory right ? btw what keyring do you use then if you don't use gnome-keyring ?22:17
DarwinSurvivorLunar_Lander: please provide a copy of the output that quoted those 3 numbers, they mean nothing out of context22:18
Lunar_Landerwell I went to software center and wanted to download GIMP22:19
DarwinSurvivorblackmatrix_ny: I don't use one, I have my firefox passwords save in my firefox password manager and everything else in keepassx22:19
terafl0psalam:  I had the exact opposite problem.  My headphones didn't work, but my speakers did.  Plugging in headphones cut off my speakers, but no sound came through the headphones...22:19
L3topalexandr0s: cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.bu; cat /etc/apt/sources.list.bu | sort -u > /etc/apt/sources.list22:19
alamhummm any ideas on how to fix :/ been trying to read up but new to linux was using windwos till very recent22:19
Lunar_Landerand on the description page it said that 28 MB had to be downloaded and that the program would occupy about 52 MB after installation, so I clicked "install" and when the download began it said "X of 72 MB have been downloaded"22:19
L3topalexandr0s: then apt-get update should not have the problem anymore.22:20
alamgot rid of that as i wanted some freedom22:20
DarwinSurvivorblackmatrix_ny: not the firefox directory, the firefox *sandbox*. the sandbox prevents the JS from even accessing other tabs that are open in firefox22:20
alamUploaded my Alsa script report :/22:20
alamhttp://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=5f...e6f1931ce0826f22:20
terafl0psalam: I don't know what the root cause is, but I worked around it by running alsamixer from a command line and then muting my master volume, changing my master volume, and then muting and unmuting my headphone volume.22:20
blackmatrix_nyDarwinSurvivor, gotcha...hey men, you just restored my confidence in ubuntu :-)22:21
L3topYes alam, it is busy in here, this is why it is best to limit your communication to a single line, with details of your problem.22:21
DarwinSurvivorLunar_Lander: there could be a number of reasons. inaccurate calcuation of dependencies, cache updating, repo updating, etc.22:22
Lunar_Landerah thanks!22:22
blackmatrix_nyDarwinSurvivor, does chrome also operate like that or it allows script execution outside the sandbox22:22
DarwinSurvivorblackmatrix_ny: glad to hear it. if you have any other questions about firefox's sandbox, check out their irc channel (or forums). they are *very* open about their security practices22:22
terafl0psalam:  I have a feeling the same procedure might work for you if you do the same thing only with the speaker channel in alsamixer instead of the headphone channel.22:23
DarwinSurvivorblackmatrix_ny: I don't know of ANY browsers that allow javascript to execute outside the sandbox. even IE6 had protections there (not perfect mind you)22:23
alamwhere and how do i access alsamixer22:24
alam?22:24
terafl0psalam: Open a terminal by pressing "ctrl+alt+T"22:25
terafl0psthen type in "alsamixer"22:25
grpaceGreetings all!  I have just tried using the Ubuntu One Cloud Storage.  I uploaded a small text file there as a test, and sent email to share it with a buddy.  However, it seems they could not access the shared folder unless they created their own separate account there.  While they got 5Gb when signing up, free...  They may never use it.  Is this really the way Ubuntu One works ??22:25
alamcheers22:25
Lady-Tuxhi i want to ask something....why is it that when i clicked my folder instead for the folder that will open it seems my virtualbox is the one that will pop-up what seems to be the problem?22:25
oconnoreblackmatrix_ny: I fail to see where you confidence was restored. The entire keyring should not be available to any process running with user permissions.22:25
L3topalam this may also be helpful http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=184352322:25
alamokay now i really feel a bit daft here... but how do i change settings?22:25
blackmatrix_nyDarwinSurvivor, will most definetly check out the firefox channel...I have some questions about JS capabilities on the browser22:26
terafl0psalam: The right and left arrows move you from channel to channel.22:26
L3topalam arrow keys left and right, up and down, M is mute/unmute... f6 will change adapters if you have more than one.22:26
terafl0psUp and down increase or decrease volume.22:26
alexandr0s<L3top> i send the results o private22:26
alamokay will try :D get back in a bit to let you know22:27
alamThanks22:27
L3topsorry use sudo for both operations alexandr0s22:27
mkquistpossible to install gimp 2.8 on 11.04?22:27
blackmatrix_nyoconnore, Im relieved that I wouldn't get a malicious attacker from a browser to be able to run those gnome-keyring apis22:27
uskerinehi, how could I create an account type where I can define what what icons are shown (hence which applications can the user actually use)?22:27
L3topsudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.bu; sudo cat /etc/apt/sources.list.bu | sort -u > /etc/apt/sources.list22:27
L3topalexandr0s: ^22:27
DarwinSurvivoruskerine: what is the use-case?22:28
oconnoreblackmatrix_ny: yeah *that* would terrible, but still, someone that walks up to my laptop with a program on a usb key should not be able to dump all my passwords. A decent alternative would be to run the keyring/config as root, and only submit keyring entries to approved applications.22:28
bastidrazorgt5tr8u5~4e6z5 ~~c5d4T22:28
Lady-Tuxanyone?22:29
uskerineDarwinSurvivor, I want to setup a generic account for users accesing a server through thin-clients in office environment, hence i would like to avoid them installing anything or changing configuration, configuring email or messanging other than a pre-configured one by the admin22:29
DarwinSurvivoroconnore: so you have no problem with them being able to download all your e-mails, copy your tax returns and steal your browser history with that USB drive?22:29
uskerineDarwinSurvivor: I basically want them to use libreoffice & firefox and a VoIP client22:29
alexandr0s<L3top>alexandr0s@alexandr0s:~$ sudo cat /etc/apt/sources.list.bu | sort -u > /etc/apt/sources.list22:29
L3topLady-Tux: I do not follow your question. Can you restate it? what is "my folder"22:30
blackmatrix_nyoconnore, true but If a person has that intention and ability to run a script then even if you encrypt your passwords then they can install a backdoor or keylogger or much more stuffs to get your information...22:30
alexandr0s<L3top>alexandr0s@alexandr0s:~$ sudo cat /etc/apt/sources.list.bu | sort -u > /etc/apt/sources.list22:30
DarwinSurvivorescott: you could always just uninstall everything else, but nothing really stops them from running stuff of a usb drive. basically: is this a usability or security issue?22:30
Lady-Tuxany folder when i clicked it instead of the folder that will display it seems virtualbox will be the open that'll be opened22:30
oconnoreDarwinSurvivor: that is less bad than all active passwords, yes.22:30
alexandr0s<L3top>bash: /etc/apt/sources.list: Permission denied22:30
L3topalexandr0s: type sudo -s and just run the first one again. cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.bu; cat /etc/apt/sources.list.bu | sort -u > /etc/apt/sources.list22:31
L3topthen exit22:31
alamhi again ... seems i am still stuck :/22:31
Lady-Tuxany folder when i clicked it instead of the folder that will display it seems virtualbox will be the open that'll be opened  L3top22:32
DarwinSurvivoroconnore: even ssh keys (possibly the most important thing on your computer) are stored in clear text and readable by any application with your credentials22:32
alamdoesnt seem to have made any difference - the settings were all on but i still muted them and refreshed and started them again22:32
blackmatrix_nyDarwinSurvivor, btw, did you mean that you were going to look into the idea that passwords using the gnome-keyring api will only be available to the application that stored the password only ?22:32
DarwinSurvivoroconnore: basically: Don't run software you don't trust. if you REALLY must, use a virtual machine or guest-session to do it!22:32
oconnoreDarwinSurvivor: for example, they would not be able to read my gpg encrypted emails, or my gpg encrypted tax returns22:32
oconnoreDarwinSurvivor: if my passphrase is compromised, all of that data is exposed.22:33
DarwinSurvivoroconnore: who is "they"?22:33
oconnoreDarwinSurvivor: this person who walked up and ran the python script22:33
terafl0psalam:  Did you try changing the master volume, muting the headphones, muting the speaker, changing the master volume again, and unmuting the speaker?22:33
L3top"will be the open that'll be opened" is just not clear Lady-Tux. I am sorry if there is a language barrier... are you saying any folder you attempt to open somehow opens virtual box, or that you are in virtualbox and... something else is happening?22:33
DarwinSurvivoroconnore: that's why you don't leave your computer unattended!22:33
DarwinSurvivoroconnore: or at the *very* least, lock the screen when you walk away22:33
alamterafl0ps: yup... muted and unmuted them all22:34
grpaceC'mon folks...  Just a simple question about Ubuntu One Cloud Storage???  No one willing to help ??22:34
oconnoreDarwinSurvivor: that's not the point, it's a retarded program design22:34
L3top!patience | grpace22:34
DarwinSurvivoroconnore: I don't understand why you are so upset about the keyring, but don't care about any of the OTHER stuff they have access to!22:34
ubottugrpace: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/22:34
oconnoreDarwinSurvivor: why expose my passwords when it's not necessary?22:34
oconnoreDarwinSurvivor: because anything I actually care about is encrypted with gpg22:34
Lady-Tuxthat's it sorry for the typo i'm a bit sleepy ..... when i open my folder somehow vbox app will open22:34
oconnoreDarwinSurvivor: as long as the passphrase is secret, nothing else matters22:34
grpaceThank you, ubottu.22:34
DarwinSurvivoroconnore: and do you use a separate gpg key for every applications files?22:35
alamterafl0ps:22:35
DarwinSurvivoroconnore: and how are you decrypting these files? if you use an ecryptfs-style setup, as soon as the encrypted files are mounted, they are visible anyways22:35
alamwhoops...22:35
oconnoreDarwinSurvivor: what are you talking about? the gpg program...22:35
terafl0psalam:  I'm not sure then.  There have been a fair number of problems with audio in this release.22:35
L3topWhere are you clicking this folder from Lady-Tux, and what version of ubuntu are you on, and which Desktop Environment?22:35
oconnoreDarwinSurvivor: in a memory mounted tmpfs22:36
oconnorewhich i unmount before i leave22:36
VOAtest22:36
alamterafl0ps: okay... no worries :)) thanks for your help22:36
DarwinSurvivoroconnore: yes, and those memory-mounted tmpfs's are visible just like any outher mounted partition, so if any application has the tmpfs mounted, all the others can see the contents anyways22:36
oconnoreDarwinSurvivor: for that short period of time, yes. I fail to see what your point is.22:37
Lady-Tuxat my panel next to Applications....and that is Places >  "ladytux folder" when i click it vbox app will open....i got ubuntu 10.04 lts22:37
blackmatrix_nyDarwinSurvivor, is it possible to make the key-ring provide password only to the application that saved it ?22:37
DarwinSurvivorif your security practice is to unmount your gpg tmpfs when you leave, then either lock your gnome-keyring as well or just lock the login session22:37
oconnoreDarwinSurvivor: it's the difference between exposing short peices of information vs. exposing everything I have ever encrypted.22:37
DarwinSurvivorblackmatrix_ny: not that I know of, how would it authenticate an application anyways?22:38
ascend716i upgraded and am screwed now i cant get pass 640X 480 even on the off chance i am lucky enough to boot to last working version22:38
ascend716 i have no cd roms and cannot boot through usb22:38
oconnore*pieces22:38
DarwinSurvivorascend716: how did you perform the initial installation?22:38
ascend716ANYWAY toi go back to 10.10 the last version that worked22:39
Lady-Tuxat my panel next to Applications....and that is Places >  "ladytux folder" when i click it vbox app will open....i got ubuntu 10.04 lts L3top22:39
uskerineDarwinSurvivor, any recommended web site or faq to customize user accounts to limit their usage to the minimum (libreoffice & firefox)22:39
uskerine?22:39
blackmatrix_nyDarwinSurvivor, there must be a way for the creating app to have the private key. And the public key and encrypted password would be stored in the keyring. So only that app can decrypt that password22:39
ascend716i did through the update center22:39
L3topLady-Tux: can you right click the folder and look through the properties for a possible answer?22:39
ascend716upgraded to 11.04 and then 11.1022:39
blackmatrix_nyDarwinSurvivor, or some similar mechanism like that22:39
alexandr0s<L3top>22:39
alexandr0s<L3top> same problem22:40
DarwinSurvivorblackmatrix_ny: then you need a way for the application to store a public/private key that the other applications can't get to and you are back to square 122:40
ascend716the initial install was done when my cd drive still worked22:40
ejoIs there a way to open an additional instance of a GUI program (in this case, my database administration tool)?  Normally clicking on it in the launcher opens a maximum of one instance.22:40
alexandr0s<L3top> nothing happend22:40
DarwinSurvivoruskerine: is this a usability (make it simply for the user) request, or a security (they MUST NOT run those applications) request?22:40
ejoWould it be specific to each program?  I'm working with pgadmin3 for postgresql on ubuntu 12.04.22:40
NogalHello everyone; I've got a few issues, fairly newbie, that I was wondering if I could get some help with.22:40
blackmatrix_nyDarwinSurvivor, right...22:40
DarwinSurvivorejo: try middle-clicking22:40
oconnoreDarwinSurvivor: there has to be a way to limit arbitrary program access to the full keyring...22:40
oconnoreI don't know why you can't see the value of that22:40
L3topalexandr0s: Please pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list22:40
uskerineit is a combination of usability and security (to avoid them play with the system and hence reducing the overhead of mantaining the server). it will be a single server for 10 users22:41
ejoDarwinSurvivor: thank you!  I don't have a middle button configured on my mouse22:41
ascend716is there anyway to mount and iso and get it to reinstall old version?22:41
DarwinSurvivoroconnore: what you are asking for is per-application sandboxing. outside of cellphones, this isn't done on ANY operating system22:41
blackmatrix_nyoconnore, but how would you go about that...im still thinking of ways22:41
CaptObvioushey guys, I installed the official ATI graphics drivers on ubuntu server by using apt-get install fglrxinfo fglrx-amdcccle and then rebooted, but fglrxinfo is giving me "Error: unable to open display (null)" - any ideas?22:41
oconnoreDarwinSurvivor: no i'm not. I'm asking for per application keyring limits.22:41
DarwinSurvivorejo: try clicking the left and right at the same time, it should emulate a middle mouse click22:41
ascend716the only displays that ever worked for me were in 8.04 and 10.1022:41
ejoCaptObvious: if you can get by without fglrx, just skip it!22:41
ejoCaptObvious: especially on a server OS install you won't need 3D acceleration...22:42
ascend716i have partial use in 11.1022:42
NogalDoes anyone know how to take the wireless that my router is recieving and to connect another PC via lan to my ubuntu laptop to give said pc a bridge to the wireless?22:42
CaptObviousI can't, otherwise I could22:42
CaptObviousyes, I will22:42
alexandr0s<L3top> http://pastebin.gr/184422:42
mkquistanyone know if gimp 2.8 can be compiled for 11.04?22:42
CaptObviousI wouldn't be asking if I didn't need it22:42
Lady-TuxL3top, same i can't do a right click on it ..... it still open vbox application if i do it22:42
DarwinSurvivormkquist: doubtful (at least easily), it probably needs a lot of updated libraries. probably easier just to upgrade to 12.0422:42
blackmatrix_nyDarwinSurvivor, does firefox or keypassx save the pwds in similar fashion like gnome-keyring ?22:43
L3topLady-Tux: can you navigate to this folder in command line?22:44
CerinI'm running 12.04 on a macbook. Gnome-shell crashed, making the UI unusable, so I did a hard reboot and now it looks like my machine is unbootable. Selecting the recovery kernel from the grub menu ends with the message "edd informatino not available". Please, can someone help me recover my machine?22:44
Lady-TuxL3top, how?22:44
DarwinSurvivoroconnore: unless someone can come up with a way to positively identify an application, isolating passwords per-application isn't going to be possible without the user supplying a separate password for each one22:44
L3topone moment Lady-Tux22:44
yoohahello guys22:44
Nogalanyone know how to bridge a wireless to wired connnection in ubuntu?22:44
blackmatrix_nyCerin, booting from usb ?22:45
yoohawhen i type some site its takes me to localhost any idea how to fix this22:45
DarwinSurvivoruskerine: and why can't you simply remove the applications?22:45
Cerinblackmatrix_ny: no, just the hdd22:45
blackmatrix_nyCerin, try booting from a ubuntu usb22:46
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blackmatrix_nyCerin, maybe some files corrupted in hdd22:46
CaptObviousno ideas on "Error: unable to open display (null)"?22:46
stars69hi what is the package name for flash anyone?22:46
terafl0psNogal, take a look at http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man5/bridge-utils-interfaces.5.html22:46
LordOfTime!flash | stars6922:46
ubottustars69: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also  !Restricted and !Gnash22:46
stars69LordOfTime, thanks22:47
yoohaguys any one knows why when i type some site in the bar adress its takes me to localhost ??22:47
DarwinSurvivoryooha: what IP address do you see if you run "ping google.com" in the terminal?22:47
Nogalterafl0ps: thank you22:48
terafl0psYou're welcome.22:48
oconnoreDarwinSurvivor: pathname would be better than nothing. the user can't install to /usr/bin, and most application permissions will be to /usr/bin/whatever.22:48
ejoDarwinSurvivor: Thanks again -- no result from the "both buttons click".  Maybe I should pursue the mouse click emulation first?  Is it the default of the 12.04 launcher to open additional application instances on middle-click?22:49
yoohaDarwinSurvivor: this PING google.com (74.125.79.138) 56(84) bytes of data.22:49
uskerineDarwinSurvivor, can "dashHome" be removed?22:49
DarwinSurvivorejo: it should be. there may also be a right-click menu option to open another instance (I don't have my 12.04 machine in front of me)22:50
yoohaDarwinSurvivor : this PING google.com (74.125.79.138) 56(84) bytes of data.22:50
DarwinSurvivoryooha: ok, now if you run "wget google.com; firefox index.html" what do you see?22:51
Nogalterafl0ps: sorry lost connection before i even started lol22:51
DarwinSurvivoruskerine: possibly, but there wouldn't be much left of unity if you did.22:52
yoohaDarwinSurvivor :  this --2012-05-20 22:51:57--  http://google.com/22:52
yoohaRésolution de google.com... 74.125.79.139, 74.125.79.101, 74.125.79.100, ...22:52
DarwinSurvivoryooha: something should have opened in firefox, what did it look like?22:53
Nogalterafl0ps: can you help explain this link to me?22:53
yoohayeh in chromuim its the page i jsut downloaded22:53
DarwinSurvivoruskerine: are these workstations that the same person will be using over and over?22:53
uskerineDarwinSurvivor, I want an interface as simple as possible, office icons, firefox icon, and home documents icon. I hope that it would be easier to use for the users22:54
alexandr0s<L3top> http://pastebin.gr/184422:54
alexandr0s<L3top> ??????22:54
ejoDarwinSurvivor: If the launcher's right-click menu for this particular app doesn't contain any option for opening an additional instance, is that then just something the app itself doesn't offer?  If that's likely then maybe I won't overly trouble myself over this.22:54
DarwinSurvivoruskerine: you could always just put those launcher in the launcher bar (and take out the others) and tell them to just launch stuff from there.22:54
DarwinSurvivorejo: which application?22:54
terafl0psNogal: It is describing how you would bridge two interfaces in your /etc/network/interfaces file.  The example config makes a bridge out of all available interfaces on the machine.22:55
ejoDarwinSurvivor: pgadmin3 -- it's the GUI admin client for postgreSQL.22:55
terafl0psYou can think of a network switch as a multiport bridge.22:55
ejoDarwinSurvivor: naturally I asked in #postgresql but they're not too big on the GUI client ;)22:55
DarwinSurvivorejo: hmm, never used it. try it with firefox, if you get firefox to do it but not your tool, then it may be the tool22:55
NogalI tried adding the "auto br0" code to my /etc/network/intferfaces22:56
Nogalhowever when I tried sudo ifup br0 it told me that it cannot find the device22:56
ejoDarwinSurvivor: yes, Firefox offers an "open a new window" option -- that's one of the data points that made me think that offering that option or not is on a per-application basis in Ubuntu22:56
terafl0psA bridge passes frames from one interface to the other if the destination MAC address lies on the opposite side of the bridge, otherwise it doesn't let the frame across.22:56
DarwinSurvivorejo: then it could very well be an application limitation. try contacting the developer of the GUI22:57
ejoDarwinSurvivor: and of course the default Terminal application does as well, that was my other hint22:57
adrian_2E0SDRI have removed LXDE & Openbox, but there are still bits left behind, plus they still show in the Desktop selection, how can i remove all traces of them?22:57
Nogalterafl0ps: that was a bit over my head...22:57
ejoDarwinSurvivor: yes, thanks again.  That's it for now!22:57
DarwinSurvivorejo: no problem22:58
yoohaDarwinSurvivor:  whats next ?? ; ]22:58
terafl0psNogal: br0 probably doesn't exist yet.22:58
terafl0psbr0 is the name of the bridge interface.22:59
Nogalhow do i make it exist?22:59
terafl0psYou would need to do "brctl addbr br0" first.22:59
DarwinSurvivoryooha: when you see localhost, does the address bar change to localhost?22:59
DarwinSurvivoryooha: or just the page content?22:59
yoohaDarwinSurvivor: noo22:59
yoohaDarwinSurvivor: just page content22:59
Nogalthank you -- getting the package now23:00
DarwinSurvivoryooha: how do you know it's localhost? do you have a webserver running or something like that?23:00
Cerinblackmatrix_ny: even the live cd seems to be locking up. I've tried the "recover a broken system" and nothing happened for 10 minutes23:00
yoohaDarwinSurvivor: yeh apache23:00
terafl0psNogal: this is kind of an advanced setup.  You might want to read through http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/networking/bridge before diving right in.23:00
yoohabuti rember i removed it i guess DarwinSurvivor23:00
DarwinSurvivoryooha: could you provide a screenshot by any chance?23:01
yoohaDarwinSurvivor: i still have it23:01
yoohaDarwinSurvivor: sure hang on23:01
Cerinblackmatrix_ny: and now I can't even get the CD out because grub doesn't support the eject button23:02
blackmatrix_nyCerin, don't you have a USB ?23:03
scar3crowI have lost rear audio after installing ampache and lamp stack... what did I do wrong pls?23:04
Cerinblackmatrix_ny: macbooks don't work with ubuntu live usbs23:04
Cerinblackmatrix_ny: something about them using efi, whereas the live usbs expect something else23:04
blackmatrix_nyCerin, I'm not sure how to go about debugging your grub then...maybe other folks who know well about it might help...sorry mate23:04
ejoDarwinSurvivor: I overlooked the obvious! ahaha.  /usr/bin/pgadmin3 launches an additional instance without complaint or error.23:05
DarwinSurvivorejo: well, there you go then :)23:05
LinTuxanybody here using GNURADIO23:06
DarwinSurvivorejo: actually, if running the command again works, then turning on middle-mouse-button-emulation will probably work!23:06
CerinI'm running 12.04 on a macbook. Gnome-shell crashed, making the UI unusable, so I did a hard reboot and now it looks like my machine is unbootable. Selecting the recovery kernel from the grub menu ends with the message "edd information not available". Please, can someone help me recover my machine?23:06
DarwinSurvivorejo: I think the "second window" and "second terminal" items in firefox & terminal are ADDED by the applications.23:06
L3topalexandr0s: You do not have duplicate sources as near as I can tell. You should not receive an error after apt-get update23:07
alexandr0s<L3top> but the problem remains,23:09
OerHeksL3top, i see 1 line without gr. >> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-security universe multiverse main restricted23:09
yoohaDarwinSurvivor: i sent u it pls accept it23:09
Nogalterafl0ps: thank you, the document let me know that it is not currently supported for wireless. unfortunately this is something windows does do out of the box...23:09
DarwinSurvivoryooha: sent me it?23:10
terafl0psNogal, what are you trying to ultimately accomplish?23:10
L3topalexandr0s: can you please post the line which says it is duplicated?23:10
alexandr0s<L3top> what is happening can you please explain???23:10
yoohaDarwinSurvivor the screen capture23:10
alexandr0s<L3top>yes23:10
Nogalterafl0ps: ultimately i'm trying to repair another laptop. i think i'm just going to reformat ext4 and start over though.23:10
L3topIt appears that because you have a gr and a non gr link, it shows as duplication as OerHeks suggests.23:10
DarwinSurvivoryooha: please use http://imagebin.org/?page=add23:11
Nogali installed 12.04 on it last night and everything is sluggish as hell, unity keeps crashing23:11
Nogalwas trying to bridge a connection to at least get it online as the wireless card is missing firmware23:11
terafl0psNogal: but are you trying to share Internet connectivity from one interface to another?23:11
alexandr0s<L3top>Fetched 95,6 kB in 9s (10,1 kB/s)23:11
alexandr0sReading package lists... Done23:11
alexandr0sW: Duplicate sources.list entry http://gr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise/multiverse i386 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/gr.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_precise_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages)23:11
alexandr0sW: Duplicate sources.list entry http://gr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise/restricted i386 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/gr.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_precise_restricted_binary-i386_Packages)23:11
alexandr0sW: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems23:11
OerHeksL3top, alexandr0s yes, delete or # the line without gr.23:12
NogalI am, purely to get the 2nd laptop's wireless cards firmware23:12
ejoDarwinSurvivor: I see, thanks23:12
DarwinSurvivor!paste | alexandr0s23:12
ubottualexandr0s: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.23:12
terafl0psNogal: So you have one machine with a working wireless ethernet connection to the Internet, and you want to make that Internet connection available to a second machine through a wired link?23:12
alexandr0s<L3top> ok??? can you read this?23:13
Nogalyes23:13
alexandr0s<L3top> ok??? can you read the lines23:13
L3topalexandr0s: type sudo -s and then: cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.bu; cat /etc/apt/sources.list.bu | grep 'gr.arch' > /etc/apt/sources.list23:13
terafl0psNogal: Ok.  We can do that without bridging.23:13
L3topthat is probably easier than walking you through editing as root23:14
NogalI'm interested in hearing more...23:15
alexandr0s<L3top> ok23:15
alexandr0s<L3top> then?? apt-get update as root??23:15
terafl0psNogal: http://paste.ubuntu.com/998190/23:15
alexandr0s<L3top> or exit from root and then sudo apt-get update23:15
terafl0psNogal:  I wrote that script earlier to do just that. :)23:16
L3topapt-get update as root23:16
L3topalexandr0s: ^23:16
Nogalterafl0ps I'm a n00b, do I run that in my terminal?23:16
alexandr0s<L3top> what ^ means23:16
alexandr0s?23:16
CerinI'm running 12.04 on a macbook. Gnome-shell crashed, making the UI unusable, so I did a hard reboot and now it looks like my machine is unbootable. Selecting the recovery kernel from the grub menu ends with the message "edd information not available". Please, can someone help me recover my machine?23:16
L3topIt means look up as I forgot to type alexandr0s.23:17
Nogali really appreciate this by the way23:17
alexandr0sok23:17
terafl0psNogal:  Yes, but you may need to make some changes depending on the configuration of your Ubuntu machine with the wireless connection.23:17
yoohaDarwinSurvivor:  here you go http://imagebin.org/21318223:17
terafl0psNogal: It assumes your wireless card is wlan023:17
terafl0psand your wired card is eth023:17
alexandr0s<L3top> nothing changed23:18
Nogalmy wireless is wlan0 and my lan port is eth023:18
Jirayabetterhi all23:18
Jirayabetteri've to abilitaty the 3d acceleration on an integrated chipset23:18
terafl0psNogal: It also sets your wired interface to have an IP of 10.1.1.1.23:18
DarwinSurvivoryooha: and that happens in *all* your browsers?23:18
terafl0psNogal: So you could give your second machine an IP address of 10.1.1.2.23:19
terafl0psand point the second machine to 10.1.1.1 as its default gateway23:19
Jirayabetterthe version is intel GM 96523:19
Nogalterafl0ps: http://paste.ubuntu.com/998196/23:19
yoohaDarwinSurvivor:  you got it ?23:19
Jirayabettercan somebody help?23:20
DarwinSurvivoryooha: yes, I got the link. does it do that in ALL your browsers?23:20
MestreLionguys... I'm having a problem with Aisleriot (Solitaire) and the launcher...23:20
terafl0psNogal:  Ah.  When I ran the script I did it as root.  You need to put a "sudo" in front of all of those commands.23:21
Jirayabettermy question was ignored?23:21
MestreLionguys... I'm having a problem with Aisleriot (Solitaire) and the launcher... if I pin it to the launcher, it stops identifying windows... i can launch, but I cannot list or control its windows... is this a known issue?23:21
Jirayabetter\connect23:21
escott!ask | Jirayabetter23:21
ubottuJirayabetter: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience23:21
yoohaDarwinSurvivor:  not all some sites23:22
Jirayabetterok. i've to abilitaty the 3d acceleration on an integrated chipset. the version is intel GM 96523:22
yoohaDarwinSurvivor:  and this one included23:22
DarwinSurvivoryooha: ok, but what about other *browsers* (firefox, etc)?23:22
Cerinblackmatrix_ny: I finally got it to boot the live cd. what do I do now that I23:23
yoohaDarwinSurvivor: i have only chromuim and i rember the FF does that too tho23:23
escottJirayabetter, abilitaty??23:23
MestreLionSo far it it only happend to Aisleriot. And worse: if I unpin it while some instances are running, the windows get completely lost (not in the launcher at all, or in ATL+TAB), if I minimuze them they just disappear23:23
Jirayabettersry enable23:23
DarwinSurvivoryooha: can you pastebin your /etc/hosts file?23:23
escottJirayabetter, you don't need to do anything to enable acceleration on intel chipsets23:24
Jirayabetterbut i've installed playonlinux and he said the 3d acceleration is not enables23:24
Cerinblackmatrix_ny: *I'm in? I've entered rescue mode, and I can load a shell, reinstaller, reinstall grub, etc23:24
Jirayabetterenabled23:24
Nogalterafl0ps: sorry my connection crashed there, I figured out "sudo su" for this one23:25
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terafl0psNogal: Did all of those commands run successfully on the connected machine?23:25
Nogalyes23:25
LinuX2halfhow do you shut down the computer? I'm running Ubuntu 12.04, it seems there's no option for it.23:25
escottJirayabetter, intel GMA is a very poor 3d chipset23:25
terafl0psGreat.23:25
Nogallinux2half: top right gear, click it for a menu23:26
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Jirayabetterso i can try to ignore it and install the game?23:26
terafl0psNogal: Now give the second machine an IP of 10.1.1.2 with a subnet mask of 255.255.255.0.23:26
LinuX2halfNogal: All I see is two accounts23:26
yoohaDarwinSurvivor:  ok23:26
L3topalexandr0s: please pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list again. Keeping in mind, that this message is harmless... and nothing bad will happen to your system, perhaps we can figure out why it sees duplicates.23:26
Jirayabetterworld of warcraft runned successfully on that machone23:26
Nogalthere should be a gear next to the accounts23:26
LinuX2halfNogal: User accounts, Switch user, no shutdown option23:27
Nogalok teraflops do I do that through etc/network/interfaces?23:27
DarwinSurvivoryooha: if you are having difficulties getting files onto pastebin, use pastebinit23:27
DarwinSurvivor!pastebinit | yooha23:27
ubottuyooha: pastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com23:27
Nogallinux2half try running an update to see if for some reason it's missing23:27
DarwinSurvivoryooha: intall that, then just run "pastebinit /etc/hosts"23:27
yoohaDarwinSurvivor:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/998205/23:28
Cerinblackmatrix_ny: thanks, I'm not sure how, but that fixed it23:28
LinuX2halfNogal: nope, I run the command apt-get update but it didn't detect anything wrong or install anything.23:28
terafl0psNogal:  The default gateway for the second machine should be 10.1.1.1, and you'll have to Go into it's /etc/resolv.conf and point it to a valid DNS server so it can resolve I hostnames.23:28
DarwinSurvivoryooha: hmm, that looks normal23:29
alexandr0s<L3top> http://pastebin.gr/184523:29
DarwinSurvivoryooha: can you run "traceroute google.com"?23:29
kurantahey, I'm having trouoble after trying to update to precise23:30
kurantacan anyone help?23:30
Nogalterafl0ps: it tells me "do not edit this by hand -- changes will be overwritten."23:30
LordOfTime!details | kuranta23:30
ubottukuranta: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."23:30
terafl0psNogal:  network manager overwrites it if you change settings there, but since this is a temporary configuration for troubleshooting the second machine anyway, you can safely ignore it. :)23:31
kurantaSorry! The update was going fine until it asked me to restart. When I did so, my mouse and keyboard weren't working properly, no icons were visible, and the background to my desktop was solid blue23:31
yoohaDarwinSurvivor:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/998210/23:31
Nogalok... what changes do i make?23:31
terafl0psNogal: is there a nameserver listed?23:32
DarwinSurvivoryooha: ok, is "google.com" one of the addresse that works or doesn't work in chromium?23:32
yoohaDarwinSurvivor:  it does work23:32
kurantaI tried booting from an old kernel, and the mouse worked but now absolutely nothing was working once I logged in.23:33
DarwinSurvivoryooha: oops. can you try traceroute with one that doesn't work :P23:33
yoohaok23:33
Nogalterafl0ps: http://paste.ubuntu.com/998211/23:33
Nogalthat's all that is in resolv.conf23:34
kurantaanyone?23:34
terafl0psNogal: add a line that reads "nameserver 208.67.222.222"23:34
adioI'm having troubles with ubuntu over heating on LTS over heating on my laptop, i've cleaned it out all the fans work, I23:35
terafl0psThat's an OpenDNS name server.23:35
yoohaDarwinSurvivor:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/998213/23:35
adiogod i can't type today23:35
escott!info powertop | adio23:35
ubottuadio: powertop (source: powertop): Linux tool to find out what is using power on a laptop. In component main, is extra. Version 1.97-2 (precise), package size 121 kB, installed size 372 kB23:35
DarwinSurvivoryooha: do you know what dns server you are using? if not, please pastebin the contents of /etc/resolv.conf23:35
indianany one using virtualbox 4.1.14 and tried 3d acceleration23:35
terafl0psindian: I have.23:36
indianterafl0ps, I am getting crash or lag when I try to play any video23:36
goddardcan I get some help with this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=181716423:36
nydelhelp please: i'm having trouble getting my remote to work with VLC in ubuntu23:36
terafl0psindian: What guest OS?23:36
yoohaDarwinSurvivor:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/998216/23:37
DarwinSurvivoryooha: ok, who is your internet service provider?23:37
kurantaanyone want to help? my computer is just totally borked after attempting to update to 12.0423:37
indianterafl0ps, windows 7 and windows xp23:37
nydelgoddard: i doubt i can help but i'm taking a look23:37
yoohaDarwinSurvivor:  im from morroco and im using my phone as a modem23:37
nydelkuranta: tell me the problem23:38
DarwinSurvivoryooha: OH, that would have been good to know to start with. do those websites open properly on your phone?23:38
Daedalus_Hi all. I have one quick noob question and I'm done if anyone is able to help.23:38
indianterafl0ps, what guest are you using?23:38
yoohaDarwinSurvivor: if i change my server dns fo eg to google ones it ll get overided23:39
kurantanydel: once I restarted after the update, the mouse and keyboard were no longer working properly, all icons were invisible or just white boxes with red x's, and the desktop background was solid blue.23:39
terafl0psIndian: same as you Windows 7 and XP on an Ubuntu 12.04 host.23:39
yoohaDarwinSurvivor:  noo lately adf.ly it doesnt but i dont see why tho23:39
indianterafl0ps, do you have video playback with 3d acceleration enbaled23:39
Daedalus_I'm using the windows installer. It askes about installation size, is this in reference to free space it will allocate for ubuntu or is in reference to a larger install package?23:39
L3topalexandr0s: please type gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and place a #  at the beginning of line 3, and save the file, and run update again.23:39
Nogalback... crashed my connection again23:40
DarwinSurvivoryooha: my guess is your cellphone provider is blocking it. set your dns a 3rd party one and it will probably start working23:40
terafl0psIndian: I haven't done a lot with it, but I noticed DirectX stuff was really laggy in that configuration.23:40
kurantanydel: I tried booting from an old kernel, and it solved some of the problems but made others worse23:40
Nogali think i'm going to give up on this and just leave windowsXP on the other laptop23:40
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yoohaDarwinSurvivor:  and how can i do that ??23:40
terafl0psIndian:  What setting are you thinking of for video playback?23:41
Nogali'll give it 1 more fresh install but after that i'll just expand NTFS23:41
indianterafl0ps, I got some CBT's that I can only play in windows23:41
alexandr0s<L3top> #deb http://gr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise restricted multiverse (LIKE THIS)23:42
indianI have 570m card I enbaled 3d accelration and gave 128 to 256mb video memory23:42
L3topcorrect alexandr0s23:42
DarwinSurvivoryooha: open network manager, go to your connection and change the DNS settings to manual and use "8.8.8.8" (google's dns)23:42
indianstill it crashes when playing any video23:42
yoohaDarwinSurvivor: i have only the command line version no GUI23:42
DarwinSurvivoryooha: alternatively, you could try changing the DNS server on your phone (since your laptop is using the phone's DNS), but it's probably locked23:43
terafl0psIndian:  Does virtualbox itself crash?23:43
goddardnydel: thanks pal23:43
L3topgoddard: that seems to have a solution in it... what issue are you still having?23:43
DarwinSurvivoryooha: what tool do you use for connecting to the phone?23:43
indianterafl0ps, nope just vlc23:43
goddardL3top: it does?23:43
yoohawired theter DarwinSurvivor23:43
kurantaanyone, help? I don't even know where to start on fixing this. Broken mouse and keyboard and blue background after updating to 12.04. Booting to old kernel doesn't help much23:43
skxhey, after the upgrade to 12.04 something weird happened to grub and it doesn't boot the newest kernel by default but the older one (from 11.10), how do I fix it?23:44
goddardL3top: i plug the drive in and it doesn't show up in a USB 3.0 slot23:44
alexandr0s<L3top>wait for pastebin the result ok??23:44
DarwinSurvivoryooha: no, which *ubuntu* tool are you using (wicd-curses, ifconfig, etc)?23:44
esmirlinhey guys do you know how to get multitouch gestures in precise?23:44
goddardL3top: it works perfectly in a USB 2.0 slot23:44
terafl0psIndian:  I can't help there really because I don't normally run VLC in Windows in VB.23:44
skxhey, after the upgrade to 12.04 something weird happened to grub and it doesn't boot the newest kernel by default but the older one (from 11.10), how do I fix it? the new grub configuration is seriously complicated23:44
L3topgoddard: does lsusb see it? the 3.0?23:45
terafl0psNogal: When you say you crashed your connection, what happened?23:45
alexandr0s<L3top>http://pastebin.gr/184623:45
L3topthe solution there goddard is to edit grub w GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash pci=nomsi"23:45
yoohaDarwinSurvivor: i didnt get ur question but i use network manager without GUI23:45
indianterafl0ps, I tried with WMP and it lags after few seconds and finally gets stuck23:45
Nogalterafl0ps: while I had the two laptops connected via lan cable it kept breaking my wireless connection23:45
L3topwell there you go alexandr0s.23:45
DarwinSurvivoryooha: cnetworkmanager?23:46
zybaldoalgum brasileiro por aqui?23:46
kurantahelp!anyone, help? Nonfunctioning mouse and keyboard and blue background after updating to 12.04. Booting to old kernel doesn't help much (although there at least I can get to the command line)23:46
indianterafl0ps, but I can play without 3d acceleration but then I read with 3d the playback taxing on CPU will be less23:46
alexandr0s<L3top>now let's see if the update manager works properly23:46
DarwinSurvivoryooha: basically, can you paste the command you use to connect to the phone?23:46
L3top!br | zybaldo23:46
ubottuzybaldo: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigado.23:46
NogalI'm just going to reinstall 12.04 with a fresh disk on the other laptop with it connected via eth0 straight to the router so hopefully it will pick up the firmware and fix all of the sluggish problems, XP is currently running about 5-10x as fast as the ubuntu partition23:46
yoohaDarwinSurvivor: i dont type any i just plug the usb and it work23:46
DarwinSurvivoryooha: oh, it's usb, ok23:47
yoohaDarwinSurvivor:  yes23:47
esmirlinhey guys do you know how to get multitouch gestures in precise?23:47
DarwinSurvivoryooha: well, I don't use network manager from the cli, so all I can suggest is to edit /etc/resolv.conf and change the ip to "8.8.8.8", but you will need to redo that each time you reconnect23:47
nibbler_hi. http://nopaste.dk/p5120 - why does apt-file find a packet, but apt-get cannot install it?23:47
yoohamaybe its this http://paste.ubuntu.com/998226/23:47
vexaxvanyone in here play minecraft?23:47
DarwinSurvivoryooha: try that now and see if it fixes the problem.23:48
alexandr0s<L3top>well it say no updates but i allready did a apt-get update so i ask you one more time before i thank you. is everything ok???23:48
yoohaDarwinSurvivor:  ok23:48
DarwinSurvivoryooha: if it does fix the problem, perharps someone else can help you make the change permanent23:48
L3topyes alexandr0s. Everything is good.23:48
yoohaDarwinSurvivor: it works  ;] thanks23:49
alexandr0s<L3top>ok man thank you very.....very much.23:49
yoohabut it get overirded next time : P23:49
L3topnp23:49
DarwinSurvivoryooha: ok, one more thing to do. phone your cell phone company and ask them why their DNS server is altering entries!23:50
DarwinSurvivoryooha: it may be a "feature" you can opt out of23:50
terafl0psNogal: You may need to re-run that last ifconfig eth0 10.1.1.1 line once the wired connection comes up.  If you ran my script while the cable between the  laptops wasn't connected, the first computer may have tried to get an internet connection through the wired link.23:50
yoohaDarwinSurvivor:  ill look in the web for it23:51
yoohathanks23:51
DarwinSurvivoryooha: no problem23:51
terafl0psNogal: but this would have failed because the second machine obviously can't get to the Internet.23:51
L3topnibbler_: does apt-cache search libgtk2.0-dev       return a result?23:51
nibbler_L3top, no, no result there.23:52
DarwinSurvivoryooha: for future reference though, if you are having internet problems and you are tethering off a cellphone (ESPECIALLY if that cellphone has the same problem), giving that information can save a LOT of time23:52
yoohaDarwinSurvivor: i didnt tho of it ;P23:52
L3topfile search != cache search. what version ubuntu are you on nibbler_?23:52
nibbler_L3top, 12.423:53
Nogalterafl0ps: yeah, I just downloaded another 12.04 iso and i'm going to try to reinstall the whole system with it connected to the router in the garage. I'm tired of messing with this. If it works, great, if not, screw it and I'll expand ntfs23:53
nibbler_i just need retroshare, but the ppa does not support 12.4. building it myself works, but as a runtime dependency it needs gpa, which is not in ubuntu anymore, building it fails due to missing gtk/gtk.h - how to get gtk.h?23:53
aLLStaR [ U y a r ý ]  :  nibbler_  : Lütfen Seviyeyi Düþürmeyiniz Aksi Taktirde Kanaldan Uzaklaþtýrýlýcaksýnýz !.iyi sohbetler dilerim...23:53
L3topthats weird nibbler_... it is in main. What does your /etc/apt/sources.list look like? Can you pastebin it?23:53
aLLStaR [ U y a r ý ]  :  L3top  : Lütfen Seviyeyi Düþürmeyiniz Aksi Taktirde Kanaldan Uzaklaþtýrýlýcaksýnýz !.iyi sohbetler dilerim...23:53
L3top!tr | aLLStaR23:55
ubottuaLLStaR: Turk ubuntu kullanıcıları, Türkçe yardım ya da geyik için /join #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.23:55
nibbler_L3top, http://nopaste.dk/p512123:55
aLLStaRthanks23:55
terafl0psindian: This is probably more of a virtualbox question than an ubuntu question.  You'll probably get more help in their channel.  I know I had to go through the whole installation of the VBoxAdditions in safe mode procedure to get mine to work.  I also had to reinstall DirectX.23:55
Nogalafk23:55
greenwolfi am having a problem on a fresh install of ubuntu seems to not be picking up my dell wireless card23:57
greenwolfhow can i get this working?23:57
L3topnibbler_: that is a wee bit confusing. Can you apt-get update apt-cache policy libgtk2.0-dev23:57
nibbler_L3top, i re-ran apt-get update, now it is found23:57
L3toplol23:58
L3topok23:58
greenwolfanyone?23:58
MestreLionany known issue regarding apps that behave *very* strangely after being pinned to launcher? Like launcher not being able to track windows anymore?23:58
greenwolfubuntu seems to have not found or picked up my wireless card?23:58
greenwolfhow can i get this working23:58
L3topgreenwolf: you waited 4 seconds23:58
greenwolfi sorry23:58
L3topI couldnt even type a reply23:59
MestreLiongreenwolf: did you check system settings > hardware drivers already?23:59
greenwolfthis is an old driver why is this not inculded\23:59
greenwolfim using ubuntu server so just command line23:59
L3topWhat kind of wireless card do you have? lspci | grep -Ei '(wireless|wlan)'23:59
L3topgreenwolf:23:59

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