[00:01] <ellis> chip8874, that's strange. Your best bet is reading into MSI-X. It's pretty low level stuff, my guess is that the kernel either doesn't support your GPU, or the necessary modules aren't loaded
[00:02] <DoctorMonocular> hey everyone, having a good saturday?
[00:02] <chip8874> so should I use an older version of ubuntu or fedora? I have no clue what msi-x is but I will attempt to educate myself
[00:03] <ellis> chip8874, have you had other operating systems working on the computer, like Windows?
[00:03] <chip8874> no. I assembled it today
[00:03] <chip8874> and I don't really want to download windows, tbh
[00:03] <ellis> chip8874, It could be a hardware fault then with the GPU. It's hard to say
[00:04] <DoctorMonocular> I've been pulling my hair out today trying to troubleshoot my ruby / rails and related software, it's acting up
[00:04] <Conradzz> should I use synaptic or ubunut software center?
[00:04] <DoctorMonocular> the first thing I want to do is remove rvm from my system entirely
[00:04] <DoctorMonocular> but I can't seem to do that
[00:04] <L3top> chip8874: I am beginning to wonder if your gpu is sound. Is this on-board?
[00:04] <ellis> chip8874, without trying a non-Linux-kernel operating system, you can't rule out the possibility that the hardware isn't faulty
[00:05] <DoctorMonocular> ruby-rvm shows as an installed package, and removing it gets a message about it not being installed
[00:05] <chip8874> L3top: I don't think my motherboard has onboard graphics. There are no kinds of visual ports on the mobo. It's an xfx radeon hd 6790
[00:05] <chip8874> ellis:
[00:06] <chip8874> ellis: Right. Are there any ways of testing this?
[00:06] <L3top> shows as installed where DoctorMonocular
[00:06] <ellis> chip8874, I would bet money that your computer would boot into a non-graphical OS fine. Download Arch Linux and boot that
[00:06] <sun_devil> Anybody know the command line phrase to kill or stop bluetooth.  I did a service bluetooth stop, which did not work
[00:06] <ellis> chip8874, If it boots Arch Linux fine, then it's definitely a graphics problem (hardware or software)
[00:07] <chip8874> ellis: I will try this and see what happens
[00:07] <L3top> You can boot ubuntu headless and do the same thing
[00:07] <chip8874> L3top: ok how do you do that?
[00:07] <ellis> chip8874, yes go with L3top suggestion
[00:08] <DoctorMonocular> @L3top, I take it back now, it's not showing anymore when I write dpkg -l | grep rvm
[00:08] <L3top> chip8874: you can grab a minimal iso and only install what you need, and test graphics from there... but... you have been here a minute, is this a problem with install or live boot?
[00:08] <DoctorMonocular> however, when I search
[00:08] <DoctorMonocular> there are LOTS of rvm files in the system
[00:08] <DoctorMonocular> config files and sutff that I suspect is messing me up down the line
[00:08] <DoctorMonocular> wrong paths, that sort of thing
[00:09] <DoctorMonocular> I gather the correct way to install it for now is with curl, not apt-get
[00:09] <L3top> DoctorMonocular: apt-get remove --purge ruby-rvm
[00:09] <L3top> DoctorMonocular: when you simply remove, it gets rid of some things but keeps config files etc
[00:09] <chip8874> L3top: they both behave the same way. I can pick the run option or the install option and they behave the same way. An attempt at a fedora install gave the same visuals before crashing
[00:10] <DoctorMonocular> @L3top, when I run that command it works, but it says 0 ugraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove, and 11 not upgraded
[00:10] <DoctorMonocular> so it apparently changed nothing
[00:10] <chip8874> L3top: And, Im sorry, but how do I get a minimal iso
[00:10] <L3top> !nomodeset | chip8874
[00:10] <crash1hd> Hey all is there an easy way to allow access to / on a live cd using samba without asking for a username / password as on my windows end it wants to enter a username / password with domain yet I am not on a domain?
[00:10] <wilee-nilee> !minimal
[00:10] <L3top> DoctorMonocular: there was nothing to uninstall, but check for those config files now
[00:11] <ellis> chip8874, Download minimal CD from here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[00:11] <DoctorMonocular> L3top, I'm still seeing dozens of directories and files scattered everywhere, and I haven't even tried to look inside files for the string rvm yet
[00:12] <L3top> DoctorMonocular: you might consider installing it, then purging it.
[00:13] <DoctorMonocular> L3top, I had though of just deleting the files, but I can't seem to -- lemme try it from the terminal with sudo
[00:13] <m1jj> linux is the new windows and freebsd is the new linux
[00:13] <L3top> DoctorMonocular: dpkg -S ruby-rvs
[00:13] <nickgaw> Hi, I am trying to find the download link for the package that allows you to make a custom live ubuntu CD but the page all it talks about is the program not where to download it?
[00:14] <DoctorMonocular> L3top, no path matching pattern *ruby-rvm*
[00:14] <ellis> mljj: laptop are the new desktop and netbooks are the new laptops
[00:14] <chip8874> ubottu: I do not get to that purple screen
[00:14] <baddhabit> no... no no.. still not working... tired of this.. reinstalling.. i give up.. sigh
[00:14] <chip8874> oops noob mistake
[00:14] <L3top> nickgaw: you are probably talking about remastersys... yes?
[00:15] <nickgaw> correct that is the program where no download link I can find
[00:16] <L3top> DoctorMonocular: I do not know if dpkg -S works with globs... try ruby-rvm with both -S and -L
[00:17] <L3top> you will have to add the repo based on your distro nickgaw
[00:17] <L3top> what version are you on nickgaw
[00:17] <nickgaw> I have both a debian and ubuntu 12.04 install where on the page can I find the list of repos?
[00:18] <indian> any one using hotot
[00:18] <L3top> nickgaw: http://www.remastersys.com/ubuntu.html  look for Where can I get
[00:19] <nickgaw> ok
[00:20] <szymon_g> hi
[00:22] <szymon_g> how can i turn off the graphic boot in newest ubuntu? i've deleted "quiet splash" options in that new grub list, but its still hangs
[00:22] <szymon_g> i would like to either boot in text mode, or in working graphical mode (even with low resolution etc)- so i'll be able to install proper drivers
[00:23] <DoctorMonocular> L3top, ok going through the terminal to delete all the rvm files and folders worked, so now I want to search for all the files on my system that have the text rvm in them (specifically looking for config files that contain the old path information) -- what's the best way?
[00:23] <L3top> sudo grep -r rvm /*             but its gonna take a while, and find a lot.
[00:24] <DoctorMonocular> L3top, ok -- I can do that, but meanwhile, any ideaas on which config files might contain that path info I'm trying to purge?
[00:24] <sun_devil> I guess to remove bluetooth you also have to remove its dependencies?
[00:25] <jgalt> how can I get my marvell 802.11 pci card working.  the installer did not find it but lspci lists it.
[00:25] <L3top> well thats an odd grouping of chars... it might not find THAT much... but more than I ever expect... Not really DoctorMonocular... like I said, I would have installed it again and done a purge... would have at least gotten a lot closer.
[00:26] <jgalt> it's a marvel 88w8335 based card.
[00:26] <herp> I want espeak to sound like os x say command
[00:27] <herp> how can i do this
[00:30] <alexhairyman> is there a command to force quit a window in 12.04?
[00:30] <herp> how can i change the espeak voice?
[00:31] <L3top> alexhairyman: alt f4? right click on taskbar and quit... or drop to a termnial and get mean.
[00:32]  * L3top is using kubu... loses track of chats
[00:32] <alexhairyman> Is that universal? I kept looking through my path for xquit or xforce, or something similar, but it was actually xquit
[00:34] <nickgaw> Is there an easy way on ubuntu 12.04 to install the real gnome classic setup as I am totally blind and find the new setup tricky to use with orca?
[00:34] <LordOfTime> nickgaw:  apt-get install gnome-classic?
[00:35] <LordOfTime> !notunity | nickgaw
[00:35] <LordOfTime> !classic | nickgaw
[00:35] <zykotick9> nickgaw: gome-panel gives a very gnome2 like environment
[00:35] <sun_devil> Is there a way to block bluetooth?  I do a chkconfig and can't rid it of my machine
[00:36] <DoctorMonocular> L3top, you weren't kidding, grep has just been sitting there 8/
[00:36] <nickgaw> so the normal gnome-classic is in ubuntu 12.04 as reading on line I read that that package did not provide that desktop?
[00:36] <DoctorMonocular> but I think I can't move on without making sure the paths aren't just sitting there waiting to mess things up
[00:38] <L3top> It is literally searching text against every readable character in every file on your computer. It will filter through your movies looking for it. Gonna take a while.
[00:38] <DoctorMonocular> this is a fresh install on an SSD, so hopefully it won't take TOO much longer
[00:38]  * L3top hearts ruby btw
[00:38] <L3top> wont
[00:38] <DoctorMonocular> yeah I love it... when I can get it to work, haha
[00:39] <DoctorMonocular> the problem is that I'm pretty green with linux so I'm fighting with that instead of writing code
[00:39] <DoctorMonocular> I've been mostly a .NET guy for like 10 years
[00:39] <DoctorMonocular> so it's a switch
[00:43] <m1jj> what is linux all about? freedom? i think it could be a technology that enslaves us all.
[00:44] <DoctorMonocular> I'll have what m1jj is having, whatever it is
[00:44] <DoctorMonocular> maaaan
[00:44] <DoctorMonocular> 8)
[00:44] <gccster> guys ive installed ubuntu 12.04 nvidia drivers+bumblebee how can i enable touchpad vertical scroll?
[00:46] <T_A_N_K> my pc pooped
[00:46] <OerHeks> gccster, there is a #bumblebee irc channel here on #freenode. those guys are up2date
[00:46] <gccster> OerHeks, im not sure its a bumbleebee problem
[00:48] <sun_devil> Having a problem installing telnet
[00:49] <szymon_g> sun_devil: why would you like to use it?
[00:49] <szymon_g> and what's the problem?
[00:50] <sun_devil> Sometimes cant access ssh
[00:51] <remlabm> so, cool trick. I decided i wanted to rotate a monitor clockwise. Did somethings, rebooted and now when unity is loaded i get a broken screen and unresponsive mouse. Any ideas?
[00:54] <DoctorMonocular> are there any nice alternative terminal programs? I'd like to be able to do things I can do in any text editor
[00:54] <DoctorMonocular> like CTRL+V
[00:54] <DoctorMonocular> or CTRL+arrow key
[00:54] <DoctorMonocular> stuff like that
[00:54] <remlabm> or, does anyone know how i can remove unity display settings so i atleast can get back to GUI?
[01:03] <veinos> Is there something I need to do so ubuntu uses full wireless N capability? I'm stuck at 4meg/sec transfering on my network rather than the full 8meg I usually get
[01:04] <szymon_g> i wish i could use even 4 mb, so do not complain ;)
[01:05] <veinos> well, 8 is twice better, believe me
[01:07] <GeekSquid1> DoctorMonocular: Ctrl-shift-V is the trick
[01:12] <DoctorMonocular> GeekSquid1, thanks for that, I didn't know
[01:13] <DoctorMonocular> but alas, I think suicide maybe the answer (joke) -- after all that, reinstalling everything and having it appear to work
[01:13] <DoctorMonocular> I opened a second terminal window
[01:13] <DoctorMonocular> and just tried to run the console
[01:13] <DoctorMonocular> and it doesn't know where to find ruby
[01:14] <DoctorMonocular> the first terminal does though, which tells me... something -- I know it's a config somewhere, but I'm lost on what I actually need to change
[01:14] <dzup> i dont like unity
[01:14] <mun> i see that libpng 1.2.46-3ubuntu1.3 was released as an update, but does that mean the version in the current PPA is also that version?
[01:14] <dzup> i need to uninstall unity, how?
[01:15] <L3top> !nounity | dzup
[01:15] <DoctorMonocular> L3top, any idea why one terminal would work while another terminal window doesn't work?
[01:15] <L3top> Can you expoind
[01:15] <L3top> expound*
[01:15] <dzup> L3top: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS \n \l here.
[01:16] <DoctorMonocular> see above -- I reinstalled everything, so I have rvm running ruby 1.9.3
[01:16] <DoctorMonocular> rails works
[01:16] <DoctorMonocular> it's running my app
[01:16] <DoctorMonocular> I can get the console
[01:16] <DoctorMonocular> everything
[01:16] <FloodBot1> DoctorMonocular: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:16] <DoctorMonocular> but only in the terminal window that I did all the work in
[01:16] <DoctorMonocular> if I try a separate termnal window, it can't find ruby at all
[01:16] <L3top> same applies dzup. Factoid hasnt been updated
[01:16] <L3top> !enter DoctorMonocular
[01:16] <L3top> !enter | DoctorMonocular
[01:16] <floogy> Hi, what's the name of the mint channel?
[01:17] <floogy> I got problems to boot from my pendrivve into mint 13
[01:17] <veinos> i would guess linuxmint
[01:17] <L3top> !mint
[01:18] <floogy> veinos thanks, I'll try that
[01:18] <dzup> L3top: here we go again, tk
[01:18] <DoctorMonocular> L3top, what did that mean? !enter etc?
[01:18] <veinos> ubottu got you covered :)
[01:19] <mun> how come launchpad says libpng 1.2.46-3ubuntu1.3 is available for both amd64 and i386, but my amd64 synaptic says only 1.2.46-3ubuntu1 is the latest?
[01:19] <L3top> Just try to keep responses to a single line if possible... when it is busy it makes it a pain to backscroll several pages for a single users request... it is just because of the size of the channel
[01:19] <DoctorMonocular> ahh, I see -- sorry about that
[01:19] <floogy> I startzed a ubuntu live-cd. oneiric, how to add irc.spotchat.org to empathy (I'm more used to xchat...)
[01:19] <DoctorMonocular> I get it now, you were giving the bot a command -- I didn't realize it was a bot until a ew lines down 8)
[01:20] <L3top> DoctorMonocular: I am not sure to be honest. I would assume that your evnironment variables were somehow defined in one and not the other
[01:22] <lucian> weird: when rhythmbox is on, if i type head anywhere, i hear a loud beep in my headphones
[01:22] <DoctorMonocular> yeah, that somehow is what I need to know about -- where are those settings stored?
[01:23] <floogy> Ah, I found accounts...
[01:23] <L3top> DoctorMonocular: env
[01:25] <DoctorMonocular> L#top, is that a folder somewhere or?
[01:25] <L3top> That will tell you your environment variables... my hack would be to env > rubyterm       and env > normterm    in the same directory in both  terminals, then diff rubyterm normterm
[01:25] <L3top> that will at least tell you if you are barking up the right tree
[01:27] <L3top> they are not stored as such, they are defined... however you can force their definition IF indeed there is a disparity
[01:27] <DoctorMonocular> are those all commands I can actually run? env > normterm outputs to a file called normterm?
[01:27] <L3top> correct
[01:27] <DoctorMonocular> ok, yay linux (powerful and awesome in many ways... not so discoverable)
[01:29] <Auriga> DoctorMonocular, Not so discoverable?
[01:29] <DoctorMonocular> Auriga, "discoverable" is a term we use in user interface design
[01:29] <DoctorMonocular> it's a measure of how well a new user who is not familiar with the system can "discover" how to use it just by poking it or looking at it
[01:30] <Auriga> DoctorMonocular, I hear you, I thought you meant just generally...
[01:30] <Auriga> DoctorMonocular, I was really just picking up half a conversation...
[01:30] <DoctorMonocular> I'm sure they are easy to look up and even examine if you have a certain level of knowledge, but it's that terrible, murky beginning that's rough 8)
[01:31] <DoctorMonocular> ok l3top, there is definitely a difference between the envs
[01:31] <DoctorMonocular> but what do I do about it?
[01:32] <L3top> DoctorMonocular: > is a redirect. >> is a redirect append. you can redirect standard out, error out, standard in to anything. you can also do the reverse < and redirect  in.  You should hang out in #bash  to learn a lot about the power of this fully operational battle station...
[01:32] <L3top> DoctorMonocular: can you please pastebin that diff?
[01:32] <L3top> !pastebin | DoctorMonocular
[01:33] <DoctorMonocular> L3top, yeah the system is clearly very powerful, how you can chain input and output and run the scripts from anywhere
[01:34] <Auriga> DoctorMonocular, Windows could be indepth too, it just depends upon how much you wish to learn.
[01:34] <DoctorMonocular> http://paste.ubuntu.com/996686/
[01:34] <DoctorMonocular> btw, I'm proud of myself for putting 2 and 2 together and >'ing to diffterm to paste that 8)
[01:35]  * L3top really enjoys people learning to USE linux rather than just asking for blind cut and paste commands
[01:36] <oneseventeen> so I removed myself from the sudoers file accidentally, and I'm the only user account.
[01:37] <oneseventeen> thoughts?
[01:37] <newbchessplayer> is there a way to display useful information in a screensaver such as time and weather?
[01:37] <DoctorMonocular> L#top, I'm definitely in that camp -- when I go looking for help (which is often), I'm frustrated when someone provides an esoteric command with no explanation
[01:37] <wolfcore> newbchessplayer: conky
[01:38] <newbchessplayer> conky is a screensaver?
[01:38] <L3top> !conky
[01:38] <L3top> doh.
[01:38] <wolfcore> newbchessplayer: it can be overlayed on top
[01:38] <newbchessplayer> and bounce around?
[01:38] <L3top> I am not aware of conky being a ss... but that is cool
[01:39] <wolfcore> newbchessplayer: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=39906
[01:39] <wolfcore> it's NOT a screensaver, but you can have transparency so that it is on top but the screensaver is visible
[01:40] <newbchessplayer> that  kind of defeats one of the primary purposes of a screensaver
[01:40] <newbchessplayer> thanks
[01:40] <wolfcore> ugh
[01:41] <tynach> Hello. I'm wanting to make a custom launcher on my desktop for Minecraft, but I don't know how to do it in Unity in Ubuntu 12.04. Anyone know how? I don't feel like (but can if I must) creating a .desktop file from scratch by hand.
[01:41] <L3top> no it doesnt
[01:41] <L3top> the screen saver is still running, it is still changing pixles... there is a composit overlay, which changes based on the movement behind it
[01:42] <L3top> it is no different than bubbles over your DT... ty wolfcore.
[01:42] <newbchessplayer> L3top, yes but dont certain pixels always stay lit?
[01:42] <wolfcore> newbchessplayer: stay lit?
[01:42] <L3top> newbchessplayer: they change color based on the background
[01:42] <newbchessplayer> ah
[01:42] <L3top> there is no burn in
[01:42] <wolfcore> it's called transparency for a reason
[01:42] <wolfcore> its _transparent_
[01:43] <trism> tynach: if you have gnome-panel installed you can: gnome-desktop-item-edit /path/to/launcher.desktop; then drag that to the launcher
[01:44] <tynach> trism, I don't have gnome-panel installed. I don't really want to have Gnome 3 installed any more than I have to to let Unity work.
[01:44] <L3top> sorry ok DoctorMonocular, clearly something you did set those paths. Those paths will need to be set each time you want to do what you are doing... those need to either  be defined at startup, which means they will only work on your machine, or defined in the code, or a primer. This is not my area but easily googled if nobody pipes up.
[01:44] <trism> tynach: then you are probably editing the desktop by hand
[01:44] <wolfcore> L3top: what problem does DoctorMonocular have?
[01:45] <L3top> he did something which set env vars which make his ruby code work in a term, but a new term these vars are not set
[01:45] <L3top> here is a diff http://paste.ubuntu.com/996686/
[01:45] <tynach> trism, why can't Unity/Gnome 3 have what KDE and even previous Gnomes had? Right-click a panel or desktop, click "Create launcher", and type in the path to the executable, the name, and change the icon in a nice GUI window?
[01:45] <L3top> that is an env diff wolfcore
[01:46] <wolfcore> L3top: all he has to do is stick that new defined path in ~/.bash_profile
[01:46] <L3top> but then wont the code ONLY work on his box wolfcore?
[01:46] <tynach> Meh, I'll install gnome-panel.
[01:47] <newbchessplayer> L3top, how do you make it transparent to the screensaver but "always behind" any windows while you're actually on the computer?
[01:47] <wolfcore> L3top: so does he want this to work elsewhere?
[01:47] <wolfcore> newbchessplayer: google it
[01:47] <L3top> I don't know to be honest wolfcore... I just assumed.
[01:48] <wolfcore> L3top: PATH aren't made to work universally...
[01:48] <wolfcore> s/PATH aren't/the PATH variable isn't
[01:48] <L3top> True...
[01:48] <DoctorMonocular> L3top, the code should work independently assuming ruby and rails et al is installed and runable on the given machine
[01:48] <aendruk> I've heard rumors of problems with Ubuntu's repositories being slow and causing trouble with the installation process over the last day or so. Anyone know more about it?
[01:49] <DoctorMonocular> ok, so what I need to do is go into my .bash_profile
[01:49] <L3top> DoctorMonocular: check with #ruby at this point.
[01:49] <DoctorMonocular> and add what exactly? there are lots of changes in that diff
[01:50] <tynach> trism, oh! That command does open up a little GUI window :D Though I still have to type in the command. Ah well, this is good for now.
[01:50] <tynach> Thanks!
[01:50] <wolfcore> DoctorMonocular: figure out what PATH, etc you want and export them in .bash_profile
[01:50] <DoctorMonocular> is it a problem if that bash_profile file doesn't exist right now?
[01:50] <DoctorMonocular> ~/.bash_profile didn't exist before I just created it
[01:51] <sirdeiu> tynach: you could also  just copy and modify a .desktop entry file from /usr/share/applications,  where they are kept.
[01:53] <L3top> wolfcore: .bash_profile or .bashrc?
[01:53] <tynach> sirdeiu, that's what I did originally. But they all have a lot of Gnome-specific things in the .desktop file that I didn't know what to do with, and I didn't want any of that in mine.
[01:53] <wolfcore> L3top: PATH goes in .bash_profile, only needs to be sourced on user login
[01:53] <L3top> ty wolfcore
[01:53] <wolfcore> DoctorMonocular: that's fine
[01:54] <L3top> We are all learning DoctorMonocular :)
[01:55] <sirdeiu> tynach: depending on what you want your launcher to do, you'll need more or less some entries. Type, Name, Exec, Path, Icon are the basic needed one(s).
[01:55] <Guest54242> My canonical download speed used to be over 2mbps, but in the last day or so it seems to be capped at 15kbs. Anyone have any advice for fixing this? (Other networks still work just as fast as they used to, just canonical is slow).
[01:56] <tynach> sirdeiu, I gathered, but what about things like... *checks* "X-GNOME-Bugzilla-Component=general"
[01:56] <veinos> yah me too guest!
[01:56] <veinos> grossly slow speed :O
[01:56] <Guest54242> veinos, I wonder if it is a global problem :-/
[01:56] <RupertPupkin> Is it that slow even over Torrent?
[01:56] <sirdeiu> tynach: you don't need that to launch Minecraft :)
[01:57] <veinos> it felt faster just about 20min ago, but not sure, I just let it run in background
[01:57] <veinos> anyway, got to go, gl
[01:58] <tynach> sirdeiu, I know, but there's like... 20 different lines like that, and there are several that contain 'gedit' as the value, making me unsure which one's actually the one to edit for launching. Basically, I like to have a new one created so I know everything I need is in there, and not more. I need to learn to write them by hand.
[01:59] <Guest54242> RupertPupkin: update manage stuff is over torrent? I haven't used any torrents since the install other than what might happen with the default software. But all connected that are "canonical.com" based are avgeraging 15kbs only. It says it is http, so my guess is that is not torrent? Any advice for trying to improve the canonical connection speed?
[01:59] <sirdeiu> tynach: like I said, Type, Name, Icon, Exec, Path are what you need.
[01:59] <RupertPupkin> Guest54242, Sorry, I thought you meant trying to download the .iso file.  Canonical's mirrors occasionally become very slow for me too.
[02:00] <DoctorMonocular> ok wolfcore, I'm having some trouble here -- I'm looking at the diff, and trying to figure out what my bash_profile file should look like -- can you tell me about the syntax I need to use to get it working? and do I need to include all the information that was missing in the non working terminal? Things like GEM_HOME, pvm_path, PATH, GEM_PATH?
[02:00] <tynach> sirdeiu, what about the fact that the generated one from that command, does not have a 'path' in it?
[02:00] <sirdeiu> tynach: of those Exec=/path/to/minecraft/launch, path=/path/to/minecraft, Icon=/path/to/minecraft.png or copy minecraft.png to ~/.icons and specify Icon=minecraft.png only and Name=Minecraft
[02:00] <L3top> Guest54242: there have been a lot of complaints about this. I do not experience it because I use mirrors.
[02:01] <sirdeiu> tynach: what command ?
[02:01] <Guest54242> L3top, please explain or provide a link so I can either set it up as well or at least read about how it works?
[02:01] <tynach> The one trism provided.
[02:01] <tynach> gnome-desktop-item-edit
[02:02] <wolfcore> DoctorMonocular: should look like so (an example): 'export PATH=$PATH:$HOME/bin'
[02:02] <sirdeiu> tynach: see here http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/  .desktop entry specification and http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/apa.html
[02:02] <sirdeiu> example file
[02:02] <wolfcore> DoctorMonocular: not sure if you have to export all of the other variables, you can either do that, or add them one by one and see if they're needed
[02:02] <L3top> Guest54242: its a bit brilliant... and works globally. deb mirror://mirrors.ubuntu.com/mirrors.txt  $DISTRO main restricted universe multiverse for instance...
[02:02] <stal> h
[02:02] <L3top> Guest54242: I will find a link
[02:02] <wolfcore> DoctorMonocular: you probable do need these other vars too though
[02:03] <Guest54242> l3top, thanks!
[02:03] <DoctorMonocular> ok wolfcore, will try to add them with the syntax you mentioned then paste it in before I move on
[02:03] <tynach> sirdeiu, why is it that in mine, it duplicates some lines like: "Name[en_US]=Minecraft", and one without the [en_US]? Can I safely delete the duplicates?
[02:04] <T_A_N_K> windows rulez
[02:04] <sirdeiu> tynach: yes, Name[en_US] or Name[de_DE] are just localized to different languages.
[02:04] <sirdeiu> tynach:  you can use only Name=
[02:05] <sirdeiu> tynach: that is if you are using English as your language.
[02:05] <tynach> sirdeiu, I am. Deleted the [en_US] ones.
[02:05] <wolfcore> tynach: the others are locale-specific, iirc
[02:06] <DoctorMonocular> http://paste.ubuntu.com/996707/
[02:06] <DoctorMonocular> what do you think of that for the content of the file?
[02:06] <wolfcore> DoctorMonocular: you only need to export once
[02:06] <wolfcore> DoctorMonocular: you are overwriting the previous variable
[02:06] <DoctorMonocular> so, at the top, maybe on its own line?
[02:07] <DoctorMonocular> also, I'm confused because PATH is listed twice and like you said, overwrites the previous value
[02:07] <wolfcore> DoctorMonocular: you need export PATH=$PATH:<your custom path/s>
[02:07] <DoctorMonocular> not even considering what it was before the file ran
[02:08] <DoctorMonocular> would it hurt anything to have the same path listed twice in that variable?
[02:08] <wolfcore> DoctorMonocular: you need to define PATH to be PATH plus your own extra paths
[02:08] <lfitz> hi, how would i establish connectivity between two laptops via a crossover cable?
[02:09] <wolfcore> DoctorMonocular: so export PATH=$PATH:$HOME/.rvm/gems/:/another/path
[02:09] <DoctorMonocular> yup, I get it
[02:09] <DoctorMonocular> http://paste.ubuntu.com/996711/
[02:10] <wolfcore> DoctorMonocular: you can replace /home/pete with $HOME
[02:10] <wolfcore> DoctorMonocular: anyways, now you can source the file with `. ~/.bash_profile`
[02:11] <DoctorMonocular> http://paste.ubuntu.com/996714/  - look legit now?
[02:12] <sirdeiu> tynach: here's an interesting one: http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/04/add-application-shortcuts-to-your-desktop-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/
[02:13] <wolfcore> DoctorMonocular: directories such as /usr/local/sbin should be part of your path by default. Check if they are with `echo $PATH`. The directories listed can be removed because they are already part of the PATH
[02:15] <DoctorMonocular> yeah, I figured that was why the variable was defined with a prepended $PATH:
[02:15] <wolfcore> yes
[02:15] <DoctorMonocular> and that's why I was asking if defining the path twice would hurt anything
[02:15] <DoctorMonocular> but I'll remove it in the file
[02:16] <mjbrooks> I hate it when the installer grabs updates at a trickle :(
[02:18] <tynach> sirdeiu, that's actually how I messed with gedit's originally. I already knew about that. But I wanted a custom one for Minecraft.
[02:18] <tynach> Anyway, playing Minecraft now. See 'yall.
[02:19] <DoctorMonocular> ok wolfcore, I saved it, I sourced it - do I need to restart my terminal or anything?
[02:19] <krnl> hi i updated ubuntu to 12.04 and it cant find hosts, but resolv.conf is set properly. do you have any idea?
[02:20] <DoctorMonocular> ok, I opened a new terminal window
[02:21] <DoctorMonocular> which I think should've gotten the new stuff? And none of the stuff from that file are in env
[02:23] <mjbrooks> anyone know if the US ubuntu server is under load? My install updates are measured in B/s :(
[02:23] <wolfcore> DoctorMonocular: after sourcing, the new PATH should work in that term
[02:24] <wolfcore> DoctorMonocular: log out and log back in
[02:24] <elkng> gnome is native GUI for ubuntu ?
[02:24] <wolfcore> elkng: you mean DE?
[02:25] <DoctorMonocular> ok, so when I source in the new window it loads the stuff
[02:25] <flowerpot> elkng, I don't think there is a "native" GUI for Ubuntu, but Gnome is the default
[02:25] <elkng> yes
[02:25] <DoctorMonocular> so I';m guessing thsat if I log out and back in
[02:25] <flowerpot> there are other versions out there
[02:25] <wolfcore> DoctorMonocular: yes, because opening a new window doesn't source you bash_profile
[02:25] <elkng> initially the first DE for ubuntu was gnome ?
[02:25] <DoctorMonocular> it'll work withgout me manually sourcing it everytime. But it's still not quite working
[02:25] <DoctorMonocular> the env is set with the new vars
[02:25] <flowerpot> mjbrooks, I noticed that last night, too, not sure
[02:25] <DoctorMonocular> and when I do ruby -v it's finding the correct one
[02:25] <DoctorMonocular> but rails fails
[02:26] <wolfcore> :(
[02:26] <DoctorMonocular> (sorry, splitting my lines up again, old habits)
[02:26] <mjbrooks> flowerpot: thanks, I was just wondering if it was just me ;)
[02:26] <DoctorMonocular> pete@pete-MS-7522:~/tguard$ ruby -v
[02:26] <DoctorMonocular> ruby 1.9.3p194 (2012-04-20 revision 35410) [x86_64-linux]
[02:26] <DoctorMonocular> pete@pete-MS-7522:~/tguard$ rails c
[02:26] <DoctorMonocular> bash: /usr/local/bin/rails: /usr/bin/ruby1.8: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
[02:26] <DoctorMonocular> er, sorry about that, though that would be one line
[02:27]  * mjbrooks loads his dopeslapper
[02:27] <DoctorMonocular> it seems like it';s still looking for ruby1.8 even though that's not installed at all, and certainly not under rvm
[02:28] <L3top> That looks like your code is making the call not the environment... to me... DoctorMonocular.
[02:28] <wolfcore> DoctorMonocular: is there a space in your PATH by accident?
[02:29] <wolfcore> DoctorMonocular: between rails: /usr
[02:29] <wolfcore> it seems like bash thinks that those two are one path, because there is a space and so the colon isn't used as a separator, but as part of the path
[02:31] <DoctorMonocular> that's a good point, but it's not in the bash_profile file, it must be getting that somewhere else -- where would it get that path from?
[02:32] <phaedrus44> hey all!
[02:32] <wolfcore> DoctorMonocular: so neither of the directories from that error exist?
[02:32] <flowerpot> DoctorMonocular, no basis for this, but maybe something updated /etc/environment?
[02:32] <wilberarch> Just upgraded to 12.04.  USB mouse & keyboard not being recognized...
[02:32] <wilberarch> Dr. Google hasn't found any solutions yet...
[02:32] <wilberarch> :-[
[02:32] <wolfcore> wilberarch: tried rebooting?
[02:33] <wilberarch> wolfcore, about 8 times, yes...
[02:33] <DoctorMonocular> usr/local/bin/rails exists, that other, not
[02:33] <wilberarch> no love with or without KVM...  Screen resolution is off, too...
[02:34] <wilberarch> tried replugging after boot, nada...
[02:34] <flowerpot> have you tried unplugging and then plugging back in your keyboard and mouse?
[02:35] <wolfcore> DoctorMonocular: I think the problem is that rails is trying to use ruby 1.8, which isn't on your system
[02:36] <DoctorMonocular> remember though, everything including rails works perfectly in the term that I used to install rvm and ruby and rails and etc in, but not in any other windows
[02:36] <DoctorMonocular> so somwhow THAT rails knows to use rvm ruby, while the others are trying to look for 1.8
[02:37] <sirdeiu> DoctorMonocular: try running source ~/.rvm/scripts/rvm in another terminal then you rails app.
[02:37] <wolfcore> DoctorMonocular: have you logged out and back in??
[02:37] <DoctorMonocular> good idea, but no change
[02:38] <wolfcore> DoctorMonocular: ^^
[02:38] <DoctorMonocular> hah, I've been avoiding it because then I'll lose my only working window 8( But ok, back in a sec
[02:40] <DoctorMonocular> ok, I logged out and back in
[02:40] <DoctorMonocular> it did not source the bash_profile
[02:40] <DoctorMonocular> if I do ruby -v before sourcing
[02:41] <DoctorMonocular> it says NOPE, but if I source, it reports 1.9.3 -- rails still won't run though
[02:41] <wolfcore> DoctorMonocular: so the problem now is that bash_profile is not being sourced by new terms?
[02:41] <DoctorMonocular> yessir
[02:41] <wolfcore> did you _actually_ log out?
[02:42] <wolfcore> as in, had to reenter your password, etc
[02:42] <DoctorMonocular> yes, I did
[02:43] <DoctorMonocular> I logged out, it shut all my programs down
[02:43] <wolfcore> hm, thinking
[02:43] <DoctorMonocular> I had to put my password back in
[02:45] <Mylesmadness> are the ubuntu repos slow for everyone?
[02:45] <DoctorMonocular> they are fine for me, but someone else was in here talking about them being slow right now, so I guess so
[02:46] <root_> what is the command i use in the terminal to bring up startup manager?
[02:46] <DoctorMonocular> wolfcore, it's supposed to be '~/.bash_profile' right?
[02:46] <wolfcore> DoctorMonocular: yeah
[02:46] <root_> to bring back the gnome fallback panel
[02:47] <DoctorMonocular> ok, that's right, I was just double checking
[02:47] <wilberarch> Anyone experience the "USB keyboard & mouse not recognized following upgrade to 12.04" issue...?
[02:48] <DoctorMonocular> wilberarch, 12.04 bricked my whole system, I had to wipe and install 11.10 again
[02:48] <wilberarch> DoctorMonocular, yikes.  swell....
[02:48] <holocronweaver> Sorry if this has already been asked, but anyone else in the U.S. experiencing really slow Ubuntu software server speeds?  Even apt-get update is wretchedly slow for me on all my machines.
[02:49] <Mylesmadness> I'm having issues
[02:49] <wilberarch> DoctorMonocular, so much for "Wonder what 12.04 is like?  Maybe I'll upgrade and see..."
[02:49] <Mylesmadness> from multiple location in the US
[02:50] <remlabm> having an issue where nvidia card is only displaying low resolutions, i went into additional hardware and the Nvidia drivers i suually use say "they are broken". any ideas how to fix?
[02:51] <holocronweaver> Mylesmadness, thanks.  I am in the middle of setting up my Ubuntu server and need to download about 300 MB of software, not to mention sys updates.  I guess it will have to wait for tomorrow unless I can find a decent mirror. :-/
[02:51] <DoctorMonocular> ok guys, wolfcore and L3top, I REALLY appreciate all your help and advice, I wouldn't have made it this far without you, but I've been at it all day and it's getting late, so I'm going to go wind down with the woman and take a crack at it tomorrow. Maybe I'll see you here 8)
[02:52] <DoctorMonocular> Thanks again, for EVERYTHING
[02:52] <DoctorMonocular> you guys rock my face off
[02:52] <plustax> hey guys I have a rather dumb and noobish question for you.
[02:53] <L3top> Night!
[02:53] <plustax> I have an asus x54c laptop and I just bought 4gigs stick of memory for it. Seemed to click in nicely but I boot up and its still showing only 4 instead of the 8
[02:53] <plustax> Any ideas?
[02:54] <RupertPupkin> plustax, If you're running a 32-bit kernel, then only up to 4GB maybe supported.  You need a 64 bit machine to experience more than that.
[02:54] <plustax> I asked this in the wrong place im running win7
[02:54] <plustax> but it IS a 64 bit system
[02:54] <bazhang> plustax, ##windows
[02:55] <plustax> yep im in there
[02:55] <plustax> wrong window, sorry. But if you have any ideas, feel free to help haha
[02:55] <bazhang> plustax, so dont ask here, its not supported
[02:55] <plustax> It was an accident, white knight.
[02:55] <DaZ> <:
[03:08] <ZenGuy311> i'm using filezilla trying to connect to a ssh server on my windowsd pc .. i keep getting this: Response:	SSH-2.0-WeOnlyDo 2.1.3
[03:09] <GINGERNIPS> I want to install ubuntu desktop 12.04 but I already have 11.04
[03:09] <GINGERNIPS> but i also have windows running
[03:10] <GINGERNIPS> can i delete the partitions while installing the 12.04?
[03:10] <ZenGuy311> GINGERNIPS:  do you want to wipe the 11.04 install?
[03:10] <ZenGuy311> yes you can wipe the entire disk to install 12.04 .. be sue to backup to an external drive though
[03:11] <GINGERNIPS> well ZenGuy311 i dont wanna get rid of my windows
[03:11] <GINGERNIPS> and i dont have the windows key anymore
[03:11] <GINGERNIPS> so
[03:11] <GINGERNIPS> thats not an option
[03:12] <Hetep> hola, am needing help with the 12.04 upgrade. am getting an error for mismatched size
[03:12] <ZenGuy311> GINGERNIPS:  you can delete the 11.04 partition but you'll have to be sure that that you have the correct partition selected for deletion
[03:13] <sabrehagen> hi, i'm trying to install some themes, but I don't know which are compatible with Ubuntu 12.04. Can somebody tell me if I can use this theme with a stock installation of 12.04? http://customize.org/gtk/themes/57358
[03:13] <GINGERNIPS> yeah ZenGuy311 thats what im doing right now
[03:13] <porwah> hello... anyone out there able to help with a mounting a Windows share?
[03:14] <sabrehagen> porwah: is it ntfs?
[03:14] <porwah> yes
[03:14] <porwah> I can get readonly access
[03:14] <porwah> can't write to it for some reason
[03:14] <porwah> I'm just using mount
[03:14] <sabrehagen> porwah: i can give you my fstab mount line, but i can't explain it to you. i'm no expert...
[03:14] <GINGERNIPS> ZenGuy311 it says no root file system is defined
[03:14] <porwah> not editing fstab or anything
[03:14] <ZenGuy311> GINGERNIPS:  ok  you can delete the install 12.04 over 11.04 while retaining the windows partition for dual boot
[03:15] <GINGERNIPS> how
[03:15] <ZenGuy311> GINGERNIPS:  are you as the custom disk partition setting?
[03:15] <sabrehagen> porwah: sorry, no can do then...
[03:15] <GINGERNIPS> yeah
[03:16] <ZenGuy311> GINGERNIPS:  you're suppose to put " / " as the root partition .. pleaae be sure windows is not selected
[03:16] <GINGERNIPS> yeah ZenGuy311
[03:16] <sabrehagen> porwah: i'd recommend this page though: http://customize.org/gtk/themes/57358
[03:16] <porwah> thanks sabrehagen
[03:16] <sabrehagen> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[03:16] <sabrehagen> that page, not the one before :P
[03:16] <GINGERNIPS> what do you mean ZenGuy311?
[03:16] <porwah> ha
[03:16] <Hetep> can a person help with a 12.04 upgrade from 11.10? am getting a size mismatch error during the upgrade process
[03:17] <ZenGuy311> GINGERNIPS:  file system is suppose to be ext4
[03:17] <porwah> sabrehagen: thanks!
[03:17] <porwah> looks like a great page
[03:17] <porwah> I was following instructions on a few other pages.
[03:17] <porwah> Looks really straightfoward
[03:18] <GINGERNIPS> ZenGuy311 is there any type of guide for this? or something
[03:18] <Psi-Jack> Anyone, other than myself, that uses Google Chrome with Java that's had any issues with Java causing Chrome to crash since the recent update in 12.04?
[03:18] <sabrehagen> porwah: yep, the ubuntu documentation is pretty straight forward and covers all your options
[03:18] <GINGERNIPS> oh ZenGuy311 i see what youre saying but how do i edit it
[03:18] <ZenGuy311> askubuntu.com/questions/135705/ubuntu-12-04-installation-error-no-root-file-system-is-defined  GINGERNIPS
[03:21] <mjbrooks> 2 hours reamining to install... wow, color me unimpressed
[03:22] <taqui> Hi
[03:22] <ZenGuy311> mjbrooks:  sounds like you're upgrading
[03:22] <taqui> hello any body is heree
[03:22] <ZenGuy311> taqui:  what's up
[03:23] <taqui> just chilling
[03:23] <taqui> any good pointers for programming
[03:23] <mjbrooks> ZenGuy311: I'm atually installing 100% fresh and I tole it not to download the latest updates during the install (figured I'd do those froma  faster mirroer later)
[03:24] <mjbrooks> s/tole/told/
[03:24] <ZenGuy311> i'm not a programmer but http://www.codeacademy.com seems to the rave these days
[03:25] <mjbrooks> taqui: it also all depends on what you are programming
[03:25] <ZenGuy311> mjbrooks:  whats your system specs?
[03:25] <mjbrooks> ZenGuy311: i7 12G of RAM... it's a fast beast
[03:26] <taqui> dual core 3g of ram
[03:26] <mjbrooks> ZenGuy311: for whatever reason, my download from the US ubuntu server is a trickle
[03:26] <ZenGuy311> mjbrooks:  damn thats fast! i'm using a netbook right now and the most powerful desktop i have has a cpu that is 5 years old
[03:26] <aed> mjbrooks, try the torrent
[03:27] <mjbrooks> aed: ummm, this is the actual installation
[03:27] <aed> oh
[03:27] <mjbrooks> heh
[03:27] <taqui> Sorry with boring msgs, I like to program something innovative
[03:27] <T_A_N_K> wub wub wub
[03:27] <mjbrooks> Downloading Language pasks at 17.7 KB/s   yay
[03:28] <mjbrooks> taqui: in what language?
[03:28] <GINGERNIPS> ZenGuy311 can i just install 12.04 along 11.04 than go back and just delete the partions for 12
[03:28] <taqui> .net, java, php
[03:29] <GINGERNIPS> so that way i dont have to fuck with my windows cd and all that
[03:29] <ZenGuy311> GINGERNIPS:  if you have enough free unallocated space you can install 12.04 and do that
[03:31] <GINGERNIPS> well i cant edit these partions for some reason
[03:31] <GINGERNIPS> under the advance menu
[03:31] <mjbrooks> taqui: you probably won't get much advice on .net here ;) My suggestion for java is to avoid it, turns out Oracle wants to own it all and force you to pay them a license... at least that's the feeling I get
[03:32] <bazhang> taqui use alis to search for a channel and ask there
[03:32] <bazhang> !alis | taqui
[03:32] <reflexrg> if I install ubuntu with encrypted home which is separate partition and then next release comes out can I install ubuntu and still be able to access my home partition again as encrypted?
[03:32] <bazhang> GINGERNIPS, no cursing here
[03:32] <reflexrg> same password
[03:33] <bazhang> GINGERNIPS, your partitions are mounted?
[03:33] <taqui> Thanks all
[03:33] <GINGERNIPS> i guess?
[03:33] <bazhang> GINGERNIPS, so you cannot edit them. boot from a livecd if you wish to do that sort of thing
[03:34] <GINGERNIPS> well im just gunna set the 12.04 to 4.5 gigs
[03:34] <GINGERNIPS> than go back
[03:34] <GINGERNIPS> and delete the 11.04 partitions
[03:34] <GINGERNIPS> so i dont have to mess with the windows cd
[03:34] <bazhang> GINGERNIPS, you still cannot do it on a mounted drive
[03:34] <GINGERNIPS> why not
[03:34] <mjbrooks> because you can't
[03:34] <bazhang> GINGERNIPS, dont use the enter key every two words
[03:35] <GINGERNIPS> well, how do i fix it?
[03:35] <bazhang> GINGERNIPS, I told you already
[03:35] <GINGERNIPS> i dont have a windows cd tho
[03:36] <bazhang> GINGERNIPS, you're not listening
[03:36] <GINGERNIPS> i just dont understand lol
[03:36] <GINGERNIPS> could you link me to something i could read?
[03:37] <bazhang> GINGERNIPS, you wish to delete a partition that you have mounted and possibly in use.
[03:38] <bazhang> GINGERNIPS, think about why that is not going to work.  USE a live cd to do any sort of operation like that
[03:38] <GINGERNIPS> isnt the usb the same as a live cd?
[03:38] <OerHeks> sure
[03:38] <GINGERNIPS> thats what im using
[03:40] <mjbrooks> GINGERNIPS: are you trying to resize the partions on the usb that you are using?
[03:40] <CuriousCat> i have a gaming mouse, i use xinput to set velocity scaling=1.0; what is the best way to do this automatically everytime i boot
[03:41] <Igmu_> Can I get help installing Edubuntu 12.04 from USB? Bootloader starts Edubuntu from USB, but it can't find image. It's looking in /cdrom but no image exists. How can I change it to see the image on USB?
[03:41] <GINGERNIPS> i got it figured out mjbrooks
[03:42] <CuriousCat> where does ubuntu 12.04 get the default xinput values from?
[03:44] <CuriousCat> .xsession.rc?
[03:44] <genii-around> maybe  /etc/X11/XF86Config
[03:44] <taqui> hey guys help me to join a group after searching it
[03:45] <mjbrooks> If I tell the installer not to download updates during the initial installation it shouldn't download a bunch of libreoffice packages... grrr
[03:45] <mjbrooks> taqui: if the name of the group is #foo, just type '/j #foo' (without the quotes)
[03:46] <taqui> mjbrooks: thank you very much
[03:48] <ghostconn> i witnessed someone today running ubuntu 12:04 with a animated wallpaper background, I'm just currious how is this possible ? anyone have an idea?
[03:49] <tamir> ?help
[03:50] <genii-around> ghostconn: Conceivably with an animated gif
[03:50] <ghostconn> so ubuntu will let me add any gif as a background image?
[03:51] <ghostconn> thats awesome lol
[03:52] <MaisonNotarathed> what is the way to manually update via the terminal?
[03:53] <LordOfTime> MaisonNotarathed:  sudo apt-get update
[03:53] <LordOfTime> MaisonNotarathed:  and then sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:53] <MaisonNotarathed> gracias LOT
[03:53] <zykotick9> MaisonNotarathed: if you want to update everything (ie. full-upgrade) "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[03:54] <Igmu_> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, I think
[03:54] <wendico> hello, is there a software in the repository to record a part of my screen to make a tutorial?
[03:54] <MaisonNotarathed> what does a apt-get update distinctly accomplish?
[03:54] <Igmu_> then sudo apt-get update
[03:54] <Igmu_> then sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:55] <zykotick9> MaisonNotarathed: updates your local apt database
[03:55] <Logan_> MaisonNotarathed: It updates your local package lists from the repositories in your sources.list.
[03:55] <MaisonNotarathed> wendico, push the prt scrn button
[03:55] <Igmu_> then sudo apt-get update reloads from repositories
[03:55] <wendico> hehe, yes but id like to make a video of multiple steps
[03:55] <wylde> !find screencast | wendico
[03:55] <MaisonNotarathed> aha. there were repository problems am fairly certain. getting errors from Synaptic
[03:56] <wendico> ty
[03:56] <wylde> wendico: or you could 'apt-cache search screencast'
[03:56] <wylde> :)
[03:58] <clock_cycles> What font do I need for fidelity.com?
[03:59] <Logan_> clock_cycles: Where specifically?
[03:59] <Logan_> The main body text appears to have the CSS font-family of Arial,Tahoma,Verdana,Helvetica,sans-serif.
[04:00] <clock_cycles> Logan_: I thought I got the truetype fonts from Ubuntu Software Center.
[04:01] <Logan_> Are you not getting any text at all?
[04:02] <clock_cycles> Logan_: I looks fine, but the research tab wraps around.
[04:02] <Logan_> Which browser?
[04:02] <clock_cycles> Logan_: Firefox
[04:02] <Logan_> Looks fine to me in Chromium.
[04:02] <Logan_> Not happening for me in Firefox either.
[04:03] <digitalj> is the ubuntu us repos download extremely slow for anything else?
[04:03] <clock_cycles> Logan_: I was on Debian and I had to get some fonts.  Now with Ubuntu, it's not fixed.
[04:03] <wendico> there are many softwares to screencast, how nice. would you recomend me one with the most functions to make nice tutorials? (maybe one wich would let me live zoom the screen, add caption test and hyperlinks, live voice recording, automatically saves the result into compresed  video for web...). So i dont need to test them all
[04:03] <Logan_> digitalj: Torrent it.
[04:06] <wylde> wendico: I've never used one. Each package should have some info available about. Some likley even a homepage. I usually start with package homepages to get more info about features and whatnot.
[04:06] <digitalj> Logan_, torrent what?
[04:06] <digitalj> Not the Ubuntu install image, but downloading packages from repos
[04:06] <wendico> thank u for the tip, i will just google the found packages
[04:06] <Logan_> digitalj: Oh, right.
[04:07] <digitalj> I can wget the latest kernel from kernel.org at nearly 3.0MB/s, I'm getting like 20KB/s from the US ubuntu repository
[04:07] <Ted_> hi, I was hoping I could ask what seems like a pretty simple question…  I've successfully created a live USB to boot from on my Intel MacbookPro, but I wanted to find out if there was any way for me to actually install ubuntu on this stick - It's 16 gb, and it's currently formatted FAT using diskutility on my mac.  Every time I've tried, I've gotten various errors - I just want to be able to...
[04:07] <Ted_> ...load the drive using ReFit and boot it as if it was an internal partition, thanks
[04:08] <Ted_> (Tried asking in beginners, because I definitely am, but didn't get any response)
[04:08] <wylde> Ted_: you can install on the media you're booted from.
[04:09] <wylde> can't
[04:09] <mjbrooks> digitalj: yes, it is sloooowwww
[04:09] <Ted_> That's what I thought - however, I've also made a live CD - so if I booted from the CD, would I be able to successfully install on the usb?
[04:09] <GINGERNIPS> ive installed 12.04 and restarted my computer. I already had 11.04 but i just did installed 12.04 along side that and windows vista. I know only have the option to boot to vista and 11.04. I can see the three seperate partitions
[04:09] <wylde> Ted_: yep that should work. Although I can't speak to how well it will work.
[04:10] <wylde> Ted_: Just be VERY careful when partitioning to make sure you have the right media/drive selected.
[04:11] <Ted_> I have everything backed up - I'm pretty much expecting to accidentally format my HD
[04:11] <smw> Ted_, good idea, I did that to myself last week
[04:12] <mjbrooks> digitalj: I had tried starting over and setting a different mirror, but the installer insisted on automatically switching to the us server for the intial install
[04:12] <Bongo> looking for some support :D installed ubuntu from a live USB and it wont boot.
[04:12] <smw> Bongo, won't boot?
[04:12] <Bongo> yeah it just sits at a black screen with the text box blinking in the corner
[04:13] <Ted_> smw_ if I'm installing on a blank USB, what steps should I take once I start the installer from the CD - I know I need to make a 1gb swap partition, but I don't know what format, or how to do that exactly
[04:13] <Bongo> ive tried rebooting from my live usb and that also wont boot
[04:13] <ex0> swap
[04:13] <ex0> is the format
[04:13] <wylde> Ted_: lol, alright. Better to expect the worst than be surprised by it. :)
[04:13] <mjbrooks> Bongo: tried unpluggin the USB and booting without it in?
[04:14] <smw> Ted_, "swap" is a format type
[04:14] <Igmu> I used downloaded program from pendrivelinux.com to load Edubuntu 12.04 on my USB thumb drive. I booted from my USB drive. Edubuntu splash screen loads. I press CTR-ALT-TAB to see details. It says it's looking for files in /cdrom, but it can't find those files. Do I have to change this to something else?
[04:14] <Bongo> yes still doesnt work
[04:14] <Ted_> that makes a great deal more sense
[04:14] <smw> Ted_, you also need a partition for your root (called "/")
[04:14] <smw> Ted_, I suggest you format as ext4
[04:15] <smw> Ted_, and if you want, what I normally do is give 50GB to the root and the rest to /home
[04:15] <Ted_> and how exactly should I do that?  the guide from "https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MactelSupportTeam/AppleIntelInstallation" says to use gparted
[04:15] <smw> Ted_, with swap getting twice my ram
[04:15] <smw> Ted_, you are installing on a mac?
[04:16] <Ted_> I'm installing on a usb
[04:16] <Ted_> 16 gb
[04:16] <Ted_> I need to be able to boot it on multiple computers
[04:16] <wendico> im short in ram memory, is it posible to speed up my ubuntu with a usb stick as windows does?
[04:16] <Bongo> anybody help me? installed ubuntu and it wont boot! also wont boot from the live usb anymore either
[04:16] <smw> wendico, adding a usb stick will not speed it up
[04:17] <smw> wendico, not sure how it would speed up windows either...
[04:17] <mjbrooks> i agree smw
[04:18] <digitalj> Fetched 19.2 MB in 16min 0s (20.0 kB/s)
[04:18] <wendico> smw: it dows by swaping small files to the flash instead of ram memory to free it
[04:18] <digitalj> So fricking slow wtf
[04:18] <mjbrooks> digitalj: I'll race you  ;)
[04:18] <smw> wendico, and that would be incredibly slow
[04:18] <Igmu> It looks like many are having the same booting from USB thumb drive problem?
[04:18] <smw> wendico, swapping things to disk makes things slower, not faster
[04:19] <mjbrooks> 901:00 remaing
[04:19] <smw> wendico, swapping to a usb drive would be insanely slow compared to swapping to disk
[04:19] <wendico> smw:we are talking about a full ram enviroment
[04:19] <wendico> smw:i mean, not free ram enviroment
[04:20] <smw> wendico, in that case I would use swap on a hard drive, not usb
[04:20] <Ted_> I'm successfully able to boot from my live usb, but I want to have a full install on the usb so what I do will be saved
[04:20] <smw> wendico, or buy more ram
[04:20] <smw> Ted_, so do it :-)
[04:20] <wendico> smw: lol, BUY is not a solution hehe
[04:21] <smw> wendico, I always keep 2x ram as swap space
[04:21] <smw> wendico, usb swap would be slower than hard drive swap
[04:21] <Ted_> I will now try, and report back when/if I fail. :)
[04:21] <smw> Ted_, make a partition mounted at / that is ext4 and takes up the entire drive
[04:22] <Ted_> that's exactly what I will try to do
[04:22] <smw> Ted_, (a GB of swap is not very useful)
[04:22] <Ted_> thanks so much for all the help everyone
[04:22] <Ted_> oh really?
[04:22] <smw> Ted_, unless you plan to run this on machine with very little ram
[04:22] <Ted_> no, I have 4 gb ram
[04:22] <digitalj> I know a way around this...
[04:22] <smw> Ted_, swap only matters when you run out of ram
[04:23] <wendico> smw: true for the real meaning of "swaping" but not in practise, in some escenarios, swaping to flash can be faster, thats what ReadyBoost is all about. Is there something similar for my ubuntu?
[04:23] <Ted_> I just said 1 gb because that's what the ubuntu website recommended
[04:23] <smw> Ted_, and it reduces the life of your flash drive
[04:23] <Ted_> I see
[04:23] <Ted_> so you're saying no swap necessary?
[04:23] <Ted_> just partition the entire drive at /?
[04:23] <smw> Ted_, not unless your machine has under a GB of ram
[04:23] <smw> Ted_, that is what I would do
[04:23] <Ted_> alright, good to know - thanks so much
[04:24] <smw> Ted_, actually, less than 2GB I would use swap :-)
[04:24] <Ted_> well, either way - I have 4 :)
[04:24] <smw> wendico, you can swap to any disk
[04:25] <smw> wendico, just make a swap partition and swapon
[04:25] <wendico> smw, i see, but that, as you say, will be slower. better swap to hard disk unless i can "smart swap"
[04:25] <shape> Hello, I just installed Ubuntu and Thunderbird won't let me add any accounts. It says: "Thunderbird failed to find the settings for your email account". And the client works on my other computer for my email address. (gmail)
[04:26] <smw> wendico, I have no idea what smart swap is
[04:26] <chip8874> Is anyone using a xfx radeon HD 6790 per chance?
[04:27] <smw> wendico, truthfully, in a total ram used environment, I would just install a light desktop environment and have swap on disk
[04:27] <GINGERNIPS> im trying to set up 12.04 using advance partitioning and i keep getting the error "no root file system is defined"
[04:27] <smw> wendico, I have no idea what smart swapping is
[04:27] <mjbrooks> digitalj: are we racing?
[04:27] <shape> GINGERNIPS, on the partition you want Ubuntu to be on, where it says mount point put the symbol "/"
[04:27] <wendico> smw, yes smw, i will have to give up my ubuntu and install something lighter
[04:27] <smw> GINGERNIPS, one of your partitions must be set to be mounted at /
[04:28] <L3top> !info nvidia-current-updates
[04:28] <digitalj> mjbrooks, no
[04:28] <digitalj> i already won :)
[04:28] <GINGERNIPS> do i need a ext 3 and 4?
[04:28] <wendico> hate to be poor :)
[04:28] <windbuntu> it will default to ext 4 GINGERNIPS
[04:28] <smw> GINGERNIPS, I suggest ext4 for everything
[04:29] <shape> GINGERNIPS, and you will also need a swap partition. So just 2 partitions.
[04:29] <Igmu> Do I change /boot/grub/loopback.cfg Which displays as...
[04:29] <Igmu> menuentry "Try Edubuntu without installing" {
[04:30] <L3top> can someone explain how the info factoid works? because that is inaccurate. 295.49-0ubuntu0.1 0  is apt-cache policy
[04:30] <smw> GINGERNIPS, what I normally do is devote 50GB to /, a couple GB to swap, and the rest to /home ()
[04:30] <smw> GINGERNIPS, that of course may not be possible with how much space you have
[04:30] <Igmu> to something like ... file=/USB/preseed...?
[04:31] <L3top> ikonia? Are you afoot?
[04:31] <GINGERNIPS> i have enough space
[04:31] <GINGERNIPS> i left 3gigs to swap
[04:32] <shape> GINGERNIPS, and it's installing now correct?
[04:32] <GINGERNIPS> yeah
[04:34] <GINGERNIPS> well I already had 11.04 but i just did installed 12.04 along side that and windows vista and i only have the option to boot to vista and 11.04. So now im reinstalling 12.04. I deleted both of first 12.04 partition and the 11.04 parition.
[04:34] <GINGERNIPS> and made the new 12.04 partition with 3g of free space
[04:35] <smw> GINGERNIPS, heh, you are doing the exact same thing I did yesterday
[04:36] <smw> GINGERNIPS, I installed 12.04 on some spare unpartitioned space so I could move over slowly
[04:36] <wylde> woo ban spam :P
[04:36] <smw> GINGERNIPS, before I hate 11.04 (the one before they got rid of gnome 2)
[04:36] <smw> had*
[04:36] <shape> Hello, I just installed Ubuntu, and in Thunderbird, I get the error "Thunderbird failed to find the settings for your email account." - I am doing this for gmail and yahoo. And yet on my other computer Thunderbird finds these automatically. Can anyone please help me?
[04:37] <smw> GINGERNIPS, so now I have 11.04, 12.04, and win7 on my computer :-)
[04:46] <wendico> there is not zoom desktop by default anymore? how to zoom now?
[04:47] <GINGERNIPS> yeah smw 11.04 wasnt that great i legit used it only for one specific thing i wanted to use it all the time but it was just tooooo much effort
[04:48] <GINGERNIPS> i remember it took me like a hour to install my headset, given it was my first time on linux
[04:48] <GINGERNIPS> but still
[04:49] <Darkenvy> I upgraded because at this time I cannot fresh install. I have now been getting freezes a lot. odd freezes. no curser, no TTY and screen freezes but G15 LCD clock and skype continue not frozen
[04:50] <Darkenvy> Where is the log I should be looking for to figure out whats happening?
[04:52] <alusion> Where are tomboy notes saved?
[05:01] <Logan_> digitalj: Oh, jeez, you're right.
[05:01] <Logan_> It's taking forever.
[05:01] <digitalj> I used the GUI for the package manager on my desktop to get the fastest server
[05:01] <digitalj> and changed my /etc/apt/sources.list file
[05:01] <digitalj> now its fixed :)
[05:01] <Logan_> There must be something up with the server.
[05:01] <Logan_> I hope it's not getting DDOSed.
[05:02] <surt> Hi. I'm stuck at boot. lightdm won't start and I get the following errors: "mountall: Plymouth command failed", "mountall: Disconnected from Plymouth", then "[sdb] Asking for cache data failed" and "[sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through" every minute.
[05:02] <Ted_> so - I'm back, turns out the install CD I made didn't work - I'm trying to create the CD using apple disk utility.  Every time I try to mount the iso to be burned, I get an error that says "no mountable file systems"
[05:03] <Ted_> it still looks as if it's mounted properly, and burns successfully when selected, but then it doesn't show up in ReFit
[05:03] <Ted_> any thoughts?
[05:08] <flowerpot> apt-get update is downloading at like 20 kB/s.  Is something off with the Canonical servers...?
[05:09] <surt> flowerpot: Not relevant, but google something called apt-fast...multhreaded apt-get.
[05:09] <Ted_> any help on the no mountable file systems error when trying to create a live cd?
[05:10] <flowerpot> surt, thanks
[05:15] <dr0id> meh, what is the command to extract tar inside a specific folder ?
[05:15] <dr0id> tar -xzf foo.tar.gz foo/bar doesn't seem to work :/ throws errors
[05:17] <ganador> hola
[05:18] <by___arg_subzero> hola
[05:19] <BlackWeb> Has anyone played around with gnome-panel in 12.04, I'm trying to move the panel and its not allowing me to do so
[05:19] <carlos_eduardo> hey, could somebody help me in C?
[05:20] <surt> Alright f*** it I can't find help for my issue, there's nowhere else to look. If I re-install *buntu without formatting are all my settings still going to be there?
[05:20] <ChipreEpicuros> guys hello!! i also need some help.
[05:20] <BlackWeb> surt save your config files
[05:21] <BlackWeb> whats your problem your having
[05:21] <BlackWeb> I'll try to help
[05:21] <q0_0p> Ubuntu is on android phones now?
[05:21] <q0_0p> http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android
[05:22] <surt> BlackWeb: I can't get xorg/lightdm to start. I get four errors, two reoccurring.
[05:22] <surt> BlackWeb: "mountall: Plymouth command failed", "mountall: Disconnected from Plymouth", then "[sdb] Asking for cache data failed" and "[sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through" every minute.
[05:22] <ChipreEpicuros> my computer stops responding for a few seconds and then starts responding again
[05:22] <ChipreEpicuros> right now it froze and came back within a few seconds
[05:22] <ChipreEpicuros> it's very annoying
[05:22] <ChipreEpicuros> is there something i could download to check my hardware?
[05:22] <ChipreEpicuros> and see what the problem might be/
[05:22] <ChipreEpicuros> ?
[05:23] <surt> BlackWeb: sdb does not exist on my netbook. There's only one drive, and only one listed in fstab.
[05:24] <ChipreEpicuros> and again.....
[05:24] <ChipreEpicuros> jeeez
[05:24] <K`zan> Err, I hope I am wrong here, but I just downloaded and tried 64bit ubu and it has problems.  Best screen I can get is 1024x768 and no access to Nvidia drivers.  Did I miss something or is ubu64 bit that braindead?
[05:25] <18WAAZFYZ> hello my notebook doesn't turn off after hibernate what should I do?
[05:25] <BlackWeb> surt havent seen that before,, have you tired uninstalling mountall
[05:25] <BlackWeb> is what my first guess would be
[05:25] <___fede____> hola
[05:25] <BlackWeb> I'd remove mountall then try it again
[05:26] <surt> BlackWeb: Sounds like a recipe for disaster...but I guess I have nothing to lose
[05:26] <___fede____> alguien habla spanish
[05:26] <BlackWeb> ya sorry couldn't be of more help
[05:26] <18WAAZFYZ> how can I make ubuntu turn off after a hibernate?
[05:26] <TomatoKetchup> K`zan, when booting from the live cd do you experience that?
[05:26] <ChipreEpicuros> guys? any1? any software i could download to check if all my hardware is functioning correctly?
[05:28] <surt> BlackWeb: Removing mountall would effectively disable the entire system.
[05:28] <diddy> just finished installing ubuntu woot... this sh*z is awesome
[05:28] <__f-e-d-e__> hola
[05:28] <hampsterblade> Ok so ubuntu upfated ealier and now networking is broken. What should i do?
[05:29] <hampsterblade> Sorry for typos typing on my phone
[05:29] <ChipreEpicuros> guys? :)
[05:29] <__f-e-d-e__> phome
[05:29] <hampsterblade> It has to be either due to the update or the iinstallation of wine 1.5
[05:30] <hampsterblade> But I'm at a loss.
[05:30] <K`zan> TomatoKetchup: Yes, the Live CD.
[05:31] <flowerpot> hampsterblade, what errors are you receiving, if any?
[05:32] <hampsterblade> Iy just gives network errors at boot don't know how to view the actual errors
[05:32] <TomatoKetchup> ChipreEpicuros, how much ram do you have?
[05:32] <ChipreEpicuros> 4 gigs
[05:32] <ChipreEpicuros> but it is very weird. it was working fine till the day b4 yesterday
[05:32] <TomatoKetchup> hrm
[05:32] <ChipreEpicuros> no problems what so ever
[05:32] <ChipreEpicuros> haven't installed anything new....
[05:32] <diddy403> quick question, how is the "Ubuntu Software Center" different from Apt-Get ?
[05:33] <hampsterblade> Its just a front end for apt-gey
[05:33] <TomatoKetchup> strange indeed, I'm not sure what could be causing that
[05:33] <diddy403> ok, so I can still do the old "sudo apt-get install xxxx" and it'll work just fine
[05:33] <diddy403> ?
[05:33] <ChipreEpicuros> like right now it did it again. it becomes unresponsive for a few seconds and then comes back to life
[05:34] <ChipreEpicuros> i was wondering. is there something that i could check my h/w with?
[05:34] <Mr__> anyone else getting this when trying to install ubuntustudio audio
[05:34] <newgod> what
[05:34] <Mr__> ubuntustudio-audio:
[05:34] <Mr__>  Depends: ubuntustudio-generation but it is not going to be installed
[05:34] <Mr__>  Depends: ubuntustudio-recording but it is not going to be installed
[05:34] <TomatoKetchup> K`zan, what video card do you have?  I'm using a gtx460 and it worked out of the box at full resolution live cd / installed
[05:34] <FloodBot1> Mr__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:34] <diddy403> Chip, do a quick ping -t to google.com or something and watch for packet loss
[05:34] <hampsterblade> I just did on an strace on service networking start anf its giving resource temporarily unavailable
[05:35] <TomatoKetchup> diddy403, his system is freezing, what is pinging google going to do?
[05:35] <TomatoKetchup> unless I am misunderstanding
[05:36] <TomatoKetchup> ChipreEpicuros, what video drives are you using?
[05:36] <ChipreEpicuros> Not a ping related issues.
[05:37] <ChipreEpicuros> i don't really know
[05:37] <TomatoKetchup> well what card do you have in there?
[05:37] <ChipreEpicuros> an nvidia
[05:37] <diddy403> Tomato, sorry I thought he meant his network was freezing and wanted a way to verify... ping would show loss of packets
[05:38] <TomatoKetchup> diddy403, nah, system ;)
[05:38] <TomatoKetchup> ChipreEpicuros, have you activated the proprietary drivers?
[05:38] <hampsterblade> His system is freezing and my network wont connect
[05:39] <ChipreEpicuros> yes.but it blows that my system worked just fine till a couple of days ago
[05:39] <szerzetes> hi! I have a problem with my RTK (noname) DVB-t tuner, on Xubuntu 12. 04.
[05:40] <K`zan> TomatoKetchup: running a 670 here, works fine in 32bit...
[05:40] <newgod> what's problem
[05:40] <szerzetes> I run w_scan, and it say: using DVB adapter auto detection.
[05:40] <szerzetes> 	/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0 -> DVB-T "ITE 9135(9006) Generic_1": good :-)
[05:40] <TomatoKetchup> ChipreEpicuros, I mean you could watch the system monitor for when it freezes, see if the cpu is jumping and what process is causing it
[05:40] <szerzetes> I set it tvtime.xml, as V4LDevice
[05:41] <hampsterblade> Sorry abour that
[05:41] <szerzetes> and it say: videoinput: /dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0 is not a video4linux device.
[05:41] <szerzetes> what do i wrong?
[05:42] <TomatoKetchup> K`zan, ah that's a pretty new card, nvidia driver just added support
[05:43] <hampsterblade> http://sgs4g.mhamptontech.com/networking.strace
[05:43] <hampsterblade> Sorry http://sgs4g.mhamptontech.com/network.strace
[05:43] <TomatoKetchup> K`zan, what driver version are you using?
[05:44] <madura> cryptsetup: WARNING: failed to detect canonical device of /dev/sda1 is shown when update-initramfs -u, what does it mean?
[05:45] <diddy403> !ldconfig
[05:48] <blackmatrix_ny> Is there anyway I can modify the seahorse app so that it ask for master password whenever someone tries to see passwords in plain format ?
[05:49] <newgod> yes
[05:51] <blackmatrix_ny> or is there a way to disable password from being viewed in plain format on that seahorse app ?
[05:56] <remlabm> can anyone help me with an nvidia issue, i have followed every walk through on the site and i cannot get x11 to start. i keep getting "Screens found, but none have a usable configuration". this is after doing the additional driver installation and removing xorg-xserver-nouveau. any ideas?
[05:57] <jellypod> how do i edit the icon launcher in (or the menus in general) on ubuntu 12.04 using Gnome Classic (gnome-panel)?
[05:57] <jellypod> remlabm: which card?
[05:57] <jasmin12e> Helloo
[05:57] <Darrow> I'm upgrading to 12.04 and the upgrader is stuck on ttf-mscorefonts-installer.  Any way I can skip over an upgrade?
[05:57] <remlabm> 8500gt
[05:57] <jasmin12e> I have a question
[05:58] <jellypod> remlabm: Im having good luck with the bumblebee drivers.
[05:58] <remlabm> which card are you using? and do you have multiple monitors?
[05:58] <jellypod> 610m (optimus)
[05:58] <jellypod> Nvidia 610m (optimus)
[05:59] <jellypod> remlabm: I have not tried multiple monitors yet
[05:59] <jasmin12e> Im trying to reinstall xp back over ubuntu but the bootable disc says it cant be read when I put it in. I even tried to reinstall a older version of ubuntu
[05:59] <jellypod> remlabm: the #bumblebee chan helped me alot.
[06:00] <jellypod> how do i edit the icon launcher in (or the menus in general) on ubuntu 12.04 using Gnome Classic (gnome-panel)?
[06:00] <jellypod> I mean within the application menu.
[06:01] <zizoo> Hello, does anyone know why my computer always crashes when shut down via cron?
[06:01] <jellypod> Application>Accessories>terminal for example, how to I edit the launcher in that menu on ubuntu 12.04 using Gnome Classic?
[06:01] <jellypod> zizoo: dunno
[06:02] <jagginess> jellypod, maybe you can make a launcher on the menu bar, then holt alt+rightclick on the icon
[06:03] <jellypod> jagginess: that does work, but I really prefer to change the launcher.  For example, I end googleearth to start with "optirun googleearth" for it to work.
[06:03] <jellypod> end=need
[06:03] <zizoo> Also, is there any way to set cron to only execute a command at the listed time if it's on? I set it to shut down at specified times, but if I turn it off before and turn it on after, it shuts down immediately. This is annoying.
[06:04] <jellypod> zizoo: I would run a bash script in cron, and the bash script would check if the process is running, and act accordingly
[06:05] <zizoo> Err, you mean have a bash script check the time and shut down if it's the specified time? That's a good idea.
[06:06] <flowerpot> Can anyone else using du 8.13 and Ubuntu 12.04 reproduce this bug? http://pastebin.com/GGhFDjDy
[06:07] <jellypod> zizoo: no, i mean setup the cron for whenever you want. but instead of running the command you want running at that time, run a script that checks if the process is running and then runs your command if it is.
[06:07] <hampsterblade> How can i troubleshoot the network service not starting in 12.04
[06:07] <zizoo> Huh? Are you thinking I mean to shut down a particular process, because I am shutting down the whole computer?
[06:08] <zizoo> Or what process am I meant to be checking for?
[06:08] <zizoo> The command is "sudo shutdown now".
[06:08] <jellypod> sudo poweroff
[06:09] <K`zan> TomatoKetchup: On this 32 bit (u10.10) Nvidia driver: 295.53.
[06:09] <remlabm> jellypod : no go on bumblebee, only shows one monitor as laptop with 1 resolution
[06:09] <zizoo> Oh... is that why it's crashing?
[06:09] <K`zan> TomatoKetchup: NV-CONTROL Version: 1.27
[06:09] <jellypod> remlabm: sorry.
[06:10] <jellypod> zorael: sorry, im unclear on what you want to do.  You want cron to run a command if the computer is turned on?
[06:10] <B4u> /Join #ubuntu
[06:11] <jellypod> zizoo: sorry, im unclear on what you want to do.  You want cron to run a command if the computer is turned on?
[06:13] <zizoo> Yes. I want it to turn off the computer. As it stands, there are two problems. To the crashing you said you didn't know what the problem was. The other was that it turns off again as soon as I turn it on if I shut it down before the specified time.
[06:13] <hampsterblade> Fucking computer
[06:14] <newgod> Fuckion woman
[06:14] <remlabm> heard that
[06:14] <jellypod> zizoo: Im not sure what the shutdown issue is.  Someone else here might be able to help.  Im curious what you want to do with cron.
[06:16] <jellypod> In Ubuntu 12.04, using Gome Classic (gnome-panel), how do you change the launcher command of an item in the menu.  For example I want Application>Internet>GoogleEarth to execute
[06:16] <jellypod> In Ubuntu 12.04, using Gome Classic (gnome-panel), how do you change the launcher command of an item in the menu.  For example I want Application>Internet>GoogleEarth to execute "optirun googleearth" instead of googleearth.
[06:17] <jellypod> hampsterblade: I have felt that way all week with ubuntu 12.04
[06:17] <deejay31> Hello
[06:18] <deejay31> Does anyone know of a way to install Ubuntu to a USB stick, so it boots like if it was on a hard drive
[06:18] <kimspindel> use unetbootin
[06:18] <hampsterblade> I just  lost networking and cant figure out why
[06:18] <jellypod> deejay31: are you using windows to make the usb?
[06:18] <hampsterblade> So im pretty pissed atm
[06:18] <deejay31> Will that make it boot like if I normal booted an ubuntu PC
[06:18] <jellypod> deejay31: not by default.
[06:18] <kimspindel> deejay31: yes, it has an option to
[06:18] <deejay31> Yes i am using windows
[06:18] <Darrow> I'm upgrading to 12.04 and the distribution upgrader just froze. What should I do?
[06:18] <jellypod> kimspindel: persistence?
[06:19] <jellypod> is that built in?
[06:19] <kimspindel> huh?
[06:19] <jagginess> deejay31, http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
[06:19] <deejay31> Thank you
[06:19] <jellypod> are persistent changes built into unetbootin? I thought it just made a live cd.
[06:20] <jellypod> he, I was wrong if it does persistent changes. that use to be harder to do.
[06:20] <kimspindel> oh, i don't even know what persistent changes are, lol
[06:20] <deejay31> Also, I am thinking of changing my Server from CentOS to Ubuntu, is there any significant changes?
[06:20] <jellypod> kimspindel: that means that you make a bootable live usb and it will save the changes that you make when you boot into it.
[06:21] <jagginess> deejay31, there's a server ubuntu edition that supports raid on install (the desktop one doesnt support raid on install)
[06:21] <deejay31> Ok but is there any HUGE differences
[06:21] <jellypod> deejay31: I like it better, the community is stronger imo.  more current applications are ported to ubuntu also, imo.
[06:21] <jagginess> deejay31, huge difference between centos and ubuntu? you should ask in #linux
[06:21] <kimspindel> ah i see. then i'm not sure.
[06:21] <kimspindel> (but i don't think so)
[06:22] <deejay31> Can you get: nginx, webalizer, Apache, Java, Irssi, Cowsay,
[06:22] <shape> Hello, I've installed Ubuntu 3 hours ago and since then Ive been trying to get Thunderbird to work. I keep getting this message: "Thunderbird failed to find the settings for your email account". I've tried both gmail and yahoo with the exact settings that I use on my other computer (which works no problem), and I get the same error. Can someone please help? :(
[06:22] <jellypod> deejay31: yes, definitely
[06:22] <jagginess> deejay31, you said "server". hence I'm thinking you should get a RAID setup..
[06:23] <deejay31> No, I have'nt got the resources/money for RAID
[06:23] <jagginess> deejay31, there's
[06:23] <deejay31> ?
[06:23] <jellypod> deejay31: I also like the apt package manager better than yum.
[06:23] <jagginess> "software raid" (which isnt bad and what i use)
[06:24] <deejay31> What is better than yum then
[06:24] <remlabm> jellypod : did you remove the nouveau drives when using bumblebee?
[06:24] <deejay31> How is it better7
[06:24] <jellypod> remlabm: ahhh..lemme see
[06:24] <jagginess> deejay31, you mean complementary, dpkg has aptitude and synaptic
[06:25] <hampsterblade> Fuuuuck i think im going to have to reinstall im out of ideas
[06:25] <jellypod> remlabm: Ive talk to the bumblebee guys about the dual monitor thing, they said, a day or so ago, they are still working on it with opitimus cards, its not perfect yet.  if you are running optimus, you need to use optirun to open nvidia, btw.
[06:25] <deejay31> Just to check, httpd (On centos) is called Apache2 on Ubuntu?
[06:25] <hampsterblade> Yes
[06:26] <deejay31> And nginx can be installed from source as usual
[06:27] <jellypod> remlabm: I have, bumblebee, libdrm-nouveau1a, libdrm-nouveau1a-dbg, xserver-xorg-video-nouveau and xserver-xor-video-nouveau-dgb
[06:27] <hampsterblade> Now the ubuntu install disk is going into kernel panic wtf
[06:27] <jagginess> deejay31, apt-cache search apache
[06:27] <machiolate> anyone have suggestions for ubuntu freezing/crashes? version 11.10
[06:28] <jellypod> deejay31: it breaks stuff less imo.  also faster.  more repos for ubuntu (imo) that are update more often.
[06:28] <jellypod> debian base systems are all around more stable, imo.
[06:28] <deejay31> Grrr, I am going to have to manually export and then import 20 mySql databases...
[06:28] <jellypod> deejay31: sudo apt-get install synaptic, that is a nice gui to see what you an install.
[06:28] <mjbrooks> hampsterblade: please watch your language
[06:29] <jellypod> In Ubuntu 12.04, using Gome Classic (gnome-panel), how do you change the launcher command of an item in the menu.  For example I  want Application>Internet>GoogleEarth to execute "optirun googleearth" instead of googleearth.
[06:29] <jellypod> gome=gnome*
[06:30] <madsailor> Hi all.  How can I change the default login background for 12.04 LTS?  Googling brings up Ubuntu Tweak , but I want to use something in the repos/use the terminal
[06:30] <jellypod> madsailor: I use ubuntu tweak to do that.
[06:30] <jagginess> jellypod, try to use synaptic or something to get the menu editor..
[06:30] <jellypod> there is a ppa for ubuntu tweak, to apt-get install ubuntu-tweak.
[06:30] <jellypod> jagginess: ok
[06:30] <deejay31> CAn you get iftop on ubuntu
[06:30] <jellypod> looking
[06:31] <jellypod> deejay31: yes
[06:31] <deejay31> Good thank you
[06:31] <jellypod> deejay31: tons of apps, any apt I can think of in Centos is in ubuntu, or some ubuntu ppa, and there is also so much more.
[06:32] <deejay31> jellypod: OK thans a relief :)
[06:32] <madsailor> jellypod, do you know of a solution in the main repos?
[06:33] <jellypod> madsailor: mmm, no
[06:33] <madsailor> ok, thanks
[06:34] <jellypod> madsailor: looking
[06:36] <jellypod> madsailor: you using unity?
[06:36] <deejay31> is the apache config file the same in ubuntu as it is in centos?
[06:36] <madsailor> jellypod, yes
[06:37] <jellypod> I thought it was unity-greeter.conf, but im looking for that.
[06:38] <Qalqi> i am courageous enough to login simultaneously with same user profile
[06:38] <deejay31>  is the apache config file the same in ubuntu as it is in centos?
[06:42] <jellypod> madsailor: yep, I don't know.  I do not normally use unity. Someone else in here might know..  Sorry.
[06:43] <flowerpot> What handles the detection and auto-mounting of USB drives in Ubuntu?
[06:43] <deejay31> Do all the same apache modules work on Ubuntu as they would on Centos
[06:43] <madsailor> jellypod, ok.  Thanks for taking a look.
[06:45] <jellypod> does anyone know the name of the application, so that I can launch for terminal, to open the Lock and Brightness gui in System Settings?
[06:48] <q0_0p> jellypod: you can set brightness with xbacklight
[06:48] <zizoo> Sorry, my xchat glitched for a bit there. I was wondering why no one said anything for a half hour. Thanks jellypod, I was just setting my computer to shutdown every evening at 1 AM. My sense of time is somewhat lacking, so rather than have an alarm tell me to get off, I decided to punish myself any time I fail to get off by 1, by losing all data in active programs. It's been working, but the problems with cron are annoying.
[06:49] <zizoo> Does anyone else know why my computer would crash consistently during shutdowns initiated by cron? =/
[06:49] <q0_0p> jellypod: you could set the brightness here /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0
[06:53] <deejay31> I am now leaving, and when I rejoin, I will have Ubuntu set up and running on my server
[06:56] <jellypod> answer to my first question: open terminal and run alacarte to edit menus \o/
[06:57] <jellypod> q0_0p: I will look at the dimming brightness, but I would like to make a launcher to open that app
[06:57] <jellypod> or just gnome the name of the app
[06:57] <jellypod> alacarte edits your menus in gnome classic, woohoo
[06:58] <_ProtekNickz> Hi all, Simple questio?, Is it ok to install this theme on Ubuntu 12.04 "KDE Desktop"?, """Install Transparent Swar-Black-Base Themes on Ubuntu 12.04 Precise/Ubuntu 11.10 Oneiric/11.04 Natty/10.10 Maverick/10.04 Lucid/Linux Mint (GTK3/2)"""
[06:59] <iops> _ProtekNickz: What do you mean by "ok"?
[06:59] <alexhairyman> KDE IS A WHOLE nother desktop environment
[06:59] <_ProtekNickz> iops: Well i use KDE and if I'm right in thinking that theme is for Gnome 3/2, so  was woundering
[07:01] <crizis> .. wtf?
[07:01] <iops> I think there are programs that make KDE use Gnome themes
[07:01] <remlabm> jellypod: reading about bumblebee, says its for optimus, am i mistaking or is that newer chips? or does bumblebee work on any nvidia chipset?
[07:01] <_ProtekNickz> ok..., so i shudda went with Gnome rather then KDE?
[07:01] <Qalqi> from then on my sound card is not funtioning
[07:02] <iops> If you want to use that theme, it's probably easier
[07:02] <_ProtekNickz> lol
[07:02] <alexhairyman> Its a matter of opinion
[07:03] <_ProtekNickz> iops, in you opinion is Gnome better  or wha?, as it was mentioned that KDE is overbloated Like Windows Vista?, or was that just some bias?
[07:04] <crizis> _ProtekNickz: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[07:04] <tacirus> Hey people, I have Ubuntu 10.04 and the Flash plugin version 11 installed , but the Epiphany browser doesn`t work for a game that is made with flash. How can I solve this?.
[07:04] <tacirus> The other browsers like Firefox, Chromium do run any flash conetent well
[07:04] <shape> Hello, I've installed Ubuntu 3 hours ago and since then Ive been trying to get Thunderbird to work. I keep getting this message: "Thunderbird failed to find the settings for your email account". I've tried both gmail and yahoo with the exact settings that I use on my other computer (which works no problem), and I get the same error. Can someone please help? :(
[07:05] <shape> I've tried reinstalling it multiple times, including the system itself and I get the same problem. The version is 12.0.1
[07:05] <iops> _ProtekNickz: It's a matter of preference, but I've always liked Gnome 2 (and now Unity) better than KDE
[07:05] <mjbrooks> install time has now exceed 6 hours... sigh
[07:06] <alexhairyman> Me too
[07:06] <_ProtekNickz> shape: make sure the pop and smtp settings are correct
[07:06] <mjbrooks> alexhairyman: I told it not to download updates but it is anyway it seems
[07:06] <shape> _ProtekNickz, I copied them 100% correct from the computer that is working with those settings. :(
[07:07] <iops> shape: Thunderbird should be able to auto configure for Gmail.  What server are you pointing it at?
[07:07] <shape> _ProtekNickz, I am losing my mind literally. I reinstalled Ubuntu even!
[07:07] <shape> iops, that's the thing, it doesn't do it automatically. I suspect something is blocking its connection.
[07:07] <_ProtekNickz> shape: did you check incase you need SSL? or normal pass ect..
[07:07] <shape> _ProtekNickz, I've done that, yes.
[07:07] <_ProtekNickz> k
[07:08] <iops> shape: Did you enable POP or IMAP in your Gmail settings?
[07:08] <Artemis3> shape, your problem seems related to thunderbird, reinstalling ubuntu is not necesary, you could just wipe ~/.thunderbird and start again
[07:08] <iops> shape: Do you have 2 factor authentication enabled?  You have to create an app specific password in that case
[07:09] <shape> iops, what is a 2 factor authentification?
[07:09] <shape> Artemis3 I did that at least 2 times :(
[07:09] <iops> If you're asking, then you probably don't have it enabled. :)  It's where Gmail sends you text message and you have to enter a code to login
[07:09] <prabuinet> hi, i can't find keyboard layout for my language(tamil) in ubuntu, so I would like to create one, where should I start?
[07:10] <Logan_> prabuinet: I have Tamil available as a keyboard layout in Ubuntu.
[07:10] <shape> iops. So my normal email, on my other computer works with Thunderbird right at this moment. And I am trying to set up the same email on this computer. You are saying they are conflicting?
[07:11] <prabuinet> Logan_: there are a few layouts listed, but i need the office layout for tamil (tamil99)
[07:11] <prabuinet> Logan_: official layout of the government
[07:12] <shape> iops. Because the email is working on the other computer, I assume everything is turned on in Gmail. no?
[07:12] <iops> shape: No, if it already works on one computer, it should work on the other
[07:12] <shape> iops, exactly :(
[07:12] <prabuinet> Logan_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamil_99
[07:12] <Logan_> Ah.
[07:12] <iops> Is that a Windows computer?
[07:12] <shape> iops, both of them are running Ubuntu.
[07:12] <shape> with Thunderbird that comes with it.
[07:13] <iops> shape:   Do you have access to that computer?  Try copying the entire .thunderbird folder over
[07:13] <shape> iops: I sure can
[07:13] <shape> iops: give me a sec
[07:14] <jellypod> remlabm: yes, new chipset, it has two gpus, you can run things using optirun as a prefix.
[07:14] <iops> shape: Delete the .thunderbird folder that's on the new computer first
[07:14] <shape> iops, shouldnt I just uninstall it?
[07:14] <iops> Nah, just delete the profile folder
[07:15] <iops> And copy the other one over
[07:15] <shape> iops, so just delete the .thunderbird from the home folder and copy the other one.
[07:15] <iops> Uninstalling Thunderbird actually won't remove the folder.  You want to copy the settings over
[07:15] <iops> Yep
[07:15] <jellypod> does anyone know the terminal command that will launch 'brightness and lock'?
[07:16] <shape> iops: copying now to a USB drive, 3 minutes remaining. I will let you know once I finish everything
[07:16] <iops> ok
[07:17] <iops> shape: If that doesn't work then the problem isn't in your Thunderbird settings
[07:18] <Logan_> prabuinet: Maybe someone in #ubuntu-tam would know?
[07:18] <jellypod> does anyone know the terminal command that will launch 'brightness and lock'? You can nomally launch it from gnome-control-center, second icon.
[07:18] <prabuinet> Logan_: thanks, i'll check it out
[07:18] <Logan_> np
[07:18] <shape> iops, in the meantime, while it's copying, what else could it be. ufw is disabled for example. Anything else that might block the connection?
[07:18] <iops> shape:  Also, close Thunderbird before you copy the folder onto the new computer
[07:19] <shape> iops, yep, it's closed and the folder is deleted.
[07:19] <maxyy> Que bueno verte por aqui [maxyy]
[07:19] <maxyy> Me alegra que entraste [robgraves]
[07:20] <mjbrooks> oh wonderful, after downloading the updates I told it not to, the installer now seesm to be hanging on the Installing System step
[07:22] <iops> shape:  Maybe.  Open a terminal and type "ping -c3 smtp.gmail.com".  If you can ping the server, then it's reachable
[07:24] <shape> iops: it works. I just pinged it. It should've worked anyway since the other computer connects and gets email fine. So the whole thing comes down to the system I just installed and/or the thunderbird version.
[07:25] <iops> What about "telnet smtp.gmail.com 587"
[07:25] <bersam> hi everybody! i want to install ubuntu beside of my archlinux, the problem is i want to share home partition between two distro but ubuntu can't access to my partition home ...
[07:25] <shape> iops: I copied it and it's working!
[07:25] <iops> Ok :)
[07:25] <shape> iops: so it was Thunderbird.
[07:26] <zizoo> Ok, so I figured something out about my cron problem. Every time cron shuts down the computer, stopping automatically generated error reports fails before the crash. Anyone know what that means, or what logs or such I can look at to help figure it out?
[07:26] <shape> iops: but now I just dont understand, after installing it 5 times, with 3 different methods, why it didn't work!
[07:26] <waxstone> hi, experiencing RANDOM freezing causing me to have to reboot. cannot CTRL+ALT+F1. (12.04 64bit Nvidia gtx680). Using proprietarydriver because less freezing than opensource driver
[07:26] <shape> iops: Thanks a lot for the suggestion btw! I appreciate it. At least I got it working.
[07:27] <iops> shape:  There was an error in the configuration settings. reinstalling it at the system level wouldn't make a difference as long as the old .thunderbird folder with the bad configuration was still there
[07:27] <iops> :)
[07:27] <shape> iops: But I even reinstalled Ubuntu
[07:28] <shape> iops: strange, no?
[07:30] <tacirus> Anybody to let me know why Epiphany browser doesn`t run flash while Chromium and Firefox are alright with it, having the Adobe flash player verison 11 installed
[07:30] <shape> iops: Btw, I can see now, that the program was skipping the part where it searches in the mozilla configuration database.
[07:30] <iops> shape: Yeah, but if you configured it wrong after reinstallation then you're back where you started
[07:30] <jellypod> does anyone know the terminal command that will launch 'brightness and lock'? You can nomally launch it from gnome-control-center,  second icon.
[07:30] <iops> shape:  Nice thing about copying the folder over is that you get all your emails already on the system rather than having to download them
[07:31] <shape> iops: yes I had to copy 1GB :) also iops: There was no configuration. It just wouldn't search and give me the imap for gmail from the mozilla database. It skipped that part and told me it couldn't find the settings and that I should configure it manually. And even if I did so it still wouldn't work.
[07:31] <shape> iops: That is what I don't understand what was going on
[07:31] <Zallx> howto webviewer tvtuner ?.?
[07:32] <Zallx> anyone ?
[07:32] <iops> It took 2 days to download 1.8 GB from my Gmail.  You got the emails in a few minutes this way :)
[07:33] <Zallx> no one ?
[07:33] <shape> iops, Yet! THanks again btw! I really appreciate it!
[07:33] <iops> np
[07:33] <Zallx> webspace tvtuner php in ubuntu ?
[07:33] <shape> iops, btw, the messages are encrypted right? As in someone copying the thunderbird folder, cannot see your messages right?
[07:34] <iops> no
[07:34] <orated> Hello! Is there any alternative command to ifconfig to get eth* details?
[07:34] <Zallx> ifup
[07:34] <Zallx> ifdown
[07:34] <iops> shape: You can change the permissions on the folder though
[07:34] <c4pt> Hi i am having problems with two sound cards and a conflict between two sound cards i am using snd-ctxfi and snd-hda-intel  the problem is when i put the sound blaster card into my computer and restart the intel audio disappears from the system completely even in lspci -vvv | grep Audio its not there anymore     so if i take out the sound blaster x-fi , my intel hda audio onboard is there again
[07:34] <c4pt> what can i do so that both sound cards are registered in the system?
[07:35] <shape> iops, I cannot find them though. I am looking because I was curious
[07:35] <jellypod> does anyone know the terminal command that will launch 'brightness and lock'? You can nomally launch it from gnome-control-center,  second icon.
[07:35] <orated> Zallx:  ifup - bring a network interface up -- ifdown - take a network interface down
[07:36] <orated> Zallx: I'm looking for eth* information instead of using ifconfig :)
[07:36] <iops> shape: I used pop on mine and it was in .thunderbird/profile.name/Mail/pop.googleemail.com.   Yours will probably be in .thunderbird/profile.name/ImapMail/(gmail something)
[07:37] <Zallx> orated: i guess ur alternative is in gtk
[07:37] <iops> shape: look for a file that's 1 GB :)
[07:37] <Zallx> or in kde
[07:37] <Zallx> visual packages
[07:37] <shape> iops: it's in ImapMail/imap.googlemail.com/[Gmail]sbd
[07:37] <hattrap> hi room
[07:37] <shape> iops: sucks though. I thought they were encrypted :(
[07:38] <mjbrooks> well, install is hune after spending 6+ hours downloadin updates I told it not to... not happy
[07:38] <orated> Zallx: Any command line alternative ...
[07:38] <shape> iops: this makes it less secure, under Windows for example.
[07:38] <mjbrooks> hung*
[07:38] <iops> shape: You could create an encrypted private folder and put the .thunderbird folder in that, then symbolic link it
[07:38] <hattrap> i formatted my usb using disk utility but now it is not detected by Ubuntu
[07:38] <Zallx> orated: if u write one
[07:38] <Zallx> one that prolly depends on ifconfig
[07:39] <iops> shape: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory
[07:39] <hattrap> can any1 help me with this
[07:39] <hattrap> i formatted my usb using disk utility but now it is not detected by Ubuntu
[07:39] <shape> iops: I see. I will learn how to do that. The reason I installed Ubunutu on a different machine was to learn Linux! :)
[07:39] <hattrap> @shape...u were intelligent
[07:40] <iops> mv ~/.thunderbird ~/Private ;  ln -s ~/Private/.thunderbird ~/.thunderbird
[07:40] <shape> hattrap, lol what do you mean? are you being sarcastic?
[07:40] <Miscni> morning all
[07:41] <shape> iops: yes, thanks!
[07:41] <c4pt> anyone ?
[07:41] <hattrap> i hope i would have done the same thing....i m faving lot of problems now...
[07:41] <hattrap> facing*
[07:42] <Zallx> hi c4pt
[07:42] <c4pt> hi
[07:42] <Zallx> what u need ?
[07:42] <c4pt> Zallx, i am trying to run two sound cards at the same time onboard sound and sb x-fi sound
[07:42] <c4pt> Zallx, if i put the sb x-fi card into my computer my intel hda disappears from lspci and the system
[07:42] <hattrap> @shape i formatted my usb using disk utility but now it is not detected by Ubuntu
[07:42] <Zallx> i need a webshare or viewer for tvtuner .... for my phone so i can watch tv always
[07:43] <c4pt> Zallx, if i take the card out (if i take out the sb x-fi) my intel hda audio is back
[07:43] <shape> hattrap, I chose to do that because the computer is really old and I wasn't using it. 1.6 Ghz AMD Sempron. But if you don't have an extra computer I'm sure you can learn it if you run it in Virtualbox or VMware, that way you won't mess it up if you're screwing around.
[07:43] <Zallx> c4pt: best guess is to add virtual mixers ?
[07:44] <hattrap> unfortunately i messed up all my date...wished would have taken a backup
[07:44] <Zallx> why 2 soundcards ?
[07:44] <c4pt> Zallx, but why does it disappear from lspci -vvv ?
[07:44] <renatka> renatka
[07:44] <c4pt> Zallx, one card for parallels extreme (virtualization)
[07:44] <jellypod> does anyone know the terminal command that will launch 'brightness and lock'? You can nomally launch it from gnome-control-center,  second icon.
[07:44] <renatka> Renatka
[07:44] <Zallx> c4pt: becuz onboard is disabsled when offboard is attached is my best guess
[07:44] <shape> hattrap, but you formatted the USB, werent you expecting to lose the data?
[07:44] <shape> hattrap, does windows see it?
[07:44] <c4pt> Zallx, so how can i resolve it ?
[07:44] <c4pt> Zallx, i would really like both cards to be used
[07:45] <Zallx> u need to rewrite the driver so it doesnt disable
[07:45] <renatka> Renatka
[07:45] <c4pt> Zallx, it shows the video card hdmi audio and usb audio
[07:45] <Zallx> or add a AlwaysEnableOnboard.sh
[07:45] <Zallx> to re-enable it after its disabled ?
[07:46] <jellypod> seriously, nothing for brightness and lock?
[07:46] <hattrap> not in USb...i used to work in windows. when i started Ubuntu it was ext....i tried to change ext to ntfs so that i can access ubuntu from windows but...forget it ...it is a long story
[07:46] <Zallx> then add that to bashrc
[07:46] <shape> Does anyone know if your firewall iptables is not enabled, if it makes you vulnerable to attacks? I remember in Windows I was getting attacked all the time.
[07:46] <waxstone> hi, experiencing RANDOM freezing causing me to have to reboot. cannot CTRL+ALT+F1. (12.04 64bit Nvidia gtx680). Using proprietarydriver because less freezing than opensource driver
[07:46] <c4pt> Zallx, i could write the .sh i just dont understand how to re enable it right now
[07:46] <c4pt> Zallx, if i wanted to re enable my snd hda intel what should i do ? with the snd-ctxfi running ?
[07:47] <Zallx> lscpi needs to take a discision when 2 audio devices are connected
[07:47] <Zallx> witch is master witch will be disabled
[07:48] <jellypod> shape: depends on who you ask..  you behind a router?
[07:48] <Berg> any chance of getting some help with the nvidia drivers for a geforce 8800 card i fresh installed ubuntu 12.04 and let it update on install and then i used the driver manager to install the drivers //// it starts but it is stuttery i can get it to do things but i have to wait up to 5 minutes for it at act
[07:49] <shape> jellypod, yes.
[07:50] <jellypod> if you are blocking inbound connections (usual set by default on a router) you are likely gud.  You would need to setup port forwarding to hit your machine from outside your router.
[07:50] <shape> jellypod, Linksys wrt54gl. Yeah and it's all good, yet Comodo still detects intrusions in Windows.
[07:50] <c4pt> Zallx,  can i pm?
[07:50] <shape> jellypod, blocks intrusions*
[07:51] <jellypod> windows is vulnerable to everything imo.  I cant help with that.
[07:51] <shape> jellypod, Oh, yes I know that. I was just asking if you have iptables disabled, would you still be safe.
[07:54] <jellypod> shape: why do you have it disabled?
[07:55] <greenit> hi, i have a lexmark-printer and installed the lexmark-toolbox, but when i want to print, it just aborts the print-jobs, because i have no more color-ink, however, the black ink is nearly full and i want to print black only...  how can i force the print or change settings so that it prints?
[07:56] <DarwinSurvivor> greenit: that's probably a question best answered by lexmark. From what I've heard some printers won't *let* you do that.
[07:56] <shape> jellypod, can you please paste me what you said in case you responded? My internet crashed. :(
[07:56] <DarwinSurvivor> greenit: there is an alternative though
[07:56] <greenit> DarwinSurvivor, k
[07:56] <greenit> DarwinSurvivor, which one?
[07:57] <jellypod> shape: Just asked why you have iptables off.
[07:57] <DarwinSurvivor> greenit: some printers allow you to override the toner sensor to always show pull (I do this on my HP to get a few hundred more prints per cartridge).
[07:57] <DND> hi guys need help. we have a very old P4 computer running ubuntu 12.04 it also has a very old agp video card that has 2 outputs. the problem is.when i left the two tvs running the second tv just decides to sleep
[07:57] <DND> i have disabled the screensaver and its still happening
[07:58] <AtTrackTor> hi @ all
[07:58] <DarwinSurvivor> greenit: on the HP it actually right in the button-controlled menu on the printer itself (as well as the printer's web interface), you'll have to check with lexmark to find out if your printer has a similar feature (check the manual for "override")
[07:58] <shape> jellypod, before I answer that, is iptables the same as ufw ?
[07:58] <jellypod> mm, no
[07:58] <greenit> DarwinSurvivor, thx
[07:58] <fyrzen> Hello, I have a small query for you gentlemen. I have a current ubuntu installation on one partition (18GB). I want to make another (125GB) partition my home folder and preserve all settings. Will simply moving the user directory (and other files in /home) to the new partition, and mounting it as /home in /etc/fstab do the trick?
[07:58] <shape> jellypod, then it's not off sorry. I meant ufw is disabled.
[07:58] <jellypod> shape: ufw is a iptables frontend
[07:58] <shape> ufw is disabled by default when you install
[07:58] <Berg> any chance of getting some help with the nvidia drivers for a geforce 8800 card i fresh installed ubuntu 12.04 and let it update on install and then i used the driver manager to install the drivers //// it starts but it is stuttery i can get it to do things but i have to wait up to 5 minutes for it at act
[07:59] <zornent> hello all
[07:59] <DarwinSurvivor> fyrzen: should yes. but as always with partition stuff back everything up just in case
[07:59] <jellypod> ufw is a iptables frontend, jsut a controller program for iptables.
[07:59] <jellypod> type sudo iptable -L
[07:59] <zornent> is there a good tut on how to get a built in laptop webcam working in ubuntu?
[07:59] <fyrzen> DarwinSurvivor, jolly good, thanks very much
[07:59] <jellypod> that will list your iptables
[07:59] <DarwinSurvivor> fyrzen: no problem
[08:00] <c4pt> Zallx, can i pm?
[08:00] <DarwinSurvivor> !webcam | zornent
[08:00] <shape> jellypod, Chain input policies are set to accept, what does that mean?
[08:00] <DND> any help?
[08:01] <deejay31> Oh ues, I no have ubuntu installed on my server
[08:01] <jellypod> that is default
[08:01] <deejay31> *now
[08:01] <DarwinSurvivor> DND: can you connect another display to it (or swap the displays) to determine if it is something specific with the tv or the output of the card itself?
[08:01] <jellypod> shape: that is default.
[08:01] <shape> jellypod, so it's all good, right?
[08:01] <jellypod> sounds good
[08:02] <jellypod> deejay31: how is it?
[08:02] <deejay31> jellypod: I was  about to reinstall centos, because apt-get want installing packages, then I realised that I need to run sudo apt-get update
[08:02] <jellypod> sudo!
[08:02] <DND> DarwinSurvivor, ok wil try switching and will even heck the bios
[08:02] <deejay31> Better than centos though
[08:02] <shape> jellypod, So is there any other way I might be at risk against attacks? Or just being on Ubuntu makes it hard to do that.
[08:02] <AtTrackTor> need just a small hint. I created a file as root in a folder named /home/shared (to have a folder for all users). chmod 777 on folder and file. chgrp users on folder and file. but still trying to open the file as one of my "users" says "error opening file". can someone please tell me, what I forgot?
[08:02] <jellypod> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:02] <jellypod> then reboot
[08:02] <deejay31> who me
[08:03] <jellypod> shape: being on ubuntu makes it hard, but it really depends on what you are doing.
[08:03] <DarwinSurvivor> AtTrackTor: please run "ls -l path_to_file" and tell us what you get
[08:03] <jellypod> if you are just using a desktop behind a router, you should be fine from the outside world.
[08:03] <jellypod> as long as the router blocks incoming traffic
[08:03] <deejay31> jellypod: Just need to upload all 400mb of files now!
[08:04] <shape> jellypod, Like malicious websites trying to attack you.
[08:04] <jellypod> I do?
[08:04] <jellypod> shape: that is a different issue
[08:04] <fasta> How can I answer all upgrade questions at the same time?
[08:04] <jellypod> you still need to be careful of what you click on, but you are MUCH safter with ubuntu
[08:04] <deejay31> jellypod: no me
[08:04] <jellypod> deejay31: do it
[08:04] <jellypod> y
[08:04] <DarwinSurvivor> DND: remember, if you are using a laptop, chances are you will eventually connect to an unencrypted network (mcdonalds, starbucks, etc). THAT is where your firewall will save your butt.
[08:04] <jellypod> needs the upgrades
[08:04] <deejay31> me do what
[08:04] <fasta> It now upgrades a bunch of packages and then stops asking me questions and then it goes again and then it stops again. It drives me crazy.
[08:05] <AtTrackTor> DarwinSurvivor: drwxrxrwx 7 root users 4096 2012-05-19 20:22 aponotebook
[08:05] <jellypod> deejay31: sorry, I thought you were running upgrades with apt
[08:05] <deejay31> I did
[08:05] <fasta> It is also completely unreasonable behaviour as it could also just ask all those questions at the beginning or the end.
[08:05] <AtTrackTor> DarwinSurvivor: ah.. of course its drwxrwxrwx (+w)
[08:05] <netrunner1> greetings everyone! im trying to instll ubuntu12.04 server edition in an old machine(pentium m 1.5Ghz) and im getting an error message telling me that the kernel requires pae w/c is not present in my CPU...
[08:05] <jellypod> deejay31: oh, ok.
[08:05] <DarwinSurvivor> AtTrackTor: that's a directory, not a file
[08:06] <jellypod> is everything working gud?
[08:06] <deejay31> Yes, I didnt need to manuslly install , my host has that option!
[08:06] <jellypod> deejay31: cool.
[08:07] <deejay31> Yes, It saves all the CD''s and USB drives and slow internet stuff
[08:07] <jellypod> deejay31: check out /apt/sources.list, you might want to uncomment partners.  Also check out the medibuntu repos.
[08:07] <deejay31> My packages are working now
[08:07] <jellypod> sweet
[08:07] <jellypod> iftop
[08:07] <jellypod> htop
[08:07] <jellypod> [:
[08:07] <FloodBot1> jellypod: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:07] <jellypod> FloodBot1: sorry
[08:07] <deejay31> Lol
[08:08] <jellypod> (:
[08:08] <AtTrackTor> DarwinSurvivor: you're right. and i think, i found the reason. the group of all files changed. but most files are still in mod 755 or even 600.
[08:08] <DND> DarwinSurvivor, is that message for me im using a desktop and 2 LCD tv are connected to a single video card
[08:08] <deejay31> Is it possible to use irssi as an IRC bouncer
[08:08] <deejay31> I suppose if I put it in a screen...
[08:08] <jellypod> mmmmm...how do you mean?
[08:08] <jellypod> yes, that is what i do deejay31
[08:08] <jellypod> screen
[08:09] <deejay31> So you are using irssi now
[08:09] <zizoo> lol, apologizing to bots. I've done that. xD.... For a sec I thought I figured out your problem, jellypod, then I realized that you mentioned you're using 12.04 now. I'm thinking I was right to delay updating. Lots of people having random troubles. >.>
[08:09] <DarwinSurvivor> DND: no, I was answering another quick question for someone else. did you get the TV's switched and narrow down the source of the problem?
[08:09] <jellypod> deejay31: nice howto for irssi and ubuntu http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1010780
[08:09] <deejay31> I am using irssi on ubuntu now
[08:09] <Berg> I take it there is no remedy for my problem as no response have a nice day all
[08:09] <jellypod> just did it on ubuntu 12.04
[08:10] <jellypod> deejay31: well if you want the irssi scripts and such
[08:10] <deejay31> Ok thank you
[08:10] <jellypod> np
[08:11] <deejay31> Joy only 59 minutes left of uploading
[08:11] <DarwinSurvivor> Athanasius: why are your files mod 755? Are they scripts or something? (odd numbered permissions mean executable)
[08:12] <Athanasius> DarwinSurvivor: huh?
[08:12] <Athanasius> oh
[08:13] <netrunner1> is there a boot option i can place to use a non-pae kernel on a 12.04 server installation?
[08:13] <jellypod> so another fail with ubuntu 12.04, no command line command to run the brightness & lock window
[08:13] <deejay31> Oh yes ,ubuntu is the best
[08:14] <jellypod> fail
[08:14] <jellypod> \o/ubuntu
[08:14] <deejay31> I using Ubuntu 11.10 x86_64, is that good?
[08:14] <jellypod> deejay31: sure
[08:14] <deejay31> My host didnt have 12.04
[08:15] <jellypod> its gud enough for now
[08:15] <jellypod> i still use 10.04
[08:15] <jellypod> and love it
[08:15] <deejay31> Whys that
[08:15] <zizoo> 10.04 is better you think?
[08:15] <jellypod> I like it better
[08:15] <jellypod> no unity
[08:16] <deejay31> Do you need unity on a server?
[08:16] <jellypod> gnome2...no reason to really upgrade.
[08:16] <zizoo> Isn't gnome classic in 11.10 good enough for that?
[08:16] <jellypod> deejay31: no
[08:16] <waxstone> hi, experiencing RANDOM freezing causing me to have to reboot. cannot CTRL+ALT+F1. (12.04 64bit Nvidia gtx680). Using proprietarydriver because less freezing than opensource driver
[08:16] <zizoo> I haven't had problems with it anyways.
[08:16] <jellypod> install gnome-panel and gnome-shell if you want to try something else for GUI desktop deejay31
[08:16] <jellypod> zizoo: some like, most ive met do not like unity (yet)
[08:17] <deejay31> pastebin
[08:17] <jellypod> ?
[08:17] <deejay31> I was seeing if ubottu is in the room
[08:17] <deejay31> http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi
[08:17] <zizoo> No, no, I dislike unity. I'm talking about using the classic desktop to be rid of the interface.... Or is that a bit backwards of me?
[08:18] <jellypod> zizoo: I use classic
[08:18] <jellypod> on 12.04
[08:18] <StarryNight> i went kde
[08:18] <jellypod> and regular old gnome2 on 10.04
[08:18] <ldz420> jellypod: yeah.. i know a couple of people that don't like unity some of the item are imo good innovations - I am also not a fan of new things and didn't think that I would like unity
[08:18] <deejay31> I hate unity, in my opinion it is only good on a touchscreen
[08:18] <jellypod> kde, blah, imo.
[08:18] <zizoo> but it's giving you a lot of grief now, isn't it? I've been pretty happy on 11.10's classic.
[08:18] <zizoo> Agreed on the touchscreen point.
[08:18] <deejay31> Yes
[08:18] <fasta> Ubuntu informed me 3 times now that the php.ini file has changed. One would think that one is enough.
[08:19] <ldz420> have anyone that doesn't like unity use 12.04 LTS?
[08:19] <popey> jellypod: gnome-control-center screen
[08:19] <jellypod> ldz420: just such a learning curve.  been using ubuntu since breezy, debian/slackware/gentoo before that.  This is easily the hardest time ive had in a while.
[08:19] <jellypod> popey: for what?
[08:19] <popey> jellypod: in answer to your comment that you can't start brightness and lock from the command line
[08:20] <jellypod> popey: right, is there a terminal command for the brightness window, second icon, I just want to lanch that second icon in gnome-control-center..
[08:20] <popey> jellypod: thats what i just gave you gnome-control-center screen
[08:20] <deejay31> Jellypod: Do you think the centos apache config file will work on ubuntu
[08:21] <jellypod> popey: YOU R the man
[08:21] <jellypod> \o/thx
[08:21] <popey> np
[08:21]  * jellypod is SOOO HAPPY
[08:22] <popey> so, we can conclude from this that 12.04 is not as faily as first announced :p
[08:22] <deejay31> Ok...
[08:22] <excalibr> does anyone know of way to edit sciTE menu entries?
[08:22] <ldz420> jellypod: I can understand I started ubuntu on 5.04 and used fedora and redhat before.  but when using the HUD I have found it useful
[08:23] <deejay31> Who here uses ubuntu on a server?
[08:23] <jellypod> ldz420: agreed
[08:23] <jellypod> deejay31: o/ I do
[08:23] <deejay31> Same
[08:23] <jellypod> a few, and i use centos, in a server room.
[08:23] <jellypod> likez ubuntu moar
[08:23] <DarwinSurvivor> deejay31: I used to (using FreeBSD on the server now)
[08:24] <deejay31> When I leave an SSH session inactive for about 2 minutes, my host drops the connection!?
[08:24] <DarwinSurvivor> DND: are you still there?
[08:26] <ldz420> ok I have an issue and wanted to know if someone could think of some options that I could look into. I am using nvidia and when not using the proprietary drivers
[08:26] <ldz420> my screen resolution doesn't go past 1024 * 768.  which doesn't bother me that much . which is why I am not using the proprietary driver but wanted to know if there my be some options
[08:27] <ldz420> besides proprietary nvidia drivers
[08:28] <Wiz_KeeD> hello guys
[08:28] <ldz420> hey wiz_keed
[08:29] <DarwinSurvivor> ldz420: is there any reason you're *not* using the proprietary drivers?
[08:30] <c0deMaster> whats the advantages of using Apparmor over selinux? other than its easier.
[08:33] <Wiz_KeeD> http://linuxconfig.org/how-to-crack-a-wireless-wep-key-using-air-crack does anyone know why wlan0 is not available?
[08:33] <jyrge> , for more info use WHOIS NickServ NickServ
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[08:33] <ldz420> DarwinSurvivor: when possible I try to stay away from proprietary it just hold a negative connotation in my mind especially when open source alternative covers my needs.. it is just the higher resolution would help with fitting more item on the screen . (but I do have more than one workspace)
[08:35] <Wiz_KeeD> sorry connection went down for a sec
[08:35] <ldz420> so I don't know if a little reading and some coding could resolve the issue that I am having.. but I really wouldn't know where to start.. or if there are some specific driver versions that would resolve the issue
[08:37] <TomatoKetchup> ldz420, just curious what card you are running?
[08:38] <ldz420> TomatoKetchup: nvidia geforce 7300 LE
[08:38] <Vbitz> install on a hp mini netbook with 64bit 12.04 has frozen
[08:39] <Vbitz> complaining about GPT signatures, interface is responsive but nothing is happening, I'm installing using ubootin
[08:39] <Wiz_KeeD> does anyone have any ideea?
[08:41] <openbees> unable to install anything from software center ubuntu 12.04
[08:41] <Wiz_KeeD> http://askubuntu.com/questions/139462/wlan0-shown-as-eth1-after-upgrading-to-12-04 i have the same problem but i have not upgraded to the latest ubuntu
[08:42] <openbees>  unable to install anything from software center of Ubuntu 12.04 . updated system . launched using terminal with sudo but still not working. Any idea what happening ?
[08:43] <fasta> How can I list only unread mail from one account in the thunderbird icon in unity?
[08:46] <Wiz_KeeD> http://askubuntu.com/questions/139462/wlan0-shown-as-eth1-after-upgrading-to-12-04 can anyone relate to tis problem? i am in 10.04
[08:47] <Wiz_KeeD> this is something more close to my purpose
[08:47] <Wiz_KeeD> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1793606
[08:52] <jellyblob> How do I save connection (like with bookmarks) using "Connect to Server" in ubuntu 12.04 using Gnome classic?
[08:52] <jellyblob> ohai all
[08:52] <gnr> hi
[08:52] <jellyblob> ohai gnr
[08:52] <gnr> Wiz_KeeD: /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[08:53] <Wiz_KeeD> i think you got the path wrong gnr
[08:54] <jellyblob> Im using Gnome Classic on Ubuntu 12.04.  How do I save server connections, like under Place>bookmarks, the way I use to in 10.04?
[08:54] <gnr> you seems to be smart
[08:54] <Wiz_KeeD> no i wan't trying to, there is no such directory Gnea
[08:54] <Wiz_KeeD> gnr,
[08:55] <gnr> is the /etc/udev existed?
[08:56] <jellyblob> anyone know how to save server connections, like Places>bookmarks, for ssh connections using "Connect to Server"? On ubuntu 12.04..?
[08:56] <jellyblob> using Gnome Classic?
[08:56] <Wiz_KeeD> wait, found it gnr
[08:56] <gnr> perhaps dh_installudev - install udev rules files?
[08:56] <fasta> I run that Ubuntu screen program, but inside such a session I started another screen session. When I press C-a C-d, it detaches from the outer Ubuntu screen session. How do I detach from the inner screen session?
[08:57] <Wiz_KeeD> http://pastie.org/3939048
[08:57] <jellyblob> fasta: I will kill the second session with ctrl+d
[08:57] <cek>  Hi. I'd like to have a very recent-kernel livecd, for testing new hardware. What would you recommend?
[08:57] <cek>  That is, it means some userspace daemons should be aware of that hardware, too. like lsusb, lspci, dmidecode, mcelog
[08:57] <jellyblob> 12.04
[08:58] <Wiz_KeeD> what now gnr :) ?
[08:58] <fasta> jellyblob: that has no effect.
[08:58] <jellyblob> cek: is ubuntu 12.04 gud enough?
[08:58] <cek> jellyblob, can it work under kernel.org latest stable kernel?
[08:58] <jellyblob> fasta, if you are in the second session? you should be able to ctrl+d and exit
[08:58] <fasta> jellyblob: I also cannot press F9 to get the menu.
[08:59] <jellyblob> let me do it to myself and see, I do that all the time accidently [:
[08:59] <fasta> jellyblob: my second session is this irc chat.
[08:59] <DarwinSurvivor> jellyblob: just drap/drop the folder to the bookmarks toolbar
[08:59] <fasta> jellyblob: there is no extra shell
[08:59] <gnr> edit the file, delete the one you don't want and add the one you need
[08:59] <jellyblob> ah, fasta easiest thing is to kill them both and start again, just saying, imo
[08:59] <fasta> jellyblob: that doesn't sound like a very informed solution.
[09:00] <jellyblob> fasta: if you kill the first session, I think it will kill the second session
[09:00] <jellyblob> fasta: Im just saying what is easy
[09:00] <cek> I don't want ubuntu with all bloatware, is it possible to make a text livecd?
[09:00] <jellyblob> if you hit ctrl+d in the second session though, at least on 10.04 and 12.04, it exits the session
[09:00] <gnr> Wiz_KeeD: something like this: # PCI device 0x168c:0x002b (ath9k)
[09:00] <gnr> SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTR{address}=="77:de:2b:10:0e:d0", ATTR{dev_id}=="0x0", ATTR{type}=="1", KERNEL=="wlan*", NAME="wlan1"
[09:01] <jellyblob> cek: what about server edition?
[09:01] <Wiz_KeeD> i should run a command?
[09:01] <gnr> just make sure the drivers, mac address and the names are correct
[09:01] <Wiz_KeeD> ok step 2...how do i do that? :))
[09:01] <gnr> reboot and see if all is right
[09:01] <Wiz_KeeD> i've rebooted every day
[09:02] <Wiz_KeeD> why should anything change, i hadn't done anything
[09:02] <fasta> jellyblob: I already found the answer.
[09:03] <jellyblob> fasta: screen -r?
[09:03] <Wiz_KeeD> or did you imply i run a command and i hadn't noticed gnr
[09:03] <gnr> Wiz_KeeD: did you see this? SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTR{address}=="77:de:2b:10:0e:d0", ATTR{dev_id}=="0x0", ATTR{type}=="1", KERNEL=="wlan*", NAME="wlan1"
[09:03] <jellyblob> fasta: great? i use screen everyday, i hate it when that happens [:
[09:03] <jellyblob> great?=great!
[09:03] <Wiz_KeeD> ahh, you mean add that to the doc and reboot gnr?
[09:03] <fasta> jellyblob: no, and you should t advice people to kill programs.
[09:04] <gnr> Wiz_KeeD: yup
[09:04] <fasta> jellyblob: solution was c-a-a-d.
[09:04] <jellyblob> fasta, ah I didnt know you were running the program...
[09:04] <fasta> jellyblob: yes, you knew.
[09:04] <fasta> jellyblob: because I said it was my irc client.
[09:04] <gnr> Wiz_KeeD:just make sure the drivers, mac address and the names are correct
[09:04] <jellyblob> fasta, ctrl+d is the easy thing to do, if you do not like the advice, feel free to ask someone else.
[09:04] <Wiz_KeeD> gnr, how can i do that?
[09:05] <Wiz_KeeD> with mac i can do ifconfig
[09:05] <fasta> jellyblob: I also told you that ctrl+d didnt work.
[09:05] <jellyblob> ctrl+d only makes sense if you are in terminal
[09:05] <jellyblob> if you are in irssi, it does nothing
[09:05] <fasta> jellyblob: and where was I?
[09:05] <gnr> Wiz_KeeD: ifconfig first and note down the mac
[09:05] <fasta> jellyblob: you should really stop your redundant talking.
[09:05] <jellyblob> fasta: I didnt know you were in your irc client.
[09:05] <Wiz_KeeD> gnr, got it
[09:05] <jellyblob> fasta: you got your answer /ignore fasta
[09:06] <fasta> I will ignore you.
[09:06] <Wiz_KeeD> so i should replace it in your example?
[09:06] <gnr> Wiz_KeeD: nope, that's mine :)
[09:06] <gnr> Wiz_KeeD: haha except the mac
[09:06] <Wiz_KeeD> so i replace the mac with the one from ifconfig
[09:07] <DarwinSurvivor> DND: ok, I have to go now, good luck with your TV's
[09:07] <gnr> Wiz_KeeD: just change the mac, i think it should work
[09:07] <Wiz_KeeD> ok, thank you gnr i'll reboot and be back
[09:07] <Wiz_KeeD> hopefully :-s
[09:07] <Wiz_KeeD> wish me luck :))
[09:07] <gnr> Wiz_KeeD: good luck
[09:08] <jondot> how do i change font size to a fractional size, i.e. 10.6 in the new 12.04 terminal?
[09:09] <Wiz-KeeD> gnr, what should have happened?
[09:10] <Wiz-KeeD> :)
[09:10] <Twinlator> HELP: git-daemon-sysvinit cannot be removed
[09:11] <gnr> Wiz_KeeD:what do you mean?
[09:12] <Wiz-KeeD> gnr, i've changed the rules as you said, rebooted, and i see nothing different
[09:12] <gnr> Twinlator:apt-get remove --force ?
[09:13] <jellyblob> anyone know how to save server connections, like Places>bookmarks, for ssh connections using "Connect to Server"?
[09:13] <gnr> cWiz-Keed:an you pastebin the edit version... the whole file
[09:14] <gnr> Wiz-Keed:can you pastebin the edit version... the whole file + the ifconfig output
[09:14] <Twinlator> gnr: It doesn't work
[09:14] <Wiz-KeeD> what was that path again gnr? to the rules
[09:15] <gnr> Twinlator:dpkg -r --force-remove-reinstreq <package> ?
[09:15] <jellyblob> anyone know how to save server connections, like Places>bookmarks, for ssh connections using "Connect to Server"?
[09:16] <gnr> Wiz-KeeD:mine is /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[09:17] <Wiz-KeeD> http://pastie.org/3939098
[09:17] <Vbitz> why are there 3 floodbots
[09:17] <jellyblob> anyone know how to save server connections, like Places>bookmarks, for ssh connections using "Connect to Server"? Ubuntu 12.04 Gnome classic.
[09:18] <gnr> Wiz-Keed:it's the eth1 that you want to chanbge to wlan1 right?
[09:19] <Twinlator> gnr: twinlator@twinlator-OEM:~$ dpkg -r --force-remove-reinstreq git-daemon-sysvinit
[09:19] <Twinlator> dpkg: error: requested operation requires superuser privilege
[09:19] <Twinlator> twinlator@twinlator-OEM:~$ sudo dpkg -r --force-remove-reinstreq git-daemon-sysvinit
[09:19] <Twinlator> (Reading database ... 275683 files and directories currently installed.)
[09:19] <Twinlator> Removing git-daemon-sysvinit ...
[09:19] <Twinlator> update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/git-daemon exists during rc.d purge (use -f to force)
[09:19] <FloodBot1> Twinlator: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:19] <Twinlator> dpkg: error processing git-daemon-sysvinit (--remove):
[09:19] <Twinlator>  subprocess installed post-removal script returned error exit status 1
[09:19] <karthick87>  How to change the background image of login screen in ubuntu 12.04 ? it automatically changes when i change the wallpaper, how do disable this feature ?
[09:19] <jellyblob> karthick87: good question
[09:19] <jellyblob> also
[09:19] <jellyblob> anyone know how to save server connections, like Places>bookmarks, for ssh connections using "Connect to Server"? Ubuntu 12.04 Gnome classic.
[09:21] <thegame8890> My computer slows down significantly with continuous operation. After a few hours it's struggling to do anything. I checked my lists of tasks and I've pinpointed it to a task called "whoopsie". It is sometimes using up 100% of my CPU and at least 50% of my RAM. I believe this is what's called a memory leak issue? Could someone help me with this please.
[09:21] <Wiz-KeeD> gnr, most probably
[09:22] <Wiz-KeeD> i have no trouble with the name, i cannot use aircrack-ng to test my router
[09:22] <Twinlator> gnr: i typed, but it shows    http://paste.ubuntu.com/997036/
[09:22] <jellyblob> WHY did Canonical take out bookmarking for "Connect to Server"?
[09:22] <jellyblob> is there a new way?
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> jellyblob: once you connect, use the add bookmark there
[09:23] <Wiz-KeeD> if i replace eth1 with wlan0 in this example gnr it doesn't work http://linuxconfig.org/how-to-crack-a-wireless-wep-key-using-air-crack
[09:23] <jellyblob> ActionParsnip: on the left menu pain?
[09:23]  * jellyblob is trying this now.
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> jellyblob: the add bookmark is in the global menu
[09:23] <jellyblob> ActionParsnip: oh i see it now..
[09:23] <jellyblob> trying..
[09:24] <karthick87> Also ubuntu 12.04 is very slow in login into user account. Any fix ?
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> thegame8890: http://askubuntu.com/questions/135540/what-is-the-whoopsie-process-and-what-does-it-do
[09:26] <ActionParsnip> karthick87: all users? (make a fresh one to test if needed)
[09:26] <jellyblob> ActionParsnip: totally works, thx
[09:26] <gnr> Wiz-Keed:http://pastie.org/3939117 this will be your new line 17, hash line 11 and 14
[09:26] <ActionParsnip> jellyblob: in Quantal, the bookmarks appear in the right click menu on nautilus in Unity :)
[09:27] <Twinlator> how to remove git
[09:27] <ActionParsnip> Twinlator: use software centre
[09:27] <jyrge> Wiz-Keed, did you put your wlan interface into monitor mode
[09:28] <jellyblob> ActionParsnip: ah, Quantal
[09:29] <u53r> hello. does ubuntu have a function for automatically switching between using a graphic card and internal processor graphics like intel hd 4000?
[09:29] <karthick87> ActionParsnip: How to change the background image of login screen in ubuntu 12.04 ? it automatically changes when i change the wallpaper, how do disable this feature ?
[09:30] <gnr> Twinlator:update-rc.d git-daemon remove
[09:31] <thegame8890> ActionParsnip: thank you for the link. So can I just remove whoopsie?
[09:32] <ActionParsnip> i guess
[09:33] <thegame8890> ActionParsnip: OK, thank you :)
[09:33] <ogut> Ubuntuuu
[09:34] <Funkt> ..
[09:34] <czubik8805> helo
[09:35] <czubik8805> anybody is here ?
[09:35] <Twinlator> gnr: thank you for your help
[09:36] <ogut> Hello
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> quiet today
[09:37] <miss_ubuntu> Good Day ActionParsnip
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> hi miss_ubuntu
[09:38] <miss_ubuntu> Question : Quick file search, ONLY in file names ,indexed , through LENS in unity  or some other method. possible??
[09:39] <fasta> Humans look like smurfs in Youtube Flash videos. Other videos look OK. Any idea?
[09:40] <miss_ubuntu> Fasta u can increase the video resolution on youtube for better quality
[09:40] <fasta> miss_ubuntu: smurfs like in 'blue'.
[09:40] <miss_ubuntu> ActionParsnip what tool do u use for searching only in filenames?
[09:40] <fasta> miss_ubuntu: the colors are all wrong (there is a lack of red, I think)
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> miss_ubuntu: locate
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> miss_ubuntu: you'll need to run:  sudo updatedb   first
[09:41] <miss_ubuntu> fasta , is ur monitor ok?
[09:41] <fasta> miss_ubuntu: I already said that other videos work fine.
[09:41] <dubey> I have setup RAID10 with 1TB of 8 volumes on Ubuntu 10.04 (Kernel 2.6.32-317-ec2) and md  v2.6.7.1; I am facing system freezing issue
[09:41] <fasta> miss_ubuntu: I suppose I could even download the exat same video to verify.
[09:41] <miss_ubuntu> ActionParsnip locate is not as good as Everything.exe in windows
[09:42] <miss_ubuntu> fasta have u tried any other browser?
[09:42] <fasta> miss_ubuntu: no
[09:42] <miss_ubuntu> fasta plz do :)
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> miss_ubuntu: how, updatedb makes a database of the files, so the search is instantaneous
[09:43] <dubey> I also noticed that system CPU load continue to go up and one of the volume from array's ioload is 100% and avgqu = 100%+
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> dubey: is the ram healthy?
[09:43] <dubey> 16/32 GB RAM
[09:44] <dubey> rest volumes has not activity all 0
[09:44] <miss_ubuntu> ActionParsnip can we customize locate to search only in particular directory?
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> miss_ubuntu: it's like searching a text file, its that fast, you can also grep the output and run commands on the output which windows can't do natively
[09:44] <miss_ubuntu> ActionParsnip can we customize locate to INDEX only in particular directory?
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> miss_ubuntu: to search a particular directory you'd need to grep, the database is ALL files
[09:45] <miss_ubuntu> ActionParsnip i wish u have used Everything.exe
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> miss_ubuntu: locate is a lot more powerful due to text streams in UNIX
[09:45] <fasta> ActionParsnip: wrong
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> fasta: just saying 'wrong' means nothing
[09:45] <fasta> miss_ubuntu: locate has a configuration file.
[09:45] <iceroot> miss_ubuntu: --prunefs='path...'
[09:46] <iceroot> miss_ubuntu: which is for exclude see also "man updatedb"
[09:46] <fasta> ActionParsnip: I had to stop you from creating yet more wrong statements.
[09:46] <cek> are there any ready livecds with ubuntu? i don't need desktop
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> fasta: then try saying that, gives 'wrong' some context
[09:46] <fasta> miss_ubuntu: there are also desktop search products on Linux.
[09:47] <dubey> also i am using jfs filesystem
[09:47] <miss_ubuntu>  fasta e.g which product do u use?
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> fasta: wouldn't you say?
[09:47] <fasta> miss_ubuntu: e.g. Beagle, but I don't know what's currently the best one.
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> fasta: there is no 'best'
[09:48] <miss_ubuntu> ActionParsnip how do u run updatedb instantaneously updated whenever a new file is created?
[09:48] <Blackshirt> What definition of best?
[09:48] <miss_ubuntu> ActionParsnip thanks for the help by the way
[09:48] <waltreed> Hi all, I've just installed a 12.04 Server which installed Samba4 - Samba4 errors out and I really want samba3 anyway, yet can't seem to locate 3 in the repository. Is there an alternate repository I need to enable in sources.list to get Samba 3 instead of 4?
[09:48] <dubey> and checkarray cron doesn't finish in even for weeks
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> miss_ubuntu: you could cron a job
[09:48] <miss_ubuntu> Blackshirt definition of best is : it should be as good as windows tool : Everything.exe
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> waltreed: why samba4?
[09:48] <fasta> ActionParsnip: sure there is.
[09:49] <quixotedon> how to use aircrack-ng on 12.04?
[09:49] <miss_ubuntu> ActionPtarsnip oh yes cron is always good ,
[09:49] <fasta> ActionParsnip: and I know what you mean, I just think it's an extremely annoying response.
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> fasta: for the individual, maybe. but an absolute best doesn't exist
[09:49] <PsykoMantis> dwnld backtrack lol
[09:49] <waltreed> Samba4 was all that was available and it's pre-alpha quality at best. I really want 3.
[09:49] <fasta> ActionParsnip: normal people like miss_ubuntu don't want to hear that crap.
[09:49] <miss_ubuntu> ActionParsnip and fasta bundle of thnaks
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> !info samba | waltreed
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> fasta: keep it family friendly please
[09:50] <dubey> any suggestion
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> quixotedon: I'd ask in the backtrack channel
[09:50] <waltreed> When I apt-cache search for samba, I don't see 3.6.3. Only the samba 4 packages.
[09:50] <fasta> ActionParsnip: normal people and miss_ubuntu don't want to hear that feces.
[09:51] <robgraves> fasta: lol
[09:51] <miss_ubuntu> fasta and ActionParsnip ... comeon guys why are u fighting ?
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> fasta: there is no best, it doesn't exist
[09:51] <dontknow> what is the program remove command, equal to software center job?
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> fasta: it's like asking what the best browser is, there isn't one. You will only get opinions
[09:51] <iceroot> waltreed: even on 12.10 there is samba (3) in the repos
[09:51] <quixotedon> ActionParsnip: thanks dude, seems that everyone's taking the aircrack-ng issue up.. :)
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> dontknow: sudo apt-get --purge remove packagename
[09:51] <iceroot> waltreed: apt-cache show samba
[09:52] <fasta> ActionParsnip: if people ask that question, yon, you have to understand why y are asking it.
[09:52] <miss_ubuntu> Question: ssh / proxy / socks tunneling practice . does one need more than one laptop for that? is there any free ssh accounts out there to practice online?
[09:52] <dontknow> ActionParsnip, this will do the same job what software center does?
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> fasta: Then present options and let them explore
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> dontknow: yeah it will remove the package and residual configs
[09:52] <dontknow> ActionParsnip, thanks
[09:53] <fasta> ActionParsnip: I did. You on the other hand started whining about theoretical things like defining best.
[09:53] <iceroot> fasta: #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:53] <miss_ubuntu> fasta ... what os do u use?
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> dontknow: you can remove unneeded deps with:  sudo apt-get --purge autoremove     after if you desire
[09:53] <quixotedon> ActionParsnip: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/i386/aircrack-ng (it's deleted due to unmaintained status ??)
[09:53] <fasta> miss_ubuntu: I use multiple.
[09:54] <yalu> the user accounts module in system settings doens't allow to reset a user's password. how do you do this? (except for command line)
[09:54] <miss_ubuntu> fasta multiple on one latop ... do u use virtual machines? which software ? vmware? i try to use vmware on ubuntu for xp but its takes a lot of resources
[09:54] <dontknow> ActionParsnip, that command will remove all unnecessary dependencies?
[09:54] <miss_ubuntu> yalu why can't u use command line?
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> dontknow: yes, if you remove packages and it makes others not be needed, the autoremove command will remove them, saves space
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> miss_ubuntu: +1
[09:55] <iceroot> yalu: sudo passwd username
[09:56] <Mikey^> dontknow: also, you can purge the cofiguration files, though you wont save much space :)
[09:56] <miss_ubuntu> Question:  is there any free ssh accounts out there to practice tunneling online?
[09:56] <fasta> miss_ubuntu: I don't dual on laptops and I don't virtualize on laptops either.
[09:56] <belgianguy> anyone else having issues with Flash in 12.04
[09:56] <belgianguy> esp on YouTube
[09:56] <dubey> is it good to stop checkarray cron ?
[09:56] <fasta> belgianguy: yes
[09:56] <iceroot> !details | belgianguy
[09:56] <fasta> belgianguy: I get smurfs instead of people.
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> miss_ubuntu: tried virtualbox?
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> belgianguy: what issue do you get?
[09:57] <belgianguy> the video plays, but the marker of where the video is at that point in time does not update
[09:57] <miss_ubuntu> nops ActionParsnip is it better than vmware in terms of resource utiliztion?
[09:57] <dontknow> Mikey^, "sudo apt-get --purge remove packagename" this command doesn!t remove config files? if so what is the command for that?
[09:57] <belgianguy> unless I mouse over, it'll immedeatly update
[09:58] <belgianguy> same for the volume button
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> miss_ubuntu: its different, try it
[09:58] <iceroot> dontknow: it is removing conffiles
[09:58] <Mikey^> dontknow: sudo aptitude purge ~c
[09:58] <Mikey^> dontknow: there are many commands to do that though..
[09:58] <iceroot> dontknow: but "conffile" is a special term in debian packages and does not mean for example /home/username/.program/my.conf
[09:58] <belgianguy> I'm using chrome btw
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> miss_ubuntu: try setting fewer resources to the guest OS
[09:58] <miss_ubuntu> ACtionParsnip installing thanks
[09:58] <c0deMaster> how to permanently disable sound capturing?
[09:58] <iceroot> dontknow: a conffile must not be a text-file with configs
[09:58] <nawuko> heylukecarrier, some german here? i have a problem :D
[09:59] <fasta> I verified that .mp4 version of the file works. So, Youtube Flash version gives me blue people and Youtube Mp4 version with vlc works perfect.
[09:59] <iceroot> !de | nawuko
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> belgianguy: can you give a pastebin of the output of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'
[09:59] <fasta> Ubuntu didn't secretly replace it with gnash, did it?
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> we'll see
[10:00] <yalu> miss_ubuntu: well I use commandline all the time, but I'm researching LTSP for people who don't
[10:01] <dontknow> i wonder when canonical will release chromium 19
[10:01] <fasta> miss_ubuntu: another browser has the same problem, btw.
[10:01] <fasta> It's using the non-free flash.
[10:01] <miss_ubuntu_> hi guys which irc client do u use on ubuntu? does it automatically connects u to ur channels after internet is disconnected and connected again
[10:02] <iceroot> miss_ubuntu_: every client has a automaticly reconnect-option
[10:02] <dontknow> miss_ubuntu, xchat it connects auto
[10:02] <c0deMaster> how to permanently disable sound capturing?
[10:02] <iceroot> miss_ubuntu_: and asking what people are using is a bad idea, e.g. if i name "irssi"
[10:02] <quixotedon> miss_ubuntu_: i'm using empathy, yes, if you make it as an auto connect option
[10:02] <miss_ubuntu_> icroot i use xchat but it doesnt dontknow
[10:03] <miss_ubuntu_> thanks boys i use xchat but it doesnt seem to auto connect
[10:03] <dontknow> miss_ubuntu, at opening edit your favorite channel
[10:04] <dontknow> miss_ubuntu, edit and add #ubuntu
[10:04] <fasta> miss_ubuntu, ActionParsnip: it is this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/flashplugin-nonfree/+bug/968647
[10:04] <belgianguy> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/3Xz6RirY
[10:05] <miss_ubuntu_> thanks dontknow , fasta ActionParsnip
[10:05] <quixotedon> miss_ubuntu_: have you made the channel favorite?
[10:05] <quixotedon> :)
[10:05] <ItsMeLenny> WOW! finally i can watch youtube videos without people being blue, turn off video accell
[10:05] <Your_Dog> Mine didn't work that way, I had to do something with the config
[10:06] <Your_Dog> with flash inorder to remove the blue tint
[10:06] <fasta> ItsMeLenny: you had the same problem?
[10:06] <belgianguy> I don't have the smurf problem, but it seems it doesn't update it's user interface elements
  i have edited channels list and click autoconnect at startup
[10:06] <ItsMeLenny> fasta, yeah ive had it for months!
[10:06] <fasta> belgianguy: that sounds like a JavaScript problem.
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> belgianguy: that's not all of the command I gave....
[10:06] <quixotedon> miss_ubuntu_: great!! :)
[10:06] <ItsMeLenny> fasta, just disabled video accel just then
[10:07] <miss_ubuntu_> OMG there are so many ubuntu channels
[10:07] <belgianguy> ActionParsnip: oops, hang on
[10:07] <fasta> ItsMeLenny: which specific solution did you pick?
[10:07] <fasta> ItsMeLenny: never mind, I see what you did.
[10:07] <fasta> belgianguy: I would suggest you get Firefox from Mozilla directly and try again.
[10:08] <fasta> belgianguy: then you can see whether Ubuntu did anything wrong. Also use a clean profile.
[10:08] <anonymous> anyone here?
[10:09] <belgianguy> http://pastebin.com/Ry6iPtEt
[10:10] <Guest30565> ...
[10:10] <Guest30565> heloo
[10:10] <belgianguy> firefox doesn't have the problem
[10:10] <belgianguy> so then it's chrome acting up?
[10:11] <Bender_> in Ubuntu 10.10 my software center doesn't show up the item in each category, even if below i can see "1322 items available". I know it's an old distro but is the only that runs well in this laptop. Can you help me please?
[10:11] <Guest30565> guys...im new here...
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> belgianguy: try:  sudo dpkg -P flashplugin64-installer; sudo apt-get --purge remove flashplugin-installer
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> belgianguy: then enable the partner repo and install adobe-flashplugin
[10:14] <Advocated> Hi there, does anyone recommend any software that will burn .avi > dvd format(as high as possible)?
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> Advocated: devede is one option
[10:14] <kelvinella> Hi
[10:15] <Advocated> ActionParsnip, thanks, will download and try that
[10:15] <Blackshirt> quixotedon, you should join backtrack channel for something related pentest wakakakaka
[10:17] <kelvin911> hi
[10:17] <Blackshirt> Hi kelvin911
[10:17] <iceroot> which ubuntu-version was the first hybrid-iso so that dd on a usb-drive worked? 11.10 or 12.04?
[10:18] <kelvinella> Hi Blackshirt
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: 11.10 I believe.
[10:18] <CaptObvious> Hi, I've been googling this for a while and haven't been able to find any fix - I'm running ubuntu server 12.04 and I'm experiencing really slow downloads with wget (about 400KB/s), that a windows 7 machine on the same switch gets 10MB/s+ - any ideas?
[10:18] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: ok
[10:19] <CaptObvious> the ethernet controller on the machine is a Broadcom NetXtreme BCM5723
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> CaptObvious: what network chip are you using>
[10:19] <CaptObvious> ^
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> hehe
[10:19] <CaptObvious> great minds think alike :P
[10:20] <CaptObvious> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1735584.html <- that's pretty much my exact setup
[10:21] <CaptObvious> except I'm not using one of those dodgy powerline links, it's microserver->gigabit switch->cable modem
[10:21] <jazzaxe> re: LibreOffice  -   I'm trying to sort by date ascending but the date order is sorted by day number ie 1st Jan and 1st feb are listed side-by-side and 30th Jan appears at bottom of the list.  What am I doing wrong?!
[10:22] <dontknow> what is the daemon config file in ubuntu?
[10:22] <dontknow> i mean where is it?
[10:22] <dontknow> what is the name
[10:22] <Blackshirt> Dontknow, what you mean?
[10:22] <iceroot> dontknow: you mean the xinetd?
[10:23] <Blackshirt> What daemon you mean?
[10:23] <dontknow> Blackshirt, iceroot, i mean, for example ufw, network etc... starts at baoot, where is the configuration file for that?
[10:23] <dontknow> *boot
[10:23] <Mikey^> dontknow: /etc/rc2.d/
[10:24] <dontknow> in arch it is in /etc/rc.conf for example
[10:24] <Blackshirt> Dontknow, look at /etc/init or /etc/init.d
[10:25] <dontknow> Blackshirt, Mikey^  but what file?
[10:25] <dontknow> i will give you example from arch
[10:25] <llutz> dontknow: there is no single file controlling this. look at http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/  to understand how upstart works
[10:26] <Blackshirt> Dontknow, okey
[10:26] <llutz> !upstart | dontknow
[10:26] <dontknow> in arch, it is in /etc/rc.conf, in rc.conf there is a daemon section like this DAEMON=(dbus, ufw, network, ......) where is that file in ubuntu?
[10:26] <fasta> ItsMeLenny: where did you disable it exactly?
[10:26] <CaptObvious> no clues on my networking issue?
[10:26] <Mikey^> dontknow: /etc/init.d/rc
[10:26] <Mikey^> dontknow: we dont have that
[10:27] <Mikey^> dontknow: its based on the runlevel and the starting letter in /etc/rcN.d, where N is your runlevel
[10:27] <dontknow> Mikey^, so what we have lol?
[10:27] <belgianguy> ActionParsnip: thanks
[10:27] <belgianguy> Ithink it's fixed now
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> belgianguy: all ok now?
[10:27] <Mikey^> dontknow: take a look at /etc/init.d/rc
[10:27] <belgianguy> ActionParsnip: yes :)
[10:27] <llutz> Mikey^: its not runlevel based since upstart, its dependency driven
[10:28] <fasta> CaptObvious: wget downloads via http. You are testing wrong.
[10:28] <Mikey^> llutz: yeah, true
[10:28] <llutz> !runlevel
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> belgianguy: sweet, that gives 64bit flash for your 64bit OS :)
[10:28] <fasta> CaptObvious: use ftp for example or use some program designed to test network issues (don't know any of the top of my head, but they do exist)
[10:28] <ItsMeLenny> fasta, right click on the google video and go into "settings"
[10:29] <Blackshirt> Dontknow, arch, i think adopt bsd style for init
[10:29] <CaptObvious> fasta - I'm downloading the same file via HTTP from my windows box and it's *much* faster
[10:29] <CaptObvious> so how am I testing wrong?
[10:29] <dontknow> Mikey^, had a look at it i don't think it is what i seek
[10:29] <Mikey^> ok
[10:30] <dontknow> Blackshirt, i just want to be sure if preload starting at boot
[10:31] <appi_uppi> can i upgrade my bios from version 1.04 to latest, i use acer aspire 5536
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> appi_uppi: there may be a dos app, or you may need windows
[10:32] <appi_uppi> ActionParsnip, i only run ubuntu
[10:32] <fasta> CaptObvious: because you should throw out all extra variables first.
[10:32] <Bender_> hello, any way to make ma 10.10 software center see the item in each category back again?
[10:32] <fasta> CaptObvious: perhaps all communication is slow.
[10:32] <fasta> CaptObvious: perhaps it's just your webserver.
[10:33] <CaptObvious> what's odd is local transfer is fine - just used iperf between 2 boxes on the local network and got 880mbit/s over gigabit
[10:33] <fasta> CaptObvious: in short, use the scientific method.
[10:33] <CaptObvious> *sigh*
[10:33] <fasta> CaptObvious: sigh what?
[10:33] <CaptObvious> I'm downloading the same file, from the same place with both boxes
[10:33] <CaptObvious> one is over 10MB/s, the other is 400kb/s
[10:33] <fasta> CaptObvious: now, so only now you can go on the next step.
[10:33] <zallx> can i update ? can i upgrade ? can i install vdr or yavdr ? ifso how to help it from exiting with error becuz of xbmc-live ?.? o_0
[10:33] <fasta> CaptObvious: the next step is to read the fine manual of your webserver.
[10:33] <zallx> apt
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> Bender_: Maverick is EOL dude, there are no repos
[10:34] <CaptObvious> I don't control the webserver
[10:34] <fasta> CaptObvious: for someone named CaptObvious that shouldn't be so hard.
[10:34] <CaptObvious> linode does
[10:34] <zallx> maybe synaptic
[10:34] <CaptObvious> and the webserver is obviously fine if I can pull down 10MB/s from my windows machine
[10:34] <fasta> CaptObvious: ok, well, you didn't actually say that.
[10:34] <CaptObvious> I did, several times
[10:35] <fasta> CaptObvious: no, you didn't.
[10:35] <fasta> CaptObvious: it was ambiguous.
[10:35] <CaptObvious> which part are you referring to?
[10:35] <fasta> CaptObvious: anyway, it's now clear.
[10:35] <zallx> E: xbmc-live: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 2
[10:35] <fasta> CaptObvious: wget by default tries to not attack a server either.
[10:35] <zallx> how to fix subprocesses
[10:35] <fasta> CaptObvious: so, perhaps it also does this for just a single download.
[10:36] <zallx> anyone ?
[10:36] <CaptObvious> fasta - I would assume google chrome tries not to attack a server either
[10:36] <fasta> CaptObvious: so, you could still try a different protocol.
[10:36] <CaptObvious> but okay
[10:36] <fasta> CaptObvious: i.e. try ftp.
[10:36] <fasta> CaptObvious: with e.g. filezilla.
[10:36] <Blackshirt> Zallk, purge first, and then try reinstall
[10:36] <CaptObvious> first I need to find a large file on an FTP server
[10:36] <zallx> k thkx
[10:37] <zallx> !addbutton synaptic purge
[10:37] <fasta> CaptObvious: no, you just do cat /dev/urandom > mybigfile
[10:37] <zallx> lol
[10:37] <CaptObvious> fasta - that would be at the wrong end
[10:37] <CaptObvious> I'm experiencing slow downloads
[10:37] <fasta> CaptObvious: no, it wouldn't.
[10:38] <fasta> CaptObvious: you have to do that at the server of course.
[10:38] <zallx> BlackshirtBay whats the fastest way tobe watching tv on ur phone ?
[10:38] <fasta> CaptObvious: you don't have shell access?
[10:38] <CaptObvious> my server is next to me
[10:38] <CaptObvious> it downloads slowly
[10:38] <CaptObvious> from the internet
[10:38] <zallx> and from lan ?
[10:38] <fasta> CaptObvious: you said it was on linode.
[10:38] <fasta> CaptObvious: you are really making no sense.
[10:38] <CaptObvious> no, linode host download speed files
[10:38] <CaptObvious> http://www.linode.com/speedtest/
[10:39] <CaptObvious> zallx - iperf throughput is fine on LAN
[10:39] <fasta> CaptObvious: I will stop playing this guess the question game. Next time you just write a coherent story on e.g. a paste site and then provide an URL to that.
[10:40] <fasta> CaptObvious: likely nobody has understood what exactly you said.
[10:40] <zallx> Setting up xbmc-live (2:11.0-pvr+p8~git20120428.6960449-0ubuntu1~stable75~oneiric) ...
[10:40] <zallx> sed: can't read /etc/uxlaunch/uxlaunch: No such file or directory
[10:40] <zallx> error in configure with apt
[10:40] <fasta> zallx: report it as a bug
[10:40] <matonka007> Hello, does anybody can help me?
[10:40] <zallx> lol
[10:40] <CaptObvious> I did write a coherent story
[10:41] <fasta> CaptObvious: no, you didn't.
[10:41] <zallx> its oneiric ... i dont have that i think
[10:41] <CaptObvious> I fail to see how it wasn't, but anyway
[10:41] <quixotedon> matonka007: type your questions straight away.. :)
[10:41] <CaptObvious> ftp is downloading now, but it doesn't give a realtime output
[10:41] <CaptObvious> so I need to wait until the file is done
[10:41] <fasta> CaptObvious: do you hear 5 people say that it was easy to understand?
[10:42] <CaptObvious> fasta - I see people reading multiple stories at once and making assumptions
[10:42] <fasta> CaptObvious: no, you don't. As such, it wasn't a coherent story.
[10:42] <fasta> CaptObvious: yes, because there is no coherent story.
[10:42] <CaptObvious> I mentioned "linode" once and then someone assumed that I said that my server was a linode, which I never said
[10:42] <CaptObvious> anyway, jesus, I'm not here for an argument, I'm here to get my problem solved
[10:42] <fasta> CaptObvious: which is an intelligent response.
[10:42] <fasta> CaptObvious: because it assumes that the information which is not specified is the most likely.
[10:43] <matonka007> I installed ubuntu 12.04 and after i have screen with,"out of range" and black screen with mouse, i cant do anything
[10:43] <CaptObvious> I mentioned linode directly after I said "I don't control the webserver"
[10:43] <LjL> fasta: yes, let's turn this place into a forum, with people pasting "stories" from URLs... no, that's not how it works ;)
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> matonka007: whay video chip do you use?
[10:43] <matonka007> Nvidia
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> matonka007: add the boot option: nouveau.blacklist=1
[10:43] <zallx> beheer@beheer-MS-7318:~$ vdr
[10:43] <zallx> vdr: can't access video directory /var/lib/video.00
[10:44] <CaptObvious> anyway, starting again: I'm experiencing slow download speeds (400KB/s) from the internet on an ubuntu server box, which a windows machine on the same network downloading the same file from the same place experiences over 10MB/s download speed.
[10:44] <CaptObvious> fasta - anything you'd like me to clarify there?
[10:44] <c0deMaster> how to permanently disable sound capturing?
[10:44] <CaptObvious> also, the ethernet controller on the machine is a Broadcom NetXtreme BCM5723
[10:45] <matonka007> I cant edit the boot option, because it shows my bios logo and after the, "out of range"
[10:45] <celthunder> c0deMaster: remove your sound card
[10:45] <fasta> Example: I am doing a speedtest on url linode.com/dontcare on Ubuntu 11.10 and Windows 7. On Windows 7 I get 100MB/s when using IE.exe and on Linux I get 400KB/s. My hardware is a <whatever you just said>
[10:45] <CaptObvious> I've tried using iperf between 2 local machines and the throughput is fine, it's just out to the internet that it has an issue
[10:45] <CaptObvious> fasta - that's what I just said, yes
[10:45] <fasta> CaptObvious: you should have said that the very first time.
[10:45] <CaptObvious> perhaps you need to write a web app with form fields and have people fill that out instead of conversing?
[10:45] <CaptObvious> you could call it a "forum"
[10:46] <CaptObvious> you'd lose the realtime aspect though, which would be a shame
[10:46] <unkn-error> I have installed ubuntu IN a usb stick, with ext4 but it's running so slowww, why? If I make the stick with unetbootlin it is faster altrought it is running under some kind of "transparent decompression (squasfs)"? Can be ubuntu installed IN the stick and be faster like it is if I when it live FROM usb?
[10:46] <CaptObvious> anyway, the FTP transfer is still going, on the windows machine it would have finished by now
[10:46] <celthunder> CaptObvious: id much rather be in irc than on a forum.
[10:46] <CaptObvious> celthunder - me too
[10:47] <matonka007> What i must do to edit boot preferences?
[10:47] <fasta> CaptObvious: apt-get install bwm-ng && bwm-ng
[10:47] <fasta> CaptObvious: does it confirm the slow download speed?
[10:47] <LjL> CaptObvious: for what is worth, your question seemed pretty coherent to me, perhaps not completely comprehensive but that's what asking stuff is for.
[10:47] <CaptObvious> LjL - thank you
[10:48] <CaptObvious> ftp did 391.66KB/s
[10:48] <fasta> CaptObvious: you should also look at top and report whether it uses all yoru CPU.
[10:49] <matonka007> Sorry Im on android :-(
[10:49] <matonka007> I have the broken ubuntu infront of me
[10:49] <fasta> CaptObvious: you should also try to put another NIC in it if the CPU usage is low.
[10:50] <CaptObvious> 400kb/s from the linode speed test site with wget, 2% CPU usage
[10:50] <nlici> my computer does not read the Turkish subtitles when i watch film what do i have to do in order the computer does show the Turkish characters on the subtitles please advice me what to do  thanks in advance for your help
[10:50] <CaptObvious> I have no slots for another NIC, and I've just had windows on this machine and it was fine on there
[10:50] <fasta> CaptObvious: and you had fast lan speeds also from the Linux machine?
[10:51] <CaptObvious> yeah, I ran iperf and got 880mbit/sec through gigE
[10:51] <fasta> CaptObvious: perhaps you have some bandwidth limiter running?
[10:51] <fasta> CaptObvious: it might be that you had forgotten about that.
[10:51] <CaptObvious> nope, I've just wiped the machine and put ubuntu on it this morning.  it had windows 7 on it before and was fine
[10:51] <CaptObvious> so there's no limit at the router level
[10:51] <khmerog> whats everyones favorite movie?
[10:52] <fasta> CaptObvious: also try a different speedtest website.
[10:52] <khmerog> opps.. sorry wrong chat room
[10:52] <CaptObvious> I've tried setting the MTU too, tried 1492 and 1500
[10:52] <CaptObvious> no dice
[10:52] <matonka007> Please help me :'(
[10:53] <adil> iam new to linux & i have installed ubuntu 12.04 on my pc
[10:53] <CaptObvious> fasta - I've tried 4 or 5 now, the maximum I've seen after setting the MTU to 1500 is 700KB/s
[10:53] <CaptObvious> (for reference, my connection tops out at 12.5MB/s)
[10:53] <adil> and installed mysql how to start it run my commands ,so help me
[10:54] <CaptObvious> adil - mysql -u root -p
[10:54] <CaptObvious> then it'll ask for the root password that you specified during the mysql install
[10:54] <nlici> my computer does not read the Turkish subtitles when i watch film what do i have to do in order the computer does show the Turkish characters on the subtitles please advice me what to do  thanks in advance for your help
[10:54] <matonka007> I have blackscreen after install ubuntu 12.04, anybody can help? Thanks
[10:55] <adil> thank you
[10:55] <CaptObvious> matonka007 - are you using an HDTV as a monitor for the machine?
[10:56] <CaptObvious> I ask because I am too and mine doesn't support whichever resolution is used between POST and the framebuffer kicking in
[10:56] <CaptObvious> so you may have to hook it up to a normal monitor to sort it out
[10:56] <fasta> CaptObvious: you could try making a tunnel connection to your windows machine and internet via that.
[10:57] <fasta> CaptObvious: oh, sorry you didn't have two machines.
[10:57] <matonka007> I have led LG 1920*1680
[10:57] <CaptObvious> fasta - that'd defeat the object of this box.  I might have to give up and just put windows back on it
[10:57] <CaptObvious> I do, I just have this microserver so my desktop doesn't have to be on all the time
[10:57] <fasta> CaptObvious: I meant just as a test; it sounds kind of ridiculous.
[10:57] <matonka007> Now i see the login screen with my name
[10:57] <CaptObvious> that's good then matonka007
[10:58] <CaptObvious> it sounds like your TV doesn't support the resolution that it's using for the console
[10:58] <CaptObvious> fasta - my other machine is a windows machine so it'll take a bit of fudging to get an SSH tunnel through to it
[10:58] <CaptObvious> something to try after I've slept I think
[10:58] <fasta> CaptObvious: otherwise I am out of ideas. If your LAN works, then your Internet should also work at that speed.
[10:58] <CaptObvious> hmm
[10:58] <matonka007> What I must do now? When i login it shows the black screen again
[10:59] <fasta> CaptObvious: I know one other test.
[10:59] <CaptObvious> matonka007 - plug it into a proper monitor
[10:59] <fasta> CaptObvious: you could start multiple speed tests at the same time.
[10:59] <CaptObvious> in /etc/network/interfaces I have it set as static, what's the "network" parameter for?  I have it set to 10.0.0.0
[10:59] <CaptObvious> fasta - ah, to see if it's a per-connection issue?
[10:59] <fasta> CaptObvious: ok, it might be another thing.
[10:59] <matonka007> Im now logged in into the Ubuntu 2D :-)
[10:59] <fasta> CaptObvious: you should set your IP address manually to the right address.
[11:00] <fasta> CaptObvious: or set it via DHCP.
[11:00] <CaptObvious> it is set to the right address
[11:00] <fasta> CaptObvious: if you set it to the same address as your windows machine, you get a nightmware.
[11:00] <matonka007> I must install the drivers?
[11:00] <fasta> CaptObvious: which address is it?
[11:00] <fasta> CaptObvious: and which address does your windows machine have?
[11:00] <fasta> CaptObvious: if you think 'dude, I really know that', just say that.
[11:01] <fasta> CaptObvious: otherwise go with the parallel speed test.
[11:01] <CaptObvious> the microserver is 10.0.0.3, static
[11:01] <CaptObvious> the desktop is 82.18.59.209 DHCP
[11:01] <CaptObvious> DHCP range is 100-199
[11:01] <fasta> CaptObvious: huh
[11:01] <fasta> CaptObvious: then they are not on the same lan.
[11:01] <matonka007> The Nvidia drivers is already instaled, where is the problem?
[11:01] <CaptObvious> yeah they are, same subnet
[11:02] <fasta> CaptObvious: 82.18 is your external IP
[11:02] <CaptObvious> okay, I'm getting 1-2MB/s running 2 in parallel
[11:02] <fasta> CaptObvious: the Windows machine must also have an address like 10.0.0.X.
[11:02] <CaptObvious> it is
[11:02] <CaptObvious> 82.18.59.209
[11:02] <fasta> CaptObvious: no.
[11:02] <fasta> CaptObvious: that's your external address.
[11:02] <CaptObvious> no, that's my internal address
[11:03] <CaptObvious> my external IP is 82.18....
[11:03] <LjL> CaptObvious: err, that's what you pasted
[11:03] <CaptObvious> LjL - huh?
[11:03] <fasta> CaptObvious: coherent story... please
[11:03] <CaptObvious> fasta - I don't think your questions make sense
[11:03] <fasta> CaptObvious: 82.* is not an internal address.
 CaptObvious: and which address does your windows machine have?
[11:03] <LjL> CaptObvious: you pasted 82.18.59.209, which really looks like an external address, and you just confirmed it
[11:03] <CaptObvious> did you mean internal or external?
[11:04] <CaptObvious> I didn't paste anything
[11:04] <fasta> CaptObvious: 10.* looks like an internal address.
[11:04] <CaptObvious> it *is*
[11:04] <CaptObvious> right, stop
[11:04] <fasta> CaptObvious: 82.* is NOT
[11:04] <CaptObvious> I know this
[11:04] <CaptObvious> just stop
[11:04] <CaptObvious> you asked: <fasta> CaptObvious: and which address does your windows machine have?
[11:04] <fasta> CaptObvious: you didn't say that.
[11:04] <CaptObvious> did you mean internal or external?
[11:04] <FloodBot1> CaptObvious: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:05] <fasta> CaptObvious: internal of course.
[11:05] <CaptObvious> and I answered with internal IPs
 the microserver is 10.0.0.3, static
 the desktop is 82.18.59.209 DHCP
[11:05] <fasta> CaptObvious: no... you did not.
[11:05] <CaptObvious> scroll up
[11:05] <CaptObvious> and look
[11:05] <fasta> CaptObvious: 82.* is not an internal address.
[11:05] <CaptObvious> fasta - you were the first one to even type 82.*
[11:05] <LjL> CaptObvious: [13:02:35] <CaptObvious> 82.18.59.209 [13:02:50] <fasta> CaptObvious: that's your external address. [13:02:59] <CaptObvious> no, that's my internal address
[11:06] <fasta> CaptObvious: no, I was not.
[11:06] <CaptObvious> one second
[11:06] <fasta> CaptObvious: I wrote the literal string 82.* first.
[11:06] <CaptObvious> yes, one second
[11:06] <fasta> CaptObvious: but it expands to your IP address obviously.
[11:07] <fasta> CaptObvious: as such, you introduced a string of text starting with 82 first.
[11:07] <spacebug-> can anyone tell me what the plus signs comes from? http://pastebin.com/1PnwNU8v   they have not always been there when using sv_SE.UTF-8  If I use 'date +%c' they are not there.
[11:07] <fasta> For someone named CaptObvious lots isn't obvious to you.
[11:07] <CaptObvious> how many times do I need to say "one second"?
[11:07] <CaptObvious> http://i.imgur.com/Zp8bt.png
[11:07] <CaptObvious> that's a screenshot of that section of my IRC client
[11:07] <LjL> CaptObvious: ... that's not what we saw.
[11:08] <zallx> so vdr where are we ?
[11:08] <CaptObvious> yeah, that's what's confusing me
[11:08] <CaptObvious> I haven't even had my external IP in my clipboard
[11:09] <fasta> CaptObvious: then how come that we have it?
[11:09] <matonka007> I can login only to ubuntu 2D :-(
[11:09] <CaptObvious> I have no idea :(
[11:09] <CaptObvious> that's quite worrying
[11:09] <zallx> anyone know about vdr and howto ?
[11:09] <fasta> CaptObvious: perhaps you should go to a mental institution?
[11:09] <LjL> fasta: that's uncalled for
[11:09] <CaptObvious> fasta - the screenshot clearly showed I didn't put my external IP into the channel
[11:09] <zallx> fasta: thank u ... allready in one
[11:09] <CaptObvious> when you guys saw it
[11:10] <fasta> CaptObvious: no, it does not.
[11:10] <fasta> CaptObvious: you said it earlier.
[11:10] <crazypete> I'm looking for a lightweight texteditor that has no menu or other clutter in fullscreen mode. Anyone know something like that?
[11:10] <fasta> CaptObvious: at <your hour>:02
[11:10] <CaptObvious> I don't have timestamps on
[11:10] <fasta> crazypete: emacs can do that :)
[11:10] <CaptObvious> but you have it directly before me saying "no, that's my internal address"
[11:10] <CaptObvious> which is on that screenshot
[11:11] <fasta> CaptObvious: I am going to go with either mental or trolling now.
[11:11] <fasta> CaptObvious: you have had your chance.
[11:11] <CaptObvious> neither, I'm genuinely confused.
[11:11] <crazypete> fasta, but it is the opposite of lightweight
[11:11] <CaptObvious> anyway, it doesn't really matter that much
[11:11] <fasta> crazypete: I disagree.
[11:11] <crazypete> I try to remove the menu in leafpad but no luck
[11:11] <fasta> crazypete: try to start it emacs -nw
[11:11] <CaptObvious> the internal IPs are right, they're on the same subnet
[11:12] <fasta> crazypete: it stars crazy fast
[11:12] <fasta> crazypete: you just have to disable a few things.
[11:12] <fasta> crazypete: like the display of the menu bar, etc.
[11:12] <fasta> crazypete: I run it exactly like you describe.
[11:12] <LjL> CaptObvious: perhaps you have an auto-replace in mIRC for those IPs, for some reason?
[11:13] <crazypete> fasta, apt says it is huge! :)
[11:13] <fasta> crazypete: alias nano='emacs -nw' here
[11:13] <CaptObvious> LjL - do you mind pastebinning your log please?
[11:13] <feeze> I'm trying to install a package from a repo that I added to my sources.list file, but apt-get keeps trying to install an older version from the ubuntu repos.  how do I specify that I want the newer version from the added repo?
[11:13] <fasta> crazypete: nano was my previous command for a quick edit.
[11:13] <CaptObvious> maybe if I see the conversation from your side I can see why fasta seems to be so angry with me
[11:13] <fasta> crazypete: do you want something that runs in X?
[11:14] <crazypete> fasta, I would prefere that
[11:14] <fasta> crazypete: well, Emacs also runs in X.
[11:14] <fasta> crazypete: otherwise gedit.
[11:14] <fasta> crazypete: gedit and kate are sort of for people who don't want to learn a real editor.
[11:15] <foreverglory> hello every
[11:15] <LjL> CaptObvious: http://paste.ubuntu.com/997178/ - the logs will also appear in about 45 minutes on http://irclogs.ubuntu.com
[11:15] <kevin> heyup
[11:15] <CaptObvious> thanks LjL
[11:15] <crazypete> fasta, I am one of those people I guess
[11:15] <fasta> crazypete: are you just a user or an aspiring developer?
[11:15] <crazypete> How do I kill bottom stuff and menu in fullscreen emacs. Started it wit -nv
[11:16] <kevin> just trying out artistx
[11:16] <CaptObvious> LjL - what IP do you see here?  82.18.59.209
[11:16] <crazypete> I'm writing oldfashion c
[11:16] <LjL> CaptObvious: 82.18.59.209
[11:16] <fasta> crazypete: for C, you can better get some real IDE.
[11:16] <LjL> CaptObvious: are you using a bouncer (irc proxy) by any chance?
[11:16] <CaptObvious> nope, but mIRC might auto-translate it
[11:16] <CaptObvious> LjL - http://i.imgur.com/Y7I98.png
[11:16] <fasta> CaptObvious: also friends don't let other friends use mIRC.
[11:16] <LjL> CaptObvious: would be weird, but i guess it's possible
[11:17] <matanya_> how can I make outgoing calls using empathy on ubuntu with my own sip server?incoming calls work well
[11:17] <CaptObvious> fasta - after how you've treated me today I wouldn't really call you a friend
[11:17] <crazypete> emacs is even worse. now I need to remove both its clutter and the clutter of lxterm
[11:17] <fasta> CaptObvious: uhm, I put more time in you than anyone else here.
[11:17] <CaptObvious> you spent a lot of it berating me for something I had no control over
[11:17] <CaptObvious> but yeah
[11:17] <fasta> crazypete: Emacs is not worse.
[11:18] <fasta> crazypete: you just don't want to learn how it works.
[11:18] <fasta> crazypete: which is OK, but Emacs is a GREAT editor.
[11:18] <chu> crazypete: If you're willing to give it some time, I could PM you how to use it.
[11:18] <fasta> crazypete: in #emacs they want to answer your questions.
[11:19] <lJ6il> Hello there. I'm under Ubuntu and i installed vim-scripts package. I'd like to activate supertab plugin. How can i do this? Adding a line in .vimrc ?
[11:19] <fasta> crazypete: but you should do C-h t first, I think.
[11:19] <fasta> crazypete: that starts the basic tutorial.
[11:19] <LjL> CaptObvious: i don't have a Windows machine handy to test this on. a cursory Google search of "mIRC translate internal IP" didn't show much. if i were you, i'd test this with another client, i don't like the looks of this
[11:20] <CaptObvious> LjL - yeah, I was googling it too
[11:20] <CaptObvious> I also asked in dalnet #mirc
[11:20] <CaptObvious> but that's a *stupid* feature if it is one
[11:20] <LjL> agreed
[11:20] <CaptObvious> but to be honest, I'm hoping it is an mIRC feature
[11:20] <LjL> CaptObvious: it might be done to facilitate DCC transfers, but i don't see why it would happen outside of one
[11:20] <CaptObvious> if it's not mIRC doing it then I have bigger issues :P
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> CaptObvious: do native apps work ok?
[11:21] <CaptObvious> ActionParsnip - sorry?
[11:22] <LjL> ActionParsnip, he's on Windows. he was asking about something else, then he experienced something strange
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> CaptObvious: mirc is a windows irc client...do the irc clients available in the software centre ok, like xchat, pidgin etc
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> LjL: windows? shouldn't that be in ##windows ...
[11:22] <LjL> ActionParsnip: namely when he pastes his internal IP in here, the external one shows up instead
[11:22] <CaptObvious> ActionParsnip - I'm in here for a different issue
[11:23] <LjL> ActionParsnip: that wasn't his original question. we got sidetracked by this strange occurrence.
[11:23] <CaptObvious> this one just cropped up in the mean time
[11:23] <CaptObvious> anyway, back to my original issue - concurrent downloads seem to get 400-700KB/s each
[11:23] <CaptObvious> which is odd, it seems to be a limit per connection
[11:23] <fasta> CaptObvious: so, now don't use wget, but use something else.
[11:23] <CaptObvious> I tried with ftp too, same deal
[11:24] <fasta> CaptObvious: e.g. curl or an actual browser.
[11:24] <CaptObvious> from a different server
[11:24] <CaptObvious> well, as far as an actual browser goes, I have lynx I suppose :P
[11:25] <fasta> CaptObvious: you could also get rid of the router in between, btw.
[11:25] <CaptObvious> if the router was the issue, the windows box would be suffering too
[11:25] <fasta> CaptObvious: I know what you said before and still it could be the issue.
[11:25] <fasta> CaptObvious: you only know for 99.8% sure that it's not that.
[11:25] <fasta> CaptObvious: not 100%.
[11:26] <fasta> Statistics made up, as usual.
[11:26] <CaptObvious> lynx is doing 470KB/s
[11:26] <ikonia> CaptObvious: what network card is in your linux machine ?
[11:27] <fasta> ikonia: read the backlog
[11:27] <CaptObvious> broadcom BCM5723
[11:27] <mosno> um, how do i delete a launcher from the gnome classic panel?
[11:27] <CaptObvious> there's a lot of backlog, most of it not relavent
[11:27] <ikonia> CaptObvious: have you considered that the kernel module for the BCM card is just "weak" as it's reverse engineered ?
[11:27] <ikonia> (in comparison to the Windows native driver)
[11:28] <CaptObvious> ikonia - I did think that, but I tried l
[11:28] <CaptObvious> iperf*
[11:28] <CaptObvious> between 2 machines on the lan, it puts 880mbit/s through
[11:28] <ikonia> CaptObvious: so on your lan you get solid performance ?
[11:28] <CaptObvious> it seems so, I don't have samba or anything set up yet, it's a clean install
[11:29] <CaptObvious> just throwing up IIS now so I can try an HTTP transfer
[11:29] <ikonia> CaptObvious: so you only experience a weaker performance with requests out onto the public internet
[11:29] <CaptObvious> it appears so at the moment
[11:29] <D[4]ni> when i try to load the equalizer plugin for rhythmbox, it tells me this: http://pastebin.com/y4BqVQFB
[11:30] <D[4]ni> how to fix that? :<
[11:31] <ikonia> CaptObvious: just thinking, I'll be with you in a moment or two
[11:31] <CaptObvious> yep, LAN HTTP transfer is putting through 21MB/s
[11:31] <CaptObvious> which is slower than I'd like, but I can live with that
[11:32] <ikonia> CaptObvious: curious test, do a traceroute to goolge.com or something like that, is there one hop that is obviously slower/where slow down begins
[11:33] <D[4]ni> meh. "ERROR:root:Could not find any typelib for GConf" seems to be a common error
[11:33] <zallx> how do i add ? ppa:hotzenplotz5/ppa  ?
[11:33] <CaptObvious> does wget save to a temporary location before moving the completed file to the location you specified to the download or does it just write straight to the destination file?
[11:33] <ikonia> CaptObvious: think it writes to $cwd/$name.tmp than commits to $cwd/$name
[11:33] <zallx> CaptObvious: in first execution cycle everything gets writing and send
[11:34] <CaptObvious> right, because I'm saving to /dev/null, so disk speed won't be a factor
[11:34] <zallx> how do i add ? ppa:hotzenplotz5/ppa  ?
[11:34] <ikonia> CaptObvious: try the traceroute test, I'm curious to if there is anything obvious
[11:35] <D[4]ni> zallx, apt-add-repository
[11:35] <CaptObvious> zalbisser - sudo add-apt-repository ppa:hotzenplotz5
[11:35] <CaptObvious> ikonia - nothing unusual on the traceroute
[11:35] <zvacet> zallx: see http://blog.launchpad.net/ppa/how-to-add-a-ppa-to-ubuntu
[11:35] <zallx> nothing but the fact they changed utp with modcable ... nomore own router incoming call divertions
[11:36] <zallx> not a key ID: skipping
[11:37] <MaxDeMoN> good morning i'm a beginner in ubuntu and need a simple and easy why to install postfix server i have noip domain :)
[11:37] <zvacet> zallx:  can xou give link of that ppa
[11:37] <zallx> http://blog.mymediasystem.net/avchd/hdtv-with-karmic-koala/
[11:38] <zvacet> zallx:  karmic is not supported any more
[11:38] <zallx> i know im oneiric
[11:38] <zallx> but cant seem to add that what they say in that link
[11:38] <CaptObvious> I've got it up to around about 1MB/s by dropping the txqueuelen to 0
[11:38] <ikonia> CaptObvious: so is performance poor from hop one i na traceroute
[11:39] <CaptObvious> ikonia - nope, all hops are fine
[11:39] <zallx> token ring
[11:39] <ikonia> CaptObvious: ok, so performance in the routing to destination is good, just the actual data transfer is poor, correct
[11:39] <CaptObvious> correct
[11:39] <ikonia> interesting
[11:39] <CaptObvious> it bursts at about 1MB/s, then drops down slowly and hovers at 500kb/s or so
[11:40] <zvacet> zallx: did you tried with adding line in source list replace karmic with oneiric
[11:41] <MaxDeMoN> good morning i'm a beginner in ubuntu and need a simple and easy why to install postfix server i have noip domain :)
[11:41] <mosno> why can't i see gnote or rhythmbox in my GNOME Classic notifcation area?
[11:41] <ikonia> MaxDeMoN: open the package manager, search for postfix, click install
[11:41] <SolarisBoy> are you going to use it locally MaxDeMoN ? installing it easy
[11:41] <shawny78> Anyone here setup an SSH 'VPN' Tunnel?    I can get to the point where I can reach my SSH servers IPs but I can't reach the routers that are connected to it
[11:41] <SolarisBoy> simply apt-get install it, or whatever is comfortable
[11:42] <zallx> k thkx zvacet
[11:42] <MaxDeMoN> SolarisBoy,  locally and i wanna receive email from external providers too :) thanx
[11:42] <zallx> sudo apt-add-repository ppa:hotzenplotz5/ppa
[11:42] <SolarisBoy> shawny78: you mean a tunnel? ssh -L port:<ip>:port user@host
[11:43] <MaxDeMoN> SolarisBoy,  i have a domain name from noip free and i can set MX line on it
[11:43] <SolarisBoy> MaxDeMoN hmm - ISPs generally block port 25 - but ok
[11:43] <SolarisBoy> MaxDeMoN:  ahh ok - so your setup to receive you saying?
[11:43] <shawny78> Solaris: that is it.  only the how-to I was following was saying use ssh -w 0:0 user@host
[11:43] <deejay31> Oh yes, I finished migrating my stuff from centos to ubuntu
[11:43] <dontknow> using ati mobility hd2400 with official ati driver, it gives poor video quality, i mean videos hang, with open source driver i had no problem. i tried every output it just hang out
[11:44] <MaxDeMoN> SolarisBoy,  yes  i wanna receive my email in something like that xxx@host.noip.org ... !
[11:44] <razvan86> hi... does ubuntu have support for digital pens ?
[11:44] <dontknow> do you have suggestions for me?
[11:44] <SolarisBoy> well if they aren't blocking and that IP postfix is running is available to the net directly or via translation
[11:44] <MaxDeMoN> SolarisBoy,  or i must buy a domain?
[11:44] <SolarisBoy> then it should work
[11:44] <SolarisBoy> if you have a domain - you need an MX
[11:45] <SolarisBoy> and that MX should point to your "postfix" if thats what you want handling mail for your domain
[11:45] <MaxDeMoN> SolarisBoy,  yes i have noip domain and i can set MX line
[11:45] <CaptObvious> you could just go the easy route, buy a cheap domain and use google apps :P
[11:45] <SolarisBoy> yea thats way easier
[11:45] <SolarisBoy> heh
[11:45] <MaxDeMoN> you have a link for that ? pls :
[11:45] <CaptObvious> I'm sure you can find google apps through google
[11:45] <SolarisBoy> MaxDeMoN: just register your domain with google apps or if you have one already subscribe to google apps
[11:45] <SolarisBoy> its automagic
[11:46] <SolarisBoy> once its verified the mail works - you just need to create users at your domain
[11:46] <MaxDeMoN> goople apps?
[11:46] <SolarisBoy> shawn78 needs more info on your goal
[11:46] <CaptObvious> then you don't need to run your own mail server or worry about your residential internet connection going down
[11:46] <MaxDeMoN> sorry but i dont understand   think i just need to install postfix and configurate
[11:46] <SolarisBoy> mean while im going to look at the manpage as im not familiar with -w 0:0
[11:46] <D[4]ni> meh. can't find a working equalizer for rhythmbox. one fail to load, one  doesn't even show up in the plugins list
[11:47] <scottj> what is the name of the feature that lets you navigate and run comands in the menus by typing the names of the entries?
[11:47] <shawny78> Here is the link I was following --->   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH_VPN
[11:47] <scottj> its some new unity type thing
[11:47] <SolarisBoy> ahh i see - it forwards from a tunnel device to another - shawny78 do you have actually two VPN tunnels?
[11:49] <gwd_> Please help me. I'm using fresh installed 12.04 but, no sound. It shows "dummy output" in sound config.
[11:49] <SolarisBoy> excuse thats incorrect - two seperate machines with a tunnel interface? shawny78
[11:49] <shawny78> The tunnel interface sets up fine.  I can ping both via internal IPs, I just can't reach out past the ssh server
[11:50] <SolarisBoy> ok
[11:51] <shawny78> ... I guess 'both' in this case is the ssh client and ssh server.
[11:51] <SolarisBoy> shawny78: you are using -w 0:0 have you tried any:any ? The devices may be specified by numerical ID or the keyword “any”
[11:51] <MaxDeMoN> SolarisBoy,  google apps is not free  :P me im searching to get it for free :D postfix
[11:51] <gwd_> Someone... help me please. I can't hear sound from 12.04.
[11:51] <SolarisBoy> MaxDeMoN: so your telling me im not using a free subscription right now for www.aaronpsamuel.com?
[11:51] <SolarisBoy> because i am
[11:51] <SolarisBoy> ..
[11:51] <NSAgent> MaxDeMoN: There is a free version
[11:52] <SolarisBoy> they don't make it very obvious - but it's there
[11:52] <dontknow> anyone here using ATI card with closed source river? videos are lagging, not smooth.
[11:52] <dontknow> *driver
[11:52] <SolarisBoy> MaxDeMoN: this has nothing to do with postfix anymore by the way =)
[11:52] <SolarisBoy> so don't scour the search with it
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> gwd_: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh
[11:52] <usr13> dontknow:  Better stick with OS driver.
[11:53] <MaxDeMoN> SolarisBoy,  maybe i'm a begigner so try to explain me easly LOL :D
[11:53] <SolarisBoy> MaxDeMoN: one second
[11:53] <NSAgent> MaxDeMoN: http://www.google.com/enterprise/apps/business/pricing.html
[11:53] <NSAgent> Click the free one.
[11:53] <SolarisBoy> grr
[11:53] <SolarisBoy> i was going to use lmgtfy
[11:53] <dontknow> usr13, ati drivers gives better 3d performance
[11:53] <SolarisBoy> haha
[11:53] <usr13> dontknow: than ____________ ?
[11:54] <dontknow> usr13, i am looking for a solution to solve video lagging, thats the only problem that i have
[11:55] <usr13> dontknow: Never mind.  Bottom line, to me, is that Nvidia usually is a better choice, (mostly because the driver issues are a bit less problematic).
[11:55] <usr13> dontknow: What display adapter is it?  Is it on-board?
[11:56] <dontknow> usr13, i know. i cant change laptop gpu. using mobility hd2400
[11:56] <usr13> dontknow: How much ram?
[11:56] <dontknow> usr13, for gpu 128
[11:56] <George_Calaway> Hello, is possible to mount VHD file in Ubuntu as normal HDD (like WIndows 7) ?
[11:57] <usr13> dontknow: How much physical RAM do you have in your system?
[11:57] <dontknow> usr13, 2gb
[11:57] <MaxDeMoN> NSAgent,  thanx ^^ but as i said to SolarisBoy  i'm a begigner and really i dont understand what are you talkinf forr :D i wanna just try to install a postfix server to try send and reception emails  by using my domain xxx.noip.org :D
[11:57] <usr13> dontknow:  What Desktop Enviornment are you using?
[11:57] <CaptObvious> new information regarding my download issue
[11:57] <dontknow> usr13, cinnamon
[11:57] <CaptObvious> I'm filing it under /dontcare
[11:57] <NSAgent> MaxDeMoN: Have you read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix ?
[11:57] <CaptObvious> sabnzbd is maxing out my connection which is all I was worried about, so happy for now
[11:58] <dontknow> usr13, but it doesn2t matter when using unity
[11:58] <D[4]ni> George_Calaway, http://bit.ly/JtXmat
[11:58] <dontknow> usr13, it also happens in unity
[11:58] <MaxDeMoN> NSAgent,  no but i will  now :D thanx ^^
[11:58] <usr13> dontknow: You might see how it works with xfce
[11:58] <IdleOne> !lmgtfy | D[4]ni
[11:59] <dontknow> usr13, i believe it wouldn't matter
[11:59] <gwd_> ActionParsnip: This is my output >> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=0d671aa52bc3d2d646265aefffbdf467f6274461
[11:59] <usr13> dontknow: You may be right.
[11:59] <killer> i get this message too much "internal error occured".....may be pangolin is not yet stable enough
[11:59] <D[4]ni> IdleOne, doesn't that help "newer users" to start googling things?
[12:00] <usr13> dontknow: What CPU is it?
[12:00] <zallx> precise ?
[12:00] <IdleOne> D[4]ni: no, lmgtfy links are rude and insulting, if you want to provide a link give a direct link to the solution.
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> gwd_: if you run: alsamixer    are all levels cranked and unmuted?
[12:00] <D[4]ni> that's your opinion.
[12:00] <LjL> D[4]ni: and it's the opinion of a channel op, so please respect it
[12:00] <dontknow> usr13, amd turionx2 using 64 bit ubuntu
[12:01] <D[4]ni> who should know he's an op when he doesn't have the @?
[12:01] <D[4]ni> and just started coming to this channel?
[12:01] <IdleOne> D[4]ni: assume we are all ops
[12:01] <gwd_> ActionParsnip: Not all. Master, Master M and PCM can ... others no.
[12:01] <dontknow> usr13, but videos were lagging in 32 bit too
[12:01] <LjL> D[4]ni: you know it's not just his opinion when an ubottu factoid is given to you, for starters.
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> gwd_: my sound troubleshooting sucks, that link is handy though
[12:02] <dontknow> usr13, i will try with vlc player now
[12:02] <usr13> dontknow: Wish I had some advise for you, but I really can't think of anything ATM.  Maybe someone else here will have something for you.  I have to go now.
[12:02] <dontknow> usr13, ok
[12:02] <usr13> dontknow: Good luck.  (And maybe someone else is following this thread and will have an idea...)
[12:02] <gwd_> Anyway, thanks for helping me, ActionParsnip .
[12:05] <zallx> i follow u
[12:06] <gwd_> ActionParsnip: I found "Dummy Output" in my sound settings. What's that?
[12:06] <atlee> ubuntu having a lot of server issues?
[12:08] <mosno> guys, i have a broken notification area in gnome classic. xchat shows fine, but gnote's icon is like a 1px wide slit. rhythmbox isn't to be seen. i can add another instance of notification area applet to no avail. rebooting doesn't work either. any ideas?
[12:08] <mosno> 12.04 LTS i386
[12:08] <atlee> mosno try booting into another DE
[12:08] <mosno> atlee, it works in GNOME Shel
[12:09] <mosno> Unity doesn't even load anymore not sure what's up with it
[12:09] <atlee> have you tryed MATE desktop?
[12:09] <mosno> atlee, that's a sweet idea, i completely forgot about that
[12:09] <atlee> their is a terminal command to reset unity panels
[12:09] <auronandace> there
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> mosno: tried Unity2D session
[12:09] <mosno> i actually don't mind gnome classic, except for this one stupid issue
[12:10] <mosno> ActionParsnip, that has it's own problems
[12:10] <atlee> goto terminal for a sec
[12:10] <mosno> yep
[12:10] <mosno> atlee, i'm not in unity i'm in gnome classic
[12:10] <zallx> its has problems installing ... it has problems compiling
[12:10] <atlee> then login as root
[12:10] <mosno> atlee, yep
[12:10] <atlee> well use this for when you login to unity
[12:10] <atlee> unity --reset
[12:10] <atlee> unity --reset-icons
[12:11] <gwd_> Someone please help me fix no sound problem on 12.04.
[12:11] <mosno> atlee, ok. but any idea about my gnome classic notification area?
[12:11] <gwd_> This is my alsa output >> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=0d671aa52bc3d2d646265aefffbdf467f6274461
[12:11] <atlee> if compiz is the cause then
[12:11] <atlee> gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/compiz-1
[12:11] <atlee> gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/compizconfig-1
[12:11] <auronandace> gwd_: screenshot of alsamixer
[12:11] <mosno> atlee, i'm not using compiz
[12:11] <atlee> then do unity --reset
[12:11] <mosno> atlee, gnome classic, no effects
[12:12] <atlee> go get MATE as it's a really superb gnome 2 replacement :D
[12:12] <mosno> atlee, maybe if i can't fix this one issue
[12:13] <mosno> atlee, i try and avoid 3rd party repos if i can
[12:13] <atlee> gwd goto your settings and switch to another audio hardware device
[12:13] <atlee> mosno extra repos are awsome
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> mosno: its not supoprted here, I suggest you advise XFCE
[12:13] <auronandace> atlee: and unsupported
[12:14] <mosno> atlee, non-broken software is even better
[12:14] <atlee> as long as you know what the package you are installing does and how to safely remove it if needed
[12:14] <mosno> i might see if all users are affected, one second
[12:14] <gwd_> auronandace: Here is my alsamixer screenshot >> http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/2510/screenshotfrom201205202.png
[12:15] <atlee> mosmo try changing themes to see if icons change and refresh
[12:15] <mosno> ps. audio is hillarious... i do Switch User and sound stops, then i login on tty1 and it starts again
[12:15] <mosno> ie. text login
[12:16] <auronandace> gwd_: a few things are muted there, not sure if they affect what you are trying to do
[12:16] <atlee> sound and graphics, wireless are all very hardware-to-hardware basis on if it works or if it doesn't and it also comes down to if the hardware is built into the kernel or not
[12:17] <gwd_> auronandace: How can I unmute them?
[12:17] <auronandace> gwd_: select them and press m
[12:17] <auronandace> gwd_: see the MM? that means muted
[12:18] <gwd_> Yes auronandace .. But, when I press M on them .. it just changed to "00" and can't go up the level.
[12:19] <TangoGold> http://www.sexy-natalie.com/?uid=69367 your welcome lol
[12:19] <auronandace> gwd_: when they change to 00 that means they are active
[12:20] <gwd_> How can I change the level when they are active, auronandace ... I can't press up arrow to change the level.
[12:20] <auronandace> gwd_: does the bar go up or down?
[12:21] <gwd_> auronandace: I can't up the bar.
[12:21] <gwd_> There is no bar on them at all. Just change to "00", auronandace
[12:22] <auronandace> gwd_: some of them have bars, some of them don't need bars
[12:23] <gwd_> okay .. I have activated all of them (changed them "00") ... but, still no sound, auronandace .
[12:24] <auronandace> gwd_: not sure what to suggest sorry
[12:25] <gwd_> auronandace: You might want to see my sound settings "Dummy Output" .. >> http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/5638/screenshotfrom201205202g.png
[12:25] <gwd_> I think I should see a sound card name.
[12:26] <auronandace> gwd_: hmm, odd, sorry i can't help further
[12:26] <gwd_> ok ... thanks for helping me.
[12:27] <shawny78> Can anyone suggest a softphone for Ubuntu that will run the H.323 protocol?
[12:29] <Dr_Willis> !info ekiga
[12:30] <shawny78> Well, there we go.  Thank you Dr!
[12:30] <Dr_Willis> softare center may show others
[12:36] <g0th> hi
[12:36] <eXtense> hi, maybe you can help me. Since about a month I get some errors while checking for updates. You can see the message here: http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/408412/ maybe you could help me fixing this issue?
[12:37] <g0th> when I try to upgrade ubuntu to 12.04 it doesn't do anything
[12:37] <g0th> it is downloading 2 files but doesn't proceed with the upgrade
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> !natty | eXtense
[12:37] <samba35> ok so i am not only one who face this problem
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> id say switch servers.. natty is not eol yet i think
[12:38] <g0th> This usually is caused by a system where /tmp is mounted noexec. Please remount without noexec and run the upgrade again.
[12:38] <g0th> why is exec needed for tmp?
[12:38] <Dr_Willis> to run the executable  update tools...
[12:38] <g0th> for me noexec seems to make sense
[12:38] <g0th> on /tmp
[12:38] <g0th> anyway, I never changed it
[12:38] <Dr_Willis> see wht mount command says about it.
[12:39] <g0th> why would you want to execute anything from /tmp?
[12:39] <eXtense> i already wondered about the "natty" in the link. but I don't know why these servers are in my repositorys? i added nothing and they seem to be unreachable since over one month. how can i delete them?
[12:39] <CaptObvious> they really need to add parallel fetching of packages to apt
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> the installer update tool downloads the updated executables to tmp and runs them from there.. is how i would guess its working
[12:39] <g0th> ok
[12:39] <g0th> how do I remount without noexec?
[12:40] <Colonel-Rosa> This has probably been said, but the release.ubuntu domain is very slow over in England
[12:40] <Dr_Willis> check your fstab entry for tmp  and see what options its using
[12:40] <Dr_Willis> most people dont use a seperate /tmp
[12:40] <g0th> ok I did mount -o remount exec /tmp
[12:40] <g0th> was that ok?
[12:40] <Colonel-Rosa> 40KiB/s
[12:40] <Dr_Willis> check mount command and see how its mounted then
[12:40] <CaptObvious> Dr_Willis - I use tempfs for /tmp
[12:40] <futurist> #arduino
[12:41] <g0th> I use tmpfs
[12:41] <g0th> well not me but the installer
[12:41] <g0th> I never touched any of those settings
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> disable the use of tmpfs then perhaps.
[12:41] <SilverStar_> Is possible to attach the VHD file in Ubuntu as normal HDD (like windows 7) ??
[12:41] <g0th> I just removed the noexec from fstab
[12:41] <g0th> and to get it running now (without reboot) I did mount -o remount exec /tmp
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> SilverStar_:  i think theres vhd to raw converteres.
[12:41] <CaptObvious> SilverStar_ - for the millionth time, it's the first hit on google if you google "mount vhd ubuntu"
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> !info vdfuse
[12:43] <SilverStar_> CaptObvious -> I search it, but  I only found info about Virtualbox etc.
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> !find vdfuse
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> vhd can work with vdfuse or so i just read.
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> from man vdfuse -->  -t     specify type (VDI, VMDK, VHD, or raw; default: auto)
[12:44] <SilverStar_> O,, thanks :)
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/natty/man1/vdfuse.1.html
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> You can use vmware-mount provided by VMWare Server.
[12:52] <csioktel> Hi, i'm new to ufw, i want to know where is the ufw save rules path?
[12:53] <csioktel> is it ufw will automatic save the rules for next boot?
[12:54] <pavel_> #Ubuntu-cz
[13:00] <sa7elak> Hello, how to to know how long the system have been running ???
[13:00] <iceroot> sa7elak: uptime
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[13:11] <_16aR_> Hello
[13:11] <_16aR_> Is it possible to change the hash algorithm of an already existing pgp / gpg key ?
[13:11] <_16aR_> Mine is actually SHA1, and I want to use SHA2 instead without regenerating a new key
[13:12] <CJKay> Has anyone had any luck getting Sun Java 6 (not 7) installed on Precise 12.04?
[13:12] <Dr_Willis> CJKay:  ive heard it works.. but never really tried.
[13:13] <CJKay> Heard it works? Where have these people even got it from? D:
[13:13] <Dr_Willis> I thoght the !java factoid said
[13:13] <Dr_Willis> lets see..
[13:13] <Dr_Willis> !java
[13:13] <Dr_Willis> Install the openjdk-6-jre package using any installation method.
[13:14] <Dr_Willis> https://github.com/flexiondotorg/oab-java6
[13:14] <CJKay> I need specifically Sun's Java 6 implementation
[13:14] <Dr_Willis> No idea then.  wget http://download.oracle.com/otn-pub/java/jdk/6u31-b04/jre-6u31-linux-i586.bin
[13:14] <CJKay> Oracle Java 7 doesn't allow me to use anything other than software rendering and OpenJDK 6 just crashes
[13:14] <Dr_Willis> is all i know on the topic.
[13:14] <dontknow> anyone using chromium here?
[13:14] <Dr_Willis> thats java 6
[13:15] <Dr_Willis> oracle java 6 jre 32-bit
[13:15] <dontknow> no one use chromium?
[13:15] <dontknow> lol
[13:15] <CJKay> Dr_Willis: Link is broken
[13:15] <Dr_Willis> i tend to use chromoim or google chrome
[13:16] <CJKay> Which is kinda my problem. Everything has been taken down
[13:16] <Dr_Willis> CJKay:  all i know is on that wiki page. ;) so cant help much more
[13:16] <CJKay> Alright, thanks
[13:16] <Dr_Willis> check askubuntu.com perhaps someone has an old version somewhere
[13:16] <dontknow> Dr_Willis, are you using or not?
[13:17] <Dr_Willis> browser window says chromium on this box.
[13:17] <iceroot> !anyone | dontknow
[13:17] <Dr_Willis> other boxs are using googles chrome. ;)
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> dontknow: chromium is all I use
[13:17] <Dr_Willis> cant say ive ever noticed any differance in the 2
[13:17] <tomodo> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Calculator
[13:17] <tomodo> where can I get the source code for this program?
[13:17] <dontknow> ActionParsnip, is it still 18, because 19 released and still no update?
[13:18] <iceroot> !info calculator
[13:18] <Dr_Willis> !find calculator
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> tomodo: apt-get source gcalc
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> dontknow: could report a bug, is there no deb file around
[13:18] <tomodo> i want the source coed
[13:18] <iceroot> tomodo: if you know the packagename use "apt-get source packagename" to get the source-package
[13:18] <Dr_Willis> !find gnome-calculator
[13:18] <dontknow> ActionParsnip, you have 18 either?
[13:19] <dontknow> ActionParsnip, or is it just me
[13:19] <tomodo> thanks very much
[13:20] <dontknow> gtmanfred, what are you doing here :D
[13:21] <Adriannom> hi.  just installed xubuntu 12.04 and after i suspend, the screen is very dark, even at the prompt to log back in.  changing brightness has some effect, but even full brightness is very dark.  the mouse pointer is the only thing that is at full brightness.  any ideas what could be going on?
[13:21] <evilgeenius> After a fresh install of Ubuntu 12 I have tried to install "apt-get install linux-headers-3.2.0-23-generic" , but it gives me the error "Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.2.0-23-generic (x86_64)".   Does anyone know what the issue is?  I need to install this so I can run VirtualBox.
[13:22] <dontknow> ActionParsnip, could you check your chromium's version number
[13:22] <iceroot> evilgeenius: use the metapackage instead
[13:22] <tomodo> I installed the source with apt, but where is it?
[13:22] <iceroot> evilgeenius: linux-headers-generic if i am correct
[13:22] <tomodo> oh I found it
[13:22] <iceroot> tomodo: in the dir where you called the command
[13:22] <tomodo> great
[13:22] <notze> i always get problems running apt-get
[13:22] <notze> whats wrong
[13:23] <notze> its a plain ubuntu server
[13:23] <notze> Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[13:23] <notze> either that
[13:23] <notze> or a lot other problem
[13:23] <yeats> notze: details?
[13:23] <notze> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/v/vlan/vlan_1.9-3ubuntu6_amd64.deb  Unable to connect to us.archive.ubuntu.com:http:
[13:23] <notze> E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[13:23] <digitalj> Try another mirror
[13:23] <iceroot> notze: Unable to connect to us.archive.ubuntu.com
[13:23] <Dr_Willis> us.archive.* has been slow the last few days.  not tried it today
[13:23] <yeats> notze: "Unable to connect to us.archive.ubuntu.com" is your key line
[13:24] <iceroot> notze: what is the question? the error is very clear
[13:24] <digitalj> I was having problems with us.archive.ubuntu.com yesterday
[13:24] <digitalj> Some other people were seeing rediculous latency as well, like only 20KB/s
[13:26] <Dr_Willis> yep. been that way for like 3 days
[13:26] <D[4]ni> does anyone know how to fix this error in rhythmbox trying to load the 10-band equalizer plugin? http://pastebin.com/y4BqVQFB
[13:28] <evilgeenius> iceroot: Ok I installed the linux-headers-generic, but now virtualbox gives me the error : "Error! Your kernel headers for kernel 3.2.0-23-generic cannot be found.".  If I install those specified headers then i get an error.
[13:28] <ngomes> D[4]ni, do you have python-gconf installed ?
[13:28] <evilgeenius> iceroot: Also, the kernel-devel package is not available to install.  Is that correct?
[13:29] <iceroot> evilgeenius: what is the output of "dpkg -l linux-headers-3.2.0-23-generic"
[13:29] <D[4]ni> ngomes, yes i do
[13:29] <iceroot> !info linux-headers-generic
[13:29] <dontknow> could someone check what version chromium installed on your ubuntu if you haven't added another repo
[13:29] <notze> iceroot
[13:30] <notze> yes ists clear but what is this
[13:30] <iceroot> evilgeenius: as you see its 3.2.0.24 and not .23
[13:30] <notze> sometimes is there and 5mins later not?
[13:30] <notze> this HAS to work
[13:30] <notze> i also have this problem with german servers of ubuntu
[13:30] <notze> and adn
[13:30] <iceroot> evilgeenius: you are on 12.04
[13:30] <evilgeenius> iceroot: This is the output : un  linux-headers-3.2.0-23-g
[13:30] <ngomes> D[4]ni, i suggest you go ask in #python room then , maybe then can explain better
[13:30] <compdoc> dontknow, my version is 18.0.1025.168
[13:30] <Dr_Willis> !info chromium
[13:30] <iceroot> notze: can you ping google.de from the cli? ping -c 4 google.com
[13:30] <Dr_Willis> !info chromium-browser
[13:31] <xtu> hi, how to use rss in ubuntu?
[13:31] <iceroot> evilgeenius: 12.04 is using 3.2.0-24-generic and not 23
[13:31] <iceroot> !info linux-headers-generic | evilgeenius
[13:31] <xtu> i mean i want to listen the voa english .
[13:31] <Dr_Willis> xtu:  whith rss reader apps is one way.  I just use google-reader's web site.
[13:31] <Dr_Willis> rmss?
[13:31] <dontknow> compdoc, i still have 18.0.1025.151 and didn't get update ???
[13:31] <xtu> no, i don't know what is rmss?
[13:32] <duobix> Hi, will there by official support for nvidia optimus?
[13:32] <xtu> Dr_Willis, you mean you can get the english podcast in google-reader?
[13:32] <Dr_Willis> rss = a news feed. rmms is a audio/video stream - i think. i may be backwards
[13:32] <evilgeenius> iceroot: ok.  So you you have any idea why virtualbox is looking for 3.2.0.23?  "Error! Your kernel headers for kernel 3.2.0-23-generic cannot be found."
[13:32] <compdoc> dontknow, I installed from the google website
[13:32] <iceroot> evilgeenius: vbox from the repos?
[13:32] <dontknow> compdoc, so you should have had 19
[13:32] <xtu> ok, I will try the google-reader
[13:32] <notze> iceroot yes
[13:32] <notze> it works all perfect
[13:32] <dontknow> compdoc, 19 released
[13:33] <notze> only the apt stuff is problemtic
[13:33] <Dr_Willis> http://www.voanews.com/wm/live/newsnow.asx
[13:33] <Dr_Willis> works in totem
[13:33] <evilgeenius> iceroot: no from their website.  I need to be using a  slightly older version or virtualbox, 4.1.4, and not the most recent, 4.1.14.
[13:34] <xtu> oh,  so I can add that link to totem.
[13:34] <Dr_Willis> xtu:  i imagine most any of the media players can handle it.
[13:34] <compdoc> dontknow, I installed it a short while back, so thats why
[13:34] <Dr_Willis> xtu:  i just went to the voanews.com site and clicked on the link and it opened in totem. i saw the url and pasted it here.
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> dontknow: all I've found is 'add the chrome ppa and install chrome-unstable' which isn't the same thing
[13:34] <duobix> Hi, is there any way I can simply install rpm packages, without opening terminal?
[13:35] <iceroot> evilgeenius: then i guess that is out of support here
[13:35] <crazypete> does anyone know of a texteditor that I can run in a terminal that has shift-arrows to select and ctrl-c/v/x?
[13:35] <dontknow> Dr_Willis, i didn't add any extra repo, i installed chromium using software center. so this means i will get no update anymore?
[13:35] <Dr_Willis> dontknow:  ubuntu only does security updates to their official repos
[13:35] <Dr_Willis> rarely version # updates
[13:35] <iceroot> evilgeenius: if i am correct there is something like /etc/init.d/vbox-setup
[13:35] <iceroot> evilgeenius: maybe that can help
[13:36] <evilgeenius> iceroot: yes, that is where I see the error message
[13:36] <iceroot> evilgeenius: ah ok
[13:36] <dontknow> Dr_Willis, it is not including chromium?
[13:36] <xtu> oh, and Dr_Willis , I am not a America, and I want to improve my english, so I want to listen the VOA podcast or rss thing. but I don't know what to do?
[13:36] <e_t_> duobix: RPM packages are for Red Hat and similar systems, not for Debian-derivatives like Ubuntu. You might have some luck using 'alien' but it's not guaranteed.
[13:36] <evilgeenius> iceroot:  Virtualbox must be getting 3.2.0.23 from somewhere.
[13:36] <iceroot> evilgeenius: are you bootet in the .23 kernel maybe? but have the headers installed for .24?
[13:36] <iceroot> evilgeenius: maybe that script is parsing the output of uname
[13:37] <duobix> e_t_ thank you.
[13:37] <compdoc> dontknow, I cannot see an option to update chrome
[13:37] <evilgeenius> iceroot: yes, uname shows 3.2.0-23-generic
[13:37] <iceroot> evilgeenius: install the .24 kernel, reboot the system
[13:37] <duobix> Anyway, I'd love to see a non-terminal installer for tar.gz files
[13:37] <iceroot> evilgeenius: then the metapackage .24 is matching again to uname
[13:37] <iceroot> !info linux-image-generic
[13:38] <crazypete> what do I google for to find editors that run in terminal? what is the common name for non-graphical text editors?
[13:38] <iceroot> evilgeenius: you see, there is a newer kernel for 12.04 and because the script is parsing uname you get that error
[13:38] <Dr_Willis> dontknow:  security updates only. are the normal way of ubuntu doing updates to ANYTHING in their repos. ubuntu is not a 'rolling' release
[13:38] <duobix> That's killing the whole experiance in any linux system
[13:38] <evilgeenius> iceroot: thanks! I'll I;ll try it.
[13:38] <dontknow> Dr_Willis, if i install google chrome through their website, it will take updates ?
[13:38] <iceroot> crazypete: vim, emacs, nano, joe
[13:38] <Dr_Willis> dontknow:  if google updates it.. yes.
[13:38] <Dr_Willis> dontknow:  if goodle dosent.. then no.
[13:38] <Muelli> crazypete: I'd do: apt-cache search editor
[13:38] <dontknow> Dr_Willis, ok thanks
[13:39] <iceroot> crazypete: command line editor for example
[13:39] <chu> crazypete: You're basically limited to the ones iceroot mentioned.
[13:39] <Dr_Willis> crazypete:  go learn vi. :) its worth learning
[13:39] <iceroot> crazypete: yes, use vim (not vi) its a real good editor
[13:39] <crazypete> iceroot, those are line-editors. I want proper text-editor for cli. Somebody must have written something like gedit for cli, if only as a proof of concept.
[13:39] <iceroot> crazypete: i told you 4
[13:40] <Dr_Willis> crazypete:  thers dozens of text editors for the cli.
[13:40] <angel282> Hello, Can someone recommend me on good server management panel such cpanel etc.. ?(which easy to install)?
[13:40] <iceroot> crazypete: vim is like gedit but much much much much more powerfull
[13:40] <Dr_Willis> crazypete:  on a 'rescue' system  - often you will be stuck with vi and nano. so those 2 are wrorth learning.
[13:40] <iceroot> crazypete: sudo apt-get install vim, then use the command "vimtutor"
[13:41] <Dr_Willis> fte is a very impressive text editor for the console also. but its not commonly used.
[13:41] <Dr_Willis> !info fte
[13:41] <crazypete> Dr_Willis, how do a search for these dozens of such editors. what is the common name for them?
[13:41] <iceroot> crazypete: i told you that too
[13:41] <Dr_Willis> crazypete:  apt-get basics... 'apt-cache search PATTERNNAME'
[13:41] <iceroot> crazypete: command line editor
[13:42] <iceroot> crazypete: but trust me if you want a real editor on the shell with some advanced features there are only vim and emacs
[13:42] <Volkan-K> hi
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> crazypete: nano for me :)
[13:43] <crazypete> I search for command line editors and I find those mentioned here. I don't want to offend anyone, but they're crap. I am looking for something simple and usefull.
[13:43] <Dr_Willis> i find nano just annoying
[13:43] <iceroot> crazypete: nano and joe if you want something simple
[13:43] <crazypete> nano is better, but copy select...
[13:43] <Volkan-K> they gave me this url for downloading ubuntu : http://tinyurl.com/cccrkq9  but I can't download. can you help?
[13:43] <Dr_Willis> crazypete:  they are not crap. if you want simple. go with nano.
[13:43] <iceroot> crazypete: and of course vim is not crap its just not what you are looking for
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> crazypete: tried nano, simple yet effective. None of the flashy stuff, just a straight editor
[13:44] <Dr_Willis> try fte - you may like it,
[13:44] <angel282> Can someone recommend me on a free good server/system administration panel? someone told me webmin is good? any recommendations?
[13:44] <iceroot> angel282: ssh
[13:44] <Dr_Willis> angel282:  for get you ever heard about webmin
[13:44] <Dr_Willis> !ebox
[13:44] <iceroot> !webmin | angel282
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> don't use webmin
[13:45] <angel282> ActionParsnip: ok, so which admin panel you are recommend to use?
[13:45] <Volkan-K> thats becaus Debian sux
[13:45] <Volkan-K> use CentOS
[13:45] <iceroot> Volkan-K: stop it
[13:46] <Volkan-K> why would i stop. thats the truth
[13:46] <iceroot> Volkan-K: its offtopic here
[13:46] <iceroot> Volkan-K: this is not #debian and not #centos
[13:47] <compdoc> has anyone heard news about why the ubuntu mirrors are so slow?
[13:47] <iceroot> Volkan-K: and if the user is not able to admin a system with the normal tools and need a webgui for it i am not sure if the os is the reason for sucking
[13:47] <compdoc> cant upgrade my server
[13:47] <Dr_Willis> compdoc:  not seen any news on it..
[13:47] <gccster> guys i have ubuntu 12.04 on intel i5 laptop hibernate/suspend not working what can i do?
[13:47] <Dr_Willis> compdoc:  been show for 4 days here
[13:47] <Dr_Willis> slow
[13:47] <compdoc> sounds the same for me
[13:48] <angel282> ActionParsnip: so which admin panel can be used instead of webmin?
[13:48] <Dr_Willis> !ebox | angel282  said this earlier
[13:49] <Dr_Willis> 'best' is to learn to use ssh. ;P
[13:50] <Volkan-K> ubuntu is debian based
[13:50] <Volkan-K> and is not stable
[13:50] <Volkan-K> here is the proof: http://digitaloffense.net/tools/debian-openssl/
[13:50] <iceroot> Volkan-K: you have a support question?
[13:50] <Volkan-K> iceroot: fuck you!
[13:50] <iceroot> Volkan-K: cu :)
[13:51] <Dr_Willis> pointless comments are pointless.
[13:53] <sirriffsalot> Hey! Is there any database for ubuntu users on getting the right nvidia drivers installed?
[13:53] <chabicobi> my USB 3G CDMA not working in edubuntu 12.04 who  can help me?
[13:53] <ikonia> sirriffsalot: the hardware drivers tool should offer the most compatible version for you
[13:53] <Dr_Willis> sirriffsalot:  i thought nvidia-current sort of scanned and installed what it thought was needed.
[13:53] <sirriffsalot> I've had some uncomfortable experience in 11.10 doing that though...
[13:53] <enbez> Does anyone know of a free server that allows you to run programs on it?
[13:54] <ikonia> sirriffsalot: your card may not actually have good support
[13:54] <sirriffsalot> I couldn't login after installing an nvidia driver...
[13:54] <ikonia> enbez: please don't ask in here - this is ubuntu support
[13:54] <Dr_Willis> sirriffsalot:  detailas as to what happens exactly is more helpfull
[13:54] <enbez> ok, sorry. Do you know a channel where i can ask?
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> angel282: I suggest you learn to manage the system with CLI, your skills will be transferrable to other distros and the system will be more secure.
[13:54] <votproductions> Wait what?
[13:54] <sirriffsalot> Well, it was a dream studio distribution, so could have been that. Now I'm on a straight Ubuntu 12.04
[13:54] <sirriffsalot> How do I check what nvidia cards I have?
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> sirriffsalot: sudo lshw -C display
[13:55] <amaurea> Hi! My repositories contain the package libportaudio2, but not a corresponding -dev package. Isn't there usually a -dev version for every package?
[13:55] <sirriffsalot> ActionParsnip: what should I be looking for??
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> sirriffsalot: the product line(s)
[13:55] <Dr_Willis> says 'vga'  on a line sirriffsalot
[13:56] <chabicobi> La nouvelle version de ubuntu ma clé  internet n'est pas détecté aidez moi
[13:56] <sirriffsalot> Oddly enough I have two *display lines... haha
[13:56] <sirriffsalot> product: G98 [GeForce G 100] and product: G98 [GeForce G 100]
[13:56] <sirriffsalot> How do I check which one is being used? Haha
[13:56] <Thiagovfar> On Ubuntu, ~/bin is automatically added to the PATH variable. Question is: Where is that? I've looked into .bashrc, /etc/bash.bashrc, /etc/profile. Couldn't find it.
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> sirriffsalot: nvidia-settings has a button to identify displays
[13:56] <Muelli> !fr | chabicobi
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> Thiagovfar: /etc/environment  maybe..
[13:57] <sirriffsalot> ActionParsnip: alright, installing that
[13:57] <sirriffsalot> By the way, is there some software/command that removes repositories that I no longer use?
[13:57] <sirriffsalot> That has no software installed requiring them
[13:58] <Thiagovfar> ActionParsnip: Nope.
[13:58] <magic_al> i have a picture on the top of my website. this picture is supposed to change depending on the content. more in detail the content is organized within a hierarchical menu. the top level of this menu consists of 6 links. for every of those 6 links i have a certain picture. how can i get the highest link parent of a content-typ in order to fit the picture according to that?
[13:58] <sirriffsalot> Hmm "You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver."
[13:58] <Thiagovfar> ActionParsnip: What bugs me is that it seems to be default behaviour for ubuntu, yet I can't find it.
[13:58] <mneptok> Thiagovfar: ~/.profile ?
[13:58] <chabicobi> Mon USB 3G 1x CDMA ne marche pas avec Ubuntu 12.04
[13:59] <mneptok> chabicobi: Angaloseulement en cette canale, SVP
[13:59] <mneptok> chabicobi: "Anglais seulement"
[13:59] <sirriffsalot> "Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server."
[13:59] <sirriffsalot> How do I restart the X server?
[13:59] <Dr_Willis> $ grep PATH .*
[14:00] <Dr_Willis> shows it in .profile   ;)
[14:00] <mneptok> sirriffsalot: ALT+PrntScrn+K
[14:00] <sirriffsalot> mneptok: Thanks:) Hang on
[14:00] <monohedron> hi I install 12.04 lts 64bit plus gnome. in gnome classic every window I open ends up partially hidden by the upper panel. can someone let me now how to prevent that?
[14:00] <Thiagovfar> mneptok: yep, found it on ~/.profile
[14:00]  * Dr_Willis cant imagine why that default behaivor would be annoying.
[14:01] <angel282> ActionParsnip: Zentyal is seems hard to install any alternative admin panel which more easy to install?
[14:01] <chabicobi> my internet key  USB 3G 1x CDMA not working in  Ubuntu 12.04
[14:01] <sirriffsalot> sudo: nvidia-xconfig: command not found
[14:01] <Muelli> chabicobi: how do you know it's not working?
[14:01] <Thiagovfar> Dr_Willis: It's not annoying. I just want to copy it over on Gentoo =)
[14:01] <mneptok> Thiagovfar: .profile is not shell specific. so if you switch to zsh or tcsh, /bin will stll be in the $PATH
[14:02] <chabicobi> I think it is not detect
[14:02] <Thiagovfar> mneptok: good to know
[14:02] <Dr_Willis> sirriffsalot:  the x gui to nvidia is 'nvidia-settings'
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> angel282: what do you need the admin panel to achieve?
[14:03] <sirriffsalot> Dr_Willis: Yes, I get it open, but tells me  "You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver. "
[14:03] <mneptok> chabicobi: pastebin the outout of "sudo lsusb -vv"
[14:03] <angel282> ActionParsnip: to manage the domains (adding new domains to the server), ftp accounts and bandwidth control
[14:03] <Dr_Willis> sirriffsalot:  so... you are not using the nvidia drivers.
[14:03] <sirriffsalot> Dr_Willis:  "Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server."
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> sirriffsalot: try:  sudo nvidia-xconfig      then
[14:03] <sirriffsalot> ActionParsnip: I did
[14:03] <Dr_Willis> nvidia-xconfig is a cli tool to tweak the xorg.conf
[14:03] <sirriffsalot> Then it tells me there is no such command
[14:04] <Dr_Willis> ive rarely needed to run nvidia-xconfig
[14:04] <Dr_Willis> $ which nvidia-xconfig
[14:04] <Dr_Willis> /usr/bin/nvidia-xconfig
[14:04] <Dr_Willis> !find nvidia-xconfig
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> !info cpanel
[14:04] <sirriffsalot> No such file or directory... lol
[14:05] <Dr_Willis> its part of the nvidia drivers.. how did you install your nvidia drivers  sirriffsalot ?
[14:05] <sirriffsalot> In my system settings details it says I have this driver: Gallium 0.4 on NV98
[14:05] <sirriffsalot> Dr_Willis: Well, I haven't... as I asked in the beginning, I wondered if there is a sound database webpage for getting the right driver installed
[14:05] <sirriffsalot> But I suppose this is an even more effective database!
[14:06] <Dr_Willis> Driver: GeForce GT 530/PCIe/SSE2
[14:06] <sirriffsalot> Dr_Willis: ?
[14:06] <D[4]ni> also, is there a way to change the order of the window buttons in the maximized state?
[14:06] <Dr_Willis> all i did on this box was 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-current' and then rebooted
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> angel282: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_web_hosting_control_panels
[14:06] <sirriffsalot> Dr_Willis: Hmm, well I guess I'll try that:) Brb
[14:07] <D[4]ni> i don't like close-minimize-maximize, i'd rather have close-maximize-minimize
[14:07] <Dr_Willis> sirriffsalot:  thats all ive ever needed to do for like all 10 of my nvidia machines.. ;)
[14:07] <Dr_Willis> D[4]ni:  at one time Ubuntu-tweak let you reorder them
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> D[4]ni: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[14:07] <D[4]ni> i'm on precise
[14:08] <chabicobi> and me i am in edubuntu precise
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> D[4]ni: do you still want them on the left?
[14:08] <chabicobi> sorry help me
[14:09] <Dr_Willis> chabicobi:  and the problem is
[14:09] <D[4]ni> i know it's possible for the normal state with gconf-editor, but there doesn't seem to be a setting for the maximized state
[14:09] <D[4]ni> for maximized windows, they should be on the left, yes
[14:10] <Dr_Willis> the title/controls get hidden when maxamized. so it would be settings in the panel thing i belive. cant say ive ever noticed them getting reordered. let me see if ubuntu-tweak does it
[14:10] <Muelli> !details | chabicobi
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> D[4]ni: i guess its a global menu thing, the maximized apps controls go into that
[14:11] <Dr_Willis> Hmm. Ubuntu-tweak no longer has to settings to reorder the buttons. just left or right.
[14:12] <Dr_Willis> i used to do Min Max <big space> Close    all the time
[14:12] <chabicobi> Thank you i want to install my key USB 3G CDMA in ubuntu 120.4 , the not dectecting that
[14:12] <D[4]ni> and where do i find the settings for that?
[14:12] <monohedron> on 12.04 lts 64bit plus gnome. in gnome classic sessions every window I open ends up partially hidden by the upper panel. can someone let me now how to prevent that?
[14:14] <Dr_Willis> D[4]ni:  from whative googled. you cant reorder them in the top panel. but you can in the window title
[14:14] <notze> no i changed the server
[14:14] <notze> all the time
[14:14] <notze> the same shit
[14:14] <notze> hon-qpid_0.12-2_all.deb  Unable to connect to archive.ubuntu.com:http:
[14:14] <FloodBot1> notze: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:14] <notze> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/python-webob/python-webob_1.1.1-1_all.deb  Unable to connect to archive.ubuntu.com:http:
[14:14] <notze> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/s/socat/socat_1.7.1.3-1.2_amd64.deb  Unable to connect to archive.ubuntu.com:http:
[14:14] <ikonia> notze: can you please a.) tone down the language b.) not flood the channel
[14:14] <D[4]ni> Dr_Willis, i already changed it in the titlebar
[14:15] <notze> thanx for info the bot told me already
[14:15] <iceroot> notze: öh
[14:15] <Dr_Willis> D[4]ni:  I did see some indicator-applet mentioned that  did the same feature. it may have been more changeable. check the webupd8 postings - it was either this week or last week i saw it mentioned
[14:15] <notze> i i never had this problem with debian
[14:15] <iceroot> notze: why is the error archive.ubuntu.com:http
[14:15] <iceroot> notze: and not http://archive.ubuntu.com
[14:16] <Dr_Willis> http://www.webupd8.org/2012/05/window-buttons-extension-available-for.html
[14:16] <iceroot> notze: please paste the output of "cat /etc/apt/sources.list"
[14:16] <iceroot> !paste | notze
[14:16] <notze> ok ;D
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> notze: try: http://paste.ubuntu.com/997438/
[14:16] <sa7elak> Hello, how to move an application window to another workspace ??? and how to switch between work spaces using keyboard ??
[14:17] <iceroot> sa7elak: ctrl + alt + left/right cursor-key to switch (if i am correct)
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> sa7elak: ctrl+alt+left / right cursor to switch workspace
[14:17] <Dr_Willis> sa7elak:  in unity on 12.04 press and hold the SUPER(windows) key and it shows a shortcut guide
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> sa7elak: you can right click the window decorator and send it to a workspace that way
[14:18] <Dr_Willis> it says shift-alt-ctrl-arrows to move to otehr work spaces
[14:18] <chabicobi> #ubuntu-fr
[14:18] <Dr_Willis> The Super Key is SUper!
[14:18] <iceroot> notze: i bet you just messed up your /etc/apt/sources.list :) so its your fault and not the fault of ubuntu and the complete flame from you was not needed :)
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: thanks for asking :)
[14:20] <stars69> hi, what is the cmd to format drive under ssh screen?
[14:20] <sa7elak> Thanks for you all
[14:20] <Ashkot> Hello everybody  ^_^
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> stars69: mk2fs   you will format the partition too, not the drive
[14:20] <michaelvd> Yello, is it possible to find a bluetooth server for multiple communication(voice/soud)?
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> stars69: the partition will need to be unmounted to be formatted
[14:21] <stars69> ActionParsnip, thanks
[14:21] <paopao> I installed nvidia on opensuse, then I realized that ubuntu is really easy to use, and it's so convenient
[14:22] <compdoc> ubuntu is nice
[14:22] <gccster> guys why every time i boot my laptop and login ubuntu the wireless adapter is disabled and i have to press the keyboard enable button?
[14:22] <airbender> so nice
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> paopao: some distros come with the driver pre-added :)
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> gccster: if you login and run:  sudo rfkill unblock all     does it unlock it?
[14:23] <maddinw> Hello everyone.
[14:23] <sirriffsalot> Dr_Willis: Still no change with the nvidia-settings installed..
[14:24] <maddinw> I was redirected from another channel to here  and I hope that you could help me with a question I have.
[14:24] <gccster> ActionParsnip, should i restart and check out?
[14:24] <paopao> ActionParsnip, you are right
[14:24] <sirriffsalot> Dr_Willis: When I run it now it still tells me "You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver."
[14:25] <gccster> ActionParsnip, i dont know if i am clear the wireless adapter is disabled and it needs a keyboard button to get enabled every time i reboot
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> gccster: if the command works, we can make it happen automagically
[14:25] <Ashkot> what is the main differences between the ubuntu and kubuntu?
[14:25] <gccster> ActionParsnip, ok let me try then
[14:26] <maddinw> But if you are busy right now thats ok I guess.
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> Ashkot: default desktop, window manager and default apps. The rest is the same
[14:27] <Hotwired> wtf is meeboo and why is my ubuntu live disk showing me meeboo ads in the corner of my screen :S
[14:27] <L3top> sirriffsalot: lspci -nn | grep VGA
[14:27] <rufensis> maddinw what is your question?
[14:27] <Dr_Willis> sounds like somthign the browser is doing Hotwired
[14:27] <luser> hi all. what's the difference in "lspci -k" output between "Kernel driver in use" and "Kernel modules"? i have different output between two different installations...
[14:27] <sirriffsalot> L3top: 03:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation G98 [GeForce G 100] [10de:06e6] (rev a1)  and 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation C77 [GeForce 8200] [10de:084b] (rev a2)
[14:27] <luser> these are both output: http://pastebin.com/LhrXyvgC
[14:28] <luser> in the second case "Kernel modules" is missing although i can see the module with lsmod
[14:28] <sirriffsalot> L3top: I get those two lines as output..
[14:28] <dontknow> chrome stable 64 bit doesn't have internal flash player?
[14:28] <Hotwired> Dr_Willis: evil!
[14:28] <maddinw> rufensis: I have a few questions about ssh-tunneling and ssh agents.
[14:28] <L3top> sirriffsalot: are you trying to use both your onboard and the card?
[14:28] <sirriffsalot> L3top: No idea... not intentionally at least:S
[14:28] <dontknow> i can't see internal flash player in plugins tab
[14:28] <gccster> ActionParsnip, well it is not working
[14:28] <maddinw> I have access to the tunneling service at ssh.silenceisdefeat.com and I can build a tunnel.
[14:28] <L3top> sirriffsalot: disable the onboard in bios
[14:29] <sirriffsalot> Onboard...
[14:29] <Ashkot> i think i am in love with kde
[14:29] <sirriffsalot> Will that be the G 100 one?
[14:29] <maddinw> I use the command ssh -D 8000 -Nf sd
[14:29] <L3top> no
[14:29] <maddinw> With sd being the host defined in ~/.ssh/confid
[14:29] <maddinw> *config
[14:29] <L3top> wait
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> gccster: so the command is no good :(
[14:29] <L3top> perhaps
[14:30] <sirriffsalot> L3top: so the (rev 2) GeForce 8200?
[14:30] <maddinw> I can open it, but I would like to have it at startup so I dont need to open it up myself all the time.+
[14:30] <Ashkot> ActionParsnip : thank you :)
[14:30] <maddinw> So I edited my /etc/rc.local file and inserted the command in there.
[14:31] <L3top> sirriffsalot: I would expect that that is your onboard.  however in the bios it will likely identify as "onboard"
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> Ashkot: np man :)
[14:31] <sirriffsalot> L3top: I'll have a look, thanks for suggesting! Brb
[14:31] <maddinw> But the tunnel is not available after startup. I have activated public key authentification, but that does not make a difference I guess.
[14:31] <L3top> sirriffsalot: is this an asus m3n78 bpard by chance?
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> gccster: does the system have a make and model?
[14:32] <L3top> s/bpard/board/
[14:32] <luser> excuse me, anyone knows what's the difference in "lspci -k" output between "Kernel driver in use" and "Kernel modules"?
[14:32] <gccster> ActionParsnip, you mean my laptops firm?
[14:32] <Dr_Willis> in use mean loaded.. vs ones that could be loaded.
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> gccster: the full model please
[14:32]  * Dr_Willis guesses
[14:33] <gccster> ActionParsnip, its a local company its an i5 intel 4gb ram nothing special
[14:33] <maddinw> Any idea?
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> luser: possibly the ones in use are being used now, but some may be loaded but doing nothing
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> gccster: so its not a dell or acer etc?
[14:34] <Dr_Willis> some devices could use differnt modules. I know of several network cards that have differnt drivers that COULD be used for them
[14:34]  * L3top guesses Dr_Willis's guess is right
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> gccster: run:  sudo dmidecode -t 1    can you pastebin the output please
[14:34] <gccster> ActionParsnip, nop i think it must be a interface command that im measing like auto wan0 etc
[14:34] <luser> ActionParsnip: these era two lspci output of two different installations (dual boot): http://pastebin.com/LhrXyvgC
[14:34] <rufensis> maddinw: i've never tried loading an ssh login at bootup.
[14:35] <luser> ActionParsnip: the strange thing is that in both installation lsmod shows the pata_marvell module
[14:35] <Erealz> hey guys i have a question im running ubuntu 12.04 64bit lts. i haveing a problem when trying to visit a website that was working fine a some time ago.  also i cant reach my shellaccount? but if i connect to my vpn then and retry the page loadsup? and the shell account login come up? what could be causeing this?
[14:35] <gccster> ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.com/5N1LtwWC
[14:36] <maddinw> I think it is possible - Im okay with entering the password to allow access to my private keys - but I heard that Linux is flexible so I though this might not pose much of a problem.
[14:37] <mosno> i found something that fixes my gnome-panel notification area problem until i logout again: if i open appearance properties and pick another GTK+ theme, it fixes my notification area. it remains fixed even if i switch back to the orginal theme (Ambiance)
[14:37] <Dr_Willis> you can set up ssh keys where you just do a 'ssh host' and it auto starts up with no passwords needed. thats easy enough
[14:37] <Onixs> i just installed 12.04 on my powerbook!
[14:37] <Dwezzel> Does someone knows why updates are so slow today ?  From Canada... ???   Or maybe it's only me....
[14:37] <maddinw> Dr_Willis: Could you explain that a but further please?
[14:37] <Dr_Willis> Dwezzel:  been slow for 4+ days
[14:37] <Dr_Willis> !ssh | maddinw
[14:38] <Dwezzel> Thx Dr_Willis
[14:38] <sirriffsalot> L3top: Hi... I went into the bios (I'm on a acer aspire machine) and I can't find any options to disable the graphics cards....... this is getting annoying lol
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> gccster: ok, if you run:  sudo lshw -C network    what driver is the wifi using?
[14:38] <Prsm> Hello, How do you portforward on Ubuntu without router access?
[14:38] <Dr_Willis> maddinw:  you generate the keys copy the pub to the server. and    ssh foo, i get a prompt no need to enter  a pass
[14:38]  * Erealz i need help trobleshooting a problem ,im running ubuntu 12.04 64bit lts. i haveing a problem when trying to visit a website that was working fine a some time ago.  also i cant reach my shellaccount? but if i connect to my vpn then and retry the page loadsup? and the shell account login come up? what could be causeing this?
[14:38] <Dwezzel> Dr_Willis: Nobody knows when it will be fixed ??
[14:38] <Dr_Willis> Dwezzel:  no idea
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> Prsm: if you are using a router you need to set it up there
[14:38] <Dwezzel> Thx anyway Dr_Willis
[14:39] <maddinw> Dr_Willis: why should I use PuTTy on a system that has SSH  build into it? I have the public key on the host, but this does still require me to open the tunnel after startup.
[14:39] <gccster> ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.com/ZJfFH2tQ
[14:39] <mneptok> sirriffsalot: disable what graphics? in favor of what?
[14:39] <L3top> sirriffsalot: let me look at something
[14:39] <Dr_Willis> maddinw:  you dont need to use putty client on linux, unless you like its features.
[14:39] <maddinw> And I use dynamic forwarding...local forwarding does not really work.
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> gccster: ok, reboot then run:   sudo modprobe -r ath9k ; sleep 2; sudo modprobe ath9k
[14:40] <Dr_Willis> maddinw:  you can use  the command line to set up tunnels and so forth
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> gccster: does it then work?
[14:40] <sirriffsalot> mneptok: L3top suggested I do that, since I have two graphic cards showing up when I want to know of their usage
[14:40] <gccster> ActionParsnip, ok give me a moment
[14:40] <maddinw> Dr_Willis: I know. I do that, but I can't open them at startup.
[14:40] <mneptok> sirriffsalot: the 2 you pasted were the exact same model.
[14:40] <sirriffsalot> mneptok: uhm... no? Different numbers and on different lines, how can they be the same?!-.-
[14:40] <mneptok> sirriffsalot: i know of no OEM that will embed 2 discrete nVidia GPUs into a system.
[14:40] <Dr_Willis> maddinw:  you can make shell scripts start at login.
[14:41] <Erealz> ok
[14:41] <sirriffsalot> mneptok: OEM?
[14:41] <L3top> I dont think so.
[14:41] <L3top>  03:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation G98 [GeForce G 100] [10de:06e6] (rev a1)  and 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation C77 [GeForce 8200] [10de:084b] (rev a2)
[14:41] <Dr_Willis>  stuff in .config/autostart starts at login. if set up right
[14:41] <L3top> they have different pci-ids
[14:41] <maddinw> Dr_Willis: I already edited my /etc/init.d/rc.local and inserted "ssh -D 8000 user@host"
[14:41] <mneptok> sirriffsalot: 07:56 < sirriffsalot> product: G98 [GeForce G 100] and product: G98 [GeForce G 100]
[14:41] <sirriffsalot> mneptok: ah yea, copied wrong on that one:P
[14:42] <sirriffsalot> mneptok: what L3top just linked is correct..
[14:42] <mneptok> sirriffsalot: this is a laptop?
[14:42] <sirriffsalot> mneptok: nope, just a shitty PC
[14:42] <Erealz> umm how about this command would i issue to find out why a certain  page is load and or haveing trouble connecting to it services like a shellaccount?
[14:42] <L3top> looks like a nettop
[14:42] <Dr_Willis> maddinw:  stuff in rc.local get ran by root.. so you need to set up the keys in  the root users dir i imagine.
[14:42] <sirriffsalot> L3top: It's an acer aspire x3200...
[14:42] <mneptok> sirriffsalot: do you have a PCI(-E) graphics card in it?
[14:42] <L3top> I am not sure what benefit the addin card is.
[14:42] <sirriffsalot> mneptok: how do I check?
[14:42] <L3top> I was loking them up.
[14:42] <Dr_Willis> maddinw:  useing su -c  in rc.local lets the command get ran by a user and use the users stuff.
[14:43] <Erealz> umm how about this?what  command would i issue to find out why a certain  page isn't loading and or having trouble connecting to it services like a shellaccount?
[14:43] <luser> ActionParsnip: excuse me, don't you think these output are "strange"? http://pastebin.com/VVTazGHN vs http://pastebin.com/7CD3YzBV
[14:43] <sivam> hi i want to install sun-jdk6 or sun-jdk7
[14:43] <mneptok> sirriffsalot: does the monitor cable plug into the motherboard, as well as an expansion slot? a choice?
[14:43] <sivam> hi i want to install sun-jdk6 or sun-jdk7
[14:43] <maddinw> Dr_Willis: This sounds plausible...I will try it out
[14:44] <sirriffsalot> mneptok: uhm, the monitor cable is plugged into the "top"
[14:44] <mneptok> sirriffsalot: there is only one place to plug in a monitor?
[14:44] <sirriffsalot> mneptok: no, two
[14:44] <sirriffsalot> mneptok: trying to find a picture for you to see the rear
[14:44] <Erealz> umm how about this?what  command would i issue to find out why a certain  page isn't loading and or having trouble connecting to it services like a shellaccount?
[14:44] <maddinw> Thank you very much so far...see you after my reboot.
[14:44] <knutremi> Hi. I'm having trouble with gedit and FTP. Some of the files I save go empty at random. I asked yesterday but no one had an answer.
[14:44] <mneptok> sirriffsalot: look at the rearward port. is it an expansion slot?
[14:45] <sirriffsalot> mneptok: http://www.google.no/imgres?q=acer+aspir+x3200&um=1&hl=no&safe=off&client=opera&sa=N&rls=en&channel=suggest&tbm=isch&tbnid=vo1hpHAKoo4MrM:&imgrefurl=http://www.saverstore.com/product/20029938/Acer-Aspire-X3200-Athlon-64-X2-5000-26GHz-3GB-RAM-320GB-DVDRW-LAN-Vista-Home-GeForce&docid=kZYs605ci8V55M&imgurl=http://images2.icecat.biz/img/gallery/2059992_6279.jpg&w=1024&h=1206&ei=PAO5T5miB4PYtA
[14:45] <sirriffsalot> Lol
[14:45] <sirriffsalot> mneptok: expansion slot? How do I tell?:$
[14:45] <sirriffsalot> mneptok: in that picture I'm connected to the top one
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> luser: is the module 'ahci' loaded in the system with the smaller output? I imagine the one with more text is the 'ok'one....
[14:45]  * Erealz what  command would i issue to find out why a certain  page isn't loading and or having trouble connecting to it services like a shellaccount?
[14:45] <mneptok> sirriffsalot: that "top one" is an expansion card.
[14:46] <sirriffsalot> mneptok:  yea, I figured... What about that?
[14:46] <knutremi> Please, at least tell me where to ask my question, if you haven't got any answers.
[14:46] <mneptok> sirriffsalot: that's probably the GeForce 8200.
[14:46] <sirriffsalot> mneptok: Ok?
[14:46] <sirriffsalot> mneptok: what's the point?:D
[14:46] <sirriffsalot> mneptok: want me to take it out?
[14:46] <mneptok> sirriffsalot: the mobo probably has the G100 embedded
[14:46] <sirriffsalot> mneptok: I've done it before
[14:46] <sirriffsalot> mneptok: I suppose the GeForce 8200 is better...
[14:46] <luser> ActionParsnip: yes, the more output is the ok one and yes, it is ahci module is shown by lsmod also in the "broken" one
[14:46] <mneptok> sirriffsalot: what is it you are trying to do exactly?
[14:47]  * Erealz what  command would i issue to find out why a certain  page isn't loading and or having trouble connecting to it services like a shellaccount?
[14:47] <sirriffsalot> mneptok: anyway where are we going with all of this?
[14:47] <mneptok> sirriffsalot: you're the one asking for help. you tell me.
[14:47] <knutremi> T_T
[14:47] <Sidewinder> knutremi, What do you mean by "go empty at random?"
[14:47] <sirriffsalot> mneptok: I just want the right nvidia driver installed..:) Haha
[14:47] <luser> ActionParsnip: i don't understand why lspci doesn't show the "Kernel modules" line...
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> Erealz: www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/   tried that
[14:48] <Erealz> it just me
[14:48] <sirriffsalot> mneptok: right now nvidia-settings tells me I have none installed..
[14:48] <mneptok> sirriffsalot: there is no "right" nVidia driver. nVidia issues a single, monolithic binary blob driver for Linux that supports the devices they choose.
[14:48] <knutremi> Sidewinder: I save the files directly to FTP. Then for inexplicable reasons, some of them go empty in the meantime.
[14:48] <luser> ActionParsnip: any idea?
[14:48] <sirriffsalot> mneptok: well I at least want some nvidia driver installed so my graphics won't be complete crap:)
[14:49] <Erealz> god damn
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> luser: maybe it needs the 2.6.35 (or later) to work
[14:49] <mneptok> sirriffsalot: why do you need the proprietary driver from nVidia? what does the "nouveau" driver in the kernel lack that you need?
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> Erealz: possibly a bad DNS
[14:49] <sirriffsalot> mneptok: trying to run a game in wine, and I've spent 12 hours trying to configure the graphics right in wine and the game itself so it'll be viewable at least...
[14:49] <sa7elak> how to copy a directory with its content to another place from terminal ?
[14:49] <luser> ActionParsnip: well, i hope it's not the reason... the 2.6.32 has the ability to load that module in menuconfig...
[14:50] <sirriffsalot> mneptok: it runs at 12-18 fps.... has to be driver missing
[14:50] <sirriffsalot> mneptok: and as it turns out there isn't one installed:P Explains a lot
[14:50] <luser> ActionParsnip: is there anything else i can test?
[14:50] <knutremi> Sidewinder: I have no idea if it happens as they're being saved, or something happens in the background without my intervention.
[14:50] <mneptok> sirriffsalot: if you want my honest opinion, if you want to run games, just install Windows. WINE is not a solution.
[14:50] <Sidewinder> knutremi, I'm very sorry but I just don't understand your question.
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> luser: what distro/versions are the boots
[14:51] <iceroot> sa7elak: cp -r /path/to/dir /path/to/target
[14:51] <sirriffsalot> mneptok: that isn't an option right now, and many people run it absolutely fine. Would you mind telling me how to get a nvidia driver installed and just see how it goes? If you're right after that then there we go
[14:51] <GeneralEater> Hi.
[14:51] <mneptok> sirriffsalot: there is no driver missing. you are using the 2D-only "nouveau" open source nVidia driver that is built-in to the Linux kernel.
[14:51] <L3top> sirriffsalot: can you please tell me the output of apt-cache policy nvidia-current | grep Installed
[14:51] <maddinw> Hello again.
[14:51] <sirriffsalot> L3top: hmm Installed: (none)
[14:52] <maddinw> Unfortunately my attempt did not work quite well...
[14:52] <knutremi> I need to figure out if gedit has problems saving to FTP or if it will remove file contents without my knowledge.
[14:52] <sirriffsalot> mneptok: Well, 2D explains a lot then! it's a 3D game:P
[14:52] <mneptok> sirriffsalot: be aware, there are TONS of people here every week that complain about how the proprietary nVidia driver has broken their system.
[14:52] <L3top> sirriffsalot: if I were you, I would sudo apt-get install nvidia-current-updates
[14:52] <sirriffsalot> mneptok: I'm one of them..:)
[14:52] <GeneralEater> Is it possible to do a sort of "Factory Reset", where all my personal files are wiped from the hard drive, but the OS stays?
[14:52] <mneptok> sirriffsalot: and you want to install it anyway>
[14:52] <mneptok> !?
[14:52] <sirriffsalot> L3top: trying that then, finger crossed:)
[14:52] <sirriffsalot> sirriffsalot: I can just remove it again if it fails?:P
[14:52] <L3top> mneptok: there is a problem with 295.40 imo. The nvidia-current-updates package seems much happier.
[14:53] <knutremi> Because my hard work is being irreversably deleted when I'm editing files stored on FTP through gedit.
[14:53] <maddinw> Dr_Willis: I have added the line: udo su maddinw -c ssh -D 8000 -fN maddinw@ssh.silenceisdefeat.com
[14:53] <mneptok> L3top: i;m not talking about just recent events. i'm talking about what i have seen on this channel in the past 6 years.
[14:53] <maddinw> sudo su maddinw -c ssh -D 8000 -fN maddinw@ssh.silenceisdefeat.com
[14:53] <gccster> ActionParsnip, i tried it nothing happened every time i boot i have to click Enable Wireless on gnome to start the wireless adapter
[14:54] <sirriffsalot> L3top: nvidia-current-updates nvidia-settings-updates these two packages were going to be installed as a result... sound right?
[14:54] <luser> ActionParsnip: the wotking one is ubuntu 10.10 and the "broken" one is debian squeeze
[14:54] <luser> i'm also asking in the debian community...
[14:54] <ardian> Hi I have the classic gnome menu how can I add the minimize max and close button to the upper panel ?
[14:54] <ardian> like in os x ?
[14:54] <L3top> nvidia has had the best proprietary support historically imo. If you just don't like closed source, I can respect that... but, we use nvidia extensively and I only dislike this set of drivers
[14:54] <L3top> yes sirriffsalot
[14:55] <flowerpot> GeneralEater, it's usually not that easy.  Something might have come with your version of ubuntu (I don't know though), but one method would be to just run a tool from a livecd to clean the drive, then re-install Ubuntu.
[14:55] <mneptok> L3top: you have opinion. i have 6 years of logs. :)
[14:55] <maddinw> Does anyone know what I am doing wrong?
[14:55] <sirriffsalot> L3top: praying for some luck...:D
[14:56] <sirriffsalot> L3top: alright, shall I just reboot now when it's finished installing?
[14:56] <GeneralEater> flowerpot, Okay, I'll do that then.
[14:56] <Erealz> ActionParsnip i thought of that and changed the dns to google dns on my router to no avail? it weird becouse if i connect to my vpn the page loads up and i can get to my shell account login why else might it be
[14:56] <flowerpot> maddinw, what are you trying to do?
[14:56] <maddinw> flowerpot: I am trying to get my SSH-Tunnel working at startup
[14:57] <L3top> mneptok: Again... I am sure you have ati problems, and intel problems... we use compositing and accelleration for h264 in our project, and nvidia has always worked just dandy... we auto detect and install... and it all works great, except this latest slew... your "opinion" is noted
[14:57] <L3top> yes sirriffsalot
[14:57] <sirriffsalot> L3top: haha:) cheers. rebooting then. *prays incessantly*
[14:58] <maddinw> flowerpot: so I edited /etc/init.d/rc.local
[14:58] <flowerpot> maddinw, what's up with the first "udo su" in your line?
[14:58] <flowerpot> maddinw, could you upload your rc.local and share it if it doesn't contain any sensitive information?
[14:58] <maddinw> flowerpot: bash didnt catch that anymore...it does not. I can upload it to pastebin.
[14:59] <wolfcore> maddinw: you don't need _both_ sudo and su, only sudo
[14:59] <sirriffsalot> L3top: Now my system details says I have "GeForce G100/PCIe/SSE2 " as a driver:D
[14:59] <c0deMaster> anybody running openvpn ?  i'm the internet speed is extremely slow
[14:59] <maddinw> Alright...I will upload it anyway now.
[14:59] <ardian> Get Unity-Like Window Buttons On The Top any help about this
[14:59] <L3top> Check performance sirriffsalot.
[15:00] <sirriffsalot> L3top: in what way?
[15:00] <L3top> however you did before :P
[15:00] <sirriffsalot> L3top: logging in to the game:P
[15:01] <L3top> sirriffsalot: as a side benefit... you can likely use multiple monitors, and enable twinview in the nvidia config gui.
[15:01] <Orpheon> I'm having big problems with wine and opengl
[15:01] <maddinw> flowerpot: http://pastebin.com/7r0TbwHM
[15:01] <Orpheon> it's complaining that it can't find opengl
[15:01] <sirriffsalot> L3top: don't have enough space for that
[15:01] <sirriffsalot> Hmmmm
[15:01] <sirriffsalot> L3top: Hang on
[15:01] <Orpheon> I tried completely reinstalling the nvidia drivers, wine, mesa, and everything opengl-related I could find
[15:02] <sirriffsalot> L3top: FPS went from 12-18 to -25-30!!
[15:02] <sirriffsalot> L3top: you're my hero
[15:02] <Orpheon> I even tried copying 32 bit opengl libraries and stuck them in /usr/lib, /usr/lib32, /usr/local/lib
[15:02] <sirriffsalot> L3top: now my ego kicks in... how do I check which nvidia driver is installed? GeForce G100/PCIe/SSE2  I suppose is the name?:p
[15:03] <L3top> apt-cache policy nvidia-current-updates  will tell you specifics.
[15:03] <sirriffsalot> L3top: just out of wanting to learn, where do you learn all this stuff from? I'd like to be able to handle this myself in the future, haha:)
[15:04] <maddinw> sirriffsalot: experience and commitment.
[15:04] <maddinw> flowerpot: and idea what I should try out?
[15:04] <sirriffsalot> maddinw: I have the latter and starting to get former
[15:04] <Orpheon> any wine experience?
[15:04] <sirriffsalot> L3top: But is there some webpage where they cover this very specifically? Ubuntupage of some kind?
[15:04] <Orpheon> or driver installation?
[15:04] <sirriffsalot> Orpheon: a little:)
[15:05] <sirriffsalot> Orpheon: a lot!
[15:05] <MestreLion> Guys, I'm having a weird bug in Software Center: "Turn On Recommendations" is not working: I sign in, it shows "submitting inventory", but nothing happens. No recommendations, and if I exit and open again, it shows the same Turn On"  button again. Any clues?
[15:05] <Orpheon> great!
[15:05] <Orpheon> can you please help me with this?
[15:05] <L3top> I do all of the graphics autodetection and configuration for a project that has a media player... I made the mistake of poking around in the source code trying to make more available, and now it's just sort of what I do. We went from only using nvidia, to just about everything out there. To summerize... just dig into some code somewhere.
[15:05] <sirriffsalot> L3top: Uhm, that command says among other things "295.49-0ubuntu0.1 "
[15:06] <L3top> correct... that is the driver you are using... 295.49.
[15:06] <sirriffsalot> L3top: I have no experience in "digging" in codes nor desire to try, I'd smash my computer by the end of a week
[15:06] <sirriffsalot> L3top: but... what does that mean? Is it "the latest"? The most stable??
[15:06] <flowerpot> maddinw, I don't know if the sudo command will work, but I suggest you put this in your ~/.bashrc or ~.bash_profile files instead
[15:06] <MestreLion> (i've tried to delete all settings and configs (and keys) of Software Center, but no matter which account I sign in, Recommendations does not work. Any troubleshooting clues?
[15:07] <Orpheon> I execute a windows exe that has always worked for me these past 2 years
[15:07] <Orpheon> http://pastebin.com/RHEqt9xD
[15:07] <Orpheon> especially these lines
[15:07] <Orpheon> err:winediag:X11DRV_WineGL_InitOpenglInfo Direct rendering is disabled, most likely your OpenGL drivers haven't been installed correctly (using GL renderer "GeForce GTX 460 SE/PCIe/SSE2", version "1.4 (2.1.2 NVIDIA 295.49)").
[15:07] <maddinw> flowerpot: alright...I will reboot, try it out and give you feedback. Thank you so far.
[15:07] <Orpheon> err:d3d_caps:WineD3D_CreateFakeGLContext Can't find a suitable iPixelFormat.
[15:07] <Orpheon> err:d3d:InitAdapters Failed to get a gl context for default adapter
[15:07] <Orpheon> Direct3D8 is not available without OpenGL.
[15:07] <FloodBot1> Orpheon: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:07] <flowerpot> you can remove the sudo su maddinw -c part
[15:07] <Dr_Willis> Hmm. when reencoding a video. Ive noticed the thumbnail  frame changes. Anyone noticed a tool that would let me select what frame is used for the initial/thumbnail  frame? Be nice to have the grandkids face on the videos that star them. ;)
[15:07] <basso> exit
[15:08] <basso> so hardcore
[15:08] <maddinw> Dr_Willis pointed out that rc.local runs with root permissions and thus will not know the public key I have put on the host.
[15:08] <Dr_Willis> MestreLion:  i find the software recommendations to be rahter... pointless..
[15:08] <L3top> what version is there is up to the cononical folks. I believe right now the most current is in the 302 range, but I don't test each one for stability... using 295.40 as buntu's stable version was a mistake imo... but what do I know... If you want to experiment you can check out xorg edgers PPA, they have bleeding edge debian packages.
[15:08] <Etale> I have a question: I'm getting a new laptop tomorrow, and I want to install Linux on it. At first I was thinking of Gentoo, because it's the most customizable. But I understand that to install anything on it (even firefox) takes forever. What would you recommend? Ultimately, I want something that is like Ubuntu but isn't as heavy. Should I go with a low-fat version of Ubuntu, or perhaps with
[15:08] <Etale> Debian?
[15:08] <L3top> sirriffsalot: ^
[15:08] <mneptok> L3top: like i said, it is opinion based on a very deep experience with Ubuntu users.
[15:08] <Etale> I'm a noob at this point, but I have no problem learning as much as is needed. It will be fun for me.
[15:08] <Dr_Willis> maddinw:  personally id set up a script that does it all then run that script from rc.local - BUT ifyou are using encrypted homes that may be another issue i just thought of.
[15:08] <iceroot> Etale: lubuntu
[15:09] <iceroot> Etale: if you want a light system based on ubuntu
[15:09] <maddinw> Dr_Willis: I do have /home encrypted.
[15:09] <sirriffsalot> L3top: I think I'll leave well enough alone for now, lol:D
[15:09] <sirriffsalot> L3top: thanks a million for your help!
[15:09] <L3top> mneptok: and mine is based on making all of these work without any user interaction at all... on any hardware with any display.
[15:09] <L3top> np sirriffsalot.
[15:09] <Dr_Willis> maddinw:  then even at boot up the key files wont be getting read i belive...
[15:09] <sirriffsalot> mneptok: you too, thanks for your time!
[15:09] <sirriffsalot> And everyone else:)
[15:09] <Orpheon> @L3top: I tried xorg edgers. I couldn't even configure the nvidia server settings, my entire screen was distorted, so I went back to nvidia-current
[15:09] <MestreLion> Dr_Willis: true, but a buggy Software CEnter that does not stick settings makes me a little worried about using it to buy software, for example
[15:09] <Dr_Willis> maddinw:  i never encrypt home. ;()
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> Etale: lubuntu is light, or install minimal then install fluxbox
[15:10] <mneptok> Orpheon: boot to a previous kernel and see if your nVidia drivers work there.
[15:10] <Orpheon> uhh
[15:10] <flowerpot> maddinw, if you put the script in your ~/.bashrc or ~/.bash_profile it won't start the tunnel until you log in...  if you're cool with root or whatever process init runs as owning the tunnel, then just remove the sudo su stuff and try again.  Also, FYI, sudo su isn't necessary; sudo can run commands as another user.
[15:10] <Orpheon> how do I boot to a previous kernel
[15:10] <Orpheon> ?
[15:10] <Dr_Willis> MestreLion:  i dont plan on ever buying anything via software center.. actually i rarelyuse software center
[15:10] <Orpheon> I have a few backups
[15:10] <Orpheon> of these last months /usr and /home
[15:10] <Orpheon> if that helps
[15:10] <zykotick9> Orpheon: hold SHIFT after BIOS to get grub menu
[15:10] <mneptok> Orpheon: <esc> early in the boot to get a boot menu
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> Orpheon: hold shift at boot then select the old kernel
[15:10] <Etale> iceroot, ActionParsnip, I see that on the wiki page of lubuntu it says: "low-RAM environment for netbooks, mobile devices and older PCs". My laptop is going to be a 8GB monster. Is it still a good option?
[15:10] <cristian_c> Hi
[15:10] <Orpheon> ok
[15:11] <L3top> again Orpheon that is bleeding edge stuff... whether or not that days release is stable on whatever specific card you have is a bit of a coin toss... I was not trying to recommend it for anything other than experiment.
[15:11] <MestreLion> good for you Dr_Willis.... But I still would like mine to work bug-free. Does anyone have any experience in Software CEnter settings and troubleshooting?
[15:11] <cristian_c> How can I enable pinch gesture on my touchpad with ubuntu?
[15:11] <iceroot> Etale: yes
[15:11] <Etale> I just don't want all the junk in Ubuntu that I will never use.
[15:11] <Etale> What would you say about Debian?
[15:11] <Dr_Willis> MestreLion: its also possible the slowdown/issues with the ubuntu servers are causing the problem.
[15:11] <maddinw> flowerpot: I will try it now without the sudo su stuff.
[15:11] <Etale> How close is the Debian experience from Ubuntu?
[15:11] <flowerpot> Etale, such as?  You may find that slightly more junk is preferable to slightly less junk on a desktop.
[15:11] <cristian_c> How can I use this page: http://askubuntu.com/questions/11300/how-do-i-test-multi-gesture-capabilities-of-a-touchpad for enabling pinch?
[15:11] <Dr_Willis> Etale:  depends on what desktopps you install. ;)
[15:12] <Etale> OXFCE
[15:12] <Etale> Sorry...
[15:12] <Etale> I meant I want XFCE with compiz.
[15:12] <zykotick9> Etale: while ubuntu and debian are technically very similar, the two projects have very different goals - and are thus "very different", though technically similar ;)
[15:12] <flowerpot> IMO Ubuntu tends to "just work" and Debian requires a little more effort.
[15:12] <Dr_Willis> why would you want xfce with compiz? xfce has its own window manager. ;0
[15:12] <Sidewinder> MestreLion, You might prefer Synaptic instead of Software Center; it's (Synaptic) in the repos.
[15:13] <Etale> zykotick9, I want an environment that is customizable, but also has the option of being easy to work with if I have to get something done fast.
[15:13] <MestreLion> Dr_Willis: maybe, but I think it's unlikely... I've tried yesterday and today, in very differnt hours
[15:13] <Dr_Willis> MestreLion:  the servers have been problematic for 3+ days now
[15:13] <Etale> Dr_Willis, because I really like compiz, and XFCE is the lightest window manager I could find. For example compiz doesn't work on fluxbox.
[15:13] <MestreLion> ... and it worked in a live session I've used yesterday
[15:13] <Dr_Willis> Etale:  xfce is a desktop that uses the xfwm window manager.
[15:14] <Dr_Willis> Etale:  fluxbox and compiz are both window managers...
[15:14] <Dr_Willis> Etale:  you can set up a compiz session to run whatever other extra programs you want and build your own desktop.
[15:14] <Etale> BTW, I hear that Gentoo has the best package repository. Is it possible to use those packages in Debian/Ubuntu?
[15:14] <Dr_Willis> Etale:  'best' is vague and debateable.
[15:15] <Dr_Willis> Etale:  they use a sourced based system. so its more up to date. but can still have problems. and no they are not  compatable with ubuntu
[15:15] <flowerpot> Etale, it's best not to mix packages between distros.  There are small differences that can muck up the results (e.g. different paths).
[15:15] <zykotick9> Etale: and gentoo doesn't typically use "packages", it's a source based distro
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> Etale: ubuntu minimal + fluxbox + slim comes in at about 1.2Gb  then you'll need a network manager app like wicd if you want to use wifi easily
[15:15] <Etale> Dr_Willis, I don't really understand. If I want compiz to work, and I want it to be as lightweight as possible, then what would you suggest?
[15:15] <Etale> flowerpot, thanks.
[15:15] <Dr_Willis> Etale:  compiz and lightweight are two very opposite things. :)
[15:15] <MestreLion> Sidewinder:  i'm an ubuntu user since Karmic... synaptic is great if I want an in-depth tech details on a given package.... but I still would like Software Center to work properly, specially regarding SSO
[15:15] <Dr_Willis> Etale:  if you want light  and a decently featured desktop = Lubuntu, then lxde/lubuntu,
[15:16] <Etale> ActionParsnip, what's the difference between Ubuntu minimal and lubuntu?
[15:16] <Dr_Willis> Etale:  lightest = just a widnow manager with no extra apps. ie openbox
[15:16] <Etale> Dr_Willis, but would compiz work on openbox?
[15:16] <zykotick9> Etale: mini is the debian net-installer (text only) - with LOTS of options, including installing a base non-gui system, then adding what you actually want.
[15:17] <ActionParsnip> Etale: minimal is just kernel + boot loader + drivers
[15:17] <MarcoFe> hi guys
[15:17] <Dr_Willis> Etale:  compiz and openbox are BOTH window managers..  they replace each other.
[15:17] <ActionParsnip> Etale: plus a few basic apps, all text based
[15:17] <theadmin> Etale: That doesn't even make sense. One window manager does not work "on" another window manager. You can't run two at the same time.
[15:17] <Dr_Willis> Etale:  linux is all about layers. ;)
[15:17] <Dr_Willis> desktop = a window manager + extra apps.
[15:17] <theadmin> Dr_Willis: Ha, that's a good one :)
[15:17] <MestreLion> besides, the new revamped Software Center is one of the major, key Ubuntu selling points... so it is a bit weird that instead of trying to help with it, you are suggesting a 10+ years software.
[15:17] <ActionParsnip> Etale: lubunu adds an x server, LXDE, openbox and some applications like web browser, office productivity etc
[15:18] <Dr_Willis> MestreLion:  most people seemt o hate the software center.
[15:18] <Dr_Willis> im getting where i like the android market even less and less. ;)
[15:18] <Orpheon> back
[15:18] <Orpheon> didn't help
[15:18] <MestreLion> and most people hate Unity. Still, this is #ubuntu. If you hate it, use something else
[15:18] <knutremi> I wrote a more in-depth explaination of my FTP + gedit problem in the Ubuntu pastebin.
[15:18] <Dr_Willis> its very likely the reccomendation servers are slow/down. i can barely get apt-get to even work for the last 4+ days
[15:18] <Etale> Let's say I install Debian. How different is that from installing lubuntu?
[15:19] <knutremi> !paste 997512
[15:19] <Sidewinder> MestreLion, I totally understand; my use of SC is not that extensive so I don't have a definitive answer for you, sorry. Synaptic has always met my needs so I am much more familiar with it. Please keep in mind that both Synaptic and Software Center are merely gui front ends for apt-get
[15:19] <knutremi> Uh that's not how I paste?
[15:19] <knutremi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/997512/
[15:19] <Dr_Willis> and apt-get update - has been going on here for like 40 min now.. normally takes 40 sec. ;(
[15:19] <MestreLion> Dr_Willis: that is not the problem. If I re-open SC, it suggests me trying to Turn On recommendations again, so that setting is not being saved
[15:20] <MarcoFe> i've a problem with my audio...for example when use it with skype or google+ plugin to conference chat, after a bit time, audio is mute...anyone have this problem?
[15:20] <vexaxv> hey guys im using ubuntu 12.04 and got this error when trying to install "ia32-libs" through synaptic "Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/e/eglibc/libc6_2.15-0ubuntu10_i386.deb" what do i do?
[15:20] <Dr_Willis> MestreLion:  ive seen cases where people runs tuff as root and it writes config files to the users home.
[15:20] <Dr_Willis> vexaxv:  servers have been real slow last few days. try it again.
[15:21] <g0th> hi
[15:21] <Etale> How close is Sabayon to the Ubuntu experience?
[15:21] <Dr_Willis> vexaxv:  or switch to a non us server.
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: my quantal install does that, sloooow over wifi
[15:21] <L3top> !poll | Etale
[15:21] <vexaxv> Dr_Willis, thanks, and how do i switch?
[15:21] <g0th> in unity, how do I make it that if I fullscreen a window it is put on the "right side" of the left panel?
[15:21] <Dr_Willis> vexaxv:  not sure of the proper way these days
[15:21] <g0th> at the moment the panel will appear on top of the window
[15:21] <vexaxv> Dr_Willis, k well ill keep trying thanks man just got off my 14 hour shift so sweet and simple answer :P
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> vexaxv: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PackageManagerTroubleshootingProcedure  see step 5
[15:22] <maddinw> Its me again. It worked now. Thank you very much Dr_Willis and flowerpot.
[15:22] <tieinv> Dr_Willis: sudo apt-get update   Fetched 6,687 kB in 1min 1s (108 kB/s) :)
[15:22] <Dr_Willis> there used to be a mirrorselect tool
[15:22] <L3top> Dr_Willis: I think something funny is going on with the repos. People have been complaining the last few days about speed.
[15:22] <g0th> is there a configuration tool about how the panel behaves with respect to a (fullscreened or not) window
[15:22] <Dr_Willis> tieinv:  i was getting stuff in B/sec the other day
[15:23] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[15:23] <MestreLion> Sidewinder: I'm aware of that. And I think that nowadays Synaptics is a little lost... newbies prefer SC, and it's great because of the reviews (if you don't know *what* you want, you search for it). Skilled users go Aptitude or apt-get. So Synaptics use-case now is a bit weak
[15:23] <L3top> You can add deb mirror://mirrors.ubuntu.com/mirrors.txt  $DISTRO main restricted universe multiverse    et al to the top of your /etc/apt/sources.list and it will find the closest best it can
[15:23] <MestreLion> even aptitude has an experimental gtk frontend
[15:24] <L3top> replacing $DISTRO with your distribution.
[15:24] <morsnowski> is there a specific make or model for hybrid TV cards that runs on ubuntu with the least amount of wrestling?
[15:24] <Sidewinder> MestreLion, As you so accurately stated earlier, it's all about choices. :)
[15:24] <Etale> Okay... Look, I'm a novice. I want to install something that is bare-bones but has the potential to be customized to the point of being easy to use. (Which also means that I want the possibility of using binary packages as opposed to bare-bones Gentoo.) Since this is an Ubuntu chatroom, I figured it would be a good place to get advice about Ubuntu-related distros. Ultimately, after some
[15:24] <Etale> customization, I want an Ubuntu-like environment. But I would also like to be bare-bones and customizable and for it to have a very good repository of packages.
[15:24] <knutremi> I'm better off posting about my gedit + FTP problem in the Ubuntu forums right?
[15:24] <theadmin> Etale: Use the minimal Ubuntu setup, simple as that -- install only things you want from that point on
[15:24] <deejay31> Yay I finally managed to transfer all my stuff to ubuntu
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> Etale: install ubuntu minimal then install fluxbox, its as barebomes a desktop as it goes
[15:25] <Etale> theadmin, thanks.
[15:25] <MestreLion> so for me synaptics is a weak software... it is less friendly than SC, it has no reviews, and it has less features than aptitude or apt-get
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> Etale: did say that earlier...
[15:25] <L3top> This channel is for tech support of ubuntu. Asking whether or not you should install other distributions is not its purpose Etale. Your queries are going to receieve arbitrary answers and they are clogging up the channel. Try ubuntu-offtopic or bots.
[15:25] <Etale> In what sense is bare-bones Ubuntu different from bare-bones Debian? Does Debian also have same repository for apt-get, but also has more customizability?
[15:26] <Sidewinder> knutremi, That would be my suggestion; if your question is not answered to your satisfaction here, try ubuntuforms.org.
[15:26] <Etale> Okay, L3top.
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> Etale: ubuntu and debian repos are seperate
[15:26] <Karmaon> is ppa.launchpad.net down?
[15:26] <Etale> ActionParsnip, which is bigger?
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> Etale: no idea, why do you care?
[15:26] <Sidewinder> oops, ubuntuforums.org.   Sorry. :(
[15:26] <MestreLion> Etale: both have live CDs... try them out
[15:26] <Etale> The more the better.
[15:26] <theadmin> Etale: Debian and Ubuntu are *unrelated*. They use different repositories, Debian is much less up-to-date most of the time (especially the "stable" branch), the two are incompatible.
[15:27] <Etale> Okay.
[15:27] <ActionParsnip> Etale: not strictly
[15:27] <MestreLion> "debian is less up-to-date" is very innacurate info. unstable and testing are usually much more up-to-date than Ubuntu, since they are rolling repos
[15:27] <L3top> http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ Karmaon
[15:27] <L3top> looks like it is
[15:28] <flowerpot> maddinw, pleasure to be of help
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> Etale: Ubuntu could compile every app with minimal functionality, then Debian could compile the same with every feature enabled with zero optomisation. Which is better?
[15:28] <theadmin> MestreLion: I *did* mention the stable branch specifically.
[15:28] <MestreLion> Etale: mos of your questions are easily answered by either google OR by trying out their live CD.
[15:28] <y0wy-> Karmaon: http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ppa.launchpad.net
[15:28] <amirzaim_> Even though that Ubuntu is based from Debian, but both Ubuntu and Debian are not same. They have some different function and features.
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> Karmaon: do you mean this https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas works here
[15:29] <theadmin> However, please note that this channel is for Ubuntu support *only*, Debian (and especially stuff like Gentoo) are highly offtopic here
[15:29] <Karmaon> ActionParsnip: no the repositories are down, so i can't update some of my packages
[15:29] <Krenair> Is there any easy way to have two versions of a package (e.g. google-chrome-stable and google-chrome-unstable) installed at the same time?
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> Karmaon: then hang while they come up, could ask in #launchpad
[15:29] <MestreLion> theadmin: you said "specially", not "specifically. Debian's Testing and Unstable repos are always more bleeding edge than Ubuntu's, by definition. They are rolling distros, Ubuntu is not
[15:30] <theadmin> MestreLion: Bah, pardon my wording. Well yes, you're right. However, please look at my previous message. Debian is offtopic here.
[15:31] <MestreLion> youre right. I also suggested Etale to either google or to try live cds... much better than asking here
[15:31] <flowerpot> Krenair, http://serverfault.com/questions/279329/can-i-have-two-versions-of-the-same-package-in-an-apt-repository
[15:32] <xtu> hi, how to read new in command line in ubuntu?
[15:32] <flowerpot> Krenair, see the "Caveat" in the reply
[15:32] <MestreLion> So, back to Ubuntu... anyone experienced in troubleshooting one of its flagship products, the Software Center? I would like where it stores its settings, how can I reset it, and find out why some settings are not "sticking"
[15:32] <flowerpot> xtu, what do you mean by "read new in command"?
[15:33] <Orpheon> also to ubuntu, where could I get some 32-bit opengl libraries?
[15:33] <Orpheon> Wine needs them apparently
[15:33] <xtu> flowerpot,  well, i want to read news in command line, or in console, not gui.
[15:34] <MestreLion> Orpheon: doesn't apt-get wine download them automatically?
[15:34] <Orpheon> well
[15:34] <Orpheon> I tried reinstalling wine
[15:34] <Orpheon> but it still complains that it can't initialize opengl
[15:34] <Orpheon> people in #winehq have been saying that's because I'm lacking opengl 32 bit libs
[15:34] <L3top> Orpheon: have you gone into wine configuration? I don't really use it, but you may have to tick something there
[15:34] <Orpheon> well, yeah
[15:35] <compdoc> is opengl something you have to install seperatly?
[15:35] <Orpheon> there isn't anything besides enabling/disabling hardware acceleration that has anything to do with this
[15:35] <Orpheon> also
[15:35] <naxil> hello
[15:35] <Orpheon> I tried editing the wine registry, DirectDrawRenderer to gdi
[15:35] <Orpheon> didn't work either
[15:35] <naxil> i need a little help
[15:36] <naxil> for enter on monitor setup from Terminal? i have cancel the "monitor Setup" from panel (gnome)
[15:36] <Deihmos> isn't it strange that ubuntu works much better virtually that installed on my laptop? WHen I install it my fans go crazy, sound barely works and a host of other problems
[15:36] <flowerpot> xtu, you would use  a newsreader, i imagine.  tons of newsreaders are available on ubuntu; since i don't use them myself i cannot recommend any, but google probably can.
[15:36] <sirriffsalot> L3top: I wonder... i've got cpufreq installed, but I can't get it to run at 2.40Ghz, it always goes back to 1.20ghz or so... Is there a graphical user interface for configuring this?
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> Deihmos: probably some weird acpi
[15:37] <xtu> flowerpot, ok, i got it, thanks.
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> Deihmos: is it an acer or an alienware?
[15:37] <Deihmos> I have an HP envy that has two video cards
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> Deihmos: that'll do it too
[15:37] <vexaxv> anyone know why in ubuntu 12.04 the shutdown process hangs? im forced to hold down my power button..kinda annoying..
[15:37] <L3top> sirriffsalot: cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep -i cores
[15:37] <flowerpot> vexaxv, does it hang when you run shutdown -h now from a terminal?
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> vexaxv: if you run: sudo shutdown -h now     does it die?
[15:38] <vexaxv> errr..lemme try
[15:38] <vexaxv> ill get back to u guys in a sec
[15:38] <xtu> hi, is usernet is not free to use?
[15:38] <angel282> Hello, I recently got a dedicated server with ubuntu 10.04 LTS (lucid) and I was wondering if it possible to upgrade the server to higher version using the ssh and idea? or good tutorial?
[15:38] <vexaxv> no
[15:39] <sirriffsalot> L3top: cpu cores    : 2 cpu cores    : 2
[15:39] <vexaxv> Try `shutdown --help' for more information. thats what i get
[15:39] <zykotick9> vexaxv: try "sudo shutdown -P now", if -h doesn't work
[15:39] <deejay31> Hey
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade | angel282
[15:39] <vexaxv> nope
[15:39] <vexaxv> wont shutdown
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> angel282: you can upgrade straight to precise from lucid
[15:40] <deejay31> Who here uses a ZNC
[15:40] <theadmin> vexaxv: Try appending "reboot=bios" to the kernel line.
[15:40] <vexaxv> if i click shutdown it hangs at the ubuntu loading splash screen
[15:40] <IdleOne> deejay31: people in #znc do
[15:40] <vexaxv> k i did
[15:40] <deejay31> Oh ok
[15:40] <deejay31> Grrrr
[15:41] <Kaduptm> vexaxv try this: sudo gedit /etc/default/grub
[15:41] <zykotick9> !gksudo | Kaduptm vexaxv
[15:42] <maikls> hi. were ubuntu saves wifi config? Like I made adhoc AP, but I want to see the config file. Were should I look for it?
[15:42] <sirriffsalot> L3top: what was that for?:D
[15:42] <theadmin> Kaduptm: Please refrain from using "sudo" and "su" for graphical applications. Use their GUI counterparts, "gksudo" and "gksu".
[15:42] <Kaduptm> and change: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet acpi=force"
[15:42] <zykotick9> maikls: Network Manager doesn't save the wireless to a file... it's stored in a protected database (by default)
[15:43] <Kaduptm> ok... my bad
[15:43] <flowerpot> maikls, not sure what you mean by "wifi config," but the DHCP config stuff is located in files like /var/lib/dhcp/dhclient-2203de08-09c1-4415-a03c-882ba4217f8c-eth0.lease
[15:43] <vexaxv> k now what
[15:43] <flowerpot> there should be an entry for your wlan
[15:43] <L3top> sirriffsalot: I am not sure... I am having a senior moment, I don't know if that 2.4 is supposed to be cumulative of the multiple cores, or if what you are reading should be the combined speed. I am still waking up... I am grabbing cpufreq now, have never used it.
[15:43] <maikls> flowerpot: thx, zykotick9  - i dont need password, I just want to see how that ad-hoc configuration looks in .conf file
[15:43] <vexaxv> Kaduptm, now what
[15:43] <sirriffsalot> L3top: cool! Thanks for your time!
[15:44] <angel282> ActionParsnip: Great... action.. I tried to upgrade using the "sudo do-release-upgrade" command but I get "no new release found. I think it because the hosting company changed the sources.list any idea? should I changed it back to the ubuntu main source.list?
[15:44] <flowerpot> maikls, maybe the ip command?
[15:44] <zykotick9> angel282: LTS->LTS Upgrades aren't offerend (by default) until the point release (sometime next couple of months)
[15:45] <zykotick9> !schedule | angel282
[15:46] <maikls> flowerpot: that gives me not what I want. The whole idea is - I'm runing gentoo but on 2nd laptop ubuntu. And I just not cannot make working adhoc on gentoo system, but on ubuntu its working like a charm. I just want to se what i'm doing wrong in gentoo - to compare  both .conf files.
[15:46] <L3top> wow repos are braindamage slow...
[15:46] <sirriffsalot> :D
[15:46] <L3top> sirriffsalot: not to be silly... but is your scaling multiplier right in bios?
[15:47] <sirriffsalot> L3top: qué?
[15:47] <maikls> flowerpot: in gentoo it saves it in /etc/conf.d/net
[15:47] <maikls> but in ubuntu it is empty
[15:47] <y0wy-> maikls, did u try: ps aux, just to see the command?
[15:47] <sirriffsalot> L3top: the bios I have in this computer is dated 2009 ... might be outdated, but how do I check if that is so?
[15:48] <maikls> y0wy-: what does ps aux do? ;/
[15:48] <flowerpot> try ps - ef
[15:48] <zykotick9> maikls: i realize you don't believe me (or don't want to) - but N-M doesn't save stuff to config files...
[15:48] <maikls> zykotick9:  ok, will try in different way
[15:48] <L3top> the multiplier in bios which sets the clock speed... bioses can be very diffrerent. I would look at a manual for your board/computer
[15:49] <theadmin> zykotick9: Uh, in Linux everything is a file. Even if NetworkManager uses some awkward gnome pseudo-registry thing such as dconf or gconf, those still store their data in files. If not those, what else?
[15:49] <sirriffsalot> L3top: not sure there is a function of that kind in my bios at all...
[15:49] <zykotick9> theadmin: yes yes - thanks for that totally unhelpful comment ;)
[15:49] <jm> in unix, even Jesus is a file
[15:49] <theadmin> zykotick9: No, I'm just trying to understand your point -- *where* does NetworkManager store configuration?
[15:50] <Kaduptm> anyone have this problem?! ubuntu tweak 0.7.1 doesnt save cong after reboot...
[15:51] <zykotick9> theadmin: N-M reliese on some DM protected files (somewhere).  N-M can't do wireless without GDM/LightDM/KDM/etc. because of the permissions on saving the wireless info/credentials
[15:51] <L3top> there pretty much has to be... if it can take different chips... I mean... maybe ions dont have them or integrated cpus... I dont know... I don't use those guys as anything but plug n play slim clients... I open the bios and set it to pxe boot and thats it.
[15:51] <theadmin> zykotick9: Now *that* is one weird way to store configurations, indeed >.<
[15:51] <zykotick9> theadmin: i have a word for it - but it's not #ubuntu permitted ;)
[15:52] <sirriffsalot> L3top: checking again then... rebooting:D
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> Kaduptm: I suggest you contact the ubuntu tweak maintainers
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: ${HOME}/.gconf/system/networking/connections/   according to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1043039
[15:54] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: Hm, but that's just gnome's gconf thing
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: sure
[15:55] <vitald> Hello, can someone help me with setup a microphone?
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> !details | vitald
[15:58] <AminosAmigos> Hello
[15:58] <naxil> hello
[15:58] <vitald> I'm running Xubuntu 12.04 (updated). When I try to record a sound through my microphone I got a noise. I tried it in Audacity
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> vitald: is it anything like the original sound?
[15:58] <naxil> please i have a strange problem. I see the name of my monitor (i have two monitor). What i can do for not see the name on screen? i use gnome 10.04
[15:58] <bedreamer> Anybody mind if I use this channel to learn about IRC
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> vitald: is the microphone part of a laptop?
[15:58] <AminosAmigos> is it possible to reposition the icons in th unity launcher ?
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> AminosAmigos: sure, long click then move it up or down
[15:59] <maddinw> Hello again...
[15:59] <sirriffsalot> L3top: I really can't find any such function in the BIOS...
[15:59] <vitald> mic isn't on laptop, sound is but with noise
[16:00] <L3top> sirriffsalot: where are you getting the 1.2 from?
[16:00] <sirriffsalot> Running an acer aspire x3200machine ..
[16:00] <AminosAmigos> LoL at first it only moved the hole launcher but now it worked strange :D thnx ActionParsnip
[16:00] <sirriffsalot> L3top: The 1.2?
[16:00] <maddinw> I have been here a bit before and I would like to ask another question.
[16:00] <L3top> ghz.
[16:00] <sirriffsalot> L3top: Ah, from cpufreq-info -m
[16:00] <deejay31> How can I remove the ubuntu documentation message on logon?
[16:00] <maddinw> flowerpot: maybe you remember me ;)
[16:01] <maddinw> I have taken flowerpots advice and put the command to open the tunnel into ~/.bashrc
[16:01] <sirriffsalot> L3top: it shows two "analyzing CPU:" sections and both say "current CPU frequency is 1.20 GHz."
[16:01] <maddinw> But not when I open up a console it throws an error message that it can't listen to the port the tunnel runs on.
[16:02] <maddinw> .peak
[16:02] <bedreamer> I'm using irsii. Is it easy to suppress all the 'has joined' messages?
[16:03] <zykotick9> !quietirssii | bedreamer
[16:03] <maddinw> Is there any way I can make it check for an existing tunnel and not try to open it if it finds one?
[16:03] <zykotick9> !quietirssi | bedreamer
[16:03] <small> it's very hard to find new soft which i just installed at ubuntu 12.04
[16:03] <small> hard to use
[16:03] <sirriffsalot> L3top: you given up too?:D
[16:04] <theadmin> bedreamer: /ignore * JOINS PARTS QUITS NICKS
[16:04] <Orpheon> does anyone have any more ideas for my wine/opengl problems?
[16:04] <bedreamer> Thanks ubottu. Much better :-)
[16:04] <sirriffsalot> Orpheon: what's the problem?
[16:04] <naxil> bedreamer not run
[16:04] <L3top> sirriffsalot: no... I am trying to figure out how to use this tool... and I am in a few other chats atm.. just be patient with me.
[16:04] <Orpheon> I run some exe with wine through console: this error log
[16:05] <zykotick9> theadmin: i didn't know you could wildcard the channel!  thanks!
[16:05] <sirriffsalot> L3top: I do apologize, haha:)
[16:05] <Orpheon> http://pastebin.com/RHEqt9xD
[16:05] <Orpheon> in particular, three lines
[16:05] <theadmin> zykotick9: lol um, no problem?
[16:05] <sirriffsalot> Orpheon: what exe?
[16:05] <Orpheon> 345
[16:05] <Orpheon> a game
[16:05] <L3top> sirriffsalot: all I have available is cpufreqd... and that command is not recognized... and... I am very tired.
[16:05] <Orpheon> made in Game Maker
[16:05] <naxil> hello
[16:05] <Orpheon> it worked before an update I made a few days ago
[16:05] <sirriffsalot> Orpheon: oh, hmm
[16:06] <Orpheon> ubuntu 12.04 64-bit here
[16:06] <sirriffsalot> L3top: alright, sleep well:)
[16:06] <sirriffsalot> Orpheon: You're trying to run your own made game?
[16:06] <Orpheon> good night
[16:06] <Orpheon> well, almost
[16:06] <Orpheon> yes
[16:06] <Orpheon> I use it as a test now
[16:06] <Orpheon> because it's always worked before
[16:06] <L3top> sirriffsalot: I am still working... just not waking up... I can't sleep atm...
[16:07] <Orpheon> and because it takes little time to execute
[16:07] <mafiaboy> ubuntu 12.04 too unstable for now as compared to 10.04
[16:07] <DoctorMonocular> hey L3Top, a little update -- I tried putting that new config info into .bash_profile, and .profile, and I thought I'd cracked the case when I found at the end of my .bashrc file a line refining the PATH, but removing that didn't help. So I'm still at the point where I can run ruby if I manually source bash_profile when I open a terminal, and I still can't run rails because it's looking for a wonky path to ruby1.8. What do you
[16:07] <DoctorMonocular> think could cause bash_profile to not load?
[16:07] <sirriffsalot> L3top: oh, well don't beat yourself up, I'm happy!
[16:07] <Orpheon> Game Maker itself, or programs that do not use directX, run well
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> mafiaboy: look at how mature Lucid is compared to Precise
[16:07] <Darael> Having a problem on several machines since they were upgraded to Precise.  The settings for keyboard layouts are ignored, and the layout is permamently set to whatever the default for that account was before the upgrade, but behaves as though all the check-boxes under "options" were unset.  The other layouts I have configured are selectable from the indicator, but doing so has sod all effect.  That means I can't access QWERTY layouts 
[16:07] <L3top> wolfcore might be able to help you... I was unaware of bash_profiles existence/use
[16:07] <sirriffsalot> Orpheon: Hmm, wine is very explicit in detailing events, most of those lines are insignificant to the actual problem as far as I  know... But I really have no idea how what you're trying to do works
[16:08] <DoctorMonocular> L3top, is he around?
[16:08] <mafiaboy> ActionParsnip : yea but i switched to it thinking that it would be stable
[16:08] <sirriffsalot> Orpheon: only thing I can suggest is to undo what you did to when it was working
[16:08] <mafiaboy> crashes a lot
[16:08] <Orpheon> sirriffsalot: I tried un- and reinstalling pretty much everything I could possibly think of
[16:08] <Orpheon> asking around
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> mafiaboy: upgrade or clean install?
[16:08] <Orpheon> and googling around
[16:08] <sirriffsalot> Orpheon: backup files, reinstall entire ubuntu?:)
[16:08] <Orpheon> most of the people told me I need a 32-bit opengl lib
[16:08] <L3top> he does not make me aware of his whereabouts since he got loose from his chain.
[16:09] <Orpheon> I have backups of /home and /usr
[16:09] <Orpheon> of a month ago
[16:09] <Darael> DoctorMonocular: As I recall, .profile and family only load in a login shell, which your standard terminal emulator is not.  Stick the lines (whatever they are; I just came in) in .bashrc instead?
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> Orpheon: backup /etc too
[16:09] <Orpheon> I'll do so from now on, ok
[16:09] <Orpheon> also
[16:10] <Orpheon> I tried copy-pasting some libs from the backup into my current /usr
[16:10] <flowerpot> maddinw, yes
[16:10] <Orpheon> is this bad?
[16:10] <DoctorMonocular> L3top, you need to keep track of these things man, you're falling down on the job here
[16:10] <mafiaboy> ActionParsnip : i did a fresh install
[16:10] <Prsm> Where should I go for general computer talk?
[16:11] <L3top> sirriffsalot: cat /proc/cpu | grep -i mhz
[16:11] <flowerpot> One way to check, if you're using IPv4, would be: lsof -i 4TCP@remotehost:22
[16:11] <sirriffsalot> L3top: cat: /proc/cpu: No such file or directory
[16:11] <L3top> sirriffsalot: cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep -i mhz
[16:11] <L3top> sorry
[16:11] <sirriffsalot> L3top: mate, you're helping a lot of people, great, but sleep is important!!
[16:11] <Orpheon> 8 hours per sleep
[16:12] <Orpheon> is what you usually need
[16:12] <L3top> I am in charge of a baby... cant sleep.
[16:12] <DoctorMonocular> Darael, yeah I did that, and it works, but I was afraid I was doing something wrong, I'm really new to all this and I don't know exactly where stuff should sit
[16:12] <sirriffsalot> L3top: cpu MHz        : 1200.000 power management: ts ttp tm stc 100mhzsteps hwpstate cpu MHz        : 1200.000 power management: ts ttp tm stc 100mhzsteps hwpstate
[16:12] <flowerpot> 4 - specifies IPv4 (6 would specify IPv6).  TCP - specifies TCP (as opposed to UDP).  @remotehost - the hostname of the remote host.  :22 - specifies the port, in this case 22 for ssh
[16:12] <ugur> hede
[16:12] <sirriffsalot> L3top: should have slept before that then=(
[16:13] <Prsm> can someone please telnet 80.229.207.254 50007 and see if it works?
[16:14] <L3top> speaking of which he is waking up, so I will be less avail... look for a manual on your PC and check bios settings explained there sirriffsalot... afk
[16:14] <jellybellie> Im using Ubuntu classic, 12.04, And IM stuck in chinese. PLEASE HELP.
[16:14] <sirriffsalot> L3top: cheers:)
[16:14] <Diddy403> Im having a problem where I don't have an option for Appearance --> Visual Effects on Ubuntu. I have installed the AMD Proprietary Driver and all is working, but I cant add visual effects
[16:14] <jellybellie> some in english, most in chinese
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> Merceng: connects ok
[16:15] <jellybellie> gnome-shell actually
[16:15] <theadmin> Merceng: I connected, but it doesn't ask for anything, just a hanging connection
[16:15] <jellybellie> no idea why it switched
[16:15] <Merceng> ok
[16:15] <Merceng> disconnect please
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> Merceng: done
[16:15] <Merceng> it's spamming me for some reason
[16:15] <theadmin> Merceng: Done.
[16:16] <jellybellie> I dont speak chinese :(
[16:16] <Merceng> 82.9.34.77
[16:16] <Merceng> please d/c
[16:16] <terafl0ps> jellybellie, can you click on your username in the upper right hand corner and open "system settings"
[16:17] <terafl0ps> There should be a "language support" option in there.
[16:17] <armence>  /join #python-dev
[16:17] <jellybellie> terafl0ps: I can get terminal
[16:17] <jellybellie> I think its gnome-shell
[16:17] <shukty> hi i need a fast hint ... i lost some files  and i need them back. .... os windows7 ( not this computer .... )
[16:17] <sw0rdfish> hey my wifi network is the one that has internet... and so if I connect to it and connect to a LAN with an ethernet cable will my 12.04 automatically figure out which one has internet?
[16:18] <Darael> Having a problem on several machines since they were upgraded to Precise.  The settings for keyboard layouts are ignored, and the layout is permamently set to whatever the default for that account was before the upgrade, but behaves as though all the check-boxes under "options" were unset.  The other layouts I have configured are selectable from the indicator, but doing so has sod all effect.  That means I can't access QWERTY layouts 
[16:18] <jellybellie> terafl0ps: got it
[16:18] <sw0rdfish> and use that for internet?
[16:18] <Diddy403> Im having a problem where I don't have an option for Appearance --> Visual Effects on Ubuntu. I have installed the AMD Proprietary Driver and all is working, but I cant add visual effects. Using Precise
[16:18] <terafl0ps> jellybellie: Great, did everything switch back to English?
[16:18] <theadmin> shukty: Windows is not supported here, try ##windows (other than that, Testdisk (Photorec, rather), Recuva and some other file recovery software can help)
[16:18] <jellybellie> no
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> shukty: use your backups, windows support is in ##windows
[16:20] <sw0rdfish> hey my wifi network is the one that has internet... and so if I connect to it and connect to a LAN with an ethernet cable will my 12.04 automatically figure out which one has internet? .... and use that for internet?
[16:20] <terafl0ps> jellybellie: if you go into "install/remove languages" what languages are checked ?
[16:20] <kjm> ##windows
[16:20] <Darael> jellybellie: I'm not entirely sure about gnome-shell, but the Unity search will often match the English name even when you're in another language, so searching for "language" will usually turn the language-settings tool up.
[16:21] <jellybellie> terafl0ps: not sure
[16:21] <jellybellie> in chinese, most, except top three
[16:21] <sw0rdfish> and I'm hoping I could share the wifi internet with my desktop (either through a LAN router or connect them directly to each other)
[16:21] <theadmin> !ics | sw0rdfish
[16:22] <Diddy403> !compiz
[16:22] <delac> Mobile broadband (3G usb stick) is always disabled on boot or after inserting the stick. This prevents the connection from starting automatically. Any way to set Mobile broadband to enabled by default?
[16:22] <abhijitrucks> hi
[16:22] <jellybellie> terafl0ps: how many down is english?
[16:22] <abhijitrucks> how do i change launcher hot edge to bottom cornor?
[16:22] <flowerpot> maddinw, you can also use netstat to check what processes are using what tcp ports (over ipv4) with: netstat -4tap
[16:23] <jellybellie> I see Chhattisgarhi, chinese, Min Nan, Mari, Eastern, Shuswap, and Walser, the rest of the list is in chinese
[16:23] <maddinw> flowerpot: thank you...this will be helpful.
[16:23] <jellybellie> swear to god, it just changed, no idea why
[16:23] <flowerpot> -4 = limit to ipv4.  -t = limit to tcp.  -a = show all connections, listening and otherwise.  -p = show process name
[16:23] <abhijitrucks> :-|
[16:23] <terafl0ps> jellybellie, I count English as th 36th language in the list.
[16:24] <flowerpot> doesn't look like netstat can filter on its own by port # like lsof, so you'd have to grep, sed, awk, or perl yourself some extra detail for the script logic
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> flowerpot: ooh like that, making an alias now :)
[16:24] <terafl0ps> in the "installed languages" list
[16:24] <kjm> quit
[16:25] <maddinw> I did netstat -4tap | grep 8000
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> flowerpot: was going to make a UDP joke too but couldn't be sure you got it :D
[16:25] <abhijitrucks> huh?
[16:25] <Darael> ActionParsnip: That's /terrible/.
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> Darael: lots
[16:26] <jellybellie> argh, the repos are lagging
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> jellybellie: tried apt-fast ?
[16:26] <jellybellie> ActionParsnip: what is that?
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> jellybellie: a script to replace apt-get, uses axel
[16:27] <jellybellie> I thought you were kidding...
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> jellybellie: downloads from multiple sources
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> jellybellie: its a thingf
[16:27] <jellybellie> apt is usually fast, the ubuntu repos are lagging hard for me.
[16:27] <stiltzkin> Hello all, this is not a critical issue or anything (this is basically throwaway hardware) but I'm wondering why 12.04 is randomly freezing on my old desktop computer. I did tail -f /var/log/syslog to see what's happening when it freezes, here's what it looks like: http://i.imgur.com/Wstm3.jpg
[16:28] <jellybellie> terafl0ps: what language pack is english?
[16:28] <jellybellie> language-pack-???-base
[16:28] <Darael> jellybellie: en, probably.  Possibly en-$COUNTRYCODE.
[16:28] <stiltzkin> As you can see, it just keeps trying to enumerate USB devices with MTP for some reason. I don't have any devices that use MTP attached, so this is confusing. Basically I just want to understand whether this is most likely hardware or software related.
[16:28] <sebastian> hello, i need some help with gsynaptics
[16:29] <cristi22> hei i instal windows over ubuntu 12.04 and i want to reinstal grub haw i can do?
[16:29] <Darael> !grub | cristi22
[16:29] <bost> hey man do you see me?
[16:29] <n1ckn4me09876543> I downloaded Soundblaster X-Fi linux driver, now I have to install it, the readme file tells me: << In terminal,
[16:29] <n1ckn4me09876543> 1) Goto source directory
[16:29] <n1ckn4me09876543>  2) Execute make command as root
[16:29] <n1ckn4me09876543>   make
[16:29] <n1ckn4me09876543>     make install >> what's the command to install programs/driver
[16:29] <FloodBot1> n1ckn4me09876543: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:29] <jellybellie> Darael: no
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> jellybellie: sudo apt-get install axel
[16:29] <BostX> yea I do
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> jellybellie: then visit here: http://www.mattparnell.com/linux/apt-fast/
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> jellybellie: grab apt-fast.sh and mark it as executable, I suggest you rename it to apt-fast and copy it to /usr/bin
[16:30] <jellybellie> sh@, I installed Kashubian
[16:30] <Darael> jellybellie: en is definitely the language code used in packages for US English.  I think UK English is en-gb.
[16:30] <sebastian> hey guys i need some help, i can't initialize gsynaptics, and i cant find the xorg.conf archive
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> jellybellie: you can then use:  sudo apt-fast upgrade
[16:30] <flowerpot> maddinw, if you're running netstat to check for a tcp connection from localhost:someport to remotehost:8000, then you don't need to include -a in netstat
[16:30] <jellybellie> Darael: what package do you have installed?
[16:30] <terafl0ps> jelliebellie, What happened when you tried to reset English in the "language support" tool ?
[16:30] <DoctorMonocular> so, when I run "rails c" I get this error: bash: /usr/local/bin/rails: /usr/bin/ruby1.8: bad interpreter: No such file or directory -- which seems like it's looking for ruby on the path "/usr/local/bin/rails: /usr/bin/ruby1.8" which is obviously wrong. It looks like there's an extra space in a config file somewhere -- where might that file be?
[16:30] <jellybellie> ActionParsnip: I will definitely try it.
[16:31] <jellybellie> language-pack-??
[16:31] <Darael> jellybellie: language-pack-en and language-pack-en-base.
[16:31] <jellybellie> k
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> jellybellie: newer version here https://github.com/ilikenwf/apt-fast
[16:31] <flowerpot> DoctorMonocular, someone else had the same problem yesterday. I don't know how his case turned out, but it's probably not a problem specific to your case.
[16:31] <jellybellie> Darael: ubuntu 12.04?
[16:32] <Darael> ActionParsnip: Axel works these days, then?  Last time I looked at it (about four years ago, I confess) it liked to segfault.
[16:32] <Darael> jellybellie: That's right.  Been the same since forever, though.
[16:32] <stiltzkin> Anyone know what this "udevd failed to execute mtp-probe" means? http://i.imgur.com/Wstm3.jpg
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> jellybellie: ok stick to the first one :)
[16:33] <jellybellie> this makes no sense, I didnt install anything...
[16:33] <jellybellie> ActionParsnip: I will try it
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> Darael: works great here
[16:33] <jellybellie> but now, Im trying to get english back [:
[16:33] <abhijitrucks> unity is getting ridiculus on ubuntu 12.04... :( i am gonna try gnome 3
[16:33] <Darael> ActionParsnip: Good to know.  Four years is, after all, a long time.
[16:33] <jellybellie> I cannot read the git hub in chinese
[16:33] <abkarch> hey guys. I just installed ubuntu 12.04 on my laptop and everything went fine. I then used easyBCD from windows to add it to the boot list. Anyway, upon choosing to boot ubuntu, i get a black screen. I dont get a purple ubuntu loading screen before it or anything, it just goes straight to a black screen. If this helps at all, pressing the power button instantly turns off the laptop, which in my experience usually means no OS is boot
[16:34] <stiltzkin> abkarch, have you tried recovery mode?
[16:34] <jellybellie> this is crazy
[16:34] <smerz> abkarch, also check disk activity to verify your theory
[16:35] <smerz> (to be sure. never hurts)
[16:35] <abhijitrucks> whoa!!! how do i install gnome in ubuntu 12.04??? help! terminal says gnome-shell is not available
[16:35] <jellybellie> k, its not change to english
[16:35] <Darael> abkarch: Is there any reason you didn't just use GRUB for the main bootloader?  I don't think the Windows bootloader understands Linux, and chainloading GRUB from it requires dumping a grub image to a file, or did last time I tried, about six months ago.
[16:35] <abkarch> im not really an experienced linux user, how would i use GRUB?
[16:36] <abhijitrucks> someone help... how do i install gnome???
[16:36] <jellybellie> its select to english
[16:36] <jellybellie> but not english
[16:36] <Darael> abkarch: It should have been installed with Ubuntu.  If it wasn't, something strange has been going on.  Did you use WUBI?  (the "install inside windows" option).
[16:36] <abkarch> I burnt to a CD
[16:36] <zykotick9> !notunity | abhijitrucks
[16:37] <abkarch> its probably there, i dont know how to use it Darsel
[16:37] <Darael> !grub | abkarch: See also
[16:37] <jellybellie> and I cannot select the window text to to translate
[16:37] <terafl0ps> jellybellie, this may help: http://i45.tinypic.com/2r3y2xk.png
[16:37] <stiltzkin> abhijitrucks, sudo apt-get install gnome-shell last time I checked
[16:38] <Darael> abkarch: Incidentally, the tab key will autocomplete a nick, which is great for time-saving and making sure of spelling.  Unfortunately, I have to go (unexpected, my apologies) but I hope someone can sort you out.
[16:38] <jellybellie> lookin
[16:38] <abkarch> k
[16:38] <terafl0ps> English is the 36th language down in the "installed languages" window.
[16:38] <abhijitrucks> i did sudo apt-get install gnome-shell but it says "package gnome-shell has no insallation candidate"
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> !info gnome-shell
[16:38] <enotz> I am trying to use LWP::Simple with perl under 12.04 and if and when I try and get an https address it fails, without error.  I have installed LWP::Simple and http://pkgs.org/ubuntu-12.04/ubuntu-universe-i386/libcrypt-ssleay-perl_0.57-2ubuntu1_i386.deb - what am I missing here
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> abhijitrucks: do you have universe repo enabled?
[16:39] <stiltzkin> Still looking for some advice on this system freeze if anyone can tell me anything about it. Screenshot here: http://i.imgur.com/Wstm3.jpg
[16:39] <abhijitrucks> how do i check?
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> abhijitrucks: use software centre
[16:39] <robertkeizer> Greetings.. Anyone else notice that the canoncial DNS servers just set ca.archive.ubuntu.com to go to the UK?
[16:40] <euphoria_> hello
[16:40] <jellybellie> terafl0ps: http://tinypic.com/r/2morp1f/6
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> hi euphoria_
[16:40] <euphoria_> hi
[16:40] <abhijitrucks> ya
[16:40] <abhijitrucks> universe respiratory is enabled
[16:41] <c0deMaster> what are speedy alternatives to OpenVPN ?
[16:41] <jellybellie> english is definitely installed, I translated it with google
[16:42] <terafl0ps> jellybellie, What happens if you choose "English" and press that top button?
[16:42] <terafl0ps> which should be "apply system wide"
[16:42] <jellybellie> nothing
[16:42] <stiltzkin> experience with udevd, anyone, anyone? bueller?
[16:42] <abhijitrucks> ???
[16:43] <jellybellie> terafl0ps: I got a pop up when I logged in sayin I chose a different language.  I make sure that the login language was english on the login screen
[16:44] <jellybellie> this is insane
[16:44] <jellybellie> Im gonna have to reinstall over this...
[16:44] <abhijitrucks> ok. i added a gnome ppa
[16:44] <jellybellie> my gawd ubuntu
[16:45] <abhijitrucks> someone plz help
[16:45] <abhijitrucks> how to install gnome 3
[16:45] <abhijitrucks> in ubuntu 12.04
[16:45] <tensorpudding> abhijitrucks, first, remove whatever ppa you added
[16:46] <abhijitrucks> ok
[16:46] <tensorpudding> abhijitrucks, then you're done, because 12.04 comes with gnome 3
[16:46] <terafl0ps> jellybellie, I'm not sure what's going on then.  Have you tried logging out of gnome and logging back in after you applied the change?
[16:46] <jellybellie> ubuntu just switched me to chinese, that is what happened
[16:46] <jellybellie> no idea why
[16:46] <abhijitrucks> ok i removed it
[16:46] <tensorpudding> abhijitrucks, if you don't believe me, open System Monitor and look at the System tab, and see where it'll say GNOME 3.4.1
[16:47] <jellybellie> terafl0ps: gonna try logging out.
[16:47] <compdoc> I think ppl would be happier if 12.03 did run gnome 3, but it doesnt. But thats OK, I getting used to Unity
[16:48] <abhijitrucks> but i cant login to a gnome session
[16:48] <TheShruv> jellybellie: goto system>administration>language (or something like that)
[16:48] <hypn0> i would be happier if something like openbox was installed too
[16:48] <robin0800> compdoc: 12.04 does run gnome 3
[16:48] <tensorpudding> abhijitrucks, unity is built on top of gnome 3, if you want gnome-shell, just install it by name from the software center, you'll get a GNOME session available
[16:48] <LjL> !gnome3 | abhijitrucks
[16:49] <compdoc> robin0800, not the gnome 3 that abhijitrucks means
[16:49] <abhijitrucks> i have ubuntu 12.04
[16:49] <tensorpudding> yes, do what it says, install gnome-shell and gnome-tweak-tool
[16:49] <LjL> compdoc: yes, what you and abhijitrucks mean is "GNOME-Shell", not "GNOME 3"
[16:49] <abhijitrucks> and i want to use gnome instead of unity
[16:49] <LjL> abhijitrucks: follow the instructions in the factoid i just gave.
[16:50] <n1ckn4me09876543> Can someone help me install driver for Soundblaster X-Fi Fatal1ty ?  I've google'd everywhere and cannot find a solution
[16:50] <terafl0ps> Overall, I personally think Unity is awful on desktops and laptops.  I think something with a Unity-like interface makes much more sense on tablets and smartphones.
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> compdoc: 12.04 uses Gnome3...
[16:50] <robin0800> abhijitrucks: you may need gnome-panel then
[16:50] <MrGizmo757> Unity is awsome  just takes getting used to
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> n1ckn4me09876543: those can be a pita, not worth the hastle
[16:51] <abhijitrucks> unity is kinda messed up in ubuntu 12.04
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> n1ckn4me09876543: can you give the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh
[16:51] <MrGizmo757> its rough around the edges but you can tweak it and make it good
[16:51] <MrGizmo757> such as making the launcher dodge windows like it did in 11.10 amound many other things
[16:51] <MrGizmo757> with a little TLC you can make unity quite good
[16:52] <abhijitrucks> how do i change launcher to reveal when i move my mouse to bottom left corner?
[16:52] <n1ckn4me09876543> ActionParsnip: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=19897beae9289bea9247c92a6b29e6e89a4fbd57
[16:52] <MrGizmo757> not sure about hot corners. i know My unity and even ubuntu tweak have some funtions like that.
[16:52] <MrGizmo757> there is a way i just don tknow it.
[16:52] <abhijitrucks> +they dont work in 12.04
[16:53] <abhijitrucks> :(
[16:53] <MrGizmo757> launcher dodgin open windows i have figured out. changin the default lens i have figured out.
[16:53] <abhijitrucks> i mean i can only change hotsopts to left edge and top left corner
[16:54] <terafl0ps> I admit I haven't tried Unity since 11.04, but I had lots of problems with it on dual displays, and I really couldn't stand the enormous icons.  Those big icons would make perfect sense on a small screen where they would scale down to the size of your fingertip though.
[16:54] <MrGizmo757> i agree. out of the box as is Unity is kind of a mess.  but if you spend some time with it you can make it very good.
[16:54] <MrGizmo757> hmm not sure about lower hot corners.   its not somthing i ever had a need for. i always just use keyboard shortcuts
[16:54] <n1ckn4me09876543> win8 copied ubuntu's unity :>
[16:54] <abhijitrucks> NO
[16:55] <n1ckn4me09876543> yep, the left side bar thingie,  the square looking thing to see programs,  that's the "new" start in win8
[16:55] <newhoa> Quick question: Nautilus is using media-eject-symbolic as the unmount icon in the sidebar now. Is there a way to define the color of this icon? Mine will only show black.
[16:55] <abhijitrucks> i got used to using bottom left corner for launcher in 11.10 so its kinda frarusting in 12.04
[16:55] <MrGizmo757> no they didnt. steve balmmer ate some bad shrimp. puked it all out all over a pile of turds and then he copied that. thats windows 8    LOL!!!!
[16:55] <solderMob> terafl0ps: failed.
[16:55] <solderMob> terafl0ps: how do i get to the fonts?
[16:55] <solderMob> maybe the fonts are off
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> n1ckn4me09876543: is the right output device selected in sound options and are all levels cranked in alsamixer
[16:56] <solderMob> its says english, but fonts are not english
[16:56] <MrGizmo757> i like windows 7 am am not baching windows here but  windows 8  i can only ask what are hey smoking
[16:56] <shadow_wraith> Hi, does anyone here know much about configuring a wacom pad in ubuntu?
[16:56] <kelvinella> what happen to windows 8?
[16:56] <abhijitrucks> and i cant even set expo hot corners in CCSM. the settings dissappear after a restart
[16:56] <terafl0ps> solderMob, Was your nick jellybellie before?
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> kelvinella: its offtopic here
[16:57] <petsounds> windows 8 is off-topic
[16:57] <kelvinella> last month i try to install windows 8 in virtualbox it fails
[16:57] <jellybellie> terafl0ps: sorry
[16:57] <jellybellie> forgot
[16:57] <abhijitrucks> forget about windows 8
[16:57] <MrGizmo757> anyways i need help with WiFi in ubuntu. i cant get the LED ont eh front of my laptop to work.  anybody know how to fix that?
[16:58] <n1ckn4me09876543> MrGizmo757: when you open programs in win8, it snaps it to the left screen,  sounds familiar? :> and a bunch of other stuff like   windows store to d/l apps like with ubuntu software centre, lol!
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> MrGizmo757: does it connect despite the LED?
[16:58] <MrGizmo757> yes wifi works fine. its just the LED that wont work.
[16:58] <abhijitrucks> windows 8 is metro and ubuntu is not metro
[16:58] <abhijitrucks> lol
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> MrGizmo757: why is the LED needed?
[16:58] <MrGizmo757> its not its just annoying me
[16:58] <abhijitrucks> haha
[16:59] <ActionParsnip> MrGizmo757: could report a bug, its massively trivial. Personally I'd be glad it didn't light
[16:59] <Kiril> someone can you tell me how to remove from apache to require htcaccess and stop give me a forbidden
[16:59] <ActionParsnip> Kiril: try asking in the apache channel too
[16:59] <terafl0ps> Ah.  I don't think it's a font issue.  I really think something is wrong with your language settings somewhere, but the language support program is failing to set them correctly now.
[16:59] <MrGizmo757> yeah but its sopose to and it dosent.  to me thats annoying.  :-)
[16:59] <totesmuhgoats> ooooh we are in #ubuntu
[16:59] <abhijitrucks> kiril: use sudo
[16:59] <totesmuhgoats> lol i am reading the buffer thinking i'm in ##windows
[17:00] <totesmuhgoats> wondering what all you guys are on about
[17:00] <Kiril> i use root
[17:00] <robin0800> MrGizmo757: do a google search for your wifi light laptop and linux
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> MrGizmo757: instead of 'laptop' use the make and model of the system
[17:00] <Chewyrobbo> Kiril, why don't you delete your htaccess temporarily?
[17:00] <jellybellie> 36 down?
[17:00] <Kiril> i haven't
[17:01] <terafl0ps> Jellybellie: Yes, in the installed languages screen.
[17:01] <MrGizmo757> i alredy tried all that. thats why i came here.  i found a few fixes  for other laptops. but not for mine.  the fixes i did fine for dell and system 76 didnt work  on my ASUS
[17:01] <Chewyrobbo> do that, or find what line(s) are bad in your htaccess
[17:01] <stiltzkin> Anyone have any insight on this system freeze I'm getting? I kind of suspect bad hardware but I'm not sure. Getting lots of errors about nonexistent USB MTP devices: http://i.imgur.com/Wstm3.jpg
[17:02] <viktor_l> o/ i am having troube with my interfaces, i have configured my eth1 in the interfaces file but it will not be active by default when i start ubuntu
[17:02] <ActionParsnip> stiltzkin: what is plugged in to the usb ports?
[17:02] <ActionParsnip> viktor_l: did you add the line:   auto eth1
[17:02] <stiltzkin> ActionParsnip, USB keyboard, plain USB hard drive
[17:02] <ActionParsnip> stiltzkin: unmount and eject the drive, see if the messages still occur
[17:03] <MrGizmo757> i also found a fix for this problem but it wouldnt work on my wifi card.  the solution was to install some backports. but the driver for my wifi card didnt work before 11.10 so installing backports just make it stop worging completley.
[17:03] <stiltzkin> ActionParsnip, alright...I have a feeling they will
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> stiltzkin: then you will know what is causing the issue :)
[17:03] <jellybellie> its installing uz when I install english
[17:03] <MrGizmo757> oh well.  everything works fine. i just dont have a working LED.   not a big deal but if there was a fix i figured i would apply it.
[17:03] <jellybellie> and en-gb
[17:04] <MrGizmo757> no biggue though. its only a little bitty light.
[17:04] <Chewyrobbo> Hey status lights have saved my butt before though.
[17:04] <amflir> is there a package for Debian that changes the wallpaper randomly from a couple of selected pictures randomly every x minutes?!
[17:04] <jellybellie> I hate china now
[17:04] <jellybellie> (:
[17:04] <amflir> is there a package that changes the wallpaper randomly from a couple of selected pictures randomly every x minutes?!
[17:04] <viktor_l> so really, the auto part is to start the interface
[17:04] <jellybellie> that does nothing
[17:05] <jellybellie> AH!
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> amflir: isn't that already installed?
[17:05] <Dougie187> I'm having trouble with 12.04 on a thinkpad T61. Pluseaudio will only output one stream at a time
[17:05] <theadmin> amflir: Try nitrogen, if you mean desktop-independent
[17:05] <terafl0ps> jellybellie: Success?
[17:05] <jellybellie> no
[17:05] <jellybellie> chinese
[17:05] <n1ckn4me09876543> ActionParsnip: yea I'm in alsa mixer options,  is there anyway I could have a more pleasing graphical settings for audio?
[17:05] <stiltzkin> ActionParsnip, it's not throwing errors yet...might have to wait a few minutes to be sure though, it happens at random
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> amflir: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[17:05] <terafl0ps> Darn.
[17:05] <KomiaPoika> hi
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> n1ckn4me09876543: there's gnome-alsamixer  its exactly the same just pretty, kinda pointless really
[17:06] <KomiaPoika> trying to install enemy territory 2.60 full install, I get: .setup2089: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[17:06] <KomiaPoika> what lib should I install?
[17:06] <amflir> ActionParsnip: Release:	6.0.5      Codename:	squeeze
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> amflir: debian isn't supported here
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> amflir: this is ubuntu support only
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> amflir: join #debian
[17:07] <amflir> ActionParsnip: the packages are the same
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> amflir: its not ubuntu
[17:07] <jellybellie> so there is nothing else that might over right my language?
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> amflir: even the 'ubuntu based' distros are not supported here
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> amflir: and packages from debian are not to be install in ubutnu they will cause issues
[17:08] <stiltzkin> ActionParsnip, looks alright for now, I'll be back if the problem persists. Thanks for the suggestion :)
[17:08] <jellybellie> how do i get to font?
[17:08] <TheFreeMSP> hey everyone
[17:08] <jellybellie> anyone know where fonts are in gnomeshell?
[17:09] <TheFreeMSP> Limited Time Only! Get FREE Microsoft Points. Check it out here: http://thefreemsp.weebly.com
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> !fonts | jellybellie
[17:10] <jellybellie> ActionParsnip: I know how to install ubuntu lulz
[17:10] <jellybellie> this is a 12.04 canonical fail
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> jellybellie: its how to install fonts, not ubuntu
[17:11] <alan83> hi everyone i'm totally new to linux and ubuntu. may i ask i saw ppl on the youtube having those top menu where starts Applications etc. but mine comes with a sidebar. how can i change to tat? tks.
[17:11] <jellybellie> the default language of my system is chinese, even chrome is trying to translate to chinese for me.  ActionParsnip looking
[17:11] <terafl0ps> jelliebellie: What shows up when you run "dpkg -l | grep language-pack" ?
[17:11] <jellybellie> where is the gui font editor in ubuntu 12.04?
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> alan83: you can install xfce, or use this how to: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/03/gnome-classic-in-ubuntu-12-04-its-like-nothing-ever-changed/
[17:11] <theadmin> alan83: sudo apt-get install gnome-fallback # After that log out, click the gear icon, choose "GNOME Fallback".
[17:12] <jellybellie> ah
[17:12] <alan83> ok tks ActionParsnip and theadmin.
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> !info fontforge | jellybellie
[17:13] <rwq> here is the best one today
[17:13] <alan83> oh btw, how do i learn about the commands for the terminal? anyone?
[17:13] <rwq> "daddy can i listen to jazz?"
[17:13] <LjL> !cli > alan83
[17:13] <rwq> "SURE!  what kind of jazz?"
[17:13] <rwq> "jazztin beiber"
[17:13] <LjL> !ot | rwq
[17:13] <jellybellie> that link is for 10.04
[17:13] <rwq> allright sorry
[17:13] <alan83> cheers.
[17:14] <jellybellie> ubottu: no fontforge in terminal
[17:15] <jellybellie> ubottu: that is helpful
[17:15] <L3top> jellybellie: sudo apt-get install fontforge
[17:15] <jellybellie> the font editor in 12.04? its not in appearances
[17:15] <LjL> jellybellie: i don't think you meant "font editor" anyway. a font editor is something to let you create fonts.
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> jellybellie: is it in the Alt+F2 menu?
[17:16] <amflir> how to check what packages depended on package FOO are installed?
[17:17] <jellybellie> I dont know
[17:17] <jellybellie> I cannot read anything
[17:17] <jellybellie> the language thing says english, and above it, something in chinese
[17:17] <terafl0ps> Still, I'm pretty sure there is no font that changes your language to Chinese.  I think any font with a full set of unicode characters would have Chinese characters.
[17:17] <jellybellie> all the menus are in chinese
[17:17] <Dougie187> So, basically if I have two applications running in 12.04 the first one to run gets to output, and the other one doesn't.
[17:18] <fricker> Hello.
[17:18] <jellybellie> terafl0ps: Im just trying anything.  I spent days installing this system and now im looking at reinstalling cause I logged in.
[17:18] <jellybellie> fail canonical
[17:18] <jellybellie> huge fail
[17:19] <fricker> Hmm. Sounds like you have it worse than I do.
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> jellybellie: change the language..
[17:19] <tensorpudding> changing the language could be hard though, if everything is in chinese and you don't speak the language
[17:19] <jellybellie> ActionParsnip: been doing that
[17:19] <fricker> I just put Ubuntu 11.04 on a new laptop and for some reason, it freezes during start up.
[17:20] <jellybellie> it doesnt seem to care
[17:20] <terafl0ps> jellybellie:  Can you pastebin your /etc/default/locale ?
[17:20] <fricker> But, if I have my wired ethernet connected, it starts up fine.
[17:21] <jellybellie> terafl0ps: LANG="zh_CN.UTF-8"
[17:21] <jellybellie> LANGUAGE="zh_CN:en"
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> jellybellie: or you could rename all the gnome config folders as a last ditch
[17:21] <terafl0ps> jellybellie:  Change it to this:
[17:21] <terafl0ps> LANG="en_US"
[17:21] <terafl0ps> LANGUAGE="en_US:en"
[17:21] <jellybellie> http://pastebin.com/xDULW29W
[17:21] <jellybellie> ^
[17:21] <Etale> I'm going to get a 500GB, 8GB RAM, 64-bit laptop tomorrow. I want an ubuntu distro that would be ideal for that sort of computer, but also doesn't have too much garbage pre-installed. Ultimately I want to use compiz. What would you suggest?
[17:22] <jellybellie> (gawd Im not chinese)
[17:22] <jellybellie> terafl0ps: which? just the first one?
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> Etale: you can run any of the ubuntus you want
[17:22] <danielsaan> Etale: linux mint
[17:22] <L3top> !poll | again Etale..
[17:22] <tensorpudding> linux mint isn't ubuntu
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> Etale: install default ubuntu and it will be fine
[17:23] <Daekdroom> Etale, Default Ubuntu
[17:23] <jellybellie> terafl0ps: oh, nvm,
[17:23] <danielsaan> tensorpudding: yes it is
[17:23] <terafl0ps> jellybellie:  Actually, my entire /etc/default/locale only contains one line.
[17:23] <tensorpudding> !mint
[17:23] <Tw|sT> Etale: Ubuntu 12.04-LTS x64
[17:23] <terafl0ps> It is LANG="en_US.UTF-8"
[17:23] <xangua> danielsaan: mint is not supported here, drop it
[17:23] <terafl0ps> So, I would try that.
[17:23] <jellybellie> terafl0ps: what is that line?
[17:23] <LjL> danielsaan: no it isn't. please don't recommend people to use other distributions here when they ask about an "Ubuntu distro"
[17:23] <L3top> same here terafl0ps
[17:23] <jellybellie> ubuntu 12.04?
[17:23] <Etale> Not even xubuntu?
[17:23] <danielsaan> xangua: dude, it's apt-get etc
[17:23] <danielsaan> that's debian based
[17:23] <danielsaan> ergo ubuntu
[17:23] <jellybellie> what line?! (:
[17:23] <terafl0ps> LANG="en_US.UTF-8"
[17:23] <LjL> danielsaan: i don't even know how you think what you just said makes any sense, but at any rate, just don't.
[17:23] <Etale> Or minimal ubuntu? lubuntu?
[17:24] <danielsaan> why?
[17:24] <tensorpudding> Etale, get xubuntu if xfce4 is what you want, get kubuntu is kde 4.6 is what you want, get regular ubuntu if you want unity
[17:24] <xangua> Etale: anything you want
[17:24] <xangua> !ot | danielsaan
[17:24] <terafl0ps> You may need to log out of gnome again to get it to pick it up.
[17:24] <flowerpot> danielbw, because Ubuntu is significantly different from Debian, even though Debian is the upstream provider for Ubuntu.  Moreover, if Mint is an offshoot of Debian, then it's even farther removed from Ubuntu than Debian is.
[17:24] <Tw|sT> with that level of hardware, I'd go straight to Ubuntu, rather than Xubuntu.  you can always add in the metapackage for Xubntu later, but starting from the root build is always best, I've found
[17:24] <LjL> danielsaan: because this is an Ubuntu channel, not a "recommend me the best OS to use" channel. the fellow who asked wasn't even asking *that* in the first place, they were asking about *Ubuntu*, and regardless of what you think, not everything that uses apt-get is "Ubuntu"
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> Etale: Ubuntu, yuo will have enough grunt so I wouldn't worry about resources
[17:25] <flowerpot> Just because distro A is the upstream provider for distro B does not mean that distro B is compatible with distro A.
[17:25] <Tw|sT> Kubuntu would be a great alternative, on such high end hardware
[17:25] <L3top> jellybellie: echo "LANG=\"en_US.UTF-8\"" > /etc/default/locale
[17:26] <Tw|sT> But, I still would start with Ubuntu, and add in metapackages as desired
[17:26] <Etale> Okay!
[17:27] <Tw|sT> This way, I could use any desktop I prefer, and yet still have a system that otherwise works as the default distro was intended, with no diversion in any libs, settings or functions.  I always get a more stable box that way, I've found.
[17:27] <Tw|sT> enjoy!  :)
[17:27] <Etale> Yupsies!
[17:30] <primenumber>  Before I Go to Sleep
[17:30] <primenumber> @search  Before I Go to Sleep
[17:30] <LjL> primenumber: ?
[17:30] <primenumber> oops sorry!
[17:31] <jellybellie> NOPE
[17:31] <jellybellie> chinese, yay!
[17:32] <primenumber> I was going to ask if anyone else has a recurring system error on 12.04 after the upgrade. 2 systems - laptop and desktop both do this...
[17:32] <primenumber> happens about 2 minutes in from boot
[17:33] <terafl0ps> jelliebellie: Did you log out of gnome and log back in?
[17:33] <jellybellie> rebooted terafl0ps
[17:33] <jellybellie> brb, trying one more time
[17:33]  * Tw|sT recently bought an Acer Iconia Tab W500 tablet, preloaded with Windows 7. I also picked up a 32GB SDXC card for it and initially installed Ubuntu 12.04 onto the SDXC card, but came into a bad need to more disc space and sacrificed the SDXC card to Windows. I now boot to Ubuntu from USB flash drives.. and for some reason, unaltered, it works better on the tablet than it did when it was installed on SDXC.
[17:34] <jelliebellie> YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[17:34] <jelliebellie> NO CHINESE!
[17:34] <xangua> !caps | jelliebellie
[17:35] <jelliebellie> ubottu: if you werent a bot, you would understand.
[17:35] <terafl0ps> Jelliebellie, what did you do?
[17:35] <jelliebellie> terafl0ps: guys, thnx
[17:35] <sirriffsalot> jelliebellie: haha, good reply!
[17:35] <jelliebellie> thx for dealing with my anger as well
[17:35] <jelliebellie> I hate chinese, but not as much anymore.
[17:35] <Tw|sT> My other fave Ubuntu system I run is a Zotac ZboxHD ID41-plus, loaded with Ubuntu 12.04.  Low footprint, fast as lightning!
[17:36] <jelliebellie> (:=~~~ datalove to you all ~~~=:) o/
[17:36] <terafl0ps> jelliebellie: What did you do that was different after that first reboot?
[17:37] <Tw|sT> bailed
[17:38] <Tw|sT> heh
[17:38] <Tw|sT> well... at least jelliebellie got it workin'
[17:39] <L3top> Tw|sT: you have had success with the nvidia-current driver? Are you using audio over hdmi?
[17:39] <Tw|sT> yup
[17:40] <L3top> Did you have to configure anything manually for audio?
[17:40] <Tw|sT> it worked the other night from my tablet to the TV
[17:40] <Tw|sT> I just selected that output
[17:40] <Tw|sT> at least if I recall correctly
[17:40] <L3top> I am referring to the id41
[17:40] <Tw|sT> oh
[17:41] <Tw|sT> umm... yeah
[17:41] <Tw|sT> though I only tested it recently with the lowerend set upstairs... a 720P plasma
[17:41] <L3top> Sorry... meaning?
[17:41] <L3top> No manual config?
[17:42] <L3top> Or no audio over hdmi?
[17:42] <Tw|sT> I don't recall it I've set it up using that mode successfully on my 1080p Samsung
[17:42] <Tw|sT> I think it depended on the set
[17:42] <Tw|sT> I'll have to test that
[17:42] <Tw|sT> I'm using a dedicated monitor with it
[17:42] <Tw|sT> but
[17:43] <L3top> digital audio out is digital audio out... it should either pipe a signal or not. I was just curious because I am having some grief autoconfiguring those guys.
[17:43] <Tw|sT> I also have a spare HDMI cable that I occasionally use to hook one or the other of my 2 portables to 2nd, larger displays
[17:43] <Tw|sT> well... theres more than that, when dealing with it as an output to pulseaudio
[17:44] <master0010> im trying to change the JAVA_HOME variable to java7oracle but its always on java6 :S
[17:44] <master0010> can some one help me?
[17:44] <L3top> not on the receiving end... anyway... thanks.
[17:45] <theadmin> master0010: sudo update-alternatives --set java /path/to/java7/
[17:45] <theadmin> master0010: Or something along the lines. Not sure if it's "java" or "jre" or even "jvm", though
[17:46] <master0010> update-alternatives: error: alternative /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-oracle/ for java not registered, not setting.
[17:46] <Tw|sT> it's sorta like dealing with it in Windows.   The TV becomes an audio output listed as connected to the digital interface, and then have to work under the same digital output specifications.  If I remember correctly, the last time i had my Zbox hooked to my digital display (Samsung), I had to use a separate optical cable for digital audio because pulse audio at the time, didn't work with it correctly.  But I've upgraded that system sinc
[17:46] <ZaNeIuM> how do i delete grub from hard drive, formatting the drive doesnt get rid of it?
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> master0010: there is a ppa for oracle java 7
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> ZaNeIuM: when you install another OS the MBR will be overwritten
[17:47] <master0010> java -version gives me java 7
[17:47] <master0010> but the variables are still java 6
[17:47] <Tw|sT> That's why I'm not sure, honestly.  Because I haven't rechecked since I reloaded from 10.04 to 12.04 on the Zbox
[17:47] <ZaNeIuM> well i did install other os but it kept adding to the grub menu thats why now im asking
[17:48] <Tw|sT> My wife's using the screen right now, watching a film, or I'd just go ahead and hook it up and check, because you've gotten me curious here now...   :)
[17:48] <viktor_l> for the auto eth1 one guy, yes that was it, tyvm
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> ZaNeIuM: what is the other OS?
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> vinraec: np :)
[17:48] <ZaNeIuM> xbmc ubuntu eden
[17:49] <ZaNeIuM> it was ok then i started seeing the grub menu apon boot
[17:49] <Tw|sT> ZaNeIuM:  Do you have  copy of the "gparted" live iso?
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> ZaNeIuM: that will probably use grub as well, you can use a chroot to set it up. the distro isn't supported here
[17:49] <ZaNeIuM> i got gparted on a live cd
[17:49] <ZaNeIuM> i del the partios with it
[17:49] <Tw|sT> that'll do it.  just kill the partition table itself
[17:49] <jademonkey> Could anyone suggest some decent drafting software for a novice? I want to sketch out a design for a patio, not really looking to get hardcore.
[17:50] <salvatore> Hello everybody. I have a problem with my Ubuntu 12.04 installation. I got a new Sony Vaio laptop with windows 7 64 bit preinstalled. I wanna keep7 it and install ubuntu also. But when i restart my pc GRUB menu won't appear and start windows
[17:50] <Tw|sT> that'll wipe the MBR
[17:50] <ZaNeIuM> and rebooted the partioionless drive and still got a grub prompt
[17:50] <master0010> ActionParship  iǘe isntalled java 7
[17:50] <master0010> but the varialbes are still java 6
[17:50] <master0010> and i cant change them
[17:51] <salvatore> may be that i am trying to install an ubuntu 32 bit version?
[17:51] <Tw|sT> ZaNeIuM Are you certain tht the drive you're targetting is the one triggering grub?  Might it also gotten installed on another drive as well? (just troubleshooting steps of elimination)
[17:52] <master0010> when i type "export JAVA_HOME=.......java-7-oracle" the variable changes but when i logout and log in again the variable is back to java6
[17:52] <Tw|sT> Also, have you checked the "boot" flag in gparted?
[17:52] <ZaNeIuM> its a small itx system with one 1 drive
[17:52] <dougstew2> I have 12.04 and i want to see the cpu speed how do i do it??
[17:52] <ZaNeIuM> ull check it now
[17:52] <Tw|sT> That'll allow you to kill an MBR on a drive
[17:52] <salvatore> why on my new VAIO won't appear GRUB menu???
[17:53] <salvatore> please help!!!!
[17:54] <Tw|sT> salvatore:  what was your grub installation target drive? /dev/sda1 ? or  /dev/sda ? or some other arrangement?
[17:54] <salvatore> mmm don't remember...
[17:55] <salvatore> but is it possible because i installed a 32 bit version?
[17:55] <salvatore> my windows is 64 bit
[17:55] <Tw|sT> that wouldnt matter so much
[17:55] <Tw|sT> no
[17:55] <wifioregon> hi I need to rename LOTS of files.  "Track 1.wav" to "a 1.wav"  "Track 2.wav" to "a 2.wav" and so on. Can someone please help? Even if you just guide me in the right direction. Do I need to do some kind of loop?
[17:55] <Tw|sT> that's perfectly ok
[17:57] <Tw|sT> generally, whenever you are setting up a dual boot system, you'll need to install grub to "/dev/sda", which is the MBR of the first detected drive of a modern laptop.  The actual target labels may differ depending on your hardware arrangement, but generally my example applies in most cases.
[17:58] <Tw|sT> I tend to build USB stick installations that act as a full system.  I use these as portable environments, for laptops, Workstations, and my tablet.
[18:00] <tdn> I use Ubuntu LTS and want to install the new 12.04, however, the installer does not seem to be able to boot on non pae CPUs. What to do? I need the alternate installer to set up LUKS during install.
[18:00] <Tw|sT> I also manage several Linux servers at my work (3 of which are Ubuntu based), and several Ubuntu systems on my home network, where most of those are virtualized on VMWare ESXi host servers, inhouse.
[18:00] <ceti331__> @twist, can you easily use a large portion of the usb stick as the drive
[18:00] <Tw|sT> right
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> salvatore: how did you install ubuntu. Via wubi, or by resizing the ntfs and installing that way?
[18:00] <ceti331__> i seem to remember the usb stick installers limiting me when i did it
[18:01] <ceti331__> but that was a while ago
[18:01] <airlynx> This is a common problem I have, when compiling a downloaded program I sometimes get an error that some dependency is not installed, when in fact it is, is there a good workaround for this type of issue?  Particular case is currently rbpro-drum2midi when running ./configure it checks for alsa >= 1.0.22 when I have 1.0.24 installed but it just stops and says "No package 'alsa' found"
[18:01] <ActionParsnip> wifioregon: ask in #bash too
[18:01] <FfoO> excuse me guys. Good afternoon. Could any one tell me which format is best for an Arch-Linux OS install, please? Ext2 or Ext4.
[18:01] <salvatore> i downloaded the iso from ubuntu website
[18:01] <salvatore> burned it
[18:01] <salvatore> used it
[18:01] <salvatore> restarting pc
[18:02] <Tw|sT> I have a pair of live installer USBs, as well as full systems, rather than persisten mode discs.  That way, I'm not as limited with it.
[18:02] <ivan___> hi.. I'm having problems with dhcp after update to 12.04
[18:02] <RupertPupkin> salvatore, Try #archlinux
[18:03] <ivan___> I edited /etc/resol.conf to 8.8.8.8 but it still doesn't want to connect to any network
[18:03] <RupertPupkin> sorry , ignore that.  wrong person
[18:03] <Sidewinder> !who
[18:03] <RupertPupkin> FfoO, Try #archlinux
[18:03] <ivan___> I also edited /etc/dhcp/dhcplient.conf
[18:03] <FfoO> RupertPupkin: I'm on it, thank you
[18:04] <ivan___> I uncommented prepend domain-name-servers and added opendns IP addressess
[18:04] <ivan___> this fixed problem few days ago
[18:04] <ivan___> but now, I have same problem
[18:04] <ivan___> and this solution doesn't work
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> wifioregon: may help http://www.computing.net/answers/unix/replace-word/6230.html
[18:05] <ActionParsnip> ivan___: can you ping your default gateway
[18:06] <Aranel> After 12.04 upgrade now plasma-desktop doesn't start with "org.kde.kded not provided by any .service files" :/ Can you help me?
[18:07] <ivan___> anyone any idea?
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> ivan___: I asked you a question.....
[18:07] <ivan___> ActionParsnip: sorry I missed it
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> Aranel: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=107086
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> Aranel: seems you need to delete /var/tmp/kdecache-$USER
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> Aranel: have you seen that guide?
[18:08] <salvatore> what is archlinux?
[18:08] <master0010> i need help :S i can't change my JAVA_HOME variable. i've installed java 7 oracle and when i type java -version it shows the java 7 version but JAVA_HOME is still java 6 oracle
[18:08] <Aranel> ActionParsnip: did and removed that folder too, after issuing plasma-desktop on terminal it starts kbuildsycoca, then crashes again.
[18:08] <ivan___> ActionParsnip: what should I ping ?
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> ivan___: your default gateway, the router's internal IP.....
[18:09] <Tw|sT> Sunday May 20 2012 01:09:34 PM -0600 GMT
[18:10] <master0010> can some one help me? :(
[18:10] <terafl0ps> master0010, do you want to use Java 7 for only one particular user or all users?
[18:10] <master0010> all
[18:10] <ivan___> ActionParsnip: no I can't
[18:11] <ficarra> Why does M$ have to own skype?
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> ivan___: does the interface get an IP via dhcp?
[18:11] <ikonia> how is that anything to do with ubuntu ficarra ?
[18:11] <ficarra> 2.2 Beta? Are you kidding me
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> ficarra: they paid for it...
[18:12] <ikonia> ficarra: you understand you're in an ubuntu support channel yes ?
[18:12] <terafl0ps> master0010, See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables
[18:12] <ficarra> THey refuse to develope for linux.
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> ficarra: they haven't said taht
[18:12] <ikonia> ficarra: you understand you're in an ubuntu support channel yes ?
[18:12] <ficarra> Give me time, I'm getting to the point, ranting first.
[18:12] <terafl0ps> Look at the section on system-wide environment variables.
[18:12] <ikonia> ficarra: stop ranting
[18:12] <ficarra> No need to spam me ikonia
[18:12] <ikonia> ficarra: if you need support ask for it - if not, please don't speak
[18:12] <FfoO> ficarra: Beta since I was born.
[18:12] <ficarra> So, skype closes instantly on startup
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> ficarra: tried renaming ~/.Skype ?
[18:13] <master0010> terafl0ps i tried that
[18:13] <ficarra> Well, not on startup. On login. And ActionParsnip, how will renaming it help?
[18:13] <terafl0ps> Was JAVA_HOME defined in any of those places?
[18:13] <master0010> but bashrc doesn't do me anything
[18:14] <master0010> in all
[18:14] <master0010> the only time that it changes
[18:14] <master0010> is
[18:14] <master0010> when i do export
[18:15] <_Marcus> Hi
[18:15] <master0010> but when i logout and log in its back to java6
[18:15] <terafl0ps> Is it defined in your users .profile ?
[18:16] <vimane> what will replace unity-2d for old computer?
[18:16] <master0010> no but profile is pointing to bashrc
[18:16] <master0010> i think :S
[18:17] <master0010> its what looks like on the file
[18:17] <terafl0ps> master0010, It could be defined in there.
[18:17] <ficarra> vimane: For an older computer, I'd suggest LXDE
[18:18] <ficarra> Or XFCE
[18:18] <vimane> hahaha ok
[18:18] <ficarra> Actually, XFCE should work fine
[18:19] <ficarra> vimane:  sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[18:19] <vimane> thank
[18:19] <FfoO> Could any one tell me which format is best for a Ubuntu OS install, please? Ext2 or Ext4.
[18:19] <terafl0ps> master00101: grep JAVA_HOME .*
[18:19] <ZaNeIuM> Tw|sT: in gparted flags is grayed out
[18:19] <ikonia> FfoO: ext4 is the current standard
[18:19] <master0010> terafl0ps, nothing..
[18:20] <terafl0ps> master0010: So it's not set in your user's directory.
[18:21] <master0010> :S7
[18:21] <conny__> Could someone help me with a problem in Regnum Online? The outfits of the chars are "flickering" and I don't know how to turn it off
[18:21] <master0010> but when i do echo $JAVA_HOME
[18:21] <master0010> it shows it
[18:22] <FfoO> Thank you, ikonia
[18:22] <master0010> terafl0ps, how do i do it?
[18:22] <terafl0ps> master0010: sudo find /etc/* -exec grep -l JAVA_HOME {} \;
[18:22] <vimane> ficarra: i'm fine with other DE, but many people i know want to use unity.
[18:23] <nano_> http://askubuntu.com/questions/139669/cannot-install-windows
[18:23] <robstark> So whats the difference between kubuntu and ubuntu?
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> ficarra: if you rename it, skype will majke default settings and may help. bad settnigs can make apps crash
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> vimane: could use unity2d session
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> robstark: kde desktop instead of gnome, default apps are different
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> robstark: rest is the same
[18:24] <nano_> http://askubuntu.com/questions/139669/cannot-install-windows
[18:24] <master0010> terafl0ps, what im i suposed to find with this? it shows me some lines..
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> master0010: there is a ppa for java7, makes life easier
[18:25] <terafl0ps> master0010:  That should list any file in /etc containing the text "JAVA_HOME"
[18:25] <vimane> but unity-2d will be droped in 12.10, isn't it?
[18:25] <robstark> So KDE desktop means?  BRAND new user here, just switched from windows
[18:25] <master0010> terafl0ps, i used this link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1977358&highlight=qiii+install+java
[18:25] <robstark> Running 12.04 ubuntu, but kubuntu recommended by a friend
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> vimane: not that i've noticed. I'll check tonight (I have 12.10 installed)
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> robstark: try it, see what you think
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> robstark: could run a live CD / USB
[18:26] <vimane> ActionParsnip: thank you
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> vimane: i'm at work now but am curious now
[18:26] <terafl0ps> master0010:  If it's more than a couple lines that came back, you'll have to pastebin them.
[18:26] <aemid> GIALLO
[18:26] <robstark> The core is the same then, just different desktop... so like... it would be the same as running the same dos, but a different gui?
[18:27] <robstark> Or not really?
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> robstark: exactly
[18:27] <robstark> Cool, ok ty\
[18:27] <mhahe> hello running ubuntu 12.04 on my macbook pro 6.2 and i have to reconnect to wifi every 10 seconds or so... did not have this problem before upgrade from 11.10
[18:27] <robstark> While I'm here, any recommendation on how to learn terminal?
[18:27] <mhahe> any ideas on what the issue is?
[18:27] <terafl0ps> That tutorial is fine.  It sounds like Java installed correctly, but you just need to change your JAVA_HOME to point to the new install.
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> robstark: use it instead of the gui
[18:28] <robstark> But like, a page of some kind?  Or a wiki?  Looking for a reference point here.
[18:28] <Aranel> ActionParsnip: did and removed that folder too, after issuing plasma-desktop on terminal it starts kbuildsycoca, then crashes again.
[18:28] <mhahe> also i checked before installing 12.04 on the ubuntu support for macbookpro and my laptop had no issues with wifi
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> robstark: the guys in #bash may have some nice guides
[18:28] <Aranel> oops. repost.
[18:28] <robstark> cool
[18:28] <robstark> Ty
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> Aranel: remove the folder, then reboot. may help
[18:29] <robstark> Heading out then, over there, thanks a ton
[18:29] <master0010> terafl0ps, http://pastebin.com/938DCASJ
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> np :)
[18:30] <lukys> http://www.petitiononline.com/system76/petition.html
[18:30] <lukys> Replace Proprietary BIOS with Coreboot in System76 Machines
[18:31] <terafl0ps> master0010: Great.  Open up /etc/alternatives/java_vm, /etc/bash.bashrc, and /etc/environment and set JAVA_HOME to point to your new JAVA_HOME.
[18:31] <terafl0ps> master0010:  It should take effect once you log out and log back in.
[18:31] <sukesh> Hi
[18:32] <RupertPupkin> hi sukesh do you have a question?
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> terafl0ps: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> terafl0ps: easier
[18:33] <sukesh> I have just installed 12.04 on my desktop and I'm not getting the password screen after it goes into screensaver / powersave mode. I can't get back to the GUI mode at all. My hard disk is showing activity though. Cn someone pls help?
[18:34] <master0010> terafl0ps, how do i edit java_vm?
[18:34] <master0010> terafl0ps, the other files were already with my new JAVA_HOME
[18:35] <terafl0ps> master0010:On second thought, you probably don't need to edit /etc/alternatives/java_vm.
[18:35] <master0010> terafl0ps, but the other files were already edited
[18:35] <master0010> terafl0ps, i didn't made any changes
[18:35] <terafl0ps> ActionParsnip, I think he already followed basically those same instructions, but his JAVA_HOME still points to Java 6.
[18:37] <terafl0ps> master0010: Are you running gnome right now?  This may seem odd, but I've had to log out of gnome at times and log back in to get system environment variable changes to stick sometimes.
[18:38] <remlabm> having an issue with nvidia drivers for my GF 8500 on Ubuntu 12. I have installed the latest drivers but my monitor says 3840x 1080 instead having 2x 1920x1080. What would cause that?
[18:38] <master0010> i've done that several times
[18:38] <Dr_Willis> remlabm:  if using twinview the system sees one very wide monitor.
[18:38] <master0010> every time i make a change i logout and log in
[18:38] <remlabm> Dr_Willis: what should my Xconfig be set on?
[18:39] <remlabm> Dr_Willis: by default it had my 2nd monitor disbaled
[18:42] <terafl0ps> master0010, It has to be defined in one of those files for system-wide environment variables or one of the scripts executed at login by your user.  You may want to double check those places to make sure that the old JAVA_HOME definition is isn't appearing anywhere in those files *after* the new JAVA_HOME definition.  If It's defined twice, the second one would win.
[18:43] <sokak> yay, found an one liner to kill dupes in sources.list, just wanted to share
[18:44] <remlabm> So i guess the issue is, ubuntu is not picking up my 2nd monitor. Can i manually add that do xorg.conf with out breaking everything?
[18:45] <master0010> terafl0ps, thats what im thinking... but i don't find nothing about java 6 in any config file
[18:45] <jagginess> remlabm, does the X log say it's picking up e-did information from the second monitor ? (/var/log/Xorg.0.log)
[18:46] <newmar> hi, I have a toshiba u505 laptop and after de ubuntu upgrade the battery dont keep more than one hour working, anyone can help me?
[18:46] <jagginess> remlabm, is this monitor really a "tv" ?
[18:46] <terafl0ps> master0010: You can use that recursive grep command to find the old Java 6 path wherever it may be hiding.
[18:47] <remlabm> jagginess it does. i dont want to paste in here.. No same monitors, 2x 24inch acers
[18:47] <Dr_Willis> remlabm:  run nvidia-settings as root. enable twinview. set monitors how you like.save to sorg.conf. restart X
[18:47] <sukesh> Rupertpupkin I have just installed 12.04 on my desktop and I'm not getting the password screen after it goes into screensaver / powersave mode. I can't get back to the GUI mode at all. My hard disk is showing activity though. Cn someone pls help?
[18:47] <jagginess> !paste
[18:47] <remlabm> Dr_Willis: i cant use twinview, I rotate one monitor :)
[18:47] <jagginess> remlabm, ^
[18:48] <Dr_Willis> rotate?
[18:48] <terafl0ps> find /etc/* -exec grep "any string I want to find anywhere in any config file" -exec grep -il {} \;
[18:48] <newmar> anyone can help me with the problem of my battery, or have the toshiba u505 laptop and know how to do it work better with ubuntu?
[18:49] <remlabm> http://paste.ubuntu.com/997862/
[18:49] <remlabm> yes, i rotate my left monitor so it is 1024x1920
[18:49] <Dr_Willis> newmar:  id say check the forums and askubuntu.com for your exact laptop. there may be some battery tweaks for it. The powersaveing stuff for some laptops. dont work very well.
[18:49] <innociv_> What do I do about a package depending on libmysqlclient15off when I have libmysqlclient16?  libmysqlclient15off  is not longer in the repo.
[18:50] <master0010> terafl0ps, thanks for the help. I think i found it :) i was looking on the bash.bashrc file..... but it was on the ~/.bashrc
[18:50] <jagginess> remlabm, that's not the whole log, try using xclip or pastebinit, eg --> cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | xclip   -- then you can use the middle-mouse button to paste in the textbox at the pastebin site (provide the new url please)
[18:50] <terafl0ps> Ah, that would do it.
[18:50] <remlabm> oh you want the whole thing? sorry i thought you just wanted the nvidia snippet
[18:50] <jagginess> remlabm, xclip can be installed - apt-get install xclip
[18:51] <tomreyn> innociv_: don't install packages which are not made for your ubuntu release.
[18:51] <remlabm> jagginess : http://paste.ubuntu.com/997866/
[18:51] <Dr_Willis> http://zuttobenkyou.wordpress.com/2009/10/04/linux-nvidia-xinerama-guide-rotating-just-one-monitor-in-a-dual-head-setup/
[18:52] <newmar> Dr_Willis, i tried there but there isnt my problem
[18:53] <Dr_Willis> i have a bigger ieeus ehre my X server gets amazingly sluggush after running for some time. Like right now. I can type faster then it can display... how annoying. I thought the last updatew  fixed it.
[18:53] <ikonia> last RealEyes
[18:54] <ikonia> oops
[18:54] <RealEyes> <.<
[18:54] <jagginess> remlabm, so you have two monitors of the same brand?  "Acer G235H"
[18:54] <remlabm> jagginess, yup same exact model
[18:55] <jagginess> remlabm, what happens when you type "xrandr" alone in a terminal box?
[18:55] <jagginess> remlabm, does it mention both monitors?
[18:55] <remlabm> yup says 2 things are connected
[18:56] <jagginess> remlabm, did you try the Display option from system settings?
[18:56] <remlabm> it only shows one monitor as "laptop"
[18:58] <Somelauw> Is there a more convenient way to edit a zip file then the usual extracting and eventually bundling it again?
[18:58] <jagginess> remlabm, that's weird.. so what about the xorg.conf file.. did you make one?
[18:58] <graingert_> Somelauw: sometimes
[18:58] <Somelauw> Also I have the same question for tar.gz, rar etc.
[18:58] <BlackWeb> I'm trying to configure dns on my local machine which I entered the hostname along with there ip's in /etc/resolv.conf.  how would i restart dns or if its not recognizing the hostnames still would dns just need to be restarted
[18:58] <graingert_> Somelauw: I believe file roller does that, but hides it
[18:58] <remlabm> jagginess, this is the default one, i have not edited. i turned on twinview just to see if the 2nd monitor was working, but then turned it back off
[18:59] <graingert_> Somelauw: ISO lets you delete files by flipping a bit in the file descripto
[18:59] <jagginess> Somelauw, dunno how stable it is but i think there's a fuse filesystem for zip (meaning you can get a mountpoint for it)
[18:59] <graingert_> r
[18:59] <remlabm> jagginess, do you want me to post my xorg.conf?
[18:59] <jagginess> remlabm, yes.. actually i noticed twinview is still on as shown in the x log
[18:59] <Somelauw> jagginess: That sounds cool.
[18:59] <jagginess> remlabm, you can pastebin the xorg.conf file
[18:59] <infame> Hi... My "WIndow decorator" keeps on dying, at random times.... It's a bit annoying having to type: compiz-decorator --replace all the time, is there a workaround??
[18:59] <xangua> BlackWeb: so you want to set a dns¿
[19:00] <remlabm> jaginess, http://paste.ubuntu.com/997875/
[19:00] <jagginess> Somelauw, you can always extract 1 file, modify it, then re-inject it back into the archive is another
[19:00] <dontknow> cinnamon is awesome
[19:00] <graingert_>  infame: fusion icon
[19:00] <BlackWeb> ya right now have 3 computers on local network and want to be able to refer to them by hostname instead of Ip
[19:00] <itaws> how to program c++ in ubuntu ?
[19:00] <ikonia> itaws: same as any other os
[19:00] <Orpheon> itaws: Get CodeBlocks
[19:00] <ikonia> itaws: c++ is the same on any platform
[19:00] <Orpheon> you already have gcc
[19:00] <Orpheon> you're all set
[19:01] <graingert_> infame: does it happen after you run unity --reset
[19:01] <graingert_> this will reset all your us settings
[19:01] <graingert_> ui*
[19:01] <jagginess> remlabm, do you want xinerama?
[19:01] <BlackWeb> which i placed hostnames and ips in /etc/resolv.conf and still it can resolve the hostnames do i need to restart dns or do something else besides just modifying /etc/resolv.conf
[19:01] <infame> Er... I'll have to try it out
[19:01] <infame> Thanks, for any possible solutions.
[19:01] <remlabm> jagginess, from what ive been told, i want to stay away from xserver and xinerama
[19:01] <jagginess> remlabm, uh..
[19:02] <remlabm> that was in this channel, i was told dont use xinerama
[19:02] <jagginess> remlabm, you have xinerama off.. that's what I'm believing you're after, no?
[19:02] <jagginess> remlabm, who said that?
[19:02] <itaws> but i programmed c++ in window but in ubuntu i donot know how to start  and where to start ?
[19:02] <remlabm> i forget, wasnt to long ago either
[19:02] <jagginess> remlabm, maybe if you enable twinview that xinerama may have be turned off.. but you have to consult the docs..
[19:02] <Dr_Willis> twinview supercedes xinerama
[19:02] <jagginess> remlabm, i said rename xorg.conf to xorg.conf_bak..
[19:03] <b3lsatar> please someone help me to fix wirless on ubuntu
[19:03] <Dr_Willis> twinview is like nvidias own xinerama+extras
[19:03] <jagginess> remlabm, stop lightdm (tty1), make a new xorg file...
[19:03] <Piciu> hej
[19:03] <Piciu> HALLO
[19:03] <jagginess> remlabm, X -configure, then copy /root/xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[19:03] <jagginess> remlabm, then start lightdm.. see if dual screen works after..
[19:03] <remlabm> now that i think of it.. it might have been Dr_Willis i was talking too.
[19:03] <Piciu> jest tam keos
[19:04] <Dr_Willis> remlabm:  from what ive googled - twinview can rotate both monitors..  but not one.
[19:04] <Orpheon> itaws: open terminal
[19:04] <DJones> !pl | Piciu
[19:04] <Orpheon> type in "sudo apt-get install codeblocks"
[19:04] <Orpheon> I think it's called
[19:04] <SnowmanX11> Has somebody experienced since the last (grub) update in 12.04 that win7 dual boot does not work? Chainloader fails.
[19:04] <Piciu> yes ok
[19:04] <Orpheon> it's in my opinion the best C++ editor
[19:04] <remlabm> so what is the difference between using xinerama and using built in display
[19:04] <Dr_Willis> remlabm:  xinerams can rotate one. but then you lose some of the extra twinview features
[19:05] <jagginess> remlabm, before making a new xorg.conf perhaps you can try the nvidia-settings-<> command, try to enable the second monitor with that
[19:05] <Dr_Willis> the build in  display tool - only works with the gl noevau drivers i belive - not the nvidisda ones
[19:05] <wilee-nilee> SnowmanX11, this a fresh install, have you run sudo update-grub in ubuntu?
[19:05] <remlabm> Oh, so if i disable the nouveau drivers, that borks the built in display
[19:05] <remlabm> didnt realize they fit and in hand
[19:05] <Guest73403> ciao
[19:05] <SnowmanX11> It was an update and yes, I did. I have even reinstalled it. It worked ones and when I tried 2nd time it failed again.
[19:05] <remlabm> trying that now jagginess
[19:06] <Guest73403> !list
[19:06] <pijush> hello
[19:06] <jagginess> remlabm, type nvidia<tab tab>, see what tools you can use
[19:06] <jagginess> (should be only 1 or two)
after installing codeblocks , where to write and how to run it ?
[19:07] <jagginess> remlabm, it should be a gui tool too..
[19:07] <Dr_Willis> im not even sure how well the nouveau drivers handle dual monitors
[19:07] <remlabm> bug reposrt, detector, settings, unintsall, debugdump, installer, smi, xconfig
[19:07] <ubuntu__> tük varmı
[19:07] <b3lsatar> please someone help me to fix wirless on ubuntu
[19:07] <ubuntu__> TÜRK VARMı??
[19:07] <bennypr0fane> hello, could anyone take a look at this forum thread?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11952839#post11952839 I can't get my wlan chip to work with Ubuntu 12.04. There's confusion with the drivers...
[19:08] <bennypr0fane> ubuntu_ english only, sorry!
[19:08] <jagginess> remlabm, you runnign the nvidia-settings gui tool?
[19:08] <ubuntu__> what is ubuntu 12.04 live cd pasword
[19:08] <remlabm> yup
[19:08] <ikonia> there isn't one
[19:08] <jagginess> remlabm, can u list both monitors?
[19:08] <bennypr0fane> ubuntu_ it shouldn't have an
[19:08] <remlabm> yup
[19:08] <Wiz_KeeD> hey guys, can anyone tell me if there's a way i can install the drivers under ubuntu 10.04 ? http://www.linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#Supported_devices
[19:08] <bennypr0fane> *a password
[19:08] <Wiz_KeeD> it says yes (2.6.33+) and i think i have an older version
[19:08] <jagginess> remlabm, so you should be able to activate the second monitor probably
[19:09] <remlabm> but the 2nd one has everything as "unkonwn"
[19:09] <ubuntu__> what is ubuntu 12.04 live cd password
[19:09] <sirriffsalot> Anyone know what has happened to amsn on ubuntu 12.04?
[19:09] <bennypr0fane> ubuntu_ , there is no password
[19:09] <Dr_Willis> Only time ive seen the live cd ask for a password is when it was badly burnt, or some how messed up
[19:10] <Dr_Willis> the default user is 'ubuntu' i belive.. but for some odd reason when i installed 12.04 it was like 'test' on the live cd as the username.. not sure what was up with that
[19:10] <jagginess> remlabm, you called it "Unknown" in your xorg.conf file..
[19:10] <meoblast001> there's something really confusing about unity for me
[19:10] <remlabm> jagginess, so what do you recommend i do from this point?
[19:10] <meoblast001> when i have thunderbird running, the amount of new emails it shows in unity is the amount of new items in my spam box
[19:10] <bennypr0fane> Dr_Willis I'm on live usb, I ahve Ubuntu as usr name
[19:10] <jagginess> remlabm, i recommend you pastebin a sample X -configure makes..
[19:10] <meoblast001> is there a way to change this?
[19:11] <jagginess> remlabm, type stop lightdm, then do X -configure, start lightdm, then pastebin /root/xorg.conf.new the sample
[19:12] <Wiz_KeeD> does anyone know how i can upgrade my kernel with ubuntu 10.04 over 2.6.33?
[19:12] <OerHeks>  sirriffsalot the "amsn" package was deleted from the ubuntu repository, don't know why.
[19:12] <ubuntu__> What is the password for the ubuntu live cd
[19:12] <OerHeks> ubuntu__, there is no password, user = ubuntu pass = empty
[19:12] <Dr_Willis> bennypr0fane:  as i said it was weird - the cd i got form the torrents.. not sure what the deal was. It may have been a daily build
[19:13] <ubuntu__> live cd password ?
[19:13] <ubuntu__> su ?
[19:13] <OerHeks> ubuntu__, read ^^^
[19:13] <remlabm2> jagginess, what did you need from the X -configure?
[19:14] <Wiz_KeeD> nobody?
[19:14] <jagginess> remlabm2, that command makes the sample xorg file in /root
[19:15] <jagginess> remlabm2, run that command as the superuser
[19:15] <remlabm2> ok did that
[19:15] <jagginess> remlabm2, superuser's home is "/root"
[19:15] <jagginess> remlabm2, so pastebin the sample file
[19:15] <BlueChaos> hellow guys
[19:16] <ubuntu__> ubuntu live cd password? please?
[19:16] <remlabm2> jagginess, didnt work, ways , Configuration Failed
[19:16] <OerHeks> ubuntu__, i answered your question a couple of minutes ago.
[19:16] <remlabm2> Number of screens does not match the number jo detected devices
[19:16] <oCean> ubuntu__: there is NO password for the ubuntu user. If you need root privileges, then use sudo command
[19:17] <oCean> !sudo | ubuntu__
[19:17] <BlueChaos> ocean
[19:17] <BlueChaos> are u  /
[19:17] <oCean> BlueChaos: what?
[19:17] <BlueChaos> I need help to figure out how can i add some modules intro webmin pannel
[19:17] <BlueChaos> know ?
[19:18] <ubuntu__> Türk yok mu?
[19:18] <georgelappies> ubuntu_, there is no password, nothing, blank, nada
[19:18] <sirriffsalot> OerHeks: aawh...
[19:18] <oCean> !tr | ubuntu__
[19:18] <sirriffsalot> OerHeks: where do you check the ubuntu "repository" chief database as it were?
[19:19] <oCean> BlueChaos: this channel can not help you with webmin, it is not supported with ubuntu
[19:19] <BlueChaos> lol
[19:19] <BlueChaos> I have installed on my unbuntu 12.04
[19:19] <BlueChaos> check this out
[19:19] <oCean> BlueChaos: yes, but it is not supported
[19:19] <oCean> BlueChaos: please stop
[19:19] <OerHeks> sirriffsalot, it is removed, as you can see in softwarecentre/synaptic.
[19:19] <BlueChaos> so
[19:19] <xangua> ubuntu_ for live cd¿ tried user: ubuntu password: leave it blank
[19:20] <sirriffsalot> OerHeks: yeah, but sometimes one has to add a repository for it to be available
[19:20] <oCean> sirriffsalot: you can also use ubottu for searching for package information
[19:20] <BlueChaos> tell me u one software to us and afcourse to bee supported by unbuntu for manage' this sh1t over here
[19:20] <ikonia> BlueChaos: that language is unacceptable
[19:20] <ubuntu__> thanks
[19:20] <oCean> BlueChaos: mind your language in this channel please
[19:20] <OerHeks> sirriffsalot, yes i found a 'amsn-daily'  ppa, if that is what you want >>https://launchpad.net/~amsn-daily/+archive/ppa
[19:21] <sirriffsalot> OerHeks: So I can add that and things'll be dandy?
[19:21] <Guest35585>  hola hi hello :)
[19:21] <jagginess> remlabm2, that's fine.. it still made a full xorg sample file
[19:21] <jagginess> remlabm2, did you pastebin it
[19:21] <sirriffsalot> OerHeks: where is the chief repository list as it were?
[19:21] <xangua> OerHeks: sirriffsalot and all build failed
[19:21] <BlueChaos> ok sorry tell me one software to use for manage from webs my pc
[19:21] <OerHeks> sirriffsalot, it is a personal testing archiv, no succes guaranteed, and ubuntu does not support ppa troubles.
[19:21] <sirriffsalot> xangua: hmm?
[19:21] <oCean> sirriffsalot: please note that PPA's are 3rd party repositories
[19:22] <jagginess> BlueChaos, you want an easy to setup remote linux?
[19:22] <sirriffsalot> oCean: 3rd party meaning?
[19:22] <BlueChaos> yes
[19:22] <jagginess> BlueChaos, like remote desktop?
[19:22] <BlueChaos> no ...re
[19:22] <OerHeks> 3rd party = not from ubuntu or partners
[19:22] <BlueChaos> like this
[19:22] <BlueChaos> I give u in private adress
[19:22] <Orbitey> teamviewer works well for me
[19:22] <oCean> sirriffsalot: not under our "control", so unsupported. Maintainers can do whatever they want with their software and their repository
[19:23] <xangua> OerHeks: did you notice the ppe you recomended has All packages failed to build¿
[19:23] <sirriffsalot> oCean: so a good idea to check up on the reviews before install?:P
[19:23] <xangua> ppa*
[19:23] <remlabm2> jagginess, i cant find it to pastebin it... there is nothing in /root that says xorg
[19:23] <jagginess> BlueChaos, it's easy..download this -- http://www.nomachine.com/preview/select-package-virtual-desktop-workstation.php?os=linux  , then use firefox from another station --> https://<ip>:4080  .. or you can use the Nomachine "Player" from mac/linux/windows and get it a bit faster than firefox
[19:23] <OerHeks> xangua, no, didn't see that, thanks for mentioning it.
[19:23] <oCean> sirriffsalot: yes, or contact the maintainers of the package. PPA pages (in launchpad) usually have some statistics about recent upload, succesful builds etc
[19:24] <jagginess> remlabm2, did you type "find /root"  ?
[19:24] <sirriffsalot> oCean: cheers mate!
[19:24] <OerHeks> so, sirriffsalot, ppa is not build right, all you can do is build the source yourself.
[19:24] <BlueChaos> let me try I annonce u if is what i'am searching for..
[19:24] <remlabm2> nothing therefor xorg.confg
[19:24] <remlabm2> nothing therefor xorg.conf*
[19:24] <sirriffsalot> OerHeks: hmm ok
[19:24] <jagginess> BlueChaos, also.. have ssh installed-- apt-get install ssh (ssh server needs to be installed of course)
[19:24] <carlos_eduardo> does someone know any website that allows me to send annonymous email?
[19:24] <jagginess> remlabm2, did you stop lightdm first?
[19:25] <remlabm2> yessir
[19:25] <GayLordUK> :)
[19:25] <jagginess> remlabm2, did you run as user root? (not sudo)
[19:25] <BlueChaos> jagginess I have already installed on my unbuntu ssh
[19:25] <remlabm2> that i didnt do... now its htere ;)
[19:26] <remlabm2> got a huge error when turning lightdm back on. Could not apply the stored configuration for monitors, and it lists all kinds of resolutions
[19:27] <ralucu> Hi all
[19:27] <jagginess> remlabm2, still waiting..
[19:28] <remlabm2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/997920/
[19:28] <ralucu> Is compiz support in gnome 3 now?
[19:28] <xangua> ralucu: unity uses compiz
[19:29] <jagginess> remlabm2, back up /etc/X11/xorg.conf to /etc/X11/xorg.conf_bak00
[19:29] <ralucu> Xangua : how about gnome 3?
[19:29] <remlabm2> ko
[19:29] <xangua> ralucu: unity is a shell for gnome3
[19:29] <jagginess> remlabm2, then cp /root/<sample> to /etc/X11/xorg.conf .. now edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change "nouveau" to "nvidia", stop lightdm, start lightdm.. see what happens..
[19:30] <ralucu> Ok thanks
[19:30] <guntbert> carlos_eduardo: that has nothing to do with ubuntu support - and as an answer: I don't think that such a site exists
[19:32] <realpain> Magyarul kerdezhetek?
[19:32] <ralucu> Ok next question i
[19:32] <ralucu> Can ubuntu support android?
[19:33] <ralucu> In kernel 3.4 ?
[19:33] <guntbert> !hu | realpain
[19:34] <DJones> !hu | realpain
[19:34] <remlabm2> jagginess, started lightdm, get the resolutio error, only 1 monitor
[19:35] <ox1de> I have one minor qualm with ubuntu OS.... that is that there should be better music visualizers available.
[19:35] <ox1de> do you think this could be upgraded?
[19:35] <terafl0ps> ralucu, You can think of Android as a completely different Linux distribution from Ubuntu.
[19:35] <jagginess> remlabm2, do you have "nvidia" for Card0 and Card1 ?
[19:36] <RidDrib> Helo
[19:37] <RidDrib> Puerto Rico
[19:37] <remlabm2> jagginess, i did, there has to be something else going on here, its showing 2 gfx cards and 4 monitors in this config
[19:37] <Guest83919> jagginess
[19:37] <terafl0ps> ralucu: Google built Android, so asking if Ubuntu can support Android doesn't really make sense because the two are essentially two different Linux distributions with different purposes in mind.
[19:38] <RidDrib> How can create server??
[19:39] <mneptok> RidDrib: serving what?
[19:40] <ultrixx_> RidDrib: you want to set up a webserver or mailserver or what?
[19:41] <Guest45211> e ae
[19:42] <Lorphos> Hello.. is there a mirror for kernel.ubuntu.com - it is extremely slow
[19:43] <g0th> hi
[19:43] <detrate> has anyone had a problem where flash in chromium shows through onto other tabs?
[19:43] <detrate> I can't seem to get it to go away without restarting
[19:43] <detrate> I've tried killing the flash extension
[19:43] <detrate> closing all my tabs
[19:43] <detrate> restarting my WM
[19:43] <g0th> when I try to install wine or skype, ubuntu tries to install a whole bunch of packages ending in :i386, but I have amd64, how do I install either skype or wine?
[19:43] <Lorphos> kernel.ubuntu.com takes several minutes to respond to a single HTTP request
[19:43] <g0th> the list of the mentioned packages is huge btw
[19:45] <manigma77_> Is there an easy way to get wifi going on ubuntu 12.04? I have the acer niplijy 802.11b/g/n card, but ubuntu doesn't recognize it. I tried to hook up my ethernet, but I couldn't get that to work either. Sorry, new to ubuntu.
[19:45] <manigma77_> *niplify
[19:45] <e_t_> g0th: Skype is proprietary and they only offer a 32bit version. That's why you need all the i386 libraries. With 12.04 though, I think they're using multi-arch, so some or all of those may be virtual packages, I'm not sure.
[19:46] <bennypr0fane> hello, could anyone take a look at this forum thread?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11952839#post11952839 I can't get my wlan chip to work with Ubuntu 12.04. There's confusion with the drivers...
[19:47] <Lorphos> who takes care of kernel.ubuntu.com? It needs a little loving.. seems to be almost completely down
[19:47] <bennypr0fane> manigma77_ hwo are you online right now?
[19:47] <samira> fine
[19:47] <samira> tanx
[19:47] <samira> and u?
[19:48] <manigma77_> windows 7, I have a wubi install
[19:48] <manigma77_> just looking to do some building for android
[19:48] <g0th> e_t_: what does that mean? multirach?
[19:48] <e_t_> Lorphos: I noticed major slowness from archive.ubuntu.com a couple of days ago. I switched to another mirror.
[19:48] <remlabm2> is there a down side to using the nouveau drivers? i feel the nvidia ones are just causing me headaches
[19:49] <e_t_> g0th: It means binaries/libraries that can be used for either 32 or 64bit. http://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch
[19:49] <g0th> how can I tell if it is multiarch or not?
[19:50] <bennypr0fane> manigma77_ there is this magnificent script for diagnosing your WiIi, I recently used it to look at my own WiFI problem: http://sourceforge.net/projects/wirelessscript/
[19:50] <g0th> there is skype and skype:i386
[19:50] <g0th> and similar for other packages
[19:50] <Noobist> Hey, I'm new to ubuntu, so I have a problem
[19:50] <Lorphos> e_t_ is there a mirror for kernel.ubuntu.com?
[19:50] <Ca11um> Hey guys.
[19:50] <manigma77_> thank you bennypr0fane, i'll check it out
[19:51] <Noobist> Using wine, if I wanted to add launch parameters to a program, how do I do that?
[19:51] <g0th> e_t_: skype requires some packages that end in ":i386"
[19:51] <Noobist> Like, -window
[19:51] <bennypr0fane> manigma77_ do you need instructions for running the script?
[19:51] <g0th> e_t_: so I should just install all those (100's of) packages just for skype?
[19:51] <Ca11um> I saw this screenshot a few days ago (can't find it now), but it showed a 12.04 login screen; it had a bunch of random usernames, "Guest Session", and "Network Account"....
[19:51] <Ca11um> Does Ubuntu support network accounts, like an Active Directory?
[19:52] <Lorphos> yes for example LDAP
[19:52] <e_t_> g0th: How badly do you want Skype? If you must have Skype, does it really matter what the dependencies are? If you can do without Skype and don't want the extra packages, don't install it.
[19:52] <manigma77_> bennypr0fane, yes please, I am looking on the main site now, but I haven't learned the basic terminal codes yet.
[19:52] <bennypr0fane> manigma77_ here's everything about it: http://wiki.bodhilinux.com/doku.php?id=wireless_script
[19:52] <Ca11um> So I can setup a Ubuntu Server with LDAP, and it hosts all the accounts?
[19:52] <manigma77_> bennypr0fane thanx again
[19:53] <terafl0ps> Ca11um:  You can also use winbind to talk to Active Directory.
[19:53] <e_t_> Lorphos: I don't know.
[19:53] <Ca11um> I want a controlled interface with restrictions (like Group Policy), and the ability to lively sign in to an account hosted on a server.
[19:53] <Ca11um> So documents and such are asyncronous on all machines
[19:54] <Ca11um> asynchronous *
[19:54] <jagginess> remlabm2, this is the first attempt to get it to work.. you can scratch the previous attempts because your ServerLayout section previously was wrong.. you only had 1 monitor mentioned in it
[19:54] <bennypr0fane> once, you've run it, post the results in the forum or pastebin them and ask someone in here to take a look at them. The script prints a very neat .txt file with results
[19:54] <bennypr0fane> *@manigma77_
[19:54] <manigma77_> bennypr0fane after some research I believe I need to install the broadcom sta wireless drivers, but I can't figure out how to do it without internet
[19:55] <remlabm2> jagginess, what do you recommend next then?
[19:55] <bennypr0fane> manigma77_ do you know the name of your wlan chip?
[19:56] <manigma77_> no
[19:56] <terafl0ps> Ca11um, as far as authentication goes you have a couple choices.  You can use winbind and PAM and have your linux machines authenticate against AD, or you can maintain a NIS server and have the linux machines authenticate against that.
[19:56] <manigma77_> just acer niplify
[19:56] <celthunder> Ca11um: documents are always asynchronous unless you sync them....
[19:56] <bennypr0fane> that's the pc, or the chip?
[19:56] <g0th> e_t_: I just don't want my system to be messed up again by all kinds of dependencies conflicts/etc....
[19:56] <terafl0ps> NIS and NFS would let you setup centrally managed user accounts and home directories.
[19:57] <manigma77_> thats the wifi chip as far as I know, the computer is an acer aspire
[19:57] <Ca11um> Sorry celthunder asynchronous is the wrong word
[19:57] <Ca11um> synchronised
[19:57] <bennypr0fane> so are you in Wubi right now? and if yes, does it have internet?
[19:57] <Ca11um> And what could I use for restrictions (such as enforced wallpaper, desktop icons, restricted access to settings, etc)
[19:58] <celthunder> Ca11um: unison or rsync with ssh
[19:58] <manigma77_> no, i'm in win 7
[19:58] <bennypr0fane> but what about your Wubi install?
[19:58] <manigma77_> it has no internet, ethernet or wireless
[19:58] <celthunder> Ca11um: hmm never tried to restrikt that but making the configs read only ?
[19:58] <e_t_> g0th: As long as you use the package manager, dependency conflicts are very rarely an issue. That's what package managers are for. I've installed Skype of x64 with no problems, several times.
[19:59] <manigma77_> bennypr0fane, can i pm you?
[19:59] <OerHeks> !offline | manigma77_
[19:59] <bennypr0fane> sure
[19:59] <celthunder> e_t_: package managers are for many things, dependency issues were not actually covered by early managers
[19:59] <Ca11um> I guess it's not common for Linux to be used in an untrustworthy environment then, eh?
[19:59] <jagginess> remlabm2, what xorg.conf config are you using? did you try both Card0 and Card1 with "nvidia" ?
[19:59] <g0th> e_t_: hmm, for me I always get dependency conflicts with ubuntu
[20:00] <celthunder> Ca11um: i didnt say it couldnt be done just said ive never had to do it.  my stuffs locked down but i never tried to restrict that in particular
[20:00] <g0th> e_t_: I tried it now (to install all) and hope for the best
[20:00] <Ca11um> Okay, thanks.
[20:00] <Lorphos> wow, it takes more than 5 minutes for a request to kernel.ubuntu.com to go through
[20:01] <terafl0ps> In a lot of cases you can restrict access to settings by having your NIS users in a group that is not a member of some of the system groups that exist to manage specific settings.
[20:01] <Ca11um> So what were the things to look into; NIS, NFS, winbind?
[20:01] <Lorphos> the actual transfer once it starts is fast
[20:02] <terafl0ps> Yes.  NIS or Winbind though.  You probably don't want both.
[20:02] <tommyfun> Ca11um: If you're that worried about locking down the systems, take a look at the LTSP
[20:02] <Ca11um> Thanks
[20:02] <Ca11um> Also, what exactly is SELinux?
[20:02] <bluesnow> Hi, I'm wondering if I can update a 11.04 LiveUSB to a 12.04 LiveUSB without affecting the computer that I'm running the USB on
[20:03] <Ca11um> All I know is it's a "security" program that the NSA introduced
[20:03] <remlabm2> jagginess, it is only showing one card and yes its nvidia
[20:03] <jagginess> remlabm2, i think you should stick with 1 of the drivers and work on it.. if you can't get nvidia to work, lemme know, and then we can try nouveau.. i haven't been on more than 1 minute about this because i never got any feedback if you edited both Card0 and Card1 to nvidia
[20:04] <tommyfun> SELinux is just a way to lock down a system
[20:04] <angel282> Does Ubuntu have command for restoring the sources.list file? or some source.list generator?
[20:04] <kovu> hi guys im having a problem with pinguy 11.04 - Ive tried installing via live usb and CD and both times it hangs at the first install screen (the one that has 2 tickboxes asking if you want to update and if you want to install 3rd party software). can anyone offer advice? would it be worth installing a previous version and then updating versions inside the old version?
[20:04] <remlabm2> jagginesss, im responding, and im not stepping off you rpath, im just curoius why nouveau shouldnt be used?
[20:05] <tommyfun> I think AppArmor is in vogue now
[20:05] <yeats> !selinux
[20:06] <whiskers75> !squid3
[20:06] <whiskers75> !squid
[20:06] <alan83> hey hi may i know how can i use netbeans with j2me installed?
[20:06] <whiskers75> !bitcoin
[20:06] <freedomrun> hello.. does somebody know how to get rid of menu in nautilus window as there is already global menu of it
[20:07] <javierf_> Hi. After upgrading to 12.04, the scroll function of my touchpad doesn't work properly. Its sensibility is much smaller than it was and it only works on the very edge. Can't find an answer in google. Anyone has an idea what can i do?
[20:07] <whiskers75> !help
[20:07] <whiskers75> !paitence
[20:07] <remlabm2> !patience
[20:07] <whiskers75> !patience
[20:09] <terafl0ps> angel28:  The easiest way to manage repositories in sources.list is probably Synaptics.
[20:10] <kovu> hello friends, I was seeing if anyone could help me , I've tried installing pinguy 11.04 on my PC from both a Live Boot (made with linux live) and a burnt cd - both times it does not let me past the first installation page (the page with 2 tickboxes asking if youd like to download updates and install 3rd party drivers for mp3 etc.)
 ive tried installing it directly from the first boot screen & by going into the live mode first and then trying.,
[20:10] <ikonia> kovu: we don't support pinguy here
[20:10] <ikonia> kovu: sorry about that, it's only ubuntu here
[20:10] <kovu> okay no problem,
[20:10] <ikonia> thanks
[20:11] <kovu> although your best advice would have been to "try installing ubuntu" ;)
[20:11] <kovu> but thats what im gonna do anyway,.
[20:11] <freedomrun> is there special unity channel?
[20:13] <freedomrun> wake me up if someone answer :)
[20:13] <robstark> KDE vs unity, thoughts?
[20:13] <OerHeks> freedomrun, unity is supported here.
[20:13] <Gosset_Inofensiu> gnome classic of course
[20:13] <angel282> Does Ubuntu have command for restoring the sources.list file? or some source.list generator?
[20:13] <ikonia> angel282: no
[20:13] <ikonia> angel282: there is no restore command
[20:13] <freedomrun> DerHeks thank you :)
[20:13] <L3top> angel282: http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[20:14] <ikonia> robstark: not really a valid discussion, it's personal taste
[20:14] <ikonia> robstark: try them, see what you like and then use it
[20:15] <smithw> Hi, I bought a laptop with an nvidia card which isn't supported by nvidia official drivers yet (GT 650M). It does have the dreaded Optimus, so I know I'll have to use either Bumblebee or Ironhide. Should I: a) install BB/IH right now; b) wait for the official driver to support it; c) wait for BB/IH specifically support it?
[20:16] <OerHeks> smithw, the wiki says bumblebee https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee there is also the #Bumblebee irc channel here on freenode, those guys are up2date
[20:17] <smithw> OerHeks, thank you very much!
[20:22] <yashwant> hi any onen how to switch on the ringing chat ringing sound from .
[20:22] <yashwant> if any one called me then it is not ringing.
[20:23] <alan83> hey hi may i know how can i use netbeans with j2me installed?
[20:24] <cosmic> hi @ all
[20:25] <sirriffsalot> How do I update my BIOS in Ubuntu...?
[20:25] <sirriffsalot> from ubuntu* rather
[20:26] <terafl0ps> sirriffsalot: You may not be able to.  I would stick to the BIOS flash utilities your computer manufacturer provides.
[20:27] <guntbert> sirriffsalot: you cannot, unless the manufacturer provides an utility
[20:27] <cosmic> I have  a new graphic card  Nvidia GT 520, since i have build in the card  and have conected the PC via HDMI Cable i have massiv problems . 1. My  Desktop doesnt fit on the TV anymore, second sound problems with game emulators. Is anyone so kind to give me hint how to get rid of my probs !?
[20:27] <sirriffsalot> Lol... how lame
[20:27] <L3top> bioses are all different sirriffsalot... they typically have a utility from your manufacturer, you may not be able to...
[20:27] <sirriffsalot> Should be a software for that in ubuntu...
[20:27] <sirriffsalot> Laame
[20:28] <L3top> cosmic: overscanning is a pain to deal with... are you using the native nouveau driver or the proprietary nvidia drivers?
[20:28] <sirriffsalot> terafl0ps: flash utilities...? How would I go about doing that?
[20:28] <cosmic> hi L3top , i am using the nativ NVIDIA
[20:28] <L3top> sirriffsalot: bios manipulation is no joke... you are best sticking to the utils
[20:28] <sirriffsalot> L3top: yeah, better leave well enough alone
[20:28] <terafl0ps> Go to your computer manufacturer's website and look under the drivers for your machine.
[20:28] <L3top> cosmic: what version of ubuntu are you on?
[20:28] <sirriffsalot> 12.04 lol:)
[20:29] <terafl0ps> There should be a section for BIOS updates.
[20:29] <melodie> hi
[20:29] <sirriffsalot> L3top: let's make it more simple then; I'm on a acer aspire x3200... Can't find how do increase the cpu speed anywhere in the bios=(
[20:29] <terafl0ps> You have to be absolutely certain (and I can't emphasize this enough) that you are downloading the correct BIOS.
[20:29] <yashwant> my empathy is not ringig while any friend is called me , please help me how to swithc on the ringigng
[20:29] <melodie> is there someone here who is used to the launchpad wiki ? (and would be willing to help with a actualization ?)
[20:29] <L3top> sirriffsalot: have you looked at the manual from your manufacturer?
[20:30] <sirriffsalot> L3top: no.. no idea where it is haha):
[20:30] <cosmic> L3top,  i think it is natty , 11.04
[20:30] <L3top> www.acer.com
[20:30] <sirriffsalot> L3top: haha, alright!
[20:30] <melodie> it is about creating a live cd from scratch I have identified something to be changed but I am not used to this wiki and don't want to make a mistake
[20:30] <remlabm> jagginess: are you still with me?
[20:31] <L3top> cosmic: dpkg-query nvidia* | grep ^ii
[20:31] <chaotix> hi, i need a hand with this:  i just deleted a virtual machine that i had in virtualbox, and clicked to delete all files, but i am not sure that everything that could be was deleted, and i need to free up space..  i created the virtual machine an hour ago and had more free space on my machine than right now after having deleted it..  i am running ubuntu 10.04, can somoene please give me a hand?  thanks in advance  :)
[20:31] <cosmic> it is the latest wich is available
[20:31] <cosmic> @ L3top
[20:32] <cosmic> its the nativ one from the nvidia homepage
[20:32] <terafl0ps> sirriffsalot: It's very likely that your CPUs multipliers and bus frequency are locked, and you won't be able to change them even with a BIOS update.
[20:33] <sirriffsalot> L3top: I can't find my computer model in the website... haha:)
[20:33] <smerz> Does anyone's ubuntu one work well? I only got trouble with it, thinking of trying dropbox.
[20:33] <sirriffsalot> L3top: Nvm, found it
[20:33] <L3top> cosmic: that would not be native... that was why I was asking. nouveau would be native. So in the nvidia settings utility I believe there is a way to resize the desktop to deal with overscanning.
[20:34] <cosmic> L3top, please be so kind to explain me , how the "original" Nvidia drive can not be native ?
[20:34] <yashwant> hi no one use empthy for chat please sole my proble while calling why ring is not working ?
[20:35] <terafl0ps> sirriffsalot: I'd also say that as a general rule I won't even attempt a BIOS update unless I am doing it to fix a bug.  If you do it wrong, your computer is bricked.
[20:35] <L3top> Native means born there vs transported there. You had to download a closed source driver from a third party source, that is not native. it is as far as you can get from it.
[20:35] <sirriffsalot> terafl0ps: I suppose you're right, but the only reason I want to do this is because I can't get my cpu rate any higher than 1.20Ghz
[20:35] <L3top> The original driver was xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
[20:36] <orflon> hello, I'd like to go back to gnome 3.2 (the classical gnome menu, instead of the new in 3.4).
[20:36] <sirriffsalot> terafl0ps: cpufreq doesn't work in setting it higher, cpufreq-info -m tells me it's back at 1.20Ghz after starting my computer the next day
[20:36] <terafl0ps> sirriffsalot: What speed do you think it should be capable of?
[20:36] <adrian_2E0SDR> I just removed LXDE and it and Openbox are still in the desktop selection, how can i remove them?
[20:37] <sirriffsalot> terafl0ps: 2.40Ghz...
[20:37] <orflon> is that only a configuration in 3.4 or should I really go back to 3.2? And how dangerous is that?
[20:37] <sirriffsalot> terafl0ps: it says so..
[20:37] <terafl0ps> Does the BIOS show the clock speed as 2.4 GHz?
[20:37] <L3top> !downgrade | orflon
[20:38] <cosmic> L3top, Thank you very much , do you think the nouvo driver will work better ?
[20:38] <L3top> I do not cosmic. The problem is the TV
[20:38] <orflon> L3top, so am I forced to use that kind of menu?
[20:38] <L3top> There is, frankly, 0 reason for manufacturers to still use overscanning. It is a byproduct of a defunct methodology.
[20:39] <L3top> !nounity | orflon
[20:39] <cosmic> Did you ran in the same kind of issue L3top  ? i am using a samsung
[20:39] <adrian_2E0SDR> I just removed LXDE and it and Openbox are still in the desktop selection, how can i remove them?
[20:40] <guntbert> !repeat | adrian_2E0SDR
[20:40] <orflon> L3top, I'm using 12.04. Does the same apply to those?
[20:40] <L3top> I run into it daily. We build our own x window and have a utility to compensate for it... but desktop is going to require the nvidia tool to do it. We explicitly break that tool because it messes with our method, so I never see it and cannot walk you through it cosmic
[20:40] <adrian_2E0SDR> Ubottu, Sorry m8ty
[20:41] <L3top> I believe so orflon.
[20:41] <orflon> thanks
[20:42] <cosmic> L3top, Thank you very muc for your support !
[20:42] <cosmic> L3top, Thank you very much for your support !
[20:42] <L3top> any time cosmic.
[20:42] <sixpack> hey everyone hope your day is going good.. I have a question regarding Chromium stable builds for Xubuntu 12.04.. I am using http://ppa.launchpad.net/chromium-daily/stable/ubuntu is this the best ppa? Thanks!
[20:42] <L3top> cosmic: you mentioned audio/games what was the issue there?
[20:42] <terafl0ps> sirriffsalot: If the BIOS already shows the clock speed as 2.4 GHz, then I don't think a BIOS update will help anyway. It's also possible that your CPU is frequency scaling down to 1.2 GHz to save power if you aren't taxing it much.
[20:42] <L3top> !ppa | sixpack
[20:43] <sirriffsalot> terafl0ps: it doesn't. it says that it can get to 2.40 but it is at 1.20
[20:43] <sirriffsalot> terafl0ps: when I run the game and set the graphics to hardcore high the cpu ghz is still at 1.20..
[20:44] <cosmic> since i use the hdmi connection , i have trouble to control my "VOLUME" via Mythtv and i have trouble using emulators like Zsnes, pcsxr , pSX , mupen64, mupen64plus , dolphin,  .... sound always "hacks" is interupted
[20:44] <cosmic> @ L3top
[20:44] <terafl0ps> sirriffsalot: Interesting.  Do the release notes on any newer BIOS updates mention the ability to change your CPU settings?
[20:44] <xomp> hello, would anyone know how I can go about capturing packets on my network in order to find out who is attacking my server and how? I think I'm getting ICMP flooded and have tried tcpdump but I don't know if this is a good method or not
[20:45] <L3top> cosmic check out our project www.linuxmce.org
[20:45] <L3top> It is up your alley.
[20:46] <guntbert> terafl0ps: it might be he has the wrong "governor" set for his cpu frequency
[20:46] <guntbert> xomp: tcpdump is good for that
[20:46] <L3top> cosmic: hdmi volume is digital, you will have no sound control from the box, it is only on the output device (like your tv).
[20:46] <L3top> cosmic: it is on or off... that is all.
[20:47] <xomp> guntbert, I'm using tcpdump -w /capture.log is this sufficient?
[20:47] <cosmic> L3top, so it is not a prob of alsa ? and the use of pulseaudio will not help right ?
[20:47] <L3top> Correct, you can only control volume at the destination device (amplifier or TV)
[20:47] <cosmic> L3top, it is even not possible to turn off / on
[20:48] <L3top> you have NO audio over hdmi? That is different.
[20:48] <xomp> guntbert, when dumping to a log file I'm opening the log in wireshark and for whatever reason my server is listed as the source for some of the ICMP flooding which is HIGHLY improbable so I don't want to end up dropping packets from my own box lol
[20:48] <L3top> cosmic: pm?
[20:49] <guntbert> xomp: I'd use tcpdump -v , but write it to some place else (*not the root*)  - and *don't let that run for a long time*!! (it might fill your file system)
[20:49] <xomp> yeah I don't write it to root. When running verbosely it just fills my console with tons of data that scrolls so fast I can't tell what's going on.
[20:50] <guntbert> xomp: sorry, I'm on my way out - Good luck :-)
[20:50] <xomp> since whoever is attacking our server is doing it with a botnet that has thousands of addresses
[20:50] <xomp> ah thanks guntbert
[20:51] <sirriffsalot> terafl0ps: no, but all I want to do is increase the cpu rate...
[20:51] <g0th> hi
[20:51] <sirriffsalot> terafl0ps: how would I do this?
[20:51] <terafl0ps> sirriffsalot: guntbert raises a good point about CPU governor settings.  This may be helpful.  http://www.pantz.org/software/cpufreq/usingcpufreqonlinux.html
[20:51] <g0th> the colors of flash movies are all wrong
[20:51] <g0th> red is blue etc
[20:51] <sirriffsalot> terafl0ps: yea, used that... gonna check it out anyway:D
[20:54] <sirriffsalot> terafl0ps: this seems to in-depth and configurative to risk on a 12.04 system... I don't want to screw things up
[20:55] <sirriffsalot> Wtf, this command sudo cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/*/cpufreq/cpuinfo_cur_freq gave me these two outputs: "1200000" and "2400000" :S:S:S
[20:55] <sirriffsalot> Does that mean I have two cpu's? Lol
[20:56] <Loshki> xomp: does any of this help? http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/karmic/man7/icmp.7.html
[20:57] <remlabm> if someone has a minute: http://askubuntu.com/questions/139983/ubuntu-12-04-and-nvidia-whoas
[20:57] <terafl0ps> sirriffsalot:  Try "cpufreq-selector -g ondemand"
[21:00] <sixpack> @g0th try to use an older version of flash it worked for me
[21:01] <xmll> #faryshta
[21:03] <ultrixx_> sirriffsalot: it seems your two cpu cores are in differen power saving states, so they differ in frequency
[21:04] <ultrixx_> sirriffsalot: does that make sense to you?
[21:06] <xmll> #faryshta
[21:07] <Dougie187> Are there any pulseaudio "experts" in here? I'm having trouble with multiple output applications. I can only get one to output at a time.
[21:09] <carlosx> holas
[21:09] <melodie> bye
[21:10] <j7> I'm getting this error when I try to run Processing: Exception in thread "AWT-EventQueue-0" java.lang.UnsupportedClassVersionError: com/sun/jdi/VirtualMachine : Unsupported major.minor version 51.0
[21:10] <j7> can anyone help?
[21:10] <ultrixx> when you try to run what?
[21:11] <j7> ultrixx: processing (processing.org)
[21:14] <sancas> i cant update my system :(
[21:14] <fuhreal> Howdy everyone!
[21:14] <sirriffsalot> ultrixx: well sure...
[21:14] <sirriffsalot> ultrixx: but still doesn't help me solve my problem haha:)
[21:15] <terafl0ps> sirriffsalot:  "sudo cpufreq-set -g ondemand"
[21:15] <j7> I'm getting this error when I try to run Processing: Exception in thread "AWT-EventQueue-0" java.lang.UnsupportedClassVersionError: com/sun/jdi/VirtualMachine : Unsupported major.minor version 51.0
[21:15] <j7> can anyone help?
[21:15] <|MUSE|> hi, I am trying to specify whether a file is executabled or not on an NTFS partition. I believe I am mounting it wrong in fstab, or is it not possible at all?
[21:16] <sirriffsalot> cpufreq-info -m tells me both are running at 1.20
[21:17] <terafl0ps> sirriffsalot: ondemand should make both scale to demand up to their max frequency.
[21:17] <j7> I'm getting this error when I try to run Processing: Exception in thread "AWT-EventQueue-0" java.lang.UnsupportedClassVersionError: com/sun/jdi/VirtualMachine : Unsupported major.minor version 51.0 .   Can anyone help?
[21:17] <sirriffsalot> terafl0ps: is there a way to make them both go for "performance"?
[21:18] <sirriffsalot> 2.40Ghz in other words
[21:18] <ultrixx> j7: it runs fine on my computer. what ubuntu version are you using?
[21:18] <terafl0ps> sudo cpufreq-set -g performance
[21:18] <j7> ultrixx, precise
[21:18] <j7> ultrixx, 12.04
[21:18] <terafl0ps> but then they will stay at 2.4 all the time
[21:18] <sirriffsalot> terafl0ps: guessed so, just had to check:P
[21:19] <sirriffsalot> terafl0ps: hmm, well I guess ondemand is ok for a start
[21:19] <terafl0ps> You can always flip between ondemand and performance.  I think their is a config file somewhere that lets this setting survive a reboot.
[21:20] <ultrixx> j7: and you have downloaded the latest version from processing.org?
[21:21] <sancas> watch my apt-get update/upgrade errors http://pastebin.com/Mqjwhq9g
[21:23] <ultrixx> j7: which jre are you using? i am using 6. have you got version 7 installed?
[21:23] <j7> ultrixx, how do I check?
[21:23] <Omen_20> hi everyone :) finally got my wireless working in Ubuntu. Hadnt been using it since 11.04. Missed it
[21:24] <ultrixx> in terminal type java -version
[21:24] <j7>  version 6, I'm using version 6, ultrixx
[21:25] <terafl0ps> sirriffsalot: I think ondemand is a sensible default setting for basically any system unless you actually run into problems with frequency scaling, overheating, or power consumption on a laptop.
[21:26] <LinuX2half> I have a little application called "preload" installed but I cannot seem to access the interface.
[21:27] <LinuX2half> I'm not sure if it's integrated in the command line.
[21:27] <terafl0ps> I had one Dell laptop with a 2.4 GHz core 2 duo that literally could not be kept at 100% CPU utilization without overheating and shutting down because Dell didn't give the machine big enough heatsinks or fast enough fans.
[21:28] <ultrixx> j7: does this error occur when starting processing or when starting an app that was written with it
[21:29] <j7>  ultrixx: when starting processing
[21:31] <j7> ultrixx: I think I installed the sun java jdk and not the open jdk
[21:32] <praeludium> Is there a way to install Ubuntu on Natty? I seems to have GLib issues.
[21:33] <terafl0ps> j7, The error sounds like it could be caused by trying to run a class with the wrong version of Java.  I would double check what version of Java your version of processing requires.
[21:35] <killtrace> hi guys,does ubuntu downloads something in background,beside updates?
[21:37] <raidhtc> i have a wired (lan) connection and a wireless(wan) connection . the 1st one is for a local network, the second one is for internet. when both are enabled ubuntu by defaults tries to find internet through lan, how can i make it prefer wireless connection for internet traffic?
[21:40] <raidhtc> back, did i miss an answer?
[21:41] <vicapow> is gparted pretty much the best live cd for increasing a hdd partition size?
[21:41] <raidhtc> i have a wired (lan) connection and a wireless(wan) connection . the 1st one is for a local network, the second one is for internet. when both are enabled ubuntu by defaults tries to find internet through lan, how can i make it prefer wireless connection for internet traffic?
[21:42] <blackmatrix_ny> hey all...any alternatives to using gnome-keyring on ubuntu 10.04 ?
[21:43] <Boreeas> For some reason, the "at"-key (alt_gr+q) stopped working for me. Pressing it does nothing. Does anyone know how to fix that?
[21:45] <blackmatrix_ny> https://gist.github.com/947237  <---- Huge security vulnerability in ubuntu
[21:45] <terafl0ps> raidhtc, you should be able to set your default gateway to the IP address of your wireless router and have it work.
[21:47] <Gnea> blackmatrix_ny: dude, that's from 2008. 4 years ago..
[21:47] <raidhtc> terafl0ps my wireless card is set to dhcp and my wired card has manual ip on a network without a gateway.
[21:48] <raidhtc> when i disable eth0 internet works
[21:48] <raidhtc> when i enable eth0  :) i dont have internet
[21:48] <blackmatrix_ny> Gnea, yup...and it has still not been addressed, and it really makes ubuntu a laughing stock when security is the important thing that they are flaunting
[21:49] <terafl0ps> raidhtc, What subnets do your wireless and wired networks use?
[21:49] <blackmatrix_ny> Gnea, not to mention the attitude of the developers that if you are already logged in then everything is up for grabs which is a microsoft way of thinking about security
[21:49] <oconnore> blackmatrix_ny: the _old_ microsoft way of security
[21:50] <MattFromJax> Anyone get triple tapping working on a synaptics pad?  I'm attempting to pass a true triple click, not an emulated button.  I.e. to select an entire line of text.
[21:50] <raidhtc> i believe they are on 24 both, but one has ips from 192.168.0.0  range and the other from 192.168.10.0 range
[21:50] <anega> Hi any idea why Ubuntu 12 does not detect internal 3G modem?
[21:50] <blackmatrix_ny> oconnore, correct...even microsoft doesnt do this blatant exposure of your passwords these days...whats up with ubuntu
[21:51] <samd> blackmatrix_ny: sorry to get into the talk, i just logged in , whats the problem you guys are talking about?
[21:51] <blackmatrix_ny> samd, the gnome-keyring spilling all the beans about your passwords in plain text format
[21:51] <raidhtc> terafl0ps,  i believe they are on 24 both, but one has ips from 192.168.0.0  range and the other from 192.168.10.0 range
[21:52] <samd> blackmatrix_ny: ohh i see, thanks
[21:52] <terafl0ps> raidhtc, can you enable your wired NIC, run "netstat -rn"  and then pastebin the output once you disable the wired connection to get back on the Internet?
[21:52] <blackmatrix_ny> the issue had been raised about 3-4 years ago and i still see a recent thread in ubuntu forums and this simple stuff has still not been addressed
[21:52] <blackmatrix_ny> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1965128&highlight=gnome-keyring
[21:52] <DarwinSurvivor> MattFromJax: what have you tried so far (and what were the results)?
[21:52] <raidhtc> terafl0ps,  brb
[21:52] <DarwinSurvivor> MattFromJax: also, did it work in a previous verions (if so, which version(s))
[21:53] <blackmatrix_ny> how are we to recommend ubuntu to others when ubuntu can't even obviously encrypt and save your passwords...this really suck
[21:53] <MattFromJax> DarwinSurvivor: Adjusting FastClick, changing double tap times, disabling third button
[21:53] <terafl0ps> raidhtc: can you also pastebin what you get from ifconfig too ?
[21:54] <MattFromJax> DarwinSurvivor: Unknown.  First time with Linux and touchpad.  It is a MacBook 5,1 if that helps.
[21:54] <raidhtc> test
[21:54] <raidhtc> did i DC at all?
[21:54] <DarwinSurvivor> MattFromJax: by "tripple click" do you mean tapping 3 times, or tapping with 3 fingers?
[21:54] <terafl0ps> raidhtc: You appeared to be in the channel the whole time.
[21:54] <blackmatrix_ny> I mean how easy it would be for a malicious website or malware to run a command on keyring and get all your passwords
[21:55] <raidhtc> terafl0ps, strange, sec i will pastebin
[21:55] <oconnore> blackmatrix_ny: that's probably the big issue -- ubuntu developers aren't facing a large malware issue yet, and are therefore lulled into a false sense of security.
[21:55] <blackmatrix_ny> and the complete reluctance of ubuntu developers regarding this issue which was raised a long time ago and never been addressed is so discomforting
[21:56] <euvaldo> Hello, something is wrong with my flash plugin. I'm using xubuntu 11.10. It worked fine from the CD, but it isn't anymore after I installed the system. I reinstalled the plugin lots of times and nothing happened. I've been searching google but all tutorials I've found seem pretty old. Youtube videos, for instance, simply don't show up. Are there any clues on what is happening, what should I do in order to make it work normally?
[21:56] <MattFromJax> DarwinSurvivor: tapping 3 times.
[21:56] <blackmatrix_ny> oconnore, I'm lulled too by migrating to Ubuntu for better security to find out that I am more exposed now
[21:57] <raidhtc> terafl0ps, http://pastebin.com/YPc5HbTr here you go
[21:58] <DarwinSurvivor> !flash | euvaldo did you try these instructions?
[21:58] <blackmatrix_ny> oconnore, I was actually working on a proof of concept to embed the python script into a javascript and gather all the passwords...but my javascript skills are weak but it's very possible for somebody with better JS skills than me
[21:58] <DarwinSurvivor> MattFromJax: oh, I've never tried that, sorry. I thought you meant 3-finger tap (which I have)
[21:59] <praeludium> Is there a way to install Ubuntu on Natty? I seems to have GLib issues.
[21:59] <oconnore> blackmatrix_ny: you mean to run the script from a website? I would think firefox wouldn't allow that.
[21:59] <terafl0ps> raidhtc, What's happening is your wired router becomes the default gateway when you connect.
[22:00] <MattFromJax> DarwinSurvivor: thanks anyways.  How would you change the address in a browser bar? The content of the textbox isn't selected on focus.
[22:00] <DarwinSurvivor> MattFromJax: you mean Ctrl+L?
[22:00] <raidhtc> thats what i was thinking. how can i override this terafl0ps ? make default gateway my wlan0 connection
[22:00] <blackmatrix_ny> oconnore, first i would write the script content to a file and then execute the script...
[22:01] <DarwinSurvivor> blackmatrix_ny: I don't think that would work running from javascript because javascript is sandboxed. otherwise you could just as easily write a javascript that would download the users' e-mails from thunderbird!
[22:02] <DarwinSurvivor> MattFromJax: have you looked at the synaptics documentation? There have been quite a few additions in the last 6 months or so, it may very well support tripple-click with a simply xorg adjustment
[22:02] <terafl0ps> raidhtc, you may be able to configure DHCP on your router not to provide a default gateway.
[22:03] <DarwinSurvivor> blackmatrix_ny: if a website can write an executable script and then run it with the same permissions as your user account, you have MUCH bigger problems...
[22:03] <terafl0ps> raidhtc, You could also use static addresses and not assign a gateway in the wired config.
[22:03] <raidhtc> my wired router has disabled dhcp. i use static adressing. i tried putting 0.0.0.0 as gateway adress but it didnt work. if i assign blank , i cannot save it through GUI in ubuntu
[22:03] <blackmatrix_ny> DarwinSurvivor, im not much of a hacker but if there are python apis to extract the password list and using those apis doesnt require root id then any refined hacker can exploit that easily
[22:04] <raidhtc> terafl0ps, my wired router has disabled dhcp. i use static adressing. i tried putting 0.0.0.0 as gateway adress but it didnt work. if i assign blank , i cannot save it through GUI in ubuntu
[22:04] <blackmatrix_ny> DarwinSurvivor, i have read somewhere that you can write files using JS, can you change mod of files using JS too ?
[22:05] <terafl0ps> raidhtc, you should be able to set this up in /etc/network/interfaces
[22:05] <yeats> raidhtc: you still need a gateway address...
[22:05] <raidhtc> terafl0ps,  thanks i will give it a try
[22:05] <terafl0ps> https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/network-configuration.html
[22:06] <DarwinSurvivor> blackmatrix_ny: root has *nothing* to do with it. those passwords are saved in a file that is 100% accessible to the running user (though encrypted). if someone is able to even read the encrypted content, let alone access it while decrypted, they could just as easily hijack your entire web browser and watch all your passwords as you log into websites
[22:06] <yeats> raidhtc: no need for /etc/network/interfaces, just enter the IP of the router as the gateway
[22:06] <terafl0ps> See the section on static configuration.
[22:06] <MattFromJax> DarwinSurvivor: thanks.
[22:06] <terafl0ps>  yeats, I think he wants the LAN to be private and static.
[22:07] <fenrig> Hi i'm looking for a fast system wide proxy switcher (as I use Google chrome) (btw I'm using lucid)
[22:07] <uskerine> hi, very basic question (new into ubuntu distro)... how can I get a console?
[22:07] <DarwinSurvivor> blackmatrix_ny: the newest javascript allows for websites to save *data* on your computer that is then accessible to the same site later (basically a really big cookie). Javascript can NOT access ANY files that were not created by that website, nor can it execute anything outside of the javascript sandbox
[22:07] <DarwinSurvivor> MattFromJax: no problem, the synaptics documentation (and man page) are FULL of different options and features that you can enable for some very cool setups on touchpads
[22:08] <terafl0ps> yeats, His WLAN connection is the only valid route to the Internet.
[22:09] <fenrig> is there a good system wide proxy switcher for ubuntu
[22:09] <DarwinSurvivor> fenrig: open network manager and you should be able to change the proxy. if you find an application that does not respect it, please file a bug report
[22:10] <raidhtc> sadf
[22:10] <uskerine> where is terminal in ubuntu 12 (fresh install in unity)
[22:10] <fenrig> DarwinSurvivor: well I can't use profiles in there :o
[22:10] <DarwinSurvivor> uskerine: Ctrl+Alt+T
[22:10] <blackmatrix_ny> DarwinSurvivor, so the file is encrypted which is a good thing to know. but the gnome-keyring still has apis that can be used through any python scripts running under the user id in plain text format. Why not encrypt those as well and whichever requesting app will know how to decrypt and use the pwd ?
[22:11] <blackmatrix_ny> DarwinSurvivor, btw, what is the filename of the file where the pwds are stored in encrypted format ?
[22:11] <uskerine> oh great, thanks darwinsurvivor
[22:11] <uskerine> :)
[22:12] <DarwinSurvivor> blackmatrix_ny: because A) the whole point of gnome-keyring is so each application doesn't have to use its own encryption and B) once someone can execute a script with your credentials, it's game over anyways!
[22:12] <DarwinSurvivor> blackmatrix_ny: I'd have to look that up
[22:13] <DarwinSurvivor> blackmatrix_ny: hmm, I don't have it installed currently, but I believe it is somewheres in .config/keyring or something like that (still looking)
[22:13] <Boreeas> DarwinSurvivor: Well, not entirely true. If you don't reuse your passwords, someone being able to access the keyring would still hurt
[22:13] <alam> hi guys
[22:14] <euvaldo> !Restricted
[22:14] <alam> hows everyone in here?
[22:14] <alexandr0s> since i upgraded to 12.04 ubuntu. i have this problem>>>> sudo apt-get update >>>>http://pastebin.gr/1843
[22:14] <alexandr0s> open the link
[22:14] <alam> hellow room :D
[22:14] <alam> anyone there..... :/
[22:15] <alexandr0s> please msg me private
[22:15] <alam> wonder if my msgs are going thru
[22:15] <L3top> Do you have a support question alam
[22:15] <Boreeas> alam: Yes, we can see your messages
[22:15] <alam> yes need help
[22:15] <L3top> !details | alam
[22:16] <DarwinSurvivor> Boreeas: it may hurt a *little* more, but once a malicious person/script has gotten your credentials, they can do just about anything including capture your entire firefox session
[22:16] <terafl0ps>  raidhtc: Is that working?
[22:16] <blackmatrix_ny> DarwinSurvivor, yea, you're right...it's really game over on that scenario :-) my lack of JS understanding has really put me under the impression that it can write scripts and execute them
[22:16] <L3top> alexandr0s: Running update a couple of times should fix itself.
[22:17] <DarwinSurvivor> blackmatrix_ny: you can probably write a python interpreter that would allow you to run python scripts, but the python script wouldn't be able to access anything outside of what firefox lets it
[22:17] <alexandr0s> i have tried this many many times
[22:17] <alam> I am running Ubuntu 11.10 and my sound is not working.... it does if i plug my headphones in
[22:17] <alexandr0s> nothing fixed
[22:17] <DarwinSurvivor> alexandr0s: please stay in the channel so that we can make sure the advice you are receiving is both accurate and safe.
[22:17] <Lunar_Lander> hello, why does my software-center download 72 MB of GIMP while the description says "28 MB to download, 52 MB after installation"?
[22:17] <alam> i am a bit lost in all the text on the screen :/ seems very busy in here
[22:17] <blackmatrix_ny> DarwinSurvivor, outside of firefox directory right ? btw what keyring do you use then if you don't use gnome-keyring ?
[22:18] <DarwinSurvivor> Lunar_Lander: please provide a copy of the output that quoted those 3 numbers, they mean nothing out of context
[22:19] <Lunar_Lander> well I went to software center and wanted to download GIMP
[22:19] <DarwinSurvivor> blackmatrix_ny: I don't use one, I have my firefox passwords save in my firefox password manager and everything else in keepassx
[22:19] <terafl0ps> alam:  I had the exact opposite problem.  My headphones didn't work, but my speakers did.  Plugging in headphones cut off my speakers, but no sound came through the headphones...
[22:19] <L3top> alexandr0s: cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.bu; cat /etc/apt/sources.list.bu | sort -u > /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:19] <alam> hummm any ideas on how to fix :/ been trying to read up but new to linux was using windwos till very recent
[22:19] <Lunar_Lander> and on the description page it said that 28 MB had to be downloaded and that the program would occupy about 52 MB after installation, so I clicked "install" and when the download began it said "X of 72 MB have been downloaded"
[22:20] <L3top> alexandr0s: then apt-get update should not have the problem anymore.
[22:20] <alam> got rid of that as i wanted some freedom
[22:20] <DarwinSurvivor> blackmatrix_ny: not the firefox directory, the firefox *sandbox*. the sandbox prevents the JS from even accessing other tabs that are open in firefox
[22:20] <alam> Uploaded my Alsa script report :/
[22:20] <alam> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=5f...e6f1931ce0826f
[22:20] <terafl0ps> alam: I don't know what the root cause is, but I worked around it by running alsamixer from a command line and then muting my master volume, changing my master volume, and then muting and unmuting my headphone volume.
[22:21] <blackmatrix_ny> DarwinSurvivor, gotcha...hey men, you just restored my confidence in ubuntu :-)
[22:21] <L3top> Yes alam, it is busy in here, this is why it is best to limit your communication to a single line, with details of your problem.
[22:22] <DarwinSurvivor> Lunar_Lander: there could be a number of reasons. inaccurate calcuation of dependencies, cache updating, repo updating, etc.
[22:22] <Lunar_Lander> ah thanks!
[22:22] <blackmatrix_ny> DarwinSurvivor, does chrome also operate like that or it allows script execution outside the sandbox
[22:22] <DarwinSurvivor> blackmatrix_ny: glad to hear it. if you have any other questions about firefox's sandbox, check out their irc channel (or forums). they are *very* open about their security practices
[22:23] <terafl0ps> alam:  I have a feeling the same procedure might work for you if you do the same thing only with the speaker channel in alsamixer instead of the headphone channel.
[22:23] <DarwinSurvivor> blackmatrix_ny: I don't know of ANY browsers that allow javascript to execute outside the sandbox. even IE6 had protections there (not perfect mind you)
[22:24] <alam> where and how do i access alsamixer
[22:24] <alam> ?
[22:25] <terafl0ps> alam: Open a terminal by pressing "ctrl+alt+T"
[22:25] <terafl0ps> then type in "alsamixer"
[22:25] <grpace> Greetings all!  I have just tried using the Ubuntu One Cloud Storage.  I uploaded a small text file there as a test, and sent email to share it with a buddy.  However, it seems they could not access the shared folder unless they created their own separate account there.  While they got 5Gb when signing up, free...  They may never use it.  Is this really the way Ubuntu One works ??
[22:25] <alam> cheers
[22:25] <Lady-Tux> hi i want to ask something....why is it that when i clicked my folder instead for the folder that will open it seems my virtualbox is the one that will pop-up what seems to be the problem?
[22:25] <oconnore> blackmatrix_ny: I fail to see where you confidence was restored. The entire keyring should not be available to any process running with user permissions.
[22:25] <L3top> alam this may also be helpful http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1843523
[22:25] <alam> okay now i really feel a bit daft here... but how do i change settings?
[22:26] <blackmatrix_ny> DarwinSurvivor, will most definetly check out the firefox channel...I have some questions about JS capabilities on the browser
[22:26] <terafl0ps> alam: The right and left arrows move you from channel to channel.
[22:26] <L3top> alam arrow keys left and right, up and down, M is mute/unmute... f6 will change adapters if you have more than one.
[22:26] <terafl0ps> Up and down increase or decrease volume.
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[22:27] <alam> okay will try :D get back in a bit to let you know
[22:27] <alam> Thanks
[22:27] <L3top> sorry use sudo for both operations alexandr0s
[22:27] <mkquist> possible to install gimp 2.8 on 11.04?
[22:27] <blackmatrix_ny> oconnore, Im relieved that I wouldn't get a malicious attacker from a browser to be able to run those gnome-keyring apis
[22:27] <uskerine> hi, how could I create an account type where I can define what what icons are shown (hence which applications can the user actually use)?
[22:27] <L3top> sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.bu; sudo cat /etc/apt/sources.list.bu | sort -u > /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:27] <L3top> alexandr0s: ^
[22:28] <DarwinSurvivor> uskerine: what is the use-case?
[22:28] <oconnore> blackmatrix_ny: yeah *that* would terrible, but still, someone that walks up to my laptop with a program on a usb key should not be able to dump all my passwords. A decent alternative would be to run the keyring/config as root, and only submit keyring entries to approved applications.
[22:28] <bastidrazor> gt5tr8u5~4e6z5 ~~c5d4T
[22:29] <Lady-Tux> anyone?
[22:29] <uskerine> DarwinSurvivor, I want to setup a generic account for users accesing a server through thin-clients in office environment, hence i would like to avoid them installing anything or changing configuration, configuring email or messanging other than a pre-configured one by the admin
[22:29] <DarwinSurvivor> oconnore: so you have no problem with them being able to download all your e-mails, copy your tax returns and steal your browser history with that USB drive?
[22:29] <uskerine> DarwinSurvivor: I basically want them to use libreoffice & firefox and a VoIP client
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[22:30] <L3top> Lady-Tux: I do not follow your question. Can you restate it? what is "my folder"
[22:30] <blackmatrix_ny> oconnore, true but If a person has that intention and ability to run a script then even if you encrypt your passwords then they can install a backdoor or keylogger or much more stuffs to get your information...
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[22:30] <DarwinSurvivor> escott: you could always just uninstall everything else, but nothing really stops them from running stuff of a usb drive. basically: is this a usability or security issue?
[22:30] <Lady-Tux> any folder when i clicked it instead of the folder that will display it seems virtualbox will be the open that'll be opened
[22:30] <oconnore> DarwinSurvivor: that is less bad than all active passwords, yes.
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[22:31] <L3top> alexandr0s: type sudo -s and just run the first one again. cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.bu; cat /etc/apt/sources.list.bu | sort -u > /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:31] <L3top> then exit
[22:31] <alam> hi again ... seems i am still stuck :/
[22:32] <Lady-Tux> any folder when i clicked it instead of the folder that will display it seems virtualbox will be the open that'll be opened  L3top
[22:32] <DarwinSurvivor> oconnore: even ssh keys (possibly the most important thing on your computer) are stored in clear text and readable by any application with your credentials
[22:32] <alam> doesnt seem to have made any difference - the settings were all on but i still muted them and refreshed and started them again
[22:32] <blackmatrix_ny> DarwinSurvivor, btw, did you mean that you were going to look into the idea that passwords using the gnome-keyring api will only be available to the application that stored the password only ?
[22:32] <DarwinSurvivor> oconnore: basically: Don't run software you don't trust. if you REALLY must, use a virtual machine or guest-session to do it!
[22:32] <oconnore> DarwinSurvivor: for example, they would not be able to read my gpg encrypted emails, or my gpg encrypted tax returns
[22:33] <oconnore> DarwinSurvivor: if my passphrase is compromised, all of that data is exposed.
[22:33] <DarwinSurvivor> oconnore: who is "they"?
[22:33] <oconnore> DarwinSurvivor: this person who walked up and ran the python script
[22:33] <terafl0ps> alam:  Did you try changing the master volume, muting the headphones, muting the speaker, changing the master volume again, and unmuting the speaker?
[22:33] <L3top> "will be the open that'll be opened" is just not clear Lady-Tux. I am sorry if there is a language barrier... are you saying any folder you attempt to open somehow opens virtual box, or that you are in virtualbox and... something else is happening?
[22:33] <DarwinSurvivor> oconnore: that's why you don't leave your computer unattended!
[22:33] <DarwinSurvivor> oconnore: or at the *very* least, lock the screen when you walk away
[22:34] <alam> terafl0ps: yup... muted and unmuted them all
[22:34] <grpace> C'mon folks...  Just a simple question about Ubuntu One Cloud Storage???  No one willing to help ??
[22:34] <oconnore> DarwinSurvivor: that's not the point, it's a retarded program design
[22:34] <L3top> !patience | grpace
[22:34] <DarwinSurvivor> oconnore: I don't understand why you are so upset about the keyring, but don't care about any of the OTHER stuff they have access to!
[22:34] <oconnore> DarwinSurvivor: why expose my passwords when it's not necessary?
[22:34] <oconnore> DarwinSurvivor: because anything I actually care about is encrypted with gpg
[22:34] <Lady-Tux> that's it sorry for the typo i'm a bit sleepy ..... when i open my folder somehow vbox app will open
[22:34] <oconnore> DarwinSurvivor: as long as the passphrase is secret, nothing else matters
[22:34] <grpace> Thank you, ubottu.
[22:35] <DarwinSurvivor> oconnore: and do you use a separate gpg key for every applications files?
[22:35] <alam> terafl0ps:
[22:35] <DarwinSurvivor> oconnore: and how are you decrypting these files? if you use an ecryptfs-style setup, as soon as the encrypted files are mounted, they are visible anyways
[22:35] <alam> whoops...
[22:35] <oconnore> DarwinSurvivor: what are you talking about? the gpg program...
[22:35] <terafl0ps> alam:  I'm not sure then.  There have been a fair number of problems with audio in this release.
[22:35] <L3top> Where are you clicking this folder from Lady-Tux, and what version of ubuntu are you on, and which Desktop Environment?
[22:36] <oconnore> DarwinSurvivor: in a memory mounted tmpfs
[22:36] <oconnore> which i unmount before i leave
[22:36] <VOA> test
[22:36] <alam> terafl0ps: okay... no worries :)) thanks for your help
[22:36] <DarwinSurvivor> oconnore: yes, and those memory-mounted tmpfs's are visible just like any outher mounted partition, so if any application has the tmpfs mounted, all the others can see the contents anyways
[22:37] <oconnore> DarwinSurvivor: for that short period of time, yes. I fail to see what your point is.
[22:37] <Lady-Tux> at my panel next to Applications....and that is Places >  "ladytux folder" when i click it vbox app will open....i got ubuntu 10.04 lts
[22:37] <blackmatrix_ny> DarwinSurvivor, is it possible to make the key-ring provide password only to the application that saved it ?
[22:37] <DarwinSurvivor> if your security practice is to unmount your gpg tmpfs when you leave, then either lock your gnome-keyring as well or just lock the login session
[22:37] <oconnore> DarwinSurvivor: it's the difference between exposing short peices of information vs. exposing everything I have ever encrypted.
[22:38] <DarwinSurvivor> blackmatrix_ny: not that I know of, how would it authenticate an application anyways?
[22:38] <ascend716> i upgraded and am screwed now i cant get pass 640X 480 even on the off chance i am lucky enough to boot to last working version
[22:38] <ascend716>  i have no cd roms and cannot boot through usb
[22:38] <oconnore> *pieces
[22:38] <DarwinSurvivor> ascend716: how did you perform the initial installation?
[22:39] <ascend716> ANYWAY toi go back to 10.10 the last version that worked
[22:39] <Lady-Tux> at my panel next to Applications....and that is Places >  "ladytux folder" when i click it vbox app will open....i got ubuntu 10.04 lts L3top
[22:39] <uskerine> DarwinSurvivor, any recommended web site or faq to customize user accounts to limit their usage to the minimum (libreoffice & firefox)
[22:39] <uskerine> ?
[22:39] <blackmatrix_ny> DarwinSurvivor, there must be a way for the creating app to have the private key. And the public key and encrypted password would be stored in the keyring. So only that app can decrypt that password
[22:39] <ascend716> i did through the update center
[22:39] <L3top> Lady-Tux: can you right click the folder and look through the properties for a possible answer?
[22:39] <ascend716> upgraded to 11.04 and then 11.10
[22:39] <blackmatrix_ny> DarwinSurvivor, or some similar mechanism like that
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[22:40] <DarwinSurvivor> blackmatrix_ny: then you need a way for the application to store a public/private key that the other applications can't get to and you are back to square 1
[22:40] <ascend716> the initial install was done when my cd drive still worked
[22:40] <ejo> Is there a way to open an additional instance of a GUI program (in this case, my database administration tool)?  Normally clicking on it in the launcher opens a maximum of one instance.
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[22:40] <DarwinSurvivor> uskerine: is this a usability (make it simply for the user) request, or a security (they MUST NOT run those applications) request?
[22:40] <ejo> Would it be specific to each program?  I'm working with pgadmin3 for postgresql on ubuntu 12.04.
[22:40] <Nogal> Hello everyone; I've got a few issues, fairly newbie, that I was wondering if I could get some help with.
[22:40] <blackmatrix_ny> DarwinSurvivor, right...
[22:40] <DarwinSurvivor> ejo: try middle-clicking
[22:40] <oconnore> DarwinSurvivor: there has to be a way to limit arbitrary program access to the full keyring...
[22:40] <oconnore> I don't know why you can't see the value of that
[22:40] <L3top> alexandr0s: Please pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:41] <uskerine> it is a combination of usability and security (to avoid them play with the system and hence reducing the overhead of mantaining the server). it will be a single server for 10 users
[22:41] <ejo> DarwinSurvivor: thank you!  I don't have a middle button configured on my mouse
[22:41] <ascend716> is there anyway to mount and iso and get it to reinstall old version?
[22:41] <DarwinSurvivor> oconnore: what you are asking for is per-application sandboxing. outside of cellphones, this isn't done on ANY operating system
[22:41] <blackmatrix_ny> oconnore, but how would you go about that...im still thinking of ways
[22:41] <CaptObvious> hey guys, I installed the official ATI graphics drivers on ubuntu server by using apt-get install fglrxinfo fglrx-amdcccle and then rebooted, but fglrxinfo is giving me "Error: unable to open display (null)" - any ideas?
[22:41] <oconnore> DarwinSurvivor: no i'm not. I'm asking for per application keyring limits.
[22:41] <DarwinSurvivor> ejo: try clicking the left and right at the same time, it should emulate a middle mouse click
[22:41] <ascend716> the only displays that ever worked for me were in 8.04 and 10.10
[22:41] <ejo> CaptObvious: if you can get by without fglrx, just skip it!
[22:42] <ejo> CaptObvious: especially on a server OS install you won't need 3D acceleration...
[22:42] <ascend716> i have partial use in 11.10
[22:42] <Nogal> Does anyone know how to take the wireless that my router is recieving and to connect another PC via lan to my ubuntu laptop to give said pc a bridge to the wireless?
[22:42] <CaptObvious> I can't, otherwise I could
[22:42] <CaptObvious> yes, I will
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[22:42] <mkquist> anyone know if gimp 2.8 can be compiled for 11.04?
[22:42] <CaptObvious> I wouldn't be asking if I didn't need it
[22:42] <Lady-Tux> L3top, same i can't do a right click on it ..... it still open vbox application if i do it
[22:42] <DarwinSurvivor> mkquist: doubtful (at least easily), it probably needs a lot of updated libraries. probably easier just to upgrade to 12.04
[22:43] <blackmatrix_ny> DarwinSurvivor, does firefox or keypassx save the pwds in similar fashion like gnome-keyring ?
[22:44] <L3top> Lady-Tux: can you navigate to this folder in command line?
[22:44] <Cerin> I'm running 12.04 on a macbook. Gnome-shell crashed, making the UI unusable, so I did a hard reboot and now it looks like my machine is unbootable. Selecting the recovery kernel from the grub menu ends with the message "edd informatino not available". Please, can someone help me recover my machine?
[22:44] <Lady-Tux> L3top, how?
[22:44] <DarwinSurvivor> oconnore: unless someone can come up with a way to positively identify an application, isolating passwords per-application isn't going to be possible without the user supplying a separate password for each one
[22:44] <L3top> one moment Lady-Tux
[22:44] <yooha> hello guys
[22:44] <Nogal> anyone know how to bridge a wireless to wired connnection in ubuntu?
[22:45] <blackmatrix_ny> Cerin, booting from usb ?
[22:45] <yooha> when i type some site its takes me to localhost any idea how to fix this
[22:45] <DarwinSurvivor> uskerine: and why can't you simply remove the applications?
[22:45] <Cerin> blackmatrix_ny: no, just the hdd
[22:46] <blackmatrix_ny> Cerin, try booting from a ubuntu usb
[22:46] <blackmatrix_ny> Cerin, maybe some files corrupted in hdd
[22:46] <CaptObvious> no ideas on "Error: unable to open display (null)"?
[22:46] <stars69> hi what is the package name for flash anyone?
[22:46] <terafl0ps> Nogal, take a look at http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man5/bridge-utils-interfaces.5.html
[22:46] <LordOfTime> !flash | stars69
[22:47] <stars69> LordOfTime, thanks
[22:47] <yooha> guys any one knows why when i type some site in the bar adress its takes me to localhost ??
[22:47] <DarwinSurvivor> yooha: what IP address do you see if you run "ping google.com" in the terminal?
[22:48] <Nogal> terafl0ps: thank you
[22:48] <terafl0ps> You're welcome.
[22:48] <oconnore> DarwinSurvivor: pathname would be better than nothing. the user can't install to /usr/bin, and most application permissions will be to /usr/bin/whatever.
[22:49] <ejo> DarwinSurvivor: Thanks again -- no result from the "both buttons click".  Maybe I should pursue the mouse click emulation first?  Is it the default of the 12.04 launcher to open additional application instances on middle-click?
[22:49] <yooha> DarwinSurvivor: this PING google.com (74.125.79.138) 56(84) bytes of data.
[22:49] <uskerine> DarwinSurvivor, can "dashHome" be removed?
[22:50] <DarwinSurvivor> ejo: it should be. there may also be a right-click menu option to open another instance (I don't have my 12.04 machine in front of me)
[22:50] <yooha> DarwinSurvivor : this PING google.com (74.125.79.138) 56(84) bytes of data.
[22:51] <DarwinSurvivor> yooha: ok, now if you run "wget google.com; firefox index.html" what do you see?
[22:51] <Nogal> terafl0ps: sorry lost connection before i even started lol
[22:52] <DarwinSurvivor> uskerine: possibly, but there wouldn't be much left of unity if you did.
[22:52] <yooha> DarwinSurvivor :  this --2012-05-20 22:51:57--  http://google.com/
[22:52] <yooha> Résolution de google.com... 74.125.79.139, 74.125.79.101, 74.125.79.100, ...
[22:53] <DarwinSurvivor> yooha: something should have opened in firefox, what did it look like?
[22:53] <Nogal> terafl0ps: can you help explain this link to me?
[22:53] <yooha> yeh in chromuim its the page i jsut downloaded
[22:53] <DarwinSurvivor> uskerine: are these workstations that the same person will be using over and over?
[22:54] <uskerine> DarwinSurvivor, I want an interface as simple as possible, office icons, firefox icon, and home documents icon. I hope that it would be easier to use for the users
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[22:54] <ejo> DarwinSurvivor: If the launcher's right-click menu for this particular app doesn't contain any option for opening an additional instance, is that then just something the app itself doesn't offer?  If that's likely then maybe I won't overly trouble myself over this.
[22:54] <DarwinSurvivor> uskerine: you could always just put those launcher in the launcher bar (and take out the others) and tell them to just launch stuff from there.
[22:54] <DarwinSurvivor> ejo: which application?
[22:55] <terafl0ps> Nogal: It is describing how you would bridge two interfaces in your /etc/network/interfaces file.  The example config makes a bridge out of all available interfaces on the machine.
[22:55] <ejo> DarwinSurvivor: pgadmin3 -- it's the GUI admin client for postgreSQL.
[22:55] <terafl0ps> You can think of a network switch as a multiport bridge.
[22:55] <ejo> DarwinSurvivor: naturally I asked in #postgresql but they're not too big on the GUI client ;)
[22:55] <DarwinSurvivor> ejo: hmm, never used it. try it with firefox, if you get firefox to do it but not your tool, then it may be the tool
[22:56] <Nogal> I tried adding the "auto br0" code to my /etc/network/intferfaces
[22:56] <Nogal> however when I tried sudo ifup br0 it told me that it cannot find the device
[22:56] <ejo> DarwinSurvivor: yes, Firefox offers an "open a new window" option -- that's one of the data points that made me think that offering that option or not is on a per-application basis in Ubuntu
[22:56] <terafl0ps> A bridge passes frames from one interface to the other if the destination MAC address lies on the opposite side of the bridge, otherwise it doesn't let the frame across.
[22:57] <DarwinSurvivor> ejo: then it could very well be an application limitation. try contacting the developer of the GUI
[22:57] <ejo> DarwinSurvivor: and of course the default Terminal application does as well, that was my other hint
[22:57] <adrian_2E0SDR> I have removed LXDE & Openbox, but there are still bits left behind, plus they still show in the Desktop selection, how can i remove all traces of them?
[22:57] <Nogal> terafl0ps: that was a bit over my head...
[22:57] <ejo> DarwinSurvivor: yes, thanks again.  That's it for now!
[22:58] <DarwinSurvivor> ejo: no problem
[22:58] <yooha> DarwinSurvivor:  whats next ?? ; ]
[22:58] <terafl0ps> Nogal: br0 probably doesn't exist yet.
[22:59] <terafl0ps> br0 is the name of the bridge interface.
[22:59] <Nogal> how do i make it exist?
[22:59] <terafl0ps> You would need to do "brctl addbr br0" first.
[22:59] <DarwinSurvivor> yooha: when you see localhost, does the address bar change to localhost?
[22:59] <DarwinSurvivor> yooha: or just the page content?
[22:59] <yooha> DarwinSurvivor: noo
[22:59] <yooha> DarwinSurvivor: just page content
[23:00] <Nogal> thank you -- getting the package now
[23:00] <DarwinSurvivor> yooha: how do you know it's localhost? do you have a webserver running or something like that?
[23:00] <Cerin> blackmatrix_ny: even the live cd seems to be locking up. I've tried the "recover a broken system" and nothing happened for 10 minutes
[23:00] <yooha> DarwinSurvivor: yeh apache
[23:00] <terafl0ps> Nogal: this is kind of an advanced setup.  You might want to read through http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/networking/bridge before diving right in.
[23:00] <yooha> buti rember i removed it i guess DarwinSurvivor
[23:01] <DarwinSurvivor> yooha: could you provide a screenshot by any chance?
[23:01] <yooha> DarwinSurvivor: i still have it
[23:01] <yooha> DarwinSurvivor: sure hang on
[23:02] <Cerin> blackmatrix_ny: and now I can't even get the CD out because grub doesn't support the eject button
[23:03] <blackmatrix_ny> Cerin, don't you have a USB ?
[23:04] <scar3crow> I have lost rear audio after installing ampache and lamp stack... what did I do wrong pls?
[23:04] <Cerin> blackmatrix_ny: macbooks don't work with ubuntu live usbs
[23:04] <Cerin> blackmatrix_ny: something about them using efi, whereas the live usbs expect something else
[23:04] <blackmatrix_ny> Cerin, I'm not sure how to go about debugging your grub then...maybe other folks who know well about it might help...sorry mate
[23:05] <ejo> DarwinSurvivor: I overlooked the obvious! ahaha.  /usr/bin/pgadmin3 launches an additional instance without complaint or error.
[23:05] <DarwinSurvivor> ejo: well, there you go then :)
[23:06] <LinTux> anybody here using GNURADIO
[23:06] <DarwinSurvivor> ejo: actually, if running the command again works, then turning on middle-mouse-button-emulation will probably work!
[23:06] <Cerin> I'm running 12.04 on a macbook. Gnome-shell crashed, making the UI unusable, so I did a hard reboot and now it looks like my machine is unbootable. Selecting the recovery kernel from the grub menu ends with the message "edd information not available". Please, can someone help me recover my machine?
[23:06] <DarwinSurvivor> ejo: I think the "second window" and "second terminal" items in firefox & terminal are ADDED by the applications.
[23:07] <L3top> alexandr0s: You do not have duplicate sources as near as I can tell. You should not receive an error after apt-get update
 but the problem remains,
[23:09] <OerHeks> L3top, i see 1 line without gr. >> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-security universe multiverse main restricted
[23:09] <yooha> DarwinSurvivor: i sent u it pls accept it
[23:09] <Nogal> terafl0ps: thank you, the document let me know that it is not currently supported for wireless. unfortunately this is something windows does do out of the box...
[23:10] <DarwinSurvivor> yooha: sent me it?
[23:10] <terafl0ps> Nogal, what are you trying to ultimately accomplish?
[23:10] <L3top> alexandr0s: can you please post the line which says it is duplicated?
 what is happening can you please explain???
[23:10] <yooha> DarwinSurvivor the screen capture
yes
[23:10] <Nogal> terafl0ps: ultimately i'm trying to repair another laptop. i think i'm just going to reformat ext4 and start over though.
[23:10] <L3top> It appears that because you have a gr and a non gr link, it shows as duplication as OerHeks suggests.
[23:11] <DarwinSurvivor> yooha: please use http://imagebin.org/?page=add
[23:11] <Nogal> i installed 12.04 on it last night and everything is sluggish as hell, unity keeps crashing
[23:11] <Nogal> was trying to bridge a connection to at least get it online as the wireless card is missing firmware
[23:11] <terafl0ps> Nogal: but are you trying to share Internet connectivity from one interface to another?
Fetched 95,6 kB in 9s (10,1 kB/s)
[23:11] <alexandr0s> Reading package lists... Done
[23:11] <alexandr0s> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://gr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise/multiverse i386 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/gr.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_precise_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages)
[23:11] <alexandr0s> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://gr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise/restricted i386 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/gr.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_precise_restricted_binary-i386_Packages)
[23:11] <alexandr0s> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[23:12] <OerHeks> L3top, alexandr0s yes, delete or # the line without gr.
[23:12] <Nogal> I am, purely to get the 2nd laptop's wireless cards firmware
[23:12] <ejo> DarwinSurvivor: I see, thanks
[23:12] <DarwinSurvivor> !paste | alexandr0s
[23:12] <terafl0ps> Nogal: So you have one machine with a working wireless ethernet connection to the Internet, and you want to make that Internet connection available to a second machine through a wired link?
 ok??? can you read this?
[23:13] <Nogal> yes
 ok??? can you read the lines
[23:13] <L3top> alexandr0s: type sudo -s and then: cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.bu; cat /etc/apt/sources.list.bu | grep 'gr.arch' > /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:13] <terafl0ps> Nogal: Ok.  We can do that without bridging.
[23:14] <L3top> that is probably easier than walking you through editing as root
[23:15] <Nogal> I'm interested in hearing more...
 ok
 then?? apt-get update as root??
[23:15] <terafl0ps> Nogal: http://paste.ubuntu.com/998190/
 or exit from root and then sudo apt-get update
[23:16] <terafl0ps> Nogal:  I wrote that script earlier to do just that. :)
[23:16] <L3top> apt-get update as root
[23:16] <L3top> alexandr0s: ^
[23:16] <Nogal> terafl0ps I'm a n00b, do I run that in my terminal?
 what ^ means
[23:16] <alexandr0s> ?
[23:16] <Cerin> I'm running 12.04 on a macbook. Gnome-shell crashed, making the UI unusable, so I did a hard reboot and now it looks like my machine is unbootable. Selecting the recovery kernel from the grub menu ends with the message "edd information not available". Please, can someone help me recover my machine?
[23:17] <L3top> It means look up as I forgot to type alexandr0s.
[23:17] <Nogal> i really appreciate this by the way
[23:17] <alexandr0s> ok
[23:17] <terafl0ps> Nogal:  Yes, but you may need to make some changes depending on the configuration of your Ubuntu machine with the wireless connection.
[23:17] <yooha> DarwinSurvivor:  here you go http://imagebin.org/213182
[23:17] <terafl0ps> Nogal: It assumes your wireless card is wlan0
[23:17] <terafl0ps> and your wired card is eth0
 nothing changed
[23:18] <Nogal> my wireless is wlan0 and my lan port is eth0
[23:18] <Jirayabetter> hi all
[23:18] <Jirayabetter> i've to abilitaty the 3d acceleration on an integrated chipset
[23:18] <terafl0ps> Nogal: It also sets your wired interface to have an IP of 10.1.1.1.
[23:18] <DarwinSurvivor> yooha: and that happens in *all* your browsers?
[23:19] <terafl0ps> Nogal: So you could give your second machine an IP address of 10.1.1.2.
[23:19] <terafl0ps> and point the second machine to 10.1.1.1 as its default gateway
[23:19] <Jirayabetter> the version is intel GM 965
[23:19] <Nogal> terafl0ps: http://paste.ubuntu.com/998196/
[23:19] <yooha> DarwinSurvivor:  you got it ?
[23:20] <Jirayabetter> can somebody help?
[23:20] <DarwinSurvivor> yooha: yes, I got the link. does it do that in ALL your browsers?
[23:20] <MestreLion> guys... I'm having a problem with Aisleriot (Solitaire) and the launcher...
[23:21] <terafl0ps> Nogal:  Ah.  When I ran the script I did it as root.  You need to put a "sudo" in front of all of those commands.
[23:21] <Jirayabetter> my question was ignored?
[23:21] <MestreLion> guys... I'm having a problem with Aisleriot (Solitaire) and the launcher... if I pin it to the launcher, it stops identifying windows... i can launch, but I cannot list or control its windows... is this a known issue?
[23:21] <Jirayabetter> \connect
[23:21] <escott> !ask | Jirayabetter
[23:22] <yooha> DarwinSurvivor:  not all some sites
[23:22] <Jirayabetter> ok. i've to abilitaty the 3d acceleration on an integrated chipset. the version is intel GM 965
[23:22] <yooha> DarwinSurvivor:  and this one included
[23:22] <DarwinSurvivor> yooha: ok, but what about other *browsers* (firefox, etc)?
[23:23] <Cerin> blackmatrix_ny: I finally got it to boot the live cd. what do I do now that I
[23:23] <yooha> DarwinSurvivor: i have only chromuim and i rember the FF does that too tho
[23:23] <escott> Jirayabetter, abilitaty??
[23:23] <MestreLion> So far it it only happend to Aisleriot. And worse: if I unpin it while some instances are running, the windows get completely lost (not in the launcher at all, or in ATL+TAB), if I minimuze them they just disappear
[23:23] <Jirayabetter> sry enable
[23:23] <DarwinSurvivor> yooha: can you pastebin your /etc/hosts file?
[23:24] <escott> Jirayabetter, you don't need to do anything to enable acceleration on intel chipsets
[23:24] <Jirayabetter> but i've installed playonlinux and he said the 3d acceleration is not enables
[23:24] <Cerin> blackmatrix_ny: *I'm in? I've entered rescue mode, and I can load a shell, reinstaller, reinstall grub, etc
[23:24] <Jirayabetter> enabled
[23:25] <Nogal> terafl0ps: sorry my connection crashed there, I figured out "sudo su" for this one
[23:25] <terafl0ps> Nogal: Did all of those commands run successfully on the connected machine?
[23:25] <Nogal> yes
[23:25] <LinuX2half> how do you shut down the computer? I'm running Ubuntu 12.04, it seems there's no option for it.
[23:25] <escott> Jirayabetter, intel GMA is a very poor 3d chipset
[23:25] <terafl0ps> Great.
[23:26] <Nogal> linux2half: top right gear, click it for a menu
[23:26] <Jirayabetter> so i can try to ignore it and install the game?
[23:26] <terafl0ps> Nogal: Now give the second machine an IP of 10.1.1.2 with a subnet mask of 255.255.255.0.
[23:26] <LinuX2half> Nogal: All I see is two accounts
[23:26] <yooha> DarwinSurvivor:  ok
[23:26] <L3top> alexandr0s: please pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list again. Keeping in mind, that this message is harmless... and nothing bad will happen to your system, perhaps we can figure out why it sees duplicates.
[23:26] <Jirayabetter> world of warcraft runned successfully on that machone
[23:26] <Nogal> there should be a gear next to the accounts
[23:27] <LinuX2half> Nogal: User accounts, Switch user, no shutdown option
[23:27] <Nogal> ok teraflops do I do that through etc/network/interfaces?
[23:27] <DarwinSurvivor> yooha: if you are having difficulties getting files onto pastebin, use pastebinit
[23:27] <DarwinSurvivor> !pastebinit | yooha
[23:27] <Nogal> linux2half try running an update to see if for some reason it's missing
[23:27] <DarwinSurvivor> yooha: intall that, then just run "pastebinit /etc/hosts"
[23:28] <yooha> DarwinSurvivor:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/998205/
[23:28] <Cerin> blackmatrix_ny: thanks, I'm not sure how, but that fixed it
[23:28] <LinuX2half> Nogal: nope, I run the command apt-get update but it didn't detect anything wrong or install anything.
[23:28] <terafl0ps> Nogal:  The default gateway for the second machine should be 10.1.1.1, and you'll have to Go into it's /etc/resolv.conf and point it to a valid DNS server so it can resolve I hostnames.
[23:29] <DarwinSurvivor> yooha: hmm, that looks normal
 http://pastebin.gr/1845
[23:29] <DarwinSurvivor> yooha: can you run "traceroute google.com"?
[23:30] <kuranta> hey, I'm having trouoble after trying to update to precise
[23:30] <kuranta> can anyone help?
[23:30] <Nogal> terafl0ps: it tells me "do not edit this by hand -- changes will be overwritten."
[23:30] <LordOfTime> !details | kuranta
[23:31] <terafl0ps> Nogal:  network manager overwrites it if you change settings there, but since this is a temporary configuration for troubleshooting the second machine anyway, you can safely ignore it. :)
[23:31] <kuranta> Sorry! The update was going fine until it asked me to restart. When I did so, my mouse and keyboard weren't working properly, no icons were visible, and the background to my desktop was solid blue
[23:31] <yooha> DarwinSurvivor:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/998210/
[23:31] <Nogal> ok... what changes do i make?
[23:32] <terafl0ps> Nogal: is there a nameserver listed?
[23:32] <DarwinSurvivor> yooha: ok, is "google.com" one of the addresse that works or doesn't work in chromium?
[23:32] <yooha> DarwinSurvivor:  it does work
[23:33] <kuranta> I tried booting from an old kernel, and the mouse worked but now absolutely nothing was working once I logged in.
[23:33] <DarwinSurvivor> yooha: oops. can you try traceroute with one that doesn't work :P
[23:33] <yooha> ok
[23:33] <Nogal> terafl0ps: http://paste.ubuntu.com/998211/
[23:34] <Nogal> that's all that is in resolv.conf
[23:34] <kuranta> anyone?
[23:34] <terafl0ps> Nogal: add a line that reads "nameserver 208.67.222.222"
[23:35] <adio> I'm having troubles with ubuntu over heating on LTS over heating on my laptop, i've cleaned it out all the fans work, I
[23:35] <terafl0ps> That's an OpenDNS name server.
[23:35] <yooha> DarwinSurvivor:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/998213/
[23:35] <adio> god i can't type today
[23:35] <escott> !info powertop | adio
[23:35] <DarwinSurvivor> yooha: do you know what dns server you are using? if not, please pastebin the contents of /etc/resolv.conf
[23:35] <indian> any one using virtualbox 4.1.14 and tried 3d acceleration
[23:36] <terafl0ps> indian: I have.
[23:36] <indian> terafl0ps, I am getting crash or lag when I try to play any video
[23:36] <goddard> can I get some help with this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1817164
[23:36] <nydel> help please: i'm having trouble getting my remote to work with VLC in ubuntu
[23:36] <terafl0ps> indian: What guest OS?
[23:37] <yooha> DarwinSurvivor:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/998216/
[23:37] <DarwinSurvivor> yooha: ok, who is your internet service provider?
[23:37] <kuranta> anyone want to help? my computer is just totally borked after attempting to update to 12.04
[23:37] <indian> terafl0ps, windows 7 and windows xp
[23:37] <nydel> goddard: i doubt i can help but i'm taking a look
[23:37] <yooha> DarwinSurvivor:  im from morroco and im using my phone as a modem
[23:38] <nydel> kuranta: tell me the problem
[23:38] <DarwinSurvivor> yooha: OH, that would have been good to know to start with. do those websites open properly on your phone?
[23:38] <Daedalus_> Hi all. I have one quick noob question and I'm done if anyone is able to help.
[23:38] <indian> terafl0ps, what guest are you using?
[23:39] <yooha> DarwinSurvivor: if i change my server dns fo eg to google ones it ll get overided
[23:39] <kuranta> nydel: once I restarted after the update, the mouse and keyboard were no longer working properly, all icons were invisible or just white boxes with red x's, and the desktop background was solid blue.
[23:39] <terafl0ps> Indian: same as you Windows 7 and XP on an Ubuntu 12.04 host.
[23:39] <yooha> DarwinSurvivor:  noo lately adf.ly it doesnt but i dont see why tho
[23:39] <indian> terafl0ps, do you have video playback with 3d acceleration enbaled
[23:39] <Daedalus_> I'm using the windows installer. It askes about installation size, is this in reference to free space it will allocate for ubuntu or is in reference to a larger install package?
[23:39] <L3top> alexandr0s: please type gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and place a #  at the beginning of line 3, and save the file, and run update again.
[23:40] <Nogal> back... crashed my connection again
[23:40] <DarwinSurvivor> yooha: my guess is your cellphone provider is blocking it. set your dns a 3rd party one and it will probably start working
[23:40] <terafl0ps> Indian: I haven't done a lot with it, but I noticed DirectX stuff was really laggy in that configuration.
[23:40] <kuranta> nydel: I tried booting from an old kernel, and it solved some of the problems but made others worse
[23:40] <Nogal> i think i'm going to give up on this and just leave windowsXP on the other laptop
[23:40] <yooha> DarwinSurvivor:  and how can i do that ??
[23:41] <terafl0ps> Indian:  What setting are you thinking of for video playback?
[23:41] <Nogal> i'll give it 1 more fresh install but after that i'll just expand NTFS
[23:41] <indian> terafl0ps, I got some CBT's that I can only play in windows
 #deb http://gr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise restricted multiverse (LIKE THIS)
[23:42] <indian> I have 570m card I enbaled 3d accelration and gave 128 to 256mb video memory
[23:42] <L3top> correct alexandr0s
[23:42] <DarwinSurvivor> yooha: open network manager, go to your connection and change the DNS settings to manual and use "8.8.8.8" (google's dns)
[23:42] <indian> still it crashes when playing any video
[23:42] <yooha> DarwinSurvivor: i have only the command line version no GUI
[23:43] <DarwinSurvivor> yooha: alternatively, you could try changing the DNS server on your phone (since your laptop is using the phone's DNS), but it's probably locked
[23:43] <terafl0ps> Indian:  Does virtualbox itself crash?
[23:43] <goddard> nydel: thanks pal
[23:43] <L3top> goddard: that seems to have a solution in it... what issue are you still having?
[23:43] <DarwinSurvivor> yooha: what tool do you use for connecting to the phone?
[23:43] <indian> terafl0ps, nope just vlc
[23:43] <goddard> L3top: it does?
[23:43] <yooha> wired theter DarwinSurvivor
[23:43] <kuranta> anyone, help? I don't even know where to start on fixing this. Broken mouse and keyboard and blue background after updating to 12.04. Booting to old kernel doesn't help much
[23:44] <skx> hey, after the upgrade to 12.04 something weird happened to grub and it doesn't boot the newest kernel by default but the older one (from 11.10), how do I fix it?
[23:44] <goddard> L3top: i plug the drive in and it doesn't show up in a USB 3.0 slot
wait for pastebin the result ok??
[23:44] <DarwinSurvivor> yooha: no, which *ubuntu* tool are you using (wicd-curses, ifconfig, etc)?
[23:44] <esmirlin> hey guys do you know how to get multitouch gestures in precise?
[23:44] <goddard> L3top: it works perfectly in a USB 2.0 slot
[23:44] <terafl0ps> Indian:  I can't help there really because I don't normally run VLC in Windows in VB.
[23:44] <skx> hey, after the upgrade to 12.04 something weird happened to grub and it doesn't boot the newest kernel by default but the older one (from 11.10), how do I fix it? the new grub configuration is seriously complicated
[23:45] <L3top> goddard: does lsusb see it? the 3.0?
[23:45] <terafl0ps> Nogal: When you say you crashed your connection, what happened?
http://pastebin.gr/1846
[23:45] <L3top> the solution there goddard is to edit grub w GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash pci=nomsi"
[23:45] <yooha> DarwinSurvivor: i didnt get ur question but i use network manager without GUI
[23:45] <indian> terafl0ps, I tried with WMP and it lags after few seconds and finally gets stuck
[23:45] <Nogal> terafl0ps: while I had the two laptops connected via lan cable it kept breaking my wireless connection
[23:45] <L3top> well there you go alexandr0s.
[23:46] <DarwinSurvivor> yooha: cnetworkmanager?
[23:46] <zybaldo> algum brasileiro por aqui?
[23:46] <kuranta> help!anyone, help? Nonfunctioning mouse and keyboard and blue background after updating to 12.04. Booting to old kernel doesn't help much (although there at least I can get to the command line)
[23:46] <indian> terafl0ps, but I can play without 3d acceleration but then I read with 3d the playback taxing on CPU will be less
now let's see if the update manager works properly
[23:46] <DarwinSurvivor> yooha: basically, can you paste the command you use to connect to the phone?
[23:46] <L3top> !br | zybaldo
[23:46] <Nogal> I'm just going to reinstall 12.04 with a fresh disk on the other laptop with it connected via eth0 straight to the router so hopefully it will pick up the firmware and fix all of the sluggish problems, XP is currently running about 5-10x as fast as the ubuntu partition
[23:46] <yooha> DarwinSurvivor: i dont type any i just plug the usb and it work
[23:47] <DarwinSurvivor> yooha: oh, it's usb, ok
[23:47] <yooha> DarwinSurvivor:  yes
[23:47] <esmirlin> hey guys do you know how to get multitouch gestures in precise?
[23:47] <DarwinSurvivor> yooha: well, I don't use network manager from the cli, so all I can suggest is to edit /etc/resolv.conf and change the ip to "8.8.8.8", but you will need to redo that each time you reconnect
[23:47] <nibbler_> hi. http://nopaste.dk/p5120 - why does apt-file find a packet, but apt-get cannot install it?
[23:47] <yooha> maybe its this http://paste.ubuntu.com/998226/
[23:47] <vexaxv> anyone in here play minecraft?
[23:48] <DarwinSurvivor> yooha: try that now and see if it fixes the problem.
well it say no updates but i allready did a apt-get update so i ask you one more time before i thank you. is everything ok???
[23:48] <yooha> DarwinSurvivor:  ok
[23:48] <DarwinSurvivor> yooha: if it does fix the problem, perharps someone else can help you make the change permanent
[23:48] <L3top> yes alexandr0s. Everything is good.
[23:49] <yooha> DarwinSurvivor: it works  ;] thanks
ok man thank you very.....very much.
[23:49] <yooha> but it get overirded next time : P
[23:49] <L3top> np
[23:50] <DarwinSurvivor> yooha: ok, one more thing to do. phone your cell phone company and ask them why their DNS server is altering entries!
[23:50] <DarwinSurvivor> yooha: it may be a "feature" you can opt out of
[23:50] <terafl0ps> Nogal: You may need to re-run that last ifconfig eth0 10.1.1.1 line once the wired connection comes up.  If you ran my script while the cable between the  laptops wasn't connected, the first computer may have tried to get an internet connection through the wired link.
[23:51] <yooha> DarwinSurvivor:  ill look in the web for it
[23:51] <yooha> thanks
[23:51] <DarwinSurvivor> yooha: no problem
[23:51] <terafl0ps> Nogal: but this would have failed because the second machine obviously can't get to the Internet.
[23:51] <L3top> nibbler_: does apt-cache search libgtk2.0-dev       return a result?
[23:52] <nibbler_> L3top, no, no result there.
[23:52] <DarwinSurvivor> yooha: for future reference though, if you are having internet problems and you are tethering off a cellphone (ESPECIALLY if that cellphone has the same problem), giving that information can save a LOT of time
[23:52] <yooha> DarwinSurvivor: i didnt tho of it ;P
[23:52] <L3top> file search != cache search. what version ubuntu are you on nibbler_?
[23:53] <nibbler_> L3top, 12.4
[23:53] <Nogal> terafl0ps: yeah, I just downloaded another 12.04 iso and i'm going to try to reinstall the whole system with it connected to the router in the garage. I'm tired of messing with this. If it works, great, if not, screw it and I'll expand ntfs
[23:53] <nibbler_> i just need retroshare, but the ppa does not support 12.4. building it myself works, but as a runtime dependency it needs gpa, which is not in ubuntu anymore, building it fails due to missing gtk/gtk.h - how to get gtk.h?
[23:53] <aLLStaR>  [ U y a r ý ]  :  nibbler_  : Lütfen Seviyeyi Düþürmeyiniz Aksi Taktirde Kanaldan Uzaklaþtýrýlýcaksýnýz !.iyi sohbetler dilerim...
[23:53] <L3top> thats weird nibbler_... it is in main. What does your /etc/apt/sources.list look like? Can you pastebin it?
[23:53] <aLLStaR>  [ U y a r ý ]  :  L3top  : Lütfen Seviyeyi Düþürmeyiniz Aksi Taktirde Kanaldan Uzaklaþtýrýlýcaksýnýz !.iyi sohbetler dilerim...
[23:55] <L3top> !tr | aLLStaR
[23:55] <nibbler_> L3top, http://nopaste.dk/p5121
[23:55] <aLLStaR> thanks
[23:55] <terafl0ps> indian: This is probably more of a virtualbox question than an ubuntu question.  You'll probably get more help in their channel.  I know I had to go through the whole installation of the VBoxAdditions in safe mode procedure to get mine to work.  I also had to reinstall DirectX.
[23:55] <Nogal> afk
[23:57] <greenwolf> i am having a problem on a fresh install of ubuntu seems to not be picking up my dell wireless card
[23:57] <greenwolf> how can i get this working?
[23:57] <L3top> nibbler_: that is a wee bit confusing. Can you apt-get update apt-cache policy libgtk2.0-dev
[23:57] <nibbler_> L3top, i re-ran apt-get update, now it is found
[23:58] <L3top> lol
[23:58] <L3top> ok
[23:58] <greenwolf> anyone?
[23:58] <MestreLion> any known issue regarding apps that behave *very* strangely after being pinned to launcher? Like launcher not being able to track windows anymore?
[23:58] <greenwolf> ubuntu seems to have not found or picked up my wireless card?
[23:58] <greenwolf> how can i get this working
[23:58] <L3top> greenwolf: you waited 4 seconds
[23:58] <greenwolf> i sorry
[23:59] <L3top> I couldnt even type a reply
[23:59] <MestreLion> greenwolf: did you check system settings > hardware drivers already?
[23:59] <greenwolf> this is an old driver why is this not inculded\
[23:59] <greenwolf> im using ubuntu server so just command line
[23:59] <L3top> What kind of wireless card do you have? lspci | grep -Ei '(wireless|wlan)'
[23:59] <L3top> greenwolf: