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CIA-42[kdelibs] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20120521001917-hii23u0admw50sai * debian/ (37 files in 2 dirs) (log message trimmed)00:19
CIA-42* Merge with Debian git, remaining changes: - no build-dep on libaspell-dev - no00:19
CIA-42build-dep on libfam-dev - kdelibs5-data: don't install kspell_aspell.desktop -00:19
CIA-42[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kactivities] Philip Muškovac * 17 * debian/ (6 files in 2 dirs) * Merge with debian git, remaining changes: - keep own symbol file * Remove obsolete libkactivities.install * New upstream beta release TODO06:40
CIA-42[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/smokegen] Philip Muškovac * 30 * debian/ (6 files in 2 dirs) * Merge with debian git, remaining changes: - add libcppparser.so to not-installed * New upstream beta release TODO06:53
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CIA-42[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/smokeqt] Philip Muškovac * 25 * debian/ (7 files) * Sync with debian git * New upstream beta release TODO07:04
jussiright, so a acouple of things that have come up about kde-telepathy after using it for about 2 mins. (Ill report bugs soson if there arent already)08:22
jussifirst. no message indicator support08:22
jussisecond. no room choosing, only entering room name directly in jabber08:23
jussi3rd, no apparent configuration options08:23
jussi(for style/look of chats etc, as kopete has)08:23
ronnocjussi: I would wait a few more weeks until .4 comes out, and t hen file any relevant bugs at that time08:35
jussironnoc: ok, thanks08:41
ronnocjussi: Here's an idea of what's coming: http://www.sharpley.org.uk/blog/kde-telepathy-in-0-408:42
Tm_Tjussi: themes, in kde-telepathy? AFAIK there's none08:42
ronnocNot sure how many of your issues will be addressed, but probably worth the wait since the release is so close :)08:42
jussiTm_T: yes... that was my point...08:42
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apacheloggerJontheEchidna: bug 94808813:57
ubottuLaunchpad bug 948088 in muon (Ubuntu) "Missing language pack when installed on KUBUNTU" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/94808813:57
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CIA-42[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdepimlibs] Philip Muškovac * 169 * debian/ (4 files in 2 dirs) * Merge with debian git, remaining changes: - use versioned boost build-depends - keep breaks/replaces - keep symbol files * New upstream beta release TODO15:22
apacheloggerwhy this is nice, xsettings-kde causes only slightly more events than kded Oo16:22
apacheloggerthat is with using 10 times less cpu time16:23
apacheloggersome piece of software that is Oo16:23
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apachelogger    while (1) {16:27
apachelogger  if (!XPending(xev->display)) {16:27
apachelogger        sleep(2);16:27
apachelogger        continue;16:27
apachelogger    }16:27
apacheloggerOo16:27
apachelogger:O16:27
apacheloggeroO16:27
jtechidnalolol16:30
shadeslayerapachelogger: dafaw16:34
shadeslayerdamnit I screwed it16:34
* apachelogger makes image to express feeling16:35
shadeslayerapachelogger: s/image/meme/16:35
apacheloggerhttp://i.imgur.com/Ynb7k.jpg16:36
shadeslayerheh16:37
jtechidnayou know, XNextEvent sleeps until it actually gets an event16:39
apacheloggerdon't be silly now16:40
apacheloggerwhy use this magic when the solution is only a sleep(2) away16:40
jtechidnalol16:40
apacheloggerinterestingly enough XNextEvent is the first function I found when looking for xev xpending16:41
apacheloggerstill I like the sleep there16:41
apacheloggerwhat I do not like is the continue16:42
apacheloggeroh, gotta leave for train16:42
apacheloggerlaters16:43
apacheloggerI shall be fix0ring this when I get home16:43
apacheloggerIf I get home16:43
* jussi waves17:14
phoenix_firebrd!find akonaditray17:20
ubottuFile akonaditray found in app-install-data, kdepim-runtime, kdepim-runtime-dbg, kubuntu-active-default-settings, kubuntu-low-fat-settings, language-pack-kde-ar-base, language-pack-kde-ast-base, language-pack-kde-bg-base, language-pack-kde-bs-base, language-pack-kde-ca-base (and 46 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=akonaditray&mode=&suite=precise&arch=any17:21
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Daskreechhi jussi 19:58
phoenix_firebrdi am having problem executing mysql using kprocess.20:09
nixternal#occupyubuntu20:09
phoenix_firebrdhe he he20:09
nixternalthese nato protestors got me wanting to protest20:09
nixternalgod i love living in chicago20:09
nixternali found out that wearing a Free Software or Ubuntu t-shirt this week in and around Chicago, you were immediately labeled one of them20:10
dantti_laptopapachelogger: ping20:26
phoenix_firebrdi have a patch for this bug https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=279145 what should i do21:05
ubottuKDE bug 279145 in general "i can't restore akonadi backup done with akonaditray" [Normal,New: ]21:05
Ezimhi. one question. compiling digikam does it requiare around 400 mb download for the depen?21:06
Ezimhttp://paste.kde.org/483896/21:06
yofelphoenix_firebrd: either attach to the bug, or try to get it accepted directly by putting it on reviewboard.kde.org21:07
phoenix_firebrdyofel: ok i will try the second one21:08
yofelEzim: all in all? yeah, could be. does sound a bit much though21:08
yofelbut then again, digikam is rather large21:08
Ezimyofel, it sound really alot :)21:08
Ezimyofel, http://paste.kde.org/483908/21:10
Ezim459 MB is a lot21:10
yofeltexlive stuff is what bloats it, looks right otherwise21:10
JontheEchidnayou can probably not pull in the tex stuff by passing --no-install-recommends21:11
Ezimyofel, texlive does not needed?21:11
JontheEchidnaEzim: ^21:11
EzimJontheEchidna, sorry do not really understand.21:11
JontheEchidnasudo apt-get build-dep digikam --no-install-recommends21:11
EzimJontheEchidna, muon-guy? :)21:11
JontheEchidna;-)21:11
EzimJontheEchidna, that will do exactly what? make debian-package without depen..?21:12
JontheEchidnait will take all the build-depends listed in the debian package and install them with apt-get21:12
JontheEchidnayou could also do:21:12
JontheEchidnasudo apt-get install pkg-kde-tools doxygen kdelibs5-dev liblcms1-dev libtiff4-dev liblqr-1-0-dev libjasper-dev liblensfun-dev libsqlite3-dev libltdl3-dev libcv-dev libcvaux-dev libhighgui-dev libboost-graph1.46-dev libksane-dev libxml2-dev libxslt-dev libqjson-dev libgpod-dev libqca2-dev libgphoto2-2-dev libkipi-dev libkexiv2-dev libkdcraw-dev libmarble-dev kdepimlibs5-dev mysql-server-5.1 mysql-server libgphoto2-2-dev --no-21:12
JontheEchidnainstall-recommends21:12
JontheEchidnawell, minus that line break :P21:13
JontheEchidnaby default apt will install packages recommended by the packages you are trying to install, but aren't strictly necessary21:13
EzimJontheEchidna, no it is around 43,8 mb. what :) kind of magic was that?21:15
Ezim*now21:15
JontheEchidnapackages can have "soft dependencies" called "recommends" that may not strictly be required, but are recommended for general use21:16
JontheEchidnapassing --no-install-recommends causes apt to not mark those for install like it would normally do21:16
EzimJontheEchidna, thx for the info. 21:16
Ezimapt understand what it needs and not needed to build package?21:17
JontheEchidnakind of. a source package contains a list of packages that are needed to build it21:18
yofelEzim: the build-depends field in the package tells the required packages. it's just that those have recommends which you don't need to build the package but are installed by default21:18
JontheEchidnae.g. you could probably run "sudo apt-get build-dep digikam --no-install-recommends" and get the same stuff installed21:18
Ezimyofel, okey I understand so not all does listes is needed to build the package?21:19
yofelthe recommends aren't21:19
yofelEzim: the technical documentation is here if you want to read it someday: http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-relationships.html21:19
yofelsee 7.2 specifically21:20
Ezimyofel, thx. 21:21
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=muon.git&a=commit&h=5761a87fcb8cab15ca425019bc5ca22a5df809d121:30
apacheloggerdantti_laptop: pogo21:36
apacheloggerso21:36
apacheloggeryou know how I implied that I might not get home21:36
apacheloggerturns out I really almost did not get home21:36
apacheloggerthat is: I was supposed to be home like 2.5 hours ago ^^21:37
apacheloggerJontheEchidna++21:37
apacheloggeru sexy21:37
apacheloggeroh21:37
JontheEchidna<321:37
apacheloggeralso I traced the busy wait21:37
apacheloggerwas introduced by a patch in fedora21:37
apacheloggersupposedly unintentional as the patch was about syncing up the IM settings21:38
apacheloggerhttps://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=72782221:38
ubottuError: Could not parse XML returned by bugzilla.redhat.com: HTTP Error 404: Not Found (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/xml.cgi?id=727822)21:38
apacheloggerrdieter: ping21:38
rdieterapachelogger: pong21:39
apacheloggerrdieter: aformentioned patch introduces a busy wait, I guess that was not intentional?21:39
rdieterhope not. :-/21:40
apacheloggeralso can we please move xsettings-kde to the mighty kde git?21:40
rdieteryes please21:40
* apachelogger grovels to the sysadmins21:40
rdieterbeen meaning to bribe/con the madriva folks currently owning it to do so21:40
apacheloggerrdieter: mageia or mandriva?21:41
rdietermandriva I believe21:42
rdietererrr, nevermind, megeia now21:42
rdieterhttp://svnweb.mageia.org/soft/theme/xsettings-kde/ is where we get it from21:42
apacheloggeroh, jolly active21:43
Kevin_KoflerSo the Gtk/IMModule patch is strange in that it's not reading a KDE setting, but a GSettings setting. It's not really xsettings-kde's job to work on GSettings. :-/21:43
apacheloggerKevin_Kofler: that too what is more concerning is the if(...) sleep(); continue(); though ... particularly since XNextEvent is blocking on an empty queue, so that the if construct causes pointless wakeups ... in fact more than kded4, which is how I noticed it to begin with21:45
Kevin_KoflerUhm yeah, I don't think the added wait loop is a good idea.21:46
Kevin_KoflerThe question is, does the patch work without the loop?21:47
Kevin_KoflerAnd also, should we be reading GSettings in xsettings-kde in the first place?21:47
dantti_laptopapachelogger: you might want to make a releaseme work around for https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=29303021:48
ubottuKDE bug 293030 in KDE4 (cmake) "po files do not build due to cmake error - FindGettext.cmake bug" [Normal,Reopened: ]21:48
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apacheloggerKevin_Kofler: im-chooser sets the gsetting I suppose, IMHO from a KDE perspective it is more interesting whether kiminputwhateverplasmoidthing gets picked up properly21:52
Kevin_Koflerkimpanel21:54
apacheloggerrdieter: dmorgan needs to ask WRT moving to KDE, otherwise they plan to move it to their git which would open it to external contribution21:55
apacheloggerdanimo: uhm, I might :)21:57
apacheloggereh sry21:57
apacheloggerdantti: ^21:57
danttiapachelogger: cool thanks :)22:12
apacheloggerdantti: that is not to say that I will :P22:12
apacheloggerfirst need to inspect the problem again22:12
apacheloggerdantti: also you should poke alex about integrating that new find script22:12
danttilol22:13
apacheloggerrdieter, Kevin_Kofler: http://paste.kde.org/483962/22:14
apacheloggerwhere is my bot again22:15
apacheloggerjussi: we need to fix up a new init script for kubotu ^^22:15
apacheloggeryofel: ping22:15
apacheloggeryofel: unping22:15
yofellol22:15
yofelwhatever it is, I'm off to bed (6h sleep left)22:16
yofel'night22:16
apacheloggersleep is for the weak, or the ones without sufficient coffee supply22:17
apacheloggerkubotu: hi22:18
apacheloggerkubotu: order coffee22:18
kubotuhello apachelogger22:19
* kubotu slides coffee with milk down the bar to apachelogger.22:19
Kevin_Koflerapachelogger, dantti: The bug report says the fixed find script has already been merged in CMake 2.8.7.22:22
Kevin_Koflerapachelogger, rdieter: The xsettings-kde patch to remove the bogus loop looks OK to me.22:23
Kevin_KoflerWe should get this upstreamed to Mageia and also build fixed xsettings-kde in Fedora and Kubuntu.22:23
danttiKevin_Kofler: hmm well having the mentioned work around help packages done in 12.04 :)22:23
apacheloggerKevin_Kofler: already pasted it to dmorgan (Mageia)22:24
apacheloggerhrrhrr22:24
apacheloggerto put a measure on it22:25
apacheloggerwith the loop powertop reports 0.5 events per second when idle22:25
apacheloggerwithout it does not even apear in the list ;)22:25
apacheloggeralso that is ~14us of cpu time right there :D22:26
Kevin_Kofler0.5 events per second is exactly what one would expect from a while (…) sleep(2); loop. :-/22:28
apacheloggersuppose it is22:29
apacheloggerrdieter: outlook is good for move to kde22:31
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: your kde mail addy is not associated with your lunch user?22:34
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: should be the same addy22:37
JontheEchidnamy @kubuntu.org one22:37
apacheloggercurious that your CCMAIL did not show up then22:37
JontheEchidnaI did get a bounce saying "The message you sent included commands to modify the bug report,but you didn't sign the message with your OpenPGP key."22:38
JontheEchidnabut I don't think anything there would modify the bug report aside from adding the comment, which should work :s22:39
apacheloggerhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xsettings-kde/0.12.3-0ubuntu322:42
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: hm, well, it inlines the diff ... so the lunchpad could mistake that for commands (as commands start with a whitespace22:42
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apacheloggerbug 918765 is brrr23:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 918765 in qt4-x11 (Ubuntu) "the file '/etc/xdg/Trolltech.conf' is in two packages" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/91876523:12
apacheloggerwhy is that file in libqtcore anyway23:12
dasKreechkevIs Kubuntu planning on going with LIghtDM?23:13
apacheloggerpardon?23:20
dasKreechWell I saw work on a KDE LightDM System settings and as I understand it Ubuntu is going with LightDM?23:21
apacheloggerthat doesn't mean we are :P23:22
apacheloggerthough last I checked kdm had no active dev so someone should try to sell lightdm to upstream again :P23:22
apacheloggerI think agateau could do that ^^23:22
dasKreechI was just looking at the multiseat for F17. iT requires some DM changes. Would be nice to  know if it makes more sense to consolidate on lightDM or work inside KDM23:28
* apachelogger thinks the lightdm is the future, even if other kde people choose to not think so ^^23:35
dasKreechwhat makes it so?23:35
apacheloggerit has flipping power management23:39
apacheloggeralso qml UIs23:39
apacheloggerwhich reminds me23:39
dasKreechI prefer steady power manangement23:39
apacheloggerScottK: if we were to switch to the lightdm the dreadful window focus issues would go away ;)23:39
apacheloggerhmmmm23:41
apacheloggerdantti: ping23:41
danttiapachelogger: pong23:41
apacheloggerdantti: I don't see how I could work around the pobug via releaseme23:41
apacheloggerit is caused by the GETTEXT_PROCESS_PO_FILES macro23:42
dasKreechAlso when I boot up Kubuntu first time I get youtube working inrekonq. I presume it doesn't ship with Flash?23:42
danttiapachelogger: prepend cmake_policy(SET CMP0002 OLD) in po/CMakeLists.txt23:42
danttiworked for me23:42
apacheloggerdantti: I think that applies to the entire thing though23:42
apacheloggeri.e. no matter what you set in the main cmake file the policy will end up OLD23:43
danttidunno, I'm no expert, it just worked for apper..23:43
danttiotherwise cmake .. failes23:43
apacheloggerthough I may be mistaken as the cmake project scope always confuses the hell out of me23:43
dantti*fails23:43
apacheloggertechnically every folder might be an independent project23:43
apacheloggerin which case the scope probably does not get poluted23:44
danttiI think the child dirs inherit the parents...23:44
dantti*theirs23:44
apacheloggerwell that for sure23:44
apacheloggerbut cmake_policy could well be global to the project which raises the question if every dir is a new project or not23:45
danttiso po/CMakeLists.txt might not be a bad idea for a workaround, up to you...23:45
danttihmm right,,23:45
apacheloggerA new entry on the policy stack is managed automatically for each subdirectory to protect its parents and siblings. 23:45
apacheloggerah23:45
apacheloggersounds like they thought of it23:46
danttihehe23:46
apacheloggerOo23:53
apacheloggerdoesn't work for me23:53
apacheloggerah23:54
apacheloggerneeds to be at the top23:54
apacheloggerwtf23:54
danttiyup23:59

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