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ebreissI have a question about the dictionary widget in Kubuntu 12.04. whe I try and use the widget, it seems that it does not accept the query when I type the enter key. Is there a setting somewhere I should change?00:15
Daskreechebreiss: does it ever accept the query?00:38
ebreissdaskreech00:40
ebreissI can type the query in, but it doesn't do anything when I do the actual search.00:40
dbc254uninstalled k3b because of errors. Tried to apt-get and it's trying to overwrite KDE with Gnome desktop which fried my install once already . HELP!01:10
dbc254is there something other than k3b that'll do this?01:11
cancerL3top: hey01:27
cancerAm i logged in?01:28
L3topyes... you are... hi cancer01:29
cancerHi, nice to see you :)01:29
cancerL3top: can you help me with 'Backtrack'. i want to know how to install it. i heard it needs seperate partition. but i got this link as well. need you kind advice. :)01:31
cancerhttp://www.kartook.com/2009/12/how-to-install-backtracktools-on-ubuntu/01:31
L3top!backtrack01:32
ubottuThere are some Ubuntu derivatives that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux), Ultimate Edition01:32
cancerL3top: 'backtrack' individualy installed or tool within ubuntu mean same right?01:32
cancerL3top: == Cannot send to channel: #backtrack-linux ?01:35
cancerfor each of my msg that reply showed up.01:36
L3topyes, you show up muted. I do not know the specifics of their rules.01:37
L3topread the header01:37
cancerOk01:37
cancerL3top: will i be able to logged in with quassel. i'm currently using Xp.01:38
L3topI am in there in quassel01:39
cancerL3top: Ok, i think i should switched to kubuntu01:40
cancerbe right back :)01:40
L3topI wait with baited breath.01:43
cancerBack.01:44
cancer!backtrack01:44
ubottuThere are some Ubuntu derivatives that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux), Ultimate Edition01:44
cancerL3top: now trying with quassel.01:45
cancerL3top: i don't think quassel is working fine for me. can you please once more check if my msg's are visible there. :|01:50
L3topcancer... 1 this is not a kubuntu support issue. 2 I told you to read their rules, you have to register before you can speak there...01:52
L3topits all in the header01:52
cancerah ok. will that need to open email to confirm ID.01:53
cancerregistration*01:53
IdleOne!register | cancer01:57
ubottucancer: Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode01:57
IdleOnecancer: yes you need to use a valid email address, not one of them throw-away ones01:57
robstarkls *02:13
robstarkstupid irc02:13
robstarkls * | less02:13
Daskreechrobstark: what are you doing?02:15
cancer(/msg nickserv register <password> <email>) just need to choose nickserv"nick" & do i need to use those angels brackets around password and email02:17
robstarkNothin just bored lol02:17
robstarkI was pretendin to try to get a channel list02:17
cancerand where to paste that command?02:18
L3topRegistration help available by typing /join #freenode02:21
renosisI was just wondering if there is any kind of tutorial that shows the features of the kubuntu desktop and how to use it?02:23
renosisThings like how to setup the Widgets and Panels, some cool features or tips?02:24
Daskreechcancer: No You don't the <> means replace with something02:25
L3toprenosis: like this? http://userbase.kde.org/Tutorials02:25
renosisL3top, yes thank you! That is lovely... I couldn't find anything like that at kubuntu.org!02:26
Daskreechrenosis: Someone had a youtube channel with that. I don't remember it right now though :(02:26
renosisDaskreech: Ah, I'll search Youtube too, thanks!02:27
Daskreechrenosis: I'd hesitate on a here is how you do thigns in KDE though02:36
DaskreechThat's a nice tidy way to blow a lifetime. There are lots of ways to do lots of things02:36
renosisDaskreech, ah noted, I am just gonna find some good ones, had my brother install and I want him to know how to use it so he doesn't ask me02:38
Daskreechha ha. Point him to this room02:39
cancerdaskreech: i'm stuck in #freenode. can't find anystaff02:41
Daskreechrenosis: What does your brother use the computer for?02:41
renosisOh I will... but I want him to learn some stuff so he can at least wait till he is really stumped before asking02:41
Daskreechcancer: what are you trying to do?02:41
renosishe wants to use it for Music production and he is sick of Windows XP02:42
cancerregister. and just now maybe i got the staff.02:42
renosishe has this DSP latency problem that causes crackles in his music and he also worries that the computer will crash during a show02:43
Daskreechcancer: Did you speak with nickserv ?02:43
Daskreechrenosis: ha ha ok well Kubuntu is an interesting place to start but you may want to push him towards a music distro once he's settled in02:43
renosishe says he heard linux was stable, I gave him Ubuntu Studio first.... but he said the interface was too ugly, looked like the 80s02:44
renosishehe02:44
renosisHe also tried Linux Mint, but didn't like that either02:45
DaskreechHa ha Well Does he like Kubuntu ?02:45
renosisya!02:45
renosisso far so good, he got really frustrated today trying to setup his proprietary soundcard drivers... m-audio delta 1010lt02:45
Daskreechrenosis: ask in #also02:46
Daskreech#alsa02:46
renosishe isn't so good at the terminal, I was hoping he could find everything he needed using the repo02:46
renosisah, they have a channel?02:47
DaskreechYes they do02:48
renosisI plan to go over there tomorrow and help him do the installation and I will definitely stop in if I can't get it either02:48
DaskreechUNless he's using jack02:48
DaskreechWhat version of Kubuntu are you using?02:48
renosis12.0402:49
Daskreechok02:50
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renosisI just got the KDE 4.8 Update, nice02:52
Daskreech:-)02:53
DaskreechWait till KDE 4.9!! :)02:53
renosisheh02:53
renosisTime for sleep, nice talking to you Daskreech, be seeing you around02:57
kernelcruncher12.04 I keep getting a tray popup about stuff I need to make apps work better, can I remove this?02:58
Daskreechkernelpanic: Which apps?03:10
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cancer!backtrack04:40
ubottuThere are some Ubuntu derivatives that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux), Ultimate Edition04:40
cancerL3top: you there?04:41
L3topNot for backtrack support I'm not...04:43
cancerL3top: i wasn't calling for that. just was forced by emotions, caused by that channel :D phew...04:54
L3topWhat can I do for you then?04:55
cancerL3top: sorry, it seem you are offended.05:01
cancerany help about running virtual box inside kubuntu? :)05:01
L3topI am not... I was offering to help you. Hard to detect tone in text sometimes.05:02
L3topWhat issues are you having with it?05:02
linuxjonesis facial recognition gone as a login option now?05:05
DaskreechNot with LDM I think05:09
cancerL3top: sorry i was with 3 channels asking solution. just this left now.05:21
cancerhow to check how much space kubuntu is using?05:23
L3topdf -h05:23
canceris 20Gb enough for Kubuntu?05:23
DaskreechFree? yes05:23
cancernope, with installed.05:24
DaskreechIf you have /home on a different partition then yes05:24
cancerhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/998515/05:24
Daskreechif not then ... maybe if you are diligent05:24
cancerDaskreech: i have installed xp too. i am practicing on kubuntu. so don't save in it partition.05:25
cancerDaskreech: is that showing 33Gb?05:26
cancerI want to seperate 10Gb from it to install bt-5.05:29
cancer!patience05:31
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com/ http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ or http://www.kubuntuforums.net/ while you wait.05:31
Daskreechcancer: 27 GB05:33
Daskreech33 GB is in total. You are using 13% of it and you have 27 GB available05:33
Daskreechcancer: you can take 10 Gb and then you will have 17 GB free05:34
cancerDaskreech: then i believe 17 will be enough after seperating ten from it.05:34
cancerthat's enough right?05:34
Daskreechcancer: If you are not using it yes05:34
L3topYou don't want to max it out... but yes.05:34
cancerL3top: i don't use to save data in kubuntu parition. i have other partitions for that purpose and for installing more kubuntu related apps i think 17 will be enough.05:36
cancerDaskreech: using it in the above described way. whats you point now?05:37
Daskreechcancer: hmm?05:38
DaskreechWhat's my Point?05:38
cancerah, just ensuring about usage i described05:40
cancerOk. i want to creat 10 gb partition. How please?05:41
Daskreechapt-get install partitionmanager05:41
cancerDaskreech: just to confirm, is it the command to launch dolphin with root? 'kdesudo dolphin' ?05:43
cancerjust learned yesterday.05:43
cancerhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/998529/ <<< is that all fine. just curious about line six with word FAKE?05:45
Daskreechcancer: kdesudo dolphin is correct05:46
Daskreech you can type that into krunner05:46
Daskreechcancer: that's fine05:47
Daskreech!info fakeroot05:47
ubottufakeroot (source: fakeroot): tool for simulating superuser privileges. In component main, is optional. Version 1.18.2-1 (precise), package size 85 kB, installed size 301 kB05:47
cancerDaskreech: thanks. partition manager is running and partition is locked?05:47
DaskreechIt's a program to test if something is possible as root without actually taking on the privileges05:47
Daskreechcancer: You cannot edit a partition that's in use. i.e. you can't be on the file sysme you are diting05:48
Daskreech normally people will edit the hard drive partition from another drive or from a live environment05:48
cancerthat05:48
Daskreech Live environment is best since obviously you are not using any hard drive05:48
cancerthat's mean i will not be able to resize it?05:49
DaskreechNot while you are using it05:49
cancer:( then how to do it.05:50
cancerany tool.05:50
canceri'm afraid to do it from windows xp.05:51
Daskreechcancer: how did you install kubuntu ?05:52
cancerDaskreech: i created the partition from XP.05:52
cancerbut afraid to resize it from the same software. afraid to lose installed kubuntu.05:53
Daskreechcancer: What did yuo use to install kubuntu?05:53
cancerCd05:53
canceri burned ISO to CD.05:54
Daskreechcancer: Ok boot with the Cd in the CD drive and it should start from teh Cd05:55
DaskreechIt will ask you if you want ot install kubuntu or try kubuntu05:55
Daskreech click try kubuntu and it will boot to a desktop05:56
cancerhmm05:56
DaskreechJust run partitionmanager there and you can join back here05:56
Daskreech we will help you thorugh the resizing05:56
cancerOK.05:56
canceri'll be back, cause it's just time for power down here for an hour.05:58
cancerDaskreech: | L3top: again many thanks for help & patience. See ya :)06:00
Daskreechis that you will be back in an hour?06:00
Daskreech or you will be back now?06:00
Daskreechthen have to leave for an hour?06:00
cancerah, that's another philosophy behind my words some related to grammer and some to thoughs. so some time what i meant to say wasn't what i actually meant. can't explain it like that.06:01
Daskreech:-)06:03
Daskreech Ok06:03
Daskreechwell when you are ready boot from the CD and click Try kubuntu then you can come back here and go through the partition resize06:04
saeedhi06:07
saeedi want to write a new widget by QML for kde06:08
saeedhow can i find list of application that install in my kubuntu06:09
saeedfor listing in my widget06:09
susundbergsaeed: you can find list of the applications installed via package manager06:12
susundbergsaeed: see for example dpkg --list06:13
saeedi want use list of install app in my widget06:13
susundbergi am not sure is that really a good idea to do widget for that, but who am i to judge ..06:14
Daskreechsaeed: What is the point of hte plasmoid?06:16
saeedi dont06:18
saeedi want to write LanchPad06:19
saeedwhen use this06:19
saeedlanchpad show me list of install software in my kubuntu06:20
DaskreechAh ok06:21
saeedhow can i do it??06:21
Daskreech#launchpad may be of help06:22
Daskreech other than that man dpkg06:22
saeedok06:22
saeedtnx06:22
jussican someone remind me on where to configure the corner actions? ie. when I mouse into a corner of the screen?06:44
jussiahh never mind... I finally found it...06:45
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cancerDashkreech: hey.07:15
cancerPartition Manager is running, i'm waiting for your command. do i select the partition and click on Resize/Move.07:16
NoiseChancellorHey, I'm new to this whole linux business, so I figured I'd just ask: Will kernel 3.4 and GIMP 2.8 be available through the standard (k)ubuntu repositories at some point in the next few weeks or should I look into a) wether I really need/want them and b) how to get whichever version I'd like on my own?07:19
cancer#backtrack-linux07:20
NoiseChancellorcancer: you mean ask in that channel? I'm honestly lost as to what goes where sometimes07:23
cancerNoiseChancellor: i'm sorry that wasn't for you. i was trying to open that channel by command. :)07:24
cancerNoiseChancellor: Questions about Kubuntu should be asked here.07:25
cancer!patience07:25
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com/ http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ or http://www.kubuntuforums.net/ while you wait.07:25
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NoiseChancellorcancer: I looked on the web, but I didn't quite learn why the repos seem to not have the latest releases. I just liked some of the features in the changelogs and want to know if/when the new versions will be available through the repositories.07:28
NoiseChancellorEither way, gotta run. Bye07:28
cancerbye :)07:29
cancer!repos | NoiseChancellor07:29
ubottuNoiseChancellor: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories07:29
cancer!kernel | NoiseChancellor07:30
ubottuNoiseChancellor: The core of Ubuntu is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, and if you need to troubleshoot issues, you can try a !Mainline kernel instead, but if you insist, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile (see also !Stages)07:30
cancer!GIMP | NoiseChancellor07:30
ubottuNoiseChancellor: gimp is an advanced image manipulation application for Ubuntu. See http://www.gimp.org for tutorials and more information.07:30
cancer:D07:30
Daskreechcancer: yes07:40
Daskreechresize it to be 10 GB smaller07:40
Daskreechthen you will have 10 GB of free space07:41
Daskreechclick that and make a new partition07:41
cancerDaskreech: thanks i have resized it afterspace 11 gb.07:45
cancerspace after*07:45
cancerclick ok. and going to click APPLY07:45
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cancerDaskreech: http://imagebin.org/21322207:48
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cancerAlas; no reply07:54
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jussiI installed "kde-telepathy" but How does one launch it?08:17
jussioh for the second time, never mind... I always seem to ask after looking for ages, and then find it08:18
Tm_Tjussi: rubberduck (:08:42
jussiIs it pssible to set custom actions for active screen edges? ie.others than those on the list?10:07
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cancerDaskreech: hi11:32
cancerDaskreech: i actually lost OS (Kubuntu). i dunno why partition manager stucked at 66% and mouse was difficult at that time to move. so just reinstalled kubuntu. new partition is created anyway. i know will manage that partition in XP.11:36
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marcociao a tutti11:57
marco!list11:57
ubottumarco: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».11:57
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Tm_Tmarco: welcome to #kubuntu, he official support channel of Kubuntu linux desktop11:58
bomberhello12:06
bomberI have a usb drive and for some reason when it mounts i only have read access to it. Is there someone that can help me get read write access to it12:07
bomber?12:07
alleebomber: that's the developer channel.  Please ask on #kubuntu12:22
IdleOnebomber: were you using it in Windows previously and didn't cleanly unmount it?12:23
IdleOneif so, reboot to windows and "safely remove drive" or whatever it is that Windows calls it.12:24
bomberIdleOne,  I dont use windows..... The drive is strictly used with this system12:43
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BluesKajHey all13:27
L3tophola13:30
monkeylabhow do u get minecraft on ubuntu13:53
monkeylabit has blackscreen13:53
lordievaderGood afternoon13:54
monkeylabminecraft has blackscreen on ubuntu 12.04 LTS i need help!13:54
lordievadermonkeylab: Do you have graphics drivers installed?13:55
monkeylabIdk...13:55
monkeylabwhat do i need?13:55
john__monkeylab, have you already tried this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=181276713:55
lordievadermonkeylab: Depends, what kind of gfx card do you have?13:55
L3topmonkeylab: lspci -nn | grep VGA13:55
monkeylabi have an acer aspire one but idk what the gfx card is...13:56
monkeylabdoesnt tell me...13:56
lordievadermonkeylab: Run the command L3top told you.13:56
monkeylabkk thx13:56
lordievadermonkeylab: That will show you what gfx card you have.13:56
monkeylabthis is what i have:  Intel Corporation Mobile 945GSE Express Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:27ae] (rev 03)13:57
L3topmonkeylab: sudo apt-get install i965-va-driver13:58
john__btw, can anyone else get flash to work on ff/chromium on 12.04?13:58
L3topyes john__13:58
lordievaderjohn__: Flash works fine here.13:58
monkeylabdidnt work came up with this:13:59
monkeylabE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)13:59
john__i get ABORT: X_CopyArea problems13:59
monkeylabE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?13:59
macomonkeylab: did you use sudo?13:59
monkeylabyeah13:59
macomonkeylab: and do you have another package manager already open?13:59
macoex: muon, adept, kpackagemanager...13:59
monkeylabi have libre office base installing13:59
macothats it then14:00
macoyou cant run apt-get while another install's already going14:00
monkeylabill cancel it14:00
monkeylaband what is the best linux server os?  i just got a server and need a operating system...14:01
lordievadermonkeylab: Ubuntu server is quite okay... got it running on two boxes, (true both are not really a server)14:03
monkeylabi was thinking unbreakable linux but got the wrong version of it...  i have a dell T110 any ideas?14:04
macoi use ubuntu server on my vps. debian is also a good stable serve14:04
maco*server14:04
monkeylabcool, ill use ubuntu server then14:05
macoi do stick to LTS releases on my server though14:05
monkeylabcould it host minecraft servers? (only requirement)14:05
macothat just takes java, right?14:05
monkeylabyeah14:06
macosure14:06
monkeylabalright cool14:06
john__i'm trying to find out some more info about the "xid collision: trouble ahead" issue, does anyone have any experience with it?14:07
lordievaderDoes anyone know where the wallpaper config files are kept? Probably somewhere in ~/.kde/share/config but there are many files....14:09
john__its just /usr/share/wallpapers14:12
lordievaderjohn__: I mean the config file. Not the actual location of the wallpapers. I want to be able to change those settings with a bash script.14:13
monkeylabbye14:13
monkeylabgtg'14:13
john__lordievader try plasma-appletsrc14:18
john__in the config folder[14:18
john__u'll also need plasma-desktop-appletsrc14:18
john__and plasma-desktoprc14:19
john__all in ~/.kde/share/config14:19
lordievaderjohn__: Thx I think I found it.14:21
john__lordievader np14:21
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Daskreechcancer: Ok Sorry to hear.15:03
lapkaвсем ку!15:21
Unit193!ru15:22
ubottuПожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.15:22
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monkeylabminecraft still doesnt work on ubuntu because of blackscreen, i am running it with Open JDK 7, and i have the correct drivers, any suggestions?16:12
monkeylabhelp?16:15
Daskreechmonkeylab: With ?16:21
DaskreechWhat happens when you try to start it? Also how are you starting it?16:21
Daskreechmonkeylab: I don't know if it will help but there is a #minecraft channel on freenode. Has a number of people on it but no idea how responsive they are16:22
cancer!nouveau16:24
ubottunouveau is an open-source nvidia driver included by default since Ubuntu 10.04. Currently, 3D rendering is only partially supported. More information can be found at http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/ | See !nvidia for the closed-source Nvidia driver.16:24
Daskreechhi cancer16:26
DaskreechGot your message16:27
DaskreechSorry that you lost the install16:27
cancerDaskreech: hi16:27
cancerDaskreech: that was meant to happen, no one know abt future.:) anyway i am again stuck in a situation.16:27
DaskreechWhich i?16:28
cancerDaskreech: i cannot operate rekonq. when i execute it, it does open but some graphic issues with it. whole boundary and inner surface of rekonq remain grey. i even can't connect to internet without it.16:29
Peace-cancer: use firefox16:29
cancerDaskreech: Actually 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' was running and power suddenly gone. then i restarted it and also used '--fix-missing' with that command.16:31
cancerPeace-: i don't believe that firefox will work as well. it's some graphic issue maybe. few apps hangs when i try to run them.16:32
Peace-cancer: run them on konsole16:32
Peace-cancer: they should say something16:32
Peace-cancer: video card?16:32
Peace-lspci | grep -i Vga16:32
DaskreechPeace-: broken upgrade16:32
Peace-ah16:33
Peace-:D16:33
Daskreechcancer: can you run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade now ?16:33
cancerDaskreech: yes, but it will start from begenning.16:34
cancerPeace-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/999316/16:36
Peace-cancer: first of all you need to do what Daskreech has said16:36
Peace-a broken upgrade = broken stuff = shit computer16:37
Peace-;:D16:37
cancerDaskreech: | Peace-: yes, that already on it way.16:37
cancerPeace-: haven't seen yet =**** computer :-p16:38
cancerDaskreech: i'm tried to spend time on linux introduction. that's hard to manage but i'll try to arrange little time for it daily.16:42
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cancerDaskreech: Command work finished.16:43
phoenix_firebrdhello everyone16:43
cancerhi16:44
phoenix_firebrdcancer: hi16:44
cancer:)16:45
cancer!patience | cancer16:45
ubottucancer, please see my private message16:45
cancer:D16:45
phoenix_firebrdi am trying to backup the akonadi backup, the backup app says that mysqldump is not installed, so i tried to install it, but couldn't find the package in the repository, there was package called mydumper, i installed it and tried again but no use16:46
cancerphoenix_firebrd: i don't know akonadi, but if you are talking about website backup then that can be done from site CP.16:48
phoenix_firebrdcancer: pim backup16:49
cancerphoenix_firebrd: sorry no idea.16:49
phoenix_firebrdcancer: do you know which package contains mysqldump16:49
cancerwait16:49
cancerhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP16:51
Daskreechcancer: Great :) Still having issues?16:51
cancerbe right back in 5 mins.16:51
Daskreech!find mysqlpdump16:51
ubottuPackage/file mysqlpdump does not exist in precise16:52
Daskreech!find mysqldump16:52
phoenix_firebrdDaskreech: i think i found it16:52
ubottuFile mysqldump found in bacula-common, mysql-client-5.1, mysql-client-5.5, mysql-testsuite-5.5, piwigo16:52
phoenix_firebrdDaskreech: thats it16:52
phoenix_firebrdDaskreech: mysql-client16:52
Daskreechphoenix_firebrd: mysql-client16:52
DaskreechThere you go16:52
Daskreechcancer: Let me know what you want to learn when you come back16:53
cancerDaskreech: unfortunately back SOON :D16:54
DaskreechNormally people are happy when cnacer doesn't come back soon16:55
cancer:-p16:56
Daskreech:-)16:56
cancercnacer, they are even afraid to spell it right :p16:56
Daskreech I'll be happy to see you again don't worry :)16:56
DaskreechYeah I know people whocall it BigC16:56
phoenix_firebrdthe backup was successful16:57
cancerDaskreech: ok, never take me wrong. newbie for english/linux/and ..... let me think.16:57
cancerdon't want to say....16:58
canceri think i must try a reboot, haven't done yet.16:58
canceralmoxarife: hey :)16:58
Daskreechcancer: alright.16:58
cancerbrb:D Time...16:59
* Daskreech waves17:04
DaskreechHey Everyone look who came back!17:05
cancerhi :)17:05
cancer:D17:05
xixoryo, just a quick question, for curiosities sake: will kubuntu 12.04 get the 3.4 kernels?  or will that be saved for the 12.10 release?  I am fairly new to *buntu, just wondering how often kernels get updated, cheers17:06
almoxarifeany thoughts on how to remove a package from the apt database which does not remove via normal means?17:06
cancer_Daskreech: same issue.17:06
cancer_how to update nouveau.17:07
lelamalxixor: no kernel upgrades until 12.10, but just security updates17:07
Daskreechxixor: they will not unless you get a backport or a ppa17:07
Daskreechcancer_: update teh kernel. What's the issues ?17:07
xixorlelamal, Daskreech : ok, thanks, good to know17:08
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cancer_Daskreech: i think graphics lib or what ever it is got to update.17:08
xixorDaskreech, lelamal : if I did say, want to compile 3.4 myself, would it be possible to use the exact same config that was used in 12.04 when they compiled their kernel?  I know there would be a lot of things I wouldn't need compiled, but the ubuntu kernel detected all my hardware without a glitch, so if I were to compile my own kerenl, I'd like to use the same settings17:09
cancer_Daskreech: browser ain't working, so please paste the command to update nouveau...17:09
Daskreechcancer_: What does the browser not working mean?17:09
Daskreechxixor: If you want to wait a few weeks they will have the kernel in +1 and you can just grab that17:10
cancer_everything i save to desktop and icons files are gone. can't even open dolphin. when ever i try that, it only force close....17:11
cancer_browser ain't showing it's pockets to put money. no money no trade :(17:11
Daskreechcancer_: Oh dear. Can you open konsole?17:11
cancer_Sure, konsole/quassel are only working fine.17:12
Daskreechfrom konsole type dolphin17:12
xixorDaskreech: ok, what is +1 ?17:12
cancer_dolphin window still not appeared. still no sign of it.17:13
DaskreechKubuntu+1 The next version going to be released17:14
xixorDaskreech: so are those packages available through a ppa then?17:14
Daskreechxixor: the kernel is available through a ppa but you can download any of the packages from http://packages.ubuntu.com once it's available17:15
cancer_Daskreech: if you don't mind, can i paste some result in pm/17:15
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Daskreech!pastebin | cancer17:15
ubottucancer: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.17:15
DaskreechUse the pastebin and put the URL in this chan17:15
cancerDaskreech: How, no browser working.17:16
xixorDaskreech: ok, so that package would probably appear in the quantal branch, right?17:17
Daskreechcancer: where are you pasting it from? the terminal?17:17
cancerjust installed firefox. trying.17:17
Daskreechxixor: correct17:17
xixorDaskreech: one thing I am not clear on, is how I can enable a ppa, and only have that ppa use a few selected packages?17:18
Daskreech!ppa17:20
ubottuA Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge17:20
L3top!pastebinit | cancer17:20
ubottucancer: pastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com17:20
Daskreechxixor: choose correct ppas would be my suggestoin. If you choose a PPA that has a whole lot of files and different kinds of programs then it's probably a bad ppa17:21
DaskreechPPAs should be fairly focused so that those few packages you care about are kept up to date and nothing else is affected17:21
xixorDaskreech: I mean, lets say I add the quantal ppa to grab say, a kernel.  It is going to try to update almost every package on my system17:22
Daskreechxixor: there is no quantal ppa. Thre is a whole quantal system. I would suggest just picking out the kernel package and installing it yourself17:23
xixorDaskreech: ah, I see.  ok, thanks for the advice, that was very helpful.  I am new to how things are done in *buntu17:23
Daskreechxixor: And that only because the kernel has no dependencies17:23
xixorDaskreech: It has no dependencies? I thought it needed headers, and maybe a "tools" package?17:24
Daskreechxixor: anything that has dependencies I'd suggest a PPA focused on just that package17:24
Daskreechxixor: yes but those are easy to get :) maybe 4 in all if that much?17:24
xixorDaskreech: Yeah... it might need intraramfs-tools, a few others17:25
Daskreechxixor: http://packages.ubuntu.com/quantal/linux-image-generic17:25
Daskreechvery few17:25
Daskreechand then if it doesn't work well you can just reboot into your precise kernel again17:26
Daskreechcancer: any better?17:26
cancerhttp://paste.kde.org/483698/17:27
Daskreechcancer: Whee :)17:27
Daskreechcancer: type qdbus and tell me if it throws an error17:27
cancerhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/999395/17:28
DaskreechOk so dbus is working17:28
Daskreechcancer: alt+F2 -> plasma-desktop17:29
cancerDaskreech: how to confirm that i'm logged in a normal kubuntu condition. and believe normal is 'Default' right?17:30
Daskreechcancer: correct17:32
Daskreechcancer: do you have any desktop?17:32
canceronce upon a time....17:32
Daskreechwhat do you have now? A balck screen?17:33
cancernow have an empty desktop. everything gone was once placed.17:33
cancerno.17:33
cancerhave background17:33
cancerDaskreech: i cannot 'right click' Icons in K > Computer > Trash to send them on desktop.17:34
DaskreechAh ok when you right click what do you get?17:35
DaskreechOn the desktop?17:35
cancerit's like 'Right Click' is disabled. nothing showed up.17:35
DaskreechIs there a button in the top right corner you can click on?17:36
cancerYes.17:37
Daskreechcancer: ah hmm does that work and give you the option to ad widgets?17:37
Daskreechadd17:38
canceryes.17:38
canceri can right click on desktop anywhere.17:38
DaskreechI wonder if you changed your desktop to a netbook17:38
Daskreechcan or cannot?17:38
cancercan17:39
canceri think i did not.17:39
Daskreechoh ok17:39
canceranyway lead me there17:39
cancerjust to confirm17:39
Daskreechopen system settings17:40
Daskreechalt=F2 -> system settings17:40
cancernext17:40
DaskreechWorkspace Behaviour -> Workspace -> Desktop drop down17:41
cancerdo i need to run this command 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -f install && sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'17:41
cancerit just hanged17:41
Daskreechcancer: can't hurt17:41
cancercannot open that.17:41
Daskreechcancer: Oh dear. Ok run that command with the exception of replacing the last && with ;17:42
cancerhow i can repair nouveau package.17:42
Daskreechso sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -f install ; sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop17:42
L3topsudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-nouveau17:43
cancerjusta quick reboot, till then who like to see my way.....:D17:47
xixorYo, a quick question.  I have gcc and g++ 4.6 and 4.7 installed on this system.  Anyone know how to make one or the other the default?17:52
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Daskreech!info gcc17:53
ubottugcc (source: gcc-defaults (1.112ubuntu5)): GNU C compiler. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.6.3-1ubuntu5 (precise), package size 4 kB, installed size 41 kB17:53
Daskreechsudo dpkg-reconfigure gcc i would guess17:53
xixorDaskreech: thanks, I will give that a try... I always forget about dpkg-reconfigure17:54
xixorDaskreech: I've installed 3.4.0, seems to work fine... well, it booted anyway.  I need to rebuild the nvidia module though, and it is complaining that the kernel was built with gcc4.7, and I am using gcc4.617:54
Daskreechxixor: Yeah it would ;)17:55
cancerDaskreech: i used remove instead of install from 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-nouveau'. and then reinstalled it. i am sure that made some changes. i also ran some other command related to nouveau from various website found by google. :D17:55
cancerIt's Fine again :)17:56
cancereverthing fine now.17:56
Daskreechcancer: if you want to remove your changes you want sudo apt-get remove --purge17:56
Daskreechbut as long s it's fine :)17:56
xixorhm... dpkg-reconfigure doesn't do it.  I suppose I could overwrite the symlinks myself... but that seems iffy17:56
Daskreechxixor: Not as iffy as you may think :)17:56
Daskreechxixor: Unless you mean you want help with it17:57
cancerDaskreech: but there is still one thing i dont understand, why all the setting i did on desktop was vanished.17:57
Daskreechcancer: I'm not sure I would guess something wrong with a config I can get you back to a default desktop if you like17:58
cancerDefault?18:00
Daskreechcancer: the one you get when you first login18:01
lordievaderHey cancer How are you?18:01
cancerhi, i'm fine. how's about you :)18:01
cancerDaskreech: will that hurt?18:02
lordievadercancer: I'm doing well, how is your linux journey going?18:02
cancerlordievader: just reinstalled it today.18:02
lordievadercancer: I did the samething yesterday ;)18:03
cancerOpss, afraid it's almost time for power down, but only for an hour. hope did didn't happen.18:04
cancerlordievader: for me there wasen18:04
Daskreechcancer: no18:04
Daskreechcancer: in konsole type mkdir ~/plasmabkup ;kquitapp plasma-desktop && sleep 2 && mv ~/.kde/share/config/plasma* ~/plasmabkup && plasma-desktop&18:06
xixorDaskreech: yo... thanks for the help there with 3.4.  I gave up.  I couldn't get the nvidia kernel modules to compile at all, so I am back with lowly 3.2.0-24-generic... :(18:17
Daskreechxixor: did you try symlink it?18:20
Daskreechxixor: another option is just to tell the nvidia script to use gcc 4.7 instead of gcc18:20
xixorDarkwing: yeah, I tried the simlinks.  I didn't try to tell the nvidia script, nor did I try setting some sort of a cc environment variable18:20
Daskreechok18:21
xixorDaskreech: at a certain point, I just didn't want to spend my entire day with something like this :)18:21
xixorDaskreech: I have a lot of aimless internet surfing to do as well18:21
Daskreechxixor: enjoy18:23
xixorDaskreech: anyhoo, thanks for the help today, cheers18:33
DaskreechSure18:34
lordievaderexit18:49
lordievaderclear18:49
lordievaderexit18:49
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Daskreechlordievader: you need / at the start for it to be a command in irc18:53
DaskreechHI BluesKaj19:02
BluesKajhi Daskreech , do i need to make the ntfs partition *boot in order to install windows 7 on it ?19:03
DaskreechBluesKaj: install no19:04
drostieHey guys.19:04
DaskreechThough Windows 7 will surely fight you for it19:04
DaskreechHI drostie19:05
tonksevening all19:05
drostiehihi.19:06
drostiewell, I'll get the ball rolling. Anyone else running precise: if you put an audio CD in the tray and ask K3b to rip it and click "Start ripping," do you get any options other than "Wave" and "Ogg Vorbis"?19:07
Daskreechhi tonks19:08
drostieI remember -- I believe it was in Oneiric -- having many options, including FLAC. Heck, I used it to generate a bunch of flac files and have libflac installed now.19:08
Daskreechdrostie: as long as you have the encoder you can rip to it19:09
drostiebut it seems like the one in the repos doesn't install any plugins.19:09
Daskreechdrostie: you might also look at audiocd:/ in dolphin19:09
BluesKajdrostie, install soundkonverter19:09
Daskreechbut check that you have the flac enc as well as mp3 etc19:10
qbitmaybe needs libk3b6-extracodecs?19:10
drostieahahaha. audiocd:/ is great! XD19:11
drostiesoundkonverter is probably also great. :P19:11
drostieOkay, flac support in K3b doesn't require the 'libflac' etc. packages but the 'flac' package. ^_^;;19:12
tonksjust had a look round for a cd to try my k3b, cant find a single one. the times they are a changin it seems19:12
Daskreechdrostie: Isn't it? Everytime I learn something new in KDE I go "WHY DOESN"T EVERYONE IN THE WORLD USE THIS WONDERFUL BIT OF CODE?!?!"19:12
DaskreechThen my head echos and I have a headakhe and I calm down19:13
drostieDaskreech: because Windows has convinced us that if you open a CD in a file browser you just see useless crap? :P19:13
Daskreechdrostie: Yes but I can open images or archive files or another computer or a website or emails or time itself and it all makes sense. Why does everything else insist on not making sense?19:15
tonksIf I could get wine running reliably i would nail my win7 disc to the neighbours car19:15
BluesKajdrostie, if you don't mind flac conversion on the fly , then try vlc as a player .. i convert all flac files to wav19:16
drostieI had a nasty experience installing wine under kubuntu. Basically, I said "aptitude install wine" and it said, "did you mean... aptitude remove KDE and break everything?!?!" and I was all like, "no! that's retarded! apt-get install wine!" and it was all like, "okay."19:17
Daskreechtonks: To the window?19:17
drostieI think aptitude is broken. :<19:17
tonkslol19:17
Daskreechdrostie: was it april 1st ?19:18
drostieI think precise was released later than April 1st. :P19:18
tonksyeah, ive played around with it numerous times, got it working once, but unreliable, and seemed a bit of a blind shot in the dark, so have to dual boot for my gaming needs19:18
drostieI wasn't a release candidater.19:18
BluesKajaptitude is no longer supported in kubuntu afaik19:18
Daskreech BluesKaj that doesn't mean it doesn't work19:19
BluesKajit' still works but hqas dependency probs19:19
drostieWine works for what I use it for -- an old copy of WZGrapher downloaded before Walter Zorn's site went down.19:19
Daskreechtonks: What version of wine?19:19
drostieSide note: we need a comparably awesome grapher written in Qt. Seriously.19:19
DaskreechWe may have one19:19
tonksDaskreech: I believe 1.319:20
drostieIt's true. I probably know less than 1% of the open-source code written in Qt. :<19:21
drostieI keep trying to learn it and getting confused by the QEverythingEverywhere.19:21
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Daskreechdrostie: Do you do much object coding?19:23
drostieDaskreech: I have but I never really enjoyed it.19:35
drostieDaskreech: I want to learn to Haskell things.19:35
DaskreechLEarn haskell then :)19:36
Daskreechhttp://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Applications_and_libraries/GUI_libraries#HQK might be fun19:37
Guest11406folks19:39
lordievaderHey Guest1140619:40
Guest11406i have a kubuntu box here at work, and we use a win2k3 domain. I want to create a share to windows machines using the ad users19:40
Guest11406i tried the security = ads19:41
Guest11406but something is missing.. i have no idea what can I do19:41
lordievaderGuest11406: Have you installed samba?19:42
Guest11406lordievader, yeap19:42
lordievaderGuest11406: Completely configured?19:43
Guest11406it is installed, i tried to configure it via swat19:43
qbithttp://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/winbind.html19:43
Guest11406huum19:44
lordievaderGuest11406: Or check out the Samba section here: http://www.howtoforge.com/creating-a-home-media-and-file-server-with-ubuntu19:46
DaskreechOR ASK ON #SAMBA19:51
Daskreechwhoops19:51
lordievaderEasy Daskreech easy :P19:51
qbitwinbind is such an ugly beast to set up - might take 3months before you get anything working19:52
qbitI had a few working with Win 2k3 AD - then when we went to 2008 R2 that was that and I just gave up19:54
DaskreechYeah Microsoft tends to change stuff every release19:57
DaskreechThe EU made them document them now so it's better at least19:58
DaskreechGuest11406: I'd still ask on #samba though19:58
qbitit's about to change again with Win 8 and the SMB2 protocol19:58
DaskreechYep and likely again with the service pack for Windows Phone compatibilty19:59
Daskreechas I said though they have to document it by decree now so it's better tahn just guessing in the dark as it was before19:59
qbitbe far easier to just set auth=user, add some accounts to smnpasswd and hand out user/pass access to people in a casual manner20:00
qbiterr make that smbpasswd20:00
qbitwhat I did was locate the shares on the windows servers, config Mac OS X/Linux boxen for access to those, and mounted them as drives20:02
qbitbut that is an end-run around Active Directory20:03
qbittechnically a violation of security policies too, but I don't have all day for one problem...20:05
DaskreechLeave the security fallout headacheto someone else?20:09
qbitlol - let it get lost in the noise20:10
drostietoday I learned that in KDE the whole filesystem gets abstracted, so that transferring from bluetooth and ripping a CD to MP3 and FLAC is done with normal file-copy ops in the normal file manager.20:15
drostieSuddenly all of that wasted RAM kind of makes sense.20:15
Daskreech:-)20:16
DaskreechI generally look at ti this way20:16
DaskreechThere are shared bits of logic that get loaded that make things work very well across the entire system that would be horribly difficult and even more expensive if they were not shared20:17
Daskreechhowever the downside is many people don't make use of them and quite a few don't even know they exist20:17
lordievaderIm not really following the convo, what are you guys talking about?20:18
Daskreechlordievader: audiocd:/ in dolphin20:18
lordievaderI see20:19
sam__#minecraft20:27
Daskreechlordievader: and hence the entire KIO system20:27
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brian__hi21:01
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brian__quien sabe trabajar con kubuntu?21:03
lelamal!es | brian__21:07
ubottubrian__: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.21:07
L3topbrian__: como se di se sabe en Engles?21:24
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xixorYo, I am using kubuntu 12.04, but using Xmonad as a WM, not KDE, but I mainly run KDE apps.  I am trying to get xdg-open to set the correct action for inode/directory types.  I have it set to dolphin.desktop, but xdg-open never seems to find this.  Anyone have any advice as to how I can see where xdg-open is determining the database of mime types?23:44

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