[00:15] <ebreiss> I have a question about the dictionary widget in Kubuntu 12.04. whe I try and use the widget, it seems that it does not accept the query when I type the enter key. Is there a setting somewhere I should change?
[00:38] <Daskreech> ebreiss: does it ever accept the query?
[00:40] <ebreiss> daskreech
[00:40] <ebreiss> I can type the query in, but it doesn't do anything when I do the actual search.
[01:10] <dbc254> uninstalled k3b because of errors. Tried to apt-get and it's trying to overwrite KDE with Gnome desktop which fried my install once already . HELP!
[01:11] <dbc254> is there something other than k3b that'll do this?
[01:27] <cancer> L3top: hey
[01:28] <cancer> Am i logged in?
[01:29] <L3top> yes... you are... hi cancer
[01:29] <cancer> Hi, nice to see you :)
[01:31] <cancer> L3top: can you help me with 'Backtrack'. i want to know how to install it. i heard it needs seperate partition. but i got this link as well. need you kind advice. :)
[01:31] <cancer> http://www.kartook.com/2009/12/how-to-install-backtracktools-on-ubuntu/
[01:32] <L3top> !backtrack
[01:32] <cancer> L3top: 'backtrack' individualy installed or tool within ubuntu mean same right?
[01:35] <cancer> L3top: == Cannot send to channel: #backtrack-linux ?
[01:36] <cancer> for each of my msg that reply showed up.
[01:37] <L3top> yes, you show up muted. I do not know the specifics of their rules.
[01:37] <L3top> read the header
[01:37] <cancer> Ok
[01:38] <cancer> L3top: will i be able to logged in with quassel. i'm currently using Xp.
[01:39] <L3top> I am in there in quassel
[01:40] <cancer> L3top: Ok, i think i should switched to kubuntu
[01:40] <cancer> be right back :)
[01:43] <L3top> I wait with baited breath.
[01:44] <cancer> Back.
[01:44] <cancer> !backtrack
[01:45] <cancer> L3top: now trying with quassel.
[01:50] <cancer> L3top: i don't think quassel is working fine for me. can you please once more check if my msg's are visible there. :|
[01:52] <L3top> cancer... 1 this is not a kubuntu support issue. 2 I told you to read their rules, you have to register before you can speak there...
[01:52] <L3top> its all in the header
[01:53] <cancer> ah ok. will that need to open email to confirm ID.
[01:53] <cancer> registration*
[01:57] <IdleOne> !register | cancer
[01:57] <IdleOne> cancer: yes you need to use a valid email address, not one of them throw-away ones
[02:13] <robstark> ls *
[02:13] <robstark> stupid irc
[02:13] <robstark> ls * | less
[02:15] <Daskreech> robstark: what are you doing?
[02:17] <cancer> (/msg nickserv register <password> <email>) just need to choose nickserv"nick" & do i need to use those angels brackets around password and email
[02:17] <robstark> Nothin just bored lol
[02:17] <robstark> I was pretendin to try to get a channel list
[02:18] <cancer> and where to paste that command?
[02:21] <L3top> Registration help available by typing /join #freenode
[02:23] <renosis> I was just wondering if there is any kind of tutorial that shows the features of the kubuntu desktop and how to use it?
[02:24] <renosis> Things like how to setup the Widgets and Panels, some cool features or tips?
[02:25] <Daskreech> cancer: No You don't the <> means replace with something
[02:25] <L3top> renosis: like this? http://userbase.kde.org/Tutorials
[02:26] <renosis> L3top, yes thank you! That is lovely... I couldn't find anything like that at kubuntu.org!
[02:26] <Daskreech> renosis: Someone had a youtube channel with that. I don't remember it right now though :(
[02:27] <renosis> Daskreech: Ah, I'll search Youtube too, thanks!
[02:36] <Daskreech> renosis: I'd hesitate on a here is how you do thigns in KDE though
[02:36] <Daskreech> That's a nice tidy way to blow a lifetime. There are lots of ways to do lots of things
[02:38] <renosis> Daskreech, ah noted, I am just gonna find some good ones, had my brother install and I want him to know how to use it so he doesn't ask me
[02:39] <Daskreech> ha ha. Point him to this room
[02:41] <cancer> daskreech: i'm stuck in #freenode. can't find anystaff
[02:41] <Daskreech> renosis: What does your brother use the computer for?
[02:41] <renosis> Oh I will... but I want him to learn some stuff so he can at least wait till he is really stumped before asking
[02:41] <Daskreech> cancer: what are you trying to do?
[02:42] <renosis> he wants to use it for Music production and he is sick of Windows XP
[02:42] <cancer> register. and just now maybe i got the staff.
[02:43] <renosis> he has this DSP latency problem that causes crackles in his music and he also worries that the computer will crash during a show
[02:43] <Daskreech> cancer: Did you speak with nickserv ?
[02:43] <Daskreech> renosis: ha ha ok well Kubuntu is an interesting place to start but you may want to push him towards a music distro once he's settled in
[02:44] <renosis> he says he heard linux was stable, I gave him Ubuntu Studio first.... but he said the interface was too ugly, looked like the 80s
[02:44] <renosis> hehe
[02:45] <renosis> He also tried Linux Mint, but didn't like that either
[02:45] <Daskreech> Ha ha Well Does he like Kubuntu ?
[02:45] <renosis> ya!
[02:45] <renosis> so far so good, he got really frustrated today trying to setup his proprietary soundcard drivers... m-audio delta 1010lt
[02:46] <Daskreech> renosis: ask in #also
[02:46] <Daskreech> #alsa
[02:46] <renosis> he isn't so good at the terminal, I was hoping he could find everything he needed using the repo
[02:47] <renosis> ah, they have a channel?
[02:48] <Daskreech> Yes they do
[02:48] <renosis> I plan to go over there tomorrow and help him do the installation and I will definitely stop in if I can't get it either
[02:48] <Daskreech> UNless he's using jack
[02:48] <Daskreech> What version of Kubuntu are you using?
[02:49] <renosis> 12.04
[02:50] <Daskreech> ok
[02:52] <renosis> I just got the KDE 4.8 Update, nice
[02:53] <Daskreech> :-)
[02:53] <Daskreech> Wait till KDE 4.9!! :)
[02:53] <renosis> heh
[02:57] <renosis> Time for sleep, nice talking to you Daskreech, be seeing you around
[02:58] <kernelcruncher> 12.04 I keep getting a tray popup about stuff I need to make apps work better, can I remove this?
[03:10] <Daskreech> kernelpanic: Which apps?
[04:40] <cancer> !backtrack
[04:41] <cancer> L3top: you there?
[04:43] <L3top> Not for backtrack support I'm not...
[04:54] <cancer> L3top: i wasn't calling for that. just was forced by emotions, caused by that channel :D phew...
[04:55] <L3top> What can I do for you then?
[05:01] <cancer> L3top: sorry, it seem you are offended.
[05:01] <cancer> any help about running virtual box inside kubuntu? :)
[05:02] <L3top> I am not... I was offering to help you. Hard to detect tone in text sometimes.
[05:02] <L3top> What issues are you having with it?
[05:05] <linuxjones> is facial recognition gone as a login option now?
[05:09] <Daskreech> Not with LDM I think
[05:21] <cancer> L3top: sorry i was with 3 channels asking solution. just this left now.
[05:23] <cancer> how to check how much space kubuntu is using?
[05:23] <L3top> df -h
[05:23] <cancer> is 20Gb enough for Kubuntu?
[05:23] <Daskreech> Free? yes
[05:24] <cancer> nope, with installed.
[05:24] <Daskreech> If you have /home on a different partition then yes
[05:24] <cancer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/998515/
[05:24] <Daskreech> if not then ... maybe if you are diligent
[05:25] <cancer> Daskreech: i have installed xp too. i am practicing on kubuntu. so don't save in it partition.
[05:26] <cancer> Daskreech: is that showing 33Gb?
[05:29] <cancer> I want to seperate 10Gb from it to install bt-5.
[05:31] <cancer> !patience
[05:33] <Daskreech> cancer: 27 GB
[05:33] <Daskreech> 33 GB is in total. You are using 13% of it and you have 27 GB available
[05:34] <Daskreech> cancer: you can take 10 Gb and then you will have 17 GB free
[05:34] <cancer> Daskreech: then i believe 17 will be enough after seperating ten from it.
[05:34] <cancer> that's enough right?
[05:34] <Daskreech> cancer: If you are not using it yes
[05:34] <L3top> You don't want to max it out... but yes.
[05:36] <cancer> L3top: i don't use to save data in kubuntu parition. i have other partitions for that purpose and for installing more kubuntu related apps i think 17 will be enough.
[05:37] <cancer> Daskreech: using it in the above described way. whats you point now?
[05:38] <Daskreech> cancer: hmm?
[05:38] <Daskreech> What's my Point?
[05:40] <cancer> ah, just ensuring about usage i described
[05:41] <cancer> Ok. i want to creat 10 gb partition. How please?
[05:41] <Daskreech> apt-get install partitionmanager
[05:43] <cancer> Daskreech: just to confirm, is it the command to launch dolphin with root? 'kdesudo dolphin' ?
[05:43] <cancer> just learned yesterday.
[05:45] <cancer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/998529/ <<< is that all fine. just curious about line six with word FAKE?
[05:46] <Daskreech> cancer: kdesudo dolphin is correct
[05:46] <Daskreech>  you can type that into krunner
[05:47] <Daskreech> cancer: that's fine
[05:47] <Daskreech> !info fakeroot
[05:47] <cancer> Daskreech: thanks. partition manager is running and partition is locked?
[05:47] <Daskreech> It's a program to test if something is possible as root without actually taking on the privileges
[05:48] <Daskreech> cancer: You cannot edit a partition that's in use. i.e. you can't be on the file sysme you are diting
[05:48] <Daskreech>  normally people will edit the hard drive partition from another drive or from a live environment
[05:48] <cancer> that
[05:48] <Daskreech>  Live environment is best since obviously you are not using any hard drive
[05:49] <cancer> that's mean i will not be able to resize it?
[05:49] <Daskreech> Not while you are using it
[05:50] <cancer> :( then how to do it.
[05:50] <cancer> any tool.
[05:51] <cancer> i'm afraid to do it from windows xp.
[05:52] <Daskreech> cancer: how did you install kubuntu ?
[05:52] <cancer> Daskreech: i created the partition from XP.
[05:53] <cancer> but afraid to resize it from the same software. afraid to lose installed kubuntu.
[05:53] <Daskreech> cancer: What did yuo use to install kubuntu?
[05:53] <cancer> Cd
[05:54] <cancer> i burned ISO to CD.
[05:55] <Daskreech> cancer: Ok boot with the Cd in the CD drive and it should start from teh Cd
[05:55] <Daskreech> It will ask you if you want ot install kubuntu or try kubuntu
[05:56] <Daskreech>  click try kubuntu and it will boot to a desktop
[05:56] <cancer> hmm
[05:56] <Daskreech> Just run partitionmanager there and you can join back here
[05:56] <Daskreech>  we will help you thorugh the resizing
[05:56] <cancer> OK.
[05:58] <cancer> i'll be back, cause it's just time for power down here for an hour.
[06:00] <cancer> Daskreech: | L3top: again many thanks for help & patience. See ya :)
[06:00] <Daskreech> is that you will be back in an hour?
[06:00] <Daskreech>  or you will be back now?
[06:00] <Daskreech> then have to leave for an hour?
[06:01] <cancer> ah, that's another philosophy behind my words some related to grammer and some to thoughs. so some time what i meant to say wasn't what i actually meant. can't explain it like that.
[06:03] <Daskreech> :-)
[06:03] <Daskreech>  Ok
[06:04] <Daskreech> well when you are ready boot from the CD and click Try kubuntu then you can come back here and go through the partition resize
[06:07] <saeed> hi
[06:08] <saeed> i want to write a new widget by QML for kde
[06:09] <saeed> how can i find list of application that install in my kubuntu
[06:09] <saeed> for listing in my widget
[06:12] <susundberg> saeed: you can find list of the applications installed via package manager
[06:13] <susundberg> saeed: see for example dpkg --list
[06:13] <saeed> i want use list of install app in my widget
[06:14] <susundberg> i am not sure is that really a good idea to do widget for that, but who am i to judge ..
[06:16] <Daskreech> saeed: What is the point of hte plasmoid?
[06:18] <saeed> i dont
[06:19] <saeed> i want to write LanchPad
[06:19] <saeed> when use this
[06:20] <saeed> lanchpad show me list of install software in my kubuntu
[06:21] <Daskreech> Ah ok
[06:21] <saeed> how can i do it??
[06:22] <Daskreech> #launchpad may be of help
[06:22] <Daskreech>  other than that man dpkg
[06:22] <saeed> ok
[06:22] <saeed> tnx
[06:44] <jussi> can someone remind me on where to configure the corner actions? ie. when I mouse into a corner of the screen?
[06:45] <jussi> ahh never mind... I finally found it...
[07:15] <cancer> Dashkreech: hey.
[07:16] <cancer> Partition Manager is running, i'm waiting for your command. do i select the partition and click on Resize/Move.
[07:19] <NoiseChancellor> Hey, I'm new to this whole linux business, so I figured I'd just ask: Will kernel 3.4 and GIMP 2.8 be available through the standard (k)ubuntu repositories at some point in the next few weeks or should I look into a) wether I really need/want them and b) how to get whichever version I'd like on my own?
[07:20] <cancer> #backtrack-linux
[07:23] <NoiseChancellor> cancer: you mean ask in that channel? I'm honestly lost as to what goes where sometimes
[07:24] <cancer> NoiseChancellor: i'm sorry that wasn't for you. i was trying to open that channel by command. :)
[07:25] <cancer> NoiseChancellor: Questions about Kubuntu should be asked here.
[07:25] <cancer> !patience
[07:28] <NoiseChancellor> cancer: I looked on the web, but I didn't quite learn why the repos seem to not have the latest releases. I just liked some of the features in the changelogs and want to know if/when the new versions will be available through the repositories.
[07:28] <NoiseChancellor> Either way, gotta run. Bye
[07:29] <cancer> bye :)
[07:29] <cancer> !repos | NoiseChancellor
[07:30] <cancer> !kernel | NoiseChancellor
[07:30] <cancer> !GIMP | NoiseChancellor
[07:30] <cancer> :D
[07:40] <Daskreech> cancer: yes
[07:40] <Daskreech> resize it to be 10 GB smaller
[07:41] <Daskreech> then you will have 10 GB of free space
[07:41] <Daskreech> click that and make a new partition
[07:45] <cancer> Daskreech: thanks i have resized it afterspace 11 gb.
[07:45] <cancer> space after*
[07:45] <cancer> click ok. and going to click APPLY
[07:48] <cancer> Daskreech: http://imagebin.org/213222
[07:54] <cancer> Alas; no reply
[08:17] <jussi> I installed "kde-telepathy" but How does one launch it?
[08:18] <jussi> oh for the second time, never mind... I always seem to ask after looking for ages, and then find it
[08:42] <Tm_T> jussi: rubberduck (:
[10:07] <jussi> Is it pssible to set custom actions for active screen edges? ie.others than those on the list?
[11:32] <cancer> Daskreech: hi
[11:36] <cancer> Daskreech: i actually lost OS (Kubuntu). i dunno why partition manager stucked at 66% and mouse was difficult at that time to move. so just reinstalled kubuntu. new partition is created anyway. i know will manage that partition in XP.
[11:57] <marco> ciao a tutti
[11:57] <marco> !list
[11:58] <Tm_T> marco: welcome to #kubuntu, he official support channel of Kubuntu linux desktop
[12:06] <bomber> hello
[12:07] <bomber> I have a usb drive and for some reason when it mounts i only have read access to it. Is there someone that can help me get read write access to it
[12:07] <bomber> ?
[12:22] <allee> bomber: that's the developer channel.  Please ask on #kubuntu
[12:23] <IdleOne> bomber: were you using it in Windows previously and didn't cleanly unmount it?
[12:24] <IdleOne> if so, reboot to windows and "safely remove drive" or whatever it is that Windows calls it.
[12:43] <bomber> IdleOne,  I dont use windows..... The drive is strictly used with this system
[13:27] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[13:30] <L3top> hola
[13:53] <monkeylab> how do u get minecraft on ubuntu
[13:53] <monkeylab> it has blackscreen
[13:54] <lordievader> Good afternoon
[13:54] <monkeylab> minecraft has blackscreen on ubuntu 12.04 LTS i need help!
[13:55] <lordievader> monkeylab: Do you have graphics drivers installed?
[13:55] <monkeylab> Idk...
[13:55] <monkeylab> what do i need?
[13:55] <john__> monkeylab, have you already tried this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1812767
[13:55] <lordievader> monkeylab: Depends, what kind of gfx card do you have?
[13:55] <L3top> monkeylab: lspci -nn | grep VGA
[13:56] <monkeylab> i have an acer aspire one but idk what the gfx card is...
[13:56] <monkeylab> doesnt tell me...
[13:56] <lordievader> monkeylab: Run the command L3top told you.
[13:56] <monkeylab> kk thx
[13:56] <lordievader> monkeylab: That will show you what gfx card you have.
[13:57] <monkeylab> this is what i have:  Intel Corporation Mobile 945GSE Express Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:27ae] (rev 03)
[13:58] <L3top> monkeylab: sudo apt-get install i965-va-driver
[13:58] <john__> btw, can anyone else get flash to work on ff/chromium on 12.04?
[13:58] <L3top> yes john__
[13:58] <lordievader> john__: Flash works fine here.
[13:59] <monkeylab> didnt work came up with this:
[13:59] <monkeylab> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[13:59] <john__> i get ABORT: X_CopyArea problems
[13:59] <monkeylab> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[13:59] <maco> monkeylab: did you use sudo?
[13:59] <monkeylab> yeah
[13:59] <maco> monkeylab: and do you have another package manager already open?
[13:59] <maco> ex: muon, adept, kpackagemanager...
[13:59] <monkeylab> i have libre office base installing
[14:00] <maco> thats it then
[14:00] <maco> you cant run apt-get while another install's already going
[14:00] <monkeylab> ill cancel it
[14:01] <monkeylab> and what is the best linux server os?  i just got a server and need a operating system...
[14:03] <lordievader> monkeylab: Ubuntu server is quite okay... got it running on two boxes, (true both are not really a server)
[14:04] <monkeylab> i was thinking unbreakable linux but got the wrong version of it...  i have a dell T110 any ideas?
[14:04] <maco> i use ubuntu server on my vps. debian is also a good stable serve
[14:04] <maco> *server
[14:05] <monkeylab> cool, ill use ubuntu server then
[14:05] <maco> i do stick to LTS releases on my server though
[14:05] <monkeylab> could it host minecraft servers? (only requirement)
[14:05] <maco> that just takes java, right?
[14:06] <monkeylab> yeah
[14:06] <maco> sure
[14:06] <monkeylab> alright cool
[14:07] <john__> i'm trying to find out some more info about the "xid collision: trouble ahead" issue, does anyone have any experience with it?
[14:09] <lordievader> Does anyone know where the wallpaper config files are kept? Probably somewhere in ~/.kde/share/config but there are many files....
[14:12] <john__> its just /usr/share/wallpapers
[14:13] <lordievader> john__: I mean the config file. Not the actual location of the wallpapers. I want to be able to change those settings with a bash script.
[14:13] <monkeylab> bye
[14:13] <monkeylab> gtg'
[14:18] <john__> lordievader try plasma-appletsrc
[14:18] <john__> in the config folder[
[14:18] <john__> u'll also need plasma-desktop-appletsrc
[14:19] <john__> and plasma-desktoprc
[14:19] <john__> all in ~/.kde/share/config
[14:21] <lordievader> john__: Thx I think I found it.
[14:21] <john__> lordievader np
[15:03] <Daskreech> cancer: Ok Sorry to hear.
[15:21] <lapka> всем ку!
[15:22] <Unit193> !ru
[16:12] <monkeylab> minecraft still doesnt work on ubuntu because of blackscreen, i am running it with Open JDK 7, and i have the correct drivers, any suggestions?
[16:15] <monkeylab> help?
[16:21] <Daskreech> monkeylab: With ?
[16:21] <Daskreech> What happens when you try to start it? Also how are you starting it?
[16:22] <Daskreech> monkeylab: I don't know if it will help but there is a #minecraft channel on freenode. Has a number of people on it but no idea how responsive they are
[16:24] <cancer> !nouveau
[16:26] <Daskreech> hi cancer
[16:27] <Daskreech> Got your message
[16:27] <Daskreech> Sorry that you lost the install
[16:27] <cancer> Daskreech: hi
[16:27] <cancer> Daskreech: that was meant to happen, no one know abt future.:) anyway i am again stuck in a situation.
[16:28] <Daskreech> Which i?
[16:29] <cancer> Daskreech: i cannot operate rekonq. when i execute it, it does open but some graphic issues with it. whole boundary and inner surface of rekonq remain grey. i even can't connect to internet without it.
[16:29] <Peace-> cancer: use firefox
[16:31] <cancer> Daskreech: Actually 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' was running and power suddenly gone. then i restarted it and also used '--fix-missing' with that command.
[16:32] <cancer> Peace-: i don't believe that firefox will work as well. it's some graphic issue maybe. few apps hangs when i try to run them.
[16:32] <Peace-> cancer: run them on konsole
[16:32] <Peace-> cancer: they should say something
[16:32] <Peace-> cancer: video card?
[16:32] <Peace-> lspci | grep -i Vga
[16:32] <Daskreech> Peace-: broken upgrade
[16:33] <Peace-> ah
[16:33] <Peace-> :D
[16:33] <Daskreech> cancer: can you run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade now ?
[16:34] <cancer> Daskreech: yes, but it will start from begenning.
[16:36] <cancer> Peace-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/999316/
[16:36] <Peace-> cancer: first of all you need to do what Daskreech has said
[16:37] <Peace-> a broken upgrade = broken stuff = shit computer
[16:37] <Peace-> ;:D
[16:37] <cancer> Daskreech: | Peace-: yes, that already on it way.
[16:38] <cancer> Peace-: haven't seen yet =**** computer :-p
[16:42] <cancer> Daskreech: i'm tried to spend time on linux introduction. that's hard to manage but i'll try to arrange little time for it daily.
[16:43] <cancer> Daskreech: Command work finished.
[16:43] <phoenix_firebrd> hello everyone
[16:44] <cancer> hi
[16:44] <phoenix_firebrd> cancer: hi
[16:45] <cancer> :)
[16:45] <cancer> !patience | cancer
[16:45] <cancer> :D
[16:46] <phoenix_firebrd> i am trying to backup the akonadi backup, the backup app says that mysqldump is not installed, so i tried to install it, but couldn't find the package in the repository, there was package called mydumper, i installed it and tried again but no use
[16:48] <cancer> phoenix_firebrd: i don't know akonadi, but if you are talking about website backup then that can be done from site CP.
[16:49] <phoenix_firebrd> cancer: pim backup
[16:49] <cancer> phoenix_firebrd: sorry no idea.
[16:49] <phoenix_firebrd> cancer: do you know which package contains mysqldump
[16:49] <cancer> wait
[16:51] <cancer> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[16:51] <Daskreech> cancer: Great :) Still having issues?
[16:51] <cancer> be right back in 5 mins.
[16:51] <Daskreech> !find mysqlpdump
[16:52] <Daskreech> !find mysqldump
[16:52] <phoenix_firebrd> Daskreech: i think i found it
[16:52] <phoenix_firebrd> Daskreech: thats it
[16:52] <phoenix_firebrd> Daskreech: mysql-client
[16:52] <Daskreech> phoenix_firebrd: mysql-client
[16:52] <Daskreech> There you go
[16:53] <Daskreech> cancer: Let me know what you want to learn when you come back
[16:54] <cancer> Daskreech: unfortunately back SOON :D
[16:55] <Daskreech> Normally people are happy when cnacer doesn't come back soon
[16:56] <cancer> :-p
[16:56] <Daskreech> :-)
[16:56] <cancer> cnacer, they are even afraid to spell it right :p
[16:56] <Daskreech>  I'll be happy to see you again don't worry :)
[16:56] <Daskreech> Yeah I know people whocall it BigC
[16:57] <phoenix_firebrd> the backup was successful
[16:57] <cancer> Daskreech: ok, never take me wrong. newbie for english/linux/and ..... let me think.
[16:58] <cancer> don't want to say....
[16:58] <cancer> i think i must try a reboot, haven't done yet.
[16:58] <cancer> almoxarife: hey :)
[16:58] <Daskreech> cancer: alright.
[16:59] <cancer> brb:D Time...
[17:04]  * Daskreech waves
[17:05] <Daskreech> Hey Everyone look who came back!
[17:05] <cancer> hi :)
[17:05] <cancer> :D
[17:06] <xixor> yo, just a quick question, for curiosities sake: will kubuntu 12.04 get the 3.4 kernels?  or will that be saved for the 12.10 release?  I am fairly new to *buntu, just wondering how often kernels get updated, cheers
[17:06] <almoxarife> any thoughts on how to remove a package from the apt database which does not remove via normal means?
[17:06] <cancer_> Daskreech: same issue.
[17:07] <cancer_> how to update nouveau.
[17:07] <lelamal> xixor: no kernel upgrades until 12.10, but just security updates
[17:07] <Daskreech> xixor: they will not unless you get a backport or a ppa
[17:07] <Daskreech> cancer_: update teh kernel. What's the issues ?
[17:08] <xixor> lelamal, Daskreech : ok, thanks, good to know
[17:08] <cancer_> Daskreech: i think graphics lib or what ever it is got to update.
[17:09] <xixor> Daskreech, lelamal : if I did say, want to compile 3.4 myself, would it be possible to use the exact same config that was used in 12.04 when they compiled their kernel?  I know there would be a lot of things I wouldn't need compiled, but the ubuntu kernel detected all my hardware without a glitch, so if I were to compile my own kerenl, I'd like to use the same settings
[17:09] <cancer_> Daskreech: browser ain't working, so please paste the command to update nouveau...
[17:09] <Daskreech> cancer_: What does the browser not working mean?
[17:10] <Daskreech> xixor: If you want to wait a few weeks they will have the kernel in +1 and you can just grab that
[17:11] <cancer_> everything i save to desktop and icons files are gone. can't even open dolphin. when ever i try that, it only force close....
[17:11] <cancer_> browser ain't showing it's pockets to put money. no money no trade :(
[17:11] <Daskreech> cancer_: Oh dear. Can you open konsole?
[17:12] <cancer_> Sure, konsole/quassel are only working fine.
[17:12] <Daskreech> from konsole type dolphin
[17:12] <xixor> Daskreech: ok, what is +1 ?
[17:13] <cancer_> dolphin window still not appeared. still no sign of it.
[17:14] <Daskreech> Kubuntu+1 The next version going to be released
[17:14] <xixor> Daskreech: so are those packages available through a ppa then?
[17:15] <Daskreech> xixor: the kernel is available through a ppa but you can download any of the packages from http://packages.ubuntu.com once it's available
[17:15] <cancer_> Daskreech: if you don't mind, can i paste some result in pm/
[17:15] <Daskreech> !pastebin | cancer
[17:15] <Daskreech> Use the pastebin and put the URL in this chan
[17:16] <cancer> Daskreech: How, no browser working.
[17:17] <xixor> Daskreech: ok, so that package would probably appear in the quantal branch, right?
[17:17] <Daskreech> cancer: where are you pasting it from? the terminal?
[17:17] <cancer> just installed firefox. trying.
[17:17] <Daskreech> xixor: correct
[17:18] <xixor> Daskreech: one thing I am not clear on, is how I can enable a ppa, and only have that ppa use a few selected packages?
[17:20] <Daskreech> !ppa
[17:20] <L3top> !pastebinit | cancer
[17:21] <Daskreech> xixor: choose correct ppas would be my suggestoin. If you choose a PPA that has a whole lot of files and different kinds of programs then it's probably a bad ppa
[17:21] <Daskreech> PPAs should be fairly focused so that those few packages you care about are kept up to date and nothing else is affected
[17:22] <xixor> Daskreech: I mean, lets say I add the quantal ppa to grab say, a kernel.  It is going to try to update almost every package on my system
[17:23] <Daskreech> xixor: there is no quantal ppa. Thre is a whole quantal system. I would suggest just picking out the kernel package and installing it yourself
[17:23] <xixor> Daskreech: ah, I see.  ok, thanks for the advice, that was very helpful.  I am new to how things are done in *buntu
[17:23] <Daskreech> xixor: And that only because the kernel has no dependencies
[17:24] <xixor> Daskreech: It has no dependencies? I thought it needed headers, and maybe a "tools" package?
[17:24] <Daskreech> xixor: anything that has dependencies I'd suggest a PPA focused on just that package
[17:24] <Daskreech> xixor: yes but those are easy to get :) maybe 4 in all if that much?
[17:25] <xixor> Daskreech: Yeah... it might need intraramfs-tools, a few others
[17:25] <Daskreech> xixor: http://packages.ubuntu.com/quantal/linux-image-generic
[17:25] <Daskreech> very few
[17:26] <Daskreech> and then if it doesn't work well you can just reboot into your precise kernel again
[17:26] <Daskreech> cancer: any better?
[17:27] <cancer> http://paste.kde.org/483698/
[17:27] <Daskreech> cancer: Whee :)
[17:27] <Daskreech> cancer: type qdbus and tell me if it throws an error
[17:28] <cancer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/999395/
[17:28] <Daskreech> Ok so dbus is working
[17:29] <Daskreech> cancer: alt+F2 -> plasma-desktop
[17:30] <cancer> Daskreech: how to confirm that i'm logged in a normal kubuntu condition. and believe normal is 'Default' right?
[17:32] <Daskreech> cancer: correct
[17:32] <Daskreech> cancer: do you have any desktop?
[17:32] <cancer> once upon a time....
[17:33] <Daskreech> what do you have now? A balck screen?
[17:33] <cancer> now have an empty desktop. everything gone was once placed.
[17:33] <cancer> no.
[17:33] <cancer> have background
[17:34] <cancer> Daskreech: i cannot 'right click' Icons in K > Computer > Trash to send them on desktop.
[17:35] <Daskreech> Ah ok when you right click what do you get?
[17:35] <Daskreech> On the desktop?
[17:35] <cancer> it's like 'Right Click' is disabled. nothing showed up.
[17:36] <Daskreech> Is there a button in the top right corner you can click on?
[17:37] <cancer> Yes.
[17:37] <Daskreech> cancer: ah hmm does that work and give you the option to ad widgets?
[17:38] <Daskreech> add
[17:38] <cancer> yes.
[17:38] <cancer> i can right click on desktop anywhere.
[17:38] <Daskreech> I wonder if you changed your desktop to a netbook
[17:38] <Daskreech> can or cannot?
[17:39] <cancer> can
[17:39] <cancer> i think i did not.
[17:39] <Daskreech> oh ok
[17:39] <cancer> anyway lead me there
[17:39] <cancer> just to confirm
[17:40] <Daskreech> open system settings
[17:40] <Daskreech> alt=F2 -> system settings
[17:40] <cancer> next
[17:41] <Daskreech> Workspace Behaviour -> Workspace -> Desktop drop down
[17:41] <cancer> do i need to run this command 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -f install && sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'
[17:41] <cancer> it just hanged
[17:41] <Daskreech> cancer: can't hurt
[17:41] <cancer> cannot open that.
[17:42] <Daskreech> cancer: Oh dear. Ok run that command with the exception of replacing the last && with ;
[17:42] <cancer> how i can repair nouveau package.
[17:42] <Daskreech> so sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -f install ; sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[17:43] <L3top> sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
[17:47] <cancer> justa quick reboot, till then who like to see my way.....:D
[17:52] <xixor> Yo, a quick question.  I have gcc and g++ 4.6 and 4.7 installed on this system.  Anyone know how to make one or the other the default?
[17:53] <Daskreech> !info gcc
[17:53] <Daskreech> sudo dpkg-reconfigure gcc i would guess
[17:54] <xixor> Daskreech: thanks, I will give that a try... I always forget about dpkg-reconfigure
[17:54] <xixor> Daskreech: I've installed 3.4.0, seems to work fine... well, it booted anyway.  I need to rebuild the nvidia module though, and it is complaining that the kernel was built with gcc4.7, and I am using gcc4.6
[17:55] <Daskreech> xixor: Yeah it would ;)
[17:55] <cancer> Daskreech: i used remove instead of install from 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-nouveau'. and then reinstalled it. i am sure that made some changes. i also ran some other command related to nouveau from various website found by google. :D
[17:56] <cancer> It's Fine again :)
[17:56] <cancer> everthing fine now.
[17:56] <Daskreech> cancer: if you want to remove your changes you want sudo apt-get remove --purge
[17:56] <Daskreech> but as long s it's fine :)
[17:56] <xixor> hm... dpkg-reconfigure doesn't do it.  I suppose I could overwrite the symlinks myself... but that seems iffy
[17:56] <Daskreech> xixor: Not as iffy as you may think :)
[17:57] <Daskreech> xixor: Unless you mean you want help with it
[17:57] <cancer> Daskreech: but there is still one thing i dont understand, why all the setting i did on desktop was vanished.
[17:58] <Daskreech> cancer: I'm not sure I would guess something wrong with a config I can get you back to a default desktop if you like
[18:00] <cancer> Default?
[18:01] <Daskreech> cancer: the one you get when you first login
[18:01] <lordievader> Hey cancer How are you?
[18:01] <cancer> hi, i'm fine. how's about you :)
[18:02] <cancer> Daskreech: will that hurt?
[18:02] <lordievader> cancer: I'm doing well, how is your linux journey going?
[18:02] <cancer> lordievader: just reinstalled it today.
[18:03] <lordievader> cancer: I did the samething yesterday ;)
[18:04] <cancer> Opss, afraid it's almost time for power down, but only for an hour. hope did didn't happen.
[18:04] <cancer> lordievader: for me there wasen
[18:04] <Daskreech> cancer: no
[18:06] <Daskreech> cancer: in konsole type mkdir ~/plasmabkup ;kquitapp plasma-desktop && sleep 2 && mv ~/.kde/share/config/plasma* ~/plasmabkup && plasma-desktop&
[18:17] <xixor> Daskreech: yo... thanks for the help there with 3.4.  I gave up.  I couldn't get the nvidia kernel modules to compile at all, so I am back with lowly 3.2.0-24-generic... :(
[18:20] <Daskreech> xixor: did you try symlink it?
[18:20] <Daskreech> xixor: another option is just to tell the nvidia script to use gcc 4.7 instead of gcc
[18:20] <xixor> Darkwing: yeah, I tried the simlinks.  I didn't try to tell the nvidia script, nor did I try setting some sort of a cc environment variable
[18:21] <Daskreech> ok
[18:21] <xixor> Daskreech: at a certain point, I just didn't want to spend my entire day with something like this :)
[18:21] <xixor> Daskreech: I have a lot of aimless internet surfing to do as well
[18:23] <Daskreech> xixor: enjoy
[18:33] <xixor> Daskreech: anyhoo, thanks for the help today, cheers
[18:34] <Daskreech> Sure
[18:49] <lordievader> exit
[18:49] <lordievader> clear
[18:49] <lordievader> exit
[18:50] <Unit193> /
[18:53] <Daskreech> lordievader: you need / at the start for it to be a command in irc
[19:02] <Daskreech> HI BluesKaj
[19:03] <BluesKaj> hi Daskreech , do i need to make the ntfs partition *boot in order to install windows 7 on it ?
[19:04] <Daskreech> BluesKaj: install no
[19:04] <drostie> Hey guys.
[19:04] <Daskreech> Though Windows 7 will surely fight you for it
[19:05] <Daskreech> HI drostie
[19:05] <tonks> evening all
[19:06] <drostie> hihi.
[19:07] <drostie> well, I'll get the ball rolling. Anyone else running precise: if you put an audio CD in the tray and ask K3b to rip it and click "Start ripping," do you get any options other than "Wave" and "Ogg Vorbis"?
[19:08] <Daskreech> hi tonks
[19:08] <drostie> I remember -- I believe it was in Oneiric -- having many options, including FLAC. Heck, I used it to generate a bunch of flac files and have libflac installed now.
[19:09] <Daskreech> drostie: as long as you have the encoder you can rip to it
[19:09] <drostie> but it seems like the one in the repos doesn't install any plugins.
[19:09] <Daskreech> drostie: you might also look at audiocd:/ in dolphin
[19:09] <BluesKaj> drostie, install soundkonverter
[19:10] <Daskreech> but check that you have the flac enc as well as mp3 etc
[19:10] <qbit> maybe needs libk3b6-extracodecs?
[19:11] <drostie> ahahaha. audiocd:/ is great! XD
[19:11] <drostie> soundkonverter is probably also great. :P
[19:12] <drostie> Okay, flac support in K3b doesn't require the 'libflac' etc. packages but the 'flac' package. ^_^;;
[19:12] <tonks> just had a look round for a cd to try my k3b, cant find a single one. the times they are a changin it seems
[19:12] <Daskreech> drostie: Isn't it? Everytime I learn something new in KDE I go "WHY DOESN"T EVERYONE IN THE WORLD USE THIS WONDERFUL BIT OF CODE?!?!"
[19:13] <Daskreech> Then my head echos and I have a headakhe and I calm down
[19:13] <drostie> Daskreech: because Windows has convinced us that if you open a CD in a file browser you just see useless crap? :P
[19:15] <Daskreech> drostie: Yes but I can open images or archive files or another computer or a website or emails or time itself and it all makes sense. Why does everything else insist on not making sense?
[19:15] <tonks> If I could get wine running reliably i would nail my win7 disc to the neighbours car
[19:16] <BluesKaj> drostie, if you don't mind flac conversion on the fly , then try vlc as a player .. i convert all flac files to wav
[19:17] <drostie> I had a nasty experience installing wine under kubuntu. Basically, I said "aptitude install wine" and it said, "did you mean... aptitude remove KDE and break everything?!?!" and I was all like, "no! that's retarded! apt-get install wine!" and it was all like, "okay."
[19:17] <Daskreech> tonks: To the window?
[19:17] <drostie> I think aptitude is broken. :<
[19:17] <tonks> lol
[19:18] <Daskreech> drostie: was it april 1st ?
[19:18] <drostie> I think precise was released later than April 1st. :P
[19:18] <tonks> yeah, ive played around with it numerous times, got it working once, but unreliable, and seemed a bit of a blind shot in the dark, so have to dual boot for my gaming needs
[19:18] <drostie> I wasn't a release candidater.
[19:18] <BluesKaj> aptitude is no longer supported in kubuntu afaik
[19:19] <Daskreech>  BluesKaj that doesn't mean it doesn't work
[19:19] <BluesKaj> it' still works but hqas dependency probs
[19:19] <drostie> Wine works for what I use it for -- an old copy of WZGrapher downloaded before Walter Zorn's site went down.
[19:19] <Daskreech> tonks: What version of wine?
[19:19] <drostie> Side note: we need a comparably awesome grapher written in Qt. Seriously.
[19:19] <Daskreech> We may have one
[19:20] <tonks> Daskreech: I believe 1.3
[19:21] <drostie> It's true. I probably know less than 1% of the open-source code written in Qt. :<
[19:21] <drostie> I keep trying to learn it and getting confused by the QEverythingEverywhere.
[19:23] <Daskreech> drostie: Do you do much object coding?
[19:35] <drostie> Daskreech: I have but I never really enjoyed it.
[19:35] <drostie> Daskreech: I want to learn to Haskell things.
[19:36] <Daskreech> LEarn haskell then :)
[19:37] <Daskreech> http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Applications_and_libraries/GUI_libraries#HQK might be fun
[19:39] <Guest11406> folks
[19:40] <lordievader> Hey Guest11406
[19:40] <Guest11406> i have a kubuntu box here at work, and we use a win2k3 domain. I want to create a share to windows machines using the ad users
[19:41] <Guest11406> i tried the security = ads
[19:41] <Guest11406> but something is missing.. i have no idea what can I do
[19:42] <lordievader> Guest11406: Have you installed samba?
[19:42] <Guest11406> lordievader, yeap
[19:43] <lordievader> Guest11406: Completely configured?
[19:43] <Guest11406> it is installed, i tried to configure it via swat
[19:43] <qbit> http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/winbind.html
[19:44] <Guest11406> huum
[19:46] <lordievader> Guest11406: Or check out the Samba section here: http://www.howtoforge.com/creating-a-home-media-and-file-server-with-ubuntu
[19:51] <Daskreech> OR ASK ON #SAMBA
[19:51] <Daskreech> whoops
[19:51] <lordievader> Easy Daskreech easy :P
[19:52] <qbit> winbind is such an ugly beast to set up - might take 3months before you get anything working
[19:54] <qbit> I had a few working with Win 2k3 AD - then when we went to 2008 R2 that was that and I just gave up
[19:57] <Daskreech> Yeah Microsoft tends to change stuff every release
[19:58] <Daskreech> The EU made them document them now so it's better at least
[19:58] <Daskreech> Guest11406: I'd still ask on #samba though
[19:58] <qbit> it's about to change again with Win 8 and the SMB2 protocol
[19:59] <Daskreech> Yep and likely again with the service pack for Windows Phone compatibilty
[19:59] <Daskreech> as I said though they have to document it by decree now so it's better tahn just guessing in the dark as it was before
[20:00] <qbit> be far easier to just set auth=user, add some accounts to smnpasswd and hand out user/pass access to people in a casual manner
[20:00] <qbit> err make that smbpasswd
[20:02] <qbit> what I did was locate the shares on the windows servers, config Mac OS X/Linux boxen for access to those, and mounted them as drives
[20:03] <qbit> but that is an end-run around Active Directory
[20:05] <qbit> technically a violation of security policies too, but I don't have all day for one problem...
[20:09] <Daskreech> Leave the security fallout headacheto someone else?
[20:10] <qbit> lol - let it get lost in the noise
[20:15] <drostie> today I learned that in KDE the whole filesystem gets abstracted, so that transferring from bluetooth and ripping a CD to MP3 and FLAC is done with normal file-copy ops in the normal file manager.
[20:15] <drostie> Suddenly all of that wasted RAM kind of makes sense.
[20:16] <Daskreech> :-)
[20:16] <Daskreech> I generally look at ti this way
[20:17] <Daskreech> There are shared bits of logic that get loaded that make things work very well across the entire system that would be horribly difficult and even more expensive if they were not shared
[20:17] <Daskreech> however the downside is many people don't make use of them and quite a few don't even know they exist
[20:18] <lordievader> Im not really following the convo, what are you guys talking about?
[20:18] <Daskreech> lordievader: audiocd:/ in dolphin
[20:19] <lordievader> I see
[20:27] <sam__> #minecraft
[20:27] <Daskreech> lordievader: and hence the entire KIO system
[21:01] <brian__> hi
[21:03] <brian__> quien sabe trabajar con kubuntu?
[21:07] <lelamal> !es | brian__
[21:24] <L3top> brian__: como se di se sabe en Engles?
[23:44] <xixor> Yo, I am using kubuntu 12.04, but using Xmonad as a WM, not KDE, but I mainly run KDE apps.  I am trying to get xdg-open to set the correct action for inode/directory types.  I have it set to dolphin.desktop, but xdg-open never seems to find this.  Anyone have any advice as to how I can see where xdg-open is determining the database of mime types?