[06:13] Would anyone know how to build a image to flash to an android device?? I want to lean aboutthe boot proccess of the droidx and how i could make a native ubuntu install for it. [06:14] DrivenMad: depends on the device [06:16] DrivenMad: please address the channel unless it's actually a *personal* message (like "you smell like rotten fish") [06:16] ohh sorry [06:16] No problem. [06:16] I know from doing diffrent rooting from the original droid, droidx , and an hp tablet. they are diffrent.. something about parts of it still being locked somehow?? [06:17] I'm not familiar with droidx, but you probably want to look for references for droix and "omap3" [06:17] *droidx [06:18] Note that rooting is not the same as reflashing; "rooting" typically implies you keep the vendor's kernel and ramdisk, and only change/supplement the userland. [06:18] ok cool :) i ahve been reading about omap3 and the diffrent versions of arm (arm7) cpus.. [06:18] correct, i do understand that :) [06:19] If you wait patiently, one of the smarter denizens will probably tell you exactly what to do [06:19] im lost on how i would even start to flashing something else. maybe a custom sbf file or something.. i have an extra original droid just screaming for something crazy on it :) [06:19] awesome thank you for t your thoughts:) [06:21] I have been watching some of the ubuntu for android videos.. super awesome!! looks like it will be based for the newer dual cpu devices.. [06:21] DrivenMad: you can't have "ubuntu for andriod" is for vendors, not consumers. You can't have it unless you buy a phone that already has it. [06:22] i would like to take the droid and make it even jsut a terminal to remote to.. to use the resources on the phone... heck there is anough to run a CS server on one of them.. i just have to get around any latency from wifi, unless i can get somekind of usb to ethernet adapter working on it :) [06:23] True.. [06:24] DrivenMad: you can build a rootfs to run inside a chroot, it's the widest used method, you can find plenty of guides on google [06:24] I figure if it accually comes out, someone will figure out a port of some sort.. i hope :) or I will learn enough to try :) [06:26] DrivenMad, you can use my rootstock branch https://code.launchpad.net/~angeloc/project-rootstock/project-rootstock to start with ubuntu-core [06:26] DriveMad, intead of building the rootfs from scratch [06:26] I have run ubuntu on the original droid in a chroot enviroment, i even got backtrack running on the droid and my hp touchpad. The trick i want to figure out is to add better support for the wifi and bluetooth in the base. [06:26] awesome!!! thank you very much!! [06:27] Wow fantastic!!! [06:29] DrivenMad, i think there is nothing you can do for wireless and bluetooth support into a chroot, a chroot is a restricted world! [06:32] angeloc: chroot is not very restrictive. in x86-land there are ways around it, dunno if it'd work or be worth the hassle in an android environment [06:33] hehe true thats what i found out :) you are basically restrained by the original kernel.. although i have played with some wifi drivers and rebooted.. sometimes it broke it, sometimes it worked.. i acually had the wifi doing monitor mode 2 times, ran kismet very well. then after anotehr reboot broken again.. :( [06:33] brb food :) [06:34] DrivenMad, twb, loading a wireless driver into a chroot seems wired to me ... [06:35] angeloc: meh, if you ask to modprobe something, the kernel will execute the modprobe outside the chroot &c &C [06:35] an indirect modprobe I mean [06:35] twb, never tried, but intresting! [06:36] twb, of course modprobe should not be in a cherrot env [06:38] Well, chroot is not a security measure [06:38] If you want that you should probably be looking at LXC [06:49] waht is lxc? [06:50] ahh tools :) [06:51] LXC is like chroot, but more. [06:51] hehe i see .. chroot on steroids :) [06:51] As well as changing the root of the VFS, it can also virtualize the process tree, the network stack, etc. === LetoTheII is now known as LetoThe2nd === calculu5 is now known as calculus