=== meetingology` is now known as meetingology [06:59] good morning [07:01] Evening dholbach :) [07:03] hey benonsoftware [07:43] hey dpm [07:44] morning dholbach! [07:44] welcome back! Had a good time off? [07:45] czajkowski: Is that really a rabit? Looks like somebody has crossed a pug with a rabbit [07:45] yes - I got loads of stuff done at home, went out on Saturday night and yesterday we had a barbecue in the park with loads of people - it was great [07:45] how about you? did you have a good weekend? [07:47] yeah, had a good one too, great fun with some people who came from Barcelona :) [08:01] DJones: pug and rabbit [08:03] czajkowski: Thats what I thought [10:28] Ping mhall119 :) === head_v is now known as head_victim [10:29] s-fox: A bit too early for him, but he should pong when he gets back [10:39] nigelb, I know it is early. I am counting on a pong back. :) [10:39] s-fox: Good plan! [10:44] How was your weekend nigelb ? [10:44] s-fox: Busy :) [10:44] Running a conference next week. [10:46] On? [10:48] s-fox: contentless pings suck - tell him what you want then he can answer straight away when he comes back ;) [10:50] jussi, it is not I who wants an answer ;) And my answer to his question is longer than a single line. haha :) [10:51] jussi: aye I came back to 5 over the weekend [10:51] s-fox: sysadmin! [10:51] nigelb, neat [10:54] hi czajkowski [10:55] jussi: hows you? [10:55] czajkowski: work work work and do not shirk :P [10:55] Im good though [10:56] cant wait to move into my own place again though [11:15] hey czajkowski , settled into your new place yet? [11:16] s-fox: yup last week was fun coming back from uds and trying to unpack stuff had to re do most things [11:18] hey czajkowski can you confirm receipt of my email to the ubuntu-membership-boards list ? [11:18] hmm leemie see I expired [11:18] when did you send it [11:19] you should have got it as you are a member of the community council [11:19] * s-fox checks date [11:19] ah is this re your nomination for boards [11:19] then yes ack [11:19] may 11th :) [11:19] i requested confirmation of receipt as my email has been playing up lol [11:19] thank you czajkowski [11:19] np [11:55] s-fox: pong [12:07] dpm: Are you around with a query on a bug assignment? [12:08] DJones, I'm around, I'm not sure I'm the best person to answer, but I'll do my best [12:10] Cheers, according to an email I've just received, you've assigned bug 1002264 to me [12:10] Launchpad bug 1002264 in ubuntu-translations ""Musique" application name incorrectly translated to "Music"" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1002264 [12:11] Possibly you#ve allocated it to the wrong person as I've not had anything to with the application or bugs in that way [12:11] DJones: everyone on the team got the mail [12:11] DJones: not just you [12:12] DJones: you must be on ubuntu-l10n-eng@lists.ubuntu.com [12:12] Ah, that makes sense then, I hadn't realised it went to everyone, I suddenly panicked when I saw that [12:12] No worries then [12:15] DJones, no worries. Generally, when there is a localization bug that can be solved by fixing a translation in Launchpad, we assign it to the corresponding translation team to correct that particular translation. So I assigned it to the en-gb team, of which you are a member. As czajkowski was mentioning, everyone in the team gets notified [12:17] Thanks for clarifying, I was suddenly thinking I'd need to learn packaging very quickly [13:58] dholbach: you are awesome [13:58] really? what did I do this time? [13:58] did you listen to my new mix? :-P [13:58] your sponsorship stuff [13:59] I totally ripped it off [13:59] ah, glad you like it :) [13:59] we should be up and running by today [13:59] fantastic [13:59] writing that script was a ....... night mare :) [13:59] * balloons is listening to the new dholbach mix :-0 [14:00] :-)) [14:00] * snap-l is listening to Dio [14:00] Which is latin for dholbach [14:00] dholbach: what do you do for community follks? [14:00] do they not get assigned days? [14:01] dholbach: new mix is great! [14:01] jcastro, we discussed this at UDS, but we didn't come to a good conclusion yet - some thought it might be a good idea, others felt it was too much of a commitment to do it regularly - I still dunno [14:01] thanks czajkowski [14:01] ah ok [14:01] that won't be a problem then [14:02] dholbach: what's your current time commitment per person per month? [14:02] snap-l, I never had Latin in school - Google Translate says "open"? :) [14:02] jcastro, 4h/month [14:02] we accumulated the 1h/week commitment into one 4h shift per month [14:03] many felt they'd be more efficient that way [14:04] dholbach: Try Italian. :) [14:04] that'll teach me to confuse my romance languages. [14:05] that's too much :) [14:06] Ronnie James dholbach [14:06] * dholbach got lost somewhere along the way :) [14:06] Dimebag dholbach [14:07] jcastro, ^ is he saying I should get a haircut? [14:08] nah [14:08] your hair is pretty metal already [14:08] \m/ [14:09] ok, I got totally lost - nevermind me [14:09] * dholbach makes a cup of tea [14:13] hi dholbach [14:13] hey AlanBell [14:13] can we get an a11y tag section added to harvest? [14:14] AlanBell, bdmurray runs the scripts which spit out bug lists for Harvest [14:15] would you like to just add all bugs tagged as 'a11y'? [14:15] I think so, it looks like the opp.list stuff is based on tags [14:15] no [14:16] harvest will get data from whatever is listed in http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~harvest-dev/harvest-data/trunk/view/head:/opportunities [14:16] some of them are based on bug tags, but others come from all kinds of other places as well [14:17] so if bdmurray sets up a script do spit out the data, we can add it to this list of data feeds [14:18] ok, I will find bdmurray, I am trying to work out what it is I need to be asking for :) [14:19] I can see that ftbfs stuff in harvest is tagged ftbfs, I kind of want it to be like that [14:19] the more specific we can make those lists the better [14:21] http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/txisb/top_10_ubuntu_app_downloads_for_april_2012/ upboat time! [14:22] heh, dpm must have posted at the same time I did [14:22] Very cool to see Uplink getting some love. [14:22] I swear I refreshed before I submitted [14:23] mhall119, lol, no worries, generally I submit to all networks just after I write the top 10 posts, we should better coordinate next time [14:24] I put it on the FB page for Ubuntu [14:26] mhall119, I upvoted.. I didn't see the upboat button [14:29] bummer, the site is slowing down again due to the traffic [14:32] loads of traffic isn't a bummer [14:32] are we not heavily caching on there? [14:32] it is not per se, it is when those people cannot reach the site [14:32] but it seems it isn't too bad [14:33] hmm, there are some wordpress cache plugins we should consider then [14:33] jcastro: what did you and marco end up using for WP caching on OMG' [14:33] ? [14:35] mhall119, the juju charm has the goods in it now [14:35] supercache I think? [14:35] marcoceppi: ^^ [14:35] is developer.u.c using wordpress? [14:36] yeah [14:36] Are you using nginx or apache? [14:36] nginx is great for serving static content quickly. [14:37] apache probably [14:37] and does some built-in caching [14:37] (at least it can. :) ) [14:38] jcastro, yes, using wordpress [14:39] This is what I use for Open Metalcast's PHP config: [14:39] http://paste.mitechie.com/show/bco3krlPe6nP0QEvJfho/ [14:39] marcoceppi: we should probably backport things to the wordpress charm soon [14:39] so people can actually use it, heh [14:39] IS set up a cache a while ago already, as when we were getting high traffic it used to be a lot worse, but I don't know the tech details [14:39] scaling wordpress is stupidly hard [14:40] you'd think "oh how hard can it be, it's just some LAMP stuff." [14:40] Hi jcastro [14:40] jcastro: Try scaling movable type sometime [14:40] movable type can output static pages though right? [14:40] It can, but getting it to run multiple sites is a bitch. [14:43] anyway, if you could help us spread the word by RT'ing https://twitter.com/#!/ubuntuappdev/status/204574586946338817 on FB, the Ubuntu App Developers G+ page, reddit and everywhere else, that'd be awesome! [14:43] * jcastro does so [14:44] * snap-l does the lemming [14:44] s-fox: ping [14:44] technoviking, pong [14:45] s-fox: closed user feedback thread on new theme, was getting kinda flaky:) [14:45] flamy [14:45] Not everyone is a fan of the new look technoviking :) [14:45] dpm: http://askubuntu.com/questions/140259/developer-tools-pascal do we have any process for translating questions in AU? [14:46] I think people will just bitch to hear their heads roar. [14:46] snap-l: +1 [14:46] personally I'm really liking the updated forums theme [14:47] Personally I hated the old theme. That it was also on the forums was like adding napalm to gasoline. [14:47] I think it looks awesome now [14:48] mhall119, not that I know it. That's the main bit that I'd like to be added to AU: a multilingual site. I'm sure more LoCos would use it if it were in their language. That said, for development questions I think it's ok for it to be in English, and on this particular one he (or someone else) also added the translation [14:48] i18n is on their roadmap [14:48] but not anytime soon [14:49] they know we want it but it's hard for them, they're not built with localization in mind like we are [14:49] so right now people are just translating the occasional question like that [14:50] http://ubuntu.shapado.com/ is multilingual [14:50] but it's pretty ugly, doesn't look fun to use whatsoever [14:58] nice to see the askubuntu bot working on #ubuntu-app-devel [15:01] jcastro: there is also http://ask.ubuntu-pe.org/ [15:01] jokerdino: you did that iirc? [15:01] which is spanish only I think [15:02] jcastro: amithkk made the bot. [15:02] oh [15:03] I thought we wanted that integrated with the existing IRC bot? [15:03] amithkk wanted to run this as an experiment to sort out problems. he promised to contribute the code to ubottu as a plugin or something. [15:06] ah ok, perfect, that's awesome [15:07] can I get a hook up on #juju? [15:07] yeah it is done as well [15:07] nice! You guys are on the ball! [15:07] jcastro: http://meta.askubuntu.com/questions/3179/how-about-adding-rss-feeds-for-certain-tags-in-irc-channels [15:07] did jono say anything that he wasn't going to be around today? [15:07] was wondering about community tag. [15:08] dholbach: not that I've heard [15:08] jokerdino: let's try it! [15:08] mhall119, ok, thanks [15:08] dholbach, I planned on getting my stuff approved this afternon [15:08] it is monday and still early in PST :-) [15:09] jcastro: alright, i think he is afk now. will ping him when he comes back. [15:09] balloons, yep, it's just that our meeting started 9 minutes ago :) [15:09] also, the askubuntu twitter feed is working fine in #2buntu as another experiment. [15:09] :-( [15:09] I'll survive :) [15:09] mhall119, would be happy to pretend to be jono [15:09] I'm sure he'll turn up any minute [15:09] so, if that one is cool, we can throw it in the support room. [15:10] balloons, great idea - mhall119: can you go and approve my blueprints? :) [15:10] "I think you need to flesh that out a bit more Daniel" [15:10] dholbach: your BPs have to many work items for mhall119, please re-assign them all to balloons [15:10] then I'll approve [15:10] haha [15:11] nice - that's the community spirit we better not encourage elsewhere [15:11] lol === jcastro changed the topic of #ubuntu-community-team to: Work Items: http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/canonical-community.html || Don't forget to "flesh them out a little bit" || Community Trello: http://goo.gl/n4or5 (experiment) || Things to work on (in order): work items || dpm's channel: http://goo.gl/o2IR5 [15:11] :) [15:12] haha [15:12] ahahah [15:12] I am fired [15:12] jcastro, nobody will notice [15:12] * mhall119 is going to flush out those work items [15:12] http://theoatmeal.com/comics/flesh_vs_flush [15:14] good morning [15:16] bkerensa, top of the morning to ya [15:16] jcastro: actually i was a little worried about putting up bots everywhere.. [15:16] ok [15:17] * jokerdino should stop crashing the community team meeting. ;) [15:17] * bkerensa waits for FedEx to arrive with System76 Lemur Ultra [15:17] jokerdino, no meeting right now [15:17] <-- caffeine break [15:18] dholbach: smoke if you got em! [15:19] bkerensa, did you see the new laptop system76 came out with yesterday? [15:20] balloons: yeah I need to get them to send me it soon... I sent out a e-mail this week :) [15:20] morning* [15:20] * bkerensa needs caffeine [15:24] oh, no meeting yet? [15:25] when do we have the fix it friday going again? it was fun when it was around.. :) [15:26] jokerdino, soon again [15:26] jokerdino, we'll talk about it in the next motu meeting on thursday [15:26] awesome. thanks!! [15:27] time to take the back seat :S [15:28] hey jono [15:28] hey dholbach [15:28] sorry I missed our call, my phone died in the middle of the night so my alarm didnt wake me up :-( [15:30] no worries [15:30] jcastro, mhall119 dholbach .. good jono missed our conversation.. he'll never know now that jorge changed the topic, or I made fun of him, and mhall119 pretended to be him . . . [15:30] splitters! [15:30] jono, you've got to do something - I don't know why the others hate me so much - they tried to give me all their work items!1! [15:31] jcastro: I agree [15:31] I'll start today [15:31] dholbach, I will try and intervene [15:31] thanks - I hope it will be sufficiently dramatic [15:31] dpm, all set? [15:32] dholbach, are you going to be around in 30? [15:32] yes [15:32] dholbach, cool, we can review BPs then [15:32] cool [15:33] marcoceppi: welcome back pneumonia guy! [15:33] ouch, he was on pneumonia? [15:34] dholbach: that's not true [15:34] jono: hey, I have friday off, so we'll have to have my weekly call earlier as well if you want to review BPs earlier [15:34] I tried to give balloons all my work items :) [15:34] jcastro, yeah, lets do it later today [15:34] dpm? [15:34] jono, sorry, yeah, all set [15:34] :-) [15:34] slacking as usual [15:34] mhall119, tried? my inbox is flooded with "blueprint" changed emails.. clear abuse of summit powers.. [15:34] :-) [15:35] balloons: Launchpad power [15:35] if I had abused my summit powers, you'd have chaired all my sessions too [15:35] Launchpad Spam: Making people look busy since 2005 [15:35] I'm with dholbach jono -- these guys are just too mean [15:36] file a bug [15:36] balloons, eh? [15:36] * mhall119 will mark it "Won't Fix" [15:36] you guys don't look serious, i am calling sabdfl. [15:36] mhall119 won't fix mhall119 [15:36] there's nothing to fix :) [15:38] bkerensa: ping me when you're around pls [15:38] jcastro: ping [15:38] jcastro: it's good to be back [15:53] argh, why can we only have 5 tags on a question in AU? [15:54] if you're using 5 it's probably too many [15:55] jcastro: but I want to tag all my AU question with "Ubuntu, question, help" and then 3 specific to the question tags! [15:56] firefox question [15:56] greg-g, you might have forgotten "sos" and "eternal-gratitude" in your list [15:56] "free-hugs" too [15:56] dholbach: ah, right, thanks buddy! [15:56] :-) [15:56] behold, community tag is incoming. [15:57] dpm: dholbach: balloons: mhall119: do any of you have your BPs approved yet? [15:58] mhall119: 5 tags is not enough? o.O [15:58] jcastro: not me, waiting on my turn with jono [15:58] jcastro, just stuff outside the community track [15:58] jokerdino: not when there were already 5, and I wanted to add one more [15:58] which one? [15:58] choose the best tag then. [15:58] and you seem to be a **fast** typer. [15:58] I wanted to tag one as 11.10 [15:58] ok who is lined up to have their BPs approved first? [15:58] I want to check them afterwards to see how close I am. :) [15:59] Ba dam tiss [15:59] close to what? [15:59] Its on [15:59] mhall119: I want to see how mine look in relation to yours [15:59] amithkk: there is no bot here.. [15:59] jcastro: mine are all taller and better looking [15:59] O.o [15:59] I need to determine if I've underachieved my BPs or if I got Planella'ed [15:59] jcastro, Plannella'ed for sure [15:59] lol [16:00] aucommunity: Protected by Community blocks answer [closed] || Are there ubuntu meetups being held to discuss and fix bugs? || How to say "Thanks" to the Ubuntu developers? [closed] yeah [16:00] I was mhall'ed [16:00] what does that even mean? [16:00] balloons: hahaha [16:00] amithkk: ok, so after that one they'll come in one at a time? As they're tagged community? [16:00] Yeah [16:00] balloons: is mhall119 assigned all your BPs? [16:00] It refreshes every minute now [16:00] mhall119: it means doing something, thinking your awesome, and then you see what dpm did and you want to cry. [16:00] that means he got tons of summit work items mhall119 [16:01] jcastro: ah yes, that [16:01] cjohnston: I only got like 3 summit work items [16:01] I was smart this time [16:01] three explicitly assigned to you.. plenty more that you will be picking up [16:01] in theory [16:02] dholbach, ok, lets roll [16:02] let's do it [16:02] * dpm hugs jcastro [16:02] that's so not true [16:02] heh [16:03] mhall119, made me cry [16:03] Isn't the UDS over? [16:03] s/want to// and it's true [16:03] speaking of awesome hair, gmb post our pics somewhere? [16:03] amithkk: UDS may be over, but the work lives on [16:03] good point I haven't seen them, no [16:03] I saw dholbach's light-meter stand in shot [16:03] that's all [16:04] amithkk: uds is where the work comes from for the coming cycle [16:14] does anyone know what can could be causing the long delays from posts from d.u.c to appear in the planet? I still can't see the top 10 apps blog post in there [16:18] does the planet feed pull everything, or just posts with certain tags? [16:19] mhall119: what ever feed you add in [16:19] mhall119: it pulls everything from the feed you give it [16:19] and some people give it a tag feed [16:19] * czajkowski must look at her feed again it's all messed up and only posting summaries [16:19] even though summary box is not ticked [16:20] http://developer.ubuntu.com/tag/planetubuntu/feed/ [16:20] "The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to maintenance downtime or capacity problems. Please try again later." [16:20] may be why? [16:20] czajkowski: AlanBell: yeah, I was asking dpm what we're feeding it [16:20] mhall119: ah ok thought it was more genereal [16:21] popey: that would do it [16:22] we've got a tag feed [16:23] so I guess the rule is: post it, wait until it reaches the planet, and then post to social networks? [16:24] yeah, the feed is still struggling [16:46] alrightie - see you tomorrow! [17:01] mhall119, all set? [17:02] yup [17:05] mhall119, hangout sent [17:05] I'm trying to load it, it keeps timing out [17:05] * mhall119 is really starting to hate google hangouts [17:07] jono: one minute, it's making me re-install the plugin [17:07] mhall119: happens me from time to time, restarting chrome fixes it [17:09] mhall119, I think it's you, not the machine [17:10] dammit, still failing [17:10] time to try firefox [17:10] proprietary crap :P :P [17:11] +1 [17:11] firefox fails too :( [17:12] jono: I'm going to reboot my laptop, maybe one of my updated packages that required a restart actually does require a restart :) [17:12] if we get the house we applied for we will have 1st world internet again! :D [17:12] mhall119, np [17:14] (1st world internet == ~200 Megabits...) [17:16] jussi: bragger [17:16] greg-g: hey, Im just happy... :D [17:17] greg-g: I might take the cheap option and get the 100mbit version though :) [17:18] although Im not sure it will be fast enough :P :P :P [17:18] jussi: psst, greg-g lives in a city with such speeds on our cellphones (woo 4g!) [17:19] pleia2: so? as I said, Im just happy :D (IM coming from ~2mbits) [17:19] :) [17:19] I love that jussi has 25x the amount of bandwidth available to him as the expensive option [17:19] and 12.5x as the cheap option [17:20] pleia2: actually I think Im more happy about the possibility of getting a home again... [17:20] indeed! [17:20] living with the mother in law sucks tbh [17:20] jussi: at least that option was avilable to you so hush up life is good again for you [17:20] pleia2: can't tether on 4g for very long before they put you at dialup speed, and my actual internet connection is about 6mbit :( I want monkeybrains, but we're in a dead zone [17:21] greg-g: sprint is actually unlimited :) [17:21] pleia2: If you can get 4G [17:21] of course the usb dongle I have from them only does 3G in linux :\ [17:21] iirc, we have 4g here also - not sure of the state of it though [17:21] Apparently Detroit is akin to a third world country in that regard. [17:23] pleia2: which dongle? [17:23] they offer some huawei here [17:23] jussi: not sure offhand [17:24] pleia2: yeah, I'm on Virgin (I'm cheap) and they cut you down after 2.5 gigs now (used to be 5) [17:24] and, Virgin doesn't have 4g access to sprint's towers yet [17:24] greg-g: Ting does, in certain markets [17:24] Detroit not being one of them [17:24] snap-l: :) [17:25] but Cinci / Cleveland / Parma do [17:25] (screw Ohio) [17:25] snap-l: I think I might offload this phone to Carrie and move to Ting ;) [17:25] greg-g: lmk when you do, I get referrals. [17:25] ahh, cool [17:26] uh oh, Ting just lost some points. I'm running Fx Nightly (15.0a1, build from last night) and I get this on every ting.com page: [17:26] my only complaint is that the wifi on this Samsung Galaxy S 2 Epic 4G is that the wifi is about half what it was on the iPhone [17:26] "We want to make sure you have an outstanding Ting experience. We are not able to deliver that with your current browser settings. Please consider visiting us again using the latest version of Internet Explorer, Firefox, Chrome, Safari, or Opera with JavaScript enabled. " [17:27] (and yeah, JS is enabled) [17:27] greg-g: Post it to their forums [17:28] they're very responsive [17:33] snap-l: https://help.ting.com/entries/21460753-website-user-agent-scraping-is-wrong [17:35] Asked for it to be answered. :) [17:35] NIce thing is you _will_ get an answer. [17:36] And not the usual "blow it out your arse" answer. [18:02] jono: I got an update for my calendar, we going now? [18:02] jcastro, update? [18:02] jcastro, I dont see an update in my cal [18:02] jcastro, I was just about to hop back on with mhall119 [18:02] jcastro, lets sync later when I am finished with balloons [18:03] oh ok [18:03] jono: oh lol, our old meeting is still in the calendar [18:03] nm me [18:04] :-) [18:04] mhall119, ok, firing back up [18:05] calendar proliferation, my worst nightmare [18:05]