[00:04] <MrChrisDruif> Thanks ^_^
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[05:43] <pitti> Good morning
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[06:06]  * micahg wonders if this patch is still necessary: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/quantal/gimp/quantal/view/head:/debian/patches/03_gimp.desktop.in.in.patch
[06:09] <pitti> micahg: we don't install it by default any more; if it's our only remaining patch, I'd say dump it
[06:10] <micahg> pitti: no
[06:10] <micahg> pitti: not the only one, doesn't seem to need any work, but will keep in mind if we get the diff down further
[06:13] <didrocks> good morning
[06:13] <pitti> bonjour didrocks
[06:13] <didrocks> guten morgen pitti. How are you?
[06:14] <pitti> didrocks: I'm quite fine, thanks! had a rather relaxing weekend
[06:14] <pitti> how about you?
[06:15] <didrocks> good :) nice week-end as well here. Not a lot of outside activity due to the weather, so more video games :)
[06:16] <pitti> didrocks: I saw your plus post
[06:16] <pitti> we had gorgeous sunny weather here, long walks, ice cream, and gardening
[06:17] <didrocks> waow, I hope I'll have the same by the end of week: the family is visiting :)
[06:33] <rickspencer3> pitti, is there a wiki  page that describes the 12.04.1 team duties?
[06:33] <rickspencer3> also, good morning ;)
[06:33] <pitti> hey rickspencer3
[06:34] <pitti> rickspencer3: I don't know, I'm afraid; I haven't been involved in those discussions this time
[06:34]  * rickspencer3 sends "wake up" vibes to seb128
[06:34] <rickspencer3> hmmm, not working
[06:38] <didrocks> good morning rickspencer3 :)
[06:39] <rickspencer3> hi didrocks
[06:44] <smspillaz> didrocks: are we good to switch over lp:compiz?
[06:45] <didrocks> smspillaz: yeah, still on email catchup and finishing the (too early) morning pings, then on that with you, ok?
[06:45] <smspillaz> sure
[06:45] <RAOF> Good $TIMEOFDAY, all !
[06:46] <pitti> hey RAOF
[06:46] <pitti> rickspencer3: btw, did you notice that http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/testing/quantal_probs.html only has one package which is even NBS? i. e. we are basically at zero probs :)
[06:46] <rickspencer3> pitti, I just saw that the list had only 1 thing
[06:46] <rickspencer3> niiiiice
[08:00] <Laney> morning!
[08:00] <pitti> hey Laney, how are you?
[08:00] <Laney> great thank you: nice relaxing weekend which included going climbing :-)
[08:00] <Laney> what about you?
[08:00] <pitti> oh, nice!
[08:01] <pitti> we mostly enjoyed the summer weather: long walks, some gardening, lots of ice cream :)
[08:01] <pitti> and I finished reading The Hunger Games
[08:02] <Laney> ah, some of my friends have read that one too
[08:04] <chrisccoulson> good morning everyone
[08:12] <chrisccoulson> sigh @ https://launchpadlibrarian.net/105649631/buildlog_ubuntu-quantal-amd64.firefox_13.0~b4%2Bbuild1-0ubuntu2%2Btest4_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz :(
[08:12] <chrisccoulson> timed out whilst linking
[08:12] <chrisccoulson> nice!
[08:16] <didrocks> hey Laney, chrisccoulson!
[08:19] <seb128> hey
[08:24] <pitti> bonjour seb128, ca va?
[08:24] <pitti> hey chrisccoulson
[08:24] <seb128> hey pitti, ca va bien ! how about you ? had a good w.e ?
[08:25] <seb128> how did your sister moving go ?
[08:25] <pitti> seb128: indeed I had; we enjoyed the summer weather, with long walks, gardening, and ice cream
[08:25] <pitti> seb128: and I finished reading "The Hunger Games"
[08:25] <pitti> seb128: moving> yes, that went alright, that was on Thursday
[08:26] <pitti> I returned at 0:30, was a bit tired on Friday :)
[08:26] <seb128> hehe
[08:26] <seb128> pitti, how was the book? ready to see the movie next? ;-)
[08:26] <pitti> seb128: I actually missed the movie
[08:26] <pitti> seb128: I enjoyed it, but it's fairly predictable
[08:27] <pitti> it's a book for young folks, after all
[08:27] <pitti> and it's not in the same league as Harry Potter
[08:27] <pitti> server reboot, brb
[08:29] <pitti> re
[08:31] <pitti> seb128: btw, can you please subscribe to https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-release if you aren't already?
[08:31] <didrocks> salut seb128!
[08:31] <pitti> seb128: mostly for the weekly desktop team status messages, and Kate announcing freezes and milestone coordinatino
[08:31] <seb128> pitti, I'm not, doing that, thanks for pointing it
[08:31] <seb128> didrocks, lut, bon w.e?
[08:31] <didrocks> seb128: bien bien, et toi? ;)
[08:31] <seb128> didrocks, nickel
[08:31] <seb128> though we didn't have summer weather like pitti here
[08:32] <seb128> rather rain, sun alternances
[08:32] <didrocks> same here
[08:32] <didrocks> consequently, staying rather inside
[08:32] <pitti> seb128: I bounced you two recent mails from -release@ FYI
[08:32] <seb128> pitti, danke
[08:32] <didrocks> played heavy rain to ensure to be in a positive mood ;)
[08:33] <seb128> hehe
[08:34]  * didrocks takes his scalpel to totally redo the compiz packaging as we are getting just *ONE* source instead of height \o/
[08:34] <smspillaz> \o/
[08:34] <pitti> didrocks: "height"?
[08:34] <pitti> oh, "eight"?
[08:35] <didrocks> eight* yeah ;)
[08:35] <didrocks> pitti: trying to compensate all the *h* we miss with our french accent :)
[08:41] <chrisccoulson> hi pitti didrocks Laney seb128!
[08:41] <seb128> hey chrisccoulson, how are you?
[08:41] <pitti> bonjour chrisccoulson
[08:41] <Laney> \o
[08:41] <seb128> hey Laney
[08:42] <chrisccoulson> hi seb128, i'm good thanks. although, still trying to get firefox to build in quantal ;)
[08:42] <chrisccoulson> how are you?
[08:42] <seb128> I'm good thanks
[09:00] <BigWhale> Where Empathy stores account data? huh
[09:01] <BigWhale> it is not in .config/Empathy
[09:02] <chrisccoulson> could somebody please bump the score on https://launchpad.net/~chrisccoulson/+archive/ppa/+build/3506207 ? :-)
[09:02] <rickspencer3> seb128, hey, is there a wiki for the 12.04.1 team? like with goals and process,for example?
[09:04] <seb128> rickspencer3, hey, not that I know about, we have a spec though: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-q-12.04.1-team
[09:05] <seb128> rickspencer3, skaet has a work item "update LTS point release process pages with flow decided above:" there
[09:05] <seb128> rickspencer3, so I guess we will have it covered on the wiki once she does that
[09:05] <rickspencer3> thanks seb128
[09:05] <seb128> yw
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[10:05] <seb128> pitti, sorry to bother you about SRUs but Ken uploaded an updated gtk which fixes the regression from the previous version, could you review it today?
[10:07] <pitti> seb128: done
[10:07] <seb128> pitti, thanks
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[10:15] <tkamppeter> Do we have some libusb expert around here?
[10:35] <seb128> tkamppeter, not really
[10:35] <seb128> tkamppeter, why?
[10:50] <tkamppeter> seb128, In CUPS I use a libusb-based backend to communicate with USB printers. Whwn a USB printer is plugged the usblp kernel module is loaded and to still be able to access the backend detaches the module from the printer, communicates with the printer and re-attaches the module. Many uses complain about USB printing problems in 12.04, in 11.10 I have simply blacklisted the module, but there are proprietary drivers which need the module, so I st
[10:50] <tkamppeter> opped blacklisting in 12.04.
[10:53] <tkamppeter> seb128, now I want to find out what is going wrong.
[10:58] <seb128> tkamppeter, ok, not sure somebody here is better placed than you to debug...
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[11:54] <jbicha> good morning
[11:56] <seb128> hey jbicha, how are you?
[12:01] <didrocks> hey jbicha
[12:03] <jbicha> hi, I merged Evolution 3.4, but after logging out and back in, gnome-settings-daemon crashes
[12:03] <jbicha> Settings schema 'org.gnome.evolution.window:/org/gnome/evolution/mail/shell/window' is not installed
[12:03] <jbicha> I guess something isn't working with http://git.gnome.org/browse/evolution/tree/data/evolution.convert ?
[12:04] <seb128> can you run gnome-settings-daemon --debug on a command line and put the log online?
[12:05] <jbicha> http://paste.ubuntu.com/998900/
[12:06] <seb128> oh, fun
[12:07] <seb128> yeah, seems like the .convert is buggy
[12:07] <seb128> we should disable the gconf converter in gsd though in q
[12:09] <jbicha> looking in dconf-editor, there is org.gnome.mail.shell windowmaximized, windowx, and windowy
[12:10] <seb128> jbicha, well the ":/org/gnome/evolution/mail/shell/window" seems buggy in the .convert
[12:10] <chrisccoulson> does memcheck need to override malloc() and free() ?
[12:10] <seb128> the [] sections should be gsettings schemas
[12:10] <seb128> not gsettings:gconf
[12:10] <seb128> jbicha, seems like a copy error
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[12:19] <pitti> udisks2_1.97.0-1_amd64.changes ACCEPTED into experimental
[12:19] <pitti> seb128: ^ FYI
[12:19] <pitti> seb128: so we can sync tomorrow morning, or possibly tonight
[12:19] <seb128> pitti, danke!
[12:30] <seb128> jbicha, I think we can try dropping the "use plain tetris theme" in q
[12:31] <seb128> it used to make a difference when we did it but rendering performances improved since and hardware as well
[12:32] <jbicha> playing at level 20 is still impossible, but I guess people that know better shouldn't do that :)
[12:53] <Sweetshark> http://www.supersimplestorageservice.com/ <- ubuntu one, watch out!
[12:54] <mlankhorst> That  'storage per terabyte' :D
[13:01] <seb128> pitti, SRU question, if a bug listed in the changelog is only partially fixed (i.e still better than before so it should not block the SRU), would that be a verification-done with reopening of the bug after the copy or a verification-failed?
[13:01] <seb128> pitti, i.e what's the best way to convey the "the fix is incomplete byt don't block the SRU on it"
[13:02] <seb128> tkamppeter, hey, should https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-q-google-cloud-print-integration be targetted for this cycle? is that something you plan to work? or do we wait on it to happen upstream and then look at integrating it?
[13:09] <pitti> seb128: I think v-failed would be better, as a reminder to reopen the bug
[13:09] <pitti> seb128: which package is it?
[13:12] <tkamppeter> seb128, it was last cycle thought out to do the server part (sharing local printers to the cloud) by trelatively small changes in gnome-session-daemon and the online account settings panel, but the appropriate people did not find the time. And then shortly before UDS, I bumped all not done Precise Blueprints to Quantal.
[13:13] <seb128> pitti, ubuntu-docs for one
[13:14] <seb128> pitti, but I'm having a similar issue with shotwell as well I think
[13:15] <seb128> tkamppeter, ok, well we don't use gnome-online-account and I don't think we want to add extra code to gnome-settings-daemon so that needs a bit of rethinking ... do you plan to work on that this cycle (in which case we should update the spec) or should we drop it from the q list?
[13:35] <seb128> kenvandine, mterry: hey guys, how are you? had a good w.e?
[13:35] <mterry> seb128, hello!
[13:35] <mterry> seb128, yeah, it was fine, yours?
[13:36] <kenvandine> yup, and you?
[13:36] <seb128> mterry, it was good, though the weather is not that great, we get blue sky, grey rainy alternances
[13:36] <seb128> kenvandine, thanks for the GTK SRU fix!
[13:40] <kenvandine> seb128, longer term we need to get ubuntu-mono fixed
[13:40] <seb128> kenvandine, yeah, see my comment on the bug where I disagree with you uploading the revert to q ;-)
[13:40] <ogra_> double it up ! make it stereo !
[13:44] <kenvandine> seb128, i agree... but i didn't even know who to bug about fixing ubuntu-mono
[13:44] <kenvandine> and charles is going to look at the indicator
[13:44] <seb128> ok
[13:44] <kenvandine> i made sure all the bugs were filed though
[13:44] <seb128> kenvandine, thanks
[13:44] <kenvandine> who should we assign the ubuntu-mono task too?
[13:45] <seb128> kenvandine, try Cimi? ;-)
[13:46] <larsu> kenvandine, my best guess would be Cimi (he should at least know who to assign it to)
[13:46] <larsu> argh, seb128 was faster!
[13:46] <tkamppeter> seb128, perhaps we should introduce the Cloud Print idea next UDS and discuss how we actually implement it.
[13:46] <kenvandine> i didn't think he did the icon theme
[13:46] <kenvandine> guess i was wrong :)
[13:46] <seb128> tkamppeter, seems like a plan
[13:46] <seb128> kenvandine, well, as larsu said, if he doesn't he's probably the best placed to know who does ;-)
[13:47] <seb128> i.e one step closer from having it assigned correctly ;-)
[13:48] <seb128> kenvandine, btw, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-q-gwibber seems like it's mostly drafter, if that's the case can you set the definition to "review"?
[13:48] <Laney> jbicha: can you push a finalise/tag to gnome-games?
[13:48] <Laney> I fixed your FTBFS :P
[13:48] <kenvandine> sure
[13:48] <seb128> kenvandine, though now with the new "standards" you might want to add a goal description etc to it
[13:49] <kenvandine> ok, i'll do that
[13:49] <seb128> kenvandine, thanks
[13:51] <jbicha> Laney: done, thanks!
[13:54] <tkamppeter> seb128, perhaps I open a new Blueprint when the time is up.
[13:55] <seb128> tkamppeter, we can update that one and clear the whiteboard a bit for next UDS but don't worry about it for now, we have time
[13:57] <tkamppeter> seb128, yes, for Q I will do no real new features, only optimizing, improving, and debugging the workflow.
[13:57] <seb128> tkamppeter, ok, thanks
[13:58] <tkamppeter> seb128, so do not worrky about printing desktop-wise, if something needs done, I will report or forward a bug.
[13:58] <seb128> ok
[13:59] <jbicha> Laney: you can drop the quadrapassel.gsettings-override while you're at it if you like
[14:00] <Laney> okey doke
[14:14] <Laney> jbicha: ok, lp:~laney/gnome-games/fix-ftbfs is waiting for you :-)
[14:19] <Laney> we should swap gnome-games out for sgt-puzzles though: much more fun :P
[14:19] <Laney> (or nethack)
[14:21] <jbicha> Laney: oh, you work for Canonical now?
[14:22] <seb128> Laney, is sgt-puzzles good? I never tried those
[14:22] <Laney> jbicha: yep
[14:22] <seb128> seems like a lot of .desktop installed ;-)
[14:22] <Laney> seb128: in a very addictive way, yes
[14:22] <Laney> I've been playing 'pearl' a fair bit lately
[14:22] <seb128> we should maybe look at adding them to the CD
[14:23] <seb128> though I don't like the .desktop flood coming with it, I would prefer a small selected set of good games I think
[14:23] <Laney> it does contain a lot of games, indeed
[14:24] <mvo> didrocks: hey, did you had a chance to look at #855166 yet?
[14:25] <didrocks> bug #855166
[14:25] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 855166 in oneconf "software-center crashed with DBusException in call_blocking(): org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name :1.370 was not provided by any .service files" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/855166
[14:26] <didrocks> mvo: it's the same issue than usual: either the service side crashed (so need a service stacktrace) either the service didn't respond in time
[14:26] <didrocks> mvo: not sure if I shouldn't just do the call async
[14:27] <didrocks> mvo: do you get it reliably?
[14:29] <didrocks> mvo: btw, , I've been assigned 4 minutes (now 5) ago :)
[14:33] <didrocks> mvo: I have 0 new trace of service crashing on the backend side (for the first ones, it could have happen more), but not sure for the 2 bugs opened since precise is released)
[14:35] <seb128> didrocks, guessing, he came from an errors.ubuntu.com angle there
[14:36] <seb128> didrocks, is there anything you could do to improve those bugs? like having the service write in a log and have apport add the log to the bugs?
[14:37] <didrocks> seb128: hum, not sure how fan you are about a service writing to logs for anything, can be quite verbose
[14:37] <didrocks> I see one service crash
[14:37] <didrocks> 23oneconf0.2.8
[14:37] <didrocks> /usr/share/oneconf/oneconf-service:ImportError:createsynchandler:get_packageSetHandler:::_get_distro
[14:37] <didrocks> but no bug attached
[14:38] <didrocks> and I don't have granted access
[14:39] <seb128>   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/oneconf/distributor/__init__.py", line 56, in _get_distro
[14:39] <seb128>     module =  __import__(distro_id, globals(), locals(), [], -1)
[14:39] <seb128> ImportError: No module named LinuxMint
[14:39] <seb128> wth?
[14:39] <didrocks> ahah
[14:39] <didrocks> ok, LinuxMint users then :)
[14:39] <seb128> seems so
[14:39] <seb128> yeah, they are all the same
[14:39] <didrocks> I need to protect against this so
[14:39] <didrocks> seb128: do you know why I can't access those stacktraces btw?
[14:39] <seb128> oh, some are "elementary"
[14:40] <seb128> didrocks, you can't?
[14:40] <didrocks> I'm clicking on the service name
[14:40] <seb128> didrocks, https://errors.ubuntu.com/bucket/?id=/usr/share/oneconf/oneconf-query:ImportError:%3Cmodule%3E:async_update:__call__:__call__:call_blocking:_message_cb:async_update:get_packageSetHandler:%3Cmodule%3E:%3Cmodule%3E:_get_distro
[14:40] <didrocks> and get "Either you have not been granted access to this resource or your entitlement has timed out. Please try again."
[14:40] <seb128> didrocks, does that url works for you?
[14:41] <didrocks> hum, it's fine with the url
[14:41] <didrocks> where do you click on?
[14:41] <seb128> didrocks, weird
[14:41] <seb128> didrocks, on the function column
[14:41] <didrocks> doing that and it's ok now, no more signing in issue :/
[14:41] <seb128> like /usr/share/onecon..
[14:41] <seb128> didrocks, seems like a sso issue
[14:41] <seb128> sometimes I've to retry
[14:42] <didrocks> ok, I did it 3 times in a row, I guessed it wasn't lying after that :)
[14:42] <didrocks> ok, thanks seb128, it's easy to fix anyway
[14:42] <seb128> didrocks, so yeah, can you catch unknown distros then?
[14:42] <seb128> didrocks, thanks
[14:42] <didrocks> mvo: not ubuntu users ^
[14:42] <didrocks> seb128: well, distros where I have no module for
[14:42] <seb128> didrocks, the other one listed is https://errors.ubuntu.com/bucket/?id=/usr/share/oneconf/oneconf-query:DBusException:%3Cmodule%3E:async_update:__call__:__call__:call_blocking
[14:42] <didrocks> I have to test what I'll send back though
[14:42] <seb128> but that's where we need extra debug infos from the service
[14:43] <didrocks> seb128: well, same issue…
[14:43] <seb128> didrocks, to reply to your question I don't like log spamming a lot
[14:43] <seb128> but maybe we can go through some log spamming until we get the infos we need
[14:43] <didrocks> yeah, so not really sure what to do for that
[14:43] <seb128> like put it in proposed but not move it to updates
[14:44] <didrocks> let's fix the linuxmint and elementary ones
[14:44] <didrocks> and see if it's still on the list
[14:44] <seb128> right
[14:46] <didrocks> bouh linuxmint not even testing oneconf!
[14:46] <didrocks> so consequence, no oneconf for them :p
[14:46] <seb128> ;-)
[14:49] <mvo> didrocks: aha, ok, sorry, this was mostly because I look over errors.ubuntu.com and try to clean out our buglist a bit
[14:50] <didrocks> mvo: no worry, I'll try to best think of the strategy to fix it and telling the client "sorry sorry, you will get no result" ;)
[14:53]  * mvo hugs didrocks
[14:53]  * didrocks hugs mvo back
[14:56]  * jcastro hugs mvo
[14:56] <jcastro> errors.ubuntu.com is like, mvo-central!
[14:58] <mvo> jcastro: *cough* or actually *cry*
[14:58]  * mvo hides under a rock
[15:00] <pitti> wow, the first 30 or so are all Python
[15:00] <pitti> zenity is the first non-Python one
[15:01] <pitti> yummy UnicodeDecodeError, python3 FTW!
[15:01] <seb128> yeah, python for the loose there
[15:02] <seb128> though there are several reasons for that, including that some of those are what would be warning in C
[15:03] <seb128> i.e often people don't both trying to catch warnings in python since those are not visible in non apport world
[15:04] <seb128> the dupping works also better for python, no failed retracing there or no big dumps to send
[15:04] <pitti> warnings shouldn't cause a report, though; do they?
[15:06] <seb128> pitti, no, but often we have harmless exception that upstream didn't catch because "why bother, they are not user visible and don't create any breakage on the app from an user perspective"
[15:07] <seb128> I got into some discussions with upstreams in the past saying we should consider unhandled exceptions as bugs
[15:07] <seb128> or at least not in a systematic way
[15:07] <pitti> well, the top 30 or so there are all Ubuntu-ish programs
[15:08] <seb128> pitti, well, a good part of those for example are denied auth prompts
[15:08] <seb128> like if you click cancel on an polkit prompt you will get a PermissionDenied exception
[15:08] <seb128> which apport will catch
[15:08] <pitti> ah, that's somewhat relieving
[15:08] <seb128> but in practice that dismiss the dialog and there is no real bug
[15:11] <seb128> pitti, like https://errors.ubuntu.com/bucket/?id=/usr/bin/software-properties-gtk:DBusException:on_combobox_update_interval_changed:__call__:call_blocking
[15:11] <seb128> pitti, it's "run software-properties-gtk, click a checkbox, cancel the dialog" -> bug report
[15:11] <seb128> where in fact there was no error
[15:58] <pitti> good night everyone!
[15:59] <didrocks> good night pitti!
[16:23] <chrisccoulson> wow, the PPA builders really are struggling to link a PGO build of firefox. i wonder how much RAM they have? :/
[16:56] <chrisccoulson> gaaaaaaaaaaaah, https://launchpadlibrarian.net/105734465/buildlog_ubuntu-quantal-amd64.firefox_13.0~b4%2Bbuild1-0ubuntu2%2Btest5_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[16:56] <chrisccoulson> this is becoming impossible to debug when the PPA builds just time out :(
[16:57] <seb128> chrisccoulson, I see that firefox is not any better than webkit ;-)
[16:57] <chrisccoulson> heh
[17:01] <chrisccoulson> yay, there's a surprise. thunderbird has the same problem: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/105734839/buildlog_ubuntu-quantal-amd64.thunderbird_13.0~b2%2Bbuild1-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[17:01] <chrisccoulson> and this isn't built with PGO either
[17:01] <chrisccoulson> so it must be triggered by a compiler change :(
[17:02] <chrisccoulson> i guess there's an easy fix for that
[17:02] <chrisccoulson> ---> back to gcc 4.6
[17:13] <didrocks> ok, time for exercice and dinner, see you tomorrow everyone!
[17:18] <micahg> chrisccoulson: the builds seem to hang
[17:18] <chrisccoulson> micahg, they're not hanging. they just take too long to link
[17:19] <micahg> hrm, yeah, sounds like a compiler bug then, as the whole build has been less than 2.5 hrs before
[17:20] <chrisccoulson> it's longer because this is a PGO build. and the long linking time isn't the primary problem that i'm trying to debug
[17:29] <Laney> rightyo
[17:29]  * Laney proposes gnome-menus merge and checks out
[17:29] <Laney> night folks
[17:30] <seb128> Laney, 'night
[17:34] <highvoltage> night Laney
[18:57] <micahg> seb128: when's a good time to chat about Firefox testing? (i.e. not now)
[18:58] <seb128> micahg, does the "i.e..." suggest you prefer another time? ;-)
[18:58] <seb128> now works for me but another time is ok as well
[19:00] <micahg> seb128: yeah, I have a meeting in 2 minutes :), if you're around afterwards we can chat (hopefully about an hour)
[19:01] <seb128> micahg, not sure yet, if I'm around sure otherwise feel free to ping me any other day during european work hours (or later if I'm still online ;-)
[19:01] <micahg> ok
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[20:08] <maxb> If I run lpinfo -m and get something like this:
[20:08] <maxb> foomatic-db-compressed-ppds:0/ppd/foomatic-ppd/Generic-PostScript_Printer-Postscript.ppd Generic PostScript Printer Foomatic/Postscript (recommended)
[20:08] <maxb> foomatic-db-compressed-ppds:1/ppd/foomatic-ppd/Generic-PostScript_Printer-Postscript.ppd Generic PostScript Printer Foomatic/Postscript (recommended)
[20:08] <maxb> What is the number 0 or 1 telling me?
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[22:28] <tkamppeter> RAOF, hi
[22:45] <RAOF> tkamppeter: Hi
[23:56] <JoeJulian> Would someone be able to recommend a good page to point a user to (I'm trying to help an ubuntu desktop user in #gluster, but I'm not an ubuntu user) who's installed desktop but needs to uninstall NetworkManager and configure their network using the static upstart scripts?