[03:23] <digital0ak> is ubuntustudio similar to artistx?
[03:26] <digital0ak> meh
[11:37] <studio-Greg> hey peeps
[11:39] <studio-Greg> im in teh process of installing ubuntu studio to do sound recording and music production. does anyone have any tips or reccomendations for initial config or tweaks?
[15:56] <dlandry> Question about gladish in Ubuntu Studio 12.04. I can create a studio, set the command lines of the apps I want to come up all configured (Ardour, Hydrogen, a couple of instances of Yoshimi) and I can bring up the apps and shut them down one at a time, but if I shut down the studio with the apps running, when I try to start the studio again gladish seems to just hang. (I can reboot, and start up the gladish studio the first time o
[15:56] <dlandry> k, but if I shut down the studio and start it again it hangs -- as long as I shut down the apps individually before shutting down the studio it works, but if I leave the apps up, and try to stop and start the studio it does not work.) ... any ideas?
[17:22] <madzia> hello is anyone here an experienced ubuntu user and could help me a little with configuration?
[19:14] <plotino> hi
[19:21] <plotino> im trying to install ubuntustudio 12.04 on my old
[19:21] <plotino> pc where ubuntustudio 10.04 was installed
[19:21] <holstein> let us know how its failing if it is
[19:22] <holstein> try it live.. should work just fine :)
[19:22] <plotino> but when i try
[19:22] <plotino> i have tried live
[19:22] <plotino> but
[19:22] <plotino> mouse not working
[19:22] <holstein> did you get to the desktop live?
[19:22] <plotino> keyboard not working
[19:22] <plotino> i have boot the live desktop
[19:23] <holstein> probably something removed from the kernel that supported your hardware
[19:23] <holstein> depeding on the age, i might just hang with 10.04
[19:23] <plotino> :(
[19:23] <plotino> the age of the machine
[19:23] <holstein> its likely something you can fix easily with your own kernel, or a module
[19:23] <plotino> yes
[19:23] <plotino> but let me ask
[19:23] <holstein> i would search around by manufacturer for something in the forums
[19:23] <plotino> i have downloladed and burn
[19:23] <holstein> OR, just plug in a USB keyboard and mouse
[19:23] <plotino> the i386 version
[19:24] <plotino>  while the processor is an old AMD
[19:24] <plotino> is ti correct?
[19:24] <holstein> if its not, it wont boot
[19:24] <plotino> please the stupid question ..
[19:24] <plotino> because first time i have boot an error occurred
[19:25] <plotino> a module SIS..something was not inserted
[19:25] <holstein> sure.. if its old hardware, you can run into that
[19:25] <plotino> so what can i do?
[19:25] <holstein> plotino: i would run 10.04 or use a USB keyboard/mouse, or search for a module that will add support for that hardware, or build a custom kernel
[19:26] <holstein> the kernel must drop support for old hardware at somepoint
[19:26] <holstein> maybe someone in the kernel team can help you with what support has been dropped from 10.04 to 12.04
[19:27] <plotino> ok
[19:27] <plotino> as alternative i can update my 10.04 version ..
[19:27] <holstein> plotino: sure, but you'll upgrade to the kernel that doesnt support your hardware
[19:28] <plotino> im very interested in update programs
[19:28] <holstein> plotino: sure... its something you can fix
[19:28] <plotino> as rosegarden hydrogen and also jack server
[19:29] <holstein> plotino: you can also add the kxstudio ppa's to 10.04
[19:29] <holstein> plotino: you can build whatever you want in 10.04 and run them
[19:30] <plotino> infact
[19:30] <plotino> you are right
[19:30] <plotino> the point is that i have read on the ubuntu website
[19:31] <plotino> that it's better install 12.04 from scratch but upgrading the old issue (10.04)
[19:31] <holstein> plotino: upgrading wont help
[19:32] <holstein> plotino: you end up with the same unsupported kernel at the end of a fresh install, or upgrading from 10.04 to 12.04
[19:32] <plotino> i keep the old kernel
[19:33] <holstein> plotino: not in an upgrade
[19:33] <holstein> plotino: there might be issues using an older kernel too
[19:35] <plotino> ok
[19:35] <plotino> but can i use new programs with old kernel ...
[19:35] <holstein> plotino: im sure you will find out
[19:36] <holstein> plotino: what do i suggest if and when you asked?... 10.04 with kxstudio ppa's.. build a kernel... load modules in 12.04 with support... upgrade the hardware
[19:36] <holstein> i dont list running a 2.6x kernel in 12.04 there for a reason
[19:36] <holstein> but, do what you like :)
[19:37] <plotino> thanks
[19:37] <plotino> but
[19:37] <plotino> i had a problem
[19:37] <plotino> with hydrogen in 10.04 that i hope tp fix with newer version
[19:38] <plotino> when i start hydrigen jack fails
[19:38] <plotino> im not able to manage the transport from jack ...
[19:38] <holstein> plotino: try the newer version
[19:39] <holstein> plotino: not a lot of fixes in there realy
[19:39] <holstein> reallY8
[19:39] <holstein> plotino: those nerwer version are available in the ppa's i mentioned several times
[19:39] <plotino> what is ppa?
[19:39] <holstein> http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/KXStudio:Repositories
[19:40] <holstein> plotino: its a way of using updated packages (as i am) in 10.04 (also as i am)
[19:40] <holstein> my using the prepackaged version from the kxstudio repositories i linked, and mentioned several times
[19:42] <plotino> holstein, you are using 10.04?
[19:42] <plotino> so you can help very much ..
[19:42] <holstein> plotino: thats what ive been implying
[19:42] <holstein> plotino: i use the kxstudio ppa's
[19:43] <holstein> the ones i linked
[19:44] <plotino> what i didnt understand if iti is a sort of distro or only packets
[19:46] <plotino> holstein
[19:46] <holstein> ypu
[19:46] <holstein> yes?
[19:46] <plotino> what i have to do?
[19:46] <holstein> plotino: for?
[19:46] <plotino> to add these repositories
[19:46] <holstein> plotino: there are directions
[19:46] <plotino> i wanna use ppa
[19:46] <plotino> music for example
[19:47] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#Adding_PPAs
[19:47] <holstein> plotino: its not trivial
[19:47] <holstein> plotino: i didnt just click there and add them 4 minutes later
[19:47] <holstein> i read about what the packages were and did
[19:47] <holstein> i installed them on a test machine
[19:47] <holstein> i test removed the pacakges with ppapurge
[19:48] <holstein> i dont feel comfortable telling you some paste in commands that can be potentially harmful
[19:48] <holstein> plotino: i used sudo add-apt-repository ppa:user/ppa-name
[19:48] <holstein> in the terminal
[19:49] <plotino> ok
[19:49] <plotino> first step for me shall be upìdate 10.04
[19:49] <plotino> after that i will think about that
[19:51] <holstein> plotino: you mean? upgrade to 12.04?
[19:51] <holstein> i wouldnt do both
[19:52] <holstein> i would just run 10.04, and add those PPA's
[19:52] <dlandry> repeating a question I asked earlier today .. had to shut down, so if there was an answer I missed it .. sorry ...
[19:52] <dlandry> Question about gladish in Ubuntu Studio 12.04. I can create a studio, set the command lines of the apps I want to come up all configured (Ardour, Hydrogen, a couple of instances of Yoshimi) and I can bring up the apps and shut them down one at a time, but if I shut down the studio with the apps running, when I try to start the studio again gladish seems to just hang. (I can reboot, and start up the gladish studio the first time o
[19:52] <dlandry> k, but if I shut down the studio and start it again it hangs -- as long as I shut down the apps individually before shutting down the studio it works, but if I leave the apps up, and try to stop and start the studio it does not work.) ... any ideas?
[19:53] <holstein> i still do it the old fashioned way dlandry
[19:53] <holstein> sounds like a bug
[19:53] <holstein> i would see if you can find the maintainer and see whats going on as far as development
[19:54] <holstein> for me, troubleshooting session managment just adds overhead to my workflow
[19:54] <holstein> and i never trust it
[19:55] <plotino> no no only perform the normal update of 10.04
[19:55] <plotino> from when i have installed it , never updated!!
[19:56] <dlandry>  ok, thanks ... I'll try a few more combinations and see if I can define the problem better, then maybe open a defect ... I know what you mean, but it would be so nice to have things work (I suppose I could do the same thing with bash scripts and manually start things and make connections.)
[19:58] <holstein> plotino: i havent updated in a while...
[21:19] <Lucian_Lucius> hello to everybody :)
[21:20] <Lucian_Lucius> how can I install libre office suite on my ubuntu studio?
[21:20] <holstein> Lucian_Lucius: i would just search in the package manager of your choice
[21:27] <vlt> Lucian_Lucius: `apt-get install libreoffice`
[21:29] <holstein> yup.. open a terminal, and type that ^^
[21:29] <holstein> sudo apt-get install libreoffice
[21:29] <holstein> or, whatever package manger you are comfortable with
[21:30] <Lucian_Lucius> thanx :)