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| ochosi | bluesabre_laptop: ping | 17:13 |
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| ochosi | bluesabre: ping :) | 17:33 |
| bluesabre | hey ochosi | 17:33 |
| bluesabre | btw, just uploaded a few fixes | 17:33 |
| ochosi | ah nice | 17:34 |
| ochosi | gotta pull again then :) | 17:34 |
| bluesabre | everything that's currently in there should be working as expected at this point | 17:35 |
| ochosi | cool | 17:35 |
| ochosi | how're you determining whether something is an application? | 17:35 |
| ochosi | (i get lots of .iso, postinst etc. that are definitely not applications) | 17:35 |
| bluesabre | just by mime right now. Unfortunately, things like pdf and such are also listed under the application mime | 17:36 |
| ochosi | (i mean: they're executables, but not applications) | 17:36 |
| ochosi | right. i see | 17:36 |
| ochosi | maybe we should work around that somehow | 17:36 |
| bluesabre | yeah | 17:36 |
| ochosi | only search for stuff in /bin and .desktop or something like that | 17:36 |
| bluesabre | good idea | 17:36 |
| ochosi | but anyway, there's appfinder for that :) | 17:37 |
| bluesabre | I actually need to tweak all the type filters since mimetype isn't always so accurate | 17:37 |
| ochosi | (i mean if you're seriously looking for something that is installed in the right place) | 17:37 |
| ochosi | mhm | 17:37 |
| bluesabre | true | 17:37 |
| ochosi | one more thing about the suggestions | 17:37 |
| ochosi | i think the delay needs some tweaking | 17:37 |
| ochosi | maybe more delay, currently it slows down typing too much | 17:38 |
| ochosi | it seems to poll after every letter/change | 17:38 |
| ochosi | (i mean immediately) | 17:38 |
| bluesabre | yup | 17:38 |
| ochosi | let me quickly look at what we did for gmusicbrowser | 17:39 |
| ochosi | cause there we tested quite a while what feels best | 17:39 |
| ochosi | also: don't poll after the first letter | 17:40 |
| ochosi | something like: my $timeout = $1<2 ? 1000 : $1==2 ? 200 : 100 (in perl) | 17:42 |
| ochosi | (or drop the 1000, maybe better) | 17:43 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: try it now. I moved the suggestions into a gobject thread | 17:54 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: far better | 17:57 |
| bluesabre | awesome | 17:58 |
| ochosi | but still, if i try to type "xubuntu" it stops me after "xu" :/ | 17:58 |
| bluesabre | ok, I'll throw some timeouts in there | 17:58 |
| ochosi | thanks :) | 17:58 |
| ochosi | i'll try to make another layout-mockup now | 17:59 |
| bluesabre | sounds good | 17:59 |
| ochosi | humm | 18:07 |
| ochosi | i'm not very happy with how much space the infobar takes... | 18:08 |
| ochosi | i'd prefer something far more subtle | 18:08 |
| ochosi | at least by default | 18:08 |
| bluesabre | mock up something awesomer :D | 18:09 |
| ochosi | hehe | 18:09 |
| ochosi | yeah, banging my head against the wall currently | 18:09 |
| ochosi | as soon as i'm done with that, i'll mock it up :p | 18:09 |
| * davmor2 moves ochosi 's wall | 18:10 | |
| ochosi | heh | 18:13 |
| ochosi | thanks davmor2 :) | 18:13 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: ok, baby steps then. some padding/arrangment tweaks: http://imagebin.org/213285 | 18:13 |
| ochosi | btw, notice the "x" (close-button) in the search-bar. it should be there when $search!='' | 18:14 |
| ochosi | and ideally there would be a spinner instead of the "x" while the search is going on | 18:14 |
| ochosi | which would on hover show the "x" to cancel the search | 18:14 |
| ochosi | btw, "Esc" could be mapped to cancel the search by default _and_ to clear a finished search | 18:15 |
| bluesabre | sounds good | 18:16 |
| scott-work | thank you for the bug on xfce4-utils mr_pouit | 18:32 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: i think i finally have an idea how to implement the "find" in the UI | 18:57 |
| bluesabre | cool | 18:57 |
| bluesabre | btw, made some of the interface adjustments. Not sure how I'm going to do the spinner in the entry box though | 18:58 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: http://imagebin.org/213292 | 19:01 |
| ochosi | obviously the "search thorougly" is supposed to be a button :} | 19:01 |
| ochosi | didn't take the time to really draw it ;) | 19:01 |
| bluesabre | I like that | 19:02 |
| bluesabre | Care if I make the button look just like that? | 19:02 |
| bluesabre | lol | 19:02 |
| ochosi | haha | 19:02 |
| ochosi | please do that! | 19:02 |
| ochosi | if the spinner in the entry doesn't work, we can also put it in the statusbar | 19:05 |
| ochosi | cause while the search is running, there's nothing else there | 19:05 |
| ochosi | Unit193: tried searchmonkey now, it looks overly complicated (the UI) and it's not really faster or anything | 19:05 |
| Unit193 | Right, it was just an idea, I personally use locate and try find every so often. | 19:07 |
| ochosi | Unit193: i think you might be able to use catfish in the future :) | 19:08 |
| ochosi | (in the near future) | 19:08 |
| knome | hurr durr | 19:08 |
| Unit193 | I pulled from git, worked with the locate backend. | 19:09 |
| Unit193 | s/git/bzr/ | 19:09 |
| ochosi | yup | 19:10 |
| knome | bbl | 19:12 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: interface adjustments look good! btw, the dotted lines in the treeview, did you set those in the code? | 19:27 |
| ochosi | cause they don't look like proper murrine-engine dots, more like fallback-stuff | 19:27 |
| bluesabre | It's not murrine, is it? pygi uses gtk3 | 19:28 |
| ochosi | oh right | 19:30 |
| ochosi | i forgot :) | 19:30 |
| ochosi | (stupid me) | 19:30 |
| bluesabre | lol | 19:30 |
| ochosi | well still | 19:30 |
| bluesabre | but I agree. Are those dots themeable? | 19:30 |
| bluesabre | or maybe we should port murrine to gtk3? (not going to volunteer myself for that one) | 19:31 |
| ochosi | hmm, treeviews/listviews in greybird-gtk3 don't have the dots, but alternating row-colours | 19:31 |
| ochosi | well, in fact unico is a rewrite of murrine for gtk3 | 19:31 |
| ochosi | it has similar functions | 19:31 |
| ochosi | it's just not as mature | 19:31 |
| ochosi | partly because gtk3 isn't as mature as gtk2 | 19:31 |
| ochosi | (murrine and unico are written by the same author) | 19:32 |
| bluesabre | oh awesome | 19:32 |
| ochosi | so you added the dots? | 19:33 |
| ochosi | cause if yes i have to check whether i can theme them with unico (not entirely sure i can) | 19:34 |
| ochosi | but alternating row-colors would be nice | 19:34 |
| ochosi | they're in the theme, they work e.g. in the file-open dialog | 19:34 |
| bluesabre | yeah, it was an option for the treeview. It should have the alternating rows now (does on mine) | 19:34 |
| ochosi | ok nice | 19:34 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: just pushed the latest interface changes | 19:38 |
| mr_pouit | ok, let's add a workaround for the non-expandable tasklist plugin from 4.10 :< | 19:40 |
| ochosi | mr_pouit: agreed | 19:44 |
| mr_pouit | that will be ugly, and may have funny side effects for people that changed the default config, but well | 19:45 |
| mr_pouit | (basically, if /plugins/plugin-2 is tasklist and /plugins/plugin-3 is separator, then we're in the xubuntu default layout and it sets /plugins/plugin-3 as expandable | 19:46 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: maybe add a tooltip to the close-button and make it clear the treeview as well | 19:46 |
| ochosi | mr_pouit: it's a problem only for people who used the ppa. and those are on their own anyway :} | 19:46 |
| mr_pouit | now if someone customised the layout enough to have plugin-2 as a tasklist in panel 0 and plugin-3 as a separator in panel 1, it will be affected as well | 19:47 |
| mr_pouit | no, that's on upgrades from 4.8 :[ | 19:47 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: I'm not sure why we'd want to clear the treeview as well? | 19:47 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: hmm, right. i dunno, i kinda expected that, but i think you're right | 19:48 |
| ochosi | the changes look and work great btw | 19:49 |
| ochosi | do you wanna keep $searchterm in the statusbar? | 19:50 |
| ochosi | i mean there's one use-case i can think of, clearing the search-entry and then wanting to know what you searched for, but that's kinda odd and i'm not sure it's enough to keep a duplication | 19:51 |
| mr_pouit | did you talk with kalikiana about replacing catfish? (or will it live with another name) | 19:51 |
| ochosi | mr_pouit: right, i didn't read what you proposed properly. i'm not sure that this is the kind of workaround we want. it's a bit hacky and not exactly failproof | 19:51 |
| ochosi | mr_pouit: yes, he was looking for a new maintainer anyway | 19:52 |
| ochosi | mr_pouit: but we'll see, i think last time it didn't compile for hi | 19:52 |
| ochosi | m | 19:52 |
| ochosi | i'll talk to him 'bout it | 19:52 |
| bluesabre | yeah, he was having difficulties with it | 19:53 |
| bluesabre | btw, I fixed the annoying bugs with catfish in lubuntu as well, so they might be able to use it next time if we get this in | 19:53 |
| ochosi | ah right | 19:53 |
| ochosi | in that case superseding current catfish would be best | 19:54 |
| bluesabre | you wouldn't believe it, but pcmanfm does not take path arguments | 19:54 |
| bluesabre | silly | 19:54 |
| ochosi | pff | 19:54 |
| ochosi | i was never a big fan of pacmanfm tbh | 19:54 |
| * ochosi hopes jannis will pick up thunar-development again sometime soon | 19:55 | |
| ochosi | k, i'm off for a bit | 20:00 |
| ochosi | prolly bbl though | 20:00 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: btw, you didn't add the delay yet, did you? | 20:00 |
| ochosi | anyway, just wondering, no rush :) | 20:01 |
| bluesabre | yeah, haven't added the delay yet, but reduced the number of attempts | 20:02 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: Just pushed the icon tooltips. btw, have any feedback for the custom date and custom file format dialogs? | 20:13 |
| knome | bleh, hey people | 20:26 |
| bluesabre | hey knome | 20:27 |
| knome | hey bluesabre | 20:27 |
| * knome is *so* tired from being at places during the last days | 20:28 | |
| knome | home office ftw | 20:28 |
| Unit193 | knome: Howdy matie. | 20:30 |
| knome | hey Unit193! :) | 20:30 |
| * knome is starting to like his new terminal color-scheme a lot | 20:31 | |
| micahg | mr_pouit: I think it's awesome that 4.10 is in and there are no new build failures | 20:32 |
| knome | http://temp.knome.fi/other/shot-201205-21.png <- | 20:32 |
| mr_pouit | micahg: yep \o/, the ppa helped though (there was only one failure with linelight-plugin, and it was noticed in my ppa) | 20:42 |
| mr_pouit | the "less nice" part is that plugins need to be updated to benefit from the new 'deskbar' mode introduced in xfce4-panel 4.10 | 20:43 |
| bluesabre | how much updating? | 20:44 |
| mr_pouit | not that big, I think it's mostly on new callback | 20:47 |
| mr_pouit | *one | 20:47 |
| baizon | knome: irssi? | 20:52 |
| ochosi | knome: i dunno, the blues are too agressive for me | 20:53 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: will take a look tomorrow, gotta sleep now | 20:53 |
| ochosi | night everyone | 20:53 |
| Unit193 | baizon: Yes that is. | 20:57 |
| knome | baizon, yes | 21:02 |
| knome | ochosi, nighty! | 21:02 |
| knome | ochosi, (not for me!) | 21:02 |
| micahg | knome: why did you remove xubuntu-dev from xubuntu-artwork, it contains the canonical branch for the ubuntu package and core-devs need to be able to commit | 21:12 |
| knome | micahg, hmph, isn't that a bit unclean? :| | 21:16 |
| knome | i can revert if that's needed. i thought it was only you and lionel who needed to access | 21:17 |
| knome | -dev is invited once again. | 21:18 |
| knome | sorry for the hassle! | 21:18 |
| * knome shouldn't work on FOSS when tired | 21:18 | |
| knome | otoh, i think i found a bug in xfce bugzilla which is fixed | 21:19 |
| micahg | knome: well, core-devs shouldn't be touching it unless they need to fix an issue in the archive | 21:19 |
| knome | mmh, well anyway, it's reverted | 21:20 |
| micahg | thanks | 21:20 |
| knome | np | 21:20 |
| knome | btw, have you had a chance to look at the website/wiki "development" pages? | 21:21 |
| knome | we still refer to people having to apply as a MOTU | 21:21 |
| knome | i'd like to get those pages updated to be as correct as possible, and maybe we could attract a few people | 21:21 |
| knome | the rest of the "how to contribute" stuff is relatively current and correct now :) | 21:21 |
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