[00:06] <agarwood> Hi, wich langage here ?
[00:08] <agarwood> some one ? Il y a quelqu'un ?
[00:10] <bazhang> !fr
[00:11] <agarwood> okay, I need that " boot.img.gz " for xubuntu 12.04, do you know where I can find it ? thank you
[00:14] <agarwood> bye
[05:14] <laite> Hm, it seems that plymouth doesn't show with nouveau drivers, screen stays blank until it's filled with some garbage on startup
[05:15] <laite> does anyone know some solution for this
[05:15] <laite> I have geforce gts450
[06:06] <thermi> Hello
[06:07] <thermi> I have a Problem
[06:07] <thermi> the Update Manager doesn't show me, that 12.04 LTS is available, although it is set to display me newer LTS Releases
[06:08] <thermi> I receive upgraded packages normally and everythin works fine, but it still bothers me that the notification for newer releases doesn't work.
[06:09] <thermi> I have it now set to display normal releases as well and now it shows me that 10.10 is available. Normal or not?
[06:14] <thermi> Ok, I think this is broken. I set it to display LTS-releases only, reloaded and now the old display for 10.10 is stuck.
[07:40] <laite> thermi: you could try running update manager from terminal like this:  update-manager -d
[07:40] <thermi> ok.
[07:41] <thermi> uh
[07:41] <thermi> now it works
[07:41] <thermi> magic.
[07:41] <laite> =)
[07:41] <thermi> hm
[07:41] <thermi> it is odd.
[07:43] <thermi> I hope that Bug is fixed in 12.04
[08:50] <magnus__> what do you guys usually use to manage your ssh connections?
[08:51] <Marzata> xfce terminal
[08:51] <magnus__> ah right, nice and simple
[08:52] <magnus__> don't get me wrong, I prefer xfce way of dealing with lots of windows, compared to Gnome 3 and Unity, but sometimes wonder if there is an even easier way of managing loads of connections at the same time
[08:52] <magnus__> I loose track of the tabs and windows I have some times ;/
[08:53] <Marzata> xmonad?
[08:54]  * magnus__ gooles xmonad
[08:54] <magnus__> googles ;)
[08:55] <magnus__> maybe what I am after, will have a play later ;) cheers
[08:56] <magnus__> xfce can use this too I take it?
[09:01] <Marzata> magnus__: you can install xmonad and uses Xfce ot Xmonad, or even together
[09:02] <Marzata> magnus__: Google is a xmonad user
[09:02] <magnus__> hmm; may give it a go
[09:03] <magnus__> hope its not too complex to setup. Just works out the box?
[09:03] <Marzata> yes
[09:04] <Marzata> and you log out, then on the login menu choose xmonad session
[09:04] <magnus__> cool
[09:04] <magnus__> thanks Marzata ;)
[09:04] <Marzata> fyrir ekkert
[09:05] <magnus__> we'll see
[09:06] <Marzata> Google and Ubuntu: http://youtu.be/yGIGmve78Yg
[10:42] <rcjames> Hey guys I have one problem with ati catalyst it wont open.
[10:58] <magnus__> well I installed xmonad; when I came to login by selecting it, it just hung
[10:59] <magnus__> back in xubuntu  :(
[10:59] <magnus__> just wanted to try it out
[12:10] <knelix> Hello
[12:11] <knelix> I've got an issue logging in- Login keeps looping- throwing me back to the login screen.
[12:42] <baizon> does someone use the kernel mainline ppa?
[14:34] <recon69_lap> I take it xubuntu has lots of little glitches ? like my sound is earphone only since i booted with ear phones plugged in?
[14:44] <sakrayaami> hi there, I'm using the latest Xubuntu 12.04 on a virtual machine and it has amazing performance. However I have some strange issue, when I try to play a movie there is no video output, however the flash is running as well as the sound. Any ideas?
[14:44] <holstein> recon69_lap: likely just something with your specific hardware.. you can always check with the main ubuntu live CD and take XFCE out of the equation..
[14:44] <holstein> sakrayaami: maybe a codec issue...
[14:45] <sakrayaami> really strange
[14:45] <sakrayaami> let me check the codecs, i've tried to use vlc, smplayer and parole - the same
[14:45] <recon69_lap> holstein: well, it matches up with the glitch last night when pluging in the ear phones did not silence the speekers :)
[14:45] <holstein> yeah?.. im sure we can find a file type that any operating system cant play sakrayaami
[14:47] <holstein> recon69_lap: some folks install the pavucontrol package.. its not a glitch though that the hardware has no software or drivers to communicate with it
[14:47] <recon69_lap> sakrayaami: video driver? old ATI?
[14:47] <sakrayaami> vmware
[14:48] <sakrayaami> i'm installing the restricted extras for xubuntu
[14:49] <recon69_lap> sakrayaami: that will probably work :)
[14:49] <sakrayaami> hope so
[14:49] <recon69_lap> holstein: pavucontrol is the default in xubuntu
[14:50] <sakrayaami> anyway as I said it has very good performance
[14:50] <sakrayaami> i've just migrated from mint xfce edition and i'm very pleased from what I see in xubuntu
[14:50] <recon69_lap> working good for me to, just a few little things cropping up
[14:51] <sakrayaami> no sign of the old shitty xubuntu
[14:53] <recon69_lap> lol, going to reboot to see what happens to sound :)
[14:53] <holstein> recon69_lap: i say, take xubuntu/XFCE out of the equation and test.. i tend to think its likely hardware support rather than something isolated to linux
[14:56] <sakrayaami> aaand?
[14:56] <recon69_lap> yep, speeker sound back after reboot
[14:56] <sakrayaami> does the birdy singing again?
[14:57] <recon69_lap> and plugging in earphones does not silence speakers
[14:59] <holstein> recon69_lap: it really shouldnt... i think that requires a driver
[14:59] <holstein> i heard there was development to include that soon, but the conversation was over my head
[15:00] <recon69_lap> not a big issue, missing the disk utility package seems a bigger boo boo :)
[15:00] <holstein> as i said before you left, try with other live CD's and take xubuntu/XFCE out of the equation... i think you'll find that its a hardware support issue
[15:02] <recon69_lap> holstein: so what you suggesting is that I find the driver from my sound device and install it?
[15:04] <holstein> recon69_lap: what im suggesting is, the manufactuerer of your device has not supplied a driver that supports the features you are looking for in the operating system you are using
[15:05] <recon69_lap> holstein: worked fine in ubuntu 10.04, so I suspect something else
[15:05] <autif> What is the right place to ask about Install CD customization? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization is based on hardy and i386 - I need to customize a CD for amd64 - have some questions.
[15:06] <holstein> recon69_lap: this is important information.. likele a module you can add back in... the kernel cant keep *all* drivers and support in it
[15:10] <recon69_lap> thats a lot of reading autif
[15:13] <autif> recon69_lap: Yes. I know there are a lot of Ubuntu devs in this channel, so may be someone know where is the right place to ask something about *.conf files under "Building the repository with apt-ftparchive" - those files are specific to i386 - whay needs to be done with amd64
[15:15] <recon69_lap> autif: I would think just use a amd64 iso image as your starting point instead of a 32bit
[15:16] <autif> recon69_lap: I am using the amd64 iso image to begin with - but it seems like files like apt-ftparchive-deb.conf need some sections in addition to what is listed in this article
[17:25] <xubuntu272> Hola
[17:25] <Unit193> Howdy.
[17:26] <xubuntu272> quisiera saber como cambiar de arquitectura mi xubuntu
[17:26] <Unit193> !es
[17:26] <xubuntu272> lo instale en 32 bits quiero pasarlo cambiarlo a 64
[17:33] <nuba> hi folks, is there a mini.iso for xubuntu? it seems that'd be the simplest way to install in a x220 ultrabook.. don't have a usb stick handy, the other choice would be netboot..
[17:34] <Unit193> The mini.iso is the mini, there's not one for Ubuntu/Xubuntu/Lubuntu.  It's just the core system, but you can install xubuntu-desktop
[17:35] <nuba> great! will give it a try, then! thank you! :)
[18:41] <daniel2> i have a friend with a flash problem! bbc i player says need to install flash! she has already installed it anyone had a similiar problem or fix
[18:42] <Unit193> What browser, package, and OS version?
[18:42] <daniel2> firefox not sure which os version i have yet to pay her a visit
[18:43] <Unit193> Then it'd be rather hard to help.
[18:43] <daniel2> i think from googling that she may not have libflashplayer.so in the plugin directory
[18:44] <Unit193> I generally have whoever purge flashplugin-installer and install adobe-flashplugin (after adding the !partner repo)
[18:44] <daniel2> as adobe flash is not being supported for linux any longer! how long do you think it will take for migration to html 5
[18:45] <daniel2> or is there a linux work around for flash in future! i have heard of gnash
[18:45] <Unit193> Flash is fine for now, and will get security updates still too.
[18:46] <daniel2> do you have to add ppa to repo's to install flashplayer on xubuntu or can i get deb from adobe site
[18:46] <Unit193> Another option would be insntalling and using Chrome.
[18:46] <Unit193> !partner
[18:47] <daniel2> yeah i have assumed she is using firefox as chrome comes with flash built in! unless xubuntu comes with it's own browser
[18:47] <Artemis3> comes with firefox but you can install others
[18:47] <daniel2> ah cool
[18:47] <Artemis3> flash is not installed tho
[18:48] <daniel2> would not having restricted extras install some how be a problem or is this not associated with flash
[18:49] <Artemis3> i think you need to add the partners repository and install adobe-flash as instructed
[18:49] <Tiktalik> hm
[18:49] <Tiktalik> should I update to 12.04
[18:49] <daniel2> ok thank you i will try that when i get to meet up with her
[18:50] <daniel2> thanks for your help! she really loves xubuntu btw
[18:50] <Unit193> Make sure to remove -installer first.
[18:50] <Unit193> Tiktalik: Up to you.
[18:51] <Tiktalik> Unit193: Will it mess up my drivers?
[18:51] <Artemis3> which drivers? are you using restricted drivers?
[18:52] <Unit193> ℡Shouldn't, but you should look at jockey after.
[18:54] <Tiktalik> well, uh
[18:54] <Tiktalik> my drivers are..to put it lightly
[18:54] <Tiktalik> fucked up
[18:54] <Tiktalik> I really have no clue what I have
[18:55] <Unit193> Except you really shouldn't use the type of language. :/  You can use  lshw or lspci to figure what drivers.
[18:55] <Artemis3> Tiktalik, you can try in a terminal sudo lshw and paste the resuls to paste.ubuntu.com
[18:59] <Tiktalik> http://paste.ubuntu.com/999559/
[19:00] <Artemis3> sandybridge using nvidia video
[19:01] <Artemis3> look simple
[19:01] <Artemis3> why not try booting the livecd image? should work fine
[19:04] <Tiktalik> kk
[19:04] <Tiktalik> well Artemis3, I was having opengl problems with steam
[19:04] <Tiktalik> it wouldn't run
[19:04] <Tiktalik> a sudo apt-get autoremove after I got it working broke it.
[19:04] <Artemis3> i don't think you will have any problems, but backup any important data just in case
[19:05] <Artemis3> all you need is to run the restricted driver manager (jockey) and enable the nvidia drivers, that is all
[19:05] <Tiktalik> Artemis3: How can I get a package list
[19:06] <Artemis3> i don't know about steam, but i have tried many games with wine and they work fine with the nvidia driver supplied by jockey.
[19:06] <Tiktalik> bah
[19:07] <Artemis3> perhaps you can install fresh? Would be much simpler.
[19:08] <Unit193> Tiktalik: dpkg --get-selections > package-list
[19:10]  * Tiktalik throws caution into the wind and upgrades
[19:12] <Artemis3> from 11.10 you should expect any important trouble. Don't mess the nvidia driver just use the one supplied by jockey after the upgrade.
[19:12] <Artemis3> should not
[19:21] <milen8204> I can not run video in some Internet sites.
[19:23] <milen8204> like http://screen.yahoo.com, vbox.com and others
[19:27] <holstein> milen8204: i would try the chrome browser.. maybe its the sites and not the software?
[19:28] <milen8204> holstein,  no i did try whit several browsers but no success
[19:28] <milen8204> I thing is something else youtube runs well
[19:28] <holstein> milen8204: you tried with the chrome browser?
[19:29] <milen8204> Yes
[19:29] <milen8204> same effect
[19:30] <milen8204> just blank screen
[19:30] <holstein> milen8204: screen.yahoo.com is just flash
[19:30] <holstein> its playing for me right now in chrome
[19:31] <milen8204> I got flash installed
[19:31] <holstein> maybe make another user and test there.. maybe you have broken something in the browser config
[19:31] <holstein> milen8204: AFAIK, the *actual* chrome browser has its own flash (not chromium)
[19:32] <milen8204> holstein, I have preinstall my OS 2 times
[19:32] <milen8204> and that is the problem every times
[19:32] <holstein> milen8204: sure.. im just saying it is *your* problem.. which makes me want to isolate the browser config... with the actual chrome browser.. not chromium.. is that the case?
[19:33] <milen8204> my browser in the moment is Firefox
[19:34] <holstein> milen8204: user whatever browser you like.. im suggesting hte *actual* chrome as a troubleshooting step, since AFAIK, that is the only way to get current flash support in linux right now
[19:34] <milen8204> aha I see
[19:34] <holstein> milen8204: i use the actual chrome, i get normal video playback on screen.yahoo.com
[19:35] <milen8204> I must write in my terminal sudo apt-get install chrome ?
[19:37] <holstein> milen8204: nope
[19:37] <milen8204> :D
[19:37] <holstein> milen8204: thats for chromium, whch is why i suggest trying the acutal chrome browser.. then you'll know for certain that the issue is the out of date flash player
[19:38] <milen8204> ok I will look up in the Ubuntu Software center
[19:38] <holstein> https://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/browser/
[19:38] <csenger41> hello
[19:39] <csenger41> please help me, how can I configure gmusicbrowser not to fill up the playlist after each startup with my whole library
[19:40] <milen8204> holstein, ok thanks will try
[19:40] <holstein> milen8204: it literally wont hurt, and im not trying to get you to switch browsers at all :)
[19:41] <laite> csenger41: gmusicbrowser is somewhat different from many other players and uses mainly 'filters' to achieve selections from library. However, you can create new playlists, which stay exactly the way you set them, but I think the 'main' PlayList always has everything from library
[19:41] <csenger41> all I want is an empty playlist after startup
[19:42] <holstein> id probably just not store my music where its looking
[19:42] <holstein> ~/Music or whatever.. just move it from there to somewhere else
[19:43] <milen8204> holstein, no problem I dont get it that way
[19:43] <milen8204> :D
[19:43] <csenger41> i like using gmusicbrowser, its just a waste of time to empty the playlist every single time its launched
[19:44] <holstein> csenger41: some likely consider it a convenience, but you can tweak as you need
[19:44] <csenger41> holstein: but how can I tweak it like that? :S
[19:44] <csenger41> I've tried to find an option to turn this off, but wasn't able
[19:45] <holstein> csenger41: i would just not put my music in the music directory, or i would tell the app to not look there
[19:45] <laite> gmusicbrowser is incredibly versatile player, and unfortunately that makes it a bit hard to learn in the beginning - I haven't had need for exactly that, but you could take a look to layout 'Exaile' (Preferences->Layout->Player window layout->Make it look like->exaile)
[19:45] <csenger41> ok but then I can't browse my music files from the program
[19:45] <laite> it has by default 'static playlist' in there
[19:46] <laite> and you can easily create new, empty lists by right clicking 'playlist 1'-title bar
[19:48] <milen8204> holstein, well done
[19:48] <milen8204> it works
[19:48] <milen8204> whit chrome stable
[19:48] <holstein> milen8204: not sure how to get a more updated version of flash in firefox though...
[19:48] <milen8204> :D
[19:49] <milen8204> I will use chrome as default
[19:49] <milen8204> :D
[19:49] <milen8204> thanks
[19:51] <Marzata> why use Cr?'
[19:51] <csenger41> thanks for the help :)
[19:51] <csenger41> goodbye
[19:56] <milen8204> holstein, clips a littlebit stutter
[19:56] <milen8204> little bit
[19:58] <milen8204> and the browser crashes time to time
[19:58] <holstein> well, flash is subpar in linux at best
[19:59] <milen8204> any ideas why chrome crashes ?
[19:59] <holstein> milen8204: flash
[19:59] <milen8204> :D
[19:59] <milen8204> because flash?
[19:59] <holstein> milen8204: if flash is envolved, its almost certainly flash
[19:59] <Marzata> what are you watching?
[20:00] <Marzata> no browser crashes for me in Xubuntu
[20:00] <holstein> milen8204: its not too crashy for me though.. maybe every 30 vids
[20:01] <milen8204> every time when I try to open facebook
[20:01] <Marzata> and?
[20:01] <holstein> i would try as a different user.. i open facebook no problem
[20:02] <Marzata> milen8204: create one new user, add him to sudo group, try the same
[20:02] <milen8204> ok
[20:03] <Marzata> it's very strange that a browser is crashing while opening the facebook. xubuntu is a pretty stable os.
[20:04] <milen8204> I think so but not for me :D
[20:04] <milen8204> should I log in whit other user ?
[20:04] <milen8204> as administrator ?
[20:04] <Marzata> yes
[20:05] <milen8204> ok will joint after sekond
[20:06] <milen> hello again
[20:07] <Marzata> is it crashing now?
[20:08] <milen> yes
[20:08] <Marzata> milen: and you did a clean Xubuntu 12.04 install?
[20:09] <milen> first time when I tried to join in facebook
[20:09] <milen> Marzata, I had installed alternative
[20:09] <milen> iso file
[20:10] <Marzata> milen: alternate?
[20:10] <milen> not desktop , alternative
[20:10] <Marzata> dunno what is this
[20:11] <milen> when you chose which iso file you will download
[20:11] <milen> on the xubuntu site
[20:12] <Marzata> we have deployed Xubuntu 12.04 to many pc clones and we haven't any browser crashes
[20:14] <milen> It is like I closed the browser
[20:15] <holstein> milen: maybe you did. launch the browser from the terminal and note the output
[20:17] <milen> no i did not but will try to open terminal :D
[20:17] <Marzata> milen: why not install from iso?
[20:18] <Marzata> milen: desktop install, I mean
[20:18] <milen> i did install from ISO
[20:18] <milen> ok
[20:18] <milen> Becouse
[20:20] <milen> in the middle of installation it stopped and a massage has been shown that said there is a error and the installation will stop
[20:20] <Marzata> huh?
[20:20] <Marzata> is your iso, ok?
[20:20] <milen> yes
[20:20] <Marzata> or your hard drive?
[20:20] <milen> i chacked it
[20:21] <milen> whit md5sum
[20:21] <milen> and have CD checked
[20:21] <Marzata> and the hdd?
[20:21] <milen> when it has been booted
[20:21] <milen> hdd did not :D
[20:22] <milen> do you think HDD is the problem ?
[20:22] <Marzata> install disk utility and see if there are any hdd errors
[20:23] <milen> will try
[20:24] <sankey> milen: did you already try opening the browser from terminal?
[20:24] <milen> what should I write in terminal to start chrome ?
[20:24] <sankey> google-chrome
[20:25] <sankey> or firefox
[20:25] <milen> ok
[20:25] <Marzata> milen: looks like this http://karuppuswamy.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Disk-Utility1.png
[20:25] <milen> Marzata, I cant open :D it crashes ;D
[20:26] <holstein> milen: what is the error message?
[20:26] <milen> cant see
[20:26] <sankey> from terminal?
[20:27] <milen> It does not crash now when I have opened whit a terminal :D
[20:27] <Marzata> you can use lynx browser :)
[20:27] <Marzata> it is very fast
[20:28] <holstein> milen: just use it a bit.. theres really no difference
[20:28] <Marzata> and pls, check your hard drive
[20:28] <milen> ok
[20:28] <milen> I have installed disk utility
[20:29] <milen> disk is healthy
[20:30] <milen> everything is good and green :D
[20:30] <sankey> you need to get your browser to crash while opened from terminal
[20:30] <sankey> open ten of them or something
[20:32] <milen> Crash dump id: 7bc880b662cd766c
[20:32] <milen> Aborted (core dumped)
[20:32] <sankey> are those all the error lines?
[20:32] <milen> I have been opened 3 facebooks :D
[20:32] <knome> !pastebin
[20:32] <milen> i think so
[20:32] <knome> (if you have longer pastes...)
[20:33] <milen> knome, I cant use paste bin becouse my browser crashes
[20:33] <knome> milen, we have pastebinit installed by default, but i'm not sure if that works right nwo
[20:33] <knome> *now
[20:33] <milen> i will try to pastebin
[20:33] <knome> yeah, that works
[20:34] <milen> i will try whit firefox it does not crash
[20:35] <sankey> do you prefer chrome? I suggest you just stick with firefox if it works
[20:35] <milen> there is the report: http://pastebin.com/bUDzjb9T
[20:36] <milen> sankey, I use chrome because flash in firefox does not work well
[20:38] <sankey> did you install flash?
[20:38] <sankey> or does it work, just not well?
[20:39] <sankey> also, have you joined the youtube html5 trial?
[20:40] <milen> sankey, yes I joint in html5
[20:40] <milen> and install flash
[20:41] <sankey> is it slower than chrome?
[20:42] <milen> who is slower ?
[20:42] <sankey> flash in firefox, flash in chrome
[20:43] <sankey> you said "does not work well"
[20:43] <milen> flash in firefox dont start, but in chrome is slow
[20:44] <sankey> milen: how did you install flash?
[20:44] <milen> ubuntu software center
[20:44] <milen> and some plugins in firefox
[20:46] <holstein> milen: i dont trust hard drive tests that dont take a few hours to run
[20:47] <sankey> how new is the computer?
[20:47] <sankey> or old
[20:47] <milen> sankey, not so new :D Ithink 10 yeasr
[20:48] <holstein> how much ram?
[20:48] <milen> 1 GB
[20:48] <milen> athlon 1.900 MHZ
[20:48] <milen> radeon 9200
[20:48] <milen> 256 MB
[20:49] <milen> HDD 41 GB
[20:50] <milen> I have new one but need this only for Internet and chat
[20:51] <holstein> that should be plenty for what you are doing
[20:51] <milen> I think so
[20:51] <holstein> i run facebood and flash in chrome on an EEE with a gig of ram... no trouble
[20:51] <holstein> faebook*
[20:51] <holstein> facebook*
[20:54] <milen> ok thanks for the help all I am going to bet tomorrow will find a solution :D
[20:54] <milen> bye
[22:23] <jeffmjack> my xubuntu desktop just went crazy when I started trying to fix video drivers... any suggestions?  Right now I'm thinking easiest thing is to purge/reinstall xfce?  Will that get me anywhere?
[22:26] <Unit193> What would you define as "crazy"?  Did you use jockey when downloading drivers?  What did you do to fix them?  Can you just undo that?
[22:28] <jeffmjack> i didn't use jockey, was doing everything from command line
[22:28] <jeffmjack> tried using ati something-or-other for AMD graphics card, and then got in the weeds when it failed to install correctly
[22:29] <jeffmjack> now, sidebar is missing, top bar is missing, unable to properly configure dual monitors
[22:29] <jeffmjack> at this point, between the different proprietary/non proprietary drivers i've installed/purged at various times, i have no idea where I am
[22:32] <jeffmjack> and by command line, i mean apt-get