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apacheloggertestin'00:02
danttineed to reboot, updated nvidia blob now my app does't run... :P00:03
* dantti imagines if whole kde starts using EGL we will have to reboot every time nvidia is updated :P00:04
apacheloggeroh gawd00:04
apacheloggergood thing I am not using the nvidia :P00:04
apacheloggerdantti: http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=releaseme.git&a=commit&h=8338a6cf29f52f9091da959fd1054409d1e21a3e00:09
danttiapachelogger: cool, thanks :)00:09
apacheloggernp00:09
apacheloggerholy smokes00:12
apacheloggeryofel_: I think you should write a script for mass SRUing ^^00:12
apacheloggerI don't see a way to approve all and everything via the email interface00:12
JontheEchidnaDo the archive admins generally go over the removals.txt list from ftp-master.debian.org, or do we file bugs manually for the things that need removed?00:56
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ScottKapachelogger: We can also fix the window focus thing with a configuration change for KDM.02:12
ScottKJontheEchidna: Generally they go over it, but if you need something $SOON, then a bug is in order.02:13
JontheEchidnaeh, it's not urgent02:14
JontheEchidnakoffice-l10n is still hanging around in Ubuntu, with a few calligra upgrade bugs: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/koffice-l10n/+bugs02:15
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ScottKIt was just removed from Debian this week, so I image they'll get around to it.02:29
apacheloggerScottK: nah, that works around it, it doesn't fix the problem as such :P02:31
ScottKI suppose, but when I've made the change, I've never seen the problem again.02:32
ScottKI don't have a strong opinion on kdm versus lightdm right now.02:32
JontheEchidnaScottK: is qwt5 good for a sync?03:14
ScottKJontheEchidna: I don't know.  I didn't check Ubuntu when I uploaded it.03:44
JontheEchidnak. I just saw that you Touched It Last (tm) in Ubuntu and Debian and wanted to touch base03:45
JontheEchidnaScottK: they look nearly identical/syncable. One thing I'm puzzled about is that you added MultiArch: same to libqwt5-qt4 in Ubuntu, but not in Debian.03:51
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ScottKJontheEchidna: It was a mistake in Ubuntu. Get rid of it.04:05
JontheEchidnaok, a sync it is. the rest of the differences look legit too04:05
ScottKyofel_: I updated the python3 stuff for pykde4 in Debian and did it a bit differently.  You might want to have a look (It'll need a kde4libs patch too).04:52
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Mamarokfolks, there really is a problem with plasma on Precise, here comes another user with no starting plasma: http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=10227709:13
MamarokI also still have to start it manually09:13
yofel_apachelogger: I tried to do the SRU-bugfiling per script yesterday. but launchpad OOPSes when I try to approve the precise tasks09:26
yofel_ScottK: ok, I'll merge that in, thanks09:26
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CIA-42[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdelibs] Philip Muškovac * 410 * debian/ (3 files in 2 dirs) (log message trimmed)09:39
CIA-42* Add support to cmake/modules/PythonMacros.cmake for the environment variable09:39
CIA-42$PYTHONDONTWRITEBYTECODE to work around the lack of support for Python 3 byte09:39
yofelScottK: why would python3-pykde4-dbg break/replace kdebindings-dbg though? That never had any py3 code09:47
yofelScottK: also, don't you need to run dh_sip3?09:49
CIA-42[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/pykde4] Philip Muškovac * 33 * debian/ (5 files in 2 dirs) (log message trimmed)09:59
CIA-42* Merge python3 changes with debian - drop cmake_no_bytecode.diff and instead09:59
CIA-42build-depend on kdelibs5-dev >= 4:4.8.80 which now provides09:59
CIA-42[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/pykde4] Philip Muškovac * 34 * debian/ (control rules) fix description of python3-pykde4-dbg and indentation in rules10:03
apacheloggeryofel: did you iter over all packages, or did you try to approve them all at once?10:59
yofelapachelogger: I don't quite get the API there. I think I nominated them all at once and then just had 1 nomination which I could approve(); I didn't see a way to nominate 1 task, so probably directly adding precise tasks would work. For that I fist need to find out how to get the right task URL that I need to add11:08
yofelbbl11:08
BluesKajHiyas all11:26
apacheloggerlo11:27
apachelogger!sru11:37
ubottuStable Release Update information is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates11:37
ScottKyofel: Good points.  12:55
apacheloggerwe should like have a talk-to-a-dev day or something14:08
apacheloggerDarkwing: claydoh: what does you think14:09
apacheloggerOo14:49
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: pen.setColor(Qt::red);14:49
jtechidnaapachelogger: what about it?14:51
dpmhi Kubuntu folks, I'm sure you guys are familiar with both pyqt and pyside, could someone give me a hand with this question? http://askubuntu.com/questions/140740/should-i-use-pyqt-or-pyside-for-a-new-qt-project14:55
ScottKdpm: Use pyqt.  Upstream support for pyside is pretty much dead as Nokia quit funding it.14:56
apacheloggerjtechidna: why do you hardcode colors in muon?14:57
jtechidnaapachelogger: how else do I get red?14:58
apacheloggerKColorScheme14:58
apacheloggerfixing it right now14:58
jtechidnaaah14:58
jtechidnadidn't know that. was looking at QPalette and found nothing when I did that impl.14:58
apacheloggerhttp://i.imgur.com/bAb8D.png15:00
apacheloggerjtechidna: yeah, kcolorscheme enhances qpalette15:00
apacheloggerin fact you pass it a qpalette to work with ^^15:00
jtechidna^^15:00
dpmthanks ScottK. What do you mean by upstream support, in which aspect is it dead?15:00
apacheloggerhttp://i.imgur.com/c8kem.png15:00
jtechidnaapachelogger: thx15:01
ScottKdpm: pyside is a project Nokia started to have a LGPL set of Python bindings.  AIUI, as their focus have changed, they stopped funding development and there's not a large community around it.15:01
dpmwas there not another company behind it that continued development?15:02
apacheloggerjtechidna: surely you must have a bug for this somewhere15:03
jtechidnaapachelogger: nope, I don't think anybody ever filed a bug about that15:03
apacheloggercurious15:03
apacheloggerit's like the most annoying thing when I have my monthly dark color week ^^15:03
apacheloggerdpm: nah15:05
apacheloggerwell, unless you mean openbossa which is a project of indt which is run by nokia15:06
apacheloggerthough I think pyside had one independent free dev at one point or another ^^15:07
apacheloggerdpm: so really it boils down to whether it is maintained or not and eitherway pyqt is the one that seems more future proof in that regard15:09
ScottKdpm: No.15:11
apacheloggerjtechidna: http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=muon.git&a=commit&h=f4c4827bd50464c4216ad40fb385ed7b81053e4d15:19
jtechidnathx15:20
apacheloggeryw15:20
* apachelogger wonders what to have for lunch^Wsupper15:20
jtechidnahehe15:20
jtechidnaI think I'll step out for lunch in a bit here too15:20
dpmThanks for the info ScottK and apachelogger, I'll add it to the question in askubuntu15:24
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Ezimhi. when will the point release and the new kubuntu isos come out? next month?16:08
rbelemdpm, indt is the company that supports pyside16:15
dpmhi rbelem, so what would your answer to the question be? :-) http://askubuntu.com/questions/140740/should-i-use-pyqt-or-pyside-for-a-new-qt-project16:17
shadeslayerdpm: are you planning on using QML?16:30
shadeslayerpyside had better QML support iirc16:30
shadeslayer( Note, this was about 10 months back )16:30
* shadeslayer hasn't read the question though, still opening16:31
shadeslayerdpm: uh yeah, definitely pyside, QML was much better in pyside16:32
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afiestashey, any idea of how can I fix this issue? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepim/+bug/96691318:38
ubottuLaunchpad bug 966913 in kdepim (Ubuntu) "Akonadi contact resource wrong defaults" [High,Confirmed]18:38
afiestaswe should fix it in 12.04.1 I think18:38
yofeloh fun18:45
yofelsmokekde was removed from the packageset o.O18:45
yofelah18:46
yofelwe *did* get demoted to universe18:46
yofelScottK: still poke cjwatson about packageset stuff?18:47
ScottKAFAIK, yes.18:47
ScottKyofel: BTW, uploaded pykde4 again in Debian.  Thanks again.18:47
yofelyw18:48
debfxyofel: are you sure? I still see lots of packages in main18:49
yofel!info kdelibs5 quantal18:49
ubottukdelibs5 (source: kde4libs): transitional package for the KDE Development Platform libraries. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:4.8.3-0ubuntu1 (quantal), package size 20 kB, installed size 188 kB18:49
yofeluniverse ^18:49
yofelongoing process I guess18:49
debfxthat's just a binary package18:49
* afiestas feels ignored :3318:49
yofelhm, true18:50
yofelsmokekde IS in universe though now18:51
yofelhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/smokekde18:51
debfxaccording to lp it always was in universe18:51
yofelor was that manually added to the set before?18:51
yofelmaybe just me being confused then -.-18:52
debfxafaik the kubuntu packageset only contains packages from main18:53
* yofel wonders if we could at least fix *that* now - if that doesn't have to wait until the archive reorg18:54
ScottKBeing in the Kubuntu packageset is enough to drag something into Main (at least historically).19:01
debfxScottK: no, being in the kubuntu seed drags package into main19:02
debfxqtmobility (universe) is in the packageset so manual exceptions for universe packages are certainly possible19:02
ScottKOh.  Good point.19:03
Sputdebfx: a while ago you contributed patches to quassel regarding SSL cert handling. do you think those are worthy of being backported to 0.8, hence the stable branch, or would they be considered a feature that stays in master?19:32
debfxSput: I'd consider them as bugfixes but I guess it's a corner case19:37
Sputdebfx: well, *I* don't care, you guys need to know if you'd take them in a stable update :)19:39
SputI'll cherry-pick them if you say it's ok/desired19:39
debfxSput: they are already part of the ubuntu package19:40
Sputdebfx: ok, then I'll just include them for 0.8.1, thx19:40
yofelScottK: I uploaded 4.8.3 (except blinken, cantor and l10n) to precise-proposed if you could look at it. Please reject my first kwordquiz upload, I uploaded that twice by mistake19:44
ScottKyofel: Reject done.  I don't really have time to review it today.19:49
yofelthanks, no hurry19:50
ScottKIf you can give me  a list of .dsc's of the pacakges you can't upload (non-l10n), I'll upload them.19:52
CIA-42[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-runtime] Philip Muškovac * 275 * debian/ (7 files in 2 dirs) (log message trimmed)21:02
CIA-42* Merge with debian git, remaining changes: - add kde-runtime.[postinst,prerm]21:02
CIA-42for update-alternatives kdesu - debian/control: + Remove libqzeitgeist-dev21:02
apacheloggeryofel: https://projects.kde.org/projects/playground/base/xsettings-kde22:20
yofel\o/22:21
yofel*blink*22:21
yofelwhen did projects.kde.org get a new UI o.O?22:21
apacheloggerdunno22:21
apacheloggerlike a month ago or so22:21
JontheEchidnawhen an update for the framework broke the theme22:22
yofelheh22:22
apacheloggerwell, didn't they use redmine before?22:22
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: also http://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?57772-Muon-colours-anyone22:23
apacheloggerI always find it fun how people complain about bugs in all the wrong channels22:23
JontheEchidnaoh yeah, that22:23
apacheloggerhence why I think we should do regular talk-to-a-dev days22:23
apacheloggerclaydoh: you may want to mention http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=muon.git&a=commit&h=f4c4827bd50464c4216ad40fb385ed7b81053e4d here http://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?58539-Theme-consistency-on-the-desktop22:25
apacheloggeralso that thread does not compute22:25
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apacheloggeri.e. LightDM is part of the pre-workspace experience, how would that thing know about workspace depnendent settings22:26

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