[00:02] <apachelogger> testin'
[00:03] <dantti> need to reboot, updated nvidia blob now my app does't run... :P
[00:04]  * dantti imagines if whole kde starts using EGL we will have to reboot every time nvidia is updated :P
[00:04] <apachelogger> oh gawd
[00:04] <apachelogger> good thing I am not using the nvidia :P
[00:09] <apachelogger> dantti: http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=releaseme.git&a=commit&h=8338a6cf29f52f9091da959fd1054409d1e21a3e
[00:09] <dantti> apachelogger: cool, thanks :)
[00:09] <apachelogger> np
[00:12] <apachelogger> holy smokes
[00:12] <apachelogger> yofel_: I think you should write a script for mass SRUing ^^
[00:12] <apachelogger> I don't see a way to approve all and everything via the email interface
[00:56] <JontheEchidna> Do the archive admins generally go over the removals.txt list from ftp-master.debian.org, or do we file bugs manually for the things that need removed?
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[02:12] <ScottK> apachelogger: We can also fix the window focus thing with a configuration change for KDM.
[02:13] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: Generally they go over it, but if you need something $SOON, then a bug is in order.
[02:14] <JontheEchidna> eh, it's not urgent
[02:15] <JontheEchidna> koffice-l10n is still hanging around in Ubuntu, with a few calligra upgrade bugs: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/koffice-l10n/+bugs
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[02:29] <ScottK> It was just removed from Debian this week, so I image they'll get around to it.
[02:31] <apachelogger> ScottK: nah, that works around it, it doesn't fix the problem as such :P
[02:32] <ScottK> I suppose, but when I've made the change, I've never seen the problem again.
[02:32] <ScottK> I don't have a strong opinion on kdm versus lightdm right now.
[03:14] <JontheEchidna> ScottK: is qwt5 good for a sync?
[03:44] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: I don't know.  I didn't check Ubuntu when I uploaded it.
[03:45] <JontheEchidna> k. I just saw that you Touched It Last (tm) in Ubuntu and Debian and wanted to touch base
[03:51] <JontheEchidna> ScottK: they look nearly identical/syncable. One thing I'm puzzled about is that you added MultiArch: same to libqwt5-qt4 in Ubuntu, but not in Debian.
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[04:05] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: It was a mistake in Ubuntu. Get rid of it.
[04:05] <JontheEchidna> ok, a sync it is. the rest of the differences look legit too
[04:52] <ScottK> yofel_: I updated the python3 stuff for pykde4 in Debian and did it a bit differently.  You might want to have a look (It'll need a kde4libs patch too).
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[09:13] <Mamarok> folks, there really is a problem with plasma on Precise, here comes another user with no starting plasma: http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=102277
[09:13] <Mamarok> I also still have to start it manually
[09:26] <yofel_> apachelogger: I tried to do the SRU-bugfiling per script yesterday. but launchpad OOPSes when I try to approve the precise tasks
[09:26] <yofel_> ScottK: ok, I'll merge that in, thanks
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[09:39] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdelibs] Philip Muškovac * 410 * debian/ (3 files in 2 dirs) (log message trimmed)
[09:39] <CIA-42> * Add support to cmake/modules/PythonMacros.cmake for the environment variable
[09:39] <CIA-42> $PYTHONDONTWRITEBYTECODE to work around the lack of support for Python 3 byte
[09:47] <yofel> ScottK: why would python3-pykde4-dbg break/replace kdebindings-dbg though? That never had any py3 code
[09:49] <yofel> ScottK: also, don't you need to run dh_sip3?
[09:59] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/pykde4] Philip Muškovac * 33 * debian/ (5 files in 2 dirs) (log message trimmed)
[09:59] <CIA-42> * Merge python3 changes with debian - drop cmake_no_bytecode.diff and instead
[09:59] <CIA-42> build-depend on kdelibs5-dev >= 4:4.8.80 which now provides
[10:03] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/pykde4] Philip Muškovac * 34 * debian/ (control rules) fix description of python3-pykde4-dbg and indentation in rules
[10:59] <apachelogger> yofel: did you iter over all packages, or did you try to approve them all at once?
[11:08] <yofel> apachelogger: I don't quite get the API there. I think I nominated them all at once and then just had 1 nomination which I could approve(); I didn't see a way to nominate 1 task, so probably directly adding precise tasks would work. For that I fist need to find out how to get the right task URL that I need to add
[11:08] <yofel> bbl
[11:26] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:27] <apachelogger> lo
[11:37] <apachelogger> !sru
[11:37] <ubottu> Stable Release Update information is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates
[12:55] <ScottK> yofel: Good points.  
[14:08] <apachelogger> we should like have a talk-to-a-dev day or something
[14:09] <apachelogger> Darkwing: claydoh: what does you think
[14:49] <apachelogger> Oo
[14:49] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: pen.setColor(Qt::red);
[14:51] <jtechidna> apachelogger: what about it?
[14:55] <dpm> hi Kubuntu folks, I'm sure you guys are familiar with both pyqt and pyside, could someone give me a hand with this question? http://askubuntu.com/questions/140740/should-i-use-pyqt-or-pyside-for-a-new-qt-project
[14:56] <ScottK> dpm: Use pyqt.  Upstream support for pyside is pretty much dead as Nokia quit funding it.
[14:57] <apachelogger> jtechidna: why do you hardcode colors in muon?
[14:58] <jtechidna> apachelogger: how else do I get red?
[14:58] <apachelogger> KColorScheme
[14:58] <apachelogger> fixing it right now
[14:58] <jtechidna> aah
[14:58] <jtechidna> didn't know that. was looking at QPalette and found nothing when I did that impl.
[15:00] <apachelogger> http://i.imgur.com/bAb8D.png
[15:00] <apachelogger> jtechidna: yeah, kcolorscheme enhances qpalette
[15:00] <apachelogger> in fact you pass it a qpalette to work with ^^
[15:00] <jtechidna> ^^
[15:00] <dpm> thanks ScottK. What do you mean by upstream support, in which aspect is it dead?
[15:00] <apachelogger> http://i.imgur.com/c8kem.png
[15:01] <jtechidna> apachelogger: thx
[15:01] <ScottK> dpm: pyside is a project Nokia started to have a LGPL set of Python bindings.  AIUI, as their focus have changed, they stopped funding development and there's not a large community around it.
[15:02] <dpm> was there not another company behind it that continued development?
[15:03] <apachelogger> jtechidna: surely you must have a bug for this somewhere
[15:03] <jtechidna> apachelogger: nope, I don't think anybody ever filed a bug about that
[15:03] <apachelogger> curious
[15:03] <apachelogger> it's like the most annoying thing when I have my monthly dark color week ^^
[15:05] <apachelogger> dpm: nah
[15:06] <apachelogger> well, unless you mean openbossa which is a project of indt which is run by nokia
[15:07] <apachelogger> though I think pyside had one independent free dev at one point or another ^^
[15:09] <apachelogger> dpm: so really it boils down to whether it is maintained or not and eitherway pyqt is the one that seems more future proof in that regard
[15:11] <ScottK> dpm: No.
[15:19] <apachelogger> jtechidna: http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=muon.git&a=commit&h=f4c4827bd50464c4216ad40fb385ed7b81053e4d
[15:20] <jtechidna> thx
[15:20] <apachelogger> yw
[15:20]  * apachelogger wonders what to have for lunch^Wsupper
[15:20] <jtechidna> hehe
[15:20] <jtechidna> I think I'll step out for lunch in a bit here too
[15:24] <dpm> Thanks for the info ScottK and apachelogger, I'll add it to the question in askubuntu
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[16:08] <Ezim> hi. when will the point release and the new kubuntu isos come out? next month?
[16:15] <rbelem> dpm, indt is the company that supports pyside
[16:17] <dpm> hi rbelem, so what would your answer to the question be? :-) http://askubuntu.com/questions/140740/should-i-use-pyqt-or-pyside-for-a-new-qt-project
[16:30] <shadeslayer> dpm: are you planning on using QML?
[16:30] <shadeslayer> pyside had better QML support iirc
[16:30] <shadeslayer> ( Note, this was about 10 months back )
[16:31]  * shadeslayer hasn't read the question though, still opening
[16:32] <shadeslayer> dpm: uh yeah, definitely pyside, QML was much better in pyside
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[18:38] <afiestas> hey, any idea of how can I fix this issue? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepim/+bug/966913
[18:38] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 966913 in kdepim (Ubuntu) "Akonadi contact resource wrong defaults" [High,Confirmed]
[18:38] <afiestas> we should fix it in 12.04.1 I think
[18:45] <yofel> oh fun
[18:45] <yofel> smokekde was removed from the packageset o.O
[18:46] <yofel> ah
[18:46] <yofel> we *did* get demoted to universe
[18:47] <yofel> ScottK: still poke cjwatson about packageset stuff?
[18:47] <ScottK> AFAIK, yes.
[18:47] <ScottK> yofel: BTW, uploaded pykde4 again in Debian.  Thanks again.
[18:48] <yofel> yw
[18:49] <debfx> yofel: are you sure? I still see lots of packages in main
[18:49] <yofel> !info kdelibs5 quantal
[18:49] <ubottu> kdelibs5 (source: kde4libs): transitional package for the KDE Development Platform libraries. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:4.8.3-0ubuntu1 (quantal), package size 20 kB, installed size 188 kB
[18:49] <yofel> universe ^
[18:49] <yofel> ongoing process I guess
[18:49] <debfx> that's just a binary package
[18:49]  * afiestas feels ignored :33
[18:50] <yofel> hm, true
[18:51] <yofel> smokekde IS in universe though now
[18:51] <yofel> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/smokekde
[18:51] <debfx> according to lp it always was in universe
[18:51] <yofel> or was that manually added to the set before?
[18:52] <yofel> maybe just me being confused then -.-
[18:53] <debfx> afaik the kubuntu packageset only contains packages from main
[18:54]  * yofel wonders if we could at least fix *that* now - if that doesn't have to wait until the archive reorg
[19:01] <ScottK> Being in the Kubuntu packageset is enough to drag something into Main (at least historically).
[19:02] <debfx> ScottK: no, being in the kubuntu seed drags package into main
[19:02] <debfx> qtmobility (universe) is in the packageset so manual exceptions for universe packages are certainly possible
[19:03] <ScottK> Oh.  Good point.
[19:32] <Sput> debfx: a while ago you contributed patches to quassel regarding SSL cert handling. do you think those are worthy of being backported to 0.8, hence the stable branch, or would they be considered a feature that stays in master?
[19:37] <debfx> Sput: I'd consider them as bugfixes but I guess it's a corner case
[19:39] <Sput> debfx: well, *I* don't care, you guys need to know if you'd take them in a stable update :)
[19:39] <Sput> I'll cherry-pick them if you say it's ok/desired
[19:40] <debfx> Sput: they are already part of the ubuntu package
[19:40] <Sput> debfx: ok, then I'll just include them for 0.8.1, thx
[19:44] <yofel> ScottK: I uploaded 4.8.3 (except blinken, cantor and l10n) to precise-proposed if you could look at it. Please reject my first kwordquiz upload, I uploaded that twice by mistake
[19:49] <ScottK> yofel: Reject done.  I don't really have time to review it today.
[19:50] <yofel> thanks, no hurry
[19:52] <ScottK> If you can give me  a list of .dsc's of the pacakges you can't upload (non-l10n), I'll upload them.
[21:02] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-runtime] Philip Muškovac * 275 * debian/ (7 files in 2 dirs) (log message trimmed)
[21:02] <CIA-42> * Merge with debian git, remaining changes: - add kde-runtime.[postinst,prerm]
[21:02] <CIA-42> for update-alternatives kdesu - debian/control: + Remove libqzeitgeist-dev
[22:20] <apachelogger> yofel: https://projects.kde.org/projects/playground/base/xsettings-kde
[22:21] <yofel> \o/
[22:21] <yofel> *blink*
[22:21] <yofel> when did projects.kde.org get a new UI o.O?
[22:21] <apachelogger> dunno
[22:21] <apachelogger> like a month ago or so
[22:22] <JontheEchidna> when an update for the framework broke the theme
[22:22] <yofel> heh
[22:22] <apachelogger> well, didn't they use redmine before?
[22:23] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: also http://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?57772-Muon-colours-anyone
[22:23] <apachelogger> I always find it fun how people complain about bugs in all the wrong channels
[22:23] <JontheEchidna> oh yeah, that
[22:23] <apachelogger> hence why I think we should do regular talk-to-a-dev days
[22:25] <apachelogger> claydoh: you may want to mention http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=muon.git&a=commit&h=f4c4827bd50464c4216ad40fb385ed7b81053e4d here http://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?58539-Theme-consistency-on-the-desktop
[22:25] <apachelogger> also that thread does not compute
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[22:26] <apachelogger> i.e. LightDM is part of the pre-workspace experience, how would that thing know about workspace depnendent settings