=== fenris is now known as Guest25535 === Guest25535 is now known as ejat === jalcine is now known as Jacky [06:26] good morning all [06:57] aloha [06:57] hello [07:06] good morning [07:21] morning dholbach [07:22] hey dpm [07:53] night all! === njin is now known as njin1 === njin1 is now known as njin2 === njin2 is now known as njin [08:16] i [08:53] j [09:27] Hello community [09:27] herrro folks [09:29] How are you today czajkowski ? Glorious out isn't it? [09:30] pretty over cast here in London, but I suspect there is some heat out there [09:30] the office is roasting! [10:16] dpm, Alter - hast Du gleich mal 5 Minuten für 'nen Hangout? [10:16] ja klar [10:17] ja super - jetzt oder gleich? [10:18] dholbach, beides [10:18] ok, dann mal los :) [10:19] :) [12:58] popey: [12:58] hey so, what's your HDD layout on your HP? [12:59] 4 x 2tb drives w/ RAID 1? [12:59] 8x2TB RAID 1 btrfs [12:59] 4 internal, 4 external [12:59] so 8tb total? [12:59] thereabouts [12:59] ok, so you lose half of them for mirror [12:59] ya [12:59] hmm, I think I'll need to wait for RAID5 in btrfs [13:00] yeah [13:00] though I watched the video from Chris Mason [13:00] of a recent talk [13:00] it can do live RAID migrations [13:00] like he moved from 0 to 1 and back [13:00] I wonder if you'll be able to just move to 5 [13:01] url? [13:01] http://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_3.4 [13:01] section 1.1 [13:01] no i mean the video :D [13:01] section 1.1 [13:02] has links [13:02] ah [13:09] popey: it's an excellent talk [13:09] I'm enjoying running btrfs [13:10] its like a free software drobo [13:32] dpm: http://files.quickmediasolutions.com/userscripts/au_toolbar.user.js [13:32] install that, and then you can do software center links in Chrome [13:32] he has 2 buttons, one for the big "install me on software center", and the other one is a smaller inline one [13:34] Hey jcastro , how are you doing? [13:34] hi, good, you? [13:35] pretty good thanks jcastro . Just busy with sql, php and ajax. Web dev bread and butter work really :) [13:36] heh [13:36] s-fox: you should learn python and django [13:36] mhall119, I can use python [13:37] cause we need more webdevs on LTP and summit :) [13:37] daker: how are you getting on with LP ? [13:37] jcastro, wow [13:37] ugh, why must the dog sleep where my elbow should be? [13:38] * dpm tries the script [13:38] mhall119, any docs on what is needed? [13:38] s-fox: blueprints and bugs [13:38] ask daker about LTP work, and cjohnston about Summit work [13:38] dpm: it's sort of not finished, I'd like to put the images behind a short URL so if we ever need new buttons we can just swap it out [13:38] join #ubuntu-website for both [13:38] mhall119, i think that implies i like the whole orange look ;) [13:39] s-fox: as long as you do the work, I don't think we're gonna care if you like it or not ;) [13:40] i couldn't see myself working on something i don't like mhall119 :) [13:40] you can work on the non-orange parts then [13:41] jcastro, I've installed it, but how do I actually use it? Shall I just go and try to edit a question? [13:41] dpm: it'll show above the question text-box [13:41] s-fox: ask mhall119 about summit, not me. :-) [13:43] Hey cjohnston , hows life treating you? Still with the fire department? [13:43] mhall119, ah nice, thanks [13:44] busy busy busy.. unfortunatly I still am.. getting ready for a forced break from everything though.. yourself? [13:45] very busy with work. juggling 2 large projects both set to launch next month [13:45] * s-fox presses the panic button [13:45] :D [13:46] "forced break" meaning "Fly to Hong Kong to support Linaro Connect"? [13:47] jcastro, interesting userscript. the forum moderators and admins have a few on our site. really handy [13:48] mhall119: the surgery after I get back [13:49] oh, right [13:51] at pre-op now [13:52] ask the doc how long until you can get back to coding [13:53] he said as soon as you fix render.py [13:54] there is no cure to render.py, the only option is to cut it out [13:54] mhall119: blake asleep on you? [13:55] czajkowski: under me :/ [13:56] mhall119: not budging is he [13:56] cjohnston: what op? [13:57] sinus surgery [13:57] ahh [13:57] fun times [13:57] yippie [14:03] ooh render.py. There be dragons. [14:03] and fire [14:05] and Python code that looks like C [14:07] hey cprofitt :) [14:07] sounds like a perfect task for mhall119 [14:19] czajkowski, i can't find an easy bug to fix ツ [14:20] ah now [14:24] daker-cloud: https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/72981 ? [14:24] Launchpad bug 72981 in launchpad "adding a task should not change the context" [Low,Triaged] [14:25] daker-cloud: join #launchpad [14:28] czajkowski, all the trivial bugs need some internal fixes or ui changes which something i don't know [15:00] hey all [15:00] dholbach, dpm, jcastro, balloons, mhall119 al set? [15:01] Señor Jamón! [15:01] lol [15:01] lol [15:01] yep :) [15:01] lolol [15:01] :-) [15:01] #startmeeting [15:01] Meeting started Tue May 22 15:01:20 2012 UTC. The chair is jono. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [15:01] Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired [15:01] hey [15:01] welcome one and all to the Canonical Community Team meeting! [15:02] prepare yourselves for a blistering series of summaries of all the hard work going on over the last week [15:02] first up.... [15:02] ...first he will create your QR code...and then he will create a special place in your heart... [15:02] ...dpm! [15:02] hahaha [15:02] :-) [15:03] ok, here we go [15:03] • Prepared 12.10 blueprints [15:03] • Started reviewing 12.10 blueprint actions with mhall119 [15:04] • Reviewed 12.10 blueprints with Jono, got them approved [15:04] • Spent some time promoting and using AskUbuntu for app development [15:04] Quite pleased to see the buzz growing and it becoming a really useful resource for app developers [15:05] • Published monthly top 10 app downloads post (http://developer.ubuntu.com/2012/05/top-10-ubuntu-app-downloads-for-april-2012/) [15:05] • Had a call with dholbach to discuss Packaging Guide translations [15:05] • Got toghether Paolo Sammicheli and angeloc to work on a Quickly QtQuick template [15:05] • Reminded KenVandine again about writing the social network integration tutorial for d.u.c [15:06] sorry, xchat not behaving [15:07] • Spent some of my 20% time to work on QRCreator [15:07] Happy to see it got reddit'ed even before announcing it :) [15:07] and I think that was it for me this week [15:08] thanks, dpm! [15:08] any questions for dpm? [15:09] \o/ [15:09] alrighty! [15:09] ah, jono, here's a heads up for you [15:09] oh? [15:09] you know we talked about pyside and a quickly template? [15:09] yup [15:09] I'm trying to find out more about it and PyQt [15:10] ok [15:10] pyside? [15:10] so I've just posted this, which will hopefully help giving some insight [15:10] mhall119, free Python bindings for Qt [15:10] ah, ok [15:10] http://askubuntu.com/questions/140740/should-i-use-pyqt-or-pyside-for-a-new-qt-project [15:10] dpm, cool :-) [15:10] FYI, there was a qt application quickly template submitted some time ago, didrocks said it looked fine as a quickly template, but wanted someone to review it's Qt-correctness [15:10] anyway, that was it, I'm trying to get a feel for what the best technology is [15:10] bzoltan was going to review it [15:11] well the problem with PyQt is that it is not fully free [15:11] he did already during UDS [15:11] also it's Qt 4, and we're going to want a Qt 5 template [15:11] dpm: ah, great [15:11] (he was quite pleased with it) [15:11] mhall119, why Qt 5, it is onl in Alpha [15:12] jono: that's wht they want to use for the SDK, evidently it adds a lot of nice things we're going to want [15:12] ok [15:12] right [15:12] alrighty [15:12] next up! [15:12] Qt5 -- uhh, because it's shiny! [15:13] also it has opengl support I think [15:13] ...prepare for a status update to the soundtrack of alivechicken [15:13] dholbach! [15:13] * dholbach storms out [15:13] lol [15:13] lol [15:14] dholbach? [15:14] he decided to bail [15:15] lol [15:15] :-) [15:15] how embarrassing [15:15] I wanted to join right after again [15:15] but then my router crashed [15:15] and I had to reboot it [15:15] dholbach is such premadonna [15:15] ouch ouch [15:15] ok, here we go :) [15:15] :-) [15:15] in exchange you get a nice soundtrack along with the notes: http://soundcloud.com/stevenmoove/third-degree-cant-get-you-out :) [15:16] there are some notes in there which are a bit older than last week, I hope I won't bore you [15:16] ☺ Dev initiatives: announced MOTU meetings, put together list of tasks for first bug fixing initiative, asked for feedback. [15:16] ☺ Dev Advisory Team: reached out to a number of contributors. Some team organisation discussions (reorganising the trello board, having a meeting, etc.) - watched 5 folks getting upload rights! :-D [15:16] ☺ Dev News: got out the final 12.04 dev update post. Discussions about new format. [15:16] ☺ Sponsoring: scheduled the next month of patch piloting. [15:17] ☺ Dev Docs: blogged about our progress, reviewed a couple of merge proposals - almost ready to get it into the archive. Had a call with dpm about translations. [15:17] ☺ Community Council: CC meeting, more CoC draft review. Follow-up on RMB restaffing. [15:17] ☺ 12.10 preparation: UDS! Put blueprints together, all approved, now just minor fixes to the wording. [15:17] ☺ Apps: call with dpm about ARB priority bugs. Discussions with the MyApps and ARB teams about bug priorities - now we have a good shopping list. Good news: soon all apps in all states can be seen in MyApps again, also we'll get released apps off the list. Talked with David and Michael about related UDS blueprints. Updated and improved https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OptRequirement - Filed more blueprints, talked to MyApps and ARB member [15:17] s about them. Blogged about the importance of apps in Ubuntu. Had a call with James Westby about pkgme and its future in the bigger scheme of things. Had a call with dpm about apps and brought up the idea of having a quick call with mhall119 and dpm every week. [15:18] ☺ Misc: updated https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/Credits/Developers - upgraded holba.ch server to precise, worked without problems. Reached Inbox Zero before UDS - now things look a tiny little bit worse. Upgraded my sister's laptop - worked without problems. Dug into a problem with upload statistics - fixed it, but decided to port everything to Django database - got the import almost sorted out. Gave 2 Ubuntu [15:18] Open Week sessions. Helped Yolanda with OpenERP packaging. === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach [15:18] and that's it from me :) [15:19] nicely done.. didn't miss a beat even while dc'ing [15:19] any questions for dholbach? [15:19] should the glade translations issue be added to the /OptRequirement wiki? [15:19] or are we pretty much done regarding that question [15:20] mhall119, dpm and I had a chat and we decided to file bugs on the relevant ubuntu packages and tag them 'arb' [15:20] ok [15:20] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=arb should have that one already [15:20] or, hum - maybe it doesn't [15:20] actually, it hasn't, I filed it for upstream gtk [15:21] ok [15:21] ugh, is quickly still using python central? [15:21] not sure [15:21] * mhall119 spies 2 bugs for that still [15:21] or, one bug listed twice, which is weird in and of itself [15:22] LP lists bug tasks [15:22] oh, different packages, I see [15:22] I think the summary is that we should work with the quickly hackers to get the tools in shape and the fixes SRU'd [15:22] agreed [15:22] +1 [15:22] now if only we had quickly hackers [15:22] lets find some :-) [15:22] we can work on that [15:22] yeah :) [15:22] +2 [15:22] :) [15:22] :-) [15:23] any more questions for dholbach? [15:23] alrighty! [15:23] next up... [15:23] ...if it runs, it will run in the Ubuntu Software Center because of this guy.... [15:23] ...mhall119! [15:24] installs through the software center [15:24] :) [15:24] Blueprints cleaning and review with dpm and jono [15:24] Inceptional [15:24] 58 work items, a little more than 2 per week, should keep me busy for a while [15:25] Working with TV community to get contributions started [15:25] I'm really excited to see the Canonical and Community teams working together on this [15:25] Working with TV community to get contributions started [15:25] 820 and climbing! [15:26] whoops, copy/paste fail [15:26] Building up my Ask Ubuntu karma by cleaning up and answering questions [15:26] 820 and climbing! [15:26] Added Radio and Checkbox menu items to Hello Unity quicklists [15:26] ^^ spurred on by needing an answer to one of those AU questions [15:26] (didn't even know you could do this with quicklists) [15:27] More work on django_juju side project to generate charms for Django sites [15:27] working on getting my LXC setup working so I can test it [15:27] jcastro: you're going to like this once it's working :) [15:27] nice [15:27] Followup with ScottL and Oren about Vudu next steps [15:27] Followup with Forums Council about new App Developer forum [15:28] meeting tomorrow evening to discuss their questions and concerns [15:28] Added CLI arguments and static Quicklist to dpm's qreator [15:28] * mhall119 ends [15:28] \o/ [15:28] that was awesome [15:28] qreator is awesome [15:28] thanks mhall119 [15:28] any questions for mhall119? [15:30] ok [15:30] thnaks mhall119! [15:30] next up... [15:30] ...he will leave no stone un-charmed...prepare for war...it is jcastro! [15:31] \m/ WELCOME TO MY STATUS REPORT!!!! \m/ [15:31] today's report brought to you by RUSH: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1I2gmT3rarY [15:31] - Blueprints, review is today, so I will have my finalized items [15:31] - Redoing the charm process as we started off with 34(!) things to review [15:31] - Stole Daniel's work: [15:31] https://juju.ubuntu.com/CharmsProposedProcess [15:32] http://jujucharms.com/review-queue [15:32] We started the day with 34 items [15:32] nice work! [15:32] and then I tested it and broke it, there are like 10 missing things [15:32] but that's fine, we'll sort it. [15:32] along with proposing that: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/juju/2012-May/001637.html [15:33] - I am working on some Charm Store governance: https://juju.ubuntu.com/CharmStoreCouncil [15:33] not yet proposed though [15:33] - Coming up this week: Event review with Robbie/MSM: https://juju.ubuntu.com/Events [15:34] so that's basically the week, boostrapping the new review processes so we can start working on the queue [15:34] questions? [15:34] any questions for jcastro? [15:34] jcastro, are you also setting up a pilot schedule on gcal or do you do something cleverer? [15:34] nope [15:34] exact stealing from you, so a pilot cal [15:34] ah ok, cool [15:35] let me know if you improve it somehow ;-) [15:35] <3 [15:35] alright [15:35] next up... [15:35] ...if it crashes...he will kill it...balloons! [15:36] YESH! [15:36] * mhall119 makes a mental note to drive carefully when balloons is around [15:36] always [15:36] alrighty, so brain dump time [15:36] In keeping with the theme of the week I was preparing, scheming and planning for 12.10 [15:37] * Recruiting mhall119 and dpm to help review my blueprints and give advice (thanks guys!) [15:37] my pleasure :) [15:37] * Bug jono about said blueprints [15:37] * Have jono also bug me about said blueprints :-) [15:37] * (Pending not too distant future, crossing fingers) Have jono approve my blueprints [15:37] * Meet with gema, kate, stephane and joe to discuss and move forward with the isotracker testcae management blueprint. Discuss new UI details, walkthrough use cases and review current progress on development site. [15:38] * checked out hexr (which is a hardware database with a web frontend), as part of research to deploy a public instance. Followed up with pgraner and scheduled time with jk to talk further about technologies used [15:39] * Spoke with U+1 team about adopting ubuntu friendly as a resource for hardware information, specifically utilizing it for focused testing within there team for help and support [15:39] * Spoke with ev about whoopsie, discussed how it might integrate with QA, agreed to publicize errors.ubuntu.com. Planning to blog about details with how whoopsie works [15:39] * Had a day off and went to my college roomate's wedding :-) [15:40] * Blogged post about high level plans for cycle from blueprints and UDS ;-) And pictures! [15:40] * Created a wiki page about me in preparation for ubuntu membership! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/balloons [15:40] \o/ [15:40] * dholbach will add comments to it! [15:41] ;-) [15:41] all comments are appreciated [15:41] hopefully, I can get on the schedule for June once the boards are back in place [15:42] and that's it from me [15:42] June? [15:42] is that the next meeting? [15:42] yes, I believe they will be starting again in June [15:42] jono, we're restaffing/reorganising the RMBs [15:42] ahhh yes [15:42] so yes, the next meeting [15:42] cool [15:43] anything else balloons? [15:43] nope, that be all [15:43] methinks [15:43] thanks balloons [15:43] any questions for balloons? [15:44] alirghty! [15:44] well, I will wrap this up [15:44] * Mainly spent the week catching up with the post-UDS email and meetings. Nice to be at home as opposed to running around a conference venue like a madman. [15:44] * Team: [15:44] - Worked with the team to get their 12.10 blueprints in place. [15:45] - Nearly everyone's is completed now - will be blogging about it soon. [15:45] - Completed all of the performance review meetings. [15:45] - Started coordinating some travel arrangements around various events. [15:45] * QA: [15:45] - Spent some time discussing QA stakeholder requirements. [15:45] - In 12.10 we will primarily be focusing on (1) ISO testing, and (2) special experiences (e.g. running a later kernel on 12.04). [15:45] - Discussed with balloons how we can develop a process for planning and coordinating this work. [15:45] * Consumer Apps: [15:45] - Started flashing out a planning document for getting flash games in the Ubuntu Software Center - gathered input from Consumer Apps, Legal, and elsewhere. [15:46] - Further promo of the EA games. [15:46] - Started discussing with Consumer Apps about another exciting prospect coming to the USC. [15:46] * Ubuntu Accomplishments: [15:46] - Lots of hacking in the evening this week, see http://www.jonobacon.org/2012/05/22/heading-towards-0-2/ for details. [15:46] - Local accomplishments are running now, which means apps can trigger trophies - see the video demo at http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=GDxpqX4Szl0 [15:46] any questions for me? [15:46] no questions here [15:47] I think I'm all set [15:47] * mhall119 is good [15:47] are we still planning the move to #ubuntu-meeting for this meeting? [15:47] the meeting we just finished? [15:47] I haven't seen a # endmeeting yet ;-) [15:48] :-) [15:48] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-community-team to: Work Items: http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/canonical-community.html || Don't forget to "flesh them out a little bit" || Community Trello: http://goo.gl/n4or5 (experiment) || Things to work on (in order): work items || dpm's channel: http://goo.gl/o2IR5 [15:48] Meeting ended Tue May 22 15:48:03 2012 UTC. [15:48] Minutes (wiki): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-community-team/2012/ubuntu-community-team.2012-05-22-15.01.moin.txt [15:48] Minutes (html): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-community-team/2012/ubuntu-community-team.2012-05-22-15.01.html [15:48] \o/ [15:48] the meeting we just finished? [15:48] rofl [15:48] so trolled [15:48] I think our meeting clashed with somebody else's [15:48] yeah it clashed with another one [15:48] I will look at moving this to another time [15:48] my mornings are generally pretty free of calls [15:48] ;-) [15:48] haha [15:48] haha [15:49] I will see what we can do [15:49] There seems to be no one in there now.. [15:49] anyways :-) [15:49] yeah, back to work for me - thanks guys :) [15:49] balloons, it is a fortnightly meeting I think [15:49] thanks, chaps! [15:49] and I'll see how far a linksys router can fly out of the window [15:50] brb [15:50] wait, what? === nhandler_ is now known as nhandler === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach [16:01] Um... guys [16:01] I have a problem [16:02] what's up amithkk [16:03] balloons, wiki page updated :) [16:03] Endavour, the server on which twobottux runs, is having a big problem [16:13] dholbach, thanks :-) [16:13] I guess I need to actively solicit for more of those eh? [16:23] @login [16:23] amithkk: Error: "login" is not a valid command. [16:23] amithkk: The operation succeeded. [16:23] Wait... AlanBell does meetingology run on the '@' prefix? [16:33] heh [16:37] it accepts some commands that way [16:52] alrightie - I call it a day [16:52] see you all tomorrow [17:10] jcastro, did you see my reply to the dropbox guy [17:10] my gmail is being screwy [17:11] yep [17:11] it keeps saying sending in background [17:11] cool [17:11] thanks [17:11] I was worried my mails were not getting through [17:11] I turn on background sending in the labs [17:11] then I don't block the UI [17:11] I can just go go go [17:12] why is it my eod turns out to be the busiest all day long bar the whole leaving the building due to loud fire alarm [17:12] heh [17:12] pleia2: I updated your ad for userdays: http://meta.askubuntu.com/a/2243/235 [17:13] just ping me when you need an update [17:13] jono: we going today? [17:13]