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bkerensa | micahg: do you by chance know why installing wine would automatically begin the removal of a handful of development packages? | 05:29 |
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bkerensa | debhelper quilt etc etc? | 05:29 |
micahg | bkerensa: conflicts from various i386 packages? | 05:29 |
bkerensa | ahh | 05:29 |
bkerensa | makes sense | 05:30 |
micahg | most will probably be bugs | 05:30 |
micahg | err...some | 05:30 |
dholbach | good morning | 07:07 |
geser | good morning | 07:08 |
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iulian | Morning dholbach, geser. | 08:27 |
ajmitch | hi iulian, dholbach, geser :) | 08:39 |
dholbach | hey iulian, hey ajmitch | 08:41 |
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geser | MoM is back :) | 12:23 |
dupondje | geser: indeed, abusing it already ;) | 12:50 |
ogra_ | how evil ! | 12:51 |
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achiang | stgraber: hey, welcome back from holiday. :) can i get a review of this proposed fix? i'm thinking of implementing it in a private project and would like feedback: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-session/+bug/855556 | 14:44 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 855556 in indicator-session (Ubuntu) ""Restart" and "Shut Down" don't work if anyone else is logged in" [High,Confirmed] | 14:44 |
ogra_ | achiang, hmm, are you sure that gets cleaned up somehow after install ? | 14:53 |
ogra_ | to me it looks like the modification is permanent | 14:54 |
ogra_ | (given you say in the description it only affects the live session) | 14:54 |
achiang | ogra_: i admit, i am not 100% sure. but on the other hand, the script i modify says: # Policy to allow the livecd user to bypass policykit | 14:55 |
achiang | ogra_: so if it is permanent, then we have a way more serious bug in the existing casper script | 14:56 |
ogra_ | well, i'm not sure if that file will get copied by ubiquity or not during install | 14:56 |
achiang | ogra_: booting up a clean precise installation now. | 14:57 |
* ogra_ only has non live installs handy here ... else i would have checked :) | 14:58 | |
ogra_ | theoretically i think every user with physical access should be able to shutdown/reboot though | 14:59 |
ogra_ | since you can just use the power button anyway :) | 14:59 |
achiang | ogra_: hm, what is a "live install" ? this machine i'm checking was installed by: 1) download precise iso 2) use usb-creator-gtk to copy to USB key 3) boot into ubiquity (i didn't launch a guest/live session first) | 15:00 |
ogra_ | well, a live install for me is one that uses casper in some way :) | 15:00 |
achiang | ogra_: so, i don't see that file got copied over, but i also don't know if i did a live install via your definition. but i'm still pretty confident that file doesn't get copied into a real install. taht would be insane | 15:01 |
ogra_ | you did a live install | 15:01 |
ogra_ | achiang, to me it looks good btw | 15:05 |
achiang | ogra_: ok, thanks. i guess i will wait until a sponsor actually picks it up before i check in the equivalent fix into our private branch. :) | 15:05 |
ogra_ | achiang, one nitpick though, you shoulldnt close the LP bug from the changelog, after all its only a minro improvement, i think the bug has a bigger scope | 15:08 |
ogra_ | *minor | 15:08 |
achiang | ogra_: ah, i agree it's only a minor improvement, but i don't know how to avoid closing the LP bug from the changelog. what should i write instead? | 15:09 |
ogra_ | i dont think we have a generalized way for that, i usually use (Launchpad: #123456) instead of (LP: #123456) | 15:10 |
ogra_ | or something similar | 15:10 |
ogra_ | the parser only parses (LP: #...) | 15:11 |
stgraber | ogra_: (still reading backlog), ubiquity copies /rofs, not /, so that change will only apply to the live environment | 15:18 |
ogra_ | stgraber, oh, indeed | 15:18 |
stgraber | achiang: can you restrict the change to only allowing shutdown/reboot? unless I missed something it looks like you're allowing every admin action. Not really a big problem considering none of the admin UIs are visible in the greeter, but still, no real need to allow it either | 15:19 |
achiang | stgraber: hm, but at some point, our project will want to allow the lightdm user to do things like select and authenticate to a wifi AP and other potentially admin like things | 15:21 |
stgraber | achiang: I'm not a big fan of needlessly allowing things in security profiles, but I guess in this case I'm fine with it ;) the ubuntu users is already logged in everywhere and has password-less sudo rights, so there's indeed little benefit in having fine grained security profiles for the rest | 15:27 |
achiang | stgraber: great, thanks! shall i fix up the nitpick that ogra_ pointed out, or is the MP good to go? | 15:27 |
stgraber | achiang, ogra_: I think it's fine keeping the LP: # entry so long as we have a separate casper task on that bug and don't close the other tasks | 15:29 |
achiang | stgraber: ok, i leave it in your hands then. i'm not a motu, so need a sponsor. :) | 15:29 |
ogra_ | yeah, add a casper task | 15:29 |
* ogra_ didnt think of actually *adding* more tasks :) | 15:30 | |
stgraber | achiang: ok, will upload in a minute. casper being in main/core package set, you actually need a coredev :) | 15:30 |
achiang | stgraber: ooh, shiny. my first coredev patch. :) | 15:31 |
achiang | stgraber: thank you much | 15:31 |
stgraber | achiang: done | 15:33 |
achiang | stgraber: merci! | 15:33 |
vibhav | Any bug supervisor here? | 15:36 |
tumbleweed | vibhav: everyone with upload rights is automatically added to bugcontrol | 15:39 |
vibhav | tumbleweed: Can you see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-notifier/+bug/644578 and nominate it for oneiric? | 15:42 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 644578 in update-notifier (Debian) "gettext required by package scripts, but not a dependency " [Unknown,New] | 15:42 |
Laney | vibhav: why don't you apply for bug control? | 15:42 |
vibhav | I got A +0 | 15:43 |
tumbleweed | vibhav: nominated | 15:44 |
vibhav | thanks! | 15:44 |
vibhav | Laney: Because the example I showed were more inclined towards MOTU | 15:46 |
vibhav | examples* | 15:46 |
vibhav | And not for triaging bugs | 15:46 |
vibhav | Laney: https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bugcontrol/msg03712.html and the next thread FYI | 15:50 |
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tumbleweed | vibhav: I'd make it clearer that you want to join bugcontrol to help you do MOTU work | 15:51 |
vibhav | sure | 15:53 |
vibhav | I will reapply again | 15:53 |
tumbleweed | vibhav: or, just triage 5 bugs :) | 15:55 |
dupondje | tumbleweed: could you enter your endorsment on my Application please? Then I can schedule myself in the meeting :) | 15:55 |
vibhav | tumbleweed: What do I write in my application? | 16:15 |
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ajmitch | micahg: did you get a test build of openclipart completed? | 21:34 |
ajmitch | if not, I'll start one off on my home box & be patient | 21:34 |
jtaylor | vibhav: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugControl#Application | 21:38 |
micahg | ajmitch: no, almost did it last night, but then decided to go to bed, can do tonight | 22:11 |
ajmitch | micahg: no rush | 22:14 |
jtaylor | I wonder if anyone would scream when I drop the ill advised pdl ubuntu delta dating back to bug 29798 | 22:17 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 29798 in pdl (Ubuntu) "enable NaN support" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/29798 | 22:17 |
ajmitch | jtaylor: why is it ill-advised? | 22:19 |
jtaylor | from my understanding there is no gain | 22:19 |
jtaylor | well its a peice of ubuntu history so I'll keep it, likely on the next perl transition the merge blame will fall back to cjwatson due to the rebuild ;) | 22:20 |
ajmitch | heh | 22:20 |
ajmitch | is it something that's been discussed with the debian maintainer? | 22:21 |
jtaylor | debian maintainer rejected it as bogus | 22:21 |
jtaylor | bug 1000972 looks intersting, the trigger running right after perl is unpacked, I guess that can be ugly | 22:21 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 1000972 in pdl (Ubuntu) "package pdl 1:2.4.7+dfsg-2ubuntu5 failed to install/upgrade: ErrorMessage: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 127" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1000972 | 22:21 |
jtaylor | to bad I have no idea of perl and am not going to touch it :P | 22:22 |
ajmitch | ask Laney all about trigger ordering :) | 22:22 |
Laney | :| | 22:22 |
* ajmitch takes the whiskey bottle off Laney | 22:23 | |
ajmitch | I see there was no response on debian-dpkg about that question | 22:23 |
Laney | yes, indeed | 22:23 |
Laney | do you fancy mailing -devel? | 22:23 |
* Laney cannae handle the abuse | 22:24 | |
ajmitch | you can explain the situation better than I can though | 22:24 |
LordOfTime | then laney can tell you what to write, and you send it :p | 22:27 |
* LordOfTime is kidding, but still | 22:27 | |
Laney | I already wrote it to -dpkg :P | 22:27 |
Laney | bah, I'll do it | 22:28 |
ajmitch | a gracious volunteer | 22:29 |
LordOfTime | lol | 22:29 |
* Laney ph33rs | 22:37 |
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